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Federal bureaucracy blunders in handling COVID-19 epidemic in the USA

Neoliberal MSM dance around human mortality and fearmongering to get more revenue  provoked real panic. The USA government did not have a plan for coronavirus outbreak and improvises as events unfold 

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Introduction

The virus epidemic which started in the USA in full force in March will probably follow Chinese pattern.  Which means the time to the peak will be around two-three months (which means in summer the epidemics start subsiding.) 

Might be shorter taking into account drastic measures taken by some state like NY, NJ, California and Washington. Currently NewYork is the epicenter of the epidemics.

As of March 21 we still see typical for initial stages of any flu epidemic exponential increase of cases, with  the number of patient doubling in approx. three days but very low number of critical cases.

Date Total cases Day increase Serious Deaths Recovered Notes
3/22 33,546 38.57% 64 396 178  
3/21 24,208 24.88% 64 279 147  
3/20 19,384 40.58% 64 160    
3/19 13,789 48.93% 12 124    
3/18 9,259 44.42% 12 94   10K mark
3/17 6,411 37.49% 12 93    
3/16 4,663 26.71% 10      
3/15 3,680 25.04% 10      
3/14 2,943 30.97%        
3/13 2,247 32.33%        
3/12 1,698 24.49%        
3/11 1,364 37.22%        
3/10 994 41.19%       1K mark
3/9 704 30.13%        
3/8 541 24.37%        
3/7 435 36.36%        
3/6 319 44.34%        
3/5 221 39.87%        
3/4 158 27.42%        
3/3 124 24.00%        
3/2 100 33.33%       100 mark
3/1 75          

Starting from 100K cases the rate of increate will probably slow down. Number of infections among medical personnel are unavailable  (worldometers.info

It took the USA eight days to get from 100 cases to 1000 and another eight days to get from 1K to 10K.  Some of the dynamics  can be explained the low availability of test kits  -- this was the area where CDC royally screwed the US population

Unfortunately, the current atmosphere increasingly exhibits the characteristics of a collective panic—and that is always a poor basis for intelligent policy decisions.

The neoliberal society with its twisted guiding philosophy of radical individualism and competition combined with a supremacist “that could never happen here” attitude quickly falls into panicked chaos when reality kicks in and reveals the society’s underlying vulnerabilities. Countries with weak social safety nets and an ideological opposition to social responsibility are extremely vulnerable to systemic breakdown when their societies are hit with unexpected stress. That is what we see in the USA. This virus is revealing just how ineffective the neoliberal social Darwinism (“every man for himself”) ethic  (aka "neoliberal rationality") is and how deeply in denial and out of touch with reality these societies are. Including first of all neoliberal politicians.

The for-profit health system in the USA is certainly is very efficient in raking in cash for insurance companies and big pharma. But health care outcomes are mediocre at best and other countries do a far better job for far less money. The most basic needs of patients and health care workers are often unmet. Health care workers complain they haven’t received proper training putting them in danger of infection and do not have supplies to protect themselves even as they treat COVID-19 patients. And that's in richest country in the world.

...system can’t provide enough hand sanitizer the governor of New York came up with a solution. Andrew Cuomo announced that the state will produce hand sanitizer made by prison labor .

The original reaction in the United States government to the corona outbreak was surprisingly casual. And that despire multiple intelligence againces who supposedly produce beefing for the President and other key figures of the administration (U.S. intelligence reports from January and February warned about a likely pandemic ).  Early on it was clear the older population will be hit hard, but administration did not close access to senior care centers.  They did nothing to rump up local production of masks and other clothing necessary for medical personnel to fight infection. Medics, who are in most danger among all population groups,  were not systematically trained by  Koreans (the USA has two month to do so).  Proper protocols were not established. This was the major blunder of Trump administration and the case of bureaucratic incompetence what will be studying in books. 

At the same time some facts point out that the danger of this epodemics is systematically distorted (https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/)

In the absence of data, prepare-for-the-worst reasoning leads to extreme measures of social distancing and lockdowns. Unfortunately, we do not know if these measures work. School closures, for example, may reduce transmission rates. But they may also backfire if children socialize anyhow, if school closure leads children to spend more time with susceptible elderly family members, if children at home disrupt their parents ability to work, and more. School closures may also diminish the chances of developing herd immunity in an age group that is spared serious disease.

The USA government behaviour  drastically changed in March 11 with Trump's surprise announcement of cancelling air travel from EU countries for 30 days. Initially GB and Ireland were excluded, which provide for strangled travelers a "window" of escape. Later they were added.  Still all this was badly planned and caused major panic with ticket prices for the last flights from EU to the USA skyrocketing.

CDC blunders is another parts of the story of bureaucratic incompetence. CDC did not launch the training of medical personnel to use protective gear, despite that the fact that the virus severely affected medical personnel in Wuhan.  There was no efforts to launch additional production of masks and ventilators domestically, despite that fact that both are known bottlenecks. There were only very limited attempt to establish the screening and mandatory quarantine of passengers in airports, arriving from international flights. There were no attempt to supply hospitals in large cities with additional ventilators, masksa.  and similar protection gear. Looks like the USA government wasted the whole February and met flaring up of infections in March unprepared.  And what is most important CDC botched the production and distribution of virus tests leaving the country without them till late March, when tesing can change nothing. Gin was out of the bottle. 

It seems the CDC, NIH and the USA privatized health care system in general was caught flat-footed as if they didn't have any plan to execute.  Currently CDC does not even provide the information about how this particular virus spreads (Transmission of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) CDC):

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.

Spread from contact with infected surfaces or objects

It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

At the same time Trump attempted to fight panic spread by  neoliberal MSM as for mortality and that's a positive part of the government response ( Trump disputes World Health Organization death rate )

Asked about WHO's coronavirus fatality rate findings during an interview Wednesday, Trump told Fox News host Sean Hannity: "Well, I think the 3.4% is really a false number."

He added, "now, this is just my hunch ... based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this, because a lot of people will have this, and it's very mild."

Trump later put the number at less than 1%.

Later events proved that he was right.

While some problems that the USA now experience with coronavirus are the direct or indirect result of blunders (like CDC blunder with test kits; of overcrowding of returning passengers in airports on arrival from Europe after the fight ban), some are not.  Many things are rooted deeply in neoliberal globalization and perverted neoliberal rationality. Both make proper reaction to dangerous epidemic almost impossible. So by-and-large the USA current problems were unavoidable.

Also in epidemics like in war mistakes are to be made. At the same time repeating Chinese mistakes was pain vanilla incompetence. Classic bureaucratic incompetence, if you wish. While there are no perfect responses in the current environment (the availability of a vaccine would change everything), the earlier government reacted, the slower the virus would spread. But under neoliberal globalization any reaction entails severe economic disruption, and that means that the measures were postponed till it's to late for them to be affective while providing the same level of economic disruption.  Meanwhile large sectors of the economy, here and abroad, are nearly collapsing because of fears about COVID-19 epidemics that are not entirely justified.

Watch the interviews below. Dr. Anthony Fauci who is the head of the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) This high level "medical diplomat"  in his March interviews carefully avoid mentioning that fact that CDC completely botched producing and distributing test kits and the government did nothing substantial to combat the virus the whole February. Most airports did not perform even elementary screening of arriving passengers.  And the operation of returning the US citizens from Europe after travel with EU countries was banned was also completely botched. All February the administration essentially was allowing the flow infected passengers from Italy and France without screening and quarantine  (two severely hit by COVID-19 countries with large tourists flows from the USA) to spread the disease in the USA:

But there is some progress. With national emergency declared on Feb 13, FEMA's USD 50 billion is unlocked to fight the COVID-19 pandemic. FEMA is one of the few federal institutions which still works and works well.

Arrival of warm weather on Eastern Coast may significantly change the dynamic of epidemics, slow down infections and help NYC, which is the most severe affected on this coast and the most densely populated area.  

Measures for self-isolation of seniors like California tries now is of vital importance and it should have been done much earlier, because the USA has advantage of Chinese experience with this epidemic (which it by-and-large ignored). This was not done. There should also be the prohibition of air trips and remove vacations (including cruise ships) for this category of people. Violators they put their own life and lives of other people especially medical personnel in unnecessary danger. Seniors are the major factor is overcrowding of intensive care beds in the hospitals.  Trying to protect them from this virus is probably the most important part of "flattening the curve" efforts.

The USA has a lower population density than other affected countries so outside of large cities like New York it is in much better position  to suppress the epidemics. Large parts of the country such as Texas already have warm weather  which typically helps to suppress such epidemics.

Globally COVID-19 is spreading more slowly then in the USA slowly: 69K cases on Feb 15 vs. 162K cases on March 15: in other words the number of cases  approx. doubled in one month period. Assuming that the next month will be same and then epidemic start to subside replicating the shape of the curve before the peak,  we will have globally around 162+324+162K=648K or something like half-million cases total for this virus

The delay between the shutdown in Wuhan and a fall in new daily cases was 12 days . That suggests that in two weeks  from now we will probably see a drop in the number of new cases in the US. But that is not guaranteed.

The priority is to slow down the spread of the disease to lessen overcrowding of hospital beds with severe cases.

At the same time there are multiple cases of selfish, reckless behaviour of a part of the population.  Some young people from closed schools and universities engage in travel as tickets and hotels are dirt cheap now. Those who carry the virus are spreading the infection with them.   Some people who are at risk are not wearing mask and engage in reckless behaviour disrespecting community interests such as shopping using public transport or other encounters with large number of people. Years of neoliberalism brainwashing  ("Greed is good", "shareholder value" mantra, glorification of unlimited predatory competition as in Latin saying "homo homini lupus est") converted a large part of the US population into  greedy and selfish animals,   and while such people concentrate in FIRE sector, other segment of population  are also severely affected.  The situation is especially bad in NYC. 

Years of neoliberalism brainwashing converted some part of the US population into greedy and selfish animals and this epidemic and while such people concentrate in FIRE sector, other segment of population are also severely affected. Epidemic of hoarding also had shown the ugly face of neoliberal rationality in full grace. The situation is especially bad in NYC. 

So far infections are clustered within families and friends of initially infected persons. For example, if wife is infected, the husband and children typically became infected too. Common spreading centers are religious gatherings and conferences. The same danger represents  travelling with the infected person in public transport if he/she is not wearing a mask, or any other close and prolonged contact. Most of initial US patients had recently visited Wuhan or attended meeting/conference were at least one infected person  was present.  "Community spread" cases, where person was infected in transport or public places like grocery shops like on this early state of epidemic are relatively rare.

Judging from China experience the next two months in the USA will be "interesting times."  The lower you are in the "wealth pyramid" the  worse it is for you. Particularly for the elderly underclass.

peterAUS, February 26, 2020 at 12:23 am GMT 

@Delta G

Is the Chinese Government using the Corona outbreak as a cover for some other purpose?

Definitely. Iranian too. Related to trade war/sanctions I feel. The bottom line, everybody on top wins, in this game. Say….up to 20 %. The rest are designated losers. Lower in the pyramid worse it is. The elderly underclass in particular. Good gig…for some. So far works like charm.

Critique of the "flattening the curve" approach adopted by the USA

Adapted from the article by John P.A. Ioannidis https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

Yet if the health system does become overwhelmed, the majority of the extra deaths may not be due to coronavirus but to other common diseases and conditions such as heart attacks, strokes, etc that are not adequately treated. If the level of the epidemic does overwhelm the health system and extreme measures have only modest effectiveness, then flattening the curve may make things worse: Instead of being overwhelmed during a short, acute phase, the health system will remain overwhelmed for a more protracted period. That’s another reason we need data about the exact level of the epidemic activity.

One of the bottom lines is that we don’t know how long ockdowns can be maintained without major consequences to the economy and society. Hyping the threat by MSM already produced harding epidemic in the USA.    Unpredictable evolutions may ensue, including financial crisis.

At a minimum, we need unbiased prevalence and incidence data for the evolving infectious load to guide decision-making.

In the most pessimistic scenario, which I do not espouse, if the new coronavirus infects 60% of the global population and 1% of the infected people die, that will translate into more than 40 million deaths globally, matching the 1918 influenza pandemic.

The vast majority of this hecatomb would be people with limited life expectancies. That’s in contrast to 1918, when many young people died.

Hoarding epidemics

We can discuss whether CODID-19 represents a pandemic or not, but hoarding epidemics in the USA is very real.

It also feels like a scam: there is no shortage of snake oil sellers who hope stoking such fears will make people buy more supplies. The reality is that there is little point “preparing“ for the most catastrophic scenarios some of these people envision. As a species, we live and die by our social world and  infrastructure — and outside some minimal stocks (say two weeks supply of food in areas affected by infection  and which might be subject to quarantine (which are currently only two cities in the  US.) Moreover, it is difficult to predict  what will be needed in the face of total catastrophe (Preparing for Coronavirus to Strike the U.S. - Scientific American Blog Network ). You can't drink sanitizer and you need minimal amount of it when you are outside of home. In all other cases regular soap is more effective against this virus,  so hoarding sanitizer is far from the best move you can make:

American Association for the Advancement of Science By Derek Lowe 4 March, 2020

ScienceMag - Pipeline

Since this is going to be a post about the coronavirus, let's start off with this PSA: wash your hands. These viruses have a lipid envelope that is crucial to their structure and function, and soaps and detergents are thus very effective at inactivating them. It's fast, it's simple, and it's one of the more useful things that any individual can do under these conditions.

The real crisis scenarios we’re likely to encounter require cooperation and, crucially, “flattening the curve” of the crisis   which includes sharing not hoarding, so the more vulnerable (older folks) can fare better and our social world and the infrastructure will be less stressed.  For those who can do it that way that means switching to work from home and avoiding unnecessary travel and meetings.  Most think those days can be done via phone of via teleconferencing.

We do not need to contribute to the panic, and to panic  buying isopropyl alcohol and hand sanitizers as if there no tomorrow. From state to state, shelves at grocery stores are being emptied. Community after community is stocking up on essential goods as they anticipate a very remote (or non-existent  in many areas of the country ) possibility our of fears of forced  China style self-quarantine.  In reality only retired persons in areas with active cases of infection need to self-quarantine as they are the most vulnerable and can overwhelm  hospitals. They generally should stay home, avoid direct contact with relatives  and friends (which are rare those days, anyway, so no big deal) , and do only rare shopping which should exclude all shopping for clothing, etc.  They need a lot of exposure to sun, vitamins, flesh air to boost the immune system. Abandoning bad  habits like smoking would be nice too. No or minimal visits to restaurants, entertainment centers like casino,  or God forbid cruise ships or international travel. For the sake of everyone else, they should prepare to stay home for a few weeks, while epidemic burns out in their neighborhood  and try their best not to be infected.  This way they will reduce their own risks, but most importantly, they will reduce the burden on health care and delivery infrastructure and allow frontline workers to reach and help the most vulnerable.

What does “flattening the curve” mean for the current COVID-19 threat facing us: the emerging pandemic of this human coronavirus? Epidemiologists often talk about two important numbers: R0 or how infectious a disease might be, expressed as the number of people that are infected by each person who’s been infected; and the case fatality ratio (CFR): the number of people who die as a result of being infected. For example, an R0 of two means each infected person infects two people on average, while a number less than one means the disease is likely dying out in the population. Some diseases are deadlier than others: the average case fatality ratio for Ebola has been around 50 percent, for example, while the common cold is rarely deadly for otherwise healthy individuals.

The infectiousness of a virus, for example, depends on how much we encounter one another; how well we quarantine individuals who are ill; how often we wash our hands; whether those treating the ill have proper protective equipment; how healthy we are to begin with—and such factors are all under our control. After active measures were implemented, the R0 for the 2003 SARS epidemic, for example, went from around three, meaning each person infected three others, to 0.04. It was our response to SARS in 2003 that made sure the disease died out from earth, with less than a thousand victims globally.

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All of this means that the only path to flattening the curve for COVID-19 is community-wide isolation: the more people stay home, the fewer people will catch the disease. The fewer people who catch the disease, the better hospitals can help those who do. Crowding at hospitals doesn’t just threaten those with COVID-19; if emergency rooms are overwhelmed, more flu patients, too, will die because of lack of treatment, for example.

But what we see in the USA is primitive and destructive hoarding epidemic. Toilet paper, sanitary wipes and sanitizers are in short supply as stocks are being exhausted. As of March 3, 2020 a 250 ml (8 ounces) bottle of hand sanitizer on Amazon was $60 or so (while its regular price is $2 or so ;-).  This is not only ridiculous but it beats "socialist back market"  prices.

Ana

I know someone who is the head of security in the SF Bay for a large big box membership store that all of us in the States are familiar with. Their stores in the SF Bay area have been selling out of water, hand sanitizers, gloves, masks and other similar cleaning supplies, along with boxed mac and cheese and similar long shelf life foods.

Their regional supply center that brings replacement supply in over night by semi trucks has not been able to refill it’s own pallets from suppliers. He just texted me pics of local big box stores in the Bay with empty shelves and no back stock is available. I can’t find info on sales of things like generators. I don’t care what soothing nonsense the TV and feds blather at us. People are trying to get what they think they need to cope with serious disruption.

Ana in Sacramento.

P.S. By the way, I was one of the paper pushers who designed emergency response and business resumption plans for the State of California. This event was never considered or planned for. I’m retired so it may have been added after I left.

The dynamic of the USA panic can be watched via Amazon prices for those items and as of March 7 the panic is still in full swing  (you can buy the same 250 ml(8 ounces) bottle for mere $35 ;-) .   And they used to say that such hoarding behaviour is typical only for socialism ;-).

Starting from March 13 federal and local governments jumped into action

And despite chaotic and botched containment of epidemic (CDC botched development and production of test kits so badly that the officials responsible probably should be tried for criminal negligence ) the USA government managed already take several measures to slow down the spread of the virus (please note that time is working against the virus -- warm weather in East cost will come in May or even earlier).

For example, starting Sunday, Feb. 2, the US citizens, permanent residents and immediate family who have visited China's Hubei province undergo a mandatory 14 days quarantine. On Mar 11, Trump administration prohibited all flights from Europe firs exampling  UK and Ireland and later adding them.  

On Mar 13 Trump has declared the coronavirus a US national emergency and offered $50 billion for support of state and local governments to fight the virus with FEMA.

At the same time the US Fed has increased its public support of the global private banking system in amounts looking to total in the trillions of dollars and our Congress Critters are setting up to re-authorize the Patriot Act suppression of human rights.

On March 15 CDC recommended that all gatherings of more than 50 people within the United States be canceled for the next 8 weeks.

The same day California ordered all bars and nightclubs to shut their doors, restaurants to cut the number of tables in half and for millions of seniors and people with chronic health conditions to immediately “self-isolate” at home (mercurynews.com)

As the coronavirus continues its rapid spread, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Sunday afternoon issued an urgent call for all California, restaurants to cut the number of tables in half and for millions of seniors and people with chronic health conditions to immediately “self-isolate” at home.

Newsom’s unprecedented call for action is designed to slow the infection rate, especially among the most vulnerable. The governor stopped short of asking eating establishments to shut their doors, saying the need for food service during the pandemic remained vital.

“We need to prioritize our focus,” Newsom said during an hour-long press conference in Sacramento. “We are looking at this from a very holistic perspective.”

It was unclear how long the self-quarantine for seniors should continue.

NYC closed all schools staring Monday, March 16, 2020. NJ followed the suit.  Both states resorted to pretty drastic measures. All schools, entertainment outlets such as bars, nightclubs and non-essential shops are closed in NY and NJ.   Meetings over 50 people prohibited. Malls are also closes in some counties. 

The colossal failure with production and distribution of tests by CDC

The CDC stunning failure to provide the coronavirus testing kits needed to control the spread of the outbreak is a national outrage. Their incompetence threatens to increase the scope and prolong the  duration of epidemics and contributes to troubles that now the USA economy experience.

It is unlearn why the CDC failed to make mass production of test kits its top priority and who is responsible. But it is clear that heads should roll (The Mercury News editorial,

South Korea is testing 20,000 people every day, thanks to a biotech firm that anticipated the threat in January. South Korea is providing free tests for anyone a doctor deems necessary at more than 100 facilities across the nation. The result is that South Korea is now seeing more recoveries than new cases.

Contrast that with the state of California, which has only 10 million fewer people than South Korea. Gov. Gavin Newsom said Thursday that the state has been provided with 8,227 testing kits from the CDC. But some of those kits did not contain all the chemicals needed to administer them to Californians — a glaring failure given that it’s been nearly two months since the coronavirus outbreak began in China.

Newsom compared it to “going to the store and purchasing a printer, but forgetting to purchase the ink. You need multiple components.”

All told, as of Friday [Mar13, 2020], California had conducted a total of only 1,573 tests at its 18 state test labs.

The problem stems from the CDC’s botched first effort to mass produce test kits, followed by delays in sending promised replacement kits for several weeks.

“The incompetence has really exceeded what anyone would expect with the CDC,” Dr. Michael Mina, an epidemiologist at Harvard University, told the New York Times. “This is not a difficult problem to solve in the world of viruses.”

Testing is crucial to slowing the spread of the disease because it allows those who are infected to be quarantined. Health officials can then trace who they may have been in contact with and test and possibly quarantine those people.

It’s essential that Congress investigate what went wrong and take steps to prevent it from happening during the next inevitable infectious disease threat. But that’s for another day. The focus now must be on taking steps to minimize further spread of coronavirus and its impact on people and the economy.

The state is turning to its major hospitals and private labs for additional help. It’s possible that their testing sites could be up and running in the next week. President Trump’s declaration of a national emergency on Friday could also eliminate red tape and speed the testing process.

Once upon a time, the United States was the global leader in fighting infectious diseases and serving as the provider for testing kits to the world. Those days are long gone. The CDC must act to make up for its incompetence and take whatever steps necessary to protect Americans against current and future outbreaks.

The CDC must also give clear direction on how hospitals can treat patients during this national emergency. It is not done. China recommended three drugs that can help some patients. CDC does not provided any recommendations at all.

A botched implementation of cutting air travel with Europe

Abrupt announcement caused panic and airports on arrival became so overcrowded that they became epicenter of spreading the decease: they manage to replicate the situation that was far worse that exists on cruise ships with many thousand of people.

Can air conditioners that re-circulate air spread the virus?

Air conditioners are also known to circulate air-borne diseases such as Legionairre’s Disease, a potentially fatal infectious disease that produces high fever and pneumonia. For efficiency air-conditioned on cruise ships, bases and airplanes mix fresh air with the already circulated air and this is a concern. For example, some experts think that in Diamond Princess cruise ship epidemic AC might help to spread the virus to all cabin

Currently there is no strong evidence to support the claim that the virus can be transmitted through the air conditioner recirculation. It is believed to be spread mainly through droplets on close contact with infected person (less then 2m). In this case the mucus or saliva of an infected person who sneezes or coughs can be inhaled and infect the person.  This virus is likely to die when the droplets dry up (Can the coronavirus be spread through the air, Singapore News & Top Stories - The Straits Times):

Experts say if the virus could really survive even after the droplets carrying it have dried up, it would have spread through the air as dust particles and potentially infected 10 times more people, which is not the case.

Last week, a Shanghai official, Mr Zeng Qun, said the virus could spread through aerosol transmission, or the mixing of the virus with airborne liquid droplets.

This would allow the virus to linger in the air and infect those who inhale it, he said. Diseases that are known to spread this way include tuberculosis, chicken pox and measles.

But an infectious diseases expert at the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, Mr Feng Luzhao, refuted this on Sunday, stating that the droplets carrying the virus travel only about 1m to 2m and do not stay suspended in the air. This is why you are unlikely to catch the virus through transient (or short-term) contact such as on public transport.

Ultraviolet rays and heat from the sun can kill the virus as virus does not last long on fresh air in a sunny day.  This is true for all viruses. The likelihood of viral persistence outdoors is lower, as most studies indicate that viruses do not survive in hot and humid environments. This refers to a temperature of over 30C and a humidity level of over 80 per cent.

Using humidifier at home and maintaining 50% humidity might  help to protect you and family members.


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[Jul 29, 2021] The Size of SARS-CoV-2 and its Implications

The virus which is probably 50nm to 140nm in size travel only within water drops (aeirosol). The size of areosol particles are much bigger and masks provide good protection against them, if they are clean or periodically disinfected and the person does not wear the same mask for more then 2 hours.
Jul 29, 2021 | www.news-medical.net

For example, respiratory droplets are typically 5-10 micrometers (µm) in length; therefore, it can be inferred that an individual who ingests, inhales, or is otherwise exposed to SARS-CoV-2 positive respiratory droplets can be exposed to hundreds or thousands of virus particles which increases the probability of infection.

Respiratory droplets can be transmitted through coughing, sneezing, contact with contaminated surfaces, or even through inhaled aerosols; therefore, each individual must take adequate steps to reduce their exposure to these particles by wearing masks and practicing safe social distance measures.

[Jul 29, 2021] Who Watches The Watchmen -- Fauci's Noble Lie Exposed

Gain of function research was essentially a backdoor for development biological weapons. Poerful forces wnated to keep thisdoor open. And then we got SAV-CpV-2 virus and they now try to swipe the dirt under the carpet.
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Six months ago, I began my first article on scientific censorship during COVID-19 by introducing Dr. Fauci as a surprise character that had emerged unexpectedly while digging through what was then 83,000 FOIA emails, published by US Right-to-Know over the course of the last year:

[see files related to Ralph Baric , Linda Saif , Rita Colwell , Colorado State/Rocky Mountain National Laboratory & the NCBI ; other FOIA releases from Judicial Watch, Buzzfeed & the Washington Post include NIH funding of the WIV & Dr. Fauci's emails ]

I've been trying for quite some time to get people to understand the full scope of the Dr. Fauci 'situation,' but it's clear that segments of our national leadership are preventing an honest and open inquiry into his actions because they fear the backlash/collateral damage that will result from the tarnishing of their sacred cow. It's time Americans were told the truth - that the grant money sent to the Wuhan Institute of Virology [WIV] is merely a footnote in this narrative. After all, Dr. Fauci controls nearly $4 billion of annual grant funding for the NIAID, the institute within the NIH he has directed since 1984; over 37 years, more than 50,000 research projects have been supported with more than $50 billion [conservatively] of taxpayer funds have been doled out to them.

It's reasonable to hold him accountable for the results of his organization's efforts, but the direct funding received by the WIV for Gain-of-Function (GOF) research represents only a tiny fraction of Fauci's involvement in enabling risky research - the 2017 repeal of the GOF ban was decided without the consultation of the Trump administration, even though news coverage during the pandemic blamed him for the decision. Neither Fauci nor his boss Francis Collins [the NIH director] bothered to clarify the record, which looks especially disgusting in the wake of persistent rejections of Senator Rand Paul's assertions [with accompanying evidence] that the NIH ever financially supported such research:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Pnb2Yxri6eY

Contents:

First, do no harm to Fauci's Legacy

It's important to plainly state that I'm aware of the intense politicization of virtually every aspect of the pandemic and the pandemic response. Since many readers may not be aware, I'll point out that my specific motivation for building a COVID-19 website and speaking to a broader audience about the various facets of the pandemic was to offer unfiltered information to counter the disgusting polarization I observed:

I felt obligated to re-iterate my stance, but the nature and importance of the situation can't be ignored any longer, because Congress is now actively engaged in investigating the pandemic's origins, and we must confront the truth if we are to gain meaningful insight that can help us prepare for future crises. There is no level of partisanship that justifies ignoring a tragedy of this magnitude.

"Everything rises and falls on leadership" - John Maxwell

It's hard to place a dollar value on the impact of Fauci's leadership decisions upon almost all aspects of the COVID-19 pandemic, which is why it's not difficult to understand the willingness of some to avoid a legitimate inquiry into the issue altogether. After all, he sits at the nexus of -

A) the NIH's role in supporting the research & development of mRNA technology and new antiviral drugs like Remdesivir, and the resulting conflicts of interest that the NIH continues to ignore

B) His role in pushing those NIH-sponsored inventions; specifically, advocating for Remdesivir on the basis of weak evidence while rejecting legitimate investigations into generic alternatives with no less statistical support, as well as

C) His role in obfuscating concerning data and censoring public debate over the risk/benefit evidence emerging about COVID-19 vaccines. Had Fauci been bluntly honest about the unknowns involving the new technology throughout the pandemic, Americans would still largely have assumed the risk - at least, assuming that antibody dependent enhancement [ADE] was not a likely outcome. Oops.

D) His evolving stances on masking, lockdowns, school closures and other non-pharmaceutical interventions [NPI], largely the result of growing public awareness that those decisions have consistently been based upon reducing the accountability of cowardly officials, not the best interest of their constituents [Note: this is a conclusion from my research focus last year, that I will return to once the origin issue allows me to do so].

E) His refusal to address the blatant censorship of vaccine side-effect data; it takes a disturbing level of cynicism to witness the large-scale skepticism and uncertainty that has resulted from such censorship and then vilify those willing to speak up - and blaming them for any future vaccine breakout when one of the most likely causes would be ADE. ADE with SARS-CoV-2 would most likely result from the specific targeting of the MRNA vaccines, not vaccine hesitancy [in the absence of a simultaneous global administration of the jabs - which was never feasible under the geopolitical and temporal constraints of the pandemic.

Each of those factors has contributed to the fading perception of Fauci as 'America's Doctor, but each has also become a divisive litmus test for which the evidence for and against is hotly debated. My purpose here is not to offer judgment on those issues; rather, I want to highlight the fact that Dr. Fauci's legacy includes elements far beyond the scope of my research - and the context of those debates is directly relevant for the proper framing of the failures illuminated here. The same hubris and gaslighting in defense of ' Science' has plagued everything.

My disgust doesn't stem from casual reflection & an exaggeration of weak assertions to fan partisan flames. It stems from my analysis of 100K pages of FOIA documents, 1,000+ research articles reviewed, and my own published analysis of the the impact of Fauci's censorship , which was the 1st of its kind:

My approach was external to science - from the perspective of an historian seeking to understand the 'why' behind the further collapse of trust in our institutions during the pandemic. My conclusions were formed over six months of investigation, and focused on the realization that one of the worst developments of the pandemic is the evaporation of public trust in scientists [see Edifice Wrecks ]. I've never sought to inflame conspiracies or ignore evidence in support of zoonosis , but I've personally entered into discussions with a half-dozen of the scientists highlighted below, and none of them ever addressed the emerging evidence that, under normal circumstances, would've been part of the open debate that Fauci pretends already took place.

Every additional moment spent in denial and suppression just adds fuel to the coming backlash, and thus far discussions have ignored what I believe is the largest and most consequential elephant in the room:

F) Fauci quietly but directly ensured that scientific censorship was implemented, in large measure, to prevent public awareness of the extent of his role in GOF research and the controversies surrounding it. The evidence proves that, at the start of the pandemic, Dr. Fauci and many leading scientists moved to protect themselves - not us, who weren't yet aware of the potential calamity at our doorstep. Fauci LED the efforts to obstruct research into COVID's origins, colluding with the President's Science Advisor Kelvin Dreogemeier and Wellcome Trust head Jeremy Farrar, to proactively undermine consideration of the evidence that directly tied their global research initiatives to the lab at the center of the COVID-19 pandemic.

To date, all of their efforts have been focused on preventing disclosure of embarrassing connections - not preventing another novel pathogen from sparking a global pandemic; to prevent future scrutiny, not future tragedy .

Scientists, if you're struggling to understand the distinction between degrees of commitment to truth, I offer the example of Thích Quảng Đức , pictured here protesting the corrupt S. Vietnam regime in a prologue of the Vietnam War:

You see, the message for scientists who believe that a threat is existential is that words gain true meaning when they are supported by the actions & sacrifices of the speaker. What message are we supposed to derive from the COVID-19 pandemic?

I'd recommend pausing for reflection - on the image above, specifically - because what the world is beginning to see is that the scientific establishment made a mockery of the trust it had been given. The world's leading experts in virology and public health called attention to a threat by setting the world on fire, rather than themselves - and then blaming us for being too simple to believe their noble lie.

Priorities

The baseline assumption of the public at large has been that Dr. Fauci has earned the benefit of the doubt thanks to his five decades of public service and consistency in defending establishment science - the admiration of which has risen nearly to cult worship in recent decades. The cognitive dissonance between appearance and reality have created a situation where trust in 'science' has reached its sacred peak at the exact moment when such trust is least deserved .

At the center of this incestuous arrogance is Dr. Anthony Fauci, the recipient of unquestioned adulation by those in the political sphere who have spent more than a century arguing that a Platonic 'philosopher-king' ideal must be forced upon intellectually vacuous masses whom, left to their own devices, would inevitably self-immolate.

Scientists reached new heights in the ivory tower when they warned us that man's evil nature had left previous generations protected only by the horrific death equation of Mutually Assured Destruction . Setting aside the obvious complicity of scientists in the creation of nuclear weapons, trusting science over many decades has simply led to a new formulation of that Faustian bargain - Mutually Assured Corruption.

A Study in Scarlet

Before heading down the long and winding road, it's important to explain what zoonosis is and why Fauci's denial of basic facts simply kicks the accountability can down the road. Should we really be surprised that Dr. Fauci is 'confused' by the definition of "Gain if Function?" After all, not that long ago, he also ridiculed the idea that the virus could've come from a lab before finally admitting that it was a statistical possibility.

Zoonosis in the context of viral emergence doesn't mean a virus originally sprung from nature - all viruses do. It means that the jump from animals to humans happened in the wild, as the result of a fortuitous combination of mutations that allow a virus to survive the switch. If human intervention artificially encouraged the process of adaptation by experimentation, or simply by virtue of bringing a virus to a lab and increasing the odds of such exposure, then the origin of a viral pandemic is a lab.

What's sickening about his tortured twisting of language is that Fauci knows this better than almost anyone; thus his lies aren't borne of ignorance. What he's done is use his scientific gravitas to pretend that observers' understanding of literal definitions is flawed because we are too ignorant to appreciate the complexity of the issues. The truth, however, is that our generation's most prominent infectious disease expert is gaslighting the citizens of the country he swore an oath to protect [one could also use the term epistemic injustice ].


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10 questions for Fauci:

1) Where did the buck stop? In 2014, who served as the final approval authority for Baric's pending research, which ultimately allowed it to be grandfathered under the impending GOF ban? Why did the experiment not get forwarded to Chris Hassell's committee for review?

-why did no one notice that the experiment included the use of humanized mice to increase human pathogenicity, which David Relman had asked Ralph Baric about directly in November of 2014, and which Baric denied any current research interest in that area?

-Coincidentally, it was also the research that Zheng-Li Shi was in North Carolina working with Baric on, and then immediately returned to the Wuhan Institute of Virology and continued in 2016?

2) Holding Dr. Fauci to his word - In 2012, Dr. Fauci called for an open, public debate on the GOF issue, saying that scientists should justify their research to the broader public any time the risks of such research carried a non-negligible probability of an accident that could affect them. Why then, in 2017, did the NIH rescind the GOF pause - without first engaging the public or its constitutionally elected president/representatives?

3) Secrecy - What did Peter Daszak tell Erik Stemmy & Alan Embry "off the record" on 1/8/20? When did they pass on the contents of that discussion to Dr. Fauci?

4) Redactions - When did you first learn of the existence of the furin cleavage site within the genome of SARS-CoV-2 -What were the insert/backbone referred to by Marion Koopmans? Was the insert the FCS? Why were emails with the topic heading "humanized mice" redacted?

5) Silence - Why did Victor Dzau and the other two academy presidents of NASEM ultimately remove the forceful pro-zoonotic statements inserted by Daszak et al from the final version of their public letter to the OSTP? What reservations justified that decision, and why did they not speak out when censorship prevented the doubts of others from being published?

6) Selective Inclusion - Why was Robert Kadlec, the HHS Assistant Secretary for Preparedness & Response, not included in any correspondence with Jeremy Farrar or your gathered audience of world-renowned virologists? His deputy is the chair of the PPP oversight panel and he is an expert on C-WMD & biological weapons. The existence of any doubt in the possibility of a zoonotic source [doubts which you harbored] should've made his inclusion mandatory.

-instead, you shaped the information provided to those outside the scientific community.

7) Why were you and Francis Collins the only US officials involved in the 2/1 conference call?

8) Subversion - Did you, Collins or Droegemeier alert Matt Pottinger, Robert Redfield, President Trump or any member of the National Security Council to the substance of the 2/1 conference call, or the decision-making over the next 3 days that led to an un-announced censorship of non-natural origin hypothesis for the origin of SARS-CoV-2? Why not?

9) Diverging Narratives - Jeremy Farrar's experts decided on natural origins of COVID-19 on 3/17? So, Fauci & the Pres. Sci. Adv. lied to us/Trump in the OSTP letter on 2/7? And in 'Proximal,' on 2/16? -written by your future dream team? What was the basis of the 2/4 decision to reject a lab-leak origin and produce " Proximal Origin" - if no additional evidence was added to the 2/16 version prior to its 3/17 online appearance in Nature?

Both Fauci & Farrar explained the general make-up and purpose of a 'group of experts:'

By this point [2/13] 10 days had passed since the 'Proximals' & Fauci had held a second conclave, this time with the OSTP director, that was followed directly by a flurry of peer-reviewed letter, articles and 'collaboration' [collusion] to smother the scientific community with pro-zoonotic propaganda.

10) Prove it? Which evidence, specifically, led to the 'Proximals' reversal from 2/1 to 2/4? The arguments made in the following weeks were pathetically unsubstantiated. If stronger evidence exists, why wouldn't it have been shown.

The answer, of course, is that the driving force behind the shift had nothing to do with the quality or quantity of the supporting evidence.

Paved by Good Intentions

The only proper action for Dr. Fauci to take at this point is to resign immediately, and apologizing for prioritizing the suppression of embarrassing & extensive conflicts of interest, double standards and political decisions masked as sound policy. Ideally, such a statement would include a call for the retraction of Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2 , the most-read [and potentially most impactful] scientific propaganda published in at least a generation. Each of its 5 authors intentionally framed the COVID origin debate around 'evidence' and 'facts' that they couldn't prove, and a finality of their conclusions that the known facts couldn't justify.

These actions are independent of the ultimate answer to the origin question, because the failures of leadership I've described are ethically and morally indefensible, regardless of China's guilt or innocence in the sparking of the pandemic. Any remaining shreds of credibility left in the public's perception of scientists must be salvaged by new leaders who are willing to do what needs to be done to clean the Augean Stables.

Sufficient evidence already exists for Congress to do the right thing moving forward. Given the enormity of the failures, and of the efforts to hide, censor and destroy the credibility of anyone who spoke out against lockdowns, vaccines, masks, generic drugs, mRNA efficacy vs. risks, and the curtailment of numerous constitutional/human rights in the last 18 months, it will take historic leadership to honestly converse with a righteously indignant citizenry [in the US and everywhere else]. We must accept that our current representatives have proven manifestly unqualified to assume such leadership - in the last 6 months, censorship has been expanding, not receding.

The COVID-19 pandemic has manifestly proven that there is no lie so 'noble' that it overrides the rights and wisdom of a free and informed public. That doesn't mean that the public will inherently do better.

It's just acknowledging the inescapable conclusion - that we can't possibly do worse.

C. H. Rixey


PREMIUM 6 hours ago remove link

Doctors take an oath to do no harm.

Fauci is not a doctor! lay_arrow


Dred Nought 4 hours ago

Does this sound like your town:

Everything looks as if it's been patched, needs a coat of paint, needs a repair here and there.

The buildings are worn and the style is from the 1970's or 80's.

But there are lots of brand new sparkling buildings:

The Urology Center. The New Heart Clinic. Women's Health Clinic. Southwest Diaylasis Center, A -1 Testing Labs, Home Health Care of Anytown, etc.

The ONLY business thriving truly are those related to the health scams.

When was the last time you had a doctor or a nurse treat you as if they actually gave a flying crap if you live or die?

For us, not since I was a very small child and they gave us a lollipop when we visited.

We need to quit feeding the beast.

Gwar6.0 2 hours ago

Wow, that was kind of a long winded article when all he needed to say was:

Fauci/Big Pharma/China colluded to make make bioweapons and the vaccines simultaneously so they could release the bioweapons to make money and benefit China and the global elites.

It was a premeditated genocidal attack on humanity. Just say it.

gregga777 5 hours ago (Edited)

This is terrible writing. No one will read this. Why is there no abstract at the beginning? I'm not contesting what he says. But I have no time to read this sort of thing.

Abstract: [Neoliberal] Governments are amoral. Evil people, like Dr. Fauci, thrive within amoral organizations like governments. Give a government unlimited money to spend and expect to see an exponential increase in its Evil acts.

11th_Harmonic 5 hours ago

Need to dig deeper than this little worm named Fauci. He's not the grandmaster of this scheme; he's just one among a group of useful henchmen tasked with rolling-out an agenda that is way above his exorbitant pay grade.

desertboy 3 hours ago remove link

Indeed - this article/author includes far too much self-indulgent poetic-horse****, while (ignorantly) not providing much of the core evidence that has been out there for decades.

As have been articulating here since March 2020, the key issue is not GoF in general, but GoF on Potential Pandemic Pathogens (PPP). That is the where this stuff gets evil, and needs to be the focus.

What is hilarious is that anyone can read/watch "Gain of Function" sessions from last 15 years with cheerleader Fauci, Baric, and his DARPA buddies as the dominant promoters, who glibly dismiss the vocalized concerns (on such GoF on Potential Pandemic Pathogens) by prominent university researchers in these various sessions and conferences.

[Jul 21, 2021] Kary Mullis, on Tony Fauc

Jul 21, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Kary Mullis, on Tony Fauci:
Guy's like Fauci, get up there and start talking, he doesn't know anything really about anything, and I'd say that to his face. Nothing. The man thinks you can take a blood sample and stick it in an electron microscope and if its got a virus in there, you'll know it. He doesn't understand electron microscopy, he doesn't understand medicine, he should not be in a position that he's in. " " Guys like Tony Fauci, does not mind going on the television, in front of the people that pay his salary, and lie directly into the camera. " Kary Banks Mullis, 1993 Nobel Prize Winner, for his PCR Testing Discovery.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8KsH34IGgqBw/

[Jul 21, 2021] Rand Paul Asks DoJ To Investigate Fauci For Lying To Congress - ZeroHedge

Jul 21, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

During an otherwise routine hearing before the Senate, Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci clashed once again over whether President Biden's top COVID advisor had lied to Congress when he insisted back in May that the NIH hadn't finance gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology ( Dr. Fauci also furiously pushed back on the assertion that COVID-19 may have leaked from the lab, before suddenly changing his tune ).

A clearly frazzled Dr. Fauci hurled insults at Sen. Rand Paul (a medical doctor) - "you don't know what you're talking about" , he shouted. However, after the dust settled, several reporters, including a reporter for the Washington Post, stepped up to point out that Dr. Fauci was, in fact, wrong. As we reported as far back as March , the NIH - which Dr. Fauci has been in charge of for decades - helped finance 'gain-of-function' research involving bat coronaviruses (research overseen by Dr. Shi 'Batwoman' Zhengli) via a third-party: EcoHealth Alliance.

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This organization took grant money from the NIH and funneled to the WIV. And the leader of this organization? Dr. Peter Daszak , the same man tasked with investigating the origins of the virus by the WHO.

As Dr. Fauci's attempts to mask his potential culpability in encouraging research that may or may not have contributed to the outbreak that led to the pandemic, Sen. Rand Paul took to Fox News a couple of times last night. And during a prime-time interview with Sean Hannity, he announced that he planned to write a letter to the DoJ and ask that Dr. Fauci be investigated for lying to Congress.

"Is it your belief Senator that he lied to Congress and broke the law?" Hannity asks. "Yes," Sen. Paul responds. "And I will be sending a letter to the Department of Justice asking for a criminal referral."

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During the interview, Paul explains that he has found multiple doctors and scientists to confirm that the research the NIH helped to finance at the WIV was, in fact, gain of function research - which was made illegal for the NIH to finance by the Obama Administration. What's clear is that Dr. Fauci, who led the agency and has been a vocal proponent of gain of function research, as the Australian first reported back in May.

"The NIH funded the lab...but once the public figures out that they were doing very, very dangerous research there...once everybody puts this together, he realizes where the blame is going to attach. He has at least tangential responsibility...if this came from the lab he was funding, my God just imagine the moral culpability the man has."

Paul also cited Dr. Fauci's obvious conflict of interest when it comes to the origins of COVID, and that "he doesn't really have the judgment to be in the position he's in."

Finally, the senator revealed that he has received "at least five death threats" related to his campaign to expose Dr. Fauci's conflict of interest.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/i9h5c4OQMYU

During a different interview on Fox a few hours earlier, Sen. Paul explained how scientists had repeatedly confirmed that the research being done by Dr. Zhengli in Wuhan absolutely constituted gain of function research. "When you talk to other scientists, they're saying it's the epitomy of 'gain-of-function' research. Despite Dr. Fauci's refusal to acknowledge this, it's clear he has a significant "conflict of interest."

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Zx-52WdgZ64

Given the impact that Sen. Paul's comments have made, and the fact that mainstream reporters are starting to acknowledge that he has been, in fact, correct all along, we can't help but wonder: is Dr. Fauci's tenure as America's unofficial COVID czar finally coming to an end? How much longer until he becomes a political liability for the Democrats - at which point he will almost certainly be fired, or forced to resign, as Biden & Co. claim that the "inherited" the doctor from President Trump.


philipat 30 minutes ago (Edited)

Fauci is lying because he has no other choice, his story is collapsing and the Globalists have thrown him under the bus. Don't you think it strange that Buzzfeed was able to get his emails in 2 weeks under an FOIA request while we are still waiting for Hillary's emails?

His Wuhan story is collapsing although I do still think the "leak" may have come from elsewhere - especially given the sudden simultaneous "change of heart" by MSM. And when only two possible explanations are allowed through the Overton window for discussion, they are always BOTH wrong.

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/

And his entire Covid "pandemic" story is collapsing with Dr David Martin's forensic patent history analysis and mounting "vaccine" casualties

There is no variant... not novel... no pandemic. Dr David Martin with Reiner Fuellmich

mobius8curve2 27 minutes ago

Asking the FBI to investigate Fauci is like asking the fox to guard the hen house!!!

Jesus had the same problem when asking Judas Iscariot to watch the bag of money:

https://sumofthyword.com/2017/01/18/the-mystery-of-lawlessness/

Oh-Globits 16 minutes ago

The DOJ?

They'll get right on it...

after they finish investigating Hunter's laptop

philipat 2 minutes ago remove link

Don't forget Weiner's laptop. Remember that? But don't worry it's in the safe possession of the FBI. Hunter's laptop may be a little different because they don't know for sure how many copies were made of the hard drive!!

JimmyJones 44 minutes ago (Edited) remove link

I have no faith in the doj, I do however like Dr Rand Paul knocking that POS Fauci off his high horse and putting him on the defense while exposing him.

Go Rand Go

gaoptimize 37 minutes ago

Rand Paul would be better off using an NGO (Judicial Watch?) to put a case in front of the International Criminal Court in the Hague then trying to get justice from the partially responsible Biden administration.

vril PRO 51 minutes ago

Rand about to be reminded it's baseball season.

Even if it's just optics, he's unfortunately constrained by the fallacy of our federal government. It's worth commending him for sending this message at the very least.

snatchpounder PREMIUM 19 minutes ago

If you're outside the club and lie to congress you'll be prosecuted. If you're inside the club like this quack Fauci and lie to the lawbreakers you will never be prosecuted.

Brushy 13 minutes ago

Still waiting for Clapper to be prosecuted.

snatchpounder PREMIUM 12 minutes ago

Clapper will be prosecuted when hell freezes over.

LikeyMikey 24 minutes ago

Brennen, Clapper, Comey, Clinton(s) and more all lied under oath to Congress and nothing happened. What is going to be different this time? Congress is worthless and neutered

phillyla 8 minutes ago

Eric Holder & Lois Lerner are both still under "Contempt of Congress charges"

luckily that doesn't preclude you from collecting your fat government pension or practicing law /s

I don't even think there is a bench warrant for it

gcjohns1971 15 minutes ago

There will be no investigation.

There will be no prosecution, trial, or conviction.

It won't matter what he has done, or who knows about it.

Federal Government Department heads do not investigate or prosecute one another. They INTENTIONALLY write their regulations, which though passed by no legislature carry legal force along with the moniker "Administrative Law", in such a way that ANYONE can be prosecuted and found guilty. They do this because allowing them unified Legislative and Executive Power within their domains makes them into little kings. And for one to prosecute another's kingdom invites reciprocity.

Read the above paragraph again.

They are Executive Departments with varying degrees of Law Enforcement Authority - FACT.

They all author "Administrative Law" - FACT. (Whether you think this is legal or not given the Article 1 Section 1 specification that "A LL [emphasis mine] Legislative power granted herein shall be vested in the Congress" is another matter.)

They ALL have authored "Administrative Law" so ambiguous and or demanding that ABSOLUTELY ANYONE could be prosecuted and found guilty. - FACT.

The above facts give them the power of Kings to arbitrarily harass, detain, fine, and expropriate ANYONE INCLUDING EACH OTHER.

For that reason Federal Departments will NEVER prosecute one another.

Of course...

...You might correctly note that this also means the Federal Government is structurally unable to police itself, or to be policed externally short of dissolution and replacement.

Gunston_Nutbush_Hall 14 minutes ago (Edited)

There will be no investigation.

There will be no prosecution, trial, or conviction.

It won't matter what he has done, or who knows about it.

Correct.

This is no rule of as founders constituted law National Government at war with the People.

gcjohns1971 11 minutes ago

It was fatally unwise to "delegate" legislative functions outside the Congress, because doing so creates Tyrants that the formal branches of government (Legislative, Executive, Judicial) cannot control or hold accountable.

Dick Stephens 17 minutes ago

Darn it. The little weasel finally showed his true colors. So, the "oh shacks, I am just a scientist not a politician" phony act has been exposed. Kudos to Sen. Paul for exposing Fauci for the nasty little scheming prick that he is. Rip the mask off his weaselly face (pun intended).

Pritchards Ghost 13 minutes ago

When a question is asked, the answer usually addresses the question.

Lying, hyperbole, obfuscation, diversion, emotional hysterics, changing the subject -- usually show the subject of the question is not being honestly responsive.

Sometimes, it is the fault of the person posing the question; i.e., an invalid question -- (When did you stop kicking your dog?).

If you cut thru all the smoke during their exchange, Rand basically read him his miranda rights, and asked the question, "Do you want to change your statement?

The underlying basis for the thunderstorm response was -- this paper you're referring to was judged by qualified staff up and down the chain as not being gain of function."

Qualified staff. ..who are they? What are their names and qualifications? Are they interns or personnel paid to obtain results specifically desired in a research lab, and what is the nature and funding of the lab association.

The chain ...what is that? What specific expertise, hierarchy, and order of precedence does the chain represent that can demonstrably be shown to always be accurate?

Paul asked a very specific and carefully composed legal question. Fauch may have expertise in many fields, but he's not a lawyer.

Ted Baker 35 minutes ago

...More than $120M of funding from many institutions in the US including intelligence agencies.

[Jul 21, 2021] From June 2014 to May 2019 Dr. Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance had a grant from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, to do gain-of-function research with coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Jul 21, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Captive 26 minutes ago remove link

From June 2014 to May 2019 Dr. Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance had a grant from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, to do gain-of-function research with coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

The responsibility of the NIAID and NIH is even more acute because for the first three years of the grant to EcoHealth Alliance there was a moratorium on funding gain-of-function research.

The moratorium, referred to officially as a "pause," specifically barred funding any gain-of-function research that increased the pathogenicity of the flu, MERS or SARS viruses. It defined gain-of-function very simply and broadly as "research that improves the ability of a pathogen to cause disease."

"An exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security."

"Unfortunately, the NIAID Director and the NIH Director exploited this loophole to issue exemptions to projects subject to the Pause...

Dr. Fauci told a Senate hearing on May 11 that "the NIH and NIAID categorically has not funded gain-of-function research to be conducted in the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

This was a surprising statement in view of all the evidence about Dr. Shi's experiments with enhancing coronaviruses and the language of the moratorium statute defining gain-of-function as "any research that improves the ability of a pathogen to cause disease."

The explanation may be one of definition. Dr. Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance, for one, believes that the term gain-of-function applies only to enhancements of viruses that infect humans , not to animal viruses. "So gain-of-function research refers specifically to the manipulation of human viruses so as to be either more easily transmissible or to cause worse infection or be easier to spread," an Alliance official told The Dispatch Fact Check.

If the NIH shares the EcoHealth Alliance view that the term gain of function applies only to human viruses, that would explain why Dr. Fauci could assure the Senate it had never funded such research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. But the legal basis of such a definition is unclear, and it differs from that of the moratorium language which was presumably applicable.

Origin of Covid -- Following the Clues | by Nicholas Wade | Medium

[Jul 21, 2021] Attempt to blackmail

Jul 21, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

gary7337 23 minutes ago

You all know this site is a Russian Trojan horse, right?

https://newrepublic.com/article/156788/zero-hedge-russian-trojan-horse

And that the KGB will delete my post. Again.

Theremustbeanotherway 21 minutes ago

Yawn no its run by Js.....zzzz

carnival barker 21 minutes ago

but only this one though. everything else is free and clear of russian influence. thank goodness you were here to save the day.

The 3rd Dimentia 17 minutes ago (Edited)

(((Seth Hettena))) is the author at newrepublic. thinks he's a journalist. always the victim; untouchable

" What Zero Hedge became, in essence, was a forum for the hateful, conspiracy-driven voices of the angry white men of the alt-right. Racists, anti-Semites, extreme right-wingers, and conspiracy nuts were an underserved audience, and, as it turns out, a profitable one."

no sympathy from this quarter.

Theremustbeanotherway 16 minutes ago (Edited)

The Russians did it...... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

liberty2day 1 hour ago (Edited)

out of control, unaccountable bureaucracy of unknown size, with anti American sentiments, and potentially treasonous alliances, conducting secret projects not even your so called reps, who themselves openly mouth anti American propaganda, pretend to know about.

what could possibly go wrong?

Spontaneous Combustion 1 hour ago remove link

Thats why he lied. Fauci knows he can get away with it. Clapper, HRC, all got away with it. Why don't these fckin worthless representatives in government shut the bullsh!t theater down and do something?

George Bayou 27 minutes ago

"The emergence of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS)-CoV underscores the threat of cross-species transmission events leading to outbreaks in humans. Here we examine the disease potential of a SARS-like virus, SHC014-CoV, which is currently circulating in Chinese horseshoe bat populations 1 . Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system 2 , we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV."

This is weaponizing viruses, and was paid for by the NIH.

realitybiter 44 minutes ago

His blatant denial, utilizing deflection, akin to "I did not have sex with that woman", wreaks of doth protest too much.

I sincerely hope that the sudden uptick in VAERS vaccine deaths, from 6000 a week ago, to 12,000 now is not a trend. You have to pull your head out folks. Why on earth would these LIARS insist on vaxing young people with this sketchy data? Unless they are interested in death.

Captive 26 minutes ago remove link

From June 2014 to May 2019 Dr. Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance had a grant from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, to do gain-of-function research with coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

The responsibility of the NIAID and NIH is even more acute because for the first three years of the grant to EcoHealth Alliance there was a moratorium on funding gain-of-function research.

The moratorium, referred to officially as a "pause," specifically barred funding any gain-of-function research that increased the pathogenicity of the flu, MERS or SARS viruses. It defined gain-of-function very simply and broadly as "research that improves the ability of a pathogen to cause disease."

"An exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security."

"Unfortunately, the NIAID Director and the NIH Director exploited this loophole to issue exemptions to projects subject to the Pause...

Dr. Fauci told a Senate hearing on May 11 that "the NIH and NIAID categorically has not funded gain-of-function research to be conducted in the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

This was a surprising statement in view of all the evidence about Dr. Shi's experiments with enhancing coronaviruses and the language of the moratorium statute defining gain-of-function as "any research that improves the ability of a pathogen to cause disease."

The explanation may be one of definition. Dr. Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance, for one, believes that the term gain-of-function applies only to enhancements of viruses that infect humans , not to animal viruses. "So gain-of-function research refers specifically to the manipulation of human viruses so as to be either more easily transmissible or to cause worse infection or be easier to spread," an Alliance official told The Dispatch Fact Check.

If the NIH shares the EcoHealth Alliance view that the term gain of function applies only to human viruses, that would explain why Dr. Fauci could assure the Senate it had never funded such research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. But the legal basis of such a definition is unclear, and it differs from that of the moratorium language which was presumably applicable.

Origin of Covid -- Following the Clues | by Nicholas Wade | Medium

[Jul 21, 2021] Sen. Paul accused Dr. Fauci of lying to Congress during his May testimony, during which Dr. Fauci claimed the US had never financed gain-of-function projects at the Wuhan Institute of Virology

Jul 20, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Clashes between Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci have become a routine feature of the latter's testimony before the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, which Dr. Fauci is required to provide in accordance with the COVID stimulus legislation.

And on Tuesday, they clashed again after Sen. Paul accused Dr. Fauci of lying to Congress during his May testimony, during which Dr. Fauci claimed the US had never financed gain-of-function projects at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. For those who aren't familiar with the term, 'gain-of-function' research involves making viruses more contagious or deadly in a laboratory.

Sen. Paul started by asking Dr. Fauci if he would like to revise some of his statements about the NIH's research, reminding him that it's a crime to lie to Congress. Here's what was said during the rest of the brief back-and-forth.

"Do you with to retract your statement from May 11 where you claimed that the NIH never funded gain of function research in Wuhan?"

"Senator Paul, I have never lied before the Congress, and I do not retract that statement ...this paper you're referring to was judged by qualified staff up and down the chain as not being gain of function."

"You take an animal virus and you increase it's transmissibility to humans, you're saying that's not gain of function?"

"That's correct... and Sen. Paul, I want to say you do not know what you are talking about," Dr. Fauci replied. "I just want to say that officially."

Paul said that during his May 11 testimony, Fauci "stated that the NIH has never and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And yet, gain-of-function research was done entirely in the Wuhan institute by Doctor Shi [Zhengli] and was funded by the NIH."

Readers can watch the clip below:

When Sen. Paul tried to press the issue, he was chastened by the (Democratic) committee chair, who said she would allow witnesses to come before the committee to respond at a later date.

Without offering any examples to support his claim, Dr. Fauci got the last word by saying "you are implying that what we did was responsible for the deaths of individuals, and I totally resent that...if anybody is lying here it is you."

Dr. Fauci then claimed that the viruses from the paper Paul had cited were "molecularly impossible to result in SARS-CoV-2".

While Dr. Fauci's denial might have sounded convincing on the surface, we of course already know what he said to be false.

As we have previously reported , the Dr. Fauci-led NIH effectively helped finance much of the 'gain of function' research involving bat coronaviruses going on at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Not only has Dr. Fauci argued that 'gain of function' research is 'worth the risk' that a powerful hyper infectious virus might escape and cause an international pandemic. Why not perform this research in the US? Well, because 'gain-of-function' research has been illegal in the US for years

We first noted back in March , the NIH - headed by Fauci - had funded a number of projects that involved WIV scientists, including much of the Wuhan lab's work with bat coronaviruses.

Even the Washington Post has confirmed that the WIV "had openly participated in gain-of-function research in partnership with US universities and institutions" for years under the leadership of Dr. Shi 'Batwoman' Zhengli.

Paul has repeatedly accused Dr. Fauci of using a middle-man - an organization called EcoAlliance, headed by Peter Daszak, the same scientist who led the WHO's team of scientists tasked with 'investigating' the origins of the virus. The money provided to EcoAlliance via the NIH was used mostly to finance research at the WIV conducted by "batwoman" - or Zhengli Shi.

When the US government created obstacles to this research during the Obama years, Dr. Fauci found a workaround.

Via The Australian:

Multiple Trump administration officials told The Weekend Australian Dr Fauci had not raised the issue of restarting the research funding with senior figures in the White House.

"It kind of just got rammed through," one official said.

"I think there's truth in the narrative that the (National Security Council) staff, the president, the White House chief-of-staff, those people were in the dark that he was switching back on the research."

The Weekend Australian has also confirmed that neither Mike Pompeo, the then director of the Central Intelligence Agency, nor National Security Council member Matthew Pottinger, was briefed.

The experiments are also opposed by prominent scientists, including the Cambridge Working Group of 200 researchers which issued a public warning in 2014.

"Accident risks with newly created "potential pandemic pathogens" raise grave new concerns," the group's letter read. "Laboratory creation of highly transmissible, novel strains of dangerous viruses, especially but not limited to influenza, poses substantially increased risks.

"An accidental infection in such a setting could trigger outbreaks that would be difficult or impossible to control. Historically, new strains of influenza, once they establish transmission in the human population, have infected a quarter or more of the world's population within two years."

And Steven Salzberg, of the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, in 2015 said the benefits of gain-of-function research were "minimal at best" and they could "far more safely be obtained through other avenues of research".

"I am very concerned that the continuing gain-of-function research on influenza viruses, and more recently on other viruses, presents extremely serious risks to the public health," he wrote.

Looking back, was it worth the risk?


Lt. Frank Drebin 45 minutes ago remove link

Well, if he is a liar, draw up charges and call the U.S. Marshal service.

Otherwise this is just what it has always been.

Theater.

Paul Revere2 41 minutes ago

My point exactly.

mikka 30 minutes ago remove link

Reminds me of Bill's definition of "I did not have sex with that woman".

Donnie Duvanie 11 minutes ago (Edited)

Fauci: "I did not have sex with that bat!"

keeper20 26 minutes ago (Edited)

" by qualified staff up and down the chain "


see, now there's your problem right there.
what qualifies this sort of staff is blind obedience and willingness to go along to get along.
fauci's staff's opinions are worthless because they are forced to toe fauci's line, true or not.

fauci appealing to their authority to hide behind is lamentably despicable because insincere.
he knows they wrote what he wanted. he knows the purpose of bioweapon enhancement.
he lied to the american public and to the entire world, and we see him and his fraud friends.
his wife the communist bioethicist, cultural supremacist, confucious-butt-licking sycophant of totalitarianism in the name of peace and freedom for the downtrodden people including herself wife is the person who should be taken to task in the field of morality. she is a fraud. ethics indeed. enough about those two and their pandemic murder cabal system (tedros, etc).

there are competing paradigms for social control in play; hierarchical versus peer-to-peer.

in digital terms, it is master/slave or peer-to-peer. those two paradigms are the epitome of human social construction, like the two towers, like jachim and boaz, like north and south, yin and yang. yes and no. theology and atheism. government and anarchy. truth and lie.

peer to peer versus master/slave

the holocene predicament - what to do with all these people?
consider the alternative - pantheism, respect, live and let live, kill only when necessary to live.
the world is not always going to be polarized as it is now, we will change with our environment.

rgraf 13 minutes ago remove link

The whole system was corrupt from the ratification of the conjobstitution.

Plus Size Model 25 minutes ago remove link

Eco Health is located in NY. All communications between Eco Health and Wuhan went through the NSA and are stored by the NSA for prevention of crimes like this.

There is a copious amount of information circulating in media that warrants a raid on the Eco Health offices and a Daszak indictment.

From there, a bigger case can be built up and other players will most likely be indicted. Anything else is a distraction.

Dragonlord 42 minutes ago

He is scared and afraid because Rand is telling and showing everyone the truth about him and his lies.

[Jul 20, 2021] Sen. Paul accused Dr. Fauci of lying to Congress during his May testimony, during which Dr. Fauci claimed the US had never financed gain-of-function projects at the Wuhan Institute of Virology

Jul 20, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Clashes between Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci have become a routine feature of the latter's testimony before the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, which Dr. Fauci is required to provide in accordance with the COVID stimulus legislation.

And on Tuesday, they clashed again after Sen. Paul accused Dr. Fauci of lying to Congress during his May testimony, during which Dr. Fauci claimed the US had never financed gain-of-function projects at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. For those who aren't familiar with the term, 'gain-of-function' research involves making viruses more contagious or deadly in a laboratory.

Sen. Paul started by asking Dr. Fauci if he would like to revise some of his statements about the NIH's research, reminding him that it's a crime to lie to Congress. Here's what was said during the rest of the brief back-and-forth.

"Do you with to retract your statement from May 11 where you claimed that the NIH never funded gain of function research in Wuhan?"

"Senator Paul, I have never lied before the Congress, and I do not retract that statement ...this paper you're referring to was judged by qualified staff up and down the chain as not being gain of function."

"You take an animal virus and you increase it's transmissibility to humans, you're saying that's not gain of function?"

"That's correct... and Sen. Paul, I want to say you do not know what you are talking about," Dr. Fauci replied. "I just want to say that officially."

Paul said that during his May 11 testimony, Fauci "stated that the NIH has never and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And yet, gain-of-function research was done entirely in the Wuhan institute by Doctor Shi [Zhengli] and was funded by the NIH."

Readers can watch the clip below:

When Sen. Paul tried to press the issue, he was chastened by the (Democratic) committee chair, who said she would allow witnesses to come before the committee to respond at a later date.

Without offering any examples to support his claim, Dr. Fauci got the last word by saying "you are implying that what we did was responsible for the deaths of individuals, and I totally resent that...if anybody is lying here it is you."

Dr. Fauci then claimed that the viruses from the paper Paul had cited were "molecularly impossible to result in SARS-CoV-2".

While Dr. Fauci's denial might have sounded convincing on the surface, we of course already know what he said to be false.

As we have previously reported , the Dr. Fauci-led NIH effectively helped finance much of the 'gain of function' research involving bat coronaviruses going on at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Not only has Dr. Fauci argued that 'gain of function' research is 'worth the risk' that a powerful hyper infectious virus might escape and cause an international pandemic. Why not perform this research in the US? Well, because 'gain-of-function' research has been illegal in the US for years

We first noted back in March , the NIH - headed by Fauci - had funded a number of projects that involved WIV scientists, including much of the Wuhan lab's work with bat coronaviruses.

Even the Washington Post has confirmed that the WIV "had openly participated in gain-of-function research in partnership with US universities and institutions" for years under the leadership of Dr. Shi 'Batwoman' Zhengli.

Paul has repeatedly accused Dr. Fauci of using a middle-man - an organization called EcoAlliance, headed by Peter Daszak, the same scientist who led the WHO's team of scientists tasked with 'investigating' the origins of the virus. The money provided to EcoAlliance via the NIH was used mostly to finance research at the WIV conducted by "batwoman" - or Zhengli Shi.

When the US government created obstacles to this research during the Obama years, Dr. Fauci found a workaround.

Via The Australian:

Multiple Trump administration officials told The Weekend Australian Dr Fauci had not raised the issue of restarting the research funding with senior figures in the White House.

"It kind of just got rammed through," one official said.

"I think there's truth in the narrative that the (National Security Council) staff, the president, the White House chief-of-staff, those people were in the dark that he was switching back on the research."

The Weekend Australian has also confirmed that neither Mike Pompeo, the then director of the Central Intelligence Agency, nor National Security Council member Matthew Pottinger, was briefed.

The experiments are also opposed by prominent scientists, including the Cambridge Working Group of 200 researchers which issued a public warning in 2014.

"Accident risks with newly created "potential pandemic pathogens" raise grave new concerns," the group's letter read. "Laboratory creation of highly transmissible, novel strains of dangerous viruses, especially but not limited to influenza, poses substantially increased risks.

"An accidental infection in such a setting could trigger outbreaks that would be difficult or impossible to control. Historically, new strains of influenza, once they establish transmission in the human population, have infected a quarter or more of the world's population within two years."

And Steven Salzberg, of the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, in 2015 said the benefits of gain-of-function research were "minimal at best" and they could "far more safely be obtained through other avenues of research".

"I am very concerned that the continuing gain-of-function research on influenza viruses, and more recently on other viruses, presents extremely serious risks to the public health," he wrote.

Looking back, was it worth the risk?


Lt. Frank Drebin 45 minutes ago remove link

Well, if he is a liar, draw up charges and call the U.S. Marshal service.

Otherwise this is just what it has always been.

Theater.

Paul Revere2 41 minutes ago

My point exactly.

mikka 30 minutes ago remove link

Reminds me of Bill's definition of "I did not have sex with that woman".

Donnie Duvanie 11 minutes ago (Edited)

Fauci: "I did not have sex with that bat!"

keeper20 26 minutes ago (Edited)

" by qualified staff up and down the chain "


see, now there's your problem right there.
what qualifies this sort of staff is blind obedience and willingness to go along to get along.
fauci's staff's opinions are worthless because they are forced to toe fauci's line, true or not.

fauci appealing to their authority to hide behind is lamentably despicable because insincere.
he knows they wrote what he wanted. he knows the purpose of bioweapon enhancement.
he lied to the american public and to the entire world, and we see him and his fraud friends.
his wife the communist bioethicist, cultural supremacist, confucious-butt-licking sycophant of totalitarianism in the name of peace and freedom for the downtrodden people including herself wife is the person who should be taken to task in the field of morality. she is a fraud. ethics indeed. enough about those two and their pandemic murder cabal system (tedros, etc).

there are competing paradigms for social control in play; hierarchical versus peer-to-peer.

in digital terms, it is master/slave or peer-to-peer. those two paradigms are the epitome of human social construction, like the two towers, like jachim and boaz, like north and south, yin and yang. yes and no. theology and atheism. government and anarchy. truth and lie.

peer to peer versus master/slave

the holocene predicament - what to do with all these people?
consider the alternative - pantheism, respect, live and let live, kill only when necessary to live.
the world is not always going to be polarized as it is now, we will change with our environment.

rgraf 13 minutes ago remove link

The whole system was corrupt from the ratification of the conjobstitution.

Plus Size Model 25 minutes ago remove link

Eco Health is located in NY. All communications between Eco Health and Wuhan went through the NSA and are stored by the NSA for prevention of crimes like this.

There is a copious amount of information circulating in media that warrants a raid on the Eco Health offices and a Daszak indictment.

From there, a bigger case can be built up and other players will most likely be indicted. Anything else is a distraction.

Dragonlord 42 minutes ago

He is scared and afraid because Rand is telling and showing everyone the truth about him and his lies.

[Jul 15, 2021] No Victory Lap For Governors Who Locked Down America - ZeroHedge

Jul 15, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

No Victory Lap For Governors Who Locked Down America BY TYLER DURDEN WEDNESDAY, JUL 14, 2021 - 09:00 PM

Authored by James Bovard,

There are no fact-checkers for victory laps. Last week, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo summarized his experience with the Covid-19 crisis: "Speaking for myself, it was a tremendous personal benefit ."

Cuomo made that declaration in a speech concluding his one-year chairmanship of the National Governors Association.

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Because Cuomo's spiel sought to rewrite history to exonerate politicians who ravaged Americans' rights and liberties , it requires a rebuttal.

Cuomo declared that "we maximized the moment as governors. Governors have a new credibility. Governors have a new status." Cuomo epitomized the rush to "absolute power " that occurred in governor's mansions across the nation. After he fueled pandemic fears, the New York Times proclaimed, "Andrew Cuomo Is the Control Freak We Need Right Now." A New Yorker profile , titled "Andrew Cuomo, King of New York," explained that Cuomo and his aides saw the battle over Covid policy as "between people who believe government can be a force for good and those who think otherwise." Cuomo denounced anyone who disobeyed his edicts, including condemning sheriffs as "dictators" for refusing to enforce his mask mandate inside people's homes.

Cuomo justified placing almost 20 million people under house arrest: " If everything we do saves just one life, I'll be happy ." Though his repressive policies failed to prevent New York from having among the nation's highest Covid death rates, he became a superhero thanks largely to media scoring that ignored almost all of the harms he inflicted. Cuomo won an Emmy Award for his "masterful use of television " during the pandemic. Media valorization helped make Cuomo's self-tribute book, American Crisis: Leadership Lessons from the COVID-19 Pandemic , a bestseller.

Cuomo had plenty of power-mad accomplices in the governors' association.

The CDC eventually admitted that there was almost no risk of Covid contagion from outdoors activity not amidst a throng of people.

But that did not stop politicians from claiming that "science and data" justified locking people in their homes.

Some governors have acted as if their shutdown orders gave them unlimited sway to decree when normal life could resume.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom decreed that Covid restrictions would be perpetuated in California counties based on voter turnout, alcohol availability, and other non-health factors.

California assemblyman Kevin Kiley groused,

"An entire county can be kept shut down because certain areas are judged to be lacking in "˜equity ,' even if the whole county has relatively few cases of Covid."

The end of Covid restrictions turned into hostage release negotiations with domineering rulers clinging to all their new prerogatives.

Cuomo was proud that, when he visits a school, he is no longer asked ""˜What does a governor do?" because "people know what governors do and how important governors are." Governors can wreck kids' futures by shutting down schools and placing children under indefinite home detention, costing millions of children almost an entire year of learning. In some areas, private schools remained open and took precautions that kept children safe in the classroom. As Washington Examiner editor Tim Carney noted, students in Catholic schools in Montgomery County, Maryland continued attending school and were kept safer than public school students: "Kids learning remotely got Covid at 3 times the rate as kids learning in person." Unreliable "distance learning" produced a more than 500 percent increase in the number of black and Hispanic students failing classes in Montgomery County government schools.

A Journal of the American Medical Association analysis concluded that shutting down the schools would reduce the current crop of students' collective years of life by more than five million, based on "lower income, reduced educational attainment, and worse health outcomes." School shutdowns blighted the lives of millions of children in part because the Centers for Disease Control proclaimed that six feet of "social distancing" was necessary to avoid contagion "" an arbitrary standard pulled out of thin air that was denounced by former Food and Drug Administration commissioner Scott Gottlieb .

The lockdowns that governors imposed also pointlessly ravaged many Americans' mental health. T he Centers for Disease Control last month reported a 51% increase in emergency room visits for suspected suicide attempts by teenage girls in early 2021. A Kaiser Family Foundation survey found a 300% increase in the percentage of adults reporting symptoms of anxiety disorder and/or depressive disorder (41% of adults in January 2021). The CDC also reported a record number of drug overdose deaths last year, due in part to the lockdowns and other government-imposed disruptions.

Cuomo boasted that the Covid-19 responses "were probably the most consequential decisions that governors had made in generations. They were literally about life and death. You make the wrong decision, people could die." Thousands of New Yorkers died because of Cuomo's mistakes and cover-ups. New York state initially reported barely half of the total of more than 12,000 New York nursing home patients who died of Covid "" one out of eight nursing home residents in the state that occurred after Cuomo ordered nursing homes to admit Covid patients. Early in the pandemic, Cuomo pushed to include a legislative provision written by the Greater New York Hospital Association to give a waiver of liability to nursing homes and hospitals whose patients died of Covid. A report earlier this year by the New York Attorney General warned, "The immunity laws could be wrongly used to protect any individual or entity from liability, even if those decisions were not made in good faith or motivated by financial incentives." As the Guardian noted , "Cuomo's political machine received more than $2 million from the Greater New York Hospital Association, its executives and its lobbying firms."

Any politician who recited the magic words "science and data" became entitled to outlaw any activity he chose. Cuomo and other governors acted as if they had discovered a "good intentions" exemption to all limits on their power. Federal judge William Stickman IV condemned Pennsylvania's Covid restrictions: "Broad population-wide lockdowns are such a dramatic inversion of the concept of liberty in a free society as to be nearly presumptively unconstitutional ." But Cuomo and other governors presumed that proclaiming emergencies nullified the constitutional rights of any citizen under their sway. The U.S. Supreme Court struck down Cuomo's restrictions on limited religious gatherings because they were " far more restrictive than any Covid-related regulations that have previously come before the Court"¦ and far more severe than has been shown to be required to prevent the spread of the virus."

Cuomo's spiel to the governors included Washington's most revered banality: "We spoke truth to power." But Cuomo's own appointees suppressed the data on nursing home deaths while he was negotiating a $5 million advance for his book on pandemic leadership lessons. Last August, the Justice Department announced an investigation into state nursing home policies that boosted Covid death tolls in New York, New Jersey, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Cuomo is probably confident that Biden's Justice Department will throttle any such investigation that could tarnish Democratic governors. But will other investigations or Freedom of Information Act disclosures eventually obliterate the bragging rights of the Covid lockdowners?

Governors' response to Covid was supposedly a glorious triumph because not every nursing home patient died, not every small business was bankrupted, and not every teenager attempted suicide from isolation and despair. Despite the severe repression of everyday life, more than 620,000 Americans reportedly died of Covid and more than 114 million were infected. According to the CDC more than ten million jobs were lost thanks to lockdowns, a major reason why life expectancy in the United States last year had its sharpest plunge since World War Two. CNN reported last month that " New York's economy is America's worst ," with economic activity at only 83% of pre-pandemic levels.

In reality, Cuomo's speech relied on what Hegel called " the truth which lies in power ." As long as politicians are exalted, the actual details of their decrees are irrelevant: they have been coronated as saviors . Cuomo assured his fellow Covid-profiteering governors that "this will happen again." This is why Americans must recognize the catastrophic failure of political iron fists during the Covid-19 pandemic.

[Jul 12, 2021] Another fiasco: Fauci (and some other high level medical bureaucrats) fake dream of herd immunity was crushed by Delta variant

Jul 12, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

"Certainly, immunity decreases over time...the question is how much time," one doctor told CNBC during an interview Monday morning.

Before Delta arrived in Israel, some believed the country had reached "herd immunity". But as Dr. Scott Gottlieb and others have pointed out, COVID is now endemic in the human population, and reaching "COVID zero", a standard that Israel is aiming at, simply might not be possible . Israeli officials have already acknowledged that with the large percentage of Israeli's vaccinated, deaths and hospitalizations associated with COVID will likely continue to decline, even if the number of new cases does rise.

[Jul 05, 2021] Before the pandemic was a pandemic, already 4.75 million Americans had been exposed to the novel coronavirus

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Jul 05, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Lurk , Jul 4 2021 14:52 utc | 3

Before the pandemic was a pandemic, already 4.75 million Americans had been exposed to the novel coronavirus

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/72/12/e1004/6012472

Serologic Testing of US Blood Donations to Identify Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)–Reactive Antibodies: December 2019–January 2020

Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 72, Issue 12, 15 June 2021, Pages e1004–e1009,
https://doi.org/10.1093/cid/ciaa1785
Published: 30 November 2020

Abstract
Background

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), was first identified in Wuhan, China, in December 2019, with subsequent worldwide spread. The first US cases were identified in January 2020.
Methods

To determine if SARS-CoV-2–reactive antibodies were present in sera prior to the first identified case in the United States on 19 January 2020, residual archived samples from 7389 routine blood donations collected by the American Red Cross from 13 December 2019 to 17 January 2020 from donors resident in 9 states (California, Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, Michigan, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington, and Wisconsin) were tested at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for anti–SARS-CoV-2 antibodies. Specimens reactive by pan-immunoglobulin (pan-Ig) enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) against the full spike protein were tested by IgG and IgM ELISAs, microneutralization test, Ortho total Ig S1 ELISA, and receptor-binding domain/ACE2 blocking activity assay.
Results

Of the 7389 samples, 106 were reactive by pan-Ig. Of these 106 specimens, 90 were available for further testing. Eighty-four of 90 had neutralizing activity, 1 had S1 binding activity, and 1 had receptor-binding domain/ACE2 blocking activity >50%, suggesting the presence of anti–SARS-CoV-2–reactive antibodies. Donations with reactivity occurred in all 9 states.
Conclusions

These findings suggest that SARS-CoV-2 may have been introduced into the United States prior to 19 January 2020.

My calculation is based on the statistical extrapolation of 106 out of 7389 samples over 331 million people in the USA. That gives 4.75 million cases of sars-cov-2 infection having gone "silent" in the USA prior to the report of the outbreak in China.

The unwillingness and secrecy of the USA government in the initial phase of the official arrival of corona in the USA, the strange and unexplained outbreak of the still mysterious EVALI disease in the summer of 2019 (that in hindsight shared oddly many symptoms with COVID), the bad flu season that suddenly disappeared when corona appeared in the USA: it all points to Fort Detrick.


Jörgen Hassler , Jul 4 2021 19:11 utc | 23

Lurk @3:

"My calculation is based on the statistical extrapolation of 106 out of 7389 samples over 331 million people in the USA."

You can't make that extrapolation, the sample size is too small, and the total population too heterogenic. The cases might reflect an out break in just one state, or even one area. And we don't know the characteristics of the virus strain found – for all we know what happened in Wuhan could very well be that the virus mutated in a way that made it more contagious. Among other things; after all it's just a hundred positives.

But the article clearly shows that there are still questions to be answered about where the virus came from – if I'm not mistaken there has been pre jan 2020 cases found in Italy as well.

Lurk , Jul 4 2021 20:20 utc | 32

@Jörgen Hassler | Jul 4 2021 19:11 utc | 23

You can't make that extrapolation,

Well yes I can and I did. I was completely open about it being a statistical extrapolation. It is IMHO a relevant estimate, because even if the extrapolation is off by an order of magnitude, it would still imply almost half a million cases - or almost 50 million , if the error was to the other side.

In both cases, it paints the origins of the pandemic in a dramatically different light.

Hell, even if my estimate was off by two orders of magnitude - 50,000 cases - that would still be a huge number of cases and make an entirely new investigation of the WHO on USA territory an evident priority - if these organiztions were independent, objective and free from political pressure.

the sample size is too small, and the total population too heterogenic. The cases might reflect an out break in just one state, or even one area.

While 7389 samples is not a huge sample size, it is not ridiculously small either. The samples were from 9 states, clearly not from a single cluster. Read the article, mkay? If the statistical foundations were really that bad, it would not have been published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.
And we don't know the characteristics of the virus strain found – for all we know what happened in Wuhan could very well be that the virus mutated in a way that made it more contagious.

Oh come on, you're really pushing things here. None of the strains identified thus far differ by an order of magnitude in infectiousness or transmissibility. The assumptions that you are trying to introduce are far more shaky than any of my statistical broadstrokes.
Peter AU1 , Jul 4 2021 20:35 utc | 35

This piece from Lurk's link

" Of these 106 specimens, 90 were available for further testing. Eighty-four of 90 had neutralizing activity, 1 had S1 binding activity, and 1 had receptor-binding domain/ACE2 blocking activity >50%, suggesting the presence of anti–SARS-CoV-2–reactive antibodies."

As with all diseases, some people will have a natural immunity to SARA-Cov_2 virus. How can natural or innate immunity be differentiated from acquired immunity?

Lurk , Jul 4 2021 20:40 utc | 37

@Jörgen Hassler | Jul 4 2021 19:11 utc | 23

And then there are other interesting factiods, apart from the mysterious EVALI that I have already mentioned before.

What about the biggest German corona cluster in the town of Gangelt ? Look it up on the map, it is right next to NATO Air Base Geilenkirchen , the major European AWACS base and Allied Joint Force Command Brunssum , a huge underground NATO command and control base.

In the Netherlands, the big early cluster was in an otherwise agricultural backwater area that just happens to be the location of Volkel Air Base , the Dutch site where the USA stores nuclear weapons (in the latter half of 2019, they had been very busy modernizing said nukes, causing a lot of extra traffic to and from the USA).

Contributors to this site from Spain and possibly Italy (from memory - reports were made early 2020) made similar observations about the geographical peculiarities of early corona clusters in their localities.

What about the 2019 Wuhan Military World Games and the noteworthy competitive results (or should I say absense thereof) of the USA athletes, who were too sick to perform and were medevac'ed back to the USA? The Wuhan International Hotel that the USA team stayed in was closer to the infamous wet market than any Biolabs. The Chinese authorities were quick to point out the hotel as a much more prominent source of infections than the market, but western media never picked up on those pesky details.

Peter AU1 , Jul 4 2021 22:09 utc | 49

This article is a US hit piece on China but it also shows the military games may have been the world superspreader event.
At the outbreak of covid, US military refused to have their athletes tested, but the article looks at many other teams that become ill around the time they were returning from the games. Absolutely nothing on the US team other than they only came in 35th place, deligation included seven "senior leaders" and two dept of state people
https://prospect.org/coronavirus/did-the-military-world-games-spread-covid-19/

Lurk, quite interesting post @45 On the allergies, symptoms range from mild to severe. Hives are mild, choking to death severe.
anaphylaxis I refers to those that are severe as in face or throat swelling resulting in death.
Long covid, and other virus that can take a long tome to recover from I believe trigger inflammation of the myelin sheath that insulates the nerves.

[Jul 04, 2021] Fauci flip flops again and says fully vaxxed people should still 'go the extra mile' and wear face masks in low vaccination areas

Jul 04, 2021 | www.msn.com

[Jul 03, 2021] Breakthrough infections, which occur when fully vaccinated people are infected by the pathogen that their shots were designed to protect against

So Fauci push toward "herd immunity" was meaningless from the very beginning. In Israel 50% (which has 85% of adults fully vaccinated with Phizer vaccine) of infected with Delta were vaccinated.
Both South African variant and the Delta variant (also known as B.1.617.2) changed the picture of "herd immunity". Official figure is that Two doses of Pfizer's vaccine are still 88 percent effective at preventing symptomatic Delta infections. You can probably cut this figure by half to get more realistic estimate based on Israel experience with Pfizer vaccine. Israel has fully vaccinated about 85 percent of adults
Worryingly, a recent study documented several cases during India's spring surge in which health-care workers who were fully vaccinated with AstraZeneca's vaccine were infected by Delta and passed it on.
Now there is talk about that vaccinated people might need booster shots . Which essentally mean re-vaccination with the newer version of vaccine.
Jul 03, 2021 | www.theatlantic.com

When breakthrough cases do arise, it's not always clear why. The trio of vaccines now circulating in the United States were all designed around the original coronavirus variant, and seem to be a bit less effective against some newer versions of the virus. These troublesome variants have yet to render any of our current vaccines obsolete. But "the more variants there are, the more concern you have for breakthrough cases," Saad Omer, a vaccine expert at Yale, told me. The circumstances of exposure to any version of the coronavirus will also make a difference. If vaccinated people are spending time with groups of unvaccinated people in places where the virus is running rampant, that still raises their chance of getting sick. Large doses of the virus can overwhelm the sturdiest of immune defenses, if given the chance.

The human side of the equation matters, too. Immunity is not a monolith, and the degree of defense roused by an infection or a vaccine will differ from person to person, even between identical twins . Some people might have underlying conditions that hamstring their immune system's response to vaccination; others might simply, by chance, churn out fewer or less potent antibodies and T cells that can nip a coronavirus infection in the bud.

Read: You're not fully vaccinated on the day of your last dose

The effects of vaccination are best considered along a spectrum, says Ali Ellebedy, an immunologist at Washington University in St. Louis. An ideal response to vaccination might create an arsenal of immune molecules and cells that can instantaneously squelch the virus, leaving no time for symptoms to appear. But sometimes that front line of fighters is relatively sparse. Should the virus make it through, "it becomes a race [against] time," Ellebedy told me. The pathogen rushes to copy itself, and the immune system recruits more defenders. The longer the tussle drags on, the more likely the disease is to manifest.The range of vaccine responses "isn't a variation of two- to threefold; it's thousands," Ellebedy told me. "Being vaccinated doesn't mean you are immune. It means you have a better chance of protection."

For these reasons and more, Viviana Simon, a virologist at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, in New York, dislikes the term breakthrough case , which evokes a barrier walling humans off from disease. "It's very misleading," she told me. "It's like the virus 'punches' through our defenses."

Vaccination is actually more like a single variable in a dynamic playing field -- a layer of protection, like an umbrella, that might guard better in some situations than others. It could keep a lucky traveler relatively dry in a light drizzle, but in a windy maelstrom that's whipping heavy droplets every which way, another person might be overwhelmed. And under many circumstances, vaccines are still best paired with safeguards such as masks and distancing -- just as rain boots and jackets would help buffer someone in a storm.

Read: People are keeping their vaccines secret

In some ways, the shots' staggering success in trials -- where breakthrough cases were also observed, causing appropriately minimal stir -- may have papered over the inevitability of post-vaccination infections in more natural settings. "The vaccines exceeded expectations," Luciana Borio, a former acting chief scientist at the FDA, told me. Now, as we exit what Borio calls the "honeymoon phase" of our relationship with the jabs, we need to temper our enthusiasm with the right amount of realism, especially as more data on the shots' strength and longevity accumulate. Even excellent vaccines aren't foolproof, and they shouldn't be criticized when they're not. "We can't expect it's going to be perfect, on day one, always," Borio said.

A team at the CDC is tracking breakthroughs and will soon start reporting case counts, as well as any patterns related to where, or in whom, these infections are occurring, Martha Sharan, a CDC spokesperson, told me. Details like those matter. They can help experts figure out why post-vaccination infections happen, and how they might be stopped. "The reassuring part is, these cases will not go unnoticed," Omer told me.

Most of the time, vaccines are far more likely to offer some help than none. Serious disease, hospitalization, and even death will still occur , as will less well-studied outcomes, such as the long-term symptoms that often arise from less severe disease. But should post-vaccination infections climb to unexpectedly high rates, backup plans will quickly kick into gear. Some shot recipients might get second or third shots to bolster their immune response; others might be administered a tweaked vaccine recipe to account for a new viral variant.

There's something a touch counterintuitive about breakthrough cases: The more people we vaccinate, the more such cases there will be, in absolute numbers. But the rate at which they appear will also decline, as rising levels of population immunity cut the conduits that the virus needs to travel. People with lackluster responses to vaccines -- as well as those who can't get their jabs -- will receive protection from the many millions in whom the shots did work. In a crowd of people holding umbrellas, even those who are empty-handed will stay more dry.

Katherine J. Wu is a staff writer at The Atlantic, where she covers science.

[Jul 02, 2021] Mom details 12-year-old daughter's extreme reactions to COVID vaccine, says she's now in wheelchair

Notable quotes:
"... De Garay explained that after receiving the second coronavirus vaccine dose, her daughter started developing severe abdominal and chest pains. Maddie described the severity of the pain to her mother as "it feels like my heart is being ripped out through my neck." ..."
"... The Ohio mother added her daughter experienced additional symptoms that included gastroparesis, nausea, vomiting, erratic blood pressure, heart rate, and memory loss. "She still cannot digest food. She has a tube to get her nutrition," De Garay said to Carlson. "She also couldn't walk at one point, then she could I don't understand why and [physicians] are not looking into why...now she's back in a wheelchair and she can't hold her neck up. Her neck pulls back." ..."
"... De Garay said she had joined a Facebook support group to help people cope with the unexpected events happening from the coronavirus vaccine trial, and she said it was shut down. "It's just not right," she said. ..."
"... Sen. Ron Johnson , R-Wis., has sent letters to the CEOs of Pfizer and Moderna seeking answers about adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine following a June 28 press conference with affected individuals. The conference in Milwaukee included stories from five people, including De Garay ..."
"... The Wisconsin senator noted that some adverse reactions were detailed in Pfizer's and Moderna's Food and Drug Administration (FDA) emergency use authorization (EUA) memorandums following early clinical trials ..."
"... Those reactions included nervous system disorders and musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders for the Pfizer EUA memo. The Moderna EUA memo included reactions such as nervous system disorders, vascular disorders and musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders, according to Johnson's letter. ..."
"... You missed the whole point! The issue is that the government is not acknowledging and and not reporting these side effects of the vaccine. Instead they are lying about the safety. If you are young, you are much more likely to get sick and injured by the vaccine than COVID. ..."
"... anyone under 25 should not get the vaccine because the percentages are about the same or worse having a negative impact from the vaccine versus the actual virus. ..."
"... With the Covid19 mortality rate among the children why even vaccinate? As a Chemist / Biochemist I learned that there is always unintended consequences. ..."
"... Vaccines may have long term effects that are not known today. ..."
"... The CDC's generic guidelines for getting a vaccine for any reason are very restrictive, first being, the disease you're getting vaccinated against has to pose a real, immediate danger. CV-19 poses virtually no danger whatsoever to kids under 14. Of all the deaths of children 14 and under in the last 18 months only .8% of them had a case of CV-19. That's 367 deaths out of over 46,000. (Data from CDC website) Forcing them to take an experimental vaccine that they absolutely don't need is criminal. As a parent, allowing your child to take the vaccine without spending a few hours doing some research is criminally negligent. This is like some terribly warped Kafka novel but it's real. ..."
Jul 02, 2021 | www.foxnews.com

Mom details 12-year-old daughter's extreme reactions to COVID vaccine, says she's now in wheelchair Stephanie De Garay shares story with Tucker Carlson By Stephanie Giang-Paunon | Fox News Facebook Twitter Flipboard Comments Print Email

https://static.foxnews.com/static/orion/html/video/iframe/vod.html?v=20210701170943#uid=fnc-embed-1 Mom describes daughter's bad COVID vaccine reaction, says she's now in wheelchair

Mother Stephanie De Garay joins 'Tucker Carlson Tonight' to discuss how her 12-year-old daughter volunteered for the Pfizer vaccine trial and is now in a wheelchair.

An Ohio mother is speaking out about her 12-year-old daughter suffering extreme reactions and nearly dying after volunteering for the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine trial.

Stephanie De Garay told "Tucker Carlson Tonight" Thursday that after reaching out to multiple physicians they claimed her daughter, Maddie De Garay, couldn't have become gravely ill from the vaccine.

"The only diagnosis we've gotten for her is that it's conversion disorder or functional neurologic symptom disorder, and they are blaming it on anxiety," De Garay told Tucker Carlson. "Ironically, she did not have anxiety before the vaccine."

De Garay explained that after receiving the second coronavirus vaccine dose, her daughter started developing severe abdominal and chest pains. Maddie described the severity of the pain to her mother as "it feels like my heart is being ripped out through my neck."

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The Ohio mother added her daughter experienced additional symptoms that included gastroparesis, nausea, vomiting, erratic blood pressure, heart rate, and memory loss. "She still cannot digest food. She has a tube to get her nutrition," De Garay said to Carlson. "She also couldn't walk at one point, then she could I don't understand why and [physicians] are not looking into why...now she's back in a wheelchair and she can't hold her neck up. Her neck pulls back."

Carlson asked whether any officials from the Biden administration or representatives from Pfizer company have reached out to the family. "No, they have not," she answered.

"The response with the person that's leading the vaccine trial has been atrocious," she said. "We wanted to know what symptoms were reported and we couldn't even get an answer on that. It was just that 'we report to Pfizer and they report to the FDA.' That's all we got."

After her heartbreaking experience, the Ohio mother said she's still "pro-vaccine, but also pro-informed consent." De Garay mentioned she's speaking out because she feels like everyone should be fully aware of this tragic incident and added the situation is being "pushed down and hidden."

De Garay said she had joined a Facebook support group to help people cope with the unexpected events happening from the coronavirus vaccine trial, and she said it was shut down. "It's just not right," she said.

"They need to do research and figure out why this happened, especially to people in the trial. I thought that was the point of it," De Garay concluded. "They need to come up with something that's going to treat these people early because all they're going to do is keep getting worse."

Sen. Ron Johnson , R-Wis., has sent letters to the CEOs of Pfizer and Moderna seeking answers about adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine following a June 28 press conference with affected individuals. The conference in Milwaukee included stories from five people, including De Garay.

The Wisconsin senator noted that some adverse reactions were detailed in Pfizer's and Moderna's Food and Drug Administration (FDA) emergency use authorization (EUA) memorandums following early clinical trials.

Those reactions included nervous system disorders and musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders for the Pfizer EUA memo. The Moderna EUA memo included reactions such as nervous system disorders, vascular disorders and musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders, according to Johnson's letter.

Pfizer and Moderna did not immediately respond to inquiries from Fox News about Johnson's letters.

J jeff5150357 6 hours ago

My daughter had the same thing happen to her after getting a flu vaccine 9 years ago. Within days of getting it, she went from being as healthy as an ox to years of awful, unexplained illness. The short version is they concluded that she had a severe adverse reaction to the vaccine, but from the delivery chemicals, not the flu content itself. Formaldehyde was the likely major cause. Now she is getting ready to begin college and is being required to get the Covid vaccine by her university and the NCAA for athletics. It is causing her, my wife and I horrible anxiety and we feel like we are being railroaded into something that could be very dangerous for her. Any discussion or concern expressed on social media is immediately blocked. I know from years of working in the research grants office at Yale University that the big pharma industry is powerful and will go to great lengths to control the narrative. What I don't understand is why mainstream media and social media are so willing to help them these days!

jeff5150357 4 hours ago

While the college experience is great for a young adult. I would look at getting a degree online. Her future earnings will be based on her merit, not where she went to school. If someone was telling me what to do with my personal health, and I was uncomfortable with their prescription, I would follow my instincts.

LoraJane92649 jeff5150357 5 hours ago

If her flu vax is well documented she should be able to get a waiver. Hopefully you have an able bodied family physician or medical team to advocate on your behalf.

G gunvald 7 hours ago

You know when you take it that there can be adverse reactions. So, in that sense, you are informed. Any one of us could be the odd person. That said, I have a problem with any child getting these vaccines, especially when most people recover from the disease. It's one thing for me as an elderly person to make the decision to take it as covid affects the elderly person more and I wanted to avoid that ventilator. Most of my life has been lived and that's how I evaluated it. This will always come down to putting it in God's hands.

TheTruthAsItIs gunvald 6 hours ago

You missed the whole point! The issue is that the government is not acknowledging and and not reporting these side effects of the vaccine. Instead they are lying about the safety. If you are young, you are much more likely to get sick and injured by the vaccine than COVID.

D DontDestoryUSA gunvald 4 hours ago

It's not being informed when you are forced to take a vaccination that they clearly had trouble with past vaccination sounds like a lawsuit for the university is on the horizon. With a big pay day

Tony5SFG 7 hours ago

"Ohio mother said she's still "pro-vaccine, but also pro-informed consent." " And as a pediatrician for over 40 yrs (retired now) and a 10 year member of my medical school's Institutional Review Board (which had to approve all human research), THAT is a problem I have been bringing up As far as requiring all young people, such as entering or in college, to get the vaccine Children are a protected class and the informed consent for research on them is much more strenuous than for adults And, requiring young people to take these new vaccines is the equivalent of doing research on them. The issue of myocarditis is quite troubling. And while it has been seen in natural infections, I have not yet seen an adequate risk - benefit evaluation regarding risking natural infection versus vaccination And people say that the myocarditis is not severe, no one can be sure of the long term effects of a young person getting it. The vaccines that we give children have been used for decades and the risks/benefits have been well established

D DallasAmEmail Tony5SFG 6 hours ago

A friends daughter who just went through internship as Physicians assistant based on the percentages in age groups believes anyone under 25 should not get the vaccine because the percentages are about the same or worse having a negative impact from the vaccine versus the actual virus. Yes, older age groups the percent having negative impact from the virus is much greater than the vaccine, so yes older age groups should get the vaccine. What really is bothersome is when Youtube removes Dr. Robert Malone video who helped create the mrna vaccine express concern that normal testing has not happened and be cautious about taking it, especially for the young.

marinesfather601 Tony5SFG 5 hours ago

With the Covid19 mortality rate among the children why even vaccinate? As a Chemist / Biochemist I learned that there is always unintended consequences.

Hilltopper9 7 hours ago

Vaccines may have long term effects that are not known today. The same could be said of all the chemicals we apply to our body daily through shampoos, hair dyes, body lotions, and suntan lotions. Life's a gamble. It's up to each individual to make the best decisions possible given the facts available.

A akbushrat Hilltopper9 6 hours ago

The CDC's generic guidelines for getting a vaccine for any reason are very restrictive, first being, the disease you're getting vaccinated against has to pose a real, immediate danger. CV-19 poses virtually no danger whatsoever to kids under 14. Of all the deaths of children 14 and under in the last 18 months only .8% of them had a case of CV-19. That's 367 deaths out of over 46,000. (Data from CDC website) Forcing them to take an experimental vaccine that they absolutely don't need is criminal. As a parent, allowing your child to take the vaccine without spending a few hours doing some research is criminally negligent. This is like some terribly warped Kafka novel but it's real.

F Fauxguy930 Hilltopper9 5 hours ago

☢️ N-butyl-N-(4-hydroxybutyl)nitrosamine is a nitrosamine that has butyl and 4-hydroxybutyl substituents. In mice, it causes high-grade, invasive cancers in the urinary bladder, but not in any other tissues. It has a role as a carcinogenic agent. Ingredient in all shots. How did a carcinogen get FDA approved, oh it was an emergency.

R RussellRika 6 hours ago

I have a twelve year old, and not a chance I'd allow her to volunteer for any vaccine trial, and especially not this one. She very much wanted to get a vaccine, until she started reading about some of the adverse reactions. Sorry, but I'm a child, the benefit does not outweigh the risk.

MrEd50 6 hours ago

I took the vaccine because I'm 60 years old and work with special ed kids. My 18 year old child refuses to take it and I support him on this. COVID shouldn't be an issue for most of us.

[Jul 01, 2021] Wonder what Mullis would have to say to Fauci on CNN these days?

Jul 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Gunston_Nutbush_Hall 1 hour ago (Edited)

Wonder what Mullis would have to say to Fauci on CNN these days?

"Guy's like Fauci, get up there and start talking, he doesn't know anything really about anything, and I'd say that to his face. Nothing. The man thinks you can take a blood sample and stick it in an electron microscope and if its got a virus in there, you'll know it. He doesn't understand electron microscopy, he doesn't understand medicine, he should not be in a position that he's in. " "Guys like Tony Fauci, do not mind going on the television, in front of the people that pay his salary, and lie directly into the camera." Kary Banks Mullis, 1993 Nobel Prize Winner, PCR Testing

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8KsH34IGgqBw/

[Jul 01, 2021] Experts -- US COVID-19 positivity rate high due to 'too sensitive' tests by Marlene Lenthang

Highly recommended!
This one big fraud. And Fauci is implicated. the fact that in the USA the results of the test do not come with the number of amplifications used speaks volumes about the current medical establishement.
Notable quotes:
"... With a cutoff of 35, about half of those tests would no longer qualify as positive. About 70 percent would no longer be judged positive if the cycles were limited to 30. ..."
"... It's just kind of mind-blowing to me that people are not recording the C.T. values from all these tests -- that they're just returning a positive or a negative,' Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University in New York, said. ..."
Aug 30, 2020 | www.msn.com

Marlene Lenthang For Dailymail.com 8/30/2020

Up to 90 percent of people tested for COVID-19 in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada in July carried barely any traces of the virus and it could be because today's tests are 'too sensitive', experts say.

... PCR tests analyze genetic matter from the virus in cycles and today's tests typically take 37 or 40 cycles, but experts say this is too high because it detects very small amounts of the virus that don't pose a risk.

... ... ...

Experts say a reasonable cutoff for the virus would be 30 or 35 cycles, according to Juliet Morrison, a virologist at the University of California, Riverside.

Mina said he would set the cutoff at 30.

New York's state lab Wadsworth analyzed cycle thresholds values in already processed COVID-19 PCR tests and found in July that 794 positive tests were based on a threshold of 40 cycles.

With a cutoff of 35, about half of those tests would no longer qualify as positive. About 70 percent would no longer be judged positive if the cycles were limited to 30.

In Massachusetts, from 85 to 90 percent of people who tested positive in July with a cycle threshold of 40 would have been considered negative if the threshold were 30 cycles, Mina said.

'I would say that none of those people should be contact-traced, not one,' he said.

The Food and Drug Administration said that it does not specify the cycle threshold ranges used to determine who is positive and 'commercial manufacturers and laboratories set their own.'

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said it is examining the use of cycle threshold measures for 'policy decision'.

The CDC said its own calculations suggest its extremely hard to detect a live virus in a sample above a threshold of 33 cycles.

It's just kind of mind-blowing to me that people are not recording the C.T. values from all these tests -- that they're just returning a positive or a negative,' Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University in New York, said.

[Jul 01, 2021] There is zero evidence that those that previously had covid get reinfected

Jul 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

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Gugsknowsall 3 hours ago remove link

I had covid last summer, for me was like a bad flu, 3-4 days of severe symptoms then I recovered, never went to hospital. There is zero evidence that those that previously had covid get reinfected, none at all, we have developed natural immunity. Inspite of this everyone is pushing me to get DNA altering vaccines, everyone, even my Dr., who should know better.

What I find ammusing in all of this is that the same people pushing this vaccine on me and others are the same people who won't even eat a GMO banana, paying 5 times more for "organic" bananas...

Sono 2 hours ago

Yesterday a friend of mine who works in major hospital said she had a patient whom is 34 male, no prior health complications was put through surgery to remove a major blood clot. It's unclear what damage was done at least as of yesterday. Chart says he received the Pfizer vaccine April 19th and may 6th. Did the vaccine cause this? Anybody guess. But hospital staff noted how unusual his case is.

rejectnumbskull 3 hours ago (Edited)

It is beyond sad when the so-called medical industry feels it has the authority to label Americans into these 2 categories. Kick Fauci out now! The sick-care mafia has no business dictating any type of domestic policy.

SaulAzzHoleSky 3 hours ago

Study out of England shows HIGHER emergency room and death rates (2x-8x) among vaccinated people older than 50 compared to those unvaccinated older than 50. See pages 13-14.

Those below 50 had lower rates but shouldn't they be completely immune??

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/997418/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_17.pdf

HowdyDoody 2 hours ago

The 'vaccines' were accepted for emergency use on the basis that they slightly reduced the severity of symptoms in slight cases of disease. Joe and Jane Public think the 'vaccine' gives them immunity. MSM has not been correcting the misunderstanding

Twox2 3 hours ago (Edited)

"If you are vaccinated, you diminish dramatically your risk of getting infected and even more dramatically your risk of getting seriously ill. If you are not vaccinated, you are at considerable risk," Fauci once again repeated.

"Mr. Science" seems to have another agenda entirely, since he clearly makes it up as he goes along. I used the Covid risk calculator (from Oxford University...which many consider the number one rated university in the world) and it showed my risk of death at 4 in 10,000 and risk of hospitalization at 1 in 732...during the three-month peak of the pandemic.

As one in his 7th decade, with 3 stents, this is my purported "considerable risk".

How does this guy retain any credibility at all?

White Domestic Tourist 3 hours ago

Vaxxes would be deadly to people with vascular conditions i think.

11b40 3 hours ago

Yep....73 yr old cancer survivor (Agent Orange Lymphoma). Never took flu shots, never got the flu. No plans to get one of these jabs, either, as like you, I did my own research. I'm fit and lead a healthy lifestyle. Also believe in Ivermectin & HCQ regimens if I happen to get infected with something serious. Took HCQ malaria pills, like so many other soldiers, with no side effects. Everybody took them when told the other option was malaria. Since the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident, I have been watching my government lie to me, and this has felt like one big con job since the beginning. There is no doubt in my mind now that long term, the results of these shots will not be good for us.

[Jul 01, 2021] Fauci: There Are Now Two Americas, The Vaccinated The Unvaccinated ; ZH commenter: There are now two Americas. One that's retarded. And one that wants Fauci on a lamppost.

Authorities doe not telling truth: people who already have COVID do not need to be vaccinated. Also if Delta varient can infect vaccineted in conserable quantities how any resobale person can maintain this goal of "herg immunity". How it can be achieved if a vaccinated person can be infected and thus spread the disease both amoung vaccinated cohort and among the unvaccinated cohort. The fact the vaccinated people are infected with Delta changes the game and here Senator Paul is wrong.
Pushing vaccination on chidren in such curcumstances changes nothing is became a very questionable move both from scientific an from ethical perspective.
Jul 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

America's favourite Chinese lab funding coronavirus doomonger doctor Anthony Fauci announced Tuesday that there are now two Americas, a vaccinated America and an unvaccinated America.

As Senator Rand Paul noted earlier this week , there is a boat load of misinformation on the matter coming from a government that is indiscriminately pushing vaccinations:

Rand Paul TEARS Into Senate Witness for Indiscriminately Pushing Vaccines


SexyJulian 3 hours ago

There are now two Americas. One that's retarded. And one that wants Fauci on a lamppost.

liberty2 1 hour ago (Edited)

Note that the officials said there's no such thing as "herd immunity" last year. Now this year they keep saying that we can reach "herd immunity" if we are 70% vaxxed! Terms are used if it fits their narrative.

Ride_the_kali_yuga 3 hours ago (Edited)

In the Covidian Cult, there is true believers in one side and heretics on the other side. Vaxxed and unvaxxed.

Divide and rule strategy, as always. Do not undurestimate the ratio of retarded people among the population, it has been growing like a cancer for decades. It amazes me how perfectly coordinated those MSM Covidian propaganda events appears worldwide.

In here France, 2 days ago, most MSM have all simultaneously gone full berserk (without any reason) blaming the reluctant ones. One of them on TV said something like : "if it was me, i will use police to drag those who refuse these "vaccines" from their home and force it on them"

This was priceless, this little man has morbid obesity. We now officialy all live on the twilight zone on steroids. Land whales dictate how people should consider their own health. This ride seems to never end.

We now have officialy entered the dehumanization phase of the unvaxxed. The sanitary gulag is not far from here.

NIRP-BTFD 1 hour ago

There are 2 Americas. The 0.01% (the rulers that own everything) and the serfs.

DemandSider 1 hour ago

Exactly, parasite and host. Fauci would be the former, obviously.

[Jun 30, 2021] Twelve year was enrolled in the Pfizer vaccine clinical trial. She's now in a wheelchair, has an NG tube, and is suffering from severe memory loss, along with many other issues.

Statement by the mom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ZqhvwP9Ws
The key unanswered question is: what benefits for 12 years old vaccine provides. I do not see any, while risks are real and unknown. At this point we already know that vaccine cause serious heart problems in some vaccinated young people (say below 30 yours old)
Fauci bears some responsibility for this indent
Jun 30, 2021 | citizenfreepress.com
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Twelve year-old Maddie was enrolled in the Pfizer vaccine clinical trial. She's now in a wheelchair, has an NG tube, and is suffering from severe memory loss, along with many other issues.

Full video is here

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I am SO sorry for this girl. She relied on her parents, their job, to protect their minor children. They failed.
I am very sorry for what's happened, but lady that is exactly what you get by disregarding your fellow citizens &
relying on the government for your truth. Its been obvious to all those with open minds, that this entire pandemic is
a huge scam, the worst scam in human history. The old saying comes to mind, "and if the government told you to go jump
off the roof, would you?" Sadly leftists answer, "how many times?" Karen

The only way I would I "consider" allowing my child to sign up to be a guinea pig in any clinical trial is if they had a life threating incurable disease and the trial was specific to their disease & participation was a "chance" to save their life. I worked in a clinical trial office, you agree to being the guinea pig when you agree that you will never know if you're injected with
1. a placebo OR
2. the "drug" its self.
You're also informed in advance of how many visits (minimal # of visits) the trial will require of you to fully participate as it usually requires regularly scheduled bi weekly or monthly visits. It's in a office setting & your mandated to keep the doctor informed of everything, even an emergency, because theres a written script "behind the scenes" of what to do along the way if "this" or "that" happens. That way you collect better data of adverse reactions. Plus there are the very important (to the medical side anyway) non disclosure agreements.
I noticed here it seems the family reached out to "emercency" facilities when things started going wrong.
Are these "trials" being conducted standard procedure or not. MAJOR DANGER

What sort of parent would give their kid an untested, un-needed vaccine? There is NO excuse. None. Zero. Mother should be in tears. 100% well deserved.

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" in healthcare" means nothing anymore. I've been in healthcare for 25 years and it blows my mind how many 500,000$ plus educations lined up for the "vax" AND do not know the simple definition of a vaccine. I watched 1st hand as practically overnight medicine went from being science based to political weapon. We used to have to have an evidence based system where doctors would look at the published studies and make decisions based on the best info available. That's all gone now. You can't even trust the medical journals anymore that at one time were the pinnacles of scientific medical discovery. The hospital I've worked in for 25 years is going to mandate the vax as soon as the FDA approves it,which means I'm out. 15% of us are unvaxed and they have plans to get rid of us. The medical tyranny STARTED w the mandating of the flu shot years ago for HC workers and now it's covid. It's not going to end ,just wait til the next shit show released on us. Next time they will have the ballz to say ur locked in ur home until u comply. Then when u can't pay ur property taxes because u cant leave the house to work u find out who actually owns ur home. Peetoonya

The US "Healthcare" INDUSTRY ranks 37th in the world. John Hopkins put out a report that the 3rd leading cause of death is going to your doctor and doing what he/she says! I remember in the 90's they ran off or bought out most of the private practices especially in the rural areas with malpractice claims if they didn't sell out. But these days you can make up to $50,000 a year just sending people the bill for your inflicted genocide. Medical Billing Specialist Salary in the United States https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/medical-billing-specialist-salary All the cowardly doctors will do as they are told for fear of losing their license. PS The profession that has the highest rate of suicide is Doctors! I haven't been to a doctor in 21 years. Riseliberty

This is not a vaccine. Do you understand? It is experimental gene therapy. You cannot compare this with any FDA approved vaccine you've had in the past. Hehe62

Before watching one clip I suggest you watch the entire press conference. ALL of the participants explained they are pro science and pro vaccine up front.
They have been harmed-most likely permanently by this *vaccine* and as you can see by the twitter disclaimer they have been silenced, told they are suffering from anxiety versus a vaccine side effect and our medical community has done NOTHING to follow up on what is going on.

As an NP who has been thrust into covid from the get go I now daily see covid 19 vaccine injuries albeit less than those suffered from these victims; depending on how you see it.

Type 1 diabetes in a perfectly healthy 16 year old athletic boy with healthy family members now requiring insulin for the rest of his life-happened right after 2nd pfizer. Tons of shingles and herpes viruses, and regular colds that have taken out staff members for 3-4 weeks versus 2-3 days in the past.

As an NP that started in the military and has all vaccines and vaccinated all my children and seeing and living in the medical community throughout this I personally will NEVER get another vaccine the government suggests or requires ever again. I will NEVER go see a mainstream medical provider ever again unless I'm taken against my will or knowledge.

Sure, tons of people have gotten the vax without issue, but YOU are the phase III clinical trial for this thing, it has only been about 6 months. Long term effects who knows. I have a feeling it isn't going to get better. And the fact that these people have been completely silenced, questioned, and "debunked" by mainstream media and the public as a whole that suddenly seems to have 100% confidence in their government???? is EXTREMELY concerning. Ron

God bless Maddie and her family. For context, I'd like to know how many children have had the Pfizer vaccine without serious side effects. We shouldn't fall into the left wing tactics of using anecdotal emotional cases to distort reality to make a larger point. The fact is that vaccines have saved millions of lives and prevented millions of crippling side effects from polio, smallpox, yellow fever, mumps, measles, hepatitis, HPV . Regretfully, some of the vaccinated have suffered side effects, but the benefit greatly outweighs the risk. JedWSmith

For perspective, this "vaccine" has caused more deaths than all the other vaccines given over the last century. Maybe caution is warranted. This little child had an almost ZERO chance of any complications from the China virus. There's ZERO reason for someone who's had the China virus and recovered, having natural antibodies, to get the vaccine. The therapeutics work. They were demonized only because a sitting president, hated by the fake media, big pharma, and the DC deep state, promoted them. Dillard

Offering up your child for experiments, was it for $$$$$$$?

Remember the Canadian govt with pop up vaccination sites offering children ice cream if they got the jab, and they did it WITHOUT PARENTS CONSENT? Think about that one. The govt rolls up and opens a vaccine tent near your home, your child sees FREE ICE CREAM and goes to get free ice cream and gets injected without your knowledge. That is some real evil there. William Walker

I'm terribly sorry for the young girl, but I'm inflamed with anger that the stupid parents put not one, but THREE children through clinical trials giving them the vaccine–all the while touting the science (oh, the science!) which completely contradicts the claims that young people are in any way threatened by Covid as a demographic. This is tragic, this is moronic liberalism, and this is a direct result of the parents swilling all the false idiocy from CNN and MSNBC without questioning the actual empirical data and science. PALydia

"Trials" are done to determine outcome. The word "trial" is synonymous with the word "experiment." I.e. you are playing Russian Roulette when you enroll your child in ANY trial. That IS science. You should NEVER assume something is safe and harmless when it is still in "trial" phase .never mind these vaccines bypassed animal trials and all previous mRNA vaccines failed animal trials. My heart breaks for this child but it's criminal for any parent to subject their child to this. LiberalsRPinworms

Was waiting for the "but we still think you should vaccinate your kids too "

I find it interesting that all these cult members keep saying they're pro science. However, scientific experiments are based on hypotheses, not already known facts. Why is she upset? Her kid wanted to provide data to this experiment and did just that. Too bad she wasn't an outlier considering, if she were, she could probably still eat food on her own. Thanks for your contribution to the science folks! navi282

I am very sorry about what has happened to Maddie, but the responsibility lies with the parents who believe in the false religion of "scientism" and have opted into the con-game that vaccinations are genuine healing methodologies. As an engineer Maddie's mother should have studied logic and the philosophy of science and then discerned that the politicization of the medical field in recent years created confirmation bias, poor SPC (statistical process control), and question-begging fallacies from those who should have known better. Complicity or Ignorance -- take your pick. Matt Walters

Being pro-science means you base decisions on data. There is not yet a data set for the short and long-term risks, benefits, and side effects of this vaccine that would allow a science-based decision to take it or not. Those who are pro science wait for reliable data before considering taking an experimental vaccine that is not approved by the FDA. constitution rules

For USA children ages 5 to 18:
Population: ~57,000,000
Covid deaths: 263
Chance: < 1 in 200,000 Para Bellum

I notice a common trend among these child abuser parents .they go online to complain how their kids were maimed by the experimental mRNA, but then they always have to preface it by saying "oh but we're pro vaccine and pro science"

Well, I am anti-vaccine and I'm anti-mRNA. Have some conviction you retard. No wonder you find yourselves in the position you're in.

I sincerely feel bad for your kids. You stole their lives from them and they will never be the same and while the fallen man part of me wants to say "just deserts", the Catholic part of me prays the rosary for you and your kids every single night. solome

' .we are pro-vaccine and pro-science'

.these parents make a great case that academia does not necessarily convey common sense it can convey a buttload of chutzpah ..we know that because Washington DC is full of it excessive hubris, too and, in turn, they can make decisions that prove disastrous for the future of We the People Christina

This is a terrible tragedy for this family. I hope this beautiful young girl will eventualy recover fully. I hope her parents will recover as well.

As for her parents, however, who are obviously very intelligent, did they miss the reams and reams of scientific studies, white papers, and patent applications available to the public before they permitted their child to get this not yet approved, experimental gene therapy injection?

Did they not watch the hours and hours of video interviews and presentations by doctors, virologists, epidemiologists, etc., who warned, warned, warned us to NOT TAKE IT?

Even after big tech started censoring and scrubbing most of this information off the net and everywhere else, even before the massive pro-vax propaganda machine cranked up, millions of people informed themselves about what it really is and thus decided to not be part of the human trials.

Most of us had our flu shots and regular real vaccines as well, real vaccines are not the issue, here.

I'm really sorry to tell you this, Mom, but you either ignored the real science or you, too, were caught up in the propaganda that caused so many people to automatically reject any thing people on the other side of the debate had to say.

One more red flag when it comes to politics and propaganda: DID YOU NOT QUESTION WHY SO MANY MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS WHO TRIED TO WARN US HAD THEIR INFORMATION SCRUBBED, CENSORED, LOST THEIR JOBS, AND RECEIVED DEATH THREATS SIMPLY FOR DOING DUE DILIGENCE AND ENGAGING IN THE ALWAYS REQUIRED DEBATES AMONG MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS BEFORE APPROVING VACCINES? AND THEN WARNING THE PUBLIC BEFORE THE POLITIAL CAMPAIGN BEGAN.

This is a very, very sad day in America. It's a very, very sad day for this family.

But maybe other parents will think twice, now, before they sign their children up for potentailly horrific experiences related to the gene therapy injections. Maria

So sad. I feel sorry for the girl. But parents are volunteering much young children.
Look at this:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/3-siblings-get-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-as-part-of-global-trials-in-young-children/ar-AALjHd5 President Donald J. Trumper

"Twelve year-old Maddie was enrolled in the Pfizer vaccine clinical trial."

The complete blame belongs on the parents. The tearful mother, an electrical engineer, said she and her husband were pro-vaccine. If they were so smart, why in the hell would they enroll their CHILD in a clinical trial for a fast-tracked vaccine, especially when children are not in a high-risk group, and Covid-19 survival is 99.8 percent? I am furious with these highly educated people. THEY WERE DUMBER THAN DOORKNOBS TO SACRIFICE THAT GIRL TO THE GOVERNMENT/PHARMA COMPLEX. Libby ChickenLittle

When I was a 12 year old girl, I didn't even know what a clinical trial was. But then again, I grew up at time when kids were allowed to be just kids and not political pawns by their brainwashed parents. Sorry mom – I know comments are going to be harsh – but you deserve EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. smith. jane smith.

Q. How does a government make a pro-vaccine person turn into an anti-vaccine person?

A. Give them a vaccine that makes them sicker than they were before they got the vaccine, sicker with the very thing the vaccine was supposed to prevent.

I was told to go get a flu shot by my commander. Being a good USAF airman, I did so. I was just a kid following orders. Two days later I was in the hospital, so sick with the flu until I could not take 4 steps without getting so dizzy that I had to stop moving to keep from throwing up. And it took 5 days before I was able to walk down a hallway without getting dizzy!

That was the last time I ever had a flu shot. Or the flu.

And that was over 35 years ago.

If the vaccine is such a good idea, then why does everybody have to get it in order for it to work?

How about those who get the vaccine just leave those alone who choose not to get it?

And after what has happened to this lady's kid(s) .

Why the heck is she still PRO‐vaccine ???? 58

I blame the Fauci, Government, and the MSM for brainwashing fear amongst the masses. If you are repeatedly gaslighted about almost every issue, you begin to believe the lies. You can add schools also as they indoctrinate instead of teaching critical thinking.

[Jun 26, 2021] Fauci refused to fund large clinical trials for antivirals in March 2020

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Fauci should be rotten in prison now for the very simple reason that it refused to fund large clinical trials for antivirals in March 2020. We only have a dozen antivirals that we can try and yet, even today, after 15 months and 600k deaths the CDC still doesn't know if Ivermectin works. Even if it worked to prevent 10% of deaths... out of 600k that's 60k. A stadium full of people that shouldn't have died.

[Jun 26, 2021] The Real Anthony Fauci- Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health (Children's Health Defense)

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Jun 26, 2021 | www.amazon.com

When the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) since November 1984 and the leading architect of "agency capture" -- the corporate seizure of America's public health agencies by the pharmaceutical industry -- happen to be the same man, conflicts of interest arise. Wearing both hats, Dr. Anthony Stephen Fauci, tasked with managing the COVID-19 pandemic in the US, peddled and back-pedaled his prescriptions as Pharma profits and bureaucratic powers grew and public health waned.

Working in tandem with his long-term partner, billionaire Bill Gates, to corral Americans toward a single vaccine solution to COVID, Dr. Fauci committed zero dollars to studying or promoting early treatment with various drug combinations that could dramatically reduce deaths and hospitalizations. Meanwhile, in an assault on our First Amendment guarantee of free speech, Dr. Fauci's Silicon Valley and media allies dutifully censored criticism of his policies on mainstream social media and collaborated to muzzle any medical information about therapies and treatments that might end the pandemic and compete with vaccines.

After effectively abolishing the First Amendment right to free speech, Dr. Fauci subverted our Seventh Amendment rights to jury trials by arranging to shield reckless and negligent pharmaceutical corporations from liability for injuries from any COVID countermeasures, including vaccines. His lockdowns targeted First Amendment religious freedom by closing churches -- while keeping liquor stores open as "essential businesses" -- and abolishing century-old religious exemptions to vaccination. Dr. Fauci's enforced quarantine trampled the Constitutional rights of assembly, of association, and to petition the government, and our Fifth Amendment protection against uncompensated taking of private property. His arbitrary mask and lockdown diktats, without public hearings or rulemaking, strangled our Fourth and Fourteenth Amendment due process guarantees. His tracking and tracing initiatives bulldozed Constitutional rights to privacy and travel, and our Fourth Amendment protections against warrantless searches and seizures.

Finally, readers will see how Dr. Fauci and Bill Gates, asserting biosecurity rationales, worked together to finance and promote the very gain-of-function experiments in Wuhan that may have released the COVID-19 pathogen.

[Jun 26, 2021] The End of Faucism is Nigh as Democrats Ditch the Doctor by JD Rucker

"Objective judgement is our jugement about the people we do not like ;-)"
In view of the fact that Delta (Indian) variant can infect vaccinated with the first generation of vaccines people Fauci statement "when you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health, that of the family, but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community." i obviously wrong. Delta Covid-19 Variant Can Infect Vaccinated People
See also Delta variant infected two Orange County residents who were fully vaccinated - Orlando Sentinel and Just 26 fully vaccinated people have died from Delta variant
May 16, 2021 | freedomfirstnetwork.com

Those who don't get their news from mainstream media have been aware of Anthony Fauci's connection to "gain of function" research for months. Now, mainstream media is picking it up so the White House is scrambling.

For months, there wasn't a day that went by when Dr. Anthony Fauci wasn't doing multiple interviews spreading fear of Covid-19, demanding people take the various "vaccines," and changing his talking points from moment to moment on a slew of healthcare-related issues. We saw a clear change last week when the White House's chief doc seemed to fly under the radar for the first time since Joe Biden took office.

It all comes down to "gain of function" research that is almost certainly the cause of the Wuhan Flu. Developed in the Wuhan Virology Lab, Covid-19 either escaped or was intentionally released. While many in academia still hold onto the notion that the pandemic was started by bats, they do so simply because it hasn't -- and likely cannot -- be completely ruled out as long as the Chinese Communist Party has a say in the matter. But many are now accepting the likelihood that it came from the Wuhan Virology Lab as a result of "gain of function" research.

We also now know that Fauci has been a huge proponent of this research and he participated in funding it at the Wuhan Virology Lab. More evidence is emerging every day despite the bad doctor's protestations. And when I say "we also now know," that's to say more mainstream media watchers know. Those who turn to alternative media have known about Fauci's involvement with the Wuhan Virology Lab for a while.

They've been trying to cover their tracks. A bombshell revelation from The National Pulse yesterday showed they realized this was going to be a problem long before Rand Paul or Tucker Carlson started calling Fauci out.

The Wuhan Institute of Virology scrubbed the U.S. National Institutes of Health as one of its research partners from its website in early 2021. The revelation comes despite Dr. Anthony Fauci insisting no relationship existed between the institutions.

Archived versions of the Wuhan lab's site also reveal a research update – " Will SARS Come Back? " – appearing to describe gain-of-function research being conducted at the institute by entities funded by Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).

On March 21st, 2021, the lab's website listed six U.S.-based research partners: University of Alabama, University of North Texas, EcoHealth Alliance, Harvard University, The National Institutes of Health (NIH), the United States, and the National Wildlife Federation.

