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Originally published at Foreign Policy Journal by Shawn Hamilton on 10/27/14

The terms “conspiracy theorist” and “conspiracy nut” are used frequently to discredit a perceived adversary using emotional rather than logical appeals. It’s important for the sake of true argument that we define the term “conspiracy” and use it appropriately, not as an ad hominem attack on someone whose point of view we don’t share.

According to my Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary, the word “conspiracy” derives from the Latin “conspirare,” which means literally “to breathe together” in the sense of agreeing to commit a crime. The primary definition is “planning and acting together secretly, especially for a harmful or unlawful purpose, such as murder or treason.”

It was in this sense that Mark Twain astutely observed,

“A conspiracy is nothing but a secret agreement of a number of men for the pursuance of policies which they dare not admit in public.”

Conspiracies are common. If they weren’t, police stations would not need conspiracy units to investigate and prosecute crimes such as “conspiracy to import cocaine” or any other collusion on the part of two or more people to subvert the law.

Unfortunately, too many people smugly chide “conspiracy theories” as if they imagine that such a derisive characterization reflects superior intellect—whether or not they know anything about the issue in question. It’s a pitiful display of ego inflation and intellectual dishonesty, yet it appears to be a common approach preferred by those either short on information and critical thinking skills or harboring a hidden agenda.

Here are a few examples of past “conspiracy theories” that have been commonly derided but were later determined to be credible:

1933 Business PlotSmedley Butler, a decorated United States Marine Corps major general, who wrote a book called War is a Racket, testified before a congressional committee that a group of powerful industrialists, who had tried to recruit him, were planning to form a fascist veterans’ group that intended to assassinate Franklin Roosevelt and overthrow the government in a coup. While news media at the time belittled Butler and called the affair a hoax, the congressional committee determined that Butler’s allegations were credible, although no-one was prosecuted.

Project Paperclip:  After “winning” World War II, the US imported hundreds of Nazis and their families through “Project Paperclip,” so-named because ID photos were clipped to paper dossiers. It was set up by an agency within the Office of Strategic Services, predecessor of the CIA. Along with creating false identities and political biographies, Paperclip operatives expunged or altered Nazi records and other criminal histories in order to illegally circumvent President Truman’s edict that prohibited Nazis from obtaining security clearances. Thus, high-level Nazis waltzed into sensitive positions of authority and secrecy in the US military-industrial establishment, including the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), major corporations, and universities. These Germans were conveniently referred to as “former Nazis,” but “former” was commonly just a euphemism for “active” and “ardent.”

Consider the irony of the United States’ moon mission. In order to successfully land men on the lunar surface and return them to Earth, the US depended almost exclusively on Nazis. A notable example was rocket scientist Wernher von Braun, a member of the Allgemeine SS, who would eventually lead the US space program. Von Braun had exploited concentration camp labor in Germany to build V-2 rockets at Peenemünde, and German aviation doctors’ gruesome and often fatal experiments at Dachau and other prisons afforded information that would help keep American astronauts alive in space.

While many Americans would prefer to call it a conspiracy theory, the United States defeated the Nazi organization in Germany only to transplant that ideology directly into the US after the war, and not just among members of the lay population but, more significantly, among members of the very “military-industrial complex” that President Eisenhower (a five-star general during WWII) had presciently warned the nation about in his 1961 message of leave-taking and farewell.

Operation Northwoods:  Declassified documents revealed that in 1962 the CIA was planning to execute false flag terrorist attacks, such as killing random American citizens and blowing up civilian targets, including a US airliner and ship, in order to blame Castro and justify invading Cuba.

Gulf of Tonkin:  President Lyndon Johnson used a contrived version of this 1964 event to justify escalation of the Vietnam War. It was claimed that Vietnamese gunboats had fired on the USS Maddox. It never happened—or at best was grossly distorted and overblown—yet the story served to prompt Congress to pass the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which provided the public justification Johnson needed to attack North Vietnam. This led to the deaths of about two million Vietnamese people and fifty thousand Americans.

MK-ULTRA:  As its code name suggests, MK-ULTRA was a mind control program run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence for the ostensible purpose of discovering ways to glean information from Communist spies although its applications were undoubtedly more far-reaching. It employed various methodologies including sensory deprivation and isolation, sexual abuse, and the administration of powerful psychotropic drugs such as LSD to unwitting subjects, including military personnel, prisoners, and college students. Many of them suffered serious consequences. One biochemist, Frank Olson, who was secretly slipped a strong dose of LSD at a CIA meeting, suffered a severe psychotic break and died when, for whatever reason, he plummeted from his apartment window to the pavement below. Such revelations came to light in 1975 during hearings by the congressional Church Committee (Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities) and the presidential Rockefeller Commission. These investigations were hindered by CIA Director Richard Helms who in 1973 had ordered the MK-ULTRA files destroyed.

Operation Mockingbird: This was a CIA media control program exposed by the Church Committee in 1975. It revealed the CIA’s efforts from the 1950s through the 1970s to pay well-known foreign and domestic journalists from “reputable” media agencies such as the Washington Post, Time Magazine, Newsweek, the Miami Herald, the New York Times, the New York Herald Tribune, Miami News, and CBS, among others, to publish CIA propaganda, manipulating the news by planting stories in domestic and foreign news outlets. During the hearings, Senator Church asked an agency representative, “Do you have any people paid by the CIA who are working for television networks?” The speaker eyed his lawyer then replied, “This I think gets into the details, Mr. Chairman, that I’d like to get into in executive session.” In other words, he didn’t want to admit the truth publicly. He gave the same response when asked if the CIA planted stories with the major wire services United Press International (UPI) and the Associated Press (AP). In his 1997 book, Virtual Government — in the chapter “’And Now a Word from Our Sponsor – The CIA': The Birth of Operation Mockingbird, the Takeover of the Corporate Press & the Programming of Public Opinion” — Alex Constantine claims that during the 1950s “some 3,000 salaried and contract CIA employees were eventually engaged in propaganda efforts.” I’m curious to know what the estimate would be today.

CIA Drug Smuggling: It’s no longer a secret that clandestine arms of US Intelligence have profited from running drugs for many years. I first became aware of the issue when a Vietnam veteran claimed he had helped load opium cultivated in Laos onto military transport planes. The opium was turned into heroin and shipped around the world, sometimes in the visceral cavities of dead soldiers. A Hollywood version of these events is portrayed in the film Air America, but the movie is based on historical truth. When the US military presence in Southeast Asia declined and the focus shifted to Central America, cocaine became the new revenue source. Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Gary Webb ran a well-documented three-part series in the San Jose Mercury News called “Dark Alliance” alleging that traffickers with US intelligence ties had marketed the cocaine in Los Angeles and other cities where it was turned into the new and highly addictive form known as “crack,” inflicting a scourge that claimed the lives and freedom of thousands. One guy I met in Compton who had been arrested for crack possession described the drug this way: “It doesn’t really get you high,” he said. “You just want more.” Webb’s allegations were confirmed by an LAPD Narcotics Officer and whistleblower, Michael Ruppert, and the story received additional confirmation from CIA contract pilot Terry Reed, whose story is revealed in his 1994 book Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA. According to Reed, the sale of cocaine was used to finance the Contras in Central America when congressional funding was blocked by the Boland Amendment. He claimed the operation was run out of Mena, Arkansas when Bill Clinton was governor. Military cargo planes were flown to Central America with military hardware, he said, and then returned to Mena loaded with coke.

I could add to the list, and it would be a long one. The Iran-Contra scandal, Watergate, the FBI’s Counter Intelligence Program (COINTELPRO), the Tuskegee syphilis experiment—there is no shortage of crimes that were planned and committed by two or more people and thus constituted conspiracy. Conspiracies happen, and before any crime is solved it spawns theories. There are people who look at these theories rationally using logic and discernment, and there are others who are illogical, engaging in fallacious, emotion-based thinking and jumping to unjustified conclusions based on little or no evidence. The term “conspiracy theorist,” however, has been manipulated to suggest only those in the latter category.

The John F. Kennedy assassination provides a good example of how the term “conspiracy” has been misapplied to disparage people who find fault with official versions of major events. After Kennedy was murdered, very few people questioned the Warren Commission’s verdict that Lee Oswald had shot the president unassisted, and anyone who challenged that belief was branded a “conspiracy nut” (or buff) unworthy of respect or consideration. Forty years later, a 2003 Gallup poll revealed that 75% of the US population believed there had been a conspiracy to kill JFK.

Apparently some people have a psychological need to protect themselves from unpleasant realities, so it’s easier for them to label others as conspiracy nuts than to assimilate hard but discomforting facts. In the case of the John Kennedy assassination, even a congressional committee, the House Select Committee on Assassinations, concluded in 1979 that there had been a conspiracy to kill John Kennedy. They tried to soften that reality by calling it a “limited conspiracy” as if Oswald’s drunken cousin had helped him and not elements of US Intelligence, but the fact remains that the US government has officially admitted there was a conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy. “Conspiracy theorists” were finally vindicated, but I’ve never heard anyone apologize for disparaging their names and questioning their sanity.

“9/11,” of course, is the current topic that yields the most accusations of conspiracy nuttiness. Anyone who challenges the 9/11 Commission’s conclusions are branded “conspiracy theorists” (or nuts, wackos or kooks) as were their predecessors when JFK was killed.

History repeats itself

One of the strange truths about the 9/11 affair is that members of the 9/11 Commission also called the event a conspiracy. That alone shows the term is being intentionally manipulated. In the Commission’s view, the conspirators were exclusively fanatical Muslims, but somehow that investigative body has been exempt from accusations of conspiracy theorizing even though they called the event a conspiracy. Apparently one must challenge the official version of events to qualify as a “conspiracy theorist.”

I asked Jim Marrs, the popular author and critic of various official versions of history, what he considered to be the origin of “conspiracy” as a derogatory term and how it has been manipulated: “The term ‘conspiracy theory’ was consciously submitted to assets of the CIA back in a document from the 1960s to be used to counter factual information that was continually being made public regarding the Kennedy assassination. From there, these assets, including media personalities, pundits, academics and government officials, expanded the term to become a pejorative for any statements not complying with the Establishment line,” Marrs said. “However, its repetitive overuse, plus the fact that the 9/11 attacks obviously involved a conspiracy, today has lessened the impact of the term.”

Many critics of the 9/11 Commission report make some valid points, and it’s not fair to simply dismiss them as conspiracy theorists when the very people they’re countering also claim there was a conspiracy. The question is simply: whose conspiracy was it?

Even officials tasked with investigating 9/11 knew there was plenty of deception involved. Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission, John Farmer, said on page four of his book The Ground Truth, “At some level of government, at some point in time, there was an agreement not to tell the people the truth about what happened.” In their book Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission, the two co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission, Lee Hamilton and Thomas Kean, outlined reasons they believe the government established the Commission in a manner that ensured its failure. These reasons included delay in initiating the proceedings, too short a deadline for the scope of the work, insufficient funding, and lack of cooperation by politicians and key government agencies including the Department of Defense, the Federal Aviation Administration, and NORAD. “So there were all kinds of reasons we thought we were set up to fail,” the chairmen said.

How much clearer can they be?

Conspiracies exist. They have always existed, and not wanting them to be true does not invalidate their existence. I think it’s time we reject the intentional misappropriation of the term “conspiracy” by forces attempting to manipulate public opinion and restore the term to its original and proper meaning. As long as we observe logic and reason, there is no intellectual dishonor in contemplating and discussing conspiracies, and doing so is imperative if we wish to retain what’s left of our liberties.

A version of this article was originally published at OpEdNews.com.

[Correction, Oct. 28, 2014: An earlier version of this article mistakenly stated that a chapter title of Alex Constantine’s 1997 book Virtual Government is “Mockingbird: The Subversion of The Free Press by the CIA”. The chapter is titled “‘And Now a Word from Our Sponsor – The CIA': The Birth of Operation Mockingbird, the Takeover of the Corporate Press & the Programming of Public Opinion.” The text has been revised to correct the error.]


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[Apr 22, 2017] This is one of the best articles I have read about Septemeber 11 attack. No hysterics, just facts. the classic controlled demolition style of WTC7's collapse is one of them

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Timur The Lame , April 9, 2017 at 11:36 am GMT \n

100 Words @ Carlton Meyer,

I was peripherally displayed on 60 minutes some 20 years ago. I spent an hour chatting with Mike Wallace. I liked him. He obviously had an marching orders but seemed apologetic in demeanor. In hindsight I realized that he knew that he was a whore when pursuing political or historical issues. My comportment and wit was brilliant ( sorry for the self praise) but of the hour that was filmed they cropped out a 5 second segment that fit their agenda. I was shocked when the segment aired but I was also relatively naive at the time. In other words they were already neutered then.

As an aside, when referencing the issues with respect to WTC 7 I always referred to it as a 47 story building. Mr. Dinh now reveals that it was a 52 story building. I feel foolish.

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Vires , April 9, 2017 at 11:53 am GMT \n
400 Words Spot on Mr. Lihn, we have to distinguish between the majority of Jews, the decent and intellectually honest ones, most of them manipulated, afraid to lose their jobs and used like the rest of us, and the intellectually dishonest, sociopathic Jew supremacist shill ones (and their non-Jewish stooges, accomplices and enforcers), the Chomskies, Rumsfelds, Rotschilds, Warburgs, Rockefellers, Wilsons, Roosevelts, Churchills, Cheneys, Rubios, Clintons, Bushes, Kagans, Kristols, Wolfowitzs, Foxmans, Shermans, Incitatuses, Dissidents, Corvinuses, Iffies and the Sam the Shams of the world.

We love the decent, intellectually honest and loyal to the countries they live in ones, David Coles, Gilad Atzmons, Arno J. Mayers, Marcus Alethias and Ron Unzs of the world, we are in the same boat with them and we need them to speak up and join us.

And if some of us do not, we are just playing in the hands of the Zionists, being distrustful of all Jews and becoming Jew haters we also become their useful idiots, because the more we hate them, the likelier they are to migrate to Israel, and that is and always has been the central goal of Zionism, and that is the reason why they expect and applaud when some of us go full anti-semite, and also the reason that explains the trolling here in the comments by the Zionist shills, trying to frame bloggers and commenters as anti-semites, so the casual reader who is still on the fence on the Jewish Lobby issue dismisses the whole publication as "Jew-hater" and"Anti-semitic"

That is also the main reason Jewish movers and shakers are pushing for more immigration, the closer to Mexico the US becomes and the closer to Pakistan and Algeria Europe becomes, the more European and American Jews will go back to Israel, that is the central goal of Zionism.

The gathering of the exiles in the land of Israel, became the core idea of the Zionist Movement[1] and the core idea of Israel's Scroll of Independence[2] (Megilat Ha'atzmaut[3]), embodied by the idea of going up, Aliyah, since the Holy Land is considered to be spiritually higher than all other land.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gathering_of_Israel

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Santoculto , April 9, 2017 at 12:02 pm GMT \n
Hbd liars in only one twitt

https://mobile.twitter.com/hbdchick/status/851005493392941056?p=v

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Sherman , April 9, 2017 at 12:46 pm GMT \n
Here's another article about Christopher Bollyn and Rudy Dent and the losers and misfits they appeal to:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/10/jew-hater-christopher-bollyn-brings-9-11-false-flag-act-to-the-brooklyn-commons.html Read More

jacques sheete , April 9, 2017 at 1:06 pm GMT \n
200 Words This is one of the best articles I've read on UR, and that's saying a lot. No hysterics, just facts.

The question of the century.:

So who are you going to believe? Are you going to believe a bunch of government bureaucrats, or my fellow brothers

Warning of ages.:

Foolish Credulity

Why is it that, though deceived again and again by the same things and persons, we are unable to abandon our blind folly?

For this particular kind of fraud has often been committed before now, and by many. That other men should allow themselves to be taken in is perhaps not astonishing; but it is [astonishing]that those should do so who are the authors and origin of the same kind of malpractice.

But I suppose the cause is the absence of that rule so happily expressed by Epicharmus:

"Cool head and wise mistrust are wisdom's sinews. " . . .

- Polybius, Histories.18.40 Composed ~200BC, Translated by Evelyn S. Shuckburgh. translator. London, New York. Macmillan. 1889. Reprint Bloomington 1962.

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0234:book=18:chapter=40&highlight=epicharmus

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Renoman , April 9, 2017 at 2:02 pm GMT \n
Great work Linh! Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
Anonymouse , April 9, 2017 at 2:23 pm GMT \n
100 Words Doesn't the mysterious collapse of Building 7 suggest no conspiracy. As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?

From the Zionists making Pearl Harbor happen to their race being the maleficient agent directing all of human history is not that much of a leap. In sober historical fact, Zionists in 1941 in Palestine under the English mandate were not remotely in a position of power. Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration, which in fact was not permitted by the sovereign nations that might have accepted them. Of course, you can always factor in that inconvenient fact into the conspiracy theory. Read More

jacques sheete , April 9, 2017 at 2:23 pm GMT \n
@Sherman Here's another article about Christopher Bollyn and Rudy Dent and the losers and misfits they appeal to:


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/10/jew-hater-christopher-bollyn-brings-9-11-false-flag-act-to-the-brooklyn-commons.html

Here's another article

You call that credible?

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dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 2:24 pm GMT \n
Typical response from a Hasbara. No supporting evidence to refute the facts, so you go to ad hominem. Read More
dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 2:26 pm GMT \n
@Shouting Thomas You're using Louis Farrakhan as a go to source?

You just trashed yourself. Why? The truth is the truth, regardless of who the speaker is. Read More Agree: jacques sheete Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 3:38 pm GMT \n
@Anonymouse Doesn't the mysterious collapse of Building 7 suggest no conspiracy. As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?

From the Zionists making Pearl Harbor happen to their race being the maleficient agent directing all of human history is not that much of a leap. In sober historical fact, Zionists in 1941 in Palestine under the English mandate were not remotely in a position of power. Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration, which in fact was not permitted by the sovereign nations that might have accepted them. Of course, you can always factor in that inconvenient fact into the conspiracy theory. Interesting that you state, "Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration", and ignore the truth which is that was exactly what they did. You need to do more research, unless you prefer to spout the Zio-propaganda. Read More

Agent76 , April 9, 2017 at 4:10 pm GMT \n
100 Words May 25, 2014 FDNY 9/11 Survivor Witness and Whistleblower Speaks on WTC 7

Listen very carefully starting at the '20′ second mark! As a firefighter on 9/11, he was at Ground Zero and was there when Building 7 came down.

September 11, 2016 Al Qaeda: The Data Base

Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that "Al Qaeda" is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan.

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Vires , April 9, 2017 at 4:13 pm GMT \n
100 Words @Sherman Here's another article about Christopher Bollyn and Rudy Dent and the losers and misfits they appeal to:


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/10/jew-hater-christopher-bollyn-brings-9-11-false-flag-act-to-the-brooklyn-commons.html And here you are, Goy-hater Zionist shill, right on time to disqualify the sources and the blogger by association as "Jew-haters" for publishing the story.

Sociopathic Jews like you are the ones we hate, always ready to troll, agitate and favour the Zionist agenda with obvious Jewish names so we end up distrusting all Jews, disqualify bloggers and commenters as "Jew-haters" "anti-semites" and do whatever necessary to achieve the Zionist goals without giving a damn about us Europeans and Americans.

Try something else shill your usual PR garbage ain't working no more. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Agent76 , April 9, 2017 at 4:19 pm GMT \n
100 Words Sep 5, 2016 9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani

Mayor Giuliani oversaw the illegal destruction of the 9/11 crime scene and is criminally liable for the deaths of hundreds of emergency workers for not passing on prior warnings about the collapses of the Twin Towers. It is no wonder, then, that the Fire Department of New York so passionately detest Giuliani for his actions in disgracing their fallen brothers and covering up the 9/11 crime.

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jacques sheete , April 9, 2017 at 4:25 pm GMT \n
100 Words @dninmore Interesting that you state, "Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration", and ignore the truth which is that was exactly what they did. You need to do more research, unless you prefer to spout the Zio-propaganda. Every one of the claims is likewise easily refutable. Pretty lame, all of it.

E.g., this.:

As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?

Who said it was undergoing a rebuild? Maybe it was undergoing a demolition wiring instead. Besides, even if it were initially undergoing a true rebuild, so what? Plans change. Could it be a convenient cover, diversion, perhaps? Collect insurance payouts?

Furthermore, if I were in the name-calling mode like Sherm, (but I'm not ), I'd say the true believers of the "official" narrative are saps and gulls. Read More

Wolfred , April 9, 2017 at 4:30 pm GMT \n
I used to have respect for you Linh Dinh, but no more.

You have just outed yourself as just another wacko nutjob. Read More

unit472 , April 9, 2017 at 4:38 pm GMT \n
200 Words I tend to believe my lying eyes and not deranged fanatics. Highrise buildings have not collapsed due to fire because they are not struck by fuel laden projectiles moving at 500 mph and weighing 250 tons. They also have firemen who are still alive and working fire suppression systems trying to put the fire out. All of that fire fighting capability disappeared on 9/11. The structural damage alone from the aircraft impact likely doomed both towers even in the absence of fires. NYPD helicopter pilots reported the top of towers were leaning long before they collapsed owing to the exterior steel walls being the main structural steel support in modern skyscrapers unlike the internal steel boxes used in older skyscrapers that required more steel to be used and limited floor space.

Building 7 is harder to explain but it had been hit with multiton steel beams moving at high speed from the collapse of the twin towers. These would have ripped apart electrical systems and caused fires. As building 7 was the site of the NYC Emergency operations center thousands of gallons of diesel fuel was stored in the building to operate generators and once fire personel were withdrawn nothing was left to prevent fire from reaching those generators and fuel supplies. Read More

Amanda , April 9, 2017 at 4:39 pm GMT \n
100 Words Article mentioned Rothschilds instigating, orchestrating, and profiting from WW2 and I also wanted to add what loyal American Jew, Benjamin Freedman had to say about WW1 and WW2 (he ought to know b/c he was the right hand man of Bernard Baruch, Rothschild front-man, basically the Soros of yesterday.

Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel (Complete)

Benjamin H. Freedman's excellent speech on how World War One (and Two) really started and why the U.S. was eventually drawn in. Read More

dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 5:02 pm GMT \n
@jacques sheete Every one of the claims is likewise easily refutable. Pretty lame, all of it.

E.g., this.:


As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?
Who said it was undergoing a rebuild? Maybe it was undergoing a demolition wiring instead. Besides, even if it were initially undergoing a true rebuild, so what? Plans change. Could it be a convenient cover, diversion, perhaps? Collect insurance payouts?

Furthermore, if I were in the name-calling mode like Sherm, (but I'm not...), I'd say the true believers of the "official" narrative are saps and gulls. In 12 years of research, I've never heard of a whole building renovation. More disinformation. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 5:03 pm GMT \n
@Wolfred I used to have respect for you Linh Dinh, but no more.

You have just outed yourself as just another wacko nutjob. Spoken like a true Hasbara. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

jacques sheete , April 9, 2017 at 5:10 pm GMT \n
@unit472 I tend to believe my lying eyes and not deranged fanatics. Highrise buildings have not collapsed due to fire because they are not struck by fuel laden projectiles moving at 500 mph and weighing 250 tons. They also have firemen who are still alive and working fire suppression systems trying to put the fire out. All of that fire fighting capability disappeared on 9/11. The structural damage alone from the aircraft impact likely doomed both towers even in the absence of fires. NYPD helicopter pilots reported the top of towers were leaning long before they collapsed owing to the exterior steel walls being the main structural steel support in modern skyscrapers unlike the internal steel boxes used in older skyscrapers that required more steel to be used and limited floor space.

Building 7 is harder to explain but it had been hit with multiton steel beams moving at high speed from the collapse of the twin towers. These would have ripped apart electrical systems and caused fires. As building 7 was the site of the NYC Emergency operations center thousands of gallons of diesel fuel was stored in the building to operate generators and once fire personel were withdrawn nothing was left to prevent fire from reaching those generators and fuel supplies.

Building 7 is harder to explain

As in harder to lie about?

Does the command, "Pull it" mean anything to the true believers? Or how about the idea that it was reported collapsing even before it did?

'Splain that. (Yeah, yeah, I know, it's a "myth.") Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 5:16 pm GMT \n
@unit472 I tend to believe my lying eyes and not deranged fanatics. Highrise buildings have not collapsed due to fire because they are not struck by fuel laden projectiles moving at 500 mph and weighing 250 tons. They also have firemen who are still alive and working fire suppression systems trying to put the fire out. All of that fire fighting capability disappeared on 9/11. The structural damage alone from the aircraft impact likely doomed both towers even in the absence of fires. NYPD helicopter pilots reported the top of towers were leaning long before they collapsed owing to the exterior steel walls being the main structural steel support in modern skyscrapers unlike the internal steel boxes used in older skyscrapers that required more steel to be used and limited floor space.

Building 7 is harder to explain but it had been hit with multiton steel beams moving at high speed from the collapse of the twin towers. These would have ripped apart electrical systems and caused fires. As building 7 was the site of the NYC Emergency operations center thousands of gallons of diesel fuel was stored in the building to operate generators and once fire personel were withdrawn nothing was left to prevent fire from reaching those generators and fuel supplies. Fires can't bring down steel superstructures. It's physically impossible. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Amanda , April 9, 2017 at 5:48 pm GMT \n
300 Words Also, fwiw, I first learned about Benjamin Freedman from the site http://www.iamthewitness.com , which was basically a site dedicated to researching Zionism. The site was run by an American living in France, and he unfortunately had to shut the site down due to concerns about French laws against free speech. Anyway, for now, there is a mirror site here https://archive.is/UNAqf (not sure how long the mirror will be up, but it would be a shame to lose the info at that site)

Anyone interested in hidden history might want to go through the archives on that site, especially the books. Daryl was able to find some interesting books on hidden/suppressed history, and was able to get them converted so they could be read online. IMO, there are tons of books there worth downloading and reading. A few that stood out to me included the books by Archibald Maule Ramsey, George Armstrong, Executive Intelligence Review (The Ugly Truth about the ADL), Nesta Webster, and Jack Bernstein. Also, fwiw, in one of the books by Bernstein (not sure when it was written but I think decades before 911), he wrote about how at some point the Zionists would drag the US into a huge war in the Middle East and then the Zionist bankers would collapse the economy.

The audios also have good info, but there aren't any summaries of the topics discussed. I recall the audios w/David Pidcock being especially informative (especially the early ones from '06). Pidcock also liked to dig into the history and found some interesting info. I remember one book he talked about was called Propaganda in the Next War, and I guess it was written by British Establishment types, and it was all about how to drag the US into war. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments

nsa , April 9, 2017 at 6:00 pm GMT \n
Anyone see the hilarious picture of General (((Kushner))) in Iraq with his pencil neck sticking out of a bulky flak jacket looking like a tortoise walking erect. Even the jooies must want to disown this vile embarrassment ..only thing missing was a dukakis tank helmet and a BB gun. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
Dave337 , April 9, 2017 at 6:13 pm GMT \n
@unit472 I tend to believe my lying eyes and not deranged fanatics. Highrise buildings have not collapsed due to fire because they are not struck by fuel laden projectiles moving at 500 mph and weighing 250 tons. They also have firemen who are still alive and working fire suppression systems trying to put the fire out. All of that fire fighting capability disappeared on 9/11. The structural damage alone from the aircraft impact likely doomed both towers even in the absence of fires. NYPD helicopter pilots reported the top of towers were leaning long before they collapsed owing to the exterior steel walls being the main structural steel support in modern skyscrapers unlike the internal steel boxes used in older skyscrapers that required more steel to be used and limited floor space.

Building 7 is harder to explain but it had been hit with multiton steel beams moving at high speed from the collapse of the twin towers. These would have ripped apart electrical systems and caused fires. As building 7 was the site of the NYC Emergency operations center thousands of gallons of diesel fuel was stored in the building to operate generators and once fire personel were withdrawn nothing was left to prevent fire from reaching those generators and fuel supplies. I'd agree with that but I still don't quite get the lack of plane wreckage at the Pentagon. Of course conspiracy theorists always have an explanation, which may be part of the conspiracy too. Read More

Anonymouse , April 9, 2017 at 6:44 pm GMT \n
300 Words @dninmore Interesting that you state, "Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration", and ignore the truth which is that was exactly what they did. You need to do more research, unless you prefer to spout the Zio-propaganda. In 1945 I was eleven. The newspapers printed pics of the concentration survivors of the extermination camps liberated by USArmy troups. This was Brooklyn. No Zionist compatriots arrived during the war. After the war, there was a flood of camp survivors who made it to the US. Humble anecdote to establish my claim. I looked up our last name in the Brooklyn phone book back then. There were 3 of that name, my father, my uncle and a third unknown to me. Now were you to look at the Brooklyn phone book as of the last time it was printed and distributed, an enormous number of that last name appears. Proving my claim that there was NO sizeable Jewish immigrants during WW II because the allied sovereign nations wouldn't let them in. Fast forward to 2017 and above and below this comment, one may read the comments of well-meaning folks who know better. Am I part of the conspiracy? I just go on what I know by observation and the perusal of more or less mainstream news sources, US, English, French, Israeli, German. I've done that for a very long time and it seems reasonable to me to believe that I have as a good a sense of recent world history as is practically possible. If the truth is that the Zionists saved their compatriots from Hitler by having their puppets, the US and GB, let them in, then why didn't they show up in Brooklyn during the war where you might expect them to go, and did show up in sizeable numbers AFTER the war was over? Read More
Truth , April 9, 2017 at 7:02 pm GMT \n
@NoseytheDuke Linh Dinh, this is surely your best piece in ages, if not ever. Well done. Rudy Dent truly loves America and America should love him for that. I second Dinh! And in honor of your hosts for this landmarking event; "Youze an O.G N-!" Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
Truth , April 9, 2017 at 7:06 pm GMT \n
@Dave337 I'd agree with that but I still don't quite get the lack of plane wreckage at the Pentagon. Of course conspiracy theorists always have an explanation, which may be part of the conspiracy too. I'd agree with that but I still don't quite get the lack of plane wreckage at the Pentagon.

LOL; what is there not to get; IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

I'm still waiting to see ONE photo of airplane wreckage on the pentagon lawn. Read More

Anonymous33 , April 9, 2017 at 7:24 pm GMT \n
200 Words The real debate of the moment is whether Assad "did or didn'". The news is tellin' us he did, the alter-news says well maybe he didn'. Back n' forth it goes, like a little gerbil wheel for your mind. Maybe melting steel caused the gas release? What's for dinner?

The media works as one, developing your rodent like response to ignore the forest for the trees and focus on your next food pellet. So it is with the great sporting event of the 9/11, back n' forth, easy to digest, processed just for you.

Dinh might be a nice guy and believe in what he does, but he's just another narcotics courier, delivering thoughts and ideas that so many of his kind are trained to do, that serve to disable people more effectively than any overt real weapon. Getting any reaction is valuable, the best artists are widely hated, and they love that hate, but I'd say your real enemies (readers) are the ones you least suspect.

They'll call you terrorists, as Chris Hedges is increasingly doing to the people that read his output! Sound familiar? Linh Dinh's "violence" comes from his pen. He openly mocks his own neighbors, you love that hate, and even when he mocks you you'll still believe he offers the "truth" and hang on to every word. Ignore the forest for the trees at your own perile, but the bad guys are the ones you trust. Read More Troll: utu

dninmore , April 9, 2017 at 7:33 pm GMT \n
300 Words @Anonymouse In 1945 I was eleven. The newspapers printed pics of the concentration survivors of the extermination camps liberated by USArmy troups. This was Brooklyn. No Zionist compatriots arrived during the war. After the war, there was a flood of camp survivors who made it to the US. Humble anecdote to establish my claim. I looked up our last name in the Brooklyn phone book back then. There were 3 of that name, my father, my uncle and a third unknown to me. Now were you to look at the Brooklyn phone book as of the last time it was printed and distributed, an enormous number of that last name appears. Proving my claim that there was NO sizeable Jewish immigrants during WW II because the allied sovereign nations wouldn't let them in. Fast forward to 2017 and above and below this comment, one may read the comments of well-meaning folks who know better. Am I part of the conspiracy? I just go on what I know by observation and the perusal of more or less mainstream news sources, US, English, French, Israeli, German. I've done that for a very long time and it seems reasonable to me to believe that I have as a good a sense of recent world history as is practically possible. If the truth is that the Zionists saved their compatriots from Hitler by having their puppets, the US and GB, let them in, then why didn't they show up in Brooklyn during the war where you might expect them to go, and did show up in sizeable numbers AFTER the war was over? This answer is simple. The Zionists were sending their "compatriots" – by force – to Palestine to populate their new illegitimate state – which is now a rogue, Apartheid one. The whole point of Zionism was to take over the world (their words, not mine), create a Jewish state in Palestine (not their first or second choice, btw), by butchering the native population – ethnic cleansing – to create the center for their NWO. They were even happy to blow up about 2,000 of their "compatriots" in a false flag on the ship Patria docked in port at Haifa to blame on the Brits – typical, yes? I'm sure you've heard of their policy to strip Jewish orphans from their European homes – at gun-point – to bring them to Palestine for the soon-to-be IDF model of violent indoctrination of their youth against Palestinians.

It's true Americans, and most of the world, wanted nothing to do with the parasitic Zionists. The fact that they were able to create both WWI and II, the UN, get their resolution passed and invade Palestine is a testament to how high they had infiltrated the US and GB governments. Of course, it helps when you have Chief SC Justice Brandeis and Franfurter, legislating from the court on behalf of the Zionists and all of the resources of the Rothchild gangsters.

Currently, 90% of the most powerful individuals in the US government, media and banks are Ashkenazy Jews – yet are only 2% of the US population and Ashkenazy are only 4% of that. Think about it.

As far as "extermination camps" go, the only ones I'm aware of (WWII) were created after the war by Eisenhower to finish what the Allies had begun. The only true "Holocaust" (destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war), was caused by the Allies on the German people in the horrific, unstoppable bombardments of phosphorous all over that country. These facts are never shown in the media, history education or Hollywood. I wonder why that is? Read More

Agent76 , April 9, 2017 at 7:49 pm GMT \n
100 Words Sep 11, 2013 9/11 In A Nutshell as James Corbett presents this 5 minute parody of the official conspiracy theory of 9/11

https://youtu.be/vrJiKbK0tVM

Oct 8, 2016 Afghanistan: 15 Years of Invasion and Occupation

15 years after NATO's invasion and occupation of Afghanistan, the 9/11 and Al Qaeda lies that were used to justify the war have disappeared. Now the truth about oil and gas, mineral wealth, opium and naked imperial ambition are all that remain.

https://youtu.be/UBOdbkqVGAY Read More

jacques sheete , April 9, 2017 at 8:02 pm GMT \n
@dninmore This answer is simple. The Zionists were sending their "compatriots" - by force - to Palestine to populate their new illegitimate state - which is now a rogue, Apartheid one. The whole point of Zionism was to take over the world (their words, not mine), create a Jewish state in Palestine (not their first or second choice, btw), by butchering the native population - ethnic cleansing - to create the center for their NWO. They were even happy to blow up about 2,000 of their "compatriots" in a false flag on the ship Patria docked in port at Haifa to blame on the Brits - typical, yes? I'm sure you've heard of their policy to strip Jewish orphans from their European homes - at gun-point - to bring them to Palestine for the soon-to-be IDF model of violent indoctrination of their youth against Palestinians.

It's true Americans, and most of the world, wanted nothing to do with the parasitic Zionists. The fact that they were able to create both WWI and II, the UN, get their resolution passed and invade Palestine is a testament to how high they had infiltrated the US and GB governments. Of course, it helps when you have Chief SC Justice Brandeis and Franfurter, legislating from the court on behalf of the Zionists and all of the resources of the Rothchild gangsters.

Currently, 90% of the most powerful individuals in the US government, media and banks are Ashkenazy Jews - yet are only 2% of the US population and Ashkenazy are only 4% of that. Think about it.

As far as "extermination camps" go, the only ones I'm aware of (WWII) were created after the war by Eisenhower to finish what the Allies had begun. The only true "Holocaust" (destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war), was caused by the Allies on the German people in the horrific, unstoppable bombardments of phosphorous all over that country. These facts are never shown in the media, history education or Hollywood. I wonder why that is?

This answer is simple.

Yes it is, and I wonder why the obvious escapes so many. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

jacques sheete , April 9, 2017 at 8:37 pm GMT \n
@Wolfred I used to have respect for you Linh Dinh, but no more.

You have just outed yourself as just another wacko nutjob.

You have just outed yourself as just another wacko nutjob.

I bet that just crushes the poor dude. Probably won't sleep for nights over it.

Lame stuff there, Tiger! Is that the best you got? Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

daniel le mouche , April 9, 2017 at 8:40 pm GMT \n
@wayfarer "War on Terror!"

The Caucasoid race of Aryan, Semitic, and Hamitic have their disparate ideologies, which offer few spiritual crumbs in the way of practical wisdom or useful esoteric knowledge. If the deeper mysteries/truths of creation were genuinely revealed and shared openly within these disparate ideologies, self-serving warfare would not be such a common practice.

Contemplate the spiritual truth that a warrior's odyssey is futile, for it's absolutely impossible to destroy the eternal life/soul of one's enemy.

Peace. forget 'caucasoid race', etc., all races fall for the manipulators' b.s.
tell me (forget about 'immortal souls'), does living a complete lie–completely clueless–constitute living?
'we will know we have won when everything the public believes is false.'–william casey, ex-cia director Read More

dcite , April 9, 2017 at 9:16 pm GMT \n
200 Words @Anonymouse Doesn't the mysterious collapse of Building 7 suggest no conspiracy. As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?

From the Zionists making Pearl Harbor happen to their race being the maleficient agent directing all of human history is not that much of a leap. In sober historical fact, Zionists in 1941 in Palestine under the English mandate were not remotely in a position of power. Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration, which in fact was not permitted by the sovereign nations that might have accepted them. Of course, you can always factor in that inconvenient fact into the conspiracy theory.

Doesn't the mysterious collapse of Building 7 suggest no conspiracy. As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?

I'm sure Larry Silverstein has the answer to that one. Snopes and "urban myths" assures us that it is, indeed, an urban myth, that Silverstein took out more insurance on Bldg 7 before 9/11/ and his decision to "pull it" (which meant it had to already be ready to pull.) But I don't trust them. Do you? I've also heard there were records being stored in Bldg 7 that "they" would prefer destroyed. Killing two birds with one stone so to speak.
Here's c&p partial table of contents for Bldg 7: offices of the FBI, Department of Defense, IRS (which contained prodigious amounts of corporate tax fraud, including Enron's), US Secret Service, Securities & Exchange Commission (with more stock fraud records), and Citibank's Salomon Smith Barney, the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management and many other financial institutions.
The well known Kissinger quote about soldiers just leaves one dropped jaw. How is it that we have allowed that creature such power. There he always was, at the top of some invisible pyramid. Could anyone see the trajectory of his rise? What allowed him to conduct human sacrifice on citizens of his own country and others. Read More

daniel le mouche , April 9, 2017 at 9:27 pm GMT \n
100 Words Haven't read the article yet, but love the woman's sign in the picture–'Our oppression is NOT up for debate'.
And boy does she look oppressed, along with her co-religionists/racists on the top of every profession that manipulates everyone else–hollywood, network tv, radio, newspapers, magazines, the music industry, universities, government, banks.
Nice try, prick. (Not that a single Unz reader was fooled.) Read More
Amanda , April 9, 2017 at 9:46 pm GMT \n
@Agent76 Sep 11, 2013 9/11 In A Nutshell as James Corbett presents this 5 minute parody of the official conspiracy theory of 9/11

https://youtu.be/vrJiKbK0tVM

Oct 8, 2016 Afghanistan: 15 Years of Invasion and Occupation

15 years after NATO's invasion and occupation of Afghanistan, the 9/11 and Al Qaeda lies that were used to justify the war have disappeared. Now the truth about oil and gas, mineral wealth, opium and naked imperial ambition are all that remain.

https://youtu.be/UBOdbkqVGAY Thanks for linking to James Corbett's video on 9/11–unfortunately, it should have many more views Read More

iffen , April 9, 2017 at 9:55 pm GMT \n
LOL Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
windship , April 9, 2017 at 10:01 pm GMT \n
200 Words My father was a career fireman who had tackled V2 rocket fires in WW2, and both airplane and high rise fires later, and was truly shocked by what happened on 9/11. It ate away at him and his belief in conservative politics. When he died a few years later he left me a large book collection on 9/11, which was quite an education – all of David Ray Griffin's efforts to wake people up, and a lot of photographic evidence he had collected. Since then, I've pursued the truth about those events in due respect for my father. I can see when politicians are lying, and when eye witnesses are telling the truth, and when people I know don't want to hear what I'm saying.

