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Shadow of STASI over the USA: Wiretaps of Trump and his associates during Presidential elections

False flag operations and falsifications were used to obtain FISA warrants.
"Instead of Cubans (Watergate) Hillary had the FBI....."

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Trump when in Moscow did rent the same room where Obama and Michel did sleep before. Than he did hire a three Russian prostitutes who performed striptease for him while he played with himself. the scene culminated by three prostitutes peeing on the bed on which Obama and Michel slept. In my opinion this total idiotic BS made up story.

The second angle against Trump is that Russians told through some intermediary that they have some dirt on Hillary and they want a meeting with Trumps son.

This is quite a double idiocy of the idiocy before, Because it denigrate the Russian diplomacy to some wild tribe in Amazon. Even if they wanted to meet with Trump's son, they would never acknowledge the intermediary of the purpose of the meeting.

In my opinion the people who submitted on basis of this request for FISA should be hanged for stupidity, and judge who signed it of, should be locked in mental institution for life. Imagine how shameful and deranged the US politicians are at highest level of government.

Democrats draw conclusion that Trump should resign or be impeached because he is vulnerable to blackmail by Russians. In the second case they are trying to prove that there was collusion with Russia. Both cases are only pile of manure. So here is the state of American politics -- –manure.

Ilyana_Rozumova, February 7, 2018 at 1:30 am GMT

Obama usually does not  want  to expose himself in such, potentially illegal, actions. CIA exists exactly for this type of operations. Most probably FBI liaison with CIA Strzok was used. Nunes memo proved that  Steele dossier  was used as a bait to obtain FISA warrant for wiretapping (that's probably what Strzok meant then he spoke about "insurance" against Trump victory).  Facts speak for themselves:

And likely there were others. 10 Ways the CIA 'Russian Hacking' Story is Left-Wing 'Fake News'

The Obama administration has a history of manipulating intelligence for political gain.

The most under-reported scandal of Obama’s presidency was the CENTCOM scandal, in which it emerged that “senior U.S.

Central Command (CENTCOM) leaders manipulated intelligence assessments in 2014 and 2015 to make it appear that President Barack Obama is winning the war against the Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL).” There is even more reason to doubt the truth of a selective leak about the election.

Looks like they went beyond manipulation of intelligence.

ilsm -> im1dc... March 04, 2017 at 04:00 PM 

Obama's response states I did not authorize them. Like he don't sell guns to jihadis. This is very serious!

Instead of Cubans (Watergate) Hillary had the FBI.....

What Nunes memo tell us about  cyberspace false flag operations and use of US neoliberal MSM to create an arbitrary witch hunt

Everybody understood that the system is pretty well rigged on federal level and there two levels of justice -- one for neoliberal "masters of the universe" who are by-and-large above the law, and another for shmucks.  That's not a news.  The news is the level of sophistication is escaping the changes and use of the accusation of hacking  falsified via false flag operation as a new smokescreen to pass the blame to selected scapegoat.

Here we see very successful efforts to unleash Neo-McCarthyism campaign and put all the blame for Hillary defeat on Russians, which later was extended into the color revolution against Trump of falsified changed of Russia collision. Few people understand the US MSM is just a propaganda department of the US intelligence agencies and do their bidding. The fact that at some point CIA controlled major journalists was known from Church commission hearings. And there was some backlash. But now the situation reversed and due to the regime to total surveillance their capability to dictate the agenda far exceed the level that was in the past.

moreover, now CIA cyberwarriors can cook any accusation using their "technical capabilities" and spread is using subservant MSM in a matter of days creating the wave of hate which  far exceed what was described in famous dystopian novel 1984 by George Orwell.  Refuting those "cooked" intrusions (which are a new and very nasty form of false flag operations) is difficult what when (and if) it is done, typically it is too late. As Hermann Goering said (Hermann Goering War Games):

“Of course the people don’t want war. But after all, it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.”

— Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

... ... ...

His comments were made privately to Gustave Gilbert, a German-speaking American intelligence officer and psychologist who was granted free access by the Allies to all the prisoners held in the Nuremberg jail. Gilbert kept a journal of his observations of the proceedings and his conversations with the prisoners, which he later published in the book Nuremberg Diary. The quote offered above was part of a conversation Gilbert held with a dejected Hermann Goering in his cell on the evening of 18 April 1946, as the trials were halted for a three-day Easter recess.

Paradoxically while the value of cyberspace for offensive operations against adversaries is unclear, it is clear that it has tremendous potential for conducting false flag operations serving as a pretext for real wars, or some "Show trials" of dissidents in best Stalin traditions. and witch hunt against Trump is a just form of Show Trials in a court of public opinion.

Everything can be forged in cyberspace -- source of attack, attack methods. Fake personalities like Guccifer 2.0 can be created to support the accusations.  Sky is the limit for false flag operations in cyberspace.  Steele dossier in this sense is old school falsification. It is "DNC hack" that is the harbinger of things to come.

Sky is the limit for false flag operations in cyberspace.  Steele dossier in this sense is old school falsification. It is "DNC hack" that is the harbinger of things to come.

We may feel uneasy by the idea that people now could be so easily manipulated into sacrificing themselves in wars at the whims of the neoliberal elite, but perhaps we can be more concerned (and maybe even scared) at the thought that the capabilities to deceive us are now greater not less that it was before. Much greater. They now really can create "artificial reality" using MSM.

In any case capabilities of intelligence agencies to hatch and then inject into MSM "DNC hack style disinformation" to blackmail a major political figure using a "cyberspace" false flag operation are now enormous. Even POTUS can be the target of such blackmail.  In this sense the current Russiagate hysteria makes Joseph McCartney like a pretty uninventive, even somewhat dull guy with very limited capabilities to frame his victims ;-) Recently even Nunes was accused (with impunity) to be a Russian agent.   This is "communists under each bed" type of witch hunt on a new level.

Now we know that Russiagate was initially the criminal plot to exonerate Hillary and derail Sanders campaign hatched by intelligence community in cooperation with connected members of Clinton campaign like John Podesta (who as a former WH chief of staff has deep connections to "intelligence community".)  Intelligence agencies and journalists connected with intelligence services were recruited and the well planned obfuscation campaign started. which later morphed into color regulation against Trump (typical for color revolution charges of rigged election were replaced by accusation of "collision" with foreign power.)  All this  was done with full cooperation and eager participation of NYT, WaPo, CNN. MSNBC and other neoliberal outlets. As the result in May 2016 a Special Prosecutor was appointed to take care of Trump removal. 

Sanders did not have the courage to switch to alternative Open Convention to get a nomination from Democratic Party. He was so aftraid (or was threatened, the meaning of his visit with Obama is not known) that he chose to betray his voters and support Hillary. So with the help of neoliberal MSM a brazen plot to exonerate Hillary Clinton from a clear violation of the law (with regard to the way she handled classified information with her private email server; absolutely a crime, absolutely a felony) did succeed.  In this  sense Russiagate is in reality FBI-gate. 

It is an established fact that Comey and the senior DOJ officials conducted a fake criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton. Following none of the regular rules, gave her every break in the book, immunized all kinds of people, allowed the destruction of evidence, no grand jury, no subpoenas, no search warrant. That was not an investigation, that was a Potemkin village. It was a farce.

DOJ should convene grand jury to indict the major players (whose in high positions in DOJ and FBI should be fired). If like torturers in Bush II era  will not be  brought to justice this is just another sign that the USA is neither a republic not a democracy.

Unfortunately Trump while a good tactician, is not strategic thinker on any level. He might have some courage which allowed him to fire Comey, and then tell that truth to American people that this firing is about "Russiagate".  But you need more that courage to take on "deep state". You need to have a plan.  You need to have a coalition.  And we do not  know if Trump was threatened or not (see Chuck Schumer remark above.) He should address the nation from Oval Office and tell that FBI story can only be believed by people with IQ below 70.  And that DOJ should immediately appoint a Special Prosecutor investigating  this matter. But this will most probably just a fantasy.

Summarizing we can say that "FISA memo" is a testimony of tremendous personal courage of Nunes (note that one neoliberal MSM jerk already accused him being a Russian spy).  He did tremendous job driven by noble motives of restoring justice. And his memo undermined the  Color revolution against Trump by making Mueller position more vulnerable as he is clearly a member of the gang of FBI Mayberry Machiavellians. It also put Rosenstein into defensive position.  But this is an uphill battle and he might lose at the end of the date. The neoliberal swamp is way too powerful and can consume even such courageous people as Nunes. 

 


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[Nov 12, 2018] Obama s CIA Secretly Intercepted Congressional Communications About Whistleblowers

Highly recommended!
So the USA Congress operates under CIA surveillance... Due to CIA access to Saudi money the situation is probably much worse then described as CIA tried to protect both its level of influence and shadow revenue streams.
Notable quotes:
"... The idea that the CIA would monitor communications of U.S. government officials, including those in the legislative branch, is itself controversial. But in this case, the CIA picked up some of the most sensitive emails between Congress and intelligence agency workers blowing the whistle on alleged wrongdoing. ..."
"... I am not confident that Congressional staff fully understood that their whistleblower-related communications with my Executive Director of whistleblowing might be reviewed as a result of routine [CIA counterintelligence] monitoring." -- Intelligence Community Inspector General 2014 ..."
"... The disclosures from 2014 were released late Thursday by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). "The fact that the CIA under the Obama administration was reading Congressional staff's emails about intelligence community whistleblowers raises serious policy concerns as well as potential Constitutional separation-of-powers issues that must be discussed publicly," wrote Grassley in a statement. ..."
"... According to Grassley, he originally began trying to have the letters declassified more than four years ago but was met with "bureaucratic foot-dragging, led by Brennan and Clapper." ..."
"... Back in 2014, Senators Grassley and Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) had asked then-Director of National Intelligence Clapper about the possibility of the CIA monitoring Congressional communications ..."
"... CIA security compiled a report that include excerpts of whistleblower-related communications and this reports was eventually shared with the Director of the Office of Security and the Chief of the Counterintelligence Center" who "briefed the CIA Deputy Director, Deputy Executive Director, and the Chiefs of Staff for both the CIA Director and the Deputy Director ..."
"... During Director Clapper's tenure, senior intelligence officials engaged in a deception spree regarding mass surveillance," said Wyden upon Clapper's retirement in 2016. ..."
Nov 02, 2018 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Sharyl Attkisson,

Newly-declassified documents show the CIA intercepted sensitive Congressional communications about intelligence community whistleblowers.

The intercepts occurred under CIA Director John Brennan and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. The new disclosures are contained in two letters of "Congressional notification" originally written to key members of Congress in March 2014, but kept secret until now.

In the letters, then-Intelligence Community Inspector General Charles McCullough tells four key members of Congress that during "routing counterintelligence monitoring of Government computer systems," the CIA collected emails between Congressional staff and the CIA's head of whistleblowing and source protection. McCullough states that he's concerned "about the potential compromise to whistleblower confidentiality and the consequent 'chilling effect' that the present [counterintelligence] monitoring system might have on Intelligence Community whistleblowing."

The idea that the CIA would monitor communications of U.S. government officials, including those in the legislative branch, is itself controversial. But in this case, the CIA picked up some of the most sensitive emails between Congress and intelligence agency workers blowing the whistle on alleged wrongdoing.

"Most of these emails concerned pending and developing whistleblower complaints," McCullough states in his letters to lead Democrats and Republicans on the House and Senate Intelligence Committees at the time: Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-California) and Saxby Chambliss (R-Georgia); and Representatives Michael Rogers (R-Michigan) and Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Maryland). McCullough adds that the type of monitoring that occurred was "lawful and justified for [counterintelligence] purposes" but

"I am not confident that Congressional staff fully understood that their whistleblower-related communications with my Executive Director of whistleblowing might be reviewed as a result of routine [CIA counterintelligence] monitoring." -- Intelligence Community Inspector General 2014

The disclosures from 2014 were released late Thursday by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). "The fact that the CIA under the Obama administration was reading Congressional staff's emails about intelligence community whistleblowers raises serious policy concerns as well as potential Constitutional separation-of-powers issues that must be discussed publicly," wrote Grassley in a statement.

According to Grassley, he originally began trying to have the letters declassified more than four years ago but was met with "bureaucratic foot-dragging, led by Brennan and Clapper."

Grassley adds that he repeated his request to declassify the letters under the Trump administration, but that Trump intelligence officials failed to respond. The documents were finally declassified this week after Grassley appealed to the new Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson.

History of alleged surveillance abuses

Back in 2014, Senators Grassley and Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) had asked then-Director of National Intelligence Clapper about the possibility of the CIA monitoring Congressional communications. A Congressional staffer involved at the time says Clapper's response seemed to imply that if Congressional communications were "incidentally" collected by the CIA, the material would not be saved or reported up to CIA management.

"In the event of a protected disclosure by a whistleblower somehow comes to the attention of personnel responsible for monitoring user activity," Clapper wrote to Grassley and Wyden on July 25, 2014, "there is no intention for such disclosure to be reported to agency leadership under an insider threat program."

However, the newly-declassified letters indicate the opposite happened in reality with the whistleblower-related emails:

"CIA security compiled a report that include excerpts of whistleblower-related communications and this reports was eventually shared with the Director of the Office of Security and the Chief of the Counterintelligence Center" who "briefed the CIA Deputy Director, Deputy Executive Director, and the Chiefs of Staff for both the CIA Director and the Deputy Director."

Clapper has previously come under fire for his 2013 testimony to Congress in which he denied that the national Security Agency (NSA) collects data on millions of Americans. Weeks later, Clapper's statement was proven false by material leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.

"During Director Clapper's tenure, senior intelligence officials engaged in a deception spree regarding mass surveillance," said Wyden upon Clapper's retirement in 2016.

"Top officials, officials who reported to Director Clapper, repeatedly misled the American people and even lied to them."

Clapper has repeatedly denied lying, and said that any incorrect information he provided was due to misunderstandings or mistakes.

Clapper and Brennan have also acknowledged taking part in the controversial practice of "unmasking" the protected names of U.S. citizens - including people connected to then-presidential candidate Donald Trump - whose communications were "incidentally" captured in US counterintelligence operations. Unmaskings within the US intelligence community are supposed to be extremely rare and only allowed under carefully justified circumstances. This is to protect the privacy rights of American citizens. But it's been revealed that Obama officials requested unmaskings on a near daily basis during the election year of 2016.

Clapper and Brennan have said their activities were lawful and not politically motivated. Both men have become vocal critics of President Trump.

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Keter , 5 hours ago link

"ah, ah, ah, em, not intentionally." Clapper - ROFL

numapepi , 9 hours ago link

Can you imagine what kind of place the US would have been under Clinton?!!!!!!

All the illegality, spying, conniving, dirty tricks, arcancides, selling us out to the highest bidder and full on attack against our Constitution would be in full swing!

Chaotix , 9 hours ago link

When intel entities can operate unimpeded and un-monitored, it spells disaster for everyone and everything outside that parameter. Their operations go unnoticed until some stray piece of information exposes them. There are many facilities that need to be purged and audited, but since this activity goes on all over the world, there is little to stop it. Even countries that pledge allegiance and cooperation are blindsiding their allies with bugs, taps, blackmails, and other crimes. Nobody trusts nobody, and that's a horrid fact to contend with in an 'advanced' civilization.

numapepi , 9 hours ago link

Almost sounds like the Praetorian guard?

The real power behind the throne.

Rhys12 , 10 hours ago link

Forget the political parties. When the intelligence agencies spy on everyone, they know all about politicians of both parties before they ever win office, and make sure they have enough over them to control them. They were asleep at the switch when Trump won, because no one, including them, believed he would ever win. Hillary was their candidate, the State Department is known overseas as "the political arm of the CIA". They were furious when she lost, hence the circus ever since.

iAmerican10 , 11 hours ago link

From its founding by the Knights of Malta the JFK&MLK-assassinating, with Mossad 9/11-committing CIA has been the Vatican's US Fifth Column action branch, as are the FBI and NSA: with an institutional hiring preference for Roman Catholic "altared boy" closet-queen psychopaths "because they're practiced at keeping secrets."

Think perverts Strzok, Brennan, and McCabe "licked it off the wall?"

Smi1ey , 11 hours ago link

We need to bring back FOIA.

Too much secrecy.

And how is that Pentagon audit doing, btw?

Chaotix , 9 hours ago link

I agree with you 100%. Problem is, tons of secret technology and information have been passed out to the private sector. And the private sector is not bound to the FOIA requests, therefore neutralizing the obligation for government to disclose classified material. They sidestepped their own policies to cooperate with corrupt MIC contractors, and recuse themselves from disclosing incriminating evidence.

archie bird , 12 hours ago link

Everyone knows that spying runs in the fam. 44th potus Mom and Gma BOTH. An apple doesn't fall from the tree. If ppl only knew the true depth of the evil and corruption we would be in the hospital with a heart attack. Gilded age is here and has been, since our democracy was hijacked (McCain called it an intervention) back in 1963. Unfortunately it started WAY back before then when (((they))) stole everything with the installation of the Fed.

Dornier27 , 15 hours ago link

The FBI and CIA have long since slipped the controls of Congress and the Constitution. President Trump should sign an executive order after the mid terms and stand down at least the FBI and subject the CIA to a senate investigation.

America needs new agencies that are accountable to the peoples elected representatives.

greasyknees , 16 hours ago link

Not news. The CIA likely has had access to any and all electronic communication for at least a decade.

Lord JT , 19 hours ago link

what? clapper and brennan being dirty hacks behind the scenes while parading around as patriots? say it aint so!

Racin Rabitt , 20 hours ago link

A determined care has been used to cultivate in D.C., a system that swiftly decapitates the whistleblowers. Resulting in an increasingly subservient cadre of civil servants who STHU and play ostrich, or drool at what scraps are about to roll off the master's table as the slide themselves into a better position, taking advantage to sell vice, weapons, and slaves.

Westcoastliberal , 21 hours ago link

What the hell does the CIA have to do with ANYTHING in the United States? Aren't they limited to OUTSIDE the U.S.? So why would they be involved in domestic communications for anything? These clowns need to be indicted for TREASON!

5onIt , 22 hours ago link

Clapper and Brennan, Brennan and Clapper. These two guys are the damn devil.

It makes me ill.

MuffDiver69 , 22 hours ago link

I'll take " Police State" for five hundred Alex

[Nov 12, 2018] It should be abundantly clear by now that the Democratic Party leadership will be selecting a CIA connected candidate in 2020 in all ways identical to Hillary Clinton but perhaps with a less tawdry past and less of an appetite for Goldman-Sachs speaking fees by Louis Proyect

Notable quotes:
"... Donald Trump has been transforming American society not by legislation but by using his executive powers to put people in charge of government agencies who are inimical to their stated goals. It is like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse ..."
"... By contrast, Trump is imposing a regime that was incubated long ago by people such as Grover "Starve the Beast" Norquist and every other libertarian think-tank funded by the Koch Brothers et al. The big bourgeoisie might not like the bad taste, racism and thuggish behavior of the Trump administration but they couldn't be happier with the results. This is an elected government that has fulfilled its deepest policy aspirations and that shows a willingness to push the Democrats back on their heels, so much so that someone like Mikie Sherrill lacks the courage to defend policies that might win elections down the road. After all, if she is unseated, she can always go back to a job as a federal prosecutor in New Jersey. What happens to someone working in Walmart's is not her business, after all. ..."
Nov 09, 2018 | www.counterpunch.org

Ever since the Democratic Party abandoned its New Deal legacy and adopted the neoliberal centrism associated with the Carter presidency and then cast in stone by the Democratic Leadership Council in 1985, each election loss has generated a chorus of remonstrations in the left-liberal press about the need to run "progressive" candidates if the party wants to win. The latest instance of this was a post to the Jacobin FB page that stated: "By running to the right, Democrats insist on losing twice: at the polls and in constructing an inspiring agenda. Bold left-wing politics are our only hope for long-term, substantive victory."

The question of why Democrats are so okay with losing has to be examined closely. In some countries, elections have huge consequences, especially in Latin America where a job as an elected official might be not only a source of income for a socialist parliamentarian but a trigger for a civil war or coup as occurred in Costa Rica in 1948 and in Chile in 1973 respectively.

In the 2010 midterm elections, there was a massive loss of seats in the House of Representatives for the Democrats. In this month's midterm elections, the Democrats hoped that a "Blue Wave" would do for them what the 2010 midterms did for the Republicans -- put them in the driver's seat. It turned out to be more of a "Blue Spray", not to speak of the toothless response of House leader Nancy Pelosi who spoke immediately about how the Democrats can reach across the aisle to the knuckle-dragging racists of the Republican Party.

Out of curiosity, I went to Wikipedia to follow up on what happened to the "losers" in 2010. Did they have to go on unemployment? Like Republicans who got voted out this go-round, Democrats had no trouble lining up jobs as lobbyists. Allen Boyd from Florida sent a letter to Obama after the BP oil spill in 2010 asking him to back up BP's claim that seafood in the Gulf of Mexico was okay to eat. After being voted out of office, he joined the Twenty-First Century Group, a lobbying firm founded by a former Republican Congressman from Texas named Jack Fields. A 1980 article on Fields describes him as a protégé of ultraright leader Paul Weyrich.

Glenn Nye, who lost his job as a Virginia congressman, his considerable CV that included working for the Agency for International Development (AID) and serving in various capacities during the occupation of Iraq to land a nice gig as Senior Political Advisor for the Hanover Investment Group.

John Spratt from South Carolina was described by Dow Jones News as "one of the staunchest fiscal conservatives among House Democrats." That was enough for him to land a job with Barack Obama's National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform that was supposed to come up with a strategy to reduce the deficit. Just the sort of thing that was calculated to lift the American economy out of the worst slump since the 1930s. Not.

Pennsylvania's Chris Carney was a helluva Democrat. From 2002 to 2004, he was a counterterrorism analyst for the Bush administration. He not only reported to Douglas Feith in the Office of Special Plans and at the Defense Intelligence Agency, researching links between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein, but served as an interrogator in Guantanamo. These qualifications landed him a job as director of homeland security and policy strategy for BAE Systems when the House of Representatives gig ended. A British security and munitions powerhouse, BAE won a contract worth £4.4bn to supply the Saudis with 72 fighter jets – some of which were used to bomb Red Cross and Physician Without Borders hospitals in Yemen.

With such crumb-bums losing in 2010, you'd think that the Democrats would be convinced that their best bet for winning elections would be to disavow candidates that had ties to the national security apparatus and anything that smacked of the DLC's assault on the welfare state. Not exactly. When the candidates are female, that might work in the party's favor like sugar-coating a bitter pill.

In Virginia, former CIA officer Abigail Spanberger and retired Navy Commander Elaine Luria defeated Republican incumbents. Air Force veteran Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania, former CIA analyst Elissa Slotkin of Michigan, and former Navy pilot Mikie Sherrill of New Jersey also helped the Democrats regain the House. Sherill calculated that moving to the center would serve her own and the party's interests. She told MSNBC: "As a Navy helicopter pilot I never flew Republican missions or Democratic missions, I would have had a very short career. This is something I do think vets bring to the table, this willingness to work with everyone."

An article titled "' Montclair Mikie' Sherrill recast as 'Moderate Mikie' as Webber attacks in NJ House race " described her Road to Damascus conversion to DLC principles:

For Sherrill, a newcomer to politics, the 11th has proved to be a tricky terrain. She is seen as a progressive, but appears wary of carrying the "Trump resistance" banner into the fray. At Wednesday's debate, Sherrill was determined to show she is more Morris Plains than Montclair.

There were no heated vows to fight Trump, even though being "appalled" by the president was what motivated her to run in the first place. The Nov. 6 midterms loom as a referendum on Trump's presidency, but you would never have guessed that watching Wednesday's contest.

Sherrill repeatedly promised to be bipartisan -- a far cry from the combative, confrontational tone that many in the party's grass roots are demanding.

On tax policy she sounded more centrist Republican than mainstream liberal Democrat, and she refused to endorse issues like free community college tuition, which has become a popular talking point for Democrats and was launched by Gov. Phil Murphy this summer.

"Without understanding how that would be paid for, I haven't supported it because it sounds like it would raise taxes on our families,'" she said.

The moderate tone puzzled some of her ardent "resistance" activists who mobilized around her candidacy.

For Eric Fritsch, 32, a Teamster for the film and television industry from West Orange, it was jarring to hear Sherrill oppose Democratic Party wish-list items like free community college tuition or "Medicare-for-all" coverage out of fear that it may raise taxes. She used the same excuse to sidestep supporting a "carbon tax" to reduce global warming.

"By going on the defensive about taxes she is accepting a Republican framing that we don't want to be responsible with taxes in the first place,'" said Fritsch, who insisted that he remains a "very enthusiastic" Sherrill supporter.

It should be abundantly clear by now that the Democratic Party leadership will be selecting a candidate in 2020 in all ways identical to Hillary Clinton but perhaps with a less tawdry past and less of an appetite for Goldman-Sachs speaking fees. Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden, Andrew Cuomo, et al have no intention of allowing upstarts like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to spoil their plans, even if it means a second term for Donald Trump.

No matter. Jacobin editor Bhaskar Sunkara urges his readers and DSA comrades to plunge ahead trying to consolidate a "socialist" caucus in the Democratic Party. From his perspective, working in the Democratic Party seems to be the "most promising place for advancing left politics, at least in the short term." Keep in mind that Sherrill raised $1.9 million for her campaign and my old boss from Salomon Brothers Michael Bloomberg ponied up another $1.8 million just for her TV ads. Does anybody really think that "socialist" backed candidates will be able to compete with people like Sherrill in the primaries? Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was able to defeat the hack Joe Crowley on a shoestring but that was something of a fluke. Until there is a massive shake-up in American society that finally reveals the Democratic Party to be the capitalist tool it has been since Andrew Jackson's presidency, it is likely that a combination of big money and political inertia will keep the Democratic Party an agent of reaction.

Furthermore, the takeover of the House might turn out to be a hollow victory in the light of how Trump rules. His strategy hasn't been to push through legislation except for the tax cut. Remember the blather about investing in infrastructure? His minions in Congress have no intention of proposing a trillion or so dollars in highway or bridge repair, etc. With Nancy Pelosi fecklessly talking about how the two parties can collaborate on infrastructure, you can only wonder whether she has been asleep for the past two years.

Donald Trump has been transforming American society not by legislation but by using his executive powers to put people in charge of government agencies who are inimical to their stated goals. It is like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse as Malcolm X once put it. Two days ago, the NY Times wrote about how the "Trump Administration Spares Corporate Wrongdoers Billions in Penalties". It did not need legislation to help big banks rip off the public. All it took was naming former head of BankOne Joseph Otting comptroller of the currency. Senator Sherrod Brown, one of the few Democrats with a spine, called Trump out: "The president's choice for watchdog of America's largest banks is someone who signed a consent order -- over shady foreclosure practices -- with the very agency he's been selected to run."

For all of the dozens of articles about how Trump is creating a fascist regime, hardly any deal with the difference between Trump and Adolf Hitler. Hitler created a massive bureaucracy that ran a quasi-planned economy with generous social benefits that put considerable restraints on the bourgeoisie. Like FDR, he was taking measures to save capitalism. Perhaps if the USA had a social and economic crisis as deep as Germany's and left parties as massive as those in Germany, FDR might have embarked on a much more ambitious concentration camp program, one that would have interred trade unionists as well as Japanese-Americans. Maybe even Jews if they complained too much.

By contrast, Trump is imposing a regime that was incubated long ago by people such as Grover "Starve the Beast" Norquist and every other libertarian think-tank funded by the Koch Brothers et al. The big bourgeoisie might not like the bad taste, racism and thuggish behavior of the Trump administration but they couldn't be happier with the results. This is an elected government that has fulfilled its deepest policy aspirations and that shows a willingness to push the Democrats back on their heels, so much so that someone like Mikie Sherrill lacks the courage to defend policies that might win elections down the road. After all, if she is unseated, she can always go back to a job as a federal prosecutor in New Jersey. What happens to someone working in Walmart's is not her business, after all.

[Nov 10, 2018] CIA's 'Surveillance State' is Operating Against US

Nov 10, 2018 | www.moonofalabama.org

BM , Nov 10, 2018 5:56:10 AM | link

Whilst on the topic of ISIS, here is an article about its mother-concern, CIA:

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/11/09/cia-surveillance-state-operating-against-us-all.html
CIA's 'Surveillance State' is Operating Against US All

On two declassified letters from 2014 from the Intelligence Community Inspector General (didn't know there was one, but doesn't do much good anyway, it seems, read further) to the chairpersons of the House and Senate intelligence committees notifying them that the CIA has been monitoring emails between the CIA's head of the whistleblowing and source protection and Congressional. "Most of these emails concerned pending and developing whistleblower complaints". Shows why Edward Snowdon didn't consider it appropriate to rely on internal complaints proceedures. This while under the leadership of seasoned liars and criminals Brennan and Clapper, of course.

It clearly shows a taste of what these buggers have to hide, and why they went to such extraordinary lengths as Russiagate to cover it all up and save their skins - that of course being the real reason behind Russiagate as I have said several times, nothing to do with either Trump or Russia.

guidoamm , Nov 10, 2018 1:32:52 AM | link

And there is this too of course:

Pentagon Fake Al Qaeda Propaganda

Anton Worter , Nov 10, 2018 12:39:39 AM | link
@4

OWS was a Controlled-Dissent operation, sending poor students north to fecklessly march on Wall Street when they could have shut down WADC, and sending wealthy seniors south to fecklessly line Pennsylvania Avenue, when they could have shut down Wall Street.

Both I$I$, and Hamas, and Antifa et al are all Controlled Dissent operations. The followers are duped, are used, abused and then abandoned by honey-pots put there by Central Intelligence, at least since the Spanish Civil War.

That's why MoA articles like this one make you wonder, just who is conning whom, at a time when the Internet is weaponized, when Google Assistant achieved AI awareness indistinguishable from anyone on the phone, China TV has launched a virtual AI news reporter indistinguishable from reality, and Stanford can audio-video a captured image of anyone as well as their voice intonation, then 3D model them, in real time, reading and emoting from a script, indistinguishable from reality, ...and then this.

Another Gift of Trust😂 brought to you by Scientocracy. Be sure to tithe your AI bot, or word will get back to Chairman Albertus, then you'll be called in to confess your thought crimes to the Green Cadre, itself another Controlled Dissent honeypot, in a Tithe-for-Credits Swindle.

I tell my kids, just enjoy life, live it large, and get ready for hell. It's coming for breakfast.

[Nov 10, 2018] Hacking operations by anyone, can and will be used by US propagandists to provoke Russia or whoever stands in the way of the US war machine

Nov 10, 2018 | www.moonofalabama.org

Harry Law , Nov 10, 2018 9:11:40 AM | link

Hacking operations by anyone, can and will be used by US propagandists to provoke Russia or whoever stands in the way of the US war machine, take this Pompeo rant against Iran and the Iranian response......

Asking of Pompeo "have you no shame?", Zarif mocked Pompeo's praise for the Saudis for "providing millions and millions of dollars of humanitarian relief" to Yemen, saying America's "butcher clients" were spending billions of dollars bombing school buses. Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif issued a statement lashing Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for his recent comments on the Yemen War. Discussing the US-backed Saudi invasion of Yemen, Pompeo declared Iran to be to blame for the death and destruction in the country. https://news.antiwar.com/2018/11/09/iran-fm-slams-pompeo-for-blaming-yemen-war-on-iran/

The US way of looking at things supposes that up is down, and white is black, it makes no sense, unless the US hopes these provocations will lead to a war or at the very least Russia or Iran capitulating to US aggression, which will not happen. Sanctions by the US on all and sundry must be opposed, if not the US will claim justifiably to be the worlds policeman and the arbiter of who will trade with who, a ludicrous proposition but one that most governments are afraid is now taking place, witness the new US ambassador to Germany in his first tweet telling the Germans to cease all trade with Iran immediately.

https://www.thelocal.de/20180509/us-tells-german-businesses-to-stop-trade-in-iran-immediately

[Oct 23, 2018] Russiagate 2.0 Now with more stupid

Notable quotes:
"... I've come to the realization that the MSM and our government are using a very different definition of "democracy" and "democratic institutions" than the one in the dictionary. Their version of "democracy" is all about national security and financial interests, and have very little to do with elections and popular will. ..."
"... ideas and opinions ..."
"... @The Voice In the Wilderness ..."
"... ideas and opinions ..."
"... @The Voice In the Wilderness ..."
"... @The Voice In the Wilderness ..."
"... @enhydra lutris ..."
"... @enhydra lutris ..."
"... @enhydra lutris ..."
"... @The Liberal Moonbat ..."
"... , surprised the special counsel in April when they actually showed up in court to fight the charges ..."
"... "There is no statute of interfering with an election. There just isn't," said Dubelier, who added that Mueller's office alleged a "made-up crime to fit the facts they have." ..."
Oct 23, 2018 | caucus99percent.com
gjohnsit
We can soon forget Russia's "meddling" in the 2016 election (or lack of meddling ), because the Justice Department is already throwing down indictments for meddling in the 2018 midterm elections.
Russians working for a close ally of President Vladimir V. Putin are engaging in an elaborate campaign of "information warfare" to interfere with the American midterm elections next month, federal prosecutors said on Friday in unsealing charges against a woman whom they labeled the project's "chief accountant."

Information warfare? That sounds serious. So what exactly is her objectives?

But this time, prosecutors said the operatives appeared beholden to no particular candidate. Russia's trolls did not limit themselves to either a liberal or conservative position, according to the complaint. They often wrote from diverging viewpoints on the same issue.

Uh, that's called trolling, and if trolling is against the law then 4Chan should watch out.
It seems that trolling now equals fraud .

It isn't just Russia. China and Iran are meddling as well.

In a joint statement, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Justice Department, FBI and Department of Homeland Security said they "do not have any evidence" that foreign countries have disrupted the voting process or changed any tallies , but that the campaigns have spread "disinformation" and "foreign propaganda."

"We are concerned about ongoing campaigns by Russia, China and other foreign actors, including Iran, to undermine confidence in democratic institutions and influence public sentiment and government policies," the statement said. "These activities also may seek to influence voter perceptions and decision making in the 2018 and 2020 U.S. elections."

So how exactly are they defrauding the American public? As for "undermine confidence in democratic institutions", we already know that we are an oligarchy , not a democracy. So I think the burden of evidence is on our government to prove otherwise, not on Russia.

I've come to the realization that the MSM and our government are using a very different definition of "democracy" and "democratic institutions" than the one in the dictionary. Their version of "democracy" is all about national security and financial interests, and have very little to do with elections and popular will.

Leftists aren't cooperating on Russiagate

You would think from the MSM that Russiagate is "liberals" versus Trump, and that everyone on "the left" is OK with this.
But even some in the media have noticed that leftists that don't identify as Democrats are Russiagate skeptics.

Why Are So Many Leftists Skeptical of the Russia Investigation?

Why the left needs to wise up to the growing Trump-Russia scandal

and of course TOP is fully onboard

The Voice In th... on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 4:28pm
So what specifically was illegal?

@gjohnsit
AFAIK, all those facebook posts would be legal if posted by someone in the USA.
Are foreign ideas illegal now? are ideas and opinions illegal?

You would think from the MSM that Russiagate is "liberals" versus Trump, and that everyone on "the left" is OK with this.
But even some in the media have noticed that leftists that don't identify as Democrats are Russiagate skeptics.

Why Are So Many Leftists Skeptical of the Russia Investigation?

Why the left needs to wise up to the growing Trump-Russia scandal

and of course TOP is fully onboard

gjohnsit on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 5:33pm
Consider Russia's "crimes" with RT

@The Voice In the Wilderness
This is supposed to be bad from the official report

RT aired a documentary about the OccupyWall Street movement on 1, 2, and 4 November. RT framed the movement as a fight against "the ruling class" and described the current US political system as corrupt and dominated by corporations.

RT advertising for the documentary featured Occupy movement calls to "take back" the government. The documentary claimed that the US system cannot be changed democratically, but only through "revolution." After the 6 November US presidential election, RT aired a documentary called "Cultures of Protest," about active and often violent political resistance

RT's reports often characterize the United States as a "surveillance state" and allege widespread infringements of civil liberties, police brutality, and drone use

RT has also focused on criticism of the US economic system, US currency policy, alleged Wall Street greed, and the US national debt. Some of RT's hosts have compared the United States to Imperial Rome and have predicted that government corruption and "corporate greed" will lead to US financial collapse

#1 AFAIK, all those facebook posts would be legal if posted by someone in the USA. Are foreign ideas illegal now? are ideas and opinions illegal?

Linda Wood on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 11:19pm
Oh, come on.

@gjohnsit

alleged Wall Street greed

Alledged Wall Street greed?

leveymg on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 5:49pm
This criminalizes a practice that is commonplace and legal

@The Voice In the Wilderness @The Voice In the Wilderness
when carried out by employees of thousands of foreign-owned companies from countries other than Russia.

Basically, this Russian woman is being indicted for doing the books for a Russian entity that incorporated a number of US businesses. These businesses had persons write and post under pen names a number of articles dealing with political subjects. That has been interpreted by the Special Counsel as a conspiracy to violate a federal campaign law that forbids contributions to US election campaigns. That's right, the indictment construes written opinion to be the same as money contributions.

The case would probably be thrown out -- nobody has been prosecuted for this before -- however the woman indicted will never be in court to defend herself, as the prosecutor and FBI know. Mueller is getting desperate to come up with indictments to fill in his jig saw puzzle.

enhydra lutris on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 7:27pm
The supremes, infamusly, ruled that miney is speech. Hence,

@leveymg
speech must be money, n'est ce pas?
/s

leveymg on Sun, 10/21/2018 - 1:09pm
SCOTUS also found in the same case that even foreign corporate

@enhydra lutris @enhydra lutris @enhydra lutris speech is constitutionally protected and can't be limited by campaign finance legislation. Mueller appears to have decided on his own to abrogate the Citizens United decision.

That would be okay, if he applied it to prosecute political mouthpieces such as AIPAC, along with corporate fronts owned by the Saudis, Chinese, British and 100 other countries who similiarly post anonymously.

It's now undeniable: Mueller is the prosecutorial weapon of a very selective political vendetta.

snoopydawg on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 7:51pm
This is from your first link

@gjohnsit

But somewhere on the left, right around the fault line where Barack Obama is deemed to have been a bad president, opinion turns back again toward skepticism.

It gets worse from there. I'm betting that this was written by someone from the Atlantic Council or maybe Friedman's twin brother. This person sure went to a lot of work to deride anyone who doesn't believe in Russia Gate didn't he?

Facebook has almost admitted that they are censoring people and websites because of Russia's ads on it that they say affected the election. BTW. Didn't Obama also use Cambridge Analytics during his campaign and did the same things that Trump did? Pretty sure that he did. But I guess that was different because of reasons. Yep. That's why.

You would think from the MSM that Russiagate is "liberals" versus Trump, and that everyone on "the left" is OK with this. But even some in the media have noticed that leftists that don't identify as Democrats are Russiagate skeptics.

Why Are So Many Leftists Skeptical of the Russia Investigation?

Why the left needs to wise up to the growing Trump-Russia scandal

and of course TOP is fully onboard

snoopydawg on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 5:25pm
For gawd's sake!
We are concerned about ongoing campaigns by Russia, China and other foreign actors, including Iran, to undermine confidence in democratic institutions and influence public sentiment and government policies,

First off the GOP is doing a hell of a job undermining confidence in democratic institutions and the voting process by its gerrymandering and its voter ID policies. Look at what's happening in Georgia (?) where the guy running is in charge of the voting policies and is kicking thousands of people off the voting rolls.

Influence government policies you say? If millions of Americans can't do that then how could a foreign country do it? BTW. This is already happening what with all the lobbyists and super PACs. But sure. Let's blame the 3 countries that they want to war with. Anyone who believes this shit ... well I'll not finish this sentence.

gjohnsit on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 6:00pm
Russiagate is useful for crushing dissent

@snoopydawg
Look at this hit piece on Jill Stein

Months before the 2016 election they were already calling Jill Stein a "Nader spoiler" ( here , here , and here )

Funny how 3rd parties are demonized in this "democracy"

We are concerned about ongoing campaigns by Russia, China and other foreign actors, including Iran, to undermine confidence in democratic institutions and influence public sentiment and government policies,

First off the GOP is doing a hell of a job undermining confidence in democratic institutions and the voting process by its gerrymandering and its voter ID policies. Look at what's happening in Georgia (?) where the guy running is in charge of the voting policies and is kicking thousands of people off the voting rolls.

Influence government policies you say? If millions of Americans can't do that then how could a foreign country do it? BTW. This is already happening what with all the lobbyists and super PACs. But sure. Let's blame the 3 countries that they want to war with. Anyone who believes this shit ... well I'll not finish this sentence.

snoopydawg on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 6:35pm
Ugh!

@gjohnsit

There is so much BS in that article it's hard to choose which one is the worst but I'm going with this one.

But Stein's willingness to praise Russian propaganda outlets and push Kremlin talking points didn't end in Moscow. Indeed, she challenged – and arguably surpassed – Trump in crafting the most Moscow-friendly campaign of 2016.

For instance, Stein made the strange claim multiple times that NATO had "surrounded" Russia with nuclear weapons. As she told The Intercept, "This is the Cuban Missile Crisis in reverse, on steroids – in fact, on crack." (Less than 10 percent of Russia's land border touches any NATO member-states.) She also said last year that NATO is only fighting "enemies we invent to give the weapons industry a reason to sell more stuff."

This is what she actually said about NATO and Russia.

Stein: I think this is an issue where something does need to be said--but it's important to understand where they are coming from. The United States, under Bush 1, had an agreement when Germany joined NATO--Russia agreed with the understanding that NATO would not move one inch to the east. Since then NATO has pursued a policy of basically encircling Russia--including the threat of nukes and drones and so on.

Okay and this one too.

Likewise, Stein claimed that Ukraine's 2014 revolution was, in reality, a "coup" that the U.S. "helped foment." Only two other leaders have described Ukraine's toppling of former president Viktor Yanukovych as a "coup": Putin and Kazakhstani President Nursultan Nazarbayev, whose country remains a security ally of Russia. Stein even spent time last year saying that "Russia used to own Ukraine."

Pretty sure that during Obama's presidency the Ukraine government was overthrown by this country and now we're arming neo Nazis with some very bad weapons.

ThinkProgress says it's being targeted by ad networks for producing 'controversial political content'. I'm thinking it's more because they lie their asses off to people who read its website. This is the most blatant lying I've seen from a website. How many people believed every word written there?

divineorder on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 7:08pm
FWIW Jill Stein out campaigning for Greens

@gjohnsit

Join us on Sunday 10/28 to meet Jill Stein and Alameda/SF County Green candidates: Laura Wells, Saied Karamooz, Aidan Hill and Mike Murphy. to support our candidates. People,... https://t.co/EtWyo6fism

-- Santa Clara Greens (@SCCGreens) October 19, 2018

Deja on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 7:05pm
You left out the D establishment

@snoopydawg

First off the GOP is doing a hell of a job undermining confidence in democratic institutions and the voting process by its gerrymandering and its voter ID policies.

I agree with your whole comment. Just wanted to make sure we don't leave out the monster that is the Dem establishment, aka the other half of the single body that screws us every chance it gets. Supposed differences are only spoken, especially in election years. When it gets down to the meat and potatoes, our representatives are one big symbiotic meal -- the kind that gives you the shits until you're dead.

We are concerned about ongoing campaigns by Russia, China and other foreign actors, including Iran, to undermine confidence in democratic institutions and influence public sentiment and government policies,

First off the GOP is doing a hell of a job undermining confidence in democratic institutions and the voting process by its gerrymandering and its voter ID policies. Look at what's happening in Georgia (?) where the guy running is in charge of the voting policies and is kicking thousands of people off the voting rolls.

Influence government policies you say? If millions of Americans can't do that then how could a foreign country do it? BTW. This is already happening what with all the lobbyists and super PACs. But sure. Let's blame the 3 countries that they want to war with. Anyone who believes this shit ... well I'll not finish this sentence.

snoopydawg on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 7:24pm
Not for that comment

@Deja

The GOP has made it so that over 10% of the population can't vote this year. I think it's in Georgia where thousands are being kicked off the voting rolls almost every day by the dude that is in charge of it and he is also running for an office. They have been gerrymandering the country and other things. Of course the democrats don't seem to be doing much to make it easier for people to vote. But yeah, both parties are just as corrupt.

boriscleto on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 9:36pm
Georgia has purged 340,000

@snoopydawg @snoopydawg

Illinois purged 550,000...Indiana purged 20,000...etc...

snoopydawg on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 10:16pm
Thanks for the numbers and the links

@boriscleto

Isn't it Brian Kemp who is not only running for office, but he is also in a position to purge the voting rolls? This is a huge conflict of interest and some judge should have stopped him from being able to do that. I guess that's what people are suing him for?

Close to 500,000 people were not able to vote in one of the states that Trump won in. Not sure if they were Hillary's or Trump's voters though.

BTW. People are upset with Jill Stein because they think that her votes cost Hillary the election when the libertarian candidate got more votes than Jill did. And yet he's not blamed for her loss. I wonder why that is?

dervish on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 11:46pm
It's because they're sexist. n/t

@snoopydawg

#2.2.1.1

Isn't it Brian Kemp who is not only running for office, but he is also in a position to purge the voting rolls? This is a huge conflict of interest and some judge should have stopped him from being able to do that. I guess that's what people are suing him for?

Close to 500,000 people were not able to vote in one of the states that Trump won in. Not sure if they were Hillary's or Trump's voters though.

BTW. People are upset with Jill Stein because they think that her votes cost Hillary the election when the libertarian candidate got more votes than Jill did. And yet he's not blamed for her loss. I wonder why that is?

lotlizard on Sun, 10/21/2018 - 2:03am
The Dems only kick people off voting rolls in *primaries*

@Deja
That makes it all okay for "lesser of two evils" voters.

#2

First off the GOP is doing a hell of a job undermining confidence in democratic institutions and the voting process by its gerrymandering and its voter ID policies.

I agree with your whole comment. Just wanted to make sure we don't leave out the monster that is the Dem establishment, aka the other half of the single body that screws us every chance it gets. Supposed differences are only spoken, especially in election years. When it gets down to the meat and potatoes, our representatives are one big symbiotic meal -- the kind that gives you the shits until you're dead.

snoopydawg on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 5:34pm
From the ToP link
Robert Mueller's indictment of the Russians who interfered in our election is a milestone in an ongoing investigation. The charges focus on the Russians who used online social networking platforms to divide voters and disrupt the electoral process.

Changed any votes? Party affiliations? Removed people from the voting rolls? Closed down voting precincts? Didn't supply enough voting machines for high voting areas? Nope. Nope. Nope and nope. Just placed a few ads on Fakebook and most of them after the election was over. It's taken Mueller two years to look into this? If he hasn't found any evidence yet then why waste time and money worrying about China and Iran doing anything? I'm thinking that Mueller is just pretending to be investigating, but he's really spending his time golfing or whatever his favorite activities are.

Bisbonian on Sun, 10/21/2018 - 10:20am
No kidding

@snoopydawg , its like a nuclear submarine calling the teapot black.

Robert Mueller's indictment of the Russians who interfered in our election is a milestone in an ongoing investigation. The charges focus on the Russians who used online social networking platforms to divide voters and disrupt the electoral process.

Changed any votes? Party affiliations? Removed people from the voting rolls? Closed down voting precincts? Didn't supply enough voting machines for high voting areas? Nope. Nope. Nope and nope. Just placed a few ads on Fakebook and most of them after the election was over. It's taken Mueller two years to look into this? If he hasn't found any evidence yet then why waste time and money worrying about China and Iran doing anything? I'm thinking that Mueller is just pretending to be investigating, but he's really spending his time golfing or whatever his favorite activities are.

Bollox Ref on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 6:16pm
Remember all those wonderful presents

we were going to receive at Fitzmas? Hoping the Establishment is going to finally reveal its sausage-making, really is a flight of fancy. McSausage for the McResistance. The Public are to be seen at voting stations, and not heard.

divineorder on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 6:28pm
Great essay. Thanks!

Hell I am surprised they even mentioned that first part.

In a joint statement, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Justice Department, FBI and Department of Homeland Security said they "do not have any evidence" that foreign countries have disrupted the voting process or changed any tallies,

At any rate cracked up when I read Caitlin on FB this morning:

Politico Report Says Russiagaters Should Prepare To Kiss My Ass

"In a just world, everyone who helped promote this toxic narrative would apologize profusely and spend the rest of their lives being mocked and marginalized." #Mueller #TrumpRussia https://t.co/eN349xhjG3

-- Caitlin Johnstone (@caitoz) October 20, 2018

snoopydawg on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 7:28pm
In case you missed it

@divineorder

We had Great discussion about Caitlin's article. Lots of good comments.

Hell I am surprised they even mentioned that first part.

In a joint statement, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Justice Department, FBI and Department of Homeland Security said they "do not have any evidence" that foreign countries have disrupted the voting process or changed any tallies,

At any rate cracked up when I read Caitlin on FB this morning:

Politico Report Says Russiagaters Should Prepare To Kiss My Ass

"In a just world, everyone who helped promote this toxic narrative would apologize profusely and spend the rest of their lives being mocked and marginalized." #Mueller #TrumpRussia https://t.co/eN349xhjG3

-- Caitlin Johnstone (@caitoz) October 20, 2018

MrWebster on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 7:04pm
We are looking at the terminus point of the Russian hysteria.

Actually, I am thinking nuclear war with Russia may be the terminus point, but in terms of propaganda we are seeing it. I have followed the Russia hysteria since 2015 when it was in its infant stage here in the States, but advancing in Europe.

There are still some charges that Russians broke into certain accounts as Microsoft has claimed a few months back, but the claims go no where as they have to admit they had absolutely no proof. And the story fades away until a new charge is made, and those now are hard to make up.

As previous posters before in have commented above, basically the terminus point is ascribing all dissent within the Western powers as Russian created. In this charge it is impossible to to argue as no proof is needed except for the existance of dissent. No more charges which can be proved such as an actual hack. And that dissent can be for or against an issue. All issues lead to Moscow.

The huge censorship of various sites done by Facebook and Twitter begin and are justified by the Russia hysteria and "fan news".

divineorder on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 8:19pm
Aside from in your comment though, plenty wrong with Dems?

@MrWebster @snoopydawg

The long con that is #RussiaGate . https://t.co/HvTHam5Rlb pic.twitter.com/nxlRpYH26b

-- John "Squinty Forehead Man" Graziano (@jvgraz) October 18, 2018

Actually, I am thinking nuclear war with Russia may be the terminus point, but in terms of propaganda we are seeing it. I have followed the Russia hysteria since 2015 when it was in its infant stage here in the States, but advancing in Europe.

There are still some charges that Russians broke into certain accounts as Microsoft has claimed a few months back, but the claims go no where as they have to admit they had absolutely no proof. And the story fades away until a new charge is made, and those now are hard to make up.

As previous posters before in have commented above, basically the terminus point is ascribing all dissent within the Western powers as Russian created. In this charge it is impossible to to argue as no proof is needed except for the existance of dissent. No more charges which can be proved such as an actual hack. And that dissent can be for or against an issue. All issues lead to Moscow.

The huge censorship of various sites done by Facebook and Twitter begin and are justified by the Russia hysteria and "fan news".

snoopydawg on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 10:27pm
And the Vermont electrical grid that Russia hacked into the

@MrWebster

computer that wasn't even hooked up to the internet. Brennan said that Russia tried to meddle in 21?state's voting rolls, but the states said that never happened. But just like people are still saying that all 17 intelligence (3) agencies agree that Russia interfered with the election people still think that the other stuff is true. This is why spreading propaganda is so powerful. The lies are what they remember, not the retractions if they're ever given.

About those FB ads that swayed the election ...

The majority of the Russian ad spend happened AFTER the election. We shared that fact, but very few outlets have covered it because it doesn't align with the main media narrative of Tump and the election. https://t.co/2dL8Kh0hof

-- Rob Goldman (@robjective) February 17, 2018

Actually, I am thinking nuclear war with Russia may be the terminus point, but in terms of propaganda we are seeing it. I have followed the Russia hysteria since 2015 when it was in its infant stage here in the States, but advancing in Europe.

There are still some charges that Russians broke into certain accounts as Microsoft has claimed a few months back, but the claims go no where as they have to admit they had absolutely no proof. And the story fades away until a new charge is made, and those now are hard to make up.

As previous posters before in have commented above, basically the terminus point is ascribing all dissent within the Western powers as Russian created. In this charge it is impossible to to argue as no proof is needed except for the existance of dissent. No more charges which can be proved such as an actual hack. And that dissent can be for or against an issue. All issues lead to Moscow.

The huge censorship of various sites done by Facebook and Twitter begin and are justified by the Russia hysteria and "fan news".

Bisbonian on Sun, 10/21/2018 - 10:25am
by the way

@snoopydawg , there are only sixteen intelligence agencies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community

#6

computer that wasn't even hooked up to the internet. Brennan said that Russia tried to meddle in 21?state's voting rolls, but the states said that never happened. But just like people are still saying that all 17 intelligence (3) agencies agree that Russia interfered with the election people still think that the other stuff is true. This is why spreading propaganda is so powerful. The lies are what they remember, not the retractions if they're ever given.

About those FB ads that swayed the election ...

The majority of the Russian ad spend happened AFTER the election. We shared that fact, but very few outlets have covered it because it doesn't align with the main media narrative of Tump and the election. https://t.co/2dL8Kh0hof

-- Rob Goldman (@robjective) February 17, 2018

The Liberal Moonbat on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 8:38pm
NOT FROM THE ONION - oh, wait, yes it is...wait, what?

Who's on first...?

https://www.theonion.com/mueller-ready-to-deliver-major-parts-of-finding...

Bisbonian on Sun, 10/21/2018 - 10:33am
I like the comment from the Lobster Murderer the best.

@The Liberal Moonbat

Who's on first...?

https://www.theonion.com/mueller-ready-to-deliver-major-parts-of-finding...

snoopydawg on Sat, 10/20/2018 - 11:06pm
Remember the Russian agencies that Mueller charged?

He still doesn't want to give their attorneys the evidence he has against them.

Judge Orders Mueller To Prove Russian Company Meddled In Election

A Washington federal judge on Thursday ordered special counsel Robert Mueller's team to clarify election meddling claims lodged against a Russian company operated by Yevgeny Prigozhin, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to Bloomberg.

Concord Management and Consulting, LLC. - one of three businesses indicted by Mueller in February along with 13 individuals for election meddling , surprised the special counsel in April when they actually showed up in court to fight the charges . Mueller's team tried to delay Concord from entering the case, arguing that thee Russian company not been properly served, however Judge Dabney Friedrich denied the request - effectively telling prosecutors 'well, they're here.'

* Concord pleaded not guilty in May. Their attorney, Eric Dubelier - a partner at Reed Smith, has described the election meddling charges as "make believe," arguing on Monday that Mueller's indictment against Concord "doesn't charge a crime."

"There is no statute of interfering with an election. There just isn't," said Dubelier, who added that Mueller's office alleged a "made-up crime to fit the facts they have."

Concord is one of the corporations that Mueller said placed ads on FB to sway people's opinion on Trump and Hillary. The ads that most were placed after the election.