One day later, the page was revised to contain just two research partners – EcoHealth Alliance and the University of Alabama. By March 23rd, EcoHealth Alliance was the sole partner remaining .

EcoHealth Alliance is run by long-standing Chinese Communist Party-partner Dr. Peter Daszak , who National Pulse Editor-in-Chief Raheem Kassam has repeatedly claimed will be the first "fall guy" of the Wuhan lab debacle.

The Wuhan Institute of Virology's decision to wipe the NIH from its website came amidst heightened scrutiny that the lab was the source of COVID-19 – and that U.S. taxpayer dollars from the NIH may have funded the research. The unearthing of the lab's attempted coverup also follows a heated exchange between Senator Rand Paul and Fauci, who attempted to distance his organization from the Wuhan lab.

Beyond establishing a working relationship between the NIH and the Wuhan Institue of Virology, now-deleted posts from the site also detail studies bearing the hallmarks of gain-of-function research conducted with the Wuhan-based lab. Fauci, however, asserted to Senator Paul that "the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

There is still a tremendous gap between those who know the truth about Fauci and those who still think he's just a smart little guy who tells Joe Biden what to do when it comes to Covid. As we've documented multiple times in the past, there seems to be a cult of personality surrounding Fauci, or as many have called it, Faucism. He is practically worshipped as a savior by millions who believe everything he says even if he contradicts something he had said in the past.

Today, he was interviewed on CBS News during "Face the Nation." It was a softball interview, as always, and at no point was "gain of function" research discussed. Instead, John Dickerson tried to sound smart and Fauci gave him kudos in an odd back-and-forth promoting vaccines.

JOHN DICKERSON : So, if- if a person is deciding whether or not to get vaccinated, they have to keep in mind whether it's going to keep them healthy. But based on these new findings, it would suggest they also have an opportunity, if vaccinated, to knock off or block their ability to transmit it to other people. So, does it increase the public health good of getting the vaccination or make that clearer based on these new findings?

DR. FAUCI : And you know, JOHN, you said it very well. I could have said it better. It's absolutely the case. And that's the reason why we say when you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health, that of the family, but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community. And in other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere. And that's when you get a point that you have a markedly diminished rate of infection in the community. And that's exactly the reason, and you said it very well, of why we encourage people and want people to get vaccinated. The more people you get vaccinated, the safer the entire community is.

JOHN DICKERSON : And do you think now that this guidance has come out on relaxing the mass mandates if you've been vaccinated, that people who might have been hesitant before will start to get vaccinated in greater numbers?

DR. FAUCI : You know, I hope so, JOHN. The underlying reason for the CDC doing this was just based on the evolution of the science that I mentioned a moment ago. But if, in fact, this serves as an incentive for people to get vaccinated, all the better. I hope it does, actually.

Don't let the presence of this interview fool you. It was almost certainly scheduled before the "gain of function" research discussion hit the mainstream. But as Revolver News reported today, we should start seeing less and less of Fauci going forward.

What happened to the almighty Dr. Fauci? Last week he was on TV telling all of us that life wouldn't get back to normal for at least another year or so, and this week he's pretty much gone. So what happened?

Well, a lot, actually. The biggest turn for Fauci involves 3 little words: Gain of Function. It was this past week when the "gain of function" dots were publicly connected to the good doctor. This is nothing new for those of us on the right. Here on Revolver, we've covered Fauci's gain of function research extensively and the evidence against him is very damning.

A couple of months ago Fox News Host Steve Hilton blew the lid off of Fauci's macabre obsession (and funding) of research involving the manipulation of highly contagious viruses. Hilton laid the groundwork, but it was Senator Rand Paul who called out Fauci and his ghoulish research face to face during a Senate hearing.

But even more notable, is that the CDC just updated their guidelines on mask-wearing and essentially ended the pandemic -- a pandemic that Fauci has been the proud face of for over a year now -- and when that announcement hit, he was nowhere to be found. And his absence didn't go unnoticed.

Yes indeed, you'd think that Fauci would have been front and center to discuss the CDC's new guidelines the moment the news hit. The "Golden Boy" taking yet another victory lap. After all, Fauci never misses a moment in the spotlight. But he was not hitting the airwaves with the typical fanfare.

It is still very possible that Fauci can make a resurgence. His fan-base is up there with Meghan Markle and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, though even more devoted than the divas'. Unlike other useful idiots, the White House will not be able to detach easily from Fauci, nor do they want to. At this point, they're telling him to lay low and avoid any interviews in which they do not have complete control over the "journalist" involved. John Dickerson has been a Democrat Party pawn for decades.

Behind the scenes, they're already planning on ditching him. It will be done with all the pomp one would expect for one of their heroes and will be used to mark the end of the "emergency" in the United States. He'll still be promoting vaccines and will try to stay in his precious limelight, but Democrats are ready to move on and open up the country. It has just been too politically suicidal to persist with their lockdown mentality.

The key to seeing Fauci's narcissistic reign end is for patriots to continue to hammer him on his involvement with developing Covid-19. His beloved "gain of function research" needs to be explained to any who will listen. Then, maybe, Fauci will go away.

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[Jun 26, 2021] 26 fully vaccinated people have died from Delta variant

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This is a fiasco for Fauci "herd immunity" campaign. It means that vaccinated people can become infected and spread the virus much like unvaccinated people.
Jun 26, 2021 | news.yahoo.com

Cases of the Delta variant of coronavirus have almost doubled in a week with 73 people now confirmed to have died after testing positive for the variant, 26 of whom had had both vaccine doses.

Public Health England (PHE) said that as of Monday, the UK has seen 75,953 confirmed cases of the Delta variant first identified in India, up 33,630 - or 79% - from the previous week.

While just 26 people died more than two weeks after their second COVID-19 vaccine dose from the Delta variant, more than 30.6 million in the UK have had both jabs, according to the latest government figures .

PHE said a total of 806 people in England have been admitted to hospital with the Delta variant as of 14 June, a rise of 423 on the previous week.

[Jun 26, 2021] GOP Sen. Ron Johnson Under Fire for Holding Event on Adverse Reactions to COVID Vaccines by Natalie Colarossi

So we have real problems with vaccines as Delta mutation puts the end of Fauci and company fake dream about herd immunity -- it infects vaccinated people, but we can't discuss that the US medical establishment is corrupt, in bed with Big Pharma and failed us.
This "medical bolshevism" should better be stopped.
Notable quotes:
"... Johnson said Sheryl Ruettgers will detail "severe neurological reactions that still inhibit her ability to live a normal life, including muscle pain, numbness, weakness and paresthesia" that she experienced after getting the COVID-19 vaccine earlier this month. ..."
Jun 26, 2021 | www.msn.com

Wisconsin Republican Senator Ron Johnson announced plans to hold a news conference to discuss adverse reactions related to the COVID-19 vaccine, drawing backlash from health care experts who view the move as "dangerous" and a way to promote misinformation.

© Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) is facing backlash after he announced plans to hold a news conference to discuss the negative effects of the COVID-19 vaccine. Here, Johnson listens during a hearing in the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee on June 22, 2021 in Washington, DC.

In a statement Friday, Johnson said he plans to give a platform to six people from across the country who claim to have had negative health reactions after receiving the coronavirus jab. Johnson said the conference will take place Monday to allow the individuals to tell their stories and discuss issues that have been "repeatedly ignored" by the medical community, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

The Republican senator, who has been a vocal critic of vaccine mandates and has previously advocated for alternative and unproven drug treatments to COVID-19, faced immediate backlash from critics who feel the event will be a platform for spreading misinformation about the safety of vaccines.

Dr. Jeff Huebner, a doctor in Madison, Wisconsin, said that Johnson was "promoting dangerous and unfounded claims" about the vaccine that contradict medical research and analysis.

"As a member of the Wisconsin medical community I'm gravely concerned about the impact his event and remarks will have on our ability to return to normal and protect Wisconsinites from COVID-19.," Huebner said in a statement, the Journal Sentinel reported .

Joanna Bisgrove, a Wisconsin primary care doctor, told FOX6 that Johnson's statements and event are "putting people at risk and already hurting people."

Tony Evers, the state's Democratic governor, added Friday that Johnson was being "reckless and irresponsible" and said the event was "jeopardizing the health and safety" of the state's vaccine rollout and economic recovery.

.@SenRonJohnson, you're being reckless and irresponsible. The #COVID19 vaccine is safe and effective and based on years of science and research. Every time you suggest otherwise, you're jeopardizing the health and safety of the people of our state and our economic recovery.

-- Governor Tony Evers (@GovEvers) June 25, 2021

In defense, Johnson said Friday that he is "just asking questions" and isn't against the vaccine.

"We're all supporters of vaccines. As I've repeatedly said, I'm glad that hundreds of millions of Americans have been vaccinated, but I don't think authorities can ignore and censor some of the issues," Johnson said in a tweet responding to Evers. "On Monday, we'll bring light to stories that deserve to be seen, heard & believed."

Monday's event in Milwaukee will include statements from former Green Bay Packers player Ken Ruettgers and his wife, Sheryl.

Johnson said Sheryl Ruettgers will detail "severe neurological reactions that still inhibit her ability to live a normal life, including muscle pain, numbness, weakness and paresthesia" that she experienced after getting the COVID-19 vaccine earlier this month.

Additional testimonies will be heard from individuals from Ohio, Missouri, Utah, Michigan and Tennessee.

The medical community has long stressed that the benefits of the COVID-19 vaccine far outweigh the risks of possible side effects. Earlier this week, top U.S. health officials, medical agencies, laboratory and hospital associations issued a statement reiterating the benefits by stating that getting vaccinated is the "best way to protect yourself, your loved ones, your community, and to return to a more normal lifestyle safely and quickly."

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[Jun 26, 2021] This not Fauci's first fraud

Jun 23, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

JackOliver6 13 hours ago

This not Fauci's first HOAX

https://www.brasscheck.com/video/aids-tony-faucis-first-big-fraud/

toejam 12 hours ago

Oh that's good. Much obliged Jack.

[Jun 26, 2021] Fauci and other government officials are coming under increased scrutiny for continuously moving the goalposts.

Jun 25, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

moving the goalposts .

When does this end? Why must this go on? They cannot and will not answer because this is not about a virus. Yet when we are told we must lockdown again, especially when the triple mutant variants arise

[Jun 26, 2021] Fauci caught again without pants and declares delta variant 'greatest threat' to the nation's efforts to eliminate Covid

Covid-19 possible created using money from Fauci funded "gain of function" experiments has not thrown its last surprise at us and there will be several more variants over the next period
So he admits that the current vaccination is ineffective against this variant or what ? Fauci claim that effectiveness of Pfizer vaccine in 88% but is it "against hospitalization" or "against infection." is unclear. Also other study suggests that Pfizer vaccine is six times less effective again this new strain.
Jun 22, 2021 | www.cnbc.com
Berkeley Lovelace Jr. @BERKELEYJR

White House chief medical advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said Tuesday the highly contagious delta variant is the "greatest threat" to the nation's attempt to eliminate Covid-19.

delta appears to be "following the same pattern" as alpha, the variant first found in the U.K., with infections doubling in the U.S. about every two weeks.

"Similar to the situation in the U.K., the delta variant is currently the greatest threat in the U.S. to our attempt to eliminate Covid-19," he said.

Studies suggest it is around 60% more transmissible than alpha, which was more contagious than the original strain that emerged from Wuhan, China, in late 2019

... ... ...

The United Kingdom recently saw the delta variant become the dominant strain there, surpassing alpha, which was first detected in the country last fall. The delta variant now makes up more than 60% of new cases in the U.K.

Health officials say there are reports that the delta variant also causes more severe symptoms, but that more research is needed to confirm those conclusions. Still, there are signs that the delta strain could provoke different symptoms than other variants.

... "The effectiveness of the vaccines, in this case, two weeks after the second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech was 88% effective against the delta and 93% effective against alpha when dealing with symptomatic disease," Fauci said, citing a study.

The World Health Organization said Friday that delta is becoming the dominant variant of the disease worldwide.

Delta has now spread to 92 countries

[Jun 24, 2021] Dr. Fauci and the Mask Disaster

Notable quotes:
"... Fauci is the poster child for an unaccomplished, entrenched, bureaucrat. He has lived his entire life in that cocoon. ..."
Jun 24, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Virus exists only in droplets. and masks are able to filter droplets, somewhat diminishing the changes to get infection and, especially, to spread it with cough, where without mask droplets travel several meters.

Nobody needs to be shocked that political messaging was going on during the Covid crisis, as seen in the Anthony Fauci emails from early in the pandemic recently released under the Freedom of Information Act. Politicians and officials wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't measure the effect of their words, beyond merely their accuracy or consistency. And Dr. Fauci, director of U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases for the past 36 years, has at least been more wink-wink in this regard than many officials.

But the latest furor does underline one thing: what a colossal disaster for public understanding masks have been.

Until November, the official advice was the same that Dr. Fauci gave in a now infamous early email to a colleague -- a store-bought mask may somewhat reduce your chance of spreading the disease if you happen to be infected. It will do little to prevent you from catching it if you're breathing around someone who is exhaling the Covid virus.

Only in the fall did the U.S. government start claiming masks might protect the uninfected too. This appears to have been largely disinformation designed to get more unwitting carriers to wear masks. Even today, the CDC on its website stresses only one claim: "Masks are a simple barrier to help prevent your respiratory droplets from reaching others."

We should expect government advice to be manipulative. That's its job. We should also try to be time-consistent in our reasoning.

When Dr. Fauci emailed his advice to a colleague, the virus was not prevalent enough for precautions to be worthwhile. Do the math. Even at the height of the epidemic, if masks mainly stop spreaders from spreading, 300 million-plus Americans were being asked to wear masks to protect against perhaps 1% who might be infectious at any given moment. And this assumes all infected people were out and about when the real risk would have been mostly from the 0.4% who were infected but asymptomatic.

Universal mask compliance (and the U.S. came fairly close), by multiple models, might have slowed transmission by a modest 30%. Add it all up and we were calling on Americans school-age and up to wear masks to have a negligible impact on their own risk in most circumstances, for a disease that's flu-like in 85% of cases.

L

Leonard Feinman

People whose job it is to react to a crisis will do so, but that does not make their reactions correct. They are forced to take some stand, and right or wrong, that's what they will do. There are times when people should admit they don't have an answer, but there are some like Fauci who will always give you some explanation, even without knowing. The harm comes when he gives lousy advice, giving false hopes, or sending us looking in the wrong direction. Fauci is full of himself, and when the nation looked to him for answers, he "winged it," with any solution he thought might placate us, though he was guessing in the dark. He had no clue he could share, but that did not stop him. He would still be advising if we were still listening to him. He is finally under fire because now we know there was a connection between him and the Wuhan Lab, and his credibility is shot. He needs removal and possible prosecution.
E David Barkley
Fauci is latter day version of P.T. Barnum. There isn't a camera and microphone that he's not shy about touting his magic masks and expounding upon the veracity of the much-maligned Wuhan Labs.
Robert Burns
I've been told by husband & wife scientists that "Science is Science". It was meant to be like "Math is Math"? 2 + 2 = 4. But our new science is actually "Political Science" used to control neophytes and those who believe Government is "for the people" more and more. If 10 Scientists were asked about our Covid-19 issue, we could get 10 different "Scientific Opinions". Fauci was/is useless except for his mastery of being an aid for an agenda.

Scientists/Doctors have lost a lot of credibility in my book.

John Smith
Fauci is the poster child for an unaccomplished, entrenched, bureaucrat. He has lived his entire life in that cocoon.

No doubt he started his career with good intentions. However, at some point, he had to recognize that government agencies had become personal property of selfish bureaucrats interested only in feathering their own beds.

In contrast; Thomas Sowell recognized this early on at the Dept. of Labor. The rest is history, including the fact that these bureaucrats have worked tirelessly to keep that National Treasure a secret.

Thank you Dr. Sowell.

[Jun 24, 2021] Dr. Fauci and the Mask Disaster

Notable quotes:
"... Fauci is the poster child for an unaccomplished, entrenched, bureaucrat. He has lived his entire life in that cocoon. ..."
Jun 24, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Virus exists only in droplets. and masks are able to filter droplets, somewhat diminishing the changes to get infection and, especially, to spread it with cough, where without mask droplets travel several meters.

Nobody needs to be shocked that political messaging was going on during the Covid crisis, as seen in the Anthony Fauci emails from early in the pandemic recently released under the Freedom of Information Act. Politicians and officials wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't measure the effect of their words, beyond merely their accuracy or consistency. And Dr. Fauci, director of U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases for the past 36 years, has at least been more wink-wink in this regard than many officials.

But the latest furor does underline one thing: what a colossal disaster for public understanding masks have been.

Until November, the official advice was the same that Dr. Fauci gave in a now infamous early email to a colleague -- a store-bought mask may somewhat reduce your chance of spreading the disease if you happen to be infected. It will do little to prevent you from catching it if you're breathing around someone who is exhaling the Covid virus.

Only in the fall did the U.S. government start claiming masks might protect the uninfected too. This appears to have been largely disinformation designed to get more unwitting carriers to wear masks. Even today, the CDC on its website stresses only one claim: "Masks are a simple barrier to help prevent your respiratory droplets from reaching others."

We should expect government advice to be manipulative. That's its job. We should also try to be time-consistent in our reasoning.

When Dr. Fauci emailed his advice to a colleague, the virus was not prevalent enough for precautions to be worthwhile. Do the math. Even at the height of the epidemic, if masks mainly stop spreaders from spreading, 300 million-plus Americans were being asked to wear masks to protect against perhaps 1% who might be infectious at any given moment. And this assumes all infected people were out and about when the real risk would have been mostly from the 0.4% who were infected but asymptomatic.

Universal mask compliance (and the U.S. came fairly close), by multiple models, might have slowed transmission by a modest 30%. Add it all up and we were calling on Americans school-age and up to wear masks to have a negligible impact on their own risk in most circumstances, for a disease that's flu-like in 85% of cases.

L

Leonard Feinman

People whose job it is to react to a crisis will do so, but that does not make their reactions correct. They are forced to take some stand, and right or wrong, that's what they will do. There are times when people should admit they don't have an answer, but there are some like Fauci who will always give you some explanation, even without knowing. The harm comes when he gives lousy advice, giving false hopes, or sending us looking in the wrong direction. Fauci is full of himself, and when the nation looked to him for answers, he "winged it," with any solution he thought might placate us, though he was guessing in the dark. He had no clue he could share, but that did not stop him. He would still be advising if we were still listening to him. He is finally under fire because now we know there was a connection between him and the Wuhan Lab, and his credibility is shot. He needs removal and possible prosecution.
E David Barkley
Fauci is latter day version of P.T. Barnum. There isn't a camera and microphone that he's not shy about touting his magic masks and expounding upon the veracity of the much-maligned Wuhan Labs.
Robert Burns
I've been told by husband & wife scientists that "Science is Science". It was meant to be like "Math is Math"? 2 + 2 = 4. But our new science is actually "Political Science" used to control neophytes and those who believe Government is "for the people" more and more. If 10 Scientists were asked about our Covid-19 issue, we could get 10 different "Scientific Opinions". Fauci was/is useless except for his mastery of being an aid for an agenda.

Scientists/Doctors have lost a lot of credibility in my book.

John Smith
Fauci is the poster child for an unaccomplished, entrenched, bureaucrat. He has lived his entire life in that cocoon.

No doubt he started his career with good intentions. However, at some point, he had to recognize that government agencies had become personal property of selfish bureaucrats interested only in feathering their own beds.

In contrast; Thomas Sowell recognized this early on at the Dept. of Labor. The rest is history, including the fact that these bureaucrats have worked tirelessly to keep that National Treasure a secret.

Thank you Dr. Sowell.

Scott Jokerst
I have been as frustrated as Holman Jenkins apparently has been regarding the conflicts between:

a.) the highly inaccurate and panic driving messaging from the media and politicians with extraordinary instincts to "control whatever", and

b) the actual, factually known empirically and experimentally understood information about the coronavirus, aerosolizable respiratory viruses in general, issues regarding actual infection routes and mechanisms, and the utter futility of using the masks, social distancing, and barriers the way ALL have been using them to "defeat" Covid-19 (or any other respiratory virus).

What has been widely more contagious and destructive than any of the current SARS-CoV-2 variants has been the fear, panic, and the destructive acceptance and enabling of as much social isolation, communication restriction, and relationship reduction that has been embraced by many GLOBALLY.

The physical chemistry facts are very simple. Very few actually have cared about that.

[Jun 23, 2021] Was Covid-19 spreading freely worldwide BEFORE last Christmas? The evidence keeps stacking up by Peter Andrews

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if COVID-19 started to spread worldwide before Christmas this is another argument that vaping pneumonia and COVID-19 are related and Fauci needs to be investigated.
If this was the same virus Fauci needs to be prosecuted for criminal negligence and his senior officials of the institutes fired.
The growing body of evidence suggests that COVID-19 started to spread in the USA close to the timeframe of fort Detrick incident
Notable quotes:
"... Scientists from UCLA have been analysing over 10 million hospital records from December 1, 2019 to February 29, 2020. Comparing that winter to previous ones, they noticed a 50-percent increase in 'coughing' as a symptom on admission forms. In addition, 18 more people than would ordinarily be expected were hospitalised with acute respiratory failure. ..."
"... This bombshell fits an emerging body of evidence on an earlier coronavirus timeline. Many people may remember the reports of a strange vaping-related illness that ravaged Americans towards the end of last year. There was a good deal of study on it. Scientists at first thought it was the oils in the e-cigs congealing in people's lungs, but soon debunked that hypothesis. In hindsight, it is difficult to look past Covid as the real culprit. Pneumonia-like symptoms, ordinarily fit people falling severely ill it was Covid all over. ..."
Sep 11, 2020 | www.rt.com

A new study from America indicates that people were falling ill with coronavirus-like symptoms in December 2019, but doctors at the time dismissed it as ordinary flu.

A team of doctors from Los Angeles scouring the hospital records from last winter has discovered a series of smoking gun clues which almost guarantee that Covid-19 was present in America well before Christmas.

Scientists from UCLA have been analysing over 10 million hospital records from December 1, 2019 to February 29, 2020. Comparing that winter to previous ones, they noticed a 50-percent increase in 'coughing' as a symptom on admission forms. In addition, 18 more people than would ordinarily be expected were hospitalised with acute respiratory failure.

In fact, the scientists estimate that there may have been 1,000 or more Covid sufferers in LA alone last winter – and presumably those are just the symptomatic minority. At the time, of course, all of this was put down to a moderately bad flu season. Officially , Covid did not turn up in LA until January 22, when a traveller in LAX airport fell ill. He was from Wuhan, and was identified as Covid-positive four days later.

This bombshell fits an emerging body of evidence on an earlier coronavirus timeline. Many people may remember the reports of a strange vaping-related illness that ravaged Americans towards the end of last year. There was a good deal of study on it. Scientists at first thought it was the oils in the e-cigs congealing in people's lungs, but soon debunked that hypothesis. In hindsight, it is difficult to look past Covid as the real culprit. Pneumonia-like symptoms, ordinarily fit people falling severely ill it was Covid all over.

Autopsy outrage

These revelations come hot on the heels of a very different story from England, which nonetheless points to the same conclusion. Peter Attwood died at the age of 84 on January 30, having been sick for over a month. But in recent weeks, an autopsy has confirmed that he died of Covid, which he probably was infected with in 2019. Underlining this, Attwood's daughter was sick with similar symptoms two weeks earlier still.

All of this happened in Kent, England. But according to the government there, the first Covid death in the UK did not happen until March. Now, Attwood's family want answers from the Chinese government on why they did not tell the WHO earlier about the coronavirus, which we know from leaked memos was identified in mid-November at the latest.

If coronavirus burned a track through the US and the UK towards the end of last year, is there any reason to suspect it wasn't doing the same everywhere else? In July, reports came in of coronavirus DNA being found in Spain, Italy and South America as long ago as the spring of 2019. How far back does this story go? We will probably never know.

Official statistics

Nor will we ever be able to track the precise journey of the novel coronavirus around the globe, despite being nearly certain of its origin in Wuhan. But when the inquiry is done, surely findings like these have to be taken seriously, and built into the retrospective model of the pandemic. And if the coronavirus was spreading freely in 2019, the questions are: What was the point in beginning lockdowns in March this year? Is it really credible that they could have made a blind bit of difference, coming as late as they did?

This whole mess demonstrates the problem with relying on official data and records, as they are bound to be incomplete and tardy, particularly at this stage. Despite such understandable failings in government information, people have an unfortunate habit of treating it like the gospel truth. This is absurd, and yet thinking of this quality seems to inform so much coronavirus policy.

Peter Andrews is an Irish science journalist and writer based in London. He has a background in the life sciences, and graduated from the University of Glasgow with a degree in genetics

azn_okay

The problem isn't that the information is tardy, it's that there was a concerted effort to place blame with the understanding that the very first impressions were critical in shaping the story later. The media landscape would be saturated so that future history would forget there were ever opposing voices.

Juan_More

IDK they were not looking for it so they did not find it. Now that they are looking for it they are finding it EVERYWHERE.

I do believe that it was in the wild before they say as they found it in old sewer water samples in Spain. Now if we can only get the politicians and public health officials to see reason.

I had some guy loose it because I was going against the arrows down an aisle in the Dollar store this week.

Starcraft

"At the time, of course, all of this was put down to a moderately bad flu season. "

That's the thing. It was like a "moderately bad flu" until governments decided to deem it a crisis in order to get rid of the rights of their own citizens.

SandythePole

Far from "being nearly certain of its origin in Wuhan ", there are lots of research findings concerning bat corona viruses. The University of North Carolina synthesised chimeras of such a virus in 2015 and this work continued at Fort Detrick before the latter was temporarily closed because of leakages. While the mainstream continue to assert the contrary, many believe this was a man-made virus, synthesised as part of a biowarfare program, possibly at one of the many hundreds of such laboratories around the world funded by the US military, such as the Lugar Centre, Tbilisi Georgia.

Bill Rice

This is a bigger story/truth than most people realize. This virus is extremely contagious. If a lot of people had it in December and January, they were spreading it to a lot of other people. It's not unreasonable to conclude that tens of millions of Americans had the virus by the time of the lock-downs. The virus horse was well out of the barn. Antibody tests didn't later pick-up some of these early cases because antibodies fade in 2 or three months in most people. By the time people who were sick in December and January got an antibody test in May or June, their antibodies were gone (in most cases, but not all cases). This also opens up the very real possibility that many of the recent "positive cases" could, in fact, be 2nd cases or cases of re-infection.

Ronnie62

My family got the virus but two kids didn't and they all live in the same home So take all this BS with a pinch of salt and enjoy life

Juan_More

Sure but stop looking at the numbers of positive tests and look at the mortality rate as a percentage of the population.

JoeyManoey

Fort Detrick and L4 labs Honolulu - Oct 2019.

Deejer

Who in the UK know people who displayed these symptoms in the last quarter of 2019 and yet it didn't quite seem to be the flu? The idea that the government got ahead of the curve is almost absurd.

GodBiteMe

Fort Detrick!

Enquirer

There is video on the net called 'Debunking the Narrative' in which Dave Cullen interviews Proff Dolores Cahil who is a leading experienced virologist who, for a period of time, was in charge of the Wuhan laboratory. Proff Cahil explains everything in great detail.

She says that a person with a strong immunity is not only unlikely to suffer any serious effects from catching this virus - but may not even notice that they have had it !

The only people who suffer serious effects are people with low immunity - but even they can often be treated so that real ... See more

SteveK99

Did the lockdown make any difference? It certainly did. It killed far more people then would've died otherwise.

AwareAussie

Look up Global Research (Canada) and Fabricating a Pandemic - Who Could Organize It and Why.

[Jun 20, 2021] University Of Florida Lab Finds Dangerous Pathogens On Children s Face Masks by Meiling Lee

Notable quotes:
"... Gainesville parents in Florida concerned about the harm caused to their children wearing face masks all day at school in 90 °F weather sent out six masks""five that were worn by children ages 6 to 11 for five to eight hours at school, and one worn by an adult""to be analyzed for contaminants at the University of Florida's Mass Spectrometry Research and Education Center. ..."
"... Five of the masks were found to be contaminated with parasites, fungi, and bacteria, according to Rational Ground . Only one mask was found to contain a virus that can cause a fatal systemic disease in cattle and deer. Other less harmful pathogens that can cause ulcers, acne, and strep throat were also detected. ..."
"... None of the controls were contaminated with pathogens, while "samples from the front top and bottom of the t-shirt found proteins that are commonly found in skin and hair, along with some commonly found in soil." ..."
"... The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says that kids should continue to wear masks and social distance until they are able to get vaccinated, despite data showing that children are minimally affected by COVID-19 and are not super-spreaders of the virus. ..."
Jun 19, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Meiling Lee via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours),

A laboratory at the University of Florida that recently analyzed a small sample of face masks, detected the presence of 11 dangerous pathogens that included bacterias that cause diphtheria, pneumonia, and meningitis.

A student wears a mask as he does his work at Freedom Preparatory Academy in Provo, Utah, on Feb. 10, 2021. (George Frey/Getty Images)

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Gainesville parents in Florida concerned about the harm caused to their children wearing face masks all day at school in 90 °F weather sent out six masks""five that were worn by children ages 6 to 11 for five to eight hours at school, and one worn by an adult""to be analyzed for contaminants at the University of Florida's Mass Spectrometry Research and Education Center.

Of the six masks, three were surgical, two cotton, and a poly gaiter. Masks that have not been worn and a t-shirt worn at school acted as the control samples.

Five of the masks were found to be contaminated with parasites, fungi, and bacteria, according to Rational Ground . Only one mask was found to contain a virus that can cause a fatal systemic disease in cattle and deer. Other less harmful pathogens that can cause ulcers, acne, and strep throat were also detected.

None of the controls were contaminated with pathogens, while "samples from the front top and bottom of the t-shirt found proteins that are commonly found in skin and hair, along with some commonly found in soil."

Amanda Donoho, a mother of three elementary school children, teamed up with other parents to send the masks to the lab because her sons broke out in rashes from prolonged mask-wearing.

"Our kids have been in masks all day, seven hours a day in school ," Donoho told Fox & Friends on June 17. " The only break that they get is to eat or drink. "

Donoho said that while students do not have to wear a mask outside at school since April 2021, masks were still required when they were within six to eight feet of each other. Masks must also be worn on school buses.

Further research is needed to better understand what is being put on children's faces, says Donoho.

Superintendent Carlee Simon at the Alachua County Public Schools (ACPS) in Gainesville, Fla. did not respond to a request for comment.

The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says that kids should continue to wear masks and social distance until they are able to get vaccinated, despite data showing that children are minimally affected by COVID-19 and are not super-spreaders of the virus.

Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, signed an executive order on May 3, suspending all COVID-19 emergency restrictions, including mask-wearing. However, certain school districts like ACPS kept their mask policy in place for the remainder of the school year, while masks were optional within the community.

ACPS says masks will be optional for the 2021""22 school year but would continue to be required on school buses until mid-September unless the federal transportation regulation changes.

The CDC says masks are still required on planes, trains, buses, and at airports.

In an updated June 17 guidance , masks are no longer required in "outdoor areas of a conveyance (like a ferry or the top deck of a bus)" and fully vaccinated individuals may resume everyday activities that were done prior to the pandemic without mask-wearing or physically distancing unless required by federal or state law.

People are considered fully vaccinated two weeks after their second shot of a messenger RNA vaccine or after a single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

The CDC did not give guidance for people who've recovered from COVID-19 and have natural immunity.

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[Jun 12, 2021] Email Shows Researcher Who Funded Wuhan Lab, Admits Manipulating Coronaviruses, Thanked Fauci For Dismissing Lab-Leak Theory by Steve Watson

Money quote: " There's no way every nation on earth adopts the exact same stupid strategy to fight it unless they were told it was man-made and potentially extremely dangerous."
Jun 02, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News,

Dr Fauci's emails have been released via a Freedom of Information Act request , and there is some pretty interesting stuff in them, particularly one email where a researcher who funded the Wuhan Institute of Virology thanks Fauci for publicly dismissing the lab leak theory early on during the pandemic.

... ... ...

The email states:

"As the Pl of the ROl grant publicly targeted by Fox News reporters at the Presidential press briefing last night, I just wanted to say a personal thank you on behalf of our staff and collaborators, for publicly standing up and stating that the scientific evidence supports a natural origin for COVID-19 from a bat-to-human spillover, not a lab release from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

From my perspective, your comments are brave, and coming from your trusted voice, will help dispel the myths being spun around the virus' origins . Once this pandemic's over I look forward thanking you in person and let you know how important your comments are to us all."

Fauci responded to the email the day after, writing

"Peter:

Many thanks for your kind note.

Best Regards,

Tony"

Daszak, who also works for the World Health Organisation, is on record admitting that he was involved with manipulating coronaviruses. Here is a video of him talking in DECEMBER 2019 about how 'good' the viruses are for messing around with in a lab:

TWiV 615- Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance - YouTube

Daszak notes that "coronaviruses are pretty good you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily the spiked proteins drive a lot about what happens. You can get the sequence you can build the protein, we work with Ralph Baric at UNC to do this, insert into the backbone of another virus and do some work in a lab."


AUS-AUD 8 hours ago

It's simply because it was an American that is responsible for covid, what's worse a government agency. Not China.

vova_3.2018 7 hours ago (Edited)

It's simply because it was an American that is responsible for covid, what's worse a government agency. Not China.

There's no need to dismiss the lab leak theory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, just consult the research papers released by those working at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill .

NIH (Fauci) may well be worried about the possibility of prosectution for allowing the continuation of chimeric research even after it was prohibited.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjv8yTkpkh4

The research cited in Nature from 2015 is bad enough, since it directly states the researchers created an experimental virus with the spike protien by combining two different ones:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4797993/

"...we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronovirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone."

AUS-AUD 6 hours ago (Edited)

In June of 2019 a nursing home in Springfield was the first to report a mysterious respiratory condition. In July ft detrick biological lab was closed due to a leak. Both events were widely reported. That pre-dates wuhan, the military Olympic games held in wuhan and event 201 held in October 2019.

While I understand that there is a possibility of a leak from wuhan, I doubt it. There's too much material evidence implicating Fauci et al. Whom is a long standing US government employee.

The wuhan lab studies of gain of function was also funded with US Gov grant monies. Moved from the US.

Nonetheless ground zero was in June of 2019 from Ft Detrick lab. It was likely US military who brought it, perhaps unknowingly, to wuhan when attending the military games?

Regardless, this has US government officials print's all over it. If it was a genuine mistake then fauci and friends need to be held accountable for it.

tion PREMIUM 6 hours ago

https://jvi.asm.org/content/jvi/82/4/1899.full.pdf

A group of SARS-like CoVs (SL-CoVs) has been identified in horseshoe bats. SL-CoVs and SARS-CoVs share identical genome organizations and high sequence identities, with the main exception of the N terminus of the spike protein (S), known to be responsible for receptor binding in CoVs. In this study, we investigated the receptor usage of the SL-CoV S by combining a human immunodeficiency virus-based pseudovirus system with cell lines expressing the ACE2 molecules of human, civet, or horseshoe bat. In addition to full-length S of SL-CoV and SARS-CoV, a series of S chimeras was constructed by inserting different sequences of the SARS-CoV S into the SL-CoV S backbone. Several important observations were made from this study. First, the SL-CoV S was unable to use any of the three ACE2 molecules as its receptor. Second, the SARS-CoV S failed to enter cells expressing the bat ACE2. Third, the chimeric S covering the previously defined receptor-binding domain gained its ability to enter cells via human ACE2, albeit with different efficiencies for different constructs. Fourth, a minimal insert region (amino acids 310 to 518 [of HIV/BJ01-S]) was found to be sufficient to convert the SL-CoV S from non-ACE2 binding to human ACE2 binding , indicating that the SL-CoV S is largely compatible with SARS-CoV S protein both in structure and in function.

Journal of Virology, February 2008

Sergio1 2 hours ago remove link

And there I was thinking that the holier than thou US government had signed an agreement on a moratorium on the advancement of biological weapons. Side door those studies into vaccine development for potential mutations; for your safety, of course.

Birdbob 10 hours ago

People will be held accountable on the day after doomsday:

http://leesbillbob.blogspot.com/2021/05/nih-saint.html

Let's start with these guys

Lorenz Feedback 10 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Brit. Government is preparing to halt the coroner's court inquest into allegations that Novichok caused the death of Dawn Sturgess in Salisbury on July 8, 2018.

After replacing the Salisbury coroner in January of this year, and after a single hearing on March 30 by secret service advisor and ex-judge Baroness Heather Hallett, briefings by the Cabinet Office and the security services have led to the decision that the only way of preserving the government's narrative of a Russian nerve agent attack, first against Sergei and Yulia Skripal, then against Sturgess, is to introduce Defence Ministry and MI6 evidence in secret session.

Don't hold you breath for any improvements!!!
(- see Craig Murray for details - if he's not in jail by then).

No cover up in the works there then!

HungryPorkChop 10 hours ago

A large and well funded CoronaVirus Pandemic War Game happened 6 months before the outbreak. Coincidence? Watch the first 5 or 10 minutes of this movie (PlanDemic - Indoctrination) and see for yourself.

https://youtu.be/CUmEOIE_H9s

meraxes PREMIUM 12 hours ago

The overnight SOFR rates spiked (read:collapsed) in Sept 2019. THAT was the end of the road. They printed overnight, papered over everything, but that was their signal the system had broken. Then I got what had to be COVID in mid-Nov. Then the news really hit in Dec 2019. I don't believe in coincidences any

NickelthroweR 12 hours ago

It was the September collapse that caused me to immediately hire a real estate agent to look for a home in a very rural area. I knew it was a race against time so I bought a home sight unseen. No joke, I saw that collapse and knew that everrything was on the table - famine, plague, nuclear war, military takeover - anything.

I arrived at my new home two weeks before the lockdowns began and settled in a place where mask mandates and social distancing were 99% ignored.

In September of 2019 I began telling anyone that would give me their ear that the iceberg had been struck and that they needed to get on the lifeboats as we were now in a global game of musical chairs and, though they didn't know it, the music had stopped. Because most people are financially illiterate, I could not get them to understand the significance of what was happening.

Now, when I try to warn them about the dangers of the "vaccine", that message, too, falls on deaf ears.

WuhanJohnny 10 hours ago remove link

95% won't get it, chalk it up to normalcy bias.

Their is a small, intelligent group of critical thinkers who hear you.

Most of them saw what you saw and have been making similar moves.

GreatCaesar'sGhost 12 hours ago

Obviously this was a manufactured virus. There's no way every nation on earth adopts the exact same stupid strategy to fight it unless they were told it was man-made and potentially extremely dangerous. But we'll never know the truth. Put it up there with the JFK murder, Roswell and Obama's homosexuality as things you'll never get official confirmation about.

Not Your Father's ZH 12 hours ago

For sure, the narrative was coordinated globally. The bigger the lie, the more widespread the effect of convincing mass compliance.

JimmyJones 10 hours ago (Edited)

I am way more comfortable being one of the ones who didn't. Since we now KNOW that Vitamin D + C + Zinc + Quercetin and or Ivermectin are basically a insanely great virus killer combo.

Rehypothecation 12 hours ago

I'm surprised no one mention Bill Gates who coincidentally funded a coronavirus pandemic simulation in 2019 and is now the biggest farmland owner in the US.

Not Your Father's ZH 12 hours ago (Edited)

And has access to the Svalbard seed vault.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=svalbard+seed+georgia+guidestones&t=hd&va=u&ia=web

Socratic Dog 4 hours ago

Just a coincidence.

You know, like the fires in Iran today.

JOHNLGALT. 12 hours ago remove link

Dr. Peter Daszak to GITMO along with FAUCI. NOW.

Get the TRIALS STARTED.

The Nuremberg Code 1947 Permissible Medical Experiments

The great weight of the evidence before us to effect that certain types of medical experiments on human beings, when kept within reasonably well-defined bounds, conform to the ethics of the medical profession generally. The protagonists of the practice of human experimentation justify their views on the basis that such experiments yield results for the good of society that are unprocurable by other methods or means of study. All agree, however, that certain basic principles must be observed in order to satisfy moral, ethical and legal concepts:

1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment ; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment.

2. The duty and responsibility for ascertaining the quality of the consent rests upon each individual who initiates, directs, or engages in the experiment . It is a personal duty and responsibility which may not be delegated to another with impunity.

3. The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.

4. The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation and a knowledge of the natural history of the disease or other problem under study that the anticipated results justify the performance of the experiment.

5. The e xperiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.

6. No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.

7. The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.

8. Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability or death.

9. The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.

10. During the course of the experiment the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.

11. During the course of the experiment the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgment required of him, that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.

GALT.

[Jun 12, 2021] CDC advisers to review heart inflammation link to mRNA COVID jabs - Business and Economy News - Al Jazeera

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U.S. public health advisers will meet to discuss a potential link between Covid-19 shots that use messenger RNA technology and heart inflammation after hundreds of vaccinated people experienced a condition called myocarditis.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices will gather on June 18 to discuss an increase in reported cases of the condition, particularly among adolescents and young adults. Covid vaccines made by Moderna Inc. and partners Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE's use mRNA technology.

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Since April, the CDC has seen a spike in reports of myocarditis along with pericarditis, an inflammation of the membrane around the heart. The cases, while rare, have occurred mostly in male teens and young adults.

The CDC has identified a total of 216 cases of heart inflammation after the first dose of an mRNA shot, and another 573 cases after the second dose. The median age of people with myocarditis or pericarditis following the first dose was 30, and 24 among the second-dose cases. There were 475 cases identified among those under the age of 30.

Most patients have responded well to treatment and rest, according to the agency, and more than 8 in 10 have had full relief from their symptoms. The agency is further examining the cases by age.

About 130 million Americans have received the full two-dose regimen of one of the two authorized mRNA vaccines. Many teenagers have now received their first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, which was cleared for adolescents 12 and older on May 10.


"We're still learning about the rates of myocarditis and pericarditis," Tom Shimabukuro, a safety expert of CDC's National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases, said Thursday in a Food and Drug Administration panel meeting. "As we gather more information we'll begin to get a better idea of the post-vaccination rates and hopefully be able to get more detailed information by age group."

Shimabukuro said the U.S. data is consistent with findings from Israel's vaccinated population.

"It's hard to deny that there's some event that seems to be occurring," said Cody Meissner, head of the Pediatric Infectious Disease Division at Tufts Medical Center, at the FDA's advisory committee meeting on Thursday.

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[Jun 12, 2021] CDC To Hold -Emergency Meeting- After 100s Suffer Heart Inflammation Following COVID Vaccines

Emergency meeting in eight more days.. ??? An emergency meeting would be something held tonight; an emergency meeting that can wait days needs to call it differently --"out of schedule meeting" or something like that.
What happens when you have inflammation and damage? You get scar tissue. Do you really think that this doesn't have lasting effect? These guys will have problems ater in life with their hearts and it won't because of McDonalds....
Jun 10, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Thursday that it will convene an "emergency meeting" of its advisers on June 18th to discuss rare but higher-than-expected reports of heart inflammation following doses of the mRNA-based Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines.

The new details about myocarditis and pericarditis emerged first in presentations to a panel of independent advisers for the Food and Drug Administration, who are meeting Thursday to discuss how the regulator should approach emergency use authorization for using COVID-19 vaccines in younger children.

As CBS reports, the CDC previously disclosed that reports of heart inflammation were detected mostly in younger men and teenage boys following their second dose, and that there was a "higher number of observed than expected" cases in 16- to 24-year-olds. Last month, the CDC urged providers to "ask about prior COVID-19 vaccination" in patients with symptoms of heart inflammation.

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Does anyone else not find it odd that after discovering 800 cases in the VAERS database the "emergency" meeting is in 7 days ? ... and in the meantime, every public health authority figure is encouraging parents to get their young children vaccinated ?

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As The Epoch Times' Zachary Stieber detailed earlier , Federal authorities have received over 800 reports of heart inflammation in people who received a COVID-19 vaccine, a health official said Thursday.

The reports of myocarditis or pericarditis were submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, a passive reporting system run jointly by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration, through May 31.

The bulk of the reports described heart inflammation appearing after the second of two doses of either the Pfizer of Moderna vaccines, both of which utilize messenger RNA technology.

Authorities stress that anybody can submit reports through the reporting system but authorities have already verified that 226 of the reports meet the CDC's working case definition, Dr. Tom Shimabukuro, a deputy director at the agency, said during a presentation of the data. Followup and review are in progress for the rest.

Of the 285 case reports for which the disposition was known at the time of the review, 270 patients had been discharged and 15 were still hospitalized, officials said. Myocarditis typically requires hospital care. No deaths were reported.

A slide on myocarditis reports post-COVID-19 vaccination is shown during the Food and Drug Administration's Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee meeting on June 10, 2021. (FDA/Screenshot via The Epoch Times)

The CDC announced last month that it was investigating reports of heart inflammation in teenagers and young adults who received a COVID-19 vaccine, though it took no definitive action besides saying it would continue reviewing case data.

An advisory committee to the agency, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, said in a little-noticed update published dated May 24 and published on June 1 that data from VAERS showed that in the 30 days following the second dose of mRNA vaccinations, "there was a higher number of observed than expected myocarditis/pericarditis cases in 16""24-year-olds."

Data from the Vaccine Safety Datalink, an active reporting system that relies on nine healthcare organizations in seven states, did not show higher than expected cases, it added.

"However, analyses suggest that these data need to be carefully followed as more persons in younger age groups are vaccinated," the advisory committee's vaccine safety workgroup said in its report.

Israel's Health Ministry said that same day that it found 275 cases of heart inflammation among the more than 5 million people in the country who received a vaccine between December 2020 and May. An Israeli study found "a probable link" between receiving the second dose of the Pfizer jab "and the appearance of myocarditis among men aged 16 to 30," the ministry said.

Shimabukuro said the U.S. passive surveillance data "are consistent with the surveillance data that emerged from Israel."

The figures are also consistent with other case reports and data from the Department of Defense.

The vast majority of the U.S. reports deal with male patients. Approximately 300 preliminary reports indicated the patients suffered chest pain, with nearly as many having elevated cardiac enzymes.

Family members watch as a 12-year-old is inoculated with Pfizer's vaccine against COVID-19 at Dekalb Pediatric Center in Decatur, Ga., on May 11, 2021. (Chris Aluka Berry/Reuters)

A case report examining myocarditis in seven adolescents following vaccination with Pfizer's jab, published in Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics, this month, said all seven developed the inflammation within 4 days of receiving the second dose, did not have evidence of COVID-19 infection, and did not meet the criteria for MIS-C, a rare disease.

The seven males, between the ages of 14 and 19, all required hospital care but each was eventually discharged.

Authors, who did not respond to requests for comment, said no link has been established between the vaccines and myocarditis and that the benefits of the vaccines outweigh the risks. But they also urged healthcare workers "to consider myocarditis in the evaluation of adolescents and young adults who develop chest pain after COVID-19 vaccination."

A commentary on the study published in the same journal, said "there are some concerns regarding this case series that might suggest a causal relationship and therefore warrant further analysis through established surveillance systems."

"First, the consistent timing of symptoms in these seven cases after the second vaccination suggests a uniform biological process. Second, the similarities in clinical findings and laboratory characteristics in this series suggest a common etiology. Finally, these cases occurred in the context of a dearth of circulation of common respiratory viruses known to be associated with myocarditis, and thorough diagnostic evaluations did not identify infectious etiologies," they added.

The expected number of myocarditis/pericarditis cases in those aged 16 or 17, based on background incidence rates and the number of doses administered to that population through May 31, is between two and 19. But based on the VAERS reports, the number is 79.

Likewise, the expected number for cases among young adults between the ages of 18 and 24 is eight to 83. The number based on the reports is 196.

"In the 16- to 17 year-olds and the 18- to 24-year-olds, the observed reports are exceeding the expected based on the known background rates that are published in literature," Shimabukuro told members of a Food and Drug Administration vaccine advisory committee in the meeting on Thursday, though he cautioned that not all the reports will "turn out to be true myocarditis/pericarditis reports."

" Of note, of these 528 reports after second dose with symptom onset within 30 days, over half of them were in these younger age groups, 12""24 years old , whereas roughly 9 percent of total doses administered were in those age groups, so we "clearly have an imbalance there," he added later.

A slide on myocarditis reports post-COVID-19 vaccination is shown during the Food and Drug Administration's Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee meeting on June 10, 2021. (FDA/Screenshot via The Epoch Times)

Data from the Vaccine Safety Datalink, which comes from nine healthcare groups that have collectively administered over 8.8 million doses""only some 284,000 of those have been given to 12- to 17-year-olds""did not indicate safety concerns, with just 60 myocarditis or pericarditis events reported through May 29, the doctor continued.

A Food and Drug Administration surveillance system, the Biologics Effectiveness and Safety Initiative, which utilizes claims data from CVS and two other partners, has detected 99 cases of myocarditis/pericarditis in the 42 days following vaccination among some 3.1 million shots given to people between the ages of 12 and 64, the panel was told earlier by an official from the drug regulating agency.

Another 1,260 were reported in people 65 or older through claims data from Medicare claims data.

Neither number raised safety signals, Steve Anderson, director of the FDA's Office of Biostatistics and Epidemiology said.

Dr. Cody Meissner, chief of the Division of Pediatric Infectious Disease at the Tufts Children's Hospital, and a member of the panel that heard from Shimabukuro and others, said after the presentations that he was "struck by the fact" that myocarditis "occurs more commonly after the second dose."

"It's a pretty specific interval of time, it's primarily after the mRNA vaccines as far as we know, we know that the consistent age, there's a lack of alternative explanations even though these patients have been pretty well worked up, and it's a widespread occurrence because, as you said, Israel has found a pretty similar situation," he said during the meeting.

He asked Shimabukuro about the rates of blood clots seen in women between the ages of 30 and 49 after vaccination""most of the clots appeared in that population after getting a Johnson & Johnson shot, though officials ultimately lifted a pause, saying the benefits outweighed the risks ""and to restate the rate of incidence of myocarditis in adolescents after a jab.

Shimabukuro said that in contrast with the clotting situation, when data showed "strong evidence of a causal relationship fairly early on," further study is needed on heart inflammation.

"At this point, I think we're still learning about the rates of myocarditis and pericarditis. We continue to collect more information both in VAERS and continue to get more information in VSD, and I think as gather more information we'll begin to get a better idea of the post-vaccination rates and hopefully will be able to get more detailed information by age group," he said.

"It's still early," he added, noting that authorization for a vaccine for 12- to -15-year-olds didn't come until mid-May while immunization of older adolescents largely came later than shots for adults.

"I believe that we will ultimately have sufficient information to answer those questions," he said.

A general view of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) headquarters in Atlanta, Ga., on Sept. 30, 2014. (Tami Chappell/Reuters)

Another panel member, Dr. Jay Portnoy, director of the Division of Allergy, Asthma, & Immunology at Children's Mercy Hospitals & Clinics, asked for a comparison between the adverse events in vaccinated versus unvaccinated persons, saying if the adverse event rate was lower in those who are vaccinated, then it would still be worth getting a jab.

Shimabukuro said a risk-benefit assessment would be provided by the CDC's advisory panel, known as ACIP, on vaccines during a meeting next week.

A CDC spokeswoman also referenced the upcoming meeting, which will take place on June 18, after saying reports of myocarditis remain rare, given that over 300 million doses have been administered in the United States.

"Given the number of COVID-19 vaccine doses administered, these reports are rare. More than 18 million people between ages 12-24 have received at least one dose of COVID-19 vaccine in the United States," she told The Epoch Times via email.

"CDC continues to recommend COVID-19 vaccination for everyone 12 years and older. Getting vaccinated is the best way to help protect yourself and your family from COVID-19."

A Pfizer spokesperson told The Epoch Times in an email that the company is aware of federal data indicating "rare reports of myocarditis and pericarditis, predominantly in male adolescents and young adults, after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination." It noted that federal officials have not concluded that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines cause either condition, before expressing support for an assessment of suspected adverse events.

"With a vast number of people vaccinated to date, the benefit risk profile of our vaccine remains positive," the spokesperson added.

Moderna did not return an inquiry.

Dr. Monica Gandhi, professor of medicine and associate chief at the University of California, San Francisco, told The Epoch Times in an email that in light of the increased risk of myocarditis above expected rates among young people, especially after the second dose, parents should keep a close eye out for when guidance is issued by federal authorities.

"Possibilities include only vaccinating children without prior infection as there is an association between prior COVID and this adverse effect; giving 1 dose instead of 2 below the age of 20; addressing the dosage of the vaccine (currently at 30 micrograms down to the age of 12, which is the same dose as in adults); and extending the duration between doses 1 and 2 for younger people," she said.

"I look forward to ACIP guidance on this over the next few weeks."


BugMan 13 minutes ago

"The infamous spike protein of the coronavirus gets into the blood where it circulates for several days post-vaccination and then accumulated in organs and tissues including the spleen, bone marrow, the liver, adrenal glands, and in quite high concentrations in the ovaries"; "a large number of studies has shown that the most severe effects of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, such as blood clotting and bleeding, are due to the effects of the spike protein of the virus itself."

Top Immunologist and "˜Pro-Vaccine' Doctor Byram Bidle Issues Warning"¦ "" CITIZEN FREE PRESS

GregBurton 3 minutes ago

I don't see how the CDC, Fauci, Wuhan (CCP), Fort Detrick, Ralph Baric, Peter Daszak and the WHO are going to get out of this: the 'vaccine' mRNA spike protein is toxic, it is a pathogenic protein that causes clotting, heart problems and may be associated with infertility...

bringonthebigone 1 hour ago

The heart has almost no repair capability. Even mild damage at that age likely takes years or decades off life expectancy. Seems likely the number of undiscovered cases far far exceed the number reported.

I Write Code 1 hour ago

"Possibilities include only vaccinating children without prior infection as there is an association between prior COVID and this adverse effect; giving 1 dose instead of 2 below the age of 20; addressing the dosage of the vaccine (currently at 30 micrograms down to the age of 12, which is the same dose as in adults); and extending the duration between doses 1 and 2 for younger people," she said

No kidding Doctor Obvious.

BUT extending the duration is probably the wrong move, or if you do, cut the second dose by 90%.

Hear me now, believe me later.

MRob 5 minutes ago remove link

Watching latest Brett Weinstein interview, Dark Horse, guest claimed the numbers of complications from the vaccine could be anything up to 100x the official figures. Unlikely, but emphasises that the error bar is massive. Above reporting system is voluntary, and people have been censored from knowing what to even look for, and propagandised from considering their issues could be due to the vaccine. Vaccine complication groups of fb were deleted, with 70k or 120k people in them. Such a screwed up situation. With the suppression of ivermectin etc, this is nuremberg trials level for sure.

https://ivmmeta.com spread the word

GreatUncle 23 minutes ago

The problem is 2 part.

1. The vaccine is not tailored to the individual and therefore never 100% safe it is not possible when working with statistics and probability as your guide.

2. The reporting system is next to non-existent even under vaers because that is the measure of liability for those making people take gene therapies / vaccines.

Therein lies your two fundamental problems ... too fix it though you have too destroy the whole system it should never have been put in place that way.

hoytmonger 36 minutes ago

In Idaho, the Idaho National Guard is "assisting" vaccination of students at their middle school...

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/06/gary-d-barnett/public-political-school-madness-military-supported-vaccination-of-students-in-idaho/

Fat Beaver 54 minutes ago (Edited)

So the commenter on here, vasilievich mentioned he and his wife got the vax and his wife went into cardiac arrest shortly after (4 days ago)...they are in their 80's...(God help them)...several others have noted they knew people that went into cardiac arrest after the vax...seems to be much, much more common than they are letting on...

Seabass120 36 minutes ago

My wife got her second Pfizer vacc and now cannot go into the sun without breaking out into hives. Prior to the jab, she was outside daily.

JoKe Biden 27 minutes ago

Yep so predictable, some of the statements will read something like this.

  • The FDA and CDC have confidence that the vaccine is safe and effective in preventing COVID-19.
  • The FDA has determined that the available data show that the vaccine's known and potential benefits outweigh its known and potential risks in individuals 18 years of age and older.
  • At this time, the available data suggest that the chance of heart inflammation occurring is very low, but the FDA and CDC will remain vigilant in continuing to investigate this risk.
_Rorschach 25 minutes ago

its not a vaccine

its gene therapy

ebworthen 38 minutes ago

An untested genetic experiment and not a "vaccine" in any sense of the word.

toady 19 minutes ago

"Just say no"

-Nancy Reagan

RawDrum 20 minutes ago

Imagine being a parent who got their teenage child injected with an experiment jab for something they are at trivial risk of any impact from, that has no-one liable should it go wrong, in an American for profit health insurance system, doing zero research and outsourcing critical thinking to media, big tech and pharma corporations engaged in obvious censorship and obfuscation, and that resulted in your child having an enlarged heart impacting the rest of their shortened life.

YOLO!

LetThemEatRand 1 hour ago

"The chances of dying from COVID for the young are almost impossible to measure they are so small" - doesn't matter. Any risk is too much. You must wear a mask and stay home and be vaccinated when we're ready for that.

"The chances of dying from the COVID vaccine are unknown and documented cases of serious side effects are growing." - it's a tiny risk, doesn't outweigh the benefit of the vaccine.

RedSeaPedestrian 43 minutes ago

From Pfizer: "With a vast number of people vaccinated to date, the benefit risk profile of our vaccine remains positive," the spokesperson added.

Tell that to the families that have had a loved one die from the "jab".

Farmer Dave 24 minutes ago

My dad has been fighting this for a month. He got the jab and ended up in the hospital with blood clots and the heart inflammation. He is a tough old man and seems to be getting better. I told him if he would have heeded my warnings about the jab he wouldn't be sick. Anyone who gives this jab to a child is an idiot.

fackbankz 44 minutes ago (Edited)

If any other product killed 5000 people and injured 200,000, it would be pulled, not pushed.

There is no such thing as "mild" myocarditis, especially in juveniles. If they live, they will have a lifetime of heart problems and will likely never be able to enjoy fun activities like sports or sex. I'm only saying this to inoculate you against the incoming PR blitz of, "Oh, it's just a few mild cases of heart inflammation."

We must avenge this crime against humanity. My hope is that it is done through courts and due process, but if ends up just being heads on pikes, so be it.

Dr. Gonzo 47 minutes ago

Biden is giving away 500,000 of these serums to our lucky Vassals. Eh hem. I mean Allies. For a special thank you from the Empire.

nowhereman 19 minutes ago remove link

After asking yourself a couple more questions like that, and you begin to understand that it's never been about a "virus" it's about the jab.

hoytmonger 16 minutes ago (Edited)

There's an article to that effect...

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/06/joseph-mercola/was-the-whole-pandemic-about-the-vaccine/

absalom_hicks 41 minutes ago remove link

"Population decimated by rare blood clots", "Extremely rare side effects devastate many", "Benefits far outweigh risks as die off causes labor shortages", "Scientists explain how lab created viruses evolve naturally", "New variants cause only mild symptoms in vaccinated travelers", "Annual vaccination necessary for return to new normal, CEO of CALPERS says."

Headlines in a mentally ill society.

TieOneOn 47 minutes ago

Looks like 'Gain of Function' is full steam ahead......

Befits 10 minutes ago (Edited) remove link

They are not panicked. They will do a farce meeting and declare " the benefits of the Covid 19 vax outweigh the risks". Even for the young men who " in very small number of cases where there is no clear causal link between the Covid vax and myocarditis". Then when the microphone is off and the transcription is ended they will laugh their asses off " these fools will buy it 🤣🤣🤣🤣 ". Cha Ching...

boyplunger7777 10 minutes ago

By late summer, should the general public begin to experience serious side effects, the nation will go into full blown panic...

You_Cant_Quit_Me 9 minutes ago

They'll just say it's a variant of COVID-19 and blame that

Cabreado 38 minutes ago (Edited)

The CDC has been sufficiently exposed, and they're trying to save face with the masses.

Good luck finding any non-corrupt oversight to resolve this situation... that of a rogue CDC.
Otherwise it would've happened a long, long time ago.

Rubicon727 1 hour ago

What the CDC refuses to admit is the EU system, that keeps far more accurate deaths, severe illnesses can be looked at any time of the day. Link to EUdraVigilance.com . They've shown many examples of severe repercussions from the different kinds of Covid vaccines that have harmed, or killed people for weeks now.

Now you tell us, how is it this is just NOW emerging from the CDC? Explain that.

Lt. Shicekopf 4 minutes ago

Why are kids getting jabbed? In the off chance they contract this virus there is a 99.8% chance of recovery. I just do not get it.

AriusArmenian 3 minutes ago

Money.

allfactsmatter 21 minutes ago

The mrNA technology is a new technique for vaccine development.

Despite this, the Pfizer and Modern "vaccines" have been tested LESS than traditional vaccines. Yet the FDA and CDC says the risks from these shots are acceptable.

Keep in mind that healthy young men have almost NO mortality risk from COVID, and receive no benefit from these shots as a direct consequence.

Big Government and Big Pharma are gambling with people's lives with these Frankenvirus vaccines.

liberty2 27 minutes ago

Not a vaccine, they label it as a vaccine to have immunity to lawsuits, no pun intended. They also call it a vaccine to get emergency authorization. It's not APPROVED, only authorized, there's a difference. There's NO law mandating the vax, NONE. Your employer can be sued for discrimination or you can claim Workman's Comp if you should suffer side effects.

Danoc 29 minutes ago

Can't wait for Fauci's next round of explanation.

opaopaopa 26 minutes ago

all rounds are the same:

"it's the Science"

fackbankz 10 minutes ago

"A few minor cases of heart inflammation, nothing to worry about. Benefits outweigh the risks."

You know the drill.

Any other product that caused 800 cases of lifelong heart problems in young people would have been pulled, not pushed, and it's probably a lot more than 800.

TonTon 58 minutes ago

Looks like they are hardly even checking for Myocarditis in the 50+ age bracket and especially in the 65+ age bracket given it's less than the normal rate for this age group. I'm sure they are just putting it down to some of the many coincidences happening after people get the 'jab.' Given that the rate is less than normal though you could be forgiven for thinking that they are ACTIVELY SUPPRESSING information on side effects. We are experiencing and epidemic of coincidences these days.

[Jun 09, 2021] 205 pages of grift.

Jun 09, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com


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WillyGroper 7 hours ago

dr. david martin has done yeoman's work exposing fraudci.

even the playbook is the same as the dustbowl crash.

forward to 56min in.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/bkM5fHwacLMm/

205 pages of grift.

https://www.davidmartin.world/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/The_Fauci_COVID-19_Dossier.pdf

fraudci is going to fry.

truth or go home 4 hours ago

That second document is unbelievably well done.

I doubt it does anything to Fauci though - he is not the center of this activity, only the mouthpiece.

[Jun 09, 2021] Dr. Anthony Fauci's 15 Totally Wrong Predictions and Contradictions - 710 WOR - Mark Simone

Jun 09, 2021 | 710wor.iheart.com

Dr. Anthony Fauci's 15 Totally Wrong Predictions and Contradictions


By Mark Simone May 12, 2020
It's hard to believe but America's top Infectious Disease Doctor Anthony Fauci has been wrong on the coronavirus pandemic -- Every step of the way!

Here is a list of several errors, contradictory statements and dangerous gaffes by NIAID Director Dr. Tony Fauci:

1.) Dr. Fauci says he warned Trump in January that the US was in real trouble but that is not what he said publicly.

In January Dr. Anthony Fauci told Newsmax TV that the United States " did not have to worry" about the coronavirus and that it was "not a major threat."

2.) Dr. Fauci warned of an apocalyptic coronavirus pandemic -- then just weeks later he compared the coronavirus to a bad flu .

3.) Dr. Fauci based all of his predictions on models the that were OFF BY MILLIONS and then later told reporters, "You can't really rely on models."

4.) On March 20th Dr. Fauci jumped in and during a press briefing on hydroxychloroquine treatment for coronavirus "corrected" the president saying, "You got to be careful when you say 'fairly effective.' It was never done in a clinical trial It was given to individuals and felt that maybe it worked."

Exactly two weeks later hydroxychloroquine was deemed the most highly rated treatment for the novel coronavirus in an international poll of more than 6,000 doctors.

5.) Dr. Fauci pushed these garbage models every step of the way.

A month ago Dr. Fauci claimed 1 million to 2 million Americans would die from coronavirus. Then he said 100,000 to 200,000 Americans will die from the virus. Three weeks ago he agreed 81,766 Americans would die from the coronavirus. Then by that Wednesday Then by that Wednesday the experts cut the number of deaths to 60,415 projected deaths. to 60,415 projected deaths.

6.) On Easter Dr. Fauci suggested President Trump. should have shut down the economy in February When the number of known cases in the US was around 100. Fauci later walked back his attacks.

7.) Dr. Fauci said cruises were OK on March 9th. That was a huge error.

8.) Dr. Fauci said malls, movies and gyms were OK on February 29th . That was another huge mistake.

9.) Dr. Fauci was wrong about the first coronavirus deaths in the country. Dr. Fauci, Dr. Birx and the CDC were off by nearly a month. California officials revealed in April that a patient in Santa Clara died from coronavirus on February 6th not February 29th .

10.) Dr. Fauci and the CDC missed themillions and millions of US citizens who had already contracted the coronavirus before the draconian lockdowns took place. Knowing this could have prevented the economic calamity.

11.) On April 15, 2020 , Fauci endorses Tinder hookups , unbelievably.

12.) Dr. Fauci relied on corrupt W.H.O rules to lock down the United States and destroy the US economy. Meanwhile, this delays the herd immunity that is needed to prevent a future outbreak of this deadly virus.

13.) Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx used the Imperial College Model to persuade President Trump to lock down the entire US economy. The Imperial model has since been confirmed as A COMPLETE FRAUD.

14.) Dr. Fauci warned that Georgia would see a surge in coronavirus cases and deaths by opening their economy too early.

He was wrong again – In fact the opposite happened.

15.) And on Tuesday during testimony Dr. Fauci told Dr. Rand Paul that opening the schools would not be a good idea .

[Jun 07, 2021] Let's Find A Person We Can Trust-- House GOP Leader Says Fauci Needs To Go

Jun 07, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

McCarthy, speaking to Breitbart News over the past weekend, said that the American public has lost trust in Fauci after emails released last week raised questions about how Fauci handled the COVID-19 pandemic and his messaging to media outlets. Fauci has defended his emails and said they are being taken out of context.

"Well, the number one thing, it has to be for the American public," McCarthy said in a response to a question about Fauci resigning or being fired.

"Does the American public trust Dr. Fauci now that you've seen the emails? Now that you're seeing the flip-flop of positions? And just now that he's requesting from China to get the information?"

"You've got to trust the individuals to look into this," the GOP leader continued.

"Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died. And if you've taken every certain position in it, how are you able to come back with the trust of the nation to get to the bottom of it? We have to know what went on, and who knew what and when. I mean, everything we're finding there, how can the president - and I know the American people don't have trust in Dr. Fauci."

McCarthy said that public health officials need to put "politics aside" and provide good messaging because "we're talking about American lives here."

"We're talking about an administration that shifted course, when they first came in, the Biden administration, and gave millions of dollars back to the World Health Organization, that lied to the world, that is controlled by China. We watch that they changed the direction when we were standing up to China to appease China now," he added.

"This is the wrong direction, and I don't believe anybody in America can trust [inaudible] to get to the bottom of it."

As a result, McCarthy affirmed that Fauci should not hold his position now "because you do not have the trust in him."

Late last week, Fauci responded to the bevy of criticism, claiming they are "really very much an attack on science."

"What's happening now is very much an anti-science approach," Fauci told left-wing MSNBC host Rachel Maddow on June 4.

"I mean, it is what it is, I'm a public figure, I'm going to take the arrows and the swings, but they're just, they're fabricated. And that's just what it is it's all nonsense."

The Epoch Times has contacted NIAID for comment.

[Jun 06, 2021] Watch- A Vindicated Rand Paul Decimates Fauci Over Emails

If we take ZH commentariat opinions as a representative sample of the US conservatives opinion, Fauci days are now numbered. And not only because he over 80.
Jun 05, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Speaking to Laura Ingraham, Paul asserted that "The emails paint a disturbing picture, a disturbing picture of Dr. Fauci, from the very beginning, worrying that he had been funding gain-of-function research. He knows it to this day, but hasn't admitted it."

The Senator also urged that Fauci's involvement has not been adequately investigated because in the eyes of Democrats "he could do no wrong".

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Paul pointed out that Fauci was denying that there was even any funding for gain of function research at the Wuhan lab just a few weeks back, a claim which is totally contradicted by his own emails in which he discusses it.

"In his e-mail, within the topic line, he says "˜acquire of perform research.' He was admitting it to his non-public underlings seven to eight months in the past," Paul emphasised.

The Senator also pointed to the email from Dr. Peter Daszak , President of the EcoHealth Alliance, a group that directly funded the Wuhan lab gain of function research, thanking Fauci for not giving credence to the lab leak theory.

Ingraham asked Paul if Fauci could face felony culpability, to which the Senator replied "At the very least, there is ethical culpability," and Fauci should be fired from his government roles.

Earlier Paul had reacted to Amazon pulling Fauci's upcoming book from pre-sale:

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In softball interviews with MSNBC and CNN Thursday, Fauci dismissed the notion that his emails show any conflicts of interest, and claimed that it is in China's "best interest" to be honest about the pandemic origins, adding that the US should not act "accusatory" toward the communist state.

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Fauci also said it is "far fetched that the Chinese deliberately engineered something so that they could kill themselves, as well as other people."

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Dotard PRO 17 hours ago

Roger Stone was given 9 years for lying to Congress. Fauci should be on the same hook.

truth or go home 2 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Looks like Fauci is going the way of Gates, but he won't be arrested, because he is doing the bidding of the overlords.

What could he be arrested for? Let's see: Misappropriation of government funds, lying to a senator under oath, covering up a criminal operation, operating a conspiracy to deceive the people of the United States.

Seems like Rand is willing to nail Fauci to the wall, but he is not willing to go after the big kahuna - the entire hoax - the fake vaxxes, the fake lockdowns, the fake "cases", the fake death count, the elimination of flu...

Lucky Guesst 10 hours ago

Fauci is owned by big pharma. All the major news channels have at least one big pharma rat on the board. MSM continues to push the vaccines. They are all in bed together and need busted up if not taken out.

SummerSausage PREMIUM 15 hours ago

2012- Fauci says weaponized virus research may produce a pandemic but it would be worth it.

Jan 9, 2017 NIAD memo recommends lifting ban on funding weaponized virus research. Fauci controls the funds.

Jan 4, 2017 - CIA/FBI/DNC - under Obama's direction are told, essentially, to get Trump.

Obama is behind release of this virus, creating pandemic panic and lockdown to facilitate stealing the 2020 election.

OBAMA must be investigated.

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CheapBastard 10 hours ago

"The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it."

~ Anonymous

serotonindumptruck 17 hours ago remove link

Call me a pessimist, but I predict no accountability, no malfeasance, no criminal charges will be filed against Fauci.

We've all witnessed similar criminal behavior being perpetrated by the wealthy elite which result in no consequences.

Why should this be any different?

(((They))) now know that (((they))) can lie to us with impunity, and get away with it.

alexcojones 16 hours ago

New Nuremberg Needed Now.

Fauci in the witness chair.

"So, Dr. Fauci, your decisions, your outright lies, led to thousands, perhaps millions of unnecessary deaths."

Kobe Beef 10 hours ago

Does the fluzilla exist?

It could be this thing...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26552008/

Baric & Batwoman published their chimeric coronavirus with ACE2 receptor access in 2015. Funded by Fauci, of course.

Kevin 3 hours ago (Edited)

That document only shows that Gain Of Function research exists - not that the deaths, falsely attributed to covid are due to the product of that research.

What self-respecting, lab-created, killer virus, supposedly so deadly that it warrants the shutting down of the entire planet, is incapable of doing any more damage than the flu does every year?

In the case of the UK, and according to its own official figures, it hasn't even been able to do that compared to its history of seasonal flu.

See: https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/deceptive-construction-why-we-must-question-covid-19-mortality-statistics

So, 2020 was just a blip compared to the past and most of that blip in increased deaths was due to the insane policies imposed rather than any lab-created Fluzilla. If you subtract the deaths that occurred due to:

1. Kicking seniors out of hospital and dumping them into nursing homes where they died because they no longer got the treatment they needed but where they could infect the other, previously healthy residents.

2. The many tens of thousands of people who had life-saving surgeries and procedures cancelled.

3. The huge increase in suicides.

..... I doubt there would even be that blip.

If those historically, insignificant 2020 death figures are due to a lab-created, chimeric coronavirus then that's an epic fail of the scientists and an enormous waste of money for their education and the G.o.F. research.

However, it has conned enough idiots into believing that there was a Fluzilla in 2020 and got them to beg for jabs that might be how a lab created, chimeric coronavirus with ACE2 receptor access gets into their bodies and kills them.

The new con that it was a leaked GoF bio-weapon that caused the 2020 'pandemic' is just a lie upon a lie.

But it will persuade many of the gullible and fence-sitters to get jabbed because they will have accepted (subconsciously), that the Fluzilla must have existed last year and that the only way to combat such a bio-weapon is to jab themselves with poison. Ironically, that will create in their bodies what they fear most.

Befits 9 hours ago remove link

No, you are not thinking clearly. The Covid death numbers were clearly and horrifically inflated

1) The CDC changed how death certificates were recorded. Co-morbidities ( cancer, congestive heart failure, COPD for example) that co- morbidity was listed as cause of death in part one of the death certificate for 2 decades until the CDC changed death certificates. If that person had for example a flu At that time ( cough, stuffy nose etc) it might be listed as a contributing factor ( part 2 of death certificate) person died of co- morbidity but flu was a contributing factor. The CDC reversed these to make sure Covid was the cause of death- but truth was people died with Covid not from Covid.

2) 95% of Covid listed deaths actually died of co- morbidities- with Covid not from Covid. The CDC published that only 5% of " Covid " deaths had only Covid- the other 95% had on average 4 co- morbidities. In other words their cause of death was co- morbidity not Covid.

3) personal experience. I was a nurse. A close friend's brother had cancer for 7 years- in and out of remission. He was " diagnosed with Covid via PCR, almost no symptoms but for a slight cough and runny nose in March 2020. In April his cancer came back his liver shut down and he was dead by May 2020. He died from liver cancer but his death was recorded as Covid 19 simply because he had tested positive 60 days before on a Covid PCR test. This is the fraud the CDC perpetrated.

4) Hospitals received greatly enhanced financial renumeration if a patient was " diagnosed" with Covid. Compare hospital reimbursement ( Medicare) for a hospitalized Covid patient v influenza patient - similar symptoms- on or off respirator. Bottom line the medical system was financially rewarded for diagnosing " Covid" v influenza. Indeed the hospital did not even have to confirm a " Covid diagnosis with the fraudulent PCR test to diagnose Covid- just " symptom" based.

5) The PCR test can not diagnose any viral illness- simply by amplification cycles (30 plus) you can " find" Covid from a dead, partial RNA fragment. As Kary Mullis, Nobel prize inventor of PCR testing said PCR testing is NOT a diagnostic tool. Hospitals and docs, universities and public health departments, corporations, the CDC, FDA, used false PCR testing to financially enrich themselves while destroying the lives and livelihoods of millions inc careers of medical truth- tellers.

Fauci, the CDC, and the FDA knows all of this. Crimes v humanity trials must be undertaken v every medical person- from Big Pharma, CDC, FDA, Doctor, nurse, hospital administrator, public health official, corporate leader etc who used this Covid plandemic for personal benefit or whom through their actions harmed another.

SoDamnMad 17 hours ago

Watch Tucker Carlson's expose on "Why they lied for so long" At 3:29 he goes into Peter Danzak getting 27 "scientists" to write in the Lancet that the Covid virus didn't come from the Wuhan Lab but rather from nature (with the HIV spliced into the genome). But he also tells individuals at UNC NOT to sign the letter so that their gain-of-function research isn't tied into this. His e-mail goes to Ralph Baric, Antoinette Baric, as well as Andre Alison and Alexsei Chmura at EcoHealthAlliance who Fauci got the money to for funding GOF Chinese research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32V-e7saq60

SummerSausage PREMIUM 15 hours ago

Fauci is 80. Why was he allowed to stay on so long?

He controls $32 billion in annual grants that all US scientists and researchers depend on.

There's a whole lot more corruption to explore.

CatInTheHat 8 hours ago remove link

This whole thing feels CONTRIVED

Why does this even matter anymore?

China is NOT the problem here and focusing on CHINA DISTRACTS from a few things here.

1 FORT DETRIK. A nefarious US BIOWEAPONS lab that Fraudci worked at for 20 years. FD also works in conjunction with DARPA

2. Whenever it's WAPO or Buzzfeed (FFS!) who breaks a story related to the Rona, I am convinced that the elite have called them up to DISTRACT the public from something more important. Maybe that Fort Detrik was the source of the virus transferred to China via the US MIC/CIA and the Wuhan military games in China in Nov of 2019. 2 weeks later the first cases showed up at Wuhan.

3. This VACCINE has now killed over 5000 people and since the rollout for children between 12-16, several hundred have now been hospitalized with MYOCARDITIS OR PERICARDITIS.. In Israel a study conducted as the vax rolled out in YOUNG MEN, it was revealed that one in 3,000 was suffering from MYOCARDITIS within 4 days of the jab.

MSM is now reporting on adolescents in several states hospitalized with INFLAMMATION. ... Which they blame on RONA. FUNNY how every one of those states have rolled out the jab for CHILDREN

WE are being massively LIED too.

Also, Biden's press secretary PSAKI LIED when she said, today, that 63% of the population has had the jab.

Wrong. Only 41% of the US population has had BOTH jabs. Anti gun Biden is now offering guns in exchange for a vax in Virginia. And anti marijuana Biden offering MJ in AZ for those who take the jab. Why the desperation?

For more perspective on the massive deaths piling up due to this jab, in 1976, when 50 people were killed after the Swine flu jab IT WAS PULLED FROM THE MARKET.

Many thousands who have not had the jab are reporting illness after being in close contact with those who are vaxxed.

Lots and lots to DISTRACT from

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

ableman28 10 hours ago

True story....one of my VC firms investments was approached by the defense department to create a wearable lapel style detector for chemical and biological weapons that would work in very low concentrations giving people time to put on their CBW gear. Our investee said sure, we'll take a crack at it, but where are we going to get all the biological and chemical agents to test it with. The DOD response was don't worry, we have everything you'll need. And they did.

The US bio weapons program was supposedly terminated by Nixon in 1969. And our official policy is that we don't research or stockpile such things. ********.

Armed Resistance 15 hours ago (Edited) remove link

This virus was engineered at Ft. Detrick. It's the same place that made the military-grade Anthrax the deep state sent to Tom Daschle and others in government post 9/11 to gin up more fear.

This was a Fauci-coordinated deep state bio weapon they released in Wuhan to kick off the scamdemic and the "great reset". Releasing it China gave some cover to the deep state and the people there are under total control of the state. The rest is just filler. Always about more control.....

BeePee 15 hours ago

The virus was not engineered at Ft. Detrick.

You are a CCP troll.

Sorry you have such a low pay grade job.

Armed Resistance 15 hours ago (Edited)

Anybody who Questions the deep state is a CCP troll? Look in the mirror. You're the one running cover for these satanists! You rack up downvotes like Jordan did points! ZH'ers can spot a troll a mile away son.

louie1 PREMIUM 14 hours ago (Edited)

The US way is to put the perpetrators in charge of the inuiry to control the outcome. Dulles, Zellick, Fauci

Mighty Turban of Gooch 11 hours ago

Our government is corrupt. As long as the Democrats and the MSM have Fauci's back, he has nothing to worry about no matter what he's done.

He's just a typical lying bureaucrat and lying to the public thru the media outlets, as we have seen countless times now by countless government 'officials', is not a crime. Lying under oath however is. But now days we see these guys get away with that too without consequence.

So don't hold your breath. There is absolutely nothing that can take these guys out. Even if they throw one of their own under the bus, the best you can ever hope for is a resignation as criminal charges would never happen.

dustinthewind 16 hours ago (Edited)

"The CDC Foundation operates independently from CDC as a private , nonprofit 501(c)(3) organization incorporated in the State of Georgia."

"Because CDC is a federal agency , all scientific findings resulting from CDC research are available to the public and open to the broader scientific community for review."

"The Board of Directors of the CDC Foundation today named Judith A. Monroe, MD, FAAFP, as the new president and CEO of the CDC Foundation . Monroe joins the CDC Foundation from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ( CDC ), where she leads the agency's Office for State, Tribal, Local and Territorial Support."

Gates is the largest private donor of the CDC and WHO. Gates is part of the World Economic Forum who controls Fauci which using US taxpayers funds did gain of function studies first in the US and caught moved to China where it was intentionally leaked to blame the Chinese. John Kerry is also part of the WEF and is their man in Washington calling the war mongering narrative against both China and Russia. Gates funded Imperial College and Ferguson to write the code that was fake and used by many countries to justify lockdowns. Gates is the largest ag landowner and wants to ban meat. Who just got hacked and now it is blamed on Russia? Boris is destroying the UK and after a call from Gates gave 500 million pounds to vaccinate third world countries and lockdowns. Both fathers were tied to Rockefeller Institute. Rand, connect the dots!

" Fauci under Global Attack"

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/fauci-under-global-attack/

Fauci is under attack globally and has shown himself to be unreliable and should be fired "" PERIOD! All the emails that have come out from an FOIA request are interesting, and it shows he has information that was credible concerning a leak from the lab in Wuhan. Let me make this PERFECTLY clear! This was NOT a DELIBERATE leak by the Chinese government. If China wanted to really hurt the West, the technology is there where a virus can be used as a delivery system, and as such, it can be designed to attack specific genetic sequences meaning that it could target just Italian, Greeks, English, Germans, or whoever.

COVID-19, based upon everything I see from our model and reliable sources, was created in a lab and was DELIBERATELY unleashed to further this Great Reset. I BELIEVE someone from this agenda bribed a lab technician to release it in the local community. China did NOT benefit from this pandemic. The only ones who benefitted were the World Economic Forum (WEF) consortium, which I know sold stocks and bonds ahead of the crash. They are also in league with the World Health Organization (WHO), and the head of the WHO is a politician and not even a doctor. That is like putting me in charge of surgery at a hospital. How can Tedros Adhanom be in such a position with no background in the subject matter? Tedros appears at the World Economic Forum and has participated in its agenda. The WHO should be compelled to turn over ALL emails and communication ASAP. My bet is they pull a Hillary"¦Oh sorry. They were hacked by Russians who destroyed everything.


The World Economic Forum is at the center of everything. When will someone investigate all of these connections right down to creating the slogan, Build Back Better? Of course, they will call this a conspiracy theory so they can avoid having to actually investigate anything. My point is simple: produce the evidence and prove this is just a conspiracy theory.

'John Kerry's Think Tank Calls for War With Russia Over Climate Change'

https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/12/john-kerrys-think-tank-calls-for-war-with-russia-over-climate-change/

" America will soon have a government that treats the climate crisis as the urgent national security threat it is."" John Kerry

Recently-appointed Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry has announced his intention of dealing with the pressing issue of global warming as a national security concern. "America will soon have a government that treats the climate crisis as the urgent national security threat it is," the 76-year-old former Secretary of State wrote. "I am proud to partner with the President-elect, our allies, and the young leaders of the climate movement to take on this crisis." Kerry is a founding member of the Washington think tank, the American Security Project (ASP) , whose board is a who's who of retired generals, admirals and senators.

For the ASP, the primary objectives were:

  1. A huge rebuilding of the United States' military bases,

  2. Countering China in the Pacific,

  3. Preparing for a war with Russia in the newly-melted Arctic.

The ASP recommends "prioritizing the measures that can protect readiness" of the military to strike at any time, also warning that rising sea levels will hurt the combat readiness of the Marine Expeditionary Force. Thus, a rebuilding of the U.S.' worldwide network of military bases is in order.

Nelbev 17 hours ago

... and what kind of kickbacks does Fauci get when he doles out $ millions in grant money?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK6gAbZdhDc

CatInTheHat 9 hours ago (Edited)

Fort Detrik a US BIOWEAPONS lab working in tandem with the Wuhan lab. The US is the leader in BIOWEAPONS research and has 100's of labs across the US and in other countries.

FRAUDCI having worked at FD for 20 years.

MommickedDingbatter 12 hours ago

Without Nuremberg trials 2.0, this is all meaningless.

Nycmia37 16 hours ago remove link

Follow the science, lol. Just ask yourself who controls the science?? Big drug pharmas, people is so stupid they believe in everything doctors tell them. The vast majority are on the field to get rich and enjoy from the big bonuses and trips they get paid in order to promote a drug. If they speak out they get called a conspiracy person. Nobody cant go against this mafia because they have the total control, media, politicians, government. We the people have to self educate about health and finance otherwise we will become zombies like the majority of people.

SoDamnMad 7 hours ago remove link

Here are the 27 starting with Peter Daszak who signed THE LANCET letter saying ," We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin. "

  1. Peter Daszak, EcoHealth Alliance, New York
  2. Charles Calisher, Colorado State University
  3. Dennis Carroll, Scowcroft Institute of International Affairs, Texas
  4. Rita Colwell, University of Maryland
  5. Ronald Corley, NEIDL Institute, Boston
  6. Christian Drosten, Charité "" Universitatsmedizin Berlin, Germany
  7. Luis Enjuanes, National Center of Biotechnology, Madrid
  8. Jeremy Farrar, The Wellcome Trust, London
  9. Hume Field, EcoHealth Alliance, New York
  10. Josie Golding, The Wellcome Trust, London
  11. Alexander Gorbalenya, Leiden University Medical Center, Leiden, Netherlands
  12. Bart Haagmans, Erasmus Medical Center, Rotterdam, Netherlands
  13. James Hughes, Emory University, Atlanta
  14. William Karesh, EcoHealth Alliance, New York
  15. Gerald Keusch, Boston University
  16. Sai Kit Lam, University of Malaya, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
  17. Juan Lubroth, Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, Rome, Italy
  18. John Mackenzie, Curtin University, Perth, Australia
  19. Larry Madoff, Massachusetts Medical School
  20. Jonna Mazet, University of California at Davis
  21. Peter Palese, Icahn School of Medicine, New York
  22. Stanley Perlman, University of Iowa
  23. Leo Poon, The University of Hong Kong
  24. Bernard Roizman, University of Chicago
  25. Linda Saif, The Ohio State University
  26. Kanta Subbarao, The University of Melbourne, Australia
  27. Mike Turner, The Wellcome Trust, London
gaaasp 6 hours ago

Pangolins indeed.

Moribundus 12 hours ago remove link

Daszak is just cover up for Pentagon. In this case Daszak = Pentagon.

https://www.independentsciencenews.org/news/peter-daszaks-ecohealth-alliance-has-hidden-almost-40-million-in-pentagon-funding/

DesertEagle 12 hours ago

Fauci is protected at the very highest levels of the oligarchy. So regardless of these revelations nothing serious will ever happen to him. At worst, he will step down and retire to his villa in the south of France. Then the controlled MSM will refuse to mention him again.

Clearing 17 hours ago

Gee, while you're at it, sue Fauci in his individual capacity. He doesn't get immunity for lying. See below:

In the United States, qualified immunity is a legal principle that grants government officials performing discretionary (optional) functions immunity from civil suits unless the plaintiff shows that the official violated "clearly established statutory or constitutional rights of which a reasonable person would have known". It is a form of sovereign immunity less strict than absolute immunity that is intended to protect officials who "make reasonable but mistaken judgments about open legal questions" extending to "all [officials] but the plainly incompetent or those who knowingly violate the law " Qualified immunity applies only to government officials in civil litigation, and does not protect the government itself from suits arising from officials' actions.

DemandSider 3 hours ago (Edited)

"PCR is separate from that, it's just a process that's used to make a whole lot of something out of something. That's what it is. It doesn't tell you that you're sick and it doesn't tell you that the thing you ended up with really was going to hurt you or anything like that," Mullis said.

-Nobel Prize winning inventor of PCR being used as a "test" to perpetuate the scamdemic. Mr. "small government" Rand Paul is only making it worse.

Almachius 2 hours ago

Never mind Fauci. White Supremacists are the greatest threat to America.

Obiden said so.

And Obiden is an honourable man.

Fiscal Reality 14 hours ago

Fauci doesn't give a crap what happens. He got his book deal payoff. He's praying to get fired so he can cash in on his taxpayer funded pension and get a $10 million contract with CNN.

2types PREMIUM 13 hours ago

Amazon pulled his book from presale so says the article. Probably in his best interest to keep his mouth shut right now. Anything he says can and will be used against him. On second thought.... maybe that's why water carrier Bezos suspended sales?

[May 29, 2021] Fauci In 2012- Gain-Of-Function Research Worth Risk Of Lab Accident Sparking Pandemic

May 28, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

America's top virologist, Anthony Fauci, argued in 2012 that the risks of a lab accident sparking a pandemic are outweighed by the potential benefits of manipulating viruses via gain-of-function research , according to previously unsurfaced remarks reported by Sharri Markson via The Australian .

"In an unlikely but conceivable turn of events, what if that scientist becomes infected with the virus, which leads to an outbreak and ultimately triggers a pandemic? " Fauci wrote in the American Society for Microbiology in 2012, adding "Many ask reasonable questions: given the possibility of such a scenario "" however remote "" should the initial experiments have been performed and/or published in the first place, and what were the processes involved in this decision?"

"Scientists working in this field might say "" as indeed I have said "" that the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks ," Fauci continued. "It is more likely that a pandemic would occur in nature, and the need to stay ahead of such a threat is a primary reason for performing an experiment that might appear to be risky. "

In the paper, Dr Fauci also writes: "Within the research community, many have expressed concern that important research progress could come to a halt just because of the fear that someone, somewhere, might attempt to replicate these experiments sloppily. This is a valid concern."

Dr Fauci has led the US response to the outbreak but is now facing serious questions about his role in funding the radical experiments being conducted inside the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

...

Dr Fauci on May 11 reversed his position on whether Covid-19 had leaked from the WIV, and said he was now "not convinced" the virus had developed naturally and authorities needed to find out "exactly what happened" .

Gain-of-function experiments "" often with bat-derived coronaviruses "" centre on manipulating, splicing and recombining viruses potentially into strands of highly infectious and little understood diseases. -The Australian

Earlier this month, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) went to town on Dr. Anthony Fauci Tuesday during a hearing in front of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions committee. Paul alleged that the National Institutes of Health (NIH) had used a middle-man to funnel money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology via EcoHealth Alliance - which worked with the lab on bat coronavirus projects.

Paul specifically referenced "gain-of-function" research which in this case has been focused on how to make animal viruses more transmissible to humans - specifically bat coronaviruses .

"Government scientists like yourself who favor gain of function research," Paul began...

...only to have Fauci interject "I don't favor gain of function research in China," adding "You are saying things that are not correct."

Paul pushed back - continuing:

"[Those who favor gain of function] say that COVID-19 mutations were random and not designed by man."

"I do not have any accounting of what the Chinese may have done," Fauci shot back, adding that he's in favor of further investigation, but that the NIH had nothing to do with the origins of COVID-19.

"We have not funded gain of function research on this virus in the Wuhan Institute of Virology," he added.

"No matter how many times you say it, it didn't happen."

As we noted in March , the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) - headed by Fauci, "had funded a number of projects that involved WIV scientists, including much of the Wuhan lab's work with bat coronaviruses."

Via our May 11 report :

In 2017, Fauci's agency resumed funding a controversial grant without the approval of a government oversight body, according to the Daily Caller . For context, in 2014, the Obama administration temporarily suspended federal funding for gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses . Four months prior to that decision, the NIH effectively shifted this research to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) via a grant to nonprofit group EcoHealth Alliance, headed by Peter Daszak.

Peter Daszak, president of EcoHealth Alliance

The NIH's first $666,442 installment of EcoHealth's $3.7 million grant was paid in June 2014, with similar annual payments through May 2019 under the " Understanding The Risk Of Bat Coronavirus Emergence " project.

Notably, the WIV "had openly participated in gain-of-function research in partnership with U.S. universities and institutions" for years under the leadership of Dr. Shi 'Batwoman' Zhengli, according to the Washington Post 's Josh Rogin.

EcoHealth Alliance president Peter Daszak toasts with WIV's 'Batwoman' Shi Zhengli

Meanwhile, Fauci 'rammed through' gain-of-function research in December of 2017 without approval .

Via The Australian :

Multiple Trump administration officials told The Weekend Australian D r Fauci had not raised the issue of restarting the research funding with senior figures in the White House.

" It kind of just got rammed through ," one official said.

"I think there's truth in the narrative that the (National Security Council) staff, the president, the White House chief-of-staff, those people were in the dark that he was switching back on the research."

The Weekend Australian has also confirmed that neither Mike Pompeo, the then director of the Central Intelligence Agency, nor National Security Council member Matthew Pottinger, was briefed.

The experiments are also opposed by prominent scientists, including the Cambridge Working Group of 200 researchers which issued a public warning in 2014.

"Accident risks with newly created "potential pandemic pathogens" raise grave new concerns," the group's letter read. " Laboratory creation of highly transmissible, novel strains of dangerous viruses, especially but not limited to influenza, poses substantially increased risks.

" An accidental infection in such a setting could trigger outbreaks that would be difficult or impossible to control. Historically, new strains of influenza, once they establish transmission in the human population, have infected a quarter or more of the world's population within two years."

And Steven Salzberg, of the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, in 2015 said the benefits of gain-of-function research were "minimal at best" and they could "far more safely be obtained through other avenues of research".

"I am very concerned that the continuing gain-of-function research on influenza viruses, and more recently on other viruses, presents extremely serious risks to the public health," he wrote.

Worth the risk, Fauci says? ay_arrow


truth or go home 4 hours ago (Edited)

Seems like Biden doesn't really need an investigation after all. Confirm the facts in the above article. Done. All this could be known in January 2020, but the details are interesting.

What kind of government allows a guy to create a pathogen then when it gets out lets him be the central figure in combating it? We are living in clown world.

Lorenz Feedback 4 hours ago remove link

For those few who remain here who take an interest in facts:
EcoHealth funding was DoD in origin: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B2w2QedrqJhS1ISF9z5ZUqJS3Y64FuQstllN1mWiAhc/edit#gid=954025590
Details on Page 2
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B2w2QedrqJhS1ISF9z5ZUqJS3Y64FuQstllN1mWiAhc/edit#gid=978319320 - HHS funded risks of Bat coronavirus research


On October 16, 2014, the White House Office of Science and Technolog y Policy announced the launch of the U.S. Government (USG) gain-of-function (GOF) deliberative process to re-evaluate the potential risks and benefits associated with certain GOF experiments. During this process the USG paused the release of federal funding for GOF studies anticipated to enhance the pathogenicity or transmissibility among mammals by respiratory droplets of influenza, MERS, or SARS viruses..... errrr ..... so they moved it to China

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truth or go home 4 hours ago

Wow about 12 million from NIH and DoD to study BatBourne viruses in Asia starting in 2014 and going through 2020 - wonder what that was all about?

Lorenz Feedback 3 hours ago remove link

truth or go home:
Look at the 3rd Author. Anthony S Fauci .. they knew in 2008.
They studied it, then gain of functioned it: deliberate weaponization...

Then there's Bill Gate's family:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2126288/pdf/449.pdf

JH2020 5 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Much worse than that.

What is so ironic is that people bristle, when you compare these wicked men to Nazis, when they ARE your evil Nazis. Consider, for two seconds:

Plan A. Not even contemplate playing around with things that an oops could result in mass death, heaven forbid! That is, righteousness.
Plan B. Play around with things that an oops could result in mass death. That is, evil, make that very evil.

We choose Plan B, have a pandemic, mass death that has killed hundreds of thousands, and nobody arrests Fauci.

What conceivable gain were these monsters looking for, that weighs positively against mass death of innocent, civilian lives, I ask you? This Fauci demonstrates a mentality they tried monsters at Nuremburg over.

What's hilarious is they put this Mengele in charge of public health matters, make him the highest paid bureaucrat!

It is the mind of a Nazi, a psycho, that would engage in crimes against humanity.

Truly,

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

(While, what, the DHS and FBI are hunting down people who eat white rice or use the wrong gender pronouns, or voted for Trump, while ignoring criminal, racist communists, burning the cities? The U.S. has a ****, wicked government, all anybody can say. Perverts.)

RiverRoad 5 hours ago

Fauci lied and billionaires multiplied.

Ghost of Porky 3 hours ago

Exhibit B: Fauci Wins Million Dollar Israeli Prize For Defending Science

GemJedi 5 hours ago remove link

1) They said the reward of learning how to combat new threats outweighed the risk from gain-of-function research on existing risks.

2) They emergency planned for this before the gain-of-function strain escaped.

3) After gain-of-function strain escapes, they said the reward of protection outweighed the risk from the emergency use of experimental DNA altering vaccine.

4) Makes one wonder if the reward of the experimental vaccine was the only thing they were really concerned with.

5) We the people get the risks, Fauci, Gates and drugmakers get the rewards.

ZorbasStep 2 hours ago

Fauci keeps being referred to as "America's top" virologist, since his corrupt *** has been sitting at a very high level of the medical industrial complex, in a coveted position at NIH for decades, hanging on to power when much more able people should have been given the reigns.

Fauci is a liar, and a psychopath, more than he is a science expert. Conflicts of interest abound. In a fair world, he would be executed or sent to prison for life.

hardright 2 hours ago

Dr. Fauci is not boarded in infectious disease.

He is a rheumatologist/allergist.

Make_Mine_A_Double 5 hours ago

Faux-chi finances need to be looked at very closely. I'd bet somewhere along the line the Chicoms paid him off either directly or through an academic cut out. This is the Slants favorite grooming method and being (((special))) dropping a coin on the floor I'm sure he bent over the grab it and that's when the Chicoms goosed him.

Than he steers grants, contracts, technology to the Chicoms under the aegis of 'research' and the Chicoms not only get a 100 to 1 return on investment, but they also get a compromised upper echelon flak in DC to pimp for them.

This is the whole 'Russia, Russia, Russia" scam in a nutshell. It's basically a 'look squirrel!' to draw your eye away from MASSIVE CHICOM PENETRATION AT ALL LEVELS OF DC.

janus 3 hours ago

Senator Paul, perhaps better informed on the subject than most scientists, does not fully appreciate just how terrifying gain of function truly is.

Did a deepdive into the science a couple weeks ago, didn't sleep well the week following. Without getting into the details, one of the most alarming aspects of gain of function is in mutability. You guys remember how all previous viruses virility attenuated with each successive mutation? Like all of them except for covid and its alleged variants. The reason has to do with gain of function. Viruses do not themselves mutate, as they are not alive. Instead, the copy of a virus is mistranscribed by your cells ribosomes, and other times through in the nucleus through reverse transcription (like with retro viruses); in the case of the latter (and possibly the former) those mutations can be choreographed, or more properly programmed, within a chimera virus' genetic code.

This process can be augmented and conducted by, you guessed it -- mRNA and adrenovirus drug tech.

I'm done, guys. If there's no appetite to line these people up and execute them on live television, i just don't care about anything anymore. I"ll be drinking heavily this weekend to try and forget about it all. Happy memorial day! Your political and technocratic elite are using your money to devise ways to kill you all stealthily and en masse...and no one gives a ****!

Just bring the curtain down on this ****show already.


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Southern_Boy 3 hours ago


Now instead of Spy vs Spy we have mutation vs mutation. That is, until the curing mutation is worse than the disease.


judgement put 6 hours ago remove link

It's becoming more a more clear that Fraudci has been deliberately concealing important facts since at least January 2020, all the while maintaining a pretense of being an innocent white-hat trying to help with a situation about which he knew more than he was letting on.

He should be immediately removed from any positions of responsibility pending an investigation of his conduct.

noctevolens 2 hours ago (Edited)

You called Fauci America's top virologist at the begining of the article. Kary Mullis (nobel prize for inventing the PCR test) more accurately described Fauci as a career bureaucrat who doesn't know anything about anything. Perhaps you could use this description in future articles.

Rest Easy 1 hour ago

This isn't strange? Guess they explain it with science.

For a year now, the world has obsessively poured over news and statistics on COVID-19 . Although cases of SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus, have seemingly plateaued among a rapidly expanding vaccination effort , there's another story hidden just beneath the surface: The flu has almost disappeared this winter.

Last fall, epidemiologists warned of an oncoming "twindemic" of COVID-19 and seasonal influenza""and although cases of the former virus exploded this winter, it appears as though increased flu vaccinations, universal masking, and social distancing helped tamp down spread of the latter.

https://www.prevention.com/health/a34671428/how-many-people-die-from-flu/

During the 2019 -2020 influenza season, CDC estimates that influenza was associated with 38 million illnesses, 18 million medical visits, 405,000 hospitalizations, and 22,000 deaths .Oct 6, 2020

https://www.cdc.gov "º 2019-2020

Estimated Influenza Illnesses, Medical visits ... - CDC


PigMan 4 hours ago remove link

Unfortunately getting caught doesn't mean **** to the Globalists.

They'll launch an investigation. Won't be able to talk because there's an investigation going on. Drag it out. Distract and send some prominent conservatives down multiple rabbit holes until the whole thing is "Pizzagated."

And we'll be so knee deep in their next planned crisis, that figuring out the last one seems worthless.

Wash..Rinse..Repeat

FlipSide 4 hours ago

That's why I don't bother watching the dog and pony show that are these hearings. After decades of these hearings, nothing has ever been done afterwards.

European Monarchist 2 hours ago remove link

Josef Mengele

Josef Mengele ( [ˈjoËzÉ›f ˈmɛŋəlÉ™] ( listen ); 16 March 1911 "" 7 February 1979), also known as the Angel of Death (German: Todesengel ) [1] was a German Schutzstaffel (SS) officer and physician during World War II . He is mainly remembered for his actions at the Auschwitz concentration camp , where he performed deadly experiments on prisoners , and was a member of the team of doctors who selected victims to be killed in the gas chambers [a] and was one of the doctors who administered the gas. With Red Army troops sweeping through Poland , Mengele was transferred 280 kilometres (170 mi) from Auschwitz to the Gross-Rosen concentration camp on 17 January 1945, just 10 days before the arrival of the Soviet forces at Auschwitz.

Before the war, Mengele had received doctorates in anthropology and medicine, and began a career as a researcher. He joined the Nazi Party in 1937 and the SS in 1938. He was assigned as a battalion medical officer at the start of World War II, then transferred to the Nazi concentration camps service in early 1943 and assigned to Auschwitz, where he saw the opportunity to conduct genetic research on human subjects. His experiments focused primarily on twins, with no regard for the health or safety of the victims. [3] [4]

After the war, Mengele fled to South America . He sailed to Argentina in July 1949, assisted by a network of former SS members . He initially lived in and around Buenos Aires , then fled to Paraguay in 1959 and Brazil in 1960, all the while being sought by West Germany , Israel , and Nazi hunters such as Simon Wiesenthal , who wanted to bring him to trial. Mengele eluded capture in spite of extradition requests by the West German government and clandestine operations by the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad . He drowned in 1979 after suffering a stroke while swimming off the coast of Bertioga , and was buried under the false name of Wolfgang Gerhard. [2] His remains were disinterred and positively identified by forensic examination in 1985.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

lwilland1012 4 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Three things: One, the rate at which Fauci and Gates are being thrown under the bus has me very suspicious. Two, the media is now writing articles about what happens if the audit shows Trump won Arizona. Three, the establishment has done a complete 180 on COVID lab leak in a matter of days. WTF is happening?

KashNCarry 4 hours ago remove link

Gates culpability in his ties with Epstein

The Cover-Up Continues: The Truth About Bill Gates, Microsoft, and Jeffrey Epstein

Golden Showers 5 hours ago

Those of us keeping an ear to the ground understood back in December of 2019 that the China Virus likely came from Wuhan lab with stipulation of Fort De-trick, MD. George Webb talked about the 2019 Wuhan Military Games as a potential vector.

Those of us keeping an ear to the ground learned really fast about Fauci NIH, AIDS, WHO, Tedros, Chinese researches at Harvard, in Canada, elsewheres.

Kat PREMIUM 6 hours ago remove link

Fauci isn't the fall guy. Fauci is the source of this pandemic, even if he didn't do it intentionally. GoF research became legal again in 2017 (thanks in large part to Fauci's whining), but came with a ton of restrictions. Realizing he would never get SARS-related Corona GoF research funded in the US or EU, he funded it in China and through a third party so that it wouldn't blow back on him in case the enhanced virus got out.

The politicians are merely being opportunistic. They don't want any viral spikes blamed on them and they're trying to expand their power. Typical political stuff. nothing new.


Janet_the_Gannet 6 hours ago

Government officials and the recipients of government grants and contracts for "gain-of-function" research argue that these experiments are critical for understanding the subtle changes that can make a bird virus a pandemic threat.

https://ahrp.org/what-is-gain-of-function-research-who-is-at-high-risk/

This is what came up when I did a search on the use of gain of function research. To me, it's analagous to someone doing research on the causes of alcoholism by drinking two bottles of vodka a day.

BennyBoo 1 hour ago

Interesting how all of a sudden msm is now publicizing the wuhan lab leak story - anybody paying attention was aware over a year ago this was part of the narrative. Now it's distraction from something else, and serving to cement the notion that the as yet un-isolated virus cov-sars-2 actually exists. Oh, yeah, drums are beating for war with China...

El Vaquero 3 hours ago

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/5708621/

This paper was funded by the NIAID grant and most of the author's names are people from the Wuhan lab. In this paper:

In this study, we confirmed the use of human ACE2 as receptor of two novel SARSr-CoVs by using chimeric viruses with the WIV1 backbone replaced with the S gene of the newly identified SARSr-CoVs. Rs7327's S protein varied from that of WIV1 and WIV16 at three aa residues in the receptor-binding motif, including one contact residue (aa 484) with human ACE2.

And there are more references to producing chimeric viruses in it. That's gain of function research that Fauci lied about.

https://reporter.nih.gov/project-details/9819304

That's the grant details. In the description:

Aim 3. In vitro and in vivo characterization of SARSr-CoV spillover risk, coupled with spatial and phylogenetic analyses to identify the regions and viruses of public health concern. We will use S protein sequence data, infectious clone technology, in vitro and in vivo infection experiments and analysis of receptor binding to test the hypothesis that % divergence thresholds in S protein sequences predict spillover potential.

That's gain of function research that Fauci lied about.

ponchoramic 3 hours ago

Either they cultured it in human ACE2, over and over again. Serial culturing OR they used ferrets because Ferret ACE2 is very similar to ours. I think it was Ferrets because the antibody response was not exact and some people experienced serious autoimmune disfunction.

El Vaquero 3 hours ago

I believe they were using cell lines with humanized ACE2, but I'd have to do more digging to be sure. I'm pretty sure that the virus is some bat coronavirus where they put the receptor binding domain from a pangolin coronavirus on the S protein and inserted a polybasic furin cleavage site. They could have then run it over and over through cell cultures with human ACE2 receptors.

JohnGault 4 hours ago (Edited)

So Fauci promotes funding chinese viral labs to accelerate the lethality in a virus, then continued to secretly push funding for the project even after the government banned precisely that activity, then denied being involved with the research at the Chinese lab, then cast doubt that the lab that he was paying to develop the very virus that first emerged in the town where the lab was located, was involved in the outbreak.....

Huh?

If Fauci was paying the chinese lab to do the work, why doesnt he have all the data???? I'm betting Fauci hasnt told us the whole story....are these people looking at their potential liability in a million deaths???

RC2 4 hours ago

I am guessing Fauci doesn't fund a project like this all on his own there are other players as well

MASTER OF UNIVERSE 5 hours ago

The Obama administration listened to the 2014 Cambridge Working Group Call-to-Action and honoured our group collective as researchers because of the eminent names on the list of signatories which the White House and Pentagon knew they could not take on.

My name is Robert Gordon White and I signed for Carleton University in 2014.

http://www.cambridgeworkinggroup.org/

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Jackprong 56 minutes ago remove link

"Scientists working in this field might say "" as indeed I have said "" that the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks ," Fauci continued. "It is more likely that a pandemic would occur in nature, and the need to stay ahead of such a threat is a primary reason for performing an experiment that might appear to be risky. "

In the paper, Dr Fauci also writes: "Within the research community, many have expressed concern that important research progress could come to a halt just because of the fear that someone, somewhere, might attempt to replicate these experiments sloppily. This is a valid concern."

Dr Fauci has led the US response to the outbreak but is now facing serious questions about his role in funding the radical experiments being conducted inside the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

For a long time, the Deep State has covered up this whole episode.

Soloamber 52 minutes ago

The deep state covered it up and the MSM helped .

paranoid.dragon 4 hours ago

Covid-19 was worked on at the following places:

-> UNC ;

-> Ft. Detrick ;

-> Canada ;

-> Wuhan Lab ;

WHERE-ELSE and WHO-ELSE?

What other viruses have been engineered and prepped for release???

Every bio lab in the world needs a complete audit and to be burned down.

paranoid.dragon 4 hours ago

i think every single biologist, chemist, "scientist", etc in the world working on anything that has to do with genetic engineering or mind control or "gain of function", or nanotech, etc should be questioned deeply about the capabilities and dangers of their work at the Covid Nuremburg Trial.

We need to know the full scope of what we're facing and exactly what bio weapons have been created.

If it cannot exist outside the lab without killing people, then it gets burned along with the entire lab it's in.

To be on the safe side, every biolab in the world should be burned to the ground.

[May 29, 2021] Research on Highly Pathogenic H5N1 Influenza Virus- The Way Forward

May 28, 2021 | nlm.nih.gov

Research on Highly Pathogenic H5N1 Influenza Virus: The Way Forward Anthony S. Fauci Author information Copyright and License information Disclaimer This article has been cited by other articles in PMC. Go to: ABSTRACT

The voluntary moratorium on gain-of-function research related to the transmissibility of highly pathogenic H5N1 influenza virus should continue, pending the resolution of critical policy questions concerning the rationale for performing such experiments and how best to report their results. The potential benefits and risks of these experiments must be discussed and understood by multiple stakeholders, including the general public, and all decisions regarding such research must be made in a transparent manner. Go to: COMMENTARY

The influenza virus research community is to be commended for implementing a voluntary moratorium on "gain-of-function" experiments related to the transmissibility of highly pathogenic H5N1 influenza virus ( 1 ). As a key funder of influenza virus research, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, a component of the U.S. National Institutes of Health, strongly supports the continuation of this moratorium pending the resolution of critical policy issues related to the rationale for performing and reporting such experiments. We need to be certain that the fundamental purposes of this work, together with its risks and benefits, are understood by multiple stakeholders, including the general public, and that decisions are made in a transparent manner.

It is clear that the scientists who conducted the experiments that triggered this debate ( 2 , 3 ), and who are among those who voluntarily signed onto the moratorium, have conducted their research properly and under the safest and most secure conditions. However, the issue that has been intensely debated is whether knowledge obtained from these experiments could inadvertently affect public health in an adverse way, even in nations multiple time zones away. Putting aside the specter of bioterrorism for the moment, consider this hypothetical scenario: an important gain-of-function experiment involving a virus with serious pandemic potential is performed in a well-regulated, world-class laboratory by experienced investigators, but the information from the experiment is then used by another scientist who does not have the same training and facilities and is not subject to the same regulations. In an unlikely but conceivable turn of events, what if that scientist becomes infected with the virus, which leads to an outbreak and ultimately triggers a pandemic? Many ask reasonable questions: given the possibility of such a scenario""however remote""should the initial experiments have been performed and/or published in the first place, and what were the processes involved in this decision?

Scientists working in this field might say""as indeed I have said""that the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks. It is more likely that a pandemic would occur in nature, and the need to stay ahead of such a threat is a primary reason for performing an experiment that might appear to be risky. However, we must respect that there are genuine and legitimate concerns about this type of research, both domestically and globally. We cannot expect those who have these concerns to simply take us, the scientific community, at our word that the benefits of this work outweigh the risks, nor can we ignore their calls for greater transparency, their concerns about conflicts of interest, and their efforts to engage in a dialog about whether these experiments should have been performed in the first place. Those of us in the scientific community who believe in the merits of this work have the responsibility to address these concerns thoughtfully and respectfully.

Granted, the time it takes to engage in such a dialog could potentially delay or even immobilize the conduct of certain important experiments and the publication of valuable information that could move the field forward for the good of public health. Within the research community, many have expressed concern that important research progress could come to a halt just because of the fear that someone, somewhere, might attempt to replicate these experiments sloppily. This is a valid concern. However, although influenza virus scientists are the best-informed individuals about influenza virus science, and possibly even about the true level of risk to public health, the influenza virus research community can no longer be the only player in the discussion of whether certain experiments should be done. Public opinion (domestic and global) and the judgments of independent biosafety and biosecurity experts are also critical. If we want to continue this important work, we collectively need to do a better job of articulating the scientific rationale for such experiments well before they are performed and provide discussion about the potential risk to public health, however remote. We must also not rule out the possibility that in the course of these discussions, a broad consensus might be reached that certain experiments actually should not be conducted or reported.

In this regard, as part of an interagency process, the U.S. Government is planning to augment current policy guidance related to life sciences dual-use research of concern (DURC) ( 4 ) by developing a framework for strengthening regular institutional review and oversight of certain life sciences research with high-consequence pathogens and toxins in order to identify potential DURC and mitigate risks where appropriate. This policy implementation proposal will go well beyond H5N1 influenza virus to include 15 pathogens and likely will be modified to include additional examples of DURC. It will delineate the procedures for the oversight of DURC and the responsibilities of investigators, research institutions, and the U.S. Government. Ultimately, there will also be a companion guide to help institutions identify, assess, manage, and responsibly communicate to the public about DURC.

With regard to the specific question of whether certain gain-of-function experiments related to the transmissibility of highly pathogenic H5N1 influenza virus should be conducted at all, which addresses directly the issue of the moratorium, the U.S. Government is planning to host an international workshop before the end of 2012 with important input from the National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity and with global representation, including those with biosafety and biosecurity expertise, influenza virus and non-influenza virus scientists, and representatives of the domestic and global public. The meeting participants will consider general principles concerning the rationale for and risks and benefits of such experiments and what lines might be drawn in their conduct and/or reporting.

The game has changed for influenza virus scientists and the agencies that support them. As researchers, we must realize that we are critical players in the process of policy and decision making related to DURC, but we are not the only players. Before embarking on certain types of research, we must ask ourselves critical questions about whether there are alternative ways to answer the research questions at hand. When no reasonable alternatives exist, we must take the scientific approach to making the argument for conducting such experiments before they are performed. The voluntary moratorium on the controversial issue of gain-of-function research related to the transmissibility of highly pathogenic H5N1 influenza virus is providing us the time and space we all need to work together and get this right, and it should be continued until we do so ( 5 ). Go to: NOTES

The views expressed in this Commentary do not necessarily reflect the views of the journal or of ASM. Go to: FOOTNOTES

Citation Fauci AS. 2012. Research on highly pathogenic H5N1 influenza virus: the way forward. mBio 3(5):e00359-12. doi:10.1128/mBio.00359-12.

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Articles from mBio are provided here courtesy of American Society for Microbiology (ASM)

[May 29, 2021] "Don't Think The Chinese Would Lie To You-"- Sen. Kennedy Pushes Fauci On Gain-Of-Function Research - YouTube

May 28, 2021 | www.youtube.com

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sixpoint3 , 20 hours ago

Fauci hasn't been there that long without seriously thinking through everything he says and does. His livelihood depends on it. At the same time I cannot help but think that he is d i s h o n e s t.

ArdaSu2008 , 16 hours ago

"We lied, cheated and stole." - Chinese (!) proverb.

Carolyn Lane , 1 hour ago

He's scared he's caught.He lies and cover's it up with another lie.

Aaron Speirs , 9 hours ago (edited)

Fauci's trust in the researchers granted $ is disturbing. "Trust:" Obstacle to his objectivity

Stephen Mitchell , 1 day ago

"In our experience with grantees..." Bottom line: the U.S.A. is broke. The dollar is worth less than a nickle compared with the pre-Federal Reserve dollar (1913). "Why are we giving money to the labs in China..." We should not be giving money to anyone - especially anyone who wants America dead.

Alex Emery , 9 hours ago

"There's no way of guaranteeing that" Enough said. I work on the 777. You verify EVERYTHING when doing ANYTHING. This is NOT an allowable excuse. Period.

Mike CR , 1 day ago

'Scientists' today are roughly MSM level of trustworthy. Both industries devoid of any ethics whatsoever.

Remy LeBeau , 1 day ago

5:42 silence is golden

Linda Carlson , 5 hours ago (edited)

I appreciate Sen Kennedy's effort to get answers but it seems to be like herding cats. It isnt going to happen. I dont know why those being questioned, especially in confirmation hearings, are not held in contempt of congress. They skirt answering questions when the senators present evidence, often in their own writings, of their life's work progressing radical agendas. Disheartening that many of the nominees appear to be anti-American.

J , 1 day ago (edited)

Well, I find Dr. Fauci's excuse is contradictory in itself. The bottom line: GOF research is the one that best serves the purpose of what Dr. Pauci said, and the lab had published the results. So it's very ridiculous of him to repeat that stance. Wasn't he a strong opponent to GOF research when it was about to be banned in the US?

[May 28, 2021] American Pravda: The Truth and the Whole Truth- About the Origins of Covid-19 by Ron Unz

Highly recommended!
The climate of fear that today governs much of our academic world, with future grant applications and even careers at risk if researchers depart from perceived orthodoxy on certain issues is a clear sign of Lysenkoism...
Those measures as well as control of scientific publications were "amazingly effective" in suppressing dissent and reaching desirable for authorities academic consensus.
Notable quotes:
"... Wall Street Journal ..."
"... Associated Press ..."
"... The Wall Street Journal ..."
"... The Associated Press ..."
"... The Wall Street Journal ..."
"... For decades, scientists have been hot-wiring viruses in hopes of preventing a pandemic, not causing one. But what if " ..."
"... New York Magazine ..."
"... New York Times, Science, ..."
"... Did people or nature open Pandora's box at Wuhan? ..."
"... as Wade demonstrates, that supposed consensus was largely illusory, having been shaped by two early items that appeared in prestigious scientific publications. On February 19, 2020, the Lancet ..."
"... Nature Medicine ..."
"... Wade notes that the former statement had actually been organized behind the scenes by Peter Daszak, an American closely associated with the Wuhan lab and therefore hardly a disinterested party, while the latter relied heavily upon very dubious scientific reasoning. ..."
"... Moreover, Wade also emphasizes the climate of fear that today governs much of our academic world, with future grant applications and even careers at risk if researchers depart from perceived orthodoxy on certain issues, perhaps including disputing the origins of Covid-19. He argues that although the Lancet ..."
"... Nature Medicine ..."
"... A Troublesome Inheritance ..."
"... We would also expect an animal virus that became dangerous to humans would require a lengthy series of intermediate mutational steps as it gradually evolved the ability to effectively infect our own species, just as had been the case with SARS and other previous diseases. But Covid-19 seems to have suddenly appeared in a maximally infectious form, perfectly pre-adapted to humans and apparently derived from a single original source. ..."
"... Finally, an important structural element of the virus, the "furin cleavage site," is entirely absent from all other members of its viral family ..."
"... Moreover, the particular genetic sequence found in that Covid-19 element is extremely rare in other coronaviruses, strongly suggesting that it was added from a different source. ..."
"... Exactly the same glaring omission is found in Wade's 11,000 word article. Taken together, Lemoine, Baker, and Wade have produced a large collection of high-quality articles on the origins of the global Covid-19 epidemic, but nowhere among their 54,000 words is there even a hint that the virus might possibly have had its origins in America's well-documented and lavishly funded biowarfare program. ..."
"... Associated Press ..."
"... Associated Press ..."
"... It therefore appears that elements of the Defense Intelligence Agency were aware of the deadly viral outbreak in Wuhan more than a month before any officials in the Chinese government itself. ..."
"... The New York Times Sunday Magazine ..."
"... Wall Street Journal ..."
May 10, 2021 | www.unz.com


As every fan of the old Perry Mason show remembers, courtroom witnesses swear "to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."

There's a reason for that particular choice of words. A pattern of selective omissions in an otherwise entirely truthful presentation can easily mislead us as much as any outright lie. And under certain circumstances, such omissions may be made necessary by powerful outside forces, so that even the most well-intentioned writer is faced with the difficult choice of either excluding certain elements from his analysis or having his important work denied a proper audience. I have sometimes faced this dilemma myself , but over the last few years, my lengthy American Pravda series has charted those gaping lacunae in our received accounts of modern world history, as I have sought to provide a historical counter-narrative of the last one hundred years .

Careful reexaminations of events from fifty or sixty years ago may be interesting, but those of the present day have far greater importance, and this is particularly true with regard to the Covid-19 epidemic that has engulfed the world since early 2020. Millions have already died, including many hundreds of thousands of Americans, with a newly released research study by the University of Washington's authoritative Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) now suggesting that our domestic death-toll has already exceeded 900,000. This global outbreak first began in Wuhan, and the nature of its origin has become a major flashpoint in the new Cold War between China and America, with the trajectory of that conflict having only slightly changed as Trump Neocons have been replaced by Biden Neocons at the helm of our foreign policy.

Two months ago I published a lengthy article summarizing much of the information from the first year of the outbreak and focusing upon the heated debate regarding the origins of the virus. Aside from the reports of the teams of investigative journalists at the New York Times , the Wall Street Journal , and the Associated Press , several very long articles by independent journalists and researchers have constituted my main sources of information, including:

How It All Started: China's Early Coronavirus Missteps

The Wall Street Journal " March 6, 2020 " 4,400 words China Didn't Warn Public of Likely Pandemic for 6 Key Days
The Associated Press " April 14, 2020 " 2,400 Words China's CDC, Built to Stop Pandemics Like Covid, Stumbled When It Mattered Most
The Wall Street Journal " August 17, 2020 " 4,500 Words The China Syndrome Part I: Outbreak The China Syndrome Part II: Transmission and Response The China Syndrome Part III: Wet Markets and BioLabs The China Syndrome Part IV: Did China Fudge its Data?
Philippe Lemoine " Quillette " August 24-September 6, 2020 " 31,000 Words The Lab-Leak Hypothesis

For decades, scientists have been hot-wiring viruses in hopes of preventing a pandemic, not causing one. But what if "
Nicholson Baker "New York Magazine "January 4, 2021 " 12,000 Words

This compendium of crucial research has now received a major addition, a 11,000 word analysis of the likely origins of Covid-19 by Nicholas Wade, a distinguished former science reporter and editor, who had spent more than four decades at the New York Times, Science, and Nature , and the author of several excellent books dealing with anthropology and evolutionary biology.

Origin of Covid "" Following the Clues Did people or nature open Pandora's box at Wuhan? Nicholas Wade " Medium " May 4, 2021 " 11,000 Words Suppressing Possible Artificial Origins as "a Conspiracy Theory"

The central focus of both Baker and Wade is indicated by their closely-related titles, namely the origins of the virus and whether it was the product of a laboratory, presumably the Wuhan Institute of Virology, then later released in a tragic accident. Both these authors strongly lean toward that latter possibility, but take somewhat different approaches. While Baker, a prominent novelist and liberal public intellectual, must rely upon general arguments or merely reports the opinions of the experts that he interviewed, Wade deploys his strong scientific background to build a persuasive case for that same conclusion.

From nearly the beginning of the epidemic, the position taken by the mainstream media had been that Covid-19 was very likely natural in origin, and although President Trump and some of his political allies soon loudly claimed otherwise, the perceived scientific consensus remained unchanged.

But as Wade demonstrates, that supposed consensus was largely illusory, having been shaped by two early items that appeared in prestigious scientific publications. On February 19, 2020, the Lancet had published a statement signed by 27 virologists and other noted scientists that declared: "We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin," and that "[scientists] overwhelmingly conclude that this coronavirus originated in wildlife." Then the following month Nature Medicine published an analysis by five virologists providing some theoretical arguments against any artificial origin, stating that: "Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus."

These published pieces became far more influential than was warranted. Wade notes that the former statement had actually been organized behind the scenes by Peter Daszak, an American closely associated with the Wuhan lab and therefore hardly a disinterested party, while the latter relied heavily upon very dubious scientific reasoning. But once these emphatic conclusions had appeared in influential periodicals, few microbiologists were willing to challenge this newly established orthodoxy, especially because doing so would have placed them in the same political camp as Trump, a much vilified figure in their community. Baker had earlier made similar criticism and I had fully endorsed his verdict in my own March article, but Wade's analysis provides far greater depth.

Moreover, Wade also emphasizes the climate of fear that today governs much of our academic world, with future grant applications and even careers at risk if researchers depart from perceived orthodoxy on certain issues, perhaps including disputing the origins of Covid-19. He argues that although the Lancet and Nature Medicine letters were actually political statements rather than scientific findings, they were "amazingly effective" in suppressing dissent and led the overwhelming majority of journalists to accept them as reflecting a research consensus that actually did not exist.

Wade's own personal experiences have surely informed this shrewd analysis of the underlying political dynamics. His most recent book A Troublesome Inheritance had appeared in 2014, and its subtitle "Genes, Race, and Human History" reflected the potentially explosive nature of his subject matter. Although I considered it an outstanding treatment of the controversial topic , Wade's work soon attracted a lynch-mob of critics, who organized a denunciatory public statement that they persuaded 139 prominent genetic scientists to sign. All these individuals were soon humiliated once it was proven that not a single one of them had actually bothered examining the true contents of the book that they were so fiercely attacking.

In the case of Covid-19, Wade demonstrates that once the political barriers have been removed and we are allowed to consider the evidence objectively, our conclusions are transformed. The scientific case for the natural origins of the virus becomes pitifully weak, thereby automatically elevating the competing lab-leak hypothesis, which had previously been denounced and stigmatized as a so-called "conspiracy theory."

For example, despite fifteen months of presumably intensive effort, the Chinese have failed to locate evidence of any wildlife population hosting a closely-related precursor virus, which had easily been found in the previous cases of emergent viral epidemics such as SARS and MERS. Indeed, the closest natural relative to Covid-19 only exists among bats in the caves of Yunnan, nearly 1,000 miles distant from the Wuhan outbreak.

We would also expect an animal virus that became dangerous to humans would require a lengthy series of intermediate mutational steps as it gradually evolved the ability to effectively infect our own species, just as had been the case with SARS and other previous diseases. But Covid-19 seems to have suddenly appeared in a maximally infectious form, perfectly pre-adapted to humans and apparently derived from a single original source.