There really cannot be peace in this world when so much international policy is now built on such a rotten and blood-soaked foundation of deceit. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments

Amanda , April 9, 2017 at 10:11 pm GMT \n
100 Words @dcite

Doesn't the mysterious collapse of Building 7 suggest no conspiracy. As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?
I'm sure Larry Silverstein has the answer to that one. Snopes and "urban myths" assures us that it is, indeed, an urban myth, that Silverstein took out more insurance on Bldg 7 before 9/11/ and his decision to "pull it" (which meant it had to already be ready to pull.) But I don't trust them. Do you? I've also heard there were records being stored in Bldg 7 that "they" would prefer destroyed. Killing two birds with one stone so to speak.
Here's c&p partial table of contents for Bldg 7: offices of the FBI, Department of Defense, IRS (which contained prodigious amounts of corporate tax fraud, including Enron's), US Secret Service, Securities & Exchange Commission (with more stock fraud records), and Citibank's Salomon Smith Barney, the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management and many other financial institutions.
The well known Kissinger quote about soldiers just leaves one dropped jaw. How is it that we have allowed that creature such power. There he always was, at the top of some invisible pyramid. Could anyone see the trajectory of his rise? What allowed him to conduct human sacrifice on citizens of his own country and others. Yes, they always kill lots of birds with one stone. I also read about important documents being destroyed in Building 7 (pretty sure this was the case w/OKC bombing, apparently documents on Waco were destroyed)

Also, Max Keiser (years ago, can't recall which episode) talked about major financial fraud being run out of Cantor Fitzgerald (can't remember the details, but the idea was they were counterfeiting treasuries in extreme amounts, so all that evidence was also conveniently destroyed). And, of course there was also the targeting of the auditing offices at the pentagon that were looking into the missing $2.3 trillion (more on this here https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2014/10/13/counterfeiting-trillions-of-dollars-in-us-treasury-bonds-and-other-crimes/ )

Yes, Kissinger is a monster, probably protected b/c he works for the Oligarchy. It seems like all of our war criminals are a protected class. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

vinteuil , April 9, 2017 at 11:00 pm GMT \n
So, LD, it was you.

And all because I made the obvious point that you couldn't tell a flying squirrel from a hole in the ground – that you were a fantasist, & not a reporter. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments

Agent76 , April 10, 2017 at 1:11 am GMT \n
100 Words @unit472 I tend to believe my lying eyes and not deranged fanatics. Highrise buildings have not collapsed due to fire because they are not struck by fuel laden projectiles moving at 500 mph and weighing 250 tons. They also have firemen who are still alive and working fire suppression systems trying to put the fire out. All of that fire fighting capability disappeared on 9/11. The structural damage alone from the aircraft impact likely doomed both towers even in the absence of fires. NYPD helicopter pilots reported the top of towers were leaning long before they collapsed owing to the exterior steel walls being the main structural steel support in modern skyscrapers unlike the internal steel boxes used in older skyscrapers that required more steel to be used and limited floor space.

Building 7 is harder to explain but it had been hit with multiton steel beams moving at high speed from the collapse of the twin towers. These would have ripped apart electrical systems and caused fires. As building 7 was the site of the NYC Emergency operations center thousands of gallons of diesel fuel was stored in the building to operate generators and once fire personel were withdrawn nothing was left to prevent fire from reaching those generators and fuel supplies. It is really not hard if you read the right quality and quantity of books. September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century "What Really Happened"?

WTC Building exploding into fine dust (it is not burning down) by pre-planted explosives in an obvious controlled demolition.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-crime-and-cover-up-of-the-century/5544414 Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

wayfarer , April 10, 2017 at 1:54 am GMT \n
100 Words @daniel le mouche forget 'caucasoid race', etc., all races fall for the manipulators' b.s.
tell me (forget about 'immortal souls'), does living a complete lie--completely clueless--constitute living?
'we will know we have won when everything the public believes is false.'--william casey, ex-cia director I refer to disparate ideologies of the Caucasoid race, as divergent western religions (Islam, Christianity, and Judaism). These are the individual factions waging a "War on Terror" (WoT).

It is infighting within the Caucasoid race, caused by conflicting dogma that originates from "sacred texts" that are not too dissimilar from legacy software, which hasn't been updated for several thousand years.

IMO, the concept of an infinite intelligence/creative force within our universe, is so far beyond the antiquated teachings of the Torah, Bible, and Quran.

In this sense, I believe western civilization is spending its life living a lie, engulfed within ignorance. Read More

dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 1:58 am GMT \n
@Anonymous33 The real debate of the moment is whether Assad "did or didn'". The news is tellin' us he did, the alter-news says well maybe he didn'. Back n' forth it goes, like a little gerbil wheel for your mind. Maybe melting steel caused the gas release? What's for dinner?

The media works as one, developing your rodent like response to ignore the forest for the trees and focus on your next food pellet. So it is with the great sporting event of the 9/11, back n' forth, easy to digest, processed just for you.

Dinh might be a nice guy and believe in what he does, but he's just another narcotics courier, delivering thoughts and ideas that so many of his kind are trained to do, that serve to disable people more effectively than any overt real weapon. Getting any reaction is valuable, the best artists are widely hated, and they love that hate, but I'd say your real enemies (readers) are the ones you least suspect.

They'll call you terrorists, as Chris Hedges is increasingly doing to the people that read his output! Sound familiar? Linh Dinh's "violence" comes from his pen. He openly mocks his own neighbors, you love that hate, and even when he mocks you you'll still believe he offers the "truth" and hang on to every word. Ignore the forest for the trees at your own perile, but the bad guys are the ones you trust. WWII B-52 slams into the Empire State in a fog. No collapse. The twin towers were BUILT to withstand TWO airplane collisions. No complete collapse of a steel superstructure has ever happened before or since 9/11. How stupid, or how connected to Zio-trash are you? Read More

Falsehood , April 10, 2017 at 2:08 am GMT \n
100 Words @Truth I'd agree with that but I still don't quite get the lack of plane wreckage at the Pentagon.

LOL; what is there not to get; IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

I'm still waiting to see ONE photo of airplane wreckage on the pentagon lawn. The FBI just released pictures from the Pentagon crash site showing pieces of aircraft. Unfortunately this threatens years of efforts online to get people to focus, discuss and be monitored as they obsess over an elaborate connivance. A smaller effort in the war on terror programming aimed at the American mind.

What do you think the purpose of spreading nonsense like "a rocket hit the Pentagon" really is? Another fake point of opposition to the "evil Goverment's story" right? The more effective Government designs the attacks, designs the conspiracy chatter, and creates it's own opposition. Read More

Sam J. , April 10, 2017 at 2:37 am GMT \n
500 Words Most of the people here already know the story but to make sure others understand. There is no way possible that building #7 could have fallen the way it did without some type of demolition. I will explain. On 9-11 Building #7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped beside it in free air for roughly 108 feet. This means the building had no resistance to falling except air. Impossible without explosives.

All materials fall the same speed in a gravity field disregarding air friction which I don't thing we need to worry about for a building falling. So the speed of our imaginary rock falling next to the building is just gravity related. The speed of the buildings falling, the exact same as the rock, is just gravity also. This means that there was NOTHING to slow the fall of the building. The density of the material under the imaginary rock falling was air. The building fell the same therefore the density of the material under the building was also air. We know this is not true. Building #7 was not hovering in the air. The lower portions of the building were demoed out from under it.

It's makes NO difference how big the fires were. The buildings density never reached the same value as air! The fires did not boil away the building structure where it was light as air! All the talk about damage, fires, this, that, all bullshit because the building fell with all four corners almost level the same speed as a rock in AIR. If a building falls as fast as a rock and the rock is falling through JUST AIR then the building is falling through JUST AIR also. Simple equivalence. 1=1, 2=2, big rock falling in air=small rock falling in air=building falling in air. One problem is people sometimes believe that a really heavy thing will fall faster than a lighter thing. Not true. Look at this video of the Apollo astronaut dropping a feather and a hammer on the Moon. They land at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk

This is one of the best videos I've seen on the building #1 and #2. It's by a Mechanical Engineer. It's very interesting by itself even if you don't believe in any conspiracy, it's shows the towers, how they're designed and there's no hold your breath type speculation stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABuCO5ifeIE

The was a person in the building when some explosions happened. Barry Jennings a Emergency Management Worker who was in the building by accident and testified on tape the day it happened and later to a separate film crew. My guess is building 7 was supposed to come down at the same time the North tower fell and it's fall would covered by the dust plum or just in the general confusion but it didn't. Somebody screwed up. Building 7′s fall is the single best piece of information on 9-11 being a false flag and they know it. There's no way possible to twist the fall of this building into any reality without there being some demo or whatever to destroy the bottom out from under it. Read More

NoseytheDuke , April 10, 2017 at 3:52 am GMT \n
@Wolfred I used to have respect for you Linh Dinh, but no more.

You have just outed yourself as just another wacko nutjob. Any sound of dripping you may hear would more likely be that of a dripping tap than of Linh Dinh weeping at the thought of losing the respect of a nimrod such as the one who wrote the post I'm responding to. Seriously. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Truth , April 10, 2017 at 3:57 am GMT \n
@Falsehood The FBI just released pictures from the Pentagon crash site showing pieces of aircraft. Unfortunately this threatens years of efforts online to get people to focus, discuss and be monitored as they obsess over an elaborate connivance. A smaller effort in the war on terror programming aimed at the American mind.

What do you think the purpose of spreading nonsense like "a rocket hit the Pentagon" really is? Another fake point of opposition to the "evil Goverment's story" right? The more effective Government designs the attacks, designs the conspiracy chatter, and creates it's own opposition. Please post away, my friend, I'd love to see one. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

2stateshmoostate , April 10, 2017 at 4:01 am GMT \n
200 Words Excellent article.
I think there are only two way we might end control of the US government by the traitors who perpetrated 911.
One is to expose them at their most vulnerable point and that is 911. That attack doesn't hold up to reason. There's an endless of inconsistencies and contradictions that I won't go into here. How to get the attention of the American people? I don't know. I don't understand why the leaders adversarial states don't bring up the obvious fact that 911 was a false flag operation. This in order to DE-legitimize or create suspicion towards the US government. This is the kind of story I would think RT news would publish, and maybe they will if hostilities escalate between Russia and the US.
The other way we might get rid of these traitors is how Argentina got rid of the Generals; A massive military defeat that causes even the mindless lumps that are most of Americans to set up and take notice.
Ultimately these traitors will go, it's only a question of when and how much damage they do in the mean time.
Also I want to congratulate Mr. Dinh on his accurate prediction in a previous article that Trump was just another neocon puppet. I always agreed with that, because the scum that did 911 were not about to let anyone they don't control, get elected president of the US. Read More
2stateshmoostate , April 10, 2017 at 4:06 am GMT \n
@Shouting Thomas You're using Louis Farrakhan as a go to source?

You just trashed yourself. If you want to hear the truth about the US don't listen to Americas friends, listen to what our enemies and critics have to say. This is just plain common sense. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

NoseytheDuke , April 10, 2017 at 4:08 am GMT \n
100 Words @Falsehood The FBI just released pictures from the Pentagon crash site showing pieces of aircraft. Unfortunately this threatens years of efforts online to get people to focus, discuss and be monitored as they obsess over an elaborate connivance. A smaller effort in the war on terror programming aimed at the American mind.

What do you think the purpose of spreading nonsense like "a rocket hit the Pentagon" really is? Another fake point of opposition to the "evil Goverment's story" right? The more effective Government designs the attacks, designs the conspiracy chatter, and creates it's own opposition. How does a commercial passenger plane crash into a building and leave a hole about one third the size of the area of itself? How does a large, hollow, thin-skinned, alloy fuselage manage to penetrate several very thick walls all the way through to the third ring of the Pentagon?

A simple answer to both questions is, they don't. Both explanations are impossible. Pictures taken immediately afterwards are available on the web so you can see for yourself, and why has it taken you so long to look into this? Don't you care at all about the USA or are you just trolling? Read More

2stateshmoostate , April 10, 2017 at 4:27 am GMT \n
@Anonymous33 The real debate of the moment is whether Assad "did or didn'". The news is tellin' us he did, the alter-news says well maybe he didn'. Back n' forth it goes, like a little gerbil wheel for your mind. Maybe melting steel caused the gas release? What's for dinner?

The media works as one, developing your rodent like response to ignore the forest for the trees and focus on your next food pellet. So it is with the great sporting event of the 9/11, back n' forth, easy to digest, processed just for you.

Dinh might be a nice guy and believe in what he does, but he's just another narcotics courier, delivering thoughts and ideas that so many of his kind are trained to do, that serve to disable people more effectively than any overt real weapon. Getting any reaction is valuable, the best artists are widely hated, and they love that hate, but I'd say your real enemies (readers) are the ones you least suspect.

They'll call you terrorists, as Chris Hedges is increasingly doing to the people that read his output! Sound familiar? Linh Dinh's "violence" comes from his pen. He openly mocks his own neighbors, you love that hate, and even when he mocks you you'll still believe he offers the "truth" and hang on to every word. Ignore the forest for the trees at your own perile, but the bad guys are the ones you trust. You are either computer-bot writing this drivel or a paid troll. Either way your just wasting time. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Truth , April 10, 2017 at 4:35 am GMT \n
@NoseytheDuke How does a commercial passenger plane crash into a building and leave a hole about one third the size of the area of itself? How does a large, hollow, thin-skinned, alloy fuselage manage to penetrate several very thick walls all the way through to the third ring of the Pentagon?

A simple answer to both questions is, they don't. Both explanations are impossible. Pictures taken immediately afterwards are available on the web so you can see for yourself, and why has it taken you so long to look into this? Don't you care at all about the USA or are you just trolling? He's a Government-sanctioned cointelpro shill. If this is false, the truth is even worse. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

animalogic , April 10, 2017 at 5:05 am GMT \n
@dninmore This answer is simple. The Zionists were sending their "compatriots" - by force - to Palestine to populate their new illegitimate state - which is now a rogue, Apartheid one. The whole point of Zionism was to take over the world (their words, not mine), create a Jewish state in Palestine (not their first or second choice, btw), by butchering the native population - ethnic cleansing - to create the center for their NWO. They were even happy to blow up about 2,000 of their "compatriots" in a false flag on the ship Patria docked in port at Haifa to blame on the Brits - typical, yes? I'm sure you've heard of their policy to strip Jewish orphans from their European homes - at gun-point - to bring them to Palestine for the soon-to-be IDF model of violent indoctrination of their youth against Palestinians.

It's true Americans, and most of the world, wanted nothing to do with the parasitic Zionists. The fact that they were able to create both WWI and II, the UN, get their resolution passed and invade Palestine is a testament to how high they had infiltrated the US and GB governments. Of course, it helps when you have Chief SC Justice Brandeis and Franfurter, legislating from the court on behalf of the Zionists and all of the resources of the Rothchild gangsters.

Currently, 90% of the most powerful individuals in the US government, media and banks are Ashkenazy Jews - yet are only 2% of the US population and Ashkenazy are only 4% of that. Think about it.

As far as "extermination camps" go, the only ones I'm aware of (WWII) were created after the war by Eisenhower to finish what the Allies had begun. The only true "Holocaust" (destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war), was caused by the Allies on the German people in the horrific, unstoppable bombardments of phosphorous all over that country. These facts are never shown in the media, history education or Hollywood. I wonder why that is? Just a question: my understanding is that many 100,000′s Jew's were shot in Russia, Ukraine etc in 41-42′ (einstazgruppen [sp ?]) Is this still historically accurate or not ? Read More

animalogic , April 10, 2017 at 5:18 am GMT \n
100 Words @dninmore WWII B-52 slams into the Empire State in a fog. No collapse. The twin towers were BUILT to withstand TWO airplane collisions. No complete collapse of a steel superstructure has ever happened before or since 9/11. How stupid, or how connected to Zio-trash are you? Excuse me for being pedantic (b/c your point is good) but I think it was a B 25 Mitchel bomber that flew into the Empire State. B 52′s were at least a decade later. (Although there is some size difference btwn WW II bombers & modern jetliners: not sure whether any size difference is relevant tho). Read More
Redpill , April 10, 2017 at 6:43 am GMT \n
@Anonymouse Doesn't the mysterious collapse of Building 7 suggest no conspiracy. As the building was empty undergoing a rebuild, what would be the point of destroying it?

From the Zionists making Pearl Harbor happen to their race being the maleficient agent directing all of human history is not that much of a leap. In sober historical fact, Zionists in 1941 in Palestine under the English mandate were not remotely in a position of power. Had they the power, they might have saved their compatriots in Europe by orchestrating massive emigration, which in fact was not permitted by the sovereign nations that might have accepted them. Of course, you can always factor in that inconvenient fact into the conspiracy theory. No, the classic controlled demolition style of WTC7′s collapse suggests exactly the opposite. Only explosives canmake a building fall that way, and only insiders could have had the time and access necessary to rig the building. Don't be obtuse. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

utu , April 10, 2017 at 6:51 am GMT \n
100 Words @2stateshmoostate Excellent article.
I think there are only two way we might end control of the US government by the traitors who perpetrated 911.
One is to expose them at their most vulnerable point and that is 911. That attack doesn't hold up to reason. There's an endless of inconsistencies and contradictions that I won't go into here. How to get the attention of the American people? I don't know. I don't understand why the leaders adversarial states don't bring up the obvious fact that 911 was a false flag operation. This in order to DE-legitimize or create suspicion towards the US government. This is the kind of story I would think RT news would publish, and maybe they will if hostilities escalate between Russia and the US.
The other way we might get rid of these traitors is how Argentina got rid of the Generals; A massive military defeat that causes even the mindless lumps that are most of Americans to set up and take notice.
Ultimately these traitors will go, it's only a question of when and how much damage they do in the mean time.
Also I want to congratulate Mr. Dinh on his accurate prediction in a previous article that Trump was just another neocon puppet. I always agreed with that, because the scum that did 911 were not about to let anyone they don't control, get elected president of the US.

"I don't understand why the leaders adversarial states don't bring up the obvious fact that 911 was a false flag operation. "

Putin's FSB did false flag bombings of apartment buildings in Russia to start the 2nd war in Chechnya in 1999.

It is possible that the secret agencies that do such things exchange notes among themselves and can be even subcontracted. Read More

Greg Bacon , Website April 10, 2017 at 10:25 am GMT \n
200 Words I too am a retired career Fire Lieutenant/EMT that fought structure fires as a firefighter, acting Lieutenant, Lieutenant and twice, as Incident Commander, overseeing the entire op. I also have over 400 hours of college level firefighting credit from our State university's Fire School.

I've fought fires in a variety of buildings, including hi-rises and have seen building collapses, mostly due to the tremendous amount of water applied to the building, which increased the weight beyond the architects limits.
When buildings fall, they drop down in a random, haphazard manner, they don't explode and send a plume of heated smoke, gases and debris 500′ into the air and rumbling down NYC streets for blocks and blocks.

To those who still cling to the lies, tell me this: What kind of building 'collapse' makes nearly 1,000 WTC victims bodies explode into bits so small, they had to use DNA testing on bone fragments the size of a fingernail?
And what kind of building collapse causes generates enough force to lob a 20 ton steel beam over 350′ and still have enough force left over to have the beam impale itself in the Deutsche Bank building?

9/11 was an Israeli masterminded False Flag with help from traitors in the WH, the Pentagon, CIA, FBA and NSA. With generous help from the Lying MSM.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

Until we realize that, these endless 'Wars for Wall Street and Israel' will go on until the USA collapses from financial, physical and moral exhaustion. Read More Agree: Rurik

dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 12:01 pm GMT \n
100 Words @animalogic Excuse me for being pedantic (b/c your point is good) but I think it was a B 25 Mitchel bomber that flew into the Empire State. B 52's were at least a decade later. (Although there is some size difference btwn WW II bombers & modern jetliners: not sure whether any size difference is relevant tho). Thank you. Lol. Dyslexia. Yes, you are correct. B25 carried about 1,000 gallons of fuel, but could use an auxiliary tank to carry almost 1,500 gallons.

My point is that, regardless of the amount of fuel, we know most of it burns off in the initial explosion and the rest burns off in a few minutes.

The firefighters who arrived and witnessed the impact floors said they could knock down the fires with 2 or 3 lines – and they had lots of experience fighting fires in the towers.

To the idea that the fires were burning so hot to melt steel – a physical impossibility – why were so many people seen 40 minutes after, clinging to the structure at the windows? They should have been incinerated, but weren't. Read More

dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 12:12 pm GMT \n
@animalogic Just a question: my understanding is that many 100,000's Jew's were shot in Russia, Ukraine etc in 41-42' (einstazgruppen [sp ?]) Is this still historically accurate or not ? Russian side of things is not where my focus has been. I'm talking towards the 6million, extermination policy, gas chamber lies. It's a multi-billion dollar industry that needs to go away. The world doesn't need to be "educated" by Jews about suffering or man's inhumanity. Read More Agree: anarchyst
Agent76 , April 10, 2017 at 12:54 pm GMT \n
@Amanda Thanks for linking to James Corbett's video on 9/11--unfortunately, it should have many more views View my other post's on this topic especially the one Rudy Giuliani and be prepared to have your socks blown off. Read More
animalogic , April 10, 2017 at 1:07 pm GMT \n
@dninmore Russian side of things is not where my focus has been. I'm talking towards the 6million, extermination policy, gas chamber lies. It's a multi-billion dollar industry that needs to go away. The world doesn't need to be "educated" by Jews about suffering or man's inhumanity. I understand that. I am open minded. But, I have been lead to believe that the shooting of Jew's was a considerable % of the 6 MIL. Further, the "camps" we're a response to the expense & general messiness of mass shooting. Read More
dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 2:38 pm GMT \n
100 Words Nope. I won't go there. Any Jews shot in Russia have NOTHING to do with the 6 million lie I have been told all of my life. It has only been "6 million Jews gassed to death in Nazi death camps". It never was "most of them were shot in Russia". Well, until after the Ernst Zundel trial of 1985 in Toronto, which prompted Auschwitz to drop their "official" numbers down by 3 million – and yet, we still hear about 6 million. Then we begin to hear about shootings, mobile van gassings and mass grave pit burning, which is all absurd and mathematically impossible. Two questions for you: Where are the 6 million bodies that were gassed in Nazi camps?, and How did the Nazi's dispose of the bodies without putting themselves in grave jeopardy – due to the extremely toxic effects of Zyklon-B? Read More Agree: anarchyst Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 2:44 pm GMT \n
@Sam J. Most of the people here already know the story but to make sure others understand. There is no way possible that building #7 could have fallen the way it did without some type of demolition. I will explain. On 9-11 Building #7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped beside it in free air for roughly 108 feet. This means the building had no resistance to falling except air. Impossible without explosives.

All materials fall the same speed in a gravity field disregarding air friction which I don't thing we need to worry about for a building falling. So the speed of our imaginary rock falling next to the building is just gravity related. The speed of the buildings falling, the exact same as the rock, is just gravity also. This means that there was NOTHING to slow the fall of the building. The density of the material under the imaginary rock falling was air. The building fell the same therefore the density of the material under the building was also air. We know this is not true. Building #7 was not hovering in the air. The lower portions of the building were demoed out from under it.

It's makes NO difference how big the fires were. The buildings density never reached the same value as air! The fires did not boil away the building structure where it was light as air! All the talk about damage, fires, this, that, all bullshit because the building fell with all four corners almost level the same speed as a rock in AIR. If a building falls as fast as a rock and the rock is falling through JUST AIR then the building is falling through JUST AIR also. Simple equivalence. 1=1, 2=2, big rock falling in air=small rock falling in air=building falling in air. One problem is people sometimes believe that a really heavy thing will fall faster than a lighter thing. Not true. Look at this video of the Apollo astronaut dropping a feather and a hammer on the Moon. They land at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk

This is one of the best videos I've seen on the building #1 and #2. It's by a Mechanical Engineer. It's very interesting by itself even if you don't believe in any conspiracy, it's shows the towers, how they're designed and there's no hold your breath type speculation stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABuCO5ifeIE

The was a person in the building when some explosions happened. Barry Jennings a Emergency Management Worker who was in the building by accident and testified on tape the day it happened and later to a separate film crew. My guess is building 7 was supposed to come down at the same time the North tower fell and it's fall would covered by the dust plum or just in the general confusion but it didn't. Somebody screwed up. Building 7's fall is the single best piece of information on 9-11 being a false flag and they know it. There's no way possible to twist the fall of this building into any reality without there being some demo or whatever to destroy the bottom out from under it. I always thought UA Flight 93 was supposed to hit Bldg 7. No evidence, just a hunch. Read More

2stateshmoostate , April 10, 2017 at 2:50 pm GMT \n
100 Words @utu

"I don't understand why the leaders adversarial states don't bring up the obvious fact that 911 was a false flag operation. "
Putin's FSB did false flag bombings of apartment buildings in Russia to start the 2nd war in Chechnya in 1999.

It is possible that the secret agencies that do such things exchange notes among themselves and can be even subcontracted. I remember that and I came to the same conclusion. We're definitely in a pretty screwed up world.
I do remember Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran was the only government leader who had the guts to speak the truth about 911. I'm sure that's one of the reasons he was so hated by the Israeli controlled MSM Read More Agree: Amanda Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Amanda , April 10, 2017 at 3:40 pm GMT \n
I think most on this thread have probably researched 9/11 a great deal, but in case some are new here, I'll post a couple of things I found especially helpful:

Missing Links documentary- explores the Zionist role in 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qFa9_JjlYc

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Amanda , April 10, 2017 at 3:50 pm GMT \n
100 Words @Agent76 View my other post's on this topic especially the one Rudy Giuliani and be prepared to have your socks blown off. I'll be sure to do so. I've actually started delving back into 911 again, as I noticed that Corbett report has some videos up that I missed (especially one on the missing trillions, and one on missing gold). I think he also has some videos on individual 9/11 criminals, including Rudy Giuliani Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
Talha , April 10, 2017 at 4:15 pm GMT \n
@Greg Bacon I too am a retired career Fire Lieutenant/EMT that fought structure fires as a firefighter, acting Lieutenant, Lieutenant and twice, as Incident Commander, overseeing the entire op. I also have over 400 hours of college level firefighting credit from our State university's Fire School.

I've fought fires in a variety of buildings, including hi-rises and have seen building collapses, mostly due to the tremendous amount of water applied to the building, which increased the weight beyond the architects limits.
When buildings fall, they drop down in a random, haphazard manner, they don't explode and send a plume of heated smoke, gases and debris 500' into the air and rumbling down NYC streets for blocks and blocks.

To those who still cling to the lies, tell me this: What kind of building 'collapse' makes nearly 1,000 WTC victims bodies explode into bits so small, they had to use DNA testing on bone fragments the size of a fingernail?
And what kind of building collapse causes generates enough force to lob a 20 ton steel beam over 350' and still have enough force left over to have the beam impale itself in the Deutsche Bank building?

9/11 was an Israeli masterminded False Flag with help from traitors in the WH, the Pentagon, CIA, FBA and NSA. With generous help from the Lying MSM.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

Until we realize that, these endless 'Wars for Wall Street and Israel' will go on until the USA collapses from financial, physical and moral exhaustion. Hey GB,

Wow! Great post – I love it when commentators add some real value to the discussion based on their individual expertise or background. Much appreciated!

I had no clue about that beam nor the condition of the bodies.

Peace. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Anonymouse , April 10, 2017 at 4:17 pm GMT \n
200 Words @dninmore This answer is simple. The Zionists were sending their "compatriots" - by force - to Palestine to populate their new illegitimate state - which is now a rogue, Apartheid one. The whole point of Zionism was to take over the world (their words, not mine), create a Jewish state in Palestine (not their first or second choice, btw), by butchering the native population - ethnic cleansing - to create the center for their NWO. They were even happy to blow up about 2,000 of their "compatriots" in a false flag on the ship Patria docked in port at Haifa to blame on the Brits - typical, yes? I'm sure you've heard of their policy to strip Jewish orphans from their European homes - at gun-point - to bring them to Palestine for the soon-to-be IDF model of violent indoctrination of their youth against Palestinians.

It's true Americans, and most of the world, wanted nothing to do with the parasitic Zionists. The fact that they were able to create both WWI and II, the UN, get their resolution passed and invade Palestine is a testament to how high they had infiltrated the US and GB governments. Of course, it helps when you have Chief SC Justice Brandeis and Franfurter, legislating from the court on behalf of the Zionists and all of the resources of the Rothchild gangsters.

Currently, 90% of the most powerful individuals in the US government, media and banks are Ashkenazy Jews - yet are only 2% of the US population and Ashkenazy are only 4% of that. Think about it.

As far as "extermination camps" go, the only ones I'm aware of (WWII) were created after the war by Eisenhower to finish what the Allies had begun. The only true "Holocaust" (destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war), was caused by the Allies on the German people in the horrific, unstoppable bombardments of phosphorous all over that country. These facts are never shown in the media, history education or Hollywood. I wonder why that is? The jewish population throughout Europe before WW II was ~11 million according to the censuses of such countries as England, France, Germany, Scandinavia, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Soviet Union, etc conducted in those years. In 1948 the jewish population of Palestine was ~500,000 according to the census of the Brits who ruled that country. All of these figures may be confirmed without great research efforts.

On another related subject, the jews in Israel after the instauration of their polity in 1948 waxed mightily. The lowly jews and court jews of recent history were replaced by human beings with agency, still I would aver without possessing great geopolitical might. And have elicited world-wide envious hate. With their top-notch military + hundreds of nuclear weapons + 5 state-of-the art submarines, they are in a better position to withstand their enemies. The implacable hatred of the Moslems, so far impotent, is also a given. Stay tuned and gai gesunt! Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Obscured American: Rudy Dent a 9-11 First Responder -[Because suing US for 9-11 is still the key to justice & liberty!] | The Paradise Post - REAL World News From Taiwan , April 10, 2017 at 4:30 pm GMT \n
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Carlton Meyer , Website April 10, 2017 at 5:30 pm GMT \n
300 Words Over the years, I've read debates and seen videos with hundreds of convincing reasons why the official 9-11 story is false. Most Americans are too lazy or spineless to read though any of these arguments. Here is the simplest one for simpletons.

The Pentagon is one of the most secure buildings in the USA, with dozens of security cameras covering every angle. There are also many private businesses nearby with security cameras, and tourists with camcorders and cameras. Crime is high in Washington DC so security cameras are common. If the Pentagon attack story is true, why can't the government provide a single clear videotape or picture of the American airliner approaching or hitting the Pentagon? They reluctantly released a couple of edited tapes of a fuzzy flash explosion and smoke, but no visual proof of an American Airlines airliner in flight.

Does anyone want to play devil's advocate and post a possible excuse for this?

Recall the four security cameras pointing at the 1995 OKC bombing stopped working shortly before the bombing and resumed after the explosion, according to the FBI, which refused to release them for years. For those who like video, the testimony of Secretary Mineta about 9-11 is disturbing yet little discussed. He was sitting with Cheney as a military officer provided updates on the airplane heading toward the Pentagon, and there was some "standing order" that had been made. Nevertheless, none of the Pentagon's air defense systems fired at the airliner and again, no one took pictures or videotaped the incoming aircraft! Did all the security cameras "stop working" too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y Read More Agree: L.K

dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 5:40 pm GMT \n
300 Words http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000636#graph3

Yes, Jews population increased during WWII in Europe, N. America and the World. Where, exactly, does the "6 million" come from – other than the cabala?

They did have "great geopolitical might". Look what they were able to accomplish, albeit by deceit and terrorism.

The "envious hate" you refer to is laughable – there's no envy for what the Jews have done and continue to do.

"With their top-notch military + hundreds of nuclear weapons + 5 state-of-the art submarines, they are in a better position to withstand their enemies."

I'd love to see this "top-notch military" (who runs away from rock-throwing children or shoots them) take on a real enemy in a real ground war – not a terrorist action, or one where they just drop bombs. All of America's wars have been fought overseas. I'd like to see the Jews try that – just once.

The nuclear arsenal (technology/uranium, etc.) was stolen from the US and has never been inspected – but they bitch and moan about Iran and N. Korea. (Couldn't be that those two countries have refused the Rothschild banking "system", could it?)

"The implacable hatred of the Moslems, so far impotent, is also a given."

If it wasn't for the Jews, and what they have done in Palestine and the Middle East (now the world), there wouldn't be a problem. Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in relative peace for a century before that.

The Jews have no tolerance for any race beyond their self-proclaimed "master" race and any Jew who supports the illegitimate Apartheid rogue state, is more the problem than the Nutty-Yahoos. It is illegal to do business with any Apartheid state. This needs to be enforced, instead of running around the world passing legislation to make it a crime – along with any criticism of the hollow cost. Read More Agree: anarchyst

anarchyst , April 10, 2017 at 6:04 pm GMT \n
100 Words @dninmore http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000636#graph3

Yes, Jews population increased during WWII in Europe, N. America and the World. Where, exactly, does the "6 million" come from - other than the cabala?

They did have "great geopolitical might". Look what they were able to accomplish, albeit by deceit and terrorism.

The "envious hate" you refer to is laughable - there's no envy for what the Jews have done and continue to do.

"With their top-notch military + hundreds of nuclear weapons + 5 state-of-the art submarines, they are in a better position to withstand their enemies."

I'd love to see this "top-notch military" (who runs away from rock-throwing children or shoots them) take on a real enemy in a real ground war - not a terrorist action, or one where they just drop bombs. All of America's wars have been fought overseas. I'd like to see the Jews try that - just once.

The nuclear arsenal (technology/uranium, etc.) was stolen from the US and has never been inspected - but they bitch and moan about Iran and N. Korea. (Couldn't be that those two countries have refused the Rothschild banking "system", could it?)

"The implacable hatred of the Moslems, so far impotent, is also a given."

If it wasn't for the Jews, and what they have done in Palestine and the Middle East (now the world), there wouldn't be a problem. Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in relative peace for a century before that.

The Jews have no tolerance for any race beyond their self-proclaimed "master" race and any Jew who supports the illegitimate Apartheid rogue state, is more the problem than the Nutty-Yahoos. It is illegal to do business with any Apartheid state. This needs to be enforced, instead of running around the world passing legislation to make it a crime - along with any criticism of the hollow cost. Israel has always refused inspection of its nuclear arsenal because it would not be able to account for all of them. You see, Israel's "Samson Option" requires it to have its nukes pre-positioned all around the world, ready for use. According to the Samson option, Israel promises to nuke a European or American city if it is "attacked". Since Israel has no "delivery system" (until recently) what better way to be "prepared" than to have them already in place? As Israel's spy system (Mossad) is second to none, it would be relatively easy to smuggle them into the various countries (with hasbara help).
THIS is the major reason why Israel refuses international inspection of its nukes Read More

dninmore , April 10, 2017 at 6:19 pm GMT \n
@anarchyst Israel has always refused inspection of its nuclear arsenal because it would not be able to account for all of them. You see, Israel's "Samson Option" requires it to have its nukes pre-positioned all around the world, ready for use. According to the Samson option, Israel promises to nuke a European or American city if it is "attacked". Since Israel has no "delivery system" (until recently) what better way to be "prepared" than to have them already in place? As Israel's spy system (Mossad) is second to none, it would be relatively easy to smuggle them into the various countries (with hasbara help).
THIS is the major reason why Israel refuses international inspection of its nukes... Thank you for that. That is news to me and I will research the topic. I must say, I never understood from day one why 9/11 was referred to as "ground zero" – unless it was truth flaunted out in the open. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
anarchyst , April 10, 2017 at 6:37 pm GMT \n
@Carlton Meyer Over the years, I've read debates and seen videos with hundreds of convincing reasons why the official 9-11 story is false. Most Americans are too lazy or spineless to read though any of these arguments. Here is the simplest one for simpletons.

The Pentagon is one of the most secure buildings in the USA, with dozens of security cameras covering every angle. There are also many private businesses nearby with security cameras, and tourists with camcorders and cameras. Crime is high in Washington DC so security cameras are common. If the Pentagon attack story is true, why can't the government provide a single clear videotape or picture of the American airliner approaching or hitting the Pentagon? They reluctantly released a couple of edited tapes of a fuzzy flash explosion and smoke, but no visual proof of an American Airlines airliner in flight.

Does anyone want to play devil's advocate and post a possible excuse for this?

Recall the four security cameras pointing at the 1995 OKC bombing stopped working shortly before the bombing and resumed after the explosion, according to the FBI, which refused to release them for years. For those who like video, the testimony of Secretary Mineta about 9-11 is disturbing yet little discussed. He was sitting with Cheney as a military officer provided updates on the airplane heading toward the Pentagon, and there was some "standing order" that had been made. Nevertheless, none of the Pentagon's air defense systems fired at the airliner and again, no one took pictures or videotaped the incoming aircraft! Did all the security cameras "stop working" too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y Not only that, but the ATF and FBI agents were told to stay home that day there was an article in the Chicago Tribune on the Sunday following the blast that stated as such Read More

Si1ver1ock , April 10, 2017 at 6:47 pm GMT \n
When you see something obviously wrong and the media won't cover it, you start to wonder what else they are lying about.

Rudy Dent is a true hero.

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Coddingtons Corner: Obscured American – Rudy Dent a 9-11 First Responder | R3publicans , April 10, 2017 at 7:36 pm GMT \n
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Bill Jones , April 10, 2017 at 11:32 pm GMT \n
@dninmore Typical response from a Hasbara. No supporting evidence to refute the facts, so you go to ad hominem. The bint on the BBC world service TV announcing the collapse of WTC7 twenty minutes before it happened is usually classified as a clue by the non-insane. Read More
dninmore , April 11, 2017 at 12:19 am GMT \n
100 Words @Bill Jones The bint on the BBC world service TV announcing the collapse of WTC7 twenty minutes before it happened is usually classified as a clue by the non-insane. Right. Thank you. Dan Rather's live comment that "it looks like one of those demolitions you see" never is mentioned, again, despite all of the witness testimony to "multiple explosions". Nothing to see here. Not one day spent in a court of law over the greatest crime on American soil. Read More
daniel le mouche , April 11, 2017 at 12:23 am GMT \n
300 Words @wayfarer I refer to disparate ideologies of the Caucasoid race, as divergent western religions (Islam, Christianity, and Judaism). These are the individual factions waging a "War on Terror" (WoT).

It is infighting within the Caucasoid race, caused by conflicting dogma that originates from "sacred texts" that are not too dissimilar from legacy software, which hasn't been updated for several thousand years.

IMO, the concept of an infinite intelligence/creative force within our universe, is so far beyond the antiquated teachings of the Torah, Bible, and Quran.

In this sense, I believe western civilization is spending its life living a lie, engulfed within ignorance. 'It is infighting within the Caucasoid race, caused by conflicting dogma that originates from "sacred texts" that are not too dissimilar from legacy software, which hasn't been updated for several thousand years.'

As I said above, the Caucasoid race isn't the world's great problem. You put Muslims in this Caucasoid race of yours. This would include Pakistanis, Indonesians, Filipinos, Malaysians, many African nations, and other scattered peoples from eastern Europe to Russia to China to the United States.
Let's move on to Christians. They would include the oldest sects of Copts in Egypt, as well as newcomers like Koreans, as well as large populations in North and South America.
As for legacy software, I don't know what that is.

But your comment reminds me of a video I watched recently with some very angry, hate-filled black American going on about the 'caucasoid ape man'. Check it out, if you didn't make it yourself.

'IMO, the concept of an infinite intelligence/creative force within our universe, is so far beyond the antiquated teachings of the Torah, Bible, and Quran.'

Agreed, and I don't subscribe to any of the above. Nor do I subscribe to much else, e.g. Buddhism, Shinto, Hinduism, African tribal religions, American Indian religions. There may be infinite wisdom and intelligence, there may not be. Some religions appear to be gentler and nicer and better than others–Jainism comes to mind. People are certainly wacky, certainly interesting too. The depths as well as strangeness of human religion is staggering. Catholicism alone probably takes the cake in both those categories.
As for living a lie, I'm not sure. People strive for the truth, at least a certain percentage do–and no where more than in the west, it seems to me. We're fed nothing but lies by our rulers, but again, this goes for all countries and peoples, at least in the modern world. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

daniel le mouche , April 11, 2017 at 12:31 am GMT \n
100 Words @Falsehood The FBI just released pictures from the Pentagon crash site showing pieces of aircraft. Unfortunately this threatens years of efforts online to get people to focus, discuss and be monitored as they obsess over an elaborate connivance. A smaller effort in the war on terror programming aimed at the American mind.

What do you think the purpose of spreading nonsense like "a rocket hit the Pentagon" really is? Another fake point of opposition to the "evil Goverment's story" right? The more effective Government designs the attacks, designs the conspiracy chatter, and creates it's own opposition. 'The more effective Government designs the attacks, designs the conspiracy chatter, and creates it's own opposition.'

Yes, and it does of course do that. It leaves no stone unturned. And yet

'What do you think the purpose of spreading nonsense like "a rocket hit the Pentagon" really is?'