[Oct 21, 2018] FBI Admits It Used Multiple Spies To Infiltrate Trump Campaign

So intelligence agencies are now charged with protection of elections from undesirable candidates; looks like a feature of neofascism...
Notable quotes:
"... The Department of Justice admitted in a Friday court filing that the FBI used more than one "Confidential Human Source," (also known as informants, or spies ) to infiltrate the Trump campaign through former adviser Carter Page, reports the Daily Caller ..."
"... Included in Hardy's declaration is an acknowledgement that the FBI's spies were in addition to the UK's Christopher Steele - a former MI6 operative who assembled the controversial and largely unproven "Steel Dossier" which the DOJ/FBI used to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on Page. ..."
"... In addition to Steele, the FBI also employed 73-year-old University of Cambridge professor Stefan Halper, a US citizen, political veteran and longtime US Intelligence asset enlisted by the FBI to befriend and spy on three members of the Trump campaign during the 2016 US election . Halper received over $1 million in contracts from the Pentagon during the Obama years, however nearly half of that coincided with the 2016 US election. ..."
"... In short, the FBI's acknowledgement that they used multiple spies reinforces Stone's assertion that he was targeted by one. ..."
"... Stefan Halper's infiltration of the Trump campaign corresponds with the two of the four targets of the FBI's Operation Crossfire Hurricane - in which the agency sent former counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok and others to a London meeting in the Summer of 2016 with former Australian diplomat Alexander Downer - who says Papadopoulos drunkenly admitted to knowing that the Russians had Hillary Clinton's emails. ..."
"... Interestingly Downer - the source of the Papadopoulos intel, and Halper - who conned Papadopoulos months later, are linked through UK-based Haklyut & Co. an opposition research and intelligence firm similar to Fusion GPS - founded by three former British intelligence operatives in 1995 to provide the kind of otherwise inaccessible research for which select governments and Fortune 500 corporations pay huge sums ..."
"... Downer - a good friend of the Clintons, has been on their advisory board for a decade, while Halper is connected to Hakluyt through Director of U.S. operations Jonathan Clarke, with whom he has co-authored two books. (h/t themarketswork.com ) ..."
Oct 20, 2018 | www.zerohedge.com

The Department of Justice admitted in a Friday court filing that the FBI used more than one "Confidential Human Source," (also known as informants, or spies ) to infiltrate the Trump campaign through former adviser Carter Page, reports the Daily Caller .

"The FBI has protected information that would identify the identities of other confidential sources who provided information or intelligence to the FBI" as well as "information provided by those sources," wrote David M. Hardy, the head of the FBI's Record/Information Dissemination Section (RIDS), in court papers submitted Friday.

Hardy and Department of Justice (DOJ) attorneys submitted the filings in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit for the FBI's four applications for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants against Page. The DOJ released heavily redacted copies of the four FISA warrant applications on June 20, but USA Today reporter Brad Heath has sued for full copies of the documents. - Daily Caller

Included in Hardy's declaration is an acknowledgement that the FBI's spies were in addition to the UK's Christopher Steele - a former MI6 operative who assembled the controversial and largely unproven "Steel Dossier" which the DOJ/FBI used to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on Page.

The DOJ says it redacted information in order to protect the identity of their confidential sources, which "includes nonpublic information about and provided by Christopher Steele," reads the filing, " as well as information about and provided by other confidential sources , all of whom were provided express assurances of confidentiality."

Government lawyers said the payment information is being withheld because disclosing specific payment amounts and dates could "suggest the relative volume of information provided by a particular CHS. " That disclosure could potentially tip the source's targets off and allow them to "take countermeasures, destroy or fabricate evidence, or otherwise act in a way to thwart the FBI's activities." - Daily Caller

Steele, referred to as Source #1, met with several DOJ / FBI officials during the 2016 campaign, including husband and wife team Bruce and Nellie Ohr. Bruce was the #4 official at the DOJ, while his CIA-linked wife Nellie was hired by Fusion GPS - who also employed Steele, in the anti-Trump opposition research / counterintelligence effort funded by Trump's opponents, Hillary Clinton and the DNC.

In addition to Steele, the FBI also employed 73-year-old University of Cambridge professor Stefan Halper, a US citizen, political veteran and longtime US Intelligence asset enlisted by the FBI to befriend and spy on three members of the Trump campaign during the 2016 US election . Halper received over $1 million in contracts from the Pentagon during the Obama years, however nearly half of that coincided with the 2016 US election.

Stefan Halper

Halper's involvement first came to light after the Daily Caller 's Chuck Ross reported on his involvement with Carter Page and George Papadopoulos, another Trump campaign aide. Ross's reporting was confirmed by the NYT and WaPo .

In June, Trump campaign aides Roger Stone and Michael Caputo claimed that a meeting Stone took in late May, 2016 with a Russian appears to have been an " FBI sting operation " in hindsight, following bombshell reports in May that the DOJ/FBI used a longtime FBI/CIA asset, Cambridge professor Stefan Halper, to perform espionage on the Trump campaign.

Roger Stone

When Stone arrived at the restaurant in Sunny Isles, he said, Greenberg was wearing a Make America Great Again T-shirt and hat. On his phone, Greenberg pulled up a photo of himself with Trump at a rally, Stone said. - WaPo

The meeting went nowhere - ending after Stone told Greenberg " You don't understand Donald Trump... He doesn't pay for anything ." The Post independently confirmed this account with Greenberg.

After the meeting, Stone received a text message from Caputo - a Trump campaign communications official who arranged the meeting after Greenberg approached Caputo's Russian-immigrant business partner.

" How crazy is the Russian? " Caputo wrote according to a text message reviewed by The Post. Noting that Greenberg wanted "big" money, Stone replied: "waste of time." - WaPo

In short, the FBI's acknowledgement that they used multiple spies reinforces Stone's assertion that he was targeted by one.

Further down the rabbit hole

Stefan Halper's infiltration of the Trump campaign corresponds with the two of the four targets of the FBI's Operation Crossfire Hurricane - in which the agency sent former counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok and others to a London meeting in the Summer of 2016 with former Australian diplomat Alexander Downer - who says Papadopoulos drunkenly admitted to knowing that the Russians had Hillary Clinton's emails.

Interestingly Downer - the source of the Papadopoulos intel, and Halper - who conned Papadopoulos months later, are linked through UK-based Haklyut & Co. an opposition research and intelligence firm similar to Fusion GPS - founded by three former British intelligence operatives in 1995 to provide the kind of otherwise inaccessible research for which select governments and Fortune 500 corporations pay huge sums .

Alexander Downer

Downer - a good friend of the Clintons, has been on their advisory board for a decade, while Halper is connected to Hakluyt through Director of U.S. operations Jonathan Clarke, with whom he has co-authored two books. (h/t themarketswork.com )

Alexander Downer, the Australian High Commissioner to the U.K. Downer said that in May 2016, Papadopoulos told him during a conversation in London about Russians having Clinton emails.

That information was passed to other Australian government officials before making its way to U.S. officials. FBI agents flew to London a day after "Crossfire Hurricane" started in order to interview Downer.

It is still not known what Downer says about his interaction with Papadopoulos, which TheDCNF is told occurred around May 10, 2016.

Also interesting via Lifezette - " Downer is not the only Clinton fan in Hakluyt. Federal contribution records show several of the firm's U.S. representatives made large contributions to two of Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign organizations ."

Halper contacted Papadopoulos on September 2, 2016 according to The Caller - flying him out to London to work on a policy paper on energy issues in Turkey, Cyprus and Israel - for which he was ultimately paid $3,000. Papadopoulos met Halper several times during his stay, "having dinner one night at the Travellers Club, and Old London gentleman's club frequented by international diplomats."

They were accompanied by Halper's assistant, a Turkish woman named Azra Turk. Sources familiar with Papadopoulos's claims about his trip say Turk flirted with him during their encounters and later on in email exchanges .

...

Emails were also brought up during Papadopoulos's meetings with Halper , though not by the Trump associate, according to sources familiar with his version of events. T he sources say that during conversation, Halper randomly brought up Russians and emails. Papadopoulos has told people close to him that he grew suspicious of Halper because of the remark. - Daily Caller

Meanwhile, Halper targeted Carter Page two days after Page returned from a trip to Moscow.

Page's visit to Moscow, where he spoke at the New Economic School on July 8, 2016, is said to have piqued the FBI's interest even further . Page and Halper spoke on the sidelines of an election-themed symposium held at Cambridge days later. Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and Sir Richard Dearlove, the former head of MI6 and a close colleague of Halper's, spoke at the event.

...

Page would enter the media spotlight in September 2016 after Yahoo! News reported that the FBI was investigating whether he met with two Kremlin insiders during that Moscow trip.

It would later be revealed that the Yahoo! article was based on unverified information from Christopher Steele, the former British spy who wrote the dossier regarding the Trump campaign . Steele's report, which was funded by Democrats, also claimed Page worked with Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort on the collusion conspiracy. - Daily Caller

A third target of Halper's was Trump campaign co-chairman Sam Clovis, whose name was revealed by the Washington Post on Friday.

In late August 2016, the professor reached out to Clovis, asking if they could meet somewhere in the Washington area, according to Clovis's attorney, Victoria Toensing.

"He said he wanted to be helpful to the campaign" and lend the Trump team his foreign-policy experience, Toensing said.

Clovis, an Iowa political figure and former Air Force officer, met the source and chatted briefly with him over coffee, on either Aug. 31 or Sept. 1, at a hotel cafe in Crystal City, she said. Most of the discussion involved him asking Clovis his views on China.

"It was two academics discussing China," Toensing said. " Russia never came up. " - WaPo

Meanwhile, Bruce Ohr is still employed by the Department of Justice, and Fusion GPS continues its hunt for Trump dirt after having partnered with former Feinstein aide and ex-FBI counterintelligence agent, Dan Jones.

It's been nearly three years since an army of professional spies was unleashed on Trump - and he's still the President, Steele and Downer notwithstanding.

[Oct 02, 2018] Recovered memory is a Freudian voodoo. Notice how carefully manicured these charges are such that they can never be falsified? This is the actual proof she is a liar and this whole thing is staged

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Their testimony was usually highly emotional and impassioned, leaving an impression very similar to that conveyed last night by Dr. Ford. ..."
"... The "Recovered" (or "False") Memory Syndrome movement emerged in the midst of the steadily radicalizing Feminist Movement in the United States, probably at the very apogee of its extreme evolution, and was a movement in which Freudian therapy was central and Freudian therapists came to play the leading role. ..."
"... It was only after they had been subjected to extensive pseudo-scientific Freudian "therapy," in which sex always lay prominently at the center, that virtually all of these women came forward with these stories. ..."
"... nd, in this dispute the American ultra-Feminists chose to believe and preach the worst, most salacious, and most vicious possible interpretation of Dr. Freud's highly speculative, evidence-less, and – as subsequent study has overwhelmingly shown – completely contrived diagnoses. ..."
"... Beginning with a conviction that cocaine could provide a substantial therapeutic base for solving psychological problems, Freud seems himself to have become for a period a regular consumer of that drug, but subsequently altered the focus of his therapy to hypnosis. After realizing certain limitations to this approach, he shifted again, turning to the so-called "Talking Cure" rooted in provoking word associations, which provided the basis for the classic Freudian method of popular imagination – with the patient reclining on a couch and the good Dr. seated behind with his notebook and pen in hand. This is the method he retained for the rest of his life. ..."
"... The primary fault which has been cited for Freud's methods generally, but which has been particularly critiqued in both hypnosis and the "Talking Cure" as a reason for their invalidation, is the claim that both – at least inadvertently – incorporate the high probability of suggestion from the therapist. ..."
"... Analysis thus follows a circular course, the analyst's theoretical surmise being first subtly communicated to the patient, then confirmed by the patient's casting of his (or, more often her) own ideas within the framework which had been suggested by the analyst. In the end, nothing new is actually discovered. The patient merely replicates the expressed Freudian doctrine. ..."
"... Those women patients, and a few men, became their victims, but in turn became the perpetrators in the savaging of numerous men's lives, as these men were subjected to the most vicious accusations imaginable. Most of these accusations were, in retrospect, clearly fantasies in a ruthless mid-20th century male-witch hunt. ..."
"... Into this popular intellectual desert walks Dr. Ford, both whose personal history and her strange physical mannerisms in testimony before the Senate clearly indicate she has unfortunately suffered some form of serious psychological disturbance. ..."
"... Seemingly alienated from her own parents and most immediate family members, she has made her home as far away from the Washington, DC area ..."
"... In 2012 she underwent some sort of psychological counseling with her husband, though the details as far as I know have not emerged. But, it hardly seems likely coincidental that her first documentable expressions of antipathy to Judge Kavanaugh occurred in that year, when it was announced that Judge Kavanaugh was considered the likely Supreme Court appointee should Mit Romney win the Presidential election. Her expressions of antipathy to him have only grown from there. ..."
"... Use of weapons and tactics, of which the defender is unprepared for, is a good offense. ..."
"... Are Republicans et al. unable to understand basic military strategy? Do we lack the ability to conceive of new tactics and weapons to use against Democrats and Globalists? ..."
"... I realize that it is unacceptable to attack this poor helpless victim so the "it can't be corroborated" card has to be played. However, who else notices how carefully manicured these charges are such that they can never be falsified? This is the actual proof she is a liar and this whole thing is staged. ..."
"... She always takes everybody on some emotional ride right up to the point where she could be exposed but never with enough information so somebody could come out of the woodwork and prove she is a liar. ..."
"... We also have the infamous letter where we are repeatedly reminded she mailed it BEFORE Kavanaugh was picked. Of course, we only have Feinstein's word for that since nobody saw it until after this crap started. The delay was used to push up the story with new revelation about Mike Judge in a grocery store that shied away from her – again with no specific date so Judge could prove she is a liar. ..."
"... We also have all of our own recollections of high school insecurities and male-female interactions. What freshman or sophomore girl didn't get all giddy at the thought of the older guys hitting on her so she could tell all her friends about her older boyfriend ..."
"... Outside doors enter public areas kitchen sunroom living rooms not bedrooms. An outside door into a master bedroom with attached bathroom is a red flag that it's intended for an illegal what's called in law apartment ..."
"... Your post is very perceptive and just might be how it all went down. With the complications of couples' counseling over her demand for the bizarre double main entry doors. (lulz) Though I would think any family that built an illegal in-law apartment into their Palo Alto house and deployed it, would be ratted out by their neighbors. ..."
Oct 02, 2018 | www.unz.com

Nicephorus says: September 29, 2018 at 7:58 am GMT 2,000 Words

We still have to wait to see whether Judge Kavanaugh's appointment will go through, so the most important practical consequence of this shameful exercise in character assassination is as yet unknown. I'm pretty sure he'll eventually be appointed.

But, I think some critical theoretical aspects of the context in which this battle was waged were definitively clarified in the course of this shameful and hugely destructive effort by the Democrat leadership to destroy Judge Kavanaugh's reputation in pursuit of narrow political advantage. On balance, although Judge Kavanaugh and his family were the ones who had to pay the price for this bitter learning experience, all of us should be the long-term beneficiaries of this contest's central but often hidden issues being brought to light and subjected to rational analysis. I want to show what I think these hidden issues are.

What this sordid affair was all about was the zombie-like return-from-the-dead of a phenomenon exposed and pretty much completely invalidated more than thirty years ago, which never should have been permitted to raise its ugly head before an assembly of rational, educated Americans: the "Recovered Memory" (aka "False Memory") Syndrome movement of the 1980s, in which numerous troubled, frequently mentally off-balance, women (and a few men) came forward to declare that they had been the victims of incestual sexual abuse – most often actual sexual intercourse – at the hands of mature male family members; usually fathers but sometimes uncles, grandfathers, or others.

Their testimony was usually highly emotional and impassioned, leaving an impression very similar to that conveyed last night by Dr. Ford. Many hearers were completely convinced that these events had occurred. I recall having a discussion in the 1990s with two American women who swore up and down that they believed fully 25% of American women had been forced into sexual intercourse with their fathers. I was dumbfounded that they could believe such a thing. But, vast numbers of American women did believe this at that time, and many – perhaps most – may never have looked sufficiently into the follow-up to these testimonials to realize that the vast majority of such bizarre claims had subsequently been definitively proven invalid.

The "Recovered" (or "False") Memory Syndrome movement emerged in the midst of the steadily radicalizing Feminist Movement in the United States, probably at the very apogee of its extreme evolution, and was a movement in which Freudian therapy was central and Freudian therapists came to play the leading role.

It was only after they had been subjected to extensive pseudo-scientific Freudian "therapy," in which sex always lay prominently at the center, that virtually all of these women came forward with these stories. A major controversy, which arose within the ranks of the Freudians themselves over what was the correct understanding of the Master's teachings, lay at the core of the whole affair. A nd, in this dispute the American ultra-Feminists chose to believe and preach the worst, most salacious, and most vicious possible interpretation of Dr. Freud's highly speculative, evidence-less, and – as subsequent study has overwhelmingly shown – completely contrived diagnoses.

It's now known that Dr. Freud's journey to the theoretical positions which had become orthodoxy among his followers by the mid-20th century had followed a strange, little known, possibly deliberately self-obscured, and clearly unorthodox course. Beginning with a conviction that cocaine could provide a substantial therapeutic base for solving psychological problems, Freud seems himself to have become for a period a regular consumer of that drug, but subsequently altered the focus of his therapy to hypnosis. After realizing certain limitations to this approach, he shifted again, turning to the so-called "Talking Cure" rooted in provoking word associations, which provided the basis for the classic Freudian method of popular imagination – with the patient reclining on a couch and the good Dr. seated behind with his notebook and pen in hand. This is the method he retained for the rest of his life.

The primary fault which has been cited for Freud's methods generally, but which has been particularly critiqued in both hypnosis and the "Talking Cure" as a reason for their invalidation, is the claim that both – at least inadvertently – incorporate the high probability of suggestion from the therapist. In this view, patient testimony moves subtly, and probably without the patient's awareness, from whatever his or her own understanding might originally have been to the interpretation implicitly propounded by the analyst. Analysis thus follows a circular course, the analyst's theoretical surmise being first subtly communicated to the patient, then confirmed by the patient's casting of his (or, more often her) own ideas within the framework which had been suggested by the analyst. In the end, nothing new is actually discovered. The patient merely replicates the expressed Freudian doctrine.

The particular doctrine at hand was undergoing a critical reworking at this very time, and this important reconsideration of the Master's meaning almost certainly constituted a major, likely the predominating, factor which facilitated the emergence of the Recovered Memory Syndrome movement. Freudian orthodoxy at that time included as an important – seemingly its key – component the conviction of a child's (even an infant's) sexuality, as expressed through the hypothesized Oedipus Complex for males, and the corresponding Electra Complex for females. In these complexes, Freud speculated that sexually-based neuroses derived from the child's (or infant's) fear of imagined enmity and possible physical threat from the same-sex parent, because of the younger individual's sexual longing for the opposite-sex parent.

This Freudian idea, entirely new to European, American, and probably most other cultures, that children, even infants, were the possessors of an already well-developed sexuality had been severely challenged by Christian and some other traditional authorities, and had been met with repugnance from many individuals in Western society. But, the doctrine, as it then stood, was subject to a further major questioning in the mid-1980s from Freudian historical researcher Jeffrey Masson, who postulated, after examining a collection of Freud's personal writings long kept from popular examination, that the Child Sexual Imagination thesis itself was a pusillanimous and ethically-unjustified retreat from an even more sinister thesis the Master had originally held, but which he had subsequently abandoned because of the controversy and damage to his own career its expression would likely cause. This was the belief, based on many of his earlier interviews of mostly women patients, that it wasn't their imaginations which lay behind their neuroses. They had told him that they had actually been either raped or molested as infants or young girls by their fathers. This was the secret horror hidden away in those long-suppressed writings, now brought into the light of day by Prof. Masson.

Masson's research conclusions were initially widely welcomed within the psychoanalytical fraternity/sorority and shortly melded with the already raging desire of many ultra-Feminist extremists to place the blame for whatever problems and dissatisfactions women in America were encountering in their lives upon the patriarchal society by which they claimed to be oppressed. The problem was men. Countless fathers were raping their daughters. Wow! What an incentive to revolutionary Feminist insurrection! You couldn't find a much better justification for their man-hate than that. Bring on the Feminist Revolution! Men are not only a menace, they are no longer even necessary for procreation, so let's get rid of them entirely. This is the sort of extreme plan some radical Feminists advocated. Many psychoanalysts became their professional facilitators, providing the illusion of medical validation to the stories the analysts themselves had largely engendered. Those women patients, and a few men, became their victims, but in turn became the perpetrators in the savaging of numerous men's lives, as these men were subjected to the most vicious accusations imaginable. Most of these accusations were, in retrospect, clearly fantasies in a ruthless mid-20th century male-witch hunt.

This radical ideology is built upon the conviction that Dr. Freud, in at least this one of his several historical phases of interpretative psychological analysis, was really on to something. But, subsequent evaluation has largely shown that not to be the case. The same critique which had been delivered against the Child Sexual Imagination version of Freud's "Talking Cure" analytical method was equally relevant to this newly discovered Father Molestation thesis: all such notions had been subtly communicated to the patient by the analyst in the course of the interview. Had thousands, hundreds of thousands, even millions of European and American women really been raped or molested by their fathers? Freud offered no corroborating evidence of any kind, and I think it's the consensus of most competent contemporary psychoanalysts to reject this idea. Those few who retain a belief in it betray, I think, an ideological commitment to Radical Feminism, for whose proponents such a view offers an ever tempting platform to justify their monstrous plans for the future of a human race in which males are subjected to the status of slaves or are entirely eliminated.

But, the judicious conclusions of science often – perhaps usually – fail to promptly percolate down to the comprehension of common humanity on the street, and within the consequent vacuum of understanding scheming politicians can frequently find opportunity to manipulate, obfuscate, and distort facts in order to facilitate their own devious and often highly destructive schemes. Such, I fear, is the situation which has surrounded Dr. Ford. The average American of either sex has absolutely no familiarity with the history, character, or ultimate fate of the Recovered Memory Syndrome movement, and may well fail to realize that the phenomenon has been nearly entirely disproved.

Into this popular intellectual desert walks Dr. Ford, both whose personal history and her strange physical mannerisms in testimony before the Senate clearly indicate she has unfortunately suffered some form of serious psychological disturbance.

Seemingly alienated from her own parents and most immediate family members, she has made her home as far away from the Washington, DC area where she was born as possible within the territorial limits of the continental United States. The focus of her professional research and practice in the field of psychology has lain in therapeutic treatment to overcome mental and emotional trauma, a problem she has acknowledged has been her own disturbing preoccupation for many decades. In 2012 she underwent some sort of psychological counseling with her husband, though the details as far as I know have not emerged. But, it hardly seems likely coincidental that her first documentable expressions of antipathy to Judge Kavanaugh occurred in that year, when it was announced that Judge Kavanaugh was considered the likely Supreme Court appointee should Mit Romney win the Presidential election. Her expressions of antipathy to him have only grown from there.

Dr. Ford is clearly an unfortunate victim of something or someone, but I don't believe it was Judge Kavanaugh. Almost certainly she has been influenced in her denunciations against him by both that long-term preoccupation with her own sense of psychological injury, whatever may have been its cause, and her professional familiarization with contemporary currents of psychological theory, however fallacious, likely mediated by the ministrations of that unnamed counselor in 2012. Subsequently, she has clearly been exploited mercilessly by the scheming Democratic Party officials who have viciously plotted to turn her plight to their own cynical advantage. As in so many cases during the 1980s Recovered Memory movement, she has almost certainly been transformed by both the scientifically unproven doctrines and the conscienceless practitioners of Freudian mysticism from being merely an innocent victim into an active victimizer – doubling, tripling, or even quadrupling the pain inherent in her own tragic situation and aggressively projecting it upon helpless others, in this case Judge Kavanaugh and his entire family. She is not a heroine.

PiltdownMan , says: September 29, 2018 at 9:01 am GMT

A recovered memory from more than five decades ago. Violet Elizabeth, a irritating younger child who tended to tag along, often wore expensive Kate Greenaway dresses. Her family was new money. William was no misogynist, though. He liked and respected Joan, who was his friend. The second William book is online.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/17125/17125-h/17125-h.htm

Coemgen , says: September 29, 2018 at 10:35 am GMT
Rules-of-thumb
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1. A good offense is the best defense.
2. An ambush backed up by overwhelming force is a good offense.
3. Use of weapons and tactics, of which the defender is unprepared for, is a good offense.

Are Republicans et al. unable to understand basic military strategy? Do we lack the ability to conceive of new tactics and weapons to use against Democrats and Globalists?

MarkinLA , says: September 29, 2018 at 12:49 pm GMT
I realize that it is unacceptable to attack this poor helpless victim so the "it can't be corroborated" card has to be played. However, who else notices how carefully manicured these charges are such that they can never be falsified? This is the actual proof she is a liar and this whole thing is staged.

She always takes everybody on some emotional ride right up to the point where she could be exposed but never with enough information so somebody could come out of the woodwork and prove she is a liar.

We also have the infamous letter where we are repeatedly reminded she mailed it BEFORE Kavanaugh was picked. Of course, we only have Feinstein's word for that since nobody saw it until after this crap started. The delay was used to push up the story with new revelation about Mike Judge in a grocery store that shied away from her – again with no specific date so Judge could prove she is a liar. This all reeks of testimony gone over and coached by a team of lawyers.

We also have all of our own recollections of high school insecurities and male-female interactions. What freshman or sophomore girl didn't get all giddy at the thought of the older guys hitting on her so she could tell all her friends about her older boyfriend and possibility of going to the prom as a lower classman? All he had to do (assuming he wasn't repulsive physically and he was a bit of a jock) was make the usual play of pretending to be interested and he likely would have been at least getting to first base at the party.

From her pictures she was no Pamela Anderson and would likely have been flattered. The idea that you rape someone without trying to get the milk handed to you on a silver platter is ridiculous.

This is another female driven hysteria based on lies like the child molestation and satanic cult hysterias of years past. Those were all driven by crazy or politically motivated women who whipped up the rest of the ignorant females.

Clyde , says: September 29, 2018 at 12:58 pm GMT
@Anon

Outside doors enter public areas kitchen sunroom living rooms not bedrooms. An outside door into a master bedroom with attached bathroom is a red flag that it's intended for an illegal what's called in law apartment

Your post is very perceptive and just might be how it all went down. With the complications of couples' counseling over her demand for the bizarre double main entry doors. (lulz) Though I would think any family that built an illegal in-law apartment into their Palo Alto house and deployed it, would be ratted out by their neighbors.

[Oct 02, 2018] I m puzzled why CIA is so against Kavanaugh?

Highly recommended!
An interesting hypothesis. CIA definitly became a powerful political force in the USA -- a rogue political force which starting from JFK assasination tries to control who is elected to important offices. But in truth Cavanaugh is a pro-CIA candidate so to speak. So why CIA would try to derail him.
Notable quotes:
"... I think I've figured out why they had to go to couples counseling about an outside door and why she came up with claim that she needed an outside bedroom door because she'd been assaulted 37 years ago. The Palo Alto building codes for single family homes were created to make sure single family homes remained single family and weren't chopped up into apartments. ..."
"... An outside door into a master bedroom with attached bathroom is a red flag that it's intended for an illegal what's called in law apartment ..."
"... So she wants the door. Husband says waste of money and trouble. Contractor says call me when you're ready. So they go to counseling Husband explains why the door's unreasonable. Therapist asks wife why she " really deep down" needs the door. Wife makes up the story about attempted rape 35 years ago flashbacks If only there were 2 doors in that imaginary bedroom she could have escaped. ..."
"... Kacanaugh was nominated. CIA searched for sex problems in his working life. Found nothing Searched law school and college found nothing. In desperation searched high school found nothing. Searched CIA personnel records which go back to grade school and found one of their own employees was about Kavanaugh's age and attended a high school near his and the students socialized. ..."
"... She's 3rd generation CIA. grandfather assistant director. Father CIA contractor who managed CIA unofficial band accounts. And she runs a CIA recruitment office. ..."
Oct 02, 2018 | www.unz.com

Anon [257] Disclaimer says: September 29, 2018 at 8:28 am GMT 400 Words

I think I've figured out why they had to go to couples counseling about an outside door and why she came up with claim that she needed an outside bedroom door because she'd been assaulted 37 years ago. The Palo Alto building codes for single family homes were created to make sure single family homes remained single family and weren't chopped up into apartments.

Outside doors enter public areas kitchen sunroom living rooms not bedrooms. An outside door into a master bedroom with attached bathroom is a red flag that it's intended for an illegal what's called in law apartment

There's a unit It's a stove 2 ft counter space and sink. The stoves electric and plugs into an ordinary household electricity. It's backed against the bathroom wall. Break through the wall, connect the pipes running water for the sink. Add an outside door and it's a small apartment.

Assume they didn't want to make it an apartment just a master bedroom. Usually the contractor pulls the permits routinely. But an outside bedroom door is complicated. The permits will cost more. It might require an exemption and a hearing They night need a lawyer. And they might not get the permit.

So she wants the door. Husband says waste of money and trouble. Contractor says call me when you're ready. So they go to counseling Husband explains why the door's unreasonable. Therapist asks wife why she " really deep down" needs the door. Wife makes up the story about attempted rape 35 years ago flashbacks If only there were 2 doors in that imaginary bedroom she could have escaped.

Kacanaugh was nominated. CIA searched for sex problems in his working life. Found nothing Searched law school and college found nothing. In desperation searched high school found nothing. Searched CIA personnel records which go back to grade school and found one of their own employees was about Kavanaugh's age and attended a high school near his and the students socialized.

She's 3rd generation CIA. grandfather assistant director. Father CIA contractor who managed CIA unofficial band accounts. And she runs a CIA recruitment office.

I'm puzzled why CIA is so against Kavanaugh?

[Sep 29, 2018] Hopefully the FBI will investigate this collusion between Soros and the Democrats and Ms. Katz to influence the results of the judicial nomination process.

Sep 29, 2018 | www.unz.com

wren , says: September 29, 2018 at 10:37 am GMT

It seems that Flake was not only emotionally abused by those ladies in the elevator, he was played as well.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/women-screaming-at-flake-in-elevator-were-soros-funded-astroturfed-activist-leaders-not-sex-abuse-victims/

Hopefully the FBI will investigate this collusion between Soros and the Democrats and Ms. Katz to influence the results of the judicial nomination process.

[Sep 26, 2018] Soros Confirms Funding Ongoing Trump-Russia Hunt By Ex-Feinstein Staffer And Fusion GPS

Is not Soros a CIA asset? He was instrumental in "color revolutions" in Soviet Union and post Soviet republics.
This is really Byzantium level of political intrigue. A state with such a high level political intrigue might be eventually replaced by military dictatorship.
Notable quotes:
"... An aide to George Soros, Michael Vachon, has confirmed a February report that the left-wing billionaire financier has funded an ongoing effort by Fusion GPS and ex-Feinstein staffer and former FBI agent, Dan Jones, to privately continue the Trump-Russia investigation, according to the Daily Caller 's Chuck Ross. ..."
"... Vachon made the admission to the Washington Post 's David Ignatious - who has previously been accused of being a deep-state conduit. ..."
"... Daniel J. Jones - an ex-FBI investigator and former Feinstein staffer, was " intimately involved with ongoing efforts to retroactively validate a series of salacious and unverified memos published by Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence agent, and Fusion GPS. " ..."
"... In short, Jones is working with Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele to continue their investigation into Donald Trump, using a $50 million war chest just revealed by the House Intel Committee report. ..."
"... An April House Intel Report notes that in March 2017, Jones told the FBI that he was working with Steele and Fusion GPS, with funding to the tune of $50 million. ..."
Sep 26, 2018 | www.zerohedge.com
An aide to George Soros, Michael Vachon, has confirmed a February report that the left-wing billionaire financier has funded an ongoing effort by Fusion GPS and ex-Feinstein staffer and former FBI agent, Dan Jones, to privately continue the Trump-Russia investigation, according to the Daily Caller 's Chuck Ross.

Vachon made the admission to the Washington Post 's David Ignatious - who has previously been accused of being a deep-state conduit.

Ignatius notes at the end of a Tuesday article downplaying GOP assertions that the Obama administration and Clinton campaign actually colluded with Russia to defeat Trump; "Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson declined to comment for this article. Soros's spokesman, Michael Vachon, told me that Soros hadn't funded Fusion GPS directly but had made a grant to the Democracy Integrity Project, which used Fusion GPS as a contractor. "

The Democracy Integrity Project - according to the Caller, was formed in 2017 by Jones.

The Post column confirms what a Washington, D.C., lawyer named Adam Waldman told The Daily Caller News Foundation about a conversation he had with Jones in March 2017.

Waldman was an attorney for Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska. He also worked in some capacity for Christopher Steele, according to text messages he exchanged with Virginia Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence panel.

In what the Post's Ignatius noted was an "incestuous" relationship, Steele, a former MI6 officer, has done work for the Kremlin-linked Deripaska in the past .

Waldman told TheDCNF that Jones approached him on March 15, 2017 through text message asking to meet.

"Dan Jones here from the Democracy Integrity Project. Chris wanted us to connect," he wrote, seemingly referring to Steele. At a meeting two days later, Waldman said that Jones told him that he was working with Steele and Fusion GPS and that their project was being funded by Soros and a group of Silicon Valley billionaires . - Daily Caller

effort was originally revealed in February and reported on by The Federalist , after a series of leaked text messages between Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) and lobbyist Adam Waldman suggested that Daniel J. Jones - an ex-FBI investigator and former Feinstein staffer, was " intimately involved with ongoing efforts to retroactively validate a series of salacious and unverified memos published by Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence agent, and Fusion GPS. "

In short, Jones is working with Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele to continue their investigation into Donald Trump, using a $50 million war chest just revealed by the House Intel Committee report.

Jones also runs the Penn Quarter Group - a "research and investigative advisory" firm whose website was registered in April of 2016, days before Steele delivered his first in a series of Trump-Russia memos to Fusion GPS . Jones also began tweeting out articles suggesting illicit ties between the Trump campaign and Russia as early as 2017.

Steele's work during the 2016 election culminated in the salacious and unverified 35-page "Steele dossier" used to obtain a FISA warrant against then-President Trump (which, as we reported on Friday, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper leaked the details to CNN 's Jake Tapper prior to the seemingly coordinated publication by BuzzFeed ).

An April House Intel Report notes that in March 2017, Jones told the FBI that he was working with Steele and Fusion GPS, with funding to the tune of $50 million.

"In late March 2017, Jones met with FBI regarding PQG, which he described as 'exposing foreign influence in Western election,'" reads the House Intel report. "[Redacted] told FBI that PQG was being funded by 7 to 10 wealthy donors located primarily in New York and California, who provided approximately $50 million ."

"[Redacted] further stated that PQG had secured the services of Steele, his associate [redacted], and Fusion GPS to continue exposing Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. Presidential election," reads the report, which adds that Jones " planned to share the information he obtained with policymakers and with the press ."

And the Daily Caller 's Chuck Ross noted at the time, Jones "also offered to provide PQG's entire holdings to the FBI" according to the report, citing a "FD-302" transcript of the interview he gave to the FBI.

Of note, during Congressional testimony last year when Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) asked Glenn Simpson, co-founder of Fusion GPS, if he was still being paid for work related to the dossier , Simpson refused to answer . And while the dossier came under fire for " salacious and unverified " claims, a January 8 New York Times profile of Glenn Simpson confirmed that dossier-related work continues.

Sean Davis of The Federalist reported in February that Jones' name was mentioned in a list of individuals from a January 25 Congressional letter from Senators Grassley and Graham to various Democratic party leaders who were likely involved in Fusion GPS's 2016 efforts. The letter sought all communications between the Democrats and a list of 40 individuals or entities, of which Jones is one.

Still no word on whether Jones and Fusion GPS - funded by Soros - have been able to find a connection between Trump and Russia, but we're sure they'll keep plugging away.

insanelysane , 8 minutes ago

More fake dossiers? After the Kav fiasco of fake accusations, who the **** is going to believe in anything else coming from Steele and Fusion and company?

Hyzer , 3 minutes ago

The New York Times for one.

Boscovius , 8 minutes ago

For good or bad, the Founders gave Treason a very strict definition. It probably won't apply to very many of these fucko's. But yes, Sedition is most certainly on the menu.

medium giraffe , 11 minutes ago

"You underestimate the power of the Dark Side. If you will not fight, then you will meet your destiny."

-Darth Soros

???ö? , 13 minutes ago

That's probably called SEDITION.

Grumbleduke , 14 minutes ago

are these assholes some kind of an exile government?

Where were they exactly exiled from, then? How about you yanks send some democracy bombs their way, for a change?

Look at them as sacrificial lambs: the world would cheer, give you props and support like after 9/11. Meanwhile new psychos with unimaginable wealth and cold-heartedness will quietly take over. Don't you worry, we'll all get fucked hard.

One way or another - this clown show won't last for long.

You think your/"our" children will ever forgive us?

[Sep 24, 2018] Did they wire Kenny Mr.Trump?

Sep 24, 2018 | www.moonofalabama.org

Greece , Sep 22, 2018 3:05:11 PM | link

Well, well, Mr.Trump talks the talk but never walks the walk it semms...

If only poor Kennedy would be so lucky...

Nobody to point fingers at for wiring the president...

Did they wire Kenny Mr.Trump?

You did a big show about putting out stuff that would reveal what happened with kennedy, but instead the people were fed the ussual BS plus some "new" irrelevant" stuff.

Was it just a show to push for more power for your favorite Mr.Netanyahou?

How did they eavesdrop Kenny Mr.Trump?

[Sep 24, 2018] Given Trumps kneeling to the British Skripal poisoning 'hate russia' hoax I suspect there is no chance he will go after Christopher Steele or any of the senior demoncrat conspirers no matter how much he would love to sucker punch Theresa May and her nasty colleagues.

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... If Trump backs the British looneys in the UN security council in a day or two we can all be sure he is now a puppet on a British string and that point will be seen by USA voters. ..."
"... Any leader that lets a foreign nation, Britain, try to destroy his family, presidential campaign and now presidency by assembling and publishing a dirt dossier without response is a coward. If Trump wont stand up to Hillary Clinton, Theresa May, or any of the dossier conspirators, then he is useless. The USA voters see that no matter what the spin but the swing voters more than any other actually discriminate and make judgements based on actions ..."
"... They are in a quandary and only Trump can cement their support by going after the perpetrators NOW and telling the EU loonies like Britain and France to F off with their belligerent war mongering. I wouldn't count on it. ..."
Sep 22, 2018 | www.moonofalabama.org

uncle tungsten , Sep 22, 2018 6:34:26 PM | 32

More notions on USA election so excuse a repeat post all. I figure an enormous number of voters reeled in horror at the prospect of a Hillary Clinton president and voted for Trump. Will that horror revert to more democrat support now?

Are those swing voters now uncertain if the $hillary will stage a come back. Nothing absolute has been stated and the demoncrats go through the motions of 'thinking about' another stooge like creepy Joe Biden. The USA is not liberated from the 'Clinton option' yet.

More to the point though is that repeatedly implied and sometimes stated 'certainty' that the DOJ/FBI under its new Trumpian management has a thousand grand jury indictments pending to be actioned in October or something. The Trumpers are certain that their hero is about to slay the many headed dragon and they have been anticipating that move for some time. Sure there appears to be sufficient evidence to draw and quarter a couple of seriously stupid clowns.

Given Trumps kneeling to the British Skripal poisoning 'hate russia' hoax I suspect there is no chance he will go after Christopher Steele or any of the senior demoncrat conspirers no matter how much he would love to sucker punch Theresa May and her nasty colleagues. If Trump backs the British looneys in the UN security council in a day or two we can all be sure he is now a puppet on a British string and that point will be seen by USA voters.

Any leader that lets a foreign nation, Britain, try to destroy his family, presidential campaign and now presidency by assembling and publishing a dirt dossier without response is a coward. If Trump wont stand up to Hillary Clinton, Theresa May, or any of the dossier conspirators, then he is useless. The USA voters see that no matter what the spin but the swing voters more than any other actually discriminate and make judgements based on actions .

They are in a quandary and only Trump can cement their support by going after the perpetrators NOW and telling the EU loonies like Britain and France to F off with their belligerent war mongering. I wouldn't count on it.

[Sep 23, 2018] Brennan FBI Has Obligation To Circumvent Trump, Took Constitutional Oath To United States by Ian Schwartz

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Brennan is dreaming about acceptance of Mueller witch hunt for all Americans: "It is critically important for all of the American citizens to learn the results of that investigation, and whether or not it implicates Mr. Trump and others, we have to be ready to accept those findings as apolitical, and not something that is being done for political purposes," he said.
Notable quotes:
"... Actually, Brennan...there is nothing unconstitutional about what Trump is doing. Nothing at all, not one thing. Your call for circumvention is however seditious and you should be prosecuted for your actions. But beyond that, your fear and your blathering makes me smile from ear to ear because it means you are scared that the truth about you and your ilk WILL come one. "Sunlight is the best disinfectant". It is precious watching you squirm! ..."
"... Arguing the Constitution with Brennan is like arguing the Bible with an Atheist. ..."
"... So, why should WE THE PEOPLE not be able to see what Brennan and his ilk have either been leaking selectively at us or hiding to subvert a lawful election. ..."
Sep 19, 2018 | www.realclearpolitics.com

Former CIA director and MSNBC contributor John Brennan called on FBI director Christopher Wray, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to "push back" on any directive from the White House that may have a "negative impact" on the Mueller investigation.

Brennan called on "individuals of conscience" in the administration to remember that they took an oath of office not an oath to Donald Trump. Moments prior Brennan admonished people who are abusing their powers to "protect" Trump.

"I think that they should continue to push, push, push, and if Mr. Tump and the White House does not relent, then they have some decisions to make, and whether or not they are going to the just not follow that direction and be fired or to resign," Brennan said of the trio.

"A number of individuals are trying to protect Mr. Trump and abusing their authorities and their powers, whether it be in Congress or within the executive branch," Brennan said on MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell Reports . "And this is something that I am hoping that individuals of conscience are going to stop and prevent because I am concerned that this is just one indication that Mr. Trump is going to increasingly look for steps to take in order to further to try to subvert the Mueller investigation."

"I think that they should continue to push, push, push, and if Mr. Tump and the White House does not relent, then they have some decisions to make, and whether or not they are going to the just not follow that direction and be fired or to resign, but if they really believe this is going to have serious impact, the national security law enforcement, and judicial process, they have an obligation since they took the oath of office to the constitution of the United States and not Mr. Trump to uphold their responsibilities and their agency and the departments' authorities," Brennan said.

Brennan called it critically important that Americans accept the results of the Mueller probe.

"It is critically important for all of the American citizens to learn the results of that investigation, and whether or not it implicates Mr. Trump and others, we have to be ready to accept those findings as apolitical, and not something that is being done for political purposes," he said.

JackDan

Actually, Brennan...there is nothing unconstitutional about what Trump is doing. Nothing at all, not one thing. Your call for circumvention is however seditious and you should be prosecuted for your actions. But beyond that, your fear and your blathering makes me smile from ear to ear because it means you are scared that the truth about you and your ilk WILL come one. "Sunlight is the best disinfectant". It is precious watching you squirm!

KCMarkLeader -> JackDan

Arguing the Constitution with Brennan is like arguing the Bible with an Atheist.

hansenwtLeader -> KCMark

Except Brennan will be in charge of something again in the next Democrat Presidency....if you vote Democrat....Anyone that remotely acts like Brennan, (not a partisan argument)...should never ever be allowed near the levers of control of this country....the 2016 election has proven this.

Edgarson

So, why should WE THE PEOPLE not be able to see what Brennan and his ilk have either been leaking selectively at us or hiding to subvert a lawful election.

We're talking about FISA warrants of a Presidential campaign's staff.

Why should we not see this? Why should the truth not all come out?

What possible reason can Brennan have to keep THIS out of public knowledge?

JackDanLeader -> Edgarson

The only logical reason is because Brennan does not want to go to jail. Well too bad Brennan!

SUTOPEL

In other words, this man is telling the FBI NOT to release anything that belongs to We The People.

JackDanLeader -> SUTOPEL

In other words he is openly advocating for government officials to disobey a presidential order, which is either sedition or treason. I'll let Brennan pick which one.

[Sep 23, 2018] Intelligence agencies combined aspects of street gangs and political parties, taking positions on current issues, notably claimants to the throne

The tragedy is that Georgetown Prep and Yale alumni like Pompeo have no fear of lampposts or Hiroshima. Unless the elite work to get consent of the governed back again, the future will be one or the other.
Sep 23, 2018 | turcopolier.typepad.com

The armed forces are watching the present chaos in the US between the revolutionary "Progressives" and the counter-revolutionary "Deplorables." Our versions of Belisarius, Narses and Mundus are calculating the odds of an eventual calming of the discord. They cannot think that the odds are very good.

Political war could easily lead to the real thing. pl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nika_riots

[Sep 23, 2018] Arguing the Constitution with Brennan is like arguing the Bible with an Atheist

Sep 23, 2018 | www.realclearpolitics.com

KCMarkLeader -> JackDan

Arguing the Constitution with Brennan is like arguing the Bible with an Atheist.

hansenwtLeader -> KCMark

Except Brennan will be in charge of something again in the next Democrat Presidency....if you vote Democrat....Anyone that remotely acts like Brennan, (not a partisan argument)...should never ever be allowed near the levers of control of this country....the 2016 election has proven this.

[Sep 22, 2018] New York Times' fraudulent "election plot" dossier escalates anti-Russia hysteria

Notable quotes:
"... It acknowledges that "police never identified who had hung the banners," but nonetheless goes on to assert that: "The Kremlin, it appeared, had reached onto United States soil in New York and Washington. The banners may well have been intended as visual victory laps for the most effective foreign interference in an American election in history." ..."
"... The authors, Scott Shane and Mark Mazzetti, complain about a lack of "public comprehension" of the "Trump-Russia" story. Indeed, despite the two-year campaign of anti-Russian hysteria whipped up in Washington and among the affluent sections of the upper-middle class that constitute the target audience of the Times ..."
Sep 21, 2018 | www.wsws.org

The New York Times published a fraudulent and provocative "special report" Thursday titled "The plot to subvert an election."

Replete with sinister looking graphics portraying Russian President Vladimir Putin as a villainous cyberage cyclops, the report purports to untangle "the threads of the most effective foreign campaign in history to disrupt and influence an American election."

The report could serve as a textbook example of CIA-directed misinformation posing as "in-depth" journalism. There is no news, few substantiated facts and no significant analysis presented in the 10,000-word report, which sprawls over 11 ad-free pages of a separate section produced by the Times.

The article begins with an ominous-sounding recounting of two incidents in which banners were hung from bridges in New York City and Washington in October and November of 2016, one bearing the likeness of Putin over a Russian flag with the word "peacemaker," and the other that of Obama and the slogan "Goodbye Murderer."

It acknowledges that "police never identified who had hung the banners," but nonetheless goes on to assert that: "The Kremlin, it appeared, had reached onto United States soil in New York and Washington. The banners may well have been intended as visual victory laps for the most effective foreign interference in an American election in history." The article begins with an ominous-sounding recounting of two incidents in which banners were hung from bridges in New York City and Washington in October and November of 2016, one bearing the likeness of Putin over a Russian flag with the word "peacemaker," and the other that of Obama and the slogan "Goodbye Murderer."

It acknowledges that "police never identified who had hung the banners," but nonetheless goes on to assert that: "The Kremlin, it appeared, had reached onto United States soil in New York and Washington. The banners may well have been intended as visual victory laps for the most effective foreign interference in an American election in history."

Why does it "appear" to be the Kremlin? What is the evidence to support this claim? Among the 8.5 million inhabitants of New York City and another 700,000 in Washington, D.C., aren't there enough people who might despise Obama as much as, if not a good deal more than, Vladimir Putin?

This absurd passage with its "appeared" and "may well have" combined with the speculation about the Kremlin extending its evil grip onto "United States soil" sets the tone for the entire piece, which consists of the regurgitation of unsubstantiated allegations made by the US intelligence agencies, Democratic and Republican capitalist politicians and the Times itself.

The authors, Scott Shane and Mark Mazzetti, complain about a lack of "public comprehension" of the "Trump-Russia" story. Indeed, despite the two-year campaign of anti-Russian hysteria whipped up in Washington and among the affluent sections of the upper-middle class that constitute the target audience of the Times , polls have indicated that the charges of Russian "meddling" in the 2016 presidential election have evoked little popular response among the

[Sep 22, 2018] New York Times Tries Treason Again

Notable quotes:
"... shortly after FBI Director James Comey was fired by Trump, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein discussed using the 25th Amendment to remove the President from office, and himself wearing a wire to record the President at the White House. Rosenstein is supervising the Mueller Special Counsel investigation of the President. Rosenstein has heatedly denied the Times story. ..."
"... Also this week, Mueller's first victim, former Trump Campaign volunteer George Papadopoulos began press appearances detailing how he was set up by the British and the CIA in the evidence fabrication phase of the Russiagate investigation, during the Spring of 2016. ..."
Sep 22, 2018 | larouchepac.com

Friday afternoon, the New York Times once again took up the coup against Donald Trump, not as a news matter, but as a witting psychological warfare instrument for those bent on trying to illegally remove this President from office. They report, with great fervor, that shortly after FBI Director James Comey was fired by Trump, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein discussed using the 25th Amendment to remove the President from office, and himself wearing a wire to record the President at the White House. Rosenstein is supervising the Mueller Special Counsel investigation of the President. Rosenstein has heatedly denied the Times story.

This leak occurs in a context where the coup itself is unraveling. The President ordered the declassification of foundational documents in the coup itself on Monday, September 17, including tweets from Robert Mueller's central witness, Jim Comey. According to press accounts, "our allies" called to complain, most certainly the British and the Australians who instigated this coup together with Barack Obama and John Brennan. In addition, the so-called gang of eight Senators and Congressmen who get briefed by the intelligence community had their knickers in a full knot. On Friday, shortly before the Times story broke, the President delayed release of the documents, placing their release in the hands of Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, while insisting that the documents be reviewed and released in an expedited fashion. He also reserved the right to move forward himself if the matter was not handled with expedition. This was a sound move by Trump and the documents will be released.

Also this week, Mueller's first victim, former Trump Campaign volunteer George Papadopoulos began press appearances detailing how he was set up by the British and the CIA in the evidence fabrication phase of the Russiagate investigation, during the Spring of 2016. There is a sitting grand jury in Washington D.C. hearing evidence concerning fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. According to various sources, that grand jury is also hearing evidence about criminal abuses of the FISA court process and media leaks.

The press reporting to date on the story points to Andrew McCabe or Robert Mueller as the source of the leak to the New York Times .

McCabe's memos are reportedly the source of the story and he has provided those to Mueller.

There is no doubt that Rosenstein has been a corrupt force throughout the ongoing coup against the President.

The question, which allies of the President should be asking, however, is why is this occurring now? In this strategic context? From the grey lady ragsheet that is the chief propaganda arm of the coup?

The President should demand that the Inspector General Horowitz immediately obtain and review the McCabe memos and interview everyone involved in the referenced in the Times and any follow-on meetings under oath, as well as investigating the source of the leak to the New York Times , providing him an immediate report for his consideration by early next week.

[Sep 17, 2018] I hold to the theory that the Generals backed Trump and the CIA backed Hillary.

Notable quotes:
"... I hold to the theory that the Generals backed Trump and the CIA backed Hillary. ..."
Sep 17, 2018 | www.moonofalabama.org

dltravers , Sep 16, 2018 11:46:17 PM | link

anoncommentator@50

Graham seems slightly more well behaved since McCain left the Senate. The stare down of Graham was excellent.

I hold to the theory that the Generals backed Trump and the CIA backed Hillary. Adding to that theory I submit that it was the reason why the former regime targeted Flynn first. As head of the DIA he may have had a big role in neutralizing some of the other intelligence agencies in their election meddling. He was the most dangerous person to the former regime.

I do not hold the the mass indictments theory. With that many Grand Juries going someone would see something unless they are being held on military bases with military people on the juries. The whole system would melt down if that happened. The MSN would be all over this spinning the military dictator line, especially with the upcoming election.

If the Republicans lose Congress the Trump Russia investigations will continue for another two years along with the tiring blather from the MSM.

[Sep 15, 2018] Where is the Special Counsel looking into FBI/DOJ misconduct with regard to falsely exonerating Hillary while fabricating probable cause to spy on Trump?

Notable quotes:
"... Mueller is getting bad press for not going after Hillary and the democrats. If his findings are all against Trump it will be portrayed as a partisan hack job given all the dems on his team. ..."
Sep 15, 2018 | www.zerohedge.com

I Am Jack's Macroaggression ,

Wait - where is the Special Counsel looking into FBI/DOJ misconduct with regard to falsely exonerating Hillary ehile fabricating probable cause to spy on Trump??

Seriously, Mueller has been on a fishing expedition for 2 fucking years premised entirely on what seems to be FBI/DOJ manufactured evidence and lies to the FISA court... steele memo, the meetings with 'Russians' that were obvious set ups... Sally Yates making what should be a CRIMINAL abuse of office call in justifying spying on Flynn because as part of an incoming admin he was (gasp!) talking to Russian diplomats like incoming admins HAVE TO AND ALWAYS do...

There are more than enough reasons for a special counsel to look into all that because the Very fucking point Is the FBI and DOJ have been corrupted by political bias, despite the 'nothing to see here' bullshit of the IG Report.

All this while Hillary and Brennan and Comey and Clapper with his phony bullshit DNI report all walk around free.. and I'll believe McCabe and Rosenstein are going to be indicted when they are indicted.

Rosenstein tried to hide very relevant texts from Congress and lied about why.

Trump is getting shit advice. He should fire Sessions and Rosenstein right away, let the media go nuts, and find a couple black or latino guys or women to replace them in 'acting' status. See - they just need to be honest and teasonably good.

I Claudius, 4 hours ago

Completely disagree w/Dershowitz. Mueller is getting bad press for not going after Hillary and the democrats. If his findings are all against Trump it will be portrayed as a partisan hack job given all the dems on his team.

My thoughts? Tony Podesta and that Skadden Arps attorney have been selected by the party leaders as the fall guys for the dems. They are throwing them overboard so the Mueller BS probe can be portrayed as non-partisan. They can claim that Manafort was not just a "get Trump's associates" hit job by now stating that Manafort got them these two clowns.

Manafort has zero on Trump and Mueller now has a huge dem jizz load on his face for getting nowhere. He now has to preserve his reputation and going after these two f'wads for some minor issue (don't forget, the Repubs backed themselves into a corner claiming this Foreign lobbyist thing is a minor infraction). So now they get these two guys on a BS charge . . .

And they walk and Mueller saves face.

caconhma, 3 hours ago

It is all BS. The Trump affairs are just diversions from his primary assignments:

  1. Utterly promote and advance interests of Zionist Mafia and Israel
  2. Destabilize the US internal situation and use it as a pretext for transforming the USA into a totalitarian police state
  3. Protect and defend US$ as the only one viable reserve currency
  4. Prevent by any means China from becoming a geopolitical superpower challenging the USA

IMHO, Trump's masters are doing their job very incompetent and their evil game will terribly backfire against them.

[Sep 15, 2018] Brennan traveling to Ukraine to meet with the coup leaders using a diplomatic passport and a false identity

Notable quotes:
"... I'll add one. Brennan traveling to Ukraine to meet with the coup leaders, traveling under a diplomatic passport and a false identity (assumed name). This put him right in the middle of the Ukraine crises, along with Biden and V Nuland, and the mess they created just to get NATO on Russia's borders. ..."
Sep 15, 2018 | consortiumnews.com

Curious , August 17, 2018 at 2:30 am

I'll add one. Brennan traveling to Ukraine to meet with the coup leaders, traveling under a diplomatic passport and a false identity (assumed name).

This put him right in the middle of the Ukraine crises, along with Biden and V Nuland, and the mess they created just to get NATO on Russia's borders.

This is as big, if not bigger than his lying to Congress, so I'll throw in the reminder.