Finally, an important structural element of the virus, the "furin cleavage site," is entirely absent from all other members of its viral family, and crucially contributes to its dangerously infectious nature. A natural origin for that structure seems implausible, while the scientific literature is replete with such additions having been made in laboratory experiments, including those conducted by the Wuhan researchers. Moreover, the particular genetic sequence found in that Covid-19 element is extremely rare in other coronaviruses, strongly suggesting that it was added from a different source.

The Excluded Third Possibility

Having now twice read Wade's long article, I can say that I find nearly all of his scientific arguments quite compelling, and I have almost no points of significant disagreement. Yet my overall conclusions are entirely different from his.

The explanation of this seeming paradox comes near the very beginning of his article, when he accurately states:

As many people know, there are two main theories about its origin. One is that it jumped naturally from wildlife to people. The other is that the virus was under study in a lab, from which it escaped.

A paragraph later, the text contains his first major section heading, entitled "A Tale of Two Theories."

Although Wade is absolutely correct in stating that "there are two main theories" about the origins of Covid-19, this duality has been enforced by political pressures quite similar to those that had earlier excluded discussion of the "lab-leak hypothesis," but with the sanctions being far harsher and more extreme.

Wade's analysis masterfully demonstrates that once we are actually willing to explore the much-vilified "conspiracy theory" of an accidental lab-leak, we discover that it is far more plausible than the case of a natural origin, partly because the latter appears so unlikely. And if these were the only two possible theories, all arguments against the one would necessarily support the other. But this framework is upended once we recognize that there is a third logical possibility, far more vilified and excluded than that of the "lab-leak hypothesis" but also far more plausible and supported by much stronger evidence.

In my March discussion of Baker's long article, I summarized how he first became involved in the topic, and described the crucial omission I had noticed in his 12,000 word opus:

Baker may not have been a professional virologist or expert in biowarfare, but as the Covid-19 outbreak began he had just completed Baseless , a lengthy non-fictional account of American national security secrets, which appeared to glowing reviews in July 2020. One of his major elements was an account of America's massive 1950s bioweapons research program, which had been accorded resources and importance matching that of our nuclear weapons efforts. Based upon his years of research, the author was not a complete neophyte on biological warfare issues and was also fully aware of our own long history of laboratory accidents, which had claimed a number of lives. So he was naturally alert to the possibility that a similar accident had occurred in Wuhan, which contained China's most secure facility of that same type.

The greatest weakness of Baker's comprehensive analysis is not the controversial theory that he carefully examines, but the even more controversial possibility that he seems to totally ignore. At one point, he notes the remarkable characteristics of the pathogen, whose collection of features allowed it to so effectively target humans and which had first appeared in a city having one of the very few world laboratories engaged in exactly that type of viral research, closing his paragraph with the sentence "What are the odds?" But other, even more implausible coincidences were entirely excluded from his discussion, and the same had also been true for Lemoine.

Both these authors seem to assume that there exist only two possible scenarios: a natural virus that suddenly appeared in Wuhan during late 2019 or an accidental lab-leak of an enhanced disease agent in that same city. But there is an obvious third case as well, clearly suggested by Baker's focus on America's own very active biowarfare program, which he extensively discussed both in his long article and in his highly-regarded book. We must surely consider the possibility that the Covid-19 outbreak was not at all accidental, but instead constituted a deliberate attack against China, occurring as it did near the absolute height of the international tension with America, and therefore suggesting that elements of our own national security apparatus were the most obvious suspects. Given the realities of the publishing industry, any serious exploration of such a scenario would probably have precluded the appearance of the important Baker or Lemoine articles in any respectable publication, perhaps helping to explain such silence. But as I have argued in my long American Pravda series , many historical accounts that were blacklisted for exactly those sorts of reasons appear quite likely to be true.

Exactly the same glaring omission is found in Wade's 11,000 word article. Taken together, Lemoine, Baker, and Wade have produced a large collection of high-quality articles on the origins of the global Covid-19 epidemic, but nowhere among their 54,000 words is there even a hint that the virus might possibly have had its origins in America's well-documented and lavishly funded biowarfare program. For several years, our newspapers have proclaimed that we are now locked into a new Cold War against China, with some risk that it might turn hot. But the obvious possible implications of the sudden, potentially-devastating outbreak of a dangerous viral epidemic in our leading international adversary remains unmentionable, too explosive even to dismissed or ridiculed, let alone carefully considered.

As I noted towards the end of my long March article:

I can easily understand why all these simple facts and their obvious implications regarding the likely origins of the worldwide epidemic might be considered extremely uncomfortable, perhaps too uncomfortable to be discussed in our media outlets, and therefore have been so widely ignored. Most of these crucial points were already presented in my original April 2020 article on the subject, which quickly began to attract enormous traffic and interest in social media. Yet just days after it ran, our entire website was suddenly banned from Facebook and all our web pages were deranked by Google, perhaps underscoring the very dangerous nature of this material, and the reasons why so few others have been willing to raise the same points.

The Strong Evidence for an American Biowarfare Attack

I find almost nothing to dispute in the comprehensive analyses provided by Lemoine, Baker, and Wade, but I do think my own work represents a crucial supplement to their research, given that I have primarily focused on that third possibility, a possibility that they were necessarily forced to avoid considering. Readers may judge for themselves, but I believe that my articles have demonstrated that the evidence supporting that excluded hypothesis is considerably stronger than that favoring either of those other two possibilities, whether the mainstream narrative of a natural virus or the much-vilified "conspiracy theory" of a lab-leak in Wuhan.

American Pravda: Our Coronavirus Catastrophe as Biowarfare Blowback?
Ron Unz " The Unz Review " April 21, 2020 " 7,400 Words American Pravda: Covid-19, Its Impact and Origins After One Year
Ron Unz " The Unz Review " March 15, 2021 " 8,700 Words

For convenience, I am excerpting substantial portions of my original April 2020 and my most recent March 2021 articles:

Although the coronavirus is only moderately lethal, apparently having a fatality rate of 1% or less, it is extremely contagious, including during an extended pre-symptomatic period and also among asymptomatic carriers. Thus, portions of the US and Europe are now suffering heavy casualties, while the policies adopted to control the spread have devastated their national economies. The virus is unlikely to kill more than a small sliver of our population, but we have seen to our dismay how a major outbreak can so easily wreck our entire economic life.

During January, the journalists reporting on China's mushrooming health crisis regularly emphasized that the mysterious new viral outbreak had occurred at the worst possible place and time, appearing in the major transport hub of Wuhan just prior to the Lunar New Year holiday, when hundreds of millions of Chinese would normally travel to their distant family homes for the celebration, thereby potentially spreading the disease to all parts of the country and producing a permanent, uncontrollable epidemic. The Chinese government avoided that grim fate by the unprecedented decision to shut down its entire national economy and confine 700 million Chinese to their own homes for many weeks. But the outcome seems to have been a very near thing, and if Wuhan had remained open for just a few days longer, China might easily have suffered long-term economic and social devastation.

The timing of an accidental laboratory release would obviously be entirely random. Yet the outbreak seems to have begun during the precise period of time most likely to damage China, the worst possible ten-day or perhaps thirty-day window. As I noted in January, I saw no solid evidence that the coronavirus was a bioweapon, but if it were, the timing of the release seemed very unlikely to have been accidental.

Consider also the preceding waves of other unfortunate viral epidemics that had recently ravaged China:

[D]uring the previous two years, the Chinese economy had already suffered serious blows from other mysterious new diseases, although these had targeted farm animals rather than people. During 2018 a new Avian Flu virus had swept the country, eliminating large portions of China's poultry industry, and during 2019 the Swine Flu viral epidemic had devastated China's pig farms, destroying 40% of the nation's primary domestic source of meat, with widespread claims that the latter disease was being spread by mysterious small drones. My morning newspapers had hardly ignored these important business stories, noting that the sudden collapse of much of China's domestic food production might prove a huge boon to American farm exports at the height of our trade conflict, but I had never considered the obvious implications. So for three years in a row, China had been severely impacted by strange new viral diseases, though only the most recent had been deadly to humans. This evidence was merely circumstantial, but the pattern seemed highly suspicious.

Another even more remarkable coincidence has received far greater distribution, becoming a staple of anti-American "conspiracy theories" and even resulting in a diplomatic incident involving the Chinese Foreign Ministry.

According to the widely accepted current chronology, the Covid-19 epidemic began in Wuhan during late October or early November of 2019. But the World Military Games were also held in Wuhan during that same period, ending in late October, with 300 American military servicemen attending. As I've repeatedly emphasized in my articles and comments for more than a year , how would Americans react if 300 Chinese military officers had paid an extended visit to Chicago, and soon afterward a mysterious and deadly epidemic had suddenly erupted in that city?

It surely would have been very easy for our intelligence services to have slipped a couple of their operatives into that large American military contingent, and the presence of many thousands of foreign military personnel, traveling around the large city and doing sightseeing, would have been ideally suited to providing cover for the quiet release of a highly-infectious viral bioweapon. None of this constitutes proof, but the coincidental timing is quite remarkable.

Biological warfare is a highly technical subject, and those possessing such expertise are unlikely to candidly report their classified research activities in the pages of our major newspapers, perhaps even less so after Prof. Lieber was dragged off to prison in chains. My own knowledge is nil. But in mid-March I came across several extremely long and detailed comments on the coronavirus outbreak that had been posted on a small website by an individual calling himself "OldMicrobiologist" and who claimed to be a retired forty-year veteran of American biodefense. The style and details of his material struck me as quite credible, and after a little further investigation I concluded that there was a high likelihood his background was exactly as he had described. I made arrangements to republish his comments in the form of a 3,400 word article , which soon attracted a great deal of traffic and 80,000 words of further comments.

Although the writer emphasized the lack of any hard evidence, he said that his experience led him to strongly suspect that the coronavirus outbreak was indeed an American biowarfare attack against China, probably carried out by agents brought into that country under cover of the Military Games held at Wuhan in late October, the sort of sabotage operation our intelligence agencies had sometimes undertaken elsewhere. One important point he made was that high lethality was often counter-productive in a bioweapon since debilitating or hospitalizing large numbers of individuals may impose far greater economic costs on a country than a biological agent which simply inflicts an equal number of deaths. In his words "a high communicability, low lethality disease is perfect for ruining an economy," suggesting that the apparent characteristics of the coronavirus were close to optimal in this regard. Those so interested should read his analysis and assess for themselves his credibility and persuasiveness.

Some of this same speculation eventually reached Chinese social media, and led to articles in Chinese government publications, which immediately provoked a very hostile response by Trump Administration officials.

This latter sequence of events is carefully recounted in a massive 17,000 word, 54 page report released a few weeks ago by DFRLab, a social media-oriented research unit within the establishmentarian Atlantic Council, with the work being based upon nine months of research and preparation by a dozen staffers, together with the Associated Press investigations team. The study seemed aimed at tracking the appearance and Internet dissemination of a wide range of supposedly false or unsubstantiated "conspiracy theories" regarding the Covid-19 outbreak, and AP journalists soon publicized the results , denouncing "the superspreaders" of such allegedly spurious and potentially dangerous beliefs.

Weaponized: How Rumors About Covid-19's Origins Led to a Narrative Arms Race
DFRLab/The Atlantic Council " February 2021 " 17,000 Words

But while this project did produce a very useful compendium of the chronology and source references of the various unorthodox narratives surrounding the disease, many of which were certainly erroneous or implausible, few effective rebuttal arguments were provided, notably regarding the extremely suspicious timing of the American military presence in Wuhan. Blogger Steve Sailer and others have often ridiculed this "point-and-sputter" school of refutation, in which non-mainstream theories need only be described in order to be considered conclusively disproved.

Although the Atlantic Council/Associated Press team certainly included numerous skilled social media researchers, journalists, and editors, there is no indication that any of these individuals possessed serious national security credentials, let alone specialized expertise in the arcane topic of biowarfare. This may help to explain why the weighty report which drew upon such enormous resources was almost entirely descriptive and made so little effort to analyze or evaluate the plausibility of the various conflicting "conspiracy narratives" that it treated at great length.

One further oddity of the very comprehensive DFRLab/Atlantic Council report was its own rather curious omissions. Given that its entire focus was on the full range of absurd "conspiracy theories," the authors naturally explored speculation regarding an American biowarfare attack, and attributed this theory partly to Kevin Barrett, whom the report characterized as "a US Holocaust denier who has also claimed that the September 11 attacks were an "˜inside job' by the George W. Bush Administration."

The resulting news story by its Associated Press partners prominently featured Barrett as one of the America's leading "super-spreaders" of Covid-19 conspiracy-nonsense. Yet Barrett's only real role had been to quote and endorse my own very substantial writings in that area, and although he unsuccessfully urged the AP journalists to contact me directly , my name was entirely absent from either the news articles or the lengthy underlying research report. Since my own writings had constituted the longest and most comprehensive presentation of the American Biowarfare Hypothesis, such an omission appears curious. I suspect that the editors concluded that any attack on me would bring my articles to much wider attention, and therefore ruled it out as being obviously counter-productive.

I find it highly unlikely that the DFRLab staffers were unaware of my existence. Their comprehensive report appeared in February 2021, and since it was based upon nine months of investigation, the project would have begun in May 2020. But on April 21, 2020, I had published my long original article making the case for an American biowarfare attack, and its rapidly growing popularity on Facebook only came to an end after the social media giant quickly banned our entire website, a sudden action that had been based upon a very doubtful report produced by that very same DFRLab team , with which Facebook has long partnered . Indeed this remarkable coincidence of timing raises the interesting possibility that the appearance of my article and its considerable popularity had actually prompted DFRLab to undertake its nine month investigation into the general subject of Covid-19 "conspiracy theories." Furthermore:

The extensive material collected by the Atlantic Council researchers lent further support to an important point I had made last April about the curious nature of the early Covid-19 coverage:

One intriguing aspect of the situation was that almost from the first moment that reports of the strange new epidemic in China reached the international media, a large and orchestrated campaign had been launched on numerous websites and Social Media platforms to identify the cause as a Chinese bioweapon carelessly released in its own country. Meanwhile, the far more plausible hypothesis that China was the victim rather than the perpetrator had received virtually no organized support anywhere, and only began to take shape as I gradually located and republished relevant material, usually drawn from very obscure quarters and often anonymously authored. So it seemed that only the side hostile to China was waging an active information war. The outbreak of the disease and the nearly simultaneous launch of such a major propaganda campaign may not necessarily prove that an actual biowarfare attack had occurred, but I do think it tends to support such a theory.

During January, American media outlets, including those under the authority of Secretary of State and former CIA Director Mike Pompeo, began focusing attention on the Wuhan lab as the potential source of the viral outbreak, while journalists disputing this narrative and attempting to raise other possibilities had serious difficulties even getting their articles published on alternative websites:

Scientific investigation of the coronavirus had already pointed to its origins in a bat virus, leading to widespread media speculation that bats sold as food in the Wuhan open markets had been the original disease vector. Meanwhile, the orchestrated waves of anti-China accusations had emphasized Chinese laboratory research on that same viral source. But we soon published a lengthy article by investigative journalist Whitney Webb providing copious evidence of America's own enormous biowarfare research efforts, which had similarly focused for years on bat viruses. Webb was then associated with MintPress News , but that publication had strangely declined to publish her important piece, perhaps skittish about the grave suspicions it directed towards the US government on so momentous an issue. So without the benefit of our platform, her major contribution to the public debate might have attracted relatively little readership.

All the evidence thus far presented has merely been circumstantial, strongly establishing that elements of the American national security establishment had the means, motive, and opportunity to stage a biowarfare attack in Wuhan. However, in April 2020 certain additional facts appeared that some have characterized as "smoking gun" proof of that disturbing scenario:

But with the horrific consequences of our own later governmental inaction being obvious, elements within our intelligence agencies have sought to demonstrate that they were not the ones asleep at the switch. Earlier this month, an ABC News story cited four separate government sources to reveal that as far back as late November, a special medical intelligence unit within our Defense Intelligence Agency had produced a report warning that an out-of-control disease epidemic was occurring in the Wuhan area of China, and widely distributed that document throughout the top ranks of our government, warning that steps should be taken to protect US forces based in Asia. After the story aired, a Pentagon spokesman officially denied the existence of that November report, while various other top level government and intelligence officials refused to comment. But a few days later, Israeli television mentioned that in November American intelligence had indeed shared such a report on the Wuhan disease outbreak with its NATO and Israeli allies, thus seeming to independently confirm the complete accuracy of the original ABC News story and its several government sources.

It therefore appears that elements of the Defense Intelligence Agency were aware of the deadly viral outbreak in Wuhan more than a month before any officials in the Chinese government itself. Unless our intelligence agencies have pioneered the technology of precognition, I think this may have happened for the same reason that arsonists have the earliest knowledge of future fires.

According to these multiply-sourced mainstream media accounts, by "the second week of November" our Defense Intelligence Agency was already preparing a secret report warning of a "cataclysmic" disease outbreak taking place in Wuhan. Yet at that point, probably no more than a couple of dozen individuals had been infected in that city of 11 million, with few of those yet having any serious symptoms. The implications are rather obvious. Furthermore:

As the coronavirus gradually began to spread beyond China's own borders, another development occurred that greatly multiplied my suspicions. Most of these early cases had occurred exactly where one might expect, among the East Asian countries bordering China. But by late February Iran had become the second epicenter of the global outbreak. Even more surprisingly, its political elites had been especially hard-hit, with a full 10% of the entire Iranian parliament soon infected and at least a dozen of its officials and politicians dying of the disease, including some who were quite senior . Indeed, Neocon activists on Twitter began gleefully noting that their hatred Iranian enemies were now dropping like flies.

Let us consider the implications of these facts. Across the entire world the only political elites that have yet suffered any significant human losses have been those of Iran, and they died at a very early stage, before significant outbreaks had even occurred almost anywhere else in the world outside China. Thus, we have America assassinating Iran's top military commander on Jan. 2nd and then just a few weeks later large portions of the Iranian ruling elites became infected by a mysterious and deadly new virus, with many of them soon dying as a consequence. Could any rational individual possibly regard this as a mere coincidence?

Summarizing the Evidence for a Biowarfare Attack and Outlining the Hypothetical Scenario

Most of the material quoted above had originally appeared in my April 2020 article and was afterwards extended and further discussed in my later pieces, the most recent appearing in March 2021. Taken together, they have been read at least a couple of hundred thousand times, and have provoked more than 500,000 words of comments. Yet the undeniable facts I presented have remained almost entirely excluded from the ongoing public debate, presumably for the practical political reasons I have suggested, so it is difficult to know exactly who has become aware of them.

Donald Trump's departure from the White House seems to have finally encouraged our timorous mainstream media organs to admit that their longstanding presumption of the entirely natural origin of Covid-19 might not be correct, and they have begun giving some consideration to the long-derided competing theory of a man-made virus released in an accidental lab-leak. But under these changed circumstances, I consider it entirely unreasonable if they continue ignoring that very real third possibility of an American biowarfare attack. The key pieces of evidence I have provided that favor this hypothesis over the competing lab-leak scenario may easily be summarized:

(1) For three years, China had been locked in growing conflict with America over trade and geopolitics, and for three years in a row, China had been hit very hard by mysterious viruses. An Avian Flu virus severely damaged its poultry industry in 2018 and the following year a Swine Flu virus destroyed over 40% of its pig herds, China's primary meat source. The third year, Covid-19 appeared. Certainly a suspicious pattern if the last were just a random lab-leak.

(2) The Covid-19 outbreak appeared at absolutely the worst time and place for China, the major transit hub of Wuhan, timed almost perfectly to reach high local levels of infection just as the travelers for the Lunar New Year holiday spread the disease to all other parts of the country, thereby producing an unstoppable epidemic. The timing of an accidental lab-leak would obviously be random.

(3) 300 American military servicemen had just visited Wuhan as part of the World Military Games, providing a perfect opportunity for releasing a viral bioweapon. Consider what Americans would think if 300 Chinese military officers had visited Chicago, and immediately afterwards a mysterious, deadly viral disease suddenly broke out in that city. It would be a strange coincidence if that the American military visit and an entirely unrelated accidental lab-leak had occurred at exactly the same time.

(4) The characteristics of Covid-19, including high communicability and low lethality, are absolutely ideal in an anti-economy bioweapon. It seems odd that a random lab-leak would release a virus so perfectly designed to severely damage the Chinese economy.

(5) From almost the very moment that the outbreak began, anti-China bloggers in America and the US-funded Radio Free Asia network had launched a powerful international propaganda offensive against China, claiming that the outbreak in Wuhan was due to the leak of an illegal bioweapon from the Wuhan lab. This may have merely been an exceptionally prompt but opportunistic response of our propaganda organs, but they seemed remarkably quick to take full advantage of an entirely unexpected and mysterious development, which they immediately identified as being due to a lab-leak.

(6) By "the second week of November" our Defense Intelligence Agency had already begun preparing a secret report warning of a "cataclysmic" disease outbreak in Wuhan although according to the standard timeline at that point probably only a couple of dozen people had started experiencing any symptoms of illness in a city of 11 million. How did they discover what was happening in Wuhan so much sooner than the Chinese government or anyone else?

(7) Almost immediately afterwards, the ruling political elites in Iran became severely infected, with many of them dying. Why did the accidental Wuhan lab-leak jump to the Iran's political elites so quickly, before it had reached almost anywhere else in the world.

Given the conclusions suggested above, I also think it would be useful for me to provide my own summary of a plausible scenario for the Covid-19 outbreak. Although I had already presented this outline in a September 2020 article , I see no need for any revisions. Obviously, this reconstruction is quite speculative, but I think it best fits all the available evidence, while individual elements may be modified, dropped, or replaced without necessarily compromising the overall hypothesis.

(1) Rogue elements within our large national security apparatus probably affiliated with the Deep State Neocons decided to inflict severe damage upon the huge Chinese economy using biowarfare. The plan was to infect the key transport hub of Wuhan with Covid-19 so that the disease would invisibly spread throughout the entire country during the annual Lunar New Year travels, and they used the cover of the Wuhan International Military Games to slip a couple of operatives into the city to release the virus. My guess is that only a relatively small number of individuals were involved in this plot.

(2) The biological agent they released was designed primarily as an anti-economy rather than an anti-personnel weapon. Although Covid-19 has rather low fatality rates, it is extremely contagious, has a long pre-symptomatic infectious period, and can even spread by asymptomatic carriers, making it ideally suited for that purpose. Thus, once it established itself throughout most of China, it would be extremely difficult to eradicate and the resulting efforts to control it would inflict enormous damage upon China's economy and society.

(3) As a secondary operation, they decided to target Iran's political elites, possibly deploying a somewhat more deadly variant of the virus. Since political elites generally tend to be elderly, they would anyway suffer far greater fatalities.

(4) The deadly SARS and MERS outbreaks in East Asia and the Near East had never significantly spread back to America (or Europe), so the plotters wrongly assumed that the same would be the case with Covid-19. Anyway, since international organizations always ranked the US and Europe as having the best and most effective public health systems for combating any disease epidemic , they believed that any possible blowback damage would be very minor.

(5) Only a small number of individuals were directly involved in this plot, and soon after the disease was successfully released in Wuhan, they decided to further safeguard America's own interests by alerting the appropriate units with the Defense Intelligence Agency, probably by fabricating some sort of supposed "intelligence leak." Basically, they arranged for the DIA to hear that Wuhan was apparently suffering a "cataclysmic" disease outbreak, thereby leading the DIA to prepare and distribute a secret report warning our own forces and allies to take appropriate precautions.

(6) Unfortunately for these plans, the Chinese government reacted with astonishing determination and effectiveness, and soon stamped out the disease. Meanwhile, the lackadaisical and incompetent American government largely ignored the problem, only reacting after the massive outbreak in Northern Italy had gotten media attention. Since the CDC had botched production of a testing kit, we had no means of recognizing that the disease was already spreading in our country, and the result was massive damage to America's economy and society. In effect, America suffered exactly the fate that had originally been intended for its Chinese rival.

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[May 28, 2021] Did COVID-19 Escape From a Lab: A Coronavirus Investigation by Nicholson Baker

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... In 1977, a worldwide epidemic of influenza A began in Russia and China; it was eventually traced to a sample of an American strain of flu preserved in a laboratory freezer since 1950 ..."
"... I asked Jonathan A. King, a molecular biologist and biosafety advocate from MIT, whether he'd thought lab accident when he first heard about the epidemic. "Absolutely, absolutely," King answered. Other scientists he knew were concerned as well. But scientists, he said, in general were cautious about speaking out. There were "very intense, very subtle pressures" on them not to push on issues of laboratory biohazards. Collecting lots of bat viruses, and passaging those viruses repeatedly through cell cultures, and making bat-human viral hybrids, King believes, "generates new threats and desperately needs to be reined in." ..."
"... And late in the month, a professor at National Taiwan University, Fang Chi-tai, gave a lecture on the coronavirus in which he described the anomalous R-R-A-R furin cleavage site. The virus was "unlikely to have four amino acids added all at once," Fang said "natural mutations were smaller and more haphazard," he argued. "From an academic point of view, it is indeed possible that the amino acids were added to COVID-19 in the lab by humans." ..."
"... In January 2015, the brand-new BSL-4 lab in Wuhan, built by a French contractor, celebrated its opening, but full safety certification came slowly. According to State Department cables from 2018 leaked to the Washington Post , the new BSL-4 lab had some start-up problems, including "a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory." The staff had gotten some training at a BSL-4 lab in Galveston, Texas, but they were doing potentially dangerous work with SARS-like viruses, the memo said, and they needed more help from the U.S. ..."
"... In November or December of 2019, the novel coronavirus began to spread. Chinese scientists initially named it "Wuhan seafood market pneumonia virus," but soon that idea went away. The market, closed and decontaminated by Chinese officials on January 1, 2020, was an amplifying hub, not the source of the outbreak, according to several studies by Chinese scientists. Forty-five percent of the earliest SARS-2 patients had no link with the market. ..."
"... A few years later, in a further round of "interspecies transfer" experimentation, Baric's scientists introduced their mouse coronavirus into flasks that held a suspension of African-green-monkey cells, human cells, and pig-testicle cells. Then, in 2002, they announced something even more impressive: They'd found a way to create a full-length infectious clone of the entire mouse-hepatitis genome. Their "infectious construct" replicated itself just like the real thing, they wrote . ..."
"... In 2006, Baric, Yount, and two other scientists were granted a patent for their invisible method of fabricating a full-length infectious clone using the seamless, no-see'm method. But this time, it wasn't a clone of the mouse-hepatitis virus "" it was a clone of the entire deadly human SARS virus, the one that had emerged from Chinese bats, via civets, in 2002. The Baric Lab came to be known by some scientists as "the Wild Wild West." In 2007, Baric said that we had entered "the golden age of coronavirus genetics." ..."
"... "I would be afraid to look in their freezers," one virologist told me. ..."
"... After SARS appeared in 2003, Ralph Baric's laboratory moved up the NIH funding ladder. SARS was a "dual use" organism "" a security threat and a zoonotic threat at the same time. In 2006, Baric wrote a long, fairly creepy paper on the threat of "weaponizable" viruses. Synthetic biology had made possible new kinds of viral "weapons of mass disruption," he wrote, involving, for example, "rapid production of numerous candidate bioweapons that can be simultaneously released," a scattershot terror tactic Baric called the ""‰"˜survival of the fittest' approach." ..."
"... In 2006, for instance, Baric and his colleagues, hoping to come up with a "vaccine strategy" for SARS, produced noninfectious virus replicon particles (or VRPs) using the Venezuelan-equine-encephalitis virus (another American germ-warfare agent), which they fitted with various SARS spike proteins. ..."
"... It could have happened in Wuhan, but "because anyone can now "print out" a fully infectious clone of any sequenced disease" it could also have happened at Fort Detrick, or in Texas, or in Italy, or in Rotterdam, or in Wisconsin, or in some other citadel of coronaviral inquiry. No conspiracy "" just scientific ambition, and the urge to take exciting risks and make new things, and the fear of terrorism, and the fear of getting sick. Plus a whole lot of government money. ..."
"... Project Bioshield began to fade by the end of the Bush administration, although the expensive high-containment laboratories, controversial preservers and incubators of past and future epidemics, remain. By 2010, some BioShield projects had dissolved into Obama's Predict program, which paid for laboratories and staff in 60 "risky areas for spillover" around the world. Jonna Mazet, a veterinary scientist from the University of California, Davis, was in charge of Predict, which was a component of USAID's "Emerging Pandemic Threats" program. Her far-flung teams collected samples from 164,000 animals and humans and claimed to have found "almost 1,200 potentially zoonotic viruses, among them 160 novel coronaviruses, including multiple SARS- and MERS-like coronaviruses." The fruits of Predict's exotic harvest were studied and circulated in laboratories worldwide, and their genetic sequences became part of GenBank , the NIH's genome database, where any curious RNA wrangler anywhere could quickly synthesize snippets of code and test out a new disease on human cells. ..."
"... Baric, Jonna Mazet, and Peter Daszak of EcoHealth worked together for years "" and Daszak also routed Predict money to Shi Zhengli's bat-surveillance team in Wuhan through his nonprofit, mingling it with NIH money and money from the U.S. Defense Threat Reduction Agency. In 2013, Mazet announced that Shi Zhengli's virus hunters, with Predict's support, had, for the first time, isolated and cultured a live SARS-like virus from bats and demonstrated that this virus could bind to the human ACE2, or "angiotensin-converting enzyme 2," receptor, which Baric's laboratory had determined to be the sine qua non of human infectivity. "This work shows that these viruses can directly infect humans and validates our assumption that we should be searching for viruses of pandemic potential before they spill over to people," Mazet said . ..."
"... In 2011, a tall , confident Dutch scientist, Ron Fouchier, using grant money from Fauci's group at NIH, created a mutant form of highly pathogenic avian influenza, H5N1, and passaged it ten times through ferrets in order to prove that he could "force" (his word) this potentially fatal disease to infect mammals, including humans, "via aerosols or respiratory droplets." Fouchier said his findings indicated that these avian influenza viruses, thus forced, "pose a risk of becoming pandemic in humans." ..."
"... This experiment was too much for some scientists: Why, out of a desire to prove that something extremely infectious could happen, would you make it happen? And why would the U.S. government feel compelled to pay for it to happen? Late in 2011, Marc Lipsitch of the Harvard School of Public Health got together with several other dismayed onlookers to ring the gong for caution. On January 8, 2012, the New York Times ..."
"... Anarchist's Cookbook ..."
"... Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences ..."
"... Scientific American ..."
"... This is the period in the story that demands a very close investigation, when chimeric assemblages may have been created and serially passaged, using BtCoV/4991, a.k.a. RaTG13, and other bat viruses, perhaps along with forms of the human virus. It's when Shi and Baric both published papers that were about what happened when you hot-swapped mutant spike proteins between bat viruses and human viruses. ..."
"... The link, via the renamed sample BtCoV/4991, to the copper mine is of exceptional importance because of the one huge difference between the unnamed guano shovelers' virus and the SARS-2 virus that is now ravaging, for example, California: transmissibility. Airborne human-to-human transmissibility "the kind of thing that gain-of-functioneers like Ron Fouchier and Ralph Baric were aiming at, in order to demonstrate what Baric called 'lurking threats' " is COVID-19's crucial distinguishing feature. If six men had gotten extremely sick with COVID-19 back in 2012 in southern China, doctors and nurses in the hospital where they lay dying would likely have gotten sick as well. There might have been hundreds or thousands of cases. Instead, only the shovelers themselves, who had breathed a heavy concentration of guano dust for days, got it. ..."
"... The existence of bat virus RaTG13 is therefore not necessarily evidence of a natural bat origin. In fact, it seems to me to imply the opposite: New functional components may have been overlaid onto or inserted into the RaTG13 genome ..."
"... This is where the uniquely peculiar furin insert and/or the human-tuned ACE2-receptor-binding domain may come in "although it's also possible that either of these elements could have evolved as part of some multistep zoonotic process." But in the climate of gonzo laboratory experimentation, at a time when all sorts of tweaked variants and amped-up substitutions were being tested on cell cultures and in the lungs of humanized mice and other experimental animals, isn't it possible that somebody in Wuhan took the virus that had been isolated from human samples, or the RaTG13 bat virus sequence, or both (or other viruses from that same mine shaft that Shi Zhengli has recently mentioned in passing), and used them to create a challenge disease for vaccine research "" a chopped-and-channeled version of RaTG13 or the miners' virus that included elements that would make it thrive and even rampage in people? And then what if, during an experiment one afternoon, this new, virulent, human-infecting, furin-ready virus got out? ..."
"... For more than 15 years, coronavirologists strove to prove that the threat of SARS was ever present and must be defended against, and they proved it by showing how they could doctor the viruses they stored in order to force them to jump species and go directly from bats to humans. More and more bat viruses came in from the field teams, and they were sequenced and synthesized and "rewired," to use a term that Baric likes. In this international potluck supper of genetic cookery, hundreds of new variant diseases were invented and stored. And then one day, perhaps, somebody messed up. It's at least a reasonable, "parsimonious" explanation of what might have happened. ..."
"... This may be the great scientific meta-experiment of the 21st century. Could a world full of scientists do all kinds of reckless recombinant things with viral diseases for many years and successfully avoid a serious outbreak? ..."
Jan 04, 2021 | nymag.com

A scientist named Shi Zhengli of the Wuhan Institute of Virology published a paper saying that the novel coronavirus was 96 percent identical to a bat virus, RaTG13, found in Yunnan province in southern China. On March 13, I wrote in my journal that there seemed to be something oddly artificial about the disease: "It's too airborne "" too catching "" it's something that has been selected for infectivity. That's what I suspect. No way to know so no reason to waste time thinking about it."

This was just a note to self "" at the time, I hadn't interviewed scientists about SARS-2 or read their research papers. But I did know something about pathogens and laboratory accidents; I published a book last year, Baseless , that talks about some of them. The book is named after a Pentagon program, Project Baseless, whose goal, as of 1951, was to achieve "an Air Force""wide combat capability in biological and chemical warfare at the earliest possible date."

A vast treasure was spent by the U.S. on the amplification and aerial delivery of diseases "" some well known, others obscure and stealthy. America's biological-weapons program in the '50s had A1-priority status, as high as nuclear weapons. In preparation for a total war with a numerically superior communist foe, scientists bred germs to be resistant to antibiotics and other drug therapies, and they infected lab animals with them, using a technique called "serial passaging," in order to make the germs more virulent and more catching.

And along the way, there were laboratory accidents. By 1960, hundreds of American scientists and technicians had been hospitalized, victims of the diseases they were trying to weaponize. Charles Armstrong, of the National Institutes of Health, one of the consulting founders of the American germ-warfare program, investigated Q fever three times, and all three times, scientists and staffers got sick. In the anthrax pilot plant at Camp Detrick, Maryland, in 1951, a microbiologist, attempting to perfect the "foaming process" of high-volume production, developed a fever and died. In 1964, veterinary worker Albert Nickel fell ill after being bitten by a lab animal.
His wife wasn't told that he had Machupo virus, or Bolivian hemorrhagic fever. "I watched him die through a little window to his quarantine room at the Detrick infirmary," she said.

In 1977, a worldwide epidemic of influenza A began in Russia and China; it was eventually traced to a sample of an American strain of flu preserved in a laboratory freezer since 1950. In 1978, a hybrid strain of smallpox killed a medical photographer at a lab in Birmingham, England; in 2007, live foot-and-mouth disease leaked from a faulty drainpipe at the Institute for Animal Health in Surrey. In the U.S., "more than 1,100 laboratory incidents involving bacteria, viruses and toxins that pose significant or bioterror risks to people and agriculture were reported to federal regulators during 2008 through 2012," reported USA Today in an expose published in 2014.

In 2015, the Department of Defense discovered that workers at a germ-warfare testing center in Utah had mistakenly sent close to 200 shipments of live anthrax to laboratories throughout the United States and also to Australia, Germany, Japan, South Korea, and several other countries over the past 12 years. In 2019, laboratories at Fort Detrick "" where "defensive" research involves the creation of potential pathogens to defend against "" were shut down for several months by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for "breaches of containment." They reopened in December 2019.

High-containment laboratories have a whispered history of near misses. Scientists are people, and people have clumsy moments and poke themselves and get bitten by the enraged animals they are trying to nasally inoculate. Machines can create invisible aerosols, and cell solutions can become contaminated. Waste systems don't always work properly. Things can go wrong in a hundred different ways.

Hold that human fallibility in your mind. And then consider the cautious words of Alina Chan, a scientist who works at the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard. "There is a reasonable chance that what we are dealing with is the result of a lab accident," Chan told me in July of last year. There was also, she added, a reasonable chance that the disease had evolved naturally "" both were scientific possibilities. "I don't know if we will ever find a smoking gun, especially if it was a lab accident. The stakes are so high now. It would be terrifying to be blamed for millions of cases of COVID-19 and possibly up to a million deaths by year end, if the pandemic continues to grow out of control. The Chinese government has also restricted their own scholars and scientists from looking into the origins of SARS-CoV-2. At this rate, the origin of SARS-CoV-2 may just be buried by the passage of time."

I asked Jonathan A. King, a molecular biologist and biosafety advocate from MIT, whether he'd thought lab accident when he first heard about the epidemic. "Absolutely, absolutely," King answered. Other scientists he knew were concerned as well. But scientists, he said, in general were cautious about speaking out. There were "very intense, very subtle pressures" on them not to push on issues of laboratory biohazards. Collecting lots of bat viruses, and passaging those viruses repeatedly through cell cultures, and making bat-human viral hybrids, King believes, "generates new threats and desperately needs to be reined in."

"All possibilities should be on the table, including a lab leak," a scientist from the NIH, Philip Murphy "" chief of the Laboratory of Molecular Immunology "" wrote me recently. Nikolai Petrovsky, a professor of endocrinology at Flinders University College of Medicine in Adelaide, Australia, said in an email, "There are indeed many unexplained features of this virus that are hard if not impossible to explain based on a completely natural origin." Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University, wrote that he'd been concerned for some years about the Wuhan laboratory and about the work being done there to create "chimeric" (i.e., hybrid) SARS-related bat coronaviruses "with enhanced human infectivity." Ebright said, "In this context, the news of a novel coronavirus in Wuhan ***screamed*** lab release."

III.


How Did It Get Out? 1. The Tongguan Mine Shaft in Mojiang, Yunnan, where, in 2013, fragments of RaTG13, the closest known relative of SARSCoV-2, were recovered and transported to the Wuhan Institute of Virology; 2. The Wuhan Institute of Virology, where Shi Zhengli's team brought the RaTG13 sample, sequenced its genome, then took it out of the freezer several times in recent years; 3. The Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention, which first reported signs of the novel coronavirus in hospital patients; 4. The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, an early suspected origin of the pandemic, where the first major outbreak occurred. Illustration: Map by Jason Lee ... ... ...\

Vincent Racaniello, a professor at Columbia and a co-host of a podcast called This Week in Virology , said on February 9 that the idea of an accident in Wuhan was "complete bunk." The coronavirus was 96 percent similar to a bat virus found in 2013, Racaniello said. "It's not a man-made virus. It wasn't released from a lab."

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That same month, a group of French scientists from Aix-Marseille University posted a paper describing their investigation of a small insertion in the genome of the new SARS-2 virus. The virus's spike protein contained a sequence of amino acids that formed what Etienne Decroly and colleagues called a "peculiar furin-like cleavage site" "" a chemically sensitive region on the lobster claw of the spike protein that would react in the presence of an enzyme called furin, which is a type of protein found everywhere within the human body, but especially in the lungs. When the spike senses human furin, it shudders, chemically speaking, and the enzyme opens the protein, commencing the tiny morbid ballet whereby the virus burns a hole in a host cell's outer membrane and finds its way inside.

The code for this particular molecular feature "" not found in SARS or any SARS-like bat viruses, but present in a slightly different form in the more lethal MERS virus "" is easy to remember because it's a roar: "R-R-A-R." The letter code stands for amino acids: arginine, arginine, alanine, and arginine. Its presence, so Decroly and his colleagues observed, may heighten the "pathogenicity" "" that is, the god-awfulness "" of a disease.

Botao Xiao, a professor at the South China University of Technology, posted a short paper on a preprint server titled "The Possible Origins of 2019-nCoV Coronavirus." Two laboratories, the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention (WHCDC) and the Wuhan Institute of Virology, were not far from the seafood market, which was where the disease was said to have originated, Xiao wrote "" in fact, the WHCDC was only a few hundred yards away from the market "" whereas the horseshoe bats that hosted the disease were hundreds of miles to the south. (No bats were sold in the market, he pointed out.) It was unlikely, he wrote, that a bat would have flown to a densely populated metropolitan area of 15 million people. "The killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan," Xiao believed. He urged the relocation of "biohazardous laboratories" away from densely populated places. His article disappeared from the server.

And late in the month, a professor at National Taiwan University, Fang Chi-tai, gave a lecture on the coronavirus in which he described the anomalous R-R-A-R furin cleavage site. The virus was "unlikely to have four amino acids added all at once," Fang said "natural mutations were smaller and more haphazard," he argued. "From an academic point of view, it is indeed possible that the amino acids were added to COVID-19 in the lab by humans."

When the Taiwan News published an article about Fang's talk, Fang disavowed his own comments, and the video copy of the talk disappeared from the website of the Taiwan Public Health Association. "It has been taken down for a certain reason," the association explained. "Thank you for your understanding."

"A Serious Shortage of Appropriately Trained Technicians"

In the spring , I did some reading on coronavirus history. Beginning in the 1970s, dogs, cows, and pigs were diagnosed with coronavirus infections; dog shows were canceled in 1978 after 25 collies died in Louisville, Kentucky. New varieties of coronaviruses didn't start killing humans, though, until 2003 "" that's when restaurant chefs, food handlers, and people who lived near a live-animal market got sick in Guangzhou, in southern China, where the shredded meat of a short-legged raccoonlike creature, the palm civet, was served in a regional dish called "dragon-tiger-phoenix soup." The new disease, SARS, spread alarmingly in hospitals, and it reached 30 countries and territories. More than 800 people died; the civet-borne virus was eventually traced to horseshoe bats .

Later, smaller outbreaks of SARS in Taiwan, Singapore, and China's National Institute of Virology in Beijing were all caused by laboratory accidents. Of the Beijing Virology Institute, the World Health Organization's safety investigators wrote , in May 2004, that they had "serious concerns about biosafety procedures." By one account, a SARS storage room in the Beijing lab was so crowded that the refrigerator holding live virus was moved out to the hallway. "Scientists still do not fully understand exactly where or how SARS emerged 18 months ago," wrote Washington Post reporter David Brown in June 2004. "But it is clear now that the most threatening source of the deadly virus today may be places they know intimately "" their own laboratories."

I'm just asking, Is it a complete coincidence that this outbreak happened in the one city in China with a BSL-4 lab?

MERS arose in 2012, possibly spread by camels that had contracted the disease from bats or bat guano, then passed it to human drinkers of raw camel milk and butchers of camel meat. It was an acute sickness, with a high fatality rate, mostly confined to Saudi Arabia. Like SARS, MERS ebbed quickly "it all but disappeared outside the Middle East, except for an outbreak in 2015 at the Samsung Medical Center in South Korea, where a single case of MERS led to more than 180 infections, many involving hospital workers."

In January 2015, the brand-new BSL-4 lab in Wuhan, built by a French contractor, celebrated its opening, but full safety certification came slowly. According to State Department cables from 2018 leaked to the Washington Post , the new BSL-4 lab had some start-up problems, including "a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory." The staff had gotten some training at a BSL-4 lab in Galveston, Texas, but they were doing potentially dangerous work with SARS-like viruses, the memo said, and they needed more help from the U.S.

In November or December of 2019, the novel coronavirus began to spread. Chinese scientists initially named it "Wuhan seafood market pneumonia virus," but soon that idea went away. The market, closed and decontaminated by Chinese officials on January 1, 2020, was an amplifying hub, not the source of the outbreak, according to several studies by Chinese scientists. Forty-five percent of the earliest SARS-2 patients had no link with the market.

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Take, for instance, this paper from 1995: "High Recombination and Mutation Rates in Mouse Hepatitis Viruses Suggest That Coronaviruses May Be Potentially Important Emerging Viruses." It was written by Dr. Ralph Baric and his bench scientist, Boyd Yount, at the University of North Carolina. Baric, a gravelly voiced former swim champion, described in this early paper how his lab was able to train a coronavirus, MHV, which causes hepatitis in mice, to jump species, so that it could reliably infect BHK (baby-hamster kidney) cell cultures. They did it using serial passaging: repeatedly dosing a mixed solution of mouse cells and hamster cells with mouse-hepatitis virus, while each time decreasing the number of mouse cells and upping the concentration of hamster cells. At first, predictably, the mouse-hepatitis virus couldn't do much with the hamster cells, which were left almost free of infection, floating in their world of fetal-calf serum. But by the end of the experiment, after dozens of passages through cell cultures, the virus had mutated: It had mastered the trick of parasitizing an unfamiliar rodent. A scourge of mice was transformed into a scourge of hamsters. And there was more: "It is clear that MHV can rapidly alter its species specificity and infect rats and primates," Baric said. "The resulting virus variants are associated with demyelinating diseases in these alternative species." (A demyelinating disease is a disease that damages nerve sheaths.) With steady prodding from laboratory science, along with some rhetorical exaggeration, a lowly mouse ailment was morphed into an emergent threat that might potentially cause nerve damage in primates. That is, nerve damage in us.

A few years later, in a further round of "interspecies transfer" experimentation, Baric's scientists introduced their mouse coronavirus into flasks that held a suspension of African-green-monkey cells, human cells, and pig-testicle cells. Then, in 2002, they announced something even more impressive: They'd found a way to create a full-length infectious clone of the entire mouse-hepatitis genome. Their "infectious construct" replicated itself just like the real thing, they wrote .

Not only that, but they'd figured out how to perform their assembly seamlessly, without any signs of human handiwork. Nobody would know if the virus had been fabricated in a laboratory or grown in nature. Baric called this the "no-see'm method," and he asserted that it had "broad and largely unappreciated molecular biology applications." The method was named, he wrote, after a "very small biting insect that is occasionally found on North Carolina beaches."

In 2006, Baric, Yount, and two other scientists were granted a patent for their invisible method of fabricating a full-length infectious clone using the seamless, no-see'm method. But this time, it wasn't a clone of the mouse-hepatitis virus "" it was a clone of the entire deadly human SARS virus, the one that had emerged from Chinese bats, via civets, in 2002. The Baric Lab came to be known by some scientists as "the Wild Wild West." In 2007, Baric said that we had entered "the golden age of coronavirus genetics."

"I would be afraid to look in their freezers," one virologist told me.

Baric and Shi Zhengli of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the two top experts on the genetic interplay between bat and human coronaviruses, began collaborating in 2015.

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After the 9/11 attacks, and the mysterious anthrax mailings that began a week later (which said, "TAKE PENACILIN [ sic ] NOW"‰/"‰DEATH TO AMERICA"‰/"‰DEATH TO ISRAEL"‰/"‰ALLAH IS GREAT"), the desire for biopreparedness became all consuming. Now there were emerging biothreats from humans as well as from the evolving natural world. Fauci's anti-terror budget went from $53 million in 2001 to $1.7 billion in 2003. Setting aside his work toward an AIDS vaccine, which was taking longer than he'd foreseen, Fauci said he would be going all out to defend against a suite of known Cold War agents, all of which had been bred and perfected in American weapons programs many years before "" brucellosis, anthrax, tularemia, and plague, for instance. "We are making this the highest priority," Fauci said. "We are really marshaling all available resources."

I would be afraid to look in their freezers.

Vaccine development had to progress much faster, Fauci believed; he wanted to set up "vaccine systems" and "vaccine platforms," which could be quickly tailored to defend against a particular emergent strain some terrorist with an advanced biochemistry degree might have thrown together in a laboratory. "Our goal within the next 20 years is "˜bug to drug' in 24 hours," Fauci said. "This would specifically meet the challenge of genetically engineered bioagents." The first Project BioShield contract Fauci awarded was to VaxGen, a California pharmaceutical company, for $878 million worth of shots of anthrax vaccine.

By 2005, so much money was going toward biothreat reduction and preparedness that more than 750 scientists sent a protest letter to the NIH. Their claim was that grants to study canonical biowar diseases "" anthrax, plague, brucellosis, and tularemia, all exceptionally rare in the U.S. "" had increased by a factor of 15 since 2001, whereas funds for the study of widespread "normal" diseases, of high public-health importance, had decreased.

Fauci was firm in his reply: "The United States through its leaders made the decision that this money was going to be spent on biodefense," he said. "We disagree with the notion that biodefense concerns are of "˜low public-health significance.'"‰"

In 2010, by one count, there were 249 BSL-3 laboratories and seven BSL-4 laboratories in the U.S., and more than 11,000 scientists and staffers were authorized to handle the ultralethal germs on the government's select pathogen list. And yet the sole bioterrorist in living memory who actually killed American citizens, according to the FBI "" the man who sent the anthrax letters "" turned out to be one of the government's own researchers. Bruce Ivins , an eccentric, suicidal laboratory scientist from Ohio who worked in vaccine development at Fort Detrick, allegedly wanted to boost the fear level so as to persuade the government to buy more of the patented, genetically engineered anthrax VaxGen vaccine, of which he was a co-inventor. (See David Willman's fascinating biography of Ivins, Mirage Man .) Fauci's staff at NIH funded Ivins's vaccine laboratory and gave $100 million to VaxGen to accelerate vaccine production. (The NIH's $878 million contract with VaxGen, however, was quietly canceled in 2006; Ivins, who was never charged, killed himself in 2008.)

"The whole incident amounted to a snake eating its own tail," wrote Wendy Orent in an August 2008 piece titled "Our Own Worst Bioenemy" in the Los Angeles Times . "No ingenious biowarrior from Al Qaeda sent the lethal envelopes through the U.S. postal system. An American scientist did." What confirmed Ivins's guilt, according to the FBI, was that there was a genetic match between the anthrax used in the killings and the strain held at Fort Detrick.

After SARS appeared in 2003, Ralph Baric's laboratory moved up the NIH funding ladder. SARS was a "dual use" organism "" a security threat and a zoonotic threat at the same time. In 2006, Baric wrote a long, fairly creepy paper on the threat of "weaponizable" viruses. Synthetic biology had made possible new kinds of viral "weapons of mass disruption," he wrote, involving, for example, "rapid production of numerous candidate bioweapons that can be simultaneously released," a scattershot terror tactic Baric called the ""‰"˜survival of the fittest' approach."

Baric hoped to find a SARS vaccine, but he couldn't; he kept looking for it, year after year, supported by the NIH, long after the disease itself had been contained. It wasn't really gone, Baric believed. Like other epidemics that pop up and then disappear, as he told a university audience some years later, "they don't go extinct. They are waiting to return." What do you do if you run a well-funded laboratory, an NIH "center of excellence," and your emergent virus is no longer actually making people sick? You start squeezing it and twisting it into different shapes. Making it stand on its hind legs and quack like a duck, or a bat. Or breathe like a person.

Baric's safety record is good "although there was a minor mouse-bite incident in 2016, uncovered by ProPublica" and his motives are beyond reproach: "Safe, universal, vaccine platforms are needed that can be tailored to new pathogens as they emerge, quickly tested for safety, and then strategically used to control new disease outbreaks in human populations," he wrote in a paper on public health. But the pioneering work he did over the past 15 years "generating tiny eager single-stranded flask monsters and pitting them against human cells, or bat cells, or gene-spliced somewhat-human cells, or monkey cells, or humanized mice " was not without risk, and it may have led others astray.

In 2006, for instance, Baric and his colleagues, hoping to come up with a "vaccine strategy" for SARS, produced noninfectious virus replicon particles (or VRPs) using the Venezuelan-equine-encephalitis virus (another American germ-warfare agent), which they fitted with various SARS spike proteins. Then, wearing Tyvek suits and two pairs of gloves each, and working in a biological safety cabinet in a BSL-3-certified laboratory, they cloned and grew recombinant versions of the original SARS virus in an incubator in a medium that held African-green-monkey cells. When they had grown enough virus, the scientists swapped out one kind of spike protein for a carefully chosen mutant, and they challenged their prototype vaccine with it in mice.

The scientists also tried their infectious SARS clones in something called an air-liquid interface, using a relatively new type of cell culture developed by Raymond Pickles of the University of North Carolina's Cystic Fibrosis Center. Pickles had perfected a method of emulating the traits of human airway tissue by cultivating cells taken from lung-disease patients "" nurturing the culture over four to six weeks in such a way that the cells differentiated and developed a crop of tiny moving hairs, or cilia, on top and goblet cells within that produced real human mucus. In fact, before infecting these HAE (human airway epithelial) cells with a virus, the lab worker must sometimes rinse off some of the accumulated mucus, as if helping the lab-grown tissue to clear its throat. So Baric was exposing and adapting his engineered viruses to an extraordinarily true-to-life environment "" the juicy, sticky, hairy inner surface of our breathing apparatus.

SARS-2 seems almost perfectly calibrated to grab and ransack our breathing cells and choke the life out of them. "By the time SARS-CoV-2 was first detected in late 2019, it was already pre-adapted to human transmission," Alina Chan and her co-authors have written, whereas SARS, when it first appeared in 2003, underwent "numerous adaptive mutations" before settling down. Perhaps viral nature hit a bull's-eye of airborne infectivity, with almost no mutational drift, no period of accommodation and adjustment, or perhaps some lab worker somewhere, inspired by Baric's work with human airway tissue, took a spike protein that was specially groomed to colonize and thrive deep in the ciliated, mucosal tunnels of our inner core and cloned it onto some existing viral bat backbone. It could have happened in Wuhan, but "because anyone can now "print out" a fully infectious clone of any sequenced disease" it could also have happened at Fort Detrick, or in Texas, or in Italy, or in Rotterdam, or in Wisconsin, or in some other citadel of coronaviral inquiry. No conspiracy "" just scientific ambition, and the urge to take exciting risks and make new things, and the fear of terrorism, and the fear of getting sick. Plus a whole lot of government money.

X.

"Risky Areas for Spillover"

Project Bioshield began to fade by the end of the Bush administration, although the expensive high-containment laboratories, controversial preservers and incubators of past and future epidemics, remain. By 2010, some BioShield projects had dissolved into Obama's Predict program, which paid for laboratories and staff in 60 "risky areas for spillover" around the world. Jonna Mazet, a veterinary scientist from the University of California, Davis, was in charge of Predict, which was a component of USAID's "Emerging Pandemic Threats" program. Her far-flung teams collected samples from 164,000 animals and humans and claimed to have found "almost 1,200 potentially zoonotic viruses, among them 160 novel coronaviruses, including multiple SARS- and MERS-like coronaviruses." The fruits of Predict's exotic harvest were studied and circulated in laboratories worldwide, and their genetic sequences became part of GenBank , the NIH's genome database, where any curious RNA wrangler anywhere could quickly synthesize snippets of code and test out a new disease on human cells.

Baric, Jonna Mazet, and Peter Daszak of EcoHealth worked together for years "" and Daszak also routed Predict money to Shi Zhengli's bat-surveillance team in Wuhan through his nonprofit, mingling it with NIH money and money from the U.S. Defense Threat Reduction Agency. In 2013, Mazet announced that Shi Zhengli's virus hunters, with Predict's support, had, for the first time, isolated and cultured a live SARS-like virus from bats and demonstrated that this virus could bind to the human ACE2, or "angiotensin-converting enzyme 2," receptor, which Baric's laboratory had determined to be the sine qua non of human infectivity. "This work shows that these viruses can directly infect humans and validates our assumption that we should be searching for viruses of pandemic potential before they spill over to people," Mazet said .

Daszak, for his part, seems to have viewed his bat quests as part of an epic, quasi-religious death match. In a paper from 2008, Daszak and a co-author described Bruegel's painting The Fall of the Rebel Angels and compared it to the contemporary human biological condition. The fallen angels could be seen as pathogenic organisms that had descended "through an evolutionary (not spiritual) pathway that takes them to a netherworld where they can feed only on our genes, our cells, our flesh," Daszak wrote . "Will we succumb to the multitudinous horde? Are we to be cast downward into chthonic chaos represented here by the heaped up gibbering phantasmagory against which we rail and struggle?"

XI.

"Lab-Made?"

There are, in fact, some helpful points of agreement between zoonoticists "those who believe in a natural origin of the SARS-2 virus" and those who believe that it probably came from a laboratory. Both sides agree, when pressed, that a lab origin can't be conclusively ruled out and a natural origin can't be ruled out either "because nature, after all, is capable of improbable, teleological-seeming achievements."

Both sides also agree, for the most part, that the spillover event that began the human outbreak probably happened only once, or a few times, quite recently, and not many times over a longer period. They agree that bat virus RaTG13 (named for the Rinolophus affinus bat, from Tongguan, in 2013) is the closest match to the human virus that has yet been found, and that although the two viruses are very similar, the spike protein of the bat virus lacks the features the human spike protein possesses that enable it to work efficiently with human tissue.

Zoonoticists hold that SARS-2's crucial features "" the furin cleavage site and the ACE2 receptor "" are the result of a recombinant event involving a bat coronavirus (perhaps RaTG13 or a virus closely related to it) and another, unknown virus. Early on, researchers proposed that it could be a snake sold at the seafood market "" a Chinese cobra or a banded krait ""but no: Snakes don't typically carry coronaviruses. Then there was a thought that the disease came from sick smuggled pangolins, because there existed a certain pangolin coronavirus that was, inexplicably, almost identical in its spike protein to the human coronavirus "" but then, no: There turned out to be questions about the reliability of the genetic information in that diseased-pangolin data set, on top of which there were no pangolins for sale at the Wuhan market. Then a group from China's government veterinary laboratory at Harbin tried infecting beagles, pigs, chickens, ducks, ferrets, and cats with SARS-2 to see if they could be carriers. (Cats and ferrets got sick; pigs, ducks, and most dogs did not.)

In September, some scientists at the University of Michigan, led by Yang Zhang, reported that they had created a "computational pipeline" to screen nearly a hundred possible intermediate hosts, including the Sumatran orangutan, the Western gorilla, the Olive baboon, the crab-eating macaque, and the bonobo. All these primates were "permissive" to the SARS-2 coronavirus and should undergo "further experimentational investigation," the scientists proposed.

Despite this wide-ranging effort, there is at the moment no animal host that zoonoticists can point to as the missing link. There's also no single, agreed-upon hypothesis to explain how the disease may have traveled from the bat reservoirs of Yunnan all the way to Wuhan, seven hours by train, without leaving any sick people behind and without infecting anyone along the way.

The zoonoticists say that we shouldn't find it troubling that virologists have been inserting and deleting furin cleavage sites and ACE2-receptor-binding domains in experimental viral spike proteins for years: The fact that virologists have been doing these things in laboratories, in advance of the pandemic, is to be taken as a sign of their prescience, not of their folly. But I keep returning to the basic, puzzling fact: This patchwork pathogen, which allegedly has evolved without human meddling, first came to notice in the only city in the world with a laboratory that was paid for years by the U.S. government to perform experiments on certain obscure and heretofore unpublicized strains of bat viruses "" which bat viruses then turned out to be, out of all the organisms on the planet, the ones that are most closely related to the disease. What are the odds?

In July, I discovered a number of volunteer analysts who were doing a new kind of forensic, samizdat science, hunched over the letter code of the SARS-2 genome like scholars deciphering the cuneiform impressions in Linear B tablets. There were the anonymous authors of Project Evidence, on GitHub, who "disavow all racism and violent attacks, including those which are aimed at Asian or Chinese people," and there was Yuri Deigin, a biotech entrepreneur from Canada, who wrote a massive, lucid paper on Medium, "Lab-Made?," which illumined the mysteries of the spike protein. Jonathan Latham of the Bioscience Resource Project, with his co-author Allison Wilson, wrote two important papers: one a calm, unsparing overview of laboratory accidents and rash research and the other a close look at the small outbreak of an unexplained viral pneumonia in a bat-infested copper mine in 2012. I corresponded with Alina Chan (now the subject of a nicely turned piece in Boston magazine by Rowan Jacobsen) and with the pseudonymous Billy Bostickson, a tireless researcher whose Twitter photo is a cartoon of an injured experimental monkey, and Monali Rahalkar, of the Agharkar Research Institute in Pune, India, who wrote a paper with her husband, Rahul Bahulikar, that also sheds light on the story of the bat-guano-shoveling men whose virus was remarkably like SARS-2, except that it was not nearly as catching. I talked to Rossana Segreto, a molecular biologist at the University of Innsbruck, whose paper , "Is Considering a Genetic-Manipulation Origin for SARS-CoV-2 a Conspiracy Theory That Must Be Censored?," co-authored with Yuri Deigin, was finally published in November under a milder title; it argued that SARS-2's most notable features, the furin site and the human ACE2-binding domain, were unlikely to have arisen simultaneously and "might be the result of lab manipulation techniques such as site directed mutagenesis." Segreto is also the person who first established that a bat-virus fragment named BtCoV/4991, identified in 2013, was 100 percent identical to the closest known cousin to SARS-CoV-2, the bat virus RaTG13, thereby proving that the virus closest to the SARS-2-pandemic virus was linked back not to a bat cave but to a mine shaft, and that this same virus had been stored and worked on in the Wuhan Institute for years. This made possible the first big investigative piece on SARS-2's origins, in the Times of London, in July: "Nobody can deny the bravery of scientists who risked their lives harvesting the highly infectious virus," the Times authors write. "But did their courageous detective work lead inadvertently to a global disaster?"

XII.

"A New, Non-Natural Risk"

In 2011, a tall , confident Dutch scientist, Ron Fouchier, using grant money from Fauci's group at NIH, created a mutant form of highly pathogenic avian influenza, H5N1, and passaged it ten times through ferrets in order to prove that he could "force" (his word) this potentially fatal disease to infect mammals, including humans, "via aerosols or respiratory droplets." Fouchier said his findings indicated that these avian influenza viruses, thus forced, "pose a risk of becoming pandemic in humans."

This experiment was too much for some scientists: Why, out of a desire to prove that something extremely infectious could happen, would you make it happen? And why would the U.S. government feel compelled to pay for it to happen? Late in 2011, Marc Lipsitch of the Harvard School of Public Health got together with several other dismayed onlookers to ring the gong for caution. On January 8, 2012, the New York Times published a scorcher of an editorial , "An Engineered Doomsday." "We cannot say there would be no benefits at all from studying the virus," the Times said. "But the consequences, should the virus escape, are too devastating to risk."

These gain-of-function experiments were an important part of the NIH's approach to vaccine development, and Anthony Fauci was reluctant to stop funding them. He and Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, along with Gary Nabel, NIAID director of vaccine research, published an opinion piece in the Washington Post in which they contended that the ferret flu experiments, and others like them, were "a risk worth taking." "Important information and insights can come from generating a potentially dangerous virus in the laboratory," they wrote; the work can "help delineate the principles of virus transmission between species." The work was safe because the viruses were stored in a high-security lab, they believed, and the work was necessary because nature was always coming up with new threats. "Nature is the worst bioterrorist," Fauci told a reporter. "We know that through history."

Soon afterward, there followed some distressing screwups in secure federal laboratories involving live anthrax, live smallpox, and live avian influenza. These got attention in the science press. Then Lipsitch's activists (calling themselves the Cambridge Working Group) sent around a strong statement on the perils of research with "Potential Pandemic Pathogens," signed by more than a hundred scientists. The work might "trigger outbreaks that would be difficult or impossible to control," the signers said. Fauci reconsidered, and the White House in 2014 announced that there would be a "pause" in the funding of new influenza, SARS, and MERS gain-of-function research.

Baric, in North Carolina, was not happy. He had a number of gain-of-function experiments with pathogenic viruses in progress. "It took me ten seconds to realize that most of them were going to be affected," he told NPR . Baric and a former colleague from Vanderbilt University wrote a long letter to an NIH review board expressing their "profound concerns." "This decision will significantly inhibit our capacity to respond quickly and effectively to future outbreaks of SARS-like or MERS-like coronaviruses, which continue to circulate in bat populations and camels," they wrote. The funding ban was itself dangerous, they argued. "Emerging coronaviruses in nature do not observe a mandated pause."

Hoping to smooth over controversy by showing due diligence, the National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity, founded in the BioShield era under President Bush, paid a consulting firm, Gryphon Scientific, to write a report on gain-of-function research, which by now was simply referred to as GoF. In chapter six of this thousand-page dissertation, published in April 2016, the consultants take up the question of coronaviruses. "Increasing the transmissibility of the coronaviruses could significantly increase the chance of a global pandemic due to a laboratory accident," they wrote.

The Cambridge Working Group continued to write letters of protest and plead for restraint and sanity. Steven Salzberg, a professor of biomedical engineering at Johns Hopkins, said, "We have enough problems simply keeping up with the current flu outbreaks "" and now with Ebola "" without scientists creating incredibly deadly new viruses that might accidentally escape their labs." David Relman of Stanford Medical School said, "It is unethical to place so many members of the public at risk and then consult only scientists "" or, even worse, just a small subset of scientists "" and exclude others from the decision-making and oversight process." Richard Ebright wrote that creating and evaluating new threats very seldom increases security: "Doing so in biology "" where the number of potential threats is nearly infinite, and where the asymmetry between the ease of creating threats and the difficulty of addressing threats is nearly absolute "" is especially counterproductive." Lynn Klotz wrote, "Awful as a pandemic brought on by the escape of a variant H5N1 virus might be, it is SARS that now presents the greatest risk. The worry is less about recurrence of a natural SARS outbreak than of yet another escape from a laboratory researching it to help protect against a natural outbreak." Marc Lipsitch argued that gain-of-function experiments can mislead, "resulting in worse not better decisions," and that the entire gain-of-function debate as overseen by the NIH was heavily weighted in favor of scientific insiders and "distinctly unwelcoming of public participation."

Nariyoshi Shinomiya, a professor of physiology and nano-medicine at the National Defense Medical College in Japan, offered this warning: "Similar to nuclear or chemical weapons there is no going back once we get a thing in our hands."

But in the end, Baric was allowed to proceed with his experiments, and the research papers that resulted, showered with money, became a sort of Anarchist's Cookbook for the rest of the scientific world. In November 2015, Baric and colleagues published a collaboration paper with Shi Zhengli titled "A SARS-like Cluster of Circulating Bat Coronaviruses Shows Potential for Human Emergence." Into a human SARS virus that they had adapted so that it would work in mice, Baric and Shi et al. inserted the spike protein of a bat virus, SHC014, discovered by Shi in southern China. They dabbed the mice nasally with virus and waited, looking for signs of sickness: "hunching, ruffled fur." They also infected human airway cells with the mouse-adapted bat-spike-in-a-human-virus backbone. In both mice and human airway cells, the chimeric virus caused a "robust infection."

This proved, Baric and Shi believed, that you did not need civets or other intermediate hosts in order for bats to cause an epidemic in humans and that therefore all the SARS-like viruses circulating in bat populations "may pose a future threat." Peter Daszak, who had used Predict funds to pay Shi for her work on the paper, was impressed by this conclusion; the findings, he said, "move this virus from a candidate emerging pathogen to a clear and present danger."

Richard Ebright was trenchantly unenthusiastic. "The only impact of this work," he said , "is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk."

Early in 2016, Baric and Shi again collaborated. Shi sent Baric a fresh bat virus spike protein, and Baric inserted it into the backbone of a human SARS virus and then used that infectious clone to attack human airway cells. "The virus readily and efficiently replicated in cultured human airway tissues, suggesting an ability to potentially jump directly to humans," reported the UNC's website. This time, they also used the bat-human hybrid virus to infect transgenic humanized mice that grew human ACE2 protein. The mice, young and old, lost weight and died, proving, again, that this particular bat virus was potentially "poised to emerge in human populations." It was "an ongoing threat," Baric wrote. But was it? Civets and camels that are exposed to a lot of bat-guano dust may be an ongoing threat and a manageable one. But the bats themselves just want to hang in their caves and not be bothered by frowning sightseers in spacesuits who want to poke Q-tips in their bottoms. This 2016 "poised for human emergence" paper was supported by eight different NIH grants. In 2015, Baric's lab received $8.3 million from the NIH; in 2016, it received $10.5 million.

Gain-of-function research came roaring back under Trump and Fauci. "The National Institutes of Health will again fund research that makes viruses more dangerous," said an article in Nature in December 2017. Carrie Wolinetz of the NIH's office of science policy defended the decision. "These experiments will help us get ahead of viruses that are already out there and pose a real and present danger to human health," she told The Lancet . The NIH, Wolinetz said, was committed to a leadership role with gain-of-function research internationally. "If we are pursuing this research in an active way, we will be much better positioned to develop protection and countermeasures should something bad happen in another country."

A reporter asked Marc Lipsitch what he thought of the resumption of NIH funding. Gain-of-function experiments "have done almost nothing to improve our preparedness for pandemics," he said, "yet they risked creating an accidental pandemic."

XIII.

"Proximity Is a Problem"

In April , four months into the coronavirus emergency, a deputy director at the NIH wrote an email to EcoHealth Alliance. "You are instructed to cease providing any funds to Wuhan Institute of Virology," it said. In response, Daszak and the chief scientific officer of New England Biolabs (a company that sells seamless gene-splicing products to laboratories, among other things) got 77 Nobel Prize winners to sign a statement saying that the cancellation deprived the "nation and the world of highly regarded science that could help control one of the greatest health crises in modern history and those that may arise in the future." Later, as a condition of further funding, the NIH wrote to say it wanted Daszak to arrange an outside inspection of the Wuhan lab and to procure from Wuhan's scientists a sample of whatever they'd used to sequence the SARS-2 virus. Daszak was outraged ("I am not trained as a private detective"), and again he fought back. He was reluctant to give up his own secrets, too. "Conspiracy-theory outlets and politically motivated organizations have made Freedom of Information Act requests on our grants and all of our letters and emails to the NIH," he told Nature . "We don't think it's fair that we should have to reveal everything we do."

But Daszak has survived "" even prospered. Recently, The Lancet made him the lead investigator in its inquiry into the origins of the pandemic, and the World Health Organization named him to its ten-person origins investigation. ("We're still close enough to the origin to really find out more details about where it has come from," Daszak told Nature .)

The NIH has also set up an ambitious new international program, called CREID, which stands for Centers for Research in Emerging Infectious Diseases, and it has put Daszak's EcoHealth in charge of trapping animals and looking for obscure bat viruses in Singapore, Malaysia, and Thailand. Baric is one of Daszak's partners in CREID. The virus hunting and collecting, which Richard Ebright likens to "looking for a gas leak with a lighted match," will continue and widen with U.S. funding. "We're going to work in remote parts of Malaysia and Thailand to get to the front line of where the next pandemic is going to start," Daszak told NPR.

In May, an interviewer from the People's Pharmacy website asked Baric if he had any thoughts on whether the coronavirus began with a natural bat-to-human transfer. "Or was there something a little bit more, perhaps, insidious involved?"

"Well, of course the answers to those questions are in China," Baric replied. "Exactly how they work in that facility is something that would be very difficult for a Westerner to know," he said. "The main problems that the Institute of Virology has is that the outbreak occurred in close proximity to that Institute. That Institute has in essence the best collection of virologists in the world that have gone out and sought out, and isolated, and sampled bat species throughout Southeast Asia. So they have a very large collection of viruses in their laboratory. And so it's "" you know "" proximity is a problem. It's a problem."

Over the course of the fall, and especially after the election muffled Donald Trump's influence over the country's public-health apparatus, that proximity problem "" and the uncomfortable questions of origins it raised "" began to grow somewhat more discussable. The BBC, Le Monde , and Italy's RAI have all recently taken seriously the scientific possibility of a lab leak. In late October, the World Health Organization convened the first meeting of its second inquiry into the origins of the disease. The WHO's effort is perhaps the world's best chance to satisfy its curiosity about goings-on at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and at the Wuhan CDC's virus lab near the Wuhan seafood market. But, as the New York Times has reported , the WHO's information gathering has been hindered by Chinese secretiveness since February, when an initial investigative team sent to Beijing was told its members' access to scientists would be restricted and that it couldn't visit the seafood market, then considered a hub of the pandemic.

When a BBC video team tried to inspect the Yunnan mine shaft, they found the road to the mine blocked by a strategically parked truck that had "broken down" shortly before they arrived. Reporter John Sudworth asked Daszak, one of the ten members of the second WHO investigative team, whether he would push for access to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. "That's not my job to do that," Daszak replied.

In November, David Relman, the Stanford microbiologist, one of the most thoughtful of the voices warning against gain-of-function research, published a paper in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on the urgent need to unravel the origins of COVID-19. "If SARS-CoV-2 escaped from a lab to cause the pandemic," he wrote, "it will become critical to understand the chain of events and prevent this from happening again." Conflicts of interest by researchers and administrators will need to be addressed, Relman wrote; to reach the truth, the investigation must be transparent, international, and, as much as possible, unpolitical. "A more complete understanding of the origins of COVID-19 clearly serves the interests of every person in every country on this planet."

"The world is sitting on a precedent-setting decision right now," wrote Alina Chan on December 8. "It is unclear if SARS2 is 100 percent natural or emerged due to lab/research activities. If we walk away from this, demonstrating that we cannot effectively investigate its origins, it will pave the way for future COVIDS."

Just before this issue of New York went to press, I reached Ralph Baric by phone and asked him where he now believed SARS-2 came from. (Anthony Fauci, Shi Zhengli, and Peter Daszak didn't respond to emails, and Kristian Andersen said he was busy with other things.) Baric said he still thought the virus came from bats in southern China, perhaps directly, or possibly via an intermediate host, although the smuggled pangolins, in his view, were a red herring. The disease evolved in humans over time without being noticed, he suspected, becoming gradually more infectious, and eventually a person carried it to Wuhan "and the pandemic took off." Then he said, "Can you rule out a laboratory escape? The answer in this case is probably not."

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Transmission

So how did we actually get this disease?

Here's what I think happened. In April 2012, in a copper mine in Mojiang, China, three men were given an awful job "" they were told to shovel bat guano out of a mine shaft. They went to work and shoveled guano for seven hours a day in the confined, insufficiently ventilated space of the mine shaft, and by the end of the week, they were sick with a viral pneumonia of unknown etiology. Three more, younger shovelers were hired to replace the ones who were out sick.

The viral load in their lungs was so huge, because of all the guano dust, that their lungs became a kind of accelerated laboratory passaging experiment, as Jonathan Latham and Allison Wilson have written, forcing the virus to switch its allegiance from bats to humans. SARS experts were consulted, and the disease was judged to be SARS-like but not SARS. It was something new. (Shi Zhengli told Scientific American that the guano shovelers had died of a fungal disease, but, as Monali Rahalkar pointed out, they were treated with antivirals, and their symptoms were consistent with viral pneumonia with attendant secondary fungal infections.)

Although it was a severe disease, and in the end three of the shovelers died, there was no resultant epidemic. It was actually a case of industrial overexposure to an infectious substance "" what we might call a massive OSHA violation. The bat disease that the men encountered wasn't necessarily all that dangerous except in an environment of immunosuppressive overload.

Peter Daszak and Shi Zhengli were interested, of course, because this unidentified coronavirus disease involved bats and people. Of the fragmentary bits of virus Shi retrieved from the mine shaft, one was SARS-like, and Shi sequenced it and called it BtCoV/4991 and published a paper about it. Several times "in 2016 and 2018 and 2019" this most interesting sample, a portion of what we now know as RaTG13, was taken out of the freezers in Shi's lab and worked on in undisclosed ways. (Peter Daszak claims that these samples have disintegrated and can't be validated or studied.) Samples of the nameless human disease also traveled back to the Wuhan Institute of Virology few specifics about these valuable specimens have been released by Chinese sources, however.

This is the period in the story that demands a very close investigation, when chimeric assemblages may have been created and serially passaged, using BtCoV/4991, a.k.a. RaTG13, and other bat viruses, perhaps along with forms of the human virus. It's when Shi and Baric both published papers that were about what happened when you hot-swapped mutant spike proteins between bat viruses and human viruses.

The link, via the renamed sample BtCoV/4991, to the copper mine is of exceptional importance because of the one huge difference between the unnamed guano shovelers' virus and the SARS-2 virus that is now ravaging, for example, California: transmissibility. Airborne human-to-human transmissibility "the kind of thing that gain-of-functioneers like Ron Fouchier and Ralph Baric were aiming at, in order to demonstrate what Baric called 'lurking threats' " is COVID-19's crucial distinguishing feature. If six men had gotten extremely sick with COVID-19 back in 2012 in southern China, doctors and nurses in the hospital where they lay dying would likely have gotten sick as well. There might have been hundreds or thousands of cases. Instead, only the shovelers themselves, who had breathed a heavy concentration of guano dust for days, got it.

The existence of bat virus RaTG13 is therefore not necessarily evidence of a natural bat origin. In fact, it seems to me to imply the opposite: New functional components may have been overlaid onto or inserted into the RaTG13 genome, new Tinkertoy intermolecular manipulations, especially to its spike protein, which have the effect of making it unprecedentedly infectious in human airways.

This is where the uniquely peculiar furin insert and/or the human-tuned ACE2-receptor-binding domain may come in "although it's also possible that either of these elements could have evolved as part of some multistep zoonotic process." But in the climate of gonzo laboratory experimentation, at a time when all sorts of tweaked variants and amped-up substitutions were being tested on cell cultures and in the lungs of humanized mice and other experimental animals, isn't it possible that somebody in Wuhan took the virus that had been isolated from human samples, or the RaTG13 bat virus sequence, or both (or other viruses from that same mine shaft that Shi Zhengli has recently mentioned in passing), and used them to create a challenge disease for vaccine research "" a chopped-and-channeled version of RaTG13 or the miners' virus that included elements that would make it thrive and even rampage in people? And then what if, during an experiment one afternoon, this new, virulent, human-infecting, furin-ready virus got out?

For more than 15 years, coronavirologists strove to prove that the threat of SARS was ever present and must be defended against, and they proved it by showing how they could doctor the viruses they stored in order to force them to jump species and go directly from bats to humans. More and more bat viruses came in from the field teams, and they were sequenced and synthesized and "rewired," to use a term that Baric likes. In this international potluck supper of genetic cookery, hundreds of new variant diseases were invented and stored. And then one day, perhaps, somebody messed up. It's at least a reasonable, "parsimonious" explanation of what might have happened.

This may be the great scientific meta-experiment of the 21st century. Could a world full of scientists do all kinds of reckless recombinant things with viral diseases for many years and successfully avoid a serious outbreak? The hypothesis was that, yes, it was doable. The risk was worth taking. There would be no pandemic.

I hope the vaccine works.

*This article appears in the January 4, 2021, issue of New York Magazine. Subscribe Now!

[May 28, 2021] Rand Paul Glad that Fauci Is Finally Accepting Science

Fauci is a reincarnations of Academisian Lysenko in much more sinister and dangerous form. He is a political hack masquerading as bioscience researcher.
May 20, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News,

Senator Rand Paul says he's glad White House medical advisor Anthony Fauci is dropping the mask theater, and is finally accepting science.

Paul has repeatedly clashed with Fauci, with the latter at first denying that masks are just for optics, and then admitting that is exactly the case this week.

Appearing on Newsmax TV, Paul said "I'm just glad that Dr. Fauci has now chosen to accept vaccine science "" basic vaccine science says you can't get it after you've been vaccinated; that's why we get vaccinated."

He was performing theater, wearing masks because he didn't want people to see him without a mask," Paul noted, adding "It wasn't the masks worked or that he needed it. You heard the way he phrased it. He didn't want someone to see him without the mask. So, really, it was theater."

"If we send them a signal that they're just making up this science and they're treating us like imbeciles, and they're doing things for show, it actually discourages some of the people who are hesitant to get vaccinated," Paul further argued.

When it comes to vaccines, the Senator said that it should be up to Americans whether or not they get the shot, and there shouldn't be any mandatory decree.

"I think high-risk people should, voluntarily; I wouldn't tell anybody they had to," Paul emphasised, adding "I wouldn't be out there telling 12-year-olds we're not going to let you go to summer camp or we're not going to let you go to school or get on a plane unless you're vaccinated."

"We need to really not treat this as a one-size fits all. This really should be individualized, and that's way healthcare should be in a free society," The Senator further urged.

Watch:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/9SOpZmTnuYQ

Paul again addressed Fauci's misinformation and months-long mask theater in a later interview with Fox Business:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/6ImMsY1is3Q


philipat 14 hours ago (Edited)

Fauxci is now making a strategic withdrawal on masks to divert attention away from his responsibility for the illegal NIH funding of the gain of function research at WIV - where he is using the oldest bureaucrat trick in the book, "it wasn't me!!" (because he obfuscated it by using a third party to attempt to create "plausible deniability").

Rand Paul should not let him get away with that because he should understand that Grants to third parties are subject to TOR, progress reports and defined "Deliverables" - reported against in the final report. So Fauxci will have been fully informed throughout.

The virus source issue and illegal funding is the ONE thing that MIGHT get him busted; and he knows it. Don't let it drop Senator!!

asteroids 10 hours ago

That wasn't theatre, Fauci was LYING to you. That's what fraudsters do.

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BigJJ 10 hours ago

And he killed many more than that with him steering funds to gain of function "research" under the Obama regime for his genocidal white man wannabe master in the White House.

Lordflin 14 hours ago remove link

If I were Fauci I would be looking to go underground...

Wilde1 8 hours ago

More before that too...

Dr Fauci: 40 Years of Lies from AZT to Remdesivir

https://principia-scientific.com/dr-fauci-40-years-of-lies-from-azt-to-remdesivir/

VideoEng_NC 12 hours ago remove link

Dr Sen Paul needs to follow up with the fact that Fauci lied under oath in that senate hearing. If the weasel Keebler Elf word salads his way around "intent" then he needs to be accused of incompetence. Fact is Fauci lied, is incompetent & most importantly, is a criminal against humanity.

rockstone 12 hours ago (Edited)

You and I are on the same page but Fauci is far from "incompetent." He helped engineer and front one of the biggest and most dangerous scams in history. It's just you can only keep up the front so long. I try, it's hard but I try, to never see these people as dumb, or idiots, or stupid. They aren't Fredo. They're crazy like foxes and flat out evil and....... this time they succeeded. You're correct that he is a vicious criminal. He should hang from a lamppost.

russellthetreeman PREMIUM 14 hours ago (Edited)

Apparently the cdc has recently admitted only 6% of covid deaths were actually caused by covid. All others had serious co-morbidities...it's all been theatre. Or flat out lies. Depends how you look at it I guess, LOL!

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Al Jolson 14 hours ago

Fauci should be hanged for what he's done.

when is Summit News or ZH going to report on the tens of thousands of deaths and serious adverse events directly associated with this injection?

https://youtu.be/bMY2tdFNkRU

the CDC is altering its protocol to hide break through infections, that is, infections of those who've taken the injection:

https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/cdc-is-manipulating-data-to-hide-breakthrough-cases-and-blame-unvaccinated-for-outbreaks/


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philipat 14 hours ago remove link

I've asked that here almost every day for months!!

It doesn't make medical sense to "vaccinate" people who are already immune (variously estimated as up to 80% - think the Diamond Princess) and it is unethical to "vaccinate" pregnant women and children. It also makes more medical sense to issue "Passports" to those with natural immunity because they are truly long-term immune and cannot transmit. In contarst, neither applies to "vaccinated" people who are shedding" spike proteins (being produced irreversibly in huge volumes) and causing problems in the unvaccinated because it is the spike proteins that cause the AEs.

So, in view of all of the above it is clear that the obsession with "vaccinating" every man, woman and child has NOTHING to do with "Public Health".

freedommusic 13 hours ago remove link

Dr. Anthony Fauci lacks knowledge of medicine and is willing to lie on television.

""Kary Mullis, PCR inventor, 1993 Nobel Prize

Died August 7, 2019

SacredCowPies 13 hours ago

... petition filed in India's Supreme Court by Dr Jacob Puliyel , a former member of the National Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation , also prayed that the court may declare vaccination mandates as unconstitutional.

https://in.news.yahoo.com/plea-sc-seeks-disclosure-clinical-094223689.html

Wilde1 14 hours ago remove link

Paul said "I'm just glad that Dr. Fauci has now chosen to accept vaccine science "" basic vaccine science says you can't get it after you've been vaccinated; that's why we get vaccinated."

There's your outright lie and propaganda. Just get "vaccinated" with the experimental gene therapy and other concoctions because then you don't need a mask...

It has long been known that the vaccinated test positive.

Feb 26, 2021

In the days and weeks after Covid-19 vaccines became available, healthcare professionals observed that some vaccinated individuals tested positive by both PCR and rapid antigen tests

https://www.forbes.com/sites/coronavirusfrontlines/2021/02/26/could-vaccination-cause-me-to-test-positive-for-covid-19/?sh=6ed347e538b3

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russellthetreeman PREMIUM 14 hours ago

I worked at a university for almost 7 years and it's ALL about funding, seriously that's ALL anyone talked about was getting funding and getting people to apply for grant writing gigs to get funding. They absolutely do what's asked of them for funding.

GreatUncle 12 hours ago

Tells you that scientists are not those who should be trusted because a nice paycheck makes you disregard science.

Proven through this pandemic, also proven with much of the global warming BS too.

Scientists sold out ... if anybody says I am a scientist ask them if they sold out their specialist area too!

seryanhoj 11 hours ago (Edited)

Here's how;-

""Of course the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?
Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany.
That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

Herman Goering

Sign Felled 14 hours ago remove link

It's NEVER been about the science. I wish respected scientists and researchers around the world would stand up and condemn gov'ts for invoking "science" in the name of politics. Otherwise, I fear the scientific process will forever be lost and the conclusions drawn from the process will never be trusted again. Sadly, I don't hold out much hope that will happen. Many of these previously respected scientists have been complicit in politicizing their own discipline.

[May 28, 2021] Rand Paul- -Fauci Cannot Investigate Himself; Get Him Under Oath- - ZeroHedge

May 27, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Rand Paul: "Fauci Cannot Investigate Himself; Get Him Under Oath" BY TYLER DURDEN THURSDAY, MAY 27, 2021 - 09:55 AM

Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News,

Senator Rand Paul, who has spearheaded the renewed push to investigate the origin of the coronavirus pandemic, has called for Dr Fauci to be placed under oath and made to testify about the murky "˜gain of function' research he was involved with funding at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

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Paul also urged that Fauci "needs to be excluded from the investigation " because he is too deeply involved in the whole thing.

Appearing on Fox News, Paul spoke about the funding that Fauci and the NIH supplied to China.

"Well, sure it's a lot. And there are some reports that it added up to millions over time. But the other thing he said was that there was no gain of function in the application. There are scientists who looked at the application and who absolutely and categorically disagree with him," Paul noted.

"The other evidence that we have is Dr. Shi from the Wuhan lab published a paper that is clearly about gain of function and it that she thanks her group and Dr. Fauci for funding that paper. So there are a lot of contradictions going on," Paul added.

"I think Dr. Fauci should be made to testify under oath about the money that was given to the lab," Paul said, adding "The good news is yesterday I passed an amendment on the Senate floor that says no more gain of function money can be sent to China."

"The bottom line, he cannot investigate himself. If he was responsible for giving this money. He has every incentive to cover it up and not reveal the truth about it because if the pandemic did come from the lab, he would have great culpability in this," Paul further emphasised.

The Senator, who continues to receive death threats after being so vocal against Fauci, added that "he can't be investigating this, nor can any of his people that he picks be investigating this. He needs to be excluded from the investigation."

"This is very important because this could happen again," Paul warned, adding "I mean, they are experimenting with the SARS virus, which is 15 times more deadly than COVID-19. COVID-19 kills 1%"¦ more than 3 million people. If SARS got out of the lab, that could be 50 million people. This is a very important task ahead of us. We have 11 labs in our country that do this kind of research."

Watch:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/FIYWc4y2Zy0

In a separate appearance on the Christian Broadcasting Network on Tuesday, Paul called for Fauci to be fired , asserting "The nicest way to say this, I think he's obfuscating the truth."

After denying for months there was even any gain of function research going on at the Wuhan lab or that it was being funded by the US, Fauci completely reversed his position, admitting that there was "˜modest' funding of the research, leading Paul to accuse Fauci of "˜perjury'.

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The results of the US-backed gain of function research at Wuhan was published in 2017 under the heading, " Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus ."

Fauci has come under increased scrutiny as the NIH's involvement with the $3.7 million grant to the Wuhan Institute is further being called into question.

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Lordflin 11 hours ago (Edited)

If Fauci goes down it will be because others higher up on the food chain decided to throw him under the bus... and it will have nothing at all to do with some show of justice...

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HellFish 11 hours ago remove link

Oath? Why? The deep staters always lie to congress and congress does nothing.

ohm 10 hours ago

Fauci, Birx, Pelosi, AOC, Schiff, Schumer, Romney, Collins, Graham, Murkowski - too many to list individually. All whores and fronts for the 0.1%

Flying Monkees 11 hours ago remove link

Why were these psychopaths doing "gain of function" research in the first place?

What could be the possible benefit other than the creation of bio-weapons?

All those involved are guilty of mass murder and should be executed.

JohnGaltsChild 11 hours ago remove link

Fauci is a loyal member of the protected class.

He walks.

charrington's deceit 10 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Gain of function research funding was supposed to be halted in 2014 in the US. It doesn't mean that gain-of-function research itself was to be halted and this is why the lab leak theory has been so discredited. However, it looks like the NIH funded the Wuhan lab where gain-of-function was allowed to continue in China. If this eventually comes out, then this issue should be considered a crime against humanity and those responsible should sit trial at the Hauge.

Here is where the obfuscation starts:

Though funding was halted, ongoing research in NORTH CAROLINA was allowed to continue through 2015 where they did create a new, non-natural risk .

This new lab-created coronavirus was NOT the origins of COVID, bit IT IS the origins of providing cover to discredit the lab leak theory because all of the media kept using the term "lab-created" when COVID-19 was actually a naturally occurring coronavirus that was merely "lab-augmented."

These words matter as evidenced by this March 2020 editors' note of a 2015 Nature article: Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research

Editors' note, March 2020: We are aware that this story is being used as the basis for unverified theories that the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19 was engineered. There is no evidence that this is true; scientists believe that an animal is the most likely source of the coronavirus.

Of course the origins of COVID-19 is an animal, but saying it was lab-created was/is just word gymnastics that was the cover-up for the lab leak theory. What was covered up, and is probably still being covered up, is that COVID-19 was "lab-altered" with NIH money, even though Fauci denies it.

Now that the lab leak theory can no longer be ignored, what we are seeing again is the continued attempt to cover-up the fact that COVID-19 is a genetically-altered coronavirus, and more importantly, that COVID-19 was the result of NIH-funded research even though the US halted funding for gain-of-function research.

With Pfizer alone anticipating $26 BILLION dollars in profit from combatting COVID-19 in 2021, it is doubtful that we will ever see any of the individuals responsible for the gain-of-function coronavirus, but it is worth considering.

Always follow the money.

Give Me Some Truth 10 hours ago remove link

It's madness that we allowed these mad scientists to perform all of this "research" for so long. It was simply a matter of time, before whatever viruses they "modified" escaped a lab.

As far as we know, this could still happen.

And all of this "research" was justified as being proactive measures to "protect" America from the threat of "terrorists." Well, who was posing the real damn risks? It wasn't any terrorists. It was scientists and bureaucrats being funded by the U.S. government.

keeper20 7 hours ago remove link

consider that fauci's wife parades as a bioethicist at the NIH.

beavertails 11 hours ago

Some upper Gatekeepers like Fauci and Gates being thrown under the bus means some higher ups are vulnerable.

Give Me Some Truth 10 hours ago remove link

This is perjury - a lie - spoken to members of Congress in an official proceeding/hearing:

Fauci: "Senator Paul you are entirely, entirely, & completely incorrect. The NIH has not ever funded gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

How many other lies has this man - and officials with the CDC and NIH - told?

A lot ... if anyone was allowed or willing to investigate and prove these lies.

Yog Soggoth 9 hours ago

They set up operations in China because there are no rules to follow. It is a Socialist State, which means the civilians are slaves to the party. Fauci is entirely complicit in the destruction of the USA by our foreign enemies.

ClamJammer 9 hours ago

As if being under oath makes a difference! How many times has Comey, Brennen, Clinton, Rice, Pompeo etc etc, lied under oath? Whats the point? Two-tier justice system, apparent to anyone with half a brain.

honest injun 10 hours ago (Edited)

Allowing Fauci to be part of the investgation would be as effective as putting fired CIA director Allen Dulles on Warren Commission to investigate if the CIA was involved with the assassination of JFK.

RocketPride PREMIUM 9 hours ago

This whole fiasco is an embarrassment to all the good, sound-thinking scientists. WTF?

Watt Supremacist 9 hours ago

Take a GMO vaccine for a GMO cold, then go enjoy a GMO Krispy Kreme and then swing on by White Castle for your free GMO dessert on a stick!

Neoliberalism is worse than cancer.

wellwaddyaknow 10 hours ago

sounds like a case of outsourcing the gain of function research to china. The tip of a very large iceberg. Probably conducting u.s. funded research on human-monkey embryos and later term fetuses and a lot of other biomedical stuff.

Fauci has an appointment with the bus.

Sort of like shutting down Epstein's operation via exposure to protect the other half dozen similar intel operations.

mahershalalhashbaz 10 hours ago remove link

Is Rand implying that gain of function research is fine as long as it's done in US labs?

Posa 7 hours ago (Edited) remove link

The results of the US-backed gain of function research at Wuhan was published in 2017 under the heading, " Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus ."

The smoking gun seems to be described in the Materials and Methods section of the paper linked above

Construction of recombinant viruses

....Then the two prepared spike DNA fragments were separately inserted into BAC with Es, Fs and other fragments. The correct infectious BAC clones were screened. The chimeric viruses were rescued as described previously [ 23 ].

We need a qualified microbiologist to review this article to confirm the full meaning of very technical material which apparently states that the novel S (chimeric) spike proteins were constructed in the Wuhan lab from bats and pieces bat and civet genomes. This in turn enforces the OTHER SMOKING GUN, which is that the SC-2 shows NO mutations, meaning that this virus spontaneously emerged on the scene FULLY ADAPTED to human ACE-2 receptors. This viral form of an IMMACULATE CONCEPTION is a clear sign of the COVID virus having UNNATURAL etiology.

Oboneterm 11 hours ago (Edited) remove link

I'm so glad the NYT has a writer to explain all this to it's dumb readers.

By David Leonhardt

Good morning. The lab-leak theory is everywhere. We have an explainer.

Members of the World Health Organization at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in February.Hector Retamal/Agence France-Presse" Getty Images

Groupthink + polarization

Suddenly, talk of the Wuhan lab-leak theory seems to be everywhere.

MoneyMonkey 8 hours ago

Sooo many deadly diseases are caused by rats.

[May 28, 2021] They always have these congressional investigations, yet nothing ever happens

See also Rand Paul slams media for not asking Fauci the right questions - YouTube
May 14, 2021 | www.youtube.com

Kentucky Republican discusses why he questioned the top health official over funding of the controversial Wuhan Institute of Virology on 'Fox News Primetime.' #FoxNews #FoxNewsPrimetime


Tim E , 1 day ago

They always have these congressional investigations, yet nothing ever happens.

[May 28, 2021] Emily Wilder, Chris Cuomo, and Power-Worshiping Journalism

Notable quotes:
"... On one occasion, she said Sheldon Adelson , a Jewish American billionaire who supports Republicans and right-wing Israeli politicians, looked like "a naked mole rat." For this, the right branded Wilder an anti-Semite, even though she is Jewish. Now she's out of a job. ..."
"... But it would be a mistake to reduce either Wilder's firing or the persistence of Cuomo to a story about cancel culture. The phenomenon is obviously one-sided; the outrage, bogus. This is really a story about journalism and an industry that has abdicated its most basic responsibilities. ..."
"... The rules matter. They exist to protect the integrity of a news outlet and to protect the public from corruption. Instead, news outlets are failing consumers and journalists alike. They serve power rather than challenge it. The result is a weak press in a nation desperate for the truth. That's no way to serve the public. ..."
"... AP prohibits employees from openly expressing their opinions on political matters and other public issues. ..."
"... I think Don Lemon is just an actor that plays a journalist on TV. Also, where is the diversity they preach on this network? Where are the Latinx, the Asian hosts, the women? So much for following what you preach. ..."
May 23, 2021 | nymag.com

Emily Wilder is a promising young journalist. After finishing a stint at the Arizona Republic , the recent Stanford graduate began a job with the Associated Press on May 3 as a news associate. Wilder could have built a career at the storied wire service or, with the experience she'd gained, leap to a major paper. Instead, the AP fired her two weeks in, days after the Stanford College Republicans pointed a right-wing mob in Wilder's direction. Wilder, it turns out, has political opinions: In college, she belonged to Students for Justice in Palestine and to Jewish Voice for Peace, two groups that oppose the occupation of Palestinian territory by Israeli forces. On one occasion, she said Sheldon Adelson , a Jewish American billionaire who supports Republicans and right-wing Israeli politicians, looked like "a naked mole rat." For this, the right branded Wilder an anti-Semite, even though she is Jewish. Now she's out of a job.

Contrast Wilder's circumstances with those of Chris Cuomo . The star CNN anchor will keep his job even though he has flouted basic ethical standards that typically apply to other, less prominent journalists. Though CNN once banned Cuomo from interviewing his governor brother, Andrew, it relaxed that when the pandemic hit "and the Cuomo Brothers show soared to popularity," Margaret Sullivan wrote at the Washington Post . That looked bad, CNN eventually conceded, and it reinstated the ban. Behind the scenes, though, Cuomo's ethical violations continued. On Thursday, the Post reported that he had advised his brother on how to handle sexual harassment allegations that threatened the elder Cuomo's popularity and career. Cuomo won't be punished, CNN said. Nothing can stop the Cuomo Brothers show.

The Cuomos possess something Emily Wilder lacks: power. Outrage derailed Wilder's career nearly as soon as it had begun. But real ethical violations can't kick Cuomo off the air. The Wilder and Cuomo stories both impart something vital about cancel culture. "There's no question I was just canceled," Wilder told SFGate. Cuomo, meanwhile, reportedly used the phrase to discuss his brother's sexual harassment problem. In practice, cancel culture cuts one way, against journalists like Wilder or Nikole Hannah-Jones , who was recently denied tenure under pressure from conservatives with links to the University of North Carolina Board of Governors, NC Policy Watch has reported. Against a white, male network star or his brother the governor, cancel culture can apparently do little.

But it would be a mistake to reduce either Wilder's firing or the persistence of Cuomo to a story about cancel culture. The phenomenon is obviously one-sided; the outrage, bogus. This is really a story about journalism and an industry that has abdicated its most basic responsibilities. The Associated Press has claimed that Wilder violated its social-media policies, though she says her bosses were unable to tell her how. In the absence of a substantive reason to fire Wilder, another explanation presents itself: The AP capitulated to a bad-faith political campaign. In doing so, it betrayed its very reason to exist. Wilder's political opinions have no bearing on her ability to gather news. The AP showed it is not impartial after all; it can be persuaded, if only from the right.

There is no evidence that Wilder is anything but what she appears to be, a talented and committed young journalist. People don't always enter college knowing they want to be journalists. Indeed, perhaps they shouldn't. Any definition of objectivity that requires a journalist to pretend neutrality asks that person to lie. Journalists are not automatons. They have opinions, and if they are not male or white or rich or straight, those opinions make them vulnerable to the right-wing outrages that just cost Wilder her new job. The press has one purpose, and that is to report news in the public's interest. It is not entertainment. It is not propaganda. It is not public relations.

And that's why Chris Cuomo ought to be out of a job. CNN, too, has forgotten why it exists. Cuomo's infractions impede his ability to cover the news. By keeping him employed, CNN says the news does not matter and neither do the rules. CNN made a similar calculation in the past with plagiarism, which typically ends careers "" unless a journalist happens to be Fareed Zakaria. The current host of CNN's GPS , he is generally tasked with explaining various foreign-policy matters to a popular audience and once lifted sections of a Jill Lepore column for a column in Time . Though CNN briefly suspended Zakaria in 2012 for the offense, the site Our Bad Media uncovered further incidents in 2014. Yet Zakaria persists, with CNN's help. He still hosts his show and will likely continue to do so unless another, bigger scandal somehow takes him down. The network's motivations are not mysterious. It wants to keep its moneymakers and elite influencers. To do this, it'll ignore the ethical standards that apply to everyone else. At the same time, journalism's Emily Wilders will scrape for every bit of job security they can find.

The rules matter. They exist to protect the integrity of a news outlet and to protect the public from corruption. Instead, news outlets are failing consumers and journalists alike. They serve power rather than challenge it. The result is a weak press in a nation desperate for the truth. That's no way to serve the public.

JosephQua 11 HOURS AGO

"On one occasion, she said Sheldon Adelson, a Jewish American billionaire who supports Republicans and right-wing Israeli politicians, looked like "a naked mole rat." For this, the right branded Wilder an anti-Semite, even though she is Jewish. Now she's out of a job."

This is a lie.

Wilder wasn't fired for remarks she tweeted while a college student, she was fired for tweets made in the 17 days she was employed by AP openly expressing her personal opinions on the Israel-Palestinian conflict, in one of which she openly attacked the idea of objectivity in journalism.

AP prohibits employees from openly expressing their opinions on political matters and other public issues.

Wilder knows exactly what tweets git her in trouble and when she made them.

In my opinion, both Chris Cuomo and Wilder should be terminated.

hivequeen+ 17 HOURS AGO

The problem isn't that Chris Cuomo talked to his brother. The problem is that Chris Cuomo talked to his brother AND his brother's advisors while they planned and developed a political strategy to defend his brother against claims of sexual harassment. And you know that.

tanquerochicago 1 DAY AGO

CNN has lost all credibility as a "news organization". I can't watch any of it with a straight face. They claim to believe in liberal views, preach the importance of diversity (rightfully so), and claim to be a serious network but they've allowed the Cuomo clown hour to continue.

I think Don Lemon is just an actor that plays a journalist on TV. Also, where is the diversity they preach on this network? Where are the Latinx, the Asian hosts, the women? So much for following what you preach.

And the Cuomos simply give Italians a bad name. They play into all of the awful stereotypes that everyone should be fighting...the machismo, sexism, bravado....gross! Just gross.

nibblybits 1 DAY AGO (Edited)

It's examples like Chris Cuomo not being even slapped on the wrist that gives oxygen to accusations of the right that CNN is fake news and no better than Fox. They lose the moral high ground against propaganda arms like Newsmax and OANN if Chris Cuomo is allowed to perpetuate defenses of his own brother from his perch as anchor. (And let's not peddle in the fiction that Chris is not reporting on his brother, when we know he has power in that organization to direct coverage.)

His colleagues are furious. Jim Acosta has been wading out into pro-Trump mobs for years trying to defend his job and his network, and Chris Cuomo just blew that up. Embarrassing.

Worse are the partisan hypocrites on here defending Cuomo.

[May 28, 2021] CDC's Absurd Guidelines For Summer Camps- A Recipe For Dystopian Fun

What CDC knows what we do know to issue such draconian guidelines? This looks like is a concentration camp not summer camp...
Notable quotes:
"... Two-layer masks should be worn at all times "" indoors and out ""except for eating, drinking and swimming ..."
"... Don't allow close-contact games and sports ..."
"... Avoid sharing of objects such as toys, games and art supplies ..."
"... Separate children on buses by skipping rows ..."
"... Divide children into "cohorts" and then keep them away from other cohorts ..."
"... Children should stay three feet away from kids in their cohort and six feet away from those outside their cohort; campers and staff should stay six feet from each other, as should fellow staff members ..."
"... While eating and drinking, stay six feet away from everybody, even your own cohort ..."
May 23, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

CDC Trapped in March 2020 Mindset

In April, the CDC published guidance for operating youth camps that was the latest eye-rolling example of CDC maximalism that conflicts with what we've learned about Covid-19.

Before we examine the CDC guidance, let's review some of the key things that we now know about Covid-19 that we didn't in March 2020:

With that knowledge in mind, here are some key ingredients in the CDC's recipe for dystopian summer fun:

Who exactly are these draconian, fun-killing guidelines meant to protect? The children aren't in any meaningful danger"" the number of children who typically drown in a given year is more than double the number of child Covid deaths we've observed in 15 months .

Meanwhile, against a backdrop of rapidly-vanishing Covid-19 infections across the country, camp staff will have had more than ample opportunity to be fully vaccinated against Covid-19 before the first kids arrive.

We're told to "follow the science," but what is the CDC following? The agency's guidelines read like they were written during the early dark ages of the Covid outbreak, when the peril was still filled with overwhelming mystery, and "erring on the side of caution" still had a trace of credibility.

As Columbia University pediatric immunologist Mark Gorelik told New York Magazine , " We know that the risk of outdoor infection is very low. We know risks of children becoming seriously ill or even ill at all is vanishingly small. And most of the vulnerable population is already vaccinated. I am supportive of effective measures to restrain the spread of illness. However, the CDC's recommendations cross the line into excess and are, frankly, senseless. Children cannot be running around outside in 90-degree weather wearing a mask. Period. "

Read more and subscribe at https://starkrealities.substack.com/

4 hours ago

Who cares what the CDC says? They have ZERO credibility and should be charged with fraud and "Crimes Against Humanity"


UpTo11 4 hours ago remove link

Just went to a high school graduation ceremony in Texas. 1 student had a mask. No one else in the stadium of 400. Not sure who wears masks anymore at all.

ChargingHandle 3 hours ago remove link

Come to oregon and you will see all species of sheeple wearing masks even when completely by themselves.

GunnerySgtHartman 2 hours ago

I still see people wearing masks while driving their cars ... with nobody else in the cars ... talk about sheeple.

Snakerockhiker 3 hours ago

The CDC guidance has nothing to do with Covid-19 and everything to do with maintaining and increasing fear, breaking down societal relationships, and ensuring people are following operant conditioning protocols like Pavlov's dogs. A gang of criminals are running America's medical heirarchy. We need to eliminate them.

[May 25, 2021] Watch- Tucker Carlson Blasts Fauci, WHO, Media For Lying About COVID Lab Leak For A Year

May 25, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

After Russiagate the credibility of CIA is below zero. So this looks like a part of propaganda compaign against China.

"Yet somehow Tony Fauci didn't know this Can we really believe that? No, of course, we can't," Carlson continued, adding "right around the time those Chinese researchers became the world's first COVID patients, the government of Thailand contacted the CDC and Tony Fauci's office to say its intelligence service had picked up 'biological anomalies' around the lab in Wuhan. In other words, there had been a leak."

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AUS-AUD 8 hours ago (Edited)

If fauci funded the wuhan lab then the US funded the wuhan lab.

popeye 6 hours ago

There has been no new credible information released in the past two months pertaining to the origin of SARS-Cov-2. US Intelligence is not a credible source (lying & deception are the tradecraft of espionage). All I see is media narrative spin based on conjecture that you can guarantee has political origins.

Yet Americans, who complain incessantly about the dishonesty of their media, credulously swallow the narrative fed to them without analysis or critique. Stupid. You think you are independent rebels, when you are in reality manipulated sheep, and oh so easily manipulated.

Lets be clear - ZH is now a part of the narrative machine.

SurfingUSA 4 hours ago (Edited)

Can't make inferences????

The Wuhan lab is just the fall guy here.

  • The virus,
  • the lab (or Army games) release,
  • the election impact ...

ALL either Made in the (((USA))) or close to it.

Justin Timberbieber 8 hours ago

Yep, just the CCP. No western involvement whatsoever.

E5 8 hours ago

Until you trace the scientists back to UNC. Then you see that the actual virus they accelerated came from the US.

Heimdall - Torwart von Assguard 6 hours ago

AND Canada

Ted K. 6 hours ago

The Winnipeg lab of the fully infiltrated Canada is indeed a piece of the puzzle.

Herdee 5 hours ago

And Ft. Detrick

RedNemesis 6 hours ago (Edited)

Okay. They accelerated and released a virus obtained from the US. So is the US responsible for a country turning yellow cake uranium mined in Nevada into a nuclear weapon?

truth or go home 5 hours ago

Yes, if the US gives them the recipe and then pays them to develop it.

And if the US did that to get around a law that makes it illegal to do makes it even worse - which is exactly what happened.

SteveNYC 7 hours ago

I'm going with the "populism" route. Stopping populist governments in their tracks has always proven reason enough for panic and overkill from TPTB:

- USA

- Brazil

- India

<< Primary targets.

Heimdall - Torwart von Assguard 6 hours ago

Poland

Hungary

Venezuela

Brazil

popeye 6 hours ago

Most Americans have never left their country, many have never left their state, and few seem to have an education. You can't expect them to know much about anything outside the US. Basically a flat earth mentality - "the world consists only of what I can see".

junction 8 hours ago

The only certainty is that all the major facts are lies.

Jolt 5 hours ago

You're on the right track, "junction", but be aware that the virus is just an ordinary flu/corona virus that isn't deadly for the vast majority of humans. The real culprit, the biggest tool for creating the worldwide "emergency" is the PCR test, which is 100% fraudulent. This is by design, thanks to the pharmaceuticals.

williambanzai7 PREMIUM 8 hours ago remove link

No Tucker, if you just want to blame the whole thing on China you are missing the punchline: Fauci

tion PREMIUM 8 hours ago (Edited) remove link

It's all an assortment of narratives and partial truths. Tucker points the finger at China without mentioning how Fauci was funding Gain of Function work at the Wuhan lab. Here is just one example of people from that lab using an HIV splice to increase transmissibility of a pathogen to humans.

https://jvi.asm.org/content/jvi/82/4/1899.full.pdf

In this study, we investigated the receptor usage of the SL-CoV S by combining a human immunodeficiency virus-based pseudovirus system with cell lines expressing the ACE2 molecules of human, civet, or horseshoe bat. In addition to full-length S of SL-CoV and SARS-CoV, a series of S chimeras was constructed by inserting different sequences of the SARS-CoV S into the SL-CoV S backbone. Several important observations were made from this study. First, the SL-CoV S was unable to use any of the three ACE2 molecules as its receptor. Second, the SARS-CoV S failed to enter cells expressing the bat ACE2. Third, the chimeric S covering the previously defined receptor-binding domain gained its ability to enter cells via human ACE2, albeit with different efficiencies for different constructs. Fourth, a minimal insert region (amino acids 310 to 518) was found to be sufficient to convert the SL-CoV S from non-ACE2 binding to human ACE2 binding , indicating that the SL-CoV S is largely compatible with SARS-CoV S protein both in structure and in function.

Journal of Virology, February 2008

And by the way let's not pretend that dear Donald aka President Kushner's FIL didn't also know about Fauci's questionable involvement with unethical gain of function research at this lab before appointing him and the PEPFAR mafia to head the Covid taskforce, putting the foxes in charge of guarding the hen house so to speak.

TheAlmightyCorndawg 8 hours ago

Which is precisely why Tucker is Operation Mockingbird.

Billy the Poet 7 hours ago (Edited)

Then show me solid evidence that what you say is true. You do have film of Tucker working with the CIA, right?

2+2 ≠ 5 8 hours ago remove link

Huh?

Tucker has NEVER "supported the election hoax".

In fact, Tucker is one of the very few on MSM to continually call for proper voting audits of the 2020 election, and he repeatedly highlights the obvious fraud that took place.

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GoodyGumdrops 8 hours ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Election fraud has been happening in the US for decades.

The only thing new this time around is they decided to mock the American people openly, so that they can never claim ignorance again about the corruption.

The plandemic is the real worldwide atrocity being played out right now before our eyes.

asteroids 8 hours ago

The heads of the NIH and the CDC have been caught lying. Therefore both agencies have NO credibility and have lost the trust of the people. ...

Flying Monkees 8 hours ago

Imagine being a total POS like Fauci who would destroy the freedom and liberties of his fellow Americans just so he can line his own pockets...

[May 24, 2021] Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

May 24, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
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Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
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Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.
Will Fauci's Boss Answer the Questions about the Wuhan Lab

Did Covid-19 originate in a Chinese laboratory funded in part by a grantee of Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases? The world is waiting for an answer, and on Thursday several Republican members of the House and Senate asked Dr. Fauci's boss to help provide one. A related question is whether the deadly pandemic was the result of "gain-of-function" research, in which scientists genetically engineer deadly viruses which do not exist in nature in order to understand potential future threats.

Sens. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Dr. Rand Paul of Kentucky lead the signers of the new letter to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. The letter contains various footnotes and relies on both government and media reports to assert the following history:

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the exact origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained elusive. Recently, in response to the World Health Organization's study of SARS-CoV-2's origins, a group of eighteen scientists published a letter in Science Magazine stating that a leak of the virus from a lab is a "viable" theory and should be thoroughly investigated. Yet, obtaining information about the research on bat coronaviruses conducted at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology has been very difficult. Such information, including if and when gain of function experiments occurred at the lab, is crucial in determining the viability of the laboratory introduction theory. In light of the many unanswered questions regarding the origins of the SARS-CoV-2, we write to seek information regarding the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) 2014 funding pause on gain of function research (also referred to as the moratorium), exceptions NIH may have granted from that pause to allow gain of function research to continue, and the lifting of that pause in 2017.
In October 2014, following several high profile biosafety incidents at labs, as well as public scrutiny of gain of function research studies, the Department of Health and Human Services and NIH instituted a pause on funding research of gain of function experiments "involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses." The U.S. government (USG) noted, though, that "[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security." This pause did not apply to currently-funded research at the time, but the moratorium did urge "the USG and non-USG funded research community to join in adopting a voluntary pause."
One of the notable NIH-funded studies that was already underway prior to the funding moratorium was Dr. Ralph Baric's work on a "lab-made coronavirus related to SARS." In this 2015 study, researchers reportedly created a chimeric virus "related to SARS [that] can infect human cells." Dr. Zhengli-Li Shi, "China's leading expert on bat viruses" from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contributed to this research. An article noted that NIH allowed this study "to proceed while it was under review by the agency." Baric reportedly added that "NIH eventually concluded that the work was not so risky as to fall under the [gain of function] moratorium." It is unclear why NIH apparently concluded that this study was not "risky" enough to fall under the moratorium.
In addition to Baric's apparent gain of function research in 2015, NIH and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) also reportedly funded similar coronavirus research conducted by EcoHealth Alliance, which subcontracted with Shi. Because of Shi's research and her connection to the Wuhan lab, Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and infectious disease expert, stated, "[i]t is clear that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was systematically constructing novel chimeric coronaviruses and was assessing their ability to infect human cells and human-ACE2-expressing mice." In fact, Dr. Peter Dasazk, the president of EcoHealth Alliance, spoke about changing coronaviruses in a lab. In an interview Dasazk stated, "Well I think . . . coronaviruses -- you can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily."
In December 2017, NIH lifted the funding pause and established a multi-disciplinary review process, known as the P3CO Framework, to ensure that federally funded gain of function experiments are "conducted responsibly." It is unclear whether EcoHealth Alliance or any of its subcontractors was granted an exception to the moratorium or whether NIH reviewed those studies in connection with the P3CO Framework.
B BOB SCHAFER
Is the NIH Director actually Fauci's boss? If he's responsible for all the contradictions, his job should be in serious jeopardy.

[May 24, 2021] When a friend succeeds, a little something in me dies

May 24, 2021 | www.ft.com

A popover with more user information 4 HOURS AGO Money burns a hole in your pocket, and when your friends are getting rich and you aren't , it burns a hole in your soul too. Recommend 1 Reply Share A dialog showing a permalink to the comment Report ...and breathe A popover with more user information 2 HOURS AGO In reply to memento_mori Similar to Gore Vidal - "When a friend succeeds, a little something in me dies"

[May 24, 2021] Pretty soon we are going to hear a variation of the Casablanca "gambling at Rick's" line. I'm shocked, shocked that there's gain-of-function research being done at the Wuhan lab.

May 24, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Pretty soon we are going to hear a variation of the Casablanca "gambling at Rick's" line. I'm shocked, shocked that there's gain-of-function research being done at the Wuhan lab. K R HANINGTON

Pretty soon we are going to hear a variation of the Casablanca "gambling at Rick's" line.
I'm shocked, shocked that there's gain-of-function research being done at the Wuhan lab.
Pretty soon we are going to hear a variation of the Casablanca "gambling at Rick's" line. I'm shocked, shocked that there's gain-of-function research being done at the Wuhan lab. K R HANINGTON
Pretty soon we are going to hear a variation of the Casablanca "gambling at Rick's" line.
I'm shocked, shocked that there's gain-of-function research being done at the Wuhan lab.
Pretty soon we are going to hear a variation of the Casablanca "gambling at Rick's" line. I'm shocked, shocked that there's gain-of-function research being done at the Wuhan lab. K R HANINGTON
Pretty soon we are going to hear a variation of the Casablanca "gambling at Rick's" line.
I'm shocked, shocked that there's gain-of-function research being done at the Wuhan lab.

[May 22, 2021] Kary Mullis, the inventor of the PCR process spoke out about Fauci's incompetence and their sinister agenda

May 22, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

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GoodyGumdrops 15 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Kary Mullis, the inventor of the PCR process, died two months before Event 201 - an exercise in October 2019 to simulate what might happen if there was a severe global pandemic.

He also spoke out about Fauci's incompetence and their sinister agenda. Just think what he would've been saying about his invention being misused in this way.

usedtobeblue 49 minutes ago

There is a video floating around on the Internet that shows how Fauci, Berks, et. al. used the same technique to greatly expand the HIV infection rate. This led to a large increase in funding for their work. Sounds like they have the script down pat.

zvzzt 45 minutes ago remove link

Documentary: House of Numbers. Highly recommended and highly applicable to current bollocks.

[May 17, 2021] Fauci Declares Pandemic Has Highlighted How Racist America Is

Notable quotes:
"... "My bureaucracy in no way funded gain of function research at the Wuhan lab on a bat virus that came to be known as Covid19." ..."
"... You've been at the top of the public health heap for at least four decades. So what have YOU done to address this situation? If your answer is "Nothing." you should consider jumping off a tall building because YOU are a racist. ..."
"... When you've got nothing intelligent to say, declare something is racist! ..."
May 17, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

CheapBastard 2 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Where is Fauci's African kente scarf?

Bold statements like that require the proper attire!

SharkBit 2 hours ago

Oh please! Dr Fraudci virtue signalling. Total embarrasment.

nmewn 2 hours ago

Dr.StrangeElf: "My bureaucracy in no way funded gain of function research at the Wuhan lab on a bat virus that came to be known as Covid19."

That infected millions of people of color. Oh. And America is raaayzist.

NotaSheep 2 hours ago

Racism? Really? Because of inadequate access to "public health"? Really?

Well gosh, Dr. F. You've been at the top of the public health heap for at least four decades. So what have YOU done to address this situation? If your answer is "Nothing." you should consider jumping off a tall building because YOU are a racist. The rest of us, not so much.

FreeSpeech1A PREMIUM 2 hours ago

When you've got nothing intelligent to say, declare something is racist!

[May 17, 2021] Watch- Fauci Declares Pandemic Has Highlighted How Racist America Is - ZeroHedge

May 17, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Watch: Fauci Declares Pandemic Has Highlighted How Racist America Is BY TYLER DURDEN MONDAY, MAY 17, 2021 - 03:05 PM

Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News,

The White House Senior Medical Advisor Anthony Fauci stated Sunday that the coronavirus pandemic has revealed that the US is a fundamentally racist country.

Speaking to graduates of Emory University, Fauci declared that the virus has revealed the "undeniable effects of racism in our society."

"Covid-19 has shone a bright light on our own society's failings," said Fauci, arguing that African Americans, Hispanics, and Native Americans are all more susceptible to the virus because of pre-existing health conditions stemming directly from social factors including "access to healthcare" and "availability of an adequate diet."

"Very few of these comorbidities have racial determinants," Fauci claimed, further stating "Almost all relate to the social determinants of health dating back to disadvantageous conditions that some people of color find themselves in from birth regarding the availability of an adequate diet, access to healthcare and the undeniable effects of racism in our society. "

Watch:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/w6EkSceuErQ

Meanwhile, Senator Rand Paul has continued to criticise Fauci, urging Friday that he is a "little dictator" who "acts like an ignoramus every day" where mask mandates are concerned.

Appearing on Fox News, Paul stated that Fauci "probably has the highest IQ for someone who actually acts like an ignoramus every day of the week."

After Fauci decreed that kids should keep wearing masks , leading to the CDC head echoing his calls, Paul countered "Kids don't get this disease. When they do get it, it's a mild form. They don't transmit it well. We've got two years worth of evidence on this."

"They [the CDC] still have their camp provision. They want them going around camp wearing a mask, doing the 6-foot stuff," Paul continued, adding " There's no science behind it. It's all conjecture, it's all Tony Fauci, his way or the highway."

"Mr. Little Dictator . . . If Fauci wants kids to mask up and wear masks everywhere, he should show us the science," Paul emphasised.

Watch:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/np5X-x2ACJ8

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CheapBastard 2 hours ago

Fauci is in a panic worried his funding of the bioweapon in Wuhan that killed millions of people will be exposed.

Calls for major distraction, defaming Americans and throwing them to the gutter.

JimmyJones 2 hours ago

100% thats why the mask mandate bs is coming to an end even in the Blue States.

19331510 2 hours ago remove link

The CDC's own study indicates masks limited transmission by less than 2% and closing public dining area reduced transmission by approximately 1%.

https://thehighwire.com/videos/del-debunks-cdc-mask-spin/ (rate reduction 6:00-7:15)

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm

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A group of experts present to the Florida legislature.

https://thehighwire.com/videos/the-data-on-masks-is-clear/ (children:3:40, 6:00)

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A random controlled trial in Denmark reveals mask are ineffective.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/12/03/efficacy-of-surgical-masks.aspx

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Masks can stop bacteria but not viruses.

According to the current knowledge, the virus SARS-CoV-2 has a diameter of 60 nm to 140 nm [nanometers (billionth of a meter)] [16], [17], while medical and non-medical facemasks' thread diameter ranges from 55 µm to 440 µm [micrometers (one millionth of a meter), which is more than 1000 times larger [25]. Due to the difference in sizes between SARS-CoV-2 diameter and facemasks thread diameter ( the virus is 1000 times smaller ), SARS-CoV-2 can easily pass through any facemask

https://principia-scientific.com/nih-stanford-study-proves-face-masks-worthless-against-covid/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

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-The average diameter of a single bacterium is 4.25 micrometers. A micrometer is one thousandth of a meter. A meter is 39.37 inches. The average diameter of a coronavirus is 90 nanometers. A nanometer is a billionth of a meter.

- There are roughly two orders of magnitude (100 times) difference between a single bacterium and a virus. We can see a single bacterium with a very powerful optical microscope. We cannot see viruses with optical microscopes. We need very powerful electron microscopes to resolve a virus.

-Most doctors are very good in medicine but have very little understanding of physics. The same holds true for virologists and other researchers in the field.

https://principia-scientific.com/are-facemasks-effective-against-viruses-or-not/

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As a rationale for masks this fails because it does not mention a necessary prior element. In order to work, masks have to attenuate the guilty aerosols. The individual aerosols involved could be only a micrometer or few micrometers in size. The individual virions are in the range of 50-130 nanometers.[6] I have looked at a number of cloth masks that one can purchase and found their pore sizes to be 0.05 to 0.15 millimeters. This is 1000 times larger than virions and hundreds of times larger than small aerosols.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/03/16/tba/

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https://principia-scientific.com/the-science-exposing-the-myths-about-medical-masks/

https://principia-scientific.com/masks-the-science-myths/

https://principia-scientific.com/20-reasons-mandatory-face-masks-are-unsafe-ineffective-immoral/

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Conclusion: Respiratory pathogens on the outer surface of the used medical masks may result in self-contamination .

https://principia-scientific.com/contamination-by-respiratory-viruses-on-outer-surface-of-medical-masks/

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Where is the data supporting mask wearing?

https://principia-scientific.com/rand-paul-rips-fauci-over-post-vaccine-mask-mandates/

Macho Latte 1 hour ago

Fauci is a parasite

An Open Letter to Dr. Anthony Fauci
by Larry Kramer
Originally published May 31, 1988

https://www.villagevoice.com/2020/05/28/an-open-letter-to-dr-anthony-fauci/

19331510 1 hour ago

Dr. Lee Merritt, Dr. Tenpenny, Dr. Richard Fleming and Dr. Vanden Bossche have trying to warning people about the risks of the experimental gene therapies for sometime.

drleemerritt.com drtenpenny.com flemingmethod.com

Not Your Father's ZH 1 hour ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/BLeCULQx45Nm/ (BitChute: Dr. Merritt)

https://www.bitchute.com/video/7hqSgsZn1vCC/ (BitChute: Dr. Tenpenny)

1CSR2SQN 1 hour ago

They don't deal with data, that's just the point and the media is even worse, they don't deal with reality. Occult bots, all they are.

Not Your Father's ZH 2 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Fauci (Which means "jaws" in Italian, BTW) may be right on this racism angle: Gates is American and has sickened and maimed and killed millions of Africans with his "vax" programs.

Nuremberg 2.0 NOW: 1,000 Lawyers and 10,000 Doctors Have Prepared a Lawsuit . . . against the Gates/Fauci/CDC/WHO/WEF crime syndicate for their crimes against humanity.

57 leading scientists, doctors, and public policy experts call for immediate halt to Covid vaccine programs

Pandelis 2 hours ago

did dr. fauci incriminate himself and lied to congress?

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4962333/senator-paul-dr-fauci-clash-research-funding-wuhan-lab

konputa 2 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Yeah one wonders if perhaps Fauci has noticed the rate of obesity among Blacks and Hispanics.

Non-Hispanic Black adults (49.6%) had the highest age-adjusted prevalence of obesity, followed by Hispanic adults (44.8%), non-Hispanic White adults (42.2%). People that are morbidly obese will tend to have a litany of other serious comorbidities, leading to more risk.

Maybe the obvious answer is the correct one.

[May 17, 2021] Fauci as the fox guarding the henhouse. Fauci contradicted himself twice, that's purgery

The real question is how close Fauci is to military establishment and dual function research.
Notable quotes:
"... "Dr. Baric is not doing gain-of-function research, and if he is, it is being conducted according to the guidelines" ..."
May 17, 2021 | www.youtube.com

research everything , 5 days ago

Fauci has a long sordid history of involvement in Gain of Function meddling! Having him as an advisor to the US about the abominable efforts to make a virus jump from bats to humans which they achieved in the Wuhan lab is truly the fox guarding the henhouse. He DID fund that lab through a huge contribution to another source that then sent that money to Wuhan.

Jeffrey Bunke , 5 days ago

"We don't send Wuhan money" ....... "Let me explain why we sent them money..."

NickelCityPixels , 4 days ago

Fauci: "We didn't fund the Wuhan lab." Paul: "Funding was laundered through a middle man, Eco Health." Fauci: "Let me explain why we funded the Wuhan lab..."