You seems to be a bit too clever to believe the incredibly b.s. govt. story. Downright Chomskyesque. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

NoseytheDuke , April 11, 2017 at 12:33 am GMT \n
100 Words @2stateshmoostate Excellent article.
I think there are only two way we might end control of the US government by the traitors who perpetrated 911.
One is to expose them at their most vulnerable point and that is 911. That attack doesn't hold up to reason. There's an endless of inconsistencies and contradictions that I won't go into here. How to get the attention of the American people? I don't know. I don't understand why the leaders adversarial states don't bring up the obvious fact that 911 was a false flag operation. This in order to DE-legitimize or create suspicion towards the US government. This is the kind of story I would think RT news would publish, and maybe they will if hostilities escalate between Russia and the US.
The other way we might get rid of these traitors is how Argentina got rid of the Generals; A massive military defeat that causes even the mindless lumps that are most of Americans to set up and take notice.
Ultimately these traitors will go, it's only a question of when and how much damage they do in the mean time.
Also I want to congratulate Mr. Dinh on his accurate prediction in a previous article that Trump was just another neocon puppet. I always agreed with that, because the scum that did 911 were not about to let anyone they don't control, get elected president of the US. Back to basics, handbills and posters pasted at stations, train and bus windows, at busy intersections, college notice boards, shopping centres etc. Stencils with succinct slogans can be distributed via websites and blogs then sprayed on to sidewalks especially busy intersections. Hard-to-remove bumper stickers can be affixed to buses, taxis and commercial vehicles. It won't happen overnight but as the awareness grows so the tipping point becomes ever closer. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
dninmore , April 11, 2017 at 12:39 am GMT \n
@anarchyst Not only that, but the ATF and FBI agents were told to stay home that day...there was an article in the Chicago Tribune on the Sunday following the blast that stated as such... Don't forget about Odigo and who else didn't show up that day Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
NoseytheDuke , April 11, 2017 at 12:39 am GMT \n
@dninmore Thank you. Lol. Dyslexia. Yes, you are correct. B25 carried about 1,000 gallons of fuel, but could use an auxiliary tank to carry almost 1,500 gallons.

My point is that, regardless of the amount of fuel, we know most of it burns off in the initial explosion and the rest burns off in a few minutes.

The firefighters who arrived and witnessed the impact floors said they could knock down the fires with 2 or 3 lines - and they had lots of experience fighting fires in the towers.

To the idea that the fires were burning so hot to melt steel - a physical impossibility - why were so many people seen 40 minutes after, clinging to the structure at the windows? They should have been incinerated, but weren't. B25 burned petrol (gasoline) whilst the jets that struck the towers burned a far less flammable jet fuel (refined kerosine). Read More

daniel le mouche , April 11, 2017 at 12:39 am GMT \n
100 Words @Sam J. Most of the people here already know the story but to make sure others understand. There is no way possible that building #7 could have fallen the way it did without some type of demolition. I will explain. On 9-11 Building #7 fell the same speed as a rock dropped beside it in free air for roughly 108 feet. This means the building had no resistance to falling except air. Impossible without explosives.

All materials fall the same speed in a gravity field disregarding air friction which I don't thing we need to worry about for a building falling. So the speed of our imaginary rock falling next to the building is just gravity related. The speed of the buildings falling, the exact same as the rock, is just gravity also. This means that there was NOTHING to slow the fall of the building. The density of the material under the imaginary rock falling was air. The building fell the same therefore the density of the material under the building was also air. We know this is not true. Building #7 was not hovering in the air. The lower portions of the building were demoed out from under it.

It's makes NO difference how big the fires were. The buildings density never reached the same value as air! The fires did not boil away the building structure where it was light as air! All the talk about damage, fires, this, that, all bullshit because the building fell with all four corners almost level the same speed as a rock in AIR. If a building falls as fast as a rock and the rock is falling through JUST AIR then the building is falling through JUST AIR also. Simple equivalence. 1=1, 2=2, big rock falling in air=small rock falling in air=building falling in air. One problem is people sometimes believe that a really heavy thing will fall faster than a lighter thing. Not true. Look at this video of the Apollo astronaut dropping a feather and a hammer on the Moon. They land at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk

This is one of the best videos I've seen on the building #1 and #2. It's by a Mechanical Engineer. It's very interesting by itself even if you don't believe in any conspiracy, it's shows the towers, how they're designed and there's no hold your breath type speculation stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABuCO5ifeIE

The was a person in the building when some explosions happened. Barry Jennings a Emergency Management Worker who was in the building by accident and testified on tape the day it happened and later to a separate film crew. My guess is building 7 was supposed to come down at the same time the North tower fell and it's fall would covered by the dust plum or just in the general confusion but it didn't. Somebody screwed up. Building 7's fall is the single best piece of information on 9-11 being a false flag and they know it. There's no way possible to twist the fall of this building into any reality without there being some demo or whatever to destroy the bottom out from under it. Yes, and the Twin Towers came down at freefall speed too–all I needed, having knowledge of this basic principle of physics, to say, 'That's impossible.' It was and is, of course.
But there's no piece in their idiotic puzzle that makes any more sense. Building 7, the Pentagon where no plane was to be seen, Shanksville's crater, and debris scattered for miles, etc. etc. etc. etc.
Still, all the moles and trolls keep the petal to the metal, repeat, repeat–'Konspearissy Kkoooockss, HaHaHaHaHA'. Read More Agree: Amanda

daniel le mouche , April 11, 2017 at 12:59 am GMT \n
Also Wayfarer,
'infighting within the Caucasoid race, caused by conflicting dogma that originates from "sacred texts".
This is a load of crap. There is only deep cynicism in the rarified air and dizzying heights of Master. George Bush is a devout born again–crap. Tony Blair has converted to Catholicism–crap. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
Bill Jones , April 11, 2017 at 1:14 am GMT \n
@dninmore Right. Thank you. Dan Rather's live comment that "it looks like one of those demolitions you see" never is mentioned, again, despite all of the witness testimony to "multiple explosions". Nothing to see here. Not one day spent in a court of law over the greatest crime on American soil. The greatest crime on American soil was Truman's approval of the State of Israel. Read More
utu , April 11, 2017 at 1:35 am GMT \n
@Bill Jones The greatest crime on American soil was Truman's approval of the State of Israel. First Truman was getting hints that he might be assassinated

Israel's Stern Gang Mailed Letter Bomb to White House, President Truman
https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2016/10/11/israels-stern-gang-mailed-letter-bomb-white-house-president-truman/

and then Truman accepted a suitcase with $2 million during presidential campaign (per Gore Vidal)
https://unvis.it/realjewnews.com/?p=217

The well tried Plomo o Plata offer you can't refuse. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

dninmore , April 11, 2017 at 1:38 am GMT \n
@NoseytheDuke B25 burned petrol (gasoline) whilst the jets that struck the towers burned a far less flammable jet fuel (refined kerosine). I was unaware. Thank you for that. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
dninmore , April 11, 2017 at 1:41 am GMT \n
@Bill Jones The greatest crime on American soil was Truman's approval of the State of Israel. Noted, but that doesn't override the law, which is that the resolution was made and voted on in the General Assembly. It needed to be ratified or adopted by the Security Council. It never was, hence its illegitimacy. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
Bill Jones , April 11, 2017 at 2:06 am GMT \n
500 Words @Amanda Thanks for linking to James Corbett's video on 9/11--unfortunately, it should have many more views The Official Version of 9/11 goes something like this

Directed by a beardy-guy from a cave in Afghanistan, ( This well appointed Suite http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/nether_fictoid3.htm according to the London Times): nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah

Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, passengers and pilots on four planes

And hangover or not, they manage to give the world's most sophisticated air defense system the slip

Unfazed by leaving their "How to Fly a Passenger Jet" guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls in no-time and score direct hits on two towers, causing THREE to collapse completely

Our masterminds even manage to overpower the odd law of physics or two and the world watches in awe as steel-framed buildings fall symmetrically – through their own mass – at free-fall speed, for the first time in history.

Despite all their dastardly cunning, they stupidly give their identity away by using explosion-proof passports, which survive the fireball undamaged and fall to the ground only to be discovered by the incredible crime-fighting sleuths at the FBI

Meanwhile down in Washington

Hani Hanjour, having previously flunked 2-man Cessna flying school, gets carried away with all the success of the day and suddenly finds incredible abilities behind the controls of a Boeing

Instead of flying straight down into the large roof area of the Pentagon, he decides to show off a little

Executing an incredible 270 degree downward spiral, he levels off to hit the low facade of the world's most heavily defended building

all without a single shot being fired . or ruining the nicely mowed lawn and all at a speed just too fast to capture on video

Later, in the skies above Pennsylvania

So desperate to talk to loved ones before their death, some passengers use sheer willpower to connect mobile calls that otherwise would not be possible until several years later

And following a heroic attempt by some to retake control of Flight 93, it crashes into a Shankesville field leaving no trace of engines, fuselage or occupants except for the standard issue Muslim terrorists bandana

Further south in Florida

President Bush, our brave Commander-in-Chief continues to read "My Pet Goat" to a class full of primary school children shrugging off the obvious possibility that his life could be in imminent danger

In New York

World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein blesses his own foresight in insuring the buildings against terrorist attack only six weeks previously

While back in Washington, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz shake their heads in disbelief at their own luck in getting the 'New Pearl Harbor' catalyzing event they so desired to pursue their agenda of world domination

And finally, not to be disturbed too much by reports of their own deaths, at least seven of our nineteen suicide hijackers turn up alive and kicking in mainstream media reports

And If you don't believe this, you are a conspiracy theorist. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Paul C. , April 11, 2017 at 3:32 am GMT \n
100 Words @Si1ver1ock When you see something obviously wrong and the media won't cover it, you start to wonder what else they are lying about.

Rudy Dent is a true hero.

I support a real forensic/criminal investigation of 911. Well said. Unfortunately a real investigation will never occur. As you alluded to, the media is controlled. Controlled by the same cabal that's printing monopoly money and running our finance system, foreign affairs and government. The same evil chemtrailing our skies everyday, pushing vaccines and re-writing history.

Rudy Dent gets it and is a hero for speaking out. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Rob Green , April 11, 2017 at 9:57 am GMT \n
Rudy Dent is a disgraced FDNY ex-fireman who is shunned and hated by his former colleagues for desecrating the memory of those fallen on 9/11. He should rot in hell for the fabrications he is spewing about the deaths of his former brothers. Read More
daniel le mouche , April 11, 2017 at 11:13 am GMT \n
@daniel le mouche Haven't read the article yet, but love the woman's sign in the picture--'Our oppression is NOT up for debate'.
And boy does she look oppressed, along with her co-religionists/racists on the top of every profession that manipulates everyone else--hollywood, network tv, radio, newspapers, magazines, the music industry, universities, government, banks.
Nice try, prick. (Not that a single Unz reader was fooled.) my comment 42 was in response to 'sherm's' link to a daily beast 'article' titled 'jew-hater christopher bollyn etc.' which i'm sure conclusively debunks rudy dent just as 'sherm' says. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
daniel le mouche , April 11, 2017 at 11:43 am GMT \n
100 Words @Amanda Article mentioned Rothschilds instigating, orchestrating, and profiting from WW2 and I also wanted to add what loyal American Jew, Benjamin Freedman had to say about WW1 and WW2 (he ought to know b/c he was the right hand man of Bernard Baruch, Rothschild front-man, basically the Soros of yesterday.

Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel (Complete)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFRGDyX48c

Benjamin H. Freedman's excellent speech on how World War One (and Two) really started and why the U.S. was eventually drawn in. I am only 7 minutes into the video link you provide to Benjamin Freedman's WWI speech, but it has already turned anything I might have thought I knew about that war (admittedly very little) on its head. Thank you for just beginning to shine some light on the (likely) truth! It is just the tip of the iceberg, but people are starting to put the pieces together to who's behind our horrific modern dystopia. A century of most costly slumber by European and American masses. One's rage wells up
(What heartbreaking old footage of maimed soldiers, and to think of all the carnage ever since, ever ongoing.) Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Timur The Lame , April 11, 2017 at 12:09 pm GMT \n
400 Words @ Bill Jones,

Good summary. Added to which was the air defense stand down ( subsequently revealed to be anti- terror exercises) which was the situation that immediatley set bells off for me before all the other facts came in. I had an amateur interest in military aircraft and defense procedures and thought wtf?

While most people, myself included, were in a state of shock during the first day, they already were filling the airwaves with stories about how the terrorists "turned the transponders off" and therefore the huge passenger jets were supposedly invisible.

Think about this for a second. This technologically irrelevant lie was already in the news feed and worked its magic with the hoi polloi. I went to get a haircut that day in a sleepy town and of course there was only one topic discussed while the TV was on in the waiting area. One soccer mom responded to my more skeptical commentary on how the attack could be possible by putting her hands on her hips, school marm' like and yelling "they turned off the transopnders [stupid implied]!" I responded by asking would Chinese or Russian bombers have transponders beeping away in some sort of a fair play gesture when attacking? In other words would the multi-trillion dollar east coast defense structure not have thought of this? Daggers.

Most importantly when discussing 911 now with a Koolaider, bringing up WTC7, which used to be a knockout punch is not as effective because the odd one who prefers the Popular Mechanics dialogue will come back with the debris and diesel crap. The most effective knockout punch now I find is bringing up the immediate anthrax mailings. Most will have either forgotten about it or not known of it in the first place. Play with it. Ask how in the world the Disco Dervishes got their hands on military grade anthrax that was traced back to a US laboratory etc

None are so blind as they who WILL not see and that unfortunately is always the vast majority who cannot allow for their mental structure and the world as they understand it to be blasted into fragments. JFK and 911 will be but two major contemporary events that will not be solved in our lifetimes.

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dninmore , April 11, 2017 at 12:57 pm GMT \n
@Rob Green Rudy Dent is a disgraced FDNY ex-fireman who is shunned and hated by his former colleagues for desecrating the memory of those fallen on 9/11. He should rot in hell for the fabrications he is spewing about the deaths of his former brothers. I think Rudy's a wonderful human being and enjoyed getting to meet and talk with him in Detroit. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
anarchyst , April 11, 2017 at 2:03 pm GMT \n
200 Words @animalogic I understand that. I am open minded. But, I have been lead to believe that the shooting of Jew's was a considerable % of the 6 MIL. Further, the "camps" we're a response to the expense & general messiness of mass shooting. Let's see the "camps" had libraries, theaters, medical facilities, dining, and other facilities for the "comforts" of the occupants. Doctors, dentists were also available to see to the inmates' medical needs. In fact, many times specialists were brought in for unusual, difficult medical cases. There were also strict rules for the guards that severely punished any misbehavior against the inmates.
If these camps were "killing facilities", why all the amenities?
In addition, the logistics of transferring people from camp to camp had to be enormous.
Germany did not have the fuel to waste on transferring inmates from facility to facility, the idea that the "camps" were "killing facilities" is preposterous. What holocaust ™ promoters never show is the interviews of the (honest) camp occupants who report that there were no "gas chambers" and that they were treated well. These interviews, although available, are never shown. Why?
The truth is, most people survived the camps, and went on to live the rest of their long lives without incident. It is only in the 1960s where "the powers that be" CREATED the holocaust ™ as a "cash cow" that "keeps on giving" to this very day. Read More
republic , April 11, 2017 at 6:08 pm GMT \n
11,600 Words @Amanda Article mentioned Rothschilds instigating, orchestrating, and profiting from WW2 and I also wanted to add what loyal American Jew, Benjamin Freedman had to say about WW1 and WW2 (he ought to know b/c he was the right hand man of Bernard Baruch, Rothschild front-man, basically the Soros of yesterday.

Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel (Complete)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFRGDyX48c

Benjamin H. Freedman's excellent speech on how World War One (and Two) really started and why the U.S. was eventually drawn in. A Jewish Defector Warns America:

Benjamin Freedman Speaks on Zionism

This should do it! For the second and last time we are updating the transcript of Ben Freedman's 1961 speech at the Willard Hotel.

The piece has been posted for over a year now. A few months ago, a person challenged the authenticity of the transcript, because his version stated that Samuel Untermeyer had used the Columbia Broadcasting studios when he declared a worldwide boycott against Germany - in his words: 'A Holy War'. We could not debate the issue, having never heard the actual recording of Mr. Freedman's speech. Today, I discovered that we have a cassette tape of the speech, so I listened to the entire tape while reading the posted transcript. According to Mr. Freedman the radio station used by Untermeyer was, in fact, ABC.

There had also been some simple rearrangements of sentence structure in that transcript, and a line or two omitted in places. For the sake of authenticity, the corrections have been made. The transcript is now word for word from Mr. Freedman's speech.

The original transcriber had 'tidied up' Mr. Freedman's responses during the Q&A period, omitting superfluous and repetitious words. For the most part, we've left the tidied up version as it was, since it didn't change the response, and actually helped to clarify Mr. Freedman's answers. If the names were changed, he could have been making that speech yesterday. - Jackie - April 8, 2003

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Here is our first update notice, about a year ago:

The original posting of this speech was taken from an existing web site. In going through our files we recently discovered a full transcript of the speech and realized the original posting was not complete. Here is the transcript from our files, with additional text at the beginning – some within the body of the speech – and a question and answer section at the end that had not been included in the original posting. There will be further postings from other writers and quotes that will confirm much of what Mr. Freedman said here. Many of you will see the truth of it, as it stands. - Jackie –

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The Truth will stand on its own merit

A Jewish Defector Warns America:

Benjamin Freedman Speaks

by Benjamin H. Freedman

Introductory Note - Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20th century.

Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States.

Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times.

This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential message to us - his warning to the West - is more urgent than ever before. - K.A.S. -

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A CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE HOLOCAUST

Ladies and gentlemen, you are about to hear a very frightening speech. This speech is an explanation of the plans now being laid to throw the United States into a third world war. It was made a short time ago before a large group in the Congressional `Room of the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C. Both the speech and the question and answer period later so electrified the audience that a group of patriots has transferred it to two long-playing records which you may buy to play for friends, clubs, and your church group in your community. The speaker is Mr. Benjamin Freedman, noted authority on Zionism and all of its schemes. Mr. Freedman is a former Jew, and I mean a FORMER Jew. He has fought the Communist world conspiracy tooth and nail, and stands today as a leading American patriot. We now take you to the speaker's platform to present Benjamin Freedman.

(applause)

[Freedman's speech]

What I intend to tell you tonight is something that you have never been able to learn from any other source, and what I tell you now concerns not only you, but your children and the survival of this country and Christianity. I'm not here just to dish up a few facts to send up your blood pressure, but I'm here to tell you things that will help you preserve what you consider the most sacred things in the world: the liberty, and the freedom, and the right to live as Christians, where you have a little dignity, and a little right to pursue the things that your conscience tells you are the right things, as Christians.

Now, first of all, I'd like to tell you that on August 25th 1960 - that was shortly before elections - Senator Kennedy, who is now the President of the United States, went to New York, and delivered an address to the Zionist Organization of America. In that address, to reduce it to its briefest form, he stated that he would use the armed forces of the United States to preserve the existence of the regime set up in Palestine by the Zionists who are now in occupation of that area.

In other words, Christian boys are going to be yanked out of their homes, away from their families, and sent abroad to fight in Palestine against the Christian and Moslem Arabs who merely want to return to their homes. And these Christian boys are going to be asked to shoot to kill these innocent [Arab Palestinians] people who only want to follow out fifteen resolutions passed by the United Nations in the last twelve years calling upon the Zionists to allow these people to return to their homes.

Now, when United States troops appear in the Middle East to fight with the Zionists as their allies to prevent the return of these people who were evicted from their homes in the 1948 armed insurrection by the Zionists who were transplanted there from Eastern Europe when that happens, the United States will trigger World War III.

You say, when will that take place? The answer is, as soon as the difficulty between France and Algeria has been settled, that will take place. As soon as France and Algeria have been settled, that will take place. As soon as France and Algeria have settled their difficulty, and the Arab world, or the Moslem world, has no more war on their hands with France, they are going to move these people back into their homes, and when they do that and President kennedy sends your sons to fight over there to help the crooks hold on to what they stole from innocent men, women and children, we will trigger World War III; and when that starts you can be sure we cannot emerge from that war a victor. We are going to lose that war because there is not one nation in the world that will let one of their sons fight with us for such a cause.

I know and speak to these ambassadors in Washington and the United Nations - and of the ninety-nine nations there, I've consulted with maybe seventy of them - and when we go to war in Palestine to help the thieves retain possession of what they have stolen from these innocent people we're not going to have a man there to fight with us as our ally.

And who will these people have supporting them, you ask. Well, four days after President Kennedy - or he was then Senator Kennedy - made that statement on August 28, 1960, the Arab nations called a meeting in Lebanon and there they decided to resurrect, or reactivate, the government of Palestine, which has been dormant more or less, since the 1948 armed insurrection by the Zionists.

Not only that they ordered the creation of the Palestine Army, and they are now drilling maybe a half a million soldiers in that area of the world to lead these people back to their homeland. With them, they have as their allies all the nations of what is termed the Bandung Conference Group. That includes the Soviet Union and every Soviet Union satellite. It includes Red China; it includes every independent country in Asia and Africa; or eighty percent of the world's total population. Eighty percent of the world's population. Four out of five human beings on the face of the earth will be our enemies at war with us. And not alone are they four out of five human beings now on the face of this earth, but they are the non-Christian population of the world and they are the non-Caucasians the non-white nations of the world, and that's what we face.

And what is the reason? The reason is that here in the United States, the Zionists and their co-religionists have complete control of our government. For many reasons too many and too complex to go into here at this - time I'll be glad to answer questions, however, to support that statement - the Zionists and their co-religionists rule this United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country.

Now, you say, 'well, that's a very broad statement to make', but let me show what happened while you were - I don't want to wear that out - let me show what happened while WE were all asleep. I'm including myself with you. We were all asleep. What happened?

World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. Nineteen-hundred and fourteen was the year in which World War One broke out. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey. What happened?

Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean, and Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, stood there with one week's food supply facing her - and after that, starvation.

At that time, the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. They were picking up their toys and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed.

Now Germany - not a shot had been fired on the German soil. Not an enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: "Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started."

Well, England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that. Seriously! They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated.

While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and - I am going to be brief because this is a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make if anyone here is curious, or doesn't believe what I'm saying is at all possible - the Zionists in London went to the British war cabinet and they said: "Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally."

The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They [Zionists] told England: "We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war."

In other words, they made this deal: "We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay us is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey."

Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely absurd that Great Britain - that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine - should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war.

However, they made that promise, in October of 1916. October, nineteen hundred and sixteen. And shortly after that - I don't know how many here remember it - the United States, which was almost totally pro-German - totally pro-German - because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews, and they were pro-German because their people, in the majority of cases came from Germany, and they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar.

The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. So the German bankers - the German-Jews - Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: "As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!" But they poured money into Germany, they fought with Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime.

Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, they went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like the traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. And they were no good.

Well, shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany.

The Zionists in London sent these cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis: "Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work, and you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war." And that did happen. That's how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room.

Now the war - World War One - in which the United States participated had absolutely no reason to be our war. We went in there - we were railroaded into it - if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into - that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. Now, that is something that the people in the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War One. Now, what happened?

After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: "Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war." Because they didn't know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, and it was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration.

The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. And I don't think I could make it more emphatic than that.

Now, that is where all the trouble started. The United States went in the war. The United States crushed Germany. We went in there, and it's history. You know what happened. Now, when the war was ended, and the Germans went to Paris, to the Paris Peace Conference in 1919, there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know. Now what happened?

The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all these nations that claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, the Jews said, "How about Palestine for us?" And they produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour Declaration. So the Germans, for the first time realized, "Oh, that was the game! That's why the United States came into the war." And the Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered this terrific reparation that was slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and they were determined to get it at any cost.

Now, that brings us to another very interesting point. When the Germans realized this, they naturally resented it. Up to that time, the Jews had never been better off in any country in the world than they had been in Germany.

You had Mr. Rathenau there, who was maybe 100 times as important in industry and finance as is Bernard Baruch in this country. You had Mr. Balin, who owned the two big steamship lines, the North German Lloyd's and the Hamburg-American Lines. You had Mr. Bleichroder, who was the banker for the Hohenzollern family. You had the Warburgs in Hamburg, who were the big merchant bankers - the biggest in the world. The Jews were doing very well in Germany. No question about that. Now, the Germans felt: "Well, that was quite a sellout."

It was a sellout that I can best compare - suppose the United States was at war today with the Soviet Union. And we were winning. And we told the Soviet Union: "Well, let's quit. We offer you peace terms. Let's forget the whole thing." And all of a sudden Red China came into the war as an ally of the Soviet Union. And throwing them into the war brought about our defeat. A crushing defeat, with reparations the likes of which man's imagination cannot encompass.

Imagine, then, after that defeat, if we found out that it was the Chinese in this country, our Chinese citizens, who all the time we thought they were loyal citizens working with us, were selling us out to the Soviet Union and that it was through them that Red China was brought into the war against us. How would we feel, in the United States against Chinese? I don't think that one of them would dare show his face on any street. There wouldn't be lampposts enough, convenient, to take care of them. Imagine how we would feel.

Well, that's how the Germans felt towards these Jews. "We've been so nice to them"; and from 1905 on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia failed, and the Jews had to scramble out of Russia, they all went to Germany. And Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And here they sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than they wanted Palestine as a so-called "Jewish commonwealth."

Now, Nahum Sokolow - all the great leaders, the big names that you read about in connection with Zionism today - they, in 1919, 1920, '21, '22, and '23, they wrote in all their papers - and the press was filled with their statements - that "the feeling against the Jews in Germany is due to the fact that they realized that this great defeat was brought about by our intercession and bringing the United States into the war against them."

The Jews themselves admitted that. It wasn't that the Germans in 1919 discovered that a glass of Jewish blood tasted better than Coca-Cola or Muenschner Beer. There was no religious feeling. There was no sentiment against those people merely on account of their religious belief. It was all political. It was economic. It was anything but religious.

Nobody cared in Germany whether a Jew went home and pulled down the shades and said "Shema' Yisrael" or "Our Father." No one cared in Germany any more than they do in the United States. Now this feeling that developed later in Germany was due to one thing: that the Germans held the Jews responsible for their crushing defeat, for no reason at all, because World War One was started against Germany for no reason for which they [Germans] were responsible. They were guilty of nothing. Only of being successful. They built up a big navy. They built up world trade.

You must remember, Germany, at the time of Napoleon, at the time of the French Revolution, what was the German Reich consisted of 300 - three hundred! - small city-states, principalities, dukedoms, and so forth. Three hundred little separate political entities. And between that time, between the period of. . . between Napoleon and Bismarck, they were consolidated into one state. And within 50 years after that time they became one of the world's great powers. Their navy was rivalling Great Britain's, they were doing business all over the world, they could undersell anybody and make better products. And what happened? What happened as a result of that?

There was a conspiracy between England, France, and Russia that: "We must slap down Germany", because there isn't one historian in the world that can find a valid reason why those three countries decided to wipe Germany off the map politically. Now, what happened after that?

When Germany realized that the Jews were responsible for her defeat, they naturally resented it. But not a hair on the head of any Jew was harmed. Not a single hair. Professor Tansill, of Georgetown University, who had access to all the secret papers of the State Department, wrote in his book, and quoted from a State Department document written by Hugo Schoenfelt, a Jew who Cordell Hull sent to Europe in 1933 to investigate the so-called camps of political prisoners. And he wrote back that he found them in very fine condition.

They were in excellent shape; everybody treated well. And they were filled with Communists. Well, a lot of them were Jews, because the Jews happened to be maybe 98 per cent of the Communists in Europe at that time. And there were some priests there, and ministers, and labor leaders, Masons, and others who had international affiliations.

Now, the Jews sort of tried to keep the lid on this fact. They didn't want the world to really understand that they had sold out Germany, and that the Germans resented that.

So they did take appropriate action against them [against the Jews]. They. . . shall I say, discriminated against them wherever they could? They shunned them. The same as we would the Chinese, or the Negroes, or the Catholics, or anyone in this country who had sold us out to an enemy and brought about our defeat.

Now, after a while, the Jews of the world didn't know what to do, so they called a meeting in Amsterdam. Jews from every country in the world attended in July 1933. And they said to Germany: "You fire Hitler! And you put every Jew back into his former position, whether he was a Communist, no matter what he was. You can't treat us that way! And we, the Jews of the world, are calling upon you, and serving this ultimatum upon you." Well, the Germans told them. . . you can imagine. So what did they [the Jews] do?

They broke up, and Samuel Untermyer, if the name means anything to people here. . . (You want to ask a question? - Uh, there were no Communists in Germany at that time. they were called 'Social Democrats.)

Well, I don't want to go by what they were called. We're now using English words, and what they were called in Germany is not very material. . . but they were Communists, because in 1917, the Communists took over Germany for a few days. Rosa Luxembourg and Karl Liebknecht, and a group of Jews in Germany took over the government for three days. In fact, when the Kaiser ended the war, he fled to Holland because he thought the Communists were going to take over Germany as they did Russia, and that he was going to meet the same fate that the Czar did in Russia. So he left and went to Holland for safety and for security.

Now, at that time, when the Communist threat in Germany was quashed, it was quiet, the Jews were working, still trying to get back into their former - their status - and the Germans fought them in every way they could, without hurting a hair on anyone's head. The same as one group, the Prohibitionists, fought the people who were interested in liquor, and they didn't fight one another with pistols, they did it every way they could.

Well, that's the way they were fighting the Jews in Germany. And, at that time, mind you, there were 80 to 90 million Germans and there were only 460,000 Jews. . . less than one half of one percent of Germany were Jews. And yet, they controlled all of the press, they controlled most of the economy, because they had come in and with cheap money - you know the way the Mark was devalued - they bought up practically everything.

Well, in 1933 when Germany refused to surrender, mind you, to the World Conference of Jews in Amsterdam, they broke up and Mr. Untermeyer came back to the United States - who was the head of the American delegation and the president of the whole conference - and he went from the steamer to ABC and made a radio broadcast throughout the United States in which he said:

"The Jews of the world now declare a Holy War against Germany. We are now engaged in a sacred conflict against the Germans. And we are going to starve them into surrender. We are going to use a world-wide boycott against them, that will destroy them because they are dependent upon their export business."

And it is a fact that two thirds of Germany's food supply had to be imported, and it could only be imported with the proceeds of what they exported. Their labor. So if Germany could not export, two thirds of Germany's population would have to starve. There just was not enough food for more than one third of the population.

Now in this declaration, which I have here, it was printed on page - a whole page - in the New York Times on August 7, 1933, Mr. Samuel Untermyer boldly stated that: "this economic boycott is our means of self-defense. President Roosevelt has advocated its use in the NRA" . [National Recovery Administration] - which some of you may remember, where everybody was to be boycotted unless they followed the rules laid down by the New Deal, which of course was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court at that time.

Nevertheless, the Jews of the world declared a boycott against Germany, and it was so effective that you couldn't find one thing in any store anywhere in the world with the words "made in Germany" on it.

In fact, an executive of the Woolworth Company told me that they had to dump millions of dollars worth of crockery and dishes into the river; that their stores were boycotted. If anyone came in and found a dish marked "made in Germany," they were picketed with signs: "Hitler", "murderer", and so forth, and like - something like these sit-ins that are taking place in the South.

R. H. Macy, which is controlled by a family called Strauss who also happen to be Jews. . . a woman found stockings there which came from Chemnitz, marked "made in Germany". Well, they were cotton stockings. They may have been there 20 years, because since I've been observing women's legs in the last twenty years, I haven't seen a pair with cotton stockings on them. So Macy! I saw Macy boycotted, with hundreds of people walking around with signs saying "MURDERS" and "HITLERITES", and so forth.

Now up to that time, not one hair on the head of any Jew had been hurt in Germany. There was no suffering, there was no starvation, there was no murder, there was nothing.

Now, that. . . naturally, the Germans said, "Why, who are these people to declare a boycott against us and throw all our people out of work, and our industries come to a standstill? Who are they to do that to us?" They naturally resented it. Certainly they painted swastikas on stores owned by Jews.

Why should a German go in and give their money to a storekeeper who was part of a boycott who was going to starve Germany into surrender into the Jews of the world, who were going to dictate who their premier or chancellor was to be? Well, it was ridiculous.

That continued for some time, and it wasn't until 1938, when a young Jew from Poland walked into the German embassy in Paris and shot one of the officials [a German official] that the Germans really started to get rough with the Jews in Germany. And you found them then breaking windows and having street fights and so forth.

Now, for anyone to say that - I don't like to use the word 'anti-Semitism' because it's meaningless, but it means something to you still, so I'll have to use it - the only reason that there was any feeling in Germany against Jews was that they were responsible: number one, for World War One; number two, for this world-wide boycott, and number three - did I say for World War One, they were responsible? For the boycott - and also for World War II, because after this thing got out of hand, it was absolutely necessary for the Jews and Germany to lock horns in a war to see which one was going to survive.

In the meanwhile, I had lived in Germany, and I knew that the Germans had decided [that] Europe is going to be Christian or Communist: there is no in between. It's going to be Christian or it's going to be Communist. And the Germans decided: "We're going to keep it Christian if possible". And they started to re-arm.

And there intention was - by that time the United States had recognized the Soviet Union, which they did in November, 1933 - the Soviet Union was becoming very powerful, and Germany realized: "Well, our turn is going to come soon, unless we are strong." The same as we in this country are saying today, "Our turn is going to come soon, unless we are strong."

And our government is spending 83 or 84 billion dollars of your money for defense, they say. Defense against whom? Defense against 40,000 little Jews in Moscow that took over Russia, and then, in their devious ways, took over control of many other governments of the world.

Now, for this country to now be on the verge of a Third World War, from which we cannot emerge a victor, is something that staggers my imagination. I know that nuclear bombs are measured in terms of megatons. A megaton is a term used to describe one million tons of TNT. One million tons of TNT is a megaton. Now, our nuclear bombs have a capacity of 10 megatons, or 10 million tons of TNT. That was when they were first developed five or six years ago. Now, the nuclear bombs that are being developed have a capacity of 200 megatons, and God knows how many megatons the nuclear bombs of the Soviet Union have.

So, what do we face now? If we trigger a world war that may develop into a nuclear war, humanity is finished. And why will it take place? It will take place because Act III. . . the curtain goes up on Act III. Act I was World War I. Act II was World War II. Act III is going to be World War III.

The Jews of the world, the Zionists and their co-religionists everywhere, are determined that they are going to again use the United States to help them permanently retain Palestine as their foothold for their world government. Now, that is just as true as I am standing here, because not alone have I read it, but many here have read it, and it's known all over the world.

Now, what are we going to do? The life you save may be your son's. Your boys may be on their way to that war tonight; and you you don't know it any more than you knew that in 1916 in London the Zionists made a deal with the British War Cabinet to send your sons to war in Europe. Did you know it at that time? Not a person in the United States knew it. You weren't permitted to know it.

Who knew it? President Wilson knew it. Colonel House knew it. Other 's knew it. Did I know it? I had a pretty good idea of what was going on: I was liaison to Henry Morgenthau, Sr., in the 1912 campaign when President Wilson was elected, and there was talk around the office there.

I was 'confidential man' to Henry Morgenthau, Sr., who was chairman of the Finance Committee, and I was liaison between him and Rollo Wells, the treasurer. So I sat in these meetings with President Wilson at the head of the table, and all the others, and I heard them drum into President Wilson's brain the graduated income tax and what has become the Federal Reserve, and also indoctrinate him with the Zionist movement.

Justice Brandeis and President Wilson were just as close as the two fingers on this hand, and President Woodrow Wilson was just as incompetent when it came to determining what was going on as a newborn baby. And that's how they got us into World War I, while we all slept.

Now, at this moment at this moment they may be planning this World War III, in which we don't stand a chance even if they don't use nuclear bombs. How can the United States - about five percent of the world - go out and fight eighty to ninety percent of the world on their home ground? How can we do it send our boys over there to be slaughtered? For what? So the Jews can have Palestine as their 'commonwealth'? They've fooled you so much that you don't know whether you're coming or going.

Now any judge, when he charges a jury, says, "Gentlemen, any witness that you find has told a single lie, you can disregard all his testimony." That is correct. I don't know from what state you come, but in New York state that is the way a judge addresses a jury. If that witness said one lie, disregard his testimony.

Now, what are the facts about the Jews?

The Jews - I call them Jews to you, because they are known as Jews. I don't call them Jews. I refer to them as so-called Jews, because I know what they are. If Jesus was a Jew, there isn't a Jew in the world today, and if those people are Jews, certainly our Lord and Savior was not one of them, and I can prove that.

Now what happened? The eastern European Jews, who form 92 per cent of the world's population of those people who call themselves Jews, were originally Khazars.

They were a warlike tribe that lived deep in the heart of Asia. And they were so warlike that even the Asiatics drove them out of Asia into eastern Europe - and to reduce this so you don't get too confused about the history of Eastern Europe - they set up this big Khazar kingdom: 800,000 square miles. Only, there was no Russia, there were no other countries, and the Khazar kingdom was the biggest country in all Europe - so big and so powerful that when the other monarchs wanted to go to war, the Khazars would lend them 40,000 soldiers. That's how big and powerful they were.

Now, they were phallic worshippers, which is filthy. I don't want to go into the details of that now. It was their religion the way it was the religion of many other Pagans or Barbarians elsewhere in the world.

Now, the [Khazar] king became so disgusted with the degeneracy of his kingdom that he decided to adopt a so-called monotheistic faith - either Christianity, Islam - the Moslem faith - or what is known today as Judaism - really Talmudism. So, like spinning a top and calling out "eeny, meeny, miney, moe," he picked out so-called Judaism. And that became the state religion.

He sent down to the Talmudic schools of Pumbedita and Sura and brought up thousands of these rabbis with their teachings, and opened up synagogues and schools in his kingdom of 800,000 people - 800,000 thousand square miles - and maybe ten to twenty million people; and they became what we call Jews. There wasn't one of them that had an ancestor that ever put a toe in the Holy Land, not only in Old Testament history, but back to the beginning of time. Not one of them! And yet they come to the Christians and they ask us to support their armed insurrection in Palestine by saying:

"Well, you want to certainly help repatriate God's chosen people to their Promised Land, their ancestral homeland, It's your Christian duty. We gave you one of our boys as your Lord and Savior. You now go to church on Sunday, and kneel and you worship a Jew, and we're Jews."

Well, they were pagan Khazars who were converted just the same as the Irish [were converted]. And it's just as ridiculous to call them "people of the Holy Land," as it would be. . . there are 54 million Chinese Moslems. Fifty four million! And, Mohammed only died in 620 A.D., so in that time, 54 million Chinese have accepted Islam as their religious belief.

Now imagine, in China, 2,000 miles away from Arabia, where the city of Mecca is located, where Mohammed was born. . . imagine if the 54 million Chinese called themselves 'Arabs'. Imagine! Why, you'd say they're lunatics. Anyone who believes that those 54 million Chinese are Arabs must be crazy. All they did was adopt as a religious faith; a belief that had its origin in Mecca, in Arabia.

The same as the Irish. When the Irish became Christians, nobody dumped them in the ocean and imported from the Holy Land a new crop of inhabitants that were Christians. They weren't different people. They were the same people, but they had accepted Christianity as a religious faith.

Now, these Pagans, these Asiatics, these Turko-Finns. . . they were a Mongoloid race who were forced out of Asia into eastern Europe. They likewise, because their king took the faith - Talmudic faith - they had no choice. Just the same as in Spain: If the king was Catholic, everybody had to be a Catholic. If not, you had to get out of Spain. So everybody - they lived on the land just like the trees and the bushes; a human being belonged to the land under their feudal system - so they [Khazars] all became what we call today, Jews!

Now imagine how silly it was for the Christians. . . for the great Christian countries of the world to say, "We're going to use our power, our prestige to repatriate God's chosen people to their ancestral homeland, their Promised Land."

Now, could there be a bigger lie than that? Could there be a bigger lie than that?

And because they control the newspapers, the magazines, the radio, the television, the book publishing business, they have the ministers in the pulpit, they have the politicians on the soap boxes talking the same language . . . so naturally you'd believe black is white if you heard it often enough. You wouldn't call black black anymore - you'd start to call black white. And nobody could blame you.

Now, that is one of the great lies. . . that is the foundation of all the misery that has befallen the world. Because after two wars fought in Europe - World War I and World War II - if it wasn't possible for them to live in peace and harmony with the people in Europe, like their brethren are living in the United States, what were the two wars fought for? Did they have to - like you flush the toilet - because they couldn't get along, did they have to say, "Well, we're going back to our homeland and you Christians can help us"?

I can't understand yet how the Christians in Europe could have been that dumb because every theologian, every history teacher, knew the things that I'm telling you. But, they naturally bribed them, shut them up with money, stuffed their mouths with money, and now. . . I don't care whether you know all this or not. It doesn't make any difference to me whether you know all these facts or not, but it does make a difference to me. I've got, in my family, boys that will have to be in the next war, and I don't want them to go and fight and die like they died in Korea. Like they died in Japan. Like they've died all over the world. For what?

To help crooks hold on to what they stole from innocent people who had been in peaceful possession of that land, those farms, those homes for hundreds and maybe thousands of years? Is that why the United States must go to war? Because the Democratic Party wants New York State - the electoral vote? Illinois, the electoral vote? And Pennsylvania, the electoral vote? which are controlled by the Zionists and their co-religionists?. . . the balance of power?