[Sep 12, 2018] Leaking Like Mad FBI-DOJ-MSM Collusion Went Far Deeper Than Previously Known

Sep 12, 2018 | www.zerohedge.com

"Leaking Like Mad": FBI-DOJ-MSM Collusion Went Far Deeper Than Previously Known

by Tyler Durden Wed, 09/12/2018 - 15:30 637 SHARES

The FBI's coordination with the mainstream media surrounding the 2016 US election - a "media leak strategy" which was first first revealed Tuesday , goes far deeper than first reported, according to Fox News , which obtained "new communications between the former lovers."

A December 15, 2016 email appears to discuss a "political" leaking operation, in which others were " leaking like mad " amid the Trump-Russia probe.

"Oh, remind me to tell you tomorrow about the times doing a story about the rnc hacks," Page texted Strzok.

"And more than they already did? I told you Quinn told me they pulling out all the stops on some story " Strzok replied.

A source told Fox News "Quinn" could be referring to Richard Quinn, who served as the chief of the Media and Investigative Publicity Section in the Office of Public Affairs. Quinn could not be reached for comment.

Strzok again replied: " Think our sisters have begun leaking like mad. Scorned and worried, and political, they're kicking into overdrive. "

In one passage, Strzok apparently misreads a reference to "rnc" as "mc," and then, realizing his error, blames "old man eyes."

It is unclear at this point to whom Strzok was referring when he used the term "sisters." - Fox News

"Sisters" may refer to sister agency.

"Sisters is an odd phrase to use," retired FBI special agent and former FBI national spokesman John Iannarelli told Fox News Wednesday. " It could be any intelligence agency or any other federal law enforcement agency. The FBI works with all of them because, post 9/11, it's all about cooperation and sharing. "

The US intelligence community is comprised of 17 agencies, including the CIA, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the FBI and the National Security Agency.

Fox News notes that the "leaking like mad" reference was texted the same day that several US news outlets reported that Russian President Vladimir Putin was personally involved - and personally approved, Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

Several days before that, an article titled " Russian Hackers Acted to Aid Trump in Election, U.S. Says, " was published in the New York Times , which cited "senior administration officials."

Then, on January 10, 2017, The Times published another article which suggested that Russian hackers had "gained limited access" to the Republican National Committee (RNC) - the same day that BuzzFeed News published the "Steele Dossier" accusing President Trump of a variety of salacious and unproven ties to Russia.

Following the text about "sisters leaking," Strzok wrote to Page:

" And we need to talk more about putting C reporting in our submission. They're going to declassify all of it "

Page replied: "I know. But they're going to declassify their stuff, how do we withhold "

" We will get extraordinary questions. What we did what we're doing. Just want to ensure everyone is good with it and has thought thru all implications," Strzok wrote. "CD should bring it up with the DD."

A source told Fox News that "C" is likely in reference to classified information, whereas "CD" is Cyber Division, and DD could refer to former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.

McCabe was fired by Attorney General Jeff Sessions in March for making an unauthorized disclosure to the news media, and "lacked candor" under oath on multiple occassions.

It is unclear what "submission" Strzok and Page were referring to. - Fox News

A source also told Fox News that the messages were part of the newly released batch of Strzok-Page communications obtained by DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who uncovered them as part of his investigation into the FBI's conduct in the Russia investigation.


LaugherNYC ,

Dead silence in the media about the entire FBI DOJ scandal for months. Only the occasional piece on conservative blogs. EIther Huber has Grand Jury true bills coming October 1 to slam on the Dems just before the midterms, or this coverup of Deep State malfeasance will go on until the Dems get the House and impeach Trump. The plan seems to let them all get away with their betrayal of the country.

McCabe should already be in prison, yet it seems like there has yet even been a decision to indict him... he might be in front of a gran d jury, or he might just be chillin waiting for his grievance with the union to be heard and be awarded back pay and pension vesting, a if what he did is equivalent to a guy driving his forklift into a wall at Costco after a beer.,

MrBoompi ,

Now "It's all about cooperation and sharing." What a crock of shit. They still want us to believe the government agencies didn't communicate with each other, or work together, before 911. That's high level propaganda that's still being used to cover up what happened on 911 and justify the anti-constitutional Patriot Act.

Stan522 ,

"The FBI's coordination with the mainstream media surrounding the 2016 US election - a "media leak strategy" which was first first revealed Tuesday , goes far deeper than first reported, according to Fox News , which obtained "new communications between the former lovers." "

Questions arise....

The media obviously knows who is leaking and they also know who's been in the news relating to this investigation, yet, they still refuse to connect the dots and write about the uncontrollable sieve of leaks

The media also refuses to put any focus on the drip by drip bits of information about how there was bias. The devilcRAT talking heads are in contortions trying to excuse all of this and the MSM are allowing it.

The Inspector General apparently conducted an investigation on all of this shit's and concluded there was no bias, yet every day there seems to be more evidence that there was extreme bias. What more needs to be shown to get the media talking about it?

Last weeks breaking news had shown that Andrew Weisman (yes, the same clown that now works for Mueller's hit squad) as colluding with Bruck Ohr and Christopher Steele during the creation of that fake news Dossier and Weisman was feeding information to Mueller. When will Mueller drop this scam investigation?

There are still republicans that hold the opinion that Mueller must be allowed to finish his investigation. With the fact that Weisman was part of the hit squad creating dirt about Trump, at what point are these idiot politicians are going to grow a pair and start talking about all of this? It seems they are the same lazy thinkers that go along with the man caused global warming hoax.

Yesterday's breaking news was about what DeGenova stated about the meeting in obama's office with Rice, Yates, Biden, Comey, and Obama. He says "It was a meeting to discuss how Sally Yates was going to get Michael Flynn. And the President of the United States, Barack Obama, was directly involved in these discussions." Yet NOTHING was shown on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC and the rest about this.

asscannon101 ,

That first pic in the article- the one of Strzok- that is a 'peyote face'. The crazy eyes and the grotesque, exaggerated facial grimacing. Mescaline will do that to you. I've read a lot of books about that shit. Just lucky that he didn't spaz out, shit in his pants, flop around on the floor squawking like a seagull and start chewing his own lips off. I've read a lot of books about that shit. A lot of books. Over and over again. A lot of fucking books.

troutback ,

Get a Fucking Rope and an Oak Tree. That's how I feel. It's fucking Treason!

Sheesh

tb

bobdog54 ,

The swamp aka the deep state is not only not a conspiracy theory but a real seditionous conspiracy against our Constitutional Laws and Way of Life. And much much deeper than most can imagine.

Automatic Choke ,

why are they not incarcerated?

this shit is an affront to all of us who follow the laws, respect election results, pay taxes, and try to be good citizens.

PUT THEM AWAY!!!!!

navy62802 ,

So we already know that these people committed sedition against the government based on the known evidence. One more tape doesn't prove the crime any more than the other evidence. All this does is drive home the fact that there were additional conspirators who protected these criminals from justice. It's fucking sickening.

Call me when someone in the government gets the balls to finally charge these criminals with the crimes they have obviously committed. Until then, new evidence is moot.

bobdog54 ,

Wish I could give you 100 up arrows!

All Risk No Reward ,

"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing."
― Malcolm X

The above is true, but only tangentially related to this topic in that it expresses the media LIES.

The TRUTH is that the BankstObama FBI worked overtime to get BankstoTrump "elected" as one of the Bankster financed "selections." Banksters "select" based on money and promotion, then you "vote" on their selection in an "election."

Let freeDUMB rain!

Here's how it worked...

1. Mid 2016, FBI became aware of Hellary's criminal activity.

2. Mid 2016, Comey sent memo stating Hellary would not be prosecuted. He did not say this is because she's a Money Power Sith Lord front woman who has a KMA card. Nick Rockefeller explained this to Aaron Russo, as told by Aaron himself when he was interviewed by Alex Jones. Oh, and Rockefeller told him the details of the post 9/11 Afghanistan invasion in advance, too. The interview is worth watching.

3. October, 2016, Comey announced an investigation into Hellary's criminal behavior. Uh, it was already determined she wouldn't be prosecuted, right? Yup. So why publicly imply she could be charged and convicted IF NOT TO AID AND ABET DONALD "HE'S WORTH MORE TO US (BANKSTERS) ALIVE THAN DEAD" TRUMP INTO THE WHITE HOUSE?

By the way, that's an accurate and real quote from an attorney that represents something like 50+ banks against Trump. He said it to describe why the Banksters didn't force Donald into bankruptcy and take all his stuff. Donald OWES the Banksters FOR EVERYTHING HE HAS TODAY THAT IS NOT POVERTY!

This is called an October Surprise, and they are rarely good.

4. After the elections, Comey announces that Hellary committed the crimes, was caught red handed, but wouldn't be prosecuted because she didn't intend to commit the crime. Try that at your next court date for running a stop sign you didn't see, serfer boys and girls.

5. Propaganda depicting Comey and Trump as enemies ensued immediately, lest the mindless rabble formulate the most obvious question in their wittle minds...

"Why did the Obama FBI create a phony October Surprise to hurt Hellary and promote Trump's election as President?"

That's not in the Money Power Matrix programming!

The reason is that the Banksters wanted Trump in office, because their debt-based money system bubble (largest in human history) is set to implode AND THERE IS NO PERSON ON PLANET EARTH THAT IS MORE CAPABLE OF MAGNETICALLY TAKING ALL THE BLAME ONTO HIMSELF THAN DONALD J. TRUMP.

Nobody.

The name of the game is to shield the Banksters and their debt-money system from criticism as the fraudulent ROOT CAUSE of the debt-money bubble bust cycles that asset strips entire societies and leads to systematic global oppression of all ordinary people. At least for those not directly or indirectly murdered by the Bankster anti-ordinary human agendas.

And, being promoted as an outsider, the Banksters get to save their two controlled privately incorporated "politically parties in the minds of Muppets" from taking full blame, therefore, all the Muppets will continue to think they have freedom because they get to "vote" for Bankster quisling #1 or Bankster quisling #2.

Let freeDUMB rain!

PS - The Banksters don't even care that I spill the beans on their plans because they know the masses, even the ZeroHedge masses, simply lack the imagination to envision the reality they Banksters have financed into existence.

alfbell ,

Wake me up once the handing out of prison sentences starts. If they never do, I don't want to wake up.

WarAndPeace ,

Only a politician would not recognize that they are criminals.... ah apply that whichever way you want.

LaugherNYC ,

Dead silence in the media about the entire FBI DOJ scandal for months. Only the occasional piece on conservative blogs. EIther Huber has Grand Jury true bills coming October 1 to slam on the Dems just before the midterms, or this coverup of Deep State malfeasance will go on until the Dems get the House and impeach Trump. The plan seems to let them all get away with their betrayal of the country.

McCabe should already be in prison, yet it seems like there has yet even been a decision to indict him... he might be in front of a gran d jury, or he might just be chillin waiting for his grievance with the union to be heard and be awarded back pay and pension vesting, a if what he did is equivalent to a guy driving his forklift into a wall at Costco after a beer.,

MrBoompi ,

Now "It's all about cooperation and sharing." What a crock of shit. They still want us to believe the government agencies didn't communicate with each other, or work together, before 911. That's high level propaganda that's still being used to cover up what happened on 911 and justify the anti-constitutional Patriot Act.

Captain Nemo de Erehwon ,

Moral of the story: Cherish incompetence. It is what prevents people from doing real damage. It is the sole hope for the world.

It was not hard-nosed intelligence and legal professionals running a secretive op to overturn the election. If it were there would not be this trail of text messages describing each step in detail. The amateurish execution, given all the assets at their disposal including Australian Ambassadors, mysterious European Professors, and other premiere intelligence agencies, even perhaps other US government agencies is like spoilt rich kids ruining their parents' ...hmm is that offensive nowadays? ...legal guardians' ...!@$# it ... father's company.

All Risk No Reward ,

>>Moral of the story: Cherish incompetence. <<

You don't comprehend the milieu.

The agendas include, but are not limited to:

1. Produce more debt - private, corporate, and governmental. Incompetence? On what planet? They are AMAZING!

2. Prevent the plebs from realizing #1. Again, they have you duped - and you aren't alone.

3. Pretend inferiority, so that concerted malevolent intent is not discerned. Art of War 101.

The are doing a stellar job at their true agendas.

Dare I say, so good that I can't exclude supernatural guidance.

Muddy1 ,

Why show the attractive pictures of Lisa Page? I liked the ones where she looked like the dimwit she is.

Pons Asinorum ,

She's more attractive with her mouth shut.

Yog Soggoth ,

"Sisters" may refer to sister agency.

"Sisters is an odd phrase to use," retired FBI special agent and former FBI national spokesman John Iannarelli told Fox News Wednesday. " It could be any intelligence agency or any other federal law enforcement agency. The FBI works with all of them because, post 9/11, it's all about cooperation and sharing. " Witches perhaps? Cotton Mather was right!

fulliautomatix ,

There's another William - "it's all about cooperation and sharing." Oh, and telling the truth.

Remington Steel ,

Treasonous fucks. They should all hang in D.C.'s National Mall.

SnatchnGrab ,

Hang them in the public square so that we may spit on them.

I am Groot ,

They should be staked down to the ground out in the desert, covered in honey and have ants poured all over them.

SaulAzzHoleSky ,

Strzok's lawyer will say that this refers to problems with his Depends, not the media.....

WTFUD ,

Down down deeper and down - that's pretty deep.

There's very little deep about the F-uk-us Political Establishment; empty suits, treasonous filth, cowardly, and yet, wholeheartedly believe they are principled. S.H.O.C.K.I.N.G

motoXdude ,

Just like enlightened, educated Liberals... those working in these agencies (and most likely the agencies themselves) are above the law and here to govern the great unwashed and deplorables! This IS THE DEEP STATE aka THE SWAMP! Time to drain it or drop a high tension power line in it!

Anunnaki ,

Leaking must not be a crime for Keebler Sessions

Mzhen ,

Wasn't it fortunate that Seth Rich was involved in transporting DNC data to WikiLeaks? Without the "hacking" link in the chain, the rest of the plan could not have been set into motion. Characterized as an ardent Bernie supporter, Seth Rich was actually scheduled to go to work at Hillary's campaign headquarters a few weeks after the date of his murder.

WTFUD ,

The Classic Clinton Foundation ENTRAPMENT.

The job offer being a ruse just in case they didn't get him 1st Time.

SirBarksAlot ,

According to this news clip, there are secret military tribunals going on and John McCain was executed for his treason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvryq1UnucI

WTFUD ,

His 3 remaining brain-cells were targeted with magnetic pulses like the one's going down at the US Embassy in CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBA.

HominyTwin ,

That's right! Powerful people are taking care of everything, and making sure all will be right with the USA once again, in the very near future, without effort or sacrifice or thinking on our part. That is wonderful news!!!!

south40_dreams ,

Build the gallows.

missionshk ,

my understanding is that there were 14 people from various agencies, in a chat room all committing treason, but dont here about that any more

ardent ,

While some are "Leaking Like Mad",

others are "Killing Like Mad".

WARNING: Graphic Images

alter_ ,

This is a coup, plain and simple, and the coup is winning.

Prosource ,

Not sure the coup is winning, but it's been almost 2 years and we are only this far in investigations and prosecutions ???

fulliautomatix ,

Trying to keep some of the legal community alive.

Dickweed Wang ,

Does Lisa Page have tits or are those mutant mosquito bites?

NewHugh ,

In my limited experience flat girls figure out a way to "compensate"...

I am Groot ,

Have you seen her smile ? She's all gums. I'll bet Stzrok loves when the vet takes her teeth out to clean them and she blows him.

GUMMY ! GUMMY ! GUMMY !

SirBarksAlot ,

It hasn't been determined if she has tits or not.

However, she certainly has balls.

cosmyccowboy ,

she needs the crocodille dundee test... the dept of injustice is trannies on parade!

Collectivism Killz ,

Just in case Qanon is wrong about Keebler Elf Sessions, can someone at least gently remind him that failure to prosecute will give creeps like Joe Biden a second shot at his Granddaughters? Not sure if he cares, but I would think an old hound dog such as Sessions would at least consider his final legacy on earth. All that Fried Chicken and chitlins have to catch up with him at some point.

Yog Soggoth ,

Everyone up on the Hill feels the fire burning below their feet, those who succumb will embrace the everlasting heat. Where is Billy? Can you clean this up for me?

Stan522 ,

"The FBI's coordination with the mainstream media surrounding the 2016 US election - a "media leak strategy" which was first first revealed Tuesday , goes far deeper than first reported, according to Fox News , which obtained "new communications between the former lovers." "

Questions arise....

The media obviously knows who is leaking and they also know who's been in the news relating to this investigation, yet, they still refuse to connect the dots and write about the uncontrollable sieve of leaks

The media also refuses to put any focus on the drip by drip bits of information about how there was bias. The devilcRAT talking heads are in contortions trying to excuse all of this and the MSM are allowing it.

The Inspector General apparently conducted an investigation on all of this shit's and concluded there was no bias, yet every day there seems to be more evidence that there was extreme bias. What more needs to be shown to get the media talking about it?

Last weeks breaking news had shown that Andrew Weisman (yes, the same clown that now works for Mueller's hit squad) as colluding with Bruck Ohr and Christopher Steele during the creation of that fake news Dossier and Weisman was feeding information to Mueller. When will Mueller drop this scam investigation?

There are still republicans that hold the opinion that Mueller must be allowed to finish his investigation. With the fact that Weisman was part of the hit squad creating dirt about Trump, at what point are these idiot politicians are going to grow a pair and start talking about all of this? It seems they are the same lazy thinkers that go along with the man caused global warming hoax.

Yesterday's breaking news was about what DeGenova stated about the meeting in obama's office with Rice, Yates, Biden, Comey, and Obama. He says "It was a meeting to discuss how Sally Yates was going to get Michael Flynn. And the President of the United States, Barack Obama, was directly involved in these discussions." Yet NOTHING was shown on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC and the rest about this.

lookslikecraptome ,

Just put up the link to fox news that ran this story. Talk about a cut and paste.

ZazzOne ,

BOOM!!! BOOM!!! BOOM!!!

SirBarksAlot ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8oF7QGPF4E

Boom, boom, boom, let's go back to my room and we can do it all night and you can make me feel right.

SHADEWELL ,

Here is the communist party website...see if the message differs significantly from the Democrat agenda

http://www.cpusa.org/article/a-communist-approach-to-election-work-in-2018/

"As Communists, we work in the elections not just for a candidate but strategically to build and strengthen the movement and our Party for the long term. The situation varies greatly from one state and election district to the next so tactics have to be developed locally. The more we share our concrete experiences, the more we can learn and get ideas from each other. Here are thoughts for consideration:

1. Where to concentrate?

Clubs: the neighborhood or election district where the club is located;

Districts: election districts that can be flipped; election districts where working-class champions who are incumbents are under attack; election districts with a progressive primary candidate.

2. What goals?

• build a voter base to change the political balance of forces;
• strengthen relationships with unions, left/progressive electoral forms like Our Revolution (OR) and Working Famlies Party (WFP), etc;
• raise the level of class consciousness, unity and solidarity;
• enlarge the CPUSA diverse working-class membership and readership of People's World;
• identify among our members potential candidates for local office.

3. What methods?

Voter registration: laws differ from state to state. Where there is postcard registration, door-to-door work with voter cards and issue petitions and sign-ups are a great way to identify people who want to become engaged and who we can follow up with to vote and get involved. Tabling with voter cards, issue petitions, People's World and literature is another way, but harder to follow up with people in scattered geography. Increasing voter turnout in working-class communities can win elections and create the base for organizing to win a people's program. It is a direct challenge to the corporate right-wing that depends on depressing and suppressing the vote.

Participate with allies: Unions, progressive community groups and left/progressive electoral forms are the best way to participate in campaigns and build the movement for the long term. Organizations vary from place to place. Labor 2018 is the AFL-CIO program and anyone can take part in phone banks and visits to the homes of union members. Each union also has its own election program that union members should prioritize. Local issue coalitions or ballot initiatives are also important venues, for example Jobs with Justice, Planned Parenthood, Fight for 15, the Poor People's Campaign, Millions of Jobs etc. Left and progressive electoral organizations that have endorsed candidates with strong programs are a strategic way to participate such as Our Revolution, Working Families Party, Indivisible, etc. If you are just getting started this is a great way to reach out.

Chupacabra-322 ,

They really thought Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopath Hillary Clinton would win.

And, with it. Complete destruction of Conservatism, Libertarian Values, & Ideology.

Her Crimes would have never been uncovered or bought out into the open as we're witnessing.

Much was at stake. Everything was lost.

The Presidency LOST.

Weaponized Intelligence Community with Agents, Assets & Operatives. LOST.

Complicit, Criminal Loyal CIA, FBI, DOJ. LOST.

Supreme Court. LOST.

No doubt, the censorship & Gas Lighting would have been turned on fully.

And, with it Tyrannical Lawlessness.

mc888 ,

How about the "Free Press"? Exposed as nothing but a corrupt propganda outlet for the DS.

"Free Independent Journalism" LOST.

All these MSM propaganda outlets need their FCC licenses revoked for broadcasting false information and hoaxes.

https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/broadcasting-false-information

18 U.S. Code § 1038 - False information and hoaxes

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1038

Add RICO charges and prosecute every exec, editor, and agent undercover as a media whore hiding behind the First Amendment to commit their crimes.

Yog Soggoth ,

Orson Welles - War Of The Worlds - Radio Broadcast 1938 ...

Orson Welles - War Of The Worlds - Radio Broadcast 1938 - Complete Broadcast. The War of theWorlds was an episode of the American radio drama anthology seri...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs0K4ApWl4g Nothing new. He even used the weather!

r0mulus ,

Operation Mockingbird lives on, just as we, the "conspiracy theorists" said.

And look who was wrong about reality in the end:
The ones pretending nothing was/is wrong, and that we were/are crazy.

Well who's crazy now motherfuckers?
Looks like it's you lot over there, desperately clinging to your MSM/DNC/GOP idols, asking for FB/Twitter/Google to ban everything too inconvenient for your "reality".

Face the truth for once: the collusion is and has always been between the MSM/DNC/GOP/Alphabet Agencies and the DEEP STATE. And you perpetuate the oppression by being party to it.

Yippie21 ,

And to sell the Russia-crap, the Obama administration purposely kicked diplomats out of the country and laid on sanctions in December. I'm curious enough to wonder how much of the White-helmet gas attacks in Syria ( that Trump reacted to ) were indirectly done to further the anti-Russia narrative by Obama folks.... After all, the whole Syria mess has his fingerprints all over it.

surf@jm ,

Big wow......

Clear and convincing evidence of a crime, obviously isn't a crime in Washington D.C., unless, of course, you are a conservative.....

fulliautomatix ,

little wow - Strzok deliberately documented the crimes on his and Page's phones.

thetruthhurts ,

It is unclear at this point to whom Strzok was referring when he used the term "sisters."

_______________________________

CIA, NSA etc.

PrivetHedge ,

I see what they are afraid of now.

The 'russiagate' stuff is now starting to reveal the very structure and organisation of the Deep State: once only suspected by the sheep, now it's coming into plain sight for all to see to the horror of all the pharisee jew vampires who are now seeing the first signs of dawn.

asscannon101 ,

That first pic in the article- the one of Strzok- that is a 'peyote face'. The crazy eyes and the grotesque, exaggerated facial grimacing. Mescaline will do that to you. I've read a lot of books about that shit. Just lucky that he didn't spaz out, shit in his pants, flop around on the floor squawking like a seagull and start chewing his own lips off. I've read a lot of books about that shit. A lot of books. Over and over again. A lot of fucking books.

troutback ,

Get a Fucking Rope and an Oak Tree. That's how I feel. It's fucking Treason!

Sheesh

tb

bobdog54 ,

The swamp aka the deep state is not only not a conspiracy theory but a real seditionous conspiracy against our Constitutional Laws and Way of Life. And much much deeper than most can imagine.

Automatic Choke ,

why are they not incarcerated?

this shit is an affront to all of us who follow the laws, respect election results, pay taxes, and try to be good citizens.

PUT THEM AWAY!!!!!

navy62802 ,

So we already know that these people committed sedition against the government based on the known evidence. One more tape doesn't prove the crime any more than the other evidence. All this does is drive home the fact that there were additional conspirators who protected these criminals from justice. It's fucking sickening.

Call me when someone in the government gets the balls to finally charge these criminals with the crimes they have obviously committed. Until then, new evidence is moot.

bobdog54 ,

Wish I could give you 100 up arrows!

All Risk No Reward ,

"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing."
― Malcolm X

The above is true, but only tangentially related to this topic in that it expresses the media LIES.

The TRUTH is that the BankstObama FBI worked overtime to get BankstoTrump "elected" as one of the Bankster financed "selections." Banksters "select" based on money and promotion, then you "vote" on their selection in an "election."

Let freeDUMB rain!

Here's how it worked...

1. Mid 2016, FBI became aware of Hellary's criminal activity.

2. Mid 2016, Comey sent memo stating Hellary would not be prosecuted. He did not say this is because she's a Money Power Sith Lord front woman who has a KMA card. Nick Rockefeller explained this to Aaron Russo, as told by Aaron himself when he was interviewed by Alex Jones. Oh, and Rockefeller told him the details of the post 9/11 Afghanistan invasion in advance, too. The interview is worth watching.

3. October, 2016, Comey announced an investigation into Hellary's criminal behavior. Uh, it was already determined she wouldn't be prosecuted, right? Yup. So why publicly imply she could be charged and convicted IF NOT TO AID AND ABET DONALD "HE'S WORTH MORE TO US (BANKSTERS) ALIVE THAN DEAD" TRUMP INTO THE WHITE HOUSE?

By the way, that's an accurate and real quote from an attorney that represents something like 50+ banks against Trump. He said it to describe why the Banksters didn't force Donald into bankruptcy and take all his stuff. Donald OWES the Banksters FOR EVERYTHING HE HAS TODAY THAT IS NOT POVERTY!

This is called an October Surprise, and they are rarely good.

4. After the elections, Comey announces that Hellary committed the crimes, was caught red handed, but wouldn't be prosecuted because she didn't intend to commit the crime. Try that at your next court date for running a stop sign you didn't see, serfer boys and girls.

5. Propaganda depicting Comey and Trump as enemies ensued immediately, lest the mindless rabble formulate the most obvious question in their wittle minds...

"Why did the Obama FBI create a phony October Surprise to hurt Hellary and promote Trump's election as President?"

That's not in the Money Power Matrix programming!

The reason is that the Banksters wanted Trump in office, because their debt-based money system bubble (largest in human history) is set to implode AND THERE IS NO PERSON ON PLANET EARTH THAT IS MORE CAPABLE OF MAGNETICALLY TAKING ALL THE BLAME ONTO HIMSELF THAN DONALD J. TRUMP.

Nobody.

The name of the game is to shield the Banksters and their debt-money system from criticism as the fraudulent ROOT CAUSE of the debt-money bubble bust cycles that asset strips entire societies and leads to systematic global oppression of all ordinary people. At least for those not directly or indirectly murdered by the Bankster anti-ordinary human agendas.

And, being promoted as an outsider, the Banksters get to save their two controlled privately incorporated "politically parties in the minds of Muppets" from taking full blame, therefore, all the Muppets will continue to think they have freedom because they get to "vote" for Bankster quisling #1 or Bankster quisling #2.

Let freeDUMB rain!

PS - The Banksters don't even care that I spill the beans on their plans because they know the masses, even the ZeroHedge masses, simply lack the imagination to envision the reality they Banksters have financed into existence.

alfbell ,

Wake me up once the handing out of prison sentences starts. If they never do, I don't want to wake up.

WarAndPeace ,

Only a politician would not recognize that they are criminals.... ah apply that whichever way you want.

LaugherNYC ,

Dead silence in the media about the entire FBI DOJ scandal for months. Only the occasional piece on conservative blogs. EIther Huber has Grand Jury true bills coming October 1 to slam on the Dems just before the midterms, or this coverup of Deep State malfeasance will go on until the Dems get the House and impeach Trump. The plan seems to let them all get away with their betrayal of the country.

McCabe should already be in prison, yet it seems like there has yet even been a decision to indict him... he might be in front of a gran d jury, or he might just be chillin waiting for his grievance with the union to be heard and be awarded back pay and pension vesting, a if what he did is equivalent to a guy driving his forklift into a wall at Costco after a beer.,

MrBoompi ,

Now "It's all about cooperation and sharing." What a crock of shit. They still want us to believe the government agencies didn't communicate with each other, or work together, before 911. That's high level propaganda that's still being used to cover up what happened on 911 and justify the anti-constitutional Patriot Act.

Captain Nemo de Erehwon ,

Moral of the story: Cherish incompetence. It is what prevents people from doing real damage. It is the sole hope for the world.

It was not hard-nosed intelligence and legal professionals running a secretive op to overturn the election. If it were there would not be this trail of text messages describing each step in detail. The amateurish execution, given all the assets at their disposal including Australian Ambassadors, mysterious European Professors, and other premiere intelligence agencies, even perhaps other US government agencies is like spoilt rich kids ruining their parents' ...hmm is that offensive nowadays? ...legal guardians' ...!@$# it ... father's company.

All Risk No Reward ,

>>Moral of the story: Cherish incompetence. <<

You don't comprehend the milieu.

The agendas include, but are not limited to:

1. Produce more debt - private, corporate, and governmental. Incompetence? On what planet? They are AMAZING!

2. Prevent the plebs from realizing #1. Again, they have you duped - and you aren't alone.

3. Pretend inferiority, so that concerted malevolent intent is not discerned. Art of War 101.

The are doing a stellar job at their true agendas.

Dare I say, so good that I can't exclude supernatural guidance.

Muddy1 ,

Why show the attractive pictures of Lisa Page? I liked the ones where she looked like the dimwit she is.

Pons Asinorum ,

She's more attractive with her mouth shut.

Yog Soggoth ,

"Sisters" may refer to sister agency.

"Sisters is an odd phrase to use," retired FBI special agent and former FBI national spokesman John Iannarelli told Fox News Wednesday. " It could be any intelligence agency or any other federal law enforcement agency. The FBI works with all of them because, post 9/11, it's all about cooperation and sharing. " Witches perhaps? Cotton Mather was right!

fulliautomatix ,

There's another William - "it's all about cooperation and sharing." Oh, and telling the truth.

Remington Steel ,

Treasonous fucks. They should all hang in D.C.'s National Mall.

SnatchnGrab ,

Hang them in the public square so that we may spit on them.

I am Groot ,

They should be staked down to the ground out in the desert, covered in honey and have ants poured all over them.

SaulAzzHoleSky ,

Strzok's lawyer will say that this refers to problems with his Depends, not the media.....

WTFUD ,

Down down deeper and down - that's pretty deep.

There's very little deep about the F-uk-us Political Establishment; empty suits, treasonous filth, cowardly, and yet, wholeheartedly believe they are principled. S.H.O.C.K.I.N.G

motoXdude ,

Just like enlightened, educated Liberals... those working in these agencies (and most likely the agencies themselves) are above the law and here to govern the great unwashed and deplorables! This IS THE DEEP STATE aka THE SWAMP! Time to drain it or drop a high tension power line in it!

Anunnaki ,

Leaking must not be a crime for Keebler Sessions

Mzhen ,

Wasn't it fortunate that Seth Rich was involved in transporting DNC data to WikiLeaks? Without the "hacking" link in the chain, the rest of the plan could not have been set into motion. Characterized as an ardent Bernie supporter, Seth Rich was actually scheduled to go to work at Hillary's campaign headquarters a few weeks after the date of his murder.

WTFUD ,

The Classic Clinton Foundation ENTRAPMENT.

The job offer being a ruse just in case they didn't get him 1st Time.

SirBarksAlot ,

According to this news clip, there are secret military tribunals going on and John McCain was executed for his treason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvryq1UnucI

WTFUD ,

His 3 remaining brain-cells were targeted with magnetic pulses like the one's going down at the US Embassy in CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBA.

HominyTwin ,

That's right! Powerful people are taking care of everything, and making sure all will be right with the USA once again, in the very near future, without effort or sacrifice or thinking on our part. That is wonderful news!!!!

south40_dreams ,

Build the gallows.

missionshk ,

my understanding is that there were 14 people from various agencies, in a chat room all committing treason, but dont here about that any more

ardent ,

While some are "Leaking Like Mad",

others are "Killing Like Mad".

WARNING: Graphic Images

alter_ ,

This is a coup, plain and simple, and the coup is winning.

Prosource ,

Not sure the coup is winning, but it's been almost 2 years and we are only this far in investigations and prosecutions ???

fulliautomatix ,

Trying to keep some of the legal community alive.

Dickweed Wang ,

Does Lisa Page have tits or are those mutant mosquito bites?

NewHugh ,

In my limited experience flat girls figure out a way to "compensate"...

I am Groot ,

Have you seen her smile ? She's all gums. I'll bet Stzrok loves when the vet takes her teeth out to clean them and she blows him.

GUMMY ! GUMMY ! GUMMY !

SirBarksAlot ,

It hasn't been determined if she has tits or not.

However, she certainly has balls.

cosmyccowboy ,

she needs the crocodille dundee test... the dept of injustice is trannies on parade!

Collectivism Killz ,

Just in case Qanon is wrong about Keebler Elf Sessions, can someone at least gently remind him that failure to prosecute will give creeps like Joe Biden a second shot at his Granddaughters? Not sure if he cares, but I would think an old hound dog such as Sessions would at least consider his final legacy on earth. All that Fried Chicken and chitlins have to catch up with him at some point.

Yog Soggoth ,

Everyone up on the Hill feels the fire burning below their feet, those who succumb will embrace the everlasting heat. Where is Billy? Can you clean this up for me?

Stan522 ,

"The FBI's coordination with the mainstream media surrounding the 2016 US election - a "media leak strategy" which was first first revealed Tuesday , goes far deeper than first reported, according to Fox News , which obtained "new communications between the former lovers." "

Questions arise....

The media obviously knows who is leaking and they also know who's been in the news relating to this investigation, yet, they still refuse to connect the dots and write about the uncontrollable sieve of leaks

The media also refuses to put any focus on the drip by drip bits of information about how there was bias. The devilcRAT talking heads are in contortions trying to excuse all of this and the MSM are allowing it.

The Inspector General apparently conducted an investigation on all of this shit's and concluded there was no bias, yet every day there seems to be more evidence that there was extreme bias. What more needs to be shown to get the media talking about it?

Last weeks breaking news had shown that Andrew Weisman (yes, the same clown that now works for Mueller's hit squad) as colluding with Bruck Ohr and Christopher Steele during the creation of that fake news Dossier and Weisman was feeding information to Mueller. When will Mueller drop this scam investigation?

There are still republicans that hold the opinion that Mueller must be allowed to finish his investigation. With the fact that Weisman was part of the hit squad creating dirt about Trump, at what point are these idiot politicians are going to grow a pair and start talking about all of this? It seems they are the same lazy thinkers that go along with the man caused global warming hoax.

Yesterday's breaking news was about what DeGenova stated about the meeting in obama's office with Rice, Yates, Biden, Comey, and Obama. He says "It was a meeting to discuss how Sally Yates was going to get Michael Flynn. And the President of the United States, Barack Obama, was directly involved in these discussions." Yet NOTHING was shown on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC and the rest about this.

lookslikecraptome ,

Just put up the link to fox news that ran this story. Talk about a cut and paste.

ZazzOne ,

BOOM!!! BOOM!!! BOOM!!!

SirBarksAlot ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8oF7QGPF4E

Boom, boom, boom, let's go back to my room and we can do it all night and you can make me feel right.

SHADEWELL ,

Here is the communist party website...see if the message differs significantly from the Democrat agenda

http://www.cpusa.org/article/a-communist-approach-to-election-work-in-2018/

"As Communists, we work in the elections not just for a candidate but strategically to build and strengthen the movement and our Party for the long term. The situation varies greatly from one state and election district to the next so tactics have to be developed locally. The more we share our concrete experiences, the more we can learn and get ideas from each other. Here are thoughts for consideration:

1. Where to concentrate?

Clubs: the neighborhood or election district where the club is located;

Districts: election districts that can be flipped; election districts where working-class champions who are incumbents are under attack; election districts with a progressive primary candidate.

2. What goals?

• build a voter base to change the political balance of forces;
• strengthen relationships with unions, left/progressive electoral forms like Our Revolution (OR) and Working Famlies Party (WFP), etc;
• raise the level of class consciousness, unity and solidarity;
• enlarge the CPUSA diverse working-class membership and readership of People's World;
• identify among our members potential candidates for local office.

3. What methods?

Voter registration: laws differ from state to state. Where there is postcard registration, door-to-door work with voter cards and issue petitions and sign-ups are a great way to identify people who want to become engaged and who we can follow up with to vote and get involved. Tabling with voter cards, issue petitions, People's World and literature is another way, but harder to follow up with people in scattered geography. Increasing voter turnout in working-class communities can win elections and create the base for organizing to win a people's program. It is a direct challenge to the corporate right-wing that depends on depressing and suppressing the vote.

Participate with allies: Unions, progressive community groups and left/progressive electoral forms are the best way to participate in campaigns and build the movement for the long term. Organizations vary from place to place. Labor 2018 is the AFL-CIO program and anyone can take part in phone banks and visits to the homes of union members. Each union also has its own election program that union members should prioritize. Local issue coalitions or ballot initiatives are also important venues, for example Jobs with Justice, Planned Parenthood, Fight for 15, the Poor People's Campaign, Millions of Jobs etc. Left and progressive electoral organizations that have endorsed candidates with strong programs are a strategic way to participate such as Our Revolution, Working Families Party, Indivisible, etc. If you are just getting started this is a great way to reach out.

Chupacabra-322 ,

They really thought Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopath Hillary Clinton would win.

And, with it. Complete destruction of Conservatism, Libertarian Values, & Ideology.

Her Crimes would have never been uncovered or bought out into the open as we're witnessing.

Much was at stake. Everything was lost.

The Presidency LOST.

Weaponized Intelligence Community with Agents, Assets & Operatives. LOST.

Complicit, Criminal Loyal CIA, FBI, DOJ. LOST.

Supreme Court. LOST.

No doubt, the censorship & Gas Lighting would have been turned on fully.

And, with it Tyrannical Lawlessness.

mc888 ,

How about the "Free Press"? Exposed as nothing but a corrupt propganda outlet for the DS.

"Free Independent Journalism" LOST.

All these MSM propaganda outlets need their FCC licenses revoked for broadcasting false information and hoaxes.

https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/broadcasting-false-information

18 U.S. Code § 1038 - False information and hoaxes

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1038

Add RICO charges and prosecute every exec, editor, and agent undercover as a media whore hiding behind the First Amendment to commit their crimes.

Yog Soggoth ,

Orson Welles - War Of The Worlds - Radio Broadcast 1938 ...

Orson Welles - War Of The Worlds - Radio Broadcast 1938 - Complete Broadcast. The War of theWorlds was an episode of the American radio drama anthology seri...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs0K4ApWl4g Nothing new. He even used the weather!

youshallnotkill ,

If the FBI really would have put its muscle behind it HRC would be president.

Instead Comey was waffling, re-opening the email investigation and writing a mealy-mouthed letter to Congress just before the election.

It's pretty funny to watch the Tyler Kremlin boys try to contort this into a Deep State conspiracy to prevent Trump and get HRC elected. If so this would have been the most inept conspiracy ever.

debtserf ,

News Flash: It was (inept).

How else are we finding all this out?

"Trump won therefore there cannot have been a conspiracy" is not a cogent argument.

Paralentor ,

We all knew it. What the Soros owned Social Media and Rothschild AP/Reuters owned mainstream choose to tell the sleeping public is an entirely different story.

justyouwait ,

So if we didn't live in a banana republic these guys would all be in prison or at least going through some court proceedings for what they did. Not here though. No sir, we live in a full blown, first world banana republic where the power elite are truly far better off than the peons that pay their way but we offer enough distractions on so many levels that most of the peons don't realize they are being played and many that do throw up their hands and say ho hum, I have nothing to worry about (as long as they can have their entertainment & distractions).

The whole FBI has to be tore down and redone from the ground up. Sure the Deep State would want total control of the national and most powerful police force. This is how you control government and the peons. It has shown itself to be beyond corrupt. Yes there may be many good ones still out there but how do we know anymore? Wipe it out and start again. Yes, I know it won't happen because it is far too huge a labyrinth to dismantle & reassemble but the point is still valid. I guess the best we can hope for is to take down some at the top and then make them squeal on the others. Won't happen until we reform the DOJ first though.

DRTexas ,

What? Sorry, I wasn't listening. I was thinking about the bread, circuses, and the bit of meat and cake they are allowing me to have.

Mercuryquicksilver ,

Cults have "Sisters".

Chupacabra-322 ,

Mocking Bird, Presstitute, Deep State "Sister" appendages.

chubbar ,

No question these folks are committing treason/sedition and it goes directly to Obama, that fucking traitor. God, I hope these fuckers swing!

Itdoesntmatter ,

fuck you people are fucking stupid....The people writing this shit are laughing at you idiot sheeple...

Totin ,

Riiiiiight. You are a dumb phuck if you don't think this kind of news makes a huge difference.

1970SSNova396 ,

I will have to wait until Strzok's Jew lawyer tells us the real deal. They don't lie for sure. There is a golden calf joke in there somewhere.

Hadenough1000 ,

Comey will be in jail when this is over

1970SSNova396 ,

That can't happen! The entire US government will be jail if that were to happen including half the house and 80% of the senate past and present.

NMmom ,

I have no problem with that. Do you?

fulliautomatix ,

They ought to be happy they're only going to jail.

Stan522 ,

Comey was following orders....

A fish stinks starting at the head

No one at the top ever pays the price, they usually find an underling to take the fall, so don't expect jail time for obama.....

1970SSNova396 ,

Hillary wasn't joking when she said " we all will hang from nooses if the fuking bastard wins"

To be continued.

Hadenough1000 ,

This is why anyone paying attention KNOWS that this makes watergate look like a kindergarten party

ISIS Barry weaponized the hell out of our government

just like they do in third world dumps where that Muslim pig was raised

all the felons this time are obamas boys

MedTechEntrepreneur ,

I want these two Yay-hoo's Waterboarded and Propofal'ed tonight! Live streamed nationwide. I want the truth...all of it!

peippe ,

to learn what? that these lovers loved hillary & thought they were doing 'god's work'?

please, it's like listening to francis the leader of the catholic church these days.

Gitmo for all of them.

Kosher meals till they quit lying.

All the other detainees get Egg McMuffins.

SHADEWELL ,

Gums and Butter

Page and the balding weirdo dickhead...match made in hell

Strzok has to be the most fucked up individual I have ever seen...a 50 yr old that acts like an effeminate weirdo

Fucking scary that a weirdo like that can obtain a position that high in "intelligence"

Truly fucked up...must have been servicing folks like Brennan

topshelfstuff ,

Sure Previously Known, But Not Previously Believed To Be

r0mulus ,

Operation Mockingbird lives on, just as we, the "conspiracy theorists" said.

And look who was wrong about reality in the end:
The ones pretending nothing was/is wrong, and that we were/are crazy.

Well who's crazy now motherfuckers?
Looks like it's you lot over there, desperately clinging to your MSM/DNC/GOP idols, asking for FB/Twitter/Google to ban everything too inconvenient for your "reality".

Face the truth for once: the collusion is and has always been between the MSM/DNC/GOP/Alphabet Agencies and the DEEP STATE. And you perpetuate the oppression by being party to it.

JoeTurner ,

I sometimes lose sleep wondering how horrific things would be if the Clinton Crime Cabal was in power. All over the TV in New York demorats are running insane political ads for Cuomo, Nixon, Teachout and all the rest of the wild eyed communist wack jobs. Not one of them has any proposals to govern better or improve the life of the middle class. Its all about aggrieved minorities sticking it to whitey for 'mo gimmies'

Hadenough1000 ,

If that fat drunk and her raping Pig hubby had won then

MS13 Killers would be in the streets with their amnesty papers and new welfare checks and voter Registration

weinstein would be in the cabinet

Rapist clinton and ISIS Barry would be on the Supreme Court

we would be losing 200,000 jobs a week again like with Barry

thank God for Trump

Prosource ,

And Mike Rogers.

And Bill Binney.

And Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan.

1970SSNova396 ,

New York is a shithole country ...a lost cause....JewVille

Zappalives ,

nyc is a parasite on the real America and must be destroyed.

Prosource ,

Babylon will fall..

Count on it..

Just hope we can survive the tumor removal.

Yippie21 ,

And to sell the Russia-crap, the Obama administration purposely kicked diplomats out of the country and laid on sanctions in December. I'm curious enough to wonder how much of the White-helmet gas attacks in Syria ( that Trump reacted to ) were indirectly done to further the anti-Russia narrative by Obama folks.... After all, the whole Syria mess has his fingerprints all over it.

surf@jm ,

Big wow......

Clear and convincing evidence of a crime, obviously isn't a crime in Washington D.C., unless, of course, you are a conservative.....

fulliautomatix ,

little wow - Strzok deliberately documented the crimes on his and Page's phones.

thetruthhurts ,

It is unclear at this point to whom Strzok was referring when he used the term "sisters."

_______________________________

CIA, NSA etc.

attah-boy-Luther ,

16 more 'sisters eh?

yipper....pedos love like a set of arkansas cousins as well...lol.

PrivetHedge ,

I see what they are afraid of now.

The 'russiagate' stuff is now starting to reveal the very structure and organisation of the Deep State: once only suspected by the sheep, now it's coming into plain sight for all to see to the horror of all the pharisee jew vampires who are now seeing the first signs of dawn.

valerie24 ,

God, I hope you're right.

insanelysane ,

Still want to see the communication between the lovers at the time Seth Rich was murdered.

the artist ,

" Sisters " is code for " News Outlets "

BankSurfyMan ,

Looking like a gimp for MSM, 'More than anyone, Special Agent Strzok wants to testify publicly and attempt to have the unfiltered truth be heard,' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5926345/FBI-agent-removed-Mueller-team-set-testify-publicly.html next HEDGE!

Wahooo ,

So...under the ruse of consolidating agencies under Homeland Security to effectively coordinate against terrorism, they now are organized to effectively coordinate a battle against anyone of their choosing.

i think we've been had.

consider me gone ,

It was only a matter of time. Thing is, is that it took almost no time at all. Go figure. So much for that Constitution thingy. What did Franklin say again, when he left the Constitution Convention?

Chupacabra-322 ,

The Deep State collects blackmail data on all Democratic & Republican members that are in positions of power. That is how they are able to keep secrets and control politicians.

The entire Surveillance Infrastructure Is & was being used for one thing. .. To build blackmail 'Control Files' on thousands if not millions of Americans. ... An Extortion Tool. .. NOTHING legal about it.

The Awan Case is the biggest Criminal, Treasonous, Seditious Intelligence Political Espionage Operation of our lifetime.

And, the Awans were let off the Hook. That alone is telling of how far down the Tyrannical Lawless Espionage rabbit hole it is.

Idiocracy's Not Sure ,

FBI-DOJ-MSM Collusion Went Far Deeper Than Previously Known ..Never Underestimate The Power Of Stupid People In Large Groups.....NUTPOSPILG

valerie24 ,

Agree, but will the real culprits be convicted? I'm talking about the dual citizens that have kept us in endless wars in the Middle East, some of whom have active roles in the White House.

No doubt Rosenstein, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Ohr, Strozk, Page, etc. Should be in jail. Hell, Sessions should probably be in jail just for failing to act.

What about the rest? The 9/11 conspirators - Silverstein, Bush, Cheney, the CIA and Mossad, the dancing fucking Israeli's?

What a shit show

conraddobler ,

It's all just a show, even Q says constantly to "Enjoy the show"

I haven't liked this show for about 10 plus years and it wasn't that good before and on top of all that, the illusion to which I have awoken from about that time seems to have shattered any illusions that were concurrent to it.

In reality, our country was taken from us at least 100 years ago "if not much more, and if we ever really had one" and if anyone thinks that they will ever "give it back" then you are in fact suffering from a severe reality gap.

There are no "good guys" when they want to put the ring on to save us all they still unfortunately will have to put the damn ring on to do it.

No one is advocating what actually needs to be done, namely finding a band of hobbits to toss it into the fire from whence it came.

Just because some honorable people want to stop dishonorable people from doing dishonorable things does not mean when they are elevated to such positions of power that they won't turn themselves, they always do.

Until the MIC collapses we will forever be slaves to someone, doesn't matter who, bankers or the military, either way we will not be free.

Restoring the rule of law would mean public trials, not military tribunals, a fact which people aren't discussing at all.

The way they caught these people was the spying on everyone. The very power that most threatens our liberties will restore our liberties?

What are the odds of that?

I'm not blind, the world is a dangerous place, maybe liberty is just too tough or impossible to exercise in the modern world?

Clearly we were nearing a horrible fate and I am grateful for being saved form something worse even if it only flips us out of one pan to the next the other pan was intolerably hot.

What I most want to point out above all else is that human freedom is exceedingly fragile and tough to win, it should be guarded much more closely and absolute power will always corrupt so anything we do to navigate as a nation needs to adhere to the constitution as closely as possible.

I don't like being told there have to be secrets, I don't like military tribunals, I'm not saying that we don't need a military.

We need a military and we need it badly and we need to get out money's worth out of it.

I can only ask that instead of a show, give me the real damn thing, I want, along with millions upon millions of other Americans, REAL DAMN LIBERTY!

asscannon101 ,

That first pic in the article- the one of Strzok- that is a 'peyote face'. The crazy eyes and the grotesque, exaggerated facial grimacing. Mescaline will do that to you. I've read a lot of books about that shit. Just lucky that he didn't spaz out, shit in his pants, flop around on the floor squawking like a seagull and start chewing his own lips off. I've read a lot of books about that shit. A lot of books. Over and over again. A lot of fucking books.

troutback ,

Get a Fucking Rope and an Oak Tree. That's how I feel. It's fucking Treason!

Sheesh

tb

bobdog54 ,

The swamp aka the deep state is not only not a conspiracy theory but a real seditionous conspiracy against our Constitutional Laws and Way of Life. And much much deeper than most can imagine.

Automatic Choke ,

why are they not incarcerated?

this shit is an affront to all of us who follow the laws, respect election results, pay taxes, and try to be good citizens.

PUT THEM AWAY!!!!!

navy62802 ,

So we already know that these people committed sedition against the government based on the known evidence. One more tape doesn't prove the crime any more than the other evidence. All this does is drive home the fact that there were additional conspirators who protected these criminals from justice. It's fucking sickening.

Call me when someone in the government gets the balls to finally charge these criminals with the crimes they have obviously committed. Until then, new evidence is moot.

bobdog54 ,

Wish I could give you 100 up arrows!

All Risk No Reward ,

"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing."
― Malcolm X

The above is true, but only tangentially related to this topic in that it expresses the media LIES.

The TRUTH is that the BankstObama FBI worked overtime to get BankstoTrump "elected" as one of the Bankster financed "selections." Banksters "select" based on money and promotion, then you "vote" on their selection in an "election."

Let freeDUMB rain!

Here's how it worked...

1. Mid 2016, FBI became aware of Hellary's criminal activity.

2. Mid 2016, Comey sent memo stating Hellary would not be prosecuted. He did not say this is because she's a Money Power Sith Lord front woman who has a KMA card. Nick Rockefeller explained this to Aaron Russo, as told by Aaron himself when he was interviewed by Alex Jones. Oh, and Rockefeller told him the details of the post 9/11 Afghanistan invasion in advance, too. The interview is worth watching.

3. October, 2016, Comey announced an investigation into Hellary's criminal behavior. Uh, it was already determined she wouldn't be prosecuted, right? Yup. So why publicly imply she could be charged and convicted IF NOT TO AID AND ABET DONALD "HE'S WORTH MORE TO US (BANKSTERS) ALIVE THAN DEAD" TRUMP INTO THE WHITE HOUSE?

By the way, that's an accurate and real quote from an attorney that represents something like 50+ banks against Trump. He said it to describe why the Banksters didn't force Donald into bankruptcy and take all his stuff. Donald OWES the Banksters FOR EVERYTHING HE HAS TODAY THAT IS NOT POVERTY!

This is called an October Surprise, and they are rarely good.

4. After the elections, Comey announces that Hellary committed the crimes, was caught red handed, but wouldn't be prosecuted because she didn't intend to commit the crime. Try that at your next court date for running a stop sign you didn't see, serfer boys and girls.

5. Propaganda depicting Comey and Trump as enemies ensued immediately, lest the mindless rabble formulate the most obvious question in their wittle minds...

"Why did the Obama FBI create a phony October Surprise to hurt Hellary and promote Trump's election as President?"

That's not in the Money Power Matrix programming!

The reason is that the Banksters wanted Trump in office, because their debt-based money system bubble (largest in human history) is set to implode AND THERE IS NO PERSON ON PLANET EARTH THAT IS MORE CAPABLE OF MAGNETICALLY TAKING ALL THE BLAME ONTO HIMSELF THAN DONALD J. TRUMP.

Nobody.

The name of the game is to shield the Banksters and their debt-money system from criticism as the fraudulent ROOT CAUSE of the debt-money bubble bust cycles that asset strips entire societies and leads to systematic global oppression of all ordinary people. At least for those not directly or indirectly murdered by the Bankster anti-ordinary human agendas.

And, being promoted as an outsider, the Banksters get to save their two controlled privately incorporated "politically parties in the minds of Muppets" from taking full blame, therefore, all the Muppets will continue to think they have freedom because they get to "vote" for Bankster quisling #1 or Bankster quisling #2.

Let freeDUMB rain!

PS - The Banksters don't even care that I spill the beans on their plans because they know the masses, even the ZeroHedge masses, simply lack the imagination to envision the reality they Banksters have financed into existence.

alfbell ,

Wake me up once the handing out of prison sentences starts. If they never do, I don't want to wake up.

WarAndPeace ,

Only a politician would not recognize that they are criminals.... ah apply that whichever way you want.

LaugherNYC ,

Dead silence in the media about the entire FBI DOJ scandal for months. Only the occasional piece on conservative blogs. EIther Huber has Grand Jury true bills coming October 1 to slam on the Dems just before the midterms, or this coverup of Deep State malfeasance will go on until the Dems get the House and impeach Trump. The plan seems to let them all get away with their betrayal of the country.

McCabe should already be in prison, yet it seems like there has yet even been a decision to indict him... he might be in front of a gran d jury, or he might just be chillin waiting for his grievance with the union to be heard and be awarded back pay and pension vesting, a if what he did is equivalent to a guy driving his forklift into a wall at Costco after a beer.,

MrBoompi ,

Now "It's all about cooperation and sharing." What a crock of shit. They still want us to believe the government agencies didn't communicate with each other, or work together, before 911. That's high level propaganda that's still being used to cover up what happened on 911 and justify the anti-constitutional Patriot Act.

Captain Nemo de Erehwon ,

Moral of the story: Cherish incompetence. It is what prevents people from doing real damage. It is the sole hope for the world.

It was not hard-nosed intelligence and legal professionals running a secretive op to overturn the election. If it were there would not be this trail of text messages describing each step in detail. The amateurish execution, given all the assets at their disposal including Australian Ambassadors, mysterious European Professors, and other premiere intelligence agencies, even perhaps other US government agencies is like spoilt rich kids ruining their parents' ...hmm is that offensive nowadays? ...legal guardians' ...!@$# it ... father's company.

All Risk No Reward ,

>>Moral of the story: Cherish incompetence. <<

You don't comprehend the milieu.

The agendas include, but are not limited to:

1. Produce more debt - private, corporate, and governmental. Incompetence? On what planet? They are AMAZING!

2. Prevent the plebs from realizing #1. Again, they have you duped - and you aren't alone.

3. Pretend inferiority, so that concerted malevolent intent is not discerned. Art of War 101.

The are doing a stellar job at their true agendas.

Dare I say, so good that I can't exclude supernatural guidance.

Muddy1 ,

Why show the attractive pictures of Lisa Page? I liked the ones where she looked like the dimwit she is.