247Marketing , 2 days ago

Fauci contradicted himself twice, that's purgery

El Sucio Federali , 5 days ago

Dual Use = scientific and military application ! We can NEVER allow these loons to be in a position to make crucial decisions way outside of their lanes.


Don G
, 2 days ago

Fauci's defence is according to the lefts' playbook -- semantics. Fauci is in up to his neck and is trying to weasel his way out of any tie to corona virus 🦠 research.


Guy's Picks
, 5 days ago

"Dr. Baric is not doing gain-of-function research, and if he is, it is being conducted according to the guidelines"

Leo Nielson , 2 days ago

1:57 Fauci: "Let me explain to you why that was done: the SARS CoV-1 (severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus) *originated in bats in China*. It would have been irresponsible of us if we did not investigate the bat viruses and the serology to see who might have been infected." For all those who say the virus didn't come from China . . . Fauci just admitted that the virus came from China.


Emv
, 3 days ago

Krystal, did you really say Biden Admistration is committed to finding the origin of virus? They are investigating themselves. Let me guess conclusion," we have investigated ourselves and we found we did nothing wrong", please......


T
, 4 days ago

Fauci trying to say that it's not gain of function reminds me of north Korea saying they don't have concentration camps because "we don't use that term, so we don't have them."

[May 17, 2021] Krystal and Saagar -- Fauci CAUGHT HIDING Key Facts From Senate On Lab Leak Hypothesis

May 12, 2021 | www.youtube.com

Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti discuss Dr. Anthony Fauci's Senate testimony on the Covid-19 response.


Kate Pic , 3 days ago

I have to give Krystal and Saagar credit for staying focused and not distracted by who ever is stomping around with heavy boots on a hardware floor...or whatever is happening because it's blowing up my ADHD!

June Stolt , 2 days ago

Rand Paul is the reason they are gaslighting us by saying we don't need to wear masks less than 24 hrs again

PigIron BigIron , 5 days ago

"We don't send money to Wuhan." "Let me explain why we send money to Wuhan". "We don't do gain of function, but if we do".... He's a disgusting worm.

Sam G , 3 days ago

I'm so happy this show is on The Hill you guys deserve more attention and the lefty Hill better not drop you guys

Daniel Corona , 2 days ago

Fauchi knows this whole time that his hands have blood on them.

Danny De La Cruz , 1 day ago

1:49 Rand Paul: you did send money, it was a sub grant Fuci: right Literally wow

L Karamazov , 2 days ago

"It's not gain of function because I, the great Faucci say it's not!"

Thierry Herreman , 3 days ago

If Fauci robbed a bank, he would say:"I took money from the bank, but I don't call that stealing".

JB202
, 4 days ago

Fauci: "It absolutely, unequivocally, was not gain of function research." Paul: "Well, what kind of research was it?" Fauci: "Fain of Gunction."


Sukey Watson
, 2 days ago

Gain of function funding* was reinstated in 2019 after having been suspended on 2014 ( or 2015 - I read this recently but don't quite remember the exact date of the original suspension )


Stephanie Carrow
, 5 days ago

Fauci: If it was Gain of Function, it was done in North Carolina. Whew! That makes me feel safer. 😥😥


Charlotte Williams
, 2 days ago

I believe the place I first heard about the University of North Carolina working on gain of function with China was on the Anonymous YT channel. I believe there was a female epidemiologist saying covid 19 is clearly a manipulated virus, would've taken 10,000 years for a virus to naturally evolve to the level of virulence. That video was posted in late January or February 2020.

Kevin Nowicki , 2 days ago

They think the American people are completely ignorant. They think that we as a people cannot put the pieces of the puzzle together and see that the picture reveals there is something awful that happened in Wuhon, China and it appears that the U. S. Funded it in some way. It's not a coincidence that this virus started in the same town where these disease processes are studied.

[May 17, 2021] Did Dr. Fauci fund Wuhan Virus research?

Interesting coverage
May 17, 2021 | www.youtube.com

Nakul pisolkar , 4 days ago

It's hard to believe that WHO chief who quoted that there is no evidence of "Human to Human transmission of the virus" in Jan 2020 is still in charge of that organisation which has failed the world miserably

Pat Madsen , 1 day ago

That's exactly what Dr. Judy Mikovits was trying to tell the world on YouTube a year ago before they shut her down.

Machado Doreen , 2 days ago

Both American research scientists and the Chinese research scientists who are suspect should be investigated thoroughly. We cannot let this go.

Davina Gray , 2 days ago

🤥Of course he Never thought he'll get CAUGHT. 🤥🤥 Now, let's see what happens to him. [[ Don't hold ur breath]]

FEM.B0T .1.0.1 , 3 days ago

May God reveal the wicked and all their evil works that justice may be visited on their evil heads.

Et V , 4 days ago

Much respect to India for having news outlets that cover the stories the western press refuse to touch.

E Pasternak , 2 days ago

He is a criminal, India my heart breaks for you, I want to send my prayers to the people, allot of us here in America are very sad. God be with all of you and your beautiful country.

Jack Vai , 1 day ago

HE'S RUNNING INTERFERENCE, DAILY, FOR WUHAN... I'D SAY THAT HE'S INVOLVED. HE'S AN EVIL LITTLE GUY...I HOPE GOD IS WATCHING.

Jaguar Lopez , 1 day ago

This lady knows what's up, and she doesn't have time for BS! 👍🏽👆🏽

mightysun89 , 1 day ago

This was known last year. the government of many countries funded that lab. They will have to face the judgement from Lord of Lord when they die and stand before the judgement seat.

Reza Rahimi , 5 days ago

When I saw his picture with Bill Gates, I was assured they are hiding the truth.

Saleh Othman , 1 day ago

And this is a character that everyone is putting their lives on the line trustingly abiding by his words!!

Zara , 1 day ago

That they inject him with the truth serum and put the lie detector on him at the same time.

B0omer96 , 1 day ago

In order to get uncensored and unbiased news about my country the United States I have to get my news from Sky News Australia and WION. Mad world. Ty for your objectivity WION.

Boba Fett , 3 days ago (edited)

Palki Sharma is an amazing journalist and a reporter. A brave woman who speaks with facts and she knows her scope well. And yes! Dr. Fauci knows everything about this virus but he will not say the shocking obvious about it to the world. Thats all.

[May 17, 2021] Rand Paul on heated Senate exchange with Dr. Fauci

"turning down and closing the entire economy has been devastating...that's a fact!" That IS an indisputable fact . When will Fauci be asked "why did you send COVID research to Wuhan'. Where was Dr. Fauci’s caution when he authorized and funded gain of function research on coronavirus in Wuhan?
Fauci is not a scientist, he is a neoliberal. Paid big money for pushing globalists’ agenda. He needs to be investigated for illegally funding the gain of function research in Wuhan Biolab!
May 12, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Senator Rand Paul, R-KY, says he strongly believes Obama 'gave orders' on Michael Flynn case, and weighs in on heated argument with Dr. Fauci in Senate hearing. #FoxNews


Edwin Jansen , 4 weeks ago (edited)

"Heated argument". I found the whole thing quite disappointing. Fauci was never asked about his funding decisions related to Wuhan. Nor about his clear conflicts of interest with regards to available cures and vaccines. There were no scientist asking questions about the health effects of lockdowns or asking critical questions about the earlier prediction and computer models who clearly were way off. Non of it. These were no hearings! These were just a few people having a monologue battle. I found the whole hearing amounted to nothing. Nothing new was disclosed or brought to light that has not been reported in the mainstream media before. I am very disappointed in Rand Paul. I expected so much more of him.

David Hersh , 4 weeks ago (edited)

Rand is great! But, unfortunately, he couldn't say that Fauci is part of the problem. Everyone knows Fauci is linked to Gates.

HeyJude , 3 weeks ago

Is Fauci really a physician, does he see patients. When was the last time he was in practice. He's an academic. He shouldn't have as much public access as he does. Spreading false information.

Goodwomen Goodman , 3 weeks ago

A great Senator. We don't have many senators like him. A great American

rainwolf034 , 3 weeks ago

They thought Hillary would win so all this would get swept under the rug...

DocLarsen44 , 3 weeks ago

I have one argument with Senator Paul: his statement that Dr. Fauci "is a good person." Dr. Fauci is NOT A GOOD PERSON in my opinion. One need look no further than Fauci's underhanded dealings with Dr. Judy Mikovits as shared by her on the Thomas Paine Podcast - Mike Moore EPISODE 19, 21st April 2020. Rand Paul's statement that Fauci is a "good person" holds no more validity than Donald Trump's statement that Bill and Hillary Clinton are "good people."

[May 17, 2021] How about a job performance appraisal of Dr. Fauci and Dr. Rick?

May 07, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Fred, 06 May 2020 at 04:53 PM

How about a job performance appraisal of Dr. Fauci and Dr. Rick? It appears that BARDA hasn't accomplished much of that strategy layed out in 2011.

"The nation has endeavored over the past ten years to become better prepared for the medical consequences of catastrophic events such as bioterrorist events and pandemic influenza. During that time period Project BioShield, The National Strategy for Pandemic Influenza, and the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority have emerged to support the development and acquisition of medical countermeasures (MCMs) and the domestic manufacturing capacity to prepare for and respond to an emergency. "

BARDA strategy page, by Dr. Bright's predecesor. Apparently he didn't see a need to update it in the 4 years he was in charge.
https://www.phe.gov/about/barda/stratplan/Pages/message-for-the-barda-director.aspx

Paging Dr. Bright, looks like that pandemic you spent four years preparing for is here.......

"support the development and acquisition of medical countermeasures (MCMs)" That's the strategy, what say you Dr. Rick? Are we ready

"Dr. Rick Bright is an internationally recognized expert in the fields of immunology, therapudic intervention, vaccine and diagnostic development. He is also one of the nations leading experts in pandemic preparedness and response and in the design of diagnostic tools required to track pandemics..."

page 29, whistleblower complaint.

https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6882560-Rick-Bright-Whistleblower-Complaint

Okay boys and girls, how about a job performance appraisal. Dr. Rick's performance on BARDA's strategy for:
" domestic manufacturing capacity to prepare for and respond to an emergency."
A) "internationally recognized expert" level
B) "nations leading experts in pandemic preparedness" level
C) Grossly incompetent and should be in jail
D) Let's blame Trump instead

Dr. Rick's performance on BARDA's strategy for:
"development and acquisition of medical countermeasures"
A) "internationally recognized expert" level
B) "nations leading experts in pandemic preparedness" level
C) Grossly incompetent and should be in jail
D) Let's blame Trump instead

You should read his complaint, it's a great insight into just how much red tape and green money there is in drug approval. If anybody in the House is reading, please let Nancy, when she's done with her ice cream break, know that we need an investigation. I hear there are some experienced lawyers out of work, maybe she can call Bob Mueller and see who he can recommend to investigate this one.

[May 14, 2021] Fauci-Funded Researchers Headlined Wuhan Lab 'Gain Of Function' Conference - ZeroHedge

May 14, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Natalie Winters via The National Pulse

Recipients of grants from Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases headlined a Wuhan Institute of Virology conference focusing on "gain of function research and gene editing," The National Pulse can exclusively reveal.

A press release from the Wuhan Institute of Virology – believed by many to be the source of COVID-19 – recounts the "2nd China-U.S. Workshop on the Challenges of Emerging Infections, Laboratory Safety and Global Health Security."

The May 2017 event was "co-organized by U.S. National Academy of Sciences, Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS), Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), CAS and Hubei Society for Microbiology."

According to the Wuhan lab, the event had five academic sessions, the first of which was "gain of function research, gene editing, targeting and delivery and other novel biotechnology."

Among the Americans in attendance as special guests were Professors Linda Saif, James LeDuc, and David Relman. Together, the three professors have received nearly 200 grants from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), with 75 coming from Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).

LeDuc, whose earliest grant can be traced to 2006, has received 32 grants from the NIAID, according to the NIH registry. He runs the Galveston National Laboratory, which was " constructed under grants awarded by the NIAID/NIH."

Saif, who counts funding from NIAID since 1985, has received a total of 56 grants from the NIH, 43 of which came from Fauci's NIAID.

And Relman, who's been funded by the NIH since 1996, has received 90 grants from the NIH. He has also received the NIH's Pioneer Award and the Transformative Research Award.

The unearthed conference follows a heated exchange between Fauci and Senator Rand Paul, where the NIAID Director denied providing funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to conduct gain of function research.

NIH grant records reveal, however, that money sent to the New York-based EcoHealth Alliance was used for research conducted at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

The official event web page states:

The opening ceremony was chair by Prof. Zhiming Yuan, the Director of Wuhan National Biosafety Level 4 (P4) Laboratory. Prof. Xinwen Chen, the Director General of WIV, delivered the opening address, in which he pointed out that as a qualified academic exchange activity, this workshop will definitely put forward new ideas for the research on emerging viral diseases control, biosafety laboratory and global health security. The workshop is divided into five academic sessions, including (1) gain of function research, gene editing, targeting and delivery and other novel biotechnology; (2) public health response to outbreaks and issues; (3) emerging infectious diseases and global health security; (4) high-level biosafety laboratory: construction, commissioning, and sustainment, and (5) biosafety, biosecurity and bioethics. Experts delivered 23 speeches in the workshop, and mainly discussed policies in response to emerging infectious diseases. Prof. Linda Saif (academician) from Ohio State University, Prof. David Relman (academician) from Stanford University, Prof. James LeDuc, the Director of Galveston National Laboratory, and Prof. George F. Gao (academician) from Institute of Microbiology, CAS attended the workshop as special guests. y_arrow


Lordflin 1 hour ago

I said some time back this creature was running for cover...

He was starting to realize... too late I suspect... that when people started looking for heads his would be one of the very first offered up...

nmewn 1 hour ago (Edited) remove link

"The unearthed conference follows a heated exchange between Fauci and Senator Rand Paul, where the NIAID Director denied providing funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to conduct gain of function research.

NIH grant records reveal, however, that money sent to the New York-based EcoHealth Alliance was used for research conducted at the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

So. Dr.StrangeElf lied.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4962333/senator-paul-dr-fauci-clash-research-funding-wuhan-lab

radical-extremist 1 hour ago

As Rand Paul said "He lied.". He said he never funded gain of function research, but merely funded research into SARS-1. You're not researching SARS-1 without gain of function research. That's what they were doing, to try and devise a vaccine for SARS-1...which became SARS-2 or COVID-19...and escaped the Wuhan Lab.

I wonder it 60 Minutes will rescind it's glowing Fauci profile segment.

radical-extremist 1 hour ago (Edited) remove link

As soon as the virus hit in January 2020, Fauci's first reaction was to get way ahead of the story before it could be traced back to him. People of authority who create messes often do this...so they can then be the hero.

You don't run from the problem, you get right in the middle of it so you can control the messaging. It's obvious that's what he's been doing...and our lapdog media fell right into his vortex of charm and absolute certainty.

MASTER OF UNIVERSE 1 hour ago

Dr. Anthony Fauci is the world's biggest Epidemiological Research funding chair in the entire existence of global university research into anything Epidemiology. He has been in full control of the funding arm of Epidemiological Research for decades, and he, as well as Gates et al. think that they are untouchables.

This is how Gates & Fauci were able to align with DARPA, CIA, Fort Detrick U.S. Army, and the global research networks of Epidemiology.

The United Kingdom is heavily linked to this and the main Epidemiological BSL-4 in Britain also deployed a bioweapon for the UK variant mix that both M-I6, CIA, Mossad, Five-Eyes lackeys all intended on attacking the world with so that they had control via Fourth Generation Biowarfare given that Western Intelligence knows it is effin' screwed via whole system insolvency.

CIA are douchebags.

MOU

sbin 38 minutes ago remove link

Wuhan lab was a patsy.

charlieparker 1 hour ago (Edited) remove link

Fauci never struck me as an evil genius. Just a mediocre, greedy administrator with no empathy or conscience. His true role is that of a fall guy. He's only got one plan left, now he is this exposed.

1. Lie through his teeth.

2. If that doesn't work, blame Daszak.

After the way my entire life has been ruined by this Covid-19 farce, it will be some compensation to see these two c****s go down. Imagine having nearly the entire world blame you for starting a pandemic, whether it is real or fake! Silly sods must have thought that the people pulling their strings would protect them.

George Bayou 1 hour ago

Notice how Fauci always talks in statistics? That's because to him the individual doesn't matter. "GoF is worth the risk." He is willing to risk millions in the chance that he will be viewed as a heroic scientist.

Jack Offelday 1 hour ago remove link

Just show us the smoking gun: Fauci's signature on the grant documents.

Max21c 10 minutes ago

Together, the three professors have received nearly 200 grants from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), with 75 coming from Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).

The Pentagon is guilty, the CIA is guilty, the National Security Council is guilty. Fauci is just the front man.

Clearing 28 minutes ago

As I have said many times on this site, and as Chris Martenson said well over a year ago (see his Youtube videos), Fauci approved this funding to help his chums. It's simply criminal negligence. He knew "gain of function" "research" was simply witchcraft and BS. And how many people have died because his Dr. Strangelove friends decided to goose SARS? Fauci and his friends are simply criminal scum.

Londo 1 hour ago (Edited) remove link

Fauci has nothing to do with it. Pentagon has a secret bio weapon unit operating as a branch of NIH, CDC. Fauci and the rest of NIH, CDC have no authority ,oversight over it.

Which is very interesting, why is the Pentagon funding bio weapons research,call it gains of function if you like, in Wuhan ?

I could be wrong. It might be a CIA operation. Time frame when Pompeo was CIA director. Everything fits.

Max21c 13 minutes ago

Together, the three professors have received nearly 200 grants from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), with 75 coming from Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).

Fauci may be guilty of collaborating with the secret police and state security apparatus but the intelligence community knew about this and was likely onboard in backing and supporting the intelligence/spying operation...

Max21c 15 minutes ago (Edited)

Together, the three professors have received nearly 200 grants from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), with 75 coming from Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).

And this likely was initially concealed from the public and covered up by the official media because it likely points to the Obama era intelligence community and Obama era National Security Council and Obama era Pentagon... These types of intelligence community operations are generally not ad hoc and require considerable lead time... So anything funded in 2017 was being planned in the years beforehand...

Jack Offelday 1 hour ago

Fauci has all the earmarks of a psychopath.

Somebody from Berlin 59 minutes ago (Edited)

He is one, plain an simple. That is not a smear or derogative term for him, that is the objective truth.

Max21c 8 minutes ago

Summary: Washington & Washingtonians instead of acting appropriately and encouraging China not to engage in gain of function research instead wanted to play silly little spy games and funded the actual biological warfare programs of the PLA that they should have not collaborated in and should have stood steadfastly against.

The Industrial accident may not have been their fault but all the horrible mismanagement of the pandemic afterwards is on Washingtonians. What came after the industrial accident is entirely the fault of Washingtonians. They made a mess of things. They mishandled it. They were inept, incompetent, incoherent, and ineffective. Taiwan has 12 deaths as of today. The USA has 500,000 deaths. Quality of government matters as does quality of leadership and bureaucracy and political class competency all upon which Washingtonians miserably fail.

wootendw PREMIUM 14 minutes ago remove link

"LeDuc, whose earliest grant can be traced to 2006, has received 32 grants from the NIAID, according to the NIH registry. He runs the Galveston National Laboratory, which was " constructed under grants awarded by the NIAID/NIH."

Saif, who counts funding from NIAID since 1985, has received a total of 56 grants from the NIH, 43 of which came from Fauci's NIAID.

And Relman, who's been funded by the NIH since 1996, has received 90 grants from the NIH. He has also received the NIH's Pioneer Award and the Transformative Research Award."

Lock each of them up in a no-human-contact, padded cell for the rest of their lives, feeding them dog food and water through a hole at the bottom of the door.

twh99 26 minutes ago

Gene editing might be useful, especially if you are researching benign viruses and want to see how they work.

But doing Gain of Function work on dangerous viruses should be illegal. There is no possible good outcome with that type of research. In fact I would hazard that the only people who want that research are those who are developing bio weapons.

Posa 40 minutes ago

Dr David Relman, who attended the 2017 conference has been publicly skeptical for many months. He recently told the NYPost :

"We're reasonable scientists with expertise in relevant areas and we don't see the data that says this must be of natural origin."

[May 14, 2021] Ron Paul confrontation with Fauci on gain of functions experiments

Pretty explosive set of interview arguing from artificial origin of COVID-19...
Includes C-span footage of confrontation of Ron Paul and Fauci as well very interesting interview of Dr. Richard M. Fleming as well as pretty reveling interview of Dr. Peter Daszak - EcoHealth Alliance who was financed mainly by the Department of Defense and serve as intermediary for Wuhan labs financing from Fauci.
May 14, 2021 | thehighwire.com
THE DEFINITION OF A BIO-WEAPON


Fauci Denies NIH Funding; Defining a Bioweapon; CDC Stops Looking for Vaccine Failure; The Growing Toll of Vaccine Injury; Eric Clapton's Powerful Message #TheHighWire #EricClapton #StandAndDeliver #NIH #GainOfFunction

Broadcasted 5/13/21 2:00pm - 5/13/21 4:12pm

[May 13, 2021] CDC slaps Fauci face: Fully Vaccinated People Can Stop Wearing Face Masks, Physical Distancing in Most Settings by Brianna Abbott

May 13, 2021 | www.wsj.com

People who have been fully vaccinated should still follow precautions in doctor's offices, airports, nursing homes, the agency recommends

Fully vaccinated people don't need to wear a mask or physically distance during outdoor or indoor activities, large or small, federal health officials said, the broadest easing of pandemic recommendations so far.

The fully vaccinated should continue to wear a mask while traveling by plane, bus or train, and the guidance doesn't apply to certain places like hospitals, nursing homes and prisons, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday.

The fully protected can, however, resume doing many of the things they had to give up due to the pandemic, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said.

"We have all longed for this moment, when we can get back to some sense of normalcy," Dr. Walensky said. "That moment has come for those who are fully vaccinated."

The CDC considers people fully vaccinated either two weeks after receiving their second dose of an mRNA vaccine, such as the one from Pfizer Inc. PFE 1.03% and partner BioNTech SE or Moderna Inc., MRNA -1.84% or two weeks after getting the single-shot vaccine from Johnson & Johnson .

[May 13, 2021] Rand Paul Continues Fauci Feud; States that He Could Be Culpable For The Entire Pandemic

May 13, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

MAY 13, 2021

Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News (emphasis ours)

Senator Rand Paul continued to slam White House medical advisor Thursday, saying that Anthony Fauci could be culpable for the entire coronavirus pandemic.

Paul was attacked by leftist media Wednesday for merely questioning Fauci's extensive role in granting funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology at a Senate hearing.

CNN's Anderson Cooper declared that Paul should "have more respect at least for medical science."

Paul hit back, noting that Fauci is lying about the NIH's involvement in funding of the Wuhan lab .

Now in a further appearance on Fox And Friends , Paul has gone even deeper, accusing Fauci of being personally to blame for the global pandemic.

" The person they hired to investigate the lab for the WHO perspective is the guy who gave the money ," Paul urged.

" So NIH gave the money to EcoHealth. The head of EcoHealth – they got him to investigate whether Wuhan was doing anything inappropriate in their lab. But if they were then wouldn't he be culpable? " The Senator questioned.

" Doesn't he have a self interest in smoothing things over ," Paul continued, adding "I'm not saying he did cover things up but you wouldn't appoint someone who is in the line of the supply chain of giving the money to them."

"Ultimately here's the rub. I don't know whether it came from the lab. But who could be culpable? Dr. Fauci could be culpable for the entire pandemic!" Paul emphasised.

As Infowars reported in April 2020 , the NIH awarded a $3.7 million grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to conduct coronavirus gain of function research.

Additionally, the results of the US-backed gain of function research at Wuhan was published in 2017 under the heading, " Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus ."

Fauci has come under increased scrutiny as the NIH's involvement with the Wuhan lab is being called into question.

[May 11, 2021] Sen. Paul Shreds Fauci Over 'Gain-Of-Function' Funding

May 11, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Paul alleged that the National Institutes of Health (NIH) had used a middle-man to funnel money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology via EcoHealth Alliance - which worked with the lab on bat coronavirus projects.

Paul specifically referenced so-called "gain-of-function" research which in this case has been focused on how to make animal viruses more transmissible to humans - specifically bat coronaviruses .

"Government scientists like yourself who favor gain of function research," Paul began...

...only to have Fauci interject "I don't favor gain of function research in China," adding "You are saying things that are not correct."

Paul pushed back - continuing:

"[Those who favor gain of function] say that COVID-19 mutations were random and not designed by man."

"I do not have any accounting of what the Chinese may have done," Fauci shot back, adding that he's in favor of further investigation, but that the NIH had nothing to do with the origins of COVID-19.

"We have not funded gain of function research on this virus in the Wuhan Institute of Virology," he added.

"No matter how many times you say it, it didn't happen."

More from Sen. Paul via Twitter:


Senator Rand Paul @RandPaul · May 11, 2021 Dr Fauci dissembled or tried to hide his long time support for 'gain-of-function' research which creates super-viruses that jump from animals to humans.

ohm 4 hours ago (Edited) remove link

You can't sit on your thumbs and run year long investigations and background checks while thousands are dying .

But that's just the point, thousands were not dying . Instead of seeking out opposing viewpoints, he relied on the bogus Ferguson model that predicted 2 million deaths presented by Fauci and Birx. Plenty of qualified opposing voices were out there - John Ionnides of Stanford for instance. Trump needs to own up to his mistakes and vow not to repeat them.

nodhannum 3 hours ago

How many renminbi do they pay you comrade...as in be "han" or be gone. I've been to a number of seminars given by Fauci back in his HIV days but he is a lying sob now. It's getting hard for the fellow to cover hisw *** now even with the Maserati marxists in power here.

Plus Size Model 1 hour ago

https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/who-we-are/nih-director/statements/nih-lifts-funding-pause-gain-function-research

smallblockchevy350 3 hours ago

Rand 2024. I wanted Rand over Trump in 2016 too, but the MSM memed Trump into being the GOP candidate somehow.

replaceme 5 hours ago

So now fauci is on record lying about it, nice.

HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 5 hours ago

Yeah. Classic psychopath. He can't help himself at this point.

win95o PREMIUM 5 hours ago remove link

Why would Fauci say the following in 2017:

"There will be a surprise outbreak"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=puqaaeLnEww

YesitsTrue98 4 hours ago

"We are not prepared for a pandemic," Biden tweeted on Oct. 25, 2019, saying the country needs leadership that "mobilizes the world to stop outbreaks before they reach our shores."

this_circus_is_no_fun 4 hours ago

At first Fauxi denied the allegation. Then, after Paul cornered him with facts, Fauxi said something like "this is why we did that". So, he admitted that he did what he was denying just a few seconds before . He is literally incapable of telling the truth. I guess he's not called Fauxi for nothing.

adonisdemilo 5 hours ago

Fauci has known from day one what's going on and going wrong. He's up to his neck in it and taking a good look at his body language under questions from Rand Paul, HE'S CONTINUING TO LIE.

chinese.sniffles 5 hours ago

Dr. Fauci:

Have you or your team send or granted permission for work projects to Wuhan or China?

What were those projects?

Why did you send them?

Why did you not do these projects in the USA?

Were any of these projects illegal in the USA?

etc. simple line of questioning, let him perjure himself.

thezone 5 hours ago

Fauci (the politician) knew to not write a check out to the lab directly. It was great to hear Dr Paul bring up EcoHealth. A shell company to facilitate.

surfer4444 5 hours ago

Exactly, blame it on the sub contractor....an old game and the elite are using it well

radical-extremist 5 hours ago remove link

Fauci knows full well the story in the Democrat State News media will be about how he was ATTACKED by Rand Paul, and not about him lying under oath about funding the Wuhan Lab.

chiquita 5 hours ago

This information has been out for a while if you follow War Room, Steve Hilton, and some other sources. Peter Navarro has been hammering at Fauci relentlessly for the last few months and now the MSM is going after Navarro, trying to discredit him. Gee, I wonder why when it looks like the truth about Fauci is falling apart.

What a mess_man 4 hours ago (Edited)

Tucker blew this wide open last night. Of course lots of us here knew all this many months ago. Fauci is lying through his teeth here, and both he and Daszak are deep in the Chicom's pockets. As Tucker said, in a functioning world there would be a criminal investigation. Instead Biden and Co. kiss his *ss and make him our foremost authority on Covid and vaccines. Clown world for sure.

Meatballs 3 hours ago (Edited)

Actually, Saagar beat Tucker to the punch. Either way, the unraveling has begun.

https://youtu.be/6Pk0wLN5uuU

vic and blood PREMIUM 2 hours ago remove link

Don't let the bioweapon profiteer, Daszak, off the hook.

Both greedy psychopaths should hang for their crimes against humanity.

Furthermore, we have no business sharing infectious disease technology with China, even if they could run a lab properly.

Itinerant 4 hours ago

This story is about 14 months old, though not for the MSM.

Actual documentation of the grants from the NIH via the Eco Alliance have been circulating in the public domain for all that time. In it they exactly describe the gain-of-function research that is being outsourced to China, the viruses involved, the methods, the type of experiments, and the aims of the research ... exactly and technically.

There is no room for caveats, or 'allege' or interpretation or anything like that.
The evidence is rock hard and crystal clear.

toady 4 hours ago

Yet there are no prosecutions.

dogbert8 5 hours ago remove link

Finally, the unmasking (pun intended) of Fauci has started.

bsdetector 5 hours ago

Just listened to the questions and answers. Fauci qualifies his answers with information that was not sought in the questions. His answers change the character of his denials... "we did not fund GOF research on this virus in the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

OK Dr. Fauci, please identify the viruses that you did fund for GOF research at the Institute.

Jack Mayorhaufer 5 hours ago

master gaslighters once they reach certain status and paygrade on the Hill

novictim 2 hours ago remove link

"I don't know how many times I can say it? We did not fund gain of function research to be done in the Wuhan Institute of Virology ...(under his breath) because we funded Eco Health Alliance/Peter Daszak which granted the research funding to do gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

CleeTorres 2 hours ago

A simple internet search shows Fauci is lying about funding for this research. But he knows the media won't do their jobs.

Onthebeach6 2 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Let me assist Dr Fauci with the truth.

Why US outsourced bat virus research to Wuhan

Dr Christina Lin

April 2020

"A U.S. NIH-funded $3.7 million project was approved by Trump's Covid-19 advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci in 2015, after the Obama White House imposed a ban on 'monster-germ' research. In October 2014, the federal government declared a moratorium on gain-of-function research to weaponize viruses related to influenza, Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) and severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). As a result, the research was outsourced to China's Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is currently at the center of scrutiny for the Covid-19 pandemic."

https://www.ispsw.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/689_Lin.pdf

boyplunger7777 4 hours ago remove link

Fauci looks very nervous . Perhaps why he has been so adamant about constantly moving the goalposts? If you were guilty of something wouldn't you keep changing the focus and appear to be very helpful and concerned?

Max21c 3 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Which people in & around the National Security Council, CIA, and Pentagon are involved in this attempt to gain access, penetrate and spy on the PLA Biological Weapons/Warfare programs via funding mechanisms route? Which people had contact with this institute and programs and what if anything did the spy games produce?

When are they in Washington going to establish civilian rule over the US military and CIA and National Security Council?

When are they going to knock off these silly spy games and spy world operations off and stop this nonsense which produces zero positive results?

What did the gangsters on the Intelligence/Spy Committees in Congress know? What did the gangsters atop the Pentagon, CIA, National Security Council know?

Which Washingtonian assholes are going to go to prison for this boomerang disaster?

How many other groups similar to "EcoHealth Alliance" operate as part of the US/UK intelligence "community" and what other stupid stuff are the idiots mixed up in?

TheRapture 3 hours ago remove link

There is a great deal of evidence (NIH, State Dept grants to offshore USA bioweapons research, Bat Lady was the protege of Dr. Ralph Baric at UNC who has been doing coronavirus bioweapon research for more then twenty years, initial and simultaneous infections in Wuhan at different locations suggesting an intentional release, etc., etc., etc.) And of course, Trump had motive, opportunity and means to stage a false flag to destroy China's economy and damage China's political relations with other countries.

It is likely the USA, no doubt using a CIA proxy, released SARS-CoV-2 in simultaneously in multiple locations in Wuhan. The evidence is substantial. But most Americans can't bring themselves to stare down that particular rabbit hole.

WorkingClassMan 3 hours ago

I'd rather an honest CCP commie ruling the roost than those traitors anyway.

"If I had but one bullet and were faced by both an enemy and a traitor, I would let the traitor have it."
― Corneliu Zelea Codreanu, For My Legionaries

sarret PREMIUM 3 hours ago

Fauci is such a liar, pulling school kid mentality out of a hat to answer serious questions. Likely in his mind he knows it all to be true but since the correct name is 中国科学院武汉病毒研究所 then unless you say that name, or the exact name of the exact subsidiary that was funding or was being funded, then it is not correct and therefore he can answer the question incorrectly without calling himself a liar internally and without saying what the error was in the question that led him to be able to this.

In all respects he just disregards the spirit of the question when he knows full well that he is in the wrong, but denies it every single time based on some concocted fabrication in his mind that the question is not precise enough to nail him to the cross.

Completely disingenuous, can't trust a word he says.

Fish Gone Bad 4 hours ago

Lawyer speak:

We have not funded gain of function research on this virus

They funded all kinds of gain of function on all kinds of permutations of the virus, just not THIS virus.

radical-extremist 5 hours ago remove link

Fauci is also responsible for the deaths of hundreds of men in San Francisco by covering up Bath Houses as the origin of the spread of AIDS...for Mayor Diane Feinstein's political career. No one dares talk about this today.

the Mysterians 5 hours ago

"I did not have sex with that woman!"

Flying Monkees 5 hours ago (Edited)

What could possibly be the reason for gain-of-function research if not bio-warfare?

These evil, irresponsible, arrogant a-holes need to pay.

Posa 5 hours ago

The Eco-Alliance grant from Fauci's NIAID states

We will use S [ie the Spike Protein that makes the SC-2 virus highly infectious] protein sequence data, infectious clone technology, in vitro and in vivo infection experiments and analysis of receptor binding to test the hypothesis that % divergence thresholds in S protein sequences predict spillover potential.

That has been interpreted as a commitment to Gain of Function research on the Spike Protein which is the key to turning SARS into a virulently transmissible pathogen.

surfer4444 5 hours ago remove link

Exactly...im just baffled how this PoS can blatantly lie to a Senate committee and get away with it...there is zero accountability in our government...end times

Posa 5 hours ago

Fauci can lie because his audience is a convention of lazy, cowardly , illiterate dunces. If Rand Paul were serious he would have had the damn grant in front of him and read the same quotes as I provided in this post. PAul would have held these hearings last year when his Party controlled the Senate.

Posa 4 hours ago

NOTE: This post was censored by The Hill. Typical free speech in America.

George Bayou 5 hours ago

"11 labs in the US create these super-viruses in the US and one of them collaborated with Wuhan Virology Inst -- Fauci has supported NIH funds for all these labs!"

Why is this a-hole still working?

notfeelinthebern 4 hours ago (Edited)

Yap, yap,. yap. Another dog and pony show and the show is painfully old. They parade personage after personage before congress and ask lots of questions. The swamp rats in the hot seat lie by omission and with sleight of hand answers and when done with the act walk away with smug faces....The show must go on.

George Bayou 5 hours ago

Here's an interesting article on Dr. Baric and what he was doing, mutating virus using serial passaging so that the virus are able to infect a completely different species:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/coronavirus-lab-escape-theory.html

Take, for instance, this paper from 1995: "High Recombination and Mutation Rates in Mouse Hepatitis Viruses Suggest That Coronaviruses May Be Potentially Important Emerging Viruses." It was written by Dr. Ralph Baric and his bench scientist, Boyd Yount, at the University of North Carolina. Baric, a gravelly voiced former swim champion, described in this early paper how his lab was able to train a coronavirus, MHV, which causes hepatitis in mice, to jump species, so that it could reliably infect BHK (baby-hamster kidney) cell cultures. They did it using serial passaging: repeatedly dosing a mixed solution of mouse cells and hamster cells with mouse-hepatitis virus, while each time decreasing the number of mouse cells and upping the concentration of hamster cells. At first, predictably, the mouse-hepatitis virus couldn't do much with the hamster cells, which were left almost free of infection, floating in their world of fetal-calf serum. But by the end of the experiment, after dozens of passages through cell cultures, the virus had mutated: It had mastered the trick of parasitizing an unfamiliar rodent. A scourge of mice was transformed into a scourge of hamsters. And there was more: "It is clear that MHV can rapidly alter its species specificity and infect rats and primates," Baric said. "The resulting virus variants are associated with demyelinating diseases in these alternative species." (A demyelinating disease is a disease that damages nerve sheaths.) With steady prodding from laboratory science, along with some rhetorical exaggeration, a lowly mouse ailment was morphed into an emergent threat that might potentially cause nerve damage in primates.

GeneKelly 5 hours ago remove link

"We have not funded gain of function research on this virus in the Wuhan Institute of Virology,"

Sociopaths can lie without registering on a detector by simply defining terms differently in their cerebral cortex and then answering -- from their perspective truthfully -- "no" because the question doesn't match their internal definition.

So Fauci wasn't funding "gain of function". He was actually funding "increasing the virulence of pathogens" or "enhancing the pathogens' ability to infect different species".

Rand and others will have to ask the question a hundred ways to force Fauci to spill the beans.

DeeDeeTwo 1 hour ago remove link

Tucker finally called Fauci a "criminal" at least twice and said, "In any functioning society Fauci would be investigated."

Txjac 5 hours ago

Fauci also owns the patents on the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines

Everybody All American 5 hours ago remove link

How is it that only one Congressman dare questions Dr. Fauci? One tough questioner. These cowards all need to hang for the crimes they are allowing. If they think we are just going to sit back and watch this man for much longer lead us they are sadly mistaken.

Downhill from here 5 hours ago

Being an MD, Paul has some credibility on the topic. At least educationally and by training, Fauci and Paul are peers.. More than likely other R's are letting him take point.

replaceme 5 hours ago (Edited)

I forgot, that's the same dr daszak that sent the letter to the lancet saying that covid didn't come from Wuhan, and that he had no reason to falsely say this. THAT Dr daszak. Got it.

Wilde1 2 hours ago remove link

https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/anthony-fauci-40-years-of-lies-from-azt-to-remdesivir/

Totally_Disillusioned 2 hours ago (Edited)

"We [NIH/Fauci] did not fund gain of function research to be done in Wuhan." What the weasel didn't say is that the NIH did in deed fund Dr Baric who was working in collaboration with Wuhan with gain of function experiments on the SARS virus. Baric worked with Ft Dettrick and Univ NC researchers who in turn were collaborating with Canada and Wuhan.

Fauci can parse words but he's a traitor and ought to be held responsible along with all others involved with this.

scraping_by 5 hours ago (Edited) remove link

One amendment to the story --

Carlson was quoting a story by Nicholas Wade, former science editor to the NYT. Published in Medium. So it's not just a talking head repeating newsroom copy, as in CNN.

zorrosgato 14 minutes ago remove link

Fauci is part of a flawed system and don't be fooled in believing he is part of any solution. His endorsing of impractical mask mandates along with mandatory vaccinations of the population, using unproven genetically engineered drugs is proof enough.

https://medium.com/swlh/mrna-therapy-a-new-form-of-gene-medicine-5d859dadd1e

Looking4 6 hours ago

wonder which university in North Carolina could possibly be involved in this ???? :) to be sure they would not have a "bat lab"...would they?

[May 10, 2021] How many times can a declared "expert" be wrong before they are not an expert anymore!

Notable quotes:
"... Ask an economist. Wrong more than 50% of the time and still fully employed. When was the last time an economist got fired for being wrong? ..."
Apr 15, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com
lwilland1012 1 hour ago

How many times can a declared "expert" be wrong before they are not an expert anymore!

INTJ Economist 1 hour ago

Ask an economist. Wrong more than 50% of the time and still fully employed. When was the last time an economist got fired for being wrong?

[May 09, 2021] Economists Disagree Over How Much Covid-19 'Herd Immunity' Needed for Recovery

There is no or very little (depending of type of vaccine) immunity from South African mutation in the USA for people who already were vaccinated.
From comments: "Herd Immunity or Heard on the Street immunity? COVID was way over-played in order to get Biden in the WH. Now the shoes on the other foot and the Herd Concept is eroding pretty darn fast"... "Here in the US, it's undeniable that the quantity of covid cases were intentionally over counted -- likely for political reasons."
"If the re-infection rate is near zero and those who are the most vulnerable are 95% inoculated why should the remaining unvaccinated (mostly youth) be needed to reach herd immunity? Their reaction to COVID-19 is either undetectable or no worse than a mild cold. Some people, journalists, just do not want to think and/or act logically."
Notable quotes:
"... For example, there is no herd immunity from South African mutation in the USA for those who were immunized with the Moderna vaccine and Johnson and Johnson vaccine ..."
"... And more mutations will follow this and the next year. So the concept of "herd immunity" when applied to coronaviruses looks to me fuzzy; in this sense this is the goal that the nation probably can't achieve. Remember the "flattering of the curve" fiasco in NYC. Quarantine measures were completely decimated by Floyd-gate riots and authorities were forced to swallow the bitter pill. Measures they advocated proved to be useless and economically damaging. ..."
"... Coronaviruses like C19 are a moving target. Moreover, there are large swats of the US population that have weakened immune system (including some seniors) who that does not respond to vaccination, creating no protection. In large cities like NYC they will serve as the reservoir of virus mutations vaccination, or no vaccination. ..."
"... We have Fauci making unfounded statements that confuse everyone and now economists are going to tell us when herd immunity will become operative. Can't do any worse than the 'media docs'. ..."
May 09, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Some view herd immunity -- the point at which a critical mass of a population become immune to a disease-causing virus or bacteria -- as a key factor in determining when Covid-19 will be conquered and economies will return to normal. Until herd immunity is reached, some say, governments will restrict activities to prevent the disease's spread, resulting in fewer goods and services being produced and consumed.

Other economists say businesses can reopen and economic activity can rebound without full herd immunity, and likely will.

Part of the challenge for economists is that it is hard to know exactly when a given place will achieve herd immunity, if ever. For Covid-19 , epidemiologists generally believe it will require having at least 60% to 80% of a population develop antibodies, curbing the virus's ability to spread.

... ... ...

Economists at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. have tried to incorporate immunity estimates into their forecasts by looking at daily vaccination progress around the world and take account of estimates of how many people have already been infected.

According to their calculations, 60% of the population in the U.S. and U.K. are already immune to Covid-19; the biggest economies of Europe will get there by August.

Serg Bezrukov

I agree with Umesh Patil.

For example, there is no herd immunity from South African mutation in the USA for those who were immunized with the Moderna vaccine and Johnson and Johnson vaccine .

And more mutations will follow this and the next year. So the concept of "herd immunity" when applied to coronaviruses looks to me fuzzy; in this sense this is the goal that the nation probably can't achieve. Remember the "flattering of the curve" fiasco in NYC. Quarantine measures were completely decimated by Floyd-gate riots and authorities were forced to swallow the bitter pill. Measures they advocated proved to be useless and economically damaging.

Coronaviruses like C19 are a moving target. Moreover, there are large swats of the US population that have weakened immune system (including some seniors) who that does not respond to vaccination, creating no protection. In large cities like NYC they will serve as the reservoir of virus mutations vaccination, or no vaccination.

Rick Schaler SUBSCRIBER 3 hours ago

We have Fauci making unfounded statements that confuse everyone and now economists are going to tell us when herd immunity will become operative. Can't do any worse than the 'media docs'.

Umesh Patil

SUBSCRIBER

[May 08, 2021] Dr. Henry Ealy and his team started looking at CDC data on COVID-19 cases and fatalities in mid-March 2020, quickly realizing the agency was vastly exaggerating fatalities

May 08, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com


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Greed is King 1 hour ago

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/04/18/cdc-violated-law-to-inflate-covid-cases-and-fatalities

[May 06, 2021] Aldous Huxley Foresaw Our Despots - Fauci, Gates, The Vaccine Crusaders

This is starting to look really like staging of "Brave new world..." Today's society is closer to Huxley's "Brave New World" than to Orwell's "1984". But there are clear elements of both. If you will, the worst of both worlds has come true today.
May 06, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Patricia McCarthy via AmericanThinker.com,

In 1949, sometime after the publication of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four , Aldous Huxley, the author of Brave New World (1931), who was then living in California, wrote to Orwell. Huxley had briefly taught French to Orwell as a student in high school at Eton.

Huxley generally praises Orwell's novel, which to many seemed very similar to Brave New World in its dystopian view of a possible future. Huxley politely voices his opinion that his own version of what might come to pass would be truer than Orwell's. Huxley observed that the philosophy of the ruling minority in Nineteen Eighty-Four is sadism, whereas his own version is more likely, that controlling an ignorant and unsuspecting public would be less arduous, less wasteful by other means. Huxley's masses are seduced by a mind-numbing drug, Orwell's with sadism and fear.

The most powerful quote In Huxley's letter to Orwell is this:

Within the next generation I believe that the world's rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience.


Aldous Huxley.

Could Huxley have more prescient? What do we see around us?

Masses of people dependent upon drugs, legal and illegal. The majority of advertisements that air on television seem to be for prescription drugs, some of them miraculous but most of them unnecessary. Then comes COVID, a quite possibly weaponized virus from the Fauci-funded-with-taxpayer-dollars lab in Wuhan, China. The powers that be tragically deferred to the malevolent Fauci who had long been hoping for just such an opportunity. Suddenly, there was an opportunity to test the mRNA vaccines that had been in the works for nearly twenty years. They could be authorized as an emergency measure but were still highly experimental. These jabs are not really vaccines at all, but a form of gene therapy . There are potential disastrous consequences down the road. Government experiments on the public are nothing new .

Since there have been no actual, long-term trials, no one who contributed to this massive drug experiment knows what the long-term consequences might be. There have been countless adverse injuries and deaths already for which the government-funded vaccine producers will suffer no liability. With each passing day, new side-effects have begun to appear: blood clots, seizures, heart failure.

As new adverse reactions become known despite the censorship employed by most media outlets, the more the Biden administration is pushing the vaccine, urging private corporations to make it mandatory for all employees. Colleges are making them mandatory for all students returning to campus.

The leftmedia are advocating the "shunning" of the unvaccinated. The self-appointed virtue-signaling Democrats are furious at anyone and everyone who declines the jab. Why? If they are protected, why do they care? That is the question. Same goes for the ridiculous mask requirements . They protect no one but for those in operating rooms with their insides exposed, yet even the vaccinated are supposed to wear them!

Months ago, herd immunity was near. Now Fauci and the CDC say it will never be achieved? Now the Pfizer shot will necessitate yearly booster shots. Pfizer expects to make $21B this year from its COVID vaccine! Anyone who thinks this isn't about money is a fool. It is all about money, which is why Fauci, Gates, et al. were so determined to convince the public that HCQ and ivermectin, both of which are effective, prophylactically and as treatment, were not only useless, but dangerous. Both of those drugs are tried, true, and inexpensive. Many of those thousands of N.Y. nursing home fatalities might have been prevented with the use of one or both of those drugs. Those deaths are on the hands of Cuomo and his like-minded tyrants drunk on power.

Months ago, Fauci, et al. agreed that children were at little or no risk of getting COVID, of transmitting it, least of all dying from it. Now Fauci is demanding that all teens be vaccinated by the end of the year! Why? They are no more in danger of contracting it now than they were a year ago. Why are parents around this country not standing up to prevent their kids from being guinea pigs in this monstrous medical experiment? And now they are " experimenting " on infants. Needless to say, some have died. There is no reason on Earth for teens, children, and infants to be vaccinated. Not one.

Huxley also wrote this:

"The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' -- this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats ."

- Crome Yellow

Perhaps this explains the left's hysterical impulse to force these untested shots on those of us who have made the decision to go without it. If they've decided that it is the thing to do, then all of us must submit to their whims. If we decide otherwise, it gives them the righteous right to smear all of us whom they already deplore.

As C.J. Hopkins has written , the left means to criminalize dissent. Those of us who are vaccine-resistant are soon to be outcasts, deprived of jobs and entry into everyday businesses. This kind of discrimination should remind everyone of ...oh, Germany three quarters of a century ago. Huxley also wrote, "The propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain other sets of people are human." That is precisely what the left is up to, what BLM is planning, what Critical Race Theory is all about.

Tal Zaks, Moderna's chief medical officer, said these new vaccines are "hacking the software of life." Vaccine-promoters claim he never said this, but he did. Bill Gates called the vaccines " an operating system " to the horror of those promoting it, a Kinsley gaffe. Whether it is or isn't hardly matters at this point, but these statements by those behind the vaccines are a clue to what they have in mind.

There will be in the next generation or so a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude and producing dictatorship without tears , so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them but will rather enjoy it.

This is exactly what the left is working so hard to effect: a pharmacologically compromised population happy to be taken care of by a massive state machine. And while millions of people around the world have surrendered to the vaccine and mask hysteria, millions more, about 1.3 billion, want no part of this government vaccine mania.

In his letter to Orwell, Huxley ended with the quote cited above and again here because it is so profound:

Within the next generation I believe that the world's rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience.

Huxley nailed the left more than seventy years ago, perhaps because leftists have never changed throughout the ages. 61,497 173


Fat Beaver 14 hours ago (Edited)

If i am to be treated as an outcast or an undesirable because i refuse the vax, i will immediately become someone that has zero reverence for the law, and i can only imagine 10's of millions will be right there with me.

strych10 14 hours ago

Welcome to the club.

We have coffee in the corner and occasional meetings at various bars.

Dr. Chihuahua-González 13 hours ago

I'm a doctor, you could contact me anytime and receive your injection.

Fat Beaver 13 hours ago (Edited)

I've gotta feeling the normie world you think you live in is about to change drastically for the worse...

sparky139 PREMIUM 10 hours ago

You mean you'll sign papers that you injected us *wink *wink? And toss it away?

bothneither 2 hours ago

Oh geez how uncommon, another useless doctor with no Scruples who sold out to big Pharma. Please have my Gates sponsored secret sauce.

Unknown 6 hours ago (Edited)

Both Huxley and Orwell are wrong. Neoliberalism (the use of once office for personal gains) is by far the most powerful force that subjugates the inept population. Neoliberalism demolished the mighty USSR, now destroying the USA, and will do the same to China. And this poison dribbles from the top to bottom creating self-centered population that is unable to unite, much less resist.

Deathrips 15 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Tylers.
You gonna cover Tucker Carlsons show earlier today on FOX news about vaxxx deaths? almost 4k reported so far this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIJQuk-qK2o

19331510 14 hours ago (Edited)

https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/death-stats

AGE Deaths

0-24 23

25-50 184

51-65 506

66-80 1164

81-100 1346

U 321

R.I.P.

Joe Joe Depends 13 hours ago

India up in arms about mere 1%

spanish flu was 3%

JimmyJones 9 hours ago

Is the population of india up in arms or is the MSM?

Nelbev 10 hours ago

Facebook just flagged/censored it, must sign into see vid, Tuck also failed to mention mRNA and adenovirus vaxes were experimental and not FDA approved nor gone through stage III trials. Beside deaths, have blood clot issues. Good he mentioned how naturally immune if get covid and recovered, better than vaccine, but not covered for bogus passports. Me personally, I would rather catch covid and get natural immunity than be vaccinated with an untested experimental vaccine.

19331510 14 hours ago

Covid19 links.

Websites:

https://www.americasfrontlinedocs.com/media/

https://covid19criticalcare.com/

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/

https://www.constitutionalrightscentre.ca/category/news/

https://doctors4covidethics.medium.com/

https://www.flemingmethod.com/

https://gbdeclaration.org/

https://www.lifesitenews.com/

https://healthimpactnews.com/

https://www.mercola.com/

https://drleemerritt.com/

https://www.drtenpenny.com/

https://principia-scientific.com/

https://standupcanada.solutions/canadian-doctors-speak

https://thehighwire.com/

https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/ https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/links/general-links/

Video Sharing : https://www.bitchute.com/ ; https://brandnewtube.com/ ; https://odysee.com/ ; https://rumble.com/ https://superu.net

Healthcare Professionals :

Dr. Jayanta Bhattacharya; Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche; Dr. Ron Brown; Dr. Ryan Cole; Dr. Richard Fleming; Dr. Simone Gold; Dr. Sunetra Gupta; Dr. Carl Heneghan; Dr. Martin Kulldorff; Dr. Paul Marik; Dr. Peter McCullough; Dr. Joseph Mercola; Dr. Lee Merritt; Dr. Judy Mikovits; Dr. Dennis Modry; Dr. Hooman Noorchashm; Dr. Harvey Risch; Dr. Sherri Tenpenny; Dr. Richard Urso; Dr. Michael Yeadon;

A list of Canadian doctors: https://standupcanada.solutions/canadian-doctors-speak

Lawyers : Dr. Reiner Fuellmich; Rocco Galati;

Drug Adverse Reaction Databases:

http://www.adrreports.eu/en/index.html (Search; Suspected Drug Reactions Reports for Substances) COVID-19 MRNA VACCINE MODERNA (CX-024414); COVID-19 MRNA VACCINE PFIZER-BIONTECH; COVID-19 VACCINE ASTRAZENECA (CHADOX1 NCOV-19); COVID-19 VACCINE JANSSEN (AD26.COV2.S)

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html

Research papers :

https://cormandrostenreview.com/report/ (pcr tests)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/ (face masks)

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/eci.13484 (lock downs)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2026670 (child/teacher morbidity)

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.01.20222315v1 (transmission by children)

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm (masks/restaurants)

https://www.mdpi.com/1648-9144/57/3/199 (biased trial reporting)

Covid19 links.

Websites:

https://www.americasfrontlinedocs.com/media/

https://covid19criticalcare.com/

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/

https://www.constitutionalrightscentre.ca/category/news/

https://doctors4covidethics.medium.com/

https://www.flemingmethod.com/

https://gbdeclaration.org/

https://www.lifesitenews.com/

https://healthimpactnews.com/

https://www.mercola.com/

https://drleemerritt.com/

https://www.drtenpenny.com/

https://principia-scientific.com/

https://standupcanada.solutions/canadian-doctors-speak

https://thehighwire.com/

https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/ https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/links/general-links/

Video Sharing : https://www.bitchute.com/ ; https://brandnewtube.com/ ; https://odysee.com/ ; https://rumble.com/ https://superu.net

Healthcare Professionals :

Dr. Jayanta Bhattacharya; Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche; Dr. Ron Brown; Dr. Ryan Cole; Dr. Richard Fleming; Dr. Simone Gold; Dr. Sunetra Gupta; Dr. Carl Heneghan; Dr. Martin Kulldorff; Dr. Paul Marik; Dr. Peter McCullough; Dr. Joseph Mercola; Dr. Lee Merritt; Dr. Judy Mikovits; Dr. Dennis Modry; Dr. Hooman Noorchashm; Dr. Harvey Risch; Dr. Sherri Tenpenny; Dr. Richard Urso; Dr. Michael Yeadon;

A list of Canadian doctors: https://standupcanada.solutions/canadian-doctors-speak

Lawyers : Dr. Reiner Fuellmich; Rocco Galati;

Drug Adverse Reaction Databases:

http://www.adrreports.eu/en/index.html (Search; Suspected Drug Reactions Reports for Substances) COVID-19 MRNA VACCINE MODERNA (CX-024414); COVID-19 MRNA VACCINE PFIZER-BIONTECH; COVID-19 VACCINE ASTRAZENECA (CHADOX1 NCOV-19); COVID-19 VACCINE JANSSEN (AD26.COV2.S)

https://www.openvaers.com/

Research papers :

https://cormandrostenreview.com/report/ (pcr tests)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/ (face masks)

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/eci.13484 (lock downs)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2026670 (child/teacher morbidity)

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.01.20222315v1 (transmission by children)

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm (masks/restaurants)

https://www.mdpi.com/1648-9144/57/3/199 (biased trial reporting)

Ultramarines 15 hours ago (Edited)

His making of the gamma and delta workforce was quite prescient. We are seeing it play out now, we all know gammas and delta. There was a really good ABC tv movie made in 1980 Brave New World. Excellent show, it shows the Alphas and names them Rothchild and so on. Shows what these people specifically want to do to the world. I wonder if the ruling psychopaths actually wait for science fiction authors to plan the future and then follow their script.

Mineshaft Gap 10 hours ago

If Huxley were starting out today no major publisher would touch him.

They'd tell him Brave New World doesn't have a diverse enough of cast. Even the mostly likable totalitarian guy named Mustapha turns out to be white! A white Mustapha. It's soooo triggering. Also, what's wrong with a little electronic fun and drug taking, anyway? Lighten up , Aldous.

Meanwhile his portrait of shrieking medieval Catholic nuns who think they're possessed in The Devils of Loudun might remind the leftist editors too uncomfortably of their own recent bleating performances at "White Fragility" struggle sessions.

Sorry, Aldous. Just...too...problematic.

[May 03, 2021] Tucker Carlson Says People Who Wear Masks Outside Should Be Mocked by Paul Joseph Watson

Apr 27, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,

Leftists reacted with fury after Fox News host Tucker Carlson said people who wear masks outside should be mocked and that parents who made their kids wear them were engaging in "child abuse."

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Carlson noted that masks were "purely a sign of political obedience like Kim Il-Sung pins in Pyongyang" and that the only people who voluntarily wear masks outside are "zealots and neurotics."

He then asserted that the tables should be turned on Biden voters who have been harassing conservatives for almost a year for not wearing a mask in public.

"The rest of us should be snorting at them first, they're the aggressors – it's our job to brush them back and restore the society we were born in," said Carlson.

"So the next time you see someone in a mask on the sidewalk or on the bike path, do not hesitate. Ask politely but firmly, ' Would you please take off your mask? Science shows there is no reason for you to be wearing it. Your mask is making me uncomfortable, " he added.

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"We should do that and we should keep doing it until wearing a mask outside is roughly as socially accepted as lighting a Marlboro on an elevator."

The Fox News host went on to call mask wearing "repulsive" while asserting that forcing children to wear masks outside should be illegal.

"Your response when you see children wearing masks as they play should be no different from your response to seeing someone beat a kid in Walmart. Call the police immediately. Contact Child Protective Services. Keep calling until someone arrives," Carlson said.

"What you're looking at is abuse, it's child abuse, and you are morally obligated to attempt to prevent it," he added.

As expected, Carlson immediately began trending on Twitter, with hysterical leftists hyperventilating over Tucker once again challenging their cult. Many called for the Fox News host to be fired while others ludicrously described him as a "national security threat."

As we highlighted yesterday , even Dr. Fauci now admits that the risk of vaccinated people spreading COVID outside is "minuscule," and yet some health professionals are pushing for the mask mandates to be made permanent.

The transmission of COVID-19 outdoors is almost non-existent, making mask mandates merely a political tool of population control.

In a recent open letter to the German government and state premiers, five leading members of the Association for Aerosol Research (GAeF) wrote, "The transmission of SARS-CoV-2 viruses takes place indoors almost without exception. Transmission outdoors is extremely rare and never leads to cluster infections as can be observed indoors."

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Fiscal.Enema 8 hours ago (Edited)

In all fairness... Tucker should have pointed out that SOME MASKS do filter out the virus most of the time.

Wearing a mask outdoors in most situations is ridiculous, stupid, and dangerous.

3M N95's 1860 which are electrostatically charged have good filtration protection against most virus.

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-Health-Care-Particulate-Respirator-and-Surgical-Mask-1860-N95-120-EA-Case/?N=5002385+3294795990&rt=rud

Why the us government did not fund this type of mask for all is telling what the overall strategy is.

Controlling you, your neighbor, and others that think for themselves.

Its not about the virus

Robert Neville 7 hours ago

Actually, M95 masks filter out 95% of particles over 4 microns in diameter in perfect conditions. In the real world it is much less effective than that. Viruses are generally less than one micron in size so they are ineffective for most viruses. Also, the masks are so hard to breath through that some version have an exhale valve so they do nothing to protect others if you are infected. Most masks don't protect your eyes. The only thing that works is a space suit that is decontaminated before you remove it. The rest is virtue siganling.

Fiscal.Enema 6 hours ago

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2012/04/lab-study-supports-use-n95-respirators-flu-protection

PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT!

Properly fitted n95's do protect against virus and the science proves it.

Dickweed Wang 10 hours ago (Edited)

This is an excerpt from the "Stanford Study" from November 2020 (that's been making the rounds in the alternative media and conservative media space recently) about the uselessness of masks in preventing "the virus":

A meta -analysis among health care workers found that compared to no masks, surgical mask and N95 respirators were not effective against transmission of viral infections or influenza-like illness based on six RCTs [28] . Using separate analysis of 23 observational studies, this meta -analysis found no protective effect of medical mask or N95 respirators against SARS virus [28] . A recent systematic review of 39 studies including 33,867 participants in community settings (self-report illness), found no difference between N95 respirators versus surgical masks and surgical mask versus no masks in the risk for developing influenza or influenza-like illness, suggesting their ineffectiveness of blocking viral transmissions in community settings [29] .

It's predictable that the usual suspects have come out of the woodwork to "fact check" and disparage the entire paper (do an internet search for 'Stanford Mask Paper' and you'll see what I'm talking about). Their main criticism is 'that wasn't published by Stanford', while they totally ignore the claims made in the paper. When you look at the people and organizations doing the fact checking it really shows that the entire mask issue is a political/control ploy. Here's the link to the entire paper if anyone is interested:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

[May 03, 2021] You re not a medical genius, Anthony. You re our agent. Just do your job. A conversation in Hell by Jon Rappoport

Mar 17, 2021 | blog.nomorefakenews.com

Anthony Fauci steps off a small boat floating in a river at the bottom of a great cavern. A lamp cuts into the darkness and illuminates a small table and two chairs. Fauci walks to the table and sits down. He is joined by his old mentor, whose name is unknown.

It’s been a long time, Anthony. Remember me?

Of course. But why am I here?

You need a refresher, Anthony. You’ve been wobbling badly. Apparently you’ve forgotten our first lesson.

I was in medical school then. That’s when we promised you significant rewards if you performed well for us. That day, I told you: you need to lie with CONSISTENCY.

Yes, sir. And I’ve obeyed your order.

No you haven’t. You’ve cooked a goose and a cake in the same pan. You’ve said it was raining and not raining. You’ve worn only a jock strap and spread sunscreen on your body in the Arctic, and you’ve bundled up at the Equator. You’re a mess.

I didn’t mean to be a mess.

I’m not interested in excuses. I’m going to straighten you out. I want you to pay close attention. Otherwise, you go in the Lake of Fire.

I’m VERY sorry, sir…

You said masks were useless. Later you said people should wear two. You admitted the vaccine was experimental, implying the people were guinea pigs. Then you said the vaccine was absolutely safe and effective. You said asymptomatic people never drive an epidemic by transmitting a virus. Then you said millions of asymptomatic people who merely tested positive were a major source of transmission. You said running the PCR at 35 cycles or higher yielded meaningless results. But labs all over the world are running the test at 40 cycles. You’ve turned into a buffoon. A clown.

I’ve made a few mistakes. I’ll correct them.

It’s too late. The cat is out of the bag.

Then what can I do?

Ignore your past contradictions. As if they never happened. You’re a matinee idol to millions of soccer moms. They’re bubble brains. They can’t think their way out of a wet paper bag. Climb back on the straight and narrow. Claim the test is very accurate, the case and death numbers are alarming, more lockdowns will be necessary, new mutations of the virus are here, and people must take vaccine. And THAT’S ALL. Don’t try to EXPLAIN things. That’s when you screw the pooch. You’re not a medical genius, Anthony. You’re our agent. Just do your job.

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[May 02, 2021] When Politicians Panicked by John Tamny

May 01, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by John Tamny via TheMarket.ch,

Let's travel back in time to March of 2020. It was then that predictions of mass death related to the new coronavirus started to gain currency. One study, conducted by Imperial College's Neil Ferguson, indicated that U.S. deaths alone would exceed 2 million.

The above number is often used as justification for the initial lockdowns. "We knew so little" is the excuse, and with so many deaths expected, can anyone blame local, state and national politicians for panicking? The answer is a resounding yes.

To see why, imagine if Ferguson had predicted 30 million American deaths, and hundreds of millions more around the world. Imagine the global fear, which is precisely the point. The more threatening a virus is presumed to be, the more superfluous government force is. Really, who needs to be told to be careful if a failure to be could reasonably result in death?

Death predictions aside, the other justification bruited in March of 2020 was that brief lockdowns would flatten the hospitalization curve. In this case, the taking of freedom allegedly made sense as a way of protecting hospitals from a massive inflow of sick patients that they wouldn't have been able to handle, and that would have resulted in a public health catastrophe. Such a view similarly vandalizes reason. Think about it.

Really, who needs to be forced to avoid behavior that might result in hospitalization? Better yet, who needs to be forced to avoid behavior that might result in hospitalization at a time when doctors and hospitals would be so short staffed as to not be able to take care of admitted patients?

Translated for those who need it, the dire predictions made over a year ago about the corona-horrors that awaited us don't justify the lockdowns; rather they should remind the mildly sentient among us of how cruel and pointless they were. The common sense that we're to varying degrees born with, along with our genetic predisposition to survive, dictates that a fear of hospitalization or death would have caused us to take virus-avoidance precautions that would have well exceeded any rules foisted on us by politicians. Goodness, masks and hand sanitizers were selling out in Germany at a time when politicians were still downplaying the virus.

Vital Signals Get Lost

To which some will reply with something along the lines of "Not everyone has common sense. In truth, there are lots of dumb, low-information types out there who would have disregarded all the warnings. Lockdowns weren't necessary for the wise among us; rather they were essential precisely because there are so many who aren't wise." Actually, such a response is the best argument of all against lockdowns.

Indeed, it cannot be stressed enough that "low information" types are the most crucial people of all during periods of uncertainty. Precisely because they'll be unaware of, misunderstand, or reject the warnings of the experts, their actions will produce essential information that the rule-followers never could. In not doing what the allegedly wise among us will, low information citizens will, by their contrarian actions, teach us what behavior is most associated with avoidance of sickness and death, and more important, what behavior is associated with it.

One-size-fits-all decrees from politicians don't enhance health outcomes as much as they blind us to the actions (or lack thereof) that would protect us the most, or not. Freedom on its own is a virtue, plus it produces crucial information.

But wait, some will say, "how elitist to let some people act as Guinea Pigs for the rest of us." Such a statement is naïve. Heroin and cocaine are illegal, but people still use both. Thank goodness they do. How could we know what threatens us, and what doesn't, without the rebellious?

Economic Growth Is the Best Medicine

Still, there's the question of "elitism," or comment about it. The view here is that the lockdowns were the cruelest form of elitism, by far. The implied statement about the lockdowns was that those who had the temerity to have jobs that were destinations would have to lose them. The lockdowns destroyed tens of millions of destination jobs, destroyed or severely impaired millions of businesses, not to mention the hundreds of millions around the world who were rushed into starvation, poverty or both as a consequence of nail-biting politicians in rich countries that chose to take a break from reality. Talk about elitist actions, plus the very idea of wrecking the economy as a virus-mitigation strategy will go down in history as one of the most abjectly stupid policy responses the world has ever endured.

That's the case because economic growth is easily the biggest enemy death and disease have ever known, while poverty is easily the biggest killer. Economic growth produces the resources necessary so that doctors and scientists can come up with answers to what needlessly sickens us or shortens our lives altogether.

If anyone doubts the above truth, it's useful to travel back in time to the 19th century. A broken femur then brought with it a 1 out of 3 chance of death, while those lucky enough to survive the break had only one option: amputation. A child born in the 19th century had as good a chance of dying as living. A broken hip was a death sentence, cancer most certainly was, but most didn't die of cancer because tuberculosis and pneumonia got them first.

So what happened? Why don't we get sick or die as easily as we used to? The answer is economic growth. Business titans like Johns Hopkins and John D. Rockefeller created enormous wealth, only to direct a lot of it toward medical science. What used to kill us became yesterday's news.

Even though freedom is its own wondrous virtue, even though freedom produces essential information that protects us, and even though free people produce the resources without which diseases kill with sickening rapidity, panicky politicians erased it in 2020 on the supposition that personal and economic desperation were the best solution for a spreading coronavirus. Historians will marvel at the abject stupidity of the political class in 2020.

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takeaction 16 hours ago (Edited)

No politician panicked...

Everything going as planned...NOW.

First we have Trump accidentally beating Hillary(The cheating machine goofed). This was the Dems ultimate f&^k up. He was NEVER supposed to win. Then the plan was taken off the shelf. We must destroy Trump...economy is booming, and he will win re-election if we don't do something fast. So then came the cheating plan. Create a pandemic (Make the next wave of normal flu into a huge boogie man)...this will force mail in ballots, which we can stuff and fake....and then we can clean up and Joe is in. While we are at it...let's crush the economy...hand out money like crazy and raise taxes. We want more people depending on just the government and wipe out small business. While we are at it...let's see how far the people will follow...Masks....Social Distancing etc. and then try to force an untested vaccine on the pleabs. The plan is much more integrated and complex then this...but this is how I feel it is going down.

NOTE: Starting yesterday here in Portland Oregon all restaurants are no longer to have indoor dining. Gyms...no matter how big are only allowed 6 people. We are being locked down again...Our Governor is insane. Remember...We have had "Cheat by Mail" since 1998 in Oregon and it is very clear what has happened and is going on with our elections. Oh yeah...Tonight is the May Day Antifa Riots downtown. More fun.

One final note...remember when they said "We just have to flatten the curve". Well...that was a lie...as with most other claims from anybody with power.

Hypocritical lying pieces of s^%t. All of them. And what is really sad is the majority of folks following orders. Sorry for the long rant. Just super pissed.

mijev 15 hours ago remove link

Imagine that you'd spent a year in the wilderness with no access to tv or the internet and you get told that there's been a pandemic. So you ask what happened in the most densely populated country in the world, Singapore, which is basically a massive cruise ship. "Oh, they had 35 deaths."

LetThemEatRand 15 hours ago

I would rethink the part about Trump not being part of the plan. Remember it is Trump himself who wants the vaccine called the Trumpcine. It is kind of bizarre how so many people believe the entire virus thing is part of a NWO plan but still think Trump was riding a white horse to save us. He was one of the four horsemen, maybe.

sleeping on a volcano 14 hours ago

Trump is not only a vaccine pimp. His cabinet was the swamp personified. He hired bill barr (check out his history with ruby ridge and waco), he hired chris wray (check out his investments in russia via king & spaulding). Trump ABANDONED the people HE INVITED to the capitol. Trump, the lifelong democrat, his progeny are also dems, is either complicit or even dumber than the MSM claims he is. I think it's pretty obvious.

NoDebt 16 hours ago (Edited) remove link

The view here is that the lockdowns were the cruelest form of elitism, by far.

What do you mean WERE? They are still happening and being rapidly reintroduced in many areas they had previously been lifted.

And I'm going to let you in on a little secret: They'll happen again. Over and over as political expediency dictates. They will NEVER end. And nobody in the elites will EVER admit they are a mistake because they aren't. They are a PLAN.

adr 15 hours ago remove link

For the first time in history, nobody anywhere in the world died of the Flu.

The United States officially recognized 1713 cases of the flu from September 1st 2020 to April 30th 2021.

Did you know that every single Covid PCR test can't tell the difference between Covid and Influenza A, B, H1N1 and all other variants?

Go look up the technical documents. It is written on the first page under the bold type, FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY, NOT TO BE USED AS A DIAGNOSTIC TEST.

Fauxchi has never answered the question, can the PCR test be used to diagnose an infection?

GoodyGumdrops 15 hours ago

I know people who agreed with the lockdowns and the mask mandates. I now know their true character Their livelihood wasn't affected by these draconian rules, so they had no problem turning a blind eye to those who were being affected.

When the lockdowns started, that's when I knew this wasn't about a cold/flu virus. It made absolutely no sense to shut down businesses worldwide and to force people to lose their income. The consequences of these lockdowns in the near future will be incalculable.

[Apr 30, 2021] Watch- Fauci Justifies Children Wearing Masks Outside -- 'They Are More at Risk of Getting Infected'

Apr 30, 2021 | www.breitbart.com

28 Apr 2021

During a Wednesday appearance on NBC's "Today," White House chief medical adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci discussed the new mask guidelines that allow vaccinated people to go outside without masks.

Host Savannah Guthrie asked Fauci when kids are going to be able to play without masks.

[Apr 30, 2021] Nolte- Dr. Fauci Is Either a Liar or a Fraud

Apr 30, 2021 | www.breitbart.com

Mea culpa: I spent a lot of time on these here digital pages defending Dr. Anthony Fauci. Brother, was I wrong. Fauci is a stone-cold liar. And if he's not a stone-cold liar, his only defense is that he is a fraud. Either way, shame on him and me.

For months Fauci has been everywhere, all over TV, urging Americans to lock themselves down, to abandon their jobs, their sick and dying family members, the small businesses they spent their lives getting off the ground; he urged us to drive our economy into the dirt, pull children who desperately need structure out of school, forgo once-in-a-lifetime graduations and graduation parties, cancel weddings and vacations

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Fauci's message was clear, militant, terrifying, and relentless: If you don't do these things, if you don't sacrifice these things, if you don't give up your liberty and prosperity, you are no better than a serial killer. The coronavirus is a unique and deadly killer, a particularly infectious and fatal disease unlike anything we've seen in more than a century.

And because Fauci became America's trusted scientific (and moral) authority, because he assured us he spoke only as a scientist and infectious disease expert, because he assured us he would always tell us like it is, and do so at any cost because public health was his only priority, look at what happened

A woman was arrested for reopening the business that fed her family. Christians were persecuted for attending church in the safety of automobiles. Teens were held up to national ridicule for behaving like teens in Florida and the Ozarks. Countless Americans suffered untold anguish after hospital visits were forbidden and funerals canceled. Everyday Americans were relentlessly demonized for daring to speak out or even question the Holy Writ of Fauci

And God help those who came out to protest the lockdowns, because bitter, power-hungry tyrants such as Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI) and the hate-filled media that empower her, waved the Holy Writ of Fauci to justify smearing these Americans as racists and punishing them with lockdown extensions.

Heh, heh, heh Take that, Deplorables!

All this was allowed, all the inhumanity, all the flagrant violations of our Constitutional rights, all these Kafka-esque rules that protected Big Businesses like Walmart and further empowered massive corporations like Amazon, while small business withered and died. Democrat New York Mayor Bill de Blasio was finally allowed to openly practice his antisemitism All this was excused and even made virtuous by the Holy Writ of Fauci and the Cult of Personality he allowed to build up around his heroic fidelity to facts, science, and public health.

Well, we now know Fauci is either a fraud or liar.

We know this because for ten whole days Fauci said nothing as the Perfect Infection Storm hit America, as massive violations of social distancing and lockdowns took place all across the country (including the Ground Zero of New York City). There it was, everywhere Fauci's nightmare scenario come to vivid life: crowd after massive gathering after mob after parade Protesters and rioters shouting, shoulder to shoulder -- and Fauci said nothing And when he did finally speak out, it was to squeak on some local radio station.

Worse still, Fauci said nothing as the very same sanctimonious health care workers and "experts" who used the emotional blackmail of "We're at work for you, stay home for us" came out in full-throated support of leaving home and gathering in massive crowds.

So, which is it

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Is Fauci a fraud or liar?

Was all his talk about concern for public health, his duty to tell it like it is no matter the personal or political fallout, just a big lie? Is he a fraud who still believes these mass gatherings are a nightmare scenario, but is unwilling to use his massive public platform to say so out loud because shaming protesters who hold the "approved" views among America's hideous elite would risk Fauci feeling the disapproval of those elites?

Or is he a liar, does he in fact know the coronavirus is nowhere near as deadly as he played it up to be? Is he a liar who misled us into agreeing to destroy our amazing economy in order to undermine the Bad Orange Man's re-election?

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Either way, Fauci's a sociopath. Either he's a sociopath who furthered his political ambitions and abused his authority and public trust to talk hundreds of millions of Americans into shattering their own lives and mental wellbeing when there was no real danger, or he's a sociopath who chooses the good opinion of elites over raising the alarm to save the lives of thousands and thousands of protesters, and the countless millions those thousands will infect.

What kind of man raises the alarm about the fact the black population is disproportionately killed by this virus and then remains silent as the black population gathers en masse, and remains silent as his fellow healthcare workers openly encourage the mass gathering of black America?

I'm almost as disgusted with myself for trusting Fauci as I am with him.

Never again will I trust the "experts."

Fuck them.

Fuck them all forever.

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[Apr 30, 2021] Fauci's Failures - Wellness Forum Health by Pamela Popper

Jul 03, 2020 | wellnessforumhealth.com

Fortunately, the public no longer has to listen to daily briefings by Fauci and Birx, two of the most incompetent doctors in the U.S. In my opinion, both should lose their jobs and Fauci should lose his medical license (Birx no longer holds a medical license) because they used bad information provided by unreliable sources to make policy recommendations that resulted in death and devastation throughout the U.S. Many people might refer to this as malpractice.

Suicides and overdose deaths increased exponentially as people became despondent over factors like isolation, economic ruin, and food insecurity. Child and spousal abuse increased. Murders increased. Nursing home patients died as a result of neglect when family members no longer could visit and supervise their care. People died who could not access medical treatment while hospitals and other facilities were closed and all resources were set aside for the COVID patients who never showed up.

The debacle starts with a model developed by Neil Ferguson of the Imperial College of London which predicted that tens of millions of people would die due to COVID-19 infection. COVID-19 was compared to the Spanish flu, which killed approximately 50 million people in 1918. Ferguson's report stated that the only way to prevent massive deaths would be for the entire population of the planet to be locked down and for people to remain separated for 18 months until a vaccine was available. Total isolation would be needed because the isolation of just vulnerable populations like the elderly would only reduce deaths by half. [1]

Ferguson's report was deemed so convincing that the World Health Organization, which had previously stated that lockdowns were not effective for containing infectious diseases, recommended that the world follow China's example, which included mandatory lockdowns and contact tracing. [2]

It seems that nobody, including Fauci and Birx, checked out Ferguson's background. In 2002, he predicted that 150,000 people would die from Mad Cow Disease, but only 2704 died. His estimation was 55 times higher than the real number. A few years later he predicted that 65,000 people would die of swine flu, and only 457 people died – his estimation was 142 times higher than the real number. [3] And his prediction of deaths from bird flu was 200,000,000 and only 455 people died – a prediction 439,560 times higher than the real number. [4]

As of June 8, total deaths worldwide had reached 410,000 – not tens of millions – and even this number is questionable. This time Ferguson was off not by thousands or hundreds of thousands – but by millions. And the average age at death was 80, with almost all who died having multiple co-morbidities. This hardly justifies destroying the lives of hundreds of millions of people by locking them down.

It seems that people who claim to be as smart as Fauci and Birx might think to check out the track record of the person who recommended such extreme measures prior to taking action. I'm regularly told by my critics that I'm not nearly as smart as Fauci, yet we do this type of checking in our office as standard procedure. One might also assume that the World Health Organization would check out Ferguson's track record prior to making decisions that would affect over seven billion people. Apparently not. Yet there are those who still listen to and revere these doctors and the WHO. Amazing!

A group of researchers at Stanford Prevention Research Center published an article on June 11 expressing significant concerns about both the models, some of which were not accompanied by any disclosure concerning methodology, and the actions taken in response. What resulted was a misallocation of hospital resources, and unjustified delayed healthcare for non-COVID patients. The researchers also point out the negative impact on mental health, increased unemployment, the loss of health insurance, prospect of starvation, and the potential spread of other infectious diseases as just some of the negative consequences of the grossly incompetent actions of Fauci and Birx and their brainwashed followers.

Here are some examples of the disparities cited between predictions and reality in individual states:

New York

Prediction: up to 140,000 hospital beds and 40,000 intensive care units with ventilators would be required

Reality: 18,569 hospitalizations and 4908 intensive care units required. (Predictions almost 87% off on both)

Tennessee

Prediction: 15,500 hospital beds, 2500 ICU beds and 2000 ventilators would be needed to keep people alive

Reality: 1232 hospital beds, 245 ICU beds and 208 ventilators required 92% and 90% off respectively), projected loss of $3.5 billion in revenue by Tennessee hospitals by June 30 as a result of cessation of non-COVID patient care.

California

Projection: up to 1.2 million beds would be required.

Reality: COVID patients occupy less than 5% of California hospital beds, and less than 20% of ICU beds

Georgia

Massachusetts General Hospital projected over 23,000 deaths in Georgia within a month of opening the economy and the actual number was only 896 (almost 96% off).

The Stanford Group listed reasons for this debacle which included lack of expertise; groupthink and the bandwagon effect; and selective reporting (otherwise known as lying). In other words, top health officials in the U.S. and in many states were incompetent and willing to blindly follow what others said without question, and then lied about it.

The researchers also note that this is not a new problem and expressed surprise that forecasting is still used given its "dubious track record." One of the reasons, they say, is that there are no serious consequences for people who make these bad decisions. To this point, as of the writing of this article, Fauci and Birx have not been criminally indicted for the death and destruction they have caused, and have not even been fired from their jobs.

The Stanford group goes on to write that even if a calamity the size of which the models predicted were to occur, policies like lockdowns have little impact on the death rate and generally do more harm than good, and add that exaggerated forecasts " may cause more harm than the virus itself." [5]

It's somewhat amazing that in view of his colossal failure, Fauci now has the nerve to say that the problem is not him or his incompetence. It's Americans. Instead of an apology, he takes us all to task in a recent podcast, stating that " for reasons that are inconceivable and not understandable – they just don't believe science and they don't believe authority." He goes on to say that "science is truth," which is true, but Fauci has not used science – he used information provided by a known charlatan who had been grossly mistaken before. Not able to help himself, he likens those of us who listened to him lie every day on national television and determined that he was a fraud to "anti-vaxxers" who do not want to be vaccinated even though, according to Fauci, the science clearly supports their safety. He never backs down, never admits he's wrong. [6]

We must do everything possible to make sure that Fauci, Birx, state health directors, and elected officials will at some point stand trial for their crimes against humanity. And we must take back our freedoms and liberties and our government so that this can never happen again.

[1] Ferguson NM, Laydon D, Nedjati-Gilani G et al. "Report 9: Impact of non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) to reduce COVID-19 mortality and healthcare demand." Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team March 16 2020

[2] World Health Organization, Non-Pharmaceutical Public Health Measures for Mitigating the Risk and Impact of Epidemic and Pandemic Influenza , October 2019; World Health Organization, "Considerations for Quarantine of Individuals in the Context of Containment for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)," March 19, 2020.

[3] National CJD Research and Surveillance Unit. "Disease in the UK (By Calendar Year." University of Edinburgh May 4 2020

[4] Sturcke J. "Bird flu pandemic could kill 150,000." The Guardian Sept 30 2005

[5] Ioannidis JPA, Cripps S, Tanner MA. "Forecasting for COVID-19 has failed." International Institute of Forecasters June 11 2020 https://forecasters.org/blog/2020/06/14/forecasting-for-covid-19-has-failed/

[6] Caplan J. "Anthony Fauci: Americans 'Don't Believe Science and They Don't Believe Authority" Breitbart News Jun 18 2020

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[Apr 30, 2021] The Fervent Fraud of Dr. Fauci by Bill Robinson

Apr 30, 2021 | www.wmal.com

The following is authored by a non-clinician.

I never liked Dr. Fauci, his diminutive stature, gravelly voice or Napoleonic, tough guy attitude. He seemed to me the consummate phony. His actions have all but confirmed this to be true.

When the pandemic first began in earnest, Fauci was packaged up and sold to the president and worried American populace as "the foremost epidemiologist in America" and innumerable other permutations of this outright falsehood.

Based on the past year, Anthony Fauci is nothing of the sort; he's not even close to the "foremost," "most prominent" or "most respected" epidemiologist this country has.

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Those titles would go to Dr. Ian Lipkin at Columbia University, who traveled to China to investigate the Wuhan virus in February of 2019 when Dr. Fauci was still calling cable media outlets scheduling his countless appearances.

Or, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University, whose been questioning and shattering Fauci's flip-flopping and dangerous advice to Americans from the beginning. Dr. Bhattacharya is also a co-author of the Great Barrington Declaration which is a foundational document laying out precisely how the cure was worse than the virus and why we have been taken to the cleaners in listening to those only wanting to keep us inside, masked up and economically decimated.

Dr. Martin Kulldorff is another infectious disease expert and professor of Medicine at Harvard University, who has consistently spoken out against Fauci's advice and prognostications.

Dr. Harvey Risch of the Yale School of Public Health is yet one more of the brave warriors fighting the tidal wave of lies, disinformation and propaganda inflicted on worried Americans in crisis. He went after Fauci like a centurion on the hydroxychloroquine swindle Fauci peddled for the last year.

These four examples of actual doctors who could've likely helped the world in this emergency have been real researchers and actual, live hands-on doctors with stethoscopes working with actual COVID patients.

When was the last time Fauci saw a patient and provided treatment, if ever? Even today, I have yet to see evidence he ever set foot in a COVID ward and showed any interest whatsoever in what Americans were going through. You can be sure there'd have been a media circus if he did.

This person, so instrumental in terrifying 330 million Americans for the last year is clearly some kind of a charlatan, empty vessel clearly reminding us of someone else with new-found, unlimited power.

We were told Fauci had been a fairytale hero of the AIDS crisis in the 1980s. We were told he was a savior of the SARS virus. And we were told repeatedly by a complicit press that he was just the man to beat the daylights out of COVID-19. Again, here he was nothing of the sort.

The real truth about Dr. Fauci is that he did very little to solve the AIDS or SARS problems and actually made them worse. His real goal, it seems, was conducting vast media campaigns touting his own imaginary triumphs to be used later for more false hopes in a medical crisis.

Just look at the last year of his consistently wrong pronouncements, demands and admittedly outright lies to the American people such as flip-flopping on masks, lockdowns, treatments, and so on.

Likewise, his continual stabs to discredit the idea of herd immunity was bizarre, and his advice has led to tens of millions of American students being sequestered for a year or more with his inanity.

Whether intentional or not, Fauci has been a willing and intentional pawn of the Marxist Left in this country. Regardless of his intent, he's been a failure in every respect.

And of course, he still had false adulation ladled on him by our mainstream media like a well-basted Thanksgiving turkey throughout all his decades of quiet fiascoes.

Yet, in spite of it all, Fauci is the highest paid government employee in the country -- more than the president -- and his lightning-quick conversion to "chief medical advisor to President Biden," shows not only his utter lack of any loyalty but that his previous decrees were highly suspect.

As Fauci's reign of blundering and misinformation comes to an end, there's little doubt that all Americans have a tough lesson to be learned from all this chicanery.

Don't automatically trust or assign any credibility whatsoever to a doctor or politician. Is this case, Fauci was both.

Bill Robinson has appeared on Fox News, CNN, PBS, Bloomberg, BBC and had his own segment on SKY News. For seven years was the only Conservative columnist for the insufferably Liberal Huffington Post. Bill may be reached at : [email protected] Read Bill Robinson's reports -- More Here.

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[Apr 30, 2021] The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity - Flip-flopping Fauci's ridiculous idea of masking children proves he's compl

Apr 30, 2021 | www.ronpaulinstitute.org

Flip-flopping Fauci's ridiculous idea of masking children proves he's completely lost touch with reality written by robert bridge tuesday march 30, 2021 undefined

At a time when the US urgently needs a trusted voice of authority in the fight against Covid, it has instead received a smooth-talking snake oil salesman hawking politically tainted advice to an unsuspecting public.

Despite my best efforts to resist such sentiments, there is something bizarrely likeable about Anthony Stephen Fauci, 80, who serves as the chief medical adviser to the US president. And judging by his amazing staying power, millions of other Americans seem to feel the very same way.

Fauci comes off as the charismatic uncle who's always the center of attention at the dinner table with stories so fantastic that you want to believe they are true. It's that sort of mesmeric charm that could explain why this man has been so successful at sweet-talking America into medically-induced bondage for the next year, or decade, or maybe even forever? Who knows? Certainly not Anthony Fauci, that's for sure – the man who has turned flip-floppiness into a veritable field of science.

For example, who else but Washington's famous Covid guru could have convinced Americans, already at their wits' end over lockdowns, social distancing and an infernal mask regime, to roll up their sleeves for a vaccine, while also telling them it will do nothing to free them from lockdowns, social distancing and the infernal mask regime? To be perfectly blunt, selling that 'used car' to the public would require some superhuman bulls**tting abilities, with which Fauci seems to be inordinately endowed.

"I would recommend to people to not to abandon all public health measures just because you've been vaccinated," Fauci told CNN with a perfectly straight face. "Because even though for the general population it might be 90 to 95 percent effective, you don't necessarily know for you how effective it is."

America just shrugged its weary shoulders, unquestioningly accepting the gibberish as gospel because it came out of the mouth of Anthony Fauci. There was one person, however, who was not fooled by the silver-tongued fox, and that was US Senator Rand Paul. In an epic exchange during a Senate hearing on Covid, Paul, himself a medical doctor, told Fauci that continuing to wear a mask after infection or vaccination was mere "theater."

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"You've been vaccinated and you parade around in two masks for show," Paul told Fauci in a dressing down long in the making. "You are defying everything we know about immunity by telling people [who have been vaccinated or previously infected] to wear a mask Do you want to get rid of 'vaccine hesitancy'? Tell them to quit wearing the mask after they get the vaccine! Give them a reward instead of telling them that the nanny state is going to be there for three more years and you got to wear a mask forever."

Fauci disagreed, saying, "masks are not theater, masks are protective."

Whatever the case may be, Paul's challenge to the formerly unassailable Fauci seems to have given others courage to speak out, because days later, the Wall Street Journal published an opinion piece by Dr. Marty Makary, a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, who dared mention the elephant in the hospital room – herd immunity.

Makary took exception with Fauci and his argument that the country needs to vaccinate 70 to 85% of the population to reach herd immunity from Covid-19. Why? Because Fauci, a strong advocate for vaccines, "inexplicably ignores natural immunity" which occurs when people are exposed to the disease.

"Undercounting or removing the many Americans with natural immunity from any tally of herd immunity is a scientific error of omission," Makary wrote. "When people wonder why President Biden talks about limiting Fourth of July gatherings, it's because [Anthony Fauci] has dismissed the contribution of natural immunity, artificially extending the timeline."

After a year of examining "millions of Covid-19 cases in the US, it's clear that reinfections are rare," he continued. "Natural immunity is real and shouldn't be ignored."

Amid this tepid yet growing pushback from the US political and medical communities, you would think that Anthony Fauci would practice some moderation, perhaps even ease up on his draconian proposals. In fact, just the opposite is happening. Over the weekend, in an interview on CBS' 'Face the Nation', Fauci said that children, who have shown a remarkable natural ability to fight off Covid, should wear masks around each other – even outdoors in the fresh air.

"When the children go out into the community, you want them to continue to wear masks when they're interacting with groups or multiple households," he said.

When asked whether children can return to summer camp and playgrounds this summer, Fauci refused to give a definite answer, even though Covid infections are dropping across the country, saying only that it was "conceivable that will be possible."

Fauci's comments come even as it is being demonstrated how ineffective masks are in preventing the spread of the disease. On March 10, Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced the termination of coronavirus restrictions in his state, much to the dismay of health officials. Two weeks later, however, the average number of daily new cases of the coronavirus in Texas decreased by 42.5%.

Such optimistic news, far from providing hope that a return to some semblance of normalcy is on the horizon, only gives people like Fauci more incentive to push on with measures that fly in the face of science and common sense. In short, they are tyrannical measures being pushed by would-be tyrants drunk on power.

Depriving children of the best years of their life against an almost nonexistent threat cannot be justified as anything other than an abuse of power – 'child abuse', to be more precise.

Anthony Fauci should be exposed as the charlatan he is. America needs someone who truly respects science, as opposed to merely someone who hides behind it for ulterior motives that have nothing in common with public health.

Reprinted with permission from RT .

[Apr 30, 2021] Charlatan Fauci -- US weighs 3-foot distancing rule, a major change

And where was his institute with its multimillion budget. Why they did not research the problem and adopting this idiotic 6 feet rule. Such a charlatan.
Mar 14, 2021 | www.yahoo.com

The United States' top pandemic advisor said Sunday that authorities were considering cutting social distancing rules to three feet (one meter), a move that would change a key tenet of the global fight against Covid-19.

Anthony Fauci, a world-respected figure during the coronavirus crisis, said experts at the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) were examining a Massachusetts study that found "no substantial difference" in Covid cases in schools observing six-foot and three-foot rules.

Asked on CNN's "State of the Union" show whether that meant that a three-foot separation was sufficient, Fauci replied, "It does, indeed."

While cautioning that the CDC was still poring over the new data and conducting tests of its own, he said its findings would come "soon."

The six-foot social distancing rule has been a widely-adopted global measure to prevent the spread of the coronavirus, along with mask-wearing and hand-washing.

School officials across the world are under enormous pressure to fully reopen as soon as safely possible, but many say the six-foot requirement makes it extremely difficult without adding portable classrooms or shortening the school day.

Many teachers unions have also insisted on six-foot distancing.

Policies on reopening schools and businesses have varied sharply across the US and around the globe as government try to balance quelling infections with a return to normal life.

The study led by the Beth Deaconess Medical Center in Massachusetts, surveying 251 school districts, found "no substantial difference in the number of cases of Covid-19 among either students or staff" between those observing the three- and six-foot rules when all wore masks.

The findings, published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases, add to a growing body of evidence that Covid-19 transmission rates are low in schools.

...A three-foot rule would have an enormous impact on prospects for fully reopening schools, offices and even public areas such as sports venues.

[Apr 28, 2021] Joe Rogan is being attacked by Fauci the White House for daring to have an honest discussion about Covid-19 vaccines by Zachary Leeman

Joe Rogan: "I think it's safe to get vaccinated, but if you're 21 years old ... if you're a healthy person and you're exercising all of the time and you're young and you're eating well, I don't think you need to worry about this." https://twitter.com/i/status/1387077145156063234
And Fauci response: "You have to put a little bit of societal responsibility in your choices, and that's where I disagree with Mr. Rogan." https://twitter.com/i/status/1387414298432000000
It is unclear how Fauci response correlates with the fact that existing vaccines are less effective or (in case of Pfizer and South African strain) ineffective against new mutations. Does he acts as Big Pharma lobbyist, or what ?
Also, you have to be skeptical of pharmaceutical companies and the fact that they cannot be sued if something goes wrong with the vaccine.
Apr 28, 2021 | www.rt.com
White House health adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci and communications director Kate Bedingfield have made a point of belittling and attacking podcaster Joe Rogan for daring to have a mixed opinion on Covid-19 vaccines.

As Rogan has skyrocketed over the years to arguably the most influential and successful podcaster around, he has also turned into an intensely controversial figure, mainly for liberals who fear his willingness to give a platform to right-wing figures like Alex Jones and his less-than-PC takes on everything from transgender athletes to Covid-19 vaccines.

The latter is what landed the former 'Fear Factor' host in the hot seat this week as a clip from a recent episode of 'The Joe Rogan Experience' made its way across social media and critics painted Rogan as an anti-vaxxer spreading disinformation.

The controversy stems from Rogan saying, during a conversation with fellow comic Dave Smith, he would not recommend that a healthy person in their early 20s get a Covid-19 vaccine as they are not as vulnerable to the virus as older generations (who account for the majority of Covid deaths in the US) and people with preexisting medical conditions.

The Spotify podcaster also said pushing for kids to be vaccinated is "crazy," citing his own childrens' history with getting Covid-19, as both recovered relatively quickly.

Critics painted Rogan's comments as an angry anti-vaxx rant, urging his millions of listeners to avoid getting inoculated against Covid-19. However, they ignored the fact that Rogan says in the clip (and has said in the past) that getting vaccinated seems mostly safe and is indeed "important" for certain people.

Criticism of Rogan reached a bizarre new level on Wednesday when the White House appeared to launch a coordinated effort to disparage and belittle the podcaster, completely dismissing his opinions.

In multiple interviews, Fauci blasted Rogan for ignoring "societal responsibilities," arguing even young and healthy people should get vaccinated as asymptomatic individuals can still spread the virus.

The infectious disease expert also believes "kids of all ages" will be vaccinated by the end of the year – there are no vaccines on the market in the US approved for anyone under 16 – and everyone should "absolutely" get inoculated.

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Bedingfield also dismissed Rogan's opinion in a CNN interview where she said Rogan not being a doctor basically strips his words of any merit.

"I guess my first question would be, did Joe Rogan become a medical doctor while we weren't looking?" she asked. "I'm not sure that taking scientific and medical advice from Joe Rogan is perhaps the most productive way for people to get their information."

Initial social media criticism of Rogan is one thing, but the White House pitting themselves against a private citizen having an open and frank discussion on a podcast is concerning. It's alarming enough that White House officials busy with vaccination efforts and a still-fresh administration would take the time to debate Rogan on the subject, but the responses to his discussion also show that administration officials are fearful of open debate and conversations about the vaccines. If one even strays from the belief that vaccines are 100% safe and every single person, regardless of age or health, should take them, they are attacked, at least if you have the following that Rogan has.

Rogan's discussions on Covid-19 vaccines do not boil down to a debate on whether getting inoculated against the virus is good for everyone or not. The recent viral clip even opens with the podcaster saying vaccines are safe, and he acknowledges that what he says about children and young, healthy people is not true across the board. He merely expresses concerns as a father and gives a personal opinion that in no way discourages everyone from getting a vaccine.

Looking at Fauci and Bedingfield's responses, it appears they aren't even debating what Rogan actually said.

Fauci, who has been a controversial figure himself and accused of flip-flopping multiple positions during the pandemic, argues that it is the potential transmission of the virus from one person to another that is the reason everyone should be vaccinated. Rogan never talks about the risk of transmission though. He simply makes the argument that a healthy individual who is younger may not need a vaccination to protect themselves from the deadlier aspects of Covid.

Bedingfield's argument is even lamer as she says without a "Dr." title, Rogan simply can't have concerns about vaccinations for children and others. She argues no one should take "medical advice" from a podcaster, setting Rogan up as a man who presented himself as some kind of expert on vaccines, dishing out advice to his listeners, who apparently aren't intelligent enough to make up their own minds, according to these critics.

Fauci and Bedingfield and any other White House official who decides to paint Rogan as the face of anti-vaxxers should be ashamed of themselves. Their personal attacks are an opportunistic way to take a shot at someone who has somehow become a near-pariah on the left, and to discourage open and frank discussions about vaccines. Their swift dismissal of a comedian who is not quite waving the flag for every single person to be vaccinated shows that they don't want discussion from citizens they want compliance and for people to keep nodding their heads at their ever-changing talking points and guidelines.

It really doesn't matter who is right in the White House versus Joe Rogan debate because there shouldn't be a White House versus Joe Rogan debate. Ironically, Fauci and Bedingfield have probably made more people aware of Rogan's comments by addressing them. They and other officials have taken questionable criticism of a fairly harmless conversation and used it to create a false narrative about one man to strike fear into anyone who would dare consider what he or anyone else would say above what they do.

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[Apr 27, 2021] The Gamaleya Center statement - Official website vaccine against COVID-19 Sputnik V

Notable quotes:
"... Science Mag ..."
Apr 27, 2021 | sputnikvaccine.com

Covid-19 Vaccine Thrombosis:

THE GAMALEYA CENTER STATEMENT

A comprehensive analysis of adverse events during clinical trials and over the course of mass vaccinations with the Sputnik V vaccine showed that there were no cases of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST).

All vaccines based on adenoviral vector platform are different and not directly comparable. In particular, AstraZeneca’s ChAdOx1-S vaccine uses chimpanzee adenovirus to deliver the antigen, consisting of S-protein combined with leader sequence of tissue-type plasminogen activator. The vaccine from Johnson&Johnson uses human adenovirus serotype Ad26 and full-length S-protein stabilized by mutations. In addition, it is produced using the PER.C6 cell line (embryonic retinal cells), which is not widely represented among other registered products.

Sputnik V is a two-component vaccine in which adenovirus serotypes 5 and 26 are used. A fragment of tissue-type plasminogen activator is not used, and the antigen insert is an unmodified full-length S-protein. Sputnik V vaccine is produced with the HEK293 cell line, which has long been safely used for the production of biotechnological products.

Thus, all of the above vaccines based on adenoviral vectors have significant differences in their structure and production technology. Therefore, there is no reason and no justification to extrapolate safety data from one vaccine to safety data from other vaccines.

The quality and safety of Sputnik V are, among other things, assured by the fact that, unlike other vaccines, it uses a 4-stage purification technology that includes two stages of chromatography and two stages of tangential flow filtration. This purification technology helps to obtain a highly purified product that goes through mandatory control including the analysis of free DNA presence. In addition, the volume of nucleic acid is several dozen times lower in adenoviral vectors compared to Pfizer and Moderna vaccines (1 to 2 mcg vs 50 to 100 mcg, correspondingly).

A study published in The New England Journal of Medicine on April 9, 2021, discusses that the cause of the thrombosis in some patients vaccinated with other vaccines could be insufficient purification that leads to the emergence of significant quantities of free DNA. Insufficient purification or use of very high doses of target DNA/RNA can result in adverse interaction of a patient’s antibodies that activate thrombocytes with elements of the vaccine itself and/or free DNA/RNA, which can form a complex with the PF4 factor.

Link to the study:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2104840?query=featured_home

The Gamaleya Center is ready to share its purification technology with other vaccine producers in order to help them minimize the risk of adverse effects during vaccination.

[Apr 26, 2021] Fauci flip-flops again and state hat outdoor COVID Infection Risk Is Miniscule by Matt Margolis

Loss of legitimacy of the US medical establishment and Fauci personally is quite evident from the comments.
Looks like Anthony "surprise outbreak" Fauci took just 13 months to go full circle from no masks needed outside https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRa6t_e7dgI to everyone should wear two masks, to no mask needed outside. The man is a national embarrassment to anyone paying attention
Apr 26, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Matt Margolis via PJMedia.com,

For many months now, Dr. Anthony Fauci has advocated that people remain masked outdoors to help prevent the spread of COVID-19.

"When you are indoors, make sure you have a mask. When you're outdoors, keep the mask on," he said back in August, though he acknowledged that being outdoors was significantly safer than being indoors.

Now, Fauci is saying that he believes the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will provide updated guidance on wearing face masks outdoors, and says it's "common sense" to reconsider the guidance.

I call it science, but I'll take it.

Fauci also concedes that the risk of contracting COVID-19 while engaged in outdoor activities is "minuscule."

"What I believe you're going to be hearing, what the country is going to be hearing soon, is updated guidelines from the CDC," Fauci said on ABC's This Week .

"The CDC is a science-based organization. They don't want to make any guidelines unless they look at the data and the data backs it up."

"But when you look around at the common sense situation, the risk is really low , especially if you're vaccinated," he added.

You think? Why did it take so long to figure this out?

You think? Why did it take so long to figure this out?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/e8PyIIe00fw

Dr. Fauci's credibility has taken some severe hits, particularly in recent weeks. When Texas Governor Greg Abbott axed the state's mask mandate and other COVID-related restrictions on businesses and people, Dr. Anthony Fauci called it "risky" and "potentially dangerous." But no surge happened .

Earlier this month Fauci struggled to explain how Texas defied his own predictions during an appearance on MSNBC, arguing at the time that there might be a "lag." Three weeks later, there's still no surge in cases in Texas.

Fauci also defended the "pause" in the rollout of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, even though you're more likely to die from general anesthesia than you are to get severe blood clots from the Johnson & Johnson vaccine .


Jim in MN 2 hours ago

Sorry, anyone pushing universal 'vaccinations' is still an enemy of humanity.

BouncingCat 2 hours ago

100% vaccination makes as much sense as 0% vaccination, but, wait, Pfizer is pushing for a third round.

BinAnunnaki 2 hours ago

So is Moderna

Bacon's Rebellion 1 hour ago (Edited)

""But when you look around at the common sense situation, the risk is really low , especially if you're vaccinated," - Fauci

What? The vaccine DOES NOT prevent you from becoming infected, getting sick, hospitalized or dying...it "reduces the likelihood of a severe case"..and I've yet to find solid data of this reduction percentage of severe cases!...GTFO!

""Because in a certain situation, one can get vaccinated, have no clinical disease at all, but get infected and not even know it and have replication of virus in your nasopharynx and inadvertently transmit it to somebody else who might actually be unvaccinated and get ill." - Fauci

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Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness Study Results
~44,000 Participants
1,594 "cases" in the vaccine group
1,816 "cases" in the placebo group
(12% effective at "reducing cases"...lol...junk science)

ZERO DEATHS! ( 1 person died 3 days after injection; wasn't Covid or the vaccine though...no mention of what killed the person..lol..yeah, right;)

Vaccinated or not...NO...ONE...DIED!

No data was provided on the severity of the "cases". Read the document, they define a "case"; saying you don't feel good, and you test positive, qualifies as a "case".

(Link downloads a PDF | Pfizer Emergency Use Application)
https://www.fda.gov/media/144416/download

Bacon's Rebellion 1 hour ago

Kentucky, March 2021
CDC Findings
COVID-19 Outbreak
Skilled Nursing Facility After Vaccination Program

Note: " Skilled Nursing Facility" = you are very near the end of your life due to illness/age.

Findings Summary: If you're not old and/or near death, Covid WAS NOT a threat to your life.

Vaccination Rates:
52.6% of the 116 employees fully vaccinated
90.4% of the 83 residents were fully vaccinated.

"Cases":
46 COVID-19 cases total
26 residents (18 fully vaccinated) – 69% of the resident "cases" were fully vaccinated!!!
20 employees (4 vaccinated )
48% of "cases" were in people that were "fully vaccinated"!

Deaths:
2 unvaccinated residents died
1 vaccinated resident died.
So, 3 people, OUT OF 83, or 3.6%, whom were near the end of their life at the start, died of complications from a flu virus..shocking!

ZERO EMPLOYEES DIED
ZERO EMPLOYEES WERE HOSPITALIZED
20 EMPLOYEES HAD THE SNIFFLES!

Read it for yourself.

CDC Outbreak Findings
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7017e2.htm

Bacon's Rebellion 1 hour ago (Edited)

The New England Journal of Medicine
Large Scale Study of BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine

>>Estimated vaccine efficacy for severe Covid-19 is 92%
>>WOW! Fantastic! We're all saved!

Devil in the details...

596,618 in the vaccinated group
596,618 in the not vaccinated group

229 people...0.00019... OUT OF 1,193,236 PEOPLE...developed a "severe case" of Covid19
55 in the Vax group
174 in the Un-Vaxed group

99.9999% in Vaxed group did not experience severe Covid19
99.9970% in Un-Vaxed group did not experience severe Covid19

41 people...0.00003...OUT OF 1,193,236 PEOPLE...DIED of Covid19
9 in the Vax group (9 out of 55 severe cases = 16.4% died)
32 in the Un-Vaxed group (32 out of 174 severe cases = 18.4% died)

.000015 of all the fully vaccinated people died
.000054 of all the un-vaccinated died

Looks like "The Science" is saying your odds of dying from Covid19 are pretty slim whether or not you are vaccinated.

The New England Journal of Medicine
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2101765

Loocust 1 minute ago

Have you read the document you linked yourself? Quickly glanced over it and it doesn't say what you says it does.

The numbers you quote are from page 41:

"Among 3,410 total cases of suspected but unconfirmed COVID-19 in the overall study population, 1,594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1,816 in the placebo group."

These are "suspected cases of symptomatic COVID-19 that were not PCR-confirmed".

On page 4 you will find the actual result:

"Vaccine efficacy for the primary endpoint against confirmed COVID-19 occurring at least 7 days after the second dose was 95.0% with 8 COVID-19 cases in the vaccine group compared to 162 COVID-19 cases in the placebo group."

These are PCR confirmed covid-19 cases.

See table 6 for these numbers per age-group.

On page 40 the 6 (not 0, not 1) deaths during this study are looked at in more detail.

"cardiac arrest 62 days after vaccination #2 and died 3 days later"

"pre-existing atherosclerotic disease and baseline obesity and died 3 days after vaccination #1"

For placebo group: "myocardial infarction (n=1), hemorrhagic stroke (n=1) or unknown causes (n=2)".

Did you link another document then you wanted to link? Or you didn't read/understand what you linked?

Misesmissesme 1 hour ago remove link

"even though you're more likely to die from general anesthesia than you are to get severe blood clots from the Johnson & Johnson vaccine ."

Yea, but typically I'm getting general anesthesia because I'm about to have surgery that is necessary to save my life or fix something that is seriously broken or not working correctly. The experimental jab fits neither of those two criteria.

Apples and orangutan butts.

Not Your Father's ZH 45 minutes ago

But, maybe: Major Signal the COVID-19 Fearmongering is Ending

Froman 1 hour ago remove link

Follow the money. Jabs mean $$$ for the politicians and the drug companies. The more jabs the merrier. It is always all about the benjamins. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

MAGAMAN 59 minutes ago remove link

The jabs are nothing compared to the medical bills that can be run up, in the wake of the damage.

For example, Statin drugs R cheap and the cost of pushing them on the public is a loss leader, but once someone used statin drugs for 5-8 years, they'll be on 8 or so very expensive drugs.

chunga 2 hours ago remove link

I heard on the radio experts saying it's just fine to get Dystopia Virus shot number two up to three months later. This tells many people who got shot number one have decided they made a mistake and don't want shot number two.

BinAnunnaki 2 hours ago

They hear how sick people got after the second one. Colleague got a stinging red rash up and down his legs

BinAnunnaki 2 hours ago

They hear how sick people got after the second one. Colleague got a stinging red rash up and down his legs

End Times Prophecy 2 hours ago

You can hate Trump all you like be he was right on the money with his assessment of Fraud Fauci.

orangedrinkandchips PREMIUM 2 hours ago remove link

i like Trump but "cmon man"....calling Fauci out was easy.

he's political hack.

homeskillet 47 minutes ago

Trump did nothing to remove Fauci and is a fan of vaccine - Fraud.

Heroic Couplet 1 hour ago

Trump is a fool, with or without Fauci.

JRobby 2 hours ago

The man displays none of the characteristics of a scientist and all of the characteristics of a politician/career bureaucrat

gmak 2 hours ago (Edited)

It's not that he flip-flops. Data and information that is available can change and one needs to adjust. It's that he has admitted that he LIES TO MANIPULATE the general population because he doesn't believe that they are open to hearing the data and information nor capable of managing their own individual risks.

He believes that he knows what is good for us better than we do in our individual lives. He believes that it is OK to lie and manipulate to achieve a result that HE BELIEVES is necessary.

He is a LIAR and a MANIPULATOR when we need true LEADERS. That is why so many are responding to De Santis, BTW.

boyplunger7777 2 hours ago

Most expensive govt employee at $430,000/year. Done more damage to the nation than anyone in recent history. Bought and paid for by big pharma. Trump was a fool to give this clown a platform.

Fiscal Reality 2 hours ago (Edited) remove link

If you haven't mentally determined that Fauci is an IDIOT and a medical carnival barker, you're hopeless.

Mask up, vax up and stay terrified forever, sheep. COVID is ONLY 99.99% survivable. A dog bite is more dangerous.

Mrs. Fiscal is in an unnamed South American Country. They are hopelessly hypnotized by the COVID hysteria. Masks EVERYWHERE, even while riding bicycles or motorcycles or riding alone in a car.

Just like like Oregon, CA or NY.

Pigeon 2 hours ago

Same quack who played up the "heterosexual risk of AIDS" as high as gay sex, IV drug use risk.

Nona Yobiznes 1 hour ago

Fauci is a trainwreck. He has destroyed the credibility of the CDC, and no amount of media fluff pieces is going to change that.

OrazioGentile 2 hours ago (Edited) remove link

More from the Ministry of Disinformation! What constitutes outside and inside? If you are on the plains of Iowa, you definitely are outside...but if you are walking down a street in NYC with sidewalk cafes full of people without masks are you really outside? If you take the vaccine are you really immune to catching the Virus or is the vaccine more of a therapeutic that will lessen the symptoms if you do catch Covid? If you take said vaccine can you still pass it to others even if you are "immune"? Perhaps Dr. Tony could clarify these questions as opposed to giving advice on other topics....? At least Dr. Birx seemed to be more straight forward than this guy.

Dumpster Elite 51 minutes ago remove link

"The CDC is a science-based organization. They don't want to make any guidelines unless they look at the data and the data backs it up."

Also, there were no suitcases full of ballots underneath desks at the State Farm arena, the Steele Dossier is totally truthful and fact-based, and Hunter Biden has never committed a criminal act.

A. Lee Ess 1 hour ago

I believe that Zerohedge had a story a while back on a track coach that got fired for not requiring his kids to mask up while practicing. He should put up a billboard asking for an apology.

Nona Yobiznes 1 hour ago (Edited) remove link

I hope he sues. Fired for trying to protect kids from harmful masks during physical exertion. We must protect them from a virus that doesn't affect them, using a tool that doesn't work, in an environment where they are extremely unlikely to spread germs. Our world has gone nuts.

BitchesBetterRecognize 59 minutes ago

If people in the USA just bothered backtracking the endless lies, inconsistencies, contradictions & misinformation provided by Fauci, CDC & MSM while putting the pieces together, then the Plandemic should have been over by last summer

I still can't fathom why people keep participating in the Plandemic hoax, given all the irrefutable evidence that already exist to repel it completely.

Nelbev 1 hour ago remove link

Fvck Facuci. If the vaccine is so safe, then why does big pharma refuse to sell it in any country unless governments grant full legal immunity against vaccine injury liability torts. They skipped animal trials, normal vaccine phase III testing will not be finished till 2023.

Double mask, no mask outside, who is this idiot? 300 TV interviews last year and highest paid gov employee, how much time to read the growing hundreds of pier reviewed and published scientific papers, some from NIH, which say masks, lockdowns, social distancing do not work. If they did, you would see a drop in covid deaths a week or two after imposed by states or countries and can statistically test, but even without statistics can just look at data at a state like Texans and neighbors or Sweden and see.

His rec that young kids get vaccinated is idiotic. Data shows people under 30 are basically immune from death and if asymptomatic not spreaders. Their chance of being mauled to death by a local pet dog is greater than covid, same for car accidents, same risk logic to be safe should ban driving in cars and execute all dogs and cats. If you are under 30 or have already have had covid, you are crazy to to get vaccinated.

They got their mail in ballots and took the election. Why keep this meme going? I guess as soon as data out vaccinated people dying of covid, they will have to have everyone vaccinated every 6 months for rest of life and no civil liberties as new strains mutates like the common cold or seasonal flu.

They want me to get vaccinated so I do not spread to other non-vaccinated people, well non-vaccinated people have chose not to take risk of experimental vaccination, should not force upon us, no work, no travel, mask, social distance, stay home, stores closed, more propaganda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONfvD8hbofo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvdFsAf8mZo

Give Me Some Truth 20 minutes ago remove link

Fauci is like J. Edgar Hoover? He has too much dirt on too many people to be fired? He certainly seems to have gotten a life-time appointment.

GoodyGumdrops 1 hour ago

"But when you look around at the common sense situation, the risk is really low , especially if you're vaccinated," he added.

Yeah, because after getting injected with an experimental Covid shot, and you now have a cocktail of toxins altering your body's cells, you'll definitely have more serious things to worry about than just getting Covid.

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MAGAMAN 1 hour ago remove link

It amazes me how people follow a man that is so totally corrupt.

lawofone 2 hours ago

REPORT: Pfizer Vaccine Confirmed To Cause Neurodegenerative Diseases – Study

https://nationalfile.com/report-pfizer-vaccine-confirmed-to-cause-neurodegenerative-diseases/

untested gene therapy experiment. what a disaster.

PrivetHedge 2 hours ago remove link

Some people don't seem to understand that Fauci is a corrupt clown, a jester, just put there to laugh and make fun of us. No one should listen to anything he says.

The CDC is a corporation who has it's own agenda, currenyly infused with Gates's agenda od death for all. No one should listen to anything it says.

Biden, in advanced dementia and a globalist puppet, is also there to laugh at us and make fun of us, while our friends and family take the death jab, and infect the rest of us with mRNA shedding and spike proteins that guarantee infertility. No one should listen to anything he says.

We don't need the parasitic government and the mainstream media. It's the same gang, who want to kill us. In 2-3 years time tens of millions will be dead of ADE from the jab. The birth rate will be non existent.

We are losing this war.

hanekhw 33 minutes ago (Edited)

The widespread distrust of this man is well earned. Centuries of effort to create trust of the entire medical profession has been wiped out in little over a year. THAT damage is much worse than the pitiful few deaths from a Pandemic that was a fraud from the beginning perpetrated entirely for political power.

The Vel 2 hours ago

So, why are morons wearing masks outside?? Of course, the question is rhetorical.

Enraged 4 minutes ago remove link

The CDC represents Big Pharma, so the mission to recommend vaccines and drugs for profit.

I would say Fraudci is losing credibility, but he never had it.

Londo 2 hours ago

Another misleading title. Quoting Fauci out of context. Its about crowding . Disease will spread if you have crowding outdoors. LIke the Indian Diwali festival. Or the marathon runner in Italy last March. One runner spread it to 100.

[Apr 26, 2021] Read this and commit seppuku, Fauci. In fact, excessive wearing of masks make you SICK!!

Apr 26, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com


2 hours ago remove link

Read this and commit seppuku, Fauci. In fact, masks make you SICK!!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

Physiological effects of wearing facemasks

Wearing facemask mechanically restricts breathing by increasing the resistance of air movement during both inhalation and exhalation process [12] , [13] . Although, intermittent (several times a week) and repetitive (10–15 breaths for 2–4 sets) increase in respiration resistance may be adaptive for strengthening respiratory muscles [33] , [34] , prolonged and continues effect of wearing facemask is maladaptive and could be detrimental for health [11] , [12] , [13] . In normal conditions at the sea level, air contains 20.93% O 2 and 0.03% CO 2 , providing partial pressures of 100 mmHg and 40 mmHg for these gases in the arterial blood, respectively. These gas concentrations significantly altered when breathing occurs through facemask. A trapped air remaining between the mouth, nose and the facemask is rebreathed repeatedly in and out of the body, containing low O 2 and high CO 2 concentrations, causing hypoxemia and hypercapnia [35] , [36] , [11] , [12] , [13] . Severe hypoxemia may also provoke cardiopulmonary and neurological complications and is considered an important clinical sign in cardiopulmonary medicine [37] , [38] , [39] , [40] , [41] , [42] . Low oxygen content in the arterial blood can cause myocardial ischemia, serious arrhythmias, right or left ventricular dysfunction, dizziness, hypotension, syncope and pulmonary hypertension [43] . Chronic low-grade hypoxemia and hypercapnia as result of using facemask can cause exacerbation of existing cardiopulmonary, metabolic, vascular and neurological conditions [37] , [38] , [39] , [40] , [41] , [42] . Table 1 summarizes the physiological, psychological effects of wearing facemask and their potential long-term consequences for health.

[Apr 20, 2021] Fauci and cholorquinine

Apr 20, 2021 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Deap , 14 February 2021 at 12:07 PM


CDC website continues to recommend cholorquinine as a good choice when traveling to malaria prone countries. The same drug CDC-Fauci claims will "kill you" if you are in "covid" countries.

https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/travelers/drugs.html

[Apr 15, 2021] NIH or wearing masks

Still in close spaces it makes sense to wear mask. Like in shops.
Apr 15, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com
3 hours ago (Edited)

Science says that masks don't stop viruses but wearing them can lead to sickness and death. Fauci follows that science -- in his mission to kill.

US National Library of Medicine
National Institutes of Health

Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis

Conclusion

The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19 , supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

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in4mayshun 1 hour ago remove link

Another good link: (PCR test is worthless...)

https://cormandrostenreview.com/report

[Apr 15, 2021] Dr. Fauci and virrus proporation via contact with infectred surfqces

This charlatan did not even try to establish the time of survival of the virus on various surfaces which is a direct responsibility of his institute.
He did not study virus survival in air droplets iather
Apr 15, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

2 hours ago remove link

Oh well, apparently all that hand wringing about surfaces was a tad overdone. Last week the CDC announced that the risk of contracting the virus by touching a "contaminated" surface was somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 and 10,000. Another myth born of Covid-hysteria has bitten the dust.


enough of this 3 hours ago remove link

Dr. Foh Chi is always wrong but never in doubt.

chunga 3 hours ago

This Fauci character is a deranged medical terrorist. He became a fake doctor to avoid the draft. See: Yellow Berets.

onemorething 3 hours ago (Edited)

I once attended a polo match in the UK.

there was a long line of people waiting to use porta-potties, but I noticed the hunt club's restrooms had only three people waiting there, so my girlfriend and I sauntered over to the shorter line.

i asked GF, " I wonder why everyone's waiting in line over there, when over here are shorter lines and better bathrooms? "

An older woman in mink, dripping in diamond jewelry, was in line ahead of us.

She turned around and haughtily exclaimed

because people... are sheep.

CheapBastard 3 hours ago

Fauci refuses to comment on the maskless, unvaccinated flood of illegals coming across the border, while at the same time he trashes restaurants and Churches.

justyouwait 2 hours ago

The contradictions in how they enforce their lies is mind bending. Last summer BLM/Antifa were somehow immune to the disease while they attacked and burned America to the ground. The real powers behind this whole scam thought their actions were great and were thus sanctioned as they thought they would throw a bad light on Trump. Peacefully going for a walk down the same streets was seen as spreading death from one end to the other.

Once again, riot season has started and the powers that are in charge of the scam are back to avoiding those uncomfortable conversations about the peaceful protesters out there. They had told us that the EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS would get us back to normal once most of the population had taken them. Now they are talking about booster shots forever (you know, the gene altering treatments that surely won't have any dangerous side effects). They are also now starting to tell us that masks and distancing will never go away (they haven't put it in those terms but if the shots we are getting now won't get us off masks and distancing then neither will the boosters). This is the "new normal" folks.

fanbeav 3 hours ago

I work with idiots who wash their hands every time they touch a public surface. Wear their face diapers to walk from their car to the office with no one around. Then remove the face diaper at work. Replace the mask when deliveries come into the office. When delivery person leaves, they remove the mask. Put it back on when the days is over and they walk back to their car.....alone!

Now they are bragging about getting the "jab" like they are in some super dupper club.


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HeyThere 2 hours ago

Do you like anagrams? FAUCI >>>> CIA FU.

HC-CZ 3 hours ago

Saw a woman at Home Depot a few days ago.

Face shield, mask, gloves, and hair wrapped up in plastic. Outside.

DesertEagle 3 hours ago

"I work with idiots who wash their hands every time they touch a public surface. Wear their face diapers to walk from their car to the office with no one around.

Now they are bragging about getting the "jab"

These brainwashed airheads are like cult members - the Cult of Covid...

MCDirtMigger 3 hours ago

Fauxi is the 21st century version of the 16th century Pope declaring the world to be flat. Because, you know, the 'consensus ' tells him it is so.

[Apr 15, 2021] Where's Dr. Fauci As Another Corona-Myth Dies

Apr 15, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by John Tamny via RealClearMarkets ,

For over a year well-to-do Americans have quite literally been "quarantining" packages shipped to them, and that were dropped off at their residences by "science-denying" untouchables who lacked the means to similarly "shelter-in-place."

The package-terrified have usually waited 48 hours before handling said box and contents.

What about the Clorox wipes that were never in stock thanks to frantic science believers clearing the shelves of them? Some never left their homes.

Of course, when the corona-fearful actually ventured outside, they wore gloves while still not touching anything. They jumped out in the street when passing another human since, well, you know, the very humans who've driven all progress for millennia were suddenly a lethal menace to one another. But the main thing is that if they had to risk their lives by being in public, the science reverent more than masked up: they wiped down everything they came near.

Even though airlines were sending out texts ahead of boarding meant to comfort the nail-biting about plane interiors that had been thoroughly scrubbed, passengers still brought their own wipes on planes; that, or they accepted wipes from flight attendants in order to double up on the work done by maintenance. At present, Hilton essentially co-brands its rooms with Lysol .

Oh well, apparently all that hand wringing about surfaces was a tad overdone. Last week the CDC announced that the risk of contracting the virus by touching a "contaminated" surface was somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 and 10,000. Another myth born of Covid-hysteria has bitten the dust.

Since it has, the reasonable in our midst can only hope that Corona-celebrity Anthony Fauci is asked to comment on the new findings. They're very telling, and not solely because what was once believed deeply has turned out to be so wrong.

But since all the hysteria about surfaces has been revealed as much ado about nothing, it's worth starting there . More realistically, it's worth traveling back in time nearly 40 years to 1983. It was then that Fauci asserted in a paper that "routine close contact, as within a family household" could spread AIDS. To say that Fauci was wrong brings new meaning to understatement.

At the same time, Fauci's false assumptions in '83 don't indict him. Back then little was known about AIDS. Doctors were flying blind as it were, so they worked tirelessly to learn more.

Applied to the present, all-too-many on the left have hysterically criticized the "science-deniers" in their midst who are only deniers insofar as they haven't always accepted the present consensus about the coronavirus. As opposed to deniers, these skeptics were just being reasonable. Think about it. It's not "science" if there isn't doubt.

And as Fauci's incorrect assumptions from long ago yet again remind us, there's so much we don't know. There's so much we get wrong in the early days as we're learning . In the 1980s the view from the NHS experts in England was that one in five Brits would contract AIDS for which there was no cure. Even in hyper-lefty Hollywood, homosexual actor Tony Perkins went to great lengths to hide his AIDS diagnosis given his reasonable belief that he would never work again. Hollywood had overreacted. By many miles. How little we knew.

That so many got AIDS so wrong not too long ago should hopefully cause the hysterical of the moment to perhaps dial down their certainty. What you believe likely won't age well, which is the point. It explains why so many of us were so horrified by lockdowns.

You see, we weren't solely against lockdowns because we deny science or that we don't care about the virus, or didn't believe it existed. In truth, we were against the lockdowns because freedom produces abundant information in addition to being a virtue on its own.

We were also against the lockdowns simply because force is superfluous if something threatens; particularly if the threat is thought to be lethal. About Covid's lethality, doesn't the latter explain why some of the science-worshipful were so terrified, and so desperate to "quarantine" packages, wipe down doorknobs, and avoid human contact? OK, but if you were that scared, then what was the point of forced lockdowns ?

Indeed, as has been made plain, the fearful were already going to great lengths to do what they thought would protect them from the virus. The latter yet again explains the lack of Clorox wipes, masks, etc. It's a reminder that people didn't need to be forced.