In New York City there are 400,000 members of the liberal party, all Zionists and their co-religionists. And New York State went for Kennedy by 400,000 votes. Now, I don't blame Mr. Kennedy. I'm fond of Mr. Kennedy. I think he's a great man. I think he can really pull us out of this trouble if we get the facts to him. And I believe he knows a great deal more than his appointments indicate he knows. He's playing with the enemy. Like when you go fishing, you've got to play with the fish. Let 'em out and pull 'em in. Let 'em out and pull 'em in. But knowing Mr. Kennedy's father, and how well informed he is on this whole subject, and how close Kennedy is to his father, I don't think Mr. Kennedy is totally in the dark.

But I do think that it is the duty of every mother, every loyal Christian , every person that regards the defense of this country as a sacred right, that they communicate - not with their congressman, not with their senator, but with President Kennedy. And tell him, "I do not think you should send my boy, or our boys, wearing the uniform of the United States of America, and under the flag that you see here, our red, white and blue, to fight there to help keep in the hands of these that which they have stolen". I think everyone should not alone write once, but keep writing and get your friends to write.

Now, I could go on endlessly, and tell you these things to support what I have just asked you to do. But I don't think it's necessary to do that. You're above the average group in intelligence and I don't think it's necessary to impress this any more.

But. . . I want to tell you one more thing. You talk about "Oh, the Jews. Why the Jews? Christianity. Why, we got Christianity from the Jews and the Jews gave us Jesus, and the Jews gave us our religion". But do you know that on the day of atonement that you think is so sacred to them, that on that day and I was one of them! This is not hearsay. I'm not here to be a rabble-rouser. I'm here to give you facts.

When, on the Day of Atonement, you walk into a synagogue, the very first prayer that you recite, you stand - and it's the only prayer for which you stand - and you repeat three times a short prayer. The Kol Nidre. In that prayer, you enter into an agreement with God Almighty that any oath, vow, or pledge that you may make during the next twelve months - any oath, vow or pledge that you may take during the next twelve months shall be null and void.

The oath shall not be an oath; the vow shall not be a vow; the pledge shall not be a pledge. They shall have no force and effect, and so forth and so on.

And further than that, the Talmud teaches: "Don't forget - whenever you take an oath, vow, and pledge - remember the Kol Nidre prayer that you recited on the Day of Atonement, and that exempts you from fulfilling that".

How much can you depend on their loyalty? You can depend upon their loyalty as much as the Germans depended upon it in 1916.

And we're going to suffer the same fate as Germany suffered, and for the same reason. You can't depend upon something as insecure as the leadership that is not obliged to respect an oath, vow or pledge. Now I could go on and recite many other things to you, but I would have a little respect for your time, and you want to really, uh, get through with all of this. Tomorrow's going to be a long day.

Now I want to say one thing. You ask me. . . well, you think to yourself: "well how did this fellow get mixed up in this the way he got mixed up in it." Well, I opened my mouth in 1945, and I took big pages in newspapers and tried to tell the American people what I'm telling you. And one newspaper after another refused the advertisement. And when I couldn't find a newspaper to take them - I paid cash, not credit - what happened? My lawyer told me, "There's an editor over in Jersey with a paper who will take your announcement". So, I was brought together with Mr. McGinley, and that's how I met him.

So somebody told me the lawyer who introduced me, who was the son of the Dean of the Methodist Bishop, he said: "Well, I think he's a little anti-Semitic. I don't know whether I can get him over here. So he brought him over to my apartment and we hit it off wonderfully, and have since then.

Now, I say this, and I say it without any qualifications. I say it without any reservations. And I say it without any hesitation. . . if it wasn't for the work that Mr. Conley McGinley did with "Common Sense" - he's been sending out from 1,800,000 to 2,000,000 every year - if it wasn't for the work he's been doing sending those out for fifteen years now, we would already be a communist country. Nobody has done what he did to light fires. Many of the other active persons in this fight learned all about if for the first time through "Common Sense".

Now, I have been very active in helping him all I could. I'm not as flush as I was. I cannot go on spending the money. . . I'm not going to take up a collection. Don't worry. I see five people getting up to leave. (laughter)

I haven't got the money that I used to spend. I used to print a quarter of a million of them out of my own pocket and send them out. Mr. McGinley, when I first met him, had maybe 5,000 printed and circulated them locally. So I said, "With what you know and what I know, we can really do a good job". So I started printing in outside shops of big newspaper companies, a quarter of a million, and paid for them. Well, there's always a bottom to the barrel. I suppose we've all reached that at times.

I'm not so poor that I can't live without working and that's what worries the Anti-Defamation League. I can just get by without going and asking for a job or getting on the bread line. But Mr. McGinley is working. He's sick and he's going at this stronger than ever. And all I want to say is that they want to close up "Common Sense" more than any other single thing in the whole world, as a death-blow to the fight Christians are making to survive.

So I just want to tell you this. All they do is circulate rumors: "Mr. Benjamin H. Freedman is the wealthy backer of 'Common Sense'." The reason they do that is to discourage the people in the United States: don't send any money to Common Sense. They don't need it. The've got the wealthy Mr. Freedman as a backer. That all has strategy. They don't want to advertise me so that people that have real estate or securities to sell will come and call on me. They just want people to lay off "Common Sense". And all I'm telling you is, I do try to help him, but I haven't been able to. And I will be very honest. One thing I won't do is lie. In the last year I've had so much sickness in my family that I could not give him one dollar.

How he's managed to survive, I don't know. God alone knows. And he must be in God's care because how he's pulled through his sickness and with his financial troubles, I don't know. But that press is working. . . and every two weeks about a hundred or a hundred-fifty-thousand of "Common Sense" go out with a new message. And if that information could be multiplied. . . if people that now get it could buy ten or twenty five, or fifty, give them around. Plow that field. Sow those seeds, you don't know which will take root, but for God's sake, this is our last chance.

[Freedman then discusses the importance of people forgoing unnecessary purchases to 'buy more stuff', play golf, etc., and use the money to keep "Common Sense" going. He explains that the paper is going in debt; could be closed down and he (Freedman) no longer has the funds, having spent some $2,400,000 in his attempt to bring the information to the American public and elected officials. He then asks for questions from the audience.)

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{Question inaudible]

Freedman: All right, I'll comment on that. This is rather deep, but you all have a very high degree of intelligence, so I'm going to make an attempt. In the time of Bible history, there was a geographic area known as Judea. Judea was a province of the Roman Empire. Now, a person who lived in Judea was known as a Judean, and in Latin it was Judaeus; in Greek it was Judaius. Those are the two words, in Greek and Latin, for a Judean.

Now, in Latin and Greek there is no such letter as 'j', and the first syllable of Judaeus and Judaius starts 'ghu'. Now, when the Bible was written, it was first written in Greek, Latin, Panantic, Syriac, Aramaic all those languages. Never Was the word Jew in any of them because the word didn't exist. Judea was the country, and the people were Judeans, and Jesus was referred to only as a Judean. I've seen those early the earliest scripts available.

In 1345, a man by the name of Wycliffe in England thought that it was time to translate the Bible into English. There was no English edition of the Bible because who the Devil could read? It was only the educated church people who could read Latin and Greek, Syriac, Aramaic and the other languages. Anyhow, Wycliffe translated the Bible into English. But in it, he had to look around for some words for Judaeas and Judaius.

There was no English word because Judea had passed out of existence. There was no Judea. People had long ago forgotten that. So in the first translation he used the word, in referring to Jesus, as 'gyu', "jew". At the time, there was no printing press.

Then, between 1345 and the 17th century, when the press came into use, that word passed through so many changes I have them all here. If you want I can read them to you. I will. That word 'gyu' which was in the Wycliffe Bible became. . . first it was ' gyu ', then ' giu ', then ' iu ' (because the ' i ' in Latin is pronounced like the ' j '. Julius Caesar is ' Iul ' because there is no 'j' in Latin) then ' iuw ', then ' ieuu ', then ' ieuy ', then ' iwe ', then ' iow ', then ' iewe ', all in Bibles as time went on. Then ' ieue ', then ' iue ', then ' ive ', and then ' ivw ', and finally in the 18th century ' jew '. Jew.

All the corrupt and contracted forms for Judaius, and Judaeas in Latin. Now, there was no such thing as 'Jew', and any theologian - I've lectured in maybe 20 of the most prominent theological seminaries in this country, and two in Europe - there was no such word as Jew. There only was Judea, and Jesus was a Judean and the first English use of a word in an English bible to describe him was 'gyu' - Jew. A contracted and shortened form of Judaeus, just the same as we call a laboratory a 'lab', and gasoline 'gas' a tendency to short up.

So, in England there were no public schools; people didn't know how to read; it looked like a scrambled alphabet so they made a short word out of it. Now for a theologian to say that you can't harm the Jews, is just ridiculous. I'd like to know where in the scriptures it says that. I'd like to know the text.

Look at what happened to Germany for touching Jews. What would you, as a citizen of the United States, do to people who did to you what the so-called Jews - the Pollacks and Litvaks and Litzianers - they weren't Jews, as I just explained to you. They were Eastern Europeans who'd been converted to Talmudism. There was no such thing as Judaism. Judaism was a name given in recent years to this religion known in Bible history as Torah [inaudible]. No Jew or no educated person ever heard of Judaism. It didn't exist. They pulled it out of the air. . . a meaningless word.

Just like 'anti-Semitic'. The Arab is a Semite. And the Christians talk about people who don't like Jews as anti-Semites, and they call all the Arabs anti-Semites. The only Semites in the world are the Arabs. There isn't one Jew who's a Semite. They're all Turkothean Mongoloids. The Eastern european Jews. So, they brainwashed the public, and if you will invite me to meet this reverend who told you these things, I'll convince him and it'll be one step in the right direction. I'll go wherever I have to go to meet him.

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Yes, ma'am. Well I can answer that. First of all, your first premise is wrong. Your first premise that all the Jews are loyal to each other is wrong. Because, the Eastern European Jews outnumber all the rest by so many that they create the impression that they are the Jewish 'race'; that they are the Jewish nation; that they are the Jewish people. . . and the Christians swallow it like a cream puff.

But in 1844 the German rabbis called a conference of rabbis from all over the world for the purpose of abolishing the Kol Nidre from the Day of Atonement religious ceremony. In Brunswick, Germany, where that conference was held in 1844, there was almost a terrific riot. A civil war.

The Eastern Europeans said, "What the hell. We should give up Kol Nidre? That gives us our grip on our people. We give them a franchise so they can tell the Christians, 'Go to hell. We'll make any deal you want', but they don't have to carry it out. That gives us our grip on our people". So, they're not so united, and if you knew the feeling that exists. . .

Now, I'll also show you from an official document by the man responsible for. . . uh, who baptized this race. Here is a paper that we obtained from the archives of the Zionist organization in New York City, and in it is the manuscript by Sir James A. Malcolm, who - on behalf of the British Cabinet - negotiated the deal with these Zionists.

And in here he says that all the jews in England were against it. The Jews who had been there for years, the [inaudible - probably Sephardim], those who had Portuguese and Spanish ad Dutch ancestry who were monotheists and believed in that religious belief. That was while the Eastern European Jews were still running around in the heart of Asia and then came into Europe. But they had no more to do with them than. . . can we talk about a Christian 'race'? or a Christian religion? or are the Christians united?

So the same disunity is among the Jews. And I'll show you in this same document that when they went to France to try and get the French government to back that Zionist venture, there was only one Jew in France who was for it. That was Rothschild, and they did it because they were interested in the oil and the Suez Canal

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[Question inaudible] Freedman: You know why? Because if they don't, they're decked up. They come around and they tell you how much you must give, and if you don't . . . oh, you're anti-Semitic. Then none of their friends will have anything to do with them, and they start a smear campaign. . . and you have got to give.

In New York city, in the garment center, there are twelve manufacturers in the building. And when the drive is on to sell Israel Bonds, the United Jewish Drive, they put a big scoreboard with the names of the firms and opposite them, as you make the amount they put you down for, they put a gold star after the name. Then, the buyers are told, "When you come into that building to call on someone and they haven't got a gold star, tell them that you won't buy from them until they have the gold star". BLACKMAIL. I don't know what else you can call it.

Then what do they do? They tell you it's for 'humanitarian purposes' and they send maybe $8 billion dollars to Israel, tax exempt, tax deductible. So if they hadn't sent that eight billion dollars to Israel, seven billion of it would have gone into the U.S. Treasury as income tax. So what happens? That seven billion dollars deficit - that air pocket - the gullible Christians have to make up.

They put a bigger tax on gas or bread or corporation tax. Somebody has to pay the housekeeping expenses for the government. So why do you let these people send their money over there to buy guns to drive people out of their ancient homeland? And you say, "Oh, well. The poor Jews. They have no place to go and they've been persecuted all their lives". They've never been persecuted for their religion. And I wish I had two rows of Rabbis here to challenge me. Never once, in all of history, have they been persecuted for their religion.

Do you know why the Jews were driven out of England? King Edward the First in 1285 drove them out, and they never came back until the Cromwell Revolution which was financed by the Rothschilds. For four-hundred years there wasn't a Jew. But do you know why they were driven out? Because in the Christian faith and the Moslem faith it's a sin to charge 'rent' for the use of money. In other words – what we call interest [usury] is a sin.

So the Jews had a monopoly in England and they charged so much interest, and when the Lords and Dukes couldn't pay, they [Jews] foreclosed. And they were creating so much trouble that the king of England finally made himself their partner, because when they they came to foreclose, some of these dukes bumped off the Jews. . . the money-lenders. So the king finally said - and this is all in history, look up Tianson [Tennyson?] or Rourke, the History of the Jews in England; two books you can find in your library. When the king found out what the trouble was all about, and how much money they were making, he declared himself a fifty-percent partner of the money lenders. Edward the First. And for many years, one-third of the revenues of the British Treasury came from the fifty-percent interest in money-lending by the Jews.

But it got worse and worse. So much worse that when the Lords and Dukes kept killing the money-lenders, the King then said, "I declare myself the heir of all the money-lenders. If they're killed you have to pay me, because I'm his sole heir". That made so much trouble, because the King had to go out and collect the money with an army, so he told the Jews to get out. There were 15,000 of them, and they had to get out, and they went across to Ireland, and that's how Ireland got to be part of the United Kingdom.

When King Edward found out what they were doing, he decided to take Ireland for himself before someone else did. He sent Robert Southgard with a mercenary army and conquered Ireland. So, show me one time where a Jew was persecuted in any country because of his religion. It has never happened. It's always their impact on the political, social, or economic customs and traditions of the community in which they settle.

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[Question inaudible] Freedman: Yes, sir. Well, they say most of those things themselves. It was unnecessary for Benjamin Franklin to say it. Most of those things they say themselves. But Benjamin Franklin observed, and by hearsay understood, what was happening in Europe.

When Russia, in 920 was formed, and gradually surrounded the Khazar Kingdom, and absorbed them, most of the well-to-do Khazars fled to Western Europe and brought with them the very things to which you object and I object and a lot of other people object. The customs, the habits, the instincts with which they were endowed.

When Benjamin Franklin referred to them as Jews because that's the name that they went by, and when the Christians first heard that these people who were fleeing from Russia - who they were - that they had practiced this Talmudic faith - the Christians in Western Europe said, "They must be the remnants of the lost ten tribes!"

And Mr. Grutz, the greatest historian amongst the Jews, said that - and he's probably as good an authority on that subject as there is. So when Ben Franklin came to Europe in the 18th century, he already saw the results of what these people had done after they left their homeland. And every word of it is true they say it themselves. I can give you half a dozen books they've written in which they say the same thing: When they have money they become tyrants. And when they become defeated, they become ruthless. They're only barbarians. They're the descendants of Asiatic Mongols and they will do anything to accomplish their purpose.

What right did they have to take over Russia the way they did? The Czar had abdicated nine or ten months before that. There was no need for them. . . they were going to have a constitutional monarchy. But they didn't want that. When the constitutional monarchy was to assemble in November, they mowed them all down and established the Soviet Union.

There was no need for that. But they thought, "Now is the time", and if you you will look in the Encyclopedia Britannica under the word 'Bolshevism', you'll find the five laws there that Lenin put down for a successful revolution. One of them is, "Wait for the right time, and then give them everything you've got". It would pay you to read that.

You'd also find that Mr. Harold Blacktree, who wrote the article for the Encyclopedia Britannica states that the Jews conceived and created and cultivated the Communist movement. And that their energy made them the spearhead of the movement. Harold Blacktree wrote it and no one knew more about Communism than he. And the Encyclopedia Britannica for 25 years has been printing it.

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[Question inaudible] Freedman: Well, I can't advocate that you do anything that's criminal, but I can tell you this. You can start what I call an endless chain. If you can get your friends to write, objectively, here is the statement: Mr. Kennedy's office gave me this himself. Mr. Smith, who succeeded Mr. Kennedy, took over his office - was in his office - and gave me this. He delivered this on the 25th, and it says here:

"For release to AM (that means morning papers), August 25th". "Israel is here to stay. It is a national commitment, special obligation of the Democratic Party. The White House must take the lead. American intervention. We will act promptly and decisively against any nation in the Middle East which attacks its neighbor. I propose that we make clear to both Israel and the Arab states our guarantee that we will act with whatever force and speed are necessary to halt any aggression by any nation".

Well, do you call the return of people to their homeland [the Arab Palestinians] aggression? Is Mr. Kennedy going to do that? Suppose three million Mexicans came into Texas and drove the six million Texans into the deserts of Arizona and New Mexico. Suppose these Mexicans were slipped in there armed - the Texans were disarmed - and one night they drove them all out of Texas and declared themselves the Republic of the Alamo. What would the United States say?

Would we say it's aggression for these Texans to try to get their homes back from the Mexican thieves? Suppose the Negroes in Alabama were secretly armed by the Soviets and overnight they rose up and drove all the whites into the swamps of Mississippi and Georgia and Florida. . . drove them out completely, and declared themselves the Republic of Ham, or the Republic of something-or-other. Would we call it aggression if these people, the whites of Alabama, tried to go back to their homes?

Would we. . . what would we think if the soviet Union said, "No, those Negroes now occupy them! Leave them there!", or "No, those Mexicans are in Texas. they declared themselves a sovereign state. Leave them there. You have plenty of room in Utah and Nevada. Settle somewhere else".

Would we call it aggression if the Alabama whites or the Texans wanted to go back to their homes? So now, you've go Read More Agree: Amanda

daniel le mouche , April 11, 2017 at 9:02 pm GMT \n
@Rob Green Rudy Dent is a disgraced FDNY ex-fireman who is shunned and hated by his former colleagues for desecrating the memory of those fallen on 9/11. He should rot in hell for the fabrications he is spewing about the deaths of his former brothers. a clown, an idiot you are. this man's words were beautiful. additionally, you lie that he is hated by his compatriots. this man should rot in hell for defending the memory of over 300 of his fallen brothers??? you are scum. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
Sam J. , April 11, 2017 at 9:36 pm GMT \n
@dninmore I always thought UA Flight 93 was supposed to hit Bldg 7. No evidence, just a hunch. I agree with that being very possible. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
Sam J. , April 11, 2017 at 9:37 pm GMT \n
@daniel le mouche Yes, and the Twin Towers came down at freefall speed too--all I needed, having knowledge of this basic principle of physics, to say, 'That's impossible.' It was and is, of course.
But there's no piece in their idiotic puzzle that makes any more sense. Building 7, the Pentagon where no plane was to be seen, Shanksville's crater, and debris scattered for miles, etc. etc. etc. etc.
Still, all the moles and trolls keep the petal to the metal, repeat, repeat--'Konspearissy Kkoooockss, HaHaHaHaHA'. " Still, all the moles and trolls keep the petal to the metal, repeat, repeat "

The Spoofers! Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Sam J. , April 11, 2017 at 9:42 pm GMT \n
100 Words @2stateshmoostate Excellent article.
I think there are only two way we might end control of the US government by the traitors who perpetrated 911.
One is to expose them at their most vulnerable point and that is 911. That attack doesn't hold up to reason. There's an endless of inconsistencies and contradictions that I won't go into here. How to get the attention of the American people? I don't know. I don't understand why the leaders adversarial states don't bring up the obvious fact that 911 was a false flag operation. This in order to DE-legitimize or create suspicion towards the US government. This is the kind of story I would think RT news would publish, and maybe they will if hostilities escalate between Russia and the US.
The other way we might get rid of these traitors is how Argentina got rid of the Generals; A massive military defeat that causes even the mindless lumps that are most of Americans to set up and take notice.
Ultimately these traitors will go, it's only a question of when and how much damage they do in the mean time.
Also I want to congratulate Mr. Dinh on his accurate prediction in a previous article that Trump was just another neocon puppet. I always agreed with that, because the scum that did 911 were not about to let anyone they don't control, get elected president of the US. " One is to expose them at their most vulnerable point and that is 911 "

Agreed BIG TIME. The verdict is still not in on Trump. I'm not naive but miracles happen. If he hasn't made 9-11 public in a year then sigh we've been shafted again and other actions must be taken.

Sandy Hook is another good one. If all I'm hearing is true there's no bodies, no deaths and the school wasn't even being used. A hand full of FBI demanding documents could out the whole thing. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

dninmore , April 11, 2017 at 10:56 pm GMT \n
@anarchyst Let's see...the "camps" had libraries, theaters, medical facilities, dining, and other facilities for the "comforts" of the occupants. Doctors, dentists were also available to see to the inmates' medical needs. In fact, many times specialists were brought in for unusual, difficult medical cases. There were also strict rules for the guards that severely punished any misbehavior against the inmates.
If these camps were "killing facilities", why all the amenities?
In addition, the logistics of transferring people from camp to camp had to be enormous.
Germany did not have the fuel to waste on transferring inmates from facility to facility, the idea that the "camps" were "killing facilities" is preposterous. What holocaust ™ promoters never show is the interviews of the (honest) camp occupants who report that there were no "gas chambers" and that they were treated well. These interviews, although available, are never shown. Why?
The truth is, most people survived the camps, and went on to live the rest of their long lives without incident. It is only in the 1960s where "the powers that be" CREATED the holocaust ™ as a "cash cow" that "keeps on giving" to this very day. Compare the Nazi camps to Eisenhower's after the war. We know who the real Holocaust was preyed on. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
NoseytheDuke , April 11, 2017 at 11:17 pm GMT \n
100 Words @anarchyst Let's see...the "camps" had libraries, theaters, medical facilities, dining, and other facilities for the "comforts" of the occupants. Doctors, dentists were also available to see to the inmates' medical needs. In fact, many times specialists were brought in for unusual, difficult medical cases. There were also strict rules for the guards that severely punished any misbehavior against the inmates.
If these camps were "killing facilities", why all the amenities?
In addition, the logistics of transferring people from camp to camp had to be enormous.
Germany did not have the fuel to waste on transferring inmates from facility to facility, the idea that the "camps" were "killing facilities" is preposterous. What holocaust ™ promoters never show is the interviews of the (honest) camp occupants who report that there were no "gas chambers" and that they were treated well. These interviews, although available, are never shown. Why?
The truth is, most people survived the camps, and went on to live the rest of their long lives without incident. It is only in the 1960s where "the powers that be" CREATED the holocaust ™ as a "cash cow" that "keeps on giving" to this very day. Obviously a lot of people did perish in the camps as we've all seen footage countless times of piles of near-skeletal bodies being bulldozed into mass graves. It should be obvious to even a casual observer, if there could be such an individual, that these tragic deaths were clearly caused by starvation. This is seldom mentioned and all of these scenes took place towards the very end of the conflict after long range fuel tanks and the Norden bombsight had made possible accurate targeting of strategic supply lines causing massive starvation for everyone, but obviously much worse in the camps. Tragic every way one looks at it. Read More
Bob Weber , April 12, 2017 at 1:24 am GMT \n
@NoseytheDuke Linh Dinh, this is surely your best piece in ages, if not ever. Well done. Rudy Dent truly loves America and America should love him for that. Rudy Dent was not present for the collapses of the Twin Towers. He suddenly remembered all the "damning evidence" about 9/11 only in 204. He's also a Hitler worshipper and Holocaust Denier. See for yourself:

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Amanda , April 12, 2017 at 11:40 am GMT \n
@republic A Jewish Defector Warns America:

Benjamin Freedman Speaks on Zionism

This should do it! For the second and last time we are updating the transcript of Ben Freedman's 1961 speech at the Willard Hotel.

The piece has been posted for over a year now. A few months ago, a person challenged the authenticity of the transcript, because his version stated that Samuel Untermeyer had used the Columbia Broadcasting studios when he declared a worldwide boycott against Germany -- in his words: 'A Holy War'. We could not debate the issue, having never heard the actual recording of Mr. Freedman's speech. Today, I discovered that we have a cassette tape of the speech, so I listened to the entire tape while reading the posted transcript. According to Mr. Freedman the radio station used by Untermeyer was, in fact, ABC.

There had also been some simple rearrangements of sentence structure in that transcript, and a line or two omitted in places. For the sake of authenticity, the corrections have been made. The transcript is now word for word from Mr. Freedman's speech.

The original transcriber had 'tidied up' Mr. Freedman's responses during the Q&A period, omitting superfluous and repetitious words. For the most part, we've left the tidied up version as it was, since it didn't change the response, and actually helped to clarify Mr. Freedman's answers. If the names were changed, he could have been making that speech yesterday. -- Jackie -- April 8, 2003

Here is our first update notice, about a year ago:

The original posting of this speech was taken from an existing web site. In going through our files we recently discovered a full transcript of the speech and realized the original posting was not complete. Here is the transcript from our files, with additional text at the beginning - some within the body of the speech - and a question and answer section at the end that had not been included in the original posting. There will be further postings from other writers and quotes that will confirm much of what Mr. Freedman said here. Many of you will see the truth of it, as it stands. -- Jackie --

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The Truth will stand on its own merit

A Jewish Defector Warns America:

Benjamin Freedman Speaks

by Benjamin H. Freedman

Introductory Note -- Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20th century.

Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States.

Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times.

This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential message to us -- his warning to the West -- is more urgent than ever before. -- K.A.S. ---

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A CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE HOLOCAUST

Ladies and gentlemen, you are about to hear a very frightening speech. This speech is an explanation of the plans now being laid to throw the United States into a third world war. It was made a short time ago before a large group in the Congressional `Room of the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C. Both the speech and the question and answer period later so electrified the audience that a group of patriots has transferred it to two long-playing records which you may buy to play for friends, clubs, and your church group in your community. The speaker is Mr. Benjamin Freedman, noted authority on Zionism and all of its schemes. Mr. Freedman is a former Jew, and I mean a FORMER Jew. He has fought the Communist world conspiracy tooth and nail, and stands today as a leading American patriot. We now take you to the speaker's platform to present Benjamin Freedman.

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[Freedman's speech]

What I intend to tell you tonight is something that you have never been able to learn from any other source, and what I tell you now concerns not only you, but your children and the survival of this country and Christianity. I'm not here just to dish up a few facts to send up your blood pressure, but I'm here to tell you things that will help you preserve what you consider the most sacred things in the world: the liberty, and the freedom, and the right to live as Christians, where you have a little dignity, and a little right to pursue the things that your conscience tells you are the right things, as Christians.

Now, first of all, I'd like to tell you that on August 25th 1960 -- that was shortly before elections -- Senator Kennedy, who is now the President of the United States, went to New York, and delivered an address to the Zionist Organization of America. In that address, to reduce it to its briefest form, he stated that he would use the armed forces of the United States to preserve the existence of the regime set up in Palestine by the Zionists who are now in occupation of that area.

In other words, Christian boys are going to be yanked out of their homes, away from their families, and sent abroad to fight in Palestine against the Christian and Moslem Arabs who merely want to return to their homes. And these Christian boys are going to be asked to shoot to kill these innocent [Arab Palestinians] people who only want to follow out fifteen resolutions passed by the United Nations in the last twelve years calling upon the Zionists to allow these people to return to their homes.

Now, when United States troops appear in the Middle East to fight with the Zionists as their allies to prevent the return of these people who were evicted from their homes in the 1948 armed insurrection by the Zionists who were transplanted there from Eastern Europe... when that happens, the United States will trigger World War III.

You say, when will that take place? The answer is, as soon as the difficulty between France and Algeria has been settled, that will take place. As soon as France and Algeria have been settled, that will take place. As soon as France and Algeria have settled their difficulty, and the Arab world, or the Moslem world, has no more war on their hands with France, they are going to move these people back into their homes, and when they do that and President kennedy sends your sons to fight over there to help the crooks hold on to what they stole from innocent men, women and children, we will trigger World War III; and when that starts you can be sure we cannot emerge from that war a victor. We are going to lose that war because there is not one nation in the world that will let one of their sons fight with us for such a cause.

I know and speak to these ambassadors in Washington and the United Nations -- and of the ninety-nine nations there, I've consulted with maybe seventy of them -- and when we go to war in Palestine to help the thieves retain possession of what they have stolen from these innocent people we're not going to have a man there to fight with us as our ally.

And who will these people have supporting them, you ask. Well, four days after President Kennedy -- or he was then Senator Kennedy -- made that statement on August 28, 1960, the Arab nations called a meeting in Lebanon and there they decided to resurrect, or reactivate, the government of Palestine, which has been dormant more or less, since the 1948 armed insurrection by the Zionists.

Not only that... they ordered the creation of the Palestine Army, and they are now drilling maybe a half a million soldiers in that area of the world to lead these people back to their homeland. With them, they have as their allies all the nations of what is termed the Bandung Conference Group. That includes the Soviet Union and every Soviet Union satellite. It includes Red China; it includes every independent country in Asia and Africa; or eighty percent of the world's total population. Eighty percent of the world's population. Four out of five human beings on the face of the earth will be our enemies at war with us. And not alone are they four out of five human beings now on the face of this earth, but they are the non-Christian population of the world and they are the non-Caucasians... the non-white nations of the world, and that's what we face.

And what is the reason? The reason is that here in the United States, the Zionists and their co-religionists have complete control of our government. For many reasons too many and too complex to go into here at this -- time I'll be glad to answer questions, however, to support that statement -- the Zionists and their co-religionists rule this United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country.

Now, you say, 'well, that's a very broad statement to make', but let me show what happened while you were -- I don't want to wear that out --- let me show what happened while WE were all asleep. I'm including myself with you. We were all asleep. What happened?

World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. Nineteen-hundred and fourteen was the year in which World War One broke out. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey. What happened?

Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean, and Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, stood there with one week's food supply facing her -- and after that, starvation.

At that time, the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. They were picking up their toys and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed.

Now Germany -- not a shot had been fired on the German soil. Not an enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: "Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started."

Well, England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that. Seriously! They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated.

While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and -- I am going to be brief because this is a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make if anyone here is curious, or doesn't believe what I'm saying is at all possible -- the Zionists in London went to the British war cabinet and they said: "Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally."

The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They [Zionists] told England: "We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war."

In other words, they made this deal: "We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay us is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey."

Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely absurd that Great Britain -- that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine -- should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war.

However, they made that promise, in October of 1916. October, nineteen hundred and sixteen. And shortly after that -- I don't know how many here remember it -- the United States, which was almost totally pro-German -- totally pro-German -- because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews, and they were pro-German because their people, in the majority of cases came from Germany, and they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar.

The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. So the German bankers -- the German-Jews -- Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: "As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!" But they poured money into Germany, they fought with Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime.

Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, they went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like the traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. And they were no good.

Well, shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany.

The Zionists in London sent these cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis: "Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work, and you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war." And that did happen. That's how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room.

Now the war -- World War One -- in which the United States participated had absolutely no reason to be our war. We went in there -- we were railroaded into it -- if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into -- that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. Now, that is something that the people in the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War One. Now, what happened?

After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: "Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war." Because they didn't know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, and it was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration.

The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. And I don't think I could make it more emphatic than that.

Now, that is where all the trouble started. The United States went in the war. The United States crushed Germany. We went in there, and it's history. You know what happened. Now, when the war was ended, and the Germans went to Paris, to the Paris Peace Conference in 1919, there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know. Now what happened?

The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all these nations that claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, the Jews said, "How about Palestine for us?" And they produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour Declaration. So the Germans, for the first time realized, "Oh, that was the game! That's why the United States came into the war." And the Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered this terrific reparation that was slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and they were determined to get it at any cost.

Now, that brings us to another very interesting point. When the Germans realized this, they naturally resented it. Up to that time, the Jews had never been better off in any country in the world than they had been in Germany.

You had Mr. Rathenau there, who was maybe 100 times as important in industry and finance as is Bernard Baruch in this country. You had Mr. Balin, who owned the two big steamship lines, the North German Lloyd's and the Hamburg-American Lines. You had Mr. Bleichroder, who was the banker for the Hohenzollern family. You had the Warburgs in Hamburg, who were the big merchant bankers -- the biggest in the world. The Jews were doing very well in Germany. No question about that. Now, the Germans felt: "Well, that was quite a sellout."

It was a sellout that I can best compare -- suppose the United States was at war today with the Soviet Union. And we were winning. And we told the Soviet Union: "Well, let's quit. We offer you peace terms. Let's forget the whole thing." And all of a sudden Red China came into the war as an ally of the Soviet Union. And throwing them into the war brought about our defeat. A crushing defeat, with reparations the likes of which man's imagination cannot encompass.

Imagine, then, after that defeat, if we found out that it was the Chinese in this country, our Chinese citizens, who all the time we thought they were loyal citizens working with us, were selling us out to the Soviet Union and that it was through them that Red China was brought into the war against us. How would we feel, in the United States against Chinese? I don't think that one of them would dare show his face on any street. There wouldn't be lampposts enough, convenient, to take care of them. Imagine how we would feel.

Well, that's how the Germans felt towards these Jews. "We've been so nice to them"; and from 1905 on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia failed, and the Jews had to scramble out of Russia, they all went to Germany. And Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And here they sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than they wanted Palestine as a so-called "Jewish commonwealth."

Now, Nahum Sokolow -- all the great leaders, the big names that you read about in connection with Zionism today -- they, in 1919, 1920, '21, '22, and '23, they wrote in all their papers -- and the press was filled with their statements -- that "the feeling against the Jews in Germany is due to the fact that they realized that this great defeat was brought about by our intercession and bringing the United States into the war against them."

The Jews themselves admitted that. It wasn't that the Germans in 1919 discovered that a glass of Jewish blood tasted better than Coca-Cola or Muenschner Beer. There was no religious feeling. There was no sentiment against those people merely on account of their religious belief. It was all political. It was economic. It was anything but religious.

Nobody cared in Germany whether a Jew went home and pulled down the shades and said "Shema' Yisrael" or "Our Father." No one cared in Germany any more than they do in the United States. Now this feeling that developed later in Germany was due to one thing: that the Germans held the Jews responsible for their crushing defeat, for no reason at all, because World War One was started against Germany for no reason for which they [Germans] were responsible. They were guilty of nothing. Only of being successful. They built up a big navy. They built up world trade.

You must remember, Germany, at the time of Napoleon, at the time of the French Revolution, what was the German Reich consisted of 300 -- three hundred! -- small city-states, principalities, dukedoms, and so forth. Three hundred little separate political entities. And between that time, between the period of. . . between Napoleon and Bismarck, they were consolidated into one state. And within 50 years after that time they became one of the world's great powers. Their navy was rivalling Great Britain's, they were doing business all over the world, they could undersell anybody and make better products. And what happened? What happened as a result of that?

There was a conspiracy between England, France, and Russia that: "We must slap down Germany", because there isn't one historian in the world that can find a valid reason why those three countries decided to wipe Germany off the map politically. Now, what happened after that?

When Germany realized that the Jews were responsible for her defeat, they naturally resented it. But not a hair on the head of any Jew was harmed. Not a single hair. Professor Tansill, of Georgetown University, who had access to all the secret papers of the State Department, wrote in his book, and quoted from a State Department document written by Hugo Schoenfelt, a Jew who Cordell Hull sent to Europe in 1933 to investigate the so-called camps of political prisoners. And he wrote back that he found them in very fine condition.

They were in excellent shape; everybody treated well. And they were filled with Communists. Well, a lot of them were Jews, because the Jews happened to be maybe 98 per cent of the Communists in Europe at that time. And there were some priests there, and ministers, and labor leaders, Masons, and others who had international affiliations.

Now, the Jews sort of tried to keep the lid on this fact. They didn't want the world to really understand that they had sold out Germany, and that the Germans resented that.

So they did take appropriate action against them [against the Jews]. They. . . shall I say, discriminated against them wherever they could? They shunned them. The same as we would the Chinese, or the Negroes, or the Catholics, or anyone in this country who had sold us out to an enemy and brought about our defeat.

Now, after a while, the Jews of the world didn't know what to do, so they called a meeting in Amsterdam. Jews from every country in the world attended in July 1933. And they said to Germany: "You fire Hitler! And you put every Jew back into his former position, whether he was a Communist, no matter what he was. You can't treat us that way! And we, the Jews of the world, are calling upon you, and serving this ultimatum upon you." Well, the Germans told them. . . you can imagine. So what did they [the Jews] do?

They broke up, and Samuel Untermyer, if the name means anything to people here. . . (You want to ask a question? --- Uh, there were no Communists in Germany at that time. they were called 'Social Democrats.)

Well, I don't want to go by what they were called. We're now using English words, and what they were called in Germany is not very material. . . but they were Communists, because in 1917, the Communists took over Germany for a few days. Rosa Luxembourg and Karl Liebknecht, and a group of Jews in Germany took over the government for three days. In fact, when the Kaiser ended the war, he fled to Holland because he thought the Communists were going to take over Germany as they did Russia, and that he was going to meet the same fate that the Czar did in Russia. So he left and went to Holland for safety and for security.

Now, at that time, when the Communist threat in Germany was quashed, it was quiet, the Jews were working, still trying to get back into their former -- their status -- and the Germans fought them in every way they could, without hurting a hair on anyone's head. The same as one group, the Prohibitionists, fought the people who were interested in liquor, and they didn't fight one another with pistols, they did it every way they could.

Well, that's the way they were fighting the Jews in Germany. And, at that time, mind you, there were 80 to 90 million Germans and there were only 460,000 Jews. . . less than one half of one percent of Germany were Jews. And yet, they controlled all of the press, they controlled most of the economy, because they had come in and with cheap money -- you know the way the Mark was devalued -- they bought up practically everything.

Well, in 1933 when Germany refused to surrender, mind you, to the World Conference of Jews in Amsterdam, they broke up and Mr. Untermeyer came back to the United States -- who was the head of the American delegation and the president of the whole conference -- and he went from the steamer to ABC and made a radio broadcast throughout the United States in which he said:

"The Jews of the world now declare a Holy War against Germany. We are now engaged in a sacred conflict against the Germans. And we are going to starve them into surrender. We are going to use a world-wide boycott against them, that will destroy them because they are dependent upon their export business."

And it is a fact that two thirds of Germany's food supply had to be imported, and it could only be imported with the proceeds of what they exported. Their labor. So if Germany could not export, two thirds of Germany's population would have to starve. There just was not enough food for more than one third of the population.

Now in this declaration, which I have here, it was printed on page -- a whole page -- in the New York Times on August 7, 1933, Mr. Samuel Untermyer boldly stated that: "this economic boycott is our means of self-defense. President Roosevelt has advocated its use in the NRA" . [National Recovery Administration] -- which some of you may remember, where everybody was to be boycotted unless they followed the rules laid down by the New Deal, which of course was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court at that time.

Nevertheless, the Jews of the world declared a boycott against Germany, and it was so effective that you couldn't find one thing in any store anywhere in the world with the words "made in Germany" on it.

In fact, an executive of the Woolworth Company told me that they had to dump millions of dollars worth of crockery and dishes into the river; that their stores were boycotted. If anyone came in and found a dish marked "made in Germany," they were picketed with signs: "Hitler", "murderer", and so forth, and like -- something like these sit-ins that are taking place in the South.

R. H. Macy, which is controlled by a family called Strauss who also happen to be Jews. . . a woman found stockings there which came from Chemnitz, marked "made in Germany". Well, they were cotton stockings. They may have been there 20 years, because since I've been observing women's legs in the last twenty years, I haven't seen a pair with cotton stockings on them. So Macy! I saw Macy boycotted, with hundreds of people walking around with signs saying "MURDERS" and "HITLERITES", and so forth.

Now up to that time, not one hair on the head of any Jew had been hurt in Germany. There was no suffering, there was no starvation, there was no murder, there was nothing.

Now, that. . . naturally, the Germans said, "Why, who are these people to declare a boycott against us and throw all our people out of work, and our industries come to a standstill? Who are they to do that to us?" They naturally resented it. Certainly they painted swastikas on stores owned by Jews.

Why should a German go in and give their money to a storekeeper who was part of a boycott who was going to starve Germany into surrender into the Jews of the world, who were going to dictate who their premier or chancellor was to be? Well, it was ridiculous.

That continued for some time, and it wasn't until 1938, when a young Jew from Poland walked into the German embassy in Paris and shot one of the officials [a German official] that the Germans really started to get rough with the Jews in Germany. And you found them then breaking windows and having street fights and so forth.