Pons Asinorum ,

She's more attractive with her mouth shut.

Yog Soggoth ,

"Sisters" may refer to sister agency.

"Sisters is an odd phrase to use," retired FBI special agent and former FBI national spokesman John Iannarelli told Fox News Wednesday. " It could be any intelligence agency or any other federal law enforcement agency. The FBI works with all of them because, post 9/11, it's all about cooperation and sharing. " Witches perhaps? Cotton Mather was right!

fulliautomatix ,

There's another William - "it's all about cooperation and sharing." Oh, and telling the truth.

Remington Steel ,

Treasonous fucks. They should all hang in D.C.'s National Mall.

SnatchnGrab ,

Hang them in the public square so that we may spit on them.

I am Groot ,

They should be staked down to the ground out in the desert, covered in honey and have ants poured all over them.

SaulAzzHoleSky ,

Strzok's lawyer will say that this refers to problems with his Depends, not the media.....

WTFUD ,

Down down deeper and down - that's pretty deep.

There's very little deep about the F-uk-us Political Establishment; empty suits, treasonous filth, cowardly, and yet, wholeheartedly believe they are principled. S.H.O.C.K.I.N.G

motoXdude ,

Just like enlightened, educated Liberals... those working in these agencies (and most likely the agencies themselves) are above the law and here to govern the great unwashed and deplorables! This IS THE DEEP STATE aka THE SWAMP! Time to drain it or drop a high tension power line in it!

Anunnaki ,

Leaking must not be a crime for Keebler Sessions

Mzhen ,

Wasn't it fortunate that Seth Rich was involved in transporting DNC data to WikiLeaks? Without the "hacking" link in the chain, the rest of the plan could not have been set into motion. Characterized as an ardent Bernie supporter, Seth Rich was actually scheduled to go to work at Hillary's campaign headquarters a few weeks after the date of his murder.

WTFUD ,

The Classic Clinton Foundation ENTRAPMENT.

The job offer being a ruse just in case they didn't get him 1st Time.

SirBarksAlot ,

According to this news clip, there are secret military tribunals going on and John McCain was executed for his treason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvryq1UnucI

WTFUD ,

His 3 remaining brain-cells were targeted with magnetic pulses like the one's going down at the US Embassy in CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBA.

HominyTwin ,

That's right! Powerful people are taking care of everything, and making sure all will be right with the USA once again, in the very near future, without effort or sacrifice or thinking on our part. That is wonderful news!!!!

south40_dreams ,

Build the gallows.

missionshk ,

my understanding is that there were 14 people from various agencies, in a chat room all committing treason, but dont here about that any more

ardent ,

While some are "Leaking Like Mad",

others are "Killing Like Mad".

WARNING: Graphic Images

alter_ ,

This is a coup, plain and simple, and the coup is winning.

Prosource ,

Not sure the coup is winning, but it's been almost 2 years and we are only this far in investigations and prosecutions ???

fulliautomatix ,

Trying to keep some of the legal community alive.

Dickweed Wang ,

Does Lisa Page have tits or are those mutant mosquito bites?

NewHugh ,

In my limited experience flat girls figure out a way to "compensate"...

I am Groot ,

Have you seen her smile ? She's all gums. I'll bet Stzrok loves when the vet takes her teeth out to clean them and she blows him.

GUMMY ! GUMMY ! GUMMY !

SirBarksAlot ,

It hasn't been determined if she has tits or not.

However, she certainly has balls.

cosmyccowboy ,

she needs the crocodille dundee test... the dept of injustice is trannies on parade!

Collectivism Killz ,

Just in case Qanon is wrong about Keebler Elf Sessions, can someone at least gently remind him that failure to prosecute will give creeps like Joe Biden a second shot at his Granddaughters? Not sure if he cares, but I would think an old hound dog such as Sessions would at least consider his final legacy on earth. All that Fried Chicken and chitlins have to catch up with him at some point.

Yog Soggoth ,

Everyone up on the Hill feels the fire burning below their feet, those who succumb will embrace the everlasting heat. Where is Billy? Can you clean this up for me?

Stan522 ,

"The FBI's coordination with the mainstream media surrounding the 2016 US election - a "media leak strategy" which was first first revealed Tuesday , goes far deeper than first reported, according to Fox News , which obtained "new communications between the former lovers." "

Questions arise....

The media obviously knows who is leaking and they also know who's been in the news relating to this investigation, yet, they still refuse to connect the dots and write about the uncontrollable sieve of leaks

The media also refuses to put any focus on the drip by drip bits of information about how there was bias. The devilcRAT talking heads are in contortions trying to excuse all of this and the MSM are allowing it.

The Inspector General apparently conducted an investigation on all of this shit's and concluded there was no bias, yet every day there seems to be more evidence that there was extreme bias. What more needs to be shown to get the media talking about it?

Last weeks breaking news had shown that Andrew Weisman (yes, the same clown that now works for Mueller's hit squad) as colluding with Bruck Ohr and Christopher Steele during the creation of that fake news Dossier and Weisman was feeding information to Mueller. When will Mueller drop this scam investigation?

There are still republicans that hold the opinion that Mueller must be allowed to finish his investigation. With the fact that Weisman was part of the hit squad creating dirt about Trump, at what point are these idiot politicians are going to grow a pair and start talking about all of this? It seems they are the same lazy thinkers that go along with the man caused global warming hoax.

Yesterday's breaking news was about what DeGenova stated about the meeting in obama's office with Rice, Yates, Biden, Comey, and Obama. He says "It was a meeting to discuss how Sally Yates was going to get Michael Flynn. And the President of the United States, Barack Obama, was directly involved in these discussions." Yet NOTHING was shown on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC and the rest about this.

lookslikecraptome ,

Just put up the link to fox news that ran this story. Talk about a cut and paste.

ZazzOne ,

BOOM!!! BOOM!!! BOOM!!!

SirBarksAlot ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8oF7QGPF4E

Boom, boom, boom, let's go back to my room and we can do it all night and you can make me feel right.

SHADEWELL ,

Here is the communist party website...see if the message differs significantly from the Democrat agenda

http://www.cpusa.org/article/a-communist-approach-to-election-work-in-2018/

"As Communists, we work in the elections not just for a candidate but strategically to build and strengthen the movement and our Party for the long term. The situation varies greatly from one state and election district to the next so tactics have to be developed locally. The more we share our concrete experiences, the more we can learn and get ideas from each other. Here are thoughts for consideration:

1. Where to concentrate?

Clubs: the neighborhood or election district where the club is located;

Districts: election districts that can be flipped; election districts where working-class champions who are incumbents are under attack; election districts with a progressive primary candidate.

2. What goals?

• build a voter base to change the political balance of forces;
• strengthen relationships with unions, left/progressive electoral forms like Our Revolution (OR) and Working Famlies Party (WFP), etc;
• raise the level of class consciousness, unity and solidarity;
• enlarge the CPUSA diverse working-class membership and readership of People's World;
• identify among our members potential candidates for local office.

3. What methods?

Voter registration: laws differ from state to state. Where there is postcard registration, door-to-door work with voter cards and issue petitions and sign-ups are a great way to identify people who want to become engaged and who we can follow up with to vote and get involved. Tabling with voter cards, issue petitions, People's World and literature is another way, but harder to follow up with people in scattered geography. Increasing voter turnout in working-class communities can win elections and create the base for organizing to win a people's program. It is a direct challenge to the corporate right-wing that depends on depressing and suppressing the vote.

Participate with allies: Unions, progressive community groups and left/progressive electoral forms are the best way to participate in campaigns and build the movement for the long term. Organizations vary from place to place. Labor 2018 is the AFL-CIO program and anyone can take part in phone banks and visits to the homes of union members. Each union also has its own election program that union members should prioritize. Local issue coalitions or ballot initiatives are also important venues, for example Jobs with Justice, Planned Parenthood, Fight for 15, the Poor People's Campaign, Millions of Jobs etc. Left and progressive electoral organizations that have endorsed candidates with strong programs are a strategic way to participate such as Our Revolution, Working Families Party, Indivisible, etc. If you are just getting started this is a great way to reach out.

Chupacabra-322 ,

They really thought Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopath Hillary Clinton would win.

And, with it. Complete destruction of Conservatism, Libertarian Values, & Ideology.

Her Crimes would have never been uncovered or bought out into the open as we're witnessing.

Much was at stake. Everything was lost.

The Presidency LOST.

Weaponized Intelligence Community with Agents, Assets & Operatives. LOST.

Complicit, Criminal Loyal CIA, FBI, DOJ. LOST.

Supreme Court. LOST.

No doubt, the censorship & Gas Lighting would have been turned on fully.

And, with it Tyrannical Lawlessness.

mc888 ,

How about the "Free Press"? Exposed as nothing but a corrupt propganda outlet for the DS.

"Free Independent Journalism" LOST.

All these MSM propaganda outlets need their FCC licenses revoked for broadcasting false information and hoaxes.

https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/broadcasting-false-information

18 U.S. Code § 1038 - False information and hoaxes

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1038

Add RICO charges and prosecute every exec, editor, and agent undercover as a media whore hiding behind the First Amendment to commit their crimes.

Yog Soggoth ,

Orson Welles - War Of The Worlds - Radio Broadcast 1938 ...

Orson Welles - War Of The Worlds - Radio Broadcast 1938 - Complete Broadcast. The War of theWorlds was an episode of the American radio drama anthology seri...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs0K4ApWl4g Nothing new. He even used the weather!

youshallnotkill ,

If the FBI really would have put its muscle behind it HRC would be president.

Instead Comey was waffling, re-opening the email investigation and writing a mealy-mouthed letter to Congress just before the election.

It's pretty funny to watch the Tyler Kremlin boys try to contort this into a Deep State conspiracy to prevent Trump and get HRC elected. If so this would have been the most inept conspiracy ever.

debtserf ,

News Flash: It was (inept).

How else are we finding all this out?

"Trump won therefore there cannot have been a conspiracy" is not a cogent argument.

Paralentor ,

We all knew it. What the Soros owned Social Media and Rothschild AP/Reuters owned mainstream choose to tell the sleeping public is an entirely different story.

justyouwait ,

So if we didn't live in a banana republic these guys would all be in prison or at least going through some court proceedings for what they did. Not here though. No sir, we live in a full blown, first world banana republic where the power elite are truly far better off than the peons that pay their way but we offer enough distractions on so many levels that most of the peons don't realize they are being played and many that do throw up their hands and say ho hum, I have nothing to worry about (as long as they can have their entertainment & distractions).

The whole FBI has to be tore down and redone from the ground up. Sure the Deep State would want total control of the national and most powerful police force. This is how you control government and the peons. It has shown itself to be beyond corrupt. Yes there may be many good ones still out there but how do we know anymore? Wipe it out and start again. Yes, I know it won't happen because it is far too huge a labyrinth to dismantle & reassemble but the point is still valid. I guess the best we can hope for is to take down some at the top and then make them squeal on the others. Won't happen until we reform the DOJ first though.

DRTexas ,

What? Sorry, I wasn't listening. I was thinking about the bread, circuses, and the bit of meat and cake they are allowing me to have.

Mercuryquicksilver ,

Cults have "Sisters".

Chupacabra-322 ,

Mocking Bird, Presstitute, Deep State "Sister" appendages.

chubbar ,

No question these folks are committing treason/sedition and it goes directly to Obama, that fucking traitor. God, I hope these fuckers swing!

Itdoesntmatter ,

fuck you people are fucking stupid....The people writing this shit are laughing at you idiot sheeple...

Totin ,

Riiiiiight. You are a dumb phuck if you don't think this kind of news makes a huge difference.

1970SSNova396 ,

I will have to wait until Strzok's Jew lawyer tells us the real deal. They don't lie for sure. There is a golden calf joke in there somewhere.

Hadenough1000 ,

Comey will be in jail when this is over

1970SSNova396 ,

That can't happen! The entire US government will be jail if that were to happen including half the house and 80% of the senate past and present.

NMmom ,

I have no problem with that. Do you?

fulliautomatix ,

They ought to be happy they're only going to jail.

Stan522 ,

Comey was following orders....

A fish stinks starting at the head

No one at the top ever pays the price, they usually find an underling to take the fall, so don't expect jail time for obama.....

1970SSNova396 ,

Hillary wasn't joking when she said " we all will hang from nooses if the fuking bastard wins"

To be continued.

Hadenough1000 ,

This is why anyone paying attention KNOWS that this makes watergate look like a kindergarten party

ISIS Barry weaponized the hell out of our government

just like they do in third world dumps where that Muslim pig was raised

all the felons this time are obamas boys

MedTechEntrepreneur ,

I want these two Yay-hoo's Waterboarded and Propofal'ed tonight! Live streamed nationwide. I want the truth...all of it!

peippe ,

to learn what? that these lovers loved hillary & thought they were doing 'god's work'?

please, it's like listening to francis the leader of the catholic church these days.

Gitmo for all of them.

Kosher meals till they quit lying.

All the other detainees get Egg McMuffins.

SHADEWELL ,

Gums and Butter

Page and the balding weirdo dickhead...match made in hell

Strzok has to be the most fucked up individual I have ever seen...a 50 yr old that acts like an effeminate weirdo

Fucking scary that a weirdo like that can obtain a position that high in "intelligence"

Truly fucked up...must have been servicing folks like Brennan

topshelfstuff ,

Sure Previously Known, But Not Previously Believed To Be

r0mulus ,

Operation Mockingbird lives on, just as we, the "conspiracy theorists" said.

And look who was wrong about reality in the end:
The ones pretending nothing was/is wrong, and that we were/are crazy.

Well who's crazy now motherfuckers?
Looks like it's you lot over there, desperately clinging to your MSM/DNC/GOP idols, asking for FB/Twitter/Google to ban everything too inconvenient for your "reality".

Face the truth for once: the collusion is and has always been between the MSM/DNC/GOP/Alphabet Agencies and the DEEP STATE. And you perpetuate the oppression by being party to it.

JoeTurner ,

I sometimes lose sleep wondering how horrific things would be if the Clinton Crime Cabal was in power. All over the TV in New York demorats are running insane political ads for Cuomo, Nixon, Teachout and all the rest of the wild eyed communist wack jobs. Not one of them has any proposals to govern better or improve the life of the middle class. Its all about aggrieved minorities sticking it to whitey for 'mo gimmies'

Hadenough1000 ,

If that fat drunk and her raping Pig hubby had won then

MS13 Killers would be in the streets with their amnesty papers and new welfare checks and voter Registration

weinstein would be in the cabinet

Rapist clinton and ISIS Barry would be on the Supreme Court

we would be losing 200,000 jobs a week again like with Barry

thank God for Trump

Prosource ,

And Mike Rogers.

And Bill Binney.

And Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan.

1970SSNova396 ,

New York is a shithole country ...a lost cause....JewVille

Zappalives ,

nyc is a parasite on the real America and must be destroyed.

Prosource ,

Babylon will fall..

Count on it..

Just hope we can survive the tumor removal.

Yippie21 ,

And to sell the Russia-crap, the Obama administration purposely kicked diplomats out of the country and laid on sanctions in December. I'm curious enough to wonder how much of the White-helmet gas attacks in Syria ( that Trump reacted to ) were indirectly done to further the anti-Russia narrative by Obama folks.... After all, the whole Syria mess has his fingerprints all over it.

surf@jm ,

Big wow......

Clear and convincing evidence of a crime, obviously isn't a crime in Washington D.C., unless, of course, you are a conservative.....

fulliautomatix ,

little wow - Strzok deliberately documented the crimes on his and Page's phones.

thetruthhurts ,

It is unclear at this point to whom Strzok was referring when he used the term "sisters."

_______________________________

CIA, NSA etc.

attah-boy-Luther ,

16 more 'sisters eh?

yipper....pedos love like a set of arkansas cousins as well...lol.

PrivetHedge ,

I see what they are afraid of now.

The 'russiagate' stuff is now starting to reveal the very structure and organisation of the Deep State: once only suspected by the sheep, now it's coming into plain sight for all to see to the horror of all the pharisee jew vampires who are now seeing the first signs of dawn.

valerie24 ,

God, I hope you're right.

insanelysane ,

Still want to see the communication between the lovers at the time Seth Rich was murdered.

the artist ,

" Sisters " is code for " News Outlets "

BankSurfyMan ,

Looking like a gimp for MSM, 'More than anyone, Special Agent Strzok wants to testify publicly and attempt to have the unfiltered truth be heard,' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5926345/FBI-agent-removed-Mueller-team-set-testify-publicly.html next HEDGE!

Wahooo ,

So...under the ruse of consolidating agencies under Homeland Security to effectively coordinate against terrorism, they now are organized to effectively coordinate a battle against anyone of their choosing.

i think we've been had.

consider me gone ,

It was only a matter of time. Thing is, is that it took almost no time at all. Go figure. So much for that Constitution thingy. What did Franklin say again, when he left the Constitution Convention?

Chupacabra-322 ,

The Deep State collects blackmail data on all Democratic & Republican members that are in positions of power. That is how they are able to keep secrets and control politicians.

The entire Surveillance Infrastructure Is & was being used for one thing. .. To build blackmail 'Control Files' on thousands if not millions of Americans. ... An Extortion Tool. .. NOTHING legal about it.

The Awan Case is the biggest Criminal, Treasonous, Seditious Intelligence Political Espionage Operation of our lifetime.

And, the Awans were let off the Hook. That alone is telling of how far down the Tyrannical Lawless Espionage rabbit hole it is.

Idiocracy's Not Sure ,

FBI-DOJ-MSM Collusion Went Far Deeper Than Previously Known ..Never Underestimate The Power Of Stupid People In Large Groups.....NUTPOSPILG

let freedom ring ,

Trump is fucking nuts get over it!

Westcoastliberal ,

Go back to the Huffington Post. It's where idiots like you belong.

MsCreant ,

Nuts or not does not make this right.

You're putting too much "dumb" in your free-dumb.

valerie24 ,

The entire US population should be nuts over it and at the ready with their pitchforks. This shit has gone on way too long and thankfully Trump's election has exposed these deep state scumbags.

r0mulus ,

If you don't make an argument supported by facts, you lose by default. Loser.

Got The Wrong No ,

let freedom ring. That's funny coming from a 1 month Media Matters Commie.

Trump is nuts.....the new war cry of the failed Demrat losers. Everything from Russiagate to Stormy has failed. Let's try the 25 Amendment. You and your masters are a fucking joke.

debtserf ,

There's an orange nutter living rent-free in your head. Maybe you need to get over it son. He won. Nearly 2 years ago now. You really need to let it go.

Breathe....and relax.

Snout the First ,

Isn't there more than enough evidence disclosed already to have a dozen or two of them behind bars for life? What the fuck is Trump waiting for?

GaryLeeT ,

I think he's waiting so he can deliver an October surprise with a massive declassification.

Yippie21 ,

That and he may want to wait to get Kavanaugh seated on the court. Trump is a long-game thinker so, might at well get a judge first, and then start kicking ant hills.

navy62802 ,

It might take a while, but I think the full truth will eventually emerge. What has been done here is a betrayal of the United States by career bureaucrats. It appears to be a campaign of sedition.

Westcoastliberal ,

Coup de 'tat is what it is. Double whammy: Treason AND Sedition!

valerie24 ,

Agree, but will the real culprits be convicted? I'm talking about the dual citizens that have kept us in endless wars in the Middle East, some of whom have active roles in the White House.

No doubt Rosenstein, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Ohr, Strozk, Page, etc. Should be in jail. Hell, Sessions should probably be in jail just for failing to act.

What about the rest? The 9/11 conspirators - Silverstein, Bush, Cheney, the CIA and Mossad, the dancing fucking Israeli's?

What a shit show

debtserf ,

Hasn't it already emerged enough? You couldn't make this shit up. Even LeCarre would be hard pushed to concoct such a labyrinthine plot as this. And no doubt there's much much more, much deeper sub-plots, but you get the gist.

conraddobler ,

It's all just a show, even Q says constantly to "Enjoy the show"

I haven't liked this show for about 10 plus years and it wasn't that good before and on top of all that, the illusion to which I have awoken from about that time seems to have shattered any illusions that were concurrent to it.

In reality, our country was taken from us at least 100 years ago "if not much more, and if we ever really had one" and if anyone thinks that they will ever "give it back" then you are in fact suffering from a severe reality gap.

There are no "good guys" when they want to put the ring on to save us all they still unfortunately will have to put the damn ring on to do it.

No one is advocating what actually needs to be done, namely finding a band of hobbits to toss it into the fire from whence it came.

Just because some honorable people want to stop dishonorable people from doing dishonorable things does not mean when they are elevated to such positions of power that they won't turn themselves, they always do.

Until the MIC collapses we will forever be slaves to someone, doesn't matter who, bankers or the military, either way we will not be free.

Restoring the rule of law would mean public trials, not military tribunals, a fact which people aren't discussing at all.

The way they caught these people was the spying on everyone. The very power that most threatens our liberties will restore our liberties?

What are the odds of that?

I'm not blind, the world is a dangerous place, maybe liberty is just too tough or impossible to exercise in the modern world?

Clearly we were nearing a horrible fate and I am grateful for being saved form something worse even if it only flips us out of one pan to the next the other pan was intolerably hot.

What I most want to point out above all else is that human freedom is exceedingly fragile and tough to win, it should be guarded much more closely and absolute power will always corrupt so anything we do to navigate as a nation needs to adhere to the constitution as closely as possible.

I don't like being told there have to be secrets, I don't like military tribunals, I'm not saying that we don't need a military.

We need a military and we need it badly and we need to get out money's worth out of it.

I can only ask that instead of a show, give me the real damn thing, I want, along with millions upon millions of other Americans, REAL DAMN LIBERTY!

valerie24 ,

Excellent post!!

fulliautomatix ,

faded a bit toward the end, nice one.

Freedom is a property that can be taken from you? How do you come by this "freedom"?

RubberJohnny ,

Why are these people still on the OUTSIDE?

WHY!!!!!

Rubicon727 ,

"Why are these people still on the OUTSIDE?

WHY!!!!!"

Why? Because the greedy corporations, banks, and the entire financial system has corrupted every federal/regional and local institutions from the US Senate/The Military Complex all the way down to the local politician.

It only stands to reason the US would come to this. With millions of zombified American citizens, and the bought off media - they are all participants watching this nation DIE!

I Am Jack's Macroaggression ,

#RUSSIAHOAX

Hey, Stockman outlined this well over a year ago. It would be great to see an updated article:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-18/russiagate-witch-hunt-stockman-names-names-deep-states-insurance-policy

semperfi ,

enjoy the show

Winston Churchill ,

The Chalupa sisters.Called it a year ago.

Brennan used the Ukrainians to launder the dossier to Steele.

Oldwood ,

The "deep state" is anyone who attempts to direct our government in contradiction to the constitution or the will of the people as represented by democratic process. They have been shoving this notion of the sanctity of "democracy" while willingly subverting it in every case that its result contradict THEIR AGENDA. It knows no party or specific affiliation beyond its own self interests.

Trump, as the outsider, is forced to work in league with many of these people as "they" will not allow anything else. People openly opposed to them are destroyed by their media and courts, and as such, Trump's roster of potential team is severely limited. The ONLY means of putting people devoted to the destruction of deep state is through elections, as all others (and even then) will be run through the gauntlet.

We can Trash Trump all we please, but find me another, ANYONE who will stand in his place, someone who will gain enough support to win an election against otherwise insurmountable odds, and will then stand and face them and take their withering unending attacks. We hear the complaints of his tweets, when in consideration of what he faces hourly, seems tiny in response....while knowing he is attacked for that in full knowledge that doing anything more would bring about more investigation, legal action and the inevitable impeachment.

Trump is the impossible man, the one who is willing to do what no other will, and ALL constitutional, within the law. Accusations of tyranny when he has done nothing extraordinary other than to simply act within his constitutional powers to advance his stated agenda.

We can dislike what he does and how he does it but no rational person can suggest he is doing it illegally or immorally (beyond the standards that progressives have established themselves).

fulliautomatix ,

Hey Oldwood - I've enjoyed your posts for a while now.

I'd argue that the deep state is more usefully defined as that part of the governing body that exercises sovereign rights with regard to exemption to consequences at law. It is probably worth noting that these sovereign rights evolved from a claimed divine right as the divine was based in Rome (for the model of "the democratic west") and the claim was no longer useful. Where others are more than willing to employ murderous tactics such a recognised body is a pragmatic tool - but one to be used by the state as a whole. No consequences at law does not mean no consequences at all - and it does not mean that the people who have employed murderous tactics in order to benefit themselves are immune to reaction to their behaviours. Arguing that you are immune to consequences at law, at the same time as seeking the protection of the law, is no argument.

brushhog ,

Does anyone believe that these two were acting on their own? You think they masterminded the whole conspiracy? They were two low-level foot soldiers in a much deeper conspiracy...the real questions that need to be addressed is who were the generals? Whose orders were they operating under?

107cicero ,

Hillary's, Obama, Soros', Rice's, Brennans' and Comey's.

But I think that Crooked Hillary double crossed Comey in the last two weeks, reneging on a post presidential promise I would guess, and Comey 'restarted' the investigation which deep sixed her presidential hopes.

Thieves and whores fight among each other just as hard......

brushhog ,

Forgot Clapper.

FreedomWriter ,

That's why waterboarding is still legal and Trump is OK with it.

AsEasyAsPi ,

The only evidence of "Collusion" exists with Hillary, the DNC, Fusion GPS and the Obamite-Leftovers in the DOJ/FBI.

beenlauding ,

Stories about How Corrupt Us government is: 6million

Arrests: 0

[Sep 10, 2018] New Strzok-Page Texts Discuss FBI Media Leak Strategy Within Hours Of Washington Post Bombshell

The FBI and CIA were colluding to undermine a sitting US President with Brennan having the pivotal role and Strzok as his liaison at FBO
Sep 10, 2018 | www.zerohedge.com

by Tyler Durden Mon, 09/10/2018 - 18:07 522 SHARES

Newly released text messages between disgraced FBI agent Peter Strzok and former FBI attorney Lisa Page regarding a "media leak strategy" have come under intense scrutiny, as they were exchanged one day before and one day after a bombshell Washington Post article during a critical point in the Trump-Russia investigation, reports Sara Carter and the Daily Caller 's Chuck Ross.

Photo: Daily Caller

The text messages, revealed Monday by Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) and sent the day before and after two damaging articles about former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, raise " grave concerns regarding an apparent systematic culture of media leaking by high-ranking officials at the FBI and DOJ related to ongoing investigations."

Recall that Strzok's boss, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, was fired for authorizing self-serving leaks to the press.

Also recall that text messages released in January reveal that Lisa Page was on the phone with Washington Post reporter Devlin Barrett , then with the New York Times , when the reopening of the Clinton Foundation investigation hit the news cycle - just one example in a series of text messages matching up with MSM reports relying on leaked information, as reported by the Conservative Treehouse .

♦Page: 5:19pm "Still on the phone with Devlin . Mike's phone is ON FIRE."

♥Strzok: 5:29pm "You might wanna tell Devlin he should turn on CNN, there's news on."

♦Page: 5:30pm "He knows. He just got handed a note."

♥Strzok: 5:33pm "Ha. He asking about it now?"

♦Page: 5:34pm "Yeah. It was pretty funny. Coming now."

At 5:36pm Devlin Barrett tweets:

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The newly released Strzok-Page texts reveal more of the same :

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The review of the documents suggests that the FBI and DOJ coordinated efforts to get information to the press that would potentially be "harmful to President Trump's administration." Those leaks pertained to information regarding the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court warrant used to spy on short-term campaign volunteer Carter Page.

The letter lists several examples:

Meadows says that the texts show " a coordinated effort on the part of the FBI and DOJ to release information in the public domain potentially harmful to President Donald Trump's administration. "

https://www.scribd.com/embeds/388284032/content?start_page=1&view_mode=scroll&access_key=key-yaXSN0Cii2Dl2ypC8oai&show_recommendations=true

We're sure Rosenstein will get right on it...


janus ,

lisa page...why do i get the sense she was strzork's agency handler and not his fbi lover? is it because his mannerisms scream homo, or is it because he speaks to her as a subordinate to a superior? those texts were far more focused on the dissemination and control of information than they were about arranging trysts. strange. and speaking of homos, did you guys catch the conversation about kasich? seems he's been in the closet for a long time. seems his long-time advisor/'roommate' is more than just that.

another lisa that should pique your interest is Lisa Barsoomian. who is lisa barsoomian? who is she married to? what is her connection with lynch, holder, strzok, ohr, steele, obama, priestap, comey, etc?

anyone else think a FISA declass docu-drop perfectly apropos for the 9/11 anniversary?

i sure do.

janus

jeff montanye ,

i never get tired of realizing peter strzok, regarded as absolutely the top of the line in counterintelligence, thought ("I had literally just gone to find this phone to tell you . . .") he could avoid the nsa by his choice of phone. priceless.

insanelysane ,

Look the un-bias IG reviewed the FBI's action and found no bias. How can that happen? Who does a review to see if the IG is biased? Who does a review to see if the person that finds that the IG has no bias has bias?? Who does a review....

Someday Sessions and Rosenstein may get sacked or the people responsible for the sacking will get sacked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1noqNkJEUA

Keyser ,

If the Dims take back Congress in the mid-terms, none of these revelations will matter one iota as the Dims will bury these investigations and start their own into everything Trump... Time for Trump to drop the hammer on all of these people, BEFORE the mid-terms...

novictim ,

And what is the reason for the people REALLY in charge going after Trump? It has always been about his Anti-Neoliberal agenda.

Specifically, TARIFFS on CHINA. The oligarchs behind the establishment have made fantastic amounts of money off the strip-mining of American industry and Capital. They want the cheap labour of Asia and the 3rd world yet also want to sell the sh#t back to the USA even though that trade imbalance will lead to ruin.

If not for President Trump, there would be no hope for the American people.

ipud ,

April 12, 2017: Peter Strzok congratulates Lisa Page on a (hatchet) job well done...

VladLenin ,

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/the-fbi-launches-a-combating-foreign-influence-webpage

Who's the threat again?

Noktirnal ,

From FBI's "Protected Voices" website, on "Safer Campaign Communications"-

"To secure communications channels -- such as email, messaging apps, and social media -- use encryption, disable archiving , use access controls, disable remote wiping, use account lockout, and patch your systems."

If campaigns should disable archiving, would they not be in violation of federal e-mail retention laws?

rosiescenario ,

It is interesting that all of the "reporters" at the MSM do not care that the entire (excluding FOX) news organization is behaving exactly as Tass and Pravda used to behave under communist Russia. These folks are too dense to see the irony that a read of RT today is more factual than anything coming out of the U.S. media.

I guess when you are a liberal Dem you do not have anything honest and factual to discuss....you resort to calling Benghazi "a wild conspiracy".

migra ,

They aren't too dense. They know exactly whats going on and they are happy with it as long as it helps there cause.

Stan522 ,

So, what the fuck was the Inspector General looking at and reviewing when he declared there was no bias.....?

migra ,

Because IG Horowitz is one of, "them".

Anunnaki ,

Horowitz. Nuff said

enough of this ,

It was a deep-state whitewash just like his next report is going to be.

http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/comey-and-horowitz-birds-of-a-feather/

I am Groot ,

You mean "Inspector Clouseau"......

max2205 ,

Gitmo

Sanity Bear ,

By the way this new commenting system and specifically the lack of ability to follow up on a conversation since there are no links to a user's history of comments really sucks.

sgorem ,

i agree.........

ThinkerNotEmoter ,

Yep.

I blame Trump.

Indelible Scars ,

It is waaaay better.

SmallerGovNow2 ,

agree with you. it is the way it used to be when you could really have a common thread and people were not jumping the thread just to get their comments at the top...

Nunny ,

It was so tiresome to respond to a thread and have to wade through 3 pages+ to see if someone responded. I like this much better.

Sanity Bear ,

True, glad to see the comment-jumping thing gone.

However, now you have to remember which articles you posted on and hunt for them yourself in order to check for followup, which is worse user-wise than having to click through a bunch of pages to see how far down your comment got pushed.

pops ,

Yes. It sucks big time.

Sanity Bear ,

Hanging offense treason, and there is not even the slightest ambiguity that that is what this is.

Empire's Frontiers ,

Why does it seem obvious that the sitting administration used all its levers to aid Hillary in her election, and further, destroy Trump in his victory?

Ink Pusher ,

That'll be 6 orders of SEDITION with a side order of COLLUSION for each and a Diet TREASON for everyone to drink please.

Long Live The Donald ,

Trump is fucking nuts! Get Over it!

cheech_wizard ,

So you're still sodomizing your children?

Yen Cross ,

Yen is older, and looks 1o years younger than than that pile of shit!

Guilt has away of destroying people

Yen Cross ,

Faggot libtard snowflake?

American Snipper ,

This cocksucker Rosenberg needs to be fired, as is everyone on Trumps short list of leakers. Drain the fucking swamp! Redact all Russian docs, speed it up, Mr. President!!!

I am Groot ,

When you say "fired" , I'm thinking he should be strapped to missile and fired into the sun, Wiley coyote style.....

Yen Cross ,

Pro facto**** Never ever once, ever has Yen cheated on a Woman.

Many opportunities, but yen used the bigger head.

Yen will never cheat on the Woman he's dedicated to.

Cursive ,

Lisa should really stick with the straight hair. Much better than that headshot with the cheesy perm that was first circulated. Her credentials as a nasty Deep State dick gobbler aside, She rises from a 2 to a 5 (on a scale of 10).

Htos1 ,

3, with a bag. If she's not fat.

bookofenoch ,

Nope. Lisa Page is a filthy whore. Imagine sharing her front and back holes with Strzok. Or Kissing her Strzok jizz drinking hole.

Repulsive. Forever disgraced. The woman is dogshit.

I am Groot ,

It's really hard to rate animals on a scale of 1 to 10. Tough choice between her and a goat.

rbianco3 ,

Released in January- this is September WTF?

This is seriously important information - could have exonerated the President almost a year ago - and had he been impeached would have no recourse. Those that did not release until now are co-conspirators.

justyouwait ,

They are co-conspirators and more. They were placed to do the job they are doing. Rotten Rodney is the head of the snake in the DOJ. He was positioned to slow down or if possible totally hold back key information from congress (his boss). Old man Sessions was co-opted right from the start. He looks & acts like a guy taking orders. I don't know what they have on him (use your imagination) but he was neutered right from day 1. He should be charged with dereliction of duty and fired. I think if a true investigation is ever done and all the facts come out, Rotten Rodney could very well be charged with treason along with a large number of other Deep State operatives and more than a few in the Democratic Party.

Htos1 ,

Depends on what was in all those bankers boxes of FBI files trucked over to the WH from Reno and Holder in the 90's.

Chupacabra-322 ,

♦Page: 5:19pm "Still on the phone with Devlin . Mike's phone is ON FIRE."

♥Strzok: 5:29pm "You might wanna tell Devlin he should turn on CNN, there's news on."

♦Page: 5:30pm "He knows. He just got handed a note."

♥Strzok: 5:33pm "Ha. He asking about it now?"

♦Page: 5:34pm "Yeah. It was pretty funny. Coming now."

At 5:36pm Devlin Barrett tweets:

These Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths & Sociopaths get off on Gas Lighting the Public through their own manufactured, Scripted False Narratives & Psychological Operations.

Sick, twisted, Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths deserve to be hung with Piano wire. Them, Breanan, Clapper, Lynch, Rice, Obama & last but not least the ring leader Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopath at Large, Hillary Clinton.

stubb ,

CRUSH HIS SKULL NOW

1970SSNova396 ,

The CrossRoads have been reached.........Saddle up

Can't wait for the release of all the MSM person that were paid via GPS to spin this shit!

Yen Cross ,

That little prick, needs to be knocked down, an notch?

His cum guzzling adultress pretty much sums things up?

Calvertsbio ,

What we need is a 100% republican DOJ, FBI, CIA, politicians... wipe out the democrats for a better society... That should work, then we won't need Zerohedge to spread all this propaganda !

Robert of Ottawa ,

The repubs and dementocrats are on the same team, the uniparty swamp where all congressman and senators get equal bribes if they wish

1970SSNova396 ,

They're all whores for a buck.How else can you make less than 200k per year yet retire with millions ...just in the House.

Calvertsbio ,

Yes, we are doomed, for sure it is every FAMILY for themselves... Glad I only have one kid to work thru this mess, I can keep an eye on her...

My sister, brother, father all are week too week people.. They never listened, prepared, etc... Just glad Pops has the SS and post office pension... Otherwise, would be living here... Also kind of glad they are 1200 miles away... Too bad they ignored all the signs... They will be begging in a few years.. Beans and RICE

Htos1 ,

90% of the repugs are ON the team! Otherwise billary would be a warm memory and no 9/11.

sniffybigtoe ,

Never fear! The GOP is ready and willing to do fuck all about it.

r0mulus ,

Yep- can't have a fake two party system without a fake second party to collude with...

candyman ,

After 3 hrs... ABC,CBS,NBC, CNN - nothing on the web pages.

thetruthhurts ,

November can't come fast enough for Democrats and the Corporatist deep state.

enough of this ,

It was a deep-state whitewash just like his next report is going to be.

http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/comey-and-horowitz-birds-of-a-feather/

rbianco3 ,

Released in January- this is September WTF?

This is seriously important information - could have exonerated the President almost a year ago - and had he been impeached would have no recourse. Those that did not release until now are co-conspirators.

justyouwait ,

They are co-conspirators and more. They were placed to do the job they are doing. Rotten Rodney is the head of the snake in the DOJ. He was positioned to slow down or if possible totally hold back key information from congress (his boss). Old man Sessions was co-opted right from the start. He looks & acts like a guy taking orders. I don't know what they have on him (use your imagination) but he was neutered right from day 1. He should be charged with dereliction of duty and fired. I think if a true investigation is ever done and all the facts come out, Rotten Rodney could very well be charged with treason along with a large number of other Deep State operatives and more than a few in the Democratic Party.

Htos1 ,

Depends on what was in all those bankers boxes of FBI files trucked over to the WH from Reno and Holder in the 90's.

Chupacabra-322 ,

♦Page: 5:19pm "Still on the phone with Devlin . Mike's phone is ON FIRE."

♥Strzok: 5:29pm "You might wanna tell Devlin he should turn on CNN, there's news on."

♦Page: 5:30pm "He knows. He just got handed a note."

♥Strzok: 5:33pm "Ha. He asking about it now?"

♦Page: 5:34pm "Yeah. It was pretty funny. Coming now."

At 5:36pm Devlin Barrett tweets:

These Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths & Sociopaths get off on Gas Lighting the Public through their own manufactured, Scripted False Narratives & Psychological Operations.

Sick, twisted, Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths deserve to be hung with Piano wire. Them, Breanan, Clapper, Lynch, Rice, Obama & last but not least the ring leader Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopath at Large, Hillary Clinton.

Dre4dwolf ,

Fbi leaks fake story to media -> Media reports fake story-> Fbi uses fake story as evidence in Visa Court - > Fisa court grants a Fisa warrant that would of otherwise been denied -> rinse repeat till all your political enemies are crippled by fake investigations

??? profit???

Fufi007 ,

Deep State and Shadow Government Clowns.

They all burning in Hell. Let's give them goodbye.

In due course of time, they will be sucked out of here and taken far into Space into a gross Planet where the Monkeys are seeing that Black Stone next to their pot hole and going like crazy for the marvel just discovered.

The more shit you intake the heavier and difficult lift to better zones.

Miserables. Hasta la Vista Fools. They took it deep and swallowed the whole Enchilada !!!!

OccamsCrazor ,

these fbi and doj f*ckers will roast in hell.

WAY worse than Watergate.

MuffDiver69 ,

That Strzok is one fudge packer. Having an affair my ass...not with any women.

devnickle ,

Shall be hung by the neck until deceased. That is the penalty for Treason. Hillary, Bill, Obama, Lynch, Jarrett, Podesta's, Holder, Awans, Whatshername Shitz, et al. The list is endless. McStain is dead, he bailed before the purge.

devnickle ,

Saddam was powder puff compared to these assholes. If it was good enough for him.....

arby63 ,

If they worked for me, they would be facing a grand jury now.

janus ,

lisa page...why do i get the sense she was strzork's agency handler and not his fbi lover? is it because his mannerisms scream homo, or is it because he speaks to her as a subordinate to a superior? those texts were far more focused on the dissemination and control of information than they were about arranging trysts. strange. and speaking of homos, did you guys catch the conversation about kasich? seems he's been in the closet for a long time. seems his long-time advisor/'roommate' is more than just that.

another lisa that should pique your interest is Lisa Barsoomian. who is lisa barsoomian? who is she married to? what is her connection with lynch, holder, strzok, ohr, steele, obama, priestap, comey, etc?

anyone else think a FISA declass docu-drop perfectly apropos for the 9/11 anniversary?

i sure do.

janus

Normal ,

Hey, that's worse than rootin tootin putin. Putin didn't do it. The FBI did it.

flyonmywall ,

Whaaat? The FBI and CIA colluding to undermine a sitting US President?

Oh come on, that's just silly !!

GotEmAll ,

Yes these people are leaking, and they will leak again, again and again etc. Until these Leakers get shown the inside of a Jail cell, tell me why would they be afraid to leak?

Look at strzok, what did he get lose his job (by the way some leftist will hire him somehwere) and what else......nothing; heck it didn't even cost him anything really considering all the donations he got from his go fund me.

You want the leaks to stop, its time for Sessions, to start laying the hammer down on these candyasses.

wafm ,

besides having a totally unfuckinpronouncable name, Zok is obviously a complete incompetent. Hang the cunt.

DJ the Tax Man ,

Whether they know it or not the FBI and DOJ have a very limited life cycle left in the workings of our country. The American people will take over soon and the justice will be delivered swift and viciously.

DOJ and FBI you have a choice step-up and do your job or just step aside.

For the sake of the saving of America every one of the Deomocrats better end up behind bars for the rest of their life including Mueller

Tunga ,

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Tunga ,

"A meme is a cognitive or behavioral pattern that can be transmitted from one individual to another one. Since the individual who transmitted the meme will continue to carry it, the transmission can be interpreted as a replication : a copy of the meme is made in the memory of another individual, making him or her into a carrier of the meme. This process of self-reproduction (the memetic life-cycle ), leading to spreading over a growing group of individuals, defines the meme as a replicator, similar in that respect to the gene (Dawkins, 1976; Moritz, 1991.

No known source but still a favorite Tunga talking point: NOT!

Karl Marxist ,

But Hurrican Florence, everybody! Trump's gonna release those documents ... but ... Hurricane Florence! Israel's gonna commit that Idlib false flag, hurl banned white phosphorus weapons at US funded "terrorists" who are Syrian Christians but Hurricane Florence! Everything's gonna get crunched. Just what the media is waiting for. 24/7 on Hurricane Florence!

Tunga ,

Stop making sense!!!

jeff montanye ,

i never get tired of realizing peter strzok, regarded as absolutely the top of the line in counterintelligence, thought ("I had literally just gone to find this phone to tell you . . .") he could avoid the nsa by his choice of phone. priceless.

deus ex machina ,

YEP.

pelican ,

Stan Beeman level of skill.

Makes one wonder if all the FBI is this sloppy.

FBaggins ,

Hey look at this. More than 28 ZH articles on domestic and financial issues and finally one from earlier today something on Syria.

Now let me see. The elite and imperious commissars of the US high command in their caution to protect vital US propaganda interests and save the people from the truth, have banned all coverage of the Syrian conflict on Youtube - out of fear that their next planned false-flag attack will blow up in their faces - which means that they have likely also "cautioned" with severe sanctions any alternate media site directors in the same way.

Ms No ,

For all we know we could become rice crispies within 24 hours. Its not immanent but not at all out of the question. I think people are desensitized to this already.

People should be on the edge of their seats, if not shitting their pants. Russian media is pretty quiet too. Al Jazeera is now an atrocity similar to Hufpo (since the mad prince hung everybody upside down and surrounded Qatar and nabbing Jazeera).

Its eerie when this happens. People seem to be desensitized to the idea of conflict with Russia already.

I am Groot ,

Forget the rope and the bullets. It's time to take a fucking axe to all of these Deep State scumbag traitors.

insanelysane ,

Look the un-bias IG reviewed the FBI's action and found no bias. How can that happen? Who does a review to see if the IG is biased? Who does a review to see if the person that finds that the IG has no bias has bias?? Who does a review....

Someday Sessions and Rosenstein may get sacked or the people responsible for the sacking will get sacked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1noqNkJEUA

consider me gone ,

Enough already gaaddammit! You swamp creatures need to fess up that you've tried to unseat Trump from Day 1. End this bogus "investigation" that y'all know, and have known, is nothing short of treason. Everyone caught in your snares should be released regardless of guilt or innocence. Everyone involved in your conspiracy should get mandatory 25 years with no parole. Yeah, that means you too Brennan!

truthseeker47 ,

Disagree: Commie traitor Brennan should be in front of a firing squad.

consider me gone ,

I'd be okay with that too. But swinging from a noose having vacated his bowels on national TV would be more degrading.

Tunga ,

Big love rules.

;)

Tunga ,

Maybe you should stick to T€#++€r?

Jk.

Tunga ,

"These people, are not people." - Bill Clinton to AG Lynch on the Tarmack.

navy62802 ,

Conspiracy. Not "collusion."

navy62802 ,

I will never forget that freak Strozk testifying before Congress. I get chills just thinking about it.

CheapBastard ,

"Matter" NOT an investigation.

~ Low Renta Lynch

Yog Soggoth ,

https://www.jpost.com//Middle-East/Irans-attack-on-Kurds-is-a-message-​to-Washington-Riyadh-and-Jerusalem-566895 Hopefully no comment necessary.

LaugherNYC ,

Yeah, there's a comment. Vlad in Syria building up forces to allow Iran to install missile sites to protect Nordstream 2 and Assad regime while threatening Israel. Do Israel and its allies stand by and let this happen or do they tell Vlad the game is on, and if it's war he must have, then war he will have,

So this Moscow Messiah has become the enabler of the wonderful mullahs of Iran and the humanist Assad of Syria. These are the quality of scum with which the Tsar of Russia has chosen to align. All you proud Russians stand and sing an anthem to the butcher of Damascus and the most repressive and dangerous force in the Middle East, the Murderous Mullahs of a Muzzled Iran. What an Axis of Pigs. For alleged muslims, they snortle like pork around in the shite and mud with Vlad an awful lot.

Putin drives the Middle East and the world toward Armageddon because his intellectual and moral poverty can devise no strategy for the spread of Russian power except at the tip of missiles.Maybe he wants to accelerate the war before it becomes nuclear, so he cannot push Israel to the edge of extinction.

Perhaps he will ride in as the Great Reconciliator once he has allowed Iran's expansion throughout Syria. The Jews will either concede, or they will treat us to a true test of the Russian super AAs. It may be a really good show, or it could be time for Amazon and Apple to relocate to a zip code 100 feet below Wellington, new Zealand.

MrAToZ ,

Why is there no perp walk? There is a conga line of law breakers and not a single arrest. Either there is something going on that we are not allowed to know or this is going to drag on till it fades away. This is the longest quietest investigation into largest crime and scandal in U.S. history and all that is on display is arrogance. Hang someone in the town square.

dubsea ,

Were two years in. ..and you wonder..does our democracy run a machine...out of control government...or does the machine run democracy... goddam we voted ...let him do his job....

navy62802 ,

The machine runs the "democracy." If you have not realized that yet, you are willfully blind.

Keyser ,

If the Dims take back Congress in the mid-terms, none of these revelations will matter one iota as the Dims will bury these investigations and start their own into everything Trump... Time for Trump to drop the hammer on all of these people, BEFORE the mid-terms...

Oldwood ,

Not only that, but our hot air economy will pop like a cheap Chinese balloon.

The only thing keeping it going is public and business confidence that they might have a chance. That chance will dissipate like a baby fart if Trump faced a Democrat majority.

It should make many here yearning for their dream "reset" wet with anticipation.....the ultimate in ignorance.....getting exactly what they hope for.

LaugherNYC ,

Every single shred of evidence points to a powerful conspiracy between the DOJ, FBI, HRC and Democrat machine to smear Trump with the cooperation of all those Russians supposedly totally riding the Trump train. Yeah, that's how I help get an American et elected, create a whole smear story that he's a Russian puppet.

If they're not gong to prosecute these lying scum, there needs to be a for real investigarion

devnickle ,

And the shooting will commence.

BankSurfyMan ,

Dry humping Lisa with a bit of Hedge off the wall, Thanks Peter... Fucktard Man of the year 2018 and beyond! SEXY!

MozartIII ,

Can we just shoot all of them already? The Clintons as well??

goldenbuddha454 ,

dumb and dumbererer

WarAndPeace ,

If these two get off without being sentenced for criminals, Americans are gonna actually start a revolution with guns.

commiebastid ,

you can bet it won't be covered in the 'news'

devnickle ,

Enough is enough.

Old Poor Richard ,

Democratic operative codename "Keebler Elf" is furiously scrambling to bury and distract. Maybe call friends in the White Helmets: "Now would be a great time for that fake gas attack!"

The Terrible Sweal ,

Stzork should go up the river for a very long time.

CheapBastard ,

That'll be hard to do when he's disenboweled.

I am Groot ,

When he's cremated, I mean buried at the stake, they can send his remains to Gitmo.

claytonmoore50 ,

I hope they have had to surrender their passports.

They are so done...

oDumbo ,

You can just "smell" the Starbucks shitcan on these pukes. Hang them at noon.

mpcascio ,

They should be indicted immediately.

ardent ,

REAL bombshell:

WARNING: Graphic Images

Moloch ,

Imagine clicking on a short url in a comment section in the current year .

Fedtacular ,

#CancelAllAgencies FBI CIA DOJ ATF DHS TSA EPA DOE FAA FDA. fuck it. They are all filled with Union loving liberal pensioners. Cutting the heads off won't kill the deep state.

captain whitewater ,

Hang all of these criminals from lamp posts along the capital streets.

GoingBig ,

Here on Conspiracy Hedge.... The news nobody else is reporting because its conjecture.

Nunny ,

Have another drink and stumble to bed Hillary.

wisefool ,

they stink. we dont. The church will always find the high ground.

It is a metitroucious society if you take the long view.

ZIRPdiggler ,

Would you do Lisa Page? I would. She's not super hot but she kinda looks like she would be fun in bed

booboo ,

If she had as many dicks sticking out of her that were stuck in her she would look like a porcupine.

Scuba Steve ,

too gummy when she smiles ...

I am Groot ,

She must have a good vet to get her teeth that clean.

Anunnaki ,

She has DSL

novictim ,

And what is the reason for the people REALLY in charge going after Trump? It has always been about his Anti-Neoliberal agenda.

Specifically, TARIFFS on CHINA. The oligarchs behind the establishment have made fantastic amounts of money off the strip-mining of American industry and Capital. They want the cheap labour of Asia and the 3rd world yet also want to sell the sh#t back to the USA even though that trade imbalance will lead to ruin.

If not for President Trump, there would be no hope for the American people.

Anunnaki ,

No one goes to jail

Won Hung Lo ,

T minus ZERO. Here it comes......

pine_marten ,

Strzok's member seemed alive with a dark malfeasance that sent her deep into an underworld where her orgasms were tectonic.

ipud ,

April 12, 2017: Peter Strzok congratulates Lisa Page on a (hatchet) job well done...

Thethingreenline ,

Page looks kinda hot in that pic

WTFUD ,

Hot's OTT however, she looks like she's handled a cockatoo.

Thethingreenline ,

Kinda........hot

I am Groot ,

I'm sure Eva Braun said Hitler "looked kinda hot" too.......

VladLenin ,

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/the-fbi-launches-a-combating-foreign-influence-webpage

Who's the threat again?

Noktirnal ,

From FBI's "Protected Voices" website, on "Safer Campaign Communications"-

"To secure communications channels -- such as email, messaging apps, and social media -- use encryption, disable archiving , use access controls, disable remote wiping, use account lockout, and patch your systems."

If campaigns should disable archiving, would they not be in violation of federal e-mail retention laws?

paul20854 ,

This guy needs incarceration.

I am Groot ,

You meant to say "incineration". There, fixed that for ya......

CatInTheHat ,

They are ALL in on it. This whole fucking shit show slow walked in a bunch of Kabuki for the plebes

Trump, as the most powerful man in the world could have fired Sessions ages ago and had every single document DECLASSIFIED to where this shitshow would have ended long ago and cankles, Obama Rice Holder, Powers, Lynch et.al , would be doing a perp walk

And where are the investigations into true Russian collusion with Cankles having sold our yellow cake to them for a few bucks donation to the Clinton money washing machine foundation? And her emails, many of which have been discovered and we're highly claddified sent on that bitch's blackberry & on and on it goes

They are ALL IN ON IT. INCLUDING TRUMP. And none of this shit is going to end until the American people overthrow their government

Chupacabra-322 ,

It's absolute, complete, open, in our Faces Tyrannical Lawlessness .

Shue ,

And there's fuck all any of you can do anything about it.

Chipped ham ,

Some Donkeys gonna get kicked.

Better happen real soon. I can't take it. Just when I can't scream anymore about why someone's not in jail, out comes another nugget like this.

Drip. Drip. Drip. I can't take it anymore. When will the dam break?

Htos1 ,

We need a couple of dam busters to come rolling in........Q and Trump come to mind.

Heroic Couplet ,

What laws should Republicans be able to break? How does Trump have seven-to-ten indicted campaign and transition staff? Where was Trey Gowdy, the Faux News attorneys, the RNC attorneys, Rudy Giuliani, Mitch McConnell, Mark Meadows, the Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adelson, and Rupert Murdoch when Trump was vetting ha-ha and appointing his team? Faux News has succeeded in dumbing down Republicans to the point their long term memory is whatever Hillary did last.

Fishthatlived ,

"seven-to-ten"......what a maroon.

ChiangMaiXPat ,

Run away troll...the sedition is mind numbing. What your failing to grasp on purpose I might add is the entire investigation against Trump is specious "tainted fruit" illegal, it is a Coup in any iteration. Monastic cognitive dissonance only gets you so far....

Tzanchan ,

Gowdy spent lord knows how many hours/years looking to string up HRC...The select committee itself was created by House Republicans in May 2014. The committee issued its final report on the Benghazi attack a little more than two years later in June 2016 and was officially shut down in December 2016. The select panel spent $7 million during the course of the probe.
The committee ultimately issued an 800-page report, which faulted the Obama administration on a number of fronts, and lawmakers questioned Clinton for 11 hours in an October 2015 hearing. Zero indictments and a piss away of taxpayer money. Yes 4 noble and patriotic Americans were killed and the administration bumbled the reasons, but crimes committed, well, none. Talk about double standards.

Nunny ,

Yes indeedy....who shut down the Bengazi investigation?

xcct ,

Build the fucking gallows! Time for bullshit talk is over. Arrest, try and execute all these fuckers.

Htos1 ,

We need a "neutral" 3rd party as the DOJ is corrupt, and the house has no bollocks. Say, oh, the military? AND their gallows.

goldenbuddha454 ,

All these Washington elites run in the same circles. Term limits on all of Congress. On all civil servants too. Noone who has worked in gov. can be a lobbyist. Its so incestuous. The door revolves continuously in favor of the connected.

bookofenoch ,

Page and Strozk are disgusting. Hideous.

They will die screaming, and nobody will mourn them.

Fedtacular ,

They will be sent off McCain style.

Ban KKiller ,

George Webb covers this pretty well...and more. How come he can keep naming names and live? Or not be sued for libel? Anyhoo...his show is pretty amazing.

Shill me.

JimZin ,

my Popcorn with extra butter is hot and ready to go...let the mid-term shit show begin! hanging is way to nice for these deepstate fuckturds. yes a noose is right, but they should be dragged behind a Ford truck on a gravel road by a couple of Deplorables that smell like Walmart

Htos1 ,

I remember that Texas based campaign commercial from 1996!