No doubt the fear expressed by the scrubbers and washers has proven overdone and unwarranted in retrospect, which speaks to why freedom of action during "crises" is so important. In other words, those who threw caution to the wind and who couldn't be bothered to disinfect everything were just as important as the corona-obsessed when it came to finding answers. Arguably more important. The "deniers" provided information about virus spread that the "believers" could not. Get it?

In this case, the deniers who lived their lives were correct. Avoiding all contact proved idiotic. The "doubters" had science on their side.

It's all yet again a reminder that hysterical certitude isn't the same as knowledge. Emotion is its own form of denial. 3 hours ago

Fauci = Big Pharma Whore


The End Game 3 hours ago

" What was the point of forced lockdowns?"

Is that really even a question anymore? If it is, then you have not been paying attention!

mikka 3 hours ago

It would be funny if it wasn't true.

Sir Edge 1 hour ago

CDC / Fauci / Gates - Epidemic created Fear is FIRST about control and then second about the profits from the drugs or vaxes... so they have more resources to do it AGAIN... as in now the vaccinated may 'NEED' a third shot ?

xious 3 hours ago (Edited)

Trump did nothing to stop covid scam. He is one of them.

This is way bigger than Trump, you should know that by now.

Savyindallas 2 hours ago

very true. I will be so happy when Trump apologists finally realize we were conned by "Con Don--crisis actor extraordinaire. After being an early and avid supporter, it took me about two years to finally admit the Truth. The rest of you need to come to terms with this fact and move on-- otherwise, we are truly screwed.

Billy the Poet 2 hours ago

I thought Trump was a convenient monkey wrench to toss in the works and he was. Trust in government, media, academia and corporations is at an all time low. It's an anarchist's dream.

This is a much better point to be moving forward from than if it hadn't happened.

It's a shame you can't see that.

CheapBastard 2 hours ago (Edited)

"We're all in this together."

Billionaires made $3.9 trillion during the pandemic

https://www.businessinsider.com/billionaires-made-39-trillion-during-the-pandemic-coronavirus-vaccines-2021-1

DesertEagle 3 hours ago

" What was the point of forced lockdowns?"

Very simple. The 85-90% of the population not at high risk for serious Covid illness were locked up to prevent natural "herd immunity" from developing. In order to force the warp speed "vaccines" on everyone. And then to implement tracking and control of the sheep via Vaccine Passports and ultimately micro chipping of everybody but the elites running the Covid psyop.

EnoughBS21 3 hours ago

This idiot is a complete Deep State fraud and should be brought up on charges of crimes against humanity and hanged!

JoeyChernenko PREMIUM 3 hours ago

Do a fundraiser. Kind of like those fundraisers where you get to hit an old car with a baseball bat. We could pay off the national debt. I'd pony up $10,000 or so.

desertboy 2 hours ago remove link

In Fauci's defense: he's not simply neurotic; he had a very real profit motive.

Jack Offelday 3 hours ago

Fauci will infamously be remembered as the face of COVID. What a legacy.

whatisthat1 2 hours ago

This post and other evidence demonstrate dr Fauci is a fraud and nefarious career bureaucrat....

Bunter Hiden 3 hours ago

I stopped taking any kind of precautions about 1 month after the hysteria started. No masks, no gloves, no quarantining, etc. I've gone about my life as normal, well as normal as you can with 80% of the population freaking out.

Fauxchi is a quack. Look at what he said about SARS-1 and SARS-2. Totally contradictory.

When something doesn't pass the sniff test, throw it away.

williambanzai7 1 hour ago

Dr Fauci and his cohorts seem to be having great difficulty understanding anything about this virus other than it's money making attributes.

liberty2 3 hours ago

"Nobel Prize-Winning Inventor Said Dr. Fauci Is A Complete Fraud"

https://rumble.com/vbsh8v-nobel-prize-winning-inventor-said-dr.-fauci-is-a-complete-fraud.html

R.I.P. Kary Mullis

DesertEagle 3 hours ago

Fauci has been a charlatan forever. A Grifter who gets tons of money from the likes of Bill Gates and Big Pharma. Don't forget he pushed immunity from legal liability for vaccine makers through Congress back in the '80's.

dustnwind 46 minutes ago

Why is the focus on Fauci instead of the politicians giving him so much power? Deflection perhaps?

5G-Powered Nanobots 36 minutes ago

Because he's a virologist with decades of experience

[Apr 09, 2021] Distrust of the establishment plays a role in vaccine hesitancy, but it's probably time to back off on the prevailing commentary suggesting that those avoiding vaccines are irresponsible, uninformed or politically manipulated

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Dr. Kaplan is a faculty member at the Stanford School of Medicine Clinical Excellence Research Center and the UCLA Fielding School of Public Health. He has served as associate director of the National Institutes of Health and chief science officer at the U.S. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality. ..."
Apr 09, 2021 | www.wsj.com

Originally from: Stop Taking Shots at Those Who Fear Them - WSJ By Robert M. Kaplan April 8, 2021 6:21 pm ET

Distrust of the establishment plays a role in vaccine hesitancy, but it's probably time to back off on the prevailing commentary suggesting that those avoiding vaccines are irresponsible, uninformed or politically manipulated. Achieving herd immunity requires that about 70% of Americans are vaccinated or contract Covid and develop natural immunity, which official numbers place around 10% of the population. Polls consistently show that 21% say they will definitely not get the vaccine and about a third rate their chances of taking the vaccine as less than 50%. It's better to address common fears and concerns respectfully and informatively than with hectoring and condescension.

Dr. Kaplan is a faculty member at the Stanford School of Medicine Clinical Excellence Research Center and the UCLA Fielding School of Public Health. He has served as associate director of the National Institutes of Health and chief science officer at the U.S. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality.

[Apr 07, 2021] Fauci's NIAID Shielded Wuhan Bat Research Grant From Government Oversight by Anthony Fauci, didn't flag the project for review.

Highly recommended!
Apr 06, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Originally from: US Grant To Wuhan Lab To Enhance Bat-Based Coronaviruses Was Never Scrutinized By HHS Review Board, NIH Says - The Daily Call

In 2017, a subagency of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) - headed by Dr. Anthony Fauci - resumed funding a controversial grant to genetically modify bat coronaviruses in Wuhan, China without the approval of a government oversight body, according to the Daily Caller .

For context, in 2014, the Obama administration temporarily suspended federal funding for gain-of-function research into manipulating bat COVID to be more transmissible to humans. Four months prior to that decision, the NIH effectively shifted this research to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) via a grant to nonprofit group EcoHealth Alliance, headed by Peter Daszak.

Peter Daszak, president of EcoHealth Alliance

The first $666,442 installment of EcoHealth's $3.7 million NIH grant was paid in June 2014, with similar annual payments through May 2019 under the " Understanding The Risk Of Bat Coronavirus Emergence " project.

Notably, the WIV "had openly participated in gain-of-function research in partnership with U.S. universities and institutions" for years under the leadership of Dr. Shi 'Batwoman' Zhengli, according to the Washington Post 's Josh Rogin.

In 2017, however, the " Potential Pandemic Pathogens Control and Oversight (P3CO) Framework was formed within the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)," which was tasked with evaluating the risks involved with enhancing dangerous pathogens, as well as whether proper safeguards are in place, before a grant into 'gain-of-function' or similarly risky research can be issued.

Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) - the subagency which funded EcoHealth - didn't think the grant needed review , and resumed their relationship with Daszak without flagging it for the P3CO committee , an NIH spokesperson told the Caller .

EcoHealth Alliance president Peter Daszak toasts with WIV's 'Batwoman' Shi Zhengli

" This is a systemic problem ," says Rutgers University professor of chemical biology, Richard H. Ebright, referring to the loophole in the review process - and adding that NIAID and NIH have "systematically thwarted–indeed systematically nullified–the HHS P3CO Framework by declining to flag and forward proposals for review."

The NIH, however, says that the grant wasn't flagged for review because "NIAID determined research in the grant was not gain-of-function research because it did not involve the enhancement of the pathogenicity or transmissibility of the viruses studied," the spokesperson told the Caller , adding: "We would not submit research proposals that did not meet the definition, because otherwise we would need to submit everything."

We'll just have to take their word for it, as the P3CO framework didn't require the HHS review committee to take a second look at the NIAID's claim that the EcoHealth grant doesn't cover gain-of-function research.

More via The Daily Caller (emphasis ours)

How Federal Oversight Of Gain-Of-Function Research Is Bypassed

The Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) is at the center of widespread speculation that COVID-19 could have accidentally leaked from a lab into the human population. EcoHealth's grant to study bat-based coronaviruses in China included the transfer of $600,000 to the WIV.

Had EcoHealth's grant been subjected to P3CO review, an HHS panel would have independently evaluated the grant and, if necessary, recommended additional biocontainment measures to prevent potential lab leaks -- or even recommended that the grant be denied entirely .

The WIV is a biosafety level 4 laboratory, the highest level biocontainment certification, but U.S. Embassy officials issued two diplomatic cables warning about inadequate safety at the lab after a visit in 2018. One of the cables warned that the lab's work on bat-based coronaviruses represented the risk of a new SARS-like pandemic, according to The Washington Post .

An annex to the World Health Organization's COVID-19 origin report released Tuesday describes the WIV's work using "recombinant viruses" in tests involving bat coronaviruses, which Ebright said are descriptions of gain-of-function research .

The U.S. government paused funding of gain-of-function research in 2014 after lab workers were accidentally exposed to anthrax by the Centers for Disease Control, according to The New York Times . The incident came on the heels of widespread scientific outcry in 2011 when it was revealed that laboratories in Wisconsin and the Netherlands were intentionally modifying the H5N1 bird flu virus so it could more effectively jump between ferrets.

Federally funded gain-of-function research resumed in 2017 after new oversight procedures were implemented. The review framework split oversight responsibilities between two groups -- the funding agency (the NIAID in the case of the EcoHealth grant) and the P3CO Review Committee, an interdisciplinary group convened by HHS.

The committee is responsible for recommending whether a research grant involving gain-of-function needs to include any additional risk mitigation measures, an HHS spokesperson told the DCNF . But the committee is kept in the dark on any grant until the funding agency flags one for its review.

The P3CO Framework doesn't require the HHS review committee to take a second look at the NIAID's determination following its review that the EcoHealth grant did not involve gain-of-function research.

The NIH spokesperson said it would be "misleading and inaccurate" to suggest NIAID was required to notify the HHS review committee of its determination.

An HHS spokesperson confirmed that the department's P3CO Review Committee only reviews research grants that are flagged for additional review by funding agencies such as NIAID. The spokesperson did not answer when asked if the review committee had knowledge of the EcoHealth grant.

Ecohealth has a history of manipulating bat-based coronaviruses. The group's president, Peter Daszak , said as much during a podcast interview filmed in Singapore just weeks before the first reported cases of COVID-19 in Wuhan in December 2019.

"You can manipulate them in the lab pretty easily," Daszak said. "Spike protein drives a lot of what happens with the coronavirus. Zoonotic risk. So you can get the sequence, you can build the protein -- and we work with Ralph Baric at [the University of North Carolina] to do this -- and insert the backbone of another virus and do some work in the lab."

Ebright told the DCNF that NIAID was wrong to determine that the EcoHealth grant did not involve enhancing the transmissibility of Chinese bat-based coronaviruses. He said the project's abstract for the 2019 fiscal year, which referenced "in vitro and in vivo infection experiments" on coronaviruses, "*unequivocally* required risk-benefit review under the HHS P3CO Framework."

Other scientists have said EcoHealth's NIH-funded work in China involved gain-of-function research on bat-based coronaviruses.

"It is hard to overemphasize that the central logic of this grant was to test the pandemic potential of SARS-related bat coronaviruses by making ones with pandemic potential, either through genetic engineering or passaging, or both," Drs. Jonathan Latham and Allison Wilson wrote in June.

The NIH terminated the EcoHealth grant in April 2020. NIH deputy director for extramural research, Michael Lauer , told the group in a letter that the agency "does not believe that the current project outcomes align with the program goals and agency priorities."

Fauci said during a hearing before the House Energy & Commerce Committee in June that the EcoHealth grant was canceled "because the NIH was told to cancel it."

"I don't know the reason, but we were told to cancel it," Fauci said.

Fauci told Politico following the hearing that former President Donald Trump's White House ordered the NIH to cancel the grant.

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Read the rest of the report here .

[Apr 03, 2021] The level of trust in the US government actions during epidemic is very low

The comment below is pretty indicative
Apr 03, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

tyberious 20 hours ago

They lied about masks.

They lied about social distancing.

They lied about shut downs.

They lied about HQC.

They lied about ivermectin.

They lied about the vaccines.

They lied about covid.

Now they want vaccine passports, why?

To protect your health, naw, there is something in that vaccine that they want everyone to have!

[Apr 01, 2021] They reuse masks, they touch their masks all day, they adjust htem, they don't have them properly fitted ( this is a big one ).

Apr 01, 2021 | science.slashdot.org

Re:Sarah Palin ( Score: 5 , Informative) by DamnOregonian ( 963763 ) on Thursday April 01, 2021 @12:42PM ( #61224624 ) Of course that question is being asked.

They reuse masks, they touch their masks all day, they adjust htem, they don't have them properly fitted ( this is a big one ).

All of these things are liable to reduce the efficacy of a mask. None of them could possibly lead to a negative efficacy.
I will provide data, but first, I want to really assess why you're truly skeptical of the idea.
The mask is not collecting other peoples' droplets. It's collecting yours. So why would you think that you misusing your mask is going to increase your chances of getting the disease vs. not wearing one at all?
That's like arguing that "the real world is messy, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to learn that pulling out was actually morel likely to get a girl pregnant than not!"

It's absurd.

Now, for the laboratory and epidemiological efficacy data. [ucsf.edu] Reply to This Parent Share Flag as Inappropriate Re:

I'd argue that there have been large-scale test cases which seem to show that masks do lower transmissibility. Those tests were conducted in South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. The United States was the control group.

What you see from the numbers is that those countries had far lower covid rates than the United States and also were countries where inexpensive surgical masks are widely available in mini-marts and people willingly wear them as well. In addition, all of those countries are very crowded and you' Re:Sarah Palin ( Score: 4 , Informative) by dgatwood ( 11270 ) on Thursday April 01, 2021 @02:04PM ( #61225048 ) Homepage Journal

The question that isn't being asked, but should be, is, "Are masks lowering the transmissibility?". Looking at the dataset, I don't believe so.

I'd argue that there have been large-scale test cases which seem to show that masks do lower transmissibility. Those tests were conducted in South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. The United States was the control group.

That's an okay approach, but IMO a better approach with fewer confounding factors is comparing cases at the county level within the United States [cdc.gov]. The 24 counties in Kansas that implemented a mask mandate showed a 6% drop in cases between a week-long period in early July and a week-long period in mid-August. The 105 counties that did not implement a mask mandate showed a 100% increase in cases over that same time period. Reply to This Parent Share Flag as Inappropriate Not a controlled experiment [Re:Sarah Palin] Not a controlled experiment, sorry.

Correct. There are differences between countries other than mask wearing. Re:

That is not a proper control group. There are plenty of studies which look at infection trends before and after mask mandates and lockdowns, which all show a decrease in infections. So no need to point to research which tries to compare different countries with far too many other factors to mitigate. Re:Sarah Palin ( Score: 5 , Informative) by SpankiMonki ( 3493987 ) on Thursday April 01, 2021 @01:04PM ( #61224726 )

The question that isn't being asked, but should be, is, "Are masks lowering the transmissibility?".

That question has been asked since early in the pandemic, and there have been many observational studies performed showing mask use lowering transmissibility to one degree or another. Like this early study [bmj.com] of mask use in China:

Face mask use by the primary case and family contacts before the primary case developed symptoms was 79% effective in reducing transmission

Now mod me down because this goes against the local dogma. Must not question the narrative!

Well, since "Uninformed" is not a moderation option, I don't think you should be modded down for mere ignorance. But that's just me. Reply to This Parent Share Flag as Inappropriate Re:

There is no way you have looked at any relevant data if you have come to that conclusion. There have been studies tracking transmission rates before and after mask mandates, and transmission rates did significantly drop. It is even more true for lockdowns. You can look at any trend-line for any US state/county or any country and identify when either increased mask mandates or lockdowns were put in place because a week or two later the case rate goes down dramatically.

In the US you could see case rates slowi Re: Those are interesting data points, but they're not really indicative of anything simply due to how many factors can influence CFR between 2 countries/societies Also not a controlled experiment [Re:Sarah Palin] Also not a controlled experiment. Comparing two countries that have social, geographical, and population density differences makes it impossible to tell what the effect of which variable is.

Correct. There are differences between countries other than mask wearing.

I am particularly skeptical about analyses that pick compare countries without a very good reason to explain why those two. There are 195 countries in the world. Out of the 18,915 possible comparisons of two countries, why did you pick those parti Re:

How is it people who are supposed to be smart (slashdot readers) can be so uneducated? Re: Sarah Palin

Bullshit. Re:Sarah Palin ( Score: 5 , Interesting) by cusco ( 717999 ) < brian...bixby@@@gmail...com > on Thursday April 01, 2021 @12:58PM ( #61224690 )

We had a customer who was a paratrooper in Normandy, and my brother made that stupid comment for some reason. Dick immediately reamed him a new asshole and said, "More atheists are made in fucking foxholes than anywhere else, since no god worth worshiping would allow shit like that to happen!"

[Apr 01, 2021] Fauci and kids

Fauci became a symbol of "technoidiocy"
Apr 01, 2021 | www.wsj.com
J Jeffrey Mason SUBSCRIBER 29 minutes ago The last straw for me on CV19 and these vaccines was when I heard Fauci talk about how he wants to vaccinate kids at the age of 6 months in 2022. Absolutely ridiculous. Like thumb_up 1 Reply Share link Report W William Long SUBSCRIBER 23 minutes ago If the goal is herd immunity and suppressing creation of new variants, then you have to vaccinate kids. Absolutely essential. Nothing ridiculous at all.

Like thumb_up 2 Reply Share link Report J Jeffrey Mason SUBSCRIBER 20 minutes ago An unproven vaccine in a 6 month old baby?? Not my kid Anthony Aaron Anthony Aaron SUBSCRIBER 1 hour ago 12-15 year olds -- those who actually get the Fauci flu -- already have a 99.9999% survival rate so, given the small sample size, their 100% survival rate is likely statistically meaningless. B Brendan Fieger SUBSCRIBER 5 minutes ago Infants are at almost no risk from Covid. Anyone who would give their six-month old an experimental vaccine should not be a parent. It's unconscionable. D Don Tezza SUBSCRIBER 31 minutes ago I realize that some people are mathematically challenged, but hypothetically speaking, if a virus claims 1,000,000 lives within a population of 330,000,000 people, the survival rate would calculate at 99.70%. How exactly are we measuring the effectiveness of the vaccine; are we looking for a jump to 99.80%?
Like thumb_up Reply Share link Report W William Long SUBSCRIBER 28 minutes ago The whole point of vaccination is that is reduces the death rate to essentially zero. If you, or a close relative, die from COVID, you don't give a rip about the total population. Like thumb_up 1 Reply Share link Report J Jeffrey Mason SUBSCRIBER 25 minutes ago (Edited) I have the same chance of getting struck by lightning and surviving as I do dying of COVID. Why should I live in fear if I have taken care of my body and have a strong immune system?

[Mar 22, 2021] Propaganda Watch- Dr Fauci Children's Book On The Way - ZeroHedge

Mar 22, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News,

CNN weirdo Brian Stelter announced with Glee Sunday that Dr Anthony Fauci is the subject of a new children's book titled "Dr. Fauci: How A Boy From Brooklyn Became America's Doctor," prompting many to immediately label it a propaganda campaign.

... ... ...

Fauci, who has repeatedly flip flopped and lied about the use of masks and admitted that there is no science behind lockdowns, has been ever present on CNN and every other pro-lockdown news bilge station for the past year.


katemessner @KateMessner · Mar 21 Exciting morning here - @CNN 's @brianstelter just revealed the cover for DR: FAUCI: HOW A BOY FROM BROOKLYN BECAME AMERICA'S DOCTOR on @ReliableSources ! (Coming 6/29 from @simonschuster & available for pre-order today - https:// bookshop.org/books/dr-fauci -how-a-boy-from-brooklyn-became-america-s-doctor/9781665902434 ) 63 79 361

ted41776 2 hours ago remove link

childhood and adolescent suicides are through the roof thanks to these "experts" and what they have done to the planet

all covaids deaths, of course

cankles' server 2 hours ago

"The ignorance, prejudices, and groupthink of an educated elite are still ignorance, prejudice, and groupthink -- and for those with one percent of the knowledge in a society to be guiding or controlling those with the other 99 percent is as perilous as it is absurd."

∼ Thomas Sowell in 'Intellectuals and Society'

Bartertown 2 hours ago

The **** who stole Christmas.............

0.1 2 hours ago

That's funny!

Sol Invictvs 2 hours ago

How a "doctor" from Brooklyn became the biggest grifter and certified con man of the 21st century.

Plunge Protection 2 hours ago

He's a useless bureaucrat

eatapeach 59 minutes ago

He was educated by the US military, and he hasn't stopped doing their bidding. He's way up the PsyOp pole...

Kanzen Saimin 2 hours ago

Drag queen story-time kids!

GotGalt 2 hours ago

LOL ... so true!

Onthebeach6 2 hours ago remove link

I must have stumbled into a parallel universe where doctors who help fund pandemics that kill half a million Americans and enable a coup become role models pushed by a propaganda spewing MSM.

I guess if he'd done something wrong he would have been treated like Dr Seuss.

0.1 2 hours ago

We live in Crazy Town! Dr. Seuss is banned, and Fauci the Fake is being published.

itstippy 1 hour ago

Fauci is "America's Doctor"? But I don't want him as my Doctor. I already have a Doctor. I thought if I liked my Doctor I could keep my Doctor.

InnerCynic 2 hours ago

Fraudci: How A Brooklyn Born Bastard Scammed America

MrBoompi 2 hours ago

Hey kids let's all congratulate Dr. Fauci for being industrious enough to send his gain-of-function virus research to a Wuhan, China biolab after he was shut down here in the US!

Now he's locking us down and destroying our way of life!

What a role model!!

2willies 1 hour ago

Fauci is an obvious psychopath.

Dear Old Hedge 1 hour ago

Venal as they come, and shamelessly amoral.

Ghost of Porky 1 hour ago

Chapter 6: How I profited from the AIDS crisis

Chapter 7: How I profited from the EBOLA crisis

Chapter 8: How I profited from the SARS crisis

Chapter 9: How I profited from the COVID crisis

JamesJOMeara 2 hours ago

First Cuomo, now Fauci... also, every traitor who "leaves" DC writes a book of lies: Mueller, Comey, Brennan... plus all those "statesmen" like both Clintons, now Obama... what is it with Liberals and their stupid "books"? They can't read or write anything sensible, they cancel anything worthwhile (even Dr Seuss!) but they love immortalize themselves with ******** "books" that they don't write and no one buys, and have other Liberals gush about them on the TV. It truly is a cargo cult.

sparky139 PREMIUM 1 hour ago

They write books that nobody reads (or buys) so that their bribe money can be whitewashed as advance money.

Shirley Yugest 2 hours ago remove link

One mask, two mask...

LetThemEatRand 2 hours ago

I wonder if there's a chapter about his gain of function research on bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan lab in 2019. https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741

Al Capone 1 hour ago

Finally, a book worth burning.

LMFAO!

runningman18 1 hour ago

Will the book mention that Fauci was the one that sent millions of dollars to the virus lab in Wuhan for research into transferring coronavirus from bats to other mammals....?

Jim in MN 1 hour ago

Late in the pandemic collapse, went for a long hike with my daughter yesterday in the distant lake areas of a blue suburban county.

Comedic confusion reigned as masked and maskless families eyed one another suspiciously and scattered across the lovely hill nearest the lake and park visitor center (CLOSED of course).

People walking the paths nervously. I waved, smiled and said hi to every one of them. Only a few said anything back, many looked down miserably.

I personally detest Fauci and everything he and his masters and Rod Rosenstein's sister (CDC infectious disease director) have done to society.

My daughter laughs when asked about taking a shot. "Maybe in ten years" she says.

lynnybee 1 hour ago

Fauci is Jesuit. It's all on the net for those who are good at searching and digging for the truth. Don't use google search. Use DuckDuckGo or Gibiru. I read a lot and don't like his background.

He isn't trustworthy.

Er Wang Dong 1 hour ago

One year ago, the absolute last guy I would have guessed to have his very own cult of personality would have been this little gerbil...

NIRP-BTFD 1 hour ago (Edited)

I don't think he has a following. its just the *** media pretending he is liked. Like they said Cuomo the ape like crature is the most sexy man alive and gave him an emmy.

Er Wang Dong 1 hour ago

You're probably right, but it's still amazing.

But don't doubt that there are many true believers out there who hang on this clown's every word.

Hey, somebody is watching CNN...

NotTiredOfWinning 1 hour ago

Like Rush said, "If the Media builds you up they can take you down", this guy is a total fabrication.

Lore 1 hour ago

Disgusting, subhuman figurehead, the epidemiological equivalent of Al Gore. It would be a better world if somebody invented a vaccine that would immunize society against their pathological ilk. We should look forward to these scum facing meaningful justice, wiped off the face of the earth, but I fear that it will only happen after the so-called "vaccines" and related projects have claimed the lives of millions.

Colonel Klink 1 hour ago (Edited)

Propaganda, Fauxchi is responsible for a huge number of deaths too.

Proof is what he advocated for during SARS Covid 1 -vs- what he did for SARS2 Covid (the China virus)

His stance on hydroxychloroquin, etc.

boattrash 1 hour ago

Destroy Dr Seuss and give Dr Fauci a platform?

I don't phukkin think so!

Odin McHaggis 1 hour ago

Fourth Reich

Mantis Toboggan - M.D. 1 hour ago

Ive been saying since 03/2020...the reason Fauci never says anything positive is because he LOVES the attention. He loves being on media every other day interviewing about "science". Now he is a character in a children's book...he absolutely loves this. He will never want lockdowns to end and never want less than two masks..the longer this is a crisis the longer he is a hero.

Robert De Zero 59 minutes ago remove link

He looks nothing like the caricature. He's ugly inside and out. The POS got everything wrong. He's a loser NWO puppet, not a role model.

Huxley's Ghost 1 hour ago remove link

M ost of us are descended from immigrants so why does that matter? That lame as s starter still plays?

[Mar 15, 2021] The attack on Cuomo seems organized.

Mar 15, 2021 | www.moonofalabama.org

Jackrabbit , Mar 15 2021 14:45 utc | 10

Will American sheeple ever be allowed to question the Trump Administration many failures in fighting the pandemic - starting with Trump's bogus air travel ban and his lying about the severity of the virus? Not likely. New York State Governor Cuomo is now being hounded out of office with flimsy sex allegations to (IMO) prevent a review of the policy of sending people home to "self-isolate". "Self-isolate" and the "bend the curve" goal (instead of defeat the virus) virtually guaranteed that the pandemic would continue to spread.

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jared , Mar 15 2021 14:56 utc | 11

The attack on Cuomo seems organized.
I don't care for the guy, seemed a political hack, but I also suspect there is a need to eliminate effective leadership to clear the way for globalist domination - as we do to other nations.
I believe success of AOC, De Blasio and Biden are symptom of same.
Idiot king > French Revolution > Napoleon.

ptb , Mar 15 2021 17:55 utc | 32

@10,11 Re: Gov. Cuomo

Yes, clearly organized. No sympathy for him from here (sunny upstate NY).

As the second-generation son of a governor, and head of a mighty, and thoroughly corrupt political machine, for years the state budget process was three guys alone in a conference room. The obvious result was billions of state $ funneled to pet projects led by cronies. He had no shortage of enemies, I'm sure.

Covering up the alarming rate of nursing home Covid fatalities was the straw that broke the camel's back, but I suppose even that was too unsightly for the media. So instead they suddenly discover that for years he's been a d-bag in his relations to younger women he comes across. While that may well be true and is reason enough for him to be gone, what it really means is they don't have the guts to air the actual issues.

Jackrabbit , Mar 15 2021 18:14 utc | 36

ptb @Mar15 17:55 #32

I'm also a New Yorker - "Downstate". And I too have no sympathy for corrupt NY politicians.

But I think it's very important to ask WHY he is being 'cancelled'.

Political parties usually look after their 'stars' in higher office. Cuomo is being thrown under the bus. And it isn't because his aids fudged the numbers of dead. I see THAT as merely the start of the effort to remove him.

So why the concerted effort to forcibly remove him? The policy that killed people in the nursing homes was essentially nation-wide. I don't know of any effort to quarantine people in USA. To fight the nursing-home scandal, Cuomo would point to guidance from the Federal government (CDC, NIH, Homeland Security, and others in the Trump Administration).

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Bemildred , Mar 15 2021 18:57 utc | 43

Posted by: ptb | Mar 15 2021 18:50 utc | 42

Yes, it did occur to me that it might be someone wants Cuomo out of the way. It's a very popular method, and used selectively. Nevertheless, you have to wish them Godspeed with their "plot" against him. Perhaps one of Trump's offspring wants to run. I hear Chelsea is thinking about it too.

jared , Mar 15 2021 18:57 utc | 44

@ Posted by: ptb | Mar 15 2021 17:55 utc | 32

There are always reasons to be against any established public official.
Probably The Cuomo regime more than most.
But still, I would be very cautious about the motivations behind it.
There is I believe a trend of removing effective, powerful leaders to be replaced by others groomed to be compliant to other interests.
I would think that it would be reasonable to investigate who and why is behind what seems a transparent, organized take-down. I have heard it claimed that Cuomo was becoming too powerful in the demo party. Dirty politics is destructive and harms us all.
It would be past time for Cuomo to go, but I hate to see him replaced by someone representing interests more corrupt.

Piotr Berman , Mar 15 2021 19:26 utc | 50

The attack on Cuomo seems organized.
I don't care for the guy, seemed a political hack, but I also suspect there is a need to eliminate effective leadership ...
Posted by: jared | Mar 15 2021 14:56 utc | 11
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Effective leadership? Are you writing about THAT Cuomo?

jared , Mar 15 2021 19:33 utc | 51

@ Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 15 2021 19:26 utc | 50

Cuomo has been fairly successful, last 10 years.
And his father before him.

Hillary had her eye on NY in the past (((shudder))).

Mao Cheng Ji , Mar 15 2021 20:53 utc | 62

@11 "The attack on Cuomo seems organized."

It seems to be organized in the following manner: let us drown credible accusation of killing 15,000 people in nursing homes and trying to cover it up by falsifying records -- in an endless stream of trivial 'metoo' bullshit. If I was a conspiracy theorist, I would've concluded that Andrew Cuomo paid those accusers to make accusations and thus change the subject.

vetinLA , Mar 15 2021 22:03 utc | 74

Jrabbit @ 56 asked; "Ask yourself: Is pussy-grabber Trump a liar or a sex fiend?"

Actually, both, but then, most men, IMO, have a problem with the latter. Nature it seems, has endowed us with the stronger urge to "repopulate the species", and when joined with an over abundance of $, some think it's a license to act out our sexual fantasies. It isn't, but Epstein made it a business model. Entitlement is entitlement, no matter how it manifests, and rich and powerful men suffer from it often.

DJT and Cuomo are our latest examples. Rich, powerful, scum-bags.....

[Mar 14, 2021] Fauci in hot water

Feb 25, 2021 | www.brighteon.com

The HighWire with Del Bigtree

The one-time hero of the pandemic, Tony Fauci, is losing the trust of mainstream America after flip flopping on critical #Covid19 information one too many times. His latest admission is the final straw for many public figures, including avid pro-vaxxers.



Dorothy M Neddermeyer, PhD
13 days ago
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Dr. Fauci is parroting what the Oligarchy instructs him to report. FOLLOW the money.

Ruth Burns15 days ago ,

He is full of it. Get rid of Fauci.

Cmore Butts14 days ago • edited ,

heard fauci has a monetary connection to either pfizer or moderna. Maybe that placebo he took will show symptoms on his opposite arm, lol. what a joke.... on us. Maybe he will mutate into Dr Cornelius from planet of the Apes.
Or maybe he already is? Throw him a banana.

Tamlew Cmore Butts12 days ago ,

Yes Fauchi has massive conflict of interest due to patents held on the covid 19 virus and "vaccines" (they are not vaccines, they are gene modifying devices, NEVER before been done!) Fauchi violated federal law and engaged in gain of function studies on HIV, etc. Check out Judy Mikovits' eye witness testimony against this murderous ghoul. These gene modifying devices have HIV in them too. They are kill shots on so many levels. NO human should ever take them!!

[Feb 26, 2021] Did Fauci fakes jab?

Feb 26, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Dear Old Hedge 6 minutes ago

Unlike Fauci's fake jab, where he forgot which arm it was as he lied into the camera, no one will forget where the swab went.

Fauci -Points-To- Wrong - Arm -After-Vaccine & Wrong Arm ! Dr. Anthony "Pinocchio" Fauci - YouTube

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[Feb 26, 2021] And now for the chaser

The IFR is down around 2% now, and the overall population fatality rate is 1/10 of that, so about 0.2%.
Fraudulently used PCR tests inflated numbers
Feb 26, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

And now for the chaser; The CDC just admitted in its own report that asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic transmission within households - a key justification for lockdowns - turns out to be virtually nonexistent. Household transmission is the primary mode of infection for COVID-19.

Yah. But there are still guys out there yammering about "superspreader" events and blaming everything on the Sturgis bike rally last August.

Evil-Edward-Hyde 21 minutes ago

Taking away our freedom

one mask at a time.

[Feb 26, 2021] No Household Asymptomatic Spread

Feb 26, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

The CDC just admitted in its own report that asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic transmission within households - a key justification for lockdowns - turns out to be virtually nonexistent. Household transmission is the primary mode of infection for COVID-19.

As The Federalist 's Georgi Boorman writes:

The Jan. 29 report's conclusion seems to fit the pro-mask narrative, of course: "Schools might be able to safely open with appropriate mitigation efforts [such as masking and not allowing student cohorts to mix] in place." In the 17 rural Wisconsin schools surveyed, only seven cases were linked to in-school transmission out of 4,876 pupils, and no staff members were infected at school during the study period.

While the report spends ample time explaining the mitigation strategies employed in the schools and the high reported mask compliance (92%) among students, the authors later discuss something you probably have not seen in any of the mainstream media's coverage of this report:

"Children might be more likely to be asymptomatic carriers of COVID-19 than are adults This apparent lack of transmission [in schools] is consistent with recent research (5), which found an asymptomatic attack rate of only 0.7% within households and a lower rate of transmission from children than from adults. However, this study was unable to rule out asymptomatic transmission within the school setting because surveillance testing was not conducted" (emphasis added).

The study, a meta-analysis of 54 studies into household transmission of COVID-19, was posted as a pre-print over the summer and published in December.

The most significant portion of the analysis finds that while asymptomatic and presymptomatic cases account for just 0.7% of transmission, symptomatic cases had an 18% attack rate within the household. In other words, most people who contract COVID-19 at home were infected by someone who was visibly ill .

"Estimated mean household secondary attack rate from symptomatic index cases ( 18.0% ; 95% CI, 14.2%-22.1%) was significantly higher than from asymptomatic or presymptomatic index cases ( 0.7% ; 95% CI, 0%-4.9%; P < .001), although there were few studies in the latter group. These findings are consistent with other household studies28,70 reporting asymptomatic index cases as having limited role in household transmission," reads the study.

As Boorman continues: " The key, if not central, rationale for non-pharmaceutical interventions such as masking, distancing, and staying at home is allegedly significant transmission from people who don't show symptoms . If the contagiousness of people without symptoms is not what drives the spread of SARS-COV-2, then no COVID restriction on public life besides staying home when you are clearly sick could be justified, considering the obvious negative consequences of these restrictions."

Read the rest of the report here .


homeskillet 41 minutes ago (Edited)

The CDC is virtually a private organization whose sole profits come from the sale of their fraudulent and destructive vaccines which members hold patents to. This medical tyranny must be burned to the ground.

BurningFuld 30 minutes ago remove link

I got one for ya:

In 2020, 58,972,613 people died worldwide.

In 2019, 58,390,000 people died worldwide.

In 2018, 57,630,000 people died worldwide.

In 2017, 56,940,000 people died worldwide.

In 2016, 56,330,000 people died worldwide.

In 2015, 55,820,000 people died worldwide.

On average from 2015 to 2020, 630,523 more people die each year.

In 2019, there were 760,000 more deaths worldwide than in 2018.

In 2020, there were 582,613 more deaths worldwide than in 2019.

Contrary to what almost all people believe because of the non-stop media brainwashing, there wasn't any unusual amount of worldwide excess deaths in 2020, in truth, there were slightly fewer deaths.

In 2020, 582,613 more people died than in 2019, a decrease of 177,387 deaths from the 760,000 excess deaths in 2019 versus 2018. Also, the 582,613 excess deaths in 2020 were 47,910 below the yearly average increase of 630,523 deaths from 2015 to 2020.

In 2020 there were "supposedly" 1,833,737 deaths from Covid-19.

So, why aren't these "supposed" 1,833,737 deaths from Covid-19 in 2020 showing up in the 2020 worldwide death rate?

csc61 38 minutes ago

CDC is a for-profit organization that obtains the majority of its income via pharmaceuticals. So, pardon me if I'm a little suspicious.

Now you'll have to excuse me .... I'm off to ask the fox if I should lock up the henhouse at night.

adr 27 minutes ago

So, only 18% of people exposed to symptomatic people in their own home tested positive?

Where's the danger?

Less than a 20% chance of being infected when you are in an enclosed area with a symptomatic person, and near zero chance of getting infected from "asymptomatic" people.

Tenebrose 18 minutes ago

It's always been about control.

BinAnunnaki 31 minutes ago

Asymptomatic is simply a false positive

[Jan 27, 2021] 'Crazy and evil'- Bill Gates surprised by pandemic conspiracies - Reuters

Jan 27, 2021 | www.reuters.com

'Crazy and evil': Bill Gates surprised by pandemic conspiracies

By Kate Kelland

3 MIN READ

LONDON (Reuters) - Microsoft co-founder turned philanthropist Bill Gates says he has been taken aback by the volume of "crazy" and "evil" conspiracy theories about him spreading on social media during the COVID-19 pandemic, but said on Wednesday he would like to explore what is behind them.

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In an interview with Reuters, Gates said the millions of online posts and "crazy conspiracy theories" about him and about top U.S. infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci had likely taken hold in part because of the combination of a frightening viral pandemic and the rise of social media.

"Nobody would have predicted that I and Dr. Fauci would be so prominent in these really evil theories," Gates said.

"I'm very surprised by that. I hope it goes away."

Gates, a billionaire who stepped down as chairman of Microsoft Corp in 2014, has through his philanthropic Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation committed at least $1.75 billion to the global response to the COVID-19 pandemic. That includes support for some makers of vaccines, diagnostics and potential treatments.

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Since the pandemic began a year ago, millions of conspiracies have spread over the Internet, fuelling misinformation about the coronavirus, its origins and the motives of those working to fight it.

They include claims that Fauci and Gates created the pandemic to try and control people, that they want to profit from the virus' spread, and that they want to use vaccines to insert trackable microchips into people.

"But do people really believe that stuff?," Gates asked.

"We're really going to have to get educated about this over the next year and understand .. how does it change peoples' behaviour and how should we have minimized this?"

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EXCITED ABOUT BIDEN

Gates praised Fauci and Francis Collins, head of the U.S. National Institutes of Health, as "smart" and "wonderful people", and said he looked forward to seeing them able to work effectively and speak the truth under the new administration of President Joe Biden.

During former President Donald Trump's handling of the pandemic, Gates said, it had "sometimes felt like they were the only sane people in the U.S. government."

"I'm excited about the team that Biden has picked" to tackle the health crisis, Gates said.

Gates said he was also pleased that under Biden, the United States has rejoined the World Health Organization, and "that he's appointed smart people, and the fact that Dr. Fauci won't be suppressed."

[Jan 21, 2021] Suddenly Optimistic Fauci Sees Pandemic -Plateauing,- Feels -Liberated- Under Biden Admin - ZeroHedge

Jan 21, 2021 | www.zerohedge.com

Suddenly Optimistic Fauci Sees Pandemic "Plateauing," Feels "Liberated" Under Biden Admin BY TYLER DURDEN THURSDAY, JAN 21, 2021 - 16:57

Summary:

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Update (1415ET): We've seen a flurry of new coronavirus news reported published early this afternoon, beginning with a slight ray of hope for Washington DC residents after a difficult week. On Friday, the inauguration-related "pause" on dining in public will be lifted, allowing Americans to eat indoors, so long as the capacity is 25% of total.

Elsewhere, vaccine skepticism is once again the name of the game in France on Thursday, where President Emmanuel Macron warned French politicians and the French people not to assume that the virus will simply disappear once vaccinations are complete.

In other news, a reporter grilling Joe Biden about the US's weak vaccination targets elicited a frustrated response from Biden, who raged "Give me a Break!" at the reporter in question. Here's how that went down.

REPORTER: "You set the goal at 100 million vaccines, is that high enough? Should you set the bar higher? That's basically where the US is right now." BIDEN: "When I announced it, you all said that it's not possible. Come on. Give me a break, man".

As if the press hasn't already fawned over Biden enough...but we digress. In other news, Biden insisted that wearing masks until April may help save 50K lives, another number apparently pulled out of a hat.

Finally, Dr. Fauci said Thursday that it looks like new cases in the USA might actually be plateauing, despite the holiday surge we were promised by him a few months ago. But where is this more optimistic frame of mind based on? Well, the diminutive doctor admitted that he feels "liberated" by Biden.

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=830

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The data would appear to bear that out.

Finally, in Europe, where travel bans, curfews and lockdown extensions continue (even as Bavaria bucks the trend in Europe) the UK is now banning arrivals from Tanzania and the Democratic Republic of Congo. Across the continent, EU leaders are agreeing that lockdown measures need to be strengthened, despite the growing body of evidence that they do little to stop the spread of the virus, according to a massive peer-reviewed study that hit recently.

They're even agreeing that across the Continent, all leisure and business travel must be curbed, at least for now. In the Netherlands, PM Mark Rutte has unsurprisingly managed to convince residents that a travel ban is ready,

And so much for all the mutant strains that policy makers have used to justify new lockdowns in the US, because Bloomberg's data shows cases are now falling in the vast majority of the US. In 42 US states, the seven-day case average has fallen more than 10% from a week earlier, while the other four had more modest drops, according to Covid Tracking Project data. Overall, the US seven-day average is down 20% from a week ago, to 192,825, because the drop is much greater in some states, down 39% in Missouri, for instance.

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Yesterday was a mixed bag for the US on the COVID front: After the US topped 400K COVID deaths earlier this year, the US saw a new daily record number of deaths to coincide with Biden's inauguration. Meanwhile, the WHO finally acknowledged that the "conspiracy theorists" were right about the COVID "case-demic", and that Ct overmagnification during PCR testing might be producing many false positives.

On Monday, it appears more evidence is beginning to emerge that COVID hospitalizations in the US are seeing a trajectory-shift which should feed through to lower mortality numbers in the weeks ahead, according to models produced by analysts at Goldman Sachs.

An analysis of how vaccinations are impacting hospitalizations shows that there is a correlation between growing vaccination numbers, and lower hospitalizations.

Before introducing a second chart, the Goldman team writes that it "analyzed hospitalizations for the 25 largest states (by population) representing 88% of all US hospitalizations. We find there has been a 55% correlation between the vaccinations as of the beginning of the year and the YTD decline in hospitalizations. This further supports the connection between recent vaccinations and the decline in hospitalizations."

As the COVID Tracking Project data show, daily cases have continued to move lower in all four regions of the country, while nationally hospitalizations have started to dip (a trend that, as Goldman's charts suggest, may be extended).

It's just the latest sign that Wall Street truly believes that we have reached "the beginning of the end" of COVID ...whether that actually turns out to be accurate, however, is another story.

Meanwhile, after Biden officially ordered the US to halt its departure from the WHO yesterday and rejoin its Covax vaccine-sharing program spearheaded by Bill Gates, Dr. Anthony Fauci appeared at an early morning meeting Thursday where he reaffirmed America's commitment to the WHO.

Dr. Fauci, who will now lead the US delegation, said "I am honored to announce that the United States will remain a member of the World Health Organization." His words marked the first public statement by a member of Biden's administration to an international audience - and a sign of the priority that the new president has made of fighting COVID-19 both at home and with world partners.

Meanwhile, over in the EU, Viktor Orban's Hungary has become the first EU country to grant approval to "Sputnik V", the COVID vaccine developed by the Gameleya Institute and Russia's Sovereign Wealth Fund. Orban's regime coupled the approval with a complaint that it has been unable to procure enough (western-made) vaccines from Brussels, and so has been forced to look elsewhere. The UAE also approved the vaccine for emergency use on Thursday.

Here's some more COVID news from overnight and Thursday morning:

Thailand approved AstraZeneca's COVID vaccine for emergency use, making way for the country to begin inoculating its 67MM people as it endures an increase in coronavirus cases (Source: Bloomberg).

Saudi Arabia and Kuwait said they would reschedule vaccine appointments because of supply delays from Pfizer. Lebanon extended its nationwide lockdown, which began last week, for another two weeks (Source: Bloomberg).

Ireland has become the latest European country to extend its lockdown, which will continue "well into February" before the rules are "reviewed", Prime Minister Micheal Martin said (Source: Bloomberg).

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Finally, in the UK, the mutant COVID strain appears to be causing major strife as early evidence shows the strict lockdowns - England's third, which citizens are starting to rebel against - haven't had much near-term impact on reducing case numbers. The UK suffered its deadliest day yet, with 1.8K deaths recorded in 24 hours, as Boris Johnson's chief scientific adviser warned some hospitals now look "like a war zone."

Moreover

8 hours ago (Edited)

I'm sure the timing of this announcement, along with the WHO test story (posted above) and Xiden's installation, is just a coincidence . play_arrow 49 play_arrow 1


SERReal1 8 hours ago

Nothing to see here, move along.

Bill of Rights 8 hours ago

These people have been LYING to your faces since DAY 1..

pro·le·tar·i·at 46 minutes ago

15 days to flatten the curve bro

adr 8 hours ago remove link

You only have a .3% chance of coming into contact with someone who has tested positive within the last month.

You have around a .01% chance of coming into contact with someone who is currently symptomatic.

4.5 million people were seriously injured last year in automobile accidents with many leading to permanent disability.

You have a greater chance of being hospitalized from an automobile accident than coming into contact with someone who has tested positive for Covid and could maybe be contagious.

If you are under 60, you have a far greater chance of being killed in an auto accident than being hospitalized for Covid. Even higher than coming into contact with someone who tested positive and is symptomatic.

We are forced to wear masks for odds that are infinitesimal.

freedommusic 8 hours ago (Edited) remove link

It's funny, for a long time I've been hearing about all these empty hospitals and then there are a few that are reported as overwhelmed. I was wondering what could account for this discrepancy? I just heard yesterday directly from someone who was there, that these hospitals are overrun with homeless and illegals claiming they are sick looking for a free meal and a bed. Very clever, they use the homeless to steal votes from and to fill up the hospitals.

Makes perfect sense now why they have shut down all charities attempting to feed the homeless . They are competing with the hospitals where they need those bodies so the media can film them for their propaganda to perpetuate this pandemic myth.

What a friggin sinister operation...

TRM 7 hours ago

Robert Kennedy Jr has been doing a lot of work with his "Children's Health Defence Organisation".

The CDC is over counting covid-19 deaths by 90%

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/if-covid-fatalities-were-90-2-lower-how-would-you-feel-about-schools-reopening/

Why is the USA counting deaths of people WITH covid-19 as deaths FROM it? Gunshots, auto accidents are being counted as covid-19 deaths if they test positive.

- Conclusion: If it was as bad as the government says they would NOT have to inflate the numbers.

And now even the CDC is admitting it:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

"This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to admit that only 6% of all the 153,504 deaths recorded actually died from Covid-19. That's 9,210 deaths.

The other 94% had 2-3 other serious illnesses & the overwhelming majority were of very advanced age; 90% in nursing homes. "

[Jan 14, 2021] Proof that Dr. Fauci Is Responsible For Every Single Covid Mistake Blamed on Trump

Pretty reveling video :-)
Oct 21, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Slenderman2008 a day ago

Here is YOUR scientist!

Proof that Dr. Fauci Is Responsible For Every Single Covid Mistake Blamed on Trump

Proof Dr. Fauci Is Responsible For Every Single Mistake - YouTube

[Dec 29, 2020] Fauci blunders and chameleon style behaviour

Dec 29, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Anthony Fauci says lockdowns are not possible in the United States (January 24):

When asked about the mass quarantine containment efforts underway in Wuhan, China back in January, Fauci dismissed the prospect of lockdowns ever coming to the United States :

"That's something that I don't think we could possibly do in the United States, I can't imagine shutting down New York or Los Angeles, but the judgement on the part of the Chinese health authorities is that given the fact that it's spreading throughout the provinces it's their judgement that this is something that in fact is going to help in containing it. Whether or not it does or does not is really open to question because historically when you shut things down it doesn't have a major effect."

Less than two months later, 43 of 50 US states were under lockdown – a policy advocated by Fauci himself.

... ... ...

Surgeon General Jerome Adams tweeted against masks on February 29. Anthony Fauci publicly discouraged mask use in a nationally broadcast 60 Minutes interview on March 7. At a March 30 World Health Organization briefing its Director-General supported mask use in medical settings but dissuaded the same in the general public.

By mid-summer, all had reversed course and encouraged mask-wearing in the general public as an essential tool for halting the pandemic. Fauci essentially conceded that he lied to the public in order to prevent a shortage on masks, whereas other health officials did an about-face on the scientific claims around masking.

  1. Anthony Fauci 's decimal error in estimating Covid's fatality rates (March 11)

Fauci testified before Congress in early March where he was asked to estimate the severity of the disease in comparison to influenza. His testimony that Covid was "10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu" stoked widespread alarm and provided a major impetus for the decision to go into lockdown.

The problem, as Ronald Brown documented in an epidemiology journal article , is that Fauci based his estimates on a conflation of the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) and Case Fatality Rate (CFR) for influenza, leading him to exaggerate the comparative danger of Covid by an order of magnitude. Fauci's error – which he further compounded in a late February article for the New England Journal of Medicine – helped to convince Congress of the need for drastic lockdown measures, while also spreading panic in the media and general public. As of this writing Fauci has not acknowledged the magnitude of his error, nor has the journal corrected his article.

  1. Anthony Fauci credits lockdowns for beating the virus in Europe (July 31)

In late July Anthony Fauci offered additional testimony to Congress. His message credited Europe's heavy lockdowns with defeating the virus, whereas he blamed the United States for reopening too early and for insufficient aggressiveness in the initial lockdowns. As Fauci stated at the time, "If you look at what happened in Europe, when they shut down or locked down or went to shelter in place -- however you want to describe it -- they really did it to the tune of about 95% plus of the country did that."

The message was clear: the United States should have followed Europe, but failed to do so and got a summer wave of Covid instead. Fauci's entire argument however was based on a string of falsehoods and errors.

  1. Anthony Fauci touts New York as a model for Covid containment (June-December)

By all indicators, New York state has suffered one of the worst coronavirus outbreaks in the world. Its year-end mortality rate of almost 1,900 deaths per million residents exceeds every single country in the world. The state famously bungled its nursing home response when Governor Andrew Cuomo forced these facilities to readmit Covid-positive patients as a way to relieve strains on hospitals. The policy backfired as most hospitals never reached capacity, but the readmissions introduced the virus into vulnerable nursing home populations resulting in widespread fatalities (to this day New York intentionally undercounts nursing home fatalities by excluding residents who are moved to a hospital from its reported numbers, further obscuring the true toll of Cuomo's order).

New York has also fared poorly during the fall "second wave" despite reimposing harsh restrictions and regional lockdown measures. By mid-December, its death rate shot far above the mostly-open state of Florida, which has the closest comparable population size to New York. All things considered, New York's weathering of the pandemic is an exemplar of what not to do.

Cuomo's policies not only failed to contain the virus – they likely made it far more deadly to vulnerable populations. Enter Anthony Fauci, who has been asked multiple times in the press what a model Covid response policy would look like. He gave his first answer on July 20th : "We know that, when you do it properly, you bring down those cases. We have done it. We have done it in New York."

Fauci was operating under the assumption that New York, despite its bad run in the spring, had successfully brought the pandemic under control through its aggressive lockdowns and slow reopening. One might think that the fall rebound in New York, despite locking down again, would call this conclusion into question. Not so much for Dr. Fauci, who told the Wall Street Journal on December 8 : "New York got hit really badly in the beginning" but they did "a really good job of keeping things down, and still, their level is low compared to the rest of the country."

[Dec 28, 2020] Twelve Times The 'Lockdowners' Were Wrong - ZeroHedge

Dec 28, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Twelve Times The 'Lockdowners' Were Wrong BY TYLER DURDEN SUNDAY, DEC 27, 2020 - 23:35

Authored by Phillip Magness via The American Institute for Economic Research,

This has been a year of astonishing policy failure. We are surrounded by devastation conceived and cheered by intellectuals and their political handmaidens...

The errors number in the thousands, so please consider the following little more than a first draft, a mere guide to what will surely be unearthed in the coming months and years. We trusted these people with our lives and liberties and here is what they did with that trust.

  1. Anthony Fauci says lockdowns are not possible in the United States (January 24):

When asked about the mass quarantine containment efforts underway in Wuhan, China back in January, Fauci dismissed the prospect of lockdowns ever coming to the United States :

"That's something that I don't think we could possibly do in the United States, I can't imagine shutting down New York or Los Angeles, but the judgement on the part of the Chinese health authorities is that given the fact that it's spreading throughout the provinces it's their judgement that this is something that in fact is going to help in containing it. Whether or not it does or does not is really open to question because historically when you shut things down it doesn't have a major effect."

Less than two months later, 43 of 50 US states were under lockdown – a policy advocated by Fauci himself.

  1. US government and WHO officials advise against mask use (February and March)

When mask sales spiked due to widespread individual adoption in the early weeks of the pandemic, numerous US government and WHO officials took to the airwaves to describe masks as ineffective and discourage their use.

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Surgeon General Jerome Adams tweeted against masks on February 29. Anthony Fauci publicly discouraged mask use in a nationally broadcast 60 Minutes interview on March 7. At a March 30 World Health Organization briefing its Director-General supported mask use in medical settings but dissuaded the same in the general public.

By mid-summer, all had reversed course and encouraged mask-wearing in the general public as an essential tool for halting the pandemic. Fauci essentially conceded that he lied to the public in order to prevent a shortage on masks, whereas other health officials did an about-face on the scientific claims around masking.

While mainstream epidemiology literature stressed the ambiguous nature of evidence surrounding masks as recently as 2019 , these scientists were suddenly certain that masks were something of a magic bullet for Covid. It turns out that both positions are likely wrong. Masks appear to have marginal effects at diminishing spread, especially in highly infectious settings and around the vulnerable. But their effectiveness at combating Covid has also been grossly exaggerated, as illustrated by the fact that mask adoption reached near-universal levels in the US by the summer with little discernible effect on the course of the pandemic.

  1. Anthony Fauci 's decimal error in estimating Covid's fatality rates (March 11)

Fauci testified before Congress in early March where he was asked to estimate the severity of the disease in comparison to influenza. His testimony that Covid was "10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu" stoked widespread alarm and provided a major impetus for the decision to go into lockdown.

The problem, as Ronald Brown documented in an epidemiology journal article , is that Fauci based his estimates on a conflation of the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) and Case Fatality Rate (CFR) for influenza, leading him to exaggerate the comparative danger of Covid by an order of magnitude. Fauci's error – which he further compounded in a late February article for the New England Journal of Medicine – helped to convince Congress of the need for drastic lockdown measures, while also spreading panic in the media and general public. As of this writing Fauci has not acknowledged the magnitude of his error, nor has the journal corrected his article.

  1. "Two weeks to flatten the curve" (March 16)

The lockdowners settled on a catchy slogan in mid-March to justify their unprecedented shuttering of economic and social life around the globe: two weeks to flatten the curve. The White House Covid task force aggressively promoted this line , as did the news media and much of the epidemiology profession. The logic behind the slogan came from the ubiquitous graph showing (1) a steep caseload that would overwhelm our hospital system, or (2) a mitigated alternative that would spread the caseload out over several weeks, making it manageable.

To get to graph #2, society would need to buckle up for two weeks of shelter-in-place orders until the capacity issue could be managed. Indeed, we were told that if we did not accept this solution the hospital system would enter into catastrophic failure in only 10 days, as former DHS pandemic adviser Tom Bossert claimed in a widely-circulated interview and Washington Post column on March 11.

Two weeks came and went, then the rationale on which they were sold to the public shifted. Hospitals were no longer on the verge of being overwhelmed – indeed most hospitals nationwide remained well under capacity, with only a tiny number of exceptions in the worst-hit neighborhoods of New York City.

A US Navy hospital ship sent to relieve New York departed a month later after serving only 182 patients , and a pop-up hospital in the city's Javits Convention Center sat mostly empty . But the lockdowns remained in place, as did the emergency orders justifying them. Two weeks became a month, which became two months, which became almost a year. We were no longer "flattening the curve" – a strategy premised on saving the hospital system from a threat than never manifested – but instead refocused on using lockdowns as a general suppression strategy against the disease itself. In short, the epidemiology profession sold us a bill of goods.

  1. Neil Ferguson predicts a "best case" US scenario of 1.1 million deaths (March 20)

The name Neil Ferguson, the lead modeler and chief spokesman for Imperial College London's pandemic response team, has become synonymous with lockdown alarmism for good reason. Ferguson has a long track record of making grossly exaggerated predictions of catastrophic death tolls for almost every single disease that comes along, and urging aggressive policy responses to the same including lockdowns.

Covid was no different, and Ferguson assumed center stage when he released a highly influential model of the virus's death forecasts for the US and UK. Ferguson appeared with UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson on March 16 to announce the shift toward lockdowns (with no small irony, he was coming down with Covid himself at the time and may have been the patient zero of a super-spreader event that ran through Downing Street and infected Johnson himself).

Across the Atlantic, Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx cited Ferguson's model as a direct justification for locking down the US. There was a problem though: Ferguson had a bad habit of dramatically hyping his own predictions to political leaders and the press. The Imperial College paper modeled a broad range of scenarios including death tolls that ranged from tens of thousands to over 2 million, but Ferguson's public statements only stressed the latter – even though the paper itself conceded that such an extreme "worst case" scenario was highly unrealistic. A telling example came on March 20th when the New York Times's Nicholas Kristof contacted the Imperial College modeler to ask about the most likely scenario for the United States. As Kristof related to his readers, "I asked Ferguson for his best case. "About 1.1 million deaths," he said."

  1. Researchers in Sweden use the Imperial College model to predict 95,000 deaths (April 10)

After Neil Ferguson's shocking death toll predictions for the US and UK captivated policymaker attention and drove both governments into lockdown, researchers in other countries began adapting the Imperial College model to their own circumstances. Usually, these models sought to reaffirm the decisions of each country to lock down. The government of Sweden, however, had decided to buck the trend, setting the stage for a natural experiment to test the Imperial model's performance.

In early April a team of researchers at Uppsala University adapted the Imperial model to Sweden's population and demographics and ran its projections. Their result? If Sweden stayed the course and did not lock down, it could expect a catastrophic 96,000 deaths by early summer. The authors of the study recommended going into immediate lockdown, but since Sweden lagged behind Europe in adopting such measures they also predicted that this "best case" option would reduce deaths to "only" 30,000.

By early June when the 96,000 prediction was supposed to come true, Sweden had recorded 4,600 deaths. Six months later, Sweden has about 8,000 deaths – a severe pandemic to be sure, but an order of magnitude smaller than what the modelers predicted . Facing embarrassment from these results, Ferguson and Imperial College attempted to distance themselves from the Swedish adaptation of their model in early May. Yet the Uppsala team's projections closely matched Imperial's own UK and US predictions when scaled to reflect their population sizes. In short, the Imperial model catastrophically failed one of the few clear natural experiment tests of its predictive ability.

  1. Scientists suggest that ocean spray spreads Covid (April 2)

In the second week of the lockdowns several newspapers in California promoted a bizarre theory: Covid could spread by ocean spray (although the paper later walked back the headline-grabbing claim, it is outlined here in the Los Angeles Times ). According to this theory – initially promoted by a group of biologists who study bacterial infection connected to storm runoff – the Covid virus washed down storm gutters and into the ocean, where the ocean breeze would kick it up into the air and infect people on the nearby beaches. As silly as this theory now sounds, it helped to inform California's initially draconian enforcement of lockdowns on its public beaches.

The same week that this modern-day miasmic drift theory appeared, police in Malibu even arrested a lone paddleboarder for going into the ocean during the lockdown – all while citing the possibility that the ocean breeze carried Covid with it.

  1. Neil Ferguson predicts catastrophic death tolls in US states that reopen (May 24)

Fresh off of their exaggerated predictions from March, the Imperial College team led by Neil Ferguson doubled down on alarmist modeling. As several US states started to reopen in late April and May, Ferguson and his colleagues published a new model predicting another catastrophic wave of deaths by the mid-summer. Their model focused on 5 states with both moderate and severe outbreaks during the first wave. If they reopened, according to the Imperial team's model, New York could face up to 3,000 deaths per day by July.

Florida could hit as high as 4,000, and California could hit 5,000 daily deaths. Keeping in mind that these projections were for each state alone, they exceed the daily death toll peaks for the entire country in both the fall and spring. Showing just how bad the Imperial model was, the actual death toll by mid-July in several of the examined states even fell below the lower confidence boundary of its projected count . While Covid remains a threat in all 5 states, the post-reopening explosion of deaths predicted by Imperial College and used to argue for keeping the lockdowns in place never happened.

  1. Anthony Fauci credits lockdowns for beating the virus in Europe (July 31)

In late July Anthony Fauci offered additional testimony to Congress. His message credited Europe's heavy lockdowns with defeating the virus, whereas he blamed the United States for reopening too early and for insufficient aggressiveness in the initial lockdowns. As Fauci stated at the time, "If you look at what happened in Europe, when they shut down or locked down or went to shelter in place -- however you want to describe it -- they really did it to the tune of about 95% plus of the country did that."

The message was clear: the United States should have followed Europe, but failed to do so and got a summer wave of Covid instead. Fauci's entire argument however was based on a string of falsehoods and errors.

Mobility data from the US clearly showed that most Americans were staying home during the spring outbreak, with a recorded decline that matched Germany, the Netherlands, and several other European countries. Contrary to Fauci's claim, the US was actually slower than most of Europe to reopen. Furthermore, his praise of Europe collapsed in the early fall when almost all of the lockdown countries in Europe experienced severe second waves – just like the locked down regions of the United States.

  1. New Zealand and Australia declare themselves Covid-free (August-present)

New Zealand and Australia have thus far weathered the pandemic with extremely low case counts, leading many epidemiologists and journalists to conflate these results with evidence of their successful and replicable mitigation policies. In reality, New Zealand and Australia opted for the medieval ' Prince Prospero' strategy of attempting to wall themselves from the world until the pandemic passes – an approach that is highly dependent on their unique geographies.

As island nations with comparatively lower international travel than North America and Europe, both countries shut down their borders before the as-of-yet undetected virus became widespread and have remained closed ever since. It's a costly strategy in terms of its economic impact and personal displacement, but it kept the virus out – mostly.

The problem with New Zealand and Australia's Prince Prospero strategy is that it's inherently fragile. All it takes to throw it into chaos is for the virus to slip past the border – including by accident or human error. Then heavy-handed lockdowns ensue, imposed with maximum disruption at the spur of the moment in a frantic attempt to contain the breach.

The most famous example happened on August 9 when New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern declared that New Zealand had reached 100 days of being Covid-free . Then just two days later a breach happened , sending Auckland into heavy lockdown. It's a pattern that has repeated itself every few weeks in both countries.

In early December, we saw a similar flurry of stories from Australia announcing that the country had beaten Covid . Two weeks later, another breach occurred in the suburbs around Sydney, prompting a regional lockdown . There have been embarrassing missteps as well. In November the entire state of South Australia went into heavy lockdown over a single misreported case of Covid that was mistakenly attributed to a pizza purchase that did not exist. While both countries continue to celebrate their low fatality rates, they've also incurred some of the harshest and most disruptive restrictions in the world – all the result of premature declarations of being "Covid-free" followed by an unexpected breach and another frantic lockdown.

  1. "Renewed lockdowns are just a strawman" (October)

In early October a group of scientists met at AIER where they drafted and signed the Great Barrington Declaration , a statement calling attention to the severe social and economic harms of lockdowns and urging the world to adopt alternative strategies for ensuring the protection of the most vulnerable. Although the statement quickly gathered tens of thousands of co-signers from health science and medical professionals, it also left the lockdown supporters incensed. They responded not by scientific debate over the merits of their policies, but with a vilification campaign .

They answered by flooding the petition with hoax signatures and juvenile name-calling, and by peddling wildly false conspiracy theories about AIER's funding (the primary instigator of both tactics, ironically, was a UK blogger known for promoting 9/11 Truther conspiracies ). But the lockdowners also adopted another narrative: they began to deny that lockdowns were even on the table.

Nobody was considering bringing back the lockdowns from the spring, they insisted. Arguing against the politically unpopular shelter-in-place orders in the fall only served the purpose of undermining public support for narrower and more temperate restrictions. The Great Barrington authors, we were told, were arguing with a "strawman" from the past.

Over the next several weeks in October a dozen or more prominent epidemiologists, public health experts, and journalists peddled the "lockdowns are a strawman" line . The "strawman" claim saw promotion in top outlets including the New York Times , and in an op-ed by two principle co-signers of the John Snow Memorandum, a competing petition that lockdown supporters drafted as a response to the Great Barrington Declaration.

The message was clear: the GBD was sounding a false alarm against policies from the past that the lockdowners "reluctantly" supported in the spring as an emergency measure but had no intention of reviving. By early November, the "strawman" of renewed lockdowns became a reality in dozens of countries across the globe – often cheered on by the very same people who used the "strawman" canard in October.

Several US states followed suit including California, which imposed severe restrictions on private gatherings up to and including meeting your own family for Thanksgiving and Christmas. And a few weeks after that, some of the very same epidemiologists who used the "strawman" line in October revised their own positions after the fact. They started claiming they had supported a second lockdown all along, and began blaming the GBD for impeding their efforts to impose them at an earlier date. In short, the entire "lockdowns are a strawman" narrative was false. And it now appears that more than a few of the scientists who used it were actively lying about their own intentions in October.

  1. Anthony Fauci touts New York as a model for Covid containment (June-December)

By all indicators, New York state has suffered one of the worst coronavirus outbreaks in the world. Its year-end mortality rate of almost 1,900 deaths per million residents exceeds every single country in the world. The state famously bungled its nursing home response when Governor Andrew Cuomo forced these facilities to readmit Covid-positive patients as a way to relieve strains on hospitals. The policy backfired as most hospitals never reached capacity, but the readmissions introduced the virus into vulnerable nursing home populations resulting in widespread fatalities (to this day New York intentionally undercounts nursing home fatalities by excluding residents who are moved to a hospital from its reported numbers, further obscuring the true toll of Cuomo's order).

New York has also fared poorly during the fall "second wave" despite reimposing harsh restrictions and regional lockdown measures. By mid-December, its death rate shot far above the mostly-open state of Florida, which has the closest comparable population size to New York. All things considered, New York's weathering of the pandemic is an exemplar of what not to do.

Cuomo's policies not only failed to contain the virus – they likely made it far more deadly to vulnerable populations. Enter Anthony Fauci, who has been asked multiple times in the press what a model Covid response policy would look like. He gave his first answer on July 20th : "We know that, when you do it properly, you bring down those cases. We have done it. We have done it in New York."

Fauci was operating under the assumption that New York, despite its bad run in the spring, had successfully brought the pandemic under control through its aggressive lockdowns and slow reopening. One might think that the fall rebound in New York, despite locking down again, would call this conclusion into question. Not so much for Dr. Fauci, who told the Wall Street Journal on December 8 : "New York got hit really badly in the beginning" but they did "a really good job of keeping things down, and still, their level is low compared to the rest of the country."

[Dec 27, 2020] Fauci admits to LYING about Covid-19 herd immunity threshold to manipulate public support for vaccine, moves goal post to 90%

Is Fauci a charlatan?
Dec 27, 2020 | www.rt.com
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the epidemiologist revered almost religiously as a hero by mainstream media outlets and Democrat politicians, has admitted that he lied to Americans to manipulate their acceptance of a new Covid-19 vaccine.

The intentional deception involved estimates for what percentage of the population will need to be immunized to achieve herd immunity against Covid-19 and enable a return to normalcy.

Earlier this year, Fauci said 60-70 percent – a typical range for such a virus – but he moved the goalposts to 70-75 percent in television interviews about a month ago. Last week, he told CNBC that the magic number would be around "75, 80, 85 percent."

When pressed on the moving target in a New York Times interview , Fauci said he purposely revised his estimates gradually. The newspaper, which posted the article on Thursday, said Fauci changed his answers partly based on "science" and partly on his hunch "that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks."

"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent," Fauci said.

Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, 'I can nudge this up a bit,' so I went to 80, 85.

Fauci added that he doesn't know the real number but believes the range is 70-90 percent. He said it may take nearly 90 percent, but he won't give that number because Americans might be discouraged, knowing that voluntary acceptance won't be high enough to reach that goal.

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But the doctor's changing story on herd immunity is only the latest in a series of Covid-19 flip-flops, including 180-degree shifts on such core issues as whether members of the general public should wear masks and whether children should be sent back to school.

Just as his tone on herd immunity changed, his view on prospects for a return to normalcy shifted dramatically. A few days before the November 3 presidential election, he echoed Biden's gloomy Covid-19 outlook and implied that the Democrat challenger would deal with the crisis more seriously than President Donald Trump. After the election, he turned far more optimistic.

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"This is not the first time that Fauci has admitted to deceiving the public for utilitarian purposes in regard to coronavirus," journalist Ari Hoffman tweeted . Another observer agreed, pointing out Fauci's flip-flop on masks. "The fact that people still listen to these experts is the most worrying thing," he said.

Setting expectations for getting economic activity back to normal is virtually impossible without realistic projections for the vaccination rate that would provide herd immunity. Dr. Moncef Slaoui, chief scientific adviser for the Trump administration's vaccine rollout, said in late November that "true herd immunity" would take place without about 70 percent of Americans being inoculated, which might be achieved by sometime in May 2021.

Fauci's admitted Covid-19 deception is symptomatic of how government officials "infantilize the American people," one commenter said . "We're going to be in trouble when we don't have Trump to blame everything on and people have to find a way to cope."


Marek Weglinski 22 hours ago 24 Dec, 2020 09:09 PM

Dr. FRAUDCI is the face of chaotic, contradictory and completely bungled approach to this pandemic, in the country which infamously claims the top spot of the number of the dead and infected. Not any hero (what did he contribute beside the lies and misinformation?), and definitely nothing to celebrate. His leadership and that of most other decision makers', thoroughly failed the American people, during this challenging time. The real heroes are the UNKNOWN, -those who put their lives on line to save others (mostly medical personnel).
It's me 23 hours ago 24 Dec, 2020 08:32 PM
And the next day, Dr Fraudci did a video: Had a good nights sleep, but the arm was a bit sore (grabbing his RIGHT arm) but it's not that bad. Really, you can't remember which arm you got Jabbed after 1 day. Normally you can't move the arm that gets jabbed with a needle without a lot of pain.
ClairvoyantHW It's me 4 hours ago 25 Dec, 2020 03:39 PM
I don't unterstand why they can't use a real placebo in the studies when Fauci just recieved one..
Arian1 It's me 18 hours ago 25 Dec, 2020 01:47 AM
It was a sugary solution. He is a demente

[Dec 27, 2020] Kary Mullis Nobel Prize Inventor of Abused PCR(not a test) Slams Antony Fauci

Fauci did not mind to go on TV and lie.
Fauci is presented as trustworthy, intelligent and a hero, all because of his status as part of the Authority: The WHO, Bill Gates, Economic Forum & Fauci
Dec 27, 2020 | www.youtube.com

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751 subscribers SUBSCRIBE If you want to find out more about the #casedemic https://healthyjean.com/corona/ . Sorry, but I do not have more context about this video. I will tell you that Kary hated Fauci because Fauci is one of the main people behind the AIDS scam. Read here straight from Kary's website https://www.karymullis.com/pdf/On_AID... On AIDS Regarding AIDS I have published a hypothesis wherein the Retroviridae in general, rather than a particular species, is the problem. This was published in Genetica 95:195- 197, 1995. It offers a mechanism for how the disease develops, and importantly makes predictions that can be experimentally confirmed or falsified easily in rodents. This hypothesis may or may not be true but it illustrates the nature of a useful scientific hypothesis. This is in contrast to the current AIDS establishment's "It's the virus, stupid!" No experiments were ever done or even suggested to test the HIV hypothesis. The fact that antiretroviral therapies may prolong the lives of some people infected with retroviruses says nothing more than the fact, that. in other cases they are not at all useful. Something is going on here that we don't understand. Scientists have to keep that in mind. If you want to see another great video on this topic of Kary then go https://youtu.be/zYYmpT2y7Io . It talks about how the PCR is not really a test. He clearly states the PCR is not being misused. What Fauci and the others are doing is amplifying the tests beyond what should be done. The issue is they use these results as is they are meaningful is the problem. He also states that the measurement is not exact. He is clearly talking about how the results are being used to say someone has AIDS when they clearly do not. Again, the interpretations are the issue. The PCR not meant to diagnose, period.


thatstheguy07
, 2 weeks ago

Excellent. Thanks for the video. I'd just like to throw this reminder out there re: the title of the video. PCR is not a test.

Carolyn Gutman Dey , 2 weeks ago

Here is a link to a larger excerpt of this interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IifgAvXU3ts However, this isn't the entire interview. I will try to find the entire interview.... everyone start searching. In any case, I think THIS part of it might not be in the link I just posted (I haven't checked yet). Because a few months ago I watched this video and I don't remember him going after Fauci this hard. But I will rewatch it to see. We need to find the original video interview as a whole, that would be best.

[Dec 27, 2020] New Study Suggests Asymptomatic COVID Patients Aren't -Driver Of Transmission

Are not so called asymptomatic cases mostly a side effect of excessive amplifications in PcR tests? So they are healthy people who were "false positives" in PcR test. If this is true they present no danger.
Dec 25, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Thanks in part to a massive investment in research by the British government, a lot of interesting data has come out of the UK, including a study which supposedly found evidence that immunity to COVID 'degrades' in the months after infection . Now, other studies have come to seemingly contradictory conclusions . It's just another reminder how fraught and complicated the process of study and research can be during an unprecedented pandemic.

It should also be a reminder, particularly as all the world's top COVID-vaccine manufacturers reassure the public that their vaccines will work against the more infectious mutated strains allegedly discovered in the UK and South Africa, among other places, that the leading scientific and public health authorities aren't always 100% certain when it comes to - as they like to call it - "the science".

And in yet another reminder of this principle, the American Medical Association's JAMA Network Open journal has published new research from a government-backed study that appears to offer new evidence that asymptomatic spread of COVID-19 may be significantly lower than previously thought.

Some members of the public might remember all the way back in February and January when public officials first speculated that mass mask-wearing might not be that helpful unless individuals were actually sick. They famously back-tracked on that, and - for that, and other reasons - decided that we should all wear masks, and that lockdowns were more or less the best solution to the problem, even as millions of Americans continued to flout the new "rules" daily.

But for those who don't, this paper makes one thing clear: For all the talk in the press about asymptomatic people being infectious, which included a heavy-handed rebuke of a WHO scientist who nonchalantly said a few months back that asymptomatic people don't spread the virus as effectively, there haven't been many large-sample-size longer-term studies that study how "asymptomatic" patients actually spread the virus vs. how "symptomatic" patients do, since most public health agencies don't even collect data on whether people who test positive are asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic, or symptomatic (a specification which, as most people probably know by now, can vary widely).

Since the pandemic has only been ongoing for less than a year now, researchers have instead tried conducting "meta studies" - that is, comparing data collected in dozens of studies examining some aspect of the virus's functionality. In the paper noted above which examined 54 separate studies with nearly 78K total participants, the authors claim that "The lack of substantial transmission from observed asymptomatic index cases is notable...These findings are consistent with other household studies reporting asymptomatic index cases as having limited role in household transmission."

This is of course not the first time we have heard this. Aside from the WHO scientist example cited above, two British scientists recently published an editorial in the BMJ imploring scientists to rethink how the virus spreads "asymptomatically".

They pointed to "the absence of strong evidence that asymptomatic people are a driver of transmission" as a reason to question such practices as "mass testing in schools, universities, and communities."

That's not to say that asymptomatic people can't spread the virus, it's just to say that maybe there is a significant difference in risk levels in terms of exposure . Of course, public health officials at this point seem to be afraid to acknowledge anything that questions the notion that everybody is potentially a threat. To be clear, the WHO's current guidance on the issue is that "while someone who never develops symptoms can also pass the virus to others, it is still not clear to what extent this occurs, and more research is needed in this area" - but at this point, they have changed their guidance and flip-flopped so many times, who even knows, understands or cares what they say?

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Anyway, it's just some more food for thought next time somebody tries to lecture you about "the science".


adr 1 hour ago (Edited) remove link

Asymptomatic people can not spread a viral infection.

This was considered fact until 2020.

valjoux7750 1 hour ago

Friend of mine passed away from non covid illness and the hospital offered to pay all his medical bills if allowed to record as covid. His wife accepted.

Robespierre2020 23 minutes ago

They will never, ever admit that asymptomatic actually means false positive. They must keep the case count up at all costs to keep stoking the fear.

Itchy and Scratchy 1 hour ago

The Big Lie is mutating quickly! Hide the women & children!

Newstarmistagain 1 hour ago

Anybody else get the feeling that this coronavirus nonsense is really nothing more than a huge Pavlovian experiment being conducted on the entire population? You do realize that Pavlov's dogs ended up catatonic, and in a state of perpetual fear, eh goiyim cattle?

PanGlossius 1 hour ago

Right on. This smells like the brute simplicity of Skinner or Pavlov programming. Crude, careless, short time horizon. Like the practitioners are just running out the clock.

namrider 1 hour ago remove link

Conflicting reports and information because it = PSYOP

MrBoompi 33 minutes ago

What is a "covid patient"? Someone who tested positive? The pcr test doesn't detect live viruses. Why would someone who is not sick, aka asymptomatic, be considered a patient?

This is the fraud we are enduring.

jomama 46 minutes ago

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w

Out of ~10,000,000 people observed, not a single case of asymptomatic transmission.

This lie has the been premise for healthy people to wear masks.

Reject the authoritarianism immediately.

[Dec 21, 2020] Do Mask Mandates Work - New Analysis Suggests They Don't

Dec 21, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Do mask mandates work? As we've noted repeatedly in recent months, evidence is piling up that they do not .

According to analysis by data expert Justin Hart, who has been following COVID-19 data for months , demonstrated in a Sunday Twitter thread that states with mask mandates had a greater number of COVID cases per 100,000 people than states without mandates .

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And while there were some objections to Hart's analysis - such as whether there might be bias towards getting tested for mask-wearers, or regional differences in population density, many of the replies to Hart's thread support his findings:

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And a hypothesis:

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Maybe the CDC, WHO, Dr. Fauci and the Surgeon General were right in February when they said masks don't work? On the other hand, they're so useful for other things...


[Dec 21, 2020] Covid19 and masks

Dec 21, 2020 | twitter.com

Kevin McKernan @Kevin_McKernan Dec 14

It's an intuitive hypothesis Since the mask doesn't kill virus, it just collects them reversing your natural defenses of expelling virus with large droplets that hit earth. The mask accelerates evaporation through capillary action making smaller droplets 2 allow deep inhalation.
Kevin McKernan @Kevin_McKernan Dec 14
In effect, the masks are a viral trampoline making the virus exponentially more infective and reaching deeper into more thrombotic tissue. Some evidence Kanas jumped on this trampoline in the summer.
Zacharias Fögen @ZachariasFoegen · Dec 14 You can translate the german intro with google if you want. The study is written in English. https:// reitschuster.de/post/studie-er hoehen-die-masken-die-sterblichkeit/
DeFauw @jdefauw Dec 14
Replying to
@Kevin_McKernan Dec 14
@Kevin_McKernan At best, we can say for aerosolized virus that mask does nothing. At worst, worse after mask saturation. For non-aerosolized virus, it would actually do some good. On the other hand, airborne transmission of this type is minimal. Handwashing, good hygiene take care of the rest.
Eric @emckinney9134 Dec 14
Replying to
@Kevin_McKernan Dec 14
@Kevin_McKernan Interesting paper. It's somewhat difficult to disambiguate increased CFR from the Foegen effect or another confounding variable (e.g., poor aseptic technique). The mathematical comparison does a good job normalizing the two groups. Plotting as a function of time may be of use.

[Dec 19, 2020] But, But, Masks!

Dec 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Much heralded COVID-19 model-student South Korea saw new infections with the virus rise again to more than 1,000 cases per day, dramatically higher than during the first wave in February and March.

Here's CNN : "In Hong Kong, Taiwan, China, South Korea, Japan and other Asian nations, mask wearing is uncontroversial, near universal, and has been proven effective ..."

Here's Forbes : " What South Korea teaches us is that ... mass production and distribution of face masks and the promotion of their use, are winning strategies in this battle. "

Here's NYTimes : "The country showed that it is possible to contain the coronavirus without shutting down the economy... Television broadcasts, subway station announcements and smartphone alerts provide endless reminders to wear face masks ..."

The head of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, has hailed South Korea as demonstrating that containing the virus, while difficult, "can be done." He urged countries to "apply the lessons learned in Korea and elsewhere."

As Statista's Willem Roper notes , the country has been praised extensively for reducing cases of COVID-19 , but a continuously climbing case count shows how the threat of new outbreaks looms even after flattening the curve (twice before).

After a second outbreak in August and September was squashed, South Korea had already tightened restrictions again.

The highest number of daily new cases in the initial wave was recorded at 813 on Feb 29.

https://610bc4ea67a8d8ec5db4f06859c42979.safeframe.googlesyndication.com/safeframe/1-0-37/html/container.html

You will find more infographics at Statista

Still, these cases being recorded now are only a sliver of those detected daily in the U.S. and Europe. There, daily new case counts of COVID-19 are still in the tens of thousands... so keep wearing your masks!!!

🔥 🔥 🔥!!!!

This is insane! Every country that introduced mandatory masks had their case numbers explode after!! Mask don't work!

Retweet!!!! pic.twitter.com/3VssX0WK4V

-- The Epigenetic Whisperer 👉The Bodhisattva Bastard (@epigwhisp) December 16, 2020

ebworthen 14 hours ago (Edited)

Because masks don't do a beaver dam thing.

Never have, never will. Especially not "surgical" masks, or cloth rags.

Symbolic only. Symbolic for oppression of the individual and the freedom of choice.

skizex 14 hours ago

and makes beaver eatin difficult if not downright unpleasant.

afronaut 13 hours ago

Thats submissive and unhygienic

Billy the Poet 13 hours ago (Edited)

Has it gotten cold enough yet for masks to start freezing to the faces of folks out in the wind waiting for a bus?

xious 11 hours ago

In the summer, I almost drowned in one. Then I quit my job the next day. Haven't worn a mask from that day, and never will again.

hawkinsse6543 7 hours ago (Edited)

Point three percent according to a Danish Study
.3% effective
I heard zinc impregnated masks work so it will increase effectiveness to what? I'm Too lazy to do the math

Sunshine, D3, Tonic Water, C, wash hands (only thing proposed I agree with) moderate preventives not a cure. But the virus goes where it goes and lets promote stopping smoke with a chicken wire fence.

artless 2 hours ago

99.8% survival rate or as we say in there real world...

a cold virus. A flu.

all BS from day one.

exactly correct about sunshine, D3 ( also known as sunshine) and if really concerned a zinc supplement as prophylaxis along with all the Vit C you want. Same as every winter as all my 51 years. Currently on a 36-38 years streak of NEVER having a flu and I have worked in every possible situation in which I should have gotten sick. Never have. never will.

Arising 2.0 13 hours ago

Masks are the elites pointing and saying 'look there' with the their right hand while stealing wealth, your freedoms and your capacity to fight back with their left hand.

dude675 13 hours ago

Wag the dog

metaforge 10 hours ago

Choke the Chinkkkkk

KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago

We're all prisoners of China, forced into solitary confinement with matching outfits.

trailer park boys 13 hours ago

If masks worked, that box of masks you bought at the drug store or online would say so. They don't. In fact, just the opposite, disclaiming any protection against any virus, including covid.

JuliaS 13 hours ago (Edited)

Masks and lockdowns worked. They weakened immunity to the point where a common cold now puts a person in a coma.

Slaytheist 13 hours ago

Fvcking NPC yelling at people to put a scrap of cotton on their face to contain a virus, because the science is settled. Maybe eugenics isn't a 100% bad thing.

afronaut 13 hours ago

I loved the eugenics program.

skizex 12 hours ago

Their's is Psyience not Science.

here's some good info this damn maskuerade

Public Health articles by Colleen Huber, NMD

Censorship vs the science regarding masks, 10/29/2020

(Co-authored) Masks: False safety and real dangers,

Part 2 : Masks and microbial challenges, 10/14/2020

(Co-authored) Masks: False safety and real dangers,

Part 1 : Loose fibers and particulate, 9/23/2020

COVID-19 is a lack of nutrients, exploited by a virus 8/27/2020

Masks are neither effective nor safe, 7/6/2020 <meta study

Free states maintain survival advantage, 6/29/2020

Lockdowns failed to reduce deaths in US, 6/12/2020

metaforge 10 hours ago

Free lead for NPCs! That's a government program I could get behind.

freedommusic 10 hours ago

Masks can't stop a psyop.

They can only measure it's effectiveness.

Fireman 8 hours ago

Best comment today!

chemist46 7 hours ago

How can they possibly work?

They are NOT designed to stop particles as small as a virus.

Surgical masks were not designed as filters and were not intended to be used as filters. Surgical masks were designed to be used by surgeons standing face down over an operating table holding a patient with an open wound. The surgeon wearing the mask would be able to talk to others in the room without discharging spittle droplets into the patient's wound. Spittle droplets are large and can cause infection.

I witnessed a test of surgical masks. Small plaster particles were generated in a room. They were visible as a white dust in the air. A man was properly fitted with a surgical mask and spent a short time in the room. When he came out the mask was removed. A camera was focused on the man's face. The entire area that had been covered by the mask was coated by the white dust. The camera showed that his nostrils and his mouth had been penetrated by the white dust. The dust particles were measured and found to be around 40 micrometers in diameter. The particles that penetrated the mask were the same diameter.

Covid-19 virus molecules are about 0.1 micrometers in diameter. That is 400 times smaller than the plaster particles that penetrated the mask.

Surgical masks will not prevent the wearer from inhaling or exhaling viruses or bacteria. They provide absolutely no protection for either the wearer or anyone nearby. They create a very dangerous false sense of security for everyone. They also force the wearer to rebreath carbon dioxide. Which will over time reduce the wearers blood oxygen level. That can become very dangerous especially for older people.

This farce is being promoted by sleazy politicians who believe that if they can convince people that they are protecting them or creating a safe environment for them by pushing this mask farce those people will re-elect them.

All politicians pushing this dangerous mask farce should be voted out of office as soon as possible.

Grand Solar Minimum 4 hours ago

Minor correction.

All politicians pushing this dangerous mask farce should be jailed soon as possible.

That's better.

Nature_Boy_Wooooo 13 hours ago

They rushed mask science out faster than the vaccine.

Worse...they debunked actual science done on N95 masks 4 years ago that said masks don't work..... without a single scientific experiment.

They should never have lowered the bar for education.

@Amen 13 hours ago

It's not the masks. USA and most western countries forced their citizens to wear them, most of them do, without visible results. Could it be that drinking green tea and taking zinc really helps? (ZH wrote about it months ago). Everyone can get the virus, mask or no mask, but the difference in consequences is quite startling.

In Deaths per million population, the leader is Belgium, with 1,582 / million, USA is in 12th place, with 958 per million.

In South East Asia:

Japan 22 deaths per million,

Hong Kong 16

South Korea 13

Singapore 5

Vietnam 0.4

Taiwan 0.3

(Data from www.worldometers.info as of today).

Boosting one's immune system from cheap and easy-accessible sources would not make the elite and big corporations rich, nor make the would be dictators in governments and regulatory agencies so powerful, second to God.

So, we keep dying, destroying our economy, and voting for the mass murderers again and again.

Happy 2021!

FightClubPanties 13 hours ago

Whadda bout ChyNa?

@Amen 12 hours ago (Edited)

China has 3 deaths per million, you make the judgement about the accuracy of their reporting. Nevertheless, they drink mostly green tea and eat stuff rich in zinc. And they have undestricted partying for months now, even in Wuhan.

Link to the past ZH article from last august is

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-08-05/hydroxychloroquine-and-coronavirus

and, so far, it works for me here in Canada. Costco supplies green tea (from Japan) and Walmart zinc tablets, about 6 bucks for three months worth of prevention. And I don't plan to take the vaccine, even if its free here.

halcyon 10 hours ago

IMASK+ PROPHYLAXIS PROTOCOL

https://covid19criticalcare.com/i-mask-prophylaxis-treatment-protocol/

Table 6. I-MASK+ Prophylaxis & Early Outpatient Treatment Protocol for COVID-19
PROPHYLAXIS PROTOCOL MEDICATION
lvermectin RECOMMENDED DOSING
Vitamin D3 Vitamin C Quercetin Zinc Melatonin

Works!

Snaffew16 10 hours ago

It's quite obvious that people should be exposing themselves to this predominantly non lethal virus as much as possible. Herd immunity has likely already been achieved here in the US and globally, but there is so much money to be made on these untested, genome altering vaccines that they will not stop the propaganda. The incredible surge in power and control over the populations has also enabled them to up their game in regards to ripping every freedom imaginable from the populace and stepping the bullsh*it up to hyperdrive---

If you have already tested positive, then there is absolutely zero reason to get a vaccine. if you had just recovered from the flu, do you run out and get a flu vaccine? Nope...there is no reason to.

KirkPatrickN 7 hours ago

Even if masks worked for more than the first few minutes, that would mean we'd become dependent on them.

afronaut 13 hours ago

Fvk I've had enough of this ****.

Cobra Commander 12 hours ago

"This tweet is from a suspended account. "

Thanks for nothing, Twitter. I just wanted to see the graph comparing mask wear with positive cases.

Oh, is that too dangerous for me to see?

Cobra!

metaforge 10 hours ago

Wow when even Cobra Commander calls someone evil? They MUST be evil.

Cobra!

louie1 PREMIUM 12 hours ago

If you are at risk then take precautions. Everyone else- get on with life and tell the government to go **** themselves.

Corn Popp 12 hours ago (Edited)

The corporations wont do that. and people have to work. There are not enough jobs outside those businesses. and those businesses are forcing employees to wear face diapers or get fired. It has to be a top down movement against the progenitors and they must be held accountable, otherwise none of the states and business will follow thru to restore individual rights

metaforge 10 hours ago

Only good comment I've seen from a premium tagged Kappo yet.

Tigbits 13 hours ago

Amazing that after nine months they still want to keep beating the mask drum. Exhausting.

Corn Popp 13 hours ago (Edited)

I'm sure you are aware by now that all it ever was is a clear sign of your submission to them. As well as a training tool to get you to accept whatever they push on you...ie..mandatory vaxxing for sterilization, control and culling.....the next step. Well, and to have a good laugh and masturbate to misery and suffering. It's what gets them off

KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago

Read the ZH article on the nurse collapsing and sort by Worst comments.

These people pushing vaccines will literally giggle as you drop dead.

Alan Cruiser 11 hours ago

The conclusion is wrong, if cases are still climbing so much, then apparently the masks don't work because everybody is already wearing them. I am getting so tired of the nonsense.

Taffer 12 hours ago

Liberal God Fauci in April: "Masks don't work! Only healthcare workers need to wear them or even should be wearing them."

Liberal Keebler elf Fauci in May: "Masks work! Everyone should be wearing a mask!"

Seriously, you can't make lies on this level up. The man says this on national tv, calls himself an expert, and the useful idiots lap it up like CNN propaganda.

halcyon 11 hours ago

Fauci co-authored a paper in 2008 that showed that napkin wearing increased prevalence of bacterial pneumonia.

Maybe he just forgot about it...

Patmos 13 hours ago

Psychological warfare techniques from The Cold War to The War on Terror, compared to COVID restrictions:

https://twitter.com/mediamonarchy/status/1327119271047159812

But ignore that, because this is all about safety. [/sarcasm]

FightClubPanties 13 hours ago

go look at the compliance rates for Covid-Burqas. The US is among the very highest compliance.

Oh-Globits 14 hours ago

Wear a face diaper...it's patriotic!

afronaut 13 hours ago

It looks like underwear to me. I'd be too embarrassed to put one on in public. Its dirty and looks retarded

KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago (Edited)

I've never worn one. My (no) mask is to protect YOU (from tyranny).

Mrgior31513 14 hours ago

Masks are simply worse for a blatantly obvious reason: they provide false confidence and therefor breed irresponsible behavior from the perceived sense of safety.

FightClubPanties 14 hours ago

Reusing any mask defeats the claimed purpose. And everybody is wearing filthy pieces of cloth; stuffing in their purses, pants, fingering them on and off.

KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago

Some people hang them on their rear view mirror and I saw one with several shades of lipstick on the inside.

I'd like to see a bacterial analysis of these masks people are wearing, and see them under a black light.

Tom Angle 5 hours ago (Edited)

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

"We did not find evidence that surgical-type face masks are effective in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza transmission, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility ( Figure 2 ). However, as with hand hygiene, face masks might be able to reduce the transmission of other infections and therefore have value in an influenza pandemic when healthcare resources are stretched."

It was known from the beginning. Are you tired of the lies and tyrrany yet? Stand up like men and stop it.

Pater-Mater 7 hours ago

A 2008 study in Turkey showed a significant reduction in oxygen intake or rather carbon monoxide respiration. This directly lowers the immune system making infection much more likely. Do circumvent this oxygen is pumped into operating rooms..

Secondly, in medical practice the mask is changed every twenty minutes and not touched at all. This is now followed.

Lastly, the virus has mutated to a benign form, it is highly likely that everyone has it, thusly the likelihood of any further great event or health crisis is next to none. Aannd, RLF-100 trial will be over soon, it's already proven effective, it's cheap, there are no long term consequences, it will cure nearly all intensive care situations.. the propaganda is obvious.

Cincinnatuus 9 hours ago

The number of cases of the China Flu is inversely proportional with the number of hours of sunlight.

Supplement your Vitamin D (5,000 IU), and when you get it, you won't even know you had it!

KirkPatrickN 7 hours ago

Exactly. Cold symptoms ARE Vitamin D deficiency. Covid victims have proven to be deficient. Staying inside and wearing masks outside only hurt matters (you shameless, shivering RETARDS).

What's the best natural source of, or supplement for Vitamin D?

Obake158 11 hours ago

So I can see the plan from the Globohomos already. They are going to lower the PCR test thresholds from 45 to 20 and claim that the vaccine has substantially lessened the severity and prevalence of Democrat Meme Flu. The cat is out of the bag now regarding the fake testing regimen and people are waking up to the PCR testing amplification thresholds being set way too high thus a massive wave of false positives. My state tests at 45 cycles. Anything over around 20 renders the test useless with so much background noise as to almost ensure everyone testing will be positive for viral RNA. So here is the next leg of their plan, mass inoculate the fearful NPCs and then claim success while quietly manipulating the testing regimen.

metaforge 10 hours ago

My state's "cases" were already dropping fast from the "winter peak" even before the BS vaccine. So that won't fly here, even if they try it.

Dash8 6 hours ago

Masks are for virtue signalling libtards.

The end.

KirkPatrickN 4 hours ago (Edited)

Masks never would have become a thing had we not let all the women become obese parasites. For years the grocery store has been depressing as countless women of every race scramble to buy free things with their EBT cards while hating on wh ite men. These creatures willingly covered their faces because they are embarrassed to be seen.

AVmaster 13 hours ago

"The head of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, has hailed South Korea as demonstrating that containing the virus, while difficult, "can be done.""

Umm... we are way past the phase of containment...

... covid 19 is everywhere in the world...

wtf are you really talking about you idiots...

Fizzy Head 14 hours ago

So what happens when the ICU nurses become the patients? Well now we have a problem...

https://www.activistpost.com/2020/12/nurse-collapses-on-television-minutes-after-receiving-covid-vaccine.html

KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago

It's called flu season.

JuliaS 10 hours ago (Edited)

You could've had a functioning economy and a disease. You chose only the disease. Now the healthy won't be able to help the sick, and will see how long the saved grandma will last after her grandkids commit suicide due to depression, or overdose on drugs.

Thanks for saving the world.

KirkPatrickN 7 hours ago

It's the equivalent of a pilot of a loaded jumbo jet announcing "This is the pilot speaking. Due to my fear of catching sniffles I've decided it's just too dangerous to land. Ever."

Lore 12 hours ago

"Case" doesn't mean beans, because the polymerase chain reaction was never intended for use as a "test." You might as well use a black box electronic device to tally votes in a national election. Oh, wait...

Show us the data for deaths sans co-morbidities and fudge, and then we'll talk. In the meantime, it's just another layer of BS.

asteroids 13 hours ago

One way or another, you WILL get the virus. Resistance is futile. Wake me up when "masks" are as effective as birth control.

metaforge 10 hours ago

Not me bitch. I'm superdosing C, D, Zinc, Echinnacea, etc. That fvcking virus ain't jumping this wall!

pods 7 hours ago

Careful on zinc. Too much is not good.

Magnum 13 hours ago

Twitter suspended The Epigenetic Whisperer now that he's pointed this out.

FightClubPanties 14 hours ago

I have no idea if their reporting isn't fraudulent, any more than the Japanese or chinchongs.

writeround 7 hours ago

The increase d number of of cases is irrelevant unless presented as a percentage of the number of tests. More tests/more cases?

Usuage of masks is usless if missused. Daily use of the same mask/turning mask inside out/close proximity in enclosed places/not washing or sanitsing hands are all transmission methods.

Pater-Mater 7 hours ago

So is reduced oxygen intake, increased carbon monoxide intake and a reduced immune system. Why wouldnt infections increase?

kellys_eye 8 hours ago

... because wearing a mask that doesn't work to prevent an illness that doesn't exist (or at worst has a 99.8% recovery rate i. e. better than the flu/influenza) is all our 'exceptional leadership' can come up with?

The problem isn't the virus - the problem is and always has been the MEDIA.

NIRP-BTFD 8 hours ago

No the problem are corrupt politicians that work for the 0.1% instead of the people. The media of course is owned by the 0.1% so they are an issue as well.

Fireman 9 hours ago

Oxygen Deprivation Therapy ....all that can save US now.

Remember oh tax chattel, as Onkel Adolf said "Hypoxia und Hypercapnia macht frei."

Sieg Heil.......same as it ever was.

Onward to your doom, rag mouths coz the satanists need y'all dead.

hypoxia

[hi-pok´se-ah]

diminished availability of oxygen to the body tissues; its causes are many and varied and includes a deficiency of oxygen in the atmosphere, as in altitude sickness ; pulmonary disorders that interfere with adequate ventilation of the lungs; anemia or circulatory deficiencies, leading to inadequate transport and delivery of oxygen to the tissues; and finally, edema or other abnormal conditions of the tissues themselves that impair the exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide between capillaries and tissues. adj., adj hypox´ic.  

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hypoxia

hypercapnia

(hī′pər-kăp′nē-ə)

n.

1. An abnormally high concentration of carbon dioxide in the blood, usually caused by acute respiratory failure from conditions such as asthma and obstructive pulmonary disease. It can lead to seizures and death if acute and untreated.

2. Carbon dioxide poisoning due to abnormally high concentrations of carbon dioxide in an organism's environment.

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hypercapnia

Take the poll and see how many globally have figured this Psy Op Satanic pedovore bankster cull for what it is.

https://www.worldvaccinepoll.com/

Nona Yobiznes 12 hours ago

It's very obvious masks don't do **** to stop infection. Anyone who still says they do is willfully blind.

you_do 5 hours ago

Hmmm... When looking at the Korea graph, I get the idea that there might be some seasonal influence?

whatisthat 6 hours ago

This post demonstrates how American taxpayers are fools for believing propaganda from the deviant corrupt WHO....

Meritocrat 7 hours ago

Protect your child from indoctrination and brainwashing.

NIRP-BTFD 8 hours ago

Maybe it has something to do with even mask manufacturers have a disclaimer on their surgical/cloth masks stating "does not protect against viruses".

Ledlak 8 hours ago

"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

Fireman 8 hours ago (Edited)

Despite the herd of self-harming, virtue-signalling masked mutton that surrounds you there are indeed millions of aware and decent people around the planet that get it. You are not alone, we are 5%, as much of the population as the ruling psychopaths and sociopaths i.e. the disgusting, Satanic pedovores like Schwab, Gates, STASI "Erika" Merkill, Bozo the clown, banksters, presstitutes and almost all political mutts the sheeple call their "leaders" and the rest of the evil Rothschild enablers.

The docile herd can be turned like a weathervane and will be turned again...that is the beauty of the balance built into nature. Evolution has created a mass of ignorant, pliant human livestock with a purpose. 10% of the naked apes can more or less reason and act upon that reasoning for good or bad...the rest will be turned like sheep and always have been. Look at the history of pedovores running the Catholic Church and yet the peasants flock to these evil bastards on a Sunday to "commune" with God....god help us. Ask yourself the question; would you prefer to live in a world with 90 wolves and ten sheep, or a world with 90 sheep and 10 wolves? As for the evil Klaus "Schwab", the geriatric bastard progeny of NAZI Germany... his NAZI spawners also hallucinated about their wondervoll 1000 Year Reich dystopia and if I recall...they and their anglozionazi backers may have slaughtered millions, but in the end we are still pissing on their NAZI graves.

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Enemy-Money-Can-Buy/dp/1939438233

Take the poll and please spread far and wide.

https://www.worldvaccinepoll.com/

Songalini 9 hours ago

I get where you're going with this article.

Ultimately what I think you're saying is that masks are not the be all and end all to ending the covid pandemic.

And with that I wholeheartedly agree.

But where we differ is on the conclusions from this counter-intuitive fact.

Ultimately what masks do is they reduce the transmission of the virus. I say this from the following observation...

It makes sense logically that masks prevents a lot of transmissions of the covid virus because at the end of the day only sick people can infect others. It has been shown on the Japanese broadcaster NHK that the particles thrown out by a sick person coughing when masked up vs. non-masked is exponentially less. Infra-red cameras show that masks block a lot of particles and thus even if a person is sick, their likelihood of infecting others through spraying particles everywhere around them, is greatly reduced.

And it makes logical sense without overthinking it (a good example of Occam's razor) - if you have some fabric that blocks your coughs, isn't it logical to presume that pretty much all the spit and phlegm that usually accompanis a cough would be blocked by that same fabric? (I mean why else do tissues get wet when u sneeze or cough in them?)

So the effectiveness of masks is in that they prevent a lot of dangerous situations from turning into a transmission event. Its a preventative measure, people! That's the fundamental thing you need to understand!!!!!

Is it gonna prevent every ******* roll of dice from turning into a transmission event? Of course not.

There'll be instances where due to present circumstances a potential infection turns into an actual infection. That is not something we can avoid. Something will always get through the gates - how many times has a seemingly impregnable defence been breached throughout history? I can name the Maginot Line and the Multiple Walls of Constantinople.

The point we all have to understand is that there is no silver bullet to this piece of **** virus. We can't keep arguing about the fundamental fact that masks help prevent transmissions. It prevents but does not eliminate - elimination is impossible. This ****** will eventually, always get through the most carefully laid traps.

We just need to learn that effective prevention means that half the war has already been won.

on't tell me you actually think

deadcat2 8 hours ago

A truly stupid comment. What you should be asking is, When is a case, positive test or an infection an actual illness. Who is supervising the labs which do the tests? Who decides on what the size of the 'amplification should be? Karry Mullis, the world famous scientists and Nobel prize winner who actually invented and designed the PCR test said, amplifications above 30 are useless. Currently, all countries are amplifying above 45 and some even as far as 50. Lets put it this way: if there were no tests there would be no virus numbers. The only numbers that would matter would be hospital admissions. Did you know, that here in the UK a hospital admission is counted even if the patient is discharged the same day !!

The evidence shows that hospital admissions are the same this year (for the UK and the US at least) as they have been on average for the last ten years.

KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago (Edited)

Science is not based on your personal observation of what your female brain considers logical.

It's about a double blind, placebo controlled study to PROVE something.

There is no silver bullet for these piece of **** people pushing lockdowns, masks and vaccines over sniffles based on their innermost feelings.

KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago

Look at the side view of people in masks. There is a direct path to their mouth. Their breath is now pushed sideways (see physics) and probably goes even further (just like whistling is louder than breathing).

Galieo 7 hours ago

+5

Masks help a lot, distance is even better.

Pater-Mater 7 hours ago

You are looking at a single element justifying everything. If people can't be helped to not sneeze on someone it's a bigger issue... Then why aren't only sick people wearing them? What about oxygen deprivations? Increase risk and cases of bacterial infection?(from masks) carcinogens of surgical masks??

Masks are not a solution, there is no science to back this, only the opposite.

MCDirtMigger 6 hours ago

From the CDC website:

In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25)

If you live somewhere cold, put your mask on, go outside and exhale a big breath of air, come back and tell us what you see. Don't be an idiot.

pictur3plane 13 hours ago

The facts haven't changed: unless you are wearing a properly fitted N95 respirator your mask is doing little to protect you or other people. While it is better than no mask as there is the chance it will somewhat reduce to viral inoculum and possibly the severity of infection, it gives people a false sense of security. The media/celebrity mantra of "JUST WEAR THE MASK" gives the impression that is all you have to do to protect yourself. Also, most people are so incredibly stupid. Have you seen people try and drive a car correctly? And you think these people are well versed in how invisible disease is spread? I can't tell you how many times I see people take their mask off unless someone comes in the office. They don't get it. They are morons. It is kind of a miracle only 300,000 people a day are getting infected in this country.

adr 13 hours ago

N95 respirators are not designed for and can not filter virus. Anyone saying so is lying. The literature packed with every real N95 mask even says in the warning that they are designed to filter specific particles and will not protect from biological agents.

The manufacturers aren't going to open themselves to billions in liability lawsuits for making a claim that can not be backed up with evidence and an actual standard.

No mask outside a full on respirator with disposable filters will help you. If you are infected, they are worthless because they only filter incoming air, not exhaled. So you will be contaminating anything you breath on.

Cloth masks will not reduce the severity of an infection, they will make it worse. You will increase the load of any respiratory pathogen as you breath it into the cloth and breathe it back in.

Studies done on surgical masks found that they had no effect on preventing bacterial infections of surgical wounds. The only purpose of a surgical mask is to prevent expelled fluids from open body cavities from entering a surgeon's nose and mouth.

Sorry to break the bad news.

pictur3plane 12 hours ago

There is no such thing as free floating virus particles. They are attached to respiratory droplets which are large enough to be filtered by N95 masks.

The idea that you would somehow increase your viral load by wearing a mask and re-breathing particles back into your lungs is whatever the opposite of known science is.

KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago

While you are at it, why not drink your own urine to help stop the droplets from spreading. And wear a diaper instead of using the rest room. My Depends are to protect YOU.

KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago

N95 masks have a release valve. They don't help others.

pictur3plane 6 hours ago

It really is quite a spectacle to watch complete morons who don't know what they're talking about strut around like hillbilly peacocks in the ZH comment section.

KirkPatrickN 4 hours ago

Dear angry, pudgy woman: please explain how N95 masks (specially designed with a VALVE on the front) "protect others". What study proves they do?

Meanwhile, Surgical masks only work for 15 minutes in a STERILE environment. Hint: your hand and Walmart are not sterile. What study proves masks do any good whatsoever? We know filthy spit wads do lots of harm by cutting off children, oxygen and humanity.

KirkPatrickN 4 hours ago

I've had a box of 3M N95 masks since 2014 (back when they had an Asian guy on the box - how you say Kung Fru?). Never wore one because it says right on the side of the box "DOES NOT PREVENT COVID OR FLU".

pictur3plane 3 hours ago

A box of masks for 2014 says "DOES NOT PREVENT COVID", huh?

Go back to your NASCAR videos.

KirkPatrickN 4 hours ago

Describe how any study could possibly prove that "masks help others". Fat girls made that up after donning them willingly to cover their fugly faces. Then they wanted the pretty girls to do the same thing. Now: equality!

FightClubPanties 14 hours ago

A couple of thousand cases among 30 plus million. give me a break. And we don't even know what their cycle threshold is if using the PCR test.

Delusion Spotter 3 hours ago (Edited)

Not Wearing Masks = today's Freedom Fries!

Think the more important issue is Lockdowns, which destroy businesses, livelihoods, and the Economy.

Definately need legislation that would impose prison on any politician that proposes Lockdowns for any reason in the future (Is immediate public Burning at a Stake after due process / legal trial too extreme??)).

NumbNuts 10 hours ago

Masks don't beat phony test results.

trada101 11 hours ago (Edited)

Why do people have such short memories??? There is nothing surprising about the winter surge. How many dumbasses are out there? People have been warning about the winter surge since the summer.

Since you idiots don't seem to understand why, it's precisely BECAUSE

1. People spend more time with each other indoors during colder months leading to increases viral load.

2. People also spend more time indoors for get togethers with friends ad family and not wear masks.

metaforge 11 hours ago

#1 right

#2 half right

and not wear masks

You apparently missed the whole point of this article: masks don't work .

Cincinnatuus 9 hours ago

3. People don't get enough vitamin D in the winter. Supplementing with 5K UI of D will fend off any virus...

KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago

Cold symptoms ARE Vitamin D deficiency symptoms. There is no vaccine for a vitamin deficiency. We still have to eat a healthy diet.

Solio 11 hours ago

Relying on the bs that we have been fed for 75 years makes the garden fertile for total idiocy.

Amel 14 hours ago (Edited)

My experience is transmission is primarily occurring in high traffic indoor spaces.

I wore a 3M industrial grade respirator inside a bulk food store last week stocking up for the apocalypse and within hours my eyes were feeling infected, again. Being my second exposure to covid, I know how my symptoms manifest. It did not get into my lungs because I used a respirator, not a mask. I treated myself with a sinus rinse 10 drops betadine (Iodine) per 1 cup water as per my ENT's direction for ANY sinus infection that night. The next 24 hours were pretty rough but after that I was fine,

If you have to line up to get inside a building in a dense urban area, use a respirator and goggles inside. Masks are a joke, respirators work. Ebay has lots of respirators for sale, they are hard to find locally.

FightClubPanties 13 hours ago

And those respirators, i.e. N95 cannot be reused.

adr 13 hours ago

Sure buddy. You might want to pull Fauchi's rod out of your mouth.

If the virus was floating in the air, everyone on Earth would have been infected 100 times over by June.

Stranded Observer 13 hours ago

Great story. You are a lucky man to have cheated death like that. It must have been terrifying

KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago

You're "stocking up for the apocalypse" that people like YOU created by trembling in fear for 10 months and counting over sniffles?

"It did not get into my lungs because I used a respirator, not a mask. "

Are you sure it's not because you weren't wearing panties that day, because of your GRINDR date?

skizex 14 hours ago (Edited)

NMD Colleen Huber study of studies:

https://www.primarydoctor.org/masks-not-effect ive or safe

-OMG - DeBlasio clip on FOX (sound off because of those gdamned "you can catch covid ...here'" PSAs))

urging faith leaders to push the vax! 'Spread the word!" J.C.!

Overpowered By Funk 14 hours ago

Why don't we just do what the Chinese did? It seems to have worked. Whatever it was they did.

Crush the cube 14 hours ago

Pointed an accusatory finger at the weapon wielder and threatened to expose.

Mrgior31513 14 hours ago

Make tests read negative most likely.

JuliaS 13 hours ago

Chinese men in biosuits sprayed mystery syrup everywhere and then they were confident the virus was gone. Safe to assume that if the lab worked on the virus, they also knew what the antidote was.

waterwell 1 hour ago

Why is it that the entire continent of Africa appears to have been able to avoid the high rates of cases and deaths caused by the Covid-19 virus.

Totin 3 hours ago

Why is it that with all the Brown Shirt enforcement in Kalifornia that they are suffering the worst?

somedude 3 hours ago (Edited)

Maybe the Chinese put something in those made in China masks.

Americans buying masks from the Chinese is like **** buying masks from the Nazi.

RIGHTPOWER 3 hours ago

as long as housing prices keep crashing all is well

thimbus_xyz 4 hours ago (Edited)

So let me make sure I understand this correctly.....

South Korea, a country with over 5x the population density of the US , has 1,100 new cases per day (or .002% of population ).

The US has 280,000 new cases (or .085% of population ), that's 43x the rate of South Koriea

And the conclusion of this idiot is masks don't work.....hmm interesting. I see the republican strategy of dumbing down our education is getting the desired results.

Still, these cases being recorded now are only a sliver of those detected daily in the U.S. and Europe. There, daily new case counts of COVID-19 are still in the tens of thousands... so keep wearing your masks!!!

🔥 🔥 🔥!!!!

Uh no, in the US we count new cases in the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.

USA USA USA BITCHES.

SweetDoug 3 hours ago

'

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You just watch the spread/infection rate increase. Learn a bit aboutr infection spreads. Think oil on water and the increasing size of the diameter/area.

Give it a few months...

Everyone is gonna get this, sooner or later schmuck.

You stay in your basement.

OJO
V-V

thimbus_xyz 3 hours ago

That's a lot of words to say nothing.

What exactly did I get incorrect? That would be nothing. Facts is tough that way. LOL.

Goldbugger 4 hours ago

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/12/17/pandemic-wealth-inequality.aspx?ui=19ac65ba714eca3fb361a42233b18ddba12e5c42f1ee5279b189266b75264633&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20201217&mid=DM749867&rid=1036683911

" The disproportionately higher rates of COVID deaths among American Indians and Alaska Natives, 7 for example, are due to higher rates of obesity, diabetes, asthma and heart disease than among more privileged U.S. communities."

Research 8 suggests even mild obesity can influence COVID-19 severity, raising the risk of respiratory failure by 2.5 times and the risk of needing intensive care by nearly five times. Inflammation triggered by obesity is also thought to be responsible for the threefold greater risk of pulmonary embolism (blood clots in the lungs) seen in obese COVID-19 patients. 9,10

Certain groups -- particularly the elderly and those with darker skin -- are also far more prone to the illness due to the fact that they're also at highest risk for vitamin D deficiency .

Zerohair PREMIUM 4 hours ago

It's been said before, Dumbo's feather.

Grand Solar Minimum 4 hours ago

http://nomask.info

StephenHopkins 4 hours ago

It's a Chinese bioweapon. Military tribunals and GITMO for TRAITORS.

Alice-the-dog 6 hours ago

As if there was a test for COVID that was remotely reliable. Both exhibit an abundance of false positives. THE CASES THE CASES THE CASES, and deaths for that matter, are adjustable to fit the needs of any tyrant that has any control over the number of tests administered. Need more control of your subjects? More tests, more cases, more deaths. Want to make your vaxx look good, or the unelected POTUS look good? Reduce testing, fewer cases and deaths.

flat earth guy 6 hours ago

Viruses are not alive, they are not contagious. Its a detox of the body.

Masks are stupid to use for viruses.

Terrain theory was allways right germ theory is wrong

TRM 7 hours ago

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Justus_Americans 8 hours ago

Taking A Stand Against the Stand 2020 Whoopi and King can kiss my Trump voting a** Not Viewing View
https://youtu.be/_Mxa3bCprWc

xious 10 hours ago

If we see Weird Things the Next Years, the Scary Technologies Shown here may Explain them – Henrik. (bitchute.com)

I don't even know of I believe this.

nanook007 11 hours ago

This is what happens when african monkeys are put in charge of anything.........failure !

KirkPatrickN 7 hours ago

Don't talk about monkeys that way!

Monkeys don't require $8800 per year on average in welfare to survive in the US.

halcyon 11 hours ago

R€TARDS! Stop looking at case counts, they mean nothing.

Number of positive tests in SK is still not on the level of wave1 and has started to shrink. So much for horrible wave3, even by their own statistics.

http://i.imgur.com/HRJbphc.jpg

metaforge 10 hours ago

Yup, the Thanksgiving Superspreader Doom was a nothing burger, just like the Trump rally superspreader doom. They are LIARS! And the ones at the top... traitors.

Slapper 11 hours ago remove link

In WW1 and WW2 the same people marched you off to a war...

Nona Yobiznes 12 hours ago (Edited)

Argentina has worn masks since April or even March. Their cases didn't stop rising. In fact they rose exponentially until a few weeks ago, which coincided with late spring for them. Seasonality overrides all other factors.

KirkPatrickN 8 hours ago

Obesity doubles Covid risks. Should we mandate diets? I know it's inconvenient, but suck it up, people. It's to save lives.

[Dec 06, 2020] Tested 'Positive' For COVID-19- Be Sure To Ask This Question

Highly recommended!
Dec 06, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

The lockdowns are based on surging "cases" which are based on positive PCR test results.

However, what exactly is a positive PCR test result? What does it mean? As Dr. Tommy Megremis summarized recently :

If you are generally aware, the PCR test is used to amplify small amount of genetic material so as to recognize patterns of DNA by "cycling." (Also, for RNA virus, the RNA is converted to DNA in order to be detected, it's just the way the test works) This is how we have been able to recognize the genomes in Egyptian mummies and Wooly Mammoths. It works because if you amplify and cycle enough times to "grow" legitimate DNA fragments, you get something with with a fair amount of specificity. W hat is becoming more and more apparent is that the PCR test was not designed as a diagnostic tool for infection, and really cannot function as one without having a huge amount of false positives, period.

When it comes to COVID, the presence of viral particles picked up by the PCR technique does not and has not been quantitatively linked to an active "symptomatic" infection. It simply cannot be so, because infection threshold as a result of viral load is different for each patient. It turns out, if you "cycle" over around 25 times, the false positivity of COVID infection starts getting very high.

I and others have explained in blogs how people can be exposed to virus, and mount a simple innate immune response and never know any differently. When you test these people with very low viral loads, who are not sick, you can find the viral RNA code that is used to "diagnose" if you cycle enough times. The last I read, Labcorp cycles at least 40 times to detect viral genome fragments. The PCR test was never intended for diagnosis of infection but as a qualitative test for presence of parts of a virus genome. I know there has been some confusion circulating the net about what the inventor Kary Mullis had said about that. But we walk daily with people who have any number of parts of killer virus or bacterial genomes which one could pick up with a PCR test if one had the specific test for it. Would we claim that that individual was an infected patient? No!

So given all that, PeakProsperity's Chris Martenson explains below , in great details, the answer to the most important question you should ask if you or a loved one gets a positive PCR test result .

"What's the Cycle Threshold (CT) value for that test?"

Sounds wonky but it's actually really important to understand. A low CT value means someone is loaded with virus. A high value, oppositely, means less of a viral load.

Beyond a certain level the load is insufficient to either infect someone else or be of any clinical or epidemiological relevance whatsoever.

The problem? Governments all over the country and world are basing their decisions on CT values that are very high. Too high.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/eWqNl4UUlH0

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=890

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Links:

WHO PCR 47 (!) Cycles

https://www.who.int/diagnostics_laboratory/eul_0489_185_00_path_covid19_ce_ivd_ifu_issue_2.0.pdf?ua=1

CT over 35 is non-infectious

https://www.infectiousdiseaseadvisor.com/home/topics/covid19/ct-value-may-inform-when-patients-with-covid-19-can-be-safely-discharged/

Cycle Thresholds Too Damn High

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

Corman Drosten retraction request

https://cormandrostenreview.com/report/

Bad Testing Video Sept 1

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UK PCR positive standards

https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2020/03/guidance-and-sop-covid-19-virus-testing-in-nhs-laboratories-v1.pdf

Kansas CT cutoff of 42

https://www.coronavirus.kdheks.gov/DocumentCenter/View/1505/SARS-CoV-2-COVID-19-PCR-Ct-Cutoff-Values-PDF -- 10-5-20


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6 hours ago remove link

Jon Rappoport (excellent blog) nails it in some of his recent posts.

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"July 16, 2020, podcast, 'This Week in Virology': Tony Fauci makes a point of saying the PCR Covid test is useless and misleading when the test is run at '35 cycles or higher.' A positive result, indicating infection, cannot be accepted or believed.

"Here, in techno-speak, is an excerpt from Fauci's key quote: ' If you get [perform the test at] a cycle threshold of 35 or more the chances of it being replication-competent [aka accurate] are miniscule you almost never can culture virus [detect a true positive result] from a 37 threshold cycle even 36 '

"Too many cycles, and the test will turn up all sorts of irrelevant material that will be wrongly interpreted as relevant.

"That's called a false positive.

"What Fauci failed to say on the video is: the FDA, which authorizes the test for public use, recommends the test should be run up to 40 cycles. Not 35.

"Therefore, all labs in the US that follow the FDA guideline are knowingly or unknowingly participating in fraud. Fraud on a monstrous level, because millions of Americans are being told they are infected with the virus on the basis of a false positive result, and

"The total number of Covid cases in America -- which is based on the test -- is a gross falsity.

"The lockdowns and other restraining measures are based on these fraudulent case numbers.

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GenuineAmerican 3 hours ago

Fauci has lied again the PCR maximum cycle for a accurate test results is 25 NOT 35. PCR is run, or should be run at 21-25 cycles everything else will give a false positive. Had a friend in Scottsdale MAYO. I had to go to this god-forsaken place to get him out. They were running the PCR at 42 cycles to keep him in the hospital because he had very, very good UNION insurance!! The health industries are all crooks, lying to people to get more money being paid to the orgainizations by the feds.

BaNNeD oN THe RuN 7 hours ago

IQ tests were always seriously flawed, just like the PCR test

https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39

It does not measure creative or lateral thinking ability at all.

I had scores that put me in the top 0.5% but I had no illusion that made me anything more than a good test taker.

NatsarimAmericanoLion 6 hours ago

Giorgio Palmas 21 hours ago

U.S TOTAL DEATHS
2015: 2,602,000
2016: 2,744,248
2017: 2,649,000
2018: 2,839,205
2019: 2,909,000
According to usalivestats(dot)com, there are 2,486,700 so far this year. There could be a lag in reports, but I doubt enough to fulfill their doomsday claims. The CDC still admits only 6% of these "COVID" are without 2 or more comorbidities, so that's about 25,000 or so. This is a mild flu season. Here are the recent flu numbers:
FLU DEATHS 2010's
2010: 36,656
2011: 12,447
2012: 42,570
2013: 37,930
2014: 51,376
2015: 22,705
2016: 38,230
2017: 61,099
2018: 34,157

choctaw charley 5 hours ago remove link

so what's the purpose behind the bogus plandemic. In order to institute a one world plantation several things have to happen. Foremost is the sense of "nationhood". a nation can be thought of as modeled on the family unit. We look similar, we share religious beliefs, economic and political views and we have a common history which we take pride in. We trust rely on and help another. If you have half a brain you don't need me to describe how all these are under attack. So how does the plandemic play into this? Yesterday you neighbor was your neighbor. Today he is behind a mask because the government tells you that he is a threat to you and your family and you to his! The plandemic was used to to hugely expand the mail-in ballot fraud further driving in the wedge suspicion. Then there is this: when you get your covid test there will be a permanent file created with your name on it. It will contain your genetic code and the test result. this will become the social register that is all over Europe. Get a traffic ticket; late in making a payment; engage in disapproved political activity as I am doing at this moment? All these will find their way into your file and will in the future determine the rate you pay on your home mortgage whether you can be employed in a government job, what you have to endure to board a commercial aircraft etc. There is also a great likelihood that contained in the vaccine will be a tracking component. Consider also population segment most vulnerable to covid: older retired people drawing on an already bankrupt social security ponzi scheme. Hitler referred to these as "Useless Eaters". He had a system in place to rid society of these. Later these faciliries were expanded to include the Jewish population.

flyonmywall 9 hours ago

I've done lots of PCR in my life. If you have to do over 35 cycles to detect or amplify something, you're probably barking up the wrong tree or there is something wrong with your assay.

Once you ramp up the cycles to past 35-40 cycles, you're just amplifying non-specific competing amplification products, of which there are always some.

You could have the best designed primers in the world, there is always some random **** that happens to get amplified at high cycle counts.

Zero-Hegemon 4 hours ago

False positives are beneficial for obtaining COVID money and creating hysteria.

KimAsa 9 hours ago (Edited)

these psychopaths have redesignated the normal course of annual deaths from heart disease, and other common ailments that old people die from, to Covid 19, to create the illusion of a deadly pandemic. they claim to have isolated this virus out of one side of their mouth, out the the other side they claim it has mutated (how many times?) so can't produce proof that this virus even exists. and out of their ******* they claim to have developed a vaccine?

this is and always has been about the vaccinating the public for free moral agency prevention.

Ride_the_kali_yuga 9 hours ago

Covid "tests" are an efficient way to feed the false pandemic narrative with nonsensical numbers of "contaminations". Masks are a mark of submission.

africoman 9 hours ago

Re-posting someone's comment from this article Here

by John Wear, (retired) lawyer, accountant, and author.

Excellent points, now let's threw a monkey wrench in it to the Operation Warp Speed play_arrow

Schooey 6 hours ago

Its all BS

KimAsa 9 hours ago (Edited)

these psychopaths have redesignated the normal course of annual deaths from heart disease, and other common ailments that old people die from, to Covid 19, to create the illusion of a deadly pandemic. they claim to have isolated this virus out of one side of their mouth, out the the other side they claim it has mutated (how many times?) so can't produce proof that this virus even exists. and out of their ******* they claim to have developed a vaccine?

this is and always has been about the vaccinating the public for free moral agency prevention.

Ms No 8 hours ago

They actually murdered people with the lockdown too though. Knowingly and premeditated...certainly some of those were also declared covid.

smacker 8 hours ago

" this is and always has been about the vaccinating the public "

Correct.

That has become clear. What we are only now slowing learning is what the sinister motive is.

kellys_eye 9 hours ago

Is the test for Covid or Covid-19. Can it tell the difference? The 'normal' flu and influenza are both corona viruses and this is the 'high season' for such cases in the Northern hemisphere.

Strangely (or not) the incidence of actual flu and influenza are suspiciously MUCH lower than they should be.