Now, for anyone to say that -- I don't like to use the word 'anti-Semitism' because it's meaningless, but it means something to you still, so I'll have to use it -- the only reason that there was any feeling in Germany against Jews was that they were responsible: number one, for World War One; number two, for this world-wide boycott, and number three -- did I say for World War One, they were responsible? For the boycott -- and also for World War II, because after this thing got out of hand, it was absolutely necessary for the Jews and Germany to lock horns in a war to see which one was going to survive.

In the meanwhile, I had lived in Germany, and I knew that the Germans had decided [that] Europe is going to be Christian or Communist: there is no in between. It's going to be Christian or it's going to be Communist. And the Germans decided: "We're going to keep it Christian if possible". And they started to re-arm.

And there intention was -- by that time the United States had recognized the Soviet Union, which they did in November, 1933 -- the Soviet Union was becoming very powerful, and Germany realized: "Well, our turn is going to come soon, unless we are strong." The same as we in this country are saying today, "Our turn is going to come soon, unless we are strong."

And our government is spending 83 or 84 billion dollars of your money for defense, they say. Defense against whom? Defense against 40,000 little Jews in Moscow that took over Russia, and then, in their devious ways, took over control of many other governments of the world.

Now, for this country to now be on the verge of a Third World War, from which we cannot emerge a victor, is something that staggers my imagination. I know that nuclear bombs are measured in terms of megatons. A megaton is a term used to describe one million tons of TNT. One million tons of TNT is a megaton. Now, our nuclear bombs have a capacity of 10 megatons, or 10 million tons of TNT. That was when they were first developed five or six years ago. Now, the nuclear bombs that are being developed have a capacity of 200 megatons, and God knows how many megatons the nuclear bombs of the Soviet Union have.

So, what do we face now? If we trigger a world war that may develop into a nuclear war, humanity is finished. And why will it take place? It will take place because Act III. . . the curtain goes up on Act III. Act I was World War I. Act II was World War II. Act III is going to be World War III.

The Jews of the world, the Zionists and their co-religionists everywhere, are determined that they are going to again use the United States to help them permanently retain Palestine as their foothold for their world government. Now, that is just as true as I am standing here, because not alone have I read it, but many here have read it, and it's known all over the world.

Now, what are we going to do? The life you save may be your son's. Your boys may be on their way to that war tonight; and you you don't know it any more than you knew that in 1916 in London the Zionists made a deal with the British War Cabinet to send your sons to war in Europe. Did you know it at that time? Not a person in the United States knew it. You weren't permitted to know it.

Who knew it? President Wilson knew it. Colonel House knew it. Other 's knew it. Did I know it? I had a pretty good idea of what was going on: I was liaison to Henry Morgenthau, Sr., in the 1912 campaign when President Wilson was elected, and there was talk around the office there.

I was 'confidential man' to Henry Morgenthau, Sr., who was chairman of the Finance Committee, and I was liaison between him and Rollo Wells, the treasurer. So I sat in these meetings with President Wilson at the head of the table, and all the others, and I heard them drum into President Wilson's brain the graduated income tax and what has become the Federal Reserve, and also indoctrinate him with the Zionist movement.

Justice Brandeis and President Wilson were just as close as the two fingers on this hand, and President Woodrow Wilson was just as incompetent when it came to determining what was going on as a newborn baby. And that's how they got us into World War I, while we all slept.

Now, at this moment... at this moment they may be planning this World War III, in which we don't stand a chance even if they don't use nuclear bombs. How can the United States -- about five percent of the world -- go out and fight eighty to ninety percent of the world on their home ground? How can we do it... send our boys over there to be slaughtered? For what? So the Jews can have Palestine as their 'commonwealth'? They've fooled you so much that you don't know whether you're coming or going.

Now any judge, when he charges a jury, says, "Gentlemen, any witness that you find has told a single lie, you can disregard all his testimony." That is correct. I don't know from what state you come, but in New York state that is the way a judge addresses a jury. If that witness said one lie, disregard his testimony.

Now, what are the facts about the Jews?

The Jews -- I call them Jews to you, because they are known as Jews. I don't call them Jews. I refer to them as so-called Jews, because I know what they are. If Jesus was a Jew, there isn't a Jew in the world today, and if those people are Jews, certainly our Lord and Savior was not one of them, and I can prove that.

Now what happened? The eastern European Jews, who form 92 per cent of the world's population of those people who call themselves Jews, were originally Khazars.

They were a warlike tribe that lived deep in the heart of Asia. And they were so warlike that even the Asiatics drove them out of Asia into eastern Europe -- and to reduce this so you don't get too confused about the history of Eastern Europe -- they set up this big Khazar kingdom: 800,000 square miles. Only, there was no Russia, there were no other countries, and the Khazar kingdom was the biggest country in all Europe -- so big and so powerful that when the other monarchs wanted to go to war, the Khazars would lend them 40,000 soldiers. That's how big and powerful they were.

Now, they were phallic worshippers, which is filthy. I don't want to go into the details of that now. It was their religion the way it was the religion of many other Pagans or Barbarians elsewhere in the world.

Now, the [Khazar] king became so disgusted with the degeneracy of his kingdom that he decided to adopt a so-called monotheistic faith -- either Christianity, Islam -- the Moslem faith -- or what is known today as Judaism -- really Talmudism. So, like spinning a top and calling out "eeny, meeny, miney, moe," he picked out so-called Judaism. And that became the state religion.

He sent down to the Talmudic schools of Pumbedita and Sura and brought up thousands of these rabbis with their teachings, and opened up synagogues and schools in his kingdom of 800,000 people -- 800,000 thousand square miles -- and maybe ten to twenty million people; and they became what we call Jews. There wasn't one of them that had an ancestor that ever put a toe in the Holy Land, not only in Old Testament history, but back to the beginning of time. Not one of them! And yet they come to the Christians and they ask us to support their armed insurrection in Palestine by saying:

"Well, you want to certainly help repatriate God's chosen people to their Promised Land, their ancestral homeland, It's your Christian duty. We gave you one of our boys as your Lord and Savior. You now go to church on Sunday, and kneel and you worship a Jew, and we're Jews."

Well, they were pagan Khazars who were converted just the same as the Irish [were converted]. And it's just as ridiculous to call them "people of the Holy Land," as it would be. . . there are 54 million Chinese Moslems. Fifty four million! And, Mohammed only died in 620 A.D., so in that time, 54 million Chinese have accepted Islam as their religious belief.

Now imagine, in China, 2,000 miles away from Arabia, where the city of Mecca is located, where Mohammed was born. . . imagine if the 54 million Chinese called themselves 'Arabs'. Imagine! Why, you'd say they're lunatics. Anyone who believes that those 54 million Chinese are Arabs must be crazy. All they did was adopt as a religious faith; a belief that had its origin in Mecca, in Arabia.

The same as the Irish. When the Irish became Christians, nobody dumped them in the ocean and imported from the Holy Land a new crop of inhabitants that were Christians. They weren't different people. They were the same people, but they had accepted Christianity as a religious faith.

Now, these Pagans, these Asiatics, these Turko-Finns. . . they were a Mongoloid race who were forced out of Asia into eastern Europe. They likewise, because their king took the faith -- Talmudic faith -- they had no choice. Just the same as in Spain: If the king was Catholic, everybody had to be a Catholic. If not, you had to get out of Spain. So everybody -- they lived on the land just like the trees and the bushes; a human being belonged to the land under their feudal system -- so they [Khazars] all became what we call today, Jews!

Now imagine how silly it was for the Christians. . . for the great Christian countries of the world to say, "We're going to use our power, our prestige to repatriate God's chosen people to their ancestral homeland, their Promised Land."

Now, could there be a bigger lie than that? Could there be a bigger lie than that?

And because they control the newspapers, the magazines, the radio, the television, the book publishing business, they have the ministers in the pulpit, they have the politicians on the soap boxes talking the same language . . . so naturally you'd believe black is white if you heard it often enough. You wouldn't call black black anymore -- you'd start to call black white. And nobody could blame you.

Now, that is one of the great lies. . . that is the foundation of all the misery that has befallen the world. Because after two wars fought in Europe -- World War I and World War II -- if it wasn't possible for them to live in peace and harmony with the people in Europe, like their brethren are living in the United States, what were the two wars fought for? Did they have to -- like you flush the toilet -- because they couldn't get along, did they have to say, "Well, we're going back to our homeland and you Christians can help us"?

I can't understand yet how the Christians in Europe could have been that dumb because every theologian, every history teacher, knew the things that I'm telling you. But, they naturally bribed them, shut them up with money, stuffed their mouths with money, and now. . . I don't care whether you know all this or not. It doesn't make any difference to me whether you know all these facts or not, but it does make a difference to me. I've got, in my family, boys that will have to be in the next war, and I don't want them to go and fight and die... like they died in Korea. Like they died in Japan. Like they've died all over the world. For what?

To help crooks hold on to what they stole from innocent people who had been in peaceful possession of that land, those farms, those homes for hundreds and maybe thousands of years? Is that why the United States must go to war? Because the Democratic Party wants New York State -- the electoral vote? Illinois, the electoral vote? And Pennsylvania, the electoral vote?... which are controlled by the Zionists and their co-religionists?. . . the balance of power?

In New York City there are 400,000 members of the liberal party, all Zionists and their co-religionists. And New York State went for Kennedy by 400,000 votes. Now, I don't blame Mr. Kennedy. I'm fond of Mr. Kennedy. I think he's a great man. I think he can really pull us out of this trouble if we get the facts to him. And I believe he knows a great deal more than his appointments indicate he knows. He's playing with the enemy. Like when you go fishing, you've got to play with the fish. Let 'em out and pull 'em in. Let 'em out and pull 'em in. But knowing Mr. Kennedy's father, and how well informed he is on this whole subject, and how close Kennedy is to his father, I don't think Mr. Kennedy is totally in the dark.

But I do think that it is the duty of every mother, every loyal Christian , every person that regards the defense of this country as a sacred right, that they communicate -- not with their congressman, not with their senator, but with President Kennedy. And tell him, "I do not think you should send my boy, or our boys, wearing the uniform of the United States of America, and under the flag that you see here, our red, white and blue, to fight there to help keep in the hands of these that which they have stolen". I think everyone should not alone write once, but keep writing and get your friends to write.

Now, I could go on endlessly, and tell you these things to support what I have just asked you to do. But I don't think it's necessary to do that. You're above the average group in intelligence and I don't think it's necessary to impress this any more.

But. . . I want to tell you one more thing. You talk about... "Oh, the Jews. Why the Jews? Christianity. Why, we got Christianity from the Jews and the Jews gave us Jesus, and the Jews gave us our religion". But do you know that on the day of atonement that you think is so sacred to them, that on that day... and I was one of them! This is not hearsay. I'm not here to be a rabble-rouser. I'm here to give you facts.

When, on the Day of Atonement, you walk into a synagogue, the very first prayer that you recite, you stand -- and it's the only prayer for which you stand -- and you repeat three times a short prayer. The Kol Nidre. In that prayer, you enter into an agreement with God Almighty that any oath, vow, or pledge that you may make during the next twelve months -- any oath, vow or pledge that you may take during the next twelve months shall be null and void.

The oath shall not be an oath; the vow shall not be a vow; the pledge shall not be a pledge. They shall have no force and effect, and so forth and so on.

And further than that, the Talmud teaches: "Don't forget -- whenever you take an oath, vow, and pledge -- remember the Kol Nidre prayer that you recited on the Day of Atonement, and that exempts you from fulfilling that".

How much can you depend on their loyalty? You can depend upon their loyalty as much as the Germans depended upon it in 1916.

And we're going to suffer the same fate as Germany suffered, and for the same reason. You can't depend upon something as insecure as the leadership that is not obliged to respect an oath, vow or pledge. Now I could go on and recite many other things to you, but I would have a little respect for your time, and you want to really, uh, get through with all of this. Tomorrow's going to be a long day.

Now I want to say one thing. You ask me. . . well, you think to yourself: "well how did this fellow get mixed up in this the way he got mixed up in it." Well, I opened my mouth in 1945, and I took big pages in newspapers and tried to tell the American people what I'm telling you. And one newspaper after another refused the advertisement. And when I couldn't find a newspaper to take them -- I paid cash, not credit -- what happened? My lawyer told me, "There's an editor over in Jersey with a paper who will take your announcement". So, I was brought together with Mr. McGinley, and that's how I met him.

So somebody told me the lawyer who introduced me, who was the son of the Dean of the Methodist Bishop, he said: "Well, I think he's a little anti-Semitic. I don't know whether I can get him over here. So he brought him over to my apartment and we hit it off wonderfully, and have since then.

Now, I say this, and I say it without any qualifications. I say it without any reservations. And I say it without any hesitation. . . if it wasn't for the work that Mr. Conley McGinley did with "Common Sense" -- he's been sending out from 1,800,000 to 2,000,000 every year -- if it wasn't for the work he's been doing sending those out for fifteen years now, we would already be a communist country. Nobody has done what he did to light fires. Many of the other active persons in this fight learned all about if for the first time through "Common Sense".

Now, I have been very active in helping him all I could. I'm not as flush as I was. I cannot go on spending the money. . . I'm not going to take up a collection. Don't worry. I see five people getting up to leave. (laughter)

I haven't got the money that I used to spend. I used to print a quarter of a million of them out of my own pocket and send them out. Mr. McGinley, when I first met him, had maybe 5,000 printed and circulated them locally. So I said, "With what you know and what I know, we can really do a good job". So I started printing in outside shops of big newspaper companies, a quarter of a million, and paid for them. Well, there's always a bottom to the barrel. I suppose we've all reached that at times.

I'm not so poor that I can't live without working and that's what worries the Anti-Defamation League. I can just get by without going and asking for a job or getting on the bread line. But Mr. McGinley is working. He's sick and he's going at this stronger than ever. And all I want to say is that they want to close up "Common Sense" more than any other single thing in the whole world, as a death-blow to the fight Christians are making to survive.

So I just want to tell you this. All they do is circulate rumors: "Mr. Benjamin H. Freedman is the wealthy backer of 'Common Sense'." The reason they do that is to discourage the people in the United States: don't send any money to Common Sense. They don't need it. The've got the wealthy Mr. Freedman as a backer. That all has strategy. They don't want to advertise me so that people that have real estate or securities to sell will come and call on me. They just want people to lay off "Common Sense". And all I'm telling you is, I do try to help him, but I haven't been able to. And I will be very honest. One thing I won't do is lie. In the last year I've had so much sickness in my family that I could not give him one dollar.

How he's managed to survive, I don't know. God alone knows. And he must be in God's care because how he's pulled through his sickness and with his financial troubles, I don't know. But that press is working. . . and every two weeks about a hundred or a hundred-fifty-thousand of "Common Sense" go out with a new message. And if that information could be multiplied. . . if people that now get it could buy ten or twenty five, or fifty, give them around. Plow that field. Sow those seeds, you don't know which will take root, but for God's sake, this is our last chance.

[Freedman then discusses the importance of people forgoing unnecessary purchases to 'buy more stuff', play golf, etc., and use the money to keep "Common Sense" going. He explains that the paper is going in debt; could be closed down and he (Freedman) no longer has the funds, having spent some $2,400,000 in his attempt to bring the information to the American public and elected officials. He then asks for questions from the audience.)

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Freedman: All right, I'll comment on that. This is rather deep, but you all have a very high degree of intelligence, so I'm going to make an attempt. In the time of Bible history, there was a geographic area known as Judea. Judea was a province of the Roman Empire. Now, a person who lived in Judea was known as a Judean, and in Latin it was Judaeus; in Greek it was Judaius. Those are the two words, in Greek and Latin, for a Judean.

Now, in Latin and Greek there is no such letter as 'j', and the first syllable of Judaeus and Judaius starts 'ghu'. Now, when the Bible was written, it was first written in Greek, Latin, Panantic, Syriac, Aramaic... all those languages. Never Was the word Jew in any of them because the word didn't exist. Judea was the country, and the people were Judeans, and Jesus was referred to only as a Judean. I've seen those early... the earliest scripts available.

In 1345, a man by the name of Wycliffe in England thought that it was time to translate the Bible into English. There was no English edition of the Bible because who the Devil could read? It was only the educated church people who could read Latin and Greek, Syriac, Aramaic and the other languages. Anyhow, Wycliffe translated the Bible into English. But in it, he had to look around for some words for Judaeas and Judaius.

There was no English word because Judea had passed out of existence. There was no Judea. People had long ago forgotten that. So in the first translation he used the word, in referring to Jesus, as 'gyu', "jew". At the time, there was no printing press.

Then, between 1345 and the 17th century, when the press came into use, that word passed through so many changes... I have them all here. If you want I can read them to you. I will. That word 'gyu' which was in the Wycliffe Bible became. . . first it was ' gyu ', then ' giu ', then ' iu ' (because the ' i ' in Latin is pronounced like the ' j '. Julius Caesar is ' Iul ' because there is no 'j' in Latin) then ' iuw ', then ' ieuu ', then ' ieuy ', then ' iwe ', then ' iow ', then ' iewe ', all in Bibles as time went on. Then ' ieue ', then ' iue ', then ' ive ', and then ' ivw ', and finally in the 18th century... ' jew '. Jew.

All the corrupt and contracted forms for Judaius, and Judaeas in Latin. Now, there was no such thing as 'Jew', and any theologian -- I've lectured in maybe 20 of the most prominent theological seminaries in this country, and two in Europe -- there was no such word as Jew. There only was Judea, and Jesus was a Judean and the first English use of a word in an English bible to describe him was 'gyu' -- Jew. A contracted and shortened form of Judaeus, just the same as we call a laboratory a 'lab', and gasoline 'gas'... a tendency to short up.

So, in England there were no public schools; people didn't know how to read; it looked like a scrambled alphabet so they made a short word out of it. Now for a theologian to say that you can't harm the Jews, is just ridiculous. I'd like to know where in the scriptures it says that. I'd like to know the text.

Look at what happened to Germany for touching Jews. What would you, as a citizen of the United States, do to people who did to you what the so-called Jews -- the Pollacks and Litvaks and Litzianers -- they weren't Jews, as I just explained to you. They were Eastern Europeans who'd been converted to Talmudism. There was no such thing as Judaism. Judaism was a name given in recent years to this religion known in Bible history as Torah [inaudible]. No Jew or no educated person ever heard of Judaism. It didn't exist. They pulled it out of the air. . . a meaningless word.

Just like 'anti-Semitic'. The Arab is a Semite. And the Christians talk about people who don't like Jews as anti-Semites, and they call all the Arabs anti-Semites. The only Semites in the world are the Arabs. There isn't one Jew who's a Semite. They're all Turkothean Mongoloids. The Eastern european Jews. So, they brainwashed the public, and if you will invite me to meet this reverend who told you these things, I'll convince him and it'll be one step in the right direction. I'll go wherever I have to go to meet him.

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Yes, ma'am. Well... I can answer that. First of all, your first premise is wrong. Your first premise that all the Jews are loyal to each other is wrong. Because, the Eastern European Jews outnumber all the rest by so many that they create the impression that they are the Jewish 'race'; that they are the Jewish nation; that they are the Jewish people. . . and the Christians swallow it like a cream puff.

But in 1844 the German rabbis called a conference of rabbis from all over the world for the purpose of abolishing the Kol Nidre from the Day of Atonement religious ceremony. In Brunswick, Germany, where that conference was held in 1844, there was almost a terrific riot. A civil war.

The Eastern Europeans said, "What the hell. We should give up Kol Nidre? That gives us our grip on our people. We give them a franchise so they can tell the Christians, 'Go to hell. We'll make any deal you want', but they don't have to carry it out. That gives us our grip on our people". So, they're not so united, and if you knew the feeling that exists. . .

Now, I'll also show you from an official document by the man responsible for. . . uh, who baptized this race. Here is a paper that we obtained from the archives of the Zionist organization in New York City, and in it is the manuscript by Sir James A. Malcolm, who -- on behalf of the British Cabinet -- negotiated the deal with these Zionists.

And in here he says that all the jews in England were against it. The Jews who had been there for years, the [inaudible - probably Sephardim], those who had Portuguese and Spanish ad Dutch ancestry... who were monotheists and believed in that religious belief. That was while the Eastern European Jews were still running around in the heart of Asia and then came into Europe. But they had no more to do with them than. . . can we talk about a Christian 'race'? or a Christian religion?... or are the Christians united?

So the same disunity is among the Jews. And I'll show you in this same document that when they went to France to try and get the French government to back that Zionist venture, there was only one Jew in France who was for it. That was Rothschild, and they did it because they were interested in the oil and the Suez Canal

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[Question inaudible] Freedman: You know why? Because if they don't, they're decked up. They come around and they tell you how much you must give, and if you don't . . . oh, you're anti-Semitic. Then none of their friends will have anything to do with them, and they start a smear campaign. . . and you have got to give.

In New York city, in the garment center, there are twelve manufacturers in the building. And when the drive is on to sell Israel Bonds, the United Jewish Drive, they put a big scoreboard with the names of the firms and opposite them, as you make the amount they put you down for, they put a gold star after the name. Then, the buyers are told, "When you come into that building to call on someone and they haven't got a gold star, tell them that you won't buy from them until they have the gold star". BLACKMAIL. I don't know what else you can call it.

Then what do they do? They tell you it's for 'humanitarian purposes' and they send maybe $8 billion dollars to Israel, tax exempt, tax deductible. So if they hadn't sent that eight billion dollars to Israel, seven billion of it would have gone into the U.S. Treasury as income tax. So what happens? That seven billion dollars deficit -- that air pocket -- the gullible Christians have to make up.

They put a bigger tax on gas or bread or corporation tax. Somebody has to pay the housekeeping expenses for the government. So why do you let these people send their money over there to buy guns to drive people out of their ancient homeland? And you say, "Oh, well. The poor Jews. They have no place to go and they've been persecuted all their lives". They've never been persecuted for their religion. And I wish I had two rows of Rabbis here to challenge me. Never once, in all of history, have they been persecuted for their religion.

Do you know why the Jews were driven out of England? King Edward the First in 1285 drove them out, and they never came back until the Cromwell Revolution which was financed by the Rothschilds. For four-hundred years there wasn't a Jew. But do you know why they were driven out? Because in the Christian faith and the Moslem faith it's a sin to charge 'rent' for the use of money. In other words - what we call interest [usury] is a sin.

So the Jews had a monopoly in England and they charged so much interest, and when the Lords and Dukes couldn't pay, they [Jews] foreclosed. And they were creating so much trouble that the king of England finally made himself their partner, because when they they came to foreclose, some of these dukes bumped off the Jews. . . the money-lenders. So the king finally said -- and this is all in history, look up Tianson [Tennyson?] or Rourke, the History of the Jews in England; two books you can find in your library. When the king found out what the trouble was all about, and how much money they were making, he declared himself a fifty-percent partner of the money lenders. Edward the First. And for many years, one-third of the revenues of the British Treasury came from the fifty-percent interest in money-lending by the Jews.

But it got worse and worse. So much worse that when the Lords and Dukes kept killing the money-lenders, the King then said, "I declare myself the heir of all the money-lenders. If they're killed you have to pay me, because I'm his sole heir". That made so much trouble, because the King had to go out and collect the money with an army, so he told the Jews to get out. There were 15,000 of them, and they had to get out, and they went across to Ireland, and that's how Ireland got to be part of the United Kingdom.

When King Edward found out what they were doing, he decided to take Ireland for himself before someone else did. He sent Robert Southgard with a mercenary army and conquered Ireland. So, show me one time where a Jew was persecuted in any country because of his religion. It has never happened. It's always their impact on the political, social, or economic customs and traditions of the community in which they settle.

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[Question inaudible] Freedman: Yes, sir. Well, they say most of those things themselves. It was unnecessary for Benjamin Franklin to say it. Most of those things they say themselves. But Benjamin Franklin observed, and by hearsay understood, what was happening in Europe.

When Russia, in 920 was formed, and gradually surrounded the Khazar Kingdom, and absorbed them, most of the well-to-do Khazars fled to Western Europe and brought with them the very things to which you object and I object and a lot of other people object. The customs, the habits, the instincts with which they were endowed.

When Benjamin Franklin referred to them as Jews because that's the name that they went by, and when the Christians first heard that these people who were fleeing from Russia -- who they were -- that they had practiced this Talmudic faith -- the Christians in Western Europe said, "They must be the remnants of the lost ten tribes!"

And Mr. Grutz, the greatest historian amongst the Jews, said that -- and he's probably as good an authority on that subject as there is. So when Ben Franklin came to Europe in the 18th century, he already saw the results of what these people had done after they left their homeland. And every word of it is true... they say it themselves. I can give you half a dozen books they've written in which they say the same thing: When they have money they become tyrants. And when they become defeated, they become ruthless. They're only barbarians. They're the descendants of Asiatic Mongols and they will do anything to accomplish their purpose.

What right did they have to take over Russia the way they did? The Czar had abdicated nine or ten months before that. There was no need for them. . . they were going to have a constitutional monarchy. But they didn't want that. When the constitutional monarchy was to assemble in November, they mowed them all down and established the Soviet Union.

There was no need for that. But they thought, "Now is the time", and if you you will look in the Encyclopedia Britannica under the word 'Bolshevism', you'll find the five laws there that Lenin put down for a successful revolution. One of them is, "Wait for the right time, and then give them everything you've got". It would pay you to read that.

You'd also find that Mr. Harold Blacktree, who wrote the article for the Encyclopedia Britannica states that the Jews conceived and created and cultivated the Communist movement. And that their energy made them the spearhead of the movement. Harold Blacktree wrote it and no one knew more about Communism than he. And the Encyclopedia Britannica for 25 years has been printing it.

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[Question inaudible] Freedman: Well, I can't advocate that you do anything that's criminal, but I can tell you this. You can start what I call an endless chain. If you can get your friends to write, objectively, here is the statement: Mr. Kennedy's office gave me this himself. Mr. Smith, who succeeded Mr. Kennedy, took over his office -- was in his office -- and gave me this. He delivered this on the 25th, and it says here:

"For release to AM (that means morning papers), August 25th". "Israel is here to stay. It is a national commitment, special obligation of the Democratic Party. The White House must take the lead. American intervention. We will act promptly and decisively against any nation in the Middle East which attacks its neighbor. I propose that we make clear to both Israel and the Arab states our guarantee that we will act with whatever force and speed are necessary to halt any aggression by any nation".

Well, do you call the return of people to their homeland [the Arab Palestinians] aggression? Is Mr. Kennedy going to do that? Suppose three million Mexicans came into Texas and drove the six million Texans into the deserts of Arizona and New Mexico. Suppose these Mexicans were slipped in there armed -- the Texans were disarmed -- and one night they drove them all out of Texas and declared themselves the Republic of the Alamo. What would the United States say?

Would we say it's aggression for these Texans to try to get their homes back from the Mexican thieves? Suppose the Negroes in Alabama were secretly armed by the Soviets and overnight they rose up and drove all the whites into the swamps of Mississippi and Georgia and Florida. . . drove them out completely, and declared themselves the Republic of Ham, or the Republic of something-or-other. Would we call it aggression if these people, the whites of Alabama, tried to go back to their homes?

Would we. . . what would we think if the soviet Union said, "No, those Negroes now occupy them! Leave them there!", or "No, those Mexicans are in Texas. they declared themselves a sovereign state. Leave them there. You have plenty of room in Utah and Nevada. Settle somewhere else".

Would we call it aggression if the Alabama whites or the Texans wanted to go back to their homes? So now, you've go Thanks for posting. It's great to see others are aware of Benjamin Freedman. I wish every American could listen to what he had to say. Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

anarchyst , April 12, 2017 at 12:14 pm GMT \n
@NoseytheDuke Obviously a lot of people did perish in the camps as we've all seen footage countless times of piles of near-skeletal bodies being bulldozed into mass graves. It should be obvious to even a casual observer, if there could be such an individual, that these tragic deaths were clearly caused by starvation. This is seldom mentioned and all of these scenes took place towards the very end of the conflict after long range fuel tanks and the Norden bombsight had made possible accurate targeting of strategic supply lines causing massive starvation for everyone, but obviously much worse in the camps. Tragic every way one looks at it. You are correct. However, it was typhus–NOT "gas" there were no "gas chambers" in the camps the actual number of non-combatant deaths in the "European theater of operations" (camps included) was approximately 731,000 total NOT 6 million
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L.K , April 12, 2017 at 5:52 pm GMT \n
200 Words @NoseytheDuke Obviously a lot of people did perish in the camps as we've all seen footage countless times of piles of near-skeletal bodies being bulldozed into mass graves. It should be obvious to even a casual observer, if there could be such an individual, that these tragic deaths were clearly caused by starvation. This is seldom mentioned and all of these scenes took place towards the very end of the conflict after long range fuel tanks and the Norden bombsight had made possible accurate targeting of strategic supply lines causing massive starvation for everyone, but obviously much worse in the camps. Tragic every way one looks at it. Hello Nosey,
You are correct in that Allied strategic bombing of Germany as well as Germany's overall collapse at the end of the war brought about a tremendous worsening of the camps conditions.
However I should add that the near-skeletal bodies were often the result of various diseases which caused the prisoners to quickly loose weight.
For example, 'B. M. McKelway inspected Buchenwald shortly after the U.S. takeover as one of a group of American newspaper editors and publishers. He reported that " many of the hundreds of inmates we saw appeared to be healthy while others suffering from dysentery, typhus, tuberculosis and other diseases were living skeletons ."'
At Belsen, the situation had become so bad, that even after the British takeover, and despite the brits having the necessary food/medicine supplies(which the Germans did not), prisoners continued to die like flies. Nearly 30.000 perished under British control.
For me, interestingly, it was footage from these camps, which no serious historian today claims were 'death camps'( those were all allegedly in the areas taken by the Soviets), which had such a deep impact on me as a child and made me a 'believer' for so long until I found out the truth. Read More
L.K , April 12, 2017 at 5:54 pm GMT \n
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NoseytheDuke , April 13, 2017 at 12:08 am GMT \n
100 Words @L.K Hello Nosey,
You are correct in that Allied strategic bombing of Germany as well as Germany's overall collapse at the end of the war brought about a tremendous worsening of the camps conditions.
However I should add that the near-skeletal bodies were often the result of various diseases which caused the prisoners to quickly loose weight.
For example, 'B. M. McKelway inspected Buchenwald shortly after the U.S. takeover as one of a group of American newspaper editors and publishers. He reported that " many of the hundreds of inmates we saw appeared to be healthy while others suffering from dysentery, typhus, tuberculosis and other diseases were living skeletons ."'
At Belsen, the situation had become so bad, that even after the British takeover, and despite the brits having the necessary food/medicine supplies(which the Germans did not), prisoners continued to die like flies. Nearly 30.000 perished under British control.
For me, interestingly, it was footage from these camps, which no serious historian today claims were 'death camps'( those were all allegedly in the areas taken by the Soviets), which had such a deep impact on me as a child and made me a 'believer' for so long... until I found out the truth. I too accepted all of that which was shown to be true but it was the imprisonment of David Irving that made me question the accounts. I had never even read any of his books but to lock up a historian made no sense and I smelled a rodent(s).

There have always been both good and not so good historians but to criminalise a man for his views is an attack on free speech. Even now, to bring up the subject is to invite scorn and ridicule. Read More

Jonathan Revusky , Website April 13, 2017 at 6:14 pm GMT \n
300 Words @NoseytheDuke I too accepted all of that which was shown to be true but it was the imprisonment of David Irving that made me question the accounts. I had never even read any of his books but to lock up a historian made no sense and I smelled a rodent(s).

There have always been both good and not so good historians but to criminalise a man for his views is an attack on free speech. Even now, to bring up the subject is to invite scorn and ridicule.

it was the imprisonment of David Irving that made me question the accounts.

It's not just David Irving who was imprisoned for denying the gas chambers. Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zundel also. A French guy too, but his name escapes me. But also many people had their careers destroyed. (And in a couple of cases, the people groveled enough and were let off the hook, but then shut up about the topic.)

Amazon recently removed all the so-called Holocaust denial literature from their catalogue. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/03/11/amazon-holo/

What I find striking about all of this is that the Powers that Be are far more intent on persecuting so-called "Holocaust deniers" than 9/11 Truthers or JFK assassination researchers. They haven't banned any of those books. I'm pretty sure there are books claiming that the Clintons ordered various people assassinated and things like this that are still for sale on Amazon. You would think that all of these things would be much more sensitive topics than some discussion of what exactly happened in Auschwitz or Treblinka over 70 years ago. But no, it's the opposite! Taking things at face value, they really think that an intellectually honest discussion of WW2, particularly the Holocaust part, is a greater threat than something like 9/11 Truth!

Why is that?

I think this is a really key question to ponder and if you can begin to understand why this is so, then it breaks open one's a huge amount of the prior conditioning that exists in one's mental world. Read More Agree: L.K , Amanda

L.K , April 14, 2017 at 10:16 pm GMT \n
300 Words @Jonathan Revusky

it was the imprisonment of David Irving that made me question the accounts.
It's not just David Irving who was imprisoned for denying the gas chambers. Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zundel also. A French guy too, but his name escapes me. But also many people had their careers destroyed. (And in a couple of cases, the people groveled enough and were let off the hook, but then shut up about the topic.)

Amazon recently removed all the so-called Holocaust denial literature from their catalogue. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/03/11/amazon-holo/

What I find striking about all of this is that the Powers that Be are far more intent on persecuting so-called "Holocaust deniers" than 9/11 Truthers or JFK assassination researchers. They haven't banned any of those books. I'm pretty sure there are books claiming that the Clintons ordered various people assassinated and things like this that are still for sale on Amazon. You would think that all of these things would be much more sensitive topics than some discussion of what exactly happened in Auschwitz or Treblinka over 70 years ago. But no, it's the opposite! Taking things at face value, they really think that an intellectually honest discussion of WW2, particularly the Holocaust part, is a greater threat than something like 9/11 Truth!

Why is that?

I think this is a really key question to ponder and if you can begin to understand why this is so, then it breaks open one's a huge amount of the prior conditioning that exists in one's mental world. Hey Revusky,
Good to see you around!

"It's not just David Irving who was imprisoned for denying the gas chambers. Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zundel also. A French guy too"

In fact, there have been many others, besides the ones you mentioned! Heck, even grandmothers, as with Ursula Haverbeck. S.Alvarez wrote:

'Hamburg District Court, Nov. 11, 2015 - 87-year-old Ursula Haverbeck has been sentenced to imprisonment in Germany for doubting that people were "exterminated" by "gassing" in the Nazi concentration camp in Auschwitz.'

J.R: 'I think this is a really key question to ponder and if you can begin to understand why this is so, then it breaks open one's a huge amount of the prior conditioning that exists in one's mental world'

It did for me.

BtW, did you notice how the usual types started asking for Giraldi's pound of flesh for his asking the obvious question:

"In a number of European countries it is a crime to challenge the standard narrative on "the Holocaust." Why should that be? You can in much of Europe stand in a town square and say horrible things about your own country but if you criticize the factual basis of one particular "event" that took place in the 1940s you will go to jail."

Plus, Mr.Giraldi even had the temerity of placing quotation marks around the words "event" & "the Holocaust"! The usual hasbara types all demanded an 'explanation' from Giraldi
Take a look: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/aipac-is-back-in-town/

Say, are you working on something new for us?
Regards Read More

Jonathan Revusky , Website April 16, 2017 at 7:40 pm GMT \n
300 Words @L.K Hey Revusky,
Good to see you around!

"It's not just David Irving who was imprisoned for denying the gas chambers. Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zundel also. A French guy too"

In fact, there have been many others, besides the ones you mentioned! Heck, even grandmothers, as with Ursula Haverbeck. S.Alvarez wrote:


'Hamburg District Court, Nov. 11, 2015 - 87-year-old Ursula Haverbeck has been sentenced to imprisonment in Germany for doubting that people were "exterminated" by "gassing" in the Nazi concentration camp in Auschwitz.'
J.R: 'I think this is a really key question to ponder and if you can begin to understand why this is so, then it breaks open one's a huge amount of the prior conditioning that exists in one's mental world'

It did for me.

BtW, did you notice how the usual types started asking for Giraldi's pound of flesh for his asking the obvious question:


"In a number of European countries it is a crime to challenge the standard narrative on "the Holocaust." Why should that be? You can in much of Europe stand in a town square and say horrible things about your own country but if you criticize the factual basis of one particular "event" that took place in the 1940s you will go to jail."
Plus, Mr.Giraldi even had the temerity of placing quotation marks around the words "event" & "the Holocaust"! The usual hasbara types all demanded an 'explanation' from Giraldi...
Take a look: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/aipac-is-back-in-town/

Say, are you working on something new for us?
Regards

Heck, even grandmothers, as with Ursula Haverbeck.

Actually, I don't think they put Ursula in prison. I was curious about that and tried to find out, but I'm not 100% sure either. But she's like 87 years old, so it was problematic to actually send her to a penitentiary, I suppose. But they did sentence her to prison, that much is clearly true, but I think it's some form of suspended sentence in her case.

Actually, I remembered the name of the French guy I was referring to. That's Vincent Reynouard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Reynouard He's in his forties and served 9 months in prison for real apparently but the wiki page says he is living in England and can't go back to France where there is another 2 year sentence pending.

I don't know which is more amazing really:

(a) You can go to prison in much of Europe for simply expressing a view about an historical event, i.e. thought-crime.
(b) There is close to ZERO protest about it.

In a way, (b) is a more amazing, isn't it? Or another reformulation of it is: which is more amazing?

(a) the Judaeo-Zionist power structure is persecuting Holocaust revisionists and trying to imprison them and so on
(b) all the brainfucked goyim who collaborate with (a)

Again, I think (b) is more amazing than (a). And, even those who aren't actively collaborating, like judges and so forth sentencing people to prison for the thought-crimes, it's because all the rest of the goyim put up with this shit. I mean, if the German judge who sentenced Ursula Haverbeck to a prison sentence or the French judge who sentenced Vincent Reynouard were to become a social pariahs in Germany and respectively, then that would at least be a disincentive for that kind of Shabbas Goy to the bidding of the Zionists, right?

But somehow, it is only the Judaeics who can use excommunication and whatnot as a weapon of social pressure see what I mean? I'm just thinking out loud here it's a fascinating topic, no? Read More Reply Agree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments

Jonathan Revusky , Website April 16, 2017 at 10:00 pm GMT \n
400 Words @L.K Hey Revusky,
Good to see you around!

"It's not just David Irving who was imprisoned for denying the gas chambers. Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zundel also. A French guy too"

In fact, there have been many others, besides the ones you mentioned! Heck, even grandmothers, as with Ursula Haverbeck. S.Alvarez wrote:


'Hamburg District Court, Nov. 11, 2015 - 87-year-old Ursula Haverbeck has been sentenced to imprisonment in Germany for doubting that people were "exterminated" by "gassing" in the Nazi concentration camp in Auschwitz.'
J.R: 'I think this is a really key question to ponder and if you can begin to understand why this is so, then it breaks open one's a huge amount of the prior conditioning that exists in one's mental world'

It did for me.

BtW, did you notice how the usual types started asking for Giraldi's pound of flesh for his asking the obvious question:


"In a number of European countries it is a crime to challenge the standard narrative on "the Holocaust." Why should that be? You can in much of Europe stand in a town square and say horrible things about your own country but if you criticize the factual basis of one particular "event" that took place in the 1940s you will go to jail."
Plus, Mr.Giraldi even had the temerity of placing quotation marks around the words "event" & "the Holocaust"! The usual hasbara types all demanded an 'explanation' from Giraldi...
Take a look: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/aipac-is-back-in-town/

Say, are you working on something new for us?
Regards

Plus, Mr.Giraldi even had the temerity of placing quotation marks around the words "event" & "the Holocaust"! The usual hasbara types all demanded an 'explanation'

I noticed that Uncle Talha was in there too, absolutely intent on not saying anything controversial about the Big H topic. Like 9/11, he manages somehow to not really know anything about it. I assume that would always turn out to be the case for any sensitive topic - I mean sensitive for his Zionists masters. He would always tiptoe around it.

He really is like some Muslim (and I now think he really is a Muslim BTW) who has completely internalized the various Zionist-imposed limits of discourse. The whole Uncle Talha discourse is to accept every Zionist synthetic narrative and then say: "But I'm a sweet, good Muzzie, not the kind who flies planes into buildings and beheads people. Those are the bad, bad Muzzies ."

In some weird way, he might be sincere, in the sense that he really does believe that it is so terrible to be a "conspiracy theorist" and even worse to be a "Holocaust denier" and, in general, it is of maximal importance not to cross any of the lines in the sand that the Zionists have drawn. But it is really sort of disgusting to observe the way he is so psychologically dominated by these people. I earlier called him their "Pakistani poodle" and their "Muzzie mascot" and even the "Uncle Talha" label is nasty in itself, but I can't really take any of it back or anything. I think it's all accurate.

He goes along with every constructed blood-libel against Muslims, like 9/11 and all the rest, but then says he's a defender of Islam because he gets into arguments about stuff that was happening in the Middle Ages! That is such pure idiocy! He's like a guy who thinks he's a great poker player because everybody loves playing poker with him. "I must be a great Muslim because these Zionist shills all say so!" Like that poker player, it does not occur to him that if these people like you, you're probably doing something wrong!