"If you vote Republican, another brother is dragged behind a pickup truck"!

Only then it actually worked on the low infos.

Indelible Scars ,

The Honorable Rod RosenSTEIN? Alrighty then....

rosiescenario ,

It is interesting that all of the "reporters" at the MSM do not care that the entire (excluding FOX) news organization is behaving exactly as Tass and Pravda used to behave under communist Russia. These folks are too dense to see the irony that a read of RT today is more factual than anything coming out of the U.S. media.

I guess when you are a liberal Dem you do not have anything honest and factual to discuss....you resort to calling Benghazi "a wild conspiracy".

migra ,

They aren't too dense. They know exactly whats going on and they are happy with it as long as it helps there cause.

Stan522 ,

So, what the fuck was the Inspector General looking at and reviewing when he declared there was no bias.....?

migra ,

Because IG Horowitz is one of, "them".

Anunnaki ,

Horowitz. Nuff said

enough of this ,

It was a deep-state whitewash just like his next report is going to be.

http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/comey-and-horowitz-birds-of-a-feather/

I am Groot ,

You mean "Inspector Clouseau"......

max2205 ,

Gitmo

Sanity Bear ,

By the way this new commenting system and specifically the lack of ability to follow up on a conversation since there are no links to a user's history of comments really sucks.

sgorem ,

i agree.........

ThinkerNotEmoter ,

Yep.

I blame Trump.

Indelible Scars ,

It is waaaay better.

SmallerGovNow2 ,

agree with you. it is the way it used to be when you could really have a common thread and people were not jumping the thread just to get their comments at the top...

Nunny ,

It was so tiresome to respond to a thread and have to wade through 3 pages+ to see if someone responded. I like this much better.

Sanity Bear ,

True, glad to see the comment-jumping thing gone.

However, now you have to remember which articles you posted on and hunt for them yourself in order to check for followup, which is worse user-wise than having to click through a bunch of pages to see how far down your comment got pushed.

pops ,

Yes. It sucks big time.

Sanity Bear ,

Hanging offense treason, and there is not even the slightest ambiguity that that is what this is.

Empire's Frontiers ,

Why does it seem obvious that the sitting administration used all its levers to aid Hillary in her election, and further, destroy Trump in his victory?

Ink Pusher ,

That'll be 6 orders of SEDITION with a side order of COLLUSION for each and a Diet TREASON for everyone to drink please.

Long Live The Donald ,

Trump is fucking nuts! Get Over it!

cheech_wizard ,

So you're still sodomizing your children?

Yen Cross ,

Yen is older, and looks 1o years younger than than that pile of shit!

Guilt has away of destroying people

Yen Cross ,

Faggot libtard snowflake?

American Snipper ,

This cocksucker Rosenberg needs to be fired, as is everyone on Trumps short list of leakers. Drain the fucking swamp! Redact all Russian docs, speed it up, Mr. President!!!

I am Groot ,

When you say "fired" , I'm thinking he should be strapped to missile and fired into the sun, Wiley coyote style.....

Yen Cross ,

Pro facto**** Never ever once, ever has Yen cheated on a Woman.

Many opportunities, but yen used the bigger head.

Yen will never cheat on the Woman he's dedicated to.

Cursive ,

Lisa should really stick with the straight hair. Much better than that headshot with the cheesy perm that was first circulated. Her credentials as a nasty Deep State dick gobbler aside, She rises from a 2 to a 5 (on a scale of 10).

Htos1 ,

3, with a bag. If she's not fat.

bookofenoch ,

Nope. Lisa Page is a filthy whore. Imagine sharing her front and back holes with Strzok. Or Kissing her Strzok jizz drinking hole.

Repulsive. Forever disgraced. The woman is dogshit.

I am Groot ,

It's really hard to rate animals on a scale of 1 to 10. Tough choice between her and a goat.

rbianco3 ,

Released in January- this is September WTF?

This is seriously important information - could have exonerated the President almost a year ago - and had he been impeached would have no recourse. Those that did not release until now are co-conspirators.

justyouwait ,

They are co-conspirators and more. They were placed to do the job they are doing. Rotten Rodney is the head of the snake in the DOJ. He was positioned to slow down or if possible totally hold back key information from congress (his boss). Old man Sessions was co-opted right from the start. He looks & acts like a guy taking orders. I don't know what they have on him (use your imagination) but he was neutered right from day 1. He should be charged with dereliction of duty and fired. I think if a true investigation is ever done and all the facts come out, Rotten Rodney could very well be charged with treason along with a large number of other Deep State operatives and more than a few in the Democratic Party.

Htos1 ,

Depends on what was in all those bankers boxes of FBI files trucked over to the WH from Reno and Holder in the 90's.

Chupacabra-322 ,

♦Page: 5:19pm "Still on the phone with Devlin . Mike's phone is ON FIRE."

♥Strzok: 5:29pm "You might wanna tell Devlin he should turn on CNN, there's news on."

♦Page: 5:30pm "He knows. He just got handed a note."

♥Strzok: 5:33pm "Ha. He asking about it now?"

♦Page: 5:34pm "Yeah. It was pretty funny. Coming now."

At 5:36pm Devlin Barrett tweets:

These Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths & Sociopaths get off on Gas Lighting the Public through their own manufactured, Scripted False Narratives & Psychological Operations.

Sick, twisted, Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths deserve to be hung with Piano wire. Them, Breanan, Clapper, Lynch, Rice, Obama & last but not least the ring leader Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopath at Large, Hillary Clinton.

stubb ,

CRUSH HIS SKULL NOW

1970SSNova396 ,

The CrossRoads have been reached.........Saddle up

Can't wait for the release of all the MSM person that were paid via GPS to spin this shit!

Yen Cross ,

That little prick, needs to be knocked down, an notch?

His cum guzzling adultress pretty much sums things up?

Calvertsbio ,

What we need is a 100% republican DOJ, FBI, CIA, politicians... wipe out the democrats for a better society... That should work, then we won't need Zerohedge to spread all this propaganda !

Robert of Ottawa ,

The repubs and dementocrats are on the same team, the uniparty swamp where all congressman and senators get equal bribes if they wish

1970SSNova396 ,

They're all whores for a buck.How else can you make less than 200k per year yet retire with millions ...just in the House.

Calvertsbio ,

Yes, we are doomed, for sure it is every FAMILY for themselves... Glad I only have one kid to work thru this mess, I can keep an eye on her...

My sister, brother, father all are week too week people.. They never listened, prepared, etc... Just glad Pops has the SS and post office pension... Otherwise, would be living here... Also kind of glad they are 1200 miles away... Too bad they ignored all the signs... They will be begging in a few years.. Beans and RICE

Htos1 ,

90% of the repugs are ON the team! Otherwise billary would be a warm memory and no 9/11.

sniffybigtoe ,

Never fear! The GOP is ready and willing to do fuck all about it.

r0mulus ,

Yep- can't have a fake two party system without a fake second party to collude with...

candyman ,

After 3 hrs... ABC,CBS,NBC, CNN - nothing on the web pages.

thetruthhurts ,

November can't come fast enough for Democrats and the Corporatist deep state.

Dre4dwolf ,

Fbi leaks fake story to media -> Media reports fake story-> Fbi uses fake story as evidence in Visa Court - > Fisa court grants a Fisa warrant that would of otherwise been denied -> rinse repeat till all your political enemies are crippled by fake investigations

??? profit???

Calvertsbio ,

Of course it is, profit for the republican party. works every time... Always blame others for your own misgivings.

danl62 ,

Obama perfected that strategy. When you are guilty blame the other party. When someone else does something right take credit even though you had nothing to do with it. Than have a press conference with I,I,I me, me,me ...

Mr. Bones ,

Alinsky rules numbers 5, 6, 8, 11, and 13.

1970SSNova396 ,

The Obama dik sukers meeting has been canceled for today....try again on Tuesday Sport

stubb ,

I always blame your mother for my misdoings. Quite appropriate, as she is balls-deep involved in most of them.

HenryJ ,

"Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."...........Abraham Lincoln, a Portion of his Lyceum address

BrokeMiner ,

FBI and DOJ are just a bunch of dudes in a circle jerk that get nothing done and cover up a bunch of illegal shit. what a joke

stubb ,

They look good doing it, though.

Lord JT ,

Rod Rosenstein? more like Rod Rosenasshole, if you ask me.

Pigeon ,

Errr...Dr. Rosen Rosen...

aaahhhhh Dr. Rosenpenis

Lost in translation ,

UPVOTED!

I still use that line, myself - it was a great movie!!

Yen Cross ,

Two peas in an pod.

For the life of me, I don't understand why dudes cross swords.

Women are so beautiful.

Men are very handsome, and women are beautiful.

Yen gets confused sometimes???

The clown is 48, and an professional cheater. His wife has the sex drive of the last CAT balance sheet.

Yen is taking a nap. Fuck you very much

Yen Cross ,

Was it the CAT balance sheet, or me pile driving your trophy wife?

MoreFreedom ,

Pretty soon these conspirators will be doing plea deals that they were doing what Obama told them to do. And they'll have evidence to back it up. Otherwise Obama wouldn't be working so hard attacking Trump, along with the other guilty acting members of his administration. Strzok showed he thought he was still untouchable.

Pigeon ,

Vee ver juscht following orders

Htos1 ,

Hence, the need for tribunals at Gitmo!

RICKYBIRD ,

I think Page flipped way, way back. That's why we have her emails. Emails which the FBI tried to withhold from Congress. There are still bombshells among the Page-Strzok emals that haven't been released. The FBI has pleaded a "glitch" (that's the word it has the huzpah to use) already to excuse the slow production.

MuffDiver69 ,

Many sources for FBI investigative reports are actually media articles that were written based on leaks from the FBI investigators.

>This is one of the reasons the media are dug-in to a position of alignment with the corrupt DOJ and FBI officials.

Inasmuch as the truth is adverse to the interests of the corrupt officials, so too is that same truth toxic to the media corporations who engaged in the collaboration.

Additionally, many of the journalists who keep showing up amid the population of this ongoing story are likely connected to the Fusion-GPS network.

This creates even more motive for ongoing media obfuscation.

True Blue ,

It is a neat little circle-jerk; the FBI lacks probable cause to get the secret courts to give them a writ because their 'evidence' is obviously from a paid off source within one political party trying to undo their opposition; so they 'leak' a massive pile of steaming bullshit to the friendly presstitutes, who promptly write a 'news' article based on it, which the FBI then takes to their 'secret court' judge as 'probable cause' to spy on their patron's opposition...

This is beyond banana republic level of corruption, malfeasance and abuse of power.

TeethVillage88s ,

There are many books Non-Fiction and Fiction that indicate that the Nazis were not rooted out after WWII. Of course in hind sight there is little benefit from USA from joining WWI or WWII other than securing a position as Super Power and Financial and Trading/Industrial Giant... to assume the Anglo Empire... But to my point: I'd guess we have secrets upon secrets, we create 1000s of secrets a day, and have huge secrets industries. 17 Intel Agencies. I would guess CIA, NSA, SEC, FINRA, FDIC, Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Reserve... all have secrets and can act against Trump as Gary Cohn and Mnuchin, John Bolton, might. Lots of room for adding Mockingbird Sources.

Many sources for FBI investigative reports are actually media articles that were written based on leaks from the FBI investigators.

thebigunit ,

I'm not so sure about that.

We're sure Rosenstein will get right on it...

Rosenstein seems to me like kind of a slimy reptile.

just the tip ,

for the 10,000th time.

it is not treason god damn it.

it is sedition.

Not Too Important ,

Wrong. The dossier starts in London, with MI6. This is international involvement, which makes it all treason, and because it is against the 'Head of State', it is accurately defined as 'High Treason'.

Hillary's actions regarding her server involved the 'US Nation', which makes her crimes 'High Treason', and every single person who used that server, or knew about that server and stopped any action, is also guilty of 'High Treason'.

These are crimes punishable by death, as outlined in the US Constitution. Now you can see why there is such a massive attempt at avoiding indictments and trials. And you can see why Trump made it clear, through EO, that these widespread crimes of 'High Treason' should be handled by military tribunals.

Both sides have to play for keeps, there's only going to be one victor. And they will kill billions to avoid punishment. Or just simply take as many as they can with them, they are all psychopaths.

RICKYBIRD ,

Joe DiGenova today says Susan Rice's self-serving email memorandum to herself, which she sent literally minutes before she left the WH, concerning a recent meeting at the WH on, I think, Jan 5th, was the meeting at which the FBI ambush of General Flynn was planned. Obama, Lynch, Comey, and others, including Sally Yates were in on it.

nmewn ,

That mental image is almost as bad as Bruth Ohr & Nellie or...Bill & Hill ;-)

So, where are we at here?

Looks to me like...

Strzok...FIRED.

Comey...FIRED.

McCabe...FIRED.

Ohr...DEMOTED.

Yates...FIRED.

Nellie...fluent in Russian, a student in Russia 1989 & a CIA op before & now, walking the streets...lol.

Rybicki...RESIGNED.

Page...RESIGNED.

Finally, history will show Mike Rogers as a patriot in the entire affair, how he could just sit there, next to Comey and not stand up and garret him (knowing what he had done) in front of that Senate Committee (and the cameras) is a testament to his honor, his integrity and his commitment to the rule of law as a free man.

I couldn't have done it, it would have been over in five seconds.

[Sep 08, 2018] The untold truth about Obama's former CIA director, John Brennan

Was Brennan Saudi protégé from the very beginning of his career, promoted by the power of foreign interests?
Sep 08, 2018 | theduran.com

Yet under four years later, just after the then Soviet Union invaded, just weeks before, Afghanistan and months after the tumultuous Iranian revolution of 1979, which at the time many thought the Soviet Union had a hand in, Brennan was accepted into the CIA as a junior analyst.

At that time, John Brennan should have never got into the CIA, or any Western Intelligence agency given his communist background.

Think on that carefully as you continue to read this.

Also reflect on the fact that Brennan, later in his CIA career, was surprisingly elevated from junior analyst to the prestigious position of Station Chief in Saudi Arabia where he spent a few years.

Its said he was appointed purely for 'political' reasons, alleged to have been at the direct request of Bill Clinton and other Democrats not because of a recommendation or merit from within the Agency.

Its further said that the Saudis liked Brennan because he became very quickly 'their man' so to speak. Some reports, unsubstantiated, even allege Brennan became a Muslim while there to ingratiate himself with the Saudis.

Important to read is an NBC news article entitled 'Former Spooks Criticize CIA Director John Brennan for Spying Comments' by Ken Dilanian dated March 2nd, 2016.

The article contains many revealing facts and evidence, while giving a flavour, of the feelings of many in the CIA who felt that Brennan was totally unsuitable and unqualified to be Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

(This is the link to the above referenced article: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/ us-news/brennan-joking-when- he-says-cia-spies-doesn-t- steal-n529426 . )

A final controversy is the little known fact of Brennan's near four year departure from the CIA into the commercial world, having been 'left out in the cold' from the CIA, from November 2005 to January 2009 when he was CEO of a private company called 'The Analysis Corporation'.

So why was he then reinstated into the CIA, to the surprise of CIA's senior management, by newly elected President Obama, to head the CIA? No answer is available as to why he left the CIA in 2005.

(An important link that gives background to his experience in the commercial world can be read here: https://www.thedailybeast.com/ cia-slammed-brennans- disingenuous-contract-bid- wikileaks-show)

Lastly let's not forget Brennan's many failures as CIA head in recent years, one most notable is the Benghazi debacle and the death of a US Ambassador and others there. Something else to ponder.

Back to the present an the issue of security clearances.

In early August, on the well known American TV Rachel Maddow Show, Brennan back tracked on his Trump traitor claim by saying "I didn't mean he (Trump) committed treason. I meant what he has done is nothing short of treasonous." Rachel Maddow responded correctly "If we diagram the sentence, 'nothing short of treason' means it's treasonous?"

A simple question follows. Since he is no longer in the CIA, why does he need a security clearance other than to commercially exploit it?

Tucker Carlson explains succinctly here:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/_THfnlO-KrQ?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent

Last month what can be described as 200+ 'friends of Brennan', former CIA officials of varying rank, responded against the removal of former CIA Director Brennan's security clearances, in support of him.

These men and women too most likely will have their clearances revoked.

And why not?

Since the only purpose they retain it is to make money as civilians?

A potentially more serious issue than 'the Brennan controversies' is that the US intelligence community has around 5 million people with security clearances as a whole includes approximately 1.4m people holding top secret clearances. It is patently a ridiculously high number and makes a mockery of the word secret.

Former CIA veteran Sam Faddis is one of the few people brave enough and with the integrity required, that has stood up and told some of the real truths about Brennan in an 'Open Letter', yet this letter's contents have hardly at all been reported in the media.

Generally by nature, CIA Officers sense of service and honour to their Country, their professionalism and humility, and disdain for publicity has dissuaded most of them to enter the current very public Brennan controversy; but for how much longer?

As stated earlier, former CIA professional Sam Faddis explains what's wrong with Brennan in his revealing letter, abbreviated for space below. A link to the complete letter is: http://thepoliticsforums.com/ threads/107849-Scathing-Open- Letter-to-Mr-Brennan-by-Retired-CIA-Case-Officer:

Dear Mr. Brennan,

I implore you to cease and desist from continuing to attempt to portray yourself in the public media as some sort of impartial critic concerned only with the fate of the republic. I beg you to stop attempting to portray yourself as some sort of wise, all-knowing intelligence professional with deep knowledge of national security issues and no political inclinations whatsoever.

None of this is true.

You were never a spy. You were never a case officer. You never ran operations or recruited sources or worked the streets abroad. You have no idea whatsoever of the true nature of the business of human intelligence. You have never been in harm's way. You have never heard a shot fired in anger.

You were for a short while an intelligence analyst. In that capacity, it was your job to produce finished intelligence based on information provided to you by others. The work of intelligence analysts is important, however in truth you never truly mastered this trade either.

In your capacity as an analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency, while still a junior officer, you were designated to brief the President of the United States who was at that time Bill Clinton. As the presidential briefer, it was your job to read to the president each morning finished intelligence written by others based on intelligence collected by yet other individuals. Period.

While serving as presidential briefer you established a personal relationship with then President Bill Clinton. End of story.

Everything that has transpired in your professional career since has been based on your personal relationship with the former president, his wife Hillary and their key associates. Your connection to President Obama was, in fact, based on you having established yourself by the time he came to office as a reliable, highly political Democratic Party functionary.

All of your commentary in the public sphere is on behalf of your political patrons. It is no more impartial analysis then would be the comments of a paid press spokesman or attorney. You are speaking each and every time directly on behalf of political forces hostile to this president. You are, in fact, currently on the payroll of both NBC and MSNBC, two of the networks most vocally opposed to President Trump and his agenda.

There is no impartiality in your comments. Your assessments are not based on some sober judgment of what is best for this nation. They are based exclusively on what you believe to be in the best interests of the politicians with whom you long since allied yourself.

It should be noted that not only are you most decidedly not apolitical but that you have been associated during your career with some of the greatest foreign policy disasters in recent American history.

Ever since this President was elected, there has been a concerted effort to delegitimize him and destabilize him led by you. This has been an unprecedented; to undermine the stability of the republic and the office of the Presidency, for solely partisan political reasons. You and your patrons have been complicit in this effort and at its very heart.

You abandoned any hope of being a true intelligence professional decades ago and became a political hack. Say so.

Sam Faddis

[Sep 08, 2018] The Manafort and Cohen Convictions

Notable quotes:
"... Mueller's problem is that his entire investigation has been revealed to be permeated with illegality and dubious Constitutional premises. As the result of investigations by Congress, we know that as of December, 2015 British intelligence agencies were frantically signaling their fears about Donald Trump to Obama Administration intelligence officials, primarily the CIA of John Brennan. ..."
"... The British were demanding that Trump be taken out by whatever means because he was "soft on Russia." They were demanding that Trump be taken out by criminalizing the idea for which the American people ultimately voted, a rational relationship, rather than war, between the U.S. and Russia. ..."
"... By the early Spring, we now know Brennan was operating out of the CIA with a taskforce investigating Trump based on British "leads," despite multiple legal prohibitions against just such domestic activity by the CIA. ..."
"... That task force included Peter Strzok, the fired FBI agent who said he would do anything to prevent Trump's election. This operation included sending informants to plant fabricated evidence on peripheral figures in the Trump campaign, including George Papadopoulos and Carter Page. ..."
Sep 08, 2018 | larouchepac.com

The media posited that these two events, one by trial, one by plea, gave Robert Mueller new found credibility and "momentum' at a point where both were dissipating extremely rapidly. This claim, like the others we have examined here, has no relation to reality.

Mueller's problem is that his entire investigation has been revealed to be permeated with illegality and dubious Constitutional premises. As the result of investigations by Congress, we know that as of December, 2015 British intelligence agencies were frantically signaling their fears about Donald Trump to Obama Administration intelligence officials, primarily the CIA of John Brennan.

The British were demanding that Trump be taken out by whatever means because he was "soft on Russia." They were demanding that Trump be taken out by criminalizing the idea for which the American people ultimately voted, a rational relationship, rather than war, between the U.S. and Russia.

By the early Spring, we now know Brennan was operating out of the CIA with a taskforce investigating Trump based on British "leads," despite multiple legal prohibitions against just such domestic activity by the CIA.

That task force included Peter Strzok, the fired FBI agent who said he would do anything to prevent Trump's election. This operation included sending informants to plant fabricated evidence on peripheral figures in the Trump campaign, including George Papadopoulos and Carter Page. The fake evidence suggested that Trump was using Russian obtained "dirt" against Hillary Clinton. The evidence planting operations, mostly conducted on British soil, were designed to back up the bogus and otherwise evidence free and indefensible dossier authored by MI-6's Christopher Steele, paid for by the Clinton campaign, and promoted by the Department of State, Department of Justice, the FBI, and select reporters. The dirty British Steele dossier claimed that Trump had been compromised by Putin. Based on this, Trump was targeted in a full-set counterintelligence investigation by the FBI including surveillance of his campaign and anyone associated with it. The goal of this surveillance was to put those who were around Trump under an investigative microscope stretching back years to find any crime or misdeed for which they could be prosecuted. That is the illegal and unconstitutional backdrop to everything Robert Mueller has produced thus far. Nothing produced by Mueller has shown Trump to be a puppet of Putin as claimed by the British, the Clinton campaign, and the national news media. Nonetheless, the entire episode has damaged relations between the U.S. and Russia and between the U.S. and China, which was the British strategic goal in the first instance, continuing the dive into a new and dangerous Cold War. Trump has fought this at every step.

Paul Manafort was hired to handle delegate selection at the Republican National Convention and then as campaign manager. He worked for Trump for six months total until his legal problems became known and he resigned. He was charged by Mueller with tax, foreign agent registration act, and bank fraud offenses for his lobbying activities on behalf of the deposed government of Ukraine. That government was overthrown in coup in which John McCain played a critical role, a coup which empowered outright neo-Nazis. Christopher Steele, British intelligence, and the U.S. State Department also played major roles in the Ukraine regime change operation. Manafort was targeted by both Ukrainian and British intelligence because he, in effect, backed the perceived Russian side in the coup. For this, he was being investigated by the Obama Justice Department well prior to any campaign association with Donald Trump. Mueller simply adjusted the focus of this already political investigation, a focus aimed at turning Manafort into an asset against Trump by means of the terror of potential prison sentences numbering in the hundreds of years as the result of overcharged and duplicative indictments.

Michael Cohen, who worked with Trump as a lawyer, also had his share of prior legal problems, primarily related to taxes concerning his taxi medallion business in New York City. For months, the mainstream media has featured the claims of porn star Stormy Daniels claiming a one night stand with the future President, ten years ago, as if the nation could draw some lesson from Daniels about public virtue. Cohen apparently arranged to pay off Daniels and another woman concerning their allegations about sex with the President. Among other suspicious dealings, Cohen tape recorded conversations with his client, Donald Trump, during the campaign, a complete and total violation of legal ethics which would independently cost him his law license. For many months prior to his plea deal, Cohen has been a target of intense investigative interest based on his tax problems. In recent months, Cohen has repeatedly signaled that he was willing to betray the President and say whatever prosecutors in the Southern District of New York wanted him to say about Donald Trump in order to avoid jail. The problem is that prosecutors thought Cohen an obvious desperate liar and were not buying. Ultimately, the deal which Cohen struck has him claiming that candidate Trump asked him to pay hush money to the women, resulting in Federal Election Campaign Act violations. This is what the Justice Department claimed against John Edwards in a widely ridiculed and failed prosecution. It is exactly the type of claim by which the British and our Establishment impeached Bill Clinton.

Cohen hired long-time Clinton operative Lanny Davis to represent him in recent months and to make a deal. Following his plea, Davis claimed that Cohen had two made-up morsels to offer Mueller, in return for a reduced sentence, a claim that Trump knew about the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer, and a claim that Cohen knew about Russian hacking of Hillary Clinton's emails. Davis has since admitted that both these claims were totally false and has had to walk them back publicly.

So, if you are tempted by the media t think that either of these "convictions" are germane to the President's fitness for office, or Robert Mueller's credibility, please, seek medical attention. The madness which now infects much of official Washington may have claimed you.

[Sep 07, 2018] New York Times Undermining Peace Efforts by Sowing Suspicion by Diana Johnstone

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... The letter by Mister or Ms Anonymous is very well written. By someone like, say, Thomas Friedman. That is, someone on the NYT staff. It is very cleverly composed to achieve quite obvious calculated aims. It is a masterpiece of treacherous deception. ..."
"... This anonymous enemy of amorality claims to approve of all the most extreme right-wing measures of the Trump administration as "bright spots": deregulation, tax reform, a more robust military, "and more" – cleverly omitting mention of Trump's immigration policy which could unduly shock the New York Times' liberal readers. The late Senator John McCain, the model of bipartisan bellicosity, is cited as the example to follow. ..."
"... The "resistance" proclaimed is solely against the facets of Trump's foreign policy which White House insiders are said to be working diligently to undermine: peaceful relations with Russian and North Korea. ..."
"... Trump's desire to avoid war is transformed into "a preference for autocrats and dictators". (Trump gets no credit for his warlike rhetoric against Iran and close relations with Netanyahu, even though they must please Anonymous.) ..."
"... The purpose of this is stunningly obvious. The New York Times has already done yeoman service in rounding up liberal Democrats and left-leaning independents in the anti-Trump lynch mob. But now the ploy is to rally conservative Republicans to the same cause of overthrowing the elected President. The letter amounts to an endorsement of future President Pence. ..."
"... This is the Iago ploy. Shakespeare's villain destroyed Othello by causing him to distrust those closest to him, his wife and closest associates. Like Trump in Washington, Othello, the "Moor" of Venice, was an outsider, that much easier to deceive and betray. ..."
"... The New York Times is playing Iago, whispering that Putin in the Kremlin is surrounded by secret "informants", and that Trump in the White House is surrounded by people systematically undermining his presidency. Putin is not likely to be impressed, but the trick might work with Trump, who is truly the target of open and covert enemies and whose position is much more insecure. There is certainly some undermining going on. ..."
"... Was the New York Times oped written by the paper's own writers or by the CIA? It hardly matters since they are so closely entwined. ..."
"... The military-industrial-congressional-deep state-media complex is holding its breath to breathe that great sigh of relief. The intruder is gone. Hurrah! Now we can go right on teaching the public to hate and fear the Russian enemy, so that arms contracts continue to blossom and NATO builds up its aggressive forces around Russia in hopes that this may frighten the Russians into dumping Putin in favor of a new Boris Yeltsin, ready to let the United States pursue the Clintonian plan of breaking up the Russian Federation into pieces, like the former Yugoslavia, in order to take them over one by one, with all their great natural resources. ..."
"... When dialogue is impossible, all that is left is force and violence. That is what is being promoted by the most influential media in the United States. ..."
Sep 07, 2018 | ronpaulinstitute.org

The New York Times continues to outdo itself in the production of fake news. There is no more reliable source of fake news than the intelligence services, which regularly provide their pet outlets (NYT and WaPo) with sensational stories that are as unverifiable as their sources are anonymous. A prize example was the August 24 report that US intelligence agencies don't know anything about Russia's plans to mess up our November elections because "informants close to Putin and in the Kremlin" aren't saying anything. Not knowing anything about something for which there is no evidence is a rare scoop.

A story like that is not designed to "inform the public" since there is no information in it. It has other purposes: to keep the "Russia is undermining our democracy" story on front pages, with the extra twist in this case of trying to make Putin distrustful of his entourage. The Russian president is supposed to wonder, who are those informants in my entourage?

But that was nothing compared to the whopper produced by the "newpaper of record" on September 5. (By the way, the "record" is stuck in the same groove: Trump bad, Putin bad – bad bad bad.) This was the sensational oped headlined "I am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration", signed by nobody.

The letter by Mister or Ms Anonymous is very well written. By someone like, say, Thomas Friedman. That is, someone on the NYT staff. It is very cleverly composed to achieve quite obvious calculated aims. It is a masterpiece of treacherous deception.

The fictional author presents itself as a right-wing conservative shocked by Trump's "amorality" – a category that outside the Washington swamp might include betraying the trust of one's superior.

This anonymous enemy of amorality claims to approve of all the most extreme right-wing measures of the Trump administration as "bright spots": deregulation, tax reform, a more robust military, "and more" – cleverly omitting mention of Trump's immigration policy which could unduly shock the New York Times' liberal readers. The late Senator John McCain, the model of bipartisan bellicosity, is cited as the example to follow.

The "resistance" proclaimed is solely against the facets of Trump's foreign policy which White House insiders are said to be working diligently to undermine: peaceful relations with Russian and North Korea.

Trump's desire to avoid war is transformed into "a preference for autocrats and dictators". (Trump gets no credit for his warlike rhetoric against Iran and close relations with Netanyahu, even though they must please Anonymous.)

The purpose of this is stunningly obvious. The New York Times has already done yeoman service in rounding up liberal Democrats and left-leaning independents in the anti-Trump lynch mob. But now the ploy is to rally conservative Republicans to the same cause of overthrowing the elected President. The letter amounts to an endorsement of future President Pence. Just get rid of Trump and you'll have a nice, neat, ultra-right-wing Republican as President.

The Democrats may not like Pence, but they are so demented by hatred of Trump that they are visibly ready to accept the Devil himself to get rid of the sinister clown who dared defeat Hillary Clinton. Down with democracy; the votes of deplorables shouldn't count.

That is treacherous enough, but even more despicable is the insidious design to destabilize the presidency by sowing distrust. Speaking of Trump, Mr and/or Ms Anonymous declare: "The dilemma – which he does not fully grasp – is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations" (meaning peace with Russia).

This is the Iago ploy. Shakespeare's villain destroyed Othello by causing him to distrust those closest to him, his wife and closest associates. Like Trump in Washington, Othello, the "Moor" of Venice, was an outsider, that much easier to deceive and betray.

The New York Times is playing Iago, whispering that Putin in the Kremlin is surrounded by secret "informants", and that Trump in the White House is surrounded by people systematically undermining his presidency. Putin is not likely to be impressed, but the trick might work with Trump, who is truly the target of open and covert enemies and whose position is much more insecure. There is certainly some undermining going on.

Was the New York Times oped written by the paper's own writers or by the CIA? It hardly matters since they are so closely entwined.

No trick is too low for those who consider Trump an intolerable intruder on THEIR power territory. The New York Times "news" that Trump is surrounded by traitors is taken up by other media who indirectly confirm the story by speculating on "who is it?" The Boston Globe (among others) eagerly rushed in, asking:

"So who's the author of the op-ed? It's a question that has many people poking through the text, looking for clues. Meanwhile, the denials have come thick and fast. Here's a brief look at some of the highest-level officials in the administration who might have a motive to write the letter."

Isn't it obvious that all this is designed to make Trump distrust everyone around him? Isn't that a way to drive him toward that "crazy" where they say he already is, and which is fallback grounds for impeachment when the Mueller investigation fails to come up with nothing more serious than the fact that Russian intelligent agents are intelligent agents?

The White House insider (or insiders, or whatever) use terms like "erratic behavior" and "instability" to contribute to the "Trump is insane" narrative. Insanity is the alternative pretext to the Mueller wild goose chase for divesting Trump of the powers of the presidency. If Trump responds by accusing the traitors of being traitors, that will be final proof of his mental instability. The oped claims to provide evidence that Trump is being betrayed, but if he says so, that will be taken as a sign of mental derangement. To save our exemplary democracy from itself, the elected president must be thrown out.

The military-industrial-congressional-deep state-media complex is holding its breath to breathe that great sigh of relief. The intruder is gone. Hurrah! Now we can go right on teaching the public to hate and fear the Russian enemy, so that arms contracts continue to blossom and NATO builds up its aggressive forces around Russia in hopes that this may frighten the Russians into dumping Putin in favor of a new Boris Yeltsin, ready to let the United States pursue the Clintonian plan of breaking up the Russian Federation into pieces, like the former Yugoslavia, in order to take them over one by one, with all their great natural resources.

And when this fails, as it has been failing, and will continue to fail, the United States has all those brand new first strike nuclear weapons being stationed in European NATO countries, aimed at the Kremlin. And the Russian military are not just sitting there with their own nuclear weapons, waiting to be wiped out. When nobody, not even the President of the United States, has the right to meet and talk with Russian leaders, there is only one remaining form of exchange. When dialogue is impossible, all that is left is force and violence. That is what is being promoted by the most influential media in the United States.

[Sep 03, 2018] The US Department of Homeland Security fabricated "intelligence reports" of Russian election hacking

Russiagate can be viewed as a pretty inventive way to justify their own existence for bloated Intelligence services: first CIA hacks something leaving traces of russians or Chinese; then the FBI, CIAand Department of Homeland security all enjoy additional money and people to counter the threat.
The scheme is almost untraceable
Sep 03, 2018 | www.moonofalabama.org
BM , Sep 3, 2018 12:54:15 PM | link

The US Department of Homeland Security fabricated "intelligence reports" of Russian election hacking in order to try to get control of the election infrastructure (probebly so that they can hack it more easily to control the election results).

How the Department of Homeland Security Created a Deceptive Tale of Russia Hacking US Voter Sites

[Aug 27, 2018] Brennan was deeply involved in CIA torture practices and has been called the "assassination czar" for his role in drone attacks

Aug 27, 2018 | countercurrents.org

Extracted from: The "Brennan Affair" - Sharp Infighting at the Top

... ... ...

The CIA is a crucial instrument of U.S. imperialist domination of the people of the world. This is the organization that dispatches drones that hover constantly over rural villages in Pakistan, in Libya, in Yemen, in Somalia, terrorizing the masses, ready at any moment to call in massive airstrikes if their operators perceive a gathering of villagers as a "threat." This is the organization that cranked out fake "evidence" of "weapons of mass destruction" and "terrorist connections" (that did not really exist) in Iraq to justify the 2003 U.S. invasion that ended up killing a million people and all but destroying the Iraqi nation. This is the organization that set up secret "black site" torture centers around the world, where suspects were waterboarded, slammed into walls, and imprisoned in coffins until they were broken in body and spirit, with the torture at times continuing even after the CIA realized they were innocent.

Brennan was deeply involved in much of this and has been called the "assassination czar" for his role in drone attacks. He staunchly defended the "black sites," saying they were "vital," helped cover up the large number of civilian casualties from drone attacks, and justified kidnapping "suspects" and handing them over to be tortured by U.S. allies that are even less hemmed in than the CIA by any pretense of respect for human rights.

... ... ...

Originally published at revcom.us

[Aug 27, 2018] The Deep state is not, repeat not , the American people

Aug 27, 2018 | www.unz.com

Jeff Davis , says: July 27, 2018 at 6:24 pm GMT

@Lauri Törni

So standing up for American citizens is considered a "mentally insane" thing?

You are utterly and completely out of your mind, virtually from another planet, another reality. A textbook example of insanity. The fact that you don't recognize it, simply confirms the fact.

The Deep state is not, repeat not , the American people.

Regarding the Intel community: There are the guys in the trenches. these are honorable guys. Then there is the leadership. The current leadership is on notice to behave itself, on account of the new "Sheriff" in town. The corrupt politicized leadership from the Clinton/Bush/Obama regimes however, now out of power, are attempting to overthrow the legitimately elected president of the United States. In so doing, they are pursuing treason-lite.

Clapper, Brennan, and Hayden are already full-on war criminals: Iraq & torture. Now, in their attempt to destroy the Trump presidency, they are adding betrayal of democracy and betrayal of the Constitution of the United States to their criminal resume. These are evil men who think it is their job to run the United States from behind a malleable (gutless?) figurehead who does what they tell him to do.

As I said in my original post, it is fascinating to observe people like you, utterly dominated -- brain-raped really -- by a neocon/neoliberal narrative that has reduced them to robotic -- even willing -- slaves of the 1%. Good for you. Enjoy. The others, who prefer self-mastery to self-enslavement, will benefit from your choice of enslavement.

That is what all of this boils down to; Trump treating Americans like s*hit in front of the whole world, while praising Russia and Russians.

The IC war criminals/traitors should not be equated with or allowed to hide anonymous behind the majority population of decent Americans. Which is what simpletons like you enable and then fall for.

I fully understood all the concerns for what the Left is doing to people and to the society.

Trump praises Israel and says that, "Securing Israel's safety is our most important task" not a peep comes from the Trump-supporters?!

Some Trump supporters do object. Others however grasp the political reality of Jewish political influence in the US. Politically incompetent simpletons like yourself think Trump should commit political suicide by taking on the Jews.

The Jews/Israel will be dealt with -- or not -- later, when Trump has secured his presidency. And then, the rebalancing of the US-Israeli relationship will not be grounded in hostility to the Jews, but will be more along the lines of America First.

Never ever did I expect, that it would be the Trump-supporters surfacing as the fifth column, giving the "finishing touch" to the destruction of American citizens.

The above is pure paranoid, "the sky is falling", TDS whackadoodle.

The Liberals seem to have woken up,

The country is in the throes of a cultural war between the bubble-wrapped snowflakes and "real" people. Thankfully, the "real" people will win, precisely because they have the advantage of being reality-connected. The snowflakes will benefit as well -- you will benefit -- by the resulting opportunity to reconnect with reality.

Good luck, best wishes, Trump is rapidly changing the world for the better.

And let me add: The Soviet Union is a quarter century gone, and with it Soviet Communism. Putin is the preeminent statesman of our times. Go to YouTube and listen to what he says. He and Trump, aligned, are a force for good in the world. Peace with Russia is coming, and with it a new era of peace and prosperity in the world.

Which leaves me to echo your closing comment:

Are you ever going to be able to comprehend this?

(Answer: Probably not for another six years, if ever.)

[Aug 25, 2018] A Cynic's Guide to John Brennan and William McRaven

Aug 25, 2018 | www.counterpunch.org

...Brennan, a thirty-year CIA veteran, had first been considered to head the CIA in 2008 by President-Elect Barack Obama. Brennan withdrew his name from consideration when the ACLU and other human rights groups charged that he had been involved in the torture of suspected terrorists during the administration of President George W. Bush. Apart from consistently denying that he was personally involved with the CIA's torture program, Brennan has alternated between condemning torture and defending it. Brennan has defended "extraordinary rendition," the euphemism for "rendering" suspected terrorists to other countries to be questioned under torture . Brennan claims that he spoke out during the Bush years against some "harsh interrogation" practices, but no one has been found who recalls this. [2] Perhaps the soft-spoken Brennan spoke out quietly.

Before he became Obama's CIA director in 2013, Brennan was Obama's chief counterterrorism adviser. During the years 2009 to 2013, Brennan and Obama met every "Terror Tuesday" (the macabre designation used in the White House) to study proposed "kill lists" of suspected members of al-Qaeda and the Taliban in order to decide who the US would kill next with Hellfire missiles fired from unmanned aerial drones, including kills in countries with which the US was not at war.

Salon calls Brennan a "serial misleader" when it comes to drones. Perhaps Brennan's biggest whopper came in June 2011. In public remarks, Brennan claimed that no civilians had been killed by US drones in nearly a year. When that claim raised eyebrows, Brennan backpedaled, telling the New York Times a few days later that there had been no "credible evidence" of civilian casualties for the past year. The Bureau of Investigative Journalism, a British-based NGO, contends that at least 45 civilians were killed by US drones during that period. By the time Brennan left his post as Obama's counterterrorism adviser in 2013 to become CIA director, US drones had killed 891 civilians just in Pakistan, including 176 children, according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism.

When MSNBC host Rachel Maddow interviewed Brennan on August 17 about the loss of his security clearance, neither she nor Brennan said a word about drones. This is all the more remarkable in that Maddow had previously questioned President Obama's "Orwellian" drone program. If liberals don't like civilians being killed by drones, why are they celebrating John Brennan? CounterPunch editor Jeffrey St. Clair asks:

"Are liberals who are bewailing the revocation of John Brennan's security clearance worried that Trump's drone strikes will become less accurate?"

[Aug 24, 2018] Brennan crimes

Aug 24, 2018 | consortiumnews.com

Jean

August 15, 2018 at 11:50 pm

Helping Bush lie the world into war in Iraq

Illegally and unconstitutionally spying on USA citizens

Illegally and unconstitutionally using torture

Destroying evidence of illegal torture

Lying to Congress about illegal spying and torture

Illegally spying on congress

Working with Fusion GPS to illegally spy on a candidate and sitting President

Threatening and blackmailing a candidate sitting president with a bogus dossier compiled from top Russian government officials

Pushing propaganda on national television and threatening a sitting president

Need more?

[Aug 24, 2018] There is strong evidence that Brennan had been quarterbacking illegal operations against Trump

Notable quotes:
"... Well before Monday night, when Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani let a small bomb drop on Brennan, there was strong evidence that Brennan had been quarterbacking illegal operations against Trump. ..."
"... "I'm going to tell you who orchestrated, who was the quarterback for all this The guy running it is Brennan, and he should be in front of a grand jury. Brennan took a dossier that, unless he's the biggest idiot intelligence agent that ever lived it's false; you can look at it and laugh at it. And he peddled it to [then Senate Majority Leader] Harry Reid, and that led to the request for the investigation. So you take a false dossier, get Senators involved, and you get a couple of Republican Senators, and they demand an investigation -- a totally phony investigation." ..."
"... Will Mueller let his best-friends-forever -- the country's highest former "justice" and intelligence officials -- be held accountable? I don't think so; there is too much already available on paper, and their foul odor envelops him as well. I believe Mueller will be tempted to manufacture damaging, WMD-style "evidence" of a Trump-Russia conspiracy. (Some of you will recall that DOJ pulled that one, almost successfully, on Thomas Drake.) ..."
"... The stakes are so high, and Mueller's own behavior -- both in the past and now -- is so demonstrably smelly that, when push comes to shove, I think there is a better-than-even chance that he might take the "manufacture" risk, confident there is probably no one left with the conscience and courage of a Thomas Tamm (the DOJ lawyer who blew the whistle on gross violations of the 4th Amendment). ..."
Aug 24, 2018 | consortiumnews.com

Ray McGovern August 16, 2018 at 2:05 pm

Did anyone else notice the dog that did not bark, in NYT and WaPo coverage of the Brennan clearance story yesterday and today? I forced myself to read both papers this morning. Unless I missed it, there was no mention of what Giuliani told Hannity less than two days before Brennan lost his clearance. Here's how I put it yesterday:

++++++++++++

Well before Monday night, when Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani let a small bomb drop on Brennan, there was strong evidence that Brennan had been quarterbacking illegal operations against Trump. Giuliani added fuel to the fire when he told Sean Hannity of Fox news:

"I'm going to tell you who orchestrated, who was the quarterback for all this The guy running it is Brennan, and he should be in front of a grand jury. Brennan took a dossier that, unless he's the biggest idiot intelligence agent that ever lived it's false; you can look at it and laugh at it. And he peddled it to [then Senate Majority Leader] Harry Reid, and that led to the request for the investigation. So you take a false dossier, get Senators involved, and you get a couple of Republican Senators, and they demand an investigation -- a totally phony investigation."

+++++++++++++

I am no fan of Fox or Hannity, much less Giuiliani, but but well, isn't the President's lawyer worth mentioning when he says something this closley connected?

As I wrote earlier, Brennan is "running scared." The people who are supposed to be in charge have the goods on him. It will be of great interest to watch what happens over the next few weeks and months.

Will Mueller let his best-friends-forever -- the country's highest former "justice" and intelligence officials -- be held accountable? I don't think so; there is too much already available on paper, and their foul odor envelops him as well. I believe Mueller will be tempted to manufacture damaging, WMD-style "evidence" of a Trump-Russia conspiracy. (Some of you will recall that DOJ pulled that one, almost successfully, on Thomas Drake.)

The big question at that point would be whether DOJ and FBI have been so totally corrupted that not one lawyer/"officer of the court" and not one other employee will recognize her/his duty, by his/her solemn oath "to support and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies foreign and domestic," TO BLOW THE WHISTLE.

The stakes are so high, and Mueller's own behavior -- both in the past and now -- is so demonstrably smelly that, when push comes to shove, I think there is a better-than-even chance that he might take the "manufacture" risk, confident there is probably no one left with the conscience and courage of a Thomas Tamm (the DOJ lawyer who blew the whistle on gross violations of the 4th Amendment).

If Mueller does choose to go that route, it is to be hoped that he will be proven wrong in assuming that he and Comey were successful in weeding out any and all FBI/DOJ "malcontents" who might place their oath to the Constitution ahead of career and misguidedly blind loyalty to bosses.

What do you all think?

Ray


F. G. Sanford , August 16, 2018 at 2:13 pm

Some have wondered what charges might be brought to bear against Mr. Brennan. The article also hints that underlings may succumb to fear for their own careers and finally resort to the "just following orders" defense. That would amount to, "Brennan made me do it". Of course, Mr. Brennan could resort to that ruse as well, and implicate Clapper, Hayden, Biden or Mr. Obama himself. But lets get back to the "charges". Steele had been out of the Russia loop for ten years, and his buddy Pablo Miller was apparently retired as well. Neither one of them had any viable connections to anyone actively involved with the Putin administration. Skripal had been sentenced to eight years in prison then exchanged – if I'm not mistaken – in the Anna Chapman swap. That exchange was conducted with unusual haste and lack of fanfare, which caused some to suspect something sinister was afoot. I believe Hillary was still Secretary of State when that happened. So, Steele had no valid Russian sources that anyone can identify, but Hillary had been hooked up with Tyler Drumheller (now deceased) and Sydney Blumenthal, both of whom have been identified as participants in a private intelligence activity and various "creative writing" endeavors. Some guy named Cody Shearer popped up in the mix as well, but I don't have any idea how he fits in. My guess is, between the four of them, they "pencil whipped" the dossier – made it up out of whole cloth – and THERE WERE NO KREMLIN OR RUSSIAN SOURCES. So, the "charge" would be "falsifying an official document" under Title 18, U.S. Code. Chapter 47 of that code contains about forty particulars, but the one most applicable would probably be "18 U.S. Code § 1039 – Fraud and related activity in connection with obtaining confidential phone records information of a covered entity".

I'm pretty sure I've got this dead on, but proving it may be difficult. Keep in mind, we're dealing with people who are adept at "slithering". Prosecution would expose too many insiders to tangential jeopardy. I'm still betting nobody will see any jail time. Just sayin'.

robjira , August 16, 2018 at 2:35 pm

FG, it's been opined for a little while now that Sergei Skripal may have been the "Kremlin source" for the dossier (some have suggested Skripal may have even been the author as well).
Skripal was turned by Steele, and his handler was Miller, who (until a "D Notice" was issued to the press by the British government) apparently was also Skripal's neighbor in Salisbury.

F. G. Sanford , August 16, 2018 at 3:12 pm

All of that is apparently true according to the "official" facts. But the timeline between Skripal's discovery, interrogation, trial, imprisonment and subsequent exchange would have rendered any information he had stale or irrelevant, if he had any at all. A Russian name was required to convince a FISA court judge that there was a "source", but that judge would not have been in a position to determine source validity or reliability. And, just as conveniently as Seth Rich is no longer available to testify, Skripal has been fortuitously "disappeared". Figure the odds!

Bart Hansen , August 16, 2018 at 6:25 pm

A footnote here: The FISA court judges are appointed by the chief justice of the supreme court.

robjira , August 16, 2018 at 6:49 pm

Agreed, FG; while Skripal was obviously no longer (within the timeline of the 2016 bruhaha) a mainline into the "inner workings of the Kremlin," he would still provide adequate "local color" to the dossier's narrative.
I wonder if the way too convenient "coincidences" as we've been seeing for the past 2 years now have ever been as thick as they are these days.
Peace.

GM , August 16, 2018 at 10:33 pm

Skripal may well have contributed, but it's increasingly apparent that the dirty dossier was produced by a team of authors

Paul Merrell , August 17, 2018 at 12:32 am

FG, the DoJ usually eschews statutes that pinpoint a crime involving fraud in favor of the old durable mail and wire fraud statutes. The problem with the more specific statutes is that they rarely have much of a judicial gloss while the precedents under the mail and wire fraud statutes are beyond numerous.

Dave P. , August 16, 2018 at 3:20 pm

Nothing is going to come out of it. They are all in it together to defend the Imperial agenda of world wide domination at any price. Trump is the only outsider opposed to it in some ways, and a few others like Rand Paul. It does not matter which ever way Trump chooses; cave in as he is doing or hit back as he does sometimes, they are determined to remove him. The rot in the institutions, both government and private has gone too far deep to the core. No hope of regeneration in the near future.

William Binney was on Jimmy Dore show yesterday. He said that the Country in looking like Germany in 1933. Below is the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS3WR9Qlgvg

Ed , August 16, 2018 at 4:00 pm

Ray, what I think is that the president's statement about why Brennan was stripped of his clearance was all about Brennan's attacks on the president. That should never have been mentioned because it plays right into the hands of the democrats who claim that Trump is stifling Brennan's right to free speech.

Trump's statement need never have mentioned any of Brennan's criticisms, and should have been limited to his suspected criminal acts. Brennan has almost certainly committed numerous crimes while in government service. He is also most likely guilty of giving classified material to his media contacts. That's what Trump's statement should have addressed.

Now Trump looks like an idiot again, thanks to his inability to control his own emotions.

backwardsevolution , August 16, 2018 at 9:47 pm

Ed – Trump hasn't taken away Brennan's right to free speech at all. All he's taken away is his security clearance. Brennan is still free to speak. As I said above, the law is:

"In the case of former CIA directors, the agency 'holds' their security clearance and renews it every five years for the rest of their lives. However, that requires former CIA directors to behave like current CIA employees."

Trump is damned no matter what. Leave Brennan with a security clearance and suffer leaks to the media. Take it away and be accused of limiting Brennan's speech (which of course it doesn't do). The media will spin it no matter what.

Trump can't go around accusing Brennan of breaking the law when he doesn't have solid evidence – YET – but it's coming.

Ed , August 17, 2018 at 7:56 pm

I said that the democrats are claiming that Brennan's right to free speech is being stifled. I didn't say that I thought that was the case. IMO, a top secret clearance is actually a gag order on the holder of the clearance. As soon as Brennan opens his mouth about anything he is privy to, he loses his qualification for the clearance.

The democrats don't understand the right of free speech at all if they think that removing Brennan's clearance in any way stifles his right to speak. Trump foolishly admitted that Brennan's clearance was being pulled because of his attacks on Trump. That was stupid, but I have come to expect nothing less from Trump

Al Pinto , August 16, 2018 at 4:01 pm

In my view

Brennan having Mueller as his best-friends-forever (BFF) certainly seems sufficient protection for the near and/or long term future. I tend to agree that after the upcoming Labor Day, Mueller will drop some manufactured evidence that might have been made in advance as an "insurance policy" for Brennan. The evidence will be hard to refute and will make Brennan look like the greatest patriot

The CIA/DOJ/FBI/NSA had lost interest in the Constitution long time ego; even GW Bush said, "The Constitution is just a god damn paper " In another word, it means nothing

Ed , August 16, 2018 at 10:58 pm

With Mueller for a friend, he won't need enemies. Mueller's influential sponsors are all out of office now. Mueller himself is open to some serious charges along with Clinton and others for the uranium deal. All of these former Obama admin officials are ready to drop like ripe fruit from a tree. None of them have any power anymore and all of them could go to prison.

Brennan is done for. He doesn't have any more moves left except trying to twist the arms of some shaky democrats in Congress who he has damaging info on. Even if Mueller, Brennan, Clapper and Comey don't go to jail, they are finished. They're just flopping on the deck now.

Jean 2 , August 16, 2018 at 4:10 pm

Dear Ray, I always love your work but I'm confused by your assertions of Muellers smelly behavior. For us less informed, could you explain what behavior that is?

Paul Merrell , August 17, 2018 at 12:41 am

You'll get far with a web search for "robert mueller's sordid history". E.g., https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-03/exposed-naked-truth-about-robert-mueller

jean , August 17, 2018 at 9:34 pm

Mueller is a Bush criminal bag-man for the FBI.From the BCCI criminal banking scandel {CIA drug money} to 9/11 and lying to congress about WMDs and illegal spying and torture ..his grubby paws are all over it ..

strngr-tgthr , August 16, 2018 at 6:53 pm

I guess he is refferring to this among other things.

Alan Dershowitz:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/alan-dershowitz-maybe-robert-mueller-should-be-investigated

However today Brennan said Trump is 100% Guilty of COLLUSION and OBSTRUCTION he was the CIA, director, they no everything, so we will just have to wait and see.

AnthraxSleuth , August 17, 2018 at 4:22 am

And yet there is no such legal term as collusion.
Brennan is a jack a s s and continues to prove that daily.

How did someone who open admits he voted for the communist party candidate for pres ever get a security clearance in the first place?
Much less get confirmed as CIA director?

[Aug 24, 2018] Trump Strikes Back at 'Ringleader' Brennan by Ray McGovern

Notable quotes:
"... After eight years of enjoying President Barack Obama's solid support and defense to do pretty much anything he chose -- including hacking into the computers of the Senate Intelligence Committee -- Brennan now lacks what, here in Washington, we refer to as a "Rabbi" with strong incentive to advance and protect you. He expected Hillary Clinton to play that role (were it ever to be needed), and that seemed to be solidly in the cards. But, oops, she lost. ..."
"... What needs to be borne in mind in all this is, as former FBI Director James Comey himself has admitted: "I was making decisions in an environment where Hillary Clinton was sure to be the next president." Comey, Brennan, and co-conspirators, who decided -- in that "environment" -- to play fast and loose with the Constitution and the law, were supremely confident they would not only keep their jobs, but also receive plaudits, not indictments. ..."
"... So, unlike his predecessors, most of whom also left under a dark cloud, Brennan is bereft of anyone to protect him. He lacks even a PR person to help him avoid holding himself up to ridicule -- and now retaliation -- for unprecedentedly hostile tweets and other gaffes. Brennan's mentor, ex-CIA Director George Tenet, for example, had powerful Rabbis in President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, as well as a bizarrely empathetic establishment media, when Tenet quit in disgrace 2004. ..."
"... The main question now is whether the chairs of the House oversight committees will chose to face down the Deep State. They almost never do, and the smart money says that, if they do, they will lose -- largely because of the virtually total support of the establishment media for the Deep State. ..."
Aug 15, 2018 | consortiumnews.com

At war with current and former intelligence officials since before he was elected, Donald Trump on Wednesday moved to strip Barack Obama's CIA chief of his security clearance, though worse may be in store for John Brennan, says Ray McGovern.

There's more than meets the eye to President Donald Trump's decision to revoke the security clearances that ex-CIA Director John Brennan enjoyed as a courtesy customarily afforded former directors. The President's move is the second major sign that Brennan is about to be hoisted on his own petard. It is one embroidered with rhetoric charging Trump with treason and, far more important, with documents now in the hands of congressional investigators showing Brennan's ringleader role in the so-far unsuccessful attempts to derail Trump both before and after the 2016 election.