Ergo - tests that prove 'positive' for Covid are likely either false OR reporting on the flu/influenza.

The LIES keep mounting and mounting.

Harry Tools 5 hours ago

there is no pandemic

RedNeckMother 3 hours ago

I will add another: FDA: 40 recommendation for testing

And let's not forget the comments by Fauci that if they're testing at 35 they're going to get a lot of false positives.

There's an attorney in Ohio who has filed a FOI to obtain all the ct levels used by the labs testing in Ohio. It will be very interesting once that is revealed - I'm sure our governor already knows the answer. If I recall, the NYT itself did an article on this very topic awhile back and estimated that 90% of the positive results in CT and NY were bogus. And going from 40 to 35 I believe reduces positives by 63%.

We're being played.

MoreFreedom 5 hours ago remove link

Dr. Martenson's videos are very good. He's clear.

As for "the science" and scientists, we all make mistakes. If we didn't make mistakes, we wouldn't have scientists pointing out other scientist's mistakes. But it's not a question of whose science is correct, it's that science is no excuse for taking away peoples' liberty.

SRV 7 hours ago

The inventor of the test (Dr Kary Mullis) was very outspoken that it was NOT developed for human virus confirmation...he died of cancer just weeks before the first Covid cases (hmmmm).
The test procedure was developed as a screening tool in lab research, and he won a Nobel Prize for it!

It's in your face proof of the scam we're all being subjected to that almost no one ever questioned (brilliant move really)... ONE cycle above 35 (each cycle doubles the amplification) will explode the the false positives.

And... if you have no symptoms you DO NOT have the virus (remember how much play the "asymptomatic" BS story got early on... another psyop). Notice how none of the athletes never get sick and are back in two weeks... yet it's never questioned by a soul paid to look the other way!

smacker 9 hours ago

" What is becoming more and more apparent is that the PCR test was not designed
as a diagnostic tool for infection, and really cannot function as one without having
a huge amount of false positives, period. "

This is not knew and didn't need to become "more and more apparent".

The inventor of the PCR test Kary Mullis is on video record stating it. Sadly his expert
knowledge has been wilfully ignored by the political elites and countless talking heads
and "experts" because it doesn't suit them and didn't fit their agenda.

It's time to prepare the gallows and stock up with rope.

smacker 7 hours ago remove link

The PCR test is used precisely because it can be manipulated to produce as many "cases" as wanted.

Just turn the dial up on "amplification cycles" and hey presto, you get as many positives as you want.

The cases are not genuine cases but simply PCR positive tests, but are reported as "cases" and then
"infections" by MSM who are "In On It".

The idea is "FEAR Management" which allows draconian CovID rules like lockdowns and tiers and
social distancing to be introduced which accustoms people to being managed and controlled.

It then ramps up demand for vaccines which is the ultimate objective. Initially (or soon after), the
vaccines will contain nano-technology - dust-chips - which will be used for surveillance and control.
Some say they will also contain ingredients to render people infertile (ie population control).

We are seeing in plain sight the biggest coup ever against mankind.

It must be stopped.

smacker 7 hours ago remove link

The PCR test is used precisely because it can be manipulated to produce as many "cases" as wanted.

Just turn the dial up on "amplification cycles" and hey presto, you get as many positives as you want.

The cases are not genuine cases but simply PCR positive tests, but are reported as "cases" and then
"infections" by MSM who are "In On It".

The idea is "FEAR Management" which allows draconian CovID rules like lockdowns and tiers and
social distancing to be introduced which accustoms people to being managed and controlled.

It then ramps up demand for vaccines which is the ultimate objective. Initially (or soon after), the
vaccines will contain nano-technology - dust-chips - which will be used for surveillance and control.
Some say they will also contain ingredients to render people infertile (ie population control).

We are seeing in plain sight the biggest coup ever against mankind.

It must be stopped.


4 hours ago

[Dec 02, 2020] Saagar and Ryan- CUOMO Nominated For Time Person Of The Year

Cuomo already wrote a book about how he conquered coronavirus ;-)
Fauci and Quomo. Nice. Andrew Cuomo cut Medicaid in New York during a pandemic
Dec 02, 2020 | www.youtube.com


Our Lady
, 2 days ago

Fake news and fake awards.


John Tucker
, 2 days ago

Cuomo cut funding to Hospitals during first wave

Jan Fogle , 2 days ago

considering cuomo was responsible for spreading the virus exponentially in the early days, he probably has had more influence on all of our lives than the others


Pookie Wookie
, 2 days ago

Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize and dropped more bombs than any other President in history and took us from 3 to 7 wars.

Zeljko Dakic , 53 minutes ago

Story about Fauci, at least at the time was that it was so hospitals wouldn't be liable for deaths among medical staff. But I think it was completely bad what both Cuomo and Fauci


Kathleen McCormick
, 1 day ago

Fauci is complicit and not to be trusted. He's worse than Cuomo.

FryeKitFox , 2 days ago

Time is inconsequential. Neoliberal rag.

Techloid Tech , 2 days ago (edited)

Still can't believe people defend Fauci. Then again people defend Obama and Bush...


John Sutherland
, 18 hours ago

Dr. Fauci was the trusted expert who intentionally lied to the American people and made things far worse. Cuomo is directly responsible for why New York's response to the virus was so bad and cost many lives. Bullshit award.


airmark02
, 2 days ago

Fake Media Fake Heros Fake Awards

[Nov 23, 2020] There is evidence that asymptomatic transmission DOES NOT occur:

Nov 23, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Vasco da Gama , Nov 22 2020 22:51 utc | 58

There is evidence that asymptomatic transmission DOES NOT occur :

Post-lockdown SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid screening in nearly ten million residents of Wuhan, China

Stringent COVID-19 control measures were imposed in Wuhan between January 23 and April 8, 2020. Estimates of the prevalence of infection following the release of restrictions could inform post-lockdown pandemic management. Here, we describe a city-wide SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid screening programme between May 14 and June 1, 2020 in Wuhan. All city residents aged six years or older were eligible and 9,899,828 (92.9%) participated. No new symptomatic cases and 300 asymptomatic cases (detection rate 0.303/10,000, 95% CI 0.270–0.339/10,000) were identified. There were no positive tests amongst 1,174 close contacts of asymptomatic cases. 107 of 34,424 previously recovered COVID-19 patients tested positive again (re-positive rate 0.31%, 95% CI 0.423–0.574%). The prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 infection in Wuhan was therefore very low five to eight weeks after the end of lockdown.
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This study comes supporting early (June 2020) official statements by WHO where:

We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing. They're following asymptomatic cases, they're following contacts and they're not finding secondary transmission onward. It's very rare and much of that is not published in the literature. From the papers that are published there's one that came out from Singapore looking at a long-term care facility. There are some household transmission studies where you follow individuals over time and you look at the proportion of those that transmit onwards.We are constantly looking at this data and we're trying to get more information from countries to truly answer this question. It still appears to be rare that an asymptomatic individual actually transmits onward.
( my emphasis ) COVID-19 daily press briefing 08 June 2020 (~33m24) - transcript

There existing or not "asymptomatic transmission" is a key piece of information because there lies the fundamental justification for isolation measures imposed on asymptomatic individuals with positive rtPCR test results. Further, without asymptomatic transmission, general confinements can not be scientifically justified for the purposes of slowing down/flattening the curve as has been claimed .

This recenters the pandemic response where it should be all along: properly diagnosed cases.

It is very curious that no later than 24 hours, WHO, was backtracking on the original statements , letting us know that models [as opposed to actual epidemiological studies] suggest otherwise but since they were models they were not mentioned. I'll chalk that up as excess zeal at best.

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The supplementary material the study published in Nature was also revealing in terms of the rtPCR testing protocol, which employed, following Chinese National Guidelines, Ct values of ~35/34 (ORF and N genes respectively) on average. This arcs back to the question that has been haunting us, why are these tests being threshold at such high Ct values. In the Chinese case there appears to be an explanation. As the very title of the study mentions, these are tests made for screening purposes not diagnostic .

The following is very enlightening, contrast the following case definitions:

The European Case definition for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), as of 29 May 2020

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Diagnostic imaging criteria

Radiological evidence showing lesions compatible with COVID-19

Laboratory criteria

Detection of SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid in a clinical specimen [2] [rtPCR test]

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Case classification


  1. Possible case: Any person meeting the clinical criteria
  2. Probable case:
    Any person meeting the clinical criteria with an epidemiological link
    OR
    Any person meeting the diagnostic criteria
  3. Confirmed case: Any person meeting the laboratory criteria [see above]


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The Chinese Diagnosis and definition of confirmed cases with COVID-19

Mild case The clinical symptoms are mild and no pneumonia manifestations can be found in imaging .

Moderate case
Patients have symptoms such as fever and respiratory tract symptoms etc., and pneumonia manifestations can be seen in imaging .

Severe case
Patients who meet any of the following criteria: dyspnea or respiratory rate ≥30 breaths/min; oxygen saturation ≤93% at a rest state; arterial partial pressure of oxygen (PaO2)/oxygen concentration (FiO2) ≤300 mmHg. Patients with >50% lesions progression within 24 to 48 hours in lung imaging should be treated as severe cases.

Critical case
Patients who meet any of the following criteria: occurrence of respiratory failure requiring mechanical ventilation; presence of shock; other organ failure that requires monitoring and treatment in the Intensive Care Unit.[at this severity they apparently dispense with imaging]

Clinically-diagnosed cases
The clinically-diagnosed cases were only allowed for the cases in the Hubei Province for the period of February 9 to 19 based on the 5th edition of the Scheme released by the National Health Commission of China released on February 8 and abolished on February 19. A presumptive case was defined as meeting the following criteria: (1) recent travel history to Wuhan City or Hubei Province; or close contact with a confirmed or probable case; or cluster transmission; (2) fever and/or respiratory symptoms; (3) laboratory evidence of normal or decreased number of leukocytes and/or lymphopenia. Those presumptive cases with further radiographic evidence showing pneumonia but without a positive RT-PCR test result were defined as clinically-diagnosed cases .


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The take away: The Chinese rely on radiological imaging to confirm COVID-19 cases NOT on rtPCR tests which they limit for screening purposes, as opposed to the European which use radiological imaging to define a probable case and rtPCR testing to confirm. The Chinese rely on a tried and tested method for confirming diagnostic and the European rely fallible method generaly used for screening to confirm diagnostic .

This is absolutely absurd!

[Nov 18, 2020] This whole coronavirus thingy is becoming ridiculous. I don't think it's a complete fake but what we relly have is a new coronavirus which is slightly more dangerous than the flu, which kills practically only very old people with comorbidities

Nov 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Micron , Nov 17 2020 11:47 utc | 102

This whole coronavirus thingy is becoming ridiculous. I don't think it's a complete fake ; yes, there is coronavirus named COVID-19, yes it is highly contagious, yes it's a health hazard.

But to sum it up, we have here a new coronavirus which is slightly more dangerous than the flu, which kills practically only very old people with comorbidities, with 99,98% chances (ok, 99,95% if you like) of surviving it. given these odds, I'll pass on the vaccine, thank you.

From the beginning, the whole treatment of this thing stank to high heaven. I'm sorry, but the only meaningful explanation I can give is this one : big pharma and its various shills (politicians or doctors) recognized the opportunity such a virus would mean ; they then set out to systematically downplay or kill any possibility of cheap and effective treatments, and cleverly directed the firehose of dollars which was poured onto the laboratories developing a vaccine.

Some facts :
- in France, we had two large-scale studies, Discovery and Hycovid, which were started (very reluctantly) and were pratically forced to include HCQ+AZ in their panel.
- In the weekend following publication of the fraudulent Lancet newspaper, our health minister ordered a full stop.
- Since then, months have gone by; NOT ONE JOURNALIST has either 1) investigated who were the accomplices of the Lancet fraud 2) questioned why all national and international authorities reacted in lockstep 3) and most importantly WHY THE DECISIONS TO STOP THE STUDIES WERE NOT REVERSED following the Lancet's retractation.
-In October, we learn that the EU Commission gave a cool 1 billion to buy remdesivir. ONE WEEK before the WHO study concluding on the ineffectiviness of remdesivir came out.

I'm sorry, but this is becoming a little too much. One coincidence OK, but here we are talking about a string of improbable events, with NO ONE analyzing with a cool head what happened or reversing decisions that were taken based on obvious frauds.

Three weeks ago, our president solemnly declared that our OR would be saturated in mid-November with 9000 people under respiratory assistance, no matter what we do. Well here were are, and the tally is 4.800. Not a good situation, but still only half ; and with nobody pointing out that every winter, our OR are saturated anyway due to the flu and the influenza.

I think we should all grow up and do a more level-headed analysis of the pros and cons. The most ridiculous thing perhaps is to see all those politicos sanctimoniously declare the sanctity of life ; in a world where you can abort babies at your convenience, practices eugenics, and where euthanasy is aggressively pushed into the mainstream, this is perhaps the most hypocritical bullshit I have ever heard.


DG , Nov 17 2020 12:15 utc | 104

Fauci was promoting AZT as a safe cure for AIDS in the 90's. AZT was killing people. I lost many dear friends from AZT.

Fauci is a fraud.

Avid Lurker , Nov 17 2020 13:53 utc | 109

@ dave at 115:

False Positive Covid Tests Will Extend Unjustified Lockdowns, Fauci Admits 'Miniscule' Accuracy

gm , Nov 17 2020 14:44 utc | 116

@Posted by: Avid Lurker | Nov 17 2020 13:53 utc | 117

Meh...Fauci is a political creature who has talked on both sides of his mouth on many $ubject$, and goes with the (money)flow as long as he can get away with it without reducing his credibility too much.

I wonder if Fauci is *still* singing the praises of Gilead's remdesivir, that $3K per treatment apparent snake oil, according to critics:

Dr. Eric Topol, vice president for research at Scripps Research sez:

https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1319395937018470400?lang=en

and this,

and this:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/remdesivir-and-interferon-fall-flat-who-s-megastudy-covid-19-treatments

Nevertheless the $3K per shot remdesivir just got *full* FDA approval, no doubt thanks in large part to High Priest Fauci's blessings and hosannas.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/22/fda-approves-remdesivir-coronavirus-431336

Hausmeister , Nov 17 2020 15:06 utc | 119

Most likely a game changer:
Portugiese court rule against PCR-test
Sorry, guys, this is a link to one of the best real-left Corona blogs, but in German language. In Portugal a court decided that a PCR-test cannot be accepted as a proof of a viral infection. Now think about its consequences!

[Nov 17, 2020] The Great Revenge - How Tony Fauci F-cked Donald Trump

Notable quotes:
"... Washington Post ..."
Nov 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

The Great Revenge - How Tony Fauci F*cked Donald Trump Liberty Blogger , Nov 16 2020 20:12 utc | 2

In January 2017 the CIA claimed that Russia had kompromat on Trump. Trump shot back at the CIA. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer then warned the incoming president:

"You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday to get back at you," Schumer, a New York Democrat, told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. "So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this."

As the years after the warning passed by it proved to have been valid. The CIA 'whistle blowers' put a great effort into sabotaging Trump's presidency. But they were largely unsuccessful.

The CIA failed to sabotaged Trump's reelection. It was health community, including parts of Trump's administration, which did that.

Trump had especially angered Dr. Fauci, the well known infectious-disease expert and member of the government's coronavirus taskforce. Fauci's advise had been ignored and efforts were made to hold him back from making public pronouncements.

On November 1, two days before the election, Fauci gave a widely distributed interview to the Washington Post :

President Trump's repeated assertions the United States is "rounding the turn" on the novel coronavirus have increasingly alarmed the government's top health experts, who say the country is heading into a long and potentially deadly winter with an unprepared government unwilling to make tough choices.

"We're in for a whole lot of hurt. It's not a good situation," Anthony S. Fauci, the country's leading infectious-disease expert, said in a wide-ranging interview late Friday. "All the stars are aligned in the wrong place as you go into the fall and winter season, with people congregating at home indoors. You could not possibly be positioned more poorly."

Fauci's interview was not the first intervention he made. In October two leading vaccine companies were ready to announce the success of their vaccine trials. But with at least the knowledge of Fauci and the Federal Drug Administration both companies deviated from their clinical protocols to intentionally move their success announcement to a date after the election.

During the summer Trump had been hopeful that a vaccine against the Covid-19 disease could be announced before the election. It would have been proof that his strategy to (not) fight the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic had at least one success. The announcement of a vaccine was part of President Trump's planned 'October surprises' to win the election.

Trump's summer hope that a vaccine success could be announced during October was not unreasonable. Two important vaccines candidate, one from Pfizer with BioNTech and one from Moderna, had been successful tested in their first phases and were ready launch their large phase 3 trials.

In a phase 3 vaccine trial several ten thousand people are put into two groups. The people in one group receive the vaccine, the people in the other one a placebo. One then has to wait and see how many people will get the disease. At certain points a statistical team will look at those cases and check how many occurred in each group. The differences of the number of people in each group who catch the disease is a scale for the vaccines efficacy. For a known group size one can estimate in advance after how many disease cases determinations should be made to show statistical significance.

Pfizer had published its clinical protocol for the phase 3 trial which foresaw four points of interim analyses (IA) during which it would become clear how well the vaccine was working:

During Phase 2/3, 4 IAs are planned and will be performed by an unblinded statistical team after accrual of 32, 62, 92, and 120 cases. At each IA:
  • [Vaccine efficacy] for the first primary objective will be evaluated. Overwhelming efficacy will be declared if the first primary study objective is met. The criteria for success at an interim analysis are based on the posterior probability (ie,P[VE >30%|data]) at the current number of cases. Overwhelming efficacy will be declared if the posterior probability is higher than the success threshold. The success threshold for each interim analysis will be calibrated to protect overall type I error at 2.5%. Additional details about the success threshold or boundary calculation at each interim analysis will be provided in the SAP.

The time plan, on which Trump was certainly briefed, foresaw that the first interim analysis would likely occur in late September or early October.

However Pfizer did not publish any results when the first two interim analysis points were met. On November 9, after the election, Pfizer announced very positive results at the third interim analysis point:

Pfizer and partner BioNTech said Monday that their vaccine against Covid-19 was strongly effective, exceeding expectations with results that are likely to be met with cautious excitement -- and relief -- in the face of the global pandemic.

The vaccine is the first to be tested in the United States to generate late-stage data. The companies said an early analysis of the results showed that individuals who received two injections of the vaccine three weeks apart experienced more than 90% fewer cases of symptomatic Covid-19 than those who received a placebo.
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The story of how the data have been analyzed seems to include no small amount of drama.
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The first analysis was to occur after 32 volunteers -- both those who received the vaccine and those on placebo -- had contracted Covid-19. If fewer than six volunteers in the group who received the vaccine had developed Covid-19, the companies would make an announcement that the vaccine appeared to be effective. The study would continue until at least 164 cases of Covid-19 -- individuals with at least one symptom and a positive test result -- had been reported.

However, the announcement at the two first interim analysis points was never made.

[William Gruber, Pfizer's senior vice president of vaccine clinical research and development,] said that Pfizer and BioNTech had decided in late October that they wanted to drop the 32-case interim analysis . At that time, the companies decided to stop having their lab confirm cases of Covid-19 in the study , instead leaving samples in storage. The FDA was aware of this decision. Discussions between the agency and the companies concluded, and testing began this past Wednesday. When the samples were tested, there were 94 cases of Covid in the trial.

This means that the statistical strength of the result is likely far stronger than was initially expected. It also means that if Pfizer had held to the original plan, the data would likely have been available in October, as its CEO, Albert Bourla, had initially predicted.

In October Pfizer already knew from its first interim analysis that its vaccine was successful. But it intentionally held back on the announcement of its success. The FDA knew of this!

Today Moderna announced the success of its Covid-19 vaccine. This is a vaccine in which Dr. Fauci's organization is directly involved in. It seems that Moderna had, like Pfizer, held back its very positive results until after the election:

The drugmaker Moderna announced on Monday that its coronavirus vaccine was 94.5 percent effective, based on an early look at the results from its large, continuing study.

Researchers said the results were better than they had dared to imagine.
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Moderna, based in Cambridge, Mass., developed its vaccine in collaboration with researchers from the Vaccine Research Center, part of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, director of the institute, said in an interview: ...
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Moderna had planned a first interim analysis of its trial data when the number of Covid-19 cases among participants reached 53. But the recent surge in cases drove the number to 95 , and it is likely to speed completion of the study.

Moderna, like Pfizer, skipped the announcement of the results at the first interim analysis point in its clinical protocol.

The FDA and Dr. Fauci were involved in Pfizer's as well as the Moderna's decision to deviate from their clinical protocols. Any change in these protocols must get the FDA's approval. If the companies had not changed their plans the announcement of the good efficacy of both vaccines' would have come before the election.

Trump's well planed vaccine 'October surprise' was sabotaged by two pharmaceutical companies with at least the approval of Dr. Fauci and the FDA.

This might well have cost him his reelection.

It was the health community that really had 'six ways from Sunday' to get back at Trump.

Posted by b on November 16, 2020 at 19:54 UTC | Permalink

How many ways did the vultures steal the US election?

The Big Guy will ensure Americans continue to pay twice as much for pharmaceuticals. His 10% is doubled too, after all.


norecovery , Nov 16 2020 20:16 utc | 3

The Corporate State envelopes the administrators of the MSM, Medical and Academic Institutions, and State and Local Governments, in order to create and enforce a largely fictitious health emergency -- the latest in a series of Disaster Capitalist scenarios designed to rob us blind.

lysias , Nov 16 2020 20:20 utc | 4

Hadn't Trump talked about limiting the prices that pharma companies can charge?

[Nov 16, 2020] COVID-19 -Restriction-- U.S. Set to Lose 9.2 Million Jobs in Tourism and Travel Sector - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

Notable quotes:
"... A staggering 9.2 million jobs could be lost in the U.S. Travel & Tourism sector in 2020 if barriers to global travel remain in place, the World Travel & Tourism Council (WTTC) revealed. ..."
Nov 16, 2020 | www.globalresearch.ca

By World Travel & Tourism Council Global Research, November 13, 2020 World Travel & Tourism Council 11 November 2020 Region: USA

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A staggering 9.2 million jobs could be lost in the U.S. Travel & Tourism sector in 2020 if barriers to global travel remain in place, the World Travel & Tourism Council (WTTC) revealed.

The new figure comes from WTTC's latest economic modelling, which looks at the punishing impact of COVID-19 and travel restrictions on the Travel & Tourism sector.

According to the latest data, 7.2 million jobs in the U.S. have been impacted. If there is no immediate alleviation of restrictions on international travel, as many as 9.2 million jobs – more than half of all jobs supported by the sector in the U.S. in 2019 – would be lost.

WTTC has identified the four top priorities which should be addressed, including the adoption of a comprehensive and cost-effective testing regime at departure to avoid transmission, the re-opening of key 'air corridors' such as between New York and London, and international coordination.

The challenge of restoring safe travels in the new normal is one of the biggest issues facing the U.S. as it grapples with a depressed economy devastated by the COVID-19 pandemic, which has hit the Travel & Tourism sector particularly hard.

The WTTC Economic Impact Report for 2019 revealed that Travel & Tourism contributed $1.84 trillion to the U.S. economy and was responsible for more than one in 10 (10.7%) American jobs.

[Nov 13, 2020] Surgeons have been using surgical masks since their introduction in 1897.

Nov 13, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

ADKC , Nov 13 2020 0:48 utc | 92

"Surgeons have been using surgical masks since their introduction in 1897. It has for some years been customary for surgeons and nurses to wear surgical masks in the operating theatre and to change masks part of the way through any procedure lasting more than a few hours.

"The dangers associated with mask wearing were assessed by five doctors and published in the journal Neurocirugia in 2008.

"Although it is customary for operating theatres to be fitted with air conditioning systems, the writers of the article, entitled, Preliminary Report on Surgical Mask induced Deoxygenation During Major Surgery, pointed out that it is known that heat and moisture are trapped beneath surgical masks and concluded that 'it seems reasonable that some of the exhaled carbon dioxide may also be trapped beneath them, inducing a decrease in blood oxygenation'.

"A total of 53 surgeons, of both sexes, all employed at university hospitals and aged between 24 and 54 years of age were tested. All were non-smokers and none had any chronic lung disease. The test involved pulse oximetry before and after the course of an operation. The study showed that the longer a mask was worn the greater the fall in blood oxygen levels. This may lead to the individual passing out and it may also affect natural immunity – thereby increasing the risk of infection.

"The masks used were disposable, sterile, one-way surgical paper masks. To eliminate the effect of dehydration over a several hour surgical operation, the surgeons were allowed after every hour to drink water through a straw.

"The authors of the paper concluded that, 'When the values for oxygen saturation of haemoglobin were compared, there were statistically significant differences only between preoperational and post operational values. As the duration of the operation increases, oxygen saturation of haemoglobin decreases significantly."

From "Proof That Face Masks Do More Harm Than Good" by Dr Vernon Coleman (which was published on "Smashwords" but was suddenly removed the book in an gratuitous act of censorship even though the book was entirely factual)

Proof That Face Masks Do More Harm Than Good (video)

[Nov 02, 2020] Fauci bets on Biden

Nov 02, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Bemildred , Nov 1 2020 20:25 utc | 29

Fauci bets on Biden:

Fauci praises Biden on Covid-19 & criticizes Trump in interview with Washington Post published THREE DAYS before election

[Nov 01, 2020] Fauci praises Biden on Covid-19 criticizes Trump in interview with Washington Post published THREE DAYS before election

Fauci is a pretty sleep and sleazy swamp creature. And he probably has influential friends in military. Otherwise he would be long gone.
Nov 01, 2020 | www.rt.com
Get short URL Fauci praises Biden on Covid-19 & criticizes Trump in interview with Washington Post published THREE DAYS before election Anthony Fauci is shown testifying in a US Senate hearing in September. © Reuters 18 Follow RT on RT Anthony Fauci used his last Friday night before the election to give an interview to the Washington Post in which he praised Joe Biden's attitude toward the Covid-19 pandemic and criticized President Donald Trump's.

Intentionally or otherwise, Fauci put his thumb on the electoral scale by painting a doomsday picture of the nation's Covid-19 outlook and suggesting the Democrat candidate is more focused on the pandemic than is the Republican incumbent. Asked about differences between the two on the virus issue, Fauci praised Biden for "taking it seriously from a public-health perspective," and said Trump looks at it from the standpoint of "the economy and reopening the country," according to the Post, which published its article Saturday evening.

ALSO ON RT.COM Trump failed to fight and expose the establishment's Covid narrative – and now it may cost him re-election

Fauci, who is the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, echoed Biden's predictions of a "dark winter," saying, "We're in for a whole lot of hurt. All the stars are aligned in the wrong place as you go into the fall and winter season, with people congregating at home indoors. You could not possibly be positioned more poorly."

The doctor didn't specifically attribute his gloomy assessment to Trump's policies, but Biden has made the virus outbreak the centerpiece of his campaign, repeatedly blaming the president for the nation's Covid-19 death toll, which stands at more than 230,000.

ALSO ON RT.COM 'Bad arm!' Trump blasts 'disaster' Fauci in campaign call, slams doctor's baseball pitching

Fauci complained to the Post that Trump is increasingly leaning on medical adviser Scott Atlas for advice on the pandemic. "I have real problems with that guy," Fauci said. "He's a smart guy who's talking about things that I believe he doesn't have any real insight or knowledge or experience in. He keeps talking about things that, when you dissect it out and parse it out, it doesn't make any sense."

Fauci said in April that Trump had immediately backed all the Covid-19 mitigation recommendations made to him by US public health officials, including Fauci himself. In September, he said the president had taken the outbreak very seriously from the beginning.

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White House spokesman Judd Deere blasted Fauci for "choosing three days before an election to play politics," after previously praising Trump's actions.

"As a member of the (White House coronavirus) task force, Dr. Fauci has a duty to express concerns or push for a change in strategy, but he's not done that, instead choosing to criticize the president in the media and make his political leanings known by praising the president's opponent – exactly what the American people have come to expect from the swamp," Deere told the Post.

Fauci said in February that the risk of coronavirus in the US was "relatively low," and told CBS's 60 Minutes program in March that "people should not be walking around with masks." By October, he was voicing support for a national mask mandate.

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Atlas contended in an interview with RT's Going Underground show that Covid-19 lockdowns have been an "epic failure" and are "killing people" without curbing the spread of the virus.

"The public-health leadership have failed egregiously, and they're killing people with their fear-inducing shutdown policies," Trump's coronavirus adviser said.

Investigative journalist Jordan Schachtel took to Twitter to criticize Fauci for attacking Atlas while offering "zero evidence, data, etc," calling the comments "a little character-assassination attempt by the tiny totalitarian."

Tweet See new Tweets Tweet Jordan Schachtel @JordanSchachtel · 19h Fauci has complete breakdown, resorts to crying to the media. Notice his little rant (loaded with extreme amounts of professional jealousy) has zero evidence, data, etc. A little character assassination attempt by the tiny totalitarian. Quote Tweet Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT · 21h "I have real problems with that guy," Fauci said of Atlas. "He's a smart guy who's talking about things that I believe he doesn't have any real insight or knowledge or experience in...when you dissect it out and parse it out, it doesn't make any sense." https:// washingtonpost.com/politics/fauci -covid-winter-forecast/2020/10/31/e3970eb0-1b8b-11eb-bb35-2dcfdab0a345_story.html 18

[Oct 25, 2020] A Large Danish Study on Mask Wearing Is Being Delayed by Publishers of Major Medical Journals Therefore Preventing the Results from Being Made Public

That's too broad of a headline. The real question is under which conditions masks help and under which they do not or can be harmful. For example in public transport I think they are definitely useful as they prevent spreading of virus from an infected person to others. The same is probably true for shops and other closed spaces.
But outside they are harmful and can be increase your chances of getting an infection.
Oct 25, 2020 | www.thegatewaypundit.com

One of the biggest questions in the world right now is whether the use of masks is beneficial in preventing contracting the China coronavirus. A study attempted to do just that but publishers will not take it on and are preventing it from being published. A large mask study out of Denmark is complete but being delayed in publishing. Although the size of the study and the study's design are well within the parameters of a solid study, publishers will not take it on:

The purpose of the study was once and for all to try to clarify the extent to which the use of masks in public space provides protection against the corona infection.

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One of the authors of the study is upset the study has not been published for peer review. The world needs to know the results of the study and should be provided a chance to challenge it and determine its viability:

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Alex Berenson shared that the study should be released – we need to know if wearing masks is harmful:

We can guess right now why the study is not being published – because masks don't work in preventing the spread of the China coronavirus and likely are harmful to your health.

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[Oct 20, 2020] Trump said he wants Fauci to "make better decisions" and claimed the original strategy to defeat the pandemic suggested by Fauci was "no masks let China in."

Oct 19, 2020 | www.rt.com
After Dr. Anthony Fauci gave an interview in which he claimed the White House was controlling his media appearances, the president lashed out at him, even taking to comparing how each of them throws a baseball.

"Dr.Tony Fauci says we don't allow him to do television, and yet I saw him last night on @60Minutes," Trump tweeted on Monday, referencing the interview where Fauci made his claims about being limited in who he can talk to.

"He seems to get more airtime than anybody since the late, great, Bob Hope," the president added, referencing the late comedian known for his near-constant rotation on television while he was alive.

ALSO ON RT.COM New York Governor Cuomo goes 'full anti-vaxxer' on Covid-19 vaccine, says people should be 'very skeptical'

Trump said he wants Fauci to "make better decisions" and claimed the original strategy to defeat the pandemic suggested by Fauci was "no masks & let China in."

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In the campaign call, Trump reportedly called Fauci a "disaster" and said people are tired of coronavirus and hearing from "Fauci and all these idiots."

While Fauci has been frequently criticized by conservatives for his support of lockdowns to battle Covid-19, his popularity with Democrats has been growing. Presidential candidate Joe Biden has said he would give Fauci the opportunity to continue working with the White House on the pandemic if he won the election.

Thus, Democrats have not taken Trump's latest criticisms of the doctor all that well with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) and others targeting the president on social media.

"After deceptively using Dr. Fauci's words in a TV ad last week, now Trump is attacking him as a 'disaster.' For what? For telling the truth. We all know who the disaster is here, Mr. President. You," Rep. Adam Schiff (D-California) tweeted .

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Biden also released a statement condemning Trump's Fauci comments and claiming he is waving the "white flag" on the pandemic.

garyo550 1 hour ago Some time ago-this year-Fauci was outed as having endorsed, 15 years ago, Hydroxychlorquine as a drug that would kill AIDS, Ebola, SARS and a legion of other bugs. What has changed? Filthy lucre is one reason touted.

[Oct 19, 2020] Trump Slams -Idiot- Dr. Fauci- -Every Time He Goes On TV It's A Bomb...But There's A Bigger Bomb If You Fire Him- -

Oct 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

During a conference call with campaign staff that White House reporters were bizarrely allowed to listen in on, President Trump complained that "there's a bomb" every time Dr. Anthony Fauci goes on television, which is most days.

This is far from the first time President Trump has complained about the good doctor. But it might be the first time he's offered some direct commentary on exactly why he won't fire Dr. Fauci, even as Trump seems to have moved on with a new COVID-19 advisor, Dr. Scott Atlas, who has faced persecution by Big Tech for his views on how to approach COVID-19.

Though he conceded that the good doctor is "a nice guy" who has "been around for 500 years", Trump said the problem with Dr. Fauci is that every time he goes on TV "there's a bomb", yet if you fire him, "there's an even bigger bomb".

"People are saying whatever...just leave us alone. People are tired of COVID... People are tired of hearing Fauci and these idiots, all these idiots who got it wrong...every time he goes on television there's always a bomb, but there's a bigger bomb if you fire him. This guy's a disaster."

With less than 3 weeks to go before election day, Trump also asserted that the American people are moving on from COVID-19 as cases rebound, while hospitalizations are also starting to creep higher. However, so far at least, deaths have been mostly subdued.

Confirming that he was speaking mostly off the cuff, Trump added after that if there was a reporter on the call (he didn't seem to realize that multiple WH reporters were apparently listening) they could report it "just how I said it."

"If there's a reporter on you can have it just the way I said it, I couldn't care less," Trump said.

According to the NYT , Trump's campaign manager had organized the call to discuss strategy, before Trump pivoted to Dr. Fauci, an issue that was clearly on his mind following the doctor'scriticisms of Trump's campaign ads last week.

The NYT also brought up an interview with Dr. Fauci on '60 Minutes' last night where the doctor refuted Trump's claims that the end of the outbreak is just around the corner.

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Trump also reportedly called an NYT article claiming Trump was becoming increasingly dissatisfied with some of his aides - which followed Trump hinting that he might not bring back AG Bill Barr if elected for a second term due to his inability to charge any of the FBI officials involved with Operation Crossfire Hurricane despite the mountain of evidence suggesting some skulduggery was afoot as the FBI tried to put together an "insurance policy" to protect the nation from Trump.

"I love Mark Meadows," Trump reportedly said (the NYT report focused on frictions between the president and his chief of staff).

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Finally, Trump also told staff that the Wall Street Journal - which is controlled by Rupert Murdoch, who also owns and controls the New York Post, the paper the published the string of damning reports about Hunter Biden's influence-peddling abroad - is working on "an important story".


artvandalai , 5 hours ago

....If there's a reporter on you can have it just the way I said it, I couldn't care less," Trump said.

And that, my friends, is why Trump won the first time and will win again.

Boing_Snap , 1 hour ago

Great link many thanks.

https://fort-russ.com/2020/05/dr-rancourt-masks-and-respirators-do-not-work-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-curbing-covid-19-transmission/

Freeman of the City , 3 hours ago

Yep, you don't like Trump or America, good.

Move to China.

Izzy Dunne , 3 hours ago

spqrusa:

You deluded sycophant. Fauci is head of NIAID.

He was APPOINTED to lead Trump's Corona virus task force.

spqrusa , 3 hours ago

Trump did not appoint Fauci - Fauci is a permanent fixture in government protected from firing by your know... "laws"

What a crock - the President HAS the Authority under the Constitution to FIRE ANYONE under his command.

Les D , 3 hours ago

Yup, sure did, and too many others.

Wray, Barr, Bolton, Kelly, McMaster, Sessions, Tillerson, Cohn, Mattis, Kelly, Mooch, Kiersten and her successor McAleenan; CIA Brennan lap dancer Haspel; promoted Rosenstein to 1st Asst who then took over; Minarosa or whatever her name was.

Add who I'm forgetting. The worst performance of any president, brings in one snake after another. Gorsuch will be the next one that becomes obvious. His first majority opinion sounded the alarm. PT, Gorsuch said publicly Justice Kennedy, a 100% traitor turncoat, who he clerked for and swore him in, was his Judicial Idol. Donald, duh?

Inept, inattentive, betrayed, too trusting--choose your analysis but his people decisions, his favorite word: "A disaster".

BaNNeD oN THe RuN , 3 hours ago

@spqrusa

Correct, ultimately Dr. Fauci reports to the Director of the Department of Health & Human Services and Trump could insist that he be fired.

"... and that sumbytch got fired."

Pig Circus , 4 hours ago

Love him or hate him The Trumpster tells it like it is. Most transparent President in history.

[Sep 26, 2020] Cure worse than the disease- Study says UK lockdown linked to thousands of excess deaths

Highly recommended!
Sep 26, 2020 | www.rt.com

Thousands of Britons who suffer heart attacks and strokes are dying at home instead of seeking medical treatment, a new study has found, as new government figures show 75,000 are projected to die as a result of lockdown measures.

Stay-at-home orders prompted countless people suffering from serious medical conditions to avoid hospitals, according to the study's findings, which were published in the Heart medical journal and first reported by the Daily Mail. The paper noted that deaths from heart disease in private homes surged by 35 percent from March to July, resulting in 2,279 more fatalities on average over the past six years. However, heart and stroke deaths in hospitals dropped by around 1,400 during the same period, suggesting that some who chose to stay home would have died anyway even if they had been hospitalized. The researchers calculated that in total, there were 2,085 excess deaths in England and Wales that could be linked to heart attack and stroke sufferers who refused to seek out medical treatment. This means that between March 2 and June 30, every day 17 people died needlessly from heart attacks.

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[Sep 25, 2020] Rand Paul on his heated exchange with Fauci over herd immunity - YouTube

Sep 25, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Sen. Rand Paul, R-KY, weighs in on the Breonna Taylor decision, his argument with Dr. Fauci and the new Senate Hunter Biden report. #FoxNews

[Sep 17, 2020] Dr. Quack- CDC's Redfield Claims Masks -- Guaranteed To Protect Against COVID

Sep 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Dr. Quack? CDC's Redfield Claims Masks "Guaranteed To Protect Against COVID" by Tyler Durden Thu, 09/17/2020 - 14:09 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Authored by Jordan Schachtel via The Mass Illusion,

In February, Redfield said healthy people should *not* wear masks.

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Testifying before the Senate Appropriations Committee Wednesday morning, CDC Director Robert Redfield entered further into quack doctor territory, claiming that wearing a mask protects the wearer against the novel coronavirus, even more so than a high-efficacy vaccine.

"These facemasks are the important, powerful public health tool we have," Redfield said, while touching both sides of his mask and unconsciously contaminating it with his hands. "I might even go so far as to say that this facemask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine," he added.

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This appears to be another "scientific" evolution on masks from the "public health expert" class. At first, we were advised not to wear masks. Then, the "my mask protects you. Your mask protects me" mantra became the widely disseminated narrative. Now, masks apparently have the incredible power of protecting the mask wearer from the virus.

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In February, Redfield said the exact opposite about masks.

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In the February hearing, Redfield told Americans not to buy medical-grade masks , saying there's "no role for these masks in the community."

There remains zero evidence that cloth masks or the earloop masks displayed by Redfield helps to slow the spread of COVID-19 or protect the wearer from infection. No country in the world has proven a link in slowing or stopping the spread due to mask wearing mandates, which are in effect in countless nations.

Given the lack of demonstrated evidence supporting it, mask-wearing has become a cult-like religious movement in the United States , one that relies on complete subservience to total mysticism. Members of the mask movement frequently target Americans who engage in non-compliance, likening these individuals to evil, plague-carrying menaces. Redfield's testimony will only add fuel to the mask mania that is sowing discord in America.

In his testimony, Redfield added that a COVID vaccine probably won't be available to the general public until at least the second or third quarter of 2021.

"If you're asking me when is it going to be generally available to the American public, so we can begin to take advantage of vaccine to get back to our regular life, I think we're probably looking at third, late second quarter, third quarter 2021," he testified, adding that first responders may have access to the vaccine before the end of the year.

Like many institutional bureaucracies in the federal government, the CDC has become plagued with corruption and "woke" politics. A whistleblower recently revealed that the CDC was forcing its staff to undergo "critical race theory" training.

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[Sep 15, 2020] Fauci- -I Have To Disagree- With Trump On COVID -Rounding The Corner

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Sep 15, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Michael Nadler via AmericanThinker.com,

American Thinker has run several articles like this one about Dr. Anthony Fauci's political bias (which is his right). But the Miami Herald published an article that was aimed at undermining President Trump , which actually contains compelling evidence that Fauci's bias or ignorance is affecting what he is telling the American people about Covid-19. In the article, Dr. Fauci: 'I have to disagree' with Trump on coronavirus , the author writes:

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious diseases expert, disagreed on Friday with President Donald Trump's assertion that the country is "rounding the corner" on the coronavirus pandemic.

"I really do believe we're rounding the corner," Trump said during a White House briefing on Thursday. He added that newweekly cases have gone down by 44% since July.

"I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with that because if you look at the thing that you just mentioned, the statistics, Andrea, they're disturbing," Fauci told MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell on Friday.

"We're plateauing at around 40,000 cases a day and the deaths are around 1,000.

From his interview with Andrea Mitchell Friday, the Herald quotes Fauci as stating, "We're plateauing at around 40,000 cases a day and the deaths are around 1,000."

In fact, he is very wrong : the average daily new cases for the past two weeks have been 31,411, dramatically less than Fauci's 40,000 number; and the average daily deaths for the past two-weeks have been 697, a full 30% less than Fauci's 1,000.

More significant, do these graphs of weekly average new cases (blue graph) and deaths (red graph) from Bloomberg look like we're "plateauing?"

Source: Bloomberg

Fauci has a right and obligation to express his views about the current situation and the future risks, but he should not mislead the public about the facts.

As a reminder, here are his comments from last week:

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"We've been through this before," he said. "Don't ever, ever underestimate the potential of the pandemic. And don't try and look at the rosy side of things."

"I keep looking at that curve, and I get more depressed and more depressed about the fact that we never really get down to the baseline that I'd like," he said.


EmmittFitzhume , 59 minutes ago

Deep State Fauci has to go. Perhaps to prison

GoldenDebt , 58 minutes ago

Dr FRAUDci is non stop lying and flip-flopping

SMSpiff , 42 minutes ago

It's safe to come out of your basement now, Joe.

Pope Innocent III , 37 minutes ago

The nature of the Fauci scam is the total intentional destruction of induction and deduction.

Jerky Miester , 32 minutes ago

You've been ****ting up this board for 3 years 7 months, you little phaqqot. Time to get out of the basement and earn an honest living....unless you make your bread and beer money being a pro troll. KYS now.

NotAGenius , 39 minutes ago

This is the legal argument to indict Fauci on mass murder charges, justified but justice no longer exists in the USA, written by a legal writer. These comments and Fauci's crimes would convict Fauci of mass murder and sentence him to prison for life:

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/08/bad_medicine_on_hcq_faucis_waterloo.html .

Covidiot Lvr , 7 minutes ago

Zeroes want Fauci's head on a stick...but decry liberals who interfere with the free speech rights of conservatives on college campuses.

Free speech or no free speech - which is it, Zeroes?

knopperz , 55 minutes ago

The flu vaccination is now 78 years around.
The flu is still there.

Next Stop --> 78 Years wearing a diaper in your face.
Get used to it suckers.

All those people pushing the Corona Narrative should be hanged by the Balls.

CheapBastard , 53 minutes ago

We are obviously rounding the corner with fewer cases and fewer deaths. Most businesses trying to reopen. Fauci is political hack and was from the start. he's also totally incompetent or a liar giving Americans completely wrong advice from the start. The MSM loves him because he's anti-Trump.

2hangmen , 54 minutes ago

Fauci has been wrong since day 1 on Covid. He's done multiple 180s on policies, and the fact this is NOT a deadly virus in comparison to all other virus outbreaks. He's still playing politics and he's still making millions from Big Pharma and the Deep State. Fauci, please say good bye, and ride off into the sunset with your ill gotten gains.

NotAGenius , 44 minutes ago

Trump can't fire Fauci. He is a career government employee. Trump gave him a platform in the beginning. Trump has been right about Fauci now and mostly about this cold virus too, advocating the best medicine possible for it - hcq - while Fauci prevented Americans from getting this cheap commercial safe and effective medical treatment. Fauci has committed mass murder by withholding a life-saving medicine from Americans. The FDA is criminal too, same reason. FDA has also been paying hospitals $39,000 for every patient they kill with the fatal ventilators, killing more than saving according to records. But the government wants more deaths for bigger numbers. The American medical system is actually a genocidal organization now, trying to kill as many Americans as possible in many different ways, many associated with this medical fraud. Fauci should be imprisoned for life were any justice to exist in America. At best, Trump can minimize and ignore him and arrange for him to have no venue to spout b.s. and lies publicly. That's what we basically need: Fauci minimized if not disappeared.

blueapples Staff , 33 minutes ago

Why would he ever fire the fall guy? If he fired him, you'd still have the push for lockdowns, the policies based on flawed statistical models, and all the other nonsense. Except then without a guy like Fauci to place blame on, the administrations role in this becomes much more apparent.

It makes more sense to have a guy like Fauci on board to deflect to, especially given his career as a government employee, so that it looks like there's some nefarious underlying force that is working against the administration when the reality is that that nefarious underlying force is working in tandem with it.

JaWS , 49 minutes ago

Damn the cases. I know about 10 people that have tested positive for covid19. Most cases are not much more than a cold. Some not even that bad. Look at the deaths. That's where the narrative should go. They are significantly down from the peak.

Samual Vimes , 23 minutes ago

SAY WHAT! -- FDA is outsourcing Covid-19 testing to 10 Chinese companies

serotonindumptruck , 38 minutes ago

"Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious diseases expert ..."

I have to disagree with this.

SummerSausage , 36 minutes ago

If they left off the word "expert" it would be an accurate statement.

Bollixed , 6 minutes ago

Fauci is an expert. An 'ex' is a has-been and a 'spert' is a drip under pressure. He fits the bill perfectly.

curtisw , 9 minutes ago

"Because I have a vaccine to peddle."

-- A. Fauci

scottyji , 19 minutes ago

FAUCI BELONGS IN PRISON.

Fauci's narcissisticly obsessed with his "expert image" and his lucrative role as pimp for Big Pharma = total Napoleon Complex, two-faced, stinkin' bureaucrat of the Deep State.

Ergo I.C. , 28 minutes ago

Because Fauci and his buddy Bill Gates are trying peddle vaccines worth billions of dollars.

adr , 39 minutes ago

Since Fauchi is supposedly an expert, maybe he can tell us why people suffering from hay fever are being told they have Covid.

Solarstone , 30 minutes ago

Because you can have both. Try again

CallingDrFraudschi , 25 minutes ago

Proof please.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I 2 = 30%, p = 0.25)

https://swprs.org/who-mask-study-seriously-flawed/

A. General flaws

  1. Of the 29 studies analyzed by the Lancet meta-study, seven studies are unpublished and non-peer-reviewed observational studies that should not be used to guide clinical practice according to the medRxiv disclaimer (references 3, 4, 31, 36, 37, 40 and 70; see table above).
  2. Of the 29 studies considered by the meta-study, only four are about the SARS-CoV-2 virus ; the other 25 studies are about the SARS-1 virus or the MERS virus, both of which have very different transmission characteristics: they were transmitted almost exclusively by severely ill hospitalized patients and not by community transmission.
  3. Of the four studies relating to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, two were misinterpreted by the Lancet meta-study authors ( refs. 44 and 70 ), one is inconclusive ( ref. 37 ), and one is about N95 (FFP2) respirators and not about medical masks or cloth masks (see detailed analysis below).
  4. The Lancet meta-study is used to guide global facemask policy for the general population. However, of the 29 studies considered by the meta-study, only three are classified as relating to a non-health-care (i.e. community) setting . Of these three studies, one is misclassified ( ref. 50 , relating to a hospital environment), one showed no benefit of facemasks ( ref. 69 ), and one is a poorly designed retrospective study about SARS-1 in Beijing based on telephone interviews ( ref. 74 ). None of these studies refer to SARS-CoV-2.
  5. The authors of the Lancet meta-study acknowledge that the certainty of the evidence regarding facemasks is "low" as all of the studies are observational and none is a randomized controlled trial (RCT). The WHO itself admitted that its updated facemask policy guidelines were based not on new evidence but on "political lobbying" .

In view of these shortcomings, University of Toronto epidemiology professor Peter Jueni called the WHO study "methodologically flawed" and "essentially useless".

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  1. In the US state of Kansas , the 90 counties without mask mandates had lower coronavirus infection rates than the 15 counties with mask mandates. To hide this fact, the Kansas health department tried to manipulate the official statistics and data presentation.
Consuelo , 36 minutes ago

Fauci has been torpedoed here --- even without his lying numbers (of cases & deaths). With the actual non-LYING numbers, he should be stripped of his medical license and prosecuted for gross negligence, even gross-er Incompetence, and for potential Criminal $Gain off his rather cozy relationship with Big Pharma and Bill Gates...

This whole thing was a $SCAM of the highest order.

aelfheld , 34 minutes ago

Fauci's a bureaucrat.

Bureaucrats have unqualified immunity.

Everybodys All American , 43 minutes ago

During the Spanish Flu of 1918 no one as I can tell was advocating for everyone to be vaccinated either for or against their will. That tells you everything about this Dr. Fauci imo. He should be removed from the planet.

drstrangelove73 , 6 minutes ago

I've posted about Tony several times this year.I spent an academic quarter as a medical student on his service at the NIH,then saw him again many times in the 80's when I returned as a fellow.He is a lifelong democrat,and card carrying member of the deep state who has played politics with the management of viral infections for 40 years.Let that sink in.He has been the director of the same NIH institute for 40 years.No one else in the history of the institute has been a director for half that long.You think he doesn't know how to play the game? _arrow

asteroids , 14 minutes ago

How does Fauci explane Sweden? The number of new cases is very low. Their death rate is almost zero. Sweden now has herd immunity without a vaccine.

Hyzer , 9 minutes ago

He pretends it doesn't exist, just like the MSM.

TannyDanner , 3 minutes ago

He's trusting the plebs won't do their own research. I'm looking at the data almost daily and am beyond thankful that Sweden had the balls to go about it the way they did and not bow down to the bullies.

legalize , 18 minutes ago
Useful_Idiot714 , 35 minutes ago

700 mostly old people with other diseases are dying from this each day in a country of 325,000,000. Sounds like we need mail in voting so that the frightened commies can vote early and often to save us by electing a senile racist rapist pedophile.

SummerSausage , 46 minutes ago

Panic is Fauci's objective.

Democrats love big government which means more power for Fauci, more taxes and less freedom for you.

Robert Paulson , 30 minutes ago

Panic is too unpredictable, and disruptive.

The "hope" is for respectful, solemn acceptance that Big Brother/Sister can save "us" from ill health, poverty and international "enemies."

I mean **** was broken across most institutions throughout Western Civilization before the flu was weaponized into a means of control. But the whole theater has become absurd.

Loser Face , 16 minutes ago

Everyone should watch this video, which explains the US mortality curve: https://youtu.be/8UvFhIFzaac

The casedemic is pure and blatant FUD targeted towards Trump and Americans.

JamcaicanMeAfraid , 27 minutes ago

I predict on November 4th and if Dementia Joe is elected Fauci and his super ego will stand before any microphone put in fromt of him and say "Joe Biden has put a stop to covid, he has conquered the virus."

aelfheld , 44 minutes ago

Fauci sees the statistics as disturbing because they indicate an endpoint to his prominence.

JaWS , 51 minutes ago

There are 4 men in my county that were tested positive within about 3 days of each other and they had to quarantine for 14 days. About a week into it they started meeting everyday down at the local fishing hole to fish while no one else was around. One of these men is 80 years old. The other 3 are in their 70s. Does this sound like something to shut the entire country down?

GoldenDebt , 1 hour ago

Dont be a moron

Dr Fraudci is all politics and he's LYING. Dr FRAUDci also never condemned the protests as being potential SUPER-SPREADER events

He's a criminal

moneybots , 13 minutes ago

"I really do believe we're rounding the corner," Trump said during a White House briefing on Thursday. He added that newweekly cases have gone down by 44% since July.

"I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with that because if you look at the thing that you just mentioned, the statistics, Andrea, they're disturbing," Fauci told Andrea Mitchell on Friday.

The statistics say Trump is right, according to the chart. Why is Fauci lying to the American people?

Thalamus , 45 minutes ago

Fauci's worst case prediction of 1.7 million deaths from Covid-19 kind of came up short at only 10K; but at least he didn't yell fire in a crowded theater .

Zerogenous_Zone , 48 minutes ago

which statistics?

to quote the great Mark Twain (now classified by the leftists as a rassiss)...

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics ."

the one statistic that is relevant, is the decrease in mortality...

and I for one, would like to know how they created a Covid-19 specific test...wait...what was that?

THEY HAVEN'T?! it is an antigen test...that is, if you have any residual from your LAST flu shot (they inject you with lysed virus to build up your antibody count...antigens!) you could test positive...

and probably a majority of the tests are at issue since the test is highly inaccurate...

but who cares? the virus is out of the box and here to stay...so you have either already been exposed, or you will soon be exposed...and NO vaccine will be sufficient (since viral strains mutate almost immediately)...especially the comment cold (news flash!! the 'common cold' is a CORONAVIRUS!!)

[Sep 15, 2020] How justified are draconian measures taken against the spread of Coronarovirus, including the 'War On Restaurants'

Sep 15, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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honest injun , 3 hours ago

At what point does the man on the street realize that he has been had? It took me about 2 weeks, 6 months ago to realize what Fauci and his cronies were saying was nonsense. Smart people that I know, took months to reach the same conclusion but many people are still buying the disinfo.

Choomwagon Roof Hits , 3 hours ago

Once I started getting into the influenza-like-illness data and realized this was spreading exponentially worldwide since at least November - there were probably millions or tens of millions of people infected and recovered in the US by the time the first cases were identified.

fackbankz , 3 hours ago

The scam just gets bigger and more absurd every week.

Wait until cold and flu season when people freak out over every little case of the sniffles. Many will have forgotten completely that one year ago it was normal for people to catch cold, and nobody worried about it.

[Sep 15, 2020] In 'War On Restaurants', Media Champion Lockdown Narrative -

Sep 15, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Jeffrey Tucker via The American Institute for Economic Research,

Just when the fear starts to subside, and growing public skepticism seems to push governors into opening, something predictable happens . The entire apparatus of mass media hops on some new, super-scary headline designed to instill more Coronaphobia and extend the lockdowns yet again.

It's a cycle that never stops. It comes back again and again.

A great example occurred this weekend. A poll appeared on Friday from the Kaiser Family Foundation. It showed that confidence in Anthony Fauci is evaporating along with support for lockdowns and mandatory Covid vaccines.

The news barely made the headlines, and very quickly this was overshadowed by a scary new claim: restaurants will give you Covid!

It's tailor-made for the mainstream press. The study is from the CDC, which means: credible. And the thesis is easily digestible: those who test positive for Covid are twice as likely as those who tested negative to have eaten at a restaurant.

"Eating and drinking on-site at locations that offer such options might be important risk factors associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection," the study says.

Very scary!

Thus the implied conclusion: don't allow indoor dining! Otherwise Covid will spread like wildfire!

https://lockerdome.com/lad/13084989113709670?pubid=ld-dfp-ad-13084989113709670-0&pubo=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com&rid=www.zerohedge.com&width=606

After six months of this Corona Kabuki dance, driven by alarmist media and imposed by wacko, power-abusing governors and mayors, I've become rather cynical about the whole enterprise, so I mostly ignore the latest nonsense.

In this case, however, I decided to take a closer look simply because so many millions of owners, workers, and customers have been treated so brutally in the "War on Restaurants."

It turns out, of course, that this is not what the study said. What's more interesting is to consider exactly what's going on here. The study was based on interviews with 314 people who had been tested of their own volition. It included 154 patients with positive test results and 160 control participants with negative test results.

The interviews took place two weeks following the tests, and they concerned life activities two weeks prior to getting the test.

Before we go on here, remember that what alarmed people about Covid was the prospect of dying. The study says nothing about this subject, nor about hospitalization. It's a fair assumption that the positive cases being interviewed here got it (presumably, if the tests are accurate, which they are not ) and got over it.

This alone is interesting simply because it reveals how much the whole subject has been changed: the pandemic has become a casedemic.

Now, to the question of life activities. In the study, based on answers to a survey, the following were not correlated in any significant degree with positive cases of Covid:

Now one might suppose, if you think the study has any merit, that this would be the headline.

The massive power of the state has been deployed all over the United States and the world to force the closure of churches, gyms, offices, salons, and malls. This all happened and is still happening. Also mask mandates became the new normal. The public has been invited by health authorities to jeer at, denounce, and turn in anyone who doesn't have a cloth strapped to his or her face.

All of this happened in complete contradiction to every commercial right, property right, or normal human freedoms. We threw it all away in the name of virus control. Our lives have been completely upended and our assumptions about our rights and liberties have been overturned.

And yet here is a study that is unable to document any correlation between these life activities and catching the disease.

That's an amazing conclusion that could have generated headlines like:

And so on. But none of this was to be. Not one single story in the mainstream press said anything like this, even though this was all implied by the CDC study.

The one place that the study revealed a positive correlation between positive cases and life activities was going to restaurants.

So that's what got the alarmist headlines. Yes, these are all real.

And so on for thousands of times in every mainstream venue. They are all competing for clicks in the great agenda of extending lockdowns and feeding public fear as much as possible. So the worst-possible spin on this slightly sketchy study gets all the headlines.

Thus is it burned into many people's minds that restaurants are really disease-spreading venues. Go out to eat and you might die!

And here is what makes this even stranger. The interviewers never asked the people in the survey whether they were eating indoors or outdoors, as incredible as that seems. The authors admit this:

"Of note, the question assessing dining at a restaurant did not distinguish between indoor and outdoor options."

Why not? Did they just forget to ask? What's going on here?

Which is to say that even if the results are meaningful – and there's so much about this study that is murky and error prone – they are practically useless for knowing what to do about it. If there is no distinction between indoor and outdoor, all speculation about ventilation or crowds or the presence of food and so on, is utterly pointless.

Without knowing that, we are at a loss to figure out any answer to the question of why and what to do. Instead, the message comes down to: don't go out to eat.

Here is how bad the science has become. In the discussion, the authors write the following:

"Direction, ventilation, and intensity of airflow might affect virus transmission, even if social distancing measures and mask use are implemented according to current guidance. Masks cannot be effectively worn while eating and drinking, whereas shopping and numerous other indoor activities do not preclude mask use."

Here is what is weird: the study itself supports none of that paragraph.


The survey never asked about ventilation because the people who made the survey somehow forgot to make a query concerning indoor vs. outdoor dining . As for masks, the study did in fact ask respondents about mask wearing and the results showed no correlation between the sickness and whether and to what extent people were wearing masks!

In other words, that paragraph in the discussion is contradicted in two places by the authors' own study.

In addition, the authors themselves point to an intriguing issue: the people in the survey might have biased their answers based on their personal knowledge of the test results.

Think about it this way. The people who had a positive Covid test are more likely to ask themselves the great question: how did I get this? Going to restaurants is such a rare activity these days that it stands out in one's mind. When the survey asked people if they had gone out to eat, it is possible that the memory of the Covid positive person might be more likely to blame the restaurant, whereas the Covid negative person might be more likely to have forgotten the locale of every meal in the last 30 days.

In other words, the real result of the study might be: Covid patients are more likely to scapegoat restaurants than gyms, churches, and salons.

Alas, none of these interesting considerations appear in the media-rendered version of this study: panic and keep the lockdowns in place!

Lockdowns have become a conclusion in a desperate search for evidence. Imagine if you undertook a study of C-positive vs. C-negative cases and asked the people if they mostly wear lace-up or slip-on shoes. If you come up with some positive correlation, the CDC will publish you and a media panic will ensue.

This is precisely where we've been for six solid months now. The media has become the handmaiden of lockdown tyranny, blasting out simplistic versions of sketchy studies to keep the panic going as long as possible. And the public, which is far too trusting of the media and its capacity for rational and accurate reporting, eats it up.

For now. Once the dust settles on all of this, it seems highly likely that media science reporting will lose credibility for a generation. It certainly deserves that fate.

Meanwhile, an entire industry is being creamed .


play_arrow Walter Melon , 3 hours ago

Same CDC that said this the other day:

"Cloth masks that are used to slow the spread of COVID-19 offer little protection against wildfire smoke. They do not catch small particles found in wildfire smoke that can harm your health."

Just checking if that's the same CDC.

LA_Goldbug , 3 hours ago

Wow !!!!!

Nice find :-)

honest injun , 3 hours ago

At what point does the man on the street realize that he has been had? It took me about 2 weeks, 6 months ago to realize what Fauci and his cronies were saying was nonsense. Smart people that I know, took months to reach the same conclusion but many people are still buying the disinfo.

[Sep 10, 2020] Munk Debates- Scientific Community Has Over-Reacted To COVID-19 Threat ( The Data Proves It) -

Sep 10, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Via MunkDebates.com,

Are we overreacting to COVID-19?

Be it Resolved, the scientific community has overreacted to the threat of COVID-19 and the data prove it...

Six months into a global pandemic and 63,000 scientific papers later, scientists and medical researchers continue to be perplexed by COVID-19. There are many unknowns with the virus, and one of the most controversial is how deadly it really is. Since the beginning of the pandemic, leading health institutions such as the World Health Organization and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases have warned that COVID-19 is much more dangerous than the seasonal flu and that, without expansive public health measures, millions of people around the world could die from the virus.

But there are some in the scientific community who disagree. And they say they have the data to prove it. Antibody testing of large population groups indicates that we could be grossly underestimating the number of people who have been infected by the virus – which means we are dramatically overestimating the death rate. Given these findings, they question whether sweeping public health controls are the way to approach a possible second wave of COVID-19 this autumn.

GUESTS

To understand the true prevalence of COVID-19 infections in the United States, Jay Bhattacharya has recently undertaken several seroprevalence studies (the study of antibodies in a population). You can read about his study of Santa Clara County in California here and his study of 5,600 Major League Baseball employees here .

Sten Vermund has published numerous scholarly studies on infectious diseases, which you can view here .

During the debate both Jay and Sten speak about COVID-19's "infection fatality rate" (IFR). IFR is one of the most important characteristics of an infectious disease in determining its severity. It is basically the ultimate measure of a disease's ability to cause death. You can learn more about IFR and how it is estimated here . In the debate, both Jay and Sten agree that the current estimates of the COVID-19 infection fatality rates are overestimated and therefore misleading. To learn more, read Jay's Wall Street Journal op ed.

During the debate, Sten points out that between March and May of 2020 there was a 19 per cent excess death rate in the United States. Excess death rates refer to the difference between the observed numbers of deaths in specific time period and expected number of deaths in the same time period. According to Sten, the excess rates are probably 28 per cent higher than the official deaths tally of COVID-19 because so many cases are not reported. This Nature.com article supports this view.

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Jay argues that part of the science community's overreaction to COVID-19 has been censorship of unpopular scientific views . Jay refers to an op ed in the New York Times by Michael Eisen that expresses concern about how scientific study pre-prints are being released before they are peer reviewed, and calling for the establishment of a scientific "rapid review" service for pre-prints.

One of the scientists Jay identifies as having an unorthodox view on COVID-19 is Gabriela Gomez, She speaks about her research on herd immunity occurring when as little as ten percent of the population has been infected with the virus here and you can read her research article here .

Sten and Jay disagree with each other about the feasibility of isolating the most vulnerable members of society, particularly the elderly, while letting the rest of the population continue to live normally . Sten refers to a New York Times article by David Katz which supports the strategy of "vertical interdiction", where those over 60 are "preferentially protected."

Jay refers to the recent release of findings from a Public Health England study that found negligible spread among one million students who returned to school in June.

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During the debate Jay identifies Sweden's approach to COVID-19 as a model for the world, while Sten argues it represents a failed strategy. You can decide for yourself by listening to the Munk Debate, Be it resolved, Sweden is the model for how to fight this pandemic and the next.

Listen to the full debate below:

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/962-the-munk-debates-podcast-p-52131924/episode/be-it-resolved-the-scientific-community-71215453/?embed=true


[Sep 06, 2020] Inactive fragments on virus RNA trigger false positives in most common COVID test due to way too many cycles of amplification which amplifies noise along with the signal and efffectly turns noise (inactive fragments on RNA) into signal, new study finds

Highly recommended!
From comments: "Article is poorly written by someone who does not know medical science. There are no viral "cells" so the headline is a put off right away. The comment about "sensitivity" is misplaced as PCR tests are too sensitive: ergo false positives. I believe "specificity" is the word the author was searching for. If a test lumps true positives with false positives, then it lacks specificity."
Sep 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

In the past, our reports raising questions about the accuracy of COVID-19 tests have been met with accusations of 'fearmongering' and spreading 'misinformation'.

But not today.

That's because new research from the University of Oxford's Center for Evidence-Based Medicine and the University of the West of England has found that the swab-based technique used for most COVID-19 testing is at risk of returning "false positives" since copies of the virus's RNA detected by the tests might simply be dead, inactive material from a weeks-old infection. Although patients infected with COVID-19 are typically only infectious for a week or less, tests can be triggered by virus genetic material left over from a weeks-old infection.

The team's research involved analyzing 25 studies on the widely used polymerase chain reaction test. PCR tests use material collected with a swab - the most common type of test around the world, and especially in the US - then utilize a "genetic photocopying" technique that allows scientists to magnify the small sample of genetic material collected, which they can then analyze for signs of viral RNA.

What the researchers here have effectively found is that these PCR tests just aren't sensitive enough to distinguish if the viral material is active and infectious, or dead and inert.

For those who desire a more comprehensive understanding of how these tests work, the chart below can be helpful.

Professor Carl Heneghan, one of the authors of the study, said there was a risk that a surge in testing across the UK was increasing the risk of this sample contamination occurring and it may explain why the number of Covid-19 cases is rising but the number of deaths is static.

"Evidence is mounting that a good proportion of 'new' mild cases and people re-testing positives after quarantine or discharge from hospital are not infectious, but are simply clearing harmless virus particles which their immune system has efficiently dealt with," he told the Spectator.

Professor Heneghan added that international scrutiny might be required to avoid "the dangers of isolating non-infectious people or whole communities." ZKnight 14 minutes ago

Fake science. How about purify the virus first and establish a gold standard for testing first. No, of course not because the CDC has a patent for Covid-19 and nobody is allowed to try find it to see if it exists. play_arrow LogicFusion 27 minutes ago

Everybody is a Covid-19 / Coronavirus expert now!

Read about the failed coin dealer and convicted felon's performance. It's hilarious!

Martin Armstrong becomes Covid-19 Coronavirus Expert overnight play_arrow ducksinarow 59 minutes ago

Covid -19 has been so politicized that I don't believe a word of any publication for or against testing, existence of the Virus, or anything that provokes testing or issues opinions about locking down communities. Just like the riots, Covid news is just plain boring. play_arrow ominous 3 hours ago

Link to spectator.co.uk goes to home page, not this story.

Where is the original story posted? play_arrow play_arrow ominous 3 hours ago (Edited)

Perhaps this

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/infectious-positive-pcr-test-result-covid-19/ y_arrow 1 Rabbi Blitzstein 38 minutes ago

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes the laws" - Mayer Amschel Rothschild. play_arrow play_arrow tangent 4 hours ago remove link

People who recommend a vaccine for an entirely cured virus should lose their license to practice medicine. 99.9% cure rate applying to people who take it before being hospitalized is one of the biggest success stories in the history of medicine for HCQ. Not only that, but there are multiple other likely cures that simply have not been studied well. You'd think people would appreciate the fact that the common cold has been cured, but instead they just whine that big pharma isn't getting those bucko bucks.

I honestly expected a ticker tape parade like in the movies when that first cure study came out. But instead they took a massive **** on the study and on the doctor... ****ty world we live in. ay_arrow Pair Of Dimes Shift 2 hours ago

An exec (55+) at my company is gung ho about the vaccine.

Unfortunately, I just had to give him a "wait and see" response although I know vaccines for coronaviruses are impossible. play_arrow 2 play_arrow ThanksIwillHaveAnother 4 hours ago (Edited)

Viruses are not full cells. They are DNA/RNA wrapped with a protein the clings to a cell then the cell imports the DNA/RNA to start making its proteins. So what is inactive? If that person sneezes on another person depending on immune system status that other person could get a bad infection. y_arrow 4 CrabbyR 3 hours ago

viruses utilizes CELL structures and host DNA to replicate dna or rna according to the viruses genetic code, the protein jacket is the final product to

disguise the virus from detection and to bind on another cell after the compromised cell RUPTURES, there's more to it but if it cannot copy itself effectively it can become nonviable and unable to infect another cell. It replicates DNA inside a host cell, It is not a complete organism and cannot replicate unless it can inject its DNA into a host cell. Antibodies cling to viruses and destroy this ability to bind to a target cell. A non viable virus has a damaged coat or DNA RNA that has to many Dimers (damage or code breaks) Bacteria is more in line with what you think a virus is y_arrow onewayticket2 4 hours ago (Edited) remove link

they lost me when they changed the definition of "death" to include "presumed, untested" cases (while bI@#$% ing at me that we needed to "follow the science")....and even got busted for the laughable motorcycle accident being classified as a covid death and the Labs that were sending in 100% positive results. (until they were caught) play_arrow OutaTime43 4 hours ago remove link

The test detects RNA. Not necessarily viable virus. Also, it will detect RNA presence in an individual who may already have antibodies and may be immune. We are bombarded daily by viruses of which we already have immunity. play_arrow sun tzu 10 hours ago

Shocking news that the South Koreans already discovered and published back in May. Western big pharma driven medicine is garbage 😂😂😂

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/05/wha-passes-pandemic-probe-resolution-korea-clarifies-reinfection-reports

play_arrow Roger Casement 10 hours ago

WTF!!!!

World Bank exporting COVID-19 Testing Kits in 2018??????

https: // wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/ALL/year/2018/tradeflow/Exports/partner/WLD/nomen/h5/product/300215 play_arrow 7 play_arrow sun tzu 10 hours ago

Interesting play_arrow play_arrow Jack Mehoff 1 more time 9 hours ago

Business as usual play_arrow play_arrow Argon1 7 hours ago

Preparation for agenda 2021 in 2017. play_arrow 1 play_arrow CrabbyR 4 hours ago

WOW.......ties a few strands from other sources together into a real ugly picture play_arrow play_arrow Welsh Bard 10 hours ago

The professor who won the Nobel prize for work in this field, said that the way this test is being operated with over forty cycles, means that any results are entirely meaningless.

In Britain, having spent over £15 billion setting up PCR testing systems and a shaky test and trace apparatus on top of that, it appears that 90% of positive results now appear to be false. This is compounded by the fact that when a hot spot develops, more testing is done to show a rapid increase in more false positive results, meaning further new lockdowns and even more testing to prove yet more false positive results ad infinitum.

Now whether this is by design or ineptitude, people must decide for themselves but the outcome is utter chaos.

For those countries who have not followed the Swedish model especially countries like Australia and New Zealand who have set up complete isolation, now face a future perpetually cut off from the rest of the world.

Okay, new techniques will and are coming along to treat the disease like HCQ when used correctly maybe as a prophylactic and a vaccine that will need to be constantly upgraded like the Flu vaccine, means that the whole world has painted itself into a corner unless drastic revision is now made to the whole sorry mess.

In the meantime, we will now be stuck with digital currency and the introduction of ID Health Cards that will limit people in how they travel where they work and access to a whole heap of things like government services.

Welcome to the new world order! play_arrow 1 KuriousKat 11 hours ago (Edited) remove link

Don't tell the Shameless Aussie gov that after arresting hundreds for simply voicing doubt on need to lockdown entire city...Next time it will be thousands and not a damn thing they can do to stop it..These people are trickling us the truth how worthless the tests are when pretty much everyone knows. play_arrow espirit 12 hours ago remove link

Lessee.

WHO

Imperial College

John Hopkins

CDC

Line all those peeps up against the wall, and the first one to rat gets to live.

I'll provide my own ammo... ay_arrow Sick Monkey 6 hours ago

Not everyone working in these agencies are dishonest but like you and I we have to work and eat.

Most of them are trapped in this mess with bills to pay threatened by NDA.


play_arrow 1 Urban Roman 12 hours ago

Not particularly new news. Been talked about since April at least -- it's an RNA virus, it has its own polymerase, and it leaves lots of RNA fragments in its wake.

The Corona family of viruses make 5 or 6 strands with partial copies of their RNA molecule. negative copies are made first, and then copied again into positive copies. Finally the one big RNA is made with the entire genome on it.

So about a dozen RNA molecules are made for each finished virus particle that is produced. And finally, a variety of different primers are used for the PCR tests, some are matched to the small partial RNA copies and others are matched to various features on the large whole-virus RNA. They can give different results for the same sample.

So, someone who registers on a PCR test has probably been exposed to the virus, but the test gives no clue as to whether it is an active infection, or the person is contagious, or they are just coming down with it, or they got over it six months ago. play_arrow 4 play_arrow 1

10 play_arrow gordo 12 hours ago remove link

Sweden, no masks, no lock downs, ALL SCHOOLS OPEN, herd immunity, no second wave.

Still think your masks and lock downs are working muppets?


1 play_arrow The 3rd Dimentia 13 hours ago

https://youtu.be/sjYvitCeMPc SARS-CoV2 and the Rise of Medical Technocracy. Lee Merritt, M.D. play_arrow 3 play_arrow hugin-o-munin 13 hours ago

I'm glad to see that many are starting to counter the official narrative.

We've been asleep for too long and allowed these agendas to fester to the point we're at now where a college dropout software salesman and a former 3rd world communist terrorist (neither of whom have any medical degree) are dictating to the world how everyone needs to get a DNA altering vaccine and a medical ID. It's completely nuts and bonkers yet more or less the entire planet's governments follow in 'lockstep' with ever more draconian laws and regulations incarcerating people in their own homes, making them wear masks causing oxygen deprivation and shutting down the entire world economy.


lay_arrow Warthog777 , 13 hours ago

Article is poorly written by someone who does not know medical science. There are no viral "cells" so the headline is a put off right away. The comment about "sensitivity" is misplaced as PCR tests are too sensitive: ergo false positives. I believe "specificity" is the word the author was searching for. If a test lumps true positives with false positives, then it lacks specificity.

Cabreado , 13 hours ago

"accusations of 'fearmongering' and spreading 'misinformation'.
But not today."

Well, much of the world has known for months now about the testing lies...

and I'd be remiss to not remind the Tylers that they indeed played a role in the fear mongering along the way; quite intently so.

Crush the cube , 13 hours ago

https://play.google.com/store/books/details/Flavio_Bell_Covid_24?id=SxrxDwAAQBAJ

Busted, published 2018, what a scam.

Digital-Anarchy , 14 hours ago

Anyone who would use the term "virus cells", has no clue what they're talking about and should be completely disregarded. Viruses are not cells. PCR tests are searching for something your body produces in response to a virus as well. They are not produced specifically for a singular virus either. The entire concept of PCR testing is garbage. This **** was a scam from the get-go.

hugin-o-munin , 13 hours ago

Yes it is evident now that this entire pandemic is false and political. The goal seems to be to vaccinate entire populations and the question people need to ask is - why? what for? Aside from the obvious economic motives there are some more sinister plans that most people will have a hard time accepting but these need to be looked at. Several years ago there were a group of doctors and researchers that died of suspicious suicides who were collaborating and studying vaccines and the link to autism.

The effort was led by Dr.Jeffrey Bradstreet who was researching the natural substance GcMAF and how this could boost the immune system. What he discovered was that many vaccines had a compound/substance called Nagalase in them that is unnatural and has a detrimental effect on the immune system and function of GcMAF (which is produced by our own bodies) and has no business at all being in vaccines. Just before he was able to blow the whistle on this he also died of a suspicious 'suicide' and today most of the clinics and research groups working on GcMAF have been destroyed and ruined. Draw your own conclusions.

snblitz , 14 hours ago

Dr. Kary Mullis invented the PCR test. He said it was ineffective for this purpose.

Though he was addressing its use in a prior virus hoax unleashed upon the world.

I bet you didn't know this scam has been used before.

That is why I was able to call out the scam right from the start. The second I saw them using the PCR again, I knew it was from the same playbook.

snblitz , 14 hours ago

So many lies.

Viruses are not alive. They have no metabolic functions. They cannot move.

Don't believe me? Get a degree is virology or microbiology or just a read a book on the subject. Or capture a wuhan-virus yourself and watch it under a microscope. It won't move. It won't consume anything. It will just sit there inert.

The problem is that you are being lied to at a scale you cannot imagine.

I know, off to the fema re-education camp for me for spreading false information about the wuhan-virus.

Though I am not the one spreading fear and hysteria.

aldousd , 13 hours ago

There article is confused, but the work of the doctor is not. Viruses use your cells to reproduce. When your immune system targets the virus it actually kills your own cell which has become host to the virus. The virus particles and markers, and the DNA of the virus can be detected in these dead cells, but dead cells cannot serve as a factory for more viruses. So it's effectively a dead virus infected cell. Not a dead virus cell.

So while the transcription of the idea here was done by an idiot, it's not an idiotic idea. The tests cannot tell if the virus came in a living cell that is actively producing more viruses or a dead host cell that has been assassinated by your immune system. That's what they're talking about here.

mstyle , 11 hours ago

what about the chromosome 8 stuff that has been mentioned lately?

(since you appear to be rather intelligent)

hugin-o-munin , 11 hours ago

Thanks. Well the chromosome 8 discovery in the PCR test specifications/details is strange and worrying because it makes you wonder why it's part of this at all. Some believe it's to get more false positive results while others believe it is what the mRNA vaccines are intended to target and if that's right then it's really sinister. What exactly is the plan? To make all of us get Downs Syndrome? I don't know but judging by all their other lies and schemes it wouldn't surprise me.

IRC162 , 14 hours ago

Fuggin progressives and their pandemic political prop. But really this reaction is the same as their reaction to 'racial injustice'. They focus on feelings before the facts are known in order to achieve their end, and then do their best to bury/ignore the facts when they are gathered later.

94% COVID deaths with multiple comorbidities.

10 unarmed blacks killed by police in 2019 (6 were in self-defense).

adr , 15 hours ago

Why didn't you mention that nearly all labs are running 35-40 cycles which guarantees a positive test, simply from noise.

The inventor of the test said if you don't find anything after 15 cycles, it probably isn't there. After 20 cycles the noise starts to be greater than any real information. By 30, the test is mostly noise. More than 35, the test is completely worthless.

Of course I've been saying this for five months, but most people didn't listen. After the NYT article came out, people I know started saying, "How did you know?"

I said, "Because I have critical thinking skills. Why didn't you believe me? Name a time I've steered you wrong."

Antiduck , 14 hours ago

333 labs in florida had 100% positivity. (stupid word.)

ZenStick , 12 hours ago

Exactly correct.
Nobody will touch this line of reasoning in public or on media.
Bastages.

Identify as Ferengi , 15 hours ago

See above, Born2Bwired.

The PCR test is not useful for what they are using it for apparently. This has been known since the beginning. Here is quote regarding AIDS:

"Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel Prize in Science for inventing the PCR, is thoroughly convinced that HIV is not the cause of "AIDS". With regard to the viral load tests, which attempt to use PCR for counting viruses, Mullis has stated: "Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron." PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV. The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.

What PCR does is to select a genetic sequence and then amplify it enormously. It can accomplish the equivalent of finding a needle in a haystack; it can amplify that needle into a haystack. Like an electronically amplified antenna, PCR greatly amplifies the signal, but it also greatly amplifies the noise. Since the amplification is exponential, the slightest error in measurement, the slightest contamination, can result in errors of many orders of magnitude."

http://www.virusmyth.org/aids/hiv/jlprotease.htm

naro , 15 hours ago

NYTimes article last week suggested that only 10% of Covid positive PCR tests are clinically significant and infectious.

[Sep 06, 2020] Lemmings and COVID-19: in a year people will start to realize that they were taken for ride by medical technocracy, which wants to increase thier power; but it will be too late

Fauci became the symbol of excesses of neoliberal medical technocracy.
Sep 06, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

LetThemEatRand , 15 hours ago

In six or twelve months a majority of people will start to get that they were had. It will be too late.

afronaut , 15 hours ago

Doubt it. Unless the media or government says it

palmereldritch , 14 hours ago

There will be mask wearing long before then for totally different reasons.

mstyle , 11 hours ago

There's a rather large percentage of the US population that's going to die with a mask on their face, a BLM sign in their yard, and a Lemon on their screen.

Sad :-(

_wayfarer , 9 hours ago

They were had with 9/11, never got it.

Salisarsims , 5 hours ago

Most of the United States where had by 9/11, and still are.

BlueGreen , 15 hours ago

End lockdowns around the world now! Lockdowns kill. Never again. Sweden's death rate is lower than US, and many other countries.

https://fee.org/articles/sweden-now-has-a-lower-covid-19-death-rate-than-the-us-here-s-why-it-matters/

drendebe10 , 15 hours ago

Gaedamfukn democrap virus. Botox face carcinogenic hair dyed fossilized demented nasty wicked witch of the west ... and her army of flying monkey stooge guvners and mayors keeping their states shut down to oust Orange Julius and they could give two diarrhea schitz about you and your family All these terds care about is power

NoDebt , 15 hours ago

It's not just that the (government) response to this virus has ****** a lot of people royally, it's the absolute certainty that they will do it again in exactly the same manner, pretty much every damned year moving forward forever.

MaF , 15 hours ago

In many blue states they can do it until 2022 when they are voted out...unless the people rise up.

drendebe10 , 15 hours ago

Sheeple rise up? Phat phukn chance

PaulDF , 15 hours ago

Hey, some people think that as long as Trump is gone ~ it doesn't matter what it takes. Nothing is too extreme.

palmereldritch , 14 hours ago

The MS-DOS virus subscription model.

Sound familiar? lay_arrow

Implied Violins , 15 hours ago

The Nobel Prize winner, Kary Mullis, who developed the PCR test called out Fraudci for his ******** during the AIDS crisis on Nightline back in 1994:

https://www.sott.net/article/434439-Was-the-COVID-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus

Even then that ******* was practicing fraud in order to garner more tax dollars. His "test" ruined hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of lives.

Fraudci deserves to be EXECUTED for his BS.

EuroPox , 16 hours ago

Who cares how many 'cases' there are? The virus is not lethal except for a tiny number of people, who already have other problems. Quarantine them and let the rest of us get on with it.

TeamDepends , 16 hours ago

COVID-19 is as real as Muhammed Atta.

[Aug 31, 2020] 9,210 the real US COVID death number? Why Fauchi pretended that this is a new Black Death?

Did Fauci and Birx knew something about origin or the virus that we do not know and that's why they panicked?
Notable quotes:
"... When you are over 75 years old, you are going to succumb to serious underlying conditions covid or no covid. Those who's deaths are being attributed to covid are primarily in that age group. It is disingenuous to create a panic over a virus that almost exclusively contributes (at most) to the deaths of the elderly with underlying serious conditions. Many of those who have died, succumbed to the underlying condition, but incidentally had covid. ..."
"... Actually, Laura, when you are over 75 years old, the risk of dying increases, period. Once you're into the 85 year old and over bucket, which many covid deaths are, you were probably going to die regardless; unless you're a vampire or some other inhuman death defying creature. Is this really news to anyone? ..."
"... CDC has an annual budget of $12 billion. Then there are public health budgets at NIH and other federal, state and counties. ..."
"... How come there was no agreed upon pandemic response plan? If there was, why wasn't it executed? Do public health authorities have a plan now that can be executed? ..."
"... It would appear to me this was a failure across all segments of society. The public because they so easily succumbed to fear. The media for fanning the flames of hysteria. Private healthcare for not providing realistic and alternative views. The government for not executing a coordinated response. ..."
"... dan of Steele - a contributory factor in the death toll in Italy might be the mandatory influenza vaccine. In the autumn/winter 2019, a super influenza vaccine (4 strains in one dose) was administered to old people and health care workers in Italy. Research suggests that influenza vaccine derived virus interference is significantly associated with coronavirus. ..."
"... For some reason, the authorities want COVID-19 to be recognized as The New Black Death. Rising numbers of 'cases' substitute for deaths in order to keep the fear factor high (as far as I can make out) when higher case numbers are an unsurprising consequence of ramped-up testing. There are allegedly high numbers of false positives, and many if not most of the cases uncovered by testing are in people who are asymptomatic or not very sick, certainly not in danger of dying or even having to be hospitalized. ..."
Aug 31, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

"So get this straight – based on the recommendation of doctors Fauci and Birx the US shut down the entire economy based on 9,000 American deaths to the China coronavirus." The Gateway Pundit."

"... the coronavirus fatality rate reported by the liberal mainstream media was completely inaccurate and the actual rate more like a typical seasonal flu – the media was lying again.

Doctors Fauci and Birx were next to push ridiculous and highly exaggerated mortality rates related to the coronavirus:

  1. Dr. Tony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx used the Imperial College Model to persuade President Trump to lock down the ENTIRE US ECONOMY.
  2. The fraudulent model predicted 2.2 million American deaths from the coronavirus pandemic.
  3. The authors of the Imperial College Model shared their findings with the White House Coronavirus task force in early March
  4. Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx then met with President Trump privately and urged him to shut down the US economy and destroy the record Trump economy based on this model

But the Imperial College model Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx pushed was garbage and they recommended the destruction of the US economy using this model." Gateway Pundit

----------

Hmmm ... The Fauci is a god crowd will heap scorn on this but, thing about it. pl

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/shock-report-week-cdc-quietly-updated-covid-19-numbers-9210-americans-died-covid-19-alone-rest-serious-illnesses/


Eric Newhill , 30 August 2020 at 11:17 AM

Yes, Col Lang., as you know, this is what I've been saying for months. It is what the good data and analysis (not that CDC garbage) reveals. However, no one wants to believe the evil capitalist private insurance companies. They think government is far more trustworthy and competent. More of that conditioning of attitude and perception by the powers that be in the plan to implement a big global govt.

The govt could have worked with the insurance companies to understand this thing. Seems like the logical move if you have poor quality data and insurance has good data, and you really believe there is a lethal pandemic on the loose.

Eric Newhill , 30 August 2020 at 05:10 PM

Laura Wilson,

When you are over 75 years old, you are going to succumb to serious underlying conditions covid or no covid. Those who's deaths are being attributed to covid are primarily in that age group. It is disingenuous to create a panic over a virus that almost exclusively contributes (at most) to the deaths of the elderly with underlying serious conditions. Many of those who have died, succumbed to the underlying condition, but incidentally had covid.

Another new report has come out that shows a significant proportion of covid positive tests are showing positive for minuscule viral loads in the system; not enough to cause illness (or serious illness). How many of those elderly that died of underlying conditions fall into that category? Many of the tests show false positives.

This whole thing has been one big scam - and I believe deliberately.

Eric Newhill , 30 August 2020 at 05:15 PM

Actually, Laura, when you are over 75 years old, the risk of dying increases, period. Once you're into the 85 year old and over bucket, which many covid deaths are, you were probably going to die regardless; unless you're a vampire or some other inhuman death defying creature. Is this really news to anyone?

We must look at years of expected life lost, not raw body counts. That approach reveals covid to not be a threat to society.

turcopolier , 30 August 2020 at 06:13 PM

walrus

The numbers are consistent because the strategy has been carefully worked out to have consistent documents. There will not be 20 million COVID cases requiring hospitalization because a high percentage do not get sick. In re the IO, been there done that myself. My question is, which group or constellation of groups is running the op.

rho , 30 August 2020 at 06:44 PM

dan of steele,

"Here in old Europe it seems we are on the verge of a new outbreak. Some people have gone on vacation and the number of daily new cases is on the rise."

The number of daily new cases in Germany has recently doubled because the number of daily tests has also roughly doubled. The share of positive tests among all tests has remained constant at around 1% for 3 months now.

https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/Infekt/EpidBull/Archiv/2020/Ausgaben/35_20.pdf?__blob=publicationFile
(see page 11)

Must be a very strange "new outbreak". The number of Covid patients in the ICUs of German hospitals have been stagnating at a very low level (around 250 patients in the whole country) for several weeks.

https://www.divi.de/joomlatools-files/docman-files/divi-intensivregister-tagesreports/DIVI-Intensivregister_Tagesreport_2020_08_30.pdf
(look at the pink line in the bottom right diagram)

Where are all the sick people that you are so worried about?

Jack , 30 August 2020 at 07:04 PM

All

What has intrigued me about the Wuhan virus is the panicked, off-the-cuff response. A pandemic is not new. We've had several in the recent past. SARS, H1N1, H2N2.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/basics/past-pandemics.html

CDC has an annual budget of $12 billion. Then there are public health budgets at NIH and other federal, state and counties.

How come there was no agreed upon pandemic response plan? If there was, why wasn't it executed? Do public health authorities have a plan now that can be executed?

It would appear to me this was a failure across all segments of society. The public because they so easily succumbed to fear. The media for fanning the flames of hysteria. Private healthcare for not providing realistic and alternative views. The government for not executing a coordinated response.

Money is never the issue in the USA. No one spends like us on healthcare, education, national security. Outcomes are a different matter altogether. Value for money is poor since there's a high "corruption" factor.

We've had many "wars". War on Poverty. War on Drugs. War on Terror. We've spent huge amounts on each. They've all been failures!

Deap , 30 August 2020 at 07:24 PM

Laura, When you get to a certain age, everyday you wake up to most of obituaries being for people younger than yourself. It is a landmark point in one's life.

Before they were all so old. Now they are all so young. And no, they did not die "of covid". The died. Fate played out their final hand. And you ask not for whom the bells toll ............. you just praise every single blessed day that is still yours to enjoy.

182,000 did not die "of covid" in the US. CDC played games with the numbers from day one. The only mystery is why? And why did we let them do this. Because we did - Brix admitted up front on TV they tossed anyone suspected of "covid" into the covid basket.

Any screw up were not facing covid, but overkilling "covid". The leftist cabal made sure no other points of view were allowed. If a covid report did not include or imply OrangemanBad, it never reached the airwaves. Please don't have selective memory problems about any of this. Or else you have come to the wrong place to push them.

So now tell us where the new CDC data is flawed (9K deaths), and why that is justification for believing their prior data is not flawed. (182K deaths)

dan of steele , 30 August 2020 at 07:28 PM

rho

I don't have a dog in this fight. I do hope that one day we will find out what is really going on with this covid-19. I merely look at worldofmeters corona virus page and watch the numbers of new cases, serious cases, and deaths. Those numbers were horrible for Italy for a long time and after months of being locked down hard, the numbers got better.

15 August is a very famous Italian holiday with everyone going to the beach, having picnics, and so on. Oddly enough a week to 10 days later the numbers of new cases went up...quite a bit. Happily the deaths have not gone back to the 1000 a day from the early days but I am holding my breath. In our little village we have 4 active cases and 21 in quarantine. They were infected by people who had gone on vacation somewhere else.

as for Germany, my son lives near Hamburg and he is mostly teleworking and overall they are quite good at implementing good pandemic control measures. Testing was free but I believe they are starting to charge for it again. My brother in law went to Cyprus on his vacation this year and upon return he and his family were all tested.

believe me, I don't want this crap to go on any more than you do. It does not affect me all that much as I am finally retired and have a single family home with a yard. being somewhat of a recluse anyway didn't make it worse.

Deap , 30 August 2020 at 07:31 PM

"New outbreaks" that lead to herd immunity are a good thing; when the death rate remains static or declines. Which is what is happening right now.

As long as every passing day adds more very elderly with 3.5 co-morbidities to the body count, one can assume this flu is taking its normal course through this population demographics.

As it does every single year, since the flu was always previously known as "the old man's friend". Sad, of course. Any death is sad. Very sad.

For reflection on eternal life however, take a look at the Czech opera "The Makropolus Case". The diva lives for 300 years, and when it comes time to take the magic potion again that keeps her eternally alive, she muses about the trials, tribulations and practical burdens of her eternal life.......... and she finally decides to .......?????

Deap , 30 August 2020 at 07:44 PM

Always hate it when media reports a percentage increase - "twice as many cases" -- but never mentions the numbers. 2 case is twice as many as one case. Zut alors! We need new cases to finally reach herd immunity.

Cases are okay. In fact, it is relief we are finally existing outside of this artificial bubble, and at a time we now know a lot more about treatment and to stop killing people with forced ventilator abuse.

Original game plan - flatten the curve - end up with the same numbers of cases, but over a longer period time to ensure health care delivery would not be overwhelmed should they all happen at once. That was the bargain - flatten the curve, but not change the numbers infected.

When did "someone" demand we flat-line the numbers of infections, until they reach absolute zero? Who, what, where, when, how or why did that change?

Will anti-Trump riots after Trump's 2020 re-election push "covid" off the front pages?

Fred , 30 August 2020 at 08:16 PM

Laura,

How many of the 500,000 attendees at Bike Week died of this, it's been three weeks already? How about all those 'mostly peaceful' protests? (Not counting than the two who died of the AR15 virus in Kenosha)

cirsium , 30 August 2020 at 08:28 PM

dan of Steele - a contributory factor in the death toll in Italy might be the mandatory influenza vaccine. In the autumn/winter 2019, a super influenza vaccine (4 strains in one dose) was administered to old people and health care workers in Italy. Research suggests that influenza vaccine derived virus interference is significantly associated with coronavirus.

See https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m810/rr-0
and https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31607599/

Mark , 30 August 2020 at 08:33 PM

For some reason, the authorities want COVID-19 to be recognized as The New Black Death. Rising numbers of 'cases' substitute for deaths in order to keep the fear factor high (as far as I can make out) when higher case numbers are an unsurprising consequence of ramped-up testing. There are allegedly high numbers of false positives, and many if not most of the cases uncovered by testing are in people who are asymptomatic or not very sick, certainly not in danger of dying or even having to be hospitalized.

The WHO admitted publicly that the chief reason it declared a pandemic was that too many countries were - in its opinion - not taking the threat seriously enough. Therefore, even the declaration of a pandemic was for scare value. When COVID-19 was at its peak for infections and deaths, the WHO (Dr. Fauci himself, actually) claimed that medical-grade masks were not necessary for the public, because the WHO deemed it necessary to reserve the supply of masks for medical use. I don't think anyone would disagree that non-medical cloth masks have much less filtration capability. But then Fauci reversed himself, and now a plethora of 'experts' claim it is proven that non-medical cloth masks work to reduce the spread of COVID-19, and there is growing and relentless pressure from the busybody sector to make them mandatory wear in all public settings. Now, when the death rate is steadily dropping. No clinical trials have ever achieved results which demonstrate that cloth masks do anything to stop the spread of an airborne virus - not masks and only masks. Trials in which the subjects regularly washed their hands, avoided touching their faces after touching other surfaces AND wore a mask demonstrated a somewhat reduced infection rate. Tests in which only masks were used showed either a statistically insignificant difference or no difference at all, but were not proper clinical trials as the sample size was comparatively small and the masked group contained a significant number who admitted they did not wear it all the time. But forcing everyone to wear a mask has become a test of will for public authorities against a public in which many do not want to wear them and are afraid compulsory wear will become the norm. Once again, there is NO PROOF that they work, as the theory has never been properly tested, I don't care what 'expert' is telling you the results are in, and masks work.

For those 'COVID warriors' who label all dissenters 'maskholes' and 'Covidiots', cite me a proper clinical trial that establishes masks on their own significantly reduced the infection rate of an airborne virus. That means show me how uninfected people wore a mask and did not take other precautions, in the presence of an infected person (without touching them or handling objects infected people handled) and remained uninfected. While you're at it, find me where the '6-foot rule' came from. Nobody seems to know how that number was arrived upon, the WHO says it did not come from them, and how does it account for different environments such as the presence or absence of wind? People have to stand six feet apart outside while waiting to be allowed in to the grocery store. How does that protect you from an airborne virus that theoretically can only travel six feet in still air?

I am always willing to have my mind changed by actual science. But so far I am not seeing it. Just a lot of politics.

[Aug 31, 2020] We might have to wait forever for science to show the Covid threat is over, so let's use our common sense get back to normal -- RT Op-ed

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... It's time to stop fetishizing scientific methods. We have to accept that there are many elements of Covid-19 that science may never understand and if we wait for it to do so, we will never again be able to live a normal life. ..."
"... Science, if it is working properly, will not come to a conclusion that is wholly wrong. But not everything that is true can be established by a randomized control trial followed by peer review. Take the theory, popularized by Dr John Lee's work in the Spectator , that Covid has become less deadly as it spreads, and is now basically inert. ..."
"... People need to accept this about Covid (and hopefully later, much else) and stop fetishizing the scientific method at times when a bit of common sense would do the job. ..."
"... Consider this article , written by three scientific minds. It is a measured and 'data driven' analysis of whether Covid is becoming less deadly. But is blinkered by an assumption that only official data, no matter how muddled, can be relied upon. All you really need to do is ask doctors whether they are seeing people come in with Covid, or if they are dying of Covid when they do. Instead it focuses on case numbers, which are not worth the paper they are written on. ..."
"... So many people have been so frightened – understandably – by exaggerated accounts of the threat posed by Covid-19, and it will take a lot to persuade them that they have been sold a pup. But they need to be persuaded, so that can get their old lives back. The present regime will never take on this responsibility because it would center on an admission of massive guilt on their part. ..."
"... What is needed now from all sensible people is calm but insistent argument, with friends, relations and authorities alike, for the total abolition of all coronavirus-related restrictions. We saw some of that in London and Berlin over the weekend, and it was fantastic to see such well organized and clear minded dissent against the sinister 'new normal'. ..."
Aug 31, 2020 | www.rt.com

By Peter Andrews , Irish science journalist and writer based in London. He has a background in the life sciences, and graduated from the University of Glasgow with a degree in genetics

It's time to stop fetishizing scientific methods. We have to accept that there are many elements of Covid-19 that science may never understand and if we wait for it to do so, we will never again be able to live a normal life.

The Covid-19 outbreak is largely over, and man's attempts to slow, stop or understand the virus have failed. Science will eventually discover more about the pandemic but it is a slow process.

Science, if it is working properly, will not come to a conclusion that is wholly wrong. But not everything that is true can be established by a randomized control trial followed by peer review. Take the theory, popularized by Dr John Lee's work in the Spectator , that Covid has become less deadly as it spreads, and is now basically inert.

This would perfectly explain why so many people died of Covid-19 in a short period of time, and why deaths have basically flat-lined since April. It fits with many Covid studies confirming fast evolution , different strains and reinfection . Furthermore, a change to the virus itself could explain why the same patterns in deaths have been seen everywhere, irrespective of lockdowns, demographics, contact tracing or any other scheme.

ALSO ON RT.COM Weird science: Covid-19 does NOT cause heart damage, as blockbuster study had basic calculation errors

In fact, with each passing day it is increasingly probable that the virus has mutated to a milder form. The trouble is it would be nigh on impossible to establish this with the instruments of science, now or any time soon. The vagaries of individual human bodies and microscopic particles are just beyond the scope of exact science.

People need to accept this about Covid (and hopefully later, much else) and stop fetishizing the scientific method at times when a bit of common sense would do the job. We are paralysed by a need for the World Health Organization or Public Health England to conjure up some peer-reviewed study or other confirming to 99.9 percent likelihood that we can go back to normal now. That will never happen, but we have to get back to normal.

Consider this article , written by three scientific minds. It is a measured and 'data driven' analysis of whether Covid is becoming less deadly. But is blinkered by an assumption that only official data, no matter how muddled, can be relied upon. All you really need to do is ask doctors whether they are seeing people come in with Covid, or if they are dying of Covid when they do. Instead it focuses on case numbers, which are not worth the paper they are written on.

Here is another paper , co-authored by the brilliant Professor Carl Heneghan of the University of Oxford's Center for Evidence-Based Medicine. He has been tireless in his questioning of the government's interpretation of coronavirus statistics, although it has taken far too long for him to be given any kind of platform from which to address the public.

The study, while no doubt accurate and valuable for establishing fine points of detail, seeks to answer whether the infection fatality ratio has been falling in the UK. A comprehensive review of the limited data suggests that it has, but so what? What does that mean to the average Joe, confused as to whether they should send their child to school in the morning, or whether it would be irresponsible to give their elderly parents a hug?

ALSO ON RT.COM Just wait for a vaccine? First confirmed REINFECTION means there may be no way to eradicate Covid

So many people have been so frightened – understandably – by exaggerated accounts of the threat posed by Covid-19, and it will take a lot to persuade them that they have been sold a pup. But they need to be persuaded, so that can get their old lives back. The present regime will never take on this responsibility because it would center on an admission of massive guilt on their part.

What is needed now from all sensible people is calm but insistent argument, with friends, relations and authorities alike, for the total abolition of all coronavirus-related restrictions. We saw some of that in London and Berlin over the weekend, and it was fantastic to see such well organized and clear minded dissent against the sinister 'new normal'.

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[Aug 27, 2020] The US Justice Department is mulling civil rights investigations of four Democrat-run states whose governors forced elder care homes to take in Covid-19 patients, potentially contributing to thousands of deaths.

Aug 27, 2020 | thenewkremlinstooge.wordpress.com

PATIENT OBSERVER August 26, 2020 at 2:15 pm

And this is also ominous:
https://www.rt.com/usa/499147-justice-dept-nursing-homes-democrats/

he US Justice Department is mulling civil rights investigations of four Democrat-run states whose governors forced elder care homes to take in Covid-19 patients, potentially contributing to thousands of deaths.

The governments of New York, New Jersey, Michigan, and Pennsylvania have been ordered to turn over Covid-19 data to the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division as the agency weighs whether to pursue the probes, according to a statement released on Wednesday. Investigations would be launched under the Civil Rights of Institutionalized Persons Act (CRIPA), a law meant to protect the rights of those living in state-run nursing homes.

Likely the responses will be "We didn't know " or "How could anyone accuse us compassionate/all-caring/liberty-affirming of doing nothing but good ".

Now, there is a campaign weapon the Trump team should wield like a sledge hammer. It will be high quality protein for the us conspiracy-theory folks as well.

ATIENT OBSERVER August 26, 2020 at 2:29 pm

Worth quoting from the above:
All four states' Democratic governors infamously required care homes to admit patients from hospitals without testing them for Covid-19, despite knowing that the virus could – in the now-immortal words of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo – spread through the facilities "like fire through dry grass."

As public outcry grew with awareness of the NY governor's order, Cuomo tried to blame virus-stricken care homes for not disobeying him and refusing Covid-19-positive patients. The order itself was even stealthily deleted from the New York healthcare website amid the outrage.

While Cuomo has tried to defend his policies by arguing New York actually had a lower percentage of deaths in nursing homes than other states, recently-released federal statistics suggest the state dramatically undercounted its care home fatalities by omitting residents who died in hospitals from the totals. While the official tally of 6,600 care home deaths is already the highest in the nation, an AP report earlier this month suggested the real number may be as much as 65 percent higher.

Per the internet, total Covid deaths in New York State is currently about 35,000. Per the above, nearly 11,000 were killed in nursing homes or in hospitals after being infected in nursing homes. Most of those were apparently in the early stages of the pandemic thus perhaps accounting for a majority of the deaths.

Per the internet, over 40% of all fatalities were related to nursing homes nation-wide.

https://www.nytimes.com/svc/oembed/html/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2Finteractive%2F2020%2Fus%2Fcoronavirus-nursing-homes.html

Protect those people who comprise less than 0.4% of the population but who accounted for over 40% of the fatalities. JHC!

MARK CHAPMAN August 26, 2020 at 3:23 pm

I have to say, the behavior of governments in the COVID 'crisis' has been appalling. Formerly polite and reserved Canada is no more, and I would say it is just like America if America had not reached for new levels of bizarre that still just barely edge it out – let's settle for saying Canada is just like America was just before the COVID/BLM/pre-election frenzy of hyperbole. Check this out;

"But Ball went too far. He responded with amendments to the province's Public Health Protection and Promotion Act that looked more like something from a police state than a democracy. The new law suggested inspectors could pull people over, scroll through their cellphones, copy their private information and forcibly perform COVID-19 tests. The law made clear that if two ministers decided that a person had contravened the act, he or she could be imprisoned or expelled from the province without a hearing. The province also began barring non-Newfoundlanders from entering, contrary to the division of powers set out in the Constitution Act, 1867, and without any regard to the interprovincial mobility rights set out under Section 6 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. This unconstitutional order meant that a woman who lived in Nova Scotia -- which was nearly COVID-free -- couldn't attend her mother's funeral."

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/opinion-politicians-receive-low-marks-on-protecting-rights-during-covid

The 'crisis' has encouraged people who could not be trusted to look after your cat while you're in Little Rock to assume limitless powers, to the point where jumped-up jackass 'ministers' have the power to expel you from your province if they determine you have contravened some 'Act' they just made up. If they don't look out, they'll have an armed insurrection on their hands, just like our neighbours – threatening to 'deport' people because they are suspected of spreading a virus that most people have a better than 99% chance of surviving and which global medics are trying to kill by suppression, by denying it victims. Everyone has lost their minds.

There is at the present time not a single soul in the Canadian political stable who is worth the effort of casting a ballot. Democracy is just another word for nothing left to lose. Political parties everywhere should be starved to death the way they are trying to starve the coronavirus – by waking up to find the entire electorate stayed home and not a single vote was cast. It'll never happen, because too many people are sheep and buy that 'change is coming' bullshit that accompanies every election the way flies swarm on dung. But 'democracy' has descended too deep into farce to be saved.

PATIENT OBSERVER August 26, 2020 at 3:51 pm

It has happened so fast! One must assume that there is a renewing reservoir of people with a propensity to become petty tyrants when it was safe and the opportunity was there to do so. What a profoundly sick society!

However, I will vote and vote for Trump. Heck, I might even put a Trump in 2020, 2024 and 2028 sign in my yard (although we live at the end of a dead end street so hardy anyone will see it). Why? If this country is heading for a civil war, lets get it on.

[Aug 22, 2020] One thing that is definitely Not Happening is the psychopaths in both parties, the media, the medical mafia, Wall Street, and corporations taking responsibility for their crime spree and fraud.

Aug 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

No Friend Of The Devil , says: August 20, 2020 at 8:48 pm GMT

One thing that is definitely Not Happening is the psychopaths in both parties, the media, the medical mafia, Wall Street, and corporations taking responsibility for their crime spree and fraud.

Now the medical community has been fully exposed to be less legitimate than crack dealers, because at least crack dealers are not pretending to cure people like the medical mafia is all based on blatant scientific fraud!

Now that these evil fraudulent psychopaths have totally destroyed the lives of hundreds of millions locking the country down resulting in people losing their businesses, jobs, homes, and apartments let Nuremburg 2 trials begin!

[Aug 21, 2020] Fauci and neoliberalized medical community which, due to neoliberal cult of greed, more and more reminds a gang of creepy criminals

Notable quotes:
"... the government is owned by finance people. I guess we can't really stop them from using the money to pay for military stuff but the idea that any of this has any relationship to what's good or bad for "Americans" has been proven to be a complete crock of bull. ..."
"... We are all basically squatters in the parking lot of a shopping mall living in RVs and eating whatever food they sell at the nearest convenience store. That's all America is for me these days. ..."
Aug 21, 2020 | www.unz.com

No Friend Of The Devil , says: August 20, 2020 at 8:48 pm GMT

One thing that is definitely Not Happening is the psychopaths in both parties, the media, the medical mafia, Wall Street, and corporations taking responsibility for their crime spree and fraud.

Now the medical community has been fully exposed to be less legitimate than crack dealers, because at least crack dealers are not pretending to cure people like the medical mafia is all based on blatant scientific fraud!

American Citizen 2.0 , says: August 21, 2020 at 3:41 pm GMT
@No Friend Of The Devil ree-for-all for cash where you don't even have to be a US citizen to get benefits anymore What exactly is the point of having a military other than it's just another way to spend loads of cash. I definitely wouldn't support any kind of war on behalf of "American Interests" now.

We have been swamped by illegal immigrants and the government is owned by finance people. I guess we can't really stop them from using the money to pay for military stuff but the idea that any of this has any relationship to what's good or bad for "Americans" has been proven to be a complete crock of bull.

We are all basically squatters in the parking lot of a shopping mall living in RVs and eating whatever food they sell at the nearest convenience store. That's all America is for me these days.

[Aug 02, 2020] Fauci and bullsh*t

Aug 02, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Contrary to claims by the media and the ego maniac Dr. Fauci about a tidal wave of Covid infections, I have first hand, albeit anecdotal evidence, that there is a lot of bullshit surrounding reports of people who have "tested" positive for Covid.

[Aug 01, 2020] Trump administration overspent on ventilators by as much as $500 million, Democrats' report says

Aug 01, 2020 | www.msn.com

WASHINGTON -- An investigation released Friday by House Democrats says President Donald Trump's administration overpaid by up to $500 million on ventilators as the coronavirus pandemic first struck the United States.

Click to expand 00:00 00:47 Fauci optimistic on COVID-19 vaccine availability

In a review of thousands of pages of internal administration documents, Democrats on the House Oversight Committee said Phillips North America was contracted to deliver 43,000 ventilators to the federal government for a significantly higher price than it did under previous contracts for functionally identical ventilator models delivered under contracts dating to President Barack Obama's administration.

Donald Trump wearing a suit and tie: President Donald Trump speaks during a news conference at the White House. © Evan Vucci, AP Images President Donald Trump speaks during a news conference at the White House.

"The American people got ripped off, and Donald Trump and his team got taken to the cleaners," said Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi, D-Ill., whose subcommittee led the investigation. "The Trump Administration's mishandling of ventilator procurement for the nation's stockpile cost the American people dearly during the worst public health crisis of our generation."

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Democrats called for Phillips to return the amount of money they said the government was overcharged.

More: Trump praises Jim Jordan and Anthony Fauci after they clashed during coronavirus hearing

More: Biggest coronavirus vaccine deal yet: $2.1 billion to Sanofi/GSK for up to 100 million doses

Phillips denied the report's findings, saying the company did not raise prices in relation to the pandemic, and argued the increased price of the ventilators actually represented a "discount."

Frans van Houten, CEO of Royal Philips, said in a statement the company did "not recognize the conclusions in the subcommittee's report, and we believe that not all the information that we provided has been reflected in the report."

"I would like to make clear that at no occasion has Philips raised prices to benefit from the crisis situation," van Houten said.

According to Phillips, the list price of the ventilator ordered under the contract is $21,000 and was supplied to the Trump administration for $15,000, which the company called a "discount" given the rushed production schedule.

More: How ventilators work and why COVID-19 patients need them to survive coronavirus

The report, however, disagreed with Phillips' claim. A functionally identical ventilator was delivered to the Obama administration under a 2014 contract for $3,280. Based on the report's review of purchases between December 2019 and May 2020, other small purchasers, even those that purchased only one ventilator of the same model, secured them for as low as $9,327.

"No American purchaser paid more than the U.S. government," the report said.

White House Deputy Press Secretary Judd Deere told USA TODAY in a statement the report was "misleading and inaccurate."

"Because of the President's leadership, the United States leads the world in the production and acquisition of ventilators. No American who needed a ventilator was denied one, and no American who needs a ventilator in the future will be denied one."

Department of Health and Human Services spokesperson Ryan Murphy said the Trump administration's efforts ensured the "federal government procured enough equipment to care for all hospitalized patients in the United States who needed a ventilator for respiratory support related to COVID-19 infections."

Some of the ventilators ordered under the contract were already in use to treat COVID-19 patients, he added.

Murphy declined to comment on an ongoing contract, but said HHS follows "all Federal Acquisition Regulations for Strategic National Stockpile contracting efforts."

The Trump administration has frequently touted the production of ventilators as evidence of its response to the coronavirus pandemic.

"When you look at the United States response, you look at the fact that we were supposed to have a ventilator shortage. In fact, we had a ventilator surplus," White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany said at a Friday briefing.

Phillips had first signed a contract with the Obama administration to deliver 100,000 ventilators in the event of a pandemic by June 2019, but the delivery date was pushed back, eventually to June 2021, as the company missed deadlines, the report said. Phillips approached the Trump administration about moving up the delivery date in January 2020, when the first coronavirus cases were reported in the United States, but the Trump administration ignored the offer, according to the report.

Then, in March 2020, the Trump administration agreed to extend the ventilator delivery deadline to September 2022, but did not ask Phillips to produce more ventilators or move up delivery times. Instead, in April 2020, the Trump administration negotiated a new contract with Phillips to deliver 43,000 ventilators at a price of $15,000 per ventilator.

According to the report's review of documents, "the Administration accepted Philips' first offer without even trying to negotiate a lower price."

According to emails released by the committee, White House trade adviser Peter Navarro, who served as the lead negotiator with Phillips, offered to prepay half of the total cost, or over $323 million, to Phillips before a single ventilator was even delivered. Department of Health and Human Services staff later reduced the amount prepaid to 10% of the total cost of the contract, or about $65 million.

This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: Trump administration overspent on ventilators by as much as $500 million, Democrats' report says


[Jul 31, 2020] N95 masks are not all "vented to breathe straight out without filtration." Not those intended for medical use, for certain

Jul 31, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

AntiSpin , Jul 30 2020 19:55 utc | 7

@ the disinformationists posting @ #1 and #2

N95 Masks DO WORK, and the Proof is Available All Over the Net!

There has been so much oh-so-earnest and so much oh-so-authoritarian nonsense bruited about on this site about the non-effectiveness of the N95 masks that it's getting really, really disgusting. It also calls into question either the honesty (trolls?) or the intelligence of those who could so easily have just looked up the information from, and about, the inventor of the N95, Dr. Peter Tsai.

If they had done just that little bit of research, they would have discovered that the N95 works because of an inner layer of plastic fiber that carries an electro-static charge that attracts and destroys the virus, and that can be cleansed and sterilized for re-use by a number of different techniques.

Please do not believe any of the contra-factual and sometimes dangerous nonsense being spewed about by people who don't know what the hell they're talking about.

Oh, and N95 masks are not all "vented to breathe straight out without filtration." Not those intended for medical use, for certain. There are some vented N95 masks that are intended for firefighters and other non-medical usages, and not for protection against viruses. And as you can see below, the electric charge attracts even sub-micron particles, so the idea that the mask cannot trap viruses because they're too small is simply more nonsense from uninformed and/or deviously motivated individuals.

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Here's just a small sample of information that's easily found all over the net:

Brief bio: Peter Tsai, Ph.D.
Employment: Research faculty, Joint Institute of Advanced Materials, The University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Expertise: Development of meltblowing (MB) systems and the electrostatic charging (EC) of materials for making air filter electrets. The MB and the EC developed by Tsai have been used in the industries worldwide making tens of billions of pieces of N95 respirators or face masks. He has received three prestigious awards from UT in recognition of his contribution to technology innovation. Tsai is a Fellow Member of American Filtration and Separation Society and a member of Electrostatic Society of America.
https://utrf.tennessee.edu/information-faqs-charged-filtration-material-performance-after-various-sterilization-techniques/
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Peter Tsai and the Electrostatic Filter Mask
https://engineeringethicsblog.blogspot.com/2020/04/peter-tsai-and-electrostatic-filter-mask.html
"Prof. Tsai's innovation was to find a way to take a cold pre-fabricated mat of non-woven material and subject it to two electric discharges of opposite polarity, one after the other. Under the right conditions, this process embedded quasi-permanent electric charges into the plastic fibers and made them very attractive to even sub-micron particles, like the 100-nanometer-diameter SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19. The charge is durable and will persist even if the masks are sterilized with steam, according to a new article that Prof. Tsai just put up on a University of Tennessee website.'
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The retired inventor of N95 masks is back at work, mostly for free, to fight covid-19
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2020/07/07/peter-tsai-n95-mask-covid/
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More technical information for those curious enough:
https://aim.autm.net/public/project/53844/

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Finally, let's dispense with a couple of other oh-so-popular misconceptions:
"Q: Do face masks cause oxygen deficiency?
"A: The prolonged use of medical masks when properly worn, does not cause oxygen deficiency nor CO2 intoxication, according to WHO. Make sure your face covering fits properly and that it is tight enough to allow you to breathe normally.
" 'This is a common misconception being perpetuated that has no evidence behind it,' said Krutika Kuppalli, a Palo Alto infectious disease doctor and a biosecurity fellow with the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.

"Q: Does wearing a face covering put you at risk for carbon dioxide poisoning?
"A: No. CO2 molecules diffuse easily through everything from bandannas to medical masks to N95 respirators, allowing for normal breathing."
Aidin Vaziri. San Francisco Chronicle


uncle tungsten , Jul 30 2020 21:14 utc | 17

Thanks b. The mask - a simple and elegant precaution in high risk environments. But so much foaming hysteria and opposition from pumped up nay sayers its just like the response to the early motor car or the mandatory seat belt. Extraordinary, hyperventilated nonsense and inflamed debating points.

I assume this noise is to distract from calling it by its proper name - Fort Detrick Flu.

Peter AU1 , Jul 30 2020 21:59 utc | 23

Yankistan IQ

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/louie-gohmert-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-donald-trump/12506114
""It's really ironic, because a lot of people have made a big deal out of my not wearing a mask a lot. But in the last week or two, I have worn a mask more than I have in the whole last four months."

Mr Gohmert then wondered if his mask was to blame for contracting COVID-19.

"But I can't help but wonder if my keeping a mask on and keeping it in place, that if I might have put some germs or some of the virus onto the mask and breathed it in -- I don't know. But I got it, we'll see what happens from here, but the reports of my demise are very premature," he said."

The 'mask'.
https://am23.mediaite.com/tms/cnt/uploads/2020/07/louie-gohmert-mask-coronavirus-positive.jpg

dp , Jul 30 2020 21:59 utc | 24

about a decade ago there was outbreak of TB in Seattle I was a nurse at the time. We were told by infection disease at the time if we were to see TB patients we had to wear an individually fitted respirator... every nurse was fitted and red pepper was sprayed around the masks to test the fit. I couldn't wear one ... and was told I could wear a surgical mask but that it would only provide about 30 min of protection and then I would need a new mask... Now tell me why me way a fashion mask, a bandanna or scarf can protect me or another from a virus (which is much smaller than a TB bacteria?
I just drove from coast to coast across the US. I avoided large cities and felt perfectly comfortable with social distancing. I was in two states that never had a "true" lock down and no mask mandates,,,, and you know what people weren't dropping like flies, people weren't afraid... they were just acting respectful to one another"s personal space.

John Iacovelli , Jul 30 2020 22:03 utc | 25

Let's see now... we have an aerosolized pathogen; shades of the discussion in 2001 regarding weaponized Antrax! We have, seemingly, a very low number of mutations; it's either been out there or cultured for some time. No one has any 100% accurate test; the test criteria of Koch's Postulates seem to have been forgotten or ignored. In the dearth of trustworthy data, the deluge of untrustworthy data, and the general level of greed-generated-mistrust towards all western societal organizations, no one in the general public has the proper knowledge to make life-or-death decisions concerning themselves or their families. Perhaps, rather than the "Trump flu" that the partisan-oriented commenter proposed previously, if a large group of people called it instead the "Fort Detrick Flu," western governments might be persuaded to seek and/or spread truthful data.

Lurk , Jul 30 2020 22:24 utc | 29

@ dp | Jul 30 2020 21:59 utc | 24

The purpose of the mask is to stop (asymptomatic) carriers of the disease from spreading it, or at least dramatically reduce the spreading. The mask limits outgoing aerosols, not incoming ones.

Moreover, rural areas where people spend a lot of time outdoors and generally meet only a limited amount of different people are much less likely to be affected by the initial phase of a pandemic than densely populated cities where most people spend most of their days closely packed with numerous other random people in badly ventilated indoor places such as offices, factories, subways.

Roberto , Jul 30 2020 23:19 utc | 34

Dear friends and foes,

on "benefits" of masking:

1) https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00392-020-01704-y
2) https://fortune.com/2020/07/29/no-point-in-wearing-mask-sweden-covid/
3) Belarus no mask no lockdown....then they get very nice numbers.

On panic:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8373857/Norways-PM-admits-closed-schools-nurseries-fear.html

On lockdown:

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/490659-ferguson-undermined-uk-lockdown/

Best regards to you all

Un gran abrazo a todos desde Chile

[Jul 27, 2020] Fauci- Some messages from Trump's task force don't match reports from 'trenches'

Jul 27, 2020 | www.msn.com

During an in-depth interview that will air Tuesday night on ABC News as part of a primetime special, "American Catastrophe: How Did We Get Here?," Fauci was pressed to explain why, months after COVID-19 first reached U.S. soil, the U.S. government is still struggling to provide adequate testing for Americans and sufficient personal protective gear for essential workers.

"We keep hearing when we go to these task force meetings that these [issues] are being corrected," Fauci said. "But yet when you go into the trenches, you still hear about that."

Fauci said he does not have a "good answer" and "cannot explain" the discrepancy, especially since those matters are not part of his "day-by-day" responsibilities, but part of the problem stems from the fact that "many of the things that we needed were not produced in the United States."

The U.S. government ended up competing for those materials with other nations stricken by the pandemic, and the White House ultimately had to invoke emergency powers to push U.S. companies to help.

Those challenges were exacerbated by what Fauci admitted were early missteps on testing by the Centers for Disease Control, which developed tests that "didn't work" initially because – it turned out – their results were based on potentially contaminated samples. That forced the federal government to further rely private companies.

Asked about any missteps he may have made himself – including initially telling the public that the average American didn't need to wear a mask – he said such decisions were "based on the information at the moment."

[Jul 26, 2020] Fauci critics are taken from the air: Sinclair pulls interview with 'Plandemic' conspiracy theorist after CNN-backed outrage campaign

Jul 26, 2020 | www.rt.com

25 Jul, 2020 21:42 / Updated 11 hours ago Get short URL Screenshot © Twitter/ @WeAreSinclair 126 1 Follow RT on RT Sinclair Broadcast Group, the US' largest local news conglomerate, has canceled an interview with a coronavirus conspiracy theorist, after CNN whipped up an online outrage campaign against the conservative broadcaster.

In a segment due to air this weekend, 'America This Week' host Eric Bolling sat down with Dr Judy Mikovits, a disgraced scientist who believes that the coronavirus pandemic was orchestrated by National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases head Dr Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates to push vaccines on the population – a theory she set out in the documentary film 'Plandemic,' which has been effectively censored off the internet.

ALSO ON RT.COM CNN outraged at Sinclair-owned local news stations for interviewing doctor at heart of 'Plandemic' conspiracy theory

Bolling called Mikovits' claims "hefty," and brought on medical contributor Dr Nicole Saphier to refute them, but CNN claimed the host didn't push back hard enough against Mikovits' "baseless conspiracy theory," and hammered Bolling for allowing Mikovits to "continue to make her case."

As CNN's article circulated on Twitter on Saturday morning, the network's liberal audience called for a boycott of Sinclair. The broadcaster initially stood by its decision to run the segment, declaring that "at no juncture are we aligning with or endorsing the viewpoints of Dr Mikovits."

However, within an hour, Sinclair bent the knee and pulled the episode from the air until additional content could be added to counter Mikovits. "All stations have been notified not to air this and will instead be re-airing last week's episode in its place," Sinclair tweeted. For good measure, the company added "we valiantly support Dr Fauci and the work he and his team are doing to further prevent the spread of Covid-19."

https://platform.twitter.com/embed/index.html?creatorScreenName=RT_com&dnt=false&embedId=twitter-widget-0&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=true&id=1287110687093714944&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fusa%2F495871-sinclair-cancels-plandemic-conspiracy%2F&siteScreenName=RT_com&theme=light&widgetsVersion=9066bb2%3A1593540614199&width=550px

Sinclair is an incredibly powerful organization to have been swayed by an online outrage campaign. The company and its partner organizations own nearly 300 local TV stations around the country, and reach 40 percent of American households.

Proponents of the boycott celebrated their victory on Twitter, declaring that "we shamed them into doing the right thing."

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Amid a recent upsurge in 'cancel culture,' few campaigns have brought a company to its knees as fast as Saturday's blitz by CNN. Similar campaigns have been mounted against Fox News' Tucker Carlson – with an advertiser boycott and attempts by journalists to doxx his family among the most recent moves, but Carlson remains on the air and unapologetic.

For Bolling and his colleagues at Sinclair on the other hand, it's back to the studio to reshoot their offending segment at CNN's behest.

[Jul 21, 2020] That is only the *valved* masks. Non-valved medical masks do not breath out freely

Jul 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Richard Steven Hack , Jul 20 2020 4:06 utc | 64

@ james | Jul 19 2020 18:35 utc | 20 they are designed to breathe out freely

That is only the *valved* masks. Non-valved medical masks do not breath out freely. See here.

More factual information from 3M here: (PDF).

The real problem is masks that don't measure up. This article says half of the masks manufactured in China don't actually capture 95% of particles. Since all of my masks are from China, that is concerning to me. However, even if a mask only does 50%, that's still better than most non-respirator masks.

As for health issues from wearing masks... here's the scoop on that. In short - no, they don't.

Further">https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/whats-the-difference-between-n95-and-kn95-masks/">Further discussion on Chinese KN95 masks - *if made properly*, they are just as good as American N95 masks.

The Smart Air company has a number of good articles on masks for use with the pandemic. I recommend reading them.

[Jul 21, 2020] Mask-wearing obligatory in confined public spaces in France from today

Jul 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

willie , Jul 20 2020 7:20 utc | 86

Mask-wearing obligatory in confined public spaces in France from today .Initially announced by Macron in his july 14th speech for the first of August,but over the weekend Health minister said it is in application from this monday 2 july.Fine is 135 euros.This will lead to more gigs cancelled,unless they are in the street.How can one sing masked?
Well,I tried wearing one saturday,but it is a sloppy experience and I don't think I will wear one correctly,it hangs down from my nose,it is to escape french fines.Before people start insulting me for that,i have to tell you that I see practically nobody,apart from going to supermarket once a week....

Richard Steven Hack , Jul 20 2020 3:27 utc | 60

@ Perimetr | Jul 19 2020 17:09 utc | 10

I pointed out that cloth masks were ineffective relative to N95 months ago here. The hierarchy is N100, N99, N95, surgical masks, then anything else. There is a reduction of maybe 25% in effectiveness per level (except for the N masks.) T-shirts are almost useless, having an effectiveness of maybe 10-15%.