All that said, it can be somewhat offputting to deal with their seething hostility. I mean, those guys like Shama and the rest really hate my guts. I can feel it. But I do then remind myself that that is a key sign that I must be doing something right!

Say, are you working on something new for us?

I'm trying to write a couple of different articles, but it does not come easy to me.

[Apr 22, 2017] Obscured American Rudy Dent a 9-11 First Responder - The Unz Review

Notable quotes:
"... I saw the contradiction in real time, absolutely. You know, I was there in 1993. I was inside the building with the FBI. I saw the immensity of that explosion. It was surreal. I mean, it was fully intended to bring down, to topple the building. It blew a hole in the ground, through the concrete, about three stories down. ..."
"... You know, they waited, then they did it again. In 2001, I was there to see the third building come down, and what caught my attention were not the explosions, because I'm used to explosions. I spent two and a half years in Vietnam, so I'm used to explosions, but when I saw my fellow firefighters jump in a panic reaction to the loud noise of an explosion, which they're not used to, and they're not trained for, that's what shocked me. My fellow firefighters, they're professional guys, but for the most part, they're not combat veterans, right? ..."
"... I looked at the building where the explosions came from, and that's when I saw building 7 come down. ..."
"... You know, the real simple thing anybody can see, from the start, is that if they look at Tower 1 or 2, it's disintegrating from the top down. It's being demolished, pulverized and blown up, from the top down, while the base remains solid. The difference with Building 7 is they blow it up from the bottom, and you see the whole building come down intact. That's something any layman can look at and say, "Wait a minute! Something's wrong here. Something is very, very wrong here." ..."
"... I spoke out right away, on FaceBook, then I met Richard Gage. That's when I started to speak out on behalf of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. ..."
"... Richard brought it to the public's attention. He broke into the mainstream and had them begrudgingly acknowledge that there was a Building 7. Otherwise, we would still not even know that Building 7 went down, so he was a key player. Given the legitimacy of Architects and Engineers, specifically focusing on their area of expertise, they could not be marginalized and dismissed. ..."
"... The mainstream media interviewed Richard only with the intent of luring him into a trap. That is, of having him make a comment such as, "Well, it's a conspiracy theory, you know," but he avoided every trick and trap they tried to lure him into, and he responded by saying, "That's a political assumption. We're not political. We are specialists in our area of expertise, and we're questioning the 9/11 Commission's findings." ..."
"... I don't know if you know this story, but Richard bought pizza for all of his associate architects, just to get them to come in and listen to him. Otherwise, nobody wanted to hear anything about "conspiracy theories," and against the government, no less. That's a big stretch and, you know, almost un-American. ..."
"... Being involved with this has cost me friends, family, health. You spend long hours researching it, and that's time you're not doing what you'd normally be doing. I used to be very physical. I used to like to do a lot of landscaping. Spending long hours sitting down, researching stuff, takes a toll on your eyes, and it's not good for your health. ..."
"... Friends, you know, who are still stuck in cognitive dissonance, you're at odds with them, and family. Just because they're family doesn't mean they'll go along with you. They're stuck where they are. ..."
"... It's a painful trip for everybody. People who've really gotten into researching 9/11, something didn't sit right with them, so somewhere along the line, they had a kind of trauma, you know, a trigger that got them into actually looking into it a bit further, and thinking for themselves. ..."
"... I conveyed my disbelief on the web, on FaceBook, but I knew what I was dealing with. Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing. I took my time and let my FaceBook friends get to know me. I would address it a little bit at a time, with a little bit of evidence. I'd impartially ask questions. If I went too far, I'd get a deafening silence, because nobody wanted to stick their neck out. It was like saying, "Yeah, I believe in flying saucers." It's a touchy subject that affects your credibility. ..."
"... I simply took it real slow. People got to know me then, finally, instead of a deafening silence, people started responding, adding more information, based on their own research. ..."
"... All these videos that were coming out, I'd share them. Now, if you go on the web, the information you're getting is phenomenal, so it's not even you sharing what you know, but you benefiting from other people sharing what they know. ..."
"... In the beginning, there were firefighters who were there telling what they saw, as survivors, but a lot of them went out with injuries, with lung problems. I had lung problems myself. We lost a lot of experienced firefighters from that day, and directly afterwards. There were guys who came down really sick. For about two or three months, I had all kinds of gray, black phlegm coming out of my lungs. ..."
"... We've got a new batch of firefighters who are trained and disciplined to follow orders and not question, so they follow the official line that's handed down the chain of command. This is what happened, this is what the 9/11 Commission said. That's it. They left it at that. ..."
"... As for the older guys, most of them are gone. They were forced to retire with lung problems and things like that. For the most part, 9/11 is not discussed in the firehouse. ..."
"... I sense, from talking to the guys, right there in the firehouse, that there's a morale problem. They're starting to understand that they have no protection from this new kind of, ah, sudden collapse syndrome. If it were to occur again, they would be expected to just charge into a building, as they did before, and put their lives on the line. ..."
"... The training in the New York City Fire Department is absolutely top notch. The people in the research of standard operational procedures are really the best you can get. They don't want any man to come back and haunt them for a lack of training, but here, you have a situation where there's no corrective measure to prevent a repeat of what happened. ..."
"... As with soldiers, there is no respect for firemen at all. You know Henry Kissinger. Did you see his famous quote? He said, "Soldiers are dumb, stupid animals to be used." ..."
"... As a result of that false flag operation, we lost more people on that day than we did at Pearl Harbor. Now, Pearl Harbor was also a false flag. We have broken the Japanese code, and we knew an attack was imminent. ..."
"... FDR had to comply with the wishes of the Zionists, you know, the Globalists' intent to start World War II. They needed a false flag, so Pearl Harbor was that false flag. From there, they got their World War II, and their myth of a six-million Holocaust. I researched that, and that's a complete lie. ..."
"... All you have to do is go to the International Red Cross and look at their detailed findings, because they had access to the so-called concentration camps, which were in fact work camps. Auschwitz itself, I've posted on that. There's a very good video called, "One Third of the Holocaust," and it explains all that. ..."
"... There's a lot going on. Right now, as a result of 9/11, we're sending off our sons and daughters to invade sovereign nations, based on preemptive strikes and false flags, to kill people we have more in common with than the people who are sending us. ..."
"... And they come back in boxes, they come back missing limbs, they come back with traumatic brain injury, post traumatic stress disorder, and currently committing suicide at the rate of 22 per day. You don't see that on the front page, where it should be, every day. So, that's another proof that the mainstream media is in the hands of the enemy, and it's not doing its job. ..."
"... It's all connected. It's all part of the big picture. I was arguing with an academic who was doing a detailed research on Hitler and how the Zionists funded his early beginning. OK, fine, that's all good and well, but if you're going to look at something, look at every relevant dimension of it. ..."
"... So anyway, I tried to explain that to him, and he said, "Well, what does my research have to do with America?" ..."
"... I said, "Really? Did you really ask me that?! And you're supposed to be intelligent?" ..."
"... In the time of the Renaissance, there were big, strong warriors who wore heavy armor and were hoisted by a pulley system onto the saddle of their Clydesdale, right? With their lance, very powerful, they were the tanks of their day. ..."
"... When they got injured, the procedure was to take a sword and put it in the fire until it got orange, then they laid it in the wound to cauterize it. There was no stitching or anything like that. It used to take ten men to try to hold that warrior down, until they discovered that all it took was a young, pretty maiden, you know. All she had to do was put her hand on the back of the warrior's wrist, and he wouldn't scream out, he wouldn't fight back, he would take it, right? ..."
"... Now, that's a good example of how we have been chained, and given a taboo in our brain against even daring to question the so-called Holocaust, their big cash cow. I'm here to tell you it is an outright, utter lie. ..."
"... In my town, I have a lot of good friends that are Jewish, and there are a lot of decent, good Jewish people who are no different than any of us. They work, they even go to war, pay their taxes, they're no different than us. They may not even be religious, they're secular, right? They just happen to be Jewish, but those same people are being used. ..."
"... In America, the population of Jewish people is 2%. Within that 2%, there are 4% who are the hardcore, extremist elements who are the policy makers, who run and control America. ..."
"... We have a sadly predictable, knee jerk reaction that's instilled in us, so that we feel compassion for the poor Jews who were actually burnt alive in an oven, and all the stories they put out, you know, when in fact, it was nothing but a cover story to cover the real atrocity that they committed, and the millions of people that they exterminated, and the fact that they were behind, that the Rothschild bankers were instigating, orchestrating and profiting from World War II. ..."
"... So it's all connected, and our minds have been polluted with over 70 years of indoctrination to actually believe this stuff, and see the world through our enemy's eyes, being incapable of seeing their lies. ..."
"... When we dare to venture into looking into that, we risk alienating a lot of friends. ..."
"... Living in my town, I saw what was being done by the Ultra Orthodox and Orthodox, the way they took over the town. As a police officer, I believed I could handle myself because I knew the laws, then I found out the laws were being circumvented by politicians who were bought and paid for by the bloc vote, the Ultra Orthodox Jews, a religious hate cult. ..."
"... A really good perspective is Henry Ford's book, and they bought it all up and destroyed as many as they could. Ford sponsored scholars to go around the world and study the Jewish issue, and they wrote a book called The International Jew, and that's what the problem is. ..."
"... This Zionist political movement is a globalist movement. They may be born in a country, grew up in it and even be successful in that country, as German Jews were, you know, but they have no loyalty to their hosts. ..."
"... After four years, I was happy to get out of the police department because I could see that the prison industrial complex was a profitable business, by design, just like the Holocaust industrial complex. ..."
"... It's a vicious, repetitious cycle where you have victims victimizing, and as long as you have an influx of perpetrators to use as slave labor, stamping out license plates, making lights and stuff like that, it's a profitable business. ..."
"... Why do you think all these entrepreneurs want to get private prisons and build them? One of them sued the state because they didn't provide him with enough prisoners. We don't care if they're innocent, go out and arrest them! ..."
"... Linh Dinh 's Postcards from the End of America has just been released by Seven Stories Press. He maintains an active photo blog . ..."
Apr 22, 2017 | www.unz.com
Obscured American: Rudy Dent a 9-11 First Responder Linh Dinh April 9, 2017 2,900 Words 121 Comments Reply Rudy Dent in Detroit, 2017 Jump To... Content Top Bottom Section Prev Current Next Bookmark Toggle All ToC Remove from Library Add to Library Bookmarks On February 18th, I was in Detroit to attend a presentation , "The War on Islam: 9/11 Revisited, Uncovered & Exposed." Sponsored by the Nation of Islam , it featured Kevin Barrett, Richard Gage and Christopher Bollyn.

Prefacing, Ilia Rashad Muhammad remarked that 9/11 is more relevant than ever, since it has been used to curb the freedoms of all Americans, especially Muslims. Moreover, it has "literally impacted America, and the world, like never before." As a pretext for endless war, 9/11 hasn't just deformed this whole earth, it threatens to destroy it.

Reminding us that false flags are far from unusual, Kevin Barrett cited 10 famous examples from history: Nero allegedly burning Rome; Gunpowder Plot; sinking of the USS Maine; sending of the Lusitania, a passenger ship loaded with explosives, into a war zone; Pearl Harbor; Gulf of Tonkin Incident; Israel's attack on the USS Liberty; bombing of the USS Cole; 1993 World Trade Center bombing; all the post 9-11 false flags, including Orlando, Charlie Hebdo and the ones in Paris in November of 2015, etc.; 9/11.

Richard Gage patiently proved that the collapse of all three WTC buildings couldn't have been caused by fire. He paid particular attention to Building 7, which was hit by no plane and suffered almost no damage before it collapsed, at free fall speed, into its own footprint. Gage stated that nano-thermite was found in WTC dust samples, and asked why 163,000 tons of concrete pulverized in mid-air? His organization, the 2,500-strong Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, simply wants a proper investigation into what happened.

Christopher Bollyn began by thanking Louis Farrakhan as "the only religious leader in our nation who has addressed the gigantic, horrendous fraud of 9/11." Then:

9/11 was carried out to kick start the War on Terror, a Zionist war agenda of aggression, terrorism and conquest which continues to this day [...] We will not have peace as a nation, or a world, if we continue to accept the deception of 9/11 [...] If the government and media are lying to us about 9/11, it means that they are controlled by the very same people who carried out 9/11 [...] Both 9/11 and the War on Terror were conceived and planned in Israel in the 1970's by Israeli military intelligence [...] The War on Terror is an Israeli stratagem, a ploy pushed by Netanyahu-since 1979-to trick the United States into waging war against Israel's enemies.

With the 1979 Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism, the book Terrorism: How the West Can Win and speech after speech, Netanyahu's central project is the War on Terror. Bollyn pointed out the absurdity of Bibi's stance considering that Israel was founded on terror, is maintained by terror, and had a master terrorist, Menachim Begin, as one of its prime ministers.

All three speakers were raptly received by an audience of about two thousand, all but a dozen of them Black Muslims. Mingling afterwards, I met Rudy Dent , a retired fireman, ex cop and Vietnam vet. Flying from NYC, Dent was only in Detroit for a few hours.

This mild, affable man is known for an InfoWars interview , conducted in Times Square on September 11th, 2014. It already has 2.4 million views. Dent spoke of firemen being in Building 7 "calling for additional hand lines to mop up the isolated pockets of fire." Because no skyscrapers had ever collapse due to fire, they never suspected this 52-story building would suddenly become their tomb.

Explaining that fire cannot, by itself, burn hot enough to melt steel, Dent related:

What we had in the WorldTradeCenter, and I saw myself, was molten, lava-like pockets of molten steel, all right? I spent the night on the pile searching for bodies, and I saw that with my own eyes. So who are you going to believe? Are you going to believe a bunch of government bureaucrats, or my fellow brothers, which I lost 343 guys that day? And I lost Tommy O'Hagan, Bruce van Hines and Kenny Cumple, and I can never forget that. I think of that before I go to bed. I think about it first thing in the morning when I wake up, and it's in honor of them and their family that I will continue to do everything I can to make the rest of the world wake up to the fact that this was a false flag operation.

In Detroit, I tagged along as Dent was driven to the airport. We talked about his life, world view and, of course, experience of 9/11.

I saw the contradiction in real time, absolutely. You know, I was there in 1993. I was inside the building with the FBI. I saw the immensity of that explosion. It was surreal. I mean, it was fully intended to bring down, to topple the building. It blew a hole in the ground, through the concrete, about three stories down.

You know, they waited, then they did it again. In 2001, I was there to see the third building come down, and what caught my attention were not the explosions, because I'm used to explosions. I spent two and a half years in Vietnam, so I'm used to explosions, but when I saw my fellow firefighters jump in a panic reaction to the loud noise of an explosion, which they're not used to, and they're not trained for, that's what shocked me. My fellow firefighters, they're professional guys, but for the most part, they're not combat veterans, right?

I looked at the building where the explosions came from, and that's when I saw building 7 come down.

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You know, the real simple thing anybody can see, from the start, is that if they look at Tower 1 or 2, it's disintegrating from the top down. It's being demolished, pulverized and blown up, from the top down, while the base remains solid. The difference with Building 7 is they blow it up from the bottom, and you see the whole building come down intact. That's something any layman can look at and say, "Wait a minute! Something's wrong here. Something is very, very wrong here."

I spoke out right away, on FaceBook, then I met Richard Gage. That's when I started to speak out on behalf of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

Richard brought it to the public's attention. He broke into the mainstream and had them begrudgingly acknowledge that there was a Building 7. Otherwise, we would still not even know that Building 7 went down, so he was a key player. Given the legitimacy of Architects and Engineers, specifically focusing on their area of expertise, they could not be marginalized and dismissed.

The mainstream media interviewed Richard only with the intent of luring him into a trap. That is, of having him make a comment such as, "Well, it's a conspiracy theory, you know," but he avoided every trick and trap they tried to lure him into, and he responded by saying, "That's a political assumption. We're not political. We are specialists in our area of expertise, and we're questioning the 9/11 Commission's findings."

I don't know if you know this story, but Richard bought pizza for all of his associate architects, just to get them to come in and listen to him. Otherwise, nobody wanted to hear anything about "conspiracy theories," and against the government, no less. That's a big stretch and, you know, almost un-American.

Being involved with this has cost me friends, family, health. You spend long hours researching it, and that's time you're not doing what you'd normally be doing. I used to be very physical. I used to like to do a lot of landscaping. Spending long hours sitting down, researching stuff, takes a toll on your eyes, and it's not good for your health.

Friends, you know, who are still stuck in cognitive dissonance, you're at odds with them, and family. Just because they're family doesn't mean they'll go along with you. They're stuck where they are.

It's a painful trip for everybody. People who've really gotten into researching 9/11, something didn't sit right with them, so somewhere along the line, they had a kind of trauma, you know, a trigger that got them into actually looking into it a bit further, and thinking for themselves.

I conveyed my disbelief on the web, on FaceBook, but I knew what I was dealing with. Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing. I took my time and let my FaceBook friends get to know me. I would address it a little bit at a time, with a little bit of evidence. I'd impartially ask questions. If I went too far, I'd get a deafening silence, because nobody wanted to stick their neck out. It was like saying, "Yeah, I believe in flying saucers." It's a touchy subject that affects your credibility.

I simply took it real slow. People got to know me then, finally, instead of a deafening silence, people started responding, adding more information, based on their own research.

All these videos that were coming out, I'd share them. Now, if you go on the web, the information you're getting is phenomenal, so it's not even you sharing what you know, but you benefiting from other people sharing what they know.

In the beginning, there were firefighters who were there telling what they saw, as survivors, but a lot of them went out with injuries, with lung problems. I had lung problems myself. We lost a lot of experienced firefighters from that day, and directly afterwards. There were guys who came down really sick. For about two or three months, I had all kinds of gray, black phlegm coming out of my lungs.

We've got a new batch of firefighters who are trained and disciplined to follow orders and not question, so they follow the official line that's handed down the chain of command. This is what happened, this is what the 9/11 Commission said. That's it. They left it at that.

As for the older guys, most of them are gone. They were forced to retire with lung problems and things like that. For the most part, 9/11 is not discussed in the firehouse.

I sense, from talking to the guys, right there in the firehouse, that there's a morale problem. They're starting to understand that they have no protection from this new kind of, ah, sudden collapse syndrome. If it were to occur again, they would be expected to just charge into a building, as they did before, and put their lives on the line.

The training in the New York City Fire Department is absolutely top notch. The people in the research of standard operational procedures are really the best you can get. They don't want any man to come back and haunt them for a lack of training, but here, you have a situation where there's no corrective measure to prevent a repeat of what happened.

As with soldiers, there is no respect for firemen at all. You know Henry Kissinger. Did you see his famous quote? He said, "Soldiers are dumb, stupid animals to be used."

As a result of that false flag operation, we lost more people on that day than we did at Pearl Harbor. Now, Pearl Harbor was also a false flag. We have broken the Japanese code, and we knew an attack was imminent.

FDR had to comply with the wishes of the Zionists, you know, the Globalists' intent to start World War II. They needed a false flag, so Pearl Harbor was that false flag. From there, they got their World War II, and their myth of a six-million Holocaust. I researched that, and that's a complete lie.

All you have to do is go to the International Red Cross and look at their detailed findings, because they had access to the so-called concentration camps, which were in fact work camps. Auschwitz itself, I've posted on that. There's a very good video called, "One Third of the Holocaust," and it explains all that.

ORDER IT NOW

There's a lot going on. Right now, as a result of 9/11, we're sending off our sons and daughters to invade sovereign nations, based on preemptive strikes and false flags, to kill people we have more in common with than the people who are sending us.

And they come back in boxes, they come back missing limbs, they come back with traumatic brain injury, post traumatic stress disorder, and currently committing suicide at the rate of 22 per day. You don't see that on the front page, where it should be, every day. So, that's another proof that the mainstream media is in the hands of the enemy, and it's not doing its job.

It's all connected. It's all part of the big picture. I was arguing with an academic who was doing a detailed research on Hitler and how the Zionists funded his early beginning. OK, fine, that's all good and well, but if you're going to look at something, look at every relevant dimension of it.

So anyway, I tried to explain that to him, and he said, "Well, what does my research have to do with America?"

I said, "Really? Did you really ask me that?! And you're supposed to be intelligent?"

In the time of the Renaissance, there were big, strong warriors who wore heavy armor and were hoisted by a pulley system onto the saddle of their Clydesdale, right? With their lance, very powerful, they were the tanks of their day.

When they got injured, the procedure was to take a sword and put it in the fire until it got orange, then they laid it in the wound to cauterize it. There was no stitching or anything like that. It used to take ten men to try to hold that warrior down, until they discovered that all it took was a young, pretty maiden, you know. All she had to do was put her hand on the back of the warrior's wrist, and he wouldn't scream out, he wouldn't fight back, he would take it, right?

Now, that's a good example of how we have been chained, and given a taboo in our brain against even daring to question the so-called Holocaust, their big cash cow. I'm here to tell you it is an outright, utter lie.

In my town, I have a lot of good friends that are Jewish, and there are a lot of decent, good Jewish people who are no different than any of us. They work, they even go to war, pay their taxes, they're no different than us. They may not even be religious, they're secular, right? They just happen to be Jewish, but those same people are being used.

In America, the population of Jewish people is 2%. Within that 2%, there are 4% who are the hardcore, extremist elements who are the policy makers, who run and control America.

We have a sadly predictable, knee jerk reaction that's instilled in us, so that we feel compassion for the poor Jews who were actually burnt alive in an oven, and all the stories they put out, you know, when in fact, it was nothing but a cover story to cover the real atrocity that they committed, and the millions of people that they exterminated, and the fact that they were behind, that the Rothschild bankers were instigating, orchestrating and profiting from World War II.

So it's all connected, and our minds have been polluted with over 70 years of indoctrination to actually believe this stuff, and see the world through our enemy's eyes, being incapable of seeing their lies.

When we dare to venture into looking into that, we risk alienating a lot of friends.

Living in my town, I saw what was being done by the Ultra Orthodox and Orthodox, the way they took over the town. As a police officer, I believed I could handle myself because I knew the laws, then I found out the laws were being circumvented by politicians who were bought and paid for by the bloc vote, the Ultra Orthodox Jews, a religious hate cult.

A really good perspective is Henry Ford's book, and they bought it all up and destroyed as many as they could. Ford sponsored scholars to go around the world and study the Jewish issue, and they wrote a book called The International Jew, and that's what the problem is.

This Zionist political movement is a globalist movement. They may be born in a country, grew up in it and even be successful in that country, as German Jews were, you know, but they have no loyalty to their hosts.

After four years, I was happy to get out of the police department because I could see that the prison industrial complex was a profitable business, by design, just like the Holocaust industrial complex.

It's a vicious, repetitious cycle where you have victims victimizing, and as long as you have an influx of perpetrators to use as slave labor, stamping out license plates, making lights and stuff like that, it's a profitable business.

Why do you think all these entrepreneurs want to get private prisons and build them? One of them sued the state because they didn't provide him with enough prisoners. We don't care if they're innocent, go out and arrest them!

Linh Dinh 's Postcards from the End of America has just been released by Seven Stories Press. He maintains an active photo blog .

[Jan 14, 2017] Position Statement in support of a new investigation into the total collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 on September 11, 2001

Sponsors: Daniel Barnum, FAIA and Fifty Members of the Institute

Intent: To adopt a Position Statement in support of a new investigation into the total collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 on September 11, 2001.

Text of Resolution

WHEREAS, according to the AIA Public Policies and Position Statements, architects are professionally obligated to use their knowledge, skill, and experience to engage in civic life; and

WHEREAS, World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7), a 47-story, steel-framed high-rise building, suffered a total collapse at 5:20 PM on the afternoon of September 11, 2001; and

WHEREAS, the cause of the collapse of WTC 7 has become the subject of vigorous public debate, such that establishing the true cause of the collapse
of WTC 7 is of great civic importance; and|

WHEREAS, the cause of the collapse of WTC 7 has become the subject of vigorous public debate, such that establishing the true cause of the collapse of WTC 7 is of great civic importance; and

WHEREAS, prior to and since September 11, 2001, no steel-framed high-rise building has ever suffered a total collapse, except buildings demolished through the procedure known as controlled demolition; and

WHEREAS, the collapse of WTC 7 exemplified many of the signature features of controlled demolition, including:

WHEREAS, first responders and bystanders reported explosions and other phenomena suggestive of controlled demolition immediately prior to and during the collapse of WTC 7, as exemplified in the following account by a first-year NYU medical student identified as "Darryl" on 1010 Wins Radio: "[W]e heard this sound that sounded like a clap of thunder. Turned around. We were shocked to see that the building was, uh Well, it looked like there was a shockwave ripping through the building and the windows all busted out. It was horrifying. And then about a second later the bottom floor caved out and the building followed after that"; and

WHEREAS, a CNN video captured both the sound of an explosion coming from WTC 7 and the following statements prior to the onset of the collapse:

Unidentified voice: "You hear that?"

Voice of emergency worker #1: "Keep your eye on that building. It'll be coming down soon."

Voice of emergency worker #2: "Building is about to blow up, move it back . We are walking back, there's a building about to blow up. Flame and debris coming down"; and

WHEREAS, numerous experts in controlled demolition and structural engineering have attested that the collapse of WTC 7 could have only been caused by controlled demolition, as exemplified in the following statement made by Dutch demolition expert Danny Jowenko after viewing video of the collapse: "This is controlled demolition . It's been imploded. It's a hired job, done by a team of experts"; and

WHEREAS, in spite of the fact that WTC 7 had only few, small, and scattered fires and modest structural damage, the NYC Office of Emergency Management and the New York Fire Department predicted the collapse of WTC 7 with extraordinary confidence and precision, deciding to establish a safety zone around WTC 7 early in the afternoon and waiting several hours in anticipation of the building's collapse; and

WHEREAS, local authorities were so certain of WTC 7's eventual collapse that anticipation of the collapse was widely reported in the media, as exemplified by MSNBC's Ashleigh Banfield, who reported, "I've heard several reports from several different officers now that that is the building that is gonna go down next. In fact, one officer told me they're just waiting for that to come down at this point" - and by the BBC, who erroneously began reporting the collapse 23 minutes before it actually occurred; and

WHEREAS, in spite of the fact that local authorities predicted the collapse of WTC 7 with extraordinary confidence and precision, investigators for the Building Performance Study, conducted by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE), were "stunned" by the collapse of WTC 7 and concluded in May 2002: "The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. Although the total diesel fuel on the premises contained massive potential energy, the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence"; and

WHEREAS, three and a half years after the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) began its investigation into the World Trade Center disaster, NIST's lead investigator, Dr. Shyam Sunder, stated that NIST had some "preliminary hypotheses," but conceded, "[T]ruthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on building No. 7"; and

WHEREAS, NIST finally concluded in its 2008 report that the collapse of WTC 7 was caused by "normal office fires," thus abandoning earlier hypotheses that diesel fuel fires or structural damage caused the collapse; and

WHEREAS, according to NIST, the fires that it alleges triggered the total collapse of WTC 7 burned at temperatures "hundreds of degrees below those typically considered in design practice for establishing structural fire resistance ratings"; and

WHEREAS, NIST neglected to examine steel from WTC 7 with a "Swiss cheese appearance" that had been attacked by molten iron - as documented in Appendix C of the FEMA/ASCE Building Performance Study - and instead falsely alleged that no identifiable steel was recovered from WTC 7; and

WHEREAS, in its draft report for public comment, NIST falsely denied that WTC 7 entered free fall, and then acknowledged the occurrence of free fall in its final report, but falsely alleged that the occurrence of free fall was consistent with its computer model, which, in fact, does not show a period of free fall, nor does it come close to replicating the observed collapse; and

WHEREAS, NIST's computer model omitted critical structural features of WTC 7, which, in the opinion of independent engineers, had they been included, the computer model would have shown that NIST's alleged collapse initiation mechanism had zero probability of occurring; and

WHEREAS, NIST has refused to release key portions of its modeling data to engineers studying the collapse of WTC 7, claiming that to do so "might jeopardize public safety"; and

WHEREAS, thousands of members of the architecture and engineering professions, including the 97 sponsors of this resolution, believe there is sufficient evidence contradicting NIST's explanation of the collapse of WTC 7 to warrant a new investigation.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the AIA Board of Directors shall commence the process to adopt a Position Statement, to be published in the AIA Directory of Public Policies and Position Statements, stating both:

 The AIA's belief that incidents involving the catastrophic failure of buildings and other structures must be investigated using the highest standards of science-based investigation and analysis; and

 The AIA's support for a new investigation into the total collapse of WTC 7.

[Nov 04, 2016] The 11th Anniversary of 9/11

Nov 04, 2016 | www.unz.com

Anon

October 25, 2016 at 9:25 pm GMT • 100 Words

The 11th Anniversary of 9/11 ~ Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/09/11/the-11th-anniversary-911-paul-craig-roberts/

9/11 and the Orwellian Redefinition of "Conspiracy Theory"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/9-11-and-the-orwellian-redefinition-of-conspiracy-theory/25339

9/11 After 13 years
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/09/10/911-13-years-paul-craig-roberts/

The Tide is Turning: The Official Story Is Now The Conspiracy Theory - Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/09/07/the-tide-is-turning-the-official-story-is-now-the-conspiracy-theory-paul-craig-roberts/

No Airliner Black Boxes Found at the World Trade Center? Senior Officials Dispute Official 9/11 Claim
http://www.globalresearch.ca/no-airliner-black-boxes-found-at-the-world-trade-center-senior-officials-dispute-official-911-claim/5400891

[Nov 04, 2016] 9-11 Truth - The Unz Review

Oct 25, 2016 | The Unz Review

For the first time a presidential candidate, admittedly from a fringe party, is calling for a reexamination of 9/11. Jill Stein of the Green Party has recognized that exercises in which the United States government examines its own behavior are certain to come up with a result that basically exonerates the politicians and the federal bureaucracy. This has been the case since the Warren Commission report on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, which, inter alia, failed to thoroughly investigate key players like Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby and came up with a single gunman scenario in spite of considerable evidence to the contrary.

When it comes to 9/11, I have been reluctant to enter the fray largely because I do not have the scientific and technical chops to seriously assess how buildings collapse or how a large passenger airliner might be completely consumed by a fire. In my own area, of expertise, which is intelligence, I have repeatedly noted that the Commission investigators failed to look into the potential foreign government involvement in the events that took place that day. Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan just for starters may have been involved in or had knowledge relating to 9/11 but the only investigation that took place, insofar as I can determine, was a perfunctory look at the possible Saudi role, the notorious 28 pages, which have recently been released in a redacted form.

A friend recently recommended that I take a look at a film on 9/11 that was first produced back in 2005. It is called Loose Change 9/11 and is available on Amazon Video or in DVD form as well as elsewhere in a number of updated versions. The first version reportedly provides the most coherent account, though the later updates certainly are worth watching, add significantly to the narrative, and are currently more accessible.

Loose Change is an examination of the inconsistencies in the standard 9/11 narrative, a subject that has been thoroughly poked and prodded in a number of other documentaries and books, but it benefits from the immediacy of the account and the fresh memories of the participants in the events who were interviewed by the documentary's director Dylan Avery starting in 2004. It also includes a bit of a history lesson for the average viewer, recalling Hitler's Reichstag fire, Pearl Harbor and the Gulf of Tonkin incident, all of which were essentially fraudulent and led to the assumption of emergency powers by the respective heads of state.

The underlying premise of most 9/11 revisionism is that the United States government, or at least parts of it, is capable of almost anything. Loose Change describes how leading hawkish Republicans were, as early as 2000, pushing to increase U.S. military capabilities so that the country would be able to fight multi-front wars. The signatories of the neocon Project for the New American Century paper observed that was needed was a catalyst to produce a public demand to "do something," that "something" being an event comparable to Pearl Harbor. Seventeen signatories of the document wound up in senior positions in the Bush Administration.

The new Pearl Harbor turned out to be 9/11. Given developments since 9/11 itself, to include the way the U.S. has persisted in going to war and the constant search for enemies worldwide to justify our own form of Deep State government, I would, to a large extent, have to believe that PNAC was either prescient or perhaps, more diabolically, actively engaged in creating a new reality.

That is not to suggest that either then or now most federal employees in the national security industry were part of some vast conspiracy but rather an indictment of the behavior and values of those at the top of the food chain, people who are characteristically singularly devoid of any ethical compass and base their decisions largely on personal and peer group ambition.

9/11 Truthers are characteristically very passionate about their beliefs, which is part of their problem in relating to a broader public. They frequently demand full adherence to their version of what passes for reality. In my own experience of more than twenty years on the intelligence side of government I have frequently found that truth is in fact elusive, often lying concealed in conflicting narratives. This is, I believe, the strength of Loose Change as it identifies and challenges inconsistencies in the established account without pontificating and, even though it has a definite point of view and draws conclusions, it avoids going over to the dark side and speculating on any number of the wilder "what-if" scenarios.

I recommend that readers watch Loose Change as it runs through discussions of U.S. military exercises and inexplicable stand-downs that occurred on 9/11, together with convincing accounts of engineering and technical issues related to how the World Trade Center and WTC7 collapsed. Particularly intriguing are the initial eyewitness accounts from the site of the alleged downing of UA 93 in Pennsylvania, a hole in the ground that otherwise showed absolutely no evidence of a plane having actually crashed. Nor have I ever seen any traces of a plane in photos taken at the Pentagon point of impact.

The film describes the subsequent investigative failures that took place, perhaps deliberately and arranged from inside the government, and concludes that the event amounts to an "American coup" which changed the United States both in terms of its domestic liberties and its foreign policy. After watching the film, one must accept that there are numerous inconsistencies that emerge from any examination of the standard narrative promoted by the 9/11 Commission and covered up by every White House since 2001. The film calls the existing corpus of government investigations into 9/11 a lie, a conclusion that I would certainly agree with.

The consequences of 9/11 are indeed more important than the event itself. Even those who have come to accept the established narrative would have to concede that "that day of infamy" changed America for the worse, as the film notes. While the United States government had previously engaged in illegal activity directed against for suspected spies, terrorists and a variety of international criminals, wholesale surveillance of what amounts to the entire population of the country was a new development brought in by the Patriot Acts. And, for the first time, secret prisons were set up overseas and citizens were arrested without being charged and held indefinitely. Under the authority of the Military Commissions Act tribunals were established to try those individuals who were suspected of being material supporters of terrorism, "material supporters" being loosely interpreted to make arrest, prosecution and imprisonment easier.

More recently, executive authority based on the anti-terror legislation has been used to execute American citizens overseas and, under the Authorization to Use Military Force, to attack suspects in a number of countries with which the United States is not at war. This all takes place with hardly a squeak from Congress or from the media. And when citizens object to any or all of the above they are blocked from taking action in the courts by the government's invocation of State Secrets Privilege, claiming that judicial review would reveal national secrets. Many believe that the United States has now become a precursor police state, all as a result of 9/11 and the so-called War on Terror which developed from that event.

So who benefited from 9/11? Clearly the executive branch of the government itself, which has seen an enormous expansion in its power and control over both the economy and people's lives, but there are also other entities like the military industrial complex, the Pentagon and intelligence agencies, and the financial services sector, all of which have gained considerably from the anti-terror largesse coming from the American taxpayer. Together these entities constitute an American Deep State, which controls both government and much of the private sector without ever being mentioned or seriously contested.

Suggesting government connivance in the events of 9/11 inevitably raises the question of who exactly might have ordered or carried out the attacks if they were in fact not fully and completely the work of a handful of Arab hijackers? The film suggests that one should perhaps consider the possibility of a sophisticated "false flag" operation, by which we mean that the apparent perpetrators of the act were not, in fact, the drivers or originators of what took place. Blowing up huge buildings and causing them to pancake from within, if indeed that is what took place, is the work of governments, not of a handful of terrorists. Only two governments would have had that capability, the United States itself and also Israel, unfortunately mentioned only once in passing in the film, a state player heavily engaged in attempting to bring America into its fight with the Arab world, with Benjamin Netanyahu subsequently saying that "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq swung American public opinion in our favor."

To be honest I would prefer not to think that 9/11 might have been an inside job, but I am now convinced that a new 9/11 Commission is in order, one that is not run and guided by the government itself. If it can be demonstrated that the attacks carried out on that day were quite possibly set up by major figures both inside and outside the political establishment it might produce such a powerful reaction that the public would demand a reversal of the laws and policies that have so gravely damaged our republic. It is admittedly unlikely that anything like that could ever take place, but it is at least something to hope for.

NosytheDuke, October 25, 2016 at 4:36 am GMT • 100 Words

Only by constantly repeating to all and sundry the blatant falsehoods, frauds and meddling that are evident which absolutely contradict the official narrative of what happened can a tipping point be reached and the demands for a new, open and independent investigation be the unavoidable topic in political and social life.

Only after a new, open and independent investigation and a ruthless holding to account of those responsible has taken place can America go about its business of being great because it is good. Good luck with that.

3.MarkinLA, October 25, 2016 at 4:39 am GMT • 200 Words

Remember Korean Air flight 007. At that time the conspiracy theory was that the US and South Korean governments got the pilot to invade Soviet air space while the Space Shuttle was in the vicinity along with the electronic surveillance plane that crossed KAL007′s path in order to light up USSR air defenses and collect data.

Whether it was true or not, the Reagan administration used it to vilify the USSR and push it's hawkish agenda.

9/11 doesn't have to have been done by the government for Deep State entities to take advantage. Any preplanning of what to do afterward could also be explained by them knowing what was going to happen (ala Pearl Harbor) and letting it happen. There were plenty of intelligence reports in the commission proceedings that have indicated something was up but not acted upon. They didn't have an admiral they could blame like they did at Pearl so the whole system was blamed which made expanding the security apparatus so much easier.

Brabantian, Website

October 25, 2016 at 8:59 am GMT • 300 Words

In the European press, Italy's President Francesco Cossiga exposed that the NYC towers destruction of 11 September 2001 was done by the USA & Israel's Mossad , and that all Europe's governments know this

Too few people know, that the New York Times itself, a few weeks before the NYC towers fell, photographed 'Israeli art students' (!) working in-between the walls of the those towers, amidst stacks of boxes with certain markings which … identify the box contents as components of bomb detonators
World Trade Center's Infamous 91st-Floor Israeli 'Art Student' Project

Also, too few people know that Osama Bin Laden himself denied being involved in the 11 Sep. 2001 NYC towers destruction, & that the 'Osama Bin Laden' videos & tapes shown for several years afterwards, are clearly-proven fakes with actors

The claimed discoverer of those 'bin Laden' videos & tapes – allegedly scouring the 'Jihadi YouTubes' for material no one else 'finds' – is Israeli-American Rita Katz of the laughable 'SITE' – 'Search for International Terrorist Entities'

Dissident US military-intel veterans tell us:

" The truth about [Osama] Bin Laden, that his last known communication was December 3rd, 2001, received by the CIA / NSA intercept facility in Doha, in which he accused American Neocons of staging 9-11.

" This was less than two weeks before his death, as reported in Egypt, Pakistan, India, Iran and even by Fox News, until Rita Katz brought him back to life in the guise of a Mercedes repair shop owner of Somali parentage living in Haifa, Israel.

" The new short, fat Bin Laden, who lost his ability to speak Oxford English, continued to drop audio tapes in the dumpster behind Katz's Brooklyn apartment for years, until his frozen corpse was dumped into the Indian Ocean. "

- Gordon Duff, Veterans Today

Hans Vogel, October 25, 2016 at 9:07 am GMT

If I recall correctly, it was Thierry Meyssan who in 2002 in his book La terrible imposture first suggested that 9/11 was a coup. John Kerry's brother-in-law Sarkozy later forced Meyssan into exile, because he was becoming a nuisance to the US and their French puppets.

AmericaFirstNow , October 25, 2016 at 11:59 am GMT
@AmericaFirstNow 9/11 Motive & Media Betrayal :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95ncn5Q16N4&list=PL3C32560738EF3C30&feature=plpp

For actual 9/11 truth about how fire brought down Building 7 as well see the links at following URL:

http://america-hijacked.com/2011/07/14/alan-sabrosky-911-interview-with-press-tv-host-susan-modaress/

Rehmat, October 25, 2016 at 12:35 pm GMT • 200 Words

Dr. Giraldi is missing the point. While Washington and Zionist-controlled mainstream media had blamed the Taliban, Pakistan, Iran, and lately Saudi Arabia – they never mentioned the 800-pound Gorilla – the Zionist regime.

The most vilified person had been head of Pakistan's intelligence chief, Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul, who pointed his finger to Israel Mossad two weeks after the 9/11 – even before media ridiculously blamed Osama Bin Laden in order to invade and occupy Afghanistan – a country which did not had a single tank, helicopter, fighter jet or even a commercial plane to defend itself from the so-called ONLY WORLD POWER.

Hamid Gul's claim on September 26, 2001, is now supported by thousands of scientists, scholars, politicians, architects and even a Jewish member of the so-called 9/11 COMISSION, Philip Zelikow (Zionist Jew) admitted in 2004 that America invaded Iraq in 2003 because Saddam Hussein became an existential threat to the Zionist entity.