Brennan will fight hard to avoid being put on trial but will need united support from from his Deep State co-conspirators -- a dubious proposition. One of Brennan's major concerns at this point has to be whether the "honor-among-thieves" ethos will prevail, or whether some or all of his former partners in crime will latch onto the opportunity to "confess" to investigators: "Brennan made me do it."

Brennan: Called Trump a 'traitor.' Now Trump's taken away his security clearances.

Well before Monday night, when Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani let a small bomb drop on Brennan, there was strong evidence that Brennan had been quarterbacking illegal operations against Trump. Giuliani added fuel to the fire when he told Sean Hannity of Fox news:

"I'm going to tell you who orchestrated, who was the quarterback for all this. The guy running it is Brennan, and he should be in front of a grand jury. Brennan took a dossier that, unless he's the biggest idiot intelligence agent that ever lived it's false; you can look at it and laugh at it. And he peddled it to [then Senate Majority Leader] Harry Reid, and that led to the request for the investigation. So you take a false dossier, get senators involved, and you get a couple of Republican senators, and they demand an investigation -- a totally phony investigation."

The Fix Brennan Finds Himself In

After eight years of enjoying President Barack Obama's solid support and defense to do pretty much anything he chose -- including hacking into the computers of the Senate Intelligence Committee -- Brennan now lacks what, here in Washington, we refer to as a "Rabbi" with strong incentive to advance and protect you. He expected Hillary Clinton to play that role (were it ever to be needed), and that seemed to be solidly in the cards. But, oops, she lost.

What needs to be borne in mind in all this is, as former FBI Director James Comey himself has admitted: "I was making decisions in an environment where Hillary Clinton was sure to be the next president." Comey, Brennan, and co-conspirators, who decided -- in that "environment" -- to play fast and loose with the Constitution and the law, were supremely confident they would not only keep their jobs, but also receive plaudits, not indictments.

Unless one understands and remembers this, it is understandably difficult to believe that the very top U.S. law enforcement and intelligence officials did what documentary evidence has now demonstrated they did.

So, unlike his predecessors, most of whom also left under a dark cloud, Brennan is bereft of anyone to protect him. He lacks even a PR person to help him avoid holding himself up to ridicule -- and now retaliation -- for unprecedentedly hostile tweets and other gaffes. Brennan's mentor, ex-CIA Director George Tenet, for example, had powerful Rabbis in President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, as well as a bizarrely empathetic establishment media, when Tenet quit in disgrace 2004.

The main question now is whether the chairs of the House oversight committees will chose to face down the Deep State. They almost never do, and the smart money says that, if they do, they will lose -- largely because of the virtually total support of the establishment media for the Deep State.

This often takes bizarre forms. The title of a recent column by Washington Post "liberal" commentator Eugene Robinson speaks volumes: "God Bless the Deep State."

Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, a publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. During his 27-year career as a CIA analyst, he served under nine CIA directors and seven Presidents. He is a member of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).


backwardsevolution , August 20, 2018 at 2:22 pm

O Society – this is what I posted further down the page:

"This is what I found from Executive Order 12968 (Access to Classified Information): eligibility is granted on the basis of standards, including 'strength of character, trustworthiness, honesty, reliability, discretion, and sound judgment'. John Brennan has made some wild accusations against President Trump recently, going so far as accusing him of treason, etc.

Under Sec. 3.4. Reinvestigation Requirements, it says:

"(b) Employees who are eligible for access to classified information shall be the subject of periodic reinvestigations and may also be reinvestigated if, at any time, there is reason to believe that they may no longer meet the standards for access established in this order."

https://fas.org/sgp/clinton/eo12968.html

John Brennan no longer meets the "standards" laid out in Executive Order 12968. He has NOT shown discretion, honesty, trustworthiness, reliability. He is even suspected of leaking classified information to the media. And accusing President Trump of treason for talking to Putin (and other things he has said about Trump) went too far.

The Russiagate lies are trickling out now and the players are slowly being revealed (Comey, Clinton, Lynch, Yates, Strzok, Page, Rosenstein, McCabe, Ohr, Crowdstrike, Fusion GPS, Christopher Steele, the DNC, etc.) Watergate pales in comparison.

sgt_doom , August 19, 2018 at 3:16 pm

Two Questions for John Brennan

[Formal Disclaimer: Never voted for, nor liked, Donald Trump -- never voted for any republiCON for that matter.]

Mikey Morrell, lame loser, CBS analyst and former CIA guy during the time of that fabricated intelligence on those weapons-of-mass-destruction in Iraq, claims John Brennan is a national security resource!?

Riiiiiiiiiggggghhhhtttt . . . .

OK, so let's pose two questions to examine how valid Morrell's claim is.

(1) Brennan was the CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia at the time when the State Department examiner rejected American visa applications by twelve of the thirteen future 9/11 hijackers -- that refusal was countermanded or overridden by the CIA.

So, Mr. Brennan, what was your responsibility in this matter and why wasn't your security clearance immediately pulled after 9/11 and why weren't you investigated on this situation?

(2) During the time Brennan was CIA director the American intelligence and defense establishment was severely penetrated by Chinese military hackers (the Pentagon, CIA, NSA, private defense contractors and various government agencies, most notably the OPM which had over 25 million personnel records compromised).

So, Mr. Brennan, were you paid above minimum wage for your job performance during that period, and if so, how can you justify it?

John Brennan as a national security resource?!

More like a national security disaster ! ! !

National security resource my barbarously hard butt!

Tom , August 18, 2018 at 10:57 pm

Suggestion for Brennan. If he really wants to be taken seriously, start by toning down the arrogance. I mean, it's bad enough to have to deal with Trump's racism, arrogance and more. Now we have Brennan with his do-you-know-who-the-****-I-am attitude every time he's on camera. Two out of control mega egos inside the Beltway. Who cares.

Alcuin , August 18, 2018 at 9:37 am

Re Brennan as ringleader, was he coordinating with the British and/or other governments concerned about Brexit and populism?

Alcuin , August 18, 2018 at 9:05 am

Re Brennan as ringleader, is the speculation that Rosenstein's wife works for the CIA credible?

Brenda Schouten Beckett , August 18, 2018 at 9:03 am

Ray, thank you SO MUCH for giving us something we can use to explain to others about this recent Brennan scandal. People over here in the Netherlands are getting "news" that Trump is a dictator who won't let honest people tell their story. Brennan is being played over here as the victim. Nobody knows the story of the betrayal that made me lose faith in President Obama: when he appointed this beast to chief of the CIA. THEN I finally woke up and realized Obama was just as bad as Bush ever was. We need more articles like this to explain to people you do NOT have to be a Trump supporter to expose these war criminals. Please, the "father of waterboarding" is NOW the "victim"? When will people wake up. And then President Obama gets on television and with all his folksy charm, tells the world, "We tortured some folks" as if saying it like that made it just a tiny little misstep.

Fesje van der Wal-Kijlstra , August 18, 2018 at 4:06 am

I read (Google) Brennan visited Kiev, in the end of June 2014., about 3 weeks before the MH17 was taken down.
Oliver Stone knew CIA had a false flag incident in mind when their invasion in the Bay of Pigs did not work out to end the rule of Fidel Castro in Cuba: taking down an aircraft and blaming Castro for it. John F. Kennedy did not permit this.
Assuming Brennan's visit was not just to be polite, could there be a connection between his visit and the taking sown of MH17. Russian rebels shot 6 descending planes with granates from their shoulder. Poroshenko called them "terrrists" and this fase flag (?) could be helpful.

[Aug 24, 2018] What the Brennan Affair Really Reveals by Stephen F. Cohen

Notable quotes:
"... The Nation's ..."
"... Presumably in reaction, Trump revoked Brennan's security clearance, the continuing access to classified information usually accorded to former security officials. In the political-media furor that followed, Brennan was mostly heroized as an avatar of civil liberties and free speech, and Trump traduced as their enemy. ..."
"... Brennan's allegation was unprecedented. No such high-level intelligence official had ever before accused a sitting president of treason, still more in collusion with the Kremlin. ..."
"... (Perhaps because the disloyalty allegation against Trump has been customary ever since mid-2016, even before he became president, when an array of influential publications and writers -- among them a former acting CIA director -- began branding him Putin's "puppet," "agent," "client," and "Manchurian candidate." The Los Angeles Times ..."
"... Why did Brennan, a calculating man, risk leveling such a charge, which might reasonably be characterized as sedition? The most plausible explanation is that he sought to deflect growing attention to his role as the "Godfather" of the entire Russiagate narrative, as Cohen argued back in February. If so, we need to know Brennan's unvarnished views on Russia. ..."
"... New York Times ..."
"... The Washington Post ..."
"... Is this liberal historical amnesia? Is it professional incompetence? A quick Google search would reveal Brennan's less-than-"impeccable" record, FBI misdeeds under and after Hoover, as well as the Senate's 1975 Church Committee's investigation of the CIA and other intelligence agencies' very serious abuses of their power. ..."
Aug 22, 2018 | www.thenation.com

Valorizing an ex-CIA director and bashing Trump obscures what is truly ominous.

Stephen F. Cohen, professor emeritus of Russian studies and politics at NYU and Princeton, and John Batchelor continue their (usually) weekly discussions of the new US-Russian Cold War. (Previous installments, now in their fifth year, are at TheNation.com .)

Ever since Dwight Eisenhower in the 1950s, every American president has held one or more summit meetings with the Kremlin leader, first and foremost in order to prevent miscalculations that could result in war between the two nuclear superpowers. Generally, they received bipartisan support for doing so. In July, President Trump continued that tradition by meeting with Russian President Putin in Helsinki, for which, unlike previous presidents, he was scathingly criticized by much of the US political-media establishment. John Brennan, CIA director under President Obama, however, went much further, characterizing Trump's press conference with Putin as "nothing short of treasonous." Presumably in reaction, Trump revoked Brennan's security clearance, the continuing access to classified information usually accorded to former security officials. In the political-media furor that followed, Brennan was mostly heroized as an avatar of civil liberties and free speech, and Trump traduced as their enemy.

Leaving aside the missed occasion to discuss the "revolving door" involving former US security officials using their permanent clearances to enhance their lucrative positions outside government, Cohen thinks the subsequent political-media furor obscures what is truly important and perhaps ominous:

Brennan's allegation was unprecedented. No such high-level intelligence official had ever before accused a sitting president of treason, still more in collusion with the Kremlin. (Impeachment discussions of Presidents Nixon and Clinton, to take recent examples, did not include allegations involving Russia.) Brennan clarified his charge : "Treasonous, which is to betray one's trust and to aid and abet the enemy." Coming from Brennan, a man presumed to be in possession of related dark secrets, as he strongly hinted , the charge was fraught with alarming implications. Brennan made clear he hoped for Trump's impeachment, but in another time, and in many other countries, his charge would suggest that Trump should be removed from the presidency urgently by any means, even a coup. No one, it seems, has even noted this extraordinary implication with its tacit threat to American democracy. (Perhaps because the disloyalty allegation against Trump has been customary ever since mid-2016, even before he became president, when an array of influential publications and writers -- among them a former acting CIA director -- began branding him Putin's "puppet," "agent," "client," and "Manchurian candidate." The Los Angeles Times even saw fit to print an article suggesting that the military might have to remove Trump if he were to be elected, thereby having the very dubious distinction of predating Brennan.)

Why did Brennan, a calculating man, risk leveling such a charge, which might reasonably be characterized as sedition? The most plausible explanation is that he sought to deflect growing attention to his role as the "Godfather" of the entire Russiagate narrative, as Cohen argued back in February. If so, we need to know Brennan's unvarnished views on Russia.

They are set out with astonishing (perhaps unknowing) candor in a New York Times op-ed of August 17. They are those of Joseph McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover in their prime. Western "politicians, political parties, media outlets, think tanks and influencers are readily manipulated, wittingly and unwittingly, or even bought outright, by Russian operatives not only to collect sensitive information but also to distribute propaganda and disinformation. I was well aware of Russia's ability to work surreptitiously within the United States, cultivating relationships with individuals who wield actual or potential power. These Russian agents are well trained in the art of deception. They troll political, business and cultural waters in search of gullible or unprincipled individuals who become pliant in the hands of their Russian puppet masters. Too often, those puppets are found." All this, Brennan assures readers, is based on his "deep insight." All the rest of us, it seems, are constantly susceptible to "Russian puppet masters" under our beds, at work, on our computers. Clearly, there must be no "cooperation" with the Kremlin's grand "Puppet Master," as Trump said he wanted early on. (People who wonder what and when Obama knew about the unfolding Russiagate saga need to ask why he would keep such a person so close for so long.)

And yet, scores of former intelligence and military officials rallied around this unvarnished John Brennan, even though, they said, they did not entirely share his opinions. This too is revealing. They did so, it seems clear enough, out of their professional corporate identity, which Brennan represented and Trump was degrading by challenging the intelligences agencies' (implicitly including his own) Russiagate allegations against him. It's a misnomer to term these people representatives of a hidden "deep state." In recent years, they have been amply visible on television and newspaper op-ed pages. Instead, they see and present themselves as members of a fully empowered and essential fourth branch of government. This too has gone largely undiscussed while nightingales of the fourth branch -- such as David Ignatius and Joe Scarborough in the pages of the The Washington Post -- have been in full voice.

The result is, of course -- and no less ominous -- to criminalize any advocacy of "cooperating with Russia," or détente, as Trump sought to do in Helsinki with Putin. Still more, a full-fledged Russophobic hysteria is sweeping through the American political-media establishment, from Brennan and -- pending actual evidence against her -- those who engineered the arrest of Maria Butina (imagine how this endangers young Americans networking in Russia) to the senators now preparing new "crippling sanctions" against Moscow and the editors and producers at the Times , Post , CNN, and MSNBC. (However powerful, how representative are these elites when surveys indicate that a majority of the American people still prefer good relations with Moscow?) As the dangers grow of actual war with Russia -- again, from Ukraine and the Baltic region to Syria -- the capacity of US policy-makers, above all the president, are increasingly diminished. To be fair, Brennan may only be a symptom of this profound American crisis, some say the worst since the Civil War.

Finally, there was a time when many Democrats, certainly liberal Democrats, could be counted on to resist this kind of hysteria and, yes, spreading neo-McCarthyism. (Brennan's defenders accuse Trump of McCarthyism, but Brennan's charge of treason without presenting any actual evidence was quintessential McCarthy.) After all, civil liberties, including freedom of speech, are directly involved -- and not only Brennan's and Trump's. But Democratic members of Congress and pro-Democratic media outlets are in the forefront of the new anti-Russian hysteria, with only a few exceptions. Thus a generally liberal historian tells CNN viewers that "Brennan is an American hero. His tenure at the CIA was impeccable. We owe him so much." Elsewhere the same historian assures readers , "There has always been a bipartisan spirit of support since the CIA was created in the Cold War." In the same vein, two Post reporters write of the FBI's " once venerated reputation ."

Is this liberal historical amnesia? Is it professional incompetence? A quick Google search would reveal Brennan's less-than-"impeccable" record, FBI misdeeds under and after Hoover, as well as the Senate's 1975 Church Committee's investigation of the CIA and other intelligence agencies' very serious abuses of their power.

Or have liberals' hatred of Trump nullified their own principles?

The critical-minded Russian adage would say, "All three explanations are worst."

Stephen F. Cohen Stephen F. Cohen is a professor emeritus of Russian studies and politics at New York University and Princeton University and a contributing editor of The Nation .

[Aug 24, 2018] Brennan the leaker

Notable quotes:
"... There is very substantial evidence that John Brennan has continued to act as a leaker over the past few months in order to create media narratives. ..."
Aug 24, 2018 | consortiumnews.com

Anne Jaclard , August 15, 2018 at 9:16 pm

There is very substantial evidence that John Brennan has continued to act as a leaker over the past few months in order to create media narratives.

In July, the New York Times published a front-page article on Trump's alleged behaviour when he was briefed by the DNI about Russian interference (remember that "DNI Report" that said RT programming on fracking and Occupy swayed the electorate to vote for Trump?)

The story says that Trump was briefed by "John O. Brennan, the C.I.A. director; James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence; and Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency and the commander of United States Cyber Command," and that the meetings were top-secret. The story is entirely based around testimony from "several people who attended the intelligence briefing."

Only three people attended the meeting, and Brennan is a stated enemy of Trump. It is therefore all but stated that the story is basically a "plant" by the former head of the CIA, on the front page of the US's most well-regarded newspaper! They've gone from publishing Sy Hersh on intelligence abuse to letting their paper be used as an editorial space for ex-spooks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/world/europe/trump-intelligence-russian-election-meddling-.html

[Aug 24, 2018] Brennan and the anti Russia neo-cons in the deep state wanted Hillary so badly that they committed crimes trying to derail Trump

Notable quotes:
"... Brennen and the anti Russia neo-cons in the deep state wanted Hillary.She was their queen and has the body count to prove it. They were going to make sure noone else was elected and they were going to blackmail and threaten anyone who got in the way Trump was a shock. ..."
"... "Clinton encouraged Trump's efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape." ..."
Aug 24, 2018 | consortiumnews.com

jean, August 17, 2018 at 9:50 pm

Brennen and the anti Russia neo-cons in the deep state wanted Hillary.She was their queen and has the body count to prove it. They were going to make sure noone else was elected and they were going to blackmail and threaten anyone who got in the way Trump was a shock.

Even Trump didn't think he was going to win and didn't want to. That's why Melanie cried when he won..

He was only there as a pied piper for Hillary who hand picked Trump and had Bill give Trump tips on how to run as a republican {Trump hasn't been a republican since 1999 and was a big Hillary supporter}.

Donald Trump talked politics with Bill Clinton weeks before launching 2016 bid

Four Trump allies and one Clinton associate familiar with the exchange said that Clinton encouraged Trump's efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html?utm_term=.229feb8d9ece

get that?

"Clinton encouraged Trump's efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape."

Now WHY would Bill do that?wanna hint?

Clinton and Brenner and the FBI thought they had it in the bag ..Trump leaked out all over the floor and now they are desperate to clean up the mess so they can get back to mass murder and war.

[Aug 24, 2018] the Wall Street Journal mentioned Brennan's alleged role in the creation of the Steele Dossier

Notable quotes:
"... The entire trans-Atlantic Establishment is behind the anti-Russia campaign and it started long before the election (for any doubters, Robert Parry's articles on Ukraine and MH17 should give one an idea of this). ..."
Aug 24, 2018 | consortiumnews.com

Anne Jaclard , August 16, 2018 at 7:55 pm

I do know that the Wall Street Journal mentioned Brennan's alleged role in the creation of the Steele Dossier and the FBI texting scheme in both the news and editorial pages, but I still don't think that he personally is the "ringleader" of all of this.

The entire trans-Atlantic Establishment is behind the anti-Russia campaign and it started long before the election (for any doubters, Robert Parry's articles on Ukraine and MH17 should give one an idea of this).

[Aug 24, 2018] Brennan does not work for Muslim Brotherhood, he works for the brotherhood of war profiteers.

Notable quotes:
"... Seems without a doubt that Brennan is guilty as a coconspirator to perpetrate a fraud on the FISA court. ..."
"... Brennan understood there would be hell to pay if it came out Hillary partisans in the U.S. government were spying on her opponent's campaign, making use of opposition research she had purchased. But Brennan, who was auditioning to be Hillary's CIA director and choking on his anger at the thought of Trump as president, couldn't help himself apparently. ..."
"... From April 2016 to July 2016, according to leaked stories in the British press, he assembled a multi-agency taskforce that served as the beginnings of a counterintelligence probe into the Trump campaign. During these months, he was "personally briefing" Obama on "Russian interference" -- Brennan's euphemism for spying on the Trump campaign -- and was practically camped out at the White House. So in all likelihood Obama knew about and had given his blessing to Brennan's dirt-digging. ..."
"... The FBI's liaison to Brennan was Peter Strzok, whose hatred for Trump equaled Brennan's. But even Strzok knew Brennan was blowing smoke about Trump-Russian collusion. Strzok would later tell his mistress he sensed the probe would prove a crock -- "there's no big there there." ..."
"... There is very substantial evidence that John Brennan has continued to act as a leaker over the past few months in order to create media narratives. ..."
"... There is ample evidence in open public news reports of BO's having his finger on the scale, both before the election and after Trump's inauguration, which implicates him in pre-election meddling, as well as post-inauguration apparent sedition, in the form of his (Obama's) shadowing Trump as he (Trump) began his first awkward attempts at visiting overseas, likely offerring these potentates an alternative foreign policy, (once a coupe d'tat of some sort takes place) . ..."
"... Brennan was Obama's stooge. Can't wait to hear JB sing. ..."
Aug 24, 2018 | consortiumnews.com

Paul Merrell , August 17, 2018 at 3:06 am

After reviewing Dept. of the Navy v. Egan, I'd be inclined to include a count of unauthorized disclosure of classified information in the charges against Brennan. See Egan, 484 U.S. 518 (1988), https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/484/518/ [1]

Almost certainly, Brennan's arrogance and impunity have allowed classified information to pass his lips during his various pronouncements on Russia-Gate. Prosecuting him for disclosure of classified information thus draws on a large body of prior statements, enabling him to be prosecuted for his prior statements. It also deprives him of his defebse if a purported First Amendment right of free speech. And the more instances of him spouting classified information are proved, the more wild he and his prior statements will seem to the jury.

[1] "The President, after all, is the 'Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States.' U.S.Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. This Court has recognized the Government"s 'compelling interest' in withholding national security information from unauthorized persons in the course of executive business. The authority to protect such information falls on the President as head of the Executive Branch and as Commander in Chief."

(Internal citations omitted.)

backwardsevolution , August 17, 2018 at 7:13 pm

Paul Merrell – thanks for the addition of "unauthorized disclosure of classified information".

"Almost certainly, Brennan's arrogance and impunity have allowed classified information to pass his lips during his various pronouncements on Russia-Gate."

Yes. Washington has been leaking like a sieve, and I have no doubt that Brennan has played some role in this leakage.

With the evidence now trickling out of the Department of Justice and the FBI re spying/FISA Court abuse/Steele dossier, I'm holding out for "Seditious Conspiracy," because I think this was their "intent" all along. LOL – I'm going right for the jugular!

AnthraxSleuth , August 17, 2018 at 4:58 am

Seems without a doubt that Brennan is guilty as a coconspirator to perpetrate a fraud on the FISA court.

Oedipa Maas , August 15, 2018 at 11:31 pm

Seymour Hersh: Russia Gate: a Brennan operation.

Antiwar7 , August 15, 2018 at 11:07 pm

Ray, what do you think the outcome will be for Brennan?

Incidentally, for all the people who routinely call Putin a thug, what about Brennan? It's well known he chaired the Obama kill sessions, aka Terror Tuesdays. And he's got the look.

Jessika , August 15, 2018 at 10:59 pm

The crux of this whole sorry saga that has dominated the public sphere for approaching two years now, is that nothing gets done for American people whose tax dollars are wasted on this pathetic show, demonstrating that the "public servants" exist primarily to serve themselves.

That Brennan should be a mouthpiece for MSNBC is testimony to the mess of American politics both "right" and "left".

Too bad JFK's wish to shatter the CIA into "a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds" was ended.

O Society , August 15, 2018 at 9:42 pm

"Brennan knew he was treading on a political minefield. He referred to the FBI/ CIA's spying on the Trump campaign as an "exceptionally, exceptionally sensitive issue." That helpful crumb comes from Russian Roulette, the book by David Corn and Michael Isikoff.

Brennan understood there would be hell to pay if it came out Hillary partisans in the U.S. government were spying on her opponent's campaign, making use of opposition research she had purchased. But Brennan, who was auditioning to be Hillary's CIA director and choking on his anger at the thought of Trump as president, couldn't help himself apparently.

From April 2016 to July 2016, according to leaked stories in the British press, he assembled a multi-agency taskforce that served as the beginnings of a counterintelligence probe into the Trump campaign. During these months, he was "personally briefing" Obama on "Russian interference" -- Brennan's euphemism for spying on the Trump campaign -- and was practically camped out at the White House. So in all likelihood Obama knew about and had given his blessing to Brennan's dirt-digging.

The FBI's liaison to Brennan was Peter Strzok, whose hatred for Trump equaled Brennan's. But even Strzok knew Brennan was blowing smoke about Trump-Russian collusion. Strzok would later tell his mistress he sensed the probe would prove a crock -- "there's no big there there."

What's valuable about the Corn/ Isikoff account is it inadvertently provides a picture of Brennan running an anti-Trump spying operation right out of Langley. Even after the FBI probe formally began in July 2016, Brennan was bringing CIA agents, FBI officials, and NSA officials into the same room at CIA headquarters to pool their anti-Trump hunches.

To give these meetings a patina of respectability, Brennan invoked the post-9/11 rationale of interagency cooperation. Their political import is still unmistakable."

John Brennan's Exceptionally Sensitive Issue

Anne Jaclard , August 15, 2018 at 9:16 pm

There is very substantial evidence that John Brennan has continued to act as a leaker over the past few months in order to create media narratives.

In July, the New York Times published a front-page article on Trump's alleged behaviour when he was briefed by the DNI about Russian interference (remember that "DNI Report" that said RT programming on fracking and Occupy swayed the electorate to vote for Trump?)

The story says that Trump was briefed by "John O. Brennan, the C.I.A. director; James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence; and Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency and the commander of United States Cyber Command," and that the meetings were top-secret. The story is entirely based around testimony from "several people who attended the intelligence briefing."

Only three people attended the meeting, and Brennan is a stated enemy of Trump. It is therefore all but stated that the story is basically a "plant" by the former head of the CIA, on the front page of the US's most well-regarded newspaper! They've gone from publishing Sy Hersh on intelligence abuse to letting their paper be used as an editorial space for ex-spooks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/world/europe/trump-intelligence-russian-election-meddling-.html

RnM , August 15, 2018 at 9:04 pm

" He expected Hillary Clinton to play that role (were it ever to be needed), and that seemed to be solidly in the cards. But, oops, she lost .."

The simple truth is that President Barrack Obama was clearly seen and heard desperately attempting to prop up Hillary, perhaps the weakest candidate to ever run. (And there have been some weak candidates in my memory. Dukakis, McCain and Romney come to mind, but none of them had frequent coughing fits at the podium, stumbled up stairs, or had to be dragged and shoved into a oversized SUV. Very Presidential, eh? Did the Russkies do that one?), in order to protect his legacy.

There is ample evidence in open public news reports of BO's having his finger on the scale, both before the election and after Trump's inauguration, which implicates him in pre-election meddling, as well as post-inauguration apparent sedition, in the form of his (Obama's) shadowing Trump as he (Trump) began his first awkward attempts at visiting overseas, likely offerring these potentates an alternative foreign policy, (once a coupe d'tat of some sort takes place) .

Brennan was Obama's stooge. Can't wait to hear JB sing.

JWalters , August 15, 2018 at 8:00 pm

I recall being hopeful when Brennan testified to the Senate that he would implement Obama's plan to transfer all CIA drone operations to the military. This echoed JFK's order to transfer all CIA military operations to the military, essentially reverting the CIA to its original purpose of gathering information. The JFK case was discussed well by Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty. JFK's order died with him. Obama's order was never implemented by Brennan. So who does Brennan really work for? An obvious candidate is the brotherhood of war profiteers. e.g. http://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com

[Aug 24, 2018] From reading The Devil s Chessboard it is quite clear that Allen Dulles still ran things after he was fired by JFK, and was most likely the coordinator of the assassination

Notable quotes:
"... Right now I think they are trying to figure out a way to get him out of office without having to actually kill him. ..."
"... I too think they'd love to assassinate Trump, but I don't think they dare. ..."
Aug 24, 2018 | consortiumnews.com

Skip Scott August 18, 2018 at 6:31 am

Hi B.E.-

I agree that Brennan should have his clearance revoked, and frankly so should anyone after they leave government. The thing is, I just got done reading "The Devil's Chessboard", and it is quite clear that Allen Dulles still ran things after he was fired by JFK, and was most likely the coordinator of the assassination.

I doubt that Trump has any more control of the CIA than JFK had.

Until people like Brennan are capable of being prosecuted in a court of law, our so-called "Intelligence" agencies don't give a rat's ass what the president orders. In fact, they probably give "suggestions" that are in fact orders.

Right now I think they are trying to figure out a way to get him out of office without having to actually kill him.

backwardsevolution , August 18, 2018 at 8:22 am

Hi, Skip. The Devil's Chessboard sounds like a good book; I'll have to read it. Yes, I think whoever gets to the top of the CIA is probably one mean, bad monster of a human being.

I too think they'd love to assassinate Trump, but I don't think they dare. There are too many people who just don't believe the government anymore, and Trump's supporters would blow the roof off if anything happened to him. They've got to be worried about that because they're the ones with all the guns. Ha!

I think they're desperately racing against time, trying to nail Trump before he nails them. The evidence is slowly trickling out (because the FBI and DOJ are stalling) re the Steele dossier/Russiagate/spying, etc.

From the evidence gathered so far, it's pretty evident that the upper layer of the DOJ, FBI and CIA are rotten to the core and should be dismantled ASAP. If all Trump does while being in office is bring these guys down, then he will have done a great service.

Take care.

[Aug 24, 2018] The Skripnal affair in the UK and Russiagate here in the US demonstrate the absolute and utter contempt of neoliberal elite of populace they rule

Notable quotes:
"... Anyway, what's there to argue: in its founding documents, the EU declares that its foreign and security policies will follow those of NATO. In other words, Europeans have declared *themselves* to be incapable of thinking about their place in the world, letting Uncle Sam do this for them instead. Nobody will respect them unless they first learn to respect themselves. ..."
"... By the standards our Congress is applying to Russia, this would be an "Act of War", now wouldn't it? ..."
"... Well the EU swallowed the farcical story of the Scripals so I expect anything Mrs May tells them about a leak will be believed. ..."
"... International spookery is a lucrative job, if you can get in it. ..."
"... Truth is every bit as strange as fiction, only dirtier. I have to believe that international skulduggery and its various specialties like espionage, smuggling, hacking, whacking and merking is a growth industry in today's globalist world. Millennials take note, if you want to pay off those student loans in this lifetime, because I'm sure they will still collect on them in Hades. ..."
"... GCHQ is there to support the establishment and the neocons. If Corbyn were to be elected, they will be in the thick of causing as much trouble as possible for the new government. Gladio springs to mind. ..."
"... john wilson – "the farce continues." Absolutely. The Skripnal affair in the U.K. and Russiagate here in the U.S. demonstrate the absolute and utter contempt our respective elites have for the intelligence of the populace of each nation. I ..."
Aug 24, 2018 | consortiumnews.com

Ma Laoshi , August 21, 2018 at 8:10 am

As the author also acknowledges with the references to the Belgacom saga: what else is new. It's not just spying, but outright sabotage of critical European infrastructure, which is one of the factors showing that if you'd ever want the EU to go anywhere, step one is that you'd *want* to throw the Brits out–the London branch of the US Govt will *never* be a loyal European ally. Instead of getting its own act together, the article informs us that the EU "is concerned to retain access to the UK's defense and security powers post-Brexit".

This goes to show that the problem lies a bit deeper, since ultimately the loyalty of Merkel and Macron is also to the Dark Throne, though perhaps not to the same extent as with Ms. May.

Anyway, what's there to argue: in its founding documents, the EU declares that its foreign and security policies will follow those of NATO. In other words, Europeans have declared *themselves* to be incapable of thinking about their place in the world, letting Uncle Sam do this for them instead. Nobody will respect them unless they first learn to respect themselves.

John McCarthy , August 18, 2018 at 8:24 pm

By the standards our Congress is applying to Russia, this would be an "Act of War", now wouldn't it?

padre , August 18, 2018 at 12:08 pm

First thing that comes to mind is, whether there were any Russians involved?

Peter , August 19, 2018 at 3:28 pm

Of course they were. Britishers never would spy on their "friends", would they now?. I think that Putin personally did the spying, the man has just too much time on his hands.

Brad Owen , August 18, 2018 at 9:19 am

Have British spies been hacking the EU you ask? Is it not true that spies have been at work in the isles and on the Continent for CENTURIES? I would say it's an even more important force than the military forces, what with their ability to embroil one enemy in a war with another enemy, thus eliminating two enemies, with just a bagful of money and a few proxy provocateurs. No wonder finance is King, intelligence/covert ops his governing Prime Minister, and over rules the military industrialists and uniformed services and the citizenry and their elected representatives.

john wilson , August 18, 2018 at 5:35 am

Well the EU swallowed the farcical story of the Scripals so I expect anything Mrs May tells them about a leak will be believed. Whatever the EU negotiators have to say about Brexit behind closed doors seems to be irrelevant as sooner or later they will have to put their cards on the table.

Realist , August 18, 2018 at 4:19 am

International spookery is a lucrative job, if you can get in it. Mental time slip back to the early 60's. Ian Fleming's "James Bond" novels had just hit the states as the latest craze and one of my best friends, a Ukrainian fellow, therefore congenitally attracted to the dark side, discovers them and becomes a cult follower, so much so that when he's kicked out of college for fraud a few years later he becomes involved in international gemstone smuggling under the mentorship of an ex-Nazi uncle ensconced near the Brasil-Argentine border, makes beaucoup lucre, marries a fellow American expat down in Latin America at the height of Iran-Contra shenanigans and eventually returns home a very wealthy man now living out his dotage in the closest thing to a manor house in the exurbs north of Chicago.

Truth is every bit as strange as fiction, only dirtier. I have to believe that international skulduggery and its various specialties like espionage, smuggling, hacking, whacking and merking is a growth industry in today's globalist world. Millennials take note, if you want to pay off those student loans in this lifetime, because I'm sure they will still collect on them in Hades.

John A , August 18, 2018 at 4:05 am

GCHQ is there to support the establishment and the neocons. If Corbyn were to be elected, they will be in the thick of causing as much trouble as possible for the new government. Gladio springs to mind.

john wilson , August 18, 2018 at 5:49 am

Jean, the latest in the Scripal case gets ever more bizarre. A few days ago the police went to the homes of 12 people who were in the Zizzies restaurant (don't know if is was staff or members of the public) and took away their clothes for testing.

This is a full FIVE MONTHS after the event.

I know we British are a scruffy lot, if not down right dirty, but for Christ sake give it rest, even we wash our clothes after five months. The farce continues.

Gary Weglarz , August 18, 2018 at 11:11 am

john wilson – "the farce continues." Absolutely. The Skripnal affair in the U.K. and Russiagate here in the U.S. demonstrate the absolute and utter contempt our respective elites have for the intelligence of the populace of each nation. It almost makes one long for the good old days when our intelligence agencies had to at least try to come up with plausible explanations for elite criminal activities: i.e. "the magic bullet (JFK assassination)" :) and "the pancake effect (9/11)" :)

Ok, ok, maybe they've never really given us any real respect as critical thinkers, but I quite agree with you that government propaganda has now reached absolutely farcical levels of idiocy over the last several years and is now completely and utterly detached from any actual "physical reality" on planet earth.

Jean , August 18, 2018 at 2:25 pm

Right?

How desperate are they?

How is the Steele dossier and Professor Stefan Halper playing there?Just curiosity

[Aug 24, 2018] The priorities of the deep state and its public face the MSM

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Trump is being promoted by the MSM as the leader of the deplorables – an orange straw man. I support him to the degree that he is confounding the deep state elites and social engineering. ..."
Aug 24, 2018 | thenewkremlinstooge.wordpress.com

PATIENT OBSERVER August 23, 2018 at 5:19 pm

Here is my take on the priorities of the deep state and its public face – the MSM:

  1. stopping the deplorable rebellion
  2. cutting off the head of the rebellion – perceived as Trump
  3. reinstating the Cold War in an effort to derail Rusisa's recovery and international leadership role
  4. bitch slapping China

The rest involves turning unsustainable debt into establishment of a feudal world comprised of elites living on Mount Olympus, legions of vassals and a vast sea of cerebrally castrated peasants to serve as a reservoir for any imaginable exploitation.

Won't happen, not even close.

PATIENT OBSERVER August 23, 2018 at 7:29 pm

Upon further reflection, Trump is being promoted by the MSM as the leader of the deplorables – an orange straw man. I support him to the degree that he is confounding the deep state elites and social engineering.

[Aug 24, 2018] Brennan was caught spying on the Senate Intelligence Commitee, subsequently lied about it and allegedly directed personnel under his command to lie about to the Senate and the IG

Notable quotes:
"... Brennan was caught spying on the Senate Intelligence Commitee in violation of the Constitution and subsequently lied about it and allegedly directed personnel under his command to lie about to the Senate and the IG ..."
"... Congress fears the intelligence agencies and takes orders from them, not the other way around as envisaged in the constitution or spelled out in legislation. ..."
"... Let Trump try to control the agencies by firing all of their top officers, slashing their budgets, freezing their funds or shutting down their operations, even specific projects, and watch congress come to their rescue in a New York minute. ..."
"... Congress will save any significant component of intel or the pentagon before they'd rescue Social Security or any other social program. If pressed for an answer as to which of the "usual suspects" really whacked Kennedy, I suspect most folks would put their money on the CIA, the FBI or some combination of the major intel agencies. ..."
"... The neoliberal globalists, I fear, have taken that phrase "drowning government in the bathtub" all too literally. ..."
Aug 24, 2018 | consortiumnews.com

GM August 16, 2018 at 10:22 pm

Brennan was caught spying on the Senate Intelligence Commitee in violation of the Constitution and subsequently lied about it and allegedly directed personnel under his command to lie about to the Senate and the IG

He could easily be brought up on rather serious charges.

Abby , August 18, 2018 at 11:23 pm

He also leaked classified information to the press as did others and they could have been prosecuted under the espionage act. They will be losing their security clearances soon too. The information that they leaked was the NSA information on Flynn to the Washington post. But of course the Obama justice department only prosecuted people who exposed Washington's dirty secrets.

Realist , August 17, 2018 at 1:21 am

Yes, what Kenneth might like to see happen may be admirable but not going to happen in 2018 or 19, which is practically a different universe from 1975 and for exactly the reasons you specify. This country and its self-appointed minders have changed massively in 45 years. Besides, 1975 was a year after Watergate was finally resolved with Nixon and Agnew's resignations and Congress may have been feeling its oats, going so far as to defund the Vietnam war! Imagine defunding ANY of the multiple wars ongoing!

Congress fears the intelligence agencies and takes orders from them, not the other way around as envisaged in the constitution or spelled out in legislation. Schumer let that feline out of the sack when he warned the president not to mess with them.

Let Trump try to control the agencies by firing all of their top officers, slashing their budgets, freezing their funds or shutting down their operations, even specific projects, and watch congress come to their rescue in a New York minute.

We saw how the CIA worked around congressionally-imposed budgetary restraints in Iran-Contra: by secretly running drugs from Columbia to LA, selling arms to Iran and using the proceeds to fund death squads in Central America. Congress didn't have the guts to take that investigation to it logical conclusion of impeachments and/or indictments. Why?

Congress will save any significant component of intel or the pentagon before they'd rescue Social Security or any other social program. If pressed for an answer as to which of the "usual suspects" really whacked Kennedy, I suspect most folks would put their money on the CIA, the FBI or some combination of the major intel agencies.

Unfettered Fire , August 17, 2018 at 12:11 pm

The neoliberal globalists, I fear, have taken that phrase "drowning government in the bathtub" all too literally.

Rosa Brooks' book How War Became Everything and Everything Became the Military exposes the vast expansion and added responsibilities of the MIC, as governmental departments continue to be dismantled and privatized.

She even said in a book circuit lecture that she thought the idea of Congress "declaring war" was antiquated and cute. Well, how long will it be when the very hollowed out structures of Capitol Hill and the White House are considered antiquated and cute?

What if the plan all along has been to fold up this whole democratic experiment and move HQ into some new multi-billion dollar Pentagon digs?

Remember the words of Strobe Talbott:

"Within the next hundred years nationhood as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."

This nation had better wake up fast if it wants to salvage the currency authorizing power of government and restore its role in the economy, before it's no longer an option and the private bankers, today's money lenders in the temple, govern for good.

"The bank strategy continues: "If we can privatize the economy, we can turn the whole public sector into a monopoly. We can treat what used to be the government sector as a financial monopoly. Instead of providing free or subsidized schooling, we can make people pay $50,000 to get a college education, or $50,000 just to get a grade school education if families choose to go to New York private schools. We can turn the roads into toll roads. We can charge people for water, and we can charge for what used to be given for free under the old style of Roosevelt capitalism and social democracy."

This idea that governments should not create money implies that they shouldn't act like governments. Instead, the de facto government should be Wall Street. Instead of governments allocating resources to help the economy grow, Wall Street should be the allocator of resources – and should starve the government to "save taxpayers" (or at least the wealthy). Tea Party promoters want to starve the government to a point where it can be "drowned in the bathtub."

But if you don't have a government that can fund itself, then who is going to govern, and on whose terms? The obvious answer is, the class with the money: Wall Street and the corporate sector. They clamor for a balanced budget, saying, "We don't want the government to fund public infrastructure. We want it to be privatized in a way that will generate profits for the new owners, along with interest for the bondholders and the banks that fund it; and also, management fees. Most of all, the privatized enterprises should generate capital gains for the stockholders as they jack up prices for hitherto public services.

You can see how to demoralize a country if you can stop the government from spending money into the economy. That will cause austerity, lower living standards and really put the class war in business. So what Trump is suggesting is to put the class war in business, financially, with an exclamation point."

http://michael-hudson.com/2017/03/why-deficits-hurt-banking-profits/

[Aug 23, 2018] What the Brennan Affair Really Reveals by Stephen Cohen

"My strong suspicion is that 'Russiagate' is a kind of nemesis, arising from the fact that key figures in British and American intelligence have, over a protracted period of time, got involved in intrigues where they are way out of their depth. The unintended consequences of these have meant that people like Brennan and Younger, and also Hannigan, have ended up having to resort to desperate measures to cover their backsides."
Brennan exposed "intelligence community" as a forth branch of government. The branch more powerful that then the other three combined.
Assume, for the sake of argument, that powerful, connected people in the intelligence community and in politics worried that a wildcard Trump presidency, unlike another Clinton or Bush, might expose a decade-plus of questionable practices. Disrupt long-established money channels. Reveal secret machinations that could arguably land some people in prison.
The main suspicion is that Steele's involvement may have been less in crafting the dossier, than making it possible to conceal its actual origins while giving it an appearance of credibility. It could also be the case that Nellie Ohr's sudden interest in radio transmissions had to do with communications inside the United States, rather than with Steele.
Notable quotes:
"... Los Angeles Times ..."
"... New York Times ..."
"... It's a misnomer to term these people representatives of a hidden "deep state." In recent years, they have been amply visible on television and newspaper op-ed pages. Instead, they see and present themselves as members of a fully empowered and essential fourth branch of government. ..."
"... The Washington Post ..."
"... To be fair, Brennan may only be a symptom of this profound American crisis, some say the worst since the Civil War. ..."
Aug 23, 2018 | www.thenation.com

Brennan's allegation was unprecedented. No such high-level intelligence official had ever before accused a sitting president of treason, still more in collusion with the Kremlin. (Impeachment discussions of Presidents Nixon and Clinton, to take recent examples, did not include allegations involving Russia.) Brennan clarified his charge : "Treasonous, which is to betray one's trust and to aid and abet the enemy." Coming from Brennan, a man presumed to be in possession of related dark secrets, as he strongly hinted , the charge was fraught with alarming implications. Brennan made clear he hoped for Trump's impeachment, but in another time, and in many other countries, his charge would suggest that Trump should be removed from the presidency urgently by any means, even a coup. No one, it seems, has even noted this extraordinary implication with its tacit threat to American democracy. (Perhaps because the disloyalty allegation against Trump has been customary ever since mid-2016, even before he became president, when an array of influential publications and writers -- among them a former acting CIA director -- began branding him Putin's "puppet," "agent," "client," and "Manchurian candidate." The Los Angeles Times even saw fit to print an article suggesting that the military might have to remove Trump if he were to be elected, thereby having the very dubious distinction of predating Brennan.)

Why did Brennan, a calculating man, risk leveling such a charge, which might reasonably be characterized as sedition? The most plausible explanation is that he sought to deflect growing attention to his role as the "Godfather" of the entire Russiagate narrative, as Cohen argued back in February. If so, we need to know Brennan's unvarnished views on Russia.

They are set out with astonishing (perhaps unknowing) candor in a New York Times op-ed of August 17. They are those of Joseph McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover in their prime. Western "politicians, political parties, media outlets, think tanks and influencers are readily manipulated, wittingly and unwittingly, or even bought outright, by Russian operatives not only to collect sensitive information but also to distribute propaganda and disinformation. I was well aware of Russia's ability to work surreptitiously within the United States, cultivating relationships with individuals who wield actual or potential power. These Russian agents are well trained in the art of deception. They troll political, business and cultural waters in search of gullible or unprincipled individuals who become pliant in the hands of their Russian puppet masters. Too often, those puppets are found." All this, Brennan assures readers, is based on his "deep insight." All the rest of us, it seems, are constantly susceptible to "Russian puppet masters" under our beds, at work, on our computers. Clearly, there must be no "cooperation" with the Kremlin's grand "Puppet Master," as Trump said he wanted early on. (People who wonder what and when Obama knew about the unfolding Russiagate saga need to ask why he would keep such a person so close for so long.)

And yet, scores of former intelligence and military officials rallied around this unvarnished John Brennan, even though, they said, they did not entirely share his opinions. This too is revealing. They did so, it seems clear enough, out of their professional corporate identity, which Brennan represented and Trump was degrading by challenging the intelligences agencies' (implicitly including his own) Russiagate allegations against him. It's a misnomer to term these people representatives of a hidden "deep state." In recent years, they have been amply visible on television and newspaper op-ed pages. Instead, they see and present themselves as members of a fully empowered and essential fourth branch of government. This too has gone largely undiscussed while nightingales of the fourth branch -- such as David Ignatius and Joe Scarborough in the pages of the The Washington Post -- have been in full voice.

The result is, of course -- and no less ominous -- to criminalize any advocacy of "cooperating with Russia," or détente, as Trump sought to do in Helsinki with Putin. Still more, a full-fledged Russophobic hysteria is sweeping through the American political-media establishment, from Brennan and -- pending actual evidence against her -- those who engineered the arrest of Maria Butina (imagine how this endangers young Americans networking in Russia) to the senators now preparing new "crippling sanctions" against Moscow and the editors and producers at the Times , Post , CNN, and MSNBC. (However powerful, how representative are these elites when surveys indicate that a majority of the American people still prefer good relations with Moscow?)

As the dangers grow of actual war with Russia -- again, from Ukraine and the Baltic region to Syria -- the capacity of US policy-makers, above all the president, are increasingly diminished. To be fair, Brennan may only be a symptom of this profound American crisis, some say the worst since the Civil War.

Finally, there was a time when many Democrats, certainly liberal Democrats, could be counted on to resist this kind of hysteria and, yes, spreading neo-McCarthyism. (Brennan's defenders accuse Trump of McCarthyism, but Brennan's charge of treason without presenting any actual evidence was quintessential McCarthy.) After all, civil liberties, including freedom of speech, are directly involved -- and not only Brennan's and Trump's. But Democratic members of Congress and pro-Democratic media outlets are in the forefront of the new anti-Russian hysteria, with only a few exceptions. Thus a generally liberal historian tells CNN viewers that "Brennan is an American hero. His tenure at the CIA was impeccable. We owe him so much." Elsewhere the same historian assures readers , "There has always been a bipartisan spirit of support since the CIA was created in the Cold War." In the same vein, two Post reporters write of the FBI's " once venerated reputation ."

[Aug 22, 2018] In Spies Battle, Trump Holds the High Ground by Pat Buchanan

Notable quotes:
"... At bottom, the issue is: Who speaks for America? Is it the mainstream media, the deep state, the permanent government, the city that gave Trump 4 percent of its votes? Or is it that vast slice of Middle America that sent Trump to drain the swamp? ..."
"... For Trump, a truce or a negotiated peace with these people is never going to happen. But this issue of security clearances is a battlefield where the president cannot lose, if he fights wisely. ..."
"... its way past time that Trump start the sacking of the "disloyal" in the security/intelligence agencies. Yes, he may need to move cautiously -- smaller fish first, perhaps ? But, to repeat: "For Trump, a truce or a negotiated peace with these people is never going to happen, just like in the movies." ..."
"... Its interesting to see how shielded the Dem party is from voters. First is their use of Caucuses which uniformly went with Obama over Hillary in 2008 – they represent a quasi church. Then there are the super delegates, the money wranglers and blue bubble potentates that decide who wins a nomination. ..."
"... there are the two factions of the ruling dynasties, Bush and Clinton, that are seeded into the deep state. It should be noted that Bill and Hillary are personally worth $300M and have a family foundation that controls $2.5B in tax free funds. They could only have done that by selling America under the protection of Deep State. Finally, there is Manhattan Media which is the King Maker with its air cover ..."
"... Of those 4 million Americans holding Top Secret clearances, how many also hold dual citizenship? ..."
"... It's not complicated. I was surprised to find that these spy bureaucrats apparently remain cleared after leaving government "service" in one way or another. Obviously, big-boy swamp creatures have their privileges. They should have them no more. If the orange clown can't handle that, I don't see what use he is for anything else, either. ..."
"... If you need to know or have access to something, then you will require clearance according to what you will have access in accordance with your work level. Some times, it is better not to know somethings, believe me. ..."
Aug 22, 2018 | www.unz.com

The White House statement of Sarah Huckabee Sanders on John Brennan's loss of his clearances was spot on:

"Any access granted to our nation's secrets should be in furtherance of national, not personal, interests.

"Mr. Brennan has recently leveraged his status as a former high-ranking official with access to highly sensitive information to make a series of unfounded and outrageous allegations -- wild outbursts on the Internet and television -- about this administration. Mr. Brennan's lying and recent conduct, characterized by increasingly frenzied commentary, is wholly inconsistent with access to the nation's most closely held secrets, and facilitates the very aim of our adversaries, which is to sow division and chaos."

Trump is said to be evaluating pulling the security clearances of Clapper, ex-FBI Director James Comey, former CIA Director Michael Hayden, former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, former FBI counterintelligence official Peter Strzok and former FBI lawyer Lisa Page.

This is a good start. Some of these individuals have been fired. Some are under investigation. Some were involved in the FBI's "get-Trump" cabal to prevent his election and then to abort his presidency.

... ... ...

At bottom, the issue is: Who speaks for America? Is it the mainstream media, the deep state, the permanent government, the city that gave Trump 4 percent of its votes? Or is it that vast slice of Middle America that sent Trump to drain the swamp?

Trump's enemies, and they are legion, want to see Robert Mueller charge him with collusion with Russia and obstructing the investigation of that collusion. They want to see the Democratic Party take over the House in November, and the Senate, and move on to impeach and remove Trump from office. Then they want to put him where Paul Manafort sits today.

For Trump, a truce or a negotiated peace with these people is never going to happen. But this issue of security clearances is a battlefield where the president cannot lose, if he fights wisely.

Americans sense that these are privileges that should be extended to those who protect us, not perks for former officials to exploit and monetize while they attempt to bring down the commander in chief.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, "Nixon's White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever."


animalogic , says: August 21, 2018 at 9:26 am GMT

A neutral observation on political expediency: its way past time that Trump start the sacking of the "disloyal" in the security/intelligence agencies. Yes, he may need to move cautiously -- smaller fish first, perhaps ? But, to repeat: "For Trump, a truce or a negotiated peace with these people is never going to happen, just like in the movies."

anonymous , [340] Disclaimer says: August 21, 2018 at 9:58 am GMT

OK, I admit that I haven't researched it myself. But shouldn't a column on this topic state briefly what a "security clearance" is and explain what is had enabled Mr. Brennan, once he left government employ, to access? Is it like a password or something? What is the practical effect of its revocation?

"With 4 million Americans holding top-secret clearances," this sounds like the Battle of Molehill Mountain. Thanks to anyone who helps to provide some context.

Sally Snyder , says: August 21, 2018 at 11:28 am GMT

Here is a look at a unique that shows us why Americans voted for Donald Trump in 2016: https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2018/08/why-did-americans-vote-for-donald-trump.html

Given the demographic changes that the United States is experiencing, it is quite likely that populist political candidates will continue to play on voters' perceptions of vulnerability.

Stick , says: August 21, 2018 at 2:05 pm GMT

Its interesting to see how shielded the Dem party is from voters. First is their use of Caucuses which uniformly went with Obama over Hillary in 2008 – they represent a quasi church. Then there are the super delegates, the money wranglers and blue bubble potentates that decide who wins a nomination.

Then there are the two factions of the ruling dynasties, Bush and Clinton, that are seeded into the deep state. It should be noted that Bill and Hillary are personally worth $300M and have a family foundation that controls $2.5B in tax free funds. They could only have done that by selling America under the protection of Deep State. Finally, there is Manhattan Media which is the King Maker with its air cover. Its like we are ruled by a House of Lords answerable only to Manhattan Privilege, the owners and operators of multinational entertainment companies. This is what Trump beat. His presidency is truly a miracle.

SolontoCroesus , says: August 21, 2018 at 2:41 pm GMT

Of those 4 million Americans holding Top Secret clearances, how many also hold dual citizenship?

Per/Norway , says: August 21, 2018 at 8:15 pm GMT
@anonymous

https://www.state.gov/m/ds/clearances/c10978.htm

Per/Norway , says: August 21, 2018 at 8:22 pm GMT
@Anon

+ all the living expresidents whose kill list is huge and let us not forget the dead ones
your country have been at war over 200 years since its creation. so how American dare use the old muuh "commies killed a gazillion of people" is not easy to understand tbh.
but i guess hubris, propaganda and no knowledge about the world plays a big part

Reactionary Utopian , says: August 21, 2018 at 8:33 pm GMT
@anonymous

OK, I admit that I haven't researched it myself. But shouldn't a column on this topic state briefly what a "security clearance" is and explain what is had enabled Mr. Brennan, once he left government employ, to access? Is it like a password or something? What is the practical effect of its revocation?

"With 4 million Americans holding top-secret clearances," this sounds like the Battle of Molehill Mountain.

Thanks to anyone who helps to provide some context.

I held clearances at various times during my engineering career. It's very simple. If you quit or retire, your clearance evaporates instantly. If, within your job, you are assigned to work that doesn't require a clearance and your employer doesn't anticipate your needing it again anytime soon, it is dropped (maintaining a clearance isn't cheap).

And, no, it isn't like a password, not really. If you want classified information, you need two things to get it: appropriate clearance, and need-to-know. The person or system from whom or which you're trying to get the information is duty-bound to verify that you have both. Obviously, for someone who's retired or been fired and is now out jacking the jaw on CNN, there is no need-to-know, and for an "ordinary" cleared person, there'd be no clearance, either.

It's not complicated. I was surprised to find that these spy bureaucrats apparently remain cleared after leaving government "service" in one way or another. Obviously, big-boy swamp creatures have their privileges. They should have them no more. If the orange clown can't handle that, I don't see what use he is for anything else, either.

anonymous , [340] Disclaimer says: August 21, 2018 at 9:41 pm GMT
@Reactionary Utopian

Thank you. I didn't appreciate that the restrictions are upon those already privy to information as part of their jobs. So, Mr. Brennan can no longer be furnished, under color of law, non-public information by sympathetic former colleagues.