*Doesn't mean they shouldn't be worn.*

People don't seem to understand that avoiding infection is a game of probabilities. It's not a binary either-or situation. Anything you can do to impede the progress of a viral load from the environment to your vulnerable surfaces is worth doing if it's practical. Wearing a mask is practical.

Minor repeated reductions in oxygen or increases in carbon dioxide is not going to kill you and is unlikely to have long-term physical effects. And there's a good chance that eventually we'll stop wearing them once the virus has been reduced in the environment.

Asians have been wearing masks frequently for a long time. Health workers wear masks frequently for extended periods. Cite a study where that has had long-term negative health effects.

[Jul 21, 2020] The COVID-19 peak death rate occurred the week of April 11- 18

Jul 21, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

The COVID-19 peak death rate occurred the week of April 11- 18

"But there is a graph here that if I explain this properly, it'll make sense to you. This is from the Centers for Disease Control. And it is death counts attributable to COVID-19 through July 11th. The week ending July 11th, which is the most recent date for data. They run about, you know, a week to two weeks behind here.

So throw the chart up. This is by age. All sexes by age. So if you look at the top line, the red line, the very top, that is the week ending April 11th. You can't see this on the chart. Go ahead and put the chart up there, Brian, switch it over. The top line is red. You can't even probably tell that. But, trust me. The top-most line is red, and it occurs on April the 11th. That is the peak death rate, and it's probably about 6,000 . I don't know in what interval that this thing is reporting.

Probably Eh, it's in a week. The key is to go all the way over to the right side. You see the peak of death rates was April the 11th. It isn't now. The peak death rate was April 11. That red line is people 85 years and older. The line under it is people 75 to 84. That's the yellow line. The blue line underneath that is people 65 to 74. We're under 4,000 now in a week. So the top line is people 85 and older.

If you go to the This is where I'm not gonna There are two reds, but you can't tell the difference in them. Just trust me. Let's move to the far-right side of the chart. That's July 11th, and you'll see that the death rate is not even 500, right now, per week -- CDC -- in all ages, in all demographics, says the CDC. We're not at peak death rate. The peak death rate was April the 11th to April the 18th." Limbaugh

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But, what would Fauci say? pl

scott s. | 21 July 2020 at 11:05 AM

I see now we are being encouraged to ignore "death rate" as unimportant. What we are told to panic about is a higher incidence of "positives" among population under 40 years of age. This population apparently doesn't have as bad an outcome (hospitalization/death) and that's "bad" because they don't get contact traced and thus have "community spread".

I just love how AP/NYT and local journos all quote seemingly random "experts" with no discussion of just what their "expertise" consists of, other than perhaps a credential (and the relevance of the credential to the "expert statement" (more correctly opinion) is never provided).

At least Fauci has some standing.

Eric Newhill | 21 July 2020 at 11:18 AM


Sir,
Yes. You are thinking right about Cuomo murdering the elderly that cost the state so much money - many having the homes and medical treatment paid for by Medicaid (Medicare only pays for 30 days). Only it wasn't just Cuomo it was also Witmer in Michigan and Murphy in New Jersey. They killed off the costly elderly and got the bonus of more deaths to raise the fear of the virus and gain subsequent control over the lives of citizens + via twisted logic, try to give Trump a black eye. Those govs are are morally sick people. It is a no brainer, if you care about the elderly, to not place people with what you believe is a deadly highly contagious virus in homes full of elderly infirm people. I mean what is there to even consider or weigh about that decision?

Had those murderers handled the nursing homes correctly (like Florida did) the virus would have been a lot less deadly.

Btw, with regard to schools re-opening, note that the line of the graph for school and college age people is basically synonymous with the X-axis; meaning they didn't die from the virus even at its peak lethality.

Jim | 21 July 2020 at 02:47 PM

To know what Fauci [don't wear a mask it don't help; wear a mask it helps] would say, let's look at how Aristotle would help us elucidate this answer.

Q: What can one conclude from [the mouth of] the liar [Fauci]?

A: Answer: nothing
Absolutely Nothing.
+++++++++++++++
And on this basis, from his mouth, our national "pandemic" "strategy" was thus formulated, from Mr. Nothing aka Fauci.

And onto more black humor, and the wearing a mask as virtue signalling -- since they can only slow down by at most ten minutes any disease transmission of the novel coronvirus, there is this "gem" spoken by someone who apparently believes the mask kool aid? I D K . . . --and for me at least, his essay, Attorney Jonathan Turley, was funny to read, irrespective of whether that was his intent:

[[There is a new form of protests sweeping across the country as individuals put on anti-Mask masks to defy mandatory mask rules. The anti-masks are made of thin material, mesh or even crochet and are advertised as having no protective qualities for Covid-19. The question is whether they are legal. They appear to be so.]]


https://jonathanturley.org/2020/07/18/are-anti-mask-masks-legal/

[Jul 21, 2020] Alarmist Fauci rejects his proper nickname

Trump has penchant to sticky nicknames ;-)
The the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases was actually on sidelines and did not yet contribute anything signigicat in understadning this coronavirus
The level of subservience of Fauci to Big Pharma is open for review
Jul 21, 2020 | www.msn.com

WASHINGTON -- Dr. Anthony Fauci on Monday rejected President Donald Trump's recent criticism of him in which he called the infectious disease expert an "alarmist."

... Fauci warned last week that the coronavirus pandemic could be as bad as the 1918 flu pandemic, which is estimated to have killed at least 50 million people worldwide. He also warned late last month that the number of COVID-19 cases could top 100,000 a day.

[Jul 20, 2020] Are asymptomatic cases just false positives or they are a short stage of the disease (and it is unlear if at this stage person cantranmit the virus to others) after which it became regular, symptomatic case ?

Jul 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

m , Jul 20 2020 7:09 utc | 83

Is the high share of 70% asymptomatic cases really confirmed?? The last time I heard something about that isue it whas claimed to be 15-20% with no evidence for high numbers of undiscovered asymtomatic cases. The extensive testing with a low percantege of positives seems to confirm this.

If the asymptomatic cases were really around 2/3 then this would mean the number of real cases is much higher the the number of officially counted cases, by the factor of 3 roughly.

[Jul 20, 2020] For anyone who has forgotten, Fauci told 60 Minutes that "There's no reason to be walking around with a mask"

And this Big Pharma stooge was right: in open spaces unless you are inthe dence coud there is no reason to wear any mask
Notable quotes:
"... No – for a solid hour, I heard the following: that COVID19 – in reality, at most, a moderately serious flu virus – is the worst medical threat the United States has ever faced. ..."
Jul 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Blue Dotterel , Jul 20 2020 9:13 utc | 96

For anyone who has forgotten, Fauci told 60 Minutes that:

There's no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think it is. And often there are unintended consequences – people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face."

But he does make an astute point:

"Recently I had the poor judgment to turn on National Public Radio for about an hour, under the impression that I was going to learn something about the day’s news.
...
No – for a solid hour, I heard the following: that COVID19 – in reality, at most, a moderately serious flu virus – is the worst medical threat the United States has ever faced.
...
But the real theme of the hour was masks, masks, masks: how to make them, how to wear them, their different types, who doesn’t seem to have enough of them, and why muffling our faces (even though no such thing was ever demanded of us during dozens of past viral outbreaks) is absolutely, positively good for us all."

[Jul 18, 2020] Stockman- The Clown Cars Are Fully Loaded And Dr. Fauci s Is Leading The Parade -

Jul 18, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Stockman: The Clown Cars Are Fully Loaded And Dr. Fauci's Is Leading The Parade by Tyler Durden Sat, 07/18/2020 - 11:30 Twitter Facebook Reddit Email Print

Authored by David Stockman via Contra Corner blog,

When it comes to the topic of clown cars, we'd say Dr. Fauci gets a limo version all to himself...

Yesterday he uttered the following incoherent babble, saying the recent surge in new cases is because the Virus Patrol didn't go far enough in throwing 50 million Americans out of work:

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'We did not shut down entirely,' Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said. 'We need to draw back a few yards and say, "OK, we can't stay shut down forever." You've got to shut down but then you've got to gradually open.'

Got that?

What does this pretentious old windbag think - that the blooming, buzzing mass of a $21 trillion economy can be calibrated up and down by the week via some magical dimmer switch?

Never mind because he was then on to this preposterous comparison:

Fauci also said he expects the public to compare the Covid-19 pandemic to the 1918 pandemic flu, which killed around 50 million people, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Well, it so happens that the US death rate from the Spanish Flu was 655 per 100,000 persons (675,000 deaths in a population of 103 million). That's obviously orders of magnitude larger than the 39 per 100,000 deaths to date from the Covid.

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In fact, the impact of the Spanish Flu was not only 17X greater in terms of the overall mortality rate, but it was also a true Grim Reaper in the sense that it struck across the entire age spectrum of the population (dark blue bars).

It actually started in the giant domestic military training compounds stood up by Woodrow Wilson to join a European war that was none of America's business, but the virus did kill tens of thousands of 18-30 year-old draftees in their own barracks long before they got to the killing fields of France.

By contrast, as we now surely understand, and you would think Fauci would, too, the Covid (light blue bars) is primarily a harvester of elderly persons already struggling with life-threatening respiratory, heart, vascular, renal and diabetic illnesses.

Accordingly, among the 191 million Americans under the age of 45 years, there have been only 1.5 WITH-Covid deaths per 100,000, while for the elderly, the opposite is true. Nearly 70,000 or more than 60 percent of all WITH-Covid death have been among the 75 years and older population, resulting in mortality rates as follows:

Now, you don't need to take a single class in epidemiology to understand a core truth: That is, when nearly 60 percent of the population under 45 years accounts for only 2.5 percent of the reported WITH-Covid deaths and has a rounding error mortality rate, while the 6.5 percent of the population 75 years and older accounts for 60 percent of the deaths -- you don't fight the disease with a one-size-fits all strategy of generic lockdowns, quarantines, and social regimentation.

And surely you don't shutdown the schools, gyms, bars, restaurants, movies, ball games, concerts, beaches, theme parks etc. because the vulnerable elderly don't patronize these venues in appreciable numbers anyway, and could easily be warned to stay strictly away.

The key point, however, is that this whole unspeakable Lockdown Folly does not remotely stem from the "science", as the MSM supporters of Fauci claim.

It's just a hair-brained experiment in social control that happened because the Donald was too weak, ill-informed, distracted, and innumerate to send Fauci and his camarilla of doctors and vaccine-peddlers packing when the mid-March guidelines were first issued by the CDC.

Yes, the Donald's political enemies in the ranks of big city mayors and Blue State governors have feasted upon the chum Fauci & Co have persistently tossed into the fetid waters of national politics, but that doesn't let Trump off the hook.

If the truth be told, this is the Trump Lockdown Folly and ranks among the greatest blunders ever committed by a US President. That's because even at this late date nearly four months into the resulting economic disaster:

Yet, the twin pillars of Fauci's hare-brained social regimentation scheme assumes they very opposite: Namely, that healthy Americans must be put under house arrest because they are silent spreaders and killers of their fellow citizens; and that the disease is so virulent that its #1 enemy -- the powerful immune system of every healthy American -- cannot be trusted to do its job if the virus is permitted to follow its natural course of contagion and eventual herd immunity.

As to the silent spreaders trope, here is how the very head of WHO's COVID-19 Task Force, Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, recently explained that transmission of the virus from asymptomatic patients appears to be very rare:

It still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual."

For crying out loud. That knocks the very rationale for stay-at-home orders to hundreds of millions of healthy citizens into a cocked hat.

In a constitutional democracy, where the liberties and properties of citizens are protected by law, you need overwhelming proof of an existential threat to society before ordering mass house arrests. But in this instance, the head of the WHO task force–the agency that fomented the whole coronavirus hysteria in the first place–has said quite unequivocally: No cigar!

In a word, Dr. Fauci is peddling dangerous humbug under the banner of pseudo-science, and should have been shut-up and forced into retirement long ago. The unfortunate truth, however, is that the Donald is too chicken to use the Fake "your fired" tool that made him a short-lived TV star, if not a successful businessman.

His defenders, of course, mumble that his hands are tied because Fauci is a member of the legally protected Senior Executive Service (SES). That's Jimmy Carter's gift to insubordinate bureaucracy, which your editor happily voted against back in the day -- but the excuse is poppycock.

Under Federal law, Fauci can be fired if he is found to have engaged in --

misconduct, neglect of duty, malfeasance, or failure to accept a direct reassignment or to accompany a position in a transfer of function", is or to be "less than successful [in his] executive performance.

If not "malfeasance", what would you call the absolute savaging of the livelihoods and life's work of tens of millions of American workers and small businessmen for no good reason of state, which have resulted from Fauci's idiotic pronouncements and guidelines?

The thing is, after four months Fauci's blatherings and instructions to state and local authorities have fomented an outright public Hysteria of biblical proportions.

It is not just that officialdom has closed restaurants and gyms via unconstitutional "takings" of their owners' properties. By now, Fauci's Virus Patrol and its megaphones and misanthropes in the MSM have rendered large portions of the American public fearful about leaving their own homes.

And, needless to say, they have also given the Donald's legions of rabid political enemies license to stage malign theatrics in the name of Covid-fighting that would be unthinkable under any other circumstances.

For instance, it has now been announced that the school districts of Los Angeles and San Diego, which collectively serve nearly one million students, will not have in-person teaching to start the school year.

But if you are conversant with any facts at all, you can only sputter: WTF!

There are nine million school age children in California, and not a single WITH-Covid death has occurred among them.

That's right. There have been 27,400 positive tests among these nine million kids, but all of them, positively all of them, have been either asymptomatic or mildly ill -- as children are wont to become -- and have recovered.

Yet here is where America's growing fleet of clown cars comes in. It seems that the politicization has gone so far off the deep end that the LA teachers union–35,000 strong -- is now taking the schools hostage for their own parochial ends.

They recently proclaimed that no schools should open in LA until there is a Charter School freeze; the police are defunded; Medicare-for-all is adopted by the US Congress; new state taxes on the wealthy are enacted; and there is a Federal bailout of the LA school district.

You can't make this stuff up. And while they were taking the children hostage in the name of Covid-fighting, they also insisted that the already dysfunctional schools of LA become completely pointless:

The union outlined numerous major provisions it says will be necessary to reopen schools again, including sequestering students in small groups throughout the school day, providing students with masks and other forms of protective equipment, and re-designing school layouts in order to facilitate 'social distancing.'

Of course, the latest outbursts of this kind of mindless social destruction has been fueled by the absolute mendacity of the Virus Patrol and its MSM megaphones with respect to the so-called outbreak of new cases in the Sun Belt states.

But the whole brouhaha is a crock. There is no public health crisis in the so-called hot spots, as the up-to-date chart below makes abundantly clear.

Yes, the 42-day trend of "new cases" has risen sharply in tandem with far more testing, and repeat testing of the same individuals -- outcomes that were inherent in re-opening plans, which required employers to have their employees tested as a condition of operating.

But, alas, the death count trend in these 50 counties has not risen at all - except for the last few days when a lot of "catch-up" data for earlier fatalities was thrown into the data hoppers by some of the counties involved.

That hasn't stopped the Covid-Howlers from proclaiming a phony medical crisis in Texas and elsewhere, with the same old tropes about overflowing hospitals and strained ICU capacity in places like Houston.

But as the eagle-eyed maven of the corona-data, Alex Berenson, tweeted this AM, it's just a big fat lie. While CNN may have managed to find one or two crowded facilities in the whole of the Houston-Harris county region of some 5 million souls, there are actually still more than 2,500 empty hospital beds in the area.

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Here's the thing. The Virus Patrol has switched from the death count to the "case" count because the latter is not at the 3,000 per day predicted by the CDC in early May, and ballyhooed by the NYT and MSM as the leading edge of a horrid "second wave" coming down the pike.

In fact, during July to date (thru the 14th), the daily WITH-Covid death count has averaged 613, or only one-fifth of the projected June-July-August surge; and even that level is suspect, given the growing evidence that many local jurisdictions are doing retrospective death audits to pad their case counts.

In any event, the readily available state-by-state data tells you all you need to know. This so-called Sun Belt wave of cases is, indeed, the equivalent of the normal flu.

In the case of Florida, for instance, during the first 14 days of July, there have been 139,195 new cases reported, but only 4,322 new hospitalizations. So that means only 3.1 percent of this ballyhooed surge of cases was sick enough to even require hospitalization.

Needless to say, that's not a crisis; it's just one more part of the indictment against Fauci and his gang of malpracticing doctors. They have put the anti-Trump press into a rabid feeding frenzy, and that coverage, in turn, has caused the American public to head back into their Covid holes.

As it happened, three of the nation's largest banks reported their totally confected earnings for Q2 this AM, but the one thing that stood out as meaningful was a collective $28 billion provision for future loan losses. That is, they see the massive wave of defaults set in motion by Fauci's misbegotten Lockdown Nation strategy, and are getting prepared for the worst.

Meanwhile, the Fed's lunatic $3 trillion injection of liquidity into the canyons of Wall Street since the Lockdown Nation incepted in mid-March continues to do its mischief, fueling a stock market bubble that gets more ludicrous (and dangerous) by the day.

We noted yesterday that during the Monday's great reversal on the stock market that Tesla had gained a "GM" ($38 billion) in the morning spike, but lost a "BMW" ($42 billion) in the afternoon.

A timely piece by Bloomberg this AM helps explain how this kind of madness actually happened:

Almost 40,000 Robinhood accounts added shares of the automaker during a single fourhour span on Monday, according to website Robintrack.net, which compiles data on the investing platform that's much beloved by day trading millennials.

The frenzy in interest means that as of the end of Monday's trading session, there are now roughly 457,000 users on the Robinhood app that hold shares of the company in some form. That makes it the 10th-most popular stock on the platform, ahead of even Amazon.com Inc., which is held by 358,000 users.

The one-day return may not have turned out so well. Tesla was up as much as 16 percent at one point before paring gains through the day and finishing 3 percent lower. It was a rare losing day for the high flying stock, which has surged 56 percent over the past 10 days.

So how did these mindless gamblers reason about a company that has never, ever made a four-quarter profit, and which reported Q2 volumes well below last year, in coming to a peak valuation of $325 billion Monday morning?

Well, a sell-side analyst explained both that question, and the large fleet of clown cars now cruising up and down Wall Street about as well as could be expected. Said this master of the crystal ball:

'At the current price, Tesla's stock reflects an expectation of 2030 volume of 5 million units, which is more than ten times what the company appears on track to achieve this year,' Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas said.

Why, you don't say!

Then again, projecting EV car sales in the year 2030 is probably as good a use for Wall Street's clown car riders as any other.

Certainly, it would not dawn on them to ask whether a stock market held up by the Terrific Ten, and especially the FAANGs and Microsoft, has anything at all to do with the dire state of the US economy.

It seems these trading sardines make up a quarter of the S&P 500 index by value, but just 8 percent of its composite revenues and a mere 1 percent of jobs in the American workforce.

So, yes, the Acela Corridor has the clown cars coming and going - even as the stock bubble which will take down this whole fantasy reaches its historic asymptote, as we will essay further in Part 3.

[Jul 18, 2020] Fetanil competes with COVID-19 in killing Americans: 2 years of drug overdose killed as many Americans as plandemic.

Jul 18, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Record Number Of Americans Died From Drug Overdoses In 2019 As Fentanyl Moved West

Nearly 71,000 Americans died from drug overdoses last year...

Soaring overdose deaths in the US have helped drag down average life expectancy for 3 straight years, and by the looks of it, No. 4 might be right around the corner.

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sbin , 1 hour ago

St Floyd died of an overdose.

2 years of drug overdose killed as many Americans as plandemic.

Work for funeral homes many more overdose and suicide deaths 20 to 40 year olds than covid +70 and most were already dead but still breathing and making nursing home money.

Lucius Quinctius , 1 hour ago

The Chinese have a legitimate grievance ,(actually several), with regards to the deliberate introduction of opium into their country by the British, in the 1800 s,as a means to repatriate sterling used to pay for tea .Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank,(HSBC),very central to funding this traffic as well as a Jewish-British banking family, the Sassoons, originally from Baghdad ,directly involved.The immiseration of millions of Chinese in opium addiction as well as the failed Chinese attempt To free themselves from this in the Opium Wars has left them bitter,rightfully.

So, introducing fentanyl to the west is payback. Two years ago I looked up on Alibaba ,out of curiosity ,the cost , quantity and availability of a common antibiotic, Vancomycin. It was amazing, at least 30 responses, producing in quantity, hundreds of kilograms, cheap ....,,you want it when? The Chinese pharmaceutical production capacity is enormous. Fentanyl is no problem to produce in huge quantity for these folks. They, in their minds, have reason to send it our way. We are at war.

MerLynn , 1 hour ago

yes its a Bio Chemical War.... and all Bio Weapons come from the Barrel of a Needle

Sid Davis , 1 hour ago

If you are free, that means you can make good choices for yourself and bad ones, too.

When you are a slave on the big government run plantation we call the USA, pain from being subjugated encourages escape, and since the underground market in drugs is one of the few remaining free markets, you still have the freedom there to make bad choices.

It isn't much solace to those you leave behind that you managed to permanently escape your pain.

[Jul 17, 2020] Newsmax network in the US the guest COMPLETELY ripped into Gates and Fauci

Jul 17, 2020 | off-guardian.org

kevin , Jul 16, 2020 10:44 PM

Off topic, but yesterday on Newsmax network in the US the guest COMPLETELY ripped into Gates and Fauci. Newsmax is a major conservative media outlet that has both a TV network and website with millions of viewers/readers. You can watch it here:
https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1283315374025515008

[Jul 15, 2020] Fauci has been wrong about everything...- Navarro

Jul 15, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

"And when Fauci was telling the White House Coronavirus Task Force that there was only anecdotal evidence in support of hydroxychloroquine to fight the virus, I confronted him with scientific studies providing evidence of safety and efficacy. A recent Detroit hospital study showed a 50% reduction in the mortality rate when the medicine is used in early treatment.

Now Fauci says a falling mortality rate doesn't matter when it is the single most important statistic to help guide the pace of our economic reopening. The lower the mortality rate, the faster and more we can open." Navarro in USA Today

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"Laputa's population consists mainly of an educated elite, who are fond of mathematics, astronomy , music and technology, but fail to make practical use of their knowledge. Servants make up the rest of the population.

The Laputans have mastered magnetic levitation. They also are very fond of astronomy, and discovered two moons of Mars. (This is 151 years earlier than the recognized discovery of the two moons of Mars by Asaph Hall in 1877.) However, they are unable to construct well-designed clothing or buildings, as they despise practical geometry as "vulgar and mechanick". The houses are ill-built, lacking any right angles, [6] and the clothes of Laputans, which are decorated with astrological symbols and musical figures, do not fit, as they take measurements with instruments such as quadrants and a compass rather than with tape measures . [7] They spend their time listening to the music of the spheres. They believe in astrology and worry constantly that the sun will go out." wiki on Gullivers Travels.

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Ah, I see it now! Dr. Fauci is a Laputan seer! He is devoid of any real comprehension or respect for the ordinary humans trying to deal with actual pandemic problems rather than "the music of the spheres."

Is he a Democratic Party operative? I doubt it. He is simply "out of it." pl

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2020/07/14/anthony-fauci-wrong-with-me-peter-navarro-editorials-debates/5439374002/


J , 15 July 2020 at 10:46 AM

The first thing that should popped up like a red flag that Fauci was a few bricks of a shy load upstairs, was his 'luv' for Hillary.


From 2013:

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nbsp; Mike46 , 15 July 2020 at 12:40 PM

Fauci doesn't matter. Over the weekend the WH tried to strongarm parents to get on board with school reopening. They are fucking with the wrong interest group.

Mark K Logan , 15 July 2020 at 12:47 PM

There is a better, albeit a more difficult way to undermine Fauci. Educate the people that this issue has vast economic consequences and we must factor in those consequences when crafting an over-all policy. Fauci, I expect, will openly admit he is approaching the topic from a purely medical perspective...which is exactly what he's supposed to be doing.

As is, Trump is leaves himself wide open to the obvious counter: Neither he nor his economic adviser have any medical expertise.

Trump may be trapped in a zero-sum game mindset.

Terence Gore , 15 July 2020 at 02:07 PM

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/bobby-kennedy-jr-claims-dr-fauci-gates-foundation-will-make-billions-coronavirus-vaccine/

"Tony Fauci has many, many vaccine patents and there's one vaccine patent that he has that is a way of packaging a coronavirus with some other vaccine in a protein sheet and then delivering it through a vaccine he somehow ended up owning that patent Tony Fauci will be able to cash in . So Fauci's agency will collect half the royalties for that vaccine [related to the coronavirus]."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4-DMKNT7xI

The founding of moderna on mrna medicine. At end of video talks about analogy of climbing Mt Everest and needed to have 1 big investor

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/14/early-moderna-backer-on-core-investing-lesson-from-big-covid-19-bet.html

"Sunderland co-founded the VC firm, known for making ambitious investments, after having led program-related investments for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which provided financial support to Moderna while she was there. Since 2010, Moderna has been working on developing messenger RNA (mRNA) that allows the body's cells to act like reprogrammed biological factories, producing antibodies needed to battle diseases, including viruses.

"The nice thing about big bets is that they play out over time. ... We made an investment five years ago in Moderna, and mRNA was a big bet, and you see it playing out in terms of their ability to get a rapid vaccine for Covid. ... You have to take those big bets," Sunderland said."


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-government-gave-3-7million-grant-Wuhan-lab-experimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html


https://www.ajmc.com/interviews/fauci-countless-lives-have-been-saved-but-a-vaccine-and-cure-remain-elusive

Fauci interview

"The other thing that is amazing in its evolution is the amount that we've learned about HIV pathogenesis, the reservoir, the potential for controlling the virus, either in the absence of antiretroviral [treatment] or in a modified regimen that takes away the need to have a single pill or multiple pills every single day. The thing that remains the holy grail of unaccomplished goals is the development of a highly effective, safe vaccine. And that is something that's not surprising because of the very special situation with HIV, that the body -- as much as we study pathogenesis and understand it so incredibly well -- the body does not make an adequate immune response against HIV, which is the reason why no one has yet spontaneously cleared the virus by their immune system. And so what we need to do, and where we're combination putting a lot of effort into, but also struggling with, is the issue of the development of a vaccine that would be effective enough to be able to be deployed.

We have one situation that took place, well after that meeting in San Francisco, where a trial of a candidate vaccine -- in a trial named RV 144 that took place in Thailand -- showed a 31% efficacy, which gave us some great hints of correlates of immunity and are the basis for a number of subsequent trials, but still was not good enough to deploy. So we have a number of very large vaccine trials, going on now throughout the world, including a heavy concentration in southern Africa. But we also are pursuing another line of vaccine research, which is the attempt to present to the body, in the proper conformation with sequential immunizations, the capability of making broadly neutralizing antibodies. And if we're successful in that, then I think we have a really good chance of developing a vaccine that would have an efficacy and safety profile good enough to actually deploy it."

I think over time mrna "vaccines" will change medicine. Are we opening Pandora's box? Possibly.

[Jul 15, 2020] Fauci bedside deception of American public

Jul 15, 2020 | www.msn.com

Navarro wrote in the op-ed for USA TODAY Tuesday that "Fauci has a good bedside manner with the public, but he has been wrong about everything I have interacted with him on."

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The White House's deputy chief of staff for communications, Dan Scavino, who has been by the president's side since the 2016 campaign, on Sunday posted a cartoon on Facebook depicting Fauci as a running faucet washing the U.S. economy down the drain.

"Sorry, Dr. Faucet! At least you know if I'm going to disagree with a colleague, such as yourself, it's done publicly -- and not cowardly, behind journalists with leaks. See you tomorrow!" Scavino wrote in a caption accompanying the cartoon.


[Jul 06, 2020] People who don't wear masks in public close spaces are assholes and deserve everything they get

Jul 06, 2020 | www.unz.com

obwandiyag , says: June 29, 2020 at 5:06 pm GMT

People who don't wear masks are assholes and deserve everything they get.

Ask Talib about masks. He is smarter than either you or this guy.

https://medium.com/incerto/the-masks-masquerade-7de897b517b7

[Jul 06, 2020] I find it a very cruel irony that Fauci of all people is in charge of the virus non-response. Long term consequnces for people with virus pneumonia are often devastating

Jul 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Trailer Trash , Jul 5 2020 18:03 utc | 24

>But media - and USA health officials - have been silent about long-term effects of SARS-COV-2

I find it a very cruel irony that Fauci of all people is in charge of the virus non-response. He was a boat-anchor at NIH during the initial response to the AIDS crisis. He has been instrumental in wrecking the NIH research program for ME. For example, he kicked the ME research program out of his institute in Oct 1999:

"Dr. Anthony Fauci, NIAID Director, met with the Dr. Harold Varmus, Director of NIH, and concluded that CFS was more complex and activities should be relocated from a single NIH institute." (CFSAC minutes Sept 2003)

The NIH research program has been in limbo ever since, subject to an unworkable multi-institute something-or-other designed to make sure no one has authority or responsibility to actually do something.

Fauci will soon be working overtime together with the UK psychobabblers to discredit the personal reports of the COVID Longhaulers. They will be diagnosed with "stress" and given a course of "computerized" CBT, which will tell them to ignore symptoms and carry on, until they collapse.

When patients don't come back, doctors always assume they got better. Honest to god, doctors have said that to me. It does not occur to them that patients get too sick to go to the clinic, or they got tired of being fobbed off.

[Jul 03, 2020] Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds - Detroit News

Notable quotes:
"... The study analyzed 2,541 patients hospitalized among the system's six hospitals between March 10 and May 2 and found 13% of those treated with hydroxychloroquine died while 26% of those who did not receive the drug died. ..."
"... Among all patients in the study, there was an overall in-hospital mortality rate of 18%, and many who died had underlying conditions that put them at greater risk, according to Henry Ford Health System. Globally, the mortality rate for hospitalized patients is between 10% and 30%, and it's 58% among those in the intensive care unit or on a ventilator." Detroit News ..."
"... A long "take down" of Fauci: https://www.unz.com/audio/kbarrett_ken-mccarthy-tony-fauci-is-corrupt-to-the-core/ ..."
"... This is not Fauci's first rodeo. He's been pumping hysteria for 36 years. He always gets it wrong. He was wrong about swine flu. He was wrong about bird flu. He was wrong about Zika. He was wrong about Ebola. He wildly exaggerated AIDS. And he always is wrong in the favor of pharmaceutical companies. And he's always wrong in favor of 'we've got to develop a vaccine now. We have to throw out all the rules. ..."
"... Observational studies are never the equivalent of double-blind randomized studies; but there can still provide important and fare more readily obtained early information about these connections and conditions. ..."
"... This stuff is hard. There are lots of variations in patient populations and treatment protocols. We have to consider doses, concomitant meds (such as azithromycin), patient status at time of treatment, age, and, comorbidities. ..."
"... the recently halted NIH trial was randomized, double-blinded; this was in a hospital setting. The prophylactic trial reported at the beginning of June in NEJM (author Boulware) was also randomized, double-blinded; this was in a prophylactic setting. ..."
Jul 03, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

"A Henry Ford Health System study shows the controversial anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine helps lower the death rate of COVID-19 patients, the Detroit-based health system said Thursday.

Officials with the Michigan health system said the study found the drug "significantly" decreased the death rate of patients involved in the analysis.

The study analyzed 2,541 patients hospitalized among the system's six hospitals between March 10 and May 2 and found 13% of those treated with hydroxychloroquine died while 26% of those who did not receive the drug died.

Among all patients in the study, there was an overall in-hospital mortality rate of 18%, and many who died had underlying conditions that put them at greater risk, according to Henry Ford Health System. Globally, the mortality rate for hospitalized patients is between 10% and 30%, and it's 58% among those in the intensive care unit or on a ventilator." Detroit News

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No comment needed. pl

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/07/02/michigan-henry-ford-health-study-finds-hydroxychloroquine-lowers-covid-19-death-rate/5365090002/


Fred , 03 July 2020 at 11:38 AM

I agree, no comment is needed. Some charges for medical malpractice and malfeasance certainly are.

John Credulous , 03 July 2020 at 01:06 PM

Fred,

There will be no accountability: The b-stards have set the standards.

A long "take down" of Fauci: https://www.unz.com/audio/kbarrett_ken-mccarthy-tony-fauci-is-corrupt-to-the-core/

BillWade` , 03 July 2020 at 01:09 PM

Damn it, it's too cheap!

Deap , 03 July 2020 at 01:54 PM

Uncharted research: areas where anti-malarial drugs are sold widely over the counter - in malaria prone parts of the world - eg: Central America, SEA and Pacific Islands. How do their covid rates relate to these specific localities (not just generalized country numbers), where ongoing prophylactic sales of OTC anti-malaria drugs are most prevalent?

Why does the CDC travel and tourism website info still recommend taking anti-malarial drugs, when the other hand of our deep state bureaucrats are screaming these drugs will kill you?

Observational studies are never the equivalent of double-blind randomized studies; but there can still provide important and fare more readily obtained early information about these connections and conditions.

jonst , 03 July 2020 at 01:56 PM

No comment/s needed perhaps. But deliciously anticipated. Here, from the Committee, and especially from the MSM. Even if only silence. Because "silence is really violence" in this case.

John Credulous , 03 July 2020 at 02:17 PM

FWIW, Jimmie Moglia's erudition is formidable, and as a stylist, not too distracting:

https://www.yourdailyshakespeare.com/2020/04/11/the-coronavirus-and-galileo/
As for me I am reminded of the advice that Timon of Athens gave to two robbers who came to see him, "Trust not the physician, for his antidotes are poison, and he slays more than you rob."

https://www.yourdailyshakespeare.com/2020/06/08/the-world-upside-down/
And here is an example, a reported 'case-study'. A prince of Persia had melancholia and suffered from the delusion of being a cow. He would moo like a cow, crying "Kill me so that a good stew may be made of my flesh," and would never eat anything. Avicenna was persuaded to treat the case and sent a message to the patient, asking him to be happy as the butcher was coming to slaughter him. The sick man rejoiced. When Avicenna approached the prince with a knife in his hand, he asked, "Where is the cow so I may kill it."

The patient then mooed like a cow to indicate where he was. He was then laid on the ground for slaughter. When Avicenna approached the patient pretending to slaughter him, he said, "The cow is too lean and not ready to be killed. He must be fed properly and I will kill it when it becomes healthy and fat. The patient was then offered food, which he ate eagerly and gradually gained strength, got rid of his delusion, and was completely cured.

How relevant may be the Avicennian case study to the current dynamics of the pandemic I will leave it to my possible and patient readers to decide.

Ulenspiegel , 03 July 2020 at 02:20 PM

"No comment needed."


What was the difference between the Michigan study and the others, which found no positive ecffect?

How do you explain the low mortality of the control group in the Michigan study?

egl , 03 July 2020 at 02:31 PM

"Limitations to our analysis include the retrospective, non-randomized, non-blinded study design."

turcopolier , 03 July 2020 at 02:51 PM

ulenspiegel

Dr. Marc Siegel a medical correspondent for Foxnews told T. Carlson weeks ago that an emergency treatment of this drug saved the life of his 96 year old father who was at the point of death, cured him overnight in fact.

Babak makkinejad , 03 July 2020 at 03:27 PM

Utenspiegel

It is a fact that cancer drugs are not uniformly effective in all patients.

The causes must be sought in the genotypes of the patients.

The differential response as well as effectiveness are not reasons to discard a therapy.

In further news on COVID-19 Treatments I have 2 items to report:

First one:

The 3-drug mixture of Azittomycin, Naproxen, and prednisolone (oral or injectable) have been used successfully for reduction of the inflammation of respiratory system.

3 systematic trials have been undertaken and results were conclusive in expediting faster recovery.

Second one:

Clinical trials in Iran (in Masih Daneshvari hospital) – indicated 100% cure of COVID-19 in 20 patients using a combination of ReciGen and Cultera (sic?) which is an AIDS drug.

A second group of patients – 152 – had a reduction in mortality of 20% as compared to those who were only receiving Cultera (sic.?)


https://www.cinnagen.com/Product.aspx?t=2&l=1&Id=66&f=3

The results are supposed to be published in the Journal of Immunopharmacotherapy.

The dosage was: 5 times day, 12 million units.

No side effects were reported.

egl , 03 July 2020 at 03:57 PM

ulenspiegel:

This stuff is hard. There are lots of variations in patient populations and treatment protocols. We have to consider doses, concomitant meds (such as azithromycin), patient status at time of treatment, age, and, comorbidities.

A big difference: the Ford study was not randomized, not double-blinded. They used a statistical technique to try to make the groups comparable on factors believed to be relevant, but this is after fact. (It's a nice technique, I've used it myself, but it doesn't magically solve all of the difficulties of retrospective analysis.)

In contrast, the recently halted NIH trial was randomized, double-blinded; this was in a hospital setting. The prophylactic trial reported at the beginning of June in NEJM (author Boulware) was also randomized, double-blinded; this was in a prophylactic setting.

Seward , 03 July 2020 at 06:00 PM

Hydroxychloroquine is the active ingredient in the tonic portion of gin and tonics, which I've been drinking for prophylactic purposes since the pandemic began.

[Jul 02, 2020] Public Outcry Follows Gilead Decision to Charge $3000 for COVID Drug that Costs Pennies to Produce

Notable quotes:
"... Journal of Virus Eradication ..."
"... Alan MacLeod is a Staff Writer for MintPress News. After completing his PhD in 2017 he published two books: Bad News From Venezuela: Twenty Years of Fake News and Misreporting and Propaganda in the Information Age: Still Manufacturing Consent . He has also contributed to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting , The Guardian , Salon , The Grayzone , Jacobin Magazine , Common Dreams the American Herald Tribune and The Canary . ..."
Jul 02, 2020 | www.mintpressnews.com

alifornia-based pharmaceutical giant Gilead Sciences has announced that a five-day course of its antiviral drug Remdesivir -- shown in tests to effectively fight COVID-19 -- will cost $3,120 to Americans with health insurance and $2,340 to those on Medicaid. Yet research published in April calculated that the drug could be produced at a profit for as little as $0.93 per day.

The study, led by Dr. Andrew Hill from the Department of Translational Medicine, University of Liverpool, U.K., and published in the Journal of Virus Eradication , found that a five-day course of lifesaving Remdesivir could be mass-produced for less than the cost of a Subway sandwich. So cheap is the drug that the saline solution and the syringe needed to administer it would be more costly. MintPress spoke with Dr. Hill, who was dismayed by the company's announcement.

We are in a health emergency. We can't have a situation right now where people are unable to access medicine because the prices are too high. Remdesivir is a drug that has had its development costs paid for, in large part, by independent donors like governments and ministries of health in China, the WHO, and the U.S. government. So why should a company be making money in the middle of a pandemic by selling a drug which has largely been developed independently of them?" he said.

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News of the decision led to an explosion of public anger. "As Gilead charges $3,120 for its COVID drug, Remdesivir, remember that the drug was developed with a $70,000,000 grant from the federal government paid for by American taxpayers. Once again, Big Pharma is set to profit on the people's dime," wrote former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich. "This isn't healthcare. It's extortion," appeared to be the overwhelming sentiment on social media.

Gilead itself, however, seemed not to share this sentiment. Indeed, its press release on the subject positioned its decision as a selfless and magnanimous gesture of corporate philanthropy. "We approached this with the aim of helping as many patients as possible, as quickly as possible and in the most responsible way," said its CEO, Daniel O'Day, adding that, "under normal circumstances" the company would have charged the public $12,000 per patient.

"A new low"

Remdesivir is an intravenous antiviral drug that has been used to fight other coronaviruses like SARS and MERS and has shown some effectiveness against Ebola. Although far from a miracle treatment, studies have concluded that it aids recovery, reducing the average hospital visit for COVID-19 patients from 15 days to 11 days when compared to a placebo. Like with everything coronavirus-related, there is no absolute scientific consensus. In late April, the WHO accidentally leaked a Chinese study that suggested Remdesivir may not be as effective as Gilead claims it to be. Nevertheless, the Trump administration has now bought up the entire world's stock of the drug, effectively confiscating it and shutting out every other country from the medicine.

"I've been working in medicine for 32 years and I have never seen anything like it. I've never seen a country be that brazen. We have to work together. This could be a taste of the future. They've tried to also do this with advanced orders of vaccines. Imagine if we had a 100 percent effective vaccine and it only went to Americans," Dr. Hill told MintPress .

At the moment people don't quite understand the gravity of the decision that the American government has made. This is a worldwide epidemic and we have got to remember that the clinical trials of Remdesivir were not just conducted in the United States; they were conducted around European and Chinese centers. Patients put themselves at risk to take part in an experimental drug trial, and the gratitude we get as other countries after our people were involved in these studies is to be shut out of the future supply of the drug?! It is simply ethically unacceptable. I think there are serious questions to be answered. This is a new low ground, unfortunately," he added.

https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/1277821241496408071

Gilead has been under considerable public scrutiny of late. The company, which announced profits of $5.4 billion last year, has increased its value by $15 billion since the pandemic began. In December, MintPress reported that it was being sued, accused of deliberately holding back a lifesaving HIV drug to extend the profitability of their previous, inferior one. With shades of the Remdesivir announcement, the drug is sold in Australia for $8 per month, but the company charges Americans around $2,000 for the same dosage. "Gilead has a long history of profiteering," said Dr. Hill. "Its CEO is a billionaire and has been accused of tax avoidance; by keeping their intellectual property in Ireland they avoided $10 billion in taxes in 2016 and they sell drugs for between 100 and 1,000 times the cost of production. And nobody is stopping them. I think this is a taste of things to come if we don't have better controls on the pharmaceutical industry's excesses."

As of Wednesday morning, there have been 2.73 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the United States, the six worst days for the virus in terms of infections all occurring in the previous week.

Feature photo | A lab tech displays a package of the Remdesivir at the Eva Pharma Facility in Cairo, Egypt June 29, 2020. Amr Abdallah | Reuters

Alan MacLeod is a Staff Writer for MintPress News. After completing his PhD in 2017 he published two books: Bad News From Venezuela: Twenty Years of Fake News and Misreporting and Propaganda in the Information Age: Still Manufacturing Consent . He has also contributed to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting , The Guardian , Salon , The Grayzone , Jacobin Magazine , Common Dreams the American Herald Tribune and The Canary .

[Jul 01, 2020] Watch Live- Dr. Fauci Testifies About US COVID-19 Response During Senate Hearing

Jul 01, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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Fred box , 40 minutes ago

Deaths from just *Pneumonia* from Feb1st to June20/20 =*119,174* Deaths from just Covid by its self for same time period = 109,188 And for this time period 1,232,269 Deaths from all causes. The numbers Fear game,obviously is being played up large by the DemoTards and we know why! Funny how the Fake News,never speaks of this. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1113051/number-reported-deaths-from-covid-pneumonia-and-flu-us/

Arch_Stanton , 47 minutes ago

Fauci should have had his microphone taken away months ago. A testament to the power of big pharma.

razorthin , 59 minutes ago

Little Fascist Koxucker.

"Please understand the people who have built this international order reject natural law, so they do not like sovereign citizens. They do not believe people have inherent rights or sacred liberties. Most frankly find God anathema and believe in no higher authority than themselves and the heartless arithmetic they serve. So, while they have happily plundered America of blood and treasure which we were foolish enough to provide in copious quantities, they have no love or need of our nation or antiquated concepts such as those enshrined in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. In their calculation, America needed to be taken down in order to realize the global project, and as you see the first glimmers of a national effort in opposition to that, a positive limited effort struggling to overcome the bureaucrats who betray us all at every opportunity, it becomes clear the Left would rather collapse America than see us oppose the new world without borders where everyone intermingles under a controlling network of agencies. No guns, no resistance, no free speech, and no problems is what they want. Only we stand in the way of the fulfillment of this Orwellian vision, and as each day's hysteria on the news reveals, the powers that be are working overtime to push the Left into revolt to topple America into a conflict that will remove us from prominence on the world scene. Should they win, our rights are gone. Should they fail, the rest of the world will have consolidated against us, save those few brave nations trying to fight themselves free of the same entanglements that brought us low. This is where we are today, and it is one hell of a dilemma for a person who cares about this country and our historic values. No matter what we choose, any path but submission and surrender only leads to greater conflict, so this makes us consider the first important question: What are we willing to fight to preserve? Individuals and families will have to answer this question in the coming months and years in a much more meaningful way than has been required in generations. The easy days are coming to an end, and while the economy is booming and we're enjoying an Indian Summer for our embattled nation, these questions will only become more pressing in the days ahead."

-- The Coming Civil War by Tom Kawczynski

nsurf9 , 1 hour ago

The nasolacrimal duct (also called the tear duct) carries tears from the lacrimal sac of the eye into the nasal cavity. This virus seems to be able aerosol its particles more readily than other viruses so as to spread its RNA/DNA in the air - as well as being normally contracted through fluid droplets.

The eyes are large wet areas, perfect for collecting dust and viruses. If you're a part of an at-risk demographic or just worried, make sure you cover you eyes. And, upon returning home, I rinse the eyes out with water along with washing my hands.

Right now, I'm using some tight-fitting fishing glasses with my n99 mask, when I go into stores or hi-density areas - but, looking for something better.

IvannaHumpalot , 1 hour ago

Rinsing your eyes wont help

yes you can get it through your eyes but that is very difficult via aerosol and unlikely

far more likely is you touch a contaminated surface after some dirty person without a facemask has been talking and breathing out their infected droplets earlier

those droplets fall to the surface and you touch it then touch your eyes, nose or mouth

or you breathe in an infective dose by not wearing a mask to reduce viral load exposure

or you walk it home on your shoes

IvannaHumpalot , 1 hour ago

Herd immunity at 80%

america has 328 million

That means 262 million must get infected for fantasy herd immunity

US infected is now at 2.7 million infected

let us be generous and say 10x havent been diagnosed but have it

so the US is at 27 million infected

27 out of 262 million

there goes the stupid herd immunity sham

Wear a facemask, avoid catching or spreading it

tranium , 1 hour ago

Dr. HOAX is spreading plandemic.

ZKnight , 1 hour ago

Does anyone even believe this sleazy little man who's corona predictions were 20x off?

He single handedly destroyed the economy and people's jobs over a false alarm all to try and get his vaccine's in.

WhiteHose , 1 hour ago

Hes been wrong on everything since Jan!

hugin-o-munin , 1 hour ago

We applaud the approval of chemical sweeteners, fluoride, GMOs, antibiotic saturated meat products and poultry, not to mention the continued use of Glyphosate on just about all food products. Eat and drink your industrial sugar and chemicals. Now we need a global vaccine schedule and license linked to passports to make sure everyone on the planet is inoculated all the time before we can allow them to buy and sell. This is all done out of pure love and care for all people.

/s

JamcaicanMeAfraid , 1 hour ago

Fauci's ego may start to encroach on the king of all egos, Barry Soreto

Peak Finance , 1 hour ago

This:

"tremendous burden" that the US health care system might face this fall if COVID-19 and the flu are circulating at the same time.

This man is truly a fool and should be arrested.

Death rates and statistics do not work that way

This coming flu season is going to be the MILDEST EVER because of Covid, as, the people that WOULD HAVE DIED this season have ALREADY PASSED

Similar to the "Demand-pull" concept in economics

Random ZH posters smarter than people in the upper reaches of government

******* Clown World

Argentumentum , 1 hour ago

They are not stupid. They are criminals.

LA_Goldbug , 1 hour ago

A waist of time listening to these jokers.

You are better off reading this article,

https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/

Counting,

https://banned.video/watch?id=5efab695672706002f367a0a

Crash Overide , 2 hours ago

Fauci and Redfield are complete pieces of s h i t. So much misdirection and lies.

RTP , 2 hours ago

Gallo + Fauci = AIDS swindle

Fauci + Gates = COVID-19 swindle

How much longer will this poisonous dwarf ruin the future of mankind?

k3g , 2 hours ago

Question in March: Doc, you've been a Director at NIH infectious disease unit for 36 years. You're our top virologist. You're in the spotlight, your moment to shine, to show why we've paid your salary and bene's all these years, we're counting on you. First question: should we wear masks, would that help?

A: Dunno. Have to study it.

Q: Well, if we want to wear masks, how to we get them? When will the gubmint release masks from the billions it has in storage?

A: Dunno. Not sure if we have any masks. Have you tried Home Depot?

kort6776 , 2 hours ago

the government is cooking the books

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/continuing-coverage/coronavirus/local-coronavirus-news/are-antibody-tests-included-in-the-states-reporting-yes-and-no

Cobra Commander , 2 hours ago

"Just flatten the Curve."

"2 weeks to flatten the Curve."

"Don't wear masks; unless they are N95 they are ineffective."

"Stop buying masks -- we need them for the (furloughed) hospital workers."

"Mask are now super effective against SARS-CoV-2."

"Just wear anything; homemade, cotton, surgical, wool blend, anything is now effective."

Cobra!

USAllDay , 2 hours ago

"Dr. Fauci I am curious about your income before the virus vs today"?

"How many mortgage payments have you missed"

"How many employees have you fired?

Lord Raglan , 2 hours ago

"which pharmaceutical companies do you own stock in directly or indirectly through family members?"

shankster , 2 hours ago

What about your financial ties to Bill Gates?

Son of Loki , 1 hour ago

"BJ" is what he's known outside CDC by.

Big Jackass = Fauci

Many of these people are in government --- life long -- because they could never make it in the private sector.

Geocen Trist , 2 hours ago

" Fauci attended Regis High School in Manhattan's Upper East Side " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci

" Regis High School is a private Jesuit secondary school for Roman Catholic boys located on Manhattan's Upper East Side. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regis_High_School_(New_York_City)

" He then went to the College of the Holy Cross "

" The College of the Holy Cross, or better known simply as Holy Cross, is a private Jesuit liberal arts college in Worcester, Massachusetts. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_of_the_Holy_Cross

I wonder if Fauci is a Jesuit Freemason ? :-D

shankster , 1 hour ago

Masks are only for the plebs

enlightened01 , 2 hours ago

The government and the FED dumping TRILLIONS of dollars to all these corporations, meanwhile they can't even provide FREE MASKS for everyone. If they really wanted to help, they could have given everyone masks. That's how you could have helped prevent it. And MASKS are expensive why not subsidized it, and maybe we would have this in control and are re-opening sooner.

Macho Latte , 2 hours ago


Dr Atlas on Tucker Carlson
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6168220031001?playlist_id=5528578293001#sp=show-clips

Son of Loki , 1 hour ago

Here it is on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9AQEHOZYB4

[Jun 29, 2020] Gilead Will Charge More Than $3,000 For A Course Of COVID-19 Drug Remdesivir

Highly recommended!
Corrupt Fauci, stupid customers. IT the same neoliberal story of profiteering as a virtue all over again.
The government bought by Big Pharma, and Big Pharma out or control with questionable drugs and methods are two side of the same coin
Jun 29, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

On Monday, Gilead disclosed its pricing plan for Gilead as it prepares to begin charging for the drug at the beginning of next month (several international governments have already placed orders). Given the high demand, thanks in part due to the breathless media coverage despite the drug's still-questionable study data, Gilead apparently feels justified in charging $3,120 for a patient getting the shorter, more common, treatment course, and $5,720 for the longer course for more seriously ill patients. These are the prices for patients with commercial insurance in the US, according to Gilead's official pricing plan.

As per usual, the price charged to those on government plans will be lower, and hospitals will also receive a slight discount. Additionally, the US is the only developed country where Gilead will charge two prices, according to Gilead CEO Daniel O'Day. In much of Europe and Canada, governments negotiate drug prices directly with drugmakers (in the US, laws dictate that drug makers must "discount" their drugs for Medicare and Medicaid plans).

But according to O'Day, the drug is priced "far below the value it brings" to the health-care system.

However, we'd argue that this actually isn't true. Remdesivir was developed by Gilead to treat Ebola, but the drug was never approved by the FDA for this use, which caused Gilead to shelve the drug until COVID-19 presented another opportunity. Even before the first study had finished, the company was already pushing propaganda about the promising nature of the drug. Meanwhile, the CDC, WHO and other organizations were raising doubts about the effectiveness of steroid medications.

Months later, the only study on the steroid dexomethasone, a cheap steroid that costs less than $50 for a 100-dose regimen, has shown that dexomethasone is the only drug so far that has proven effective at lowering COVID-19 related mortality. Remdesivir, despite the fact that it has been tested in several high quality trials, has not.

So, why is the American government in partnership with Gilead still pushing this questionable, and staggeringly expensive, medication on the public?

[Jun 28, 2020] Why you shouldn't wear a face mask if you're healthy - YouTube

This is stupid interpretation of a useful experiment. The key is that masks does limits the distance to which aerosol travels What face masks actually do against coronavirus - YouTube
See also more reserved view -- it make sense to wear mask on closed or crowded spaces were you can't maintain safe distance only -- Should Healthy People Wear Masks during Covid-19 Coronavirus Pandemic
See also The Do's and Don'ts of Wearing Masks and Gloves - YouTube
Jun 28, 2020 | www.youtube.com
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[Jun 28, 2020] Cuomo incompetence is staggering indeed

Jun 28, 2020 | www.blogger.com
Anonymous ilsm said...
2slugs,

I am not an ORSA (I can talk from my BS studies, and a few electives at grad level) occasionally I used the USAF version usually A&AS contractors and/or FFRDC of you guys. I would not talk models unless they showed the 'pedigree'.

I do not know your model, nor do I know how CDC or WHO validates or accredits a model for CoV SAR-2 when there is little agreed to on CoV SAR 1 from 2003. Post Docs in Universities.......?

NY metro, my home town and of 1/2 my grandkids', is "enjoying" very low new cases and for a number of weeks has seen steeply declining hospitalizations and ICU demand. The dead for NY state is well over 1500 per million, consider that during most of the shelter in place the center of NY state cases was the NY metro area (say 12 million souls) more than half NYS population in the shelter in place regime, you may disagree but I put dead for million in NY metro closer to 2700 than NY states' 1500 in round numbers. Sweden is around 10 million.

NY metro failed at 'lock down', mass transit continued to operate, unlike Wuhan which shut it all down. "Essential" workers travelled, came home often to multigenerational homes, crowding and general breaking of the curfews denied most of the 'benefits' seen in Peoples Republic of China and Taiwan, where if one tested positive you were put in a "Covid hotel" totally out of 'circulation'.

Some ideas:

Estimates are that 20% of NY metro residents now have anti bodies, that is large number of cases with none to minimal symptoms. That is the (not so) hardest observation to explain what is happening in NY metro.

Another theory comes out of Italy is with social distancing many 'subjects' get a small exposure to the virus and the subjects develop immunity. Another theory is 50 or so percent of the population has sturdy T cell response and beats the virus. I think Italy's, along with France and Spain, turn in the pandemic is a miracle! Thanks to Pope Francis.

Son with PhD theories, his words:

"Cell paper suggesting 40-60% of people have innate immunity ranging from cellular response (lysozyme, TLR pathway, etc.) to cross-reactive T-cells. A pet theory of mine is ACE2 receptor polymorphism as a possible factor; I saw an early Chinese paper suggesting east Asians carried an ACE2 membrane domain very similar to that of bats, though have not found much follow-up to that. Like with SARS-1, there will be many years of study and still no good answers."

The above is from a dialog with his childhood friend, now an ER MD in a Massachusetts hot spot, I used to take them to Boy Scouts 30 years ago.

I disagree with my son, the recent "success" in NY metro is a miracle: NY metro changed nothing; kept the subways running but 'turned the corner' in a big way!

I pray!

You have another explanation for NY?

June 26, 2020 at 9:42 PM

[Jun 21, 2020] The Corruption of Science. The Hydroxychloroquine Lancet Study Scandal. Who Was Behind It Anthony Fauci's Intent To Block HCQ

Jun 21, 2020 | www.globalresearch.ca

The Corruption of Science. The Hydroxychloroquine Lancet Study Scandal. Who Was Behind It? Anthony Fauci's Intent To Block HCQ on Behalf of Big Pharma By Prof Michel Chossudovsky Global Research, June 10, 2020 Global Research Region: USA Theme: Media Disinformation , Science and Medicine

The Guardian has revealed the scandal behind the hydroxychloroquine study which was intent on blocking HCQ as a cure for COVID-19. "Dozens of scientific papers co-authored by the chief executive of the US tech company behind the Lancet hydroxychloroquine study scandal are now being audited, including one that a scientific integrity expert claims contains images that appear to have been digitally manipulated. The audit follows a Guardian investigation that found the company, Surgisphere , used suspect data in major scientific studies that were published and then retracted by world-leading medical journals, including the Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine. .

According to The Lancet:

several concerns were raised with respect to the veracity of the data and analyses conducted by Surgisphere Corporation and its founder and our co-author, Sapan Desai, in our publication. We launched an independent third-party peer review of Surgisphere As such, our reviewers were not able to conduct an independent and private peer review and therefore notified us of their withdrawal from the peer-review process

The study was allegedly based on data analysis of 96,032 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 between Dec 20, 2019, and April 14, 2020 from 671 hospitals Worldwide. The database, according to the Guardian could not be verified. It was false.

"I am truly Sorry"

Surgishpere CEO Dr. Sapan Desai was not in charge of the study. The lead author was Harvard Medical School professor Mandeep Mehra:

"I did not do enough to ensure that the data source was appropriate for this use. For that, and for all the disruptions – both directly and indirectly – I am truly sorry."

CEO Dr. Sapan Desai took the blame. Who was behind him?

The Surgisphere Scientific Scam. Who was behind it? Who "commissioned" this Report?

Was the pharmaceutical industry and vaccine lobby group behind this initiative? The Lancet acknowledges that the study received funding from the William Harvey Distinguished Chair in Advanced Cardiovascular Medicine at Brigham and Women's Hospital which is held by Dr. Mandeep Mehra. In this regard, it is worth noting that Brigham Health has a major contract with Big Pharma's Gilead Sciences Inc , related to the development of the Remdesivir drug for the treatment of COVID-19. The Gilead-Brigham Health project was initiated in March 2020 .

Was the Surgisphere study intended to provide a justification to block the use of HCQ, as recommended by Dr. Anthony Fauci, advisor to president Trump? Upon reading the study (prior to its retraction), "Dr Fauci, grinned as he told CNN that "the data shows hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment "Referring to the Surgisphere report: "The scientific data is really quite evident now about the lack of efficacy for it [HCQ]," said Dr. Fauci. (quoted by CNN ).

Here is the CNN's authoritative assessment of Surgisphere's report (prior to The Lancet's Retraction):

"Seriously ill Covid-19 patients who were treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine were more likely to die or develop dangerous irregular heart rhythms, according to a large observational study [by Surgisphere] published Friday [May 22, 2020] in the medical journal The Lancet .

And Did CNN "retract" its earlier endorsement of this "fake scientific study"?

Dr. Anthony Fauci who is the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) , has from the very outset led the campaign against hydroxychloroquine (largely on behalf of Big Pharma) invoking similar "scientific arguments" against HCQ, saying categorically there was no cure to COVID-19, and the only solution was the vaccine.

According to the Spectator:

The campaign to destroy hydroxychloroquine has been waged relentlessly, both by competitor pharmaceutical companies and those who want to destroy the US economy to advance their political agenda. It is shocking that it has cost hundreds of thousands of lives and billions of taxpayer dollars. But although the corruption of science for political and/ or financial gain has become a defining characteristic of our age, it is not a new story.

The publication of the Surgisphere study had an immediate impact: According to the Guardian , "Surgisphere data led to global trials of hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19 being halted in May, because it appeared to show the drug increased deaths in Covid-19 patients".

"Higher Risks of Death" if you take HCQ, according to the study. In the days following the fake Surgisphere Lancet report on May 22, several countries including Belgium, France, Italy, acted to halt the use of hydroxychloroquine. The study had concluded patients taking the anti-malaria drug had a higher risk of death than those who were not taking the medication

It is worth noting that prior to the conduct of the Surgisphere study, Dr. Fauci stated categorically that the use of HCQ had not been studied in relation to the coronavirus. "No proven drug": "Not Enough Known" . Nonsensical and false statements.

What Fauci failed to mention is that Chloroquine had been "studied" and tested fifteen years ago by the CDC as a drug to be used against coronavirus infections. Chloroquine was used in 2002 and tested against SARS-1 coronavirus in a study under the auspices of the CDC published in 2005 in the peer reviewed Virology Journal. The main conclusion of the article was that: Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread. It was used in the SARS-1 outbreak in 2002. It had the endorsement of the CDC.

The main author Dr. Martin J. Vincent together with several of his colleagues were affiliated with the Special Pathogens Branch of the Atlanta based CDC together with co-authors from a Montreal based partner research institution. The main conclusions of this study are that Chloroquine is a tested drug and can be used for SARS-corona virus infections.

Dr. Anthony Fauci has not put forth a treatment which could be applied against COVID-19. What he is saying is that there is no treatment. And then he endorses the fake scientific study by Surgisphere which was subsequently retracted by The Lancet. Lancet: the article was retracted

Dr. Anthony Fauci has been deliberately blocking a drug which was endorsed by the CDC 15 years ago for treatment of SARS-1 Coronavirus. More recently, it has been used extensively in a number of countries in relation to the Coronavirus or SARS-COV-2 (COVID-19) outbreak. Whose interests is he serving?

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[Jun 20, 2020] Are masks helpful in cinama and theaters?

Jun 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Kay Fabe , Jun 19 2020 23:42 utc | 52

"The primary function of a mask is not to protect the person who wears it, but to protect the other persons who are around.

Theaters are closed rooms in which people sit together for a longer time in often somewhat sticky air. Like churches they are prime location for potential super-spreader events. One infected person who does not wear a mask in a theater can infect many other attendants, even if they do wear masks."

I am a bit more understanding of mandatory mask wearing on public transportation or retail outlets. People don't have many choices to travel or shop so I go along with it.

However, going to a movie theater is a choice. I am a big believer in Freedom of Choice. If you choose to attend a theater knowing in advance masks are not mandatory, thats your choice. For a healthy person under 55 the risk of death or hospitalization from this virus is not any greater than flu. Those are facts from CDC. If you want to protect your eyes from viruses wear goggles.

I personally cant wear a mask for long periods because i feel oxygen deprived. Real or imaginary I cant say, but I saw one study with surgeons where prolonged wearing of surgical
Masks significantly reduced lung oxygen levels. Some medical conditions make mask wearing dangerous. Oxygen is necessary to clear infection in the lungs and nasal passages so I am not confident prolonged mask wearing might not increase the risk of infection or worsen an existing infection. Sadly there are few useful studies. I guess not enough of a profit motive to fund them.


Christian J. Chuba , Jun 20 2020 0:09 utc | 60

Kay Fabe, "I am a bit more understanding of mandatory mask wearing on public transportation or retail outlets...Masks significantly reduced lung oxygen levels."

Masks just need to stop droplets can be cloth based, they don't have to be super impermeable but still only you can say what you consider comfortable. A movie is about 2 - 3 hrs of non-strenuous activity, I don't see how it is so different from wearing it on an airplane, or long bus / train trip.

I heard a doctor make an interesting claim that contrary to popular belief, the air on a passenger jet is very pure, highly filtered and blows downward and therefore very safe. It makes me wonder about the air system in a theater, if it is good then AMC should lead with that.

Richard Steven Hack , Jun 20 2020 0:11 utc | 61
...Of course, if someone directly coughs in your face, then presumably you get hit with a full load. That's why we maintain distance. But even the, the primary route will be through the nose and mouth. It's also likely that a far bigger load goes through the nose and mouth than the eyes, and it is speculated that the likelihood of infection depends on the viral load.

In any event, I wear glasses, which likely provides a fair amount of protection from random airborne virus particles.

Richard Steven Hack , Jun 20 2020 0:46 utc | 68
...For the most part, however, the vast majority of persons who caught it appear to have gotten it directly from being near an infectious person for at least ten minutes, inhaling their breathing/talking/singing/yelling air, with a much smaller percentage getting it from touching an infected surface (estimated at only ten percent of cases.) So getting it from food is likely an even more distant probability.

That said, as I've said before, getting this thing is a crapshoot. It's a matter of greater or lesser probabilities. As they say, "to play the odds, you have to know the odds." So I take steps that would minimize my risk, but in the end there's only so much you can do. I assume some people have caught it by wildly improbable methods.

It reminds me of the Marty Feldman skit decades ago. He goes to visit an insurance agent and proceeds to drive the agent crazy by asking if the insurance being offered would protect me from insanely unlikely events, such as "being struck by a meteorite whilst sunbathing at the beach" or "falling into a pit filled with hedgehogs whilst playing cricket." Eventually he asks if he is protected against an enraged insurance agent, whereupon the agent says, "No!" and proceeds to strangle him.

[Jun 19, 2020] Fauci farginatly states that Americans Don't Believe Science And They Don't Believe Authority

Jun 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

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Dumpster Elite , 1 hour ago

Does he mean "scientists", such as Bill Gates?

We_The_People , 1 hour ago

That's not entirely true, we just do not believe in fraudulent agenda driven traitors like you!

Fauci's estimates were so off that the only 2 conclusions can be formed, gross negligence or intentional deception, either way he has zero credibility left!

Locker up , 1 hour ago

I remember when the pandemic started Fauci said "Masks don't protect you and the front line health workers need the masks for their protection". I think that statement caused him to lose all credibility with the public. Fauci still sounds like he's drowning in mucus. They should get a healthy honest scientist to talk to the public.

MsCreant , 1 hour ago

This guy should just step down.

He is now saying masks are good. They were not good when there was a shortage of them.

If he can't see the logic of why he is not trusted, he is incompetent. lay_arrow

Dumpster Elite , 1 hour ago

"How DARE you serfs and peasants question the authority and wisdom of your masters!!! INSOLENCE!!!!"

Max UK , 1 hour ago

Yeah Fauci, nobody has done as much to destroy trust actually, as YOU!

NumberNone , 1 hour ago

There are 57 genders...is that the science we don't believe in? Asking for a friend.

Lt. Frank Drebin , 1 hour ago

What a jerk. This dude has Napoleon syndrome, i.e. only he is right, everyone else is stupid.

Tarzan , 38 minutes ago

Fauci TEST ified that, although they are TEST ing more, there has been more positive TEST s then before they were TEST ing more, and We're all crazy science deniers for recognizing his inconsistent TEST imony.

Fauci is playing with fire.

gas·light

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gerund or present participle: gaslighting

  1. manipulate (someone) by psychological means into questioning their own sanity.

RU4Au , 11 minutes ago

Hey Fauxi, You're right. I don't believe in your kind of 'science' or your kind of 'authority'.

[Jun 19, 2020] Medical charlatan ands sleazy politican Fauci tells us that Americans Don't Believe Science And They Don't Believe Authority by Steve Watson

Highly recommended!
Fauci clearly is a charlatan, a researcher who long ago became a politician and now cheats like Pompeo. His mask wearng fiacto characterize him as a person who is unable to admin that he was wrong. and admin the he lied in order to cover the shortage of masks for medical personnel and complete unpreparedness of the country to the epidemic.
He also look like a boy who cried "wolf,wolf" way to many time, when no wolf was around.
This guy did absolutely nothing to understand and prepare for the epidemic from January to Late March and then pushed for excessive measures like total quarantine. he should be fired for incompetence. He is implicitly guilty for Ciumo idiotism in NY (horror hospital beds are running out we need million of ventilators) and similar idiotism in NJ and other parts of the country, which unnecessary closed businesses where wearing masks would suffice.
This charlatan never admitted his role in promotion of "gain of function" experiments and financing them in Wuhan biolab.
Jun 19, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News,.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the polarising director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, slammed everyday Americans for refusing to go along with 'authority' on medical matters, and accused people of 'amazing denial' when it comes to 'truth'.

Speaking on a podcast called Learning Curve , produced by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Fauci charged that "unfortunately, there is a combination of an anti-science bias that people are -- for reasons that sometimes are, you know, inconceivable and not understandable -- they just don't believe science and they don't believe authority."

"So when they see someone up in the White House, which has an air of authority to it, who's talking about science, that there are some people who just don't believe that -- and that's unfortunate because, you know, science is truth, " Fauci asserted.

"It's amazing sometimes the denial there is, it's the same thing that gets people who are anti-vaxxers , who don't want people to get vaccinated, even though the data clearly indicate the safety of vaccines," Fauci proclaimed, adding "That's really a problem."

https://open.spotify.com/embed-podcast/episode/2wIL0rfSosidScjE5ykR8U

Perhaps the real reason Americans don't trust Fauci is that he's consistently flip flopped and contradicted himself on 'the truth' for months.

The man also exudes authoritarianism , and clearly has a problem with anyone who questions his superiority .

Fauci also has a long history of being the front man for a network of powerful Big Pharma and Big Medicine interests, pushing vaccines and medicines in a clear conflict of interest.

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Following Fauci's blame-scaping the anti-science bias of (implicitly ignorant) Americans, Thiel Capital MD Eric Weinstein unleashed a barrage of uncomfortable truths on Twitter

How dare this man.

Do you want to know why they are learning to hate scientists for real Dr Fauci?

Because your group lies about science & your ilk drove the truth telling scientists out of their rightful places inside the institutions calling bullshit on your lying about masks. pic.twitter.com/VJLTGT0GOe

-- Eric Weinstein (@EricRWeinstein) June 18, 2020

Scientists like me who don't go along with cowards & crowds cannot disrupt your group's lies because we are outside. Imagine if I was tweeting from the National Science Foundation or MIT. It would be a national news story about how your cabal lies and degrades faith in science: https://t.co/leYsCerG3o

-- Eric Weinstein (@EricRWeinstein) June 18, 2020

Weinstein went on:

"But you prattle on. We will one day find out later that you suspected all along that the Wuhan BS-L 4 virology lab might well be involved, but that you didn't say so for this or that political reason.

Because you aren't a scientist. You play one. You are an MD turned actor.

Even when I agree with the conclusions of your institutional pseudo science cabal, you cheat to get to our shared conclusions on vaccines, viruses, climate, etc.

So you want people to believe in science again? Ok. Call-yourself-out. Admit that your crowd **lied** about our masks.

And not to put too fine a point on it: your group is sitting in chairs reserved for people who don't do what your cabal just did.

You just don't have what it takes sir. I'm sorry. But science isn't acting. It's not a beauty pagent. It's not politics.

Science requires courage ."

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Whoa Dammit , 2 minutes ago

Like the other many things that Mr.Fauci has gotten wrong, he fails to recognize the truth that Americans don't believe him

Boing_Snap , 6 minutes ago

People don't believe Fauci, never been in the real world, vaccine patent holder,

TruthHunter , 6 minutes ago

Fauci, you're not a scientist. You're a politician...stop whining when you're treated like one

JoePorkChop , 6 minutes ago

Are scientists and authority some incorruptible special breed? A very skeptical eye towards any power structure is very neccesary, always.

artytom , 6 minutes ago

Good man Weinstein.

HowardBeale , 7 minutes ago

Is he phucking joking? Fauci has no idea what Fauci will say tomorrow...

SuperareDolo , 8 minutes ago

I don't know if it would surprise Fauci to know that the majority of epidemiologists are among those he says, "Don't believe in science, or authority."

Combining those two terms is very telling. Science is skeptical empiricism, not belief. It's kind of self-contradictory to believe in conclusions, since he's not talking about belief in the validity of skeptical empiricism. He's talking about his authority, which he wants people to believe in, because he's a scientist. That's technocracy, and nobody should accept that.

diogi23 , 9 minutes ago

Fauci is the John Bolton of science. Why does Trump keep him around??

aelfheld , 6 minutes ago

Science is a process, not 'revealed wisdom'.

I d----d sure don't put much faith in scientists who try to speak ex cathedra .

ze_vodka , 11 minutes ago

I require evidence based reasoning to be presented for Science...

and

I require that those who seek to be called an "Authority" demonstrate the ability to lead well with kindness and humility.

So...

I firmly reject arbitrary Totalitarianism... which is exactly what Fauci espouses and proclaims.

Demystified , 12 minutes ago

Fauci is a medical MEATBALL, his credibility is in the toilet. A Flush is needed urgently.

ze_vodka , 11 minutes ago

I require evidence based reasoning to be presented for Science...

and

I require that those who seek to be called an "Authority" demonstrate the ability to lead well with kindness and humility.

So...

I firmly reject arbitrary Totalitarianism... which is exactly what Fauci espouses and proclaims.

Demystified , 12 minutes ago

Fauci is a medical MEATBALL, his credibility is in the toilet. A Flush is needed urgently.

YouThePeople , 13 minutes ago

Fauxi is a corrupted paid stooge...and a bad actor.

Slayer666 , 14 minutes ago

Old School Americans aren't very fond of blindly following authority. They/We have a rebellious streak. That's why the globalists/NWO want to import a new, more docile population. But if America falls, don't expect the rest of the world to remain the same. Yeah I know a lot of people would welcome that, but don't be too sure that what comes into that power vacuum wouldn't be way worse.

hugin-o-munin , 6 minutes ago

There is a big difference in allowing the US economy to fail and having the US fail. Two different things. In fact I think the best remedy to the current hyper corrupt system is to let the dollar implode. That removes these fvckers' power in a clean sweep move and then something more genuine and honest can take its place.

Distant_Star , 15 minutes ago

What ********. I believe in Newton's laws of motion. I believe in the laws of thermodynamics and many other scientific rules. I believe in the periodic table. I believe in Avogadro's number and Boyle's Law.

I don't believe in the "China model" that Fauchi, the corrupt WHO, the inept CDC with their flawed Chinese test kits and the progressive politicians worshipped from day 1. I don't believe it was necessary to lock down whole populations. I don't believe in the political jihad against hydroxychloriquine because Trump said it might have value, mounds of anecdotal evidence supported its use, and many physicians endorse it.

I don't subscribe to the globalist horesehit from the Gates Foundation with his push for undeveloped vaccines and quantum dots, and statements that, "we have to vaccinate 6 billion people." I have contempt for craven people who demand that everyone else be locked down for their benefit, and whine about how "We can never go back to the way it was. Boo-hoo."

I question the ever changing, often contradictory narrative on this virus. I heap scorn on their wildly inaccurate models that caused this economic and social disaster. I call horse**** on the "scientists" and progressive authoritarians who joyfully locked down populations and businesses when it was not necessary. These same fools then remained totally silent when thugs, demonstrators, looters, arsonists, anarchists and mobs filled the street for a "higher cause." I condemn those such as the "hero" Andrew Cuomo who put infected people into nursing homes where old and vulnerable people died by the thousands for no reason. I guess that makes me and millions of others science "deniers." On the other hand, maybe ordinary people know a ship of floundering fools when they see one, and express genuine concern. You don't need scientific method to see a disaster in motion. Screw Fauchi.

theboxseat , 12 minutes ago

I believe in:

Fool me once shame on you...

Darn who can remember Dubya's version of this

LA_Goldbug , 11 minutes ago

He's busy looking for WMD with Colon Powell in Iraq. He'll be back in 50 yrs. because it is there and he will not stop looking.

ken , 9 minutes ago

Lies, just remember the lies, and that stupid look on his face while he tells them.

hugin-o-munin , 5 minutes ago

“There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

Rocbottom , 15 minutes ago

SCIENCE doesn’t say jack ****. SCIENTISTS do. And this “scientist” is a PROPAGANDIST not a doctor. THAT IS WHY no one believes what he says. He’s a paid liar.

SteveNYC , 18 minutes ago

Joke of the day "American don't believe authority"

Tony, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? When you've been lied to, on a massive scale since 2001, additional lies of which were put on steroids starting in 2016 - you'd be a FOOL to believe "authority" or "EXPERTS" like you pal.

It's over.

k3g , 11 minutes ago

Lives Matter.

hugin-o-munin , 10 minutes ago

You must be a racist. :)

ken , 3 minutes ago

...not so much according to the Georgia Guidestones, the BMGF, U.S. Foreign Policy, and the sacrificial babies used in blackmail to force it, by Israel.

sun tzu , 21 minutes ago

What science told the states in the northeast to send thousands of infected patients into nursing homes?

Trezrek500 , 22 minutes ago

Science isn't about blind ideology.

B52Minot , 23 minutes ago

Faucci is nothing but a spoiled brat....and now he has a tantrum because Americans could care less about what he says....why?? he wonders....Because Faucci has shown us the dark side of science....how it can ruin you if you make the wrong decision about its true validity. If we knew that the original estimate of deaths from COVID was a fraud Trump would never had declared an emergency and agreed with a shut down....This entire COVID response has been one big disaster....and a fraud with Faucci out there thinking he runs the place...

Time after time HE HAS BEEN WRONG..and his trust in the WHO and CHINA too has been corrupted if not a fraud too...SO WHY IS HE STILL TRYING TO TELL US WHAT TO DO....Because he thinks he is some sort of expert yet so flawed it oozes out of every pore...and NO ONE should listen to him on anything. Just another crying kid having a tantrum....GO HOME and retire Faucci...you really are worthless...and shut the hell up.

sun tzu , 24 minutes ago

Science is the truth, but scientists can and do lie.

BAMCIS , 24 minutes ago

Science has a PR problem. Mainly due to it only being accountable to itself and the fact that for all it lofty aspirations, Science has not been able to achieve escape volatility from the bounds of corruption that only Big Money can impose.

Plus Americans are culturally hard wired to view Science as an enemy. Luke, a dumb hick farmer who used his faith and tenacity to destroy the crown jewel of the evil technocrats, namely the Death Star. In most (if not all) James Bond movies the villains are mad scientists or industrialists using science for "evil". In "The Hunger Games", Katniss Everdean is again a bumpkin who wages war against the fancy people with their shiny tech in their decadent cities. Its the Urban/Rural dichotomy. Same as it ever was.

bh2 , 27 minutes ago

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." -- Feynman

vampirekiller , 29 minutes ago

No one believes a queertard that attempted to attribute a 100% preventable queer disease confined to the queer population to the majority heterosexual population. No one believes a queertard when current empirical data refutes his fearmongering.

Lux , 29 minutes ago

I'm still wondering why Fauci is even alive. Then again, the entire Pentagon is populated by traitors with offshore bank accounts, so..

smacker , 33 minutes ago

Someone needs to tell Fauci the reason why people don't believe the science is because it keeps changing and contradicts itself.

There is no centre of competence on this virus and conflicting advice, including from him.

Voice-of-Reason , 35 minutes ago

Science originally said we didn't need masks and now we do. The problem I have with Mr Fauci's form of science is that it is too easily manipulated by politics.

adr , 38 minutes ago

Hey Fauchole, is this science?

Upwards of 60% of people have natural immunity to Covid due to antibodies produced from four or more common coronaviruses.

I reject your "science" and replace it with real research.

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30610-3

Rest Easy , 38 minutes ago

Well, yeah Dr. Fausti. We certainly did believe you. We didn't want to. But we are playing along. You know like at work. And like living like free citizens in a supposedly free country. By obliging you with shut-ins and shutdowns. And you terrorizing and bankrupting millions. Yeah I think we played along. And had faith in government and science. Cuz you said so. And would jail or punish those who did not. Take kids away. Send swat. Stuff like that. Had bills to pay. Those bills just keep on coming. And the nerve of those people wanting to like pay them! On time!

Government is only effective with the consent of the governed. You should know that. You should also say something about how that was shown to be very selective enforcement. Cuz riots or something. Do or don't matter? Confusing. They apparently can live of a billion dollars from bank of America and starkbucks and Wal-Mart. Or just not pay their bills at all. Or work. At a job. Where you have to show up on time, wear a mask and not burn **** down. Stuff like that.

You are throwing a tantrum. Because everyone, not quite everyone. Still doesn't obey you. Enough. To willingly line up for your vaccine. When it is ready. Of course. Seeing a little scary times ahead for your authority. Who do you answer to Dr. Fausti? Are they getting a little hot under your collar? Cuz science, right? Is what you most believe in. Not like something else. And as long as we are here. Why do you work for Trump? Or more to the point. Why does he employ you? Very confusing. Since he wants to maga. Supposedly.

Hal n back , 41 minutes ago

I wonder how he treats his subordinates who have different views

R2U2 , 40 minutes ago

Webster’s Dictionary, 1828:

JES'UITISM, noun

1. Cunning, deceit; hypocrisy; prevarication; deceptive practices to effect a purpose

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/jesuitism

"Two cankers are biting the very entrails of the United States today: the Romish and the Mormon priests. Both are quietly at work to form a people of the most abject, ignorant and fanatical slaves, who will recognize no other authority but their supreme pontiffs. Both are aiming at the destruction of our schools, to raise themselves upon our ruins. Both shelter themselves under our grand and holy principles of liberty of conscience, to destroy that very liberty of conscience, and bind the world before their heavy and ignominious yoke.

The Mormon and the Jesuit priests are equally the uncompromising enemies of our constitution and our laws; but the more dangerous of the two is the Jesuit—the Romish priest, for he knows better how to conceal his hatred under the mask of friendship and public good; he is better trained to commit the most cruel and diabolical deeds for the glory of God.”
--Abraham Lincoln, 1864; "Fifty Years in the Church of Rome,” Charles Chiniquy, 1888.

The CIA is roughly half Mormon and half Roman Catholic.

Stan Smith , 43 minutes ago

The reason people don't trust institutions is because they fail us time and time again.

All why sucking up resources for research (good) and making sure people inside the system are taken care of (less good).

The more Fauci talks the more he sounds like Al Gore. Not a good thing.

Lying about masks was bad. But lying about HC + Zinc is worse, at least in my mind.

To be fair to Fauci, that industry isnt the only one filled with dishonest schiesters.

They are everywhere.

Institutions aren't trusted because they've earned the distrust over decades. It's well earned.

Sid Davis , 46 minutes ago

Fauci is a complete fraud.

He graduated from medical school and then spent 2 years working in hospitals. That is the extent of his medical experience. For the last 50 years he has been a bureaucrat. He obviously has a conflict of interest because of his ties to the Gates Foundation, Big Pharma, and the Wuhan Lab where this mess started.

This guy belongs at the end of a rope, not at the top of the response team to this scamdemic.

He is a sociopathic conman, and not even very good at that.

Stillontheroad , 50 minutes ago

Hey Fucci. How much money to you stand to gain from all your patents, all granted when you worked for the Federal Government but because you had friends in Congress a law was passed giving you the proceeds from those patents when in the real world said patents belong to the USA

Voice-of-Reason , 52 minutes ago

Mr. Fauci,

We believe science. We just don't believe governmental controlled shutdowns are the answer to this pandemic and that it ultimately does more damage to the economy than it protects people from Covid19. And yes, we do not believe authority because they lie constantly, are corrupt and generally are incompetent.

Krink26 , 53 minutes ago

When authorities weaponized everything including science, for political gain, people will not trust your authority.

VideoEng_NC , 53 minutes ago

"Speaking on a podcast..."

This is the level of media Fauci seems to be relegated to plus his ever-welcoming friends for interviews with the MSM. Would appear Hungarian Pengos here on ZH was correct on his 05/21 post regarding the ulterior motives behind the announcement of Pence staffers getting the Wuhan virus making Fauci self isolate...for good. He doesn't even get to bake tree cookies.

Longdriver , 1 hour ago

Fauci's true colors are being shown now. He's getting testy because he is watching his future personal profits go up in smoke in controlled vaccines.

DoctorFix , 1 hour ago

"Dont believe science"? Sure, Dr. Falsey! I believe in the "science" you represent. The science of lies and criminal deception. The science of propaganda and manipulation. The kind of sciences that you wholeheartedly embrace.

k3g , 1 hour ago

Fauci's turn came, and he proved himself to be incompetent, a bureaucrat, a fraud.

**** you Tony. You flat out suck.

What is The Hedge , 1 hour ago

What Fauci is really saying is that Americans are no longer accepting the false narratives promoted by those in charge. Maybe there's hope.

Lumberjack , 1 hour ago

Mr. Fauci;

I’m your age and have a pretty strong background in engineering, science and some other practical skills.

Over the last 30 years science has been bastardized by politicization and liberalism has finally reached the point of teaching kids 2+3= anything they want.

Political science is based on fraud and bull$hit and now the real deal is as contaminated as Fukushima.

Your comment about “authotity” screams of idiocracy. Try watering your crops with gatorade and fertilizing with MDMA.

I know and knew real Phd’s who were real scientists and that’s when science was based on theory, tests, duplication and verification.

That is no longer the case. It’s idiots like you, book smart field stupid ( I’m being kind with book smart), The only thing you a$$wipes are looking for is 10 minutes of fame, a bunch of money and molesting your interns and students with big boobs that need a passing grade.

When as usual your astrological prognotications are bad (which are 99% of the time), you find convenient parties to blame.

It’s time to put real science into both science and leadership.

I have high hopes that this will happen sooner rather than later.

Kid’s take note and see how many times they claimed eggs are bad for you and then they said eggs are good for you. That goes for many other items and issues too.

Yesireebob, You screwed the pooch Mr. Fauci and I’m calling PETA right now.

Lj

NotAGenius , 1 hour ago

Why the hell does ZH give Fauci the incredibly dishonest cruel idiot any venue. He's a liar and is the cause of the destruction of the USA by telling Trump we'd have a million covid-19 deaths unless it was shut down and everyone stayed home. So Trump wiped out the country and all of our lives on Fauci's b.s. That is what Fauci is, at best. Do not give him any public platform to lie even more yet to the cowardly stupid clueless Americans. Fauci does not deserve any recognition or platform for lies anywhere in the USA. But he's given the stage because the government apparently supports his lies. They are all guilty of treason and mass destruction of civilization. I want both executed at best, or at least humiliated with public avoidance.

brian91145 , 1 hour ago

he is owned by the Rockefllers and Gates. That's a fact

radical-extremist , 1 hour ago

Scientists that can never bring themselves to say "I don't know." , are not scientists...they're blathering charlatans pumping their brand and feeding their egos. Fauci is much like Paul Krugman. He speaks with such confidence and certainty about everything, that surely he must be right. And when proven wrong will do it again with the opposing view, ignoring the fact he ever said it to begin with...as if there's no internet.

SurfingUSA , 1 hour ago

Yes true scientists are extremely humble and cautious, bec. they know how much they don't know.

FragNasty , 1 hour ago

Hee hee, greatings to all.

Science is meant to be based on evidence rather than faith. Maybe Fauci himself doesn't believe in science with his inclination to the contrary. "Americans don't believe ..." The man is a maniac! Maybe he is accidentally confessing to the state of "science" as a counterpart to religion in it's role as an ideological control mechanism within the state of politics today, more precisely the breakdown of such a control mechanism.

Often is man's best wisdom to be silent , 1 hour ago

Marionettes can easily be transformed into hanged persons. The ropes are already there.

Stanislaw Jerzy Lec

BaNNeD oN THe RuN , 1 hour ago

He is right...

Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.

~ Isaac Asimov

But he is also one of the reasons that the anti-intellectual movement can maintain momentum. Too many of the "authoritative voices" in positions of power are total charlatans.

Itchy and Scratchy , 1 hour ago

This yap flappin’ freak show in on the board of Gates controlled WHO & various other big pharma boards! His crooked snoot is buried so far into the cash flow trough it ain’t even funny! Embezzlement poster child!

Handful of Dust , 1 hour ago

"Fauci the Fraud" will go down in history who will not remember him kindly.

Totally_Disillusioned , 1 hour ago

Fauci doesn't seem to understand WE DON'T BELIEVE HIM ANY LONGER!

SuperareDolo , 6 minutes ago

You never should have believed him. He was behind the attempt to steal credit for the discovery of HIV by his underling, Gallo. There's a long story there.

Yog Soggoth , 1 hour ago

I believe Fauci gave the Wuhan lab $3.7 million.

We_The_People , 1 hour ago

That’s not entirely true, we just believe fraudulent agenda driven traitors like you!

Fauci’s estimates were so off that the only 2 conclusions can be formed, gross negligence or intentional deception, either way he has zero credibility left!

[Jun 19, 2020] I Warned About the COVID and Now I Feel Like a Fool

Notable quotes:
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Jun 15, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

We do still need to worry about the coronavirus's spread. But how can we when the experts have completely forsaken our trust? Dr. Anthony Fauci (L), director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases speaks next to Response coordinator for White House Coronavirus Task Force Deborah Birx, during a meeting with US President Donald Trump and Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards D-LA in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, DC on April 29, 2020. (Photo by MANDEL NGAN/AFP via Getty Images)

Since the pandemic began, I've been described as a so-called "COVID warrior," which makes some sense. After all, I've defended the shutdowns of large gatherings. I've insisted that it's wise to temporarily close churches and postpone funerals and other ceremonies. I've argued that extreme caution is necessary -- that to do anything else would be to blatantly and selfishly ignore the scientific information at our disposal. I've held the opinion that, although it has caused irrevocable harm to the economy and caused millions of people to suffer, business owners who close up shop for fear of spreading contagion are in the right.

Now I feel like a fool.

By no means am I a coronavirus denier -- more than 100,000 and counting have died from the COVID. But with conflicting reports about everything from wearing masks to the spread of the virus through surfaces coming out of the World Health Organization and the CDC almost weekly, my head is spinning. Nothing seems to make sense anymore.

For fear of spreading the virus, health experts have consistently recommended shutting down and avoiding public spaces, including schools , playgrounds , public pools , and public transportation . They've also advocated for limiting large gatherings and closing anything that might draw crowds. It's advice that's been repeated for months -- to the point that those ignoring it have been reviled and accused of experimenting with " human sacrifice ."

That's because asymptomatic carriers of the virus, though they may feel all right themselves, can become mass spreaders of the deadly contagion, especially in large groups. This is why Michigan residents protesting their state's lockdown in Lansing were deserving of shame -- they likely caused mass immiseration and sickness, right?

Wrong. Turns out, health officials didn't really believe any of that.

Just last week, the WHO announced that it's extremely rare for asymptomatic spreading of the coronavirus to occur. If you feel fine, then you're probably not a grave threat to anyone, especially if you're wearing a mask and gloves. Then the WHO backtracked on that statement, ultimately arriving at the completely unhelpful determination that " this is a major unknown ." Health experts simply don't know to what extent the disease is transmitted by asymptomatic carriers -- yet they still feel confident that the risks of the coronavirus shouldn't impact our protesting of police brutality.

One rightly wonders how, within a span of weeks, we went from shaming people for being out in the streets to shaming those who won't join the crowd .

What's more, contact with infected animals and surfaces is unlikely to cause COVID-19 to spread, and chlorine kills the virus upon contact, so clean pools are also safe. But of course, many schools, playgrounds, pools, and businesses were forced to close.

Livelihoods have been destroyed, children are paying a high price through a loss of time and key social-educational development, and mental health across the country is on the decline .

And now some journalists from prominent publications -- the same ones that have been demanding oh-so-extreme caution -- are performing breathtaking gymnastics in an effort to backtrack, explaining that there's no evidence of outdoor coronavirus spread. Now, it's "prolonged indoor close contact" that we have to worry about.

They may be right. Maybe protesters really shouldn't worry (though they probably should ). But that doesn't excuse what seems to be a disgusting hypocrisy that trampled on the livelihoods of more than 30 million Americans. Understandably, many are outraged and have lost all faith in the experts.

Health advice can't shift with politics -- COVID-19, cancer, and the flu don't know party lines. The virus is either unmanageable or manageable. That's it.

Now, with Trump aiming to restart his so-called "MAGA rallies," we'll inevitably have -- and already have had -- another round of tut-tutting from the media about how horribly irresponsible it is to gather in crowds. But who can possibly blame those who shrug these warnings off? MAGA rallies very well could spread COVID-19, but in the event they do, the George Floyd protests will be equally culpable. Expert credibility has been lost.

Maybe we should, as many of my more classically liberal friends have been saying all along, allow people to make their own choices, take their own risks, open their own businesses back up, hold their own protests against injustice.

Whatever the case, given the whiplash the public has experienced over these past few weeks, we certainly won't be running to health experts as readily as before. Certainly, social distancing practices have helped flatten the curve, but living your life based on the inconsistent messaging of the WHO and the CDC is a recipe for disaster. If a second wave does appear, it will be cautious individuals and community innovation that provides the solutions -- not those who have done nothing to earn our trust.

Anthony DiMauro is a freelance writer based in New York City. His work has appeared in The National Interest , Real Clear Media, and elsewhere. You can follow him on Twitter @AnthonyMDiMauro.

[Jun 17, 2020] Fauci admitted that US government lied to people about efficiently of wearing masks as individual protection

He admitted that their initial recommendation were dictated by lack of masks. The sheer dishonesty of Fauci is staggering. He should go.
Jun 17, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Ash87 , 12 hours ago

Absolutely nothing about how the US has responded to the Corona Virus could be mistaken for being based on data. I mean getting into the "spike" people are talking about, in Alabama where I live this is no spike, this is a continuation of the trend we've been seeing since March. Cases never significantly declined, and instead we've just seen steady growth in deaths, active cases, and new cases.

The increases we've seen have followed 2 weeks after what was basically the final wave to reopening (Which, really isn't, but public perception was that life could go back to normal based on statements from the state), almost perfectly. I am sure we'll see trends continue as protesters who were exposed start getting sick. It will just compound with the day to day effect that can easily be directed at the miscommunication of what the threat is to the public.

Make no mistake, Saagar is right to be annoyed but there is Nothing here that has been handled remotely well. Nobody communicated this well, nobody planned well, nobody reopened well. Front to back, top to bottom this has been an embarrassing failure for the US.

Tyler Hackner , 13 hours ago

The media establishment is gonna pay the price for its misinformation and lack of data

mrfrosty3 , 13 hours ago

Glenn Greenwald's video on the intercept about this was excellent. The medical and public health establishment need to be neutral, people aren't going to trust them again.

Jack Bradford , 12 hours ago

Common sense tells you that nurses doctors and dentists wear masks for a reason you dont need a Fake Media to tell you anything.

Luckyleft13 , 10 hours ago

Dave Chappelle pointed out in his latest standup that those we depend upon for information lie to us. CNN, Fox News and the like are all meant to polarize the citizens. Obviously it has been working!

cptbacon35 , 11 hours ago

I had this discussion with my best friend in March. I was questioning how is it the masks can be useless for those trying to prevent infections, but was efficient for those that had infection. Yet medical workers were using surgical masks while working around covid patients. It was easy to conclude that it was to prevent panic buying. Even if the MSM was truthful (I do not condone them lying), IMO people would have still bought out all of the masks. Just as they did with all the toilet paper and hand sanitizer.

[Jun 13, 2020] How the Lockdowns Emerged

Jun 13, 2020 | www.serendipity.li

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The origin of this panic seems to have been a report from CNN on January 26 of an alleged statement by China's health minister Ma Xiaowei that people who are (supposedly) infected by the virus can infect others without themselves showing any symptoms of illness. If that were true then you could be infected just by walking down the street -- clearly a reason to panic. Ma didn't explain why he thought the virus can be spread before someone has symptoms, but that didn't stop Dr. William Schaffner, a longtime adviser to the CDC, from taking this claim seriously -- in effect endorsing it. Other CDC officials took up the theme. Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases picked up the ball and ran with it. Dr. Fauci is quoted as saying, "the Chinese did not tell U.S. health authorities that the virus could spread before someone is symptomatic", thus implicitly suggesting that indeed that was the case. This was denied by epidemiologist Dr. Michael Osterholm, who stated, "I know of no evidence in 17 years of working with coronaviruses ... where anyone has been found to be infectious during their incubation period." On January 30 the New England Journal of Medicine published a letter from 16 German doctors claiming that a symptomless Chinese woman (arriving from China) had infected a German man in Munich, but when they got around to actually asking her, she said that while in Munich she had in fact shown symptoms, which worsened on her return to China. Thanks to CNN, Dr. Fauci,and the German doctors, the rumor of symptomless transition morphed into "fact" among government officials and the general public. From then on the MSM issued increasingly alarming reports of deaths due to this (allegedly) new illness, ignoring the fact that people were (as usual) dying of the (not reported) seasonal flu.

John Nolte: Dr. Fauci Is Either a Liar or a Fraud And for a devastating exposé of the 36-year career of this vile quack doctor see the final article in William Engdahl's Covid article compilation here .

In February, as Italy began reporting infections, Prof. Neil Ferguson, Head of the Department of Infectious Disease Epidemiology at Imperial College London, dusted off a computer program he had written 15 years ago implementing a model for infectious disease spreading. Using data available from Italy he concluded (following his history of vastly over-estimating deaths in previous epidemics) that 510,000 people (2.5 million in the U.S.) could die if the U.K. government didn't abandon its strategy at that time of allowing the disease to spread. On February 23 in Italy the first lockdowns and compulsory "social distancing" began. Early in March Britain also imposed lockdowns, later extended to the entire U.K., despite the fact that Prof. Ferguson had revised his death toll estimate from 510,000 down to 20,000.

The term "lockdown" normally means keeping prisoners locked down in their cells, typically following a riot. It was also used in the MSM following the Boston Marathon Bombing in 2013 (likely a false flag) to confine people to their homes until given permission to come out -- a trial run?

On March 7 one Dr. James Lawler (U. of University Medical Center) misinformed the world (to the delight of the MSM) that about 96 million Americans could become infected with coronavirus, of whom about half a million would die. On March 11 the WHO, after much delay, declared COVID-19 a global pandemic. On March 15 New York mayor Bill de Blasio declared (with no evidence) that the virus can spread rapidly through "close interactions," and issued an order (which was soon after repeated by governors of many other states) to close restaurants, bars and cafes. On March 16 most European countries imposed lockdowns and border closures. On March 20 New York Governor Andrew Cuomo (along with governors of many other states) shut down all "non-essential businesses", thereby depriving millions of people of their jobs and their livelihoods, leading to bankruptcies and suicides. By March 30 approximately 265 million Americans were under indefinite lockdown and martial law in all but name.

In late April a 'revised' version of the computer code written by Ferguson to predict 510,000 deaths in the U.K. was released to the GitHub code repository. It was examined by an anonymous ex-Google software engineer, who found numerous flaws and bugs, in particular that, from the same input data the program would produce very different outputs. This makes it useless for scientific purposes, and also worse than useless as a basis for political decisions (and consequently as a justification for government orders). Further details at Computer model that locked down the world turns out to be sh*tcode.

A comment (by Frito) on Zero Hedge about Ferguson's shoddy code:
The thing that really has me pissed off, is that my government [the U.K.] (and many others around the world), jumped in and spent hundreds of billions of dollars and suspended the civil liberties of millions of people indefinitely and destroyed the livelihoods of countless small business people based on just one unverified source [that is, Ferguson]. There was ZERO due diligence done. The first thing that should have been done was to require the production of the full source code for the simulation software (as it was run, not this "cleaned up" stuff), and all input data so that it could be verified. If they didn't want to provide it, then the simulation results should have been discarded.

Ferguson's "scientific" advice was bogus, and Boris Johnson was criminally negligent in accepting it and ordering the lockdown of the entire U.K. But will they ever see jail time for wrecking the U.K. economy and ruining the lives of millions of people? No way.

[Jun 13, 2020] CDC Reiterates Mask Recommendations as Virus Continues to Spread - Bloomberg

Admitting their own blunder: Better late then never
Jun 13, 2020 | www.bloomberg.com

Masks "are strongly encouraged in settings where individuals might raise their voice," the CDC guidance said.

The agency also recommended limiting attendance to allow for distancing.

[Jun 12, 2020] How A German City Proved That Wearing Masks Works

The mask problem in the USA has a much simpler origin: the USA simply don't have the means to give masks for everyone anymore. It is heavily deindustrialized.
The CDC actually advised against wearing masks until April 6, even though there were studies showing that some types of home-made masks were 70% effective against molecules the size of Corona. N95 were found to be 95% effective.
Jun 11, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Coronavirus - How A German City Proved That Wearing Masks Works Blue Dotterel , Jun 11 2020 19:09 utc | 1

A new study shows that mandatory mask wearing is the most effective measure during the Covid-19 epidemic.

On March 23 we started to urge everyone to wear masks during the Covid-19 pandemic:

Wearing a mask helps with protecting oneself but even more importantly helps to protect others. One might be carrying and spreading the disease without knowing it. We all release fine droplets when we speak, sneeze or cough. Masks prevent one's droplets from spreading out.

There was and still is a lot of cultural resistance in 'western' societies to wearing masks even as it seem obvious that masks help to prevent infections. But while there was evidence that masks work in certain situation there was no scientific research that showed the effects general mask wearing would have on the growth of the epidemic. We did not know how much general mask wearing would 'flatten the curve'.

We now have a sound answer. There is now a study that compares a city which ordered everyone to wear masks with a similar city that had no 'mask-up' order during the same period of the epidemic.

On April 6 the German city of Jena with a population of 110,000 people ordered everyone to wear a mask in all public settings. The announcement of the order was made a week earlier and was followed by a local awareness campaign - "Jena wears mask!"

No other city in Germany did this at the time. The states of Germany only ordered mandatory mask wearing between April 22 and 26.

For 20 days Jena was different than the rest of the country but experienced the same epidemic. That made it possible to test the effect the mask order had on the number of new cases in Jena.

To be able to make a one to one comparison with Jena researchers from the University of Mainz constructed a 'synthetic city' of the same size and demographic characteristics as Jena from the weighted data of six other German cities (selected from a bigger pool). They then compared the Covid-19 case data from Jena with the case data from the synthetic city.

At the beginning of the pandemic in Germany the synthetic city and Jena had similar developments. But ten days after the announcement of the order and four days after its mandatory implementation the case numbers in Jena dropped away from those of the comparison city.


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The people in Jena started to wear masks before other German cities did so. It nearly immediately paid off.

At the time of the announcement of the mask campaign Jena and the synthetic control city each had 93 cases. On April 6 Jena had 142 registered cases compared to 143 cases in the synthetic control city. On April 26 Jena counted 158 cases and the synthetic control city had 205 cases. It shows a significant reduction in the growth of the epidemic.

The authors conclude:

We believe that the reduction in the growth rates of infections by 40% to 60% is our best estimate of the effects of face masks.
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We should also stress that 40 to 60% might still be a lower bound. The daily growth rates in the number of infections when face masks were introduced was around 2 to 3%. These are very low growth rates compared to the early days of the epidemic in Germany, where daily growth rates also lay above 50%. One might therefore conjecture that the effects might have been even greater if masks had been introduced earlier.

Japan and South Korea both brought the epidemic under control without ordering harsh lockdowns. The people there all wore masks from very early on even without being ordered to do so. The two countries also did extensive testing and contact tracing for each new case. Together these measures were enough to stop the outbreak.

Why didn't we copy them?

It was 'western' arrogance that prevented our societies from learning from China and other Asian societies. We should have used the time China had given us . The economic and human price for not having done so is very high. No doubt the masks help in preventing the spread when used properly, as well as gloves and distancing, but I wouldn't put too much faith in any studies.

The lockdown approaches themselves may have done more, but even those vary in method from one state to the next. Additionally, closing of borders to potential carriers from other countries seems important, as well as the virulence of the particular strain. Then there seems to be a massive divergence in counting and testing for the virus and recording virus deaths.

There are a lot of variables to control for an reliable study. And I seriously doubt any study has done so, particularly given the politicization of the crisis and the venal opportunism of Big Pharma and its bought and paid for medical journals.


Trailer Trash , Jun 11 2020 19:16 utc | 2

Western arrogance, sure, but is that the most important factor?

Since US peons live in a democracy, let's review the meeting minutes and memos and emails of our dear leaders to see what their thinking was. Oh wait. There are no meeting minutes. Everything is secret and opaque so as to not worry the pretty little heads of peons.

Guess we are once again reduced to speculation and gossip. Let the rumors begin.

vk , Jun 11 2020 19:34 utc | 3
I don't think the mask problem has anything to do with Western arrogance. Not at all.

The mask problem has a much simpler origin: the Western nations simply don't have the means to give masks for everyone anymore. It is heavily deindustrialized.

Had they had mask manufacturing sectors at home, you bet your soul the Western governments would be buying them at inflated prices (to enrich the local capitalist) and enforce their use with an enthusiasm never seen before. A cultural shift towards daily mask use would sprout overnight and no westerner would complain.

I know this because we have countless examples in History. The substitution of alcoholic beverages for tea in industrial England. The creation of the leisure and entertainment industries during the rise of Fordism. The invention of the concepts of infancy and adolescence. Etc. etc. etc.

We observed the lack of masks crisis in the West immediately. The USA begun to intercept ships loaded with masks (and ventilators) from China in Malaysia. Spain and France begun to resort to Aliexpress test kits to have the quantity necessary and lost the money with subpar masks and kits. Healthcare workers are without adequate PPE in the UK, USA and probably many other Western countries (at least, I've never seen any Western doctor or nurse with nearly the equipment of their Chinese counterparts).

The West's problem is called deindustrialization. Culture is always fixable - survival generally being the best teacher. But lack of resources cannot be solved just with sheer will.

Skeletor , Jun 11 2020 19:45 utc | 4
Why didn't we copy them?

Because everything is politics all the time.

Ergo amongst other things, your royal "we" also believed they could pin the deaths and economic pain on Trump alone and then ride that all the way to an election victory on November 3.

And now it has backfired/not gone as planned.

If journalists are worried about Covid-19 all over again, why don't they ask their beloved Fauci why he didn't tell the rioters and looters to wear a face mask or "social distance" during last week when they were all outside running amok and spreading Covid-19?

But he suddenly pops up this week and the fear mongering starts again... and the feeble fall in line again lol

Anyway. Maybe Dr Fauci will give a press conference next week dressed in Kente clothing....

I swear 2020 is like we are living in a simulation lol

JohnH , Jun 11 2020 19:59 utc | 5
The CDC actually advised against wearing masks until April 6, even though there were studies showing that some types of home-made masks were 70% effective against molecules the size of Corona. N95 were found to be 95% effective.

What stupidity!!! Who in his right mind would counsel against using a 75% effective mask, when it was the only readily available option?!?

It's like counseling against wearing condoms because they're not 100% effective.

The sheer incompetence boggles the mind.

Lubo , Jun 11 2020 20:17 utc | 6
Check this: https://youtu.be/yWsyNB95ljY
Leser , Jun 11 2020 20:26 utc | 7
The virus has peaked in Germany a long time ago and in fact before the lockdown. By now, herd immunity is reached, achieved by about half, or more, of the population not being susceptible to this type of coronavirus. A fair amount, perhaps 60%, never were due to background immunity from prior conoravirus infections, others have built it since, most of those without realising as symptoms or rare and if occurring, mostly mild. The authorities can find as many "cases" as they want, at any day they want, by adjusting testing activity. It's the most easily manipulated number. Seeing our host trust precisely that number (and base a story on it) from a government that has been persistently lying about this winter's flu, and has broken the constitution multiple times to ram through the measures, is surprising.

Deaths from delayed surgeries and medical treatments are estimated up to 125,000 - in Germany alone, suicides are already spiking. Abuse of children and women at home is at alarming levels, doctors report injuries so severe as usually seen in car crashs.

The measures are nothing short of carefully planned (Event 201), premeditated mass murder.

What about masks? Here a snapshot of the science on it:

On the effectiveness of masks
Regardless of the comparatively low lethality of Covid19 in the general population (see above), there is still no scientific evidence for the effectiveness of masks in healthy and asymptomatic people in everyday life.

A cross-country study by the University of East Anglia came to the conclusion that a mask requirement was of no benefit and could even increase the risk of infection.

Two US professors and experts in respiratory and infection protection from the University of Illinois explain in an essay that respiratory masks have no effect in everyday life, neither as self-protection nor to protect third parties (so-called source control). The widespread use of masks didn't prevent the outbreak in the Chinese city of Wuhan, either.

A study from April 2020 in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine came to the conclusion that neither fabric masks nor surgical masks can prevent the spread of the Covid19 virus by coughing.

An article in the New England Journal of Medicine from May 2020 also comes to the conclusion that respiratory masks offer little or no protection in everyday life. The call for a mask requirement is described as an "irrational fear reflex".

A May 2020 meta-study on pandemic influenza published by the U.S. CDC also found that respirators had no effect.

The WHO moreover declared in June that truly "asymptomatic transmission" is in fact "very rare", as data from numerous countries showed. Some of the few confirmed cases were due to direct body contact, i.e. shaking hands or kissing.

In Austria, the mask requirement in retail and catering will be lifted again from mid-June. A mask requirement was never introduced in Sweden because it "does not offer additional protection for the population", as the health authority explained.

Richard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 20:30 utc | 8
And we must remember what Nassim Taleb pointed out...even if your mask is only 30% effective, if the person you're interacting with also has a mask which is only 30% effective, the multiplicative properties of probability means the actual probability of neither of you getting infected is much greater than 30%.

I ordered my first batch of ten masks from Aliexpress on April 4, followed by an order of five more (expensive ones at $7 each) from LA Police Gear on April 6 and five more from LAPG on April 14. So I have enough masks to rotate them daily for two weeks. So I don't have to worry about washing them or whatever, per the advice of the guy who invented the filter who said leaving a mask unused for at least 4-5 days should be sufficient to to enable any collected virus particles to die.

As for the study, I'm not sure it is reliable, given the possible factors surrounding entire cities. A "simulated city" just might not be accurate enough, especially when referring to relatively low numbers of cases per city. It would be more persuasive if there was a country that wore masks and one that didn't. But then we've already seen that: the US versus any Asian country.

In my observations, most people are wearing masks, but they seem to be doing so rather haphazardly. A lot of people wear them for a bit, then let them hang around their necks when they get tired of the heat buildup inside the mask. I had to stop yesterday during a supply run when my nose started running and I had to shift the mask off partly in order to deal with that. That made me concerned coming close to my nose with a tissue, not knowing whether there might be any virus particles on the plastic gloves covering my hands. Normally I don't touch my face when out of my room, and once back in the room I immediately wash my hands, remove the mask, then apply hand sanitizer. Interrupting that process did not make me happy.

A lot of people, especially blacks and the homeless, aren't wearing masks at all. The homeless obviously have little ability to acquire them (at least manufactured ones), and a certain number of lower-class blacks are seemingly oblivious to the risk, despite blacks being hit harder than whites by the virus.

Some Really Depressing Covid-19 Death Data
If they had died at the same rate as White Americans, at least 14,000 Black Americans would still be alive

And it's not likely to get much better in the summer:

Get Ready for a Long, Hot, Coronavirus Summer
Cases surge in several states as the coronavirus digs in for the long haul


In fact, the nationwide decline in "the curve" of daily new cases, from a peak of 35,000 in early April to around 20,000 in recent weeks, has been obfuscated by the fact that four states with 40% of the nationwide case total -- New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Illinois -- experienced significant declines.

"That is hiding the fact that the majority of other states are either increasing their numbers or fluctuating in fits and starts around a peak," says Mark Cameron, PhD, an immunologist and medical researcher in the School of Medicine at Case Western Reserve University in Ohio. "Our victory lap has started too quickly."

The nationwide curve was flattened thanks to stay-at-home orders and other preventive measures, Cameron says. But rather than continuing to bend the curve down, as many other countries have done, ours is on a "disappointing plateau," he says, a "slow burn" that's putting seeds of the virus in every nook and cranny of the country.

That means the current wave of infections could be far from over, Cameron says. It might simply persist at current daily case levels, or even possibly swell this summer and then, if it recedes at all, roar back as a larger wave this fall.

Leser , Jun 11 2020 20:32 utc | 9
..but: Despite this evidence, a group called "masks4all", which was founded by a "young leader" of the World Economic Forum (WEF) Davos, is advocating worldwide mask requirements. Several governments and the WHO appear to be responding to this campaign.

While for medical purposes it's a waste of time and resources (might even lead to additional health problems), the masks are more likely to have a psychological or political function ("muzzle" or "visible sign of obedience") and that wearing them frequently.

Richard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 20:33 utc | 10
Posted by: Leser | Jun 11 2020 20:26 utc | 7 The WHO moreover declared in June that truly "asymptomatic transmission" is in fact "very rare"

And a couple days later, they walked that back, after scientists everywhere were stunned by the stupid statement.

Anyone who thinks masks don't help is an idiot or has an agenda.

It's amazing how some people cherry pick their information.

Richard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 20:39 utc | 11
This is appropriate given Leser at 7

Confessions of a Reformed Coronavirus Skeptic
Humans like easy answers -- even if those answers contradict the facts


A few days ago, I was talking to someone for work, and they started ranting about how the "whole coronavirus thing" is a conspiracy. How it's blown out of proportion and isn't any worse than the seasonal flu. I inwardly rolled my eyes. Later that day, I mocked him while talking to my wife.

But not so long ago, I was that guy. Sure, he's got to have his fact-resistance turned up to a nine or ten to still be in denial at this point. But it would be hypocritical of me to get too self-congratulatory.

Noirette , Jun 11 2020 20:43 utc | 12
The WHO did not recommend the wearing of masks. Which was why for ex. Switz. did not at the start.

March 31. CNN.

WHO stands by recommendation to not wear masks if you are not sick or not caring for someone who is sick.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/30/world/coronavirus-who-masks-recommendation-trnd/index.html

April 7. Business Insider.

WHO says there is no need for healthy people to wear face masks, days after the CDC told all Americans to cover their faces.

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-no-need-for-healthy-people-to-wear-face-masks-2020-4?r=US&IR=T

May 28. Fox news.

WHO guidance: Healthy people should wear masks only when 'taking care of' coronavirus patients.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/who-guidance-healthy-people-wear-masks-around-coronavirus-patients

(MSM actually reflects advice not too badly; plus, it is what the public saw.)

April 6. WHO publishes 'interim guidance.' PDF.

excerpt.

"Studies of human coronaviruses provide evidence that the use of a medical mask can prevent the spread of infectious droplets from an infected person to someone else and potential contamination of the environment by these droplets. There is limited evidence that wearing a medical mask by healthy individuals in the households or among contacts of a sick patient, or among attendees of mass gatherings may be beneficial as a preventive measure. However, there is currently no evidence that wearing a mask (whether medical or other types) by healthy persons in the wider community setting, including universal community masking, can prevent them from infection with respiratory viruses, including COVID-19. .. Medical masks should be reserved for health care workers. .The use of medical masks in the community may create a false sense of security "

https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/331693/WHO-2019-nCov-IPC_Masks-2020.3-eng.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

for June I could not find any extra proper doc from WHO. see for ex.

https://bit.ly/37jK2cr -- WHO doc 5 june that only refers to previous doc.


Noirette , Jun 11 2020 20:47 utc | 13
the above is for info about WHO, I am not expressing a personal opinion.
poor moa , Jun 11 2020 20:47 utc | 14
"synthetic control city": total bullshit. So many arbitrary parameters you can get any result you like. Why not do a real comparison?

And: Japan had no "extensive testing and contact tracing" at all. In fact Japan had the LEAST testing of all industrial countries. No testing, no panic, no problems.

Wuhan is using way more masks than Japan (also due to air pollution). How did that stop the outbreak?? Not at all.

MoA has been consistently wrong with every aspect of this pandemic. Even worse, it totally failed to recognize the huge political dimension.

Richard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 20:48 utc | 15
Don't Ask What Caused the Spike in Cases -- Ask What the U.S. Will Do About Them
We likely won't know for certain where new cases are coming from. How the U.S. responds to those cases is what really matters.

Many states do not have the contact tracing capacity needed to reopen safely. At the beginning of May, NPR created a map of states whose contact tracing forces met the need estimated by public health officials, and the vast majority did not meet them. Some states are working to increase their contact tracing capacity, but some experts interviewed by STAT news cautioned that it's not enough.

Bottom line: The US botched the initial response by being too slow, and it is not botching the re-opening. We can assume it will botch the second wave. Trump has already said there will be no lockdown even for a second wave (not that it matters what he says now.)

It's like the old line: "Cheer up, things could be worse. So I cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse." Well, I didn't bother "cheering up" in the first place. My procedures to deal with this remain in place and will remain in place until there is 1) a vaccine, or 2) an effective treatment that prevents death and severe long-term effects of infection.

karlof1 , Jun 11 2020 20:48 utc | 16
Thanks b! The study proves the obvious, IMO. The behavior exhibited by those inhabiting Western nations proves the degree with which they care for themselves, their families, and their neighbors in the most damning manner. Clearly collectivist societies will perform better than individualist societies, all other things being equal.

Trailer Trash @2--

I beg to differ as there're two very good timelines documenting TrumpCo actions in the run up to the outbreak that proves beyond reasonable doubt that the policy employed was a Treasonous Do Nothing Policy that runs totally against the rationale for the Constitution and the government it established--the very instrument Trump swore to obey and uphold. I've incorporated both into the essay I'm currently writing. This one compiled by Raw Story is the more detailed of the two as this example shows:

"On February 1, 2018, the Washington Post reported that 'CDC to cut by 80 percent efforts to prevent global disease outbreak' (6): 'The global health section of the CDC was so drastically cut in 2018 that much of its staff was laid off (7) and the number of countries it was working in was reduced from 49 to merely 10. (8) Meanwhile, throughout 2018, the U.S. Agency for International Development and its director, Mark Green, came repeatedly under fire from both the White House and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. (9) And though Congress has so far managed to block Trump administration plans to cut the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps by 40 percent (10), the disease-fighting cadres have steadily eroded as retiring officers go unreplaced.'"

And as you see from the date, that was just the beginning of the dismantling of what was erected to "provide for the common defence."

Richard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 20:52 utc | 17
Posted by: poor moa | Jun 11 2020 20:47 utc | 14 Wuhan is using way more masks than Japan (also due to air pollution). How did that stop the outbreak?? Not at all.

When the outbreak started, Wuhan hospitals were not using KN95 - they were using surgical masks. Thousands of medical personnel were infected.

When the Chinese government brought in scores of thousands of additional medical personnel, they wore KN95 masks. None were infected.

Take your troll shit elsewhere.

poor moa , Jun 11 2020 20:55 utc | 18
Actually, the "study" you cite (it's not published anyway) refutes itself right away. They say all German cities introduced masks between April 20 and 29. Then why did cases not drop to zero as they claim for Jena? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Germany
Richard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 20:59 utc | 19
Arizona Could Be In Trouble. Here's What We Can Learn
Reopening without contact tracing is irresponsible

Cases in Arizona are up 240% in last two weeks and hospitalizations are up 77% this past month, 31% this week alone. The positive rate for Covid-19 testing is increasing. That's not a great combination.

The largest hospital system in the state has been ringing the alarm. That they are running short of ICU capacity. Loudly.

Meanwhile, other states and Puerto Rico have had their largest number of daily cases since this started, according to the Washington Post.

Yet we still have idiots proclaiming their bullshit here. b is going to have to do a lot of "cleansing" today.

Richard Steven Hack , Jun 11 2020 21:04 utc | 20
And repeating the facts about the latest WHO message disaster...before more trolls show up to spread bullshit.

What the WHO Really Meant Regarding Asymptomatic Spread
Clearing up major coronavirus confusion


Maria Van Kerkhove, PhD, the World Health Organization's technical lead for the coronavirus response and head of the emerging diseases and zoonoses unit, clarified that when she said asymptomatic spread was "very rare" on Monday, that she was answering a question asked in a presser, and not sharing an official WHO policy or statement.

She added that some modeling groups have estimated that 40% of transmission may be due to asymptomatic spread, but that is a mathematical modeling estimate and a definitive answer is still unknown, in part because data from contact tracing studies remains limited.

It's important to note that asymptomatic people who never exhibit signs of Covid-19 are different from pre-symptomatic people who initially don't have symptoms but develop them later. It's difficult, from a research standpoint, to tease these two groups apart.

poor moa , Jun 11 2020 21:06 utc | 21
It looks like they don't even control for the number of tests. Total junk.
uncle tungsten , Jun 11 2020 21:10 utc | 22
Masks are fine. They build confidence when people are threatened with an awful death and where 'experts' give conficting advice. They are personaly empowering. Wear one now.

The WHO is not looking good.
The Lancet and NEJM are trashed.
The China response was a brilliant example to the world.
The mask is a mighty useful response.
Sunlight is wonderful.

poor moa , Jun 11 2020 21:13 utc | 23
Alright, on page 28 in annex C they compare the effect of masks in other German cities, and found no effect. In some cities infections got even worse after introducing masks. It is clear Jena is a special case, perhaps they stopped testing or people stopped interacting or whatever.

The study is another fraud, and Moa once again fell for it. What a shame. I'm sure he didn't even read until page 28.

I hope you won't delete my comments, everybody should decide for themselves if this study has any merit.

poor moa , Jun 11 2020 21:18 utc | 24
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2020 20:52 utc | 17

Total bullshit. We're talking about standard face masks for the community here.

Read my other comments, the study is junk. You have been bamboozled.

poor moa , Jun 11 2020 21:27 utc | 25
The WHO stated the obvious: the vast majority of people remain asymptomatic, and asymptomatic people don't spread the virus (which is why children don't spread the virus). Pre-symptomatic is possible if you get really close, but this is true for common cold as well.

So what paranoid folks like you really need to show is if mandatory mask is any better than masks only for sick people or sick people simply staying home. Hint: it isn't.

poor moa , Jun 11 2020 21:32 utc | 26
Quote from the "study": "In addition to Jena, we test for treatment effects in Nordhausen, Rottweil, Main-Kinzig-Kreis, and Wolfsburg (compare Figure 1). --- As the figure shows, the result is 2:1:1. Rottweil and Wolfsburg display a positive effect of mandatory mask wearing, just as Jena. The results in Nordhausen are very small or unclear. In the region of Main-Kinzig, it even seems to be the case that masks increased the number of cases relative to the synthetic control group. " (page 28)

So obviously, masks aren't important at all. Other factors are at play.

Ghost Ship , Jun 11 2020 21:35 utc | 27
I blame it on the communists - Jena is in what was formerly East Germany and the inhabitants of Jena are still oppressed by their communist upbringing. Communism in Jena must be rooted out and the German citizens of Jena must be free to die from COVID-19 just like the freedom-loving morons in the good old U S of A, y'all. Yee haw. USA! USA! USA! Would you go all the way for the U.S.A?

[Jun 11, 2020] If journalists are worried about Covid-19 all over again, why don't they ask their beloved Fauci why he didn't tell the rioters and looters to wear a face mask or "social distance" during last week when they were all outside running amok and spreading Covid-19?

Jun 11, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Skeletor , Jun 11 2020 19:45 utc | 4

If journalists are worried about Covid-19 all over again, why don't they ask their beloved Fauci why he didn't tell the rioters and looters to wear a face mask or "social distance" during last week when they were all outside running amok and spreading Covid-19?

But he suddenly pops up this week and the fear mongering starts again... and the feeble fall in line again lol

Anyway. Maybe Dr Fauci will give a press conference next week dressed in Kente clothing....

I swear 2020 is like we are living in a simulation lol

[Jun 11, 2020] Judicial Watch files lawsuit seeking Dr. Fauci, WHO records - YouTube

Jun 11, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Sean Mclaughlin , 2 weeks ago

He intentionally broke the moratorium on the gain of function research studies and then paid 3.7 million to china's virology lab in Wuhan to continue it. Where did this pandemic start from again? He is guilty and should be thrown into a pit.

Truth Seeker , 3 weeks ago (edited)

Fauci is the same man who predicted that Trump will face a virus pandemic. Did he know something we did not know?

Kenton Turner , 3 weeks ago

And Dr. Faucci is still lieing when he says that he didn't realize that it was so transmittable early on because he was heavily invested in the Wuhan Lab for a long time before the outbreak! And heavily invested in the WHO at the same time!

Mrs Smith , 3 weeks ago

The management of this virus has been a clusterfart from the get-go.

Armida Ruiz-Martinez , 3 weeks ago

The only issue that I see is that Dr. Fauci wasn't lied too by the W.H.O. He was in full know of what was going on and because of his role in the research in China, he went along with the the guidelines the W.H.O. Its all a cover up and Dr. Fauci needs to be investigated as well.

Bobby S , 2 weeks ago

Fauci has been playing both sides. He needs to be investigated to find out what he's been up to.

Trapper Bill , 2 weeks ago

Fauci suffers from little man syndrome we gave him a little too much authority and he abused it.

damason444 , 2 weeks ago

There is a sealed indictment sitting on the Resolute Desk with Fauci's name on it involving treason and a life sentence to Gitmo.

Covid_is _a_hoax , 2 weeks ago

"Beware the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises. Much pain but still time. There is good out there. We oppose deception."

Tony Lassman , 2 weeks ago

He was told in USA to stop developing covid 19 in the USA So.... he paid to send the unfinished virus to China And they finished the job. Research & let me know if this isn't the truth . If it is true find out why he did & then before you cut off his head for treason inject him with vaccines he developed & leave for 1 year & watch results

Bailey , 3 weeks ago

Fauci is entirely too elderly (and out of experience) to be making judgement calls for the entire country. One man alone should not be making decisions as he is doing.

Gabriel Afonso , 1 month ago

79 years old....I thought he was younger....wow

Scott Collom , 2 weeks ago

Fauci knew exactly what he was doing.Hes not a victim,hes a criminal.

chazIII7III , 2 weeks ago

I never trusted Faucci. He's a snake in the grass.

Tex Assholdem , 3 weeks ago

Dr. Fauci is a sneaky liar. Why are people acting like he cares about us over his own wallet? He doesn't.

Tebayane Rose , 2 weeks ago

He has patent on virus and invested 3.7 million. Very old globalist

[Jun 11, 2020] This Creep Fauci Said in May, or five months since epidemic started, that People Should Not Be Wearing Masks and instead they should sit unemployed at home

Notable quotes:
"... The purpose of the mask is that if the wearer has the virus and is a carrier, the mask protects others from that carrier. The person infected wearing a mask coughs, splutters, sneezes into the mask which captures most of virus and reduces its spread to other people. ..."
Jun 11, 2020 | realclimatescience.com

Posted on May 11, 2020 by tonyheller

https://www.youtube.com/embed/LScHAvufgfM?feature=oembed

  1. richard verney says: May 11, 2020 at 12:40 am

    The thing about masks is not that it protects the wearer, of course, it does not protect the wearer, especially with the extra fiddling that Fauci alludes to.

    The purpose of the mask is that if the wearer has the virus and is a carrier, the mask protects others from that carrier. The person infected wearing a mask coughs, splutters, sneezes into the mask which captures most of virus and reduces its spread to other people.

    Hospital staff have traditionally worn masks to protect patients, who may have a poor immune system, from any illness that the doctor/nurse may be carrying.

    All of this has been known for decades. Reply

    • tonyheller says: May 11, 2020 at 1:04 am

      I have done lots of travelling over the past few months, and have not seen one person coughing or sneezing. Fauci said very clearly that people should not be wearing masks. If someone thinks they are infected with a virus, they should not being going out in public. Reply

  2. Charles Straw says: May 11, 2020 at 3:31 am

    Because I completely blocked out mainstream media when the quarantine started, this is actually the first time I've heard Fauci speak he reminds me of Mel Brooks or of some bad actor in a bad sit-com he doesn't seem that smart is he smart?