In December 2001, US historian Michael Collins Piper claimed that the so-called "19 Arab hijackers" could have been Israeli agents.

On September 10, 2016, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts posted an article, entitled, 9/11: 15 years of a transparent lie.

https://rehmat1.com/2015/08/17/gen-hamid-gul-the-muslim-soparno-dies/

Fred Reed , October 25, 2016 at 2:22 pm GMT

Nine-Eleven Conspiracy Exam (Note: This was written when Israel was the most popular culprit. Some questions may need to be changed to reflect changes in guilt. Failure to answer all questions will result in a grade of F.)

Diogenes, October 25, 2016 at 2:24 pm GMT

9/11 was an amazing sociological event for what it can tell us about human psychology. The vast majority of people uncritically swallowed the official explanation, a few critical observers cast suspicions on the official story, then a group of chronically suspicious people, known as conspiracy theorists, who believe the government cannot be trusted had a cause celebre, then a group of anti conspiracy theorists and pro-government reactionaries devoted their energies to discredit the 9/11 Truthers while the vast majority of people are as a result confused and paralyzed into indecision and apathy. I will take note of who in these comments are 9/11 naysayers and observe what they say about other controversial topics!

Rurik , October 25, 2016 at 2:55 pm GMT

The underlying premise of most 9/11 revisionism is that the United States government, or at least parts of it, is capable of almost anything.

we now know that they set the Waco compound on fire, and that they were firing machine guns into the only exit once the flames had engulfed the building. Bodies were piled up at the site of the exit that the coroner ruled were homicide deaths from bullet wounds. Homicides that our government committed. Most American yawn at such news. 'Those people (including the children) were 'whackos'.

Recently our government has murdered or maimed or displaced millions upon millions of innocent men, women and children in the Middle East, and destroyed several countries, all based on by now well-established lies. Most Americans yawn at such knowledge. Those people 'hate our freedom'.

Our government is also running a permanent torture camp. A 'Ministry of Love', or Minluv, in Orwell's Newspeak parlance.

The signatories of the neocon Project for the New American Century paper observed that was needed was a catalyst to produce a public demand to "do something," that "something" being an event comparable to Pearl Harbor. Seventeen signatories of the document wound up in senior positions in the Bush Administration.

the "something" that these neocon Zionists demanded from their "new Pearl Harbor like event" was for America to set about destroying all Muslim nations considered inconvenient to Israel. Without the 'event', Americans just were not willing to sacrifice their children to the Zionist cause.

One of the central figures demanding that America act in Israel's interest was a one Phillip D. Zelikow. A neocon insider extraordinaire.

This from his Wiki page:

In the November–December 1998 issue of Foreign Affairs, he co-authored an article Catastrophic Terrorism, with Ashton B. Carter , and John M. Deutch, in which they speculated that if the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center had succeeded, "the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of catastrophic terrorism would be a watershed event in American history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America's fundamental sense of security, as did the Soviet atomic bomb test in 1949. Like Pearl Harbor, the event would divide our past and future into a before and after. The United States might respond with draconian measures scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force. More violence could follow, either future terrorist attacks or U.S. counterattacks. Belatedly, Americans would judge their leaders negligent for not addressing terrorism more urgently." [24]

Yes, that Ashton Carter, our current Secretary of Defense. And John Deutch was the director of the CIA at one time. (perhaps Mr. Giraldi knows of him)

This Jewish neocon war mongering Zionist who called for a Peal Harbor like event to catalyze Americans to go to war for Israel, ended up being the executive director of the 911 Commission. The same 911 Commission that is universally recognized as a fraud and a cover up. Even by some of the men who were on it.

I'm going to stop here. My head simply swims from the sheer evil of these people.

Miro23, October 25, 2016 at 3:20 pm

@Fred Reed

A simpler 9/11 questionnaire for Fred;

"Did right wing elements in Israel close to Likud, and US Neocons close to the Bush administration engineer the attacks to enable the Iraq war?" Yes____ No____ Don't know____

Essay question: Are there any similarities between these events and other False Flag attacks aimed at Great Britain and the US such as 1) The King David Hotel bombing 2) Operation Susannah – Lavon Affair 3) USS Liberty?

Jon Gold , October 25, 2016 at 3:31 pm GMT • 200 Words

Loose Change? C'mon Phil…

9/11: Press For Truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHPfXemf10

In Their Own Words: The Untold Stories Of The 9/11 Families
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBblyIPxZFE

9/11 Family Members, Jersey Girls, and member of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee Lorie Van Auken and Mindy Kleinberg released a report showing how poorly the 9/11 Commission answered their questions:

http://wewereliedtoabout911.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/fsc_review.pdf

The September Eleventh Advocates (Jersey Girls) have released a multitude of press releases over the years bringing attention to and calling into question certain aspects of 9/11:

http://wewereliedtoabout911.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/911advocates.pdf

Here are the 9/11 Family Steering Committee's list of unanswered questions. The final statement from the 9/11 Family Steering Committee states "the report did not answer all of our questions…":

http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html

Here is essential testimony from different 9/11 Family Members during the 9/11 Commission:

http://www.911independentcommission.org/testimony.html

Here are all of the different statements released by the 9/11 Family Steering Committee during the time of the 9/11 Commission. They show extremely well the corruption and compromise within the 9/11 Commission:

http://www.911independentcommission.org/news.html

My EXTREMELY extensive show "We Were Lied To About 9/11."

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/we-were-lied-to-about-9-11/id955030348?mt=2

Rurik October 25, 2016 at 3:56 pm GMT • 1,000 Words
@Fred Reed Nine-Eleven Conspiracy Exam (Note: This was written when Israel was the most popular culprit. Some questions may need to be changed to reflect changes in guilt. Failure to answer all questions will result in a grade of F.)

Was the US government solely responsible for the attacks? yes___no___Don't know___


Was Israel solely responsible for the attacks? yes___no___Don't know___


Did Israel and the US government together engineer the attacks? yes___no___Don't know___


Was neither Israel nor the US government responsible? yes___no___Don't know___


Were Saudis involved in any way in the plot? yes___no___Don't know___


If Israel was responsible, did the CIA know? yes___no___Don't know___


Was President Bush, through the CIA or otherwise, aware of the Israeli participation, making the President and the CIA part of the conspiracy? yes___no___Don't know___


Did AA77 hit the Pentagon. yes___no___Don't know___


Essay question: If no, What happened to AA77? ____________ Don't know___


If not AA77, did a missile hit the Pentagon? yes___no___Don't know___


If a missile, was ws it fired by the US military, making the military part of the conspiracy? yes___no___Don't know___


If no, fired by whom? ____________ Don't know___


Did the NTSB fake the data from the flight data recorders, making it part of the conspiracy? yes___no___Don't know___


Were the Towers destroyed by a controlled demolition? yes___no___Don't know___


Did aircraft hit the the Towers? yes___no___Don't know___


If so, who flew them? ____________ Don't know__


Essay question: Why both controlled demolition and aircraft? Ignore this question if the two were not used together


Essay question: If a controlled demolition, describe the placement and quantities needed, and the source of your information.


Was the FBI involved in the cover-up, and therefore part of the conspiracy? yes___no___Don't know___


Was Larry Silverstein, owner of the Towers, part of the conspiracy? yes___no___Don't know___


Did the media cover up the conspiracy, thereby making them part of it? yes___no___Don't know___


Essay question: If Israel was involved, should America bomb Tel Aviv?

Was the US government solely responsible for the attacks? yes___no___Don't know___

no, Israel was also responsible

Was Israel solely responsible for the attacks? yes___no___Don't know___

No, elements in the US gov and controlled media were also responsible

Did Israel and the US government together engineer the attacks? yes___no___Don't know___

not governments per se, but elements in those governments. Like "the orders still stand" Dick Cheney, but certainly not all the assorted minions of the US or Israeli governments.

Was neither Israel nor the US government responsible? yes___no___Don't know___

not governments per se. If you restrict the question to this broadly defined blanket condemnation, then the answer would be 'yes'.

Were Saudis involved in any way in the plot? yes___no___Don't know___

there's zero reason for thinking so

If Israel was responsible, did the CIA know? yes___no___Don't know___

at the highest levels, yes, but there again, that certainly doesn't mean every single employee

Was President Bush, through the CIA or otherwise, aware of the Israeli participation, making the President and the CIA part of the conspiracy? yes___no___Don't know___

Don't know

Did AA77 hit the Pentagon. yes___no___Don't know___

there's no evidence of it. And if it had, they'd show us one of the scores (hundreds?) of videos

Essay question: If no, What happened to AA77? ____________ Don't know___

the reason the flights were wildly diverted was probably to land the planes, liquidate the passengers and crew, and then send up specially outfitted jets for the purpose of crashing into the towers. (as the pretext for them to collapse, as the pretext to start the Eternal Wars for Israel and to turn us all into Palestinians)

If not AA77, did a missile hit the Pentagon? yes___no___Don't know___

it looks like it

If a missile, was ws it fired by the US military, making the military part of the conspiracy? yes___no___Don't know___

Don't know. And again, it wouldn't be "the military", as in some monolithic entity that is fully aware of everything that "it' does. There are fringe sub-sets of the military that are often engaged in illegal and covert ops.

If no, fired by whom? ____________ Don't know___

Don't know

Did the NTSB fake the data from the flight data recorders, making it part of the conspiracy? yes___no___Don't know___

what data?!

From what I understand, we have not been made privy to any of the information on any of the flight data recorders. If you're aware of any data from the flight data recorders then you should give us a link!

Were the Towers destroyed by a controlled demolition? yes___no___Don't know___

yes

it's *obvious* that building seven was thus demolished, and so it follows that the other two were also.

Did aircraft hit the the Towers? yes___no___Don't know___

two of them, yes. The third was not hit by a plane, it simply plopped down in nicely cut pieces ready for shipment to China.

If so, who flew them? ____________ Don't know__

In all likelihood, remote control. Check out the comptroller of the Pentagon at the time and his sundry organizations. Nice little rabbit hole of its own.

Essay question: Why both controlled demolition and aircraft? Ignore this question if the two were not used together

horror

they needed to horrify and anger the American people to rally us to war on Israel's neighbors. (+ there was the added benefit to lucky Larry of a few billion shekels and an opportunity to get rid of a couple of financial boondoggles. Such a deal!)

Essay question: If a controlled demolition, describe the placement and quantities needed, and the source of your information.

this is silly

we don't need to know the exact caliber of bullet that hit JFK to know that the government and Warren commission was lying. And they likely used military type crap that we're not even privy to. Come on Fred.

Was the FBI involved in the cover-up, and therefore part of the conspiracy? yes___no___Don't know___

elements, sure

like the people that went around and collected all the videos that might have showed what hit the Pentagon. Certainly the people at the top were and are privy to the crime and cover up. Just like with JFK.

Was Larry Silverstein, owner of the Towers, part of the conspiracy? yes___no___Don't know___

Yes, of course he was

Did the media cover up the conspiracy, thereby making them part of it? yes___no___Don't know___

not your local channel seven, but the media as it's controlled from the top, and lie about EVERTYING. Yes Fred, that media was complicit. And still are. And are the ones that are going to hand the reins of this nations to Hillary Clinton. That media, you betcha.

Essay question: If Israel was involved, should America bomb Tel Aviv?

of course not. There again you're being silly Fred.

what America should do is the same thing is should (and still needs to) do as regards the other cowardly and treacherous false flag that *elements* in the Israeli government and security forces were responsible for- the attack on the USS Liberty. We should have a real investigation that ferrets out these uber-criminals and brings them to justice.

911 was a coup to turn the US into Israel's rabid dog in the Levant. And create a police state for any Americans that object, even with our very own torture camp. Isn't that something?

You should write about it someday Fred. I can't think of a person more suited to mock the American idea of the free and the brave running a torture camp for goat herders and Afghans who don't want America making them free too.

as for 911, all you have to know is that building seven was an obvious controlled demolition. From there it doesn't matter if George Dubya Bush was in on it or what type of materials specifically were used to bring the buildings down. That shit is all academic. We know they lied, and are lying. Only a deluded fool or moral coward (or worse) would pretend to themselves otherwise once he's seen the irrefutable evidence that they're lying.

TheJester October 25, 2016 at 4:31 pm GMT • 200 Words

There are multiple ways to engineer a "False Flag" attack:

1. You do it yourself, flying someone else's "flag" and hope no one notices. (Very primitive … rarely works unless you are a wooden frigate at sea attacking enemy maritime commerce.)

2. You hire someone else to do it and hope none of them get caught. (Moderately primitive … but it worked for awhile in the Kennedy assassination.)

3. You infiltrate a hostile terrorist organization, take control, and redirect it to the attack. (Very difficult to do … but this was done in the NATO-sponsored Gladio terrorist attacks in Europe in the 1960s as well as the Black Hand attacks that precipitated WWI.)

4. You infiltrate a hostile terrorist organization, discover what they have planned, and QUIETLY remove all of YOUR obstacles that would otherwise have prevented the attack. (This is the best if you can pull it off since you leave no fingerprints. You might, as in 911, be accused of incompetent but, okay, you missed that one, so what!)

BTW: #4 doesn't mean you don't help the terrorists with a little demolition work to make sure the spectacle unfolds as planned. You really need grand firework displays in these things to get them the attention they deserve.

Si1ver1ock, October 25, 2016 at 5:04 pm GMT

For those just coming into the 911 Truth movement, you should probably look at the hard evidence first to see if it merits further consideration. After that, you can go to he circumstantial evidence.

Start with the physics and engineering:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HNIIdpMhFg

The question isn't whether this theory or that theory is absolutely correct. The question is whether there is sufficient cause for a new investigation. I never hear a good argument from the anti-Truth crowd as to why we shouldn't have another investigation.

We want a new investigation. They don't want one. Why?

Miro23, October 25, 2016 at 7:17 pm GMT

A key to instant identification of the faith-based C-theorist is the loud claim that "steel-framed buildings" don't collapse as a result of fire. Fact is, yes they do - known, verified, fully-explained using real, verifiable data.

Here's a list of steel framed high rises and other high rises that experienced major fires:

– One New York Plaza, New York. 50 stories steel. Dropped beams on 33rd & 34th floors.
– Alexis Nihon Plaza, Montreal. 15 stories steel. Partial collapse on 11th floor.
– Windsor Tower, Madrid. 29 stories steel/concrete. Partial collapse.
– One Meridian Plaza, Philadelphia. 38 stories. No collapse.
– Broadgate Phase 8, London. 14 stories. No collapse.
– First Interstate Bank, Los Angeles. 62 stories. No collapse.
– MGM Grand Hotel, Las Vegas. 26 stories. No collapse.
– Joelma Building, Sao Paulo. 25 stories. No collapse.
– Andraus Building, Sao Paulo. 31 stories. No collapse.

These fires were much longer lasting and more intense than the WTC fires and none of these buildings experienced a complete collapse.
Can you give a list of modern steel frame 20 storey+ buildings similar to WTC 1, 2 & 7 that have experienced a complete collapse due to fire – known and verified.

Miro23 , October 25, 2016 at 8:23 pm GMT • 300 Words

I have repeatedly noted that the Commission investigators failed to look into the potential foreign government involvement in the events that took place that day. Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan just for starters may have been involved in or had knowledge relating to 9/11 but the only investigation that took place, insofar as I can determine, was a perfunctory look at the possible Saudi role, the notorious 28 pages, which have recently been released in a redacted form.

It might have been worth checking out Israel a bit more closely. They have been running False Flag operations against the British and the US for years, aimed at engaging them in war against Arab states. For example:

The Irgun bombing of the King David Hotel (headquarters of the British Mandate Government of Palestine) in which Zionists dressed as Arabs placed milk churns filled with explosives against the main columns of the building killing 91 people and injuring 44. Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu attended a celebration to commemorate the event.

Operation Susannah (Lavon Affair) where Israeli operatives impersonating Arabs bombed British and American cinemas, libraries and educational centres in Egypt to destabilize the country and keep British troops committed to the Middle East.

Or on June 8th 1967, the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty with unmarked aircraft and torpedo boats. 34 men were killed and 171 wounded, with the attack in international waters following nine hours of close surveillance. When the ship failed to sink, the Israeli government concocted an elaborate story to cover the crime. Original plan to blame the sinking with all lives lost on the Egyptians and draw the US into the 6 Day War.

Or Israelis and U.S. Zionists appearing all over the more recent WTC 9/11 "Operation" with Israelis once again impersonating Arabs in a historic deception/terror action of a type that carries a lot of kudos with old ex-terrorist Likudniks. In any event, Israelis were sent to film the historic day (as they later admitted on Israeli TV), with the celebrations including photos of themselves with a background of the burning towers.

CanSpeccy says: • Website October 25, 2016 at 9:57 pm GMT •
@War for Blair Mountain
add in the fact that the steel support beams only had to be softened not melted to cause catastrophic structural failure.
You are absolutely correct about that. If the beams had melted, or even softened, then the building would have collapsed. But not straight down at near free-fall speed into its own footprint, while crushing all the concrete to dust.

If the columns had melted, or merely softened, they would not have melted or softened uniformly across the the building, so the result would have been an asymetric collapse resulting in the top of the building toppling over and crashing onto the roof of adjacent buildings. The portion of the building beneath the fire zone would have been left standing.

But, as we know, nothing like that happened.

CanSpeccy , October 26, 2016 at 2:07 am GMT • 400 Words @Oldeguy
Pretty much my response. Something, I know not what, is amiss with Our Favorite Expatriate.
Not being sure of what really happened in an event this pivotal is a reason to proceed with further discussion and investigation- not to shut it down.
The most successful, by far, commando operation in history performed flawlessly by a bunch of guys with boxcutters directed by cell phone by a fugitive hiding out in a cave in Afghanistan ?
On the the face of it, that matches the goofiest of any of the conspiracy theories.

On the the face of it, that [the theory about 19 guys with box-cutters under the direction of fugitive in a cave in Afghanistan] matches the goofiest of any of the conspiracy theories.

And even the members of the 9/11 Commission have admitted they don't really believe it.

Thus:

The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission (Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton) said that the CIA (and likely the White House) "obstructed our investigation".

The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission also said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements , yet didn't bother to tell the American people (free subscription required).

Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations .

9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only "the first draft" of history .

9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ."

9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting"

Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal" ; "This investigation is now compromised" ; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up" .

9/11 Commissioner John Lehman said that " We purposely put together a staff that had – in a way – conflicts of interest ".

The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry, said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true."

[Oct 25, 2016] 11 Truth? Was it an American coup?

Notable quotes:
"... Jill Stein of the Green Party has recognized that exercises in which the United States government examines its own behavior are certain to come up with a result that basically exonerates the politicians and the federal bureaucracy. ..."
"... A friend recently recommended that I take a look at a film on 9/11 that was first produced back in 2005. It is called Loose Change 9/11 and is available on Amazon Video or in DVD form as well as elsewhere in a number of updated versions. The first version reportedly provides the most coherent account, though the later updates certainly are worth watching, add significantly to the narrative, and are currently more accessible. ..."
"... Loose Change is an examination of the inconsistencies in the standard 9/11 narrative, a subject that has been thoroughly poked and prodded in a number of other documentaries and books, but it benefits from the immediacy of the account and the fresh memories of the participants in the events who were interviewed by the documentary's director Dylan Avery starting in 2004. It also includes a bit of a history lesson for the average viewer, recalling Hitler's Reichstag fire, Pearl Harbor and the Gulf of Tonkin incident, all of which were essentially fraudulent and led to the assumption of emergency powers by the respective heads of state. ..."
"... The underlying premise of most 9/11 revisionism is that the United States government, or at least parts of it, is capable of almost anything. ..."
"... The signatories of the neocon Project for the New American Century paper observed that was needed was a catalyst to produce a public demand to "do something," that "something" being an event comparable to Pearl Harbor. Seventeen signatories of the document wound up in senior positions in the Bush Administration. ..."
"... The new Pearl Harbor turned out to be 9/11. Given developments since 9/11 itself, to include the way the U.S. has persisted in going to war and the constant search for enemies worldwide to justify our own form of Deep State government, I would, to a large extent, have to believe that PNAC was either prescient or perhaps, more diabolically, actively engaged in creating a new reality. ..."
"... the strength of Loose Change as it identifies and challenges inconsistencies in the established account without pontificating and, even though it has a definite point of view and draws conclusions, it avoids going over to the dark side and speculating on any number of the wilder "what-if" scenarios. ..."
"... I recommend that readers watch Loose Change as it runs through discussions of U.S. military exercises and inexplicable stand-downs that occurred on 9/11, together with convincing accounts of engineering and technical issues related to how the World Trade Center and WTC7 collapsed. Particularly intriguing are the initial eyewitness accounts from the site of the alleged downing of UA 93 in Pennsylvania, a hole in the ground that otherwise showed absolutely no evidence of a plane having actually crashed. Nor have I ever seen any traces of a plane in photos taken at the Pentagon point of impact. ..."
Oct 25, 2016 | www.unz.com
11 Truth? Was it an "American coup?" Leave a Comment For the first time a presidential candidate, admittedly from a fringe party, is calling for a reexamination of 9/11. Jill Stein of the Green Party has recognized that exercises in which the United States government examines its own behavior are certain to come up with a result that basically exonerates the politicians and the federal bureaucracy. This has been the case since the Warren Commission report on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, which, inter alia, failed to thoroughly investigate key players like Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby and came up with a single gunman scenario in spite of considerable evidence to the contrary.

When it comes to 9/11, I have been reluctant to enter the fray largely because I do not have the scientific and technical chops to seriously assess how buildings collapse or how a large passenger airliner might be completely consumed by a fire. In my own area, of expertise, which is intelligence, I have repeatedly noted that the Commission investigators failed to look into the potential foreign government involvement in the events that took place that day. Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan just for starters may have been involved in or had knowledge relating to 9/11 but the only investigation that took place, insofar as I can determine, was a perfunctory look at the possible Saudi role, the notorious 28 pages, which have recently been released in a redacted form.

A friend recently recommended that I take a look at a film on 9/11 that was first produced back in 2005. It is called Loose Change 9/11 and is available on Amazon Video or in DVD form as well as elsewhere in a number of updated versions. The first version reportedly provides the most coherent account, though the later updates certainly are worth watching, add significantly to the narrative, and are currently more accessible.

Loose Change is an examination of the inconsistencies in the standard 9/11 narrative, a subject that has been thoroughly poked and prodded in a number of other documentaries and books, but it benefits from the immediacy of the account and the fresh memories of the participants in the events who were interviewed by the documentary's director Dylan Avery starting in 2004. It also includes a bit of a history lesson for the average viewer, recalling Hitler's Reichstag fire, Pearl Harbor and the Gulf of Tonkin incident, all of which were essentially fraudulent and led to the assumption of emergency powers by the respective heads of state.

The underlying premise of most 9/11 revisionism is that the United States government, or at least parts of it, is capable of almost anything. Loose Change describes how leading hawkish Republicans were, as early as 2000, pushing to increase U.S. military capabilities so that the country would be able to fight multi-front wars. The signatories of the neocon Project for the New American Century paper observed that was needed was a catalyst to produce a public demand to "do something," that "something" being an event comparable to Pearl Harbor. Seventeen signatories of the document wound up in senior positions in the Bush Administration.

The new Pearl Harbor turned out to be 9/11. Given developments since 9/11 itself, to include the way the U.S. has persisted in going to war and the constant search for enemies worldwide to justify our own form of Deep State government, I would, to a large extent, have to believe that PNAC was either prescient or perhaps, more diabolically, actively engaged in creating a new reality.

That is not to suggest that either then or now most federal employees in the national security industry were part of some vast conspiracy but rather an indictment of the behavior and values of those at the top of the food chain, people who are characteristically singularly devoid of any ethical compass and base their decisions largely on personal and peer group ambition.

9/11 Truthers are characteristically very passionate about their beliefs, which is part of their problem in relating to a broader public. They frequently demand full adherence to their version of what passes for reality. In my own experience of more than twenty years on the intelligence side of government I have frequently found that truth is in fact elusive, often lying concealed in conflicting narratives. This is, I believe, the strength of Loose Change as it identifies and challenges inconsistencies in the established account without pontificating and, even though it has a definite point of view and draws conclusions, it avoids going over to the dark side and speculating on any number of the wilder "what-if" scenarios.

I recommend that readers watch Loose Change as it runs through discussions of U.S. military exercises and inexplicable stand-downs that occurred on 9/11, together with convincing accounts of engineering and technical issues related to how the World Trade Center and WTC7 collapsed. Particularly intriguing are the initial eyewitness accounts from the site of the alleged downing of UA 93 in Pennsylvania, a hole in the ground that otherwise showed absolutely no evidence of a plane having actually crashed. Nor have I ever seen any traces of a plane in photos taken at the Pentagon point of impact.

The film describes the subsequent investigative failures that took place, perhaps deliberately and arranged from inside the government, and concludes that the event amounts to an "American coup" which changed the United States both in terms of its domestic liberties and its foreign policy. After watching the film, one must accept that there are numerous inconsistencies that emerge from any examination of the standard narrative promoted by the 9/11 Commission and covered up by every White House since 2001. The film calls the existing corpus of government investigations into 9/11 a lie, a conclusion that I would certainly agree with.

The consequences of 9/11 are indeed more important than the event itself. Even those who have come to accept the established narrative would have to concede that "that day of infamy" changed America for the worse, as the film notes. While the United States government had previously engaged in illegal activity directed against for suspected spies, terrorists and a variety of international criminals, wholesale surveillance of what amounts to the entire population of the country was a new development brought in by the Patriot Acts. And, for the first time, secret prisons were set up overseas and citizens were arrested without being charged and held indefinitely. Under the authority of the Military Commissions Act tribunals were established to try those individuals who were suspected of being material supporters of terrorism, "material supporters" being loosely interpreted to make arrest, prosecution and imprisonment easier.

More recently, executive authority based on the anti-terror legislation has been used to execute American citizens overseas and, under the Authorization to Use Military Force, to attack suspects in a number of countries with which the United States is not at war. This all takes place with hardly a squeak from Congress or from the media. And when citizens object to any or all of the above they are blocked from taking action in the courts by the government's invocation of State Secrets Privilege, claiming that judicial review would reveal national secrets. Many believe that the United States has now become a precursor police state, all as a result of 9/11 and the so-called War on Terror which developed from that event.

So who benefited from 9/11? Clearly the executive branch of the government itself, which has seen an enormous expansion in its power and control over both the economy and people's lives, but there are also other entities like the military industrial complex, the Pentagon and intelligence agencies, and the financial services sector, all of which have gained considerably from the anti-terror largesse coming from the American taxpayer. Together these entities constitute an American Deep State, which controls both government and much of the private sector without ever being mentioned or seriously contested.

Suggesting government connivance in the events of 9/11 inevitably raises the question of who exactly might have ordered or carried out the attacks if they were in fact not fully and completely the work of a handful of Arab hijackers? The film suggests that one should perhaps consider the possibility of a sophisticated "false flag" operation, by which we mean that the apparent perpetrators of the act were not, in fact, the drivers or originators of what took place. Blowing up huge buildings and causing them to pancake from within, if indeed that is what took place, is the work of governments, not of a handful of terrorists. Only two governments would have had that capability, the United States itself and also Israel, unfortunately mentioned only once in passing in the film, a state player heavily engaged in attempting to bring America into its fight with the Arab world, with Benjamin Netanyahu subsequently saying that "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq swung American public opinion in our favor."

To be honest I would prefer not to think that 9/11 might have been an inside job, but I am now convinced that a new 9/11 Commission is in order, one that is not run and guided by the government itself. If it can be demonstrated that the attacks carried out on that day were quite possibly set up by major figures both inside and outside the political establishment it might produce such a powerful reaction that the public would demand a reversal of the laws and policies that have so gravely damaged our republic. It is admittedly unlikely that anything like that could ever take place, but it is at least something to hope for.

[Oct 16, 2016] The Deep State

Notable quotes:
"... "deep state" - the Washington-Wall-Street-Silicon-Valley Establishment - is a far greater threat to liberty than you think ..."
"... Yes, there is another government concealed behind the one that is visible at either end of Pennsylvania Avenue, a hybrid entity of public and private institutions ruling the country according to consistent patterns in season and out, connected to, but only intermittently controlled by, the visible state whose leaders we choose. ..."
"... Cultural assimilation is partly a matter of what psychologist Irving L. Janis called "groupthink," the chameleon-like ability of people to adopt the views of their superiors and peers. This syndrome is endemic to Washington: The town is characterized by sudden fads, be it negotiating biennial budgeting, making grand bargains or invading countries. Then, after a while, all the town's cool kids drop those ideas as if they were radioactive. As in the military, everybody has to get on board with the mission, and questioning it is not a career-enhancing move. The universe of people who will critically examine the goings-on at the institutions they work for is always going to be a small one. As Upton Sinclair said, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." ..."
Feb 28, 2014 | The American Conservative

Steve Sailer links to this unsettling essay by former career Congressional staffer Mike Lofgren, who says the "deep state" - the Washington-Wall-Street-Silicon-Valley Establishment - is a far greater threat to liberty than you think. The partisan rancor and gridlock in Washington conceals a more fundamental and pervasive agreement.

Excerpts:

These are not isolated instances of a contradiction; they have been so pervasive that they tend to be disregarded as background noise. During the time in 2011 when political warfare over the debt ceiling was beginning to paralyze the business of governance in Washington, the United States government somehow summoned the resources to overthrow Muammar Ghaddafi's regime in Libya, and, when the instability created by that coup spilled over into Mali, provide overt and covert assistance to French intervention there. At a time when there was heated debate about continuing meat inspections and civilian air traffic control because of the budget crisis, our government was somehow able to commit $115 million to keeping a civil war going in Syria and to pay at least £100m to the United Kingdom's Government Communications Headquarters to buy influence over and access to that country's intelligence. Since 2007, two bridges carrying interstate highways have collapsed due to inadequate maintenance of infrastructure, one killing 13 people. During that same period of time, the government spent $1.7 billion constructing a building in Utah that is the size of 17 football fields. This mammoth structure is intended to allow the National Security Agency to store a yottabyte of information, the largest numerical designator computer scientists have coined. A yottabyte is equal to 500 quintillion pages of text. They need that much storage to archive every single trace of your electronic life.

Yes, there is another government concealed behind the one that is visible at either end of Pennsylvania Avenue, a hybrid entity of public and private institutions ruling the country according to consistent patterns in season and out, connected to, but only intermittently controlled by, the visible state whose leaders we choose. My analysis of this phenomenon is not an exposé of a secret, conspiratorial cabal; the state within a state is hiding mostly in plain sight, and its operators mainly act in the light of day. Nor can this other government be accurately termed an "establishment." All complex societies have an establishment, a social network committed to its own enrichment and perpetuation. In terms of its scope, financial resources and sheer global reach, the American hybrid state, the Deep State, is in a class by itself. That said, it is neither omniscient nor invincible. The institution is not so much sinister (although it has highly sinister aspects) as it is relentlessly well entrenched. Far from being invincible, its failures, such as those in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, are routine enough that it is only the Deep State's protectiveness towards its higher-ranking personnel that allows them to escape the consequences of their frequent ineptitude.

More:

Washington is the most important node of the Deep State that has taken over America, but it is not the only one. Invisible threads of money and ambition connect the town to other nodes. One is Wall Street, which supplies the cash that keeps the political machine quiescent and operating as a diversionary marionette theater. Should the politicians forget their lines and threaten the status quo, Wall Street floods the town with cash and lawyers to help the hired hands remember their own best interests. The executives of the financial giants even have de facto criminal immunity. On March 6, 2013, testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Attorney General Eric Holder stated the following: "I am concerned that the size of some of these institutions becomes so large that it does become difficult for us to prosecute them when we are hit with indications that if you do prosecute, if you do bring a criminal charge, it will have a negative impact on the national economy, perhaps even the world economy." This, from the chief law enforcement officer of a justice system that has practically abolished the constitutional right to trial for poorer defendants charged with certain crimes. It is not too much to say that Wall Street may be the ultimate owner of the Deep State and its strategies, if for no other reason than that it has the money to reward government operatives with a second career that is lucrative beyond the dreams of avarice - certainly beyond the dreams of a salaried government employee. [3]

The corridor between Manhattan and Washington is a well trodden highway for the personalities we have all gotten to know in the period since the massive deregulation of Wall Street: Robert Rubin, Lawrence Summers, Henry Paulson, Timothy Geithner and many others. Not all the traffic involves persons connected with the purely financial operations of the government: In 2013, General David Petraeus joined KKR (formerly Kohlberg Kravis Roberts) of 9 West 57th Street, New York, a private equity firm with $62.3 billion in assets. KKR specializes in management buyouts and leveraged finance. General Petraeus' expertise in these areas is unclear. His ability to peddle influence, however, is a known and valued commodity. Unlike Cincinnatus, the military commanders of the Deep State do not take up the plow once they lay down the sword. Petraeus also obtained a sinecure as a non-resident senior fellow at theBelfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard. The Ivy League is, of course, the preferred bleaching tub and charm school of the American oligarchy.

Lofgren goes on to say that Silicon Valley is a node of the Deep State too, and that despite the protestations of its chieftains against NSA spying, it's a vital part of the Deep State's apparatus. More:

The Deep State is the big story of our time. It is the red thread that runs through the war on terrorism, the financialization and deindustrialization of the American economy, the rise of a plutocratic social structure and political dysfunction. Washington is the headquarters of the Deep State, and its time in the sun as a rival to Rome, Constantinople or London may be term-limited by its overweening sense of self-importance and its habit, as Winwood Reade said of Rome, to "live upon its principal till ruin stared it in the face."

Read the whole thing.

... I would love to see a study comparing the press coverage from 9/11 leading up to the Iraq War with press coverage of the gay marriage issue from about 2006 till today. Specifically, I'd be curious to know about how thoroughly the media covered the cases against the policies that the Deep State and the Shallow State decided should prevail. I'm not suggesting a conspiracy here, not at all. I'm only thinking back to how it seemed so obvious to me in 2002 that we should go to war with Iraq, so perfectly clear that the only people who opposed it were fools or villains. The same consensus has emerged around same-sex marriage. I know how overwhelmingly the news media have believed this for some time, such that many American journalists simply cannot conceive that anyone against same-sex marriage is anything other than a fool or a villain. Again, this isn't a conspiracy; it's in the nature of the thing. Lofgren:

Cultural assimilation is partly a matter of what psychologist Irving L. Janis called "groupthink," the chameleon-like ability of people to adopt the views of their superiors and peers. This syndrome is endemic to Washington: The town is characterized by sudden fads, be it negotiating biennial budgeting, making grand bargains or invading countries. Then, after a while, all the town's cool kids drop those ideas as if they were radioactive. As in the military, everybody has to get on board with the mission, and questioning it is not a career-enhancing move. The universe of people who will critically examine the goings-on at the institutions they work for is always going to be a small one. As Upton Sinclair said, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

A more elusive aspect of cultural assimilation is the sheer dead weight of the ordinariness of it all once you have planted yourself in your office chair for the 10,000th time. Government life is typically not some vignette from an Allen Drury novel about intrigue under the Capitol dome. Sitting and staring at the clock on the off-white office wall when it's 11:00 in the evening and you are vowing never, ever to eat another piece of takeout pizza in your life is not an experience that summons the higher literary instincts of a would-be memoirist. After a while, a functionary of the state begins to hear things that, in another context, would be quite remarkable, or at least noteworthy, and yet that simply bounce off one's consciousness like pebbles off steel plate: "You mean the number of terrorist groups we are fighting is classified?" No wonder so few people are whistle-blowers, quite apart from the vicious retaliation whistle-blowing often provokes: Unless one is blessed with imagination and a fine sense of irony, growing immune to the curiousness of one's surroundings is easy. To paraphrase the inimitable Donald Rumsfeld, I didn't know all that I knew, at least until I had had a couple of years away from the government to reflect upon it.

When all you know is the people who surround you in your professional class bubble and your social circles, you can think the whole world agrees with you, or should. It's probably not a coincidence that the American media elite live, work, and socialize in New York and Washington, the two cities that were attacked on 9/11, and whose elites - political, military, financial - were so genuinely traumatized by the events.

Anyway, that's just a small part of it, about how the elite media manufacture consent. Here's a final quote, one from the Moyers interview with Lofgren:

BILL MOYERS: If, as you write, the ideology of the Deep State is not democrat or republican, not left or right, what is it?

MIKE LOFGREN: It's an ideology. I just don't think we've named it. It's a kind of corporatism. Now, the actors in this drama tend to steer clear of social issues. They pretend to be merrily neutral servants of the state, giving the best advice possible on national security or financial matters. But they hold a very deep ideology of the Washington consensus at home, which is deregulation, outsourcing, de-industrialization and financialization. And they believe in American exceptionalism abroad, which is boots on the ground everywhere, it's our right to meddle everywhere in the world. And the result of that is perpetual war.

This can't last. We'd better hope it can't last. And we'd better hope it unwinds peacefully.

[Oct 01, 2016] If civilians can sue sovereign states it should be obvious to everybody that the drone maniacal US would be on top of the list of targets for such suits

Oct 01, 2016 | economistsview.typepad.com

DeDude : September 30, 2016 at 07:38 AM

Amazing how stupid congress can be. I know the politics that drove this mistake, but why did the leadership in congress allow this to be voted on?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/politics/obama-911-veto-congressional-concerns/index.html

If civilians can sue sovereign states it should be obvious to everybody that the drone maniacal US would be on top of the list of targets for such suits. Our government and soldiers would be the most vulnerable in the whole world.

If our courts were to begin collections of judgments from sovereign states the results would be that no foreign government would want to hold assets in this country.

I certainly sympathize with the 9/11 victim families, although they have been compensated for their loss with way more money than any of the foreign collateral damage victims of our military actions.

The families may not understand this, but they will never collect a dime. On the other hand, this legislation to "help" them will do a lot of damage to the country and its soldiers.

How did sympathy for these families let our congress members trap themselves in such a stupendous blunder. I guess election season is a time for that kind of stuff.

reason -> DeDude... , Friday, September 30, 2016 at 07:52 AM
It is this sort of legislation that has made the US so hated around the world. The US just can't seem to internalize that being sovereign doesn't imply sovereignty over the rest of the world, that that sovereignty ends at the border.

As far as I know, the US is the only country that taxes its non-resident citizens. This alone is nuts.

The US is also as far as I know the only country that thinks it has the right to kill the citizens of other countries outside its borders.

And then it seems that many US citizens seem to think they are not bound by the rules of physics, or logic or arithmetic.

US exceptionalism has gone on long enough. It is about time the US came back to earth and decided it is just another country on earth.

efcdons -> reason ... , Friday, September 30, 2016 at 11:48 AM
"As far as I know, the US is the only country that taxes its non-resident citizens. This alone is nuts."

Why is that nuts? Do non-resident citizens no longer have access to consulate services? Does the citizenship lapse such that one can't come back to the US whenever they want?

The US keeps going while the citizen is abroad. It's not outrageous to ask them to contribute something (not much, the credit for overseas taxes paid is pretty high).

DeDude -> efcdons... , -1
We are the only ones that assume people will come back unless they renounce their citizenship.

It is only fair that you get taxed for the government services you receive. Therefore, you should be taxed in the country where you live. There is no justification for taxing income earned in a foreign country.

The value of consulate services are so small that it cost more to recover them than deliver them. So the rest of the world does not use that lame excuse to tax citizens living abroad.

[Sep 24, 2016] 9-11 Firefighter Blows WTC 7 Cover-Up Wide Open

Impressive interview
Notable quotes:
"... That guy knows what he's talking about. It's about time someone came forward with what may be true according to what he saw and knows. ..."
YouTube

Infowars reporter Lee Ann McAdoo talks to Rudy Dent, 32 year veteran of NYC fire department and the NYPD, about his incredible first hand experience of the lies surrounding WTC 7.

Jeanne O'Mara 13 hours ago

This retired fireman feels that it was a a controlled demolition. He has never heard of a high rise being brought down by a fire. There were other bldgs that were hit by debris from the burning towers. He was also suspicious that all the evidence from WTC 7 was taken away and sent to china.

The crime scene should have protected but wasn't. He believe as many now do that t was a "false Flag" operation to get people all riled up so they could get into react. He saw molten LAVA like pockets of steel which is like what you see when a volcano explodes. It's called pyroclastic flow. Thermite, a very special explosive was found and it can only be made a very specialized labs like Los Alamos.

The bush family has a very creepy history. Prescott Bush had holdings in a bank that funded the Nazis (Union Bank). It was seized by the CONGRESS. The Harrimans were also involved w this bank.

It's also clear that Bush Sr had a role in JFK's assassination. JFK had asked A. Harriman to negotiate w Vietnam and Harriman cross out that part. This was treason.

lora savage 1 week ago

That guy knows what he's talking about. It's about time someone came forward with what may be true according to what he saw and knows.

[Sep 24, 2016] 9 11 John Kerry admits that WTC7 was brought down by controlled demolition!