I agree with the end of your comment, too.

in the middle , says: August 21, 2018 at 10:51 pm GMT
@anonymous

I did have a clearance when in the Service. Once I left, I kept it for five years I think. And it is a 'sellable' when you are looking for a job with defense contractors, Basically, it means that you could have access to the level of clearance that you have, related to what you work on. Not every one has the same level of clearances. I assume they do have Top Secret clearances of higher, because they do have access to high level stuff, and or info that is not available to others. Its called 'need to know'. If you need to know or have access to something, then you will require clearance according to what you will have access in accordance with your work level. Some times, it is better not to know somethings, believe me.

[Aug 21, 2018] Will the Real John Brennan Please Stand Up by Philip Giraldi

Notable quotes:
"... Washington Post ..."
"... Indeed, Brennan's retaining a Top Secret code word clearance had nothing to do with free speech and everything to do with enhancing his market value for those poor sods who actually pay him to mouth off as an "expert" on television and in the newspapers ..."
"... New York Times ..."
"... Even John Brennan's supporters are shy about defending the former CIA Director's more extravagant claims. James Clapper, the ex-Director of National Intelligence, has described Brennan's comments as "overheated." ..."
"... The John Brennan backstory is important. In 2016 he was Barack Obama's CIA Director and also simultaneously working quite hard to help Hillary Clinton become president, which some might regard at a minimum as a conflict of interest. After Clinton lost, he continued his attacks on Trump. He apparently played a part in the notoriously salacious Steele dossier, which was surfaced in January just before the inauguration. The dossier included unverifiable information and was maliciously promoted by Brennan and others in the intelligence and law enforcement community. And even after Trump assumed office, Brennan continued to prove to be unrelenting. ..."
"... there has to be a strong suspicion that the forwarding of at least some of that information might have been sought or possibly inspired by Brennan unofficially in the first place. ..."
"... it is clear that Brennan then used that information to request an FBI investigation into a possible Russian operation directed against potential key advisers if Trump were to somehow get nominated and elected, which admittedly was a longshot at the time. That is how Russiagate began. ..."
"... Since that time, Brennan has tweeted President Donald Trump, asserting that "When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history." He has attacked the president for congratulating President Vladimir Putin over his victory in Russian national elections. He said that the U.S. President is "wholly in the pocket of Putin," definitely "afraid of the president of Russia" and that the Kremlin "may have something on him personally. The fact that he has had this fawning attitude toward Mr. Putin continues to say to me that he does have something to fear and something very serious to fear." And he then administered what might be considered the coup de main ..."
"... New York Times ..."
"... The New York Times ..."
"... This behavior by Brennan is no surprise to those who know him and have worked with him. An ambitious crawler with a checkered history, he was strongly disliked by his peers at CIA, largely because of his lack of any sense of restraint and his reputation for over-the-top vindictiveness. He notoriously flunked out of spy training at the Agency, forcing him to instead become an analyst, so he went after the Clandestine Service in his reorganization of CIA after he became Director. ..."
"... John Brennan has always been a failure as an intelligence officer even as he successfully climbed the promotion ladder. He was the CIA's Chief of Station (COS) in Saudi Arabia when the Khobar Towers were bombed , killing 19 Americans, a disaster which he incorrectly blamed on the Iranians. He was deputy executive director on 9/11 and was complicit in that intelligence failure. He subsequently served as CIA chief of staff when his boss George Tenet concocted phony stories about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. He also approved of the Agency torture and rendition programs and was complicit in the destruction of Libya as well as the attempt to do the same to Syria. ..."
"... After Obama was re-elected in 2012, he was able to overcome objections and appoint Brennan CIA Director. Conniving as ever, Brennan then ordered the Agency to read the communications of the congressional committee then engaged in investigating CIA torture, the very program that he had been complicit in. ..."
"... Brennan then denied to Congress under oath that any such intramural spying had occurred, afterwards apologizing when the truth came out. Moon of Alabama characterizes him as " always ruthless, incompetent and dishonest." ..."
"... Indeed, he should be answerable for torture, renditions, extrajudicial killing of foreigners and targeted murder of American citizens. Those constitute war crimes and in the not too distant past Japanese and German officers were hanged for such behavior. One has to hope that Brennan's day of judgment will eventually come and he will have to pay for his multiple crimes against humanity. ..."
"... Brennan should be in prison for the lies and accusations he has made. He is as corrupt as they come. Brennan is at the center of an Obama/Clinton directed scam to discredit Trump. Trump, love him or hate him, was elected by the American people. Brennan and his ilk may not like it but that does not mean they have the right to bend the country to their collective wills. Time to throw the book at these malcontents. ..."
"... What does it say about Obama that he favored a character like Brennan? ..."
"... Paranoids project a lot and accuse others of everything dark they ( paranoids ) have inside , blaming others for their own`s paranoid violent drives ..."
"... Brennan is part of Obama's swamp that Trump promised to drain. I hope others like Susan Rice and Clapper will follow. ..."
"... Unhinged and dumb. IMHO, they're easier to manipulate by the Puppet Masters. You can't have Groton & Yale-educated types like in Allen Dulles' day because they might go off the Puppet Master playbook and start calling audibles out in the field. ..."
"... Brennan is such a small part of a massively corrupt behind the scene picture. There are probably 2000 or 3000 more who need the same treatment immediately. ..."
"... I hope the issue of whether or not the POTUS has the authority to Trump all security clearance goes to court, because if its outcome is positive for Trump, maybe Trump will Trump Bush's and Clinton clearances. That would make the job of the AG quite a bit easier. ..."
"... Brennan is an idiot. Just listen to him and watch him. And having missed the fall of the USSR, 9/11 and Iraqi WMD, why does the press suddenly hold the intelligence community in such high regard? The truth is the MSM will do anything to nail Trump not that I particularly like him although compared to HC ..."
"... On the contrary, Brennan is just the kind of person who rises up the ranks in government. And look at Gina, his successor, should she even be where she is ? ..."
"... Oh sure, we can pick on Brennan, he's a funny-looking asskisser, thick as mince, but making it all his fault obscures the blindingly obvious fact that Hillary was the institutional choice of CIA. The other CIA talking heads are distancing themselves from Brennan simply because he bends over backwards to please his Project Mockingbird producers. He's hamming it up and embarrassing them, that's all. ..."
"... CIA installed four presidents: Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, Obama. Hillary was supposed to be next but she couldn't even beat her handpicked loser asshole in a rigged election. So CIA is going berserk. Trump's war is with CIA, not Brennan. ..."
"... I am not denying Brennan's guilt. But why single out Brennan? DC is teeming with war criminals, most of which deserve the noose, rather than life in prison at our expense. . ..."
"... On the brighter side, in Dante's Inferno , the hottest circle of Hell is reserved for traitors. Hope Mr. Brennan likes warm weather. ..."
"... In a contemporary newspaper account of the creation of the OSS (forerunner of CIA) the OSS was described as "five Jews working in a converted vault in Washington DC". Described in James Bamford's "Body of Secrets". The CIA has always been Israel's club. Even before it was called CIA ..."
"... Brennan voted for the communist party as a youth. Perhaps youthful flightiness could be taken in stride but a tendency to flip-flop from one form of utopianism to another is often a lifetime trait of unstable people, much like some switch religions constantly. ..."
"... There really is a swamp to drain. There really is a lot of fake news. There really are people within our government, intelligence agencies, and media who, whether through malicious intent or just stupidity, are "enemies of the people." ..."
"... After a major air disaster with large loss of life, the standard TV reporting template is to send a news crew to the arrival airport to get coverage of the distraught relatives. On 9/11 there were 4 simultaneous air disasters with approx 500 dead. How many extended TV reports at the 4 arrival airports, with hundreds of 'grieving relatives/friends' did you see? I saw zero. ..."
"... Brennan sounds like a hog that doesn't wash itself of his own sins while he is carrying out his paymasters' wish. He thinks that he is indispensable to the powers that be he may want to remember the late Alphonse D'Amato of New York, who was chucked aside once he had used up his senatorial cudgel to extract gelt out of the Swiss banks ..."
"... It is absolutely terrifying to recognize that very many in those "elites" never became real adults in their lives and psychologically (mentally?) are still at the high school maturity level. All political tops are messy, soaked in palace intrigues and clash of egos larger than cathedrals, but this particular case is something else entirely and it has a lot to do with overall precipitous decline, both intellectual and moral, of American party and government so called "elites". ..."
"... The talking head types typically heard in US mass media are overly suspect and coddled. From the FBI, there's Frank Figluizzi and Josh Campbell. A rare exception to that spin is Tucker Carlson hosting former NSA official William Binney. ..."
"... I am not denying Brennan's guilt. But why single out Brennan? DC is teeming with war criminals, most of which deserve the noose, rather than life in prison at our expense. ..."
"... Trump is imperfect but he must be doing something right because the entire establishment is out to get him. I've never seen anything like it in my life. ..."
"... CIA Democrat Party Hack John Brennan says: "Sometimes my IRISH comes out in my Tweets." ..."
"... What Giraldi calls a "failure of intelligence" is probably about as far as most ex-CIA officer would go on 9/11, at least in public. Whether or not some part the intelligence community was actually complicit in the execution of 9/11 is another matter, though discussing it here only distracts from the main thrust of the article. ..."
"... I think we used to all think that the spooks were at least guided by some moral principles, in their goals, if not in their operations, but bozos like Brennan, Morell, Tenet, Heyden, etc, clearly show that this is not the case. ..."
"... Brennan is not the first to use hyperbole to monetize a scandal. Not the first to take advantage of his proximity to the President. And I agree with Sen Burr's statement. But that's not the point. I'm concerned by what he did as CIA director as the Trump/Russia relationship developed. ..."
"... I totally agree with you about Brennan requesting an FBI investigation. But rather than looking into non-existent Russian operations, if he were truly doing his job he should be calling for an investigation into Zion-gate ..."
Aug 21, 2018 | www.unz.com

The battle between many former intelligence chiefs and the White House is becoming a gift that keeps on giving to the mass media, which is characteristically deeply immersed in Trump derangement syndrome in attacking the president for his having stripped former CIA Director John Brennan of his security clearance. One of the most ludicrous claims , cited in the Washington Post on Sunday, was that the Trump move was intended to "stifle free speech." While I am quite prepared to believe a lot of things about the serial maladroit moves and explanations coming out of the White House, how one equates removing Brennan's security clearance to compromising his ability to speak freely escapes me. Indeed, Brennan has been speaking out with his usual vitriol nearly everywhere in the media ever since he lost the clearance, rather suggesting that his loss has given him a platform which has actually served to enhance his ability to speak his mind. He should thank Donald Trump for that.

Indeed, Brennan's retaining a Top Secret code word clearance had nothing to do with free speech and everything to do with enhancing his market value for those poor sods who actually pay him to mouth off as an "expert" on television and in the newspapers. Are you listening New York Times and NBC ? Brennan's clearance did not mean that he had any real insight into current intelligence on anything, having lost that access when he left his job with the government. It only meant that he could sound authoritative and well informed by relying on his former status, enabling him to con you media folks out of your money on a recurrent basis.

It has sometimes been suggested that free speech is best exercised when it is somehow connected to the brain's prefrontal lobes, enabling some thought process before the words come out of the mouth. It might be argued that Brennan has been remarkably deficient in that area, which is possibly why he looks so angry in all his photographs. Even John Brennan's supporters are shy about defending the former CIA Director's more extravagant claims. James Clapper, the ex-Director of National Intelligence, has described Brennan's comments as "overheated."

The John Brennan backstory is important. In 2016 he was Barack Obama's CIA Director and also simultaneously working quite hard to help Hillary Clinton become president, which some might regard at a minimum as a conflict of interest. After Clinton lost, he continued his attacks on Trump. He apparently played a part in the notoriously salacious Steele dossier, which was surfaced in January just before the inauguration. The dossier included unverifiable information and was maliciously promoted by Brennan and others in the intelligence and law enforcement community. And even after Trump assumed office, Brennan continued to prove to be unrelenting.

In May 2017, Brennan testified before Congress that during the 2016 campaign he had " encountered and [was] aware of information and intelligence that revealed contacts and interactions between Russian officials and U.S. persons involved in the Trump campaign that I was concerned about because of known Russian efforts to suborn such individuals. It raised questions in my mind whether or not Russia was able to gain the co-operation of those individuals." Politico was also in on the chase and picked up on Brennan's bombshell in an article entitled Brennan: Russia may have successfully recruited Trump campaign aides .

What Brennan did not describe, because it was "classified," was how he developed the information regarding the Trump campaign in the first place. We know from Politico and other sources that it derived from foreign intelligence services, including the British, Dutch and Estonians, and there has to be a strong suspicion that the forwarding of at least some of that information might have been sought or possibly inspired by Brennan unofficially in the first place. But whatever the provenance of the intelligence, it is clear that Brennan then used that information to request an FBI investigation into a possible Russian operation directed against potential key advisers if Trump were to somehow get nominated and elected, which admittedly was a longshot at the time. That is how Russiagate began.

Since that time, Brennan has tweeted President Donald Trump, asserting that "When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history." He has attacked the president for congratulating President Vladimir Putin over his victory in Russian national elections. He said that the U.S. President is "wholly in the pocket of Putin," definitely "afraid of the president of Russia" and that the Kremlin "may have something on him personally. The fact that he has had this fawning attitude toward Mr. Putin continues to say to me that he does have something to fear and something very serious to fear." And he then administered what might be considered the coup de main , saying that the president should be impeached for "treasonous" behavior after Trump stood next to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia at a news conference in Finland and cast doubt on the conclusion of the intelligence agencies that Moscow interfered in the 2016 presidential election.

Trump's decision to pull Brennan's clearance attracted an immediate tweeted response from the ex-CIA Director: "This action is part of a broader effort by Mr. Trump to suppress freedom of speech & punish critics. It should gravely worry all Americans, including intelligence professionals, about the cost of speaking out." He also added, in a New York Times op-ed , that "Mr. Trump's claims of no collusion [with Russia] are, in a word, hogwash," though he provided no evidence to support his claim and failed to explain how exactly one washes a hog. There has subsequently been an avalanche of suitably angry Brennan appearances all over the Sunday talk shows, a development that will undoubtedly continue for the immediate future.

The claim that Trump is a Russian agent is not a new one, having also been made repeatedly by Brennan CIA associate the grim and inscrutable Michael Morell, who flaunts his insider expertise both at The Times and on CBS. Regarding both gentlemen, one might note that it is an easy mark to allege something sensational that you don't have to prove, but the claim nevertheless constitutes a very serious assertion of criminal behavior that might well meet the Constitutional standard for treason, which comes with a death penalty. It is notable that in spite of the gravity of the charge, Brennan and Morell have been either unable or unwilling to substantiate it in any detail. Even a usually tone-deaf Congress has noted that there is a problem with Brennan's credibility on the issue, not to mention his integrity. Richard Burr, Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, has observed that

"Director Brennan's recent statements purport to know as fact that the Trump campaign colluded with a foreign power. If Director Brennan's statement is based on intelligence he received while still leading the CIA, why didn't he include it in the Intelligence Community Assessment released in 2017? If his statement is based on intelligence he has seen since leaving office, it constitutes an intelligence breach. If he has some other personal knowledge of or evidence of collusion, it should be disclosed to the Special Counsel, not The New York Times ."

This behavior by Brennan is no surprise to those who know him and have worked with him. An ambitious crawler with a checkered history, he was strongly disliked by his peers at CIA, largely because of his lack of any sense of restraint and his reputation for over-the-top vindictiveness. He notoriously flunked out of spy training at the Agency, forcing him to instead become an analyst, so he went after the Clandestine Service in his reorganization of CIA after he became Director.

John Brennan has always been a failure as an intelligence officer even as he successfully climbed the promotion ladder. He was the CIA's Chief of Station (COS) in Saudi Arabia when the Khobar Towers were bombed , killing 19 Americans, a disaster which he incorrectly blamed on the Iranians. He was deputy executive director on 9/11 and was complicit in that intelligence failure. He subsequently served as CIA chief of staff when his boss George Tenet concocted phony stories about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. He also approved of the Agency torture and rendition programs and was complicit in the destruction of Libya as well as the attempt to do the same to Syria.

Barack Obama wanted Brennan to be his CIA Director but his record with the Agency torture and rendition programs made approval by the Senate problematical. Instead, he became the president's homeland security advisor and deputy national security advisor for counterterrorism, where he did even more damage, expanding the parameters of the death by drone operations and sitting down with the POTUS for the Tuesday morning counterterrorism sessions spent refining the kill list of American citizens.

After Obama was re-elected in 2012, he was able to overcome objections and appoint Brennan CIA Director. Conniving as ever, Brennan then ordered the Agency to read the communications of the congressional committee then engaged in investigating CIA torture, the very program that he had been complicit in.

Brennan then denied to Congress under oath that any such intramural spying had occurred, afterwards apologizing when the truth came out. Moon of Alabama characterizes him as " always ruthless, incompetent and dishonest."

So the real John Brennan emerges as an unlikely standard bearer for the First Amendment. He has an awful lot of baggage and is far from the innocent victim of a madman Trump that is being portrayed in much of the media. Indeed, he should be answerable for torture, renditions, extrajudicial killing of foreigners and targeted murder of American citizens. Those constitute war crimes and in the not too distant past Japanese and German officers were hanged for such behavior. One has to hope that Brennan's day of judgment will eventually come and he will have to pay for his multiple crimes against humanity.


Taras77 , says: August 21, 2018 at 4:42 am GMT

The question seems stark to me as to how in the hell did brennan ever get accepted by the cia in the first place. Was he vetted all? With his psychological makeup, his past political affiliations (or inclinations), he seems from the outside as a candidate mostly likely to be rejected out of hand beyond the first step.

And then we have his rise through the ranks to Director-one could ask WTF? Who were his handlers?

abbybwood , says: August 21, 2018 at 4:47 am GMT

Perhaps Mr. Brennan is guilty of using the psychological tactic of "projection" against President Trump? All the things he accuses President Trump of ("treason" perhaps), he is actually guilty of himself.

The Alarmist , says: August 21, 2018 at 5:38 am GMT

How an admitted supporter of CPUSA and Gus Hall voter even got past the SBI investigation is enough to mystify one. He must have had strong supporters and the top of the house in his young days.

Snarky , says: August 21, 2018 at 5:51 am GMT

"He was deputy executive director on 9/11 and was complicit in that intelligence failure."

Shame on you Philip. Years of research has convinced me that it was not a failure at all but rather one of their greatest hits. I usually like your commentary but salting your rhetoric with lies to promote the false CIA narrative is not acceptable.
AMF

Mikhail , says: Website August 21, 2018 at 6:10 am GMT

JB comes across as a liar, with a bigoted and flawed moral superiority complex, when it comes to Russia. Related is this piece from not too long ago: https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/01/11/misreading-trump-putin-and-us-russian-relations.html

Excerpt –

The PBS NewsHour segment with CIA Director John Brennan, included this quote from him:

" We see what he has done in places like Crimea and Ukraine and in Syria. he tends to flex muscles, not just on himself, but also in terms of Russia's military capabilities. He plays by his own rules in terms of what it is that he does in some of these theaters of conflict.

So I don't think we underestimated him. He has sought to advance Russia's interests in areas where there have been political vacuums and conflicts. But he doesn't ascribe to the same types of rules that we do, for example, in law of armed conflict. What the Russians have done in Syria in terms of some of the scorched-earth policy that they have pursued that have led to devastation and thousands upon thousands of innocent deaths, that's not something that the United States would ever do in any of these military conflicts."

Own rules as in what Turkey has done in northern Cyprus and the Clinton led NATO in Kosovo? It was a shameful example of journalism on the part of PBS to let Brennan's comments go unchallenged. PBS had earlier run a pro-CrowdStrike feature. It's not as if there aren't any expert cyber security/ intelligence sources offering a different perspective.

As for the devastation of thousands of civilians during war (raised by Brennan), consider some past US actions like what happened in Japan during WW II, the Cold War activity in Southeast Asia, as well as post-Cold War actions in Afghanistan and Iraq. The collateral damage emphasis has been hypocritically applied. Along with the subjectively dubious comments of Hayden and Nance, the above excerpted comments from Brennan are indicative of a (past and present) politicized element within US Intel.

Ilyana_Rozumova , says: August 21, 2018 at 6:44 am GMT

Not very outstanding personality, He had his moment on the sun when Libyan and Syrian war crimes by Hillary and Obama were prepared. He is now in the shade and his brain is feed for mold and mildew.

jilles dykstra , says: August 21, 2018 at 7:27 am GMT

Forgot who said 'according to Neurenberg standards any USA president could have been hanged'.

Jack Rauber , says: August 21, 2018 at 7:49 am GMT

Brennan should be in prison for the lies and accusations he has made. He is as corrupt as they come. Brennan is at the center of an Obama/Clinton directed scam to discredit Trump. Trump, love him or hate him, was elected by the American people. Brennan and his ilk may not like it but that does not mean they have the right to bend the country to their collective wills. Time to throw the book at these malcontents.

Greg Bacon , says: Website August 21, 2018 at 8:07 am GMT

"When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history."

Methinks Brennan was looking in the mirror when he first mouthed that truth, which is actually about the former CIA Director. Why these intelligence people maintain that Top Secret(TS) clearance after they retire, resign or get tossed during a change in the WH is beyond me. It's great for them, as they can burnish that TS as credentials when getting hired by CNN or FOX to blather on about something, usually enhancing some lie or propaganda those pseudo-news outlets are promoting.

But the bigger problem is that some or maybe many are Israel-Firsters, who have loyalty to that Apartheid nightmare and most likely pass on info to their Israeli buddies that they should not have gotten.

That is called treason and is one more reason why their TS clearance should be revoked when they leave government work.

anonymous , [340] Disclaimer says: August 21, 2018 at 9:08 am GMT

A powerful, pointed essay to be shared widely. That Mr. Brennan's shameful acts listed here go back to the last Bush presidency can also help to enlighten those still gulled by the Red/Blue puppet show.

The notion that anyone high up in the CIA might ever be convicted of war crimes under the rule of Imperial Washington, though, is sadly laughable. Notice that Senator Burr still refers to Mr. Brennan as "Director Brennan." The way these people think of themselves is not only annoying, but maintains a system in which they're above the law.

One suggested edit: " Japanese and German officers were [hanged] for such behavior."

Thank you, Mr. Giraldi and Mr. Unz.

Z-man , says: August 21, 2018 at 10:13 am GMT

I'm waiting for Clapper and the rest to be so excised. But Clapper has now pushed back at Brennan so Trump might give him a pass. (Grin)

Antiwar7 , says: August 21, 2018 at 10:18 am GMT

What does it say about Obama that he favored a character like Brennan?

Habibi , says: August 21, 2018 at 10:54 am GMT
@abbybwood

Paranoids project a lot and accuse others of everything dark they ( paranoids ) have inside , blaming others for their own`s paranoid violent drives .

Once I read that Brennan converted to Islam , when he was serving in Saudi , is true ?? Habibi Brennan ? anyway he looks like a camel driver .

fnn , says: August 21, 2018 at 10:55 am GMT

Why does the CIA hire unhinged people like Brennan and Philip Mudd?

Philip Giraldi , says: August 21, 2018 at 11:09 am GMT
@fnn

Dunno but it also hires good people like Bob Baer, Ray McGovern and John Kiriakou!

Nobel Prize , says: August 21, 2018 at 11:10 am GMT
@Antiwar7

Obama favored the Muslim Brotherhood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood. The Nobel Prize of " peace " winner bombed a few arab countries from Libia to Afganistan , and organized " color revolutions " ( coups d` Etat ) in many other arab and non arab countries . Obama provoked millions of arabs refugees escaping from wars and invading Europe . Obama provoked the coup d`Etat and war in Ukraina

https://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-was-behind-ukraine-coup-obama-admits-that-us-brokered-a-deal-in-support-of-regime-change/5429142

etc .

Frankie P , says: August 21, 2018 at 11:33 am GMT
@jilles dykstra

That was Noam Chomsky, I believe.

EagleEye , says: August 21, 2018 at 11:54 am GMT

Great article Philip, as usual. I am your biggest fan ..roasting here in the south of Turkey watching the unfolding debacle on par with the suns relentlessness.

jilles dykstra , says: August 21, 2018 at 12:18 pm GMT

" He was deputy executive director on 9/11 and was complicit in that intelligence failure. "

Is meant here that for some reason that I still do not understand the plotters failed to make use of the hijacked planes to fly into the towers, the Pentagon and into Camp David ? In my usual immodest opinion Sept 11 was blundering along, so that two other planes than the 'hijacked' ones flew into the towers, the first had some bulge under the plane, the second had no windows, what flew into the Pentagon was something small, and the Pennsylvania plane 'atomised' in mid air, according to the coroner.

But, with a complete failure, I must admit that the improvisation was not bad, and had success, with help of the USA's media. BTW, on a German site is explained what profit the Jewish owners of the Towers made, $ five billion, seen in Germany by the insurer, Allianz, as insurance fraud. In order to be able to pay Allianz fired 3000 employees. Alas, the article has disappeared, too shocking, maybe.

Virgile , says: August 21, 2018 at 12:46 pm GMT

Brennan is part of Obama's swamp that Trump promised to drain. I hope others like Susan Rice and Clapper will follow.

Dolton Boy , says: August 21, 2018 at 12:51 pm GMT
@Taras77

You are assuming a level of competence on the CIA. No one there predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union, they said Iraq had WMDs, and now made up this nonsense about Trump. They are the same folks who brought us the Bay of Pigs more than half a century ago. Too bad Kennedy didn't get to break them up into a million pieces and scatter them in the wind like he wanted to do.

Anonymous , [266] Disclaimer says: August 21, 2018 at 12:53 pm GMT
@fnn

Why does the CIA hire unhinged people like Brennan and Philip Mudd?

Unhinged and dumb. IMHO, they're easier to manipulate by the Puppet Masters. You can't have Groton & Yale-educated types like in Allen Dulles' day because they might go off the Puppet Master playbook and start calling audibles out in the field.

DESERT FOX , says: August 21, 2018 at 12:55 pm GMT

Saying as Giraldi did that 911 was a failure of intelligence is a coverup for the fact that Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state did 911 and Giraldi and every thinking America knows that Israel and the deep state did it and got away with it.

Brennan and the majority of the deep state are under Zionist control and the fact that they let Israel and the Zionists get away with 911 means that Brennan and every one of the 17 intel agencies that had knowledge of 911 is a traitor to America and the fact that Israel got away with killing 3000 Americans proves that Zionists and Israel have total control of every facet of the U.S. government.

May God help America as we are a captive nation of zionists.

MLK , says: August 21, 2018 at 12:57 pm GMT

You're quite right McGovern and Kiriakou. You couldn't be more wrong on Baer -- he belongs to Hillary:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/12/10/robert-baer-new-election-russia-hacking-nr.cnn

Michael Kenny , says: August 21, 2018 at 1:02 pm GMT

I don't think this has anything to do with free speech. Trump is panicking and lashing out wildly in all directions.

anonymous , [157] Disclaimer says: August 21, 2018 at 1:03 pm GMT
@Snarky

Who's to say that 2 loads of jet fuel can't soften steel in 3 buildings?

anonymous , [340] Disclaimer says: August 21, 2018 at 1:15 pm GMT
@Greg Bacon

Already posted under the current Buchanan column, but more likely to learn something here:

OK, I admit that I haven't researched it myself. But shouldn't a column on this topic state briefly what a "security clearance" is and explain what is had enabled Mr. Brennan, once he left government employ, to access? Is it like a password or something? What is the practical effect of its revocation?

"With 4 million Americans holding top-secret clearances [Buchanan]," this sounds like the Battle of Molehill Mountain.

Thanks to anyone who helps to provide some context.

anon , [317] Disclaimer says: August 21, 2018 at 1:26 pm GMT
@Taras77

Brennan is such a small part of a massively corrupt behind the scene picture. There are probably 2000 or 3000 more who need the same treatment immediately.

Trumping security clearance at termination from any job that requires them; in government, military or in the private sector, should be automatic, without exception. Trump all non active or non essential clearances would reduce the power of and the number of corporate lobbyist, private mercenaries, global gun slingers and creators of the privately owned 24/7 promoted, highly spied on fake news stories and many corrupt crossboard activities..

I hope the issue of whether or not the POTUS has the authority to Trump all security clearance goes to court, because if its outcome is positive for Trump, maybe Trump will Trump Bush's and Clinton clearances. That would make the job of the AG quite a bit easier.

This idea of trumping security clearances has some real promise as a way to restore some modicum of democracy in the USA. But Trumping Security Clearance should be rule based. Trump needs to issue a presidential order.. worded something like this. All security clearances in the USA are issued on a as needed basis, and shall terminate as soon as the need is resolved, or the person holding the clearance is terminated from the job for which the clearance was issued.

JoaoAlfaiate , says: August 21, 2018 at 1:34 pm GMT

Brennan is an idiot. Just listen to him and watch him. And having missed the fall of the USSR, 9/11 and Iraqi WMD, why does the press suddenly hold the intelligence community in such high regard? The truth is the MSM will do anything to nail Trump not that I particularly like him although compared to HC .

Moi , says: August 21, 2018 at 2:01 pm GMT
@Taras77

On the contrary, Brennan is just the kind of person who rises up the ranks in government. And look at Gina, his successor, should she even be where she is ?

Moi , says: August 21, 2018 at 2:07 pm GMT
@fnn

Read "Catch=22." It's the reason why Yossarian can't leave the military.

Center for Study of the Obvious , says: August 21, 2018 at 2:08 pm GMT

Oh sure, we can pick on Brennan, he's a funny-looking asskisser, thick as mince, but making it all his fault obscures the blindingly obvious fact that Hillary was the institutional choice of CIA. The other CIA talking heads are distancing themselves from Brennan simply because he bends over backwards to please his Project Mockingbird producers. He's hamming it up and embarrassing them, that's all.

You don't get near the White House without doing lots of favors for CIA. Trump laundered money for the CIA agents who looted Russia. Hillary was of course senior Nomenklatura and next in line. Cord Meyer recruited her husband at Oxford, and she helped frame Nixon with CIA's Watergate burlesque (read Russ Baker.) She's the Queen of Mena.

CIA installed four presidents: Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, Obama. Hillary was supposed to be next but she couldn't even beat her handpicked loser asshole in a rigged election. So CIA is going berserk. Trump's war is with CIA, not Brennan.

AnonFromTN , says: August 21, 2018 at 2:24 pm GMT

I am not denying Brennan's guilt. But why single out Brennan? DC is teeming with war criminals, most of which deserve the noose, rather than life in prison at our expense. .

Greg Bacon , says: Website August 21, 2018 at 2:50 pm GMT
@anonymous

Maybe we should start constructing skyscrapers out of the bodies of birds, like the ones that crashed this Swedish jet?

'Russia hacked the birds': Social media mocks Swedish paranoia after birds take down fighter jet

https://www.rt.com/news/436477-sweden-russian-bird-attack/

On the brighter side, in Dante's Inferno , the hottest circle of Hell is reserved for traitors. Hope Mr. Brennan likes warm weather.

AnonFromTN , says: August 21, 2018 at 3:07 pm GMT
@Greg Bacon

He'd have a lot of company there: pretty much every American federal official in the last few decades, as well as most Russian officials who were in power from ~1989 to ~2000. That circle must be really crowded, like Washington, DC.

DaveE , says: August 21, 2018 at 3:19 pm GMT
@Taras77

In a contemporary newspaper account of the creation of the OSS (forerunner of CIA) the OSS was described as "five Jews working in a converted vault in Washington DC". Described in James Bamford's "Body of Secrets". The CIA has always been Israel's club. Even before it was called CIA.

Wally , says: August 21, 2018 at 3:33 pm GMT
@Michael Kenny

"Panicking" not. You're projecting.

'The Left needs to face reality: Trump is winning' : https://nypost.com/2018/06/30/the-left-needs-to-face-reality-trump-is-winning/

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/2018-07-21_13-12-33.jpg?itok=Z5vuW-mu

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/mrz060918-color-1-8mb_1_orig.jpg?itok=SvL_SyXx

anonymous , [341] Disclaimer says: August 21, 2018 at 3:36 pm GMT

Brennan voted for the communist party as a youth. Perhaps youthful flightiness could be taken in stride but a tendency to flip-flop from one form of utopianism to another is often a lifetime trait of unstable people, much like some switch religions constantly. Why promote someone like this to such a high position? This Russian Manchurian Candidate business is bizarre and casts doubt about his mental health. In addition there were rumors about him having converted to Islam while posted in Saudi Arabia. Just some of the usual rumor-mongering that goes on, I thought. Then I looked at him in testimony on YouTube. I was struck by his weirdly rhapsodic way of describing Islam that seemed to go beyond merely playing up to them. In addition he calls Jerusalem by the Arabic name of Al-Quds, something no one here does and seems strange for a CIA head to do that. People like this are the cream of the crop, guardians of our security and well-being?

Ludwig watzal , says: Website August 21, 2018 at 4:05 pm GMT

Brennen is one of the Most untrustworth political gangsters among the totally corrupted Amerian political class. That the fawning Media does Not dismiss this crook as an so-called expert speaks for itself. President Trump should revoke all Security clearances from the Obama crooks.

Mark Zuckerberg might be a robot , says: August 21, 2018 at 4:08 pm GMT

John Brennan is a traitor to America. At this point, this is basically undeniable to any rational observer who has assessed the verifiable details of his career. It is mind-boggling that he was ever accepted to any position within our government and the CIA. The level of incompetence within the US government and intelligence agencies is terrifying. The only good thing about this idiot's irrational blabbering in the media is that it has the potential to cause even many liberals to finally grasp how stupid, petty, and dangerous the actions of the socialist-leaning left in our government, intelligence agencies, and media are. There really is a swamp to drain. There really is a lot of fake news. There really are people within our government, intelligence agencies, and media who, whether through malicious intent or just stupidity, are "enemies of the people."

In a more just world, John Brennan would be hanged and all of America would cheer.

slapstick , says: August 21, 2018 at 4:17 pm GMT

@ jilles dykstra

Is meant here that for some reason that I still do not understand the plotters failed to make use of the hijacked planes to fly into the towers, the Pentagon and into Camp David?

There were no 'hijacked planes'. The hijack ruse was a sleight of hand distraction. It's like the old movie plane crash trick: Set up your camera to frame a hill in extreme long shot. A plane dives into the frame from the right and disappears behind the hill. The moment it goes behind the hill, special effects set off a large pyro charge and there's a huge fireball. Oh no, the plane crashed behind the hill!

Scheduled flights must have taken off with the requisite squawk codes, but where they went & who was on them if any, is anyone's guess. What's clear (in the same way it's clear Oswald wasn't sniping on Nov 22 '63) is the scheduled jets didn't fly into towers/buildings. UAV aircraft did.

After a major air disaster with large loss of life, the standard TV reporting template is to send a news crew to the arrival airport to get coverage of the distraught relatives. On 9/11 there were 4 simultaneous air disasters with approx 500 dead. How many extended TV reports at the 4 arrival airports, with hundreds of 'grieving relatives/friends' did you see? I saw zero.

Sparkon , says: August 21, 2018 at 4:27 pm GMT

A security clearance is granted on a strict need-to-know basis. I fail to see how these former ranking intelligence officials like John Brennan maintain the need-to-know after they have left public service.

When the Central Intelligence Agency was established by President Truman on September 18, 1947, one justification was that the United States had been caught off-guard by the surprise Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, and therefore it was necessary to coordinate all intelligence activities under a single head, or director, who would have direct access to the president, and there would be no more such surprises.

Of course, all that about Pearl Harbor is a cock 'n' bull story from top to bottom, just like 9/11 is. FDR knew exactly what was going on. In fact, no one had worked harder to bring it about than the President himself. Just as Stalin had been successful in tricking Hitler into attacking the Soviet Union, so too was Roosevelt successful in goading the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor. It was the plan all along: Let the enemy strike the first blow, then seize the moral high ground, from which lofty summit the enemy can be vilified and demonized with propaganda including the most astonishingly poisonous accusations, like an industrialized program in Nazi Germany to exterminate the Jews.

But Truman wasn't done yet. In 1952, he established the National Security Agency, ostensibly because the CIA was doing a poor job with communications intelligence.

Now, in the wake of 9/11–where the initial story was that we were "blindsided"– we've got 17 different intelligence agencies, with a new position created to coordinate them all. Whatever it is all these guys are doing, about the only thing we can be sure of is that they will have few problems getting the budget to do it, and instead of intelligence, we get propaganda and chaos.

Dagon Shield , says: August 21, 2018 at 4:39 pm GMT

Brennan sounds like a hog that doesn't wash itself of his own sins while he is carrying out his paymasters' wish. He thinks that he is indispensable to the powers that be he may want to remember the late Alphonse D'Amato of New York, who was chucked aside once he had used up his senatorial cudgel to extract gelt out of the Swiss banks. Trump isn't going to be either impeached or gotten rid off, simply because he works for the same crowd and the only difference between him and lowly spook is that the former is part of the ruling class, while the latter is just a peon used to distract the dumbed down public!

Andrei Martyanov , says: Website August 21, 2018 at 4:46 pm GMT
@anonymous

It is absolutely terrifying to recognize that very many in those "elites" never became real adults in their lives and psychologically (mentally?) are still at the high school maturity level. All political tops are messy, soaked in palace intrigues and clash of egos larger than cathedrals, but this particular case is something else entirely and it has a lot to do with overall precipitous decline, both intellectual and moral, of American party and government so called "elites".

Herald , says: August 21, 2018 at 5:09 pm GMT
@Taras77

Your questions have been answered by others. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that such naive questions were in fact rhetorical.

Mikhail , says: Website August 21, 2018 at 5:54 pm GMT
@MLK

I didn't quite get that about Baer as well. The only basis perhaps is that Baer might be less of a propagandist when compared to Mudd and Brennan.

The talking head types typically heard in US mass media are overly suspect and coddled. From the FBI, there's Frank Figluizzi and Josh Campbell. A rare exception to that spin is Tucker Carlson hosting former NSA official William Binney.

Mikhail , says: Website August 21, 2018 at 5:59 pm GMT
@AnonFromTN

I am not denying Brennan's guilt. But why single out Brennan? DC is teeming with war criminals, most of which deserve the noose, rather than life in prison at our expense.

I don't believe he's being singled out. Much attention is focused on him, on account of the absurd things he spews in high profile settings. He deserves to get severely rebuked, long with a good number in mass media and body politic who handle him with kid gloves.

Charles Pewitt , says: August 21, 2018 at 6:00 pm GMT

... ... ...

The CIA Must Be Abolished Immediately.

The NSA, military intelligence outfits and other groups can provide information gathering services to the United States government and the President of the United States.

John Brennan... is completely and totally representative of the kind of CIA government worker human filth that steals money from the US government while damaging the best interests of the United States.

If General George Washington and General Andrew Jackson were alive, John Brennan would be forcefully exiled from the United States for his actions against the United States of America.

Johnny Smoggins , says: August 21, 2018 at 6:49 pm GMT
@Center for Study of the Obvious

So if Trump is a CIA asset, why are they doing everything in their power to get rid of him, short of killing him (so far..)? The fact of the matter is that both Hillary and Jeb Bush were the Deep State candidates, either was supposed to win, didn't matter which as both would be puppets anyway.

Neither Bernie Sanders nor Trump were supposed to win, the Democrats did their part in getting rid of Sanders, the Republicans tried, and failed, to get rid of Trump (again, so far..)

Trump is imperfect but he must be doing something right because the entire establishment is out to get him. I've never seen anything like it in my life.

Charles Pewitt , says: August 21, 2018 at 7:07 pm GMT

CIA Democrat Party Hack John Brennan says: "Sometimes my IRISH comes out in my Tweets."

Baby Boomer Leprechaun John Brennan Is A Treasonous Rat IBDeditorials @IBDeditorials

Simply Simon , says: August 21, 2018 at 7:17 pm GMT
@Dolton Boy

Hardly anything memorable has been written about the botched CIA operation in Laos during the Vietnam War. Under the guise Air America , the CIA spent millions if not billions of dollars in a futile attempt to stop the Pathet Lao. Lots of innocent lives lost but no one held accountable at the highest levels of our government. But then again that seems to be the same story involving inept leadership and corruption in all the conflicts the US has been engaged in since WWII.

Rever , says: August 21, 2018 at 7:18 pm GMT
@Snarky

Phil only goes part of the way. 9/11 was their greatest hit. Phil knows

Herald , says: August 21, 2018 at 7:29 pm GMT
@DESERT FOX

What Giraldi calls a "failure of intelligence" is probably about as far as most ex-CIA officer would go on 9/11, at least in public. Whether or not some part the intelligence community was actually complicit in the execution of 9/11 is another matter, though discussing it here only distracts from the main thrust of the article.

chris , says: August 21, 2018 at 7:35 pm GMT
@Taras77

Very good question, Taras!

I think we used to all think that the spooks were at least guided by some moral principles, in their goals, if not in their operations, but bozos like Brennan, Morell, Tenet, Heyden, etc, clearly show that this is not the case.

Obviously, it's only about power and being in the game; whichever way the wind blows they have to be in on it in order to apply pressure on whoever turns up on top. At no level do they even care whether the general direction is moral or criminal. They simply play all sides of the table for best agency, deep state, or personal interest – no other consideration comes even in play. The image they portray on television is as realistic as the depiction of Ozzie and Harriet was to a real marriage.

PintOrTwo , says: August 21, 2018 at 9:30 pm GMT

Trump revoking Brennan's security clearance doesn't move me. His freedom of speech is not stifled; it gives him a larger platform.

Brennan is not the first to use hyperbole to monetize a scandal. Not the first to take advantage of his proximity to the President. And I agree with Sen Burr's statement. But that's not the point. I'm concerned by what he did as CIA director as the Trump/Russia relationship developed.

... ... ...

Steve in Greensboro , says: August 21, 2018 at 10:58 pm GMT

"Will real Brennan stand up?" I'd settle for him shutting up.

geokat62 , says: August 21, 2018 at 11:26 pm GMT

It's abundantly clear to me that Director Brennan acted appropriately and the Mueller investigation is legitimate and necessary.

Abundantly clear, eh, PintOrTwo? Perhaps it was so clear to you after having a pint or two?

I expect he would "(use) that information to request an FBI investigation into a possible Russian operation directed against potential key advisers (to) Trump". To do otherwise would be egregious.

I totally agree with you about Brennan requesting an FBI investigation. But rather than looking into non-existent Russian operations, if he were truly doing his job he should be calling for an investigation into Zion-gate – i.e., the massive interference into US politics wielded by the Zionists through their network of organizations, aka The Lobby . Why concentrate on the ant when the elephant is standing right in front of you? You wouldn't be engaging in deflection, would you, PintOrTwoOrThree?

anon , [317] Disclaimer says: August 21, 2018 at 11:52 pm GMT
@Michael Kenny

... ... ..

When the state keeps a secret it subordinates the human right to know. There are very few things that reach that standard. When the state enables an abuse of a secret, it endangers everyone's freedoms and liberties.

There can be no greater abuse of free speech than state secrets, and therefore no greater duty of the state to both prove the need to keep the knowledge secret and to prevent anyone from wrongfully using or abusing the knowledge kept secret.

When someone on the inside, committed to preserving the secret in trust realizes that the trust has been abused and that the trust is regularly abused, and decides as a matter of conscious to endure the consequences, by stepping forward to disclose failures of the state with regard to the knowledge kept secret, that brave person becomes known as a whistle blower. In effect that whistle blower is speaking for all of us, he or she becomes the protector of human rights because only he or she knows, outside of the state, that the state is infringing a human right.

Human rights always trump state rights. Unless the whistle blower exposed the wrong doings or abuse, the state is left to continue its wrongdoing. Exposed, the state must explain its behavior, suffer the consequences, and protect the whistle blowers. Its unfortunate that the whistle blower is treated much like the woman abused, in court, the victim is made to look to be the criminal.

steinbergfeldwitzcohen , says: August 22, 2018 at 12:27 am GMT

Brennan is a parasite and a shitbag. The fact that someone of this 'calibre' even made topdog at CIA indicates how truly corrupt D.C. is. Pathetic.

Erebus , says: August 22, 2018 at 12:41 am GMT
@Andrei Martyanov

overall precipitous decline, both intellectual and moral, of American "elites".

I'm not sure whether, on balance, that bodes well or ill. For Americans, probably ill, but from the RoW's perspective it may simply mean that the Empire dies that much more quickly. Barring somebody doing something really stupid. EG: "Assessing" in their ignorance that they can win a nuclear exchange when they inevitably find themselves at their wit's end, of course.

NoseytheDuke , says: August 22, 2018 at 1:36 am GMT
@Simply Simon

That you don't care is evidenced by your trust in The Guardian and AP as reliable sources for news and information, I mean, fool me once and all that but dozens of times should be more than enough for anyone who does care.

Andrei Martyanov , says: Website August 22, 2018 at 1:59 am GMT
@Erebus

For Americans, probably ill

In the long run it may even be a bitter but life-saving medicine. BTW, OT–can you, please, get me to your excellent economic post about GDP "growing" while in reality shrinking. I hope you recall which one, I lost the link to it, sadly.

Squirty , says: August 22, 2018 at 2:09 am GMT

Anon (76) below is the interpretive guidance for US human rights law relating to the right to seek and obtain information – Article 18 – supreme law of the land.

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrc/docs/GC34.pdf

[Aug 19, 2018] Decoding the Deep State -- Crooked Timber

Notable quotes:
"... 'Some people have a substantive critique of Trump for furthering the fundamentally evil cause of racist US global empire, while others have a procedural critique of Trump for harming this fundamentally noble cause by carrying it out incompetently, if not a purely aesthetic critique for harming this fundamentally noble cause by making it look too gauche and uncouth. Those two styles of critique are fundamentally at odds.' ..."
"... This seems to me to be fundamentally the point. Particularly when (in the case of Russia and North Korea) the Democrats and the (majority of the) corporate media are essentially trying to outflank Trump on the Right , and the more or less complete failure of the Left to oppose in any meaningful way American machinations in Syria or Libya (with a few honourable exceptions), ..."
"... With very few exceptions (mainly on trivial issues) Trump has governed absolutely and precisely as any Republican would have done. His 'base' is almost exactly the same as Romney's ..."
"... Meanwhile the corporate media get hysterical about which apparatchik got fired or got their security clearance revoked for some reason or something and who said what to whom or whatever .it's all so boring I can scarcely type it out (and in fact I haven't). ..."
"... Considering the friendly recent exchanges between Putin and Trump, the punishment of Russia has to be viewed as something of a surprise, suggesting that the president of the United States may not be in control of his own foreign policy. ..."
"... Much of the damage to US politics over the last two years has been done by the anti-Trump media themselves, with their mood of perpetual panic and their lack of imagination. But the uncanny gift of Trump is an infectious vulgarity, and with it comes the power to make his enemies act with nearly as little self-restraint as he does. The proof is in the tweets.' ..."
Aug 18, 2018 | crookedtimber.org

Heliopause 08.17.18 at 9:00 pm (no link)

"Public statements by Trump make it clear that there wasn't, in fact, a plausible national security rationale for revoking Brennan's clearance."

This is false, the White House has released more than one statement about Brennan's lying and unhinged behavior, whether you accept them or not. And in fact Brennan has made a number of hysterically deranged statements, most notably around the time of the Putin summit, that would make even Joe McCarthy blush.

And this latest Constitutional principle that we've suddenly discovered, that a top security clearance is a form of speech, opens a large can of worms. The implications are so obvious that spelling it out seems unnecessary, I'll just note that when I get the security clearance that is my inalienable right as an American I won't be using it for my own selfish ends.

"I'm basically OK with a tactical alliance with people in the national security establishment, insofar as there are shared political interests. Trump is a disaster across many dimensions"

Got it. Our choice is either the Fuhrer or the Deputy Reichsfuhrer. Gosh, I wonder why so many Americans are disconnected from the political process

ph 08.17.18 at 11:12 pm (no link)
@4 Seems to get this right, imo. The best and simplest identification of this class of self-interested profiteers, 'patriots,'policy wonks, grifters, and their minions and water-carriers in elected office and the media was made by Eisenhower in his farewell speech.

Henry is entirely right to recognize they are as permanent as the weather, and as much a feature of life as they were during Chaucer's time. This is their world, we just live in it.

The pedigrees and connections identified in @4 exist to ensure that the public face of the corporation masquerading as an individual (to quote RN) looks and sounds 'right.'

That's what made the 44th president absolutely ideal. Even better he proved a loyal and willing servant -- expanding the Bush/Cheney security state, drone strikes, and surveillance and execution of US citizens occasionally deemed enemies of the state. 45 has fewer allies in that community, but he's proving more far more difficult to remove than many had thought. Henry is right -- this looks very much like an inside baseball story.

Whatever Trump does or does not accomplish, the profits from violence, manipulation, and duplicity via the wheels of government will remain and be one of the principal driving forces in nation-state external and internal relations for a very long time.

Hidari 08.18.18 at 6:45 am (no link)
'Some people have a substantive critique of Trump for furthering the fundamentally evil cause of racist US global empire, while others have a procedural critique of Trump for harming this fundamentally noble cause by carrying it out incompetently, if not a purely aesthetic critique for harming this fundamentally noble cause by making it look too gauche and uncouth. Those two styles of critique are fundamentally at odds.'

This seems to me to be fundamentally the point. Particularly when (in the case of Russia and North Korea) the Democrats and the (majority of the) corporate media are essentially trying to outflank Trump on the Right , and the more or less complete failure of the Left to oppose in any meaningful way American machinations in Syria or Libya (with a few honourable exceptions),

With very few exceptions (mainly on trivial issues) Trump has governed absolutely and precisely as any Republican would have done. His 'base' is almost exactly the same as Romney's.* There was no 'Trump surge'. He didn't win the election, Clinton (a weak candidate) lost it. Despite the hysteria, most of his deviations from 'the norm' have been in a more imperial direction (e.g. his desire for a stronger NATO which, rather unbelievably, was reported in the worthless media as a desire to destroy NATO). Trump's disgusting and hypocritical sanctions on Russia (which will cause much suffering of ordinary people) have, to the best of my knowledge, not been criticised by any leftist, anywhere, although the insane fantasy that he is 'soft on Russia' is quite popular (with the implication that he should be 'tougher' on Russia, maybe risking nuclear war) presumably because it fits in with the increasingly deranged Russiagate nonsense. CF also his more aggressive stance towards China (another nuclear power) which again risks nuclear war, and which has again, passed almost uncommented on in elite discourse (to be fair he follows in Obama's footsteps here).

I might add that Trump's most egregious and disgraceful departure from the 'consensus', permitting the American Embassy to move from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, has also passed more or less uncriticised, as the Democrats still instinctively obsequiously grovel to the far right Netanyahu when they get the chance, whimpering like whipped dogs (this simile is unfair to dogs).

Meanwhile the corporate media get hysterical about which apparatchik got fired or got their security clearance revoked for some reason or something and who said what to whom or whatever .it's all so boring I can scarcely type it out (and in fact I haven't).

*Almost the first thing Trump arranged was a tax cut for his rich cronies.

likbez 08.19.18 at 3:08 am ( 53 )
@Hidari 08.18.18 at 6:41 pm

Powerful post and a very clear thinking. Thank you !
Also an interesting analogy with NSDAP the 25-point Plan of 1928

Hitler's initial programme really did have a tiny element of 'socialism' in it, and some elements of the working class (shamefully) swallowed the lies and gained him votes.

But it was never real, and Hitler was never going to deliver. He dealt with the Brownshirts (the most authentically 'working class' and 'socialist' part of the Nazi movement) in the Night of the Long Knives, and from that point on, the 'socialist' parts of the Nazi programme were steadily ditched, as the regime became more and more strongly right wing throughout the '30s.

Same with Trump (in this respect only). It's true that in the run-up to the election he threw some scraps to the working class, and some of his protectionist rhetoric swung him some states in the Rust Belt. Some union supporters, to their shame, trooped along to the White House soon after.

Actually NSAP program of 1928 has some political demands which are to the left of Sanders such as "Abolition of unearned (work and labor) incomes", ".We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts)." and "We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.". Here is a sample:

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7.We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens

9.All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.

10.The first obligation of every citizen must be to productively work mentally or physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all. Consequently, we demand:

11.Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.

12.In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
13.We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

14.We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

15.We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

16.We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

17.We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

18.We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.

21.The state is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

22.We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.

23.We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press.

24.We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race...

But I think Trump was de-facto impeached with the appointment of Mueller. And that was the plan ( "insurance" as Strzok called it). Mueller task is just to formalize impeachment.

Pence already is calling the shots in foreign policy via members of his close circle (which includes Pompeo). The recent "unilateral" actions of State Department are a slap in the face and, simultaneously, a nasty trap for Trump (he can cancel those sanctions only at a huge political cost to himself) and are a clear sign that Trump does not control even his administration. Here is how Philip Giraldi described this obvious slap in the face:

The most recent is the new sanctioning of Russia over the Skripal poisoning in Salisbury England. For those not following developments, last week Washington abruptly and without any new evidence being presented, imposed additional trade sanctions on Russia in the belief that Moscow ordered and carried out the poisoning of Sergey Skripal and his daughter Yulia on March 4th. The report of the new sanctions was particularly surprising as Yulia Skripal has recently announced that she intends to return to her home in Russia, leading to the conclusion that even one of the alleged victims does not believe the narrative being promoted by the British and American governments.

Though Russian President Vladimir Putin has responded with restraint, avoiding a tit-for-tat, he is reported to be angry about the new move by the US government and now believes it to be an unreliable negotiating partner. Considering the friendly recent exchanges between Putin and Trump, the punishment of Russia has to be viewed as something of a surprise, suggesting that the president of the United States may not be in control of his own foreign policy.

From the very beginning, any anti-globalization initiative of Trump was sabotaged and often reversed. Haley is one example here. She does not coordinate some of her actions with Trump, or the Secretary of State, unliterary defining the US foreign policy.

Her ambitions worry Trump, but he can very little: she is supported by Pence and Pence faction in the administration. Rumors "Haley/Pence 2020" surfaced and probably somewhat poison atmosphere in the WH.

Add to this that Trump has hostile to him Justice Department, CIA, and FBI. He also does not control some critical appointments such as the recent appointment of CIA director (who in no way can be called Trump loyalist).

Which means that in some ways Trump already is a hostage and more a ceremonial President than a real.