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al murphy 1 year ago
9/11 is a cover-up and World Trade Center 7 collapse is the smoking gun. Why is that so?? WTC-7 fully collapsed in a manner that resembles a controlled demolition. For 2.25 seconds it collapsed at freefall and National Institute of Standards and Technology now admits this. In order for it to freefall for 2.25 seconds you need a uniform gap of approx. 80ft free of any physical impediments (equivalent of blowing out 7 floors almost instantaneously).

Fire is not magic and cannot do that and only can be precisely done through human intervention. It takes the prepositioning of demolition components that are finely timed throughout the building to accomplish this. WTC-7 had GOV agencies as part of its tenant (US Secret Service, CIA, IRS, DOD...) With tenants like that it is impossible for an outsider to get access to the building to preposition demolition components. Whoever did had to have their consent!

[Sep 14, 2016] the motives of which are transparently political and actually create disinformation around veritable realities

Notable quotes:
"... It's unclear how a jetliner is [more] powerful than an earthquake, and how, if such requirements failed to save the WTC towers, preparing for even more powerful earthquakes is going to prevent a recurrence of the same. ..."
"... The heavy, black smoke emanating from the structures belies your premise. ..."
Sep 12, 2016 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

JSM September 12, 2016 at 5:10 pm

No offense is meant but fewer articles from Ms. Scofield, please, with transparent, dubious, questionable, or propagandistic angles. The article 'How building design changed after 9/11' has been written annually for fifteen years.

"In fact, for years building codes from the American Society of Civil Engineers, the American Institute of Steel Construction and the American Concrete Institute have required structural supports to be designed with high enough ductility to withstand a major earthquake so rare its probability of happening is once every 2,000 years. "

It's unclear how a jetliner is [more] powerful than an earthquake, and how, if such requirements failed to save the WTC towers, preparing for even more powerful earthquakes is going to prevent a recurrence of the same.

This would also go for any articles entitled 'How the US Can Win the War in Syria' in which no objectives are articulated, non-evidential articles entitled 'U.S. Could Pay a High Price for Suing the Saudis,' any more New Yorker articles, the motives of which are transparently political and actually create disinformation around veritable realities, about 'Trump and the Truth', e.g. 'The Unemployment Rate Hoax,' etc. I'm sure posting links is largely a thankless job, but if I wanted to I could turn on CNN and 'learn' these very things.

Jess , September 12, 2016 at 6:31 pm

"In fact, for years building codes from the American Society of Civil Engineers, the American Institute of Steel Construction and the American Concrete Institute have required structural supports to be designed with high enough ductility to withstand a major earthquake so rare its probability of happening is once every 2,000 years."

Hate to break it to you, but earthquake forces - seismic events - are considerably different than thermal events. Granted, fire often erupt as a result of severed gas and electric lines caused by an earthquake, but an earthquake is a brief, violent, hard shaking or rolling. A high-rise fire of sustained intensity sits in one place and does its work within a confined setting. In the case of the multiple floors damaged by the impact of the planes in 9-11, that confined setting bore a striking resemblance to a combination blast furnace and chimney. (People tend to forget that skyscrapers tend to create their own wind patterns, in this case well over 500 feet high. Just like air being pumped into a fire by a bellows.

human -> Jess , September 12, 2016 at 8:47 pm

The heavy, black smoke emanating from the structures belies your premise.

MyLessThanPrimeBeef , September 12, 2016 at 10:17 pm

The second order partial differentiation equation* governing structure responding during a dynamic event like an earthquakes shows that the force on the structure is related to its mass.

The heavier a structure, the bigger force it is subjected to, going through the same quake.

The force of an impacting plane is same regardless of the building size, all else being equal.

*(mass x acceleration) + (damping coefficient x velocity) + (stiffness modulus x displacement) = zero.

[Sep 11, 2016] The Mysterious Collapse of WTC Building 7

Is this a plan of the elite to introduce national security state in action. Are they afraid of the collapse of neoliberal social order and try to take precautions?
Notable quotes:
"... These factors would have resulted in the structural framing furthest from the flames remaining intact and possessing its full structural integrity, i.e., strength and stiffness. ..."
"... the superstructure above would begin to lean in the direction of the burning side. ..."
"... Nevertheless, the ultimate failure mode would have been a toppling of the upper floors to one side-much like the topping of a tall redwood tree-not a concentric, vertical collapse. ..."
"... A reporter with rare access to the debris at ground zero "descended deep below street level to areas where underground fires still burned and steel flowed in molten streams." ..."
"... Please remember that firefighters sprayed millions of gallons of water on the fires, and also applied high-tech fire retardants. Specifically, 4 million gallons of water were dropped on Ground Zero within the first 10 days after September 11, according to the U.S. Department of Energy's Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratories : ..."
"... Why would the Insiders bother blowing Building 7? Indeed, why would the Insiders bother with WTC at all? Exactly what were the motivations of the Insiders supposed to be? ..."
"... Larry Silverstein had a magic ball that told him to insure the buildings for "terrorist attacks". In February of 2002, Silverstein was awarded $861,000,000 for his insurance claims from Industrial Risk Insurers. His initial investment in WTC 7 was only $386,000,000. ..."
"... Perhaps after the first couple of attempted attacks on the WTC in the 90's they had a good look at what would happen if an attack was successful. Perhaps they then decided that the massive collateral damage from a partial or messy collapse could be greatly reduced by having the buildings ready to be brought down in a controlled way. ..."
"... All this would have to be kept secret as noone would work in a building lined with explosives. However the insurance companies, and the owner of the building would know, and this would explain the comments made by silverstein (comments that he himself never clarified). ..."
"... This may all be completely wrong, but lets face it, explosives did bring these buildings down. ..."
"... http://topdocumentaryfilms.com ...How about a 5 hour video that methodically refutes and explains the flaws of virtually every aspect of the 'official story', in particular the shamefully flawed NIST report ..."
"... There were no pyroclastic flows at WTC. That's obvious by the fact that pieces of intact paper lay everywhere, something that would be impossible if a hot cloud covered the area. ..."
"... The reason that you have to resort to esoteric explanations for what happened at WTC is that you believe lies about what happened at WTC. ..."
"... If you really believe that this was done by hydrocarbon based fires begun by burning jet fuel you are beyond hopeless. ..."
"... Why do you trust the government so much? That to me is idiotic. History has proven pretty much every government to be corrupt. It's sheep like you that allow them to get away with it. Just keep walking sheep, don't want to fall back from the mob. ..."
"... The "accepted scholarship" is conducted almost entirely by government shills for the benefit of dumbed down Americans whose information intake is limited to Fox, CNN, and MSNBC. ..."
Sep 15, 2012 | WashingtonsBlog

... ... ...

What Do the Experts Say?

What does the evidence show about the Solomon Brothers Building in Manhattan?

Numerous structural engineers – the people who know the most about office building vulnerabilities and accidents – say that the official explanation of why building 7 at the World Trade Center collapsed on 9/11 is "impossible", "defies common logic" and "violates the law of physics":

The collapse of WTC7 looks like it may have been the result of a controlled demolition. This should have been looked into as part of the original investigation

Photos of the steel, evidence about how the buildings collapsed, the unexplainable collapse of WTC 7, evidence of thermite in the debris as well as several other red flags, are quite troubling indications of well planned and controlled demolition

In my view, the chances of the three buildings collapsing symmetrically into their own footprint, at freefall speed, by any other means than by controlled demolition, are so remote that there is no other plausible explanation

Near-freefall collapse violates laws of physics. Fire induced collapse is not consistent with observed collapse mode . . . .

How did the structures collapse in near symmetrical fashion when the apparent precipitating causes were asymmetrical loading? The collapses defies common logic from an elementary structural engineering perspective.

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Heat transmission (diffusion) through the steel members would have been irregular owing to differing sizes of the individual members; and, the temperature in the members would have dropped off precipitously the further away the steel was from the flames-just as the handle on a frying pan doesn't get hot at the same rate as the pan on the burner of the stove. These factors would have resulted in the structural framing furthest from the flames remaining intact and possessing its full structural integrity, i.e., strength and stiffness.

Structural steel is highly ductile, when subjected to compression and bending it buckles and bends long before reaching its tensile or shear capacity. Under the given assumptions, "if" the structure in the vicinity started to weaken, the superstructure above would begin to lean in the direction of the burning side. The opposite, intact, side of the building would resist toppling until the ultimate capacity of the structure was reached, at which point, a weak-link failure would undoubtedly occur. Nevertheless, the ultimate failure mode would have been a toppling of the upper floors to one side-much like the topping of a tall redwood tree-not a concentric, vertical collapse.

For this reason alone, I rejected the official explanation for the collapse .

We design and analyze buildings for the overturning stability to resist the lateral loads with the combination of the gravity loads. Any tall structure failure mode would be a fall over to its side. It is impossible that heavy steel columns could collapse at the fraction of the second within each story and subsequently at each floor below.We do not know the phenomenon of the high rise building to disintegrate internally faster than the free fall of the debris coming down from the top.

The engineering science and the law of physics simply doesn't know such possibility. Only very sophisticated controlled demolition can achieve such result, eliminating the natural dampening effect of the structural framing huge mass that should normally stop the partial collapse. The pancake theory is a fallacy, telling us that more and more energy would be generated to accelerate the collapse. Where would such energy would be coming from?

Fire and impact were insignificant in all three buildings [Again, please ignore any reference to the Twin Towers this essay focuses solely on WTC7]. Impossible for the three to collapse at free-fall speed. Laws of physics were not suspended on 9/11, unless proven otherwise

The symmetrical "collapse" due to asymmetrical damage is at odds with the principles of structural mechanics

It is virtually impossible for WTC building 7 to collapse as it did with the influence of sporadic fires. This collapse HAD to be planned

It is very suspicious that fire brought down Building 7 yet the Madrid hotel fire was still standing after 24 hours of fire. This is very suspicious to me because I design buildings for a living

The above is just a sample. Many other structural engineers have questioned the collapse of Building 7, as have numerous top experts in other relevant disciplines, including:

The collapse was too symmetrical to have been eccentrically generated. The destruction was symmetrically initiated to cause the buildings to implode as they did

Watch this short video on Building 7 by Architects and Engineers (ignore any reference to the Twin Towers, deaths on 9/11, or any other topics other than WTC7):

Fish In a Barrel

Poking holes in the government's spin on Building 7 is so easy that it is like shooting fish in a barrel.

As just one example, the spokesman for the government agency which says that the building collapsed due to fire said there was no molten metal at ground zero:


The facts are a wee bit different:

Please remember that firefighters sprayed millions of gallons of water on the fires, and also applied high-tech fire retardants. Specifically, 4 million gallons of water were dropped on Ground Zero within the first 10 days after September 11, according to the U.S. Department of Energy's Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratories:

Approximately three million gallons of water were hosed on site in the fire-fighting efforts, and 1 million gallons fell as rainwater, between 9/11 and 9/21 .

The spraying continued for months afterward (the 10 day period was simply the timeframe in which the DOE was sampling). Enormous amounts of water were hosed on Ground Zero continuously, day and night:

"Firetrucks [sprayed] a nearly constant jet of water on [ground zero]. You couldn't even begin to imagine how much water was pumped in there," said Tom Manley of the Uniformed Firefighters Association, the largest fire department union. "It was like you were creating a giant lake."

This photograph may capture a sense of how wet the ground became due to the constant spraying:

murphy Arguments Regarding the Collapse of the World Trade Center Evaporate Upon Inspection
In addition, the fires were sprayed with thousands of gallons of high tech fire-retardants.

The fact that there were raging fires and molten metal even after the application of massive quantities of water and fire retardants shows how silly the government spokesman's claim is.

Again, this has nothing to do with "inside job" no one was killed in the collapse of Building 7, no wars were launched based on a rallying cry of "remember the Solomon Brothers building", and no civil liberties were lost based on a claim that we have to prevent future WTC7 tragedies.

It is merely meant to show that government folks sometimes lie even about issues tangentially related to 9/11.

Pooua > Wolfen Batroach • 2 years ago

Why would the Insiders bother blowing Building 7? Indeed, why would the Insiders bother with WTC at all? Exactly what were the motivations of the Insiders supposed to be?

JusticeFor911 > Pooua

Larry Silverstein had a magic ball that told him to insure the buildings for "terrorist attacks". In February of 2002, Silverstein was awarded $861,000,000 for his insurance claims from Industrial Risk Insurers. His initial investment in WTC 7 was only $386,000,000.

I'd say nearly half of $1,000,000,000.00 was the primary cause to include this building with the towers. Keep in mind that President Bush's brother Marvin was a principal in the company Securacom that provided security for the WTC, United Airlines and Dulles International Airport. Are dots connecting yet?

Pooua > JusticeFor911

If you buy a new car, you take out full coverage insurance on it. Insuring billion-dollar buildings is standard procedure, especially when one had already suffered a terrorist attack. You insinuation is nothing but gossip and suggestion.

No, Securacom did not provide security for WTC; that's the job of the Port Authority of NY & NJ. Securacom had a contract to perform a limited service for PANYNJ, and Marvin Bush was only a bit player (he was on the board of directors) in the company. Your paranoid ramblings are lies.

IBSHILLIN > Pooua

Perhaps after the first couple of attempted attacks on the WTC in the 90's they had a good look at what would happen if an attack was successful. Perhaps they then decided that the massive collateral damage from a partial or messy collapse could be greatly reduced by having the buildings ready to be brought down in a controlled way.

All this would have to be kept secret as noone would work in a building lined with explosives. However the insurance companies, and the owner of the building would know, and this would explain the comments made by silverstein (comments that he himself never clarified).

This may all be completely wrong, but lets face it, explosives did bring these buildings down.

Pooua > IBSHILLIN

I find it amazing that you consider yourself such an unquestionable expert that you not only feel qualified to insist that explosives brought down the WTC buildings, even in contradiction to scores of scientists, engineers and investigators of NIST, FEMA, FBI and MIT who say otherwise, and you do so without offering any evidence at all to support your bizarre claim.

No building the size of any of the WTC buildings has ever been brought down by controlled demolition, but of those that come closest, the planning took years, and the rigging took months of hard work by teams of experts working around the clock. This is not something that can be hidden.

Your suggestion is entirely preposterous and without merit.

ihaveabrain > Pooua

explain this? You are smarter than these experts? http://www.hulu.com/watch/4120...

NIST, FEMA, FBI and MIT are worthless entities! What about the experts in that documentary? Nanothermite brought them down smart guy!

Pooua > ihaveabrain • 25 days ago

You posted a 1.5-hour video. I am not here to watch a 1.5-hour video; I'm here to discuss the topic of the collapse of WTC 7. If you have something to say, say it here.

NIST has been the premier standards body used by the US government for a century, covering virtually every aspect of engineering and public safety in this country. It employes thousands of scientists, engineers and technicians. For you to claim that it is a worthless entity is idiocy on your part.

linked1 > Pooua • 24 days ago

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com ...How about a 5 hour video that methodically refutes and explains the flaws of virtually every aspect of the 'official story', in particular the shamefully flawed NIST report

You claim to want to discuss the topic of the collapse of WTC-7 but you can't be bothered to watch painstakingly researched documentaries that include thousands of witnesses, victims, scientists, and structural professionals.

You ought to educate yourself before calling other's claims 'worthless idiocy'. You are wrong, and history will prove you wrong.

Pooua > linked1

I've been reading arguments about 9/11 for two years. I've been arguing about other issues for the last 25 years, at least since I took a class in classical logic. What you need to understand is, you aren't arguing anything when you send me off to listen to someone else. The other guy might be arguing something, but you aren't doing anything. And, the fact that I've spent two years reading everything I could find on the subject makes me strongly suspect that this five-hour video would be just a waste of my time.

If you want to discuss this matter, then discuss it. Don't send me off to spend hours of my time listening to someone else. You explain it. If you can't explain it, then you don't understand it, and you are wasting everyone's time.

mulegino1 . > Pooua

The levels of energy required to turn most of the Twin Towers and WTC7 into nanoparticles (thus the pyrocastic flow which only occurs in volcanic eruptions and nuclear detonations) would be thousands of orders of magnitude greater than airliner impacts and hydrocarbon based office fires, which are claimed to have initiated a "gravity collapse".

How could a "gravity collapse" perfectly mimic the detonation of a small tactical nuclear device or devices-electromagnetic pulse, molten lava and a mushroom cloud?

Pooua > mulegino1

I want you to look at this image from the WTC on 9/11. It shows the debris after the Towers collapsed. Does this look like nanoparticles to you? Most of the debris was bigger than a man's fist.

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There were no pyroclastic flows at WTC. That's obvious by the fact that pieces of intact paper lay everywhere, something that would be impossible if a hot cloud covered the area.

The reason that you have to resort to esoteric explanations for what happened at WTC is that you believe lies about what happened at WTC.

mulegino1 . > Pooua

If you really believe that this was done by hydrocarbon based fires begun by burning jet fuel you are beyond hopeless.

There was indeed a pyroclasticas flow as anyone with youtube can determine for themselves.

Pooua > WilliamBinney • a year ago

It is your job to do more than make idiotic, speculative assertions and pretend that constitutes a reason for disregarding the government's account of the event. Yet, you all have completely failed to do anything except expose your own inability to account for the events of that day.

Dizzer13 > Pooua • a year ago

Why do you trust the government so much? That to me is idiotic. History has proven pretty much every government to be corrupt. It's sheep like you that allow them to get away with it. Just keep walking sheep, don't want to fall back from the mob.

mulegino1 . > Pooua • 2 years ago

The "accepted scholarship" is conducted almost entirely by government shills for the benefit of dumbed down Americans whose information intake is limited to Fox, CNN, and MSNBC.

The official narrative is so ludicrous from any standpoint that the "debunkers" resort to wildly implausible scenarios in order to convince the above cited demographic that the government and the major national media were reporting factual information when in fact they were reading from a script. And it was a very poorly written script. The Bin Laden bogeyman was already being invoked before the buildings exploded.

What you've got here is a pseudo-religious narrative designed to so enrage the dumbed down sheeple that they will lash out in their fury against virtually anyone designated by the powers that be as the enemy- a Sorelian myth.

Like any false narrative, the official story breaks down at the level of discrete facts and can only survive as a holistic mythologized, meta-historical events.

[Mar 19, 2015] '9-11 was an inside job' Full speech by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at UN

Sep 23, 2010 | youtube.com

[Mar 19, 2015] New 9-11 photos 'prove WTC exploded from inside'

Feb 11, 2010 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX_UKdqoa_o

New picture releases are shedding light on September 11th, some say they prove that the assault on America proves a homegrown attack. The new photos are provided by US national institute of standards and technology. There are over 2,000 new photos that have been made public. Manny Badillo says that you see an explosion from the inside, not what it has seemed to be, he says there has never been a building taken down by a plane.

[Mar 19, 2015] George W. Bush Confronted on 9-11 & war crimes in Florida!

[Mar 18, 2015] 9-11 Truth Judges shocked by first time seeing video of WTC 7 collapse in Denmark court

See also 10th Anniversary TV Ad - Remember Building 7 and Geraldo Rivera Does 911 Truth Segment About Building 7
Mar 18, 2015 | wtfrly.com

Three judges in Denmark watched in “astonishment” last week as they saw the collapse for the first time of World Trade Center Building 7, the third collapsed building in the September 11th attacks.

We got the opportunity, for once, to present a video of World Trade Centre 7 collapsing, in court, … at that time I recognised a state of astonishment among the three judges…. I understand, as usual, that none of them had heard or seen the collapse of Building 7 before.”

The exchange came as part of an appeal in the Eastern High Court in Copenhagen to a libel suit which was dismissed by a lower court. Niels Harrit sued over comments by Journalist Søren K. Villemoes calling him a “crackpot” over Harrit’s description of the building’s collapse.

The legal consideration at issue is whether the Weekendavisen journalist’s statement was libellous, comparing Niels Harrit with creationists and holocaust deniers, but the presentation of evidence against collapse from fire is a key point. The video of the collapse was looped and shown 3 times during the case.

Harrit also highlighted to the judges the fact that the Building 7 collapse was not part of the official 9/11 Commission report.

He mentioned that the judges wanted to clearly understand his statements and he explained that the official investigation did not include analysis of the Building 7 collapse but part of a separate investigation years later.

9-11 & Iraq Revisited Remembering How We Were Lied Into War by Will Porter

September 19, 2014 | Antiwar.com

Since the cataclysmic events that took place on the morning of September 11th 2001, an extended series of consequences have unfolded with an alarming rapidity. Between vast escalations of military activity abroad, the passing of draconian laws, like the Patriot Act and the NDAA, the instituting of the Department of Homeland Security, and the ramping up of domestic spy programs through the NSA, 9/11 has served as a catalyst for a radical change in how America conducts itself both at home and around the world. In the weeks and months following the incident, the American people were bombarded with a veritable hurricane of bald-faced lies and assertions based on dubious "intelligence". Before they could begin to wrap their heads around the significance of the events taking place around them, their government had already set plans into motion to wage a decades-long military conflict in the Middle East, a conflict which rages at full force to this day. In fact, recent developments in Iraq regarding the Islamic State militant group, or ISIS, elevate the issue of the 2003 Iraq War to the highest importance.

Among the general populace, a widely-accepted narrative has developed which attempts to make sense of all that has happened since September 11th. Very broadly, the narrative contends that Islamic extremists have declared war on the United States, and this alone serves to explain and justify the long string of wars that have been waged in the name of the global "War on Terrorism" ever since. What’s most surprising about the public narrative is that it offers almost no explanation at all of how or why Iraq was, directly or indirectly, implicated in the 2001 terror attacks on New York and DC. At best, the public storyline suggests only a vague connection between Saddam Hussein and the al-Qaeda terrorist organization. Any substantial explanation of this tie, however, has seemingly fallen away into the ethereal memory hole of American historical conscience.

Of the many oft-repeated talking points which comprise the terror war narrative, the question of the highest importance almost always goes unasked: why exactly did the United States wage war against Iraq in the first place? It is extremely peculiar that the largest-scale, most significant conflict to date in the war on terrorism has no widely-understood explanation. Those who have paid the highest price to initiate this war, the American people, seem to be the least informed on the matter. It is because of this lack of understanding regarding Iraq in particular that the terror war was ever able to get underway, and, indeed, build up a seemingly unstoppable momentum.

On this 13th anniversary of the September 11th attacks, which initiated the drive for war, it is vital to return to these basic questions. How did this happen? Who was involved? What justifications were given to go into Iraq in the first place? After more than a decade, the American people still cannot provide firm answers to such questions. To understand the broader war on terror, and how it came to dominate American foreign policy, it is necessary to fill in the blanks of the official narrative, as well as overturn some of the prevailing falsehoods about Iraq, WMDs, and its connection to al-Qaeda.

In basic terms, the official US government justification for the Iraq War goes something like this: Saddam Hussein was a material supporter of terrorist groups like al-Qaeda – particularly the Islamic militant Abu Musab Zarqawi – offering safe harbor and/or training facilities for them in Iraq. On top of this is the related claim that Hussein was actively pursuing "weapons of mass destruction," using "mobile bio-weapons labs," as well as "aluminum tubes" for centrifuges in a reconstituted nuclear weapons program. In his alleged link to militant Islam – and his ties to Palestine in the case of Zarqawi, a Jordan-born Palestinian – Saddam was said to have planned to provide Iraq’s weapons to terrorists, who would act as his proxies. For these reasons, Iraq was said to be a threat to its neighbors, and a threat to the United States. These claims are officially stated in a 2002 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE), but also informally circulated in TV and print news media in the run up to the war.

While the Bush Administration explicitly refrained from directly accusing Saddam of complicity in the 9/11 attacks, they were certainly happy to let the American people believe there was a direct connection between the two. After all, many thought, why would the US ever wage a war against Iraq, seemingly as a result of 9/11, if Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11? Due to the disjointed and incoherent Administration narrative, and the mainstream media’s willingness to freely speculate on all matters pertaining to 9/11, Iraq, and terror, the American people were left to rationalize and put two-and-two together on their own, often concluding that Saddam and September 11th were related.

The only explicit attempt to tie 9/11 to Iraq was in the claim that lead 9/11 hijacker, Mohammad Atta, made contact with Iraqi intelligence at a meeting in Prague. Later, additional allegations derived from "Israeli security sources" assert that an Iraqi agent furnished Atta with an "anthrax flask" at the same meeting. Some suggested also that Iraq was involved in the 2001 anthrax-letter attacks that took place shortly after 9/11, targeting media outlets as well as Senators Patrick Leahy and Thomas Daschle (who both, coincidentally, happened to oppose the invasion of Iraq). All the talk of anthrax, no matter how baseless, ultimately helped to terrorize the American people and warm them up to the idea of war with Iraq. Finally, but no less important, we have the documents, curiously supplied by an Italian intelligence agency (SISMI), which were claimed to prove Saddam’s attempt to procure 500 tons of yellowcake uranium from Niger. Sprinkle in a little Wilsonian talk of "spreading democracy," and you’ve got yourself a war.

As we shall see, absolutely none of the casus belli presented to the American people had any resemblance to reality. Through a complex network of government officials – primarily connected to the Pentagon and the office of the Vice President – media pundits and journalists – such as Judith Miller, others at the New York Times, and the PNAC crowd at the Weekly Standard – as well as foreign sources – Iraqi ex-pats as well as Italian and Israeli intelligence – the Iraq War was set off without a hitch; built upon, in the words of Colin Powell, a "web of lies."

An essential link in the chain was the Pentagon-created Office of Special Plans (OSP). Established in 2002, this agency lies at the very heart of the War Party push to invade Iraq. Through this Office, headed by Abram Shulsky under the authority of Undersecretary for Policy Douglas Feith, "intelligence" was funneled into important or influential places, such as the office of Vice President Cheney via his Chief of Staff, Louis "Scooter" Libby. In one case, information was even directly leaked by Douglas Feith to Bill Kristol’s neocon rag, the Weekly Standard, demonstrating, in part, the state-media complicity in misleading the American people. Additional players linked to the OSP, to name only a few, include NESA bureau head William Luti, Defense Policy Board members Richard Perle and former Republican Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, as well as neocon Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, whose prior informal intelligence activity with Feith was officially codified in the creation of the OSP. Its primary task was to dig through raw intelligence agency information, unaccompanied by the judgment of a professional analyst, in order to ham-fistedly piece together official justifications for war.

According to retired U.S. Air Force Lieutenant Colonel and former Pentagon desk officer Karen Kwiatkowski, who worked closely with senior Pentagon staff such as William Luti, higher-up officials in the OSP were "willing to exclude or marginalize intelligence products that did not fit the agenda." To that end, information disseminated from this office was carefully cherry-picked and highly exaggerated, with much of it gleaned from the Iraqi expat group the Iraqi National Congress (INC). Presiding over the INC was Ahmed Chalabi, essentially a double agent for the Ayatollah, who temporarily served a vital purpose for his neo-conservative dupes.

Chalabi dazzled neocons with talk of a future "Hashemite Kingdom" in Iraq (referring to Jordan; diplomatically and economically friendly with Israel). He was selected by administration war hawks as early as the Gulf War to lead the Iraqi political march to remove Saddam Hussein from power. Exiled from Iraq, and a convicted bank fraudster, Chalabi weaseled his way into high position in the post-Saddam Iraqi state after helping the Bush Administration successfully bamboozle their way in. Later on, to the horror of his former US colleagues, his trueloyalties were discovered, revealing an epic betrayal of the War Party in favor of his long-held Iranian connections. As an influential figure among pro-war ideologues, Chalabi was able to carefully sway events to Iran’s benefit in ways which his neocon handlers were oblivious of. Despite this double-cross, it was Chalabi and his INC "heroes in error" who provided many of the intelligence sources that were vital in the push for invasion. For example, in a New York Times piece by Judith Miller, she cites a meeting, arranged by the INC, with an "Iraqi defector," claiming there to be "renovations at sites for chemical and nuclear arms" in Saddam’s Iraq. With the popular news media parroting the government’s claims, it helped to quickly move along the pro-war policy.

In the end, nothing regarding the claims of "aluminum tubes," initially insisted on by the CIA’s WINPACcenter, was true. The same goes for the "arms sites" and "mobile weapons labs," both of which were sourced from Iraqi defectors. All of these talking points were, as well, used in Colin Powell’s speech to the United Nations in February of 2003, a speech which was crucial in the green-lighting of the American-led coalition to invade Iraq. The lies in that speech, as well as the ones told in the 2002 NIE cited above, are officially debunked by a 2004 Senate Report (download PDF in link) which cites intelligence community conclusions on the various fraudulent claims. None of the information used to bolster the WMD story held any weight, and a large portion of the US intelligence community had said so all along. This was not just a big mistake, it was intelligence deliberately concocted, or presented wildly out of context, in order to send the nation (back) to war, to finish the job started in the 1991 Iraq conflict.

Official skepticism toward Bush Administration claims of Saddam’s weapons, as well as his ties to terror is illustrated the leaked UK intelligence documents, known as the "Downing Street Memos". These memos depict high-ranking UK officials expressing concern over whether the Administration was "fixing" intelligence around a pro-war policy, rather than a policy around intelligence. Before, during, and after the war, there were a multitude of intelligence sources, as well as a fairly large body of journalism, which conveyed deep skepticism toward the dubious pro-war talking points. There certainly were dissenting voices in the lead up to the war; these voices simply went unheeded and unheard, at least until after the invasion. The mainstream media chose, instead, to create an echo chamber for the flurry of false claims emanating from the Bush Administration and the tightly-knit group of neo-conservatives in high office or positions of public influence.

Also proven false in the 2004 Senate Report are the allegations of Saddam attempting to purchase yellowcake uranium from the Nigerian government in 1999-2000. The documents passed along from Italian intelligence, in fact, turned out to be the crudest of forgeries! From October of 2002 to March of 2003, the CIA, as well as the IAEA, expressed doubts about the information contained in the documents, yet this didn’t stop President Bush from invoking it in his State of the Union address of January 2003. Indeed, the CIA’s skepticism was either discounted or completely circumnavigated in order to push this particular piece of intelligence.

Of much interest here is the 2005 La Republica exposé (translation) which explores the antics of one Rocco Martino, an Italian peddler of information who worked with Italian, and at times French, intelligence. Martino and a number of associates, looking for a quick way to make money, were able to use various intelligence assets to attain access to outdated Nigerian documents. Using official stamps and letterhead stolen from the Nigerian Embassy in Rome, this group of rapacious rogues crudely pieced together the stale documents to create the forgery, which they hoped to sell. They were initially handed off to SISMI and to the French, who quickly saw them for what they were. But much changed after 9/11 and the Bush Administration’s mad scramble for Saddam-WMD intelligence. At this point, SISMI finds new willingness to share the documents with the CIA station in Rome, while Martino gives them over to British MI6. The information makes its way to the Bush Administration, where it is eventually used in the 2003 SOTU address in the form of sixteen ambiguous words. Following the rest of this story, with its possible ties to a police sting, Iran, Israel, and Michael Ledeen, will lead us down quite a deep rabbit-hole, which due to space limitations simply cannot be elaborated on here.

Finally it should also be briefly noted that the more recent scandal involving the outing of undercover agent Valerie Plame is heavily related to her husband’s investigation of the forged Niger documents. The Wilson-Plame Niger investigation clearly probed too close to the truth, leading to an attempted career assassination at the behest of powerful people.

Another key example of botched intelligence is the claim of the meeting in Prague between Mohammad Atta and Iraqi intelligence, as well as the later attempt to link this meeting with anthrax. The Prague meeting was initially reported by Czech officials, although there were various conflicting accounts, where different Czech officials deny the meeting ever happened. An interesting parenthetical note, when Dick Cheney cited these reports in a TV interview to confirm the 9/11-Iraq tie, he refers to "Czechoslovakia," a country which had not existed since Czech-Slovak split in 1993. This certainly could have been a simple slip of the tongue, but it seems that, assuming Cheney himself had seen the Czech report, it’d be fresh enough in his mind to at least get the country’s name right!

Mark Rossini, a former FBI counter-terrorism agent given the task of analyzing the Czech report on the Prague meeting, recalls his reaction to the Cheney interview: "I remember looking at the TV screen and saying, ‘What did I just hear?’ And I–first time in my life, I actually threw something at the television because I couldn’t believe what I just heard." A 2006 Select Committee on Intelligence report repeats this conclusion, held among US intelligence circles, that the Prague meeting was dubious at best, definitely not solid enough base a military invasion on. Since this meeting likely never occurred, there is no need to provide further evidence to disprove the claim, sourced from "Israeli security," that a flask full of anthrax was given to Atta during the meeting.

Aside from the Prague-anthrax connection, further attempts were made to link the anthrax-letter attacks to both the 9/11 hijackers and, again, to Iraq. The letters themselves contained messages that were so deliberately suggestive of hijacker involvement that it strikes one as suspicious, proclaiming "09-11-01, this is next," and "Death to America, death to Israel." Bryan Ross at ABC repeatedly said, with increasing degrees of certainty, that it was very likely from Saddam Hussein’s anthrax program. He sourced three or four unnamed "well placed people," which if true might suggest that Ross was purposely mislead by government agents who wished to anonymously disseminate false information.

Despite the massive FBI probe into the case, no definitive answers were ever provided as to who was responsible. The total incompetency of the FBI, however, didn’t stop independent journalists from delving into the case themselves. From these investigations came a series of very strange discoveries, not the least of which was the likelihood that the specific anthrax strains used in the letter-attacks originated in US Army labs! Although two different people were selected as "fall-men," the baseless accusations against neither of them stuck. The second of the two, one Dr. Ayaad Assaad, an Egyptian-American scientist, worked at the Fort Detrick facility from which samples of anthrax, among other dangerous biological compounds, went missing years before the letter-attacks. In later, seemingly unrelated, events at Fort Detrick, Dr. Assaad’s colleagues, primarily a group led by a man named Phillip Zack, engaged in bizarre and juvenile harassments against him. This same Phillip Zack was a suspect in a 1992 internal Army inquiry, thought to be making unauthorized access, by cover of night, to a biological compounds lab, where pathogens like anthrax, Ebola, and the Hanta virus had gone missing.

Moreover, in late September 2001, an anonymous letter sent to the FBI in Quantico, Virginia alleging that Dr. Assaad was behind a terrorist plot to use biological agents in the United States. This accusatory letter was sent after the anthrax-letters were mailed, but before they were discovered to contain anthrax. This suggests that some third-party, somebody other than Dr. Assaad, had foreknowledge of the attacks. Tying things together, in the missive accusing Assaad it is also stated that the author had formerly worked with him, demonstrating fairly extensive knowledge of Assaad’s career at USAMRIID.

Although the true culprits of the 2001 anthrax-letter attacks remain a mystery, this highly peculiar series of events seems to suggest there is much more to the story than simply another act of terrorism perpetrated by the same group responsible for the 9/11 attacks (or Iraq, as Bryan Ross asserted). One might speculate that this Phillip Zack, or somebody closely related, had a hand in the anthrax-letters, based on his suspected past unauthorized access to pathogens labs, his proven hatred for Dr. Assaad, and the strange letter sent by an alleged former colleague of Assaad’s, ascribing the guilt to him. There is more to be said about this long story, however what matters here is not the identity of the culprit, but the fact that despite almost zero solid evidence pointing to Iraq, nor to the 9/11 hijackers, influential people in the government and media were more than willing to accept such an event as a pretext for war; behind closed doors with the former, out in the open with the latter.

In the end, most of the high-ranking US officials involved in kicking off the Iraq invasion have subsequently come out to admit there were no WMDs, and no ties between Hussein and al-Qaeda. While they admit they made mistakes, most of them, unbelievably, deny they ever made claims about nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons. They also deny ever asserting there were ties between Saddam and al-Qaeda. Needless to say, there are mountains of direct evidence proving without a shadow of a doubt that these people are complete liars, guilty of the highest crimes against humanity imaginable.

The Iraq War has often been blamed on faulty intelligence alone, and for some of the people involved this may well be true. However, what’s clear is that within the intelligence community itself, there was all along a basic consensus of the doubts regarding Bush Administration claims. The intelligence is not to be blamed, but those who wielded it in dishonest and outright corrupt ways.

What’s more are the absolutely damning ties between the neocon cabal largely responsible for the war, and the Israeli foreign policy apparatus. There is a long and extensive history of neo-conservative groups’ – especially the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) – involvement in the crafting of both Israeli and Americanpolicy, as well as garnering immense tax-dollar support for the Israeli state. Perhaps this is best illustrated in a 1996 Israeli policy paper entitled "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," authored by neocon figurehead David Wurmser, with signers-on Richard Perle and Douglas Feith, among others.

Here they outline a plan regarding how Israel should deal with its neighboring Arab states. Working with allies Jordan and Turkey, they hope to "contain, destabilize, and roll-back some of [Israel’s] most dangerous threats." This includes countries like Syria, Lebanon, and Iran – most of whom the US has taken an increasingly aggressive posture toward. Iraq also is said to a valuable prize, with the removal of Saddam Hussein from power a priority. Indeed, for many years, long before 9/11, this very same group of hardline Israel-firsters sought to influence American policy toward war with Iraq as well, in large part to serve Israeli interests, alongside military-industrial ones. The 9/11 attacks were obviously used as justification to execute this plan, to get a regime change in Iraq. To these neocons, American and Israeli state-security interests are one in the same, certainly regarding Iraq, as well as the aggressive Zionism (illustrated in the "Yinon Plan") which characterizes Israeli policy, both domestic and foreign.

This incestuous neocon-Israeli involvement in the crafting of state-policy should, of course, come as no surprise. This is a well-known phenomenon, not any sort of speculative conspiracy fringe. Israel not only has long-standing ties with influential conservative movers-and-shakers in the foreign policy field, but also a history of deceptive and outright murderous behavior all around. From the decades of military occupation of the Palestinian people, the Israeli spying on American institutions, the multiple cases of Israeli (or Israel-related, through AIPAC) theft of sensitive US intelligence-related secrets, the theft of uranium in the 1950s to build nuclear bombs with, to their deliberate attempt to sink the USS Liberty in June of 1967, Israel has quite a deranged history indeed.

As with most matters of policy, the Iraq War was certainly not pushed by only one single set of interests. Things aren’t so simple. The Israel-first neocon crowd had a very important role to play, but in the end this was a confluence of many inter-locking interest groups. Political campaigning, military-industrial interests, oil, and, especially in the case of Bush Jr., personal ambition; these also were part of the incentive-structure for a pro-war policy. All of the people responsible for this war did not necessarily have to be unified in a grand conspiracy in order to push for the same policy-objective. Indeed, it just goes to show the way in which disparate and varying interest groups can come together in agreement where their individual motivations and values meet. It is sometimes easy to ascribe a collective agency to government actors, but these are still human beings we’re speaking of here. Each individual, in reality, acts according to the values placed on his own given ends in the situation he finds himself in.

I have hardly even begun to broach the voluminous content of the Iraq War chronicles, but this short review should alone serve to prove the case. The United States government, or rather a militant clique within its most powerful and influential agencies, sent this nation to war, based on fraudulent pretexts, with a largely disarmed and impoverished adversary. Between the 1990s sanctions, which lead to the deaths of 500,000 children, the one million people killed in the war of 2003, and many more millions displaced – their homes in ruin and their lives destroyed – the toll taken on the Iraqi people has been devastating. From 1990-2012, it is estimated 2-3 million Iraqis were killed or died, due to the economic sanctions, the two wars waged by the US government, and the Civil War which broke out during the second occupation.

Let us never forget how easily this happened, as we are faced with yet anotherattempt to send troops to Iraq. For almost a half-century now, the United States has constantly intervened in Iraq, and to what avail? Of all the trillions of dollars, the millions of lives, the rivers of blood poured into the country, it has only given rise to the most brutal, out of control problem to date: the Islamic State. ISIS is currently rampaging across Iraq and Syria, taking entire swaths of territory and proclaiming the establishment of a long-sought Islamic Caliphate.

As the United States, with its Mid-East allies the Turks and Saudis, continues to funnel material support to the "moderate" anti-Assad rebels in Syria, they fund and back precisely the same people they claim to oppose in Iraq. The anti-Assad rebels and the pro-caliphate jihadists are, in many cases, the very same militant groups. Considering these issues, it is long, long, overdue that the American people and, less likely, the politicians who make US policy, reexamine the issue of the Middle East, and the long-standing practice of US foreign intervention in general. If 50 years of failed policy, the colossal waste of money and resources, as well as the resulting blowback can’t teach us this lesson, I do not know what ever would.

At least encouraging was the strong majority stance of the American people to absolutely reject the notion of US military involvement in Syria around September of last year. But for any hope to avoid future bloodshed and destruction, it is vital that we internalize the lessons of the past. We must abandon the idea that history began last week, and always return to the past in order to inform our knowledge of the present and the future. For that reason, after the anniversary of the most horrific example of blowback this country has ever seen, let us never forget Iraq.

A special thank you is reserved for independent researcher, author, and filmmaker RyanDawson. Both his film "War by Deception" and his personal correspondence were invaluable. Another big thanks to radio show host Scott Horton, who took the time to go over this essay and offer many needed resources and corrections.

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