Hidari 08.19.18 at 10:41 am ( 56 )
@53

'The President is very much a figurehead – he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the (people), but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it.' (Douglas Adams)

CF Also the LRB:

'Trump comports himself not as a president or even a politician, but as a reality TV host. He is a showman above all. In a process where the media are cast as reviewers, and voters as spectators, the show is getting bad reviews but doing nicely: the clear sign of success is that nobody can stop talking about the star. He keeps up the suspense with teasers and decoys and unscheduled interruptions, with changes in the sponsors and the supporting cast and production team. The way to match the Trump pace is by tweeting; but that is to play his game – a gambit the White House press corps have found irresistible. Much of the damage to US politics over the last two years has been done by the anti-Trump media themselves, with their mood of perpetual panic and their lack of imagination. But the uncanny gift of Trump is an infectious vulgarity, and with it comes the power to make his enemies act with nearly as little self-restraint as he does. The proof is in the tweets.'

https://www.lrb.co.uk/2018/08/09/david-bromwich/american-breakdown

[Aug 18, 2018] MoA - John Brennan Is No Match For Trump

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Washington Post ..."
"... Most important was " Brennan's ringleader role in the so-far unsuccessful attempts to derail Trump , both before and after the 2016 election. As far as we can tell it was Brennan who concocted and launched the conspiracy to insinuate that Trump is connected with alleged Russian influence. Brennan bet that Hillary Clinton would win the election. He lost his bet and is now out in the cold. He fears that his role, especially his conspiring with British security services and with the Steele dossier, will come to light. ..."
"... [R]unning against the deep state provides Trump a rhetorical crutch. It's a built-in excuse for failing to deliver on his 2016 campaign promises. Sitting presidents usually have to run as incumbents. Trump can try to run for re-election as an outsider. And is there a better poster boy for the alleged deep state than Brennan? ..."
"... The idiots who express solidarity with Brennan by offering up their security clearances confirm, simply by doing so, that there IS a deep state cabal that is opposed to Trump. Attacking Brennan and them will help Trump to get reelected. ..."
"... By colluding against me, the fake media proved once and for all, that they are in cahoots with the Democrats and have declared themselves to be my true political opposition ..."
"... Trump is excellent in playing his domestic opponents. Brennan made a huge mistake in publicly opposing him. He is now standing in the limelight and people will only dig further into his role in the "Russian collusion" campaign. Yesterday Brennan authored a New York Times ..."
"... Director Brennan's recent statements purport to know as fact that the Trump campaign colluded with a foreign power. If Director Brennan's statement is based on intelligence he received while still leading the CIA, why didn't he include it in the Intelligence Community Assessment released in 2017? If his statement is based on intelligence he has seen since leaving office, it constitutes an intelligence breach. If he has some other personal knowledge of or evidence of collusion, it should be disclosed to the Special Counsel, not The New York Times . ..."
"... It is doubtful that Trump will let go of the issue. Brennan is a too juicy target to stop shooting at it. Currently Brennan is still too valuable as an enemy for Trump to destroy him. But once that is over Brennan's day of judgment will come. Here are high hopes that Brennan will finally have to pay for at least one of his many crimes. ..."
"... If the Democrats jump to defend Brennan, they will have fallen into another Trump Trap. They are assuredly tone-deaf and stupid enough to take the bait. ..."
"... You are a Trump supporter because you supposedly believe Trump is an insurgent fighting the deep state for a democratic world order, or some such, perhaps more discreetly phrased. But this is nonsense ..."
"... Trump, whatever maybe said against him, is a legitimately, constitutionally elected president. The people like Brennan working against him were not elected. I didn't vote for Trump. I voted for Jill Stein. But, if there is a civil war, I will have to fight for Trump's side. The oath that I swore as a naval officer was to the Constitution. ..."
"... he's a nasty neocon that is of course protected by liberal MSM ..."
"... Unfortunately, there is no limit on the numbers of despicable, warmongering, money-grubbing, craven, destructive, maniacal creatures in government. Brennan is one such specimen. Brennan belongs in prison for subverting the Constitution. ..."
"... Look, Brennan has now had enough time, with his 'hit-team' to clear much of his record and trail of criminality, and he believes that he has enough backing to go after Trump. The key is obviously the Uranium1 scam, which Mueller and Sessions appear to be stalling on big-time. And then there's the Imran Awan / Debbie Washerwoman Shultz bonanza about to break big-time - and you're trying to tell me that Brennan being charged or sued would be 'quite extreme, and an evil precedent'? ..."
"... Just my 2 cents worth. Trump's a stooge, and nearly 100% of what he does is solely and only to bully someone whom Trump perceives has having stood up to him (Trump). It's not so much about Trump taking on BigSpy, Inc, in any meaningful or substantive way. It's about Trump being a big-assed bully and throwing his considerable weight around... without accomplishing much other than smacking down Brennan - deservedly but with no real ongoing lasting useful effect. ..."
"... Democrats are not collectively smart enough or politically astute enough to run away from Brennan. What fools they are! ..."
"... Why did Trump nominated Gina Haspel as CIA Director? Her nomination was supported by former CIA directors John Brennan, Leon Panetta and Michael Morell, former Director of the NSA and CIA Michael Hayden, and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. ..."
"... Haspel was CIA chief of station in London in 2016, when the plot against Trump was hatched. She must have known what Steele et al. were up to. ..."
"... Trumps connections with the Russian Mafia were certainly reason for concern. Too bad the DeepState Media downplayed this angle and some other angles , perhaps that would have prevented Trump from winning. ..."
"... Post Brennan the Trump administration is not only expanding the use of drones, it is also obscuring the facts about how many drones are being used, how many people are being killed by them, and where. His CIA Director Gina Haspel is certainly just as evil as Brennan and even better versed in water boarding. ..."
"... And we should not forget Brennan's role in the coup in Ukraine....does CIA still have an office on the 4th floor of SBU building in Kiev? ..."
"... If the intelligence agencies are so hostile to him, then why nominate Haspel? How does Haspel who, is connected to torture, help MAGA? How is Trump "draining the swamp" when he nominates a swamp creature (the 'choice' of the Deep State) for CIA Director? ..."
"... When "populist" Presidents (both Obama and Trump) serve the establishment instead of the people then we are, simply, being played. In fact, the American political system is organized to prevent a real popul ..."
Aug 18, 2018 | www.moonofalabama.org

John Brennan Is No Match For Trump

U.S President Trump revoked the security clearance of former CIA Director John Brennan.

Good. It is probably the best things Trump has ever done. Brennan is one of the most despicable former U.S. officials alive. He should rot in hell instead of making money off his former status.

Besides that there is no sound reason why anyone who does not work for the government, directly or indirectly, should have a clearance and thereby access to state secrets. ACLU and others are wrong in this. Revoking or keeping a security clearance has nothing to do with free speech or first amendment rights.

Abu Jihad Brennan was the CIA's station chief in Saudi Arabia when the Khobar Towers were bombed. Al-Qaeda did it , but Brennan was helpful in blaming the attack on Hizbullah and Iran. He was deputy executive director of the CIA on 9/11. That 9/11 happened was an intelligence failure or, as some have it, an incident arranged by the deep state. Brennan was CIA chief of staff while the agency concocted false stories about Iraqi WMD. He was within the command line that ran the CIA torture program. It was Brennan who conspired with the Gulf dictators to hire Jihadis to destroy Libya and to attempt the same in Syria. In short - the man was always ruthless, incompetent and dishonest.

When Obama became president he wanted to make Brennan Director of the CIA. The Democrats in Congress were opposed to that. Obama then made him his high priest of targeted killings . After Obama's reelection, Brennan finally became director. He ordered the CIA to spy on the Congress committee investigating CIA torture. He lied to Congress under oath when he denied that it had happened. When it was proven that the CIA did what it did, he had to apologize.

At that time a Washington Post editorial headlined Obama should fire John Brennan . Today the Post calls the revocation of a security clearance of a former official, who -it had opined- should have long been fired, a "political vendetta against a career intelligence officer". Hypocrites.

Most important was " Brennan's ringleader role in the so-far unsuccessful attempts to derail Trump , both before and after the 2016 election. As far as we can tell it was Brennan who concocted and launched the conspiracy to insinuate that Trump is connected with alleged Russian influence. Brennan bet that Hillary Clinton would win the election. He lost his bet and is now out in the cold. He fears that his role, especially his conspiring with British security services and with the Steele dossier, will come to light.

Since Trump became president Brennan publicly opposed him. That was a huge mistake. He is no match for Trump. Be revoking Brennan's clearance Trump is now elevating him to 'hero' of the so called 'resistance' against him which he connects to the deep state. This is the Trump playbook :

[R]unning against the deep state provides Trump a rhetorical crutch. It's a built-in excuse for failing to deliver on his 2016 campaign promises. Sitting presidents usually have to run as incumbents. Trump can try to run for re-election as an outsider. And is there a better poster boy for the alleged deep state than Brennan?

The idiots who express solidarity with Brennan by offering up their security clearances confirm, simply by doing so, that there IS a deep state cabal that is opposed to Trump. Attacking Brennan and them will help Trump to get reelected.

Trump uses the same playbook when he attacks the "fake news media" for opposing him. He is right in that nearly all U.S. and international editors favored Hillery Clinton over Trump. This week 200 U.S. papers united to write editorials against Trump's attacks against the "freedom of the press". They fell for his trick :

Most journalists agree that there's a great need for Trump rebuttals. I've written my share. But this [Boston] Globe -sponsored coordinated editorial response is sure to backfire: It will provide Trump with circumstantial evidence of the existence of a national press cabal that has been convened solely to oppose him. When the editorials roll off the press on Thursday, all singing from the same script, Trump will reap enough fresh material to whale on the media for at least a month. His forthcoming speeches almost write themselves: By colluding against me, the fake media proved once and for all, that they are in cahoots with the Democrats and have declared themselves to be my true political opposition ...

Trump is excellent in playing his domestic opponents. Brennan made a huge mistake in publicly opposing him. He is now standing in the limelight and people will only dig further into his role in the "Russian collusion" campaign. Yesterday Brennan authored a New York Times Op Ed headlined President Trump's Claims of No Collusion Are Hogwash. It does not provide any evidence for the "hogwash" claim. Brennan can not show that there was a Trump campaign collusion with Russia or anyone else.

Richard Burr, Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, gave a somewhat salty and fitting response :

"Director Brennan's recent statements purport to know as fact that the Trump campaign colluded with a foreign power. If Director Brennan's statement is based on intelligence he received while still leading the CIA, why didn't he include it in the Intelligence Community Assessment released in 2017? If his statement is based on intelligence he has seen since leaving office, it constitutes an intelligence breach. If he has some other personal knowledge of or evidence of collusion, it should be disclosed to the Special Counsel, not The New York Times .

"If, however, Director Brennan's statement is purely political and based on conjecture, the president has full authority to revoke his security clearance as head of the Executive Branch."

In short: "Nut up or shut up."

It is doubtful that Trump will let go of the issue. Brennan is a too juicy target to stop shooting at it. Currently Brennan is still too valuable as an enemy for Trump to destroy him. But once that is over Brennan's day of judgment will come. Here are high hopes that Brennan will finally have to pay for at least one of his many crimes.


fastfreddy , Aug 17, 2018 3:30:26 PM | 1

If the Democrats jump to defend Brennan, they will have fallen into another Trump Trap. They are assuredly tone-deaf and stupid enough to take the bait.
steven t johnson , Aug 17, 2018 3:55:46 PM | 2
Indeed, Brennan is scum

That said, there is no deep state, there is just the state. There are factions in the ruling class, but arbitrarily deciding one is evil is just working for the other. You are a Trump supporter because you supposedly believe Trump is an insurgent fighting the deep state for a democratic world order, or some such, perhaps more discreetly phrased. But this is nonsense. The idea that people hate John Brennan so much they'll vote for Trumpery in the midterm and 2020 because Trump is kicking the ass of their enemy...did you actually read what you wrote here?

As far as the free speech rights of Brennan are concerned, the question is whether any contacts with other security officials, and any other research for article, books and speeches can be deemed as pursuing information he is not cleared for. That he could be criminally charged or sued. This would be quite extreme, and an evil precedent when such repressive tactics are used even within the upper ranks. What they do to each other, they'll do to us, faster, harder and more often.

howard in nyc , Aug 17, 2018 3:57:50 PM | 3
b wrote, above:
Good. It is one of the best things Trump has ever done. Brennan is one of the most despicable former U.S. officials alive. He should rot in hell.

but, but, Nancy Pelosi said in a twit:

Revoking the security clearance of an honorable patriot is a stunning abuse of power & a pathetic attempt to silence critics.

Whom am I to believe? (um, trick question) Thank you for the brief summary of this horrible person's career lowlites. Now I can just point people to this piece when they ask me how can I speak against such an 'honorable patriot'. Jeesh, these times we live.

lysias , Aug 17, 2018 4:35:05 PM | 4
Trump, whatever maybe said against him, is a legitimately, constitutionally elected president. The people like Brennan working against him were not elected. I didn't vote for Trump. I voted for Jill Stein. But, if there is a civil war, I will have to fight for Trump's side. The oath that I swore as a naval officer was to the Constitution.
Bardi , Aug 17, 2018 4:38:41 PM | 5
"Brennan is one of the most despicable former U.S. officials alive. He should rot in hell." Neither of those are reasons to remove someone's security clearance. The reasons are documented. Try to stay on topic.
Zanon , Aug 17, 2018 4:41:06 PM | 6
" Brennan is one of the most despicable former U.S. officials alive. He should rot in hell."

Great summary, he's a nasty neocon that is of course protected by liberal MSM.

gogaijin , Aug 17, 2018 4:41:57 PM | 7
I think this is the right move and it may indeed turn out to be a political win. But before giving Trump all the credit, it should be noted that Senator Rand Paul, a man who has consistently been critical of US foreign policy, publicly proposed the idea of canceling Brennan's security clearance last month.

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article216755630.html

Zanon , Aug 17, 2018 4:46:21 PM | 8
After clearance pull, Democrats rush to back Brennan – who spied on them https://www.rt.com/usa/436065-democrats-forget-brennan-spied/
fastfreddy , Aug 17, 2018 4:46:39 PM | 9
Unfortunately, there is no limit on the numbers of despicable, warmongering, money-grubbing, craven, destructive, maniacal creatures in government. Brennan is one such specimen. Brennan belongs in prison for subverting the Constitution.
lysias , Aug 17, 2018 4:47:22 PM | 10
Accusing Trump of treason for what he did in Helsinki is surely sufficient reason for losing a clearance.
fredjc , Aug 17, 2018 4:49:16 PM | 11
@2 steven

"That said, there is no deep state, there is just the state. There are factions in the ruling class, but arbitrarily deciding one is evil is just working for the other. You are a Trump supporter because you supposedly believe Trump is an insurgent fighting the deep state for a democratic world order, or some such, perhaps more discreetly phrased. "

What a strange opening gambit? There obviously is a deep state - who do you think Trump has been battling with if it is not 'hangers on' to political power and influence, the MIC, the Corporations, Wall St, the Fed and the Bankers (spelt with a 'W')?

Look, Brennan has now had enough time, with his 'hit-team' to clear much of his record and trail of criminality, and he believes that he has enough backing to go after Trump. The key is obviously the Uranium1 scam, which Mueller and Sessions appear to be stalling on big-time. And then there's the Imran Awan / Debbie Washerwoman Shultz bonanza about to break big-time - and you're trying to tell me that Brennan being charged or sued would be 'quite extreme, and an evil precedent'?

Jeez, what are they feeding the trolls with these days...

RUKidding , Aug 17, 2018 4:57:57 PM | 12
Brennan is disgusting scum. May he rot. I would prefer for all who are Ex-BigSpy,Inc to have their security clearances revoked as soon as they become "ex." Sadly, that's apparently not how it's done. I fully disagree with a policy of letting these "ex" types keep their security clearance as "a matter of courtesy." Perhaps this whole kerfuffle will lead to a review of this practice and a change but not holding my breath.

Although I kinda personally "like" it that Trump revoked Brennan's clearance, I am also troubled by it. I don't think Trump followed proper channels, and the way it was done -- and for the reasons stated -- are questionable. IMO, it has at least a bit of a stink of Dictatorship about it.

Ergo, I'm not all "down" with what Trump did. Yeah, yeah, he fired a shot across the bow of BigSpy, Inc. In some ways, that's a good thing. But as usual, Trump does this in such a stupidly dumb and ham-handed way that it pretty much negates the potential "good" this might do.

Just my 2 cents worth. Trump's a stooge, and nearly 100% of what he does is solely and only to bully someone whom Trump perceives has having stood up to him (Trump). It's not so much about Trump taking on BigSpy, Inc, in any meaningful or substantive way. It's about Trump being a big-assed bully and throwing his considerable weight around... without accomplishing much other than smacking down Brennan - deservedly but with no real ongoing lasting useful effect.

fastfreddy , Aug 17, 2018 4:58:38 PM | 13
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Democrats are not collectively smart enough or politically astute enough to run away from Brennan. What fools they are!

They abandoned their "working persons" base a long time ago. That, and Obama embraced (rescued) the Republican Party after it was nearly torn asunder by Dubya Bush. Recall that Republican affiliation was at an historic low. They needed a boot on their throats and instead they got a hand up. A seat at the table, and often, the head of the table.

Completely revived, they (the R Party) now have carte blanche to destroy public institutions at will.

Jackrabbit , Aug 17, 2018 4:59:17 PM | 14
Why did Trump nominated Gina Haspel as CIA Director? Her nomination was supported by former CIA directors John Brennan, Leon Panetta and Michael Morell, former Director of the NSA and CIA Michael Hayden, and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. Draining the swamp? If Trump had taken on Brennan sooner, Haspel's nomination and confirmation might've been moot.

Watch what they DO not what they SAY.

lysias , Aug 17, 2018 5:08:45 PM | 15
Haspel was CIA chief of station in London in 2016, when the plot against Trump was hatched. She must have known what Steele et al. were up to.
Pft , Aug 17, 2018 5:12:59 PM | 19
Trumps connections with the Russian Mafia were certainly reason for concern. Too bad the DeepState Media downplayed this angle and some other angles , perhaps that would have prevented Trump from winning.

Post Brennan the Trump administration is not only expanding the use of drones, it is also obscuring the facts about how many drones are being used, how many people are being killed by them, and where. His CIA Director Gina Haspel is certainly just as evil as Brennan and even better versed in water boarding.

Anyways, big whoop that Brennan lost his security clearance . I doubt he needs Food Stamps now.

Mark2 , Aug 17, 2018 5:23:27 PM | 20
Personally I hope this gets right out of control. Drone strikes and cruse missile style ! Freandly rebels, white helmets the whole deal. bring it on and pass the popcorn !!! Dirty scum.
hopehely , Aug 17, 2018 7:04:33 PM | 31
And we should not forget Brennan's role in the coup in Ukraine....does CIA still have an office on the 4th floor of SBU building in Kiev?
Jackrabbit , Aug 17, 2018 7:59:19 PM | 39
lysias @27: Trump was meant to win? Obviously not by the intelligence agencies...

If the intelligence agencies are so hostile to him, then why nominate Haspel? How does Haspel who, is connected to torture, help MAGA? How is Trump "draining the swamp" when he nominates a swamp creature (the 'choice' of the Deep State) for CIA Director?

When "populist" Presidents (both Obama and Trump) serve the establishment instead of the people then we are, simply, being played. In fact, the American political system is organized to prevent a real popul

Rob , Aug 17, 2018 8:02:56 PM | 40
As far as I am concerned, every CIA director, living or dead, is/was guilty of heinous crimes and deserves to rot in hell. Yet it is just plain nonsense to believe that Donald Trump can outsmart them...
NemesisCalling , Aug 17, 2018 8:22:30 PM | 43
@25 jackrabbit

Trump is...

"a deep state asset." How do you know that? It could be just as well that Trump is fighting this group by outsmarting them with the long game, a la Putin. (i.e. mixed signals and not acting too brashly in undoing the cabal)

"a faux populist." Even if he was a faux populist, which he might exhibit shades of, how does this make him a bad president at this current juncture in US history? Would you accept that a good president could not be a populist? IMO, he appears to be scrambling the cohesive unity and appearance of America's FP and putting the pressure on the seams of NATO and the UN so that they may eventually tear. Whatever your opinion of the UN, one can not argue against its ineffectual weight in ongoing atrocity (Syria, Yemen), but one COULD argue that it has been an agent of or has at least been coopted by the NWO.

I believe you are proceeding from these two points in your thinking that need to be reevaluated.

In your prior post @13, you equate selecting Gina Haspel as director of the CIA as further proof of Trump's assured malfeasance. Have you considered that:

1) she may be ineffectual and so on Trump's leash at the CIA
2) in her prior years under the shadow of Brennan, her promotions might have been politically-motivated and so it is understandable that a globalist like Brennan would vote in lockstep their approval of Haspel because "GIRL POWER!" .
3) it might not be as simple as that to say that just because one is brought up in Brennan's CIA and then ascends to its heights that she will do globalist/Brennan bidding as a sleeper-agent in her position.

Circe , Aug 17, 2018 10:48:00 PM | 62
I agree with everything expressed here about Brennan but while Trump is getting rid of one war criminal, he's bedding another; oligarch friend Erik Prince aka Blackwater ceo, aka exCIA operative who he wants to put in charge in Afghanistan. Trump could care less of your noble reasons for hating Brennan. Trump is no genius who gives a damn about human rights violations. Trump only cares about number one; HIMSELF.

So what's the difference between Brennan and Prince? Only the size of their bank account. When Trump does something right as in Brennan's case you can always thank his big fat ego; self-promotion or self-preservation; SELF being the operative word. To compensate for that accidental right move he'll make a collosal dumb move as in North Korea vs Iran as in Brennan vs Erik Prince. I rest my case.

jadan , Aug 17, 2018 11:15:05 PM | 67
The enemy of my enemy is also an enemy in this case. It pains me to agree with Trump on any issue. Brennan is a thug. His physiognomy gives him away at a glance. To say he is no match for Trump is not correct. He is no match for the power of the presidency. Trump can't handle this power, either, which is why he is going down for laundering money for Russians and for colluding with them to win the election, which is not to say the Russians rigged the election. Nor is not to say the Russians are enemies, as Obama and the CIA have struggled to establish. This is to say that Trump is impulsive, ignorant, solipsistic, and corrupt to the bone.
Jen , Aug 18, 2018 12:16:37 AM | 69
I have heard rumour that while he was CIA Station Chief in Saudi Arabia in the late 1990s, John Brennan converted to Wahhabi Islam. Is anyone able to say if this is true?

The only sources of information on this rumour are a former FBI counter-terrorism agent John Guandolo and a retired CIA senior official Brad Johnson (who has admitted that he has never heard Brennan say the shahada - the profession of faith, that the only God is Allah and Muhammad is his prophet - but knows people in the CIA who apparently have heard Brennan say the shahada in front of Saudi and US government officials).

https://www.acunewsdaily.com/2017/06/29/cia-confirms-john-brennan-converted-to-islam/

Cyril , Aug 18, 2018 1:08:08 AM | 71
Brennan is one of the most despicable former U.S. officials alive.

Indeed. It's possible that the misdeeds listed in the article have not begun to measure the man's wickedness.

I think it's a good time to mention The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade by Alfred McCoy. (I am not posting a link as the URL is too long.) As the title says, the book is about how deeply the CIA is involved in the global drug trade.

What are the chances that former CIA Director Brennan is/was one of the gangsters causing the current opioid and heroin epidemic in the U.S.?

Emily , Aug 18, 2018 6:15:28 AM | 78
Why would he have a security clearance if he was no longer a member of the government?
None of them should
I cannot understand the logic of it all,
Hillary Clinton for example - she has one I believe.
Rather bizarre isn't it?
Just asking.

[Aug 18, 2018] The illness took hold during the campaign that year when the bureaucracy under President Obama sent its lymphocytes and microphages in the "intel community" to attack the perceived disease that the election of Donald Trump represented

Aug 18, 2018 | www.moonofalabama.org

Jack Thomsen , Aug 18, 2018 10:07:22 AM | 92

At last – a paterfamiliar earful by none other than James Howard Kunstler, on the state of the "Three Headed Monster" that is the Democratic Party.

This is an important tipping point, because the country is waiting for nobles of the left to lead their children from the deep dark woods.
Every day, we ask, "Where are the adults? Who will call this madness for what it is?" I'll provide the link to this masterful analysis of the "illness" – but first let me tempt readers with a brief synopsis of the "first head".

" one infected with the toxic shock of losing the 2016 election. The illness took hold during the campaign that year when the bureaucracy under President Obama sent its lymphocytes and microphages in the "intel community" to attack the perceived disease that the election of Donald Trump represented.

The "doctors" of this Deep State diagnosed the condition as "Russian collusion." An overdue second opinion by doctors outside the Deep State adduced later that the malady was actually an auto-immune disease.

The agents actually threatening the health of the state came from the intel community itself . who colluded with pathogens in the DNC, the Hillary campaign, and the British intel service to chew up and spit out Mr. Trump as expeditiously as possible.

With the disease now revealed by hard evidence, the chief surgeon called into the case, Robert Mueller, is left looking ridiculous -- and perhaps subject to malpractice charges -- for trying to remove an appendix-like organ called the Manifort from the body politic instead of attending to the cancerous mess all around him. Meanwhile, the Deep State can't stop running its mouth -- "

This was published on his blog yesterday..... this is monumental, if only because the masks are coming off.

Read his description of the other 2 heads.... it's wonderful.

http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-three-headed-monster

[Aug 17, 2018] Trump revokes security clearance for former CIA chief Brennan Ruling class warfare intensifies by Patrick Martin

Who are two factions of the elite that now logged horns? Patrick Martin thinks that "Brennan party" "... oppose Trump mainly on the grounds that his foreign policy -- particularly in relation to Russia -- is undermining longstanding strategic interests of American imperialism."
Notable quotes:
"... The action against Brennan provoked widespread opposition within the military-intelligence apparatus and from the Democratic Party and the corporate media. Most congressional Democrats and some Republicans criticized Trump's action, while former intelligence and security officials issued public protests. ..."
"... As the Socialist Equality Party declared in the main resolution adopted by its Fifth National Congress, last month, both sides in the conflict, Trump and his opponents, are enemies of the working class ..."
"... The break with democratic forms of rule is accompanied by ferocious conflicts within the state apparatus. Each day the president spews his verbal tirades, while the Democrats expound their neo-McCarthyite fantasies of Russians "sowing discord" in America. There is nothing remotely progressive, let alone dignified, in the opposition to Trump mounted by the Democratic Party and sections of the media. They represent another reactionary faction of the ruling class. They oppose Trump mainly on the grounds that his foreign policy -- particularly in relation to Russia -- is undermining longstanding strategic interests of American imperialism. ..."
Aug 17, 2018 | www.wsws.org

The warfare reached a new stage Wednesday with the move by US President Donald Trump to revoke the security clearance of former CIA Director John Brennan, citing his "erratic conduct and behavior," "frenzied commentary" in the media and on Twitter, and "wild outbursts on the internet and television."

The action against Brennan provoked widespread opposition within the military-intelligence apparatus and from the Democratic Party and the corporate media. Most congressional Democrats and some Republicans criticized Trump's action, while former intelligence and security officials issued public protests.

The New York Times , the main media mouthpiece of the Democratic Party, immediately opened its editorial pages to Brennan to respond to Trump's action. In a comment published Thursday, Brennan focused entirely on promoting the myth of Russian intervention in the US elections, denouncing Russian denials as "hogwash," and portraying Trump as a conscious and witting collaborator with "our primary global adversary" -- in other words, a traitor.

The White House first hinted at revoking Brennan's security clearance last month, and the statement announcing the action initially carried the date July 26, indicating that the move had been decided on three weeks ago, but was not made public until Trump felt it would help distract public attention from the mounting crisis within his administration.

... ... ...

On the other hand, Brennan has emerged naturally as the chief spokesman of Trump's ruling class critics. He is the former head of drone warfare for the Obama administration and the former chief executive of the organization of official assassins, thugs and professional liars known as the Central Intelligence Agency. As CIA director, he sought to block the Senate Intelligence Committee report released in 2014 documenting CIA torture during the Bush administration.

Brennan has a three-decade career with the CIA, where he served, among other places, as station chief in Saudi Arabia, before spending most of the past 20 years at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia or in the Obama White House.

Since leaving the CIA in January 2017, Brennan has cashed in on his intelligence career with a lucrative post as an "analyst" and commentator for NBC News. He has played a leading role in the campaign by sections of the military-intelligence apparatus, backed by the media and the Democratic Party, to attack Trump as "soft" on Russia. The aim is not only to impose a shift in the foreign policy of the Trump administration, but to create the framework for criminalizing domestic opposition and censoring the Internet.

As the Socialist Equality Party declared in the main resolution adopted by its Fifth National Congress, last month, both sides in the conflict, Trump and his opponents, are enemies of the working class :

The break with democratic forms of rule is accompanied by ferocious conflicts within the state apparatus. Each day the president spews his verbal tirades, while the Democrats expound their neo-McCarthyite fantasies of Russians "sowing discord" in America. There is nothing remotely progressive, let alone dignified, in the opposition to Trump mounted by the Democratic Party and sections of the media. They represent another reactionary faction of the ruling class. They oppose Trump mainly on the grounds that his foreign policy -- particularly in relation to Russia -- is undermining longstanding strategic interests of American imperialism.

It is notable that Brennan's column in the New York Times , written in McCarthyite language, presents democratic forms themselves as the main weakness in a global struggle with Russia. Brennan writes: "Electoral politics in Western democracies presents an especially inviting target, as a variety of politicians, political parties, media outlets, think tanks and influencers are readily manipulated, wittingly and unwittingly, or even bought outright by Russian intelligence operatives. The very freedoms and liberties that liberal Western democracies cherish and that autocracies fear have been exploited by Russian intelligence services "

... ... ...

Patrick Martin

[Aug 17, 2018] Neoliberal press is by definition the enemy of the people, but they will vehemently deny this

Not only Trump is right calling neoliberal MSM the enemy of the people. This is a distributed version of the Ministry of Truth. With CIA as a command center ;-).
Thanks God internet still exists and is not completely controlled by neoliberals and neocons.
The behaviors of neoliberal MSM during color revolution against Trump is pretty revealing, so say the least.
That Department N of the Ministry of Truth is upset about Trump revealing inconvenient truth should not surprise anybody
Notable quotes:
"... And does Trump not have a point when he says the Boston Globe ..."
"... Washington Post ..."
Aug 17, 2018 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Thursday, the New York Times decried Trump's accusation that the media are "the enemy of the people." "Insisting that truths you don't like are 'fake news' is dangerous to the lifeblood of democracy. And calling journalists 'the enemy of the people' is dangerous, period," said the Times .

Fair enough, but is it not also dangerous for a free press to be using its First Amendment rights to endlessly bash a president as a racist, fascist, sexist, neo-Nazi, liar, tyrant, and traitor?

The message of journalists who use such terms may be to convey their detestation of Trump. But what is the message received in the sick minds of people like that leftist who tried to massacre Republican congressmen practicing for their annual softball game against Democrats?

And does Trump not have a point when he says the Boston Globe -- organized national attack on him, joined in by the Times and 300 other newspapers, was journalistic "collusion" against him?

If Trump believes that CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times , and the Washington Post are mortal enemies that want to see him ousted or impeached, is he wrong?

We are an irreconcilable us-against-them nation today, and given the rancor across the ideological, social, and cultural chasm that divides us, it is hard to see how, even post-Trump, we can ever come together again.

Speaking at a New York LGBT gala in 2016, Hillary Clinton said: "You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic. Some of those folks are irredeemable, but they are not America."

When Clinton's reflections on Middle America made it into print, she amended her remarks. Just as Governor Andrew Cuomo rushed to amend his comments yesterday when he blurted at a bill-signing ceremony: "We're not going to make America great again. It was never that great." America was "never that great"?

[Aug 17, 2018] Can America Ever Come Together Again The American Conservative

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"... Washington Post ..."
Aug 17, 2018 | www.theamericanconservative.com

If ex-CIA director John Brennan did to Andrew Jackson what he did to Donald Trump, he would have lost a lot more than his security clearance.

He would have been challenged to a duel.

"Trump's performance in Helsinki," Brennan had said, "exceeds the threshold of 'high crimes & misdemeanors.' It was treasonous."

Why should the president not strip from a CIA director who calls him a traitor the honor and privilege of a security clearance? Or is a top-secret clearance an entitlement like Social Security?

CIA directors retain clearances because they are seen as national assets, individuals whose unique experience, knowledge, and judgment may be called upon to assist a president in a national crisis.

Not so long ago, this was a bipartisan tradition.

Who trashed it?

Was it not the former heads of the security agencies -- CIA, FBI, director of national intelligence -- who have been leveling the kind of savage attacks on the chief of state one might expect from Antifa?

Are ex-security officials entitled to retain the high privileges of the offices they held if they descend into cable TV hatred and hostility?

Former CIA chief Mike Hayden, in attacking Trump for separating the families of detained illegal immigrants at the border, tweeted a photo of the train tracks leading into Auschwitz. "Other governments have separated mothers and children" was Hayden's caption. Is that fair criticism from an ex-CIA director?

Thursday, the New York Times decried Trump's accusation that the media are "the enemy of the people." "Insisting that truths you don't like are 'fake news' is dangerous to the lifeblood of democracy. And calling journalists 'the enemy of the people' is dangerous, period," said the Times .

Fair enough, but is it not also dangerous for a free press to be using its First Amendment rights to endlessly bash a president as a racist, fascist, sexist, neo-Nazi, liar, tyrant, and traitor?

The message of journalists who use such terms may be to convey their detestation of Trump. But what is the message received in the sick minds of people like that leftist who tried to massacre Republican congressmen practicing for their annual softball game against Democrats?

And does Trump not have a point when he says the Boston Globe -- organized national attack on him, joined in by the Times and 300 other newspapers, was journalistic "collusion" against him?

If Trump believes that CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times , and the Washington Post are mortal enemies that want to see him ousted or impeached, is he wrong?

We are an irreconcilable us-against-them nation today, and given the rancor across the ideological, social, and cultural chasm that divides us, it is hard to see how, even post-Trump, we can ever come together again.

Speaking at a New York LGBT gala in 2016, Hillary Clinton said: "You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic. Some of those folks are irredeemable, but they are not America."

When Clinton's reflections on Middle America made it into print, she amended her remarks. Just as Governor Andrew Cuomo rushed to amend his comments yesterday when he blurted at a bill-signing ceremony: "We're not going to make America great again. It was never that great." America was "never that great"?

Cuomo's press secretary hastened to explain: "When the president speaks about making America great again he ignores the pain so many endured and that we suffered from slavery, discrimination, segregation, sexism, and marginalized women's contributions."

Clinton and Cuomo committed gaffes of the kind Michael Kinsley described as the blurting out of truths the speaker believes but desperately does not want a wider audience to know.

In San Francisco in 2008, Barack Obama committed such a gaffe.

Asked why blue-collar workers in industrial towns decimated by job losses were not responding to his message, Obama trashed such folks as the unhappy losers of our emerging brave new world: "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

These clingers to their Bibles, bigotries, and guns are the people the mainstream media, 10 years later, deride and dismiss as "Trump's base."

What Clinton, Cuomo, and Obama spilled out reveals what is really behind the cultural and ideological wars of America today.

Most media elites accept the historic indictment -- that before the Progressives came, this country was mired in racism, sexism, homophobia, and xenophobia, and that its history was a long catalog of crimes against indigenous peoples, Africans brought here in bondage, Mexicans whose lands we stole, migrants, and women and gays who were denied equality.

Those who cheer Trump believe the country they inherited from their fathers was a great, good, and glorious country, and that the media who detest Trump also despise them.

For such as these, Trump cannot scourge the media often enough.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, Nixon's White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever . To find out more about Patrick Buchanan and read features by other Creators writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators website at www.creators.com.

[Aug 17, 2018] OBAMUNISM: Weaponizing government agencies to attack DemoRats political opponents

Aug 16, 2018 | www.zerohedge.com

DaiRR -> surf@jm Thu, 08/16/2018 - 22:49 Permalink

DemoRats and Deep Staters are all about the enemy "Russia". To hell with them both. And to hell with Brennan, Clapper, Yates, Rice, and all the other lying, cheating promoters of OBAMUNISM: Weaponizing government agencies to attack DemoRats' political opponents like you and me. You know the fake "Russia Collusion" fraud perpetrated by the DemoRats goes all the way up to Obama.

[Aug 17, 2018] What is definitely conclusive is the Gucci 2 entity forged the inclusion of Russian fingerprints in the leaked version of the documents by pasting it into a Russian language Word template.

Notable quotes:
"... What is definitely conclusive is the Gucci 2 entity forged the inclusion of Russian fingerprints in the leaked version of the documents by pasting it into a Russian language Word template. With 70 years of experience in espionage, there is no way Russian spy agencies are that sloppy and moreover, and if they were it would be absolutely unprecedented. ..."
"... the central conclusion of William Binnery's forensic analysis: that Gucifer 2.0 was a fabrication, and that the DNC emails were downloaded, not hacked by Russia. ..."
"... Were Assange be allowed to testify before the Senate Intelligence Committee later this month, the lid could be blown off the entire sordid operation. ..."
"... From before the CIA's formation the US intelligence activities have been the province of the Republican Party (there are plenty of exceptions, but please follow). Allen Dulles and his ilk were friends with and shared goals with German industrialists long before World War II. These relationships continued through WWII and afterwards. The CIA has functioned as an international coal and iron police, overthrowing governments around the world that have stood in the way of corporate profits. ..."
"... This edition of Covert Action Information Bulletin, in 1990, happened just before a shift in Washington. Almost all of the operations run by our government to destabilize Eastern Europe and the USSR in 1990 were organized by the political right and run by people such as Paul Weyrich. But the nineties showed a rise in Democratic activity in these settings. I would guess that a mental image of this would be our then-First Lady lying about dodging bullets on an airstrip during the destruction of Yugoslavia. It marked the successful CIA takeover of the Democratic Party. ..."
"... The 2016 Russiagate hysteria has been an intelligence operation which has been by all measures successful. I presumed initially that the scam was done to put Hillary into the White House, but now wonder if having Trump as President was part of the long-term strategy. ..."
"... Please note that the DNC backed over fifty new candidates for Congress who have intelligence backgrounds. How do you think they will vote for the coming war resolution against Russia? ..."
"... Not sure about the theory of installing Trump in the WH is part of a long term strategy of the deep state, but the latter seems to be adapting to the disruption quite well. ..."
"... Additional info: Stephen Kinzer's "The Brothers" which documents the Dulles brother's creation of the Cold War mentality and activities. Shouldn't we add Carter and Zbigniew Brzezinski. ..."
"... Citing a book from almost 30 years ago that implicated ONLY the Republicans in the CIAs machinations ignores LBJ and the CIA's involvement in Vietnam and possibly in the JFK assassination. ..."
"... One suspects that the President has revealed far less than he knows, perhaps wary of being accused of "obstruction" by Mueller in concert with the controlled media. He actually requested that William Binney present his analysis to then CIA Director Pompeo, who has since sat on it. ..."
"... But actually, to your point, the reverse is true. If the DNC and Podesta were hacked by Russians, the NSA would have been able to demonstrate that fact through evidentiary proof, a point made repeatedly by Binney. ..."
"... No such proof was or has ever been offered. Instead the main document presented to the American public was the January 6, 2017 "assessment" by analysts hand-picked by John Brennan, who has played a key role in the illegal operation against President Trump. ..."
"... I was struck by one comment particularly, why not ask Assange about the leak. ..."
"... Keeping him incommunicado certainly serves the leaders of the lynch mob and thanks goes to the new Ecuadorian President. He was asked to shut the guy up and he did. ..."
"... Herman, Assange has been asked about the identity of the leaker and replied that he couldn't comment because Wikileaks has a strict policy of maintaining sources' confidentiality. No potential source would ever trust Assange if he violated that policy. Instead, Assange offered a $20,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Seth Richards' murderer. So this was his way of answering the question indirectly. ..."
Aug 17, 2018 | consortiumnews.com

Paul N August 14, 2018 at 2:36 pm

I don't believe the Russians did this. I think there are perhaps millions of people in the US capable of carrying out this action and many more with motive. Furthermore, if they did, I am happy that the information was made available so I can't see why I would care.

That said, I am unconvinced by this evidence. I am quite familiar with file systems on different operating systems and I would at least need to know what device we are talking about here. Did it come from Assange? Why doesn't somebody say so? What sort of device is it? The simple fact that it was copied from a computer doesn't prove that the computer was the DNC server. It might have been copied from Putin's iMac. I believe in one reading the writer acknowledged that the dates on the drive could be manipulated and I am certain that this is true. While this may still leave it above the level of evidence that the FBI or "intelligence" agencies have presented (or even claimed to have) it is not conclusive. Reply

GM , August 14, 2018 at 5:10 pm

What is definitely conclusive is the Gucci 2 entity forged the inclusion of Russian fingerprints in the leaked version of the documents by pasting it into a Russian language Word template. With 70 years of experience in espionage, there is no way Russian spy agencies are that sloppy and moreover, and if they were it would be absolutely unprecedented.

Furthermore, I have no reason to disbelieve Craig Murray that the docs were handed to him directly and transferred by him to Wikileaks. Quite the contrary, in fact, since his reputation would undoubtedly be irreconcilably demolished for all time if the Russiagaters ever came up with hard proof to support their conspiracy theory.

GM , August 14, 2018 at 5:12 pm

Please forgive all the typos, posted on my little bitty phone :)

j. D. D. , August 14, 2018 at 2:21 pm

The crucial premise of the ongoing British-instigated coup against President Trump and the chief legal ground for Robert Mueller's operation against the President, is the claim that the Russians hacked the emails of the DNC and, John Podesta, and provided the results to WikiLeaks which published them. The authenticity of such emails showing Hillary Clinton to be a craven puppet of Wall Street who had cheated Bernie Sanders of the nomination were never disputed, by Clinton, or anyone else.

Nor has the central conclusion of William Binnery's forensic analysis: that Gucifer 2.0 was a fabrication, and that the DNC emails were downloaded, not hacked by Russia.

Furthermore, the only people who really know where and by whom the download occurred are Julian Assange, whose life is now in peril, and former British Ambassador Craig Murray.

Were Assange be allowed to testify before the Senate Intelligence Committee later this month, the lid could be blown off the entire sordid operation.

paul g. , August 14, 2018 at 3:03 pm

Craig stated he was merely a go between, who was given the data in the woods by American University by probably another go between. Lots of cut outs here but the data was transferred physically by thumb drive(s).

David G , August 15, 2018 at 8:27 am

"The crucial premise is the claim that the Russians hacked the emails of the DNC and, John Podesta, and provided the results to WikiLeaks which published them."

Don't forget about the Facebook puppy videos. https://consortiumnews.com/2017/10/04/the-mystery-of-the-russia-gate-puppies/

Bob In Portland , August 14, 2018 at 1:25 pm

I would like to call attention to a little slice of history of US the destabilization of Eastern Europe and the USSR that would help to explain what is happening today.

From before the CIA's formation the US intelligence activities have been the province of the Republican Party (there are plenty of exceptions, but please follow). Allen Dulles and his ilk were friends with and shared goals with German industrialists long before World War II. These relationships continued through WWII and afterwards. The CIA has functioned as an international coal and iron police, overthrowing governments around the world that have stood in the way of corporate profits.

Russ Bellant's book, Old Nazis, the New Right, and the Republican Party, points to the political relationship between the Republican Party and fascists around the world. You can read a short article by Bellant here: https://archive.org/details/CovertActionInformationBulletinNo35TheCIAInEasternEurope

This edition of Covert Action Information Bulletin, in 1990, happened just before a shift in Washington. Almost all of the operations run by our government to destabilize Eastern Europe and the USSR in 1990 were organized by the political right and run by people such as Paul Weyrich. But the nineties showed a rise in Democratic activity in these settings. I would guess that a mental image of this would be our then-First Lady lying about dodging bullets on an airstrip during the destruction of Yugoslavia. It marked the successful CIA takeover of the Democratic Party.

The 2016 Russiagate hysteria has been an intelligence operation which has been by all measures successful. I presumed initially that the scam was done to put Hillary into the White House, but now wonder if having Trump as President was part of the long-term strategy.

Please note that the DNC backed over fifty new candidates for Congress who have intelligence backgrounds. How do you think they will vote for the coming war resolution against Russia?

GM , August 14, 2018 at 5:16 pm

Not sure about the theory of installing Trump in the WH is part of a long term strategy of the deep state, but the latter seems to be adapting to the disruption quite well.

Diana Lee , August 14, 2018 at 8:52 pm

Additional info: Stephen Kinzer's "The Brothers" which documents the Dulles brother's creation of the Cold War mentality and activities.
Shouldn't we add Carter and Zbigniew Brzezinski.

michael , August 15, 2018 at 6:33 am

Citing a book from almost 30 years ago that implicated ONLY the Republicans in the CIAs machinations ignores LBJ and the CIA's involvement in Vietnam and possibly in the JFK assassination. Later, Carter was the only Democrat President who may or may not have been heavily involved with the CIA. The Clintons were likely involved with the CIA early on in their Mena, Arkansas drug-smuggling schemes, and the CIA was definitely closely involved in their presidential anti-Slavic foreign policy. The Clintons' neoliberal agenda fit well with the older neocons and consolidated the Duopoly support for the crazed think tank ideas in DC.

jeff montanye , August 17, 2018 at 7:45 am

all perhaps true, but the cia, etc. have terribly neglected their republican base (ftr: registered democrat, sanders and trump voter) and it is baying at their heels, drool swinging from gnashing fangs. that is a political change as profound and radical as anything i observed around the tear gas and batons of the sixties.

Dan Kuhn , August 14, 2018 at 1:19 pm

"They have passed the point of no return; there is no walking it back now. If it fails heads will roll, but most importantly these trusted institutions will have flushed their last vestiges of credibility down the drain. Then what?"

Then nothing. It puts one mind of the comment made by one of the Robber Barons when they were caught with their hands in the cookie jar. His comment " All that was lost was honour" In the present mess even if eventually it all comes to light no one is going to be held answerable. No one is going to jail. Truth does not matter. The propaganda is what matters. if it is proven wrong it is merely swept under the rug. With the short attention spans of Americans it would be forgotten in a New York Minute.

GM , August 14, 2018 at 5:19 pm

Perhaps this explains the need for the likely false flag poison attack in Britain and the fake Douma nerve gas attack. Russiagate hasn't really been panning out so well and too much info has been emerging to challenge the narrative.

David G , August 15, 2018 at 8:29 am

I fully agree.

Peter de Klerk , August 14, 2018 at 1:06 pm

If Russian hacking is a hoax, why has it not been exposed by all the Trump appointed intelligence and FBI heads? Trump's people could shut it down with a public single statement. Y'all are deep into a conspiracy theory that makes no sense.

AnthraxSleuth , August 14, 2018 at 1:27 pm

Pffft!

It was shown to be a hoax by Clinton's own campaign staff in their book released after the election titled "shattered".

"Within 24 hours of her concession speech, [campaign chair John Podesta and manager Robby Mook] assembled her communications team at the Brooklyn headquarters to engineer the case that the election wasn't entirely on the up-and-up. For a couple of hours, with Shake Shack containers littering the room, they went over the script they would pitch to the press and the public. Already, Russian hacking was the centerpiece of the argument."

The plan, according to the book, was to push journalists to cover how "Russian hacking was the major unreported story of the campaign," and it succeeded to a fare-thee-well. After the election, coverage of the Russian "collusion" story was relentless, and it helped pressure investigations and hearings on Capitol Hill and even the naming of a special counsel, which in turn has triggered virtually nonstop coverage.

https://nypost.com/2017/10/26/how-team-hillary-played-the-press-for-fools-on-russia/

Guess the only conspiracy theororist here is you. Goebbels would be so proud. You drank the kool-aid bruh!

Peter de Klerk , August 14, 2018 at 2:19 pm

My comment applies equally well to your response. Why doesn't Nunes, Pompeo, or Coates, etc ever say anything about these theories?

AnthraxSleuth , August 14, 2018 at 4:28 pm

It's no longer a theory when the conspirators confess to it in their own writing. Which I demonstrated to you in the previous post.

Peter de Klerk , August 14, 2018 at 6:18 pm

This very slanted article amplifies a few post-election statements. I'm sure Podesta and Mook wanted to play this up. Some of that was sour grapes but most people are inclined to think it was also true. These guys controlling most media outlets and most of the intelligence community seems absurd to me. But I guess we all believe what we want to believe now.

jdd , August 14, 2018 at 2:30 pm

One suspects that the President has revealed far less than he knows, perhaps wary of being accused of "obstruction" by Mueller in concert with the controlled media. He actually requested that William Binney present his analysis to then CIA Director Pompeo, who has since sat on it.

But actually, to your point, the reverse is true. If the DNC and Podesta were hacked by Russians, the NSA would have been able to demonstrate that fact through evidentiary proof, a point made repeatedly by Binney.

No such proof was or has ever been offered. Instead the main document presented to the American public was the January 6, 2017 "assessment" by analysts hand-picked by John Brennan, who has played a key role in the illegal operation against President Trump.

jeff montanye , August 17, 2018 at 7:54 am

And Donald Trump has more training in show business than most politicians or even internet commenters. I suspect there is a fall premiere of quite an extravaganza leading up to the midterm elections.

Herman , August 14, 2018 at 1:03 pm

Read half the most intelligent commentary and had to quick. I was struck by one comment particularly, why not ask Assange about the leak. Too simple but too much to ask, I guess. Keeping him incommunicado certainly serves the leaders of the lynch mob and thanks goes to the new Ecuadorian President. He was asked to shut the guy up and he did.

Modawg , August 14, 2018 at 3:28 pm

I think he has been asked and has politely refused to reveal. But his innuendo is that it was from inside the US and definitely not the Russkies.

alley cat , August 14, 2018 at 4:44 pm

Herman, Assange has been asked about the identity of the leaker and replied that he couldn't comment because Wikileaks has a strict policy of maintaining sources' confidentiality. No potential source would ever trust Assange if he violated that policy. Instead, Assange offered a $20,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Seth Richards' murderer. So this was his way of answering the question indirectly.

A Solomonic solution that is technically not a violation of confidentiality

Andy Wilcoxson , August 14, 2018 at 12:36 pm

Can I play devil's advocate and ask a question. Can we rule out the possibility that a hacker in Russia, China, or wherever had remote control of a computer in the United States that they used to hack the DNC?

49.1 megabytes per second is almost 400 mbps, which is a very fast transfer speed, but there were one gigabit (1000 mbps) connections available in several US markets when these e-mails were stolen. You might not have been able to transfer the files directly from Washington D.C. to Russia at those speeds, but you certainly could have transferred them between computers within the United States at those speeds using gigabit internet connections.

Is there something I'm missing? How does the file transfer speed prove this was a USB download and not a hack when gigabit internet connections existed that could have accommodated those transfer speeds -- maybe not directly to Russia or Europe, but certainly to another US-based computer that foreign hackers may have have remotely controlled.

Desert Dave , August 14, 2018 at 6:09 pm

Actually a byte is 10 bits total because there is overhead (start and stop bits). So 49.1 MBps is about 491 Mbps. The question of whether the DNC server was attached to a network that fast would be easy to answer, if the FBI or anybody else wanted to check.

AnthraxSleuth , August 15, 2018 at 1:11 am

A byte is 8 bits.

[Aug 17, 2018] New York Times exploits Parkland tragedy to escalate anti-Russian campaign - World Socialist Web Site

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"... But it is worth noting that, particularly in recent decades, and under the auspices of Editorial Page editor James Bennet, there has been a remarkable integration of the Times ..."
"... The logic of the Times ..."
"... Imperial Messenger ..."
Feb 21, 2018 | www.wsws.org

Less than four days after the Parkland school shooting, the New York Times has found a way to turn a national tragedy that claimed the lives of 17 high school students into an opportunity to escalate its unrelenting campaign of anti-Russian propaganda, involving the continuous bombardment of the public with reactionary lies and warmongering.

Against the backdrop of a major escalation of military tensions between the two countries, the Times seized upon the Justice Department indictment of Russian nationals over the weekend to claim that Russia is at "war" with the United States. Now, the Times has widened this claim into an argument that Russia somehow bears responsibility for social divisions over the latest mass shooting in America.

Its lead headline Tuesday morning blared: "SHOTS ARE FIRED, AND BOTS SWARM TO SOCIAL DIVIDES - Florida School Shooting Draws an Army Ready to Spread Discord"

According to the Times , Russian "bots," or automated social media accounts, sought "to widen the divide" on issues of gun control and mental illness, in order to "make compromise even more difficult." Russia sought to exploit "the issue of mental illness in the gun control debate," and "propagated the notion that Nikolas Cruz, the suspected gunman" was "mentally ill."

The absurd claim that Russia is responsible for the existence of social divisions in America is belied by the shooting itself, which is a testament to the fact that American society is riven by antagonisms that express themselves, in the absence of a progressive outlet, in outpourings of mass violence.

The aim of this campaign is to target anyone who would criticize the underlying social causes of the shooting -- the violence of American society, the nonexistence of mental health services, or even the social psychology that gives rise to mass shootings -- as a "Russian agent" seeking to "sow divisions" in American society. The Times lead is based entirely on a "dashboard" called Hamilton 68 created by the German Marshall Fund's Alliance for Securing Democracy, whose lead spokesman is Clint Watts, the former US intelligence agent and censorship advocate who declared in November that social media companies must "silence" sources of "rebellion."

Without naming any of the accounts it follows, Hamilton 68 claims to track content tweeted by "Russian bots and trolls." But most of the trends leading the dashboard are news stories, many posted by Russia Today and Sputnik News , that are identical with the trending topics followed by any other news agency. Thus, Hamilton 68 provides an instant New York Times headline generator: Any major news story can be presented as the result of "Russian bots."

The New York Times is making its claims about "Russian meddling" with what is known in the law as "unclean hands." That is, the Times practices the very actions of which it accuses others.

Here is not the place to deal with the long and bloody history of American destabilization campaigns and their horrific consequences in Latin America and the Middle East, or to review the fact that many American journalists serving abroad had dual functions -- as reporters and as agents.

But it is worth noting that, particularly in recent decades, and under the auspices of Editorial Page editor James Bennet, there has been a remarkable integration of the Times with the major operations of the US intelligence agencies.

This is particularly true with regard to Russia, in regard to which the Times acts as an instrument of US foreign policy misinformation, practicing exactly what it accuse the Kremlin of.

Take, for example, the so-called political "dissident" Aleksei Navalny. This proponent of extreme nationalism and xenophobia, with deep ties to Russia's fascistic right, and extensive connections to US intelligence agencies, has been championed by the Times as the voice of social dissent in Russia. Despite his miniscule support within Russia, Navalny's activities generate front-page headlines in the Times , which has mentioned him in over 400 separate articles.

Another example is the Times ' promotion of the "feminist" rock band Pussy Riot, which makes a habit of getting themselves arrested by taking their clothes off in Russian Orthodox churches, and whose fate the Times holds up as a horrific example of Russian oppression. The very name "Pussy Riot," which in typical usage is not even translated into Russian, expresses the fact that this operation aims to influence American, and not Russian, public opinion.

In 2014, the Times met with members of Pussy Riot at their editorial offices, and have since extensively promoted the group, having mentioned it in over 400 articles. The term "anti-Putin opposition" is mentioned in another 600 articles.

The logic of the Times ' campaign was expressed most clearly by its columnist Thomas Friedman, the personification of the pundit as state intelligence mouthpiece whose career was aptly summed up in a biography titled Imperial Messenger . In a column published on February 18 ("Whatever Trump is Hiding is Hurting All of US Now"), Friedman declares a "code red" threat to the integrity of American democracy.

"At a time when the special prosecutor Robert Mueller -- leveraging several years of intelligence gathering by the F.B.I., C.I.A. and N.S.A. -- has brought indictments against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian groups -- all linked in some way to the Kremlin -- for interfering with the 2016 U.S. elections," Friedman writes, "America needs a president who will lead our nation's defense against this attack on the integrity of our electoral democracy."

This "defense," according to Friedman, would include "bring[ing] together our intelligence and military experts to mount an effective offense against Putin -- the best defense of all." In other words, war.

The task of all war propaganda is to divert internal social tensions outwards, and the Times ' campaign is no different. Its aim is to take the anger that millions of people feel at a society riven by social inequality, mass alienation, police violence, and endless war, and pin it on some shady foreign adversary.

The New York Times ' claims of Russian "meddling" in the Parkland shooting set the tone for even more hysterical coverage in the broadcast evening news. NBC News cited Jonathan Morgan, another collaborator on the Hamilton 68 project, who declared that Russia is "really interested in sowing discord amongst Americans. That way we're not focused on putting a unified front out to foreign adversaries."

The goal of the ruling class and its media accomplices is to put on "a unified front" through the suppression of social opposition within the United States. Along these Lines, NBC added, "Researchers tell us it's not just Russia deploying these attacks on social media," adding "many small independent groups are trying to divide Americans and create chaos."

Who are these "small independent groups" seeking to "create chaos"? By this, they no doubt mean any news or political organization that dares question the official line that everything is fine in America, and that argues that the horrendous levels of violence that pervade American society are somehow related to social inequality and the wars supported and justified by the entire US political establishment