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[Jun 10, 2020] Coronavirus vaccine developers are chasing outbreaks before they disappear Washpost - Sic Semper Tyrannis

Jun 10, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

"Coronavirus vaccine developers are chasing outbreaks before they disappear" Washpost

"The top teams rushing to develop coronavirus vaccines are alerting governments, health officials and shareholders that they may have a big problem : The outbreaks in their countries may be getting too small to quickly determine whether vaccines work

A leader of the Oxford University group, one of the furthest ahead with human trials, admits the reality is paradoxical, even "bizarre," but said the declining numbers of new infections this summer could be one of the big hurdles vaccine developers face in the global race to beat down the virus.

Even as new cases are growing worldwide, transmission rates are falling in Britain, China and many of the hardest-hit regions in the United States -- the three countries that have experimental vaccines ready to move into large-scale human testing in June, July and August." Washpost

---------------

Well, pilgrims it would seem that the Post staff does not see the irony in their own writing, or perhaps they do. There have been scattered evidences of rationality there lately. Even as Democrat governors and mayors across the country drag their feet on the re-opening of the American economy, infection rates are falling. In the Faucibirxist view of things everything depends on vaccine development (or herd immunity post holocaust). But, alas there just aren't enough new, vibrant infections to make development of the vaccines convenient. What will happen to the flow of government money to these projects if this phenomenon becomes general knowledge. Someone at the Post should be disciplined for this indiscretion. pl

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/coronavirus-vaccine-trials-astrazeneca-moderna/2020/06/09/48f28fea-a414-11ea-898e-b21b9a83f792_story.html


Fred , 10 June 2020 at 09:34 AM

"What will happen to the flow of government money to these projects if this phenomenon becomes general knowledge."

Well Fauci is almost 80 so I think he's set for life. I hear the left wants lots of redevelopment funds and jobs programs, with the attendant opportunities for graft that comes with them, for thier cities which we are all assured had neither rioting nor looting.

Jim , 10 June 2020 at 11:50 AM
Thank you Col. Lang for all the posts on novel coronavirus.

For shining light on this, this utter failure by the medical community and their various and sundry enablers in government and in business.

On these liars and charlatans and killers and criminals.

The video below is about an hour long. It is a nurse, who worked in NYC hospital, the alleged epi center of epi centers.

She basically says, without saying directly, but points to the fact that doctors were murdering patients there, it seems.

She paints a picture of doctors not as scientists but as zealots, as neo neanderthals, as craven monsters, who care not about life, the elderly, the sick, the least among us.

As Nurse Ratchets

Towards the end of video, she recounts her last day at this hospital, discussing a patient she had nursed for many days, and who was doing fine, making progress, . . . and how she was removed from his bed on direct orders, sent to the ER where she was not assigned, and 20 minutes later, the man she was caring for is dead.

These sorts of stories abound; this rage is not going away anytime soon. This is the rage, and what caused it, that our "lords and masters" who censor us and tell us black is white, and want to destroy our country. . . this is the rage they don't want to see expressed and exposed. Will they get their way?

http://edwardcurtin.com/the-undercover-epicenter-nurse-watch-weep-and-rage/


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Laura Wilson , 10 June 2020 at 01:04 PM
Well...they can always test their vaccines in the USA. We seem not to be faring as well and can help out. (I believe this is a glass half-full moment.)
Walter Lang , 10 June 2020 at 01:27 PM
Laura Wilson

Still hysteric. if you are not over 65 and not in compromised health the disease is rarely fatal.

optimax , 10 June 2020 at 01:32 PM
Trump needs to stop the $600 a week federal bonus to the unemployed. My neighbor told me about how his daughter-in-law worked one day a week as a barmaid before the virus shut the bar down and made a little over a hundred a week. Oregon unemployment pays her 150 a week and with the added 600 she now makes over 7 times what she did working. How many protesters and rioters are just as flush getting paid to party in the street? Most i'd say. That makes these government funded protests a powerful voice and recruitment tool for the Democratic Party.

Ending the federal subsidy to the unemployed would reduce, if not stop, the demonstrations and mau-mauing of the country.

Fred , 10 June 2020 at 03:17 PM
optimax,

Absolutely. There were howls of protests before Minneapolis when Georgia, Florida and Texas started tellling people that if they recieved a recall to work notice from an employer and refused to go they would be considered a voluntary quit and no longer eligable for unemployment insurance payments. They'll howl again when they figure out this is all taxable income.

LA Sox Fan , 10 June 2020 at 03:21 PM
Take everything the WaPo claims with a grain of salt. There is no real worry over lower covid infections. What made Covid decrease was the lockdowns. Remove the lockdowns and covid infection rates will climb, as we are seeing in the already reopened states.

Then when fall rolls around, and people are stuck indoors again, rates will skyrocket. There will be plenty of test subjects for a vaccine.

rho , 10 June 2020 at 09:29 PM
With the spread rate of the coronavirus, any outbreak of the infection will peter out once the total immunity rate of the population approaches 65-70 percent.

In Bergamo (Italy), 57 percent a population sample have tested positive for coronavirus antibodies, which means that they must have had the infection before and are now most likely immune.

If you are a Karen, then don't listen to me, but take it from the German government's very own propaganda outlet, Deutsche Welle:

"Out of nearly 10,000 Bergamo residents who had their blood tested between April 23 and June 3, 57% had antibodies, indicating they had come into contact with the virus and developed an immune response.

Health authorities said the sample size was 'sufficiently broad' to be a reliable indicator of the presence of SARS-CoV-2 among Bergamo province's population."

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-tests-show-half-of-people-in-italys-bergamo-have-antibodies/a-53739727

Nobody in Bergamo will need a coronavirus vaccine once its development is finished - whenever that may happen, if at all.

[Jun 08, 2020] Strange coinsidences

Jun 08, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

jef , Jun 7 2020 14:09 utc | 1

So we had two major pandemic exercises last year projecting almost exactly what did happen with the corona virus. First was Crimson Contagion Jan thru Aug 2019

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Contagion

Then Event 201 the international war gaming of a global pandemic almost exactly like what happened which took place only months before the real pandemic on October 2019

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/

So why is it ok for TPTB to act like it wasn't happening or it was a complete supprise "no one could have known" and were completely unprepared?

Mark2 , Jun 7 2020 14:20 utc | 2

Jef @ 1
A week before the Skripal poisoning at Salisbury U.K. 'they had a chemical warfare exercise a few miles up the road on Salisbury Plain.

[Jun 06, 2020] Floyd protests are 'perfect recipe' for Covid-19 surge, says top US infectious diseases expert Fauci

Another prediction from Fauci. This "Black Lives Matter" vs coronavirus puzzle will unfold in 14 days from now. In any case quarantine was send into the dust bin.
Some protesters might pay the price for Dem Party sponsored protests
Jun 06, 2020 | www.rt.com

Fauci, who sits on the White House Coronavirus Task Force, says he finds the protests across the nation "very concerning" and a "perfect recipe" for a surge in Covid-19 cases.

[Jun 06, 2020] 'Professor Lockdown' Ferguson, UK's Covid-19 czar, admits crippling restrictions MADE NO DIFFERENCE – where's the outrage by Jason O'Toole

Notable quotes:
"... The British scientist known as Professor Lockdown has undermined the draconian policy he unleashed on the world by confessing that Britain hasn't fared any better in tackling the disease than the laid-back Scandis. Professor Neil Ferguson probably woke up this morning breathing a massive sigh of relief because he hadn't been ripped to shreds again in the British newspapers for this second time in just under a month – this time over his startling admission that there has been no significant difference in the levels of Covid-19 suppression when comparing the UK and Sweden. ..."
"... In other words, in the type of roundabout waffling way you'd expect from a bumbling boffin, the scientist – dubbed 'Professor Lockdown' after he cajoled Boris Johnson into bringing the British economy to a screeching halt – reckons Sweden has essentially coped very well without being forced into any draconian lockdown, thank you very much. ..."
"... At the moment, the biggest accusation they could face is needlessly making a hames (for those of you who aren't Irish, this means a 'big mess') of the economy. Even Sweden's state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell has since said that, while he regrets not implanting stricter measures to stop the spread of Covid-19, he "still would not have gone as far as other European countries did." ..."
"... He might've been dubbed "Dr Strangelove" after that embarrassing slip up – but now he just comes across as a nutty professor after his latest confession. These strong words might just come back to haunt BoJo when he next goes before the electorate. With a crippled economy thanks to the draconian measures, he's going to find the next election will be all about his mishandling of Covid-19, and specifically, "the economy, stupid." ..."
Jun 04, 2020 | www.rt.com

The British scientist known as Professor Lockdown has undermined the draconian policy he unleashed on the world by confessing that Britain hasn't fared any better in tackling the disease than the laid-back Scandis. Professor Neil Ferguson probably woke up this morning breathing a massive sigh of relief because he hadn't been ripped to shreds again in the British newspapers for this second time in just under a month – this time over his startling admission that there has been no significant difference in the levels of Covid-19 suppression when comparing the UK and Sweden.

During his evidence to the House of Lords Science and Technology Committee on Tuesday, he said:

"They [Swedish scientists] came to a different policy conclusion based really on quite similar science. I don't agree with it but scientifically they're not far from scientists in any part of the world."

Also on rt.com 'Very destructive' SECOND wave of Covid-19 may come as countries lift restrictions, WHO warns

He then acknowledged that the Swedish authorities had "got a long way to the same effect" without a full lockdown.

In other words, in the type of roundabout waffling way you'd expect from a bumbling boffin, the scientist – dubbed 'Professor Lockdown' after he cajoled Boris Johnson into bringing the British economy to a screeching halt – reckons Sweden has essentially coped very well without being forced into any draconian lockdown, thank you very much.

So where was the indignation about how his recommendations f**ked up the economy and made people prisoners in their own homes? It certainly wasn't to be seen splashed across any British front pages. Indeed, it was hard enough to find much, if any, coverage of this very significant news story on Wednesday.

Read more Is public opinion on Covid-19 being shaped by facts – or 'terrorized' by propaganda?

It was buried inside the Daily Telegraph on page seven, running across a third of a page or less, with a very accurate subheading stating in clear black and white: "Professor admits radical Scandinavian policy worked as well as British policy of shutting down."

The evidence from the two countries' differing approaches has left the professor with little escape route. UK (full lockdown/businesses shut down): 579 Covid-19 deaths per million of population. Sweden (softer restrictions/businesses kept open): 442 deaths per million.

But why make such a startling confession now, when he could have wriggled away by saying it's too early to assess the data as the disease is still running its course? The cynic in me wonders if Dr Ferguson's matter-of-fact admission that a full lockdown probably didn't make a blind bit of difference was fueled by ulterior motives. Seeing as his own reputation is already in tatters, was it a warped act of revenge against Boris Johnson for being forced to fall on his sword after being caught breaking lockdown with his married lover?

Or here's one for conspiracy theorists: instead of wanting to throw BoJo under the bus, could it have been a case of wanting to hide something else that's about to come down the track? With America now burning in the wake of the atrocious murder of George Floyd, the confession at this juncture reminds me somewhat of how a British government spin doctor sent out a memo only 30 minutes after the second plane hit the Twin Towers on 9/11 with the cynical recommendation that "it's now a very good day to get out anything we want to bury."

Also on rt.com I've signed death certificates during Covid-19. Here's why you can't trust any of the statistics on the number of victims

At the moment, the biggest accusation they could face is needlessly making a hames (for those of you who aren't Irish, this means a 'big mess') of the economy. Even Sweden's state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell has since said that, while he regrets not implanting stricter measures to stop the spread of Covid-19, he "still would not have gone as far as other European countries did."

But the Swede being plagued with self-doubt sounds much more like someone racked with guilt about "what ifs?" like an Oskar Schindler type of character who was pictured crying at the end of the Spielberg film because he was convinced he could've done better.

According to Aric Dromi, CEO of the Sweden-based Tempus Motu Think Tank, both the UK and Sweden's response to Covid-19 is "ego driven and lacking in strategy." He told me:

"Differences in the social structure between the UK and Sweden should have made a bigger impact between the numbers infected. The Swedish economy, for example, far from being protected by remaining open, has still been badly damaged as it relies heavily on exports, despite the lack of a lockdown. For both countries, it represents a human sacrifice on the altar of economics, and it is wholly unacceptable."

Also on rt.com BoJo government blasted again as new lockdown 'SEX BAN' prompts orgy of scorn and mockery

It all reminds me of when John Cleese in the 'Gourmet Night' episode of 'Fawlty Towers' told guests that there were only three different types of duck on the menu that night – with orange, with cherries or "surprise," which turned out to be "duck without oranges or cherries." And if you don't like duck? As Basil Fawlty quipped , "Ah, well, if you don't like duck, uhhh, you're rather stuck."

At the end of the day, it might still be too early to fully know which was the right way to go, which begs the question: Why did Prof. Ferguson jump the gun and heap such fulsome praise – no pun intended here – on the Swedish model? Whatever way you spin it here, he has, once again, " undermined " the lockdown just like he did " after violating quarantine he designed to meet married lover."

He might've been dubbed "Dr Strangelove" after that embarrassing slip up – but now he just comes across as a nutty professor after his latest confession. These strong words might just come back to haunt BoJo when he next goes before the electorate. With a crippled economy thanks to the draconian measures, he's going to find the next election will be all about his mishandling of Covid-19, and specifically, "the economy, stupid."

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[Jun 04, 2020] I think the illusion the CDC. was the "world's premier health agency" comes from the fact that the USA has, by far, the largest and most powerful pharmaceutical sector in the world

CDC consist of overpaid idiots. On 20 January, the first confirmed case in South Korea was identified as a 35-year-old Chinese woman. The first South Korean national to be infected occurred three days later was a 55-year-old man who worked in Wuhan and returned for a checkup with flu symptoms. The two infection reports were publicly released on 24 January. [1] At this point team of CDC researchers should already be in South Korea. But nothing was done.
Jun 04, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
vk , Jun 3 2020 22:43 utc | 55
The C.D.C. waited 'its entire existence for this moment'. What went wrong?

Propaganda never stops:

The technology was old, the data poor, the bureaucracy slow, the guidance confusing, the administration not in agreement. The coronavirus shook the world's premier health agency , creating a loss of confidence and hampering the U.S. response to the crisis

"World's premier health agency"?

I think the illusion the C.D.C. was the "world's premier health agency" comes from the fact that the USA has, by far, the largest and most powerful pharmaceutical sector in the world (which Americans call "Big Pharma"). If you have the biggest pharma, you will have the most sheer volume of human trials and new drug patents. This, by osmosis, puts your country's C.D.C. at the forefront of most drug regulation - which the rest of the world's C.D.C.s will simply copy and paste for obvious reasons (i.e. they won't do the same work twice). That doesn't mean your C.D.C. is "the premier". For instance, it could simply be the most corrupt, the C.D.C. which is at the right place, the right time. An example for this is the USA's airplane equivalent to the C.D.C., which sold itself off to Boeing, resulting in the 737 MAX fiasco.

[May 28, 2020] U.S. Declares a Vaccine War on the World

Notable quotes:
"... The failure of the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) against COVID-19, with nearly four times the annual budget of the WHO, is visible to the world. The CDC failed to provide a successful test for SARS-CoV-2 in the critical months of February and March , while ignoring the WHO's successful test kits that were distributed to 120 countries. ..."
"... Trump has yet to hold his administration and the CDC responsible for this criminal bungling. This, more than any other failure , is the reason that the U.S. numbers for COVID-19 are now more than 1.5 million and about a third of all global infections. Contrast this with China, the first to face an unknown epidemic, stopping it at 82,000 infections, and the amazing results that countries such as Vietnam and South Korea have produced. ..."
"... Taiwan was the first to inform the WHO of human-to-human transmissions in December, but was completely ignored. ..."
"... "Just how evil does this situation become? Is the general leadership of the American political economy trying to be evil just for the fun of it?" ..."
"... And at what point does the general indifference to this state of affairs that still, incredibly, obtains, turn over into mass outrage and condemnation? Skrelli, Bayer, and all the rest are frelling evil. Extortion writ large, with easily preventable death and suffering. ..."
"... As you note it's about profits. One of the disturbing condemnations of the now fading American Century, which most USians remain contentedly oblivious to is that during their watch as global hegemon, the US, in what can be seen, in the best light, as bad faith, worked to undermine the democratic functionality of international cooperative organizations like the WHO, the UN, etc. ..."
"... The intention of granting copyrights and patents was noble, to provide a limited monopoly on an invention or literary work for a limited period. IP has been distorted and twisted, extended to insane time limits to protect works that for any common sense thinkers have already become public domain (see, e.g. the Happy Birthday song, Mickey Mouse or re-formulation of a drug that's gone out of patent). Software should have had its own IP regime but that ship has sailed (thanks Bill G.). ..."
May 28, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

Donald Trump launched a new vaccine war in May, but not against the virus. It was against the world. The United States and the UK were the only two holdouts in the World Health Assembly from the declaration that vaccines and medicines for COVID-19 should be available as public goods , and not under exclusive patent rights. The United States explicitly disassociated itself from the patent pool call, talking instead of "the critical role that intellectual property plays" -- in other words, patents for vaccines and medicines. Having badly botched his COVID-19 response, Trump is trying to redeem his electoral fortunes in the November elections this year by promising an early vaccine. The 2020 version of Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan is shaping up to be, essentially, " vaccines for us" -- but the rest of the world will have to queue up and pay what big pharma asks, as they will hold the patents.

In contrast, all other countries agreed with the Costa Rican proposal in the World Health Assembly that there should be a patent pool for all COVID-19 vaccines and medicines. President Xi said that Chinese vaccines would be available as a public good , a view also shared by European Union leaders . Among the 10 candidate vaccines in Phase 1 and 2 of clinical trials, the Chinese have five, the United States has three, and the UK and Germany have one each.

Trump has given an ultimatum to the World Health Organization (WHO) with a permanent withdrawal of funds if it does not mend its ways in 30 days. In sharp contrast, in the World Health Assembly (the highest decision-making body of the WHO), almost all countries, including close allies of the United States, rallied behind the WHO. The failure of the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) against COVID-19, with nearly four times the annual budget of the WHO, is visible to the world. The CDC failed to provide a successful test for SARS-CoV-2 in the critical months of February and March , while ignoring the WHO's successful test kits that were distributed to 120 countries.

Trump has yet to hold his administration and the CDC responsible for this criminal bungling. This, more than any other failure , is the reason that the U.S. numbers for COVID-19 are now more than 1.5 million and about a third of all global infections. Contrast this with China, the first to face an unknown epidemic, stopping it at 82,000 infections, and the amazing results that countries such as Vietnam and South Korea have produced.

One issue is now looming large over the COVID-19 pandemic. If we do not address the intellectual property rights issue in this pandemic, we are likely to see a repeat of the AIDS tragedy . People died for 10 years (1994-2004) as patented AIDS medicine was priced at $10,000 to $15,000 for a year's supply, far beyond their reach. Finally, patent laws in India allowed people to get AIDS medicine at less than a dollar a day , or $350 for a year's supply. Today, 80 percent of the world's AIDS medicine comes from India. For big pharma, profits trumped lives, and they will continue to do so, COVID or no COVID, unless we change the world.

Most countries have compulsory licensing provisions that will allow them to break patents in case of epidemics or health emergencies. Even the WTO, after a bitter fight, accepted in its Doha Declaration (2001) that countries, in a health emergency, have the right to allow any company to manufacture a patented drug without the patent holder's permission, and even import it from other countries.

Why is it, then, that countries are unable to break patents, even if there are provisions in their laws and in the TRIPS Agreement? The answer is their fear of U.S. sanctions against them. Every year, the U.S. Office of the United States Trade Representative (USTR) issues a Special 301 Report that it has used to threaten trade sanctions against any country that tries to compulsorily license any patented product. India figures prominently in this report year after year, for daring to issue a compulsory license in 2012 to Natco for nexavar, a cancer drug Bayer was selling for more than $65,000 a year . Marijn Dekkers, the CEO of Bayer, was quoted widely that this was "theft," and "We did not develop this medicine for Indians We developed it for Western patients who can afford it."

This leaves unanswered how many people even in the affluent West can afford a $65,000 bill for an illness. But there is no question that a bill of this magnitude is a death sentence for anybody but the super-rich in countries like India. Though a number of other drugs were under also consideration for compulsory licensing at that time, India has not exercised this provision again after receiving U.S. threats.

It is the fear that countries can break patents using their compulsory licensing powers that led to proposals for patent pooling. The argument was that since many of these diseases do not affect rich countries, big pharma should either let go of their patents to such patent pools, or philanthropic capital should fund the development of new drugs for this pool. Facing the pandemic of COVID-19, it is this idea of patent pooling that emerged in the recent World Health Assembly , WHA-73. All countries supported this proposal, barring the United States and its loyal camp follower, the UK . The United States also entered its disagreement on the final WHA resolution, being the lone objector to patent pooling of COVID-19 medicines and vaccines, noting "the critical role that intellectual property plays in incentivizing the development of new and improved health products."

While patent pooling is welcome if no other measure is available, it also makes it appear as if countries have no other recourse apart from the charity of big capital. What this hides, as charity always does, is that people and countries have legitimate rights even under TRIPS to break patents under conditions of an epidemic or a health emergency.

The United States, which screams murder if a compulsory license is issued by any country, has no such compunction when its own interests are threatened. During the anthrax scare in 2001, the U.S. Secretary of Health issued a threat to Bayer under "eminent domain for patents" for licensing the anthrax-treatment drug ciprofloxacin to other manufacturers. Bayer folded, and agreed to supply the quantity at a price that the U.S. government had set. And without a whimper. Yes, this is the same Bayer that considers India as a "thief" for issuing a compulsory license!

The vaccination for COVID-19 might need to be repeated each year, as we still do not know the duration of its protection. It is unlikely that a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 will provide a lifetime immunity like the smallpox vaccine. Unlike AIDS, where the patient numbers were smaller and were unfortunately stigmatized in different ways, COVID-19 is a visible threat for everyone. Any attempt to hold people and governments to ransom on COVID-19 vaccines or medicines could see the collapse of the entire patent edifice of TRIPS that big pharma backed by the United States and major EU countries have built. That is why the more clever in the capitalist world have moved toward a voluntary patent pool for potential COVID-19 medicines and vaccines. A voluntary patent pool means that companies or institutions holding patents on medicines -- such as remdesivir -- or vaccines would voluntarily hand them over to such a pool. The terms and conditions of such a handover, meaning at concessional rates, or for only for certain regions, are still not clear -- leading to criticism that a voluntary patent pool is not a substitute for declaring that all such medicines and vaccines should be declared global public goods during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Unlike clever capital, Trump's response to the COVID-19 vaccine is to thuggishly bully his way through. He believes that with the unlimited money that the United States is now willing to put into the vaccine efforts, it will either beat everybody else to the winning post, or buy the company that is successful . If this strategy succeeds, he can then use "his" COVID-19 vaccine as a new instrument of global power. It is the United States that will then decide which countries get the vaccine (and for how much), and which ones don't.

Trump does not believe in a rule-based global order , even if the rules are biased in favor of the rich. He is walking out of various arms control agreements and has crippled the WTO . He believes that the United States, as the biggest economy and the most powerful military power , should have the untrammeled right to dictate to all countries. Threats of bombing and invasions can be combined with illegal unilateral sanctions ; and the latest weapon in his imaginary arsenal is withholding vaccines.

Trump's little problem is that the days of the United States being a sole global hegemon passed decades ago. The United States has shown itself as a fumbling giant and its epidemic response shambolic . It has been unable to provide virus tests to its people in time, and failed to stop the epidemic through containment/mitigation measures, which a number of other countries have done.

China and the EU have already agreed that any vaccine developed by them will be regarded as a public good. Even without that, once a medicine or a vaccine is known to be successful, any country with a reasonable scientific infrastructure can replicate the medicine or the vaccine, and manufacture it locally. India in particular has one of the largest generic drug and vaccine manufacturing capacities in the world. What prevents India, or any country for that matter, from manufacturing COVID-19 vaccines or drugs once they are developed -- only the empty threat of a failed hegemon on breaking patents?


Noel Nospamington , May 28, 2020 at 4:19 am

Clearly the Trump and Johnson administrations are completely wrong in not supporting that all COVID vaccines and medications be declared as public goods. This is an unprecedented global threat requiring unprecedented global response.

But as a Canadian I have to reluctantly admit, there are legimate reasons to oppose the WHO. Trump like a broken clock can be correct twice a day, even if he is wrong the other 1438 times a day.

The worst offence is that the WHO (World Health Organisation) is suppose to represent the world, and yet it deliberately excludes Taiwan, which it a known part of the world with 24 million people.

Taiwan was the first to inform the WHO of human-to-human transmissions in December, but was completely ignored. And Taiwan has best handled its response to the pandemic.

Personally I think that all countries should stop supporting the WHO until it restores Taiwan's observer status it previous had until 2016. The only other reasonable option would be to create an alternative health organisation to the WHO which does not exclude any part of the world.

The WHO also has other failings, including corruption, exorbitant travel expenses, and an unqualified president beholden to the CCP. But these failings pale in comparison to Taiwan's exclusion, and hopefully the other failings can be fixed within the organisation.

Amfortas the hippie , May 28, 2020 at 7:49 am

"Just how evil does this situation become? Is the general leadership of the American political economy trying to be evil just for the fun of it?"

And at what point does the general indifference to this state of affairs that still, incredibly, obtains, turn over into mass outrage and condemnation?
Skrelli, Bayer, and all the rest are frelling evil. Extortion writ large, with easily preventable death and suffering.

it did NOT begin with trump.It's been there for most of my life. What will it take for ordinary people to get mad enough about it all to do something about it?

Even in this article, the unspoken assumption is that our hands are somehow tied that these corps have agency far beyond anyone else's but those corps can be seized, and exist only at the pleasure of governments in the places they pretend to exist in.

They are a human creation an Egregore, set tottering about as if it were willful and alive but even Lefties treat them as untouchable godlike entities "oh, well lets appeal to "Benevolent Capital, instead "

"Behold, I show you the last man. 'What is love? What is creation? What is longing? What is a star?' thus asks the last man, and blinks. The earth has become small, and on it hops the last man, who makes everything small. His race is as ineradicable as the flea; the last man lives longest. 'We have invented happiness,'say the last men, and they blink. They have left the regions where it was hard to live, for one needs warmth. One still loves one's neighbor and rubs against him, for one needs warmth

One still works, for work is a form of entertainment. But one is careful lest the entertainment be too harrowing. One no longer becomes poor or rich: both require too much exertion. Who still wants to rule? Who obey? Both require too much exertion.

No shepherd and one herd! Everybody wants the same, everybody is the same: whoever feels different goes voluntarily into a madhouse. 'Formerly, all the world was mad,' say the most refined, and they blink

One has one's little pleasure for the day and one's little pleasure for the night: but one has a regard for health. 'We have invented happiness,' say the last men, and they blink.""

-Zarathustra

mpalomar , May 28, 2020 at 8:50 am

As you note it's about profits. One of the disturbing condemnations of the now fading American Century, which most USians remain contentedly oblivious to is that during their watch as global hegemon, the US, in what can be seen, in the best light, as bad faith, worked to undermine the democratic functionality of international cooperative organizations like the WHO, the UN, etc.

Thus when emergencies arise such as international diplomatic crisis or pandemics, it is found these organisations have been rendered untrustworthy, corrupted and unreliable; unsuited to purpose. American exceptionalism?

VietnamVet , May 28, 2020 at 5:55 am

It is clear now that the USA will not fund a national public health system to fight the coronavirus epidemic. The only conclusion is the reason is to allow Pharmaceutical Corporations to make huge profits by marketing patented drugs and vaccines to treat the illness; if and when, they become available sometime in the future.

Due to incompetence, lack of money and bad messengering; the economic reopening of the USA could kill close to a million Americans. To Republicans and Libertarians, this is of no concern. Democrats may acknowledge the deaths but say they are unavoidable.

For the Elite keeping their wealth is more important than spending a portion to prevent the huge costs in lives and treasure that will come once the Wuhan Coronavirus is established across North America like the related common cold.

Alternate Delegate , May 28, 2020 at 6:32 am

This is a teachable moment on the immorality of all "intellectual property". I am pleased to see that so many countries – other than the US and the UK – can get together on the common decency of allowing everyone to live, and set that above the "justice" of paying off intellectual property assignees. But these countries still have some ways to go in understanding that this applies to all information. That the creation of information can never be a living – in contrast to a living based on the creation of essential goods and services, about which we are learning so much right now! – and that information can never be owned.

They do not yet fully comprehend that all claims to own and extract rent from information are in fact crimes against humanity.

But they will. A teachable, as I said, moment.

Bugs Bunny , May 28, 2020 at 7:05 am

The intention of granting copyrights and patents was noble, to provide a limited monopoly on an invention or literary work for a limited period. IP has been distorted and twisted, extended to insane time limits to protect works that for any common sense thinkers have already become public domain (see, e.g. the Happy Birthday song, Mickey Mouse or re-formulation of a drug that's gone out of patent). Software should have had its own IP regime but that ship has sailed (thanks Bill G.).

Either a giant reform is due or people will ignore the law and infringe the IP. Chinese companies do it with impunity. Maybe they're right to do so.

John Wright , May 28, 2020 at 9:59 am

It appears that the USA has some real competition in the intellectual property game.

Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Indicators

Patent applications for the top 20 offices, 2018
Rank Country Patent applications
1 China 1,542,002
2 U.S. 597,141
3 Japan 313,567
4 South Korea 209,992

If one sums up USA patent applications vs Asia (China, Japan, SK), it is USA 597K vs Asia 2066K.

So Asia is putting in patent applications, vs the USA, at a 3.46 multiple vs the USA.

It will be interesting to see if the USA attitude about the sanctity of intellectual property changes when important key patents are held by the rest of the world.

timbers , May 28, 2020 at 8:33 am

Teachable moments. This could get really interesting if China or a non US & associated puppets develops an effect Covid treatment first.

I will dream of something like this: China develops vaccine, offers it free to US on condition it reduce it's Dept of War & Aggression by 80% and honor all existing and recently existing arms control agreement, and withdraws it's Naval forces though out the world and confines them to the North Atlantic and California coast.

ProNewerDeal , May 28, 2020 at 8:55 am

I wonder if a geopolitically powerful nation/bloc of nations such as China/India/etc might announce that they disregard pharma IP, & announce that they will adhere to the economist Dr Dean Baker-type policy of open source pharma R&D/recipe publication, any private manufacturer may manufacture & sell the resultant pharma SKU. I am referring to any type of pharma or medical device (such as ventilators), not just a COVID-19 vaccine. I would guesstimate that the "soft power" & goodwill generated by such a policy would be extremely beneficial to those nation(s). Furthermore, the US if it tried to retaliate via sanctions or other threats would get a corresponding additional decrease in soft power.

Raj , May 28, 2020 at 9:37 am

To be honest, in some instances Indian govt practices on pharma are quite bad. It is extremely hard in some instances to recoup investments at prices they ask for.

[May 28, 2020] Cuomo blames nursing homes for following his Covid-19 order that KILLED PATIENTS - after removing it from website

Notable quotes:
"... The obligation is on the nursing home to say, 'I can't take a Covid-positive person,' ..."
"... If they said 'I can't take the person,' they can't take the person! So that's how it works ..."
"... the optimum feeding ground for this virus ..."
"... No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the [Nursing Home] solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19 ..."
"... must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals ..."
"... Advisory: Hospital Discharges and Admissions to Nursing Homes ..."
"... following the president's agencies' guidance ..."
"... follow[ing] what the Republican Administration said to do. ..."
"... admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including...from hospitals where a case of Covid-19 was present ..."
May 28, 2020 | www.rt.com

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has stealthily attempted to rewrite history, deleting his controversial order requiring nursing homes to admit Covid-19 patients from the state health website and blaming facilities for obeying it. After being lambasted in the press for the March 25 executive order that forced New York elder care facilities to accept patients infected with the highly contagious virus, Cuomo attempted to blame the nursing homes for not disobeying his orders during a Wednesday press conference.

Now he's blaming the nursing homes for obeying HIS ORDERS! pic.twitter.com/W2YBdwhvXi

-- Janice Dean (@JaniceDean) May 27, 2020

" The obligation is on the nursing home to say, 'I can't take a Covid-positive person,' " the governor insisted. " If they said 'I can't take the person,' they can't take the person! So that's how it works ."

The coronavirus has cut a devastating swath through New York's nursing homes, killing more than 5,800 people in long-term care facilities since the pandemic began - nearly a fifth of the state's Covid-19 deaths so far, according to AP statistics compiled on Thursday. The policy ultimately sent over 4,500 recovering coronavirus patients to nursing homes, which Cuomo himself called " the optimum feeding ground for this virus ."

But the executive order itself leaves little room for disobedience, reading (in underlined text, no less), " No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the [Nursing Home] solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19 ." Elsewhere in the document, facilities are advised they " must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals " so long as they've been deemed medically stable - no excuses allowed. Facilities aren't even permitted to test incoming patients.

He specifically told them they couldn't do that @NYGovCuomo pic.twitter.com/x31PWu1v9R

-- commonsense (@commonsense258) May 27, 2020

But that same order, titled " Advisory: Hospital Discharges and Admissions to Nursing Homes ," was apparently removed from the New York healthcare website early this month, according to Fox News, which discovered its absence on Tuesday. Unfortunately for Cuomo's revisionism, it's still available in the Wayback Machine . The governor issued a revised directive on May 10, barring hospitals from sending patients back to nursing homes unless they tested negative for the virus. However, his communications director denied the more recent order represented a " reversal " of the old one so much as " build[ing] on " it.

By Saturday, however, Cuomo was blaming the Trump administration for the ill-advised Covid-19 mandate, declaring New York was merely " following the president's agencies' guidance " and " follow[ing] what the Republican Administration said to do. " While the governor's office claimed he was referring to a March directive from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, that order merely required nursing homes to " admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including...from hospitals where a case of Covid-19 was present " and even advised setting aside a unit to quarantine patients returning from hospitals - a safety measure notably missing from Cuomo's executive order.

[May 27, 2020] The CDC Slashed The COVID-19 Fatality Rate To A Fraction Of Earlier Estimate Used To Justify Lockdowns

May 27, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Ryan McMaken via The Mises Institute,

Governments throughout the world and across the US justified extreme, draconian, undemocratic, and unconstitutional (in most US states) "lockdown" and stay-at-home orders on the grounds that the COVID-19 virus was exceptionally fatal.

In March, the World Health Organization (WHO) was claiming that the fatality rate was a very high 3.4 percent .

Yet as time went on, it became increasingly clear that such high estimates were essentially meaningless because researchers had no idea how many people were actually infected with the disease. Tests were largely being conducted on those with symptoms serious enough to end up in emergency rooms or doctor's offices.

By late April, many researchers were publishing new studies showing that the number of people with the disease was actually much higher than was previously thought. Thus, it became clear that the percentage of people with the disease who died from it suddenly became much smaller.

Now, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has released new estimates suggesting that the real fatality rate is around 0.26 percent.

Specifically, the report concludes that the "symptomatic case fatality ratio" is 0.4 percent. But that's just symptomatic cases. In the same report, the CDC also claims that 35 percent of all cases are asymptomatic.

Or, as the Washington Post reported this week:

The agency offered a "current best estimate" of 0.4 percent. The agency also gave a best estimate that 35 percent of people infected never develop symptoms. Those numbers when put together would produce an infection fatality rate of 0.26, which is lower than many of the estimates produced by scientists and modelers to date."

Of course, not all scientists have been wrong on this. Back in March, Stanford scientist John Ioannidis was much, much closer to the CDC's estimate than the WHO. The Wall Street Journal noted in April :

In a March article for Stat News, Dr. Ioannidis argued that Covid-19 is far less deadly than modelers were assuming. He considered the experience of the Diamond Princess cruise ship, which was quarantined Feb. 4 in Japan. Nine of 700 infected passengers and crew died. Based on the demographics of the ship's population, Dr. Ioannidis estimated that the U.S. fatality rate could be as low as 0.025% to 0.625% and put the upper bound at 0.05% to 1% -- comparable to that of seasonal flu.

Not that this will settle the matter.

Proponents of destroying human rights and the rule of law in order to carry out lockdowns will continue to insist that "we didn't know" what the fatality rate was back in March. The lack of evidence, however, didn't stop proponents of lockdowns from implementing policies that destroyed the ability of families to earn a living, and which also created social conditions that caused child abuse and suicides to spike.

But for more sane people, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Those who have claimed that lockdowns are "the only option" had virtually no evidence at all to support their position. Indeed, such extreme over-the-top measures such as the general lockdowns required an extreme level of high-quality, nearly irrefutable evidence that lockdowns would work and were necessary in the face of a disease with an extremely high fatality rate. But the only "data" the prolockdown people could offer was speculation and hyperbolic predictions of bodies piling up in the streets.

But that became politically unimportant.

The people who wanted lockdowns had gained the obeisance of powerful people in government institutions and in the media . So actual data, science, or respect for human rights suddenly became meaningless. All that mattered was getting those lockdowns. So the lockdown crowd destroyed the lives of millions in the developed world -- and more than a hundred million in the developing world -- to satisfy the hunches of a tiny handful of politicians and technocrats.

[May 24, 2020] I Think It May Have Cost Lives - Nobel Prize Winner Slams Lockdowns As Product Of Panic Virus

May 24, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

According to the Telegraph , Michael Levitt correctly predicted the initial trajectory of the pandemic, but was ignored by now-disgraced Imperial College epidemiologist Niall Ferguson, whose warnings were embraced by the UK government as justification for the lockdown, despite the fact that the projections proved to be extremely flawed and dramatically overestimated the virus's potential for devastation. As early as march, Levitt warned that Ferguson's projections had over-estimated the potential death toll by "10 or 12 times".

Instead of helping the situation, Fergusons' projections created an unnecessary "panic virus" which spread among global political leaders, Prof Levitt told the Telegraph.

Prof Levitt, a British-American-Israeli who shared the Nobel prize for chemistry in 2013 for the "development of multiscale models for complex chemical systems", has said for two months that the planet will beat coronavirus faster than most other experts predict.

"I think lockdown saved no lives," said the scientist, who added that the Government should have encouraged Britons to wear masks and adhere to other forms of social distancing.

"I think it may have cost lives. It will have saved a few road accident lives - things like that - but social damage - domestic abuse, divorces, alcoholism - has been extreme. And then you have those who were not treated for other conditions."

Data from various studies has offered a mixed picture about the effectiveness of the lockdowns. The number of cases and deaths has undoubtedly plunged in the US and across Europe since strict lockdowns were almost universally enacted, but many wonder whether governments are being overly cautious, perhaps to a dangerous degree.

Though his models have been vindicated by the passage of time, Levitt said his initial concerns about Ferguson's models were largely ignored due to what he calls the "panic virus", despite the fact that there's recent precedent for epidemiological models over-estimating the impact of other outbreaks, including H1N1 and Ebola.

Having assessed the initial outbreak in China and from the infected Diamond Princess cruise ship, he predicted by March 14 that the UK would lose around 50,000 lives. Prof Ferguson's modelling that same week estimated up to 500,000 deaths without social distancing measures.

"I think that the real virus was the panic virus," Prof Levitt told the Telegraph. "For reasons that were not clear to me, I think the leaders panicked and the people panicked and I think there was a huge lack of discussion..

The 73-year-old has no background as an epidemiologist, but he assessed the outbreak in China and prepared a paper based on his own calculations. Most countries, he predicted, would suffer a Covid-19 death rate worth around an extra month in excess deaths over the calendar year.

"In Europe, I don't think that anything actually stopped the virus other than some kind of burnout," he added. " There's a huge number of people who are asymptomatic so I would seriously imagine that by the time lockdown was finally introduced in the UK the virus was already widely spread. They could have just stayed open like Sweden by that stage and nothing would have happened."

Professor Levitt has now analysed the data from 78 nations with more than 50 reported cases of coronavirus. His investigations proved the virus was never going to achieve the type of exponential growth that the researchers at Imperial were predicting at the same time.

At this point, Levitt believes the virus has reached a point of saturation across Europe and parts of the US making lockdowns much less effective. At this point, they're probably causing far more harm than benefit.

The virus "has saturated", he believes, across Europe. "I think the lockdown will cause much more damage than the deaths saved," he added. "When I saw the briefing (from Prof Ferguson) I was shocked. I had a run-in with him when I actually saw that Ferguson's death rate was a year's worth - doubling the normal death rate. I saw that and said immediately that's completely wrong. I think Ferguson over-estimated 10 or 12 times. We should have seen from China that a virus never grows exponentially. From the very first case you see, exponential growth actually slows down very dramatically.

"The problem with epidemiologists is that they feel their job is to frighten people into lockdown, social distancing. So you say 'there's going to be a million deaths' and when there are only 25,000 you say 'it's good you listened to my advice'. This happened with Ebola and bird flu. It's just part of the madness."

Prof Levitt says the global evidence shows the virus fades in dry heat and in much of the western world "there seems to be some kind of immunity". "The main worry I would have would be in China," he said when asked about the prospect of a second outbreak. "I am 73 and I feel very young," he added. "I don't care about the risk at all. As you get old the risk of dying from disease is so high that this is the time to buy a motorcycle, go skiing!"

Even as the NYT and WaPo search for every shred of evidence to support the view that the reopening in the US will lead to a second wave, they're finding that there's not nearly as much as they'd hoped - which is why projections are their new favorite tool.

[May 24, 2020] 'How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?' The government's disease-fighting agency is conflating viral and antibody tests, compromising a few crucial metrics that governors depend on to reopen their economies. Pennsylvania, Georgia, Texas, and other states are doing the same.

Notable quotes:
"... "According to CDC, the disease of obesity affects about 78 million Americans 1 and the ASMBS estimates about 24 million have severe or morbid obesity." ..."
May 24, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Richard Steven Hack , May 24 2020 23:54 utc | 46

And the government botching of this crisis continues...

'How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?' The government's disease-fighting agency is conflating viral and antibody tests, compromising a few crucial metrics that governors depend on to reopen their economies. Pennsylvania, Georgia, Texas, and other states are doing the same.
https://tinyurl.com/y92ea59f

And overseas as well...

'Politicised nature' of lockdown debate delays Imperial report
https://tinyurl.com/y7csboom

And of course, the effect of that...

Nearly half of US states haven't contained their coronavirus outbreaks, a new study finds
https://tinyurl.com/yc72pd8t

And no, Sweden is not doing better...

Just 7.3% of Stockholm had Covid-19 antibodies by end of April, study shows
Official findings add to concerns about Sweden's laissez-faire strategy towards the pandemic
https://tinyurl.com/yahnmb3a

Finally, a large scale study on HCQ - 86,000 patients, with 15,000 receiving HCQ...

Trump drug hydroxychloroquine raises death risk in Covid patients, study says
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-52779309

The color of coronavirus:
COVID-19 deaths by race and ethnicity in the U.S.
https://www.apmresearchlab.org/covid/deaths-by-race

Blacks are *twice* as likely to get it as whites and Latinos. American Indians are *five times* more likely to get it. They conclude the best indicator is poverty.

From The Lancet, a study of New York patients... Epidemiology, clinical course, and outcomes of critically ill adults with COVID-19 in New York City: a prospective cohort study https://tinyurl.com/yblmszsx

Between March 2 and April 1, 2020, 1150 adults were admitted to both hospitals with laboratory-confirmed COVID-19, of which 257 (22%) were critically ill.

The median age of patients was 62 years (IQR 51–72), 171 (67%) were men. 212 (82%) patients had at least one chronic illness, the most common of which were hypertension (162 [63%]) and diabetes (92 [36%]).

119 (46%) patients had obesity.

As of April 28, 2020, 101 (39%) patients had died and 94 (37%) remained hospitalised.

203 (79%) patients received invasive mechanical ventilation for a median of 18 days (IQR 9–28), 170 (66%) of 257 patients received vasopressors and 79 (31%) received renal replacement therapy.

The median time to in-hospital deterioration was 3 days (IQR 1–6).

In the multivariable Cox model, older age (adjusted hazard ratio [aHR] 1·31 [1·09–1·57] per 10-year increase), chronic cardiac disease (aHR 1·76 [1·08–2·86]), chronic pulmonary disease (aHR 2·94 [1·48–5·84]), higher concentrations of interleukin-6 (aHR 1·11 [95%CI 1·02–1·20] per decile increase), and higher concentrations of D-dimer (aHR 1·10 [1·01–1·19] per decile increase) were independently associated with in-hospital mortality.

Note: 36% had diabetes; 46% were fat. Like I've said before, "diabetes" is a code word for "fat." And how many people in the US are fat and thus at risk? "According to CDC, the disease of obesity affects about 78 million Americans 1 and the ASMBS estimates about 24 million have severe or morbid obesity."

So much for "let's just isolate the elderly"...so we can attend our baseball games this summer and stuff ourselves with crap food...

[May 23, 2020] Lock Bill Gates Up!

May 23, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Millennial Millie investigates the deep conflicts of interest and connections Bill Gates has with the coronavirus and his proposed 'vaccine' to cure the pandemic.

[May 22, 2020] Grandma Killer Cuomo Sent 4,300 Patients Back To Nursing Homes Despite Positive COVID-19 Tests

May 22, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

"Grandma Killer" Cuomo Sent 4,300 Patients Back To Nursing Homes Despite Positive COVID-19 Tests by Tyler Durden Fri, 05/22/2020 - 17:25 Earlier this month, a reporter at one of NY Gov Andrew Cuomo's daily press briefings asked the governor about reports that the state issued guidance calling for hospitals to return thousands of patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 to nursing homes or long-term care facilities where they lived.

Somehow, despite the horrifying notion that Cuomo deliberately sent patients back to nursing homes where they unleashed some of the deadliest outbreaks in the country, the governor readily owned up to the decision, and insisted public health officials believed this to be the best option to prevent the patients from just hanging around the hospital.

With the benefit of hindsight, we now see that the hospital bed shortages that the US had prepared for never came to pass. So, not only did this decision lead to thousands of deaths, it was also totally unnecessary.

Because as the Associated Press reported Friday morning, an investigation discovered that more than 4,000 nursing home patients who had tested positive for COVID-19 were returned to their care facilities due to this state order.

More than 4,300 recovering coronavirus patients were sent to New York's already vulnerable nursing homes under a controversial state directive that was ultimately scrapped amid criticisms it was accelerating the nation's deadliest outbreaks, according to a count by The Associated Press.

AP compiled its own tally to find out how many COVID-19 patients were discharged from hospitals to nursing homes under the March 25 directive after New York's Health Department declined to release its internal survey conducted two weeks ago. It says it is still verifying data that was incomplete.

The issue has become a huge problem for Cuomo, who has been labeled "the grandma killer" by critics. When confronted with the data by the AP, the state health department declined to comment. One individual quoted by the AP called it "the single dumbest decision" made during the response to the pandemic.

And guess what - this decision had nothing to do with President Trump. While Cuomo of course tried to deflected criticism to the Trump administration by claiming that the decision stemmed from federal guidance, the AP pointed out that "few states went as far as New York and neighboring New Jersey, which has the second-most care home deaths, in discharging hospitalized coronavirus patients to nursing homes. California followed suit but loosened its requirement following intense criticism."

Whatever the full number, nursing home administrators, residents' advocates and relatives say i t has added up to a big and indefensible problem for facilities that even Gov. Andrew Cuomo -- the main proponent of the policy -- called "the optimum feeding ground for this virus."

"It was the single dumbest decision anyone could make if they wanted to kill people," Daniel Arbeeny said of the directive, which prompted him to pull his 88-year-old father out of a Brooklyn nursing home where more than 50 people have died. His father later died of COVID-19 at home.

"This isn't rocket science," Arbeeny said. "We knew the most vulnerable - the elderly and compromised - are in nursing homes and rehab centers."

Told of the AP's tally, the Health Department said late Thursday it "can't comment on data we haven't had a chance to review, particularly while we're still validating our own comprehensive survey of nursing homes admission and re-admission data in the middle of responding to this global pandemic."

Cuomo didn't reverse the order until May 10. According to the directive, nursing homes could "refuse" to take in the patients if they weren't "equipped" to handle them. But unsurprisingly, no nursing homes did so - since this would be tantamount to admitting that the facilities weren't safe .

Cuomo, a Democrat, on May 10 reversed the directive, which had been intended to help free up hospital beds for the sickest patients as cases surged. But he continued to defend it this week , saying he didn't believe it contributed to the more than 5,800 nursing and adult care facility deaths in New York -- more than in any other state -- and that homes should have spoken up if it was a problem.

"Any nursing home could just say, 'I can't handle a COVID person in my facility,'" he said, although the March 25 order didn't specify how homes could refuse, saying that "no resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the (nursing home) solely based" on confirmed or suspected COVID-19.

Over a month later, on April 29, the Health Department clarified that homes should not take any new residents if they were unable to meet their needs, including a checklist of standards for coronavirus care and prevention.

And according to the AP, even the most well-equipped nursing homes in the state saw the trickle of COVID patients turn into a flood that quickly overwhelmed their ability to cope. Across the country, thousands of nursing home residents and staff have succumbed to the illness.

Gurwin Jewish, a 460-bed home on Long Island, seemed well-prepared for the coronavirus in early March, with movable walls to seal off hallways for the infected. But after the state order, a trickle of recovering COVID-19 patients from local hospitals turned into a flood of 58 people.

More walls were put up, but other residents nonetheless began falling sick and dying. In the end, 47 Gurwin residents died of confirmed or suspected COVID-19.

The state order "put staff and residents at great risk," CEO Stuart Almer said. "We can't draw a straight line from bringing in someone positive to someone catching the disease, but we're talking about elderly, fragile and vulnerable residents."

Nationally, over 35,500 people have died from coronavirus outbreaks at nursing homes and long-term care facilities, about a third of the overall death toll, according to the AP's running tally.

Bottom line: Irony of ironies, the most sanctimonious blue-state governors, who used every conceivable pretext to bash President Trump, also allowed the largest numbers of vulnerable patients to die because of what amounts to sheer bureaucratic idiocy.

The scandal has earned Cuomo a new nickname that has been heavily suppressed by the likes of Google, Facebook and Twitter: The "Grandma Killer".

[May 22, 2020] Cuomo Order That Sent Estimated 4,300 Covid-19 Patients to Nursing Homes Denounced as 'Single Dumbest Decision Anyone Could Make'

May 22, 2020 | www.commondreams.org

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is facing new criticism after the Associated Press reported Friday that a state directive led to over 4,300 still recovering coronavirus patients being sent to New York's "already vulnerable nursing homes."

"It was a death sentence," tweeted Daniel Choi, a doctor at the Donald and Barbara Zucker School of Medicine at Hofstra/Northwell. He called the directive a "horrendous idea" and "definitely not something any doctor taking care of nursing home patients would have signed off on."

The state health department directive (pdf), issued March 25, barred nursing homes from requiring patients deemed "medically stable" from being tested for Covid-19 prior to admission. Cuomo, a Democrat, rescinded the order May 10, but not before thousands of infected patients likely entered nursing homes and contributed to the coronavirus's spread.

The estimated number tallied by the AP amounts to what would have been a "big and indefensible problem for facilities," the outlet reported.

From the AP :

"It was the single dumbest decision anyone could make if they wanted to kill people," Daniel Arbeeny said of the directive, which prompted him to pull his 88-year-old father out of a Brooklyn nursing home where more than 50 people have died. His father later died of Covid-19 at home.

"This isn't rocket science," Arbeeny said. "We knew the most vulnerable -- the elderly and compromised -- are in nursing homes and rehab centers."

CBS New York reported Friday that the conoravirus has taken the lives of almost 5% of nursing home residents in the state, and this week the Cuomo tried to deflect blame for the directive.

"Why did the state do that with Covid patients in nursing homes?" asked Cuomo. "It's because the state followed President Trump's CDC guidelines. So they should ask President Trump."

In an op-ed at the Guardian on Wednesday questioning the recent accolades heaped on the New York governor -- including suggestions that Cuomo run for president -- journalists Lyta Gold and Nathan Robinson of Current Affairs magazine write that "Cuomo should be one of the most loathed officials in America right now. "

Gold and Robinson argue that blame for New York's high death toll from the virus should sit largely with Cuomo.

"Federal failures played a role, of course, but this tragedy was absolutely due, in part, to decisions by the governor," they wrote, citing as examples his failure to take swift action, delays in imposing social distancing measures, Medicaid cuts both before and after the start of the pandemic, and his partnership with Silicon Valley billionaires to "reimagine education."

"This is the problem: for too long, Democrats have measured their politicians by 'whether they are better than Republicans,' wrote Gold and Robinson. "This sets the bar very low indeed, and means that Democrats end up settling for incompetent and amoral leaders who betray progressive values again and again."

[May 22, 2020] Andrew Cuomo is no hero. He's to blame for New York's coronavirus catastrophe

May 22, 2020 | www.theguardian.com

Andrew Cuomo may be the most popular politician in the country. ... All of which is bizarre, because Cuomo should be one of the most loathed officials in America right now. ProPublica recently released a report outlining catastrophic missteps by Cuomo and the New York City mayor, Bill de Blasio, which probably resulted in many thousands of needless coronavirus cases. ProPublica offers some appalling numbers contrasting what happened in New York with the outbreak in California. By mid-May, New York City alone had almost 20,000 deaths, while in San Francisco there had been only 35, and New York state as a whole suffered 10 times as many deaths as California.

Federal failures played a role, of course, but this tragedy was absolutely due, in part, to decisions by the governor. Cuomo initially "reacted to De Blasio's idea for closing down New York City with derision", saying it "was dangerous" and "served only to scare people". He said the "seasonal flu was a graver worry". A spokesperson for Cuomo "refused to say if the governor had ever read the state's pandemic plan". Later, Cuomo would blame the press, including the New York Times for failing to say "Be careful, there's a virus in China that may be in the United States?" even though the Times wrote nearly 500 stories on the virus before the state acted. Experts told ProPublica that "had New York imposed its extreme social distancing measures a week or two earlier, the death toll might have been cut by half or more".

But delay was not the only screw-up. Elderly prisoners have died of coronavirus because New York has failed to act on their medical parole requests. As Business Insider documented:

"Testing was slow . Nonprofit social-service agencies that serve the most vulnerable couldn't get answers either . And medical experts like the former CDC director Tom Frieden said 'so many deaths could have been prevented' had New York issued its stay-at-home order just 'days earlier' than it did. On March 19, when New York's schools had already been closed, Cuomo said 'in many ways, the fear is more dangerous than the virus.'"

The governor has failed to take responsibility for the obvious failures, consistently blaming others and at one point even saying " governors don't do pandemics ". (Actually, some governors just don't read their state's pandemic plans.) But much of the press has ignored this, focusing instead on Cuomo's aesthetic presentation: his poise during press conferences, his dramatic statements about "taking responsibility" (even when he obviously hasn't), and his invisible good looks. ...

There's something disturbing about Cuomo being hailed as the hero of the pandemic when he should rightly be one of the villains. As Business Insider notes, he is now only able to attain praise for his actions because his earlier failures made those actions necessary. He's lauded for addressing a problem that he himself partly caused. Of course, part of this is because Donald Trump has bungled the coronavirus response even more badly , so that Cuomo – by not being a complete buffoon – looks like a capable statesman by contrast. But this is the problem: for too long, Democrats have measured their politicians by "whether they are better than Republicans". This sets the bar very low indeed, and means that Democrats end up settling for incompetent and amoral leaders who betray progressive values again and again.

[May 21, 2020] The Argument Against the Argument Against Facemasks

May 21, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Richard Steven Hack , May 19 2020 6:26 utc | 110


Richard Steven Hack , May 19 2020 6:47 utc | 111

The Argument Against the Argument Against Facemasks
Resistance rooted in liberty clashes with the unalienable right of life
https://tinyurl.com/yctjydmx

Masks help stop the spread of coronavirus – the science is simple and I'm one of 100 experts urging governors to require public mask-wearing
https://tinyurl.com/yah8orzo

THE STATE OF THE NATION: A 50-STATE COVID-19 SURVEYUSA, April 2020
https://tinyurl.com/yaf58h27

Key takeaways:


More than 80% of Americans support closing non-essential businesses. Support for limiting restaurants, closing schools, canceling sporting and entertainment events, and group gatherings exceeds 90%. A total of 94% strongly or somewhat approve asking people to stay home and avoid gathering in groups; 92% support canceling major sports and entertainment events; 91% approve closing K-12 schools; 91% approve limiting restaurants to carry-out only; 83% approve closing businesses other than grocery stores and pharmacies. There are some partisan differences on these items -- Republicans are somewhat less supportive, but even among Republicans large majorities support all of these measures; and, as summarized below, support is largely consistent across every state.

A bipartisan consensus opposes a rapid "reopening" of the economy. Only 7% support immediate reopening of the economy, and the median respondent supports waiting four to six weeks. There is a bipartisan consensus on waiting (89% of Republicans as compared to 96% of Democrats opposed immediate re-opening), and Republicans support a somewhat faster re-opening of the economy than Democrats, where the median Republican supports waiting two to four weeks versus median Democrat six to eight weeks. As discussed below, even in those Republican-led states which are moving toward re-opening, few people support reopening immediately
Generally, Americans report adhering to social distancing, indicating that they had minimal social interactions with people outside of their households. That said, 56% reported encountering at least one person from outside of their home in the preceding 24 hours (and 7% reported encountering 10 or more persons); the survey did not contain information on the circumstances of those encounters (e.g., was it at grocery stores? were the individuals wearing masks?). Generally, there were not large differences with respect to age, gender, race, income, partisanship or education. An exception was that Asian Americans were substantially less likely to encounter other individuals, and more likely to avoid contact with other people. There were significant racial differences reported in wearing face masks outside of the home, with 51% of whites reporting following recommendations very closely, along with 62% of Hispanics, 64% of African Americans, and 68% of Asian Americans. There was also an age gradient in this regard, ranging from 50% face mask wearing for 18-24 year olds to 60% of those aged 65 or higher. There were also partisan differences: 51% of Republicans, compared to 64% for Democrats, reported wearing face masks outside the home.

I find the racial differences interesting, especially since in my observation fewer blacks are wearing masks. However, since I was specifically looking at blacks (due to the disproportionate number of blacks dying) in my walks, I may have under counted the number of whites not wearing masks. Also I suspect it varies between cities, states and more suburban or rural areas.

In any event, not enough people are wearing masks to re-open the economy - and we damn sure don't have enough testing, tracing and isolating capability and probably won't until September, according to one report I read.

A number of other interesting results. Check it out.

Richard Steven Hack , May 19 2020 7:03 utc | 113
Another useful article on masks...which is likely to be the next hot-button issue for the idiots and trolls...

The Science and Politics of Masks in the Covid-19 Pandemic
https://tinyurl.com/y7bxakhv


One of the key things to understand in thinking about the value of masks is the concept of the viral dose. While it seem logical that a single viral particle hitting a person's mouth, nose or eye could cause an infection, strong laboratory and empirical evidence says that this is not the case -- it takes a big dose of virus to launch a case of Covid. This happy fact means that masks for everyday use don't need to block 100% of pathogens in order to prevent the disease from spreading. (Even the medical grade N95 masks don't block every viral particle, but they block enough to protect the user, even when caring for patients with known Covid-19.)

A simulation by De Kai and colleagues makes the case that masks are most effective if at least 80% of people are using them. The figure below maps the rate of transmission with the expected deaths from Covid-19 in a nation the size of the UK. According to the simulation, social distancing alone without masking would lead to 1.16 million deaths by May 31st. However, with 50% of the population masking, the projected death figure drops to 240,000. With 80% masking, there are 60,000 deaths. If Professor De Kai's mind-blowing video (below) doesn't convince you of the virtue of mask wearing, I just don't know what to tell you.

Video referenced above:
Visual simulations show why we all need to wear masks now #UniversalMasking #masks4all #COVID19
42,341 views •Apr 26, 2020
https://tinyurl.com/yc89vf9c

[May 20, 2020] Trust Is Being Undermined - Harvard Medical School Prof Questions Fauci's Shading Vaccine Results

Fauci jumped the gun with the Moderna vaccine promotion.
Notable quotes:
"... Former Harvard Medical School professor and founder of the university's cancer and HIV/AIDS research departments, William Haseltine dared to speak out today about the high level of bullshit and damage that is being done to "trust" in "scientists" and even dared to break the one holy writ that shall go un-mentioned, throwing some shade a Dr.Fauci. ..."
"... But, but, but... the CNBC anchorette blubbered, "are you questioning Dr. Fauci who also said that this was encouraging news?" ..."
"... "Whether [Fauci] shaded what should should have been done, I think is an important question. He's obviously under enormous pressure for positive results but it was not the right thing to do if you can't see the data." ..."
"... The most recent example is Moderna's claim Monday of favorable results in its vaccine trial, which it announced without revealing any of the underlying data. The announcement added billions of dollars to the value of the company, with its shares jumping almost 20 percent. Many analysts believe it contributed to a 900-point gain in the Dow Jones industrial average. ..."
"... The Moderna announcement described a safety trial of its vaccine based on eight healthy participants. The claim was that in all eight people, the vaccine raised the levels of neutralizing antibodies equivalent to those found in convalescent serum of those who recovered from covid-19. What to make of that claim? Hard to say, because we have no sense of what those levels were. This is the equivalent of a chief executive of a public company announcing a favorable earnings report without supplying supporting financial data, which the Securities and Exchange Commission would never allow. ..."
"... There is a legitimate question regarding what Moderna's unsupported assertion means. The scientific and medical literature reports that some people who have recovered have little to no detectable neutralizing antibodies . There is even existing scientific literature that suggests it is possible neutralizing antibodies may not protect animals or humans from infection or reinfection by coronaviruses. ..."
"... The National Institutes of Health announced last month that the drug remdesivir offered a clear benefit to covid-19 patients with moderate disease, shortening the length of their hospital stay by several days. But did it really? Twenty days after the announcement, the supporting data has still not been published. Without the data, no doctor treating a patient can be sure they are doing the right thing. ..."
"... Another paper , published the same day, found that remdesivir had no measurable effect on patient survival or the amount of virus detectable in nasopharynx and lung secretions. What then should a practicing physician do? Follow the unsupported advice of a news announcement or a medical report published in a leading scientific journal? This is not an idle question: The NIH announcement triggered a global stampede for limited supplies of the drug. ..."
"... The media also bears responsibility. Asking experts to opine on unsubstantiated claims is not useful. Medicine and science are not matters of majority opinion; they are matters of fact supported by transparent data. This is the backbone of scientific progress and our only hope to end this pandemic. We can't give up on our standards now. ..."
May 20, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
At a moment in time when narrative-following "scientists" are lauded like unquestionably omniscient supreme beings enabling dumb-as-a-rock-partisan-politicians to play omnipotent overlords without fear of blowback, the world needs more people like William Haseltine.

The last two weeks have seen markets and politicians jump exuberantly at the hope of every press release from a biotech firm that proclaims one of their pet rabbits didn't die when they fed it their latest DNA-reshaping test material (oh that is except if anyone dares say anything positive about hydroxychloroquine but that is a topic for another discussion) as the fate of global citizenry rests on a vaccine (and definitely not herd immunity, don't even mention it).

Barstool Sports' Dave Portnoy said it right - when did we shift from "flatten the curve, flatten the curve, flatten the curve" to "we have to fund a cure or everyone's going to die."

And so, that is where we find ourselves... Every talking head proclaiming the same malarkey - we will re-open carefully, with PPE, and social distancing, and whetever else is mandated from on-high "until we find a vaccine in 12-18 months" at which point the world will be made whole again and Kumbaya...

All of which brings us back to the man of the day in our humble opinion.

Former Harvard Medical School professor and founder of the university's cancer and HIV/AIDS research departments, William Haseltine dared to speak out today about the high level of bullshit and damage that is being done to "trust" in "scientists" and even dared to break the one holy writ that shall go un-mentioned, throwing some shade a Dr.Fauci.

Reflecting on Moderna's press release this week (which was immediately followed by massive equity raises across numerous biotech firms and upgrades from the underwriters, surprise), Haseltine said:

"If a CFO had tried to get away with such an opaque and data-less statement it would have bee treated with derision and possibly an investigation."

The CNBC anchor desperately tried to guilt him into the official narrative of clinging to any hope as long as it lifts stocks - no matter its utter bullshittiness - but Haseltine destroyed her naive party line:

"we all know its an emergency, and in an emergency it's even more important to be clear on what you know and what you do not know."

Moderna did not follow the process:

"you don't know what happened, we don't know what happened, there is no data."

But, but, but... the CNBC anchorette blubbered, "are you questioning Dr. Fauci who also said that this was encouraging news?"

"Whether [Fauci] shaded what should should have been done, I think is an important question. He's obviously under enormous pressure for positive results but it was not the right thing to do if you can't see the data."

The full interview below is a must-watch by all who care about their freedom being controlled by a narrative directed by fearmongering elites in the name of "science" when the "science" is a) being ignored, b) being bastardized to meet a political need, c) being treated as if handed down on high from the man himself, or d) being manipulated explicitly.

https://player.cnbc.com/p/gZWlPC/cnbc_global?playertype=synd&byGuid=7000137277&size=530_298

Why this former Harvard Med School prof says Moderna's vaccine trial 'publication by press release' from CNBC .

Haseltine's interview is perfect lead into his opinion piece in todays' Washington Post :

Faith in medicine and science is based on trust. But today, in the rush to share scientific progress in combating covid-19, that trust is being undermined.

Private companies, governments and research institutes are holding news conferences to report potential breakthroughs that cannot be verified. The results are always favorable, but the full data on which the announcements are based are not immediately available for critical review. This is "publication by press release," and it's damaging trust in the fundamental methods of science and medicine at a time when we need it most.

The most recent example is Moderna's claim Monday of favorable results in its vaccine trial, which it announced without revealing any of the underlying data. The announcement added billions of dollars to the value of the company, with its shares jumping almost 20 percent. Many analysts believe it contributed to a 900-point gain in the Dow Jones industrial average.

The Moderna announcement described a safety trial of its vaccine based on eight healthy participants. The claim was that in all eight people, the vaccine raised the levels of neutralizing antibodies equivalent to those found in convalescent serum of those who recovered from covid-19. What to make of that claim? Hard to say, because we have no sense of what those levels were. This is the equivalent of a chief executive of a public company announcing a favorable earnings report without supplying supporting financial data, which the Securities and Exchange Commission would never allow.

There is a legitimate question regarding what Moderna's unsupported assertion means. The scientific and medical literature reports that some people who have recovered have little to no detectable neutralizing antibodies . There is even existing scientific literature that suggests it is possible neutralizing antibodies may not protect animals or humans from infection or reinfection by coronaviruses.

Such "publication by press release" seems to be a standard practice lately.

The National Institutes of Health announced last month that the drug remdesivir offered a clear benefit to covid-19 patients with moderate disease, shortening the length of their hospital stay by several days. But did it really? Twenty days after the announcement, the supporting data has still not been published. Without the data, no doctor treating a patient can be sure they are doing the right thing.

Another paper , published the same day, found that remdesivir had no measurable effect on patient survival or the amount of virus detectable in nasopharynx and lung secretions. What then should a practicing physician do? Follow the unsupported advice of a news announcement or a medical report published in a leading scientific journal? This is not an idle question: The NIH announcement triggered a global stampede for limited supplies of the drug.

The case is more nuanced for the vaccine developed by the Jenner Institute at Oxford University, though the mileposts remain the same: It started with a public pronouncement of favorable results from an early study, this time in monkeys, well before any data was publicly released. An NIH scientist working on a trial of the Oxford vaccine gave an interview to the New York Times , claiming the drug was a success.

But the data, released as a prepublication version more than two weeks after the story ran, didn't quite live up to the early claim. All of the vaccinated monkeys became infected when introduced to the virus. Though there was some reduction in the amount of viral RNA detected in the lungs, there was no reduction in the nasal secretions in the vaccinated monkeys. So the positive result reported by the Oxford group turned out not to be protection from infection at all, something most would agree is what a successful vaccine would do. Instead, it lowered only the amount of virus recoverable from the vaccinated monkey's lung.

To the Jenner Institute's credit, it does warn visitors to its website that there have been many false reports about the progress of its vaccine trial. Still, having a scientist working on the trial paint preliminary results in such a positive manner without having yet released the full data is cause for concern.

We all understand the need to share scientific and medical data as rapidly as possible in this time of crisis. But a media announcement alone is not enough. There are ways to share the data quickly and transparently: posting manuscripts before review or acceptance on publicly available websites or working with journals to allow an early view. Publishing in this manner allows doctors and scientists to reach their own conclusion, based on the evidence available.

The media also bears responsibility. Asking experts to opine on unsubstantiated claims is not useful. Medicine and science are not matters of majority opinion; they are matters of fact supported by transparent data. This is the backbone of scientific progress and our only hope to end this pandemic. We can't give up on our standards now.

* * *

So, by all means, trust in "science" but choose your "scientist" well...


Pure Evil, 13 minutes ago

It seems the more this hoax is exposed. The more Gates/Fauci appear as money grubbing opportunist vaccine pushers the more the MSM and the government double down on the whole false narrative.

hanekhw, 13 minutes ago

Look around at the moral climate and ask yourself if lying about everything for profit was not required for success how can we stop it without pain, suffering and violence? There really IS no free lunch and there never has been nor ever will be. We pay one way or another but we ALL pay.

Enraged, 15 minutes ago

Fake media, fake Big Pharma, fake banksters, fake government, fake breasts, fake stock "market", fake medical agencies, fake wars.

Assume they are 100% wrong unless there is substantial evidence they are correct, which will be on very rare occasions.

[May 20, 2020] Was Fauci a complete idiot to use Ferguson model as the base of his own forecast

May 20, 2020 | www.armstrongeconomics.com

Stochastic" is simply defined as "randomly determined; having a random probability distribution or pattern that may be analyzed statistically but may not be predicted precisely." In other words, they begin with a presumption, and therein lies the FIRST error. Ferguson's assumption was wrong, to begin with. Then this mode is so old, they recommend that it be run only on a single CORE processor as if we were dealing with an old IBM XT.

Effectively, you start the program with what is called a "seed" number which is then used to produce a random number. Most children's games begin this way. In fact, this is a version of what you would be similar to the game SimCity where you create a city starting from scratch and it simulates what might happen based upon the beginning presumption. There are numerous bugs in the code and the documentation suggests to run it several times and take the average. This is just unthinkable! A program should produce the same result with the same data from which it begins. Therefore, there is no possible way this model would ever produce the same results. In reality, this model produces completely different results even when beginning with the very same starting seeds and parameters because of the attempt to also make the seed random. This is not even as sophisticated as SimCity, which is really questionable. This is where the Imperial College claims that the errors will vanish if you run it on an old system in the single-threaded mode as if you were using a 1980s XT.

In programming, you run what is known as a regression-test, which is re-running a functional and non-functional test to ensure that previously developed and tested software still performs after a change. In market terminology, its called back-testing. In the most unprofessional manner imaginable, the Imperial College code does not even have a regression-test structure. They apparently attempted to but the extent of the random behavior caused by bugs in the code to prevent that check? On April 4th, 2020, Imperial College noted:

" However, we haven't had the time to work out a scalable and maintainable way of running the regression test in a way that allows a small amount of variation, but doesn't let the figures drift over time."

This Ferguson Model is such a joke it is either an outright fraud, or it is the most inept piece of programming I may have ever seen in my life. There is no valid test to warrant any funding of Imperial College for providing ANY forecast based upon this model. This is the most UNPROFESSIONAL operation perhaps in computer science. The entire team should be disbanded and an independent team put in place to review the world of Neil Ferguson and he should NOT be allowed to oversee any review of this model.

The only REASONABLE conclusion I can reach is that this has been deliberately used to justify bogus forecasts intent for political activism, or I must accept that these academics are totally incapable of even creating a theoretical model no less coding it as a programmer. There seems to have been no independent review of Ferguson's work which is unimaginable!

A 15,000 line program is nothing. I will be glad to write a model like this in two weeks and will only charge $1 million instead of $79 million. If you really want one to work globally, no problem. It will take a bit more time and the price will be at a discount – only $50 million on sale – refunds not accepted as is the deal with Imperial College.

[May 19, 2020] One more Fauci narrative about how the virus was so horrific, used to justify the lockdowns, is shown to be utter bullshit. Remember "the immunity doesn't last, you can get reinfected, the next time it's lethal"?

May 19, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

aqualech , May 19 2020 1:29 utc | 98

So just one more narrative about how the virus was so horrific, used to justify the lockdowns, is shown to be utter bullshit. Remember "the immunity doesn't last, you can get reinfected, the next time it's lethal"?

So, contrary to that, lots of people have immunity before they even get exposed to it. From the common cold. So the idea that the corona immunity is a short term and unreliable thing was just a bunch of uninformed blather, or worse, targeted and manipulative narrative.

Fearmongering bullshit that is 95% wrong needs to get called out constantly.

Even in New York there was not the "catastrophic death count" that I see people writing about as if it were true.

Hey! Let's talk about duct tape and plastic sheeting! Remember that idiotic bullshit scare narrative?

[May 19, 2020] Fauci vs. Trump -- Who's Right by Pat Buchanan

May 19, 2020 | www.unz.com

"We have met the moment and we have prevailed," said President Donald Trump Monday, as he supported the opening of the U.S. economy before the shutdown plunges us into a deep and lasting depression.

Tuesday, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the nation's leading expert on infectious diseases, made clear to a Senate committee his contradictory views.

"If states reopen their economies too soon, there is a real risk that you may trigger an outbreak that you may not be able to control," said Fauci. "My concern is that we will start to see little spikes that might turn into outbreaks of the disease (and) the inevitable return of infections."

Fauci is talking of the real possibility of a second and even more severe wave of the pandemic this summer and fall, if we open too soon.

There is evidence to justify the fears of Fauci and Dr. Robert Redfield of the Centers for Disease Control, who told the same Senate committee, "We are not out of the woods yet."

Yet, there is a case to be made for the risks that Trump and red state governors are taking in opening up sooner.

The Washington Post daily graph of new deaths nationally has been showing a curve sloping downward for a month from April's more than 2,000 a day. On no day yet this week did the U.S. record 2,000 dead from the virus. On some days, there were fewer than 1,000.

The graph for new coronavirus cases, which was showing more than 30,000 a day in April, is now closer to 25,000.

Also, hospitalizations and ICU occupancies are not as high as they were. Hospitals put up in Central Park and the Javits Center seem not to have been needed. There was and is no shortage of ventilators. The Navy hospital ships Comfort and Mercy are returning to their home ports.

Also, not all states are suffering equally, nor are all communities in the hardest-hit states. There have been three times as many COVID-19 cases in New Jersey as in Texas, though New Jersey is a fraction of the size and has a fraction of the population of Texas.

There are twice as many cases in Massachusetts as in Florida, the nation's third-most populous state with one of its highest percentages of retirees and elderly. There have been five times as many cases in New York as in California.

It is the nursing homes filled with the elderly and ill that have proven to be the real killing fields of this virus. According to The New York Times, one-third of all deaths from COVID-19 have come among residents and staff of nursing homes. Beyond these are the meatpacking plants and the prisons where social distancing is almost nonexistent.

Moreover, while Fauci and Redfield are specialists in epidemics, Trump's portfolio goes far beyond that.

He is chief of state, head of government and commander in chief, responsible for the security and defense of the nation. His portfolio is broader and deeper than those of Fauci and Redfield.

ORDER IT NOW

In the first hours of the Normandy invasion, General Eisenhower must have been rightly alarmed about the high U.S. casualties on Omaha Beach. But he also had to concern himself with the failure to capture the Port of Caen to bring ashore the armor to stop any German counterattack that might turn D-Day into another Anzio.

Ike could not worry about casualties alone.

According to The Washington Post, economists already project that 100,000 small businesses have shuttered, never to reopen.

"(D)eeper and longer recessions can leave behind lasting damage to the productive capacity of the economy," warned Federal Reserve Board Chair Jerome Powell on Wednesday. "Avoidable household and business insolvencies can weigh on growth for years to come."

Ultimately, Fauci is not "The Decider" here. Trump is.

It is he who is accountable to the nation for weighing the losses, both human and material, due to his decisions.

Fauci may be the best at what he does, but he is still only an adviser. As John F. Kennedy said after the Bay of Pigs, it is the president who ultimately bears responsibility for what he does and fails to do, while "the advisers may move on to new advice."

Believing he can do no more than his White House is now doing to contain the incidence of cases, hospitalizations and deaths, Trump has decided his primary job is to prevent the nation from a catastrophic economic collapse from which it might take years to recover.

The country is slowly moving in Trump's direction, slowly opening. And he will be responsible for whether the policy succeeds or opens the floodgates to a second and worse wave, should it come.

As Abraham Lincoln put his situation: "I mean to keep going. If the end brings me out all right, then what is said against me won't matter. If I'm wrong, ten angels swearing I was right won't make a difference."

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of "Nixon's White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever."

Copyright 2020 Creators.com.

Bill H , says: Show Comment May 15, 2020 at 5:41 am GMT

Fauci says that, "My concern is that we will start to see little spikes that might turn into outbreaks of the disease "

The problem with his statement is the first two words. A science advisor is supposed to provide advice based knowledge and science. It is not part of his job description to voice his feelings.

BobM11 , says: Show Comment May 15, 2020 at 7:52 am GMT
In this case, it doesn't matter who is "right" only one of them is POTUS! I get it that Trumps perch on his seat is tenuous and exactly how much real control he has over the government he supposedly heads is open to speculation, but at the end of the day Trump is POTUS and this is no time to be thinking of political futures he must be focused on the future of America.

We need not only an end to the lockdowns, but an end to the media campaign to demoralize the country by hyping the non-event known as corona virus. It is all hype. when you get past the spin and media blitz, there is nothing about this virus that would justify any kind of response beyond your doctor testing you for covid along with the flu when you go to the doctor with flu symptoms. That's it.

This is simply not the life altering virus that is being hyped. The enemy here is NOT the virus, it is the (((elites))) who are trying to destroy us. It is time people it is time.

[May 18, 2020] Judicial Watch files lawsuit seeking Dr. Fauci, WHO records - YouTube

May 18, 2020 | www.youtube.com

soakedbearrd , 6 days ago (edited)

Good, he's a crooked snake. And the WHO is corrupt.

Candy Rinard , 6 days ago

Don't trust Fauci at all. Not one thing he says.

Ender Gate , 1 week ago

Fauci sits on the leadership board of the Gates Foundation. That's a conflict of interest...

Eagle Arrow , 1 week ago

Fauci & Gates shouldn't be able to patent vaccines from research funded by American tax payers.

Mary Bevacqua , 1 week ago

Look at Fauci's connection and history. Follow the money! Corruption is a normal way of life. People's lives are NOT a concern.

dolphinsc1 , 1 week ago

Gen. Flynn is the perfect example of how far these gov't agencies will go to protect a lie and those frauds involved in the cover up/hoax. Trump was there target, the pathetic part of all this is just how many republicans knew about the fraud before Trump did and did nothing to protect him or Americans.

Linda Huckabee , 1 week ago

Their pushing vaccines to make money. When other treatments would be better like interferon therapy.

Carie Saad , 1 week ago

The CARES ACT was introduced in January of 2019, almost a year before CoronaVirus started. Hmmmmm......

ozrocksinger , 1 week ago (edited)

File on Gates too for practicing Medicine without a license!

Jillayne Holter , 6 days ago

Fauci, Clinton's, Gates, WHO, Big Pharma, and China all together to keeping things locked-down until they can make a vaccin

jomeza72 , 6 days ago (edited)

3.7 million Dollars To Wuhan Laboratories , Come On !!!

Nathan McClellan , 4 days ago

Fauci wasn't mislead by the WHO, he was given cover for his misdeeds.

Spyderhead , 4 days ago (edited)

"Doctor" Fauci is just another Deep State hack. A puppet. 😎

[May 17, 2020] Fact check Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates won't profit from remdesivir

May 17, 2020 | www.usatoday.com

Fauci, Gates and coronavirus treatments

Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, is not cited anywhere as an inventor or patent owner of the drug and has not authored any research studying remdesivir.

While Fauci has also said that early trials of remdesivir on coronavirus patients are a positive sign, he has also cautioned against prematurely celebrating.

"I was very serious when I said this was not the total answer by any means, but it's a very important first step," Fauci said on April 30 about the NIH study on remdesivir.

As remdesivir is wholly owned by Gilead Sciences, Fauci is not legally entitled to any profits from remdesivir.

Fauci was the director of NIAID during the 2013-14 Ebola outbreak and spearheaded the department's research and response to the virus. NIAID supported research into a range of potential Ebola treatments, including remdesivir, as recently as December. That said, Fauci did not directly conduct this research; neither he nor the NIH stand to profit from its results.

The National Institutes of Health confirmed that Fauci has not authored any studies on remdesivir and does not own stock in any biomedical or pharmaceutical companies.

Owning financial assets in pharmaceutical firms like Gilead would also be required to be publicly disclosed per the agency's ethics policy .

The NIH now recommends remdesivir be used "in hospitalized patients with severe disease," meaning any case where a the patient needs the use of a ventilator.

[May 17, 2020] How Huxley's X-Club Created Nature Magazine Sabotaged Science For 150 Years

May 16, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
Authored by Matthew Ehret via The Strategic Culture Foundation,

Amidst the storm of controversy raised by the lab-origin theory of COVID-19 extolled by such figures as Nobel prize winning virologist Luc Montagnier, bioweapons expert Francis Boyle, Sri Lankan Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith and the head of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, an elaborate project was undertaken under the nominal helm of NATURE Magazine in order to refute the claim once and for all under the report 'The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2' .

This project was led by a team of evolutionary virologists using a line of reasoning that "random mutation can account for anything" and was parroted loudly and repeatedly by Fauci, WHO officials and Bill Gates in order to shut down all uncomfortable discussion of the possible laboratory origins of COVID-19 while also pushing for a global vaccine campaign. On April 18, Dr. Fauci (whose close ties with Bill Gates, and Big Pharma have much to do with his control of hundreds of billions of dollars of research money), stated :

"There was a study recently that we can make available to you, where a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences there and the sequences in bats as they evolve. And the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human."

I think at this moment, rife as it is with speculative arguments, confusion and under-defined data, it is useful to remove oneself from the present and look for higher reference points from which we can re-evaluate events now unfolding on the world stage.

... ... ...

[May 17, 2020] Italian Politician Demands Bill Gates Arrest For Crimes Against Humanity

Notable quotes:
"... Sara Cunial, the Member of Parliament for Rome denounced Bill Gates as a "vaccine criminal" and urged the Italian President to hand him over to the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity. ..."
"... In an extraordinary seven-minute speech met with wide applause, Sara Cunial, the Member of Parliament for Rome said that Italy had been subjected to a "Holy Inquisition of false science." ..."
May 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Via GreatGameIndia.com,

As the FDA shuts down a Bill Gates-funded COVID-testing program , an Italian politician has demanded the arrest of Bill Gates in the Italian parliament.

Sara Cunial, the Member of Parliament for Rome denounced Bill Gates as a "vaccine criminal" and urged the Italian President to hand him over to the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity.

She also exposed Bill Gates' agenda in India and Africa, along with the plans to chip the human race through the digital identification program ID2020.

As reported by GreatGameIndia earlier, in 2015 it were the Italians who exposed secret Chinese biological experiments with Coronavirus . The video, which was broadcast in November, 2015, showed how Chinese scientists were doing biological experiments on a SARS connected virus believed to be Coronavirus, derived from bats and mice, asking whether it was worth the risk in order to be able to modify the virus for compatibility with human organisms.

In an extraordinary seven-minute speech met with wide applause, Sara Cunial, the Member of Parliament for Rome said that Italy had been subjected to a "Holy Inquisition of false science."

She roundly criticized the unnecessary lockdown imposed on her fellow Italians in the service of a globalist agenda. She urged fellow political leaders to desist in any plans to compel citizens to surrender themselves to compulsory COVID-19 vaccination at the hands of the corrupt elite – whom she identified as the Deep State .

Below is the transcription of the full speech delivered to the Italian Parliament by Sara Cunial, the Member of Parliament for Rome.

* * *

Sara Cunial

The Member of Parliament for Rome

Speech delivered to the Italian Parliament

May 2020

https://www.youtube.com/embed/QnsYcsCjLWI

[Emphasis ours]

Hobbes said that absolute power does not come from an imposition from above but by the choice of individuals who feel more protected renouncing to their own freedom and granting it to a third party.

With this, you are going on anesthetizing the minds with corrupted Mass Media with Amuchina (a brand of disinfectant promoted by Mass Media) and NLP, with words like "regime", "to allow" and "to permit", to the point of allowing you to regulate our emotional ties and feelings and certify our affects.

So, in this way, Phase 2 is nothing else than the persecution/continuation of Phase 1 – you just changed the name, as you did with the European Stability Mechanism (ESM). We have understood people, for sure, don't die for the virus alone. So people will be allowed to die and suffer, thanks to you and your laws, for misery and poverty. And, as in the "best" regimes, the blame will be dropped only on citizens. You take away our freedom and say that we looked for it. Divide et Impera (Divide and Rule).

It is our children who will lose more, who are 'raped souls', with the help of the so-called "guarantor of their rights" and of CISMAI (Italian Coordination of Services against Child Abuse). In this way, the right to school will be granted only with a bracelet to get them used to probation, to get them used to slavery – involuntary treatment and to virtual lager. All this in exchange for a push-scooter and a tablet. All to satisfy the appetites of a financial capitalism whose driving force is the conflict of interest, conflict well represented by the WHO, whose main financier is the well-known "philanthropist and savior of the world" Bill Gates.

We all know it, now. Bill Gates, already in 2018, predicted a pandemic, simulated in October 2019 at the "Event 201", together with Davos (Switzerland). For decades, Gates has been working on Depopulation policy and dictatorial control plans on global politics, aiming to obtain the primacy on agriculture, technology and energy.

Gates said, I quote exactly from his speech:

"If we do a good job on vaccines, health and reproduction, we can reduce the world population by 10-15%. Only a genocide can save the world".

With his vaccines, Gates managed to sterilize millions of women in Africa. Gates caused a polio epidemic that paralyzed 500,000 children in India and still today with DTP, Gates causes more deaths than the disease itself. And he does the same with GMOs designed by Monsanto and "generously donated" to needy populations. All this while he is already thinking about distributing the quantum tattoo for vaccination recognition and mRNA vaccines as tools for reprogramming our immune system. In addition, Gates also does business with several multinationals that own 5G facilities in the USA.

On this table there is the entire Deep State in Italian sauce : Sanofi, together with GlaxoSmithKline are friends of the Ranieri Guerra, Ricciardi, and of the well-known virologist that we pay 2000 Euro every 10 minutes for the presentations on Rai (Italian state TV. She's probably talking about Burioni). Sanofi and GlaxoSmithKline sign agreements with medical societies to indoctrinate future doctors, making fun of their autonomy of judgment and their oath.

Hi-Tech multinationals, like the Roman Engineering which is friend of the noble Mantoan, or Bending Spoons, of Pisano, which are there for control and manage our personal health datas in agreement with the European Agenda ID2020 of electronic identification, which aims to use mass vaccination to obtain a digital platform of digital ID. This is a continuation of the transfer of data started by Renzi to IBM. Renzi, in 2016, gave a plus 30% to Gates Global Fund.

On the Deep State table there are the people of Aspen, like the Saxon Colao, who with his 4-pages reports, paid 800 Euros/hour, with no scientific review, dictates its politics as a Bilderberg general as he is, staying away from the battlefield. The list is long. Very long. In the list there is also Mediatronic, by Arcuri and many more.

The Italian contribution to the International Alliance Against Coronavirus will be of 140 million Euros, of which 120 million Euros will be given to GAVI Alliance, the non-profit by Gates Foundation. They are just a part of the 7.4 billion Euro fund by the EU to find a vaccine against Coronavirus – vaccines which will be used as I said before.

No money, of course for serotherapy, which has the collateral effect of being super cheap. No money for prevention, a real prevention, which includes our lifestyles, our food and our relationship with the environment.

The real goal of all of this is total control. Absolute domination of human beings, transformed into guinea pigs and slaves, violating sovereignty and free will. All this thanks to tricks/hoax disguised as political compromises. While you rip up the Nuremberg code with involuntary treatment, fines and deportation, facial recognition and intimidation, endorsed by dogmatic scientism – protected by our "Multi-President" of the Republic who is real cultural epidemic of this country.

We, with the people, will multiply the fires of resistance in a way that you won't be able to repress all of us.

I ask you, President, to be the spokesperson and give an advice to our President Conte: Dear Mr. President Conte, next time you receive a phone call from the philanthropist Bill Gates forward it directly to the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity. If you won't do this, tell us how we should define you, the "friend lawyer" who takes orders from a criminal.

Thank you.

[May 17, 2020] No Evidence Coronavirus Was Made in a Chinese Lab Fauci Says

May 05, 2020 | www.informationclearinghouse.info
By teleSUR

" Information Clearing House " - Trump insists that his administration has evidence that the virus was created in Wuhan city. The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Director Anthony Fauci Monday reiterated that there is no scientific evidence to claim that the SARS-CoV coronavirus was created in a laboratory. His statement contradicts again the theory on the origin of COVID-19 defended by the U.S. President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

"If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated," Fauci said in an interview with National Geographic

"Everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus] evolved in nature and then jumped species," the U.S. government's leading epidemiologist added.

His statements are in line with those set forth by the World Health Organization (WHO), a United Nations agency that ratified on Monday that the coronavirus is of animal origin. "The coronavirus circulates ancestrally between bats.

"That is something we know based on this virus's genetic sequence. What we need to understand is which animal... was infected by bats and transmitted it to humans," the WHO Emerging Diseases Department Director Maria Van Kerkhove said.

Demand Trump's incompetent, unqualified son-in-law be removed from the coronavirus response team! #care2 https://t.co/TN8jpMIw2p

-- Frank (@watercutter11) May 5, 2020

Nevertheless, Trump insists that the U.S. government has evidence that the virus was created in a laboratory in Wuhan (China), something that the Intelligence Directorate also rejected.

Are You Tired Of The Lies And Non-Stop Propaganda?

On Tuesday morning, the U.S. president also reacted angrily to a video titled "Mourning In America" produced by The Lincoln Project (LP), a conservative group opposed to Trump's reelection which blames him for mishandling the COVID-19 pandemic.

"There's mourning in America - and under the leadership of Donald Trump, our country is weaker, sicker, and poorer," the LP video points out and adds that the United States is on the brink of a new Great Depression.

In response to the above, Trump released his discomfort by calling the Lincoln Project members "losers."​​​​​​​

[May 16, 2020] The controversy and confusion on wearing masks

May 16, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Likklemore , May 16 2020 18:11 utc | 130

the Controversy and confusion on wearing masks:

Should everyone be wearing face masks? It's complicated.

Why don't masks protect the wearer?
Paul Glasziou, Professor of Medicine, Bond University and Chris Del Mar, Professor of Public Health, Bond University, AU
also endorsed by epidemiologists in UK, CAD.


[.] There are several possible reasons why masks don't offer significant protection. First, masks may not do much without eye protection. We know from animal and laboratory experiments that influenza or other coronaviruses can enter the eyes and travel to the nose and into the respiratory system.

While standard and special masks provide incomplete protection, special masks combined with goggles appear to provide complete protection in laboratory experiments. However, there are no studies in real-world situations measuring the results of combined mask and eyewear.

The apparent minimal impact of wearing masks might also be because people didn't use them properly. For example, one study found less than half of the participants wore them "most of the time". People may also wear masks inappropriately, or touch a contaminated part of the mask when removing it and transfer the virus to their hand, then their eyes and thus to the nose.

Masks may also provide a false sense of security, meaning wearers might do riskier things such as going into crowded spaces and places.[.]

Got goggles or a Visor? Eye protection is essential.

[May 16, 2020] The obvious shortcomings of the USA government reaction: no distributions of free masks, no temperature checks, no oxymeter checks, no retrofitted busses and other transportation to have individual air supplies, no retrofitting air conditioners

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... > How about we follow WHO's rule zero: test, test and test? ..."
"... Why the USA did not implemented entry/exist temperature checks (even at airports) I do not understand. The richest nation in the world has the government which is probably the most inept and disfunctional ..."
"... It looks like this is mainly the disease of megacities and industries with closely packed people (ships, meatpacking plants, Amazon warepuses) . And a large part of large cities infrastructure such as subways and air-conditioned building, hotels and shops are ideal environment for spreading of the virus. ..."
"... Another interesting feature of this virus is that it simply revealed how unhealthy the USA population generally is. For example, the epidemic of obesity now is tightly intermixed with the epidemic of COVID-19. Within the limits of the neoliberal social system very little can be done about it: for profit medicine makes is more fragile and create multiple avenue of abusing people. ..."
May 16, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

likbez , May 16, 2020 at 19:42

@vk | May 16 2020 15:52 utc | 108

> How about we follow WHO's rule zero: test, test and test?

Do you understand the cost of each test? Some data suggest that it is between $50 and $100. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-15/coronavirus-tests-from-labcorp-quest-will-cost-50-to-100

Do you understand that the current polymerase tests have 20-30% of false positives?

So if everybody in the USA is tested around 60-80 million people in the USA would be deemed infected. I suspect that a very large percentage of "asymptomatics" are in reality false positives.

We need to distinguish between the necessary measures and fearmongering. I suspect that in the case of polymerase test the mantra "test, test, test" is close to the latter. This is s rather expensive test and money probably can be better spend distributing masks to the population. That would instantly give a larger effect. The simple measure that in the USA was not done. Just for that Fauci should be fired and probably tried, IMHO.

The same is probably true with the distribution of oxymeters too: people with lows reading need oxygen. As simple as that. That probably will cut hospitalizations in half.

My impression is that temperature and oxymeter testing might be a proxy for polymerase testing and much cheaper: if oxygen saturation is less then 90% the person need to be isolated/treated with oxygen

Why the USA did not implemented entry/exist temperature checks (even at airports) I do not understand. The richest nation in the world has the government which is probably the most inept and disfunctional

It looks like this is mainly the disease of megacities and industries with closely packed people (ships, meatpacking plants, Amazon warepuses) . And a large part of large cities infrastructure such as subways and air-conditioned building, hotels and shops are ideal environment for spreading of the virus.

Even reasonable prophylactic measures do not work that well in large cities. Slums and homeless are and will be hotspots.

Even at work enforcing prophylactic measures is non trivial. You need to change mask each 2 hours when you are working inside. How many people will do that ?

I think there is not way out other then clench your teeth and go forward adapting the behavior as new information about the virus emerge.

For example individual supply of air in planes, trains and buses (which existed in old planes and some buses ) might be an important psychological (and with better filters medical) measure required.

Also Cruise ships "experiments" suggest that only around 20% of population is susceptible to the virus. Even among Wuhan medics who started working with coronavirus patients without wearing protective equipment only around half got the disease. The simplistic assumption that 100% of people is susceptible is just a myth propagated by fearmongers for fun and profit.

Another interesting feature of this virus is that it simply revealed how unhealthy the USA population generally is. For example, the epidemic of obesity now is tightly intermixed with the epidemic of COVID-19. Within the limits of the neoliberal social system very little can be done about it: for profit medicine makes is more fragile and create multiple avenue of abusing people.

[May 16, 2020] TSA Better late then never: To Check Passengers' Temperature At Airports

There are four month late...
May 16, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) will be checking passengers' temperatures at select airports next week.

People familiar with the matter told The Wall Street Journal that additional details would be unveiled in the near term. The program is expected to roll out at 12 airports next week and will cost $20 million to implement. Thermal check fees will be waived for travelers and likely expensed to the federal government.

[May 16, 2020] Note to the quarantine/vaccine promoter Fauci: Any sufficiently advanced cluelessness is indistinguishable from malice

May 16, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

1. 'BE AFRAID '

The first message is that covid19 is terrifying, unique, an existential threat to the human race.

This message is never sourced to much fact, because the facts about the virus don't really support it. If it cites anything solid it's the appallingly sloppy and discredited Imperial computer model, or some generic research into the pathology of severe infections or rare viral syndromes, which it tries to spin as being unique to covid19, even though it is not. But mostly it doesn't cite anything at all. Or really claim anything at all.

It just tells people to be afraid. Very afraid. Of death, of uncertainty, of the 'virus', of other people, of 'fake news'.

The fear being encouraged is not rooted in facts, and is therefore impervious to them.

2. 'THERE IS NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF '

The second message is that covid19 is actually pretty harmless and no big deal.

This message is rooted in a great deal of fact, because, as we have been pointing out since day one, pretty much all the data coming out about this virus supports exactly this conclusion.

No official body has ever denied this, and most of them readily admit it. Regularly and unambiguously. Here and here and here and here .

Chris Whitty above is only one of many and this is not even his first go (see here ) at explaining clearly that covid19 is only dangerous to a very very small minority of people, and that most who get it will be just fine.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/adj8MCsZKlg

Here's a slide from his talk on April 30th:

At an individual level the chances of dying of coronavirus are low.

• Over the whole epidemic, even if there is no vaccine, a high proportion
will not get it.

• Of those who do, a significant proportion (exact number not yet clear)
have no symptoms.

• Of the symptomatic cases, the great majority (around 80%) a mild-
moderate disease.

• A minority have to go to hospital, most need only oxygen. The great
majority of these survive.

• A minority of those need ventilation.

• A minority of every agegroup sadly die with current treatment, but even
of the oldest group most do not.

[T]he great majority of people will not die from this and I'll just repeat something I said right at the beginning because I think it's worth reinforcing :

Most people, a significant proportion of people, will not get this virus at all, at any point of the epidemic which is going to go on for a long period of time.

Of those who do, some of them will get the virus without even knowing it, they will have the virus with no symptoms at all, asymptomatic carriage, and we know that happens.

Of those who get symptoms, the great majority, probably 80%, will have a mild or moderate disease. Might be bad enough for them to have to go to bed for a few days, not bad enough for them to have to go to the doctor.

An unfortunate minority will have to go as far as hospital, but the majority of those will just need oxygen and will then leave hospital.

And then a minority of those will end up having to go to severe end critical care and some of those sadly will die.

But that's a minority, it's 1% or possibly even less than 1% overall.

And even in the highest risk group this is significantly less than 20%, ie. the great majority of people, even the very highest groups, if they catch this virus, will not die.

And I really wanted to make that point really clearly

[May 16, 2020] I know it does not fit the fear agenda but COVID-19 disruption present much higher threat to children then CODIV-19 itself.

May 16, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

ted01 , May 16 2020 0:17 utc | 32

Australia - deaths from Covid-19

Total - 98 (15/05/2020)

0-39 = 0
40-49 = 1
50-59 = 2
60-69 = 11
70-79 = 31
80-89 = 34
90+ = 19

Australian Government Dept. of Health

I know it does not fit the fear agenda.

As the lockdown has been eased in most Australian states there have been zero announcements on additional protections for the elderly & infirm.

Why are the Federal & state governments doing nothing but the most basic measures to ensure the safety of the elderly & infirm?

fairleft , May 16 2020 2:37 utc | 37

Yes, Ken Garoo @26, the fearmongers have blood on their hands, not just in the UK, and this is a massive life-and-death crisis. More evidence, from another unimpeachable source various MoA stalwarts will now have to claim is a hack:

Unicef warns lockdown could kill more than Covid-19 as model predicts 1.2 million child deaths
Subhead: 'Indiscriminate lockdowns' are an ineffective way to control Covid and could contribute to a 45 per cent rise in child mortality

"...According to a stark report published in Lancet Global Health journal on Wednesday, almost 1.2 million children could die in the next six months due to the disruption to health services and food supplies caused by the coronavirus pandemic.

"The modelling, by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and Unicef, found that child mortality rates could rise by as much as 45 per cent due to coronavirus-related disruptions, while maternal deaths could increase by almost 39 per cent.

"Dr [Stefan Peterson, chief of health at UNICEF] said these figures were in part a reflection of stringent restrictions in much of the world that prevent people leaving their homes without documentation, preventing them from accessing essential health care services. ...

"...Covid is not a children's disease. Yes there are rare instances and we see them publicised across the media. But pneumonia, diarrhoea, measles, death in childbirth, these are the reasons we will see deaths rise."

[May 15, 2020] Ferguson fraud and Orlov tale of coronavirus epidemic

May 15, 2020 | thenewkremlinstooge.wordpress.com

Mark Chapman May 9, 2020 at 10:55 am

Hurrah! I have my blogroll back! I'm just starting to build it. At some point in the frequent rollouts of new WordPress features, they added a 'WP Admin' button, which gives access to the 'Links' page and allowed me to eliminate those irritating default links, as well as add new ones. So, I'm just getting started, but among the must-sees I stumbled across while starting out with links I knew I wanted to add right away are one discussing the coronavirus (haven't even read all of it myself yet) at Club Orlov;

https://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2020/05/gaslighting-coronavirus.html

and a great article, very much on point with this post, at Irrussianality, detailing the absolutely flabbergasting Joint Statement on the Anniversary of the End of the Second World War, on the USA's State Department website. The Nazis get one mention – the rest is non-stop Russia is evil.

https://irrussianality.wordpress.com/2020/05/08/joint-statement-on-the-75th-anniversary-of-the-end-of-the-second-world-war/ I'm not sure what Dmitry Orlov does for a living, but if he is exclusively a writer when he's not sailing around, I suppose he is entitled to charge a fee for his product, and I have found it consistently excellent and well-sourced, much like John Helmer's work (although that is still free). Orlov's blog is only $2.50 a month at the basic level of subscriber, and that's cheap enough for me. I encourage readers to subscribe at the same level, because it's an excellent resource. In this case, I had just skipped over it very quickly, because I wanted to add it to the blogroll. I read the first couple of paragraphs, divined that it was not only about the coronavirus, but vindicated many of my own beliefs, and went elsewhere to add another site. I did not notice until I came back to it that it was now subscription-only.

So I'll copy a few salient points for everyone, and they can judge for themselves if they are willing to pay a couple of bucks for that kind of content. It was not all about the coronavirus – it started out about that, and sort of segued into the precarious position the USA is now in economically. So that's why it may look like two different posts; I am just excerpting at random: the entire post is much too long to copy. Presuming you have read as much of the post as was already included as a teaser before it became subscriber-only

"First, let's handle the question of vaccination. There is a measles vaccine, yet it kills 140,000 a year. There is a pneumococcus vaccine, yet it kills between 2 and 2.5 million a year. There is a hepatitis B vaccine, yet it kills 140,000. There is a tetanus vaccine, yet it kills 89,000 annually. There is a rotavirus vaccine, yet it kills 800,000. There is a HPV vaccine, yet it kills 250,000. There is a tuberculosis vaccine, yet it kills 1.5 million. There is an influenza vaccine, yet it kills 650,000 to 1 million a year. None of these are considered pandemics, cause entire economies to be shut down, or call for any extraordinary measures at all.

And then there is the novel coronavirus which has killed 218,187 people to date (the vast majority of them very old and/or very sick) -- and this is considered to be a problem to be solved with all possible haste. Some infectious disease experts have suggested that the entire populace may be required to shelter in place until a vaccine becomes available. Meanwhile, deaths from the novel coronavirus largely fit within the usual mortality of the flu season. The northern hemisphere winter was warmer than usual, and some of the elderly and sick people who would have been killed off by any of the usual influenza viruses (including other coronaviruses) during any of the previous three flu seasons were claimed by the novel coronavirus.

But even this is uncertain because it is unclear whether these 218,187 deaths were actually caused by the coronavirus or whether the coronavirus just happened to be present in their bodies at the time of death. Furthermore, a lot of people were diagnosed as suffering from this coronavirus based on symptoms which are not too different from those caused by other viral agents. Lastly, the vast majority of those who have died from it had what are called comorbidities. Elderly immunocompromised morbidly obese diabetics with high blood pressure, cancer and other potential fatal ailments have been particularly susceptible. If you discard all fatal cases with comorbidities and only consider young healthy people, then the number of deaths where the new coronavirus is obviously the root cause may turn out to be as low as zero.

Confirmed novel coronavirus cases number less than 3,147,626 worldwide, which is 0.04% of the world's population. This barely adds up to a cough and a sneeze. As this virus has spread throughout the world the increase in cases has slowed, but the number of confirmed cases could yet double or even triple, adding up to as much as three coughs and three sneezes. But then the World Health Organization enters the fray. The WHO makes gratuitous use of appellations such as "world" and "health" but is actually a semi-private entity lavishly financed by Bill Gates and Big Pharma, which is owned by a handful of highly inbred oligarchic entities that include Vanguard, BlackRock, Capital Group, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Northern Trust and State Street, which in turn own each other in various convoluted ways. WHO's main function is to scare people into getting vaccinated and accepting expensive drug regimens (barely half of which do any good at all), thus funneling resources toward Big Pharma.

The World Health Organization establishes thresholds to determine whether to declare an influenza epidemic that range between 2.5% and 5%. The novel coronavirus misses the mark by a thousand-fold, yet the WHO has declared it to be the cause of a global pandemic. If this seems like an extreme overreaction, that is because this is an extreme overreaction. Some conspiratorially-minded people may surmise that this is a conspiracy, but it isn't. It is yet another blatant attempt to confiscate a chunk of the world's wealth by requiring it to buy something worthless, just like this same set of medical/financial interests did with the relatively worthless Tamiflu antiviral medication during the H1N1 swine flu pandemic of 2009-10 which caused a mere 18,036 deaths worldwide. This is a specific group pursuing its own group interests."

Then he went into how the Chinese and the Russians are respectively manipulating the coronavirus in their own countries for their own ends

"The Chinese have taken the novel coronavirus outbreak as a chance to train for repelling a biological warfare attack. To argue that this coronavirus is indeed the agent of a biowarfare attack is to argue for something extremely stupid because it just isn't effective as a biowarfare agent. It's almost as bad as Novichok, which was touted as being able to wipe out entire armies but only managed to sicken five people and kill just one of them. It doesn't matter whether this coronavirus leaked out of a dead bat or a biowarfare lab, or both -- it just isn't any good as a weapon. But the Chinese government imposed extreme, unprecedented controls over much of the population and the economy. The Russians followed suit, with the difference that while the Chinese saw these extreme measures as temporary, setting up makeshift hospitals, the Russians seized on them as a chance to fundamentally upgrade the entire health care system, setting it up to effectively handle any future biological warfare attacks.

In doing so, the Chinese and the Russians pursued different goals. The Chinese need to find a way to stop shipping actual physical manufactured goods to the US in exchange for pieces of paper or promises to pay, all of which are about to become worthless, without triggering a dangerous escalation. The need to do so with all necessary haste became obvious in mid-August of 2019, when it turned out that banks were no longer willing to accept US Treasury debt instruments as collateral for overnight loans. These were supposedly the safest investments in the world that made up the world's largest and most liquid financial market -- until it turned out that they weren't that at all."

And on the American economy

"There are two important global processes which, while they will affect the US particularly severely, go far beyond its geographic confines. One is the still relatively gradual process of dethroning the US dollar from its position of dominance. Until the coronavirus pandemic disrupted much of the global economy, most of its participants were interested in preserving some measure of stability to the dollar system. But now that trade has already been disrupted, an opening has been created to dump the dollar without necessarily causing economic damage significantly worse than already exists. The actions of the Federal Reserve, which is in the process of monetizing a large proportion of existing US government debt and virtually all of the new debt being issued to cover the ever-growing budget deficit, are undermining the dollar as well. Although the term "debt monetization" is being used to describe what's happening, issuing currency with which to buy up worthless promissory notes stretches the definition of "debt" beyond any reasonable limit, while "monetization" is far too dignified a term for such a desperate delaying tactic. As a consequence, some analysts do not see US dollar-based global financial system holding up too far beyond this year.

The other process is the rapid transition of the US from the world's largest producer of oil to one of the smallest, because the fracking bonanza has largely run its course. It has never really made any money, since fracked oil is, for technological reasons, always too expensive to sustain economic growth. And now, with an economic depression setting in, economies at a standstill and oil futures trading in the negative territory (where market participants are willing to pay producers to get out of having take delivery of the oil when the contract matures) the fracking industry is going bankrupt, production is falling, and in less than a year it is likely to be down by as much as 70%. At that point, any attempt at economic recovery in the US will involve having to start importing large quantities of oil from a world supply that, with the exception of fracked oil from the US, hasn't expanded much since 2005."

et Al May 10, 2020 at 1:50 am
My view is that despite this being all highly disruptive, it will prepare us all for the inevitable outbreak of a truly deadly virus that will also kill the young and healthy too (hopefully not cats). The world is becoming ever more globalized, transmission chains and time seriously shortened. There will be no escape even on the periphery. A biological version of Neville Shute's On the Beach.

Handling this well (in future) is eminently doable without even losing a (metaphorical) bollock. It is basic stuff and really shouldn't be 'a thing.' The WHO is a redirection nothing burger for those who are responsible for the abrogation of national competence. Decisions are still taken at the national level, no? The WHO is a spokesbody and therein it does have a role to play. It is neither free from political inteference or influence just like every other international organization.

Fortunately, Asia has shown the common-sense that we in the old world have lost through our own arrogance and self-importance. We should be humiliated, but we are not. We're too busy blaming others.

This CoVid-19 outbreak has provided everyone with a crystal clear warning of precisely how incompetent many nation states are over basic provision of health and pandemic planning in the 21st Century. This isn't 1918. Things are supposed to have moved on a bit but it has exposed the ideology of cuts, penny-pinching and not-give-a-f/kery over common-sense by those elected (by us) to provide responsible government. They've been warned multiple times about the risks, not to mention the series of other outbreaks in this century. Still, they're rather more interested in squeaking out ever leaner efficiencies to maximize profit.

I'm not worried about the planet, we'll knock ourselves off first.

Happy Mothers Day!

Patrick Armstrong May 10, 2020 at 10:01 am
My initial feeling was that the initial reaction of Putin, Trump and Johnson was to let the thing burn itself out and maybe put the effort into looking after the most at risk. The Imperial College thing seems to be the reason why Trump and Johnson went to lockdown and that left me puzzled why Putin did. Orlov's piece gave me the idea that maybe, after talking to Xi, Putin decided to use it as a test of Russia's ability to handle a bioattack. Notice that Russia is actually building specialised hospitals around the country rather than just (as in the West) temporarily re-purposing large facilities. We'll probably never know but it's a thought I will keep in the Maybe File.
Mark Chapman May 10, 2020 at 10:55 am
Agreed; I could think of no good reason for it, and consequently Orlov's speculation came as a revelation. Again, it's only speculation on his part, but it does make sense and fits with the Sino-Russian concept of every experience being a teachable moment, to be wrung for such lessons as it may yield.

It is fairly well-known that Johnson's initial plan was to go for herd immunity and just say bollocks to social distancing, but something caused him to abruptly reverse himself after the UK had already started a pretty respectable infection curve. I'm not familiar with the 'Imperial College thing'; could you enlighten me? I do know that impatience at being shut in with no job is increasingly unpopular with people everywhere it prevails, and governments are having a harder time keeping the lid on. I can only imagine it is the same for Putin's government.

Patrick Armstrong May 10, 2020 at 11:47 am
Imperial College model https://www.ft.com/content/16764a22-69ca-11ea-a3c9-1fe6fedcca75
Looks rather GIGO https://lockdownsceptics.org/code-review-of-fergusons-model/
Mark Chapman May 10, 2020 at 11:57 am
I see; thanks for that. I remember reading mentions of a study which forecast incredible death tolls, but didn't realize that was it. Well, no way they could have done anything else, in the face of that – 2.2 million deaths in the US, and more than half a million in the UK.

I don't suppose they will ever be called to account for their fearmongering quackery. To nobody's surprise, I'm sure, the Imperial College receives generous grants from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the most recent in March of this year – just shy of $80 Million, to develop a new tool for malaria control and elimination in sub-Saharan Africa.

https://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database/Grants/2020/03/OPP1210755

Nor was that the only one, by a long chalk; 80 donations between 2006 and 2018. This website does ask that a disclaimer be included that the data are preliminary; final development is not expected to be achieved until 2022. But at first glance, it looks like the full amount will run into quite a few decimal places.

https://donations.vipulnaik.com/donorDonee.php?donor=Bill+and+Melinda+Gates+Foundation&donee=Imperial+College+London

Patient Observer May 10, 2020 at 12:23 pm
An under-reported fact in the US is the abundance of empty ICUs and now a surplus of ventilators. A nearby city is laying off 2,500 medical personnel for lack of work (presumably mobilized for the pandemic).

IIRC, a local story blew the whistle on a staged waiting line for Covid-19 testing; most of the people in line (including medical volunteers who had nothing to do) were asked to to stand in line to provide video footage for a network news team.

Saw this clever play on words – plandemic.

Mark Chapman May 10, 2020 at 12:48 pm
Yes, that's correct: Cherry Health, in Grand Rapids, Michigan. The article points out that Cherry Health stands to lose millions as a result of the crisis.

https://www.woodtv.com/news/grand-rapids/expert-accusations-of-staged-covid-19-test-line-fodder-for-doubters/

Patrick Armstrong May 10, 2020 at 12:47 pm
More fun to come, Mark https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/05/government-coronavirus-scientist-resigns-meeting-married-lover-lockdown-12659413/
Mark Chapman May 10, 2020 at 12:52 pm
Ha, ha!! Dear God. Well, I hope he doesn't lose his tasty bit on the side over this – he'll probably top himself. She looks quite yummy. But it's always the same, innit? Those who make up the rules get a great kick out of it, but feel free to disregard them themselves as soon as they get in the way.
Patrick Armstrong May 10, 2020 at 1:58 pm
And still more https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2020/05/httpsenwikipediaorgwikiavaaz.html
Patrick Armstrong May 10, 2020 at 1:58 pm
And still more https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2020/05/httpsenwikipediaorgwikiavaaz.html
Patient Observer May 11, 2020 at 5:07 am
Makes one wonder if the virus response is being managed at some level to cull the old and frail to reduce health care costs. The obvious vulnerability of nursing home residents combined with the apparent lack of resources specifically devoted to protecting those individuals suggests high level scheming in that regard.

It was only a few months ago that we exceptional people were told that masks were useless and unneeded (except for health care workers who desperately needed them for self-protection). It is likely that policy lead to a rapid spread in the vulnerable population.

It is remarkable how quickly the "masks are useless" directive has been officially forgotten. Now, it's all about how China allowed us to mishandle the situation.

Mark Chapman May 11, 2020 at 8:34 am
I would think not, only because no apparent effort has been made to ensure infection of the homeless in their cardboard cities, and wipe them out. Here, as I have mentioned before, Mayor Helps has given them a city park to use as their own squalid state, constantly refers to them tenderly as 'our most vulnerable', and provides them no end of services, all for free on the taxpayer. If your ambitions are modest, there is no real incentive to work.

If it were all part of a diabolical plan, you would think that plan would allow for taking out the 'useless eaters' among the poor and helpless, as well as the old.

Fern May 12, 2020 at 5:15 pm
It certainly looks that way but such a plot requires a competence that our political elites (at least in the UK) just don't have. Unfortunately, we're led by the shallow, ignorant and inexperienced who responded to a serious health problem with blind panic. It's common sense that a virus, which is particularly dangerous for the elderly, shouldn't be let out to play in care homes; that steps should have been taken to protect the vulnerable rather than putting everyone under house arrest while destroying their livelihoods. But common sense is a bit like common courtesy, not actually that common when you get right down to it.

Professor Neil Ferguson (he of the 500,000 deaths forecast) and his Imperial College team have a dire track record of forecasting in previous health crises, consistently wrong by an order of magnitude. Yet it seems that no-one in government or our once highly competent civil service had either the skills or time to query his forecasting model and the assumptions he made. The fact that he broke the lockdown, introduced as a result of his forecast, in order to dally with his mistress, does kind of suggest he doesn't believe in his own figures.

Mark Chapman May 12, 2020 at 6:04 pm
Yes, it sounds as if you are right. I suppose one reason it looks like a well-managed conspiracy is that it was such a startlingly stupid thing to do – it's difficult to imagine people would willingly cause such destruction without the slightest look to the future.

Johnson is an idiot, but his first instinct – or apparently so, I suppose it might have been just paralysis – was the correct one; proceed as normal, no reason to believe this is the Black Death.

et Al May 13, 2020 at 12:52 am
The phrase Never let a good crisis go to waste springs to mind.*
Mark Chapman May 11, 2020 at 8:28 am
It's almost like the 'pandemic' is just an excuse for something, and the rest is just going through the motions.

On relaxation of restrictions, it's mostly a game of feeling for the level of restriction the public will tolerate, because it is so grateful for the degree of freedom allowed it. I imagine when stores are opened, they're going to want Soviet-style lineups outside, social-distancing 6 feet apart, because only 50 people are allowed inside at any one time. So they can social-distance inside as well, as if that were somehow an effective contagious-virus countermeasure, the way grocery stores are now. And 50 seems to be the magic number no matter the size of the store, except for kiosks which are only allowed to serve one person inside at a time.

The local pizza hotspot, Romeo's, seems to be doing a land-office business, and is probably making money. They only serve take-out now, no inside service, so they only have to pay the cooks and perhaps two counter-service persons; no waitresses or waiters or busboys. And the line outside frequently is about a quarter-mile. But they still have to pay their rent based on the size of the building, which is wasteful – look for perhaps quite a few businesses switching to take-out only in the course of time, and renting smaller premises. Because of course The Authorities are going to want social-distancing inside restaurants as well as we emerge, to preserve the illusion that they knew what they were about.

[May 15, 2020] America has a surveillance state but it refuses to use it to save lives. Instead, it uses it to save Wall Street and protect the extractive elite from any TRUE REAL threat.

May 15, 2020 | www.unz.com

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Case in point. America has a surveillance state but it refuses to use it to save lives. Instead, it uses it to save Wall Street and protect the extractive elite from any TRUE REAL threat. I relish the notion of this virus running rampant across America until it ravages, and decimates actually, the Praetorian Guard Class, the managerial class if you will, that licks the ass of the extractive elite for some bread crust, discarded steak fat and a Tesla. I want to see them truly suffer for their sins.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/12/us/coronavirus-reopening-shutdown.html

After weeks cooped up at home following governors' orders to contain the coronavirus outbreak, U.S. residents appear eager to get moving again. As more states began to relax restrictions, about 25 million more people ventured outside their homes on an average day last week than during the preceding six weeks, a New York Times analysis of cellphone data found .

In nearly every part of the country, the share of people staying home dropped, in some places by nearly 11 percentage points.

As the death toll from this pandemic rises in America with no end in sight, Wall Street, as reflected in the DJIA, doesn't even blink and actually cheers. It doesn't get any sicker than that. Wall Street sees the carnage as an opportunity to make more profit off of death and the extractive elite see it as an opportunity to concentrate wealth even further and rid the world of burdensome useless eaters. It's sick. It's sadistic. It's malevolent. It's evil. It's our reality.

Damn them all to hell.

[May 13, 2020] A Pandemic of Know-Nothings

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... The coronavirus reminds us that the gap between what we think we know and what we actually do know is enormous. ..."
"... American Journal of Public Health ..."
May 13, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

The coronavirus reminds us that the gap between what we think we know and what we actually do know is enormous.

Dr. Deborah Birx, White House coronavirus response coordinator, shows off charts with members of the coronavirus task force during a briefing in response to the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic in the James S. Brady Press Briefing Room at the White House on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post via Getty Images)

May 13, 2020

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12:01 am

Matt Purple St. Louis Federal Reserve watchers, rejoice! And yes, I'm talking to both of you. The St. Louis Fed is freshly relevant this week thanks to a paper it published back in 2007 that examined the economic effects of the 1918 Spanish flu. Drawing on old newspaper articles, local surveys, and other studies -- national data back then was scarce -- the report found that the damage done to businesses by the outbreak was both severe and short-lived. The impact on the next generation, however, was longer-lasting. Those in utero during the pandemic went on to attain less education and lower incomes than had previous generations.

What we wouldn't give for that kind of glimpse from the future today. The coronavirus has killed hundreds of thousands while sledgehammering the economy, leaving close to a quarter of working-age Americans either unemployed or underemployed. And we still have no idea how it will end. It may be that this recession is similar to the one in 1918, cutting deeply but easing rapidly. Or it may be that we're in for another lost decade of stubborn unemployment and stagnant growth. It may be that the virus is seen off this summer, remembered as a frightening but ultimately brief ordeal. Or it may be that it lurks into the autumn, whereupon it comes roaring back.

We don't know, and we hate that we don't know. Consequently a cottage industry has sprung up around our uncertainty, hawking models, projections, expert opinions. These things have valid scientific purposes, of course, but thrown down the rabbit hole of our popular discourse, they've taken on a kind of hysterical clairvoyance, supposedly able to tell us what's coming and how we should respond. With climate change, we grew accustomed to the idea that scientists could see into the future. Now we're demanding they do the same with the coronavirus. That's despite the fact that so far, none of these projections have demonstrated any greater predictive ability than your average call to Miss Cleo.

Take the government's official death toll projections. Back in January, the White House was largely complacent over the coronavirus, with President Trump comparing it to the seasonal flu and his health secretary saying that Americans need "not worry for their own safety." Then in late March, the pendulum swung towards apocalypse. Actually, the White House said, 200,000 Americans could die. Two weeks later, the death toll projection fell to a far rosier 60,000 , and the country breathed a sigh of relief ahead of Easter weekend. Then the projections ticked upwards yet again. Today, IHME, the White House's principal modeler, predicts that 147,000 Americans will be killed by August 4.

Some of the issue here may be the choice of models. IHME has been criticized by epidemiologists , as have the Imperial College modelers in Britain (who have lately been distracted by, er, more extracurricular activities ). But the bigger problem is best summed up in a quote to Politico by the head of IHME, explaining why his organization's projections were so wrong. "We had presumed, perhaps naively," he said, "that given the magnitude of the epidemic, most states would stick to their social distancing until the end of May." In other words, the models are premised on assumptions that can be scrambled by real-world events, whether political decisions or acts of God or the caprices of the virus itself. They aren't showing us the future so much as extrapolating off of a snapshot, one that can easily change. Yet we treat them as practically mystic. "200,000 could die!!" scream the headlines, with "could" ever the weasel word.

We don't just do this with the death toll. On the economy, too, we seem hopelessly confused. Here's a smattering of headlines from the past two months: "Unemployment rate could exceed 20% by June, top White House adviser says." "Economists see uneven jobs recovery, high U.S. unemployment through 2021." "Top JPMorgan investment advisor: It will take '10 to 12 years' for U.S. employment levels to return." "The coronavirus recession will be deeper and faster than the financial crisis." "Economists say quick rebound from recession is unlikely." "Trump's baseless claim that a recession would be deadlier than the coronavirus." "U.N. warns economic downturn could kill hundreds of thousands of children in 2020."

Stare into this blurry puddle long enough and you might conclude that no one has any idea what the hell they're talking about. Or you might fall back on your own biases, choosing to believe stories that buttress your political beliefs and speak to your own personal circumstances. Either way, this kind of confusion can have long-reaching effects. Consider, for example, a new study that was released last week, which found that there could be 75,000 so-called deaths of despair -- meaning suicides and drug and alcohol overdoses -- as a result of the coronavirus recession. It called to mind another social science finding , one of the most consequential of the last decade: that life expectancy among less educated, middle-aged, white Americans was declining, driven primarily by those deaths of despair.

That claim, courtesy of researchers Anne Case and Angus Deaton , made its way around the internet. It fed into the narrative of the populist right and Donald Trump. It provided an empirical grounding for "American carnage." But wait: a less noticed study a year later, which took Case's and Deaton's data and adjusted for age, found a more mixed picture. According to research from Columbia University , while middle-aged white women had indeed seen increased mortality rates, middle-aged white men had reversed this trend back in 2005. And then came another study, in the American Journal of Public Health , that challenged the very concept of "deaths of despair," warning that "the gap between deaths of despair as a claim and deaths of despair as a rigorously tested scientific concept is wide."

There is a Grand Canyon-sized gap between what we think we know and what we actually know. How to navigate this chasm? Two maxims can help.

The first comes from Friedrich Hayek: "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." Hayek was concerned with what he called the "fatal conceit," which he defined as the belief "that man is able to shape the world around him according to his wishes." We might add a corollary: that man is able to anticipate the world around him according to his wishes. Because knowledge is complex and dispersed, Hayek argued, no one can ever marshal enough of it to centrally plan an economy. Likewise even a sophisticated model can't have enough data to foresee how a pandemic will play out. There are simply too many variables, drawing on too many areas of life.

The second maxim comes from a very different source: John Dickinson, perhaps our most conservative founding father. "Experience must be our only guide," Dickinson said. "Reason may mislead us." Of course, by reason, he didn't mean vast computer algorithms struggling to track contagion across seven continents; he was thinking of 18th-century rationalism, which he contrasted with the more reliable yardstick of historical experience. While what seemed philosophically sound in the abstract could be tainted by personal bias or disconnected from real life, precedent was far more settled. How something had worked in the past was a good indication of how it would work in the future.

Unfortunately we have very little precedent when it comes to the coronavirus, though the Spanish flu can perhaps offer some clues. The 1918 influenza, like the current pandemic, began in the spring, only to enter a second wave in the fall that killed more people than the first. A third wave then began that winter and stretched into the summer of 1919. That's chilling, yet there's good news too: the recession that followed was short and quickly blossomed into the 1920s, one of the most dizzying economic expansions in our history.

So top hats and flapper dresses all around? Who knows? It's called the novel coronavirus for a reason. The awful truth is that we have very little idea how long this will go on and how it will ultimately turn out. And the reason for that is that we know so very much less than we think we do.

[May 13, 2020] There may be no vaccine. What then?

May 13, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

"Paul's challenge encapsulates the debate between elected officials eager to open up businesses and willing to accept the risk that more people will die, and public health experts committed to lowering infection rates and keeping the public as safe as possible.

" People are hurting and we're destroying our country ," Paul told reporters outside the hearing room. "We've got to open up business we got to let people vote, and we're not going to live in a perfect world without infectious disease, we're still going to have it, but we got to open the economy and that's the number one message I have."

The Kentucky senator, an opthamologist, told Fauci he didn't believe there would be a surge in cases if schools opened, which is not what public health experts say. Paul dismissed predictive models of the virus. "The history of this, when we look back, will be of wrong prediction after wrong prediction after wrong prediction ," Paul said.

Paul then targeted Fauci personally: "As much as I respect you Dr. Fauci, I don't think you're the end-all, I don't think you're the one person that gets to make the decision . We can listen to your advice. But there are people on the other side saying there won't be a surge and we can safely open the economy." CNBC

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IMO, there may or may not be an effective vaccine developed against COVID-19. Some virus bugs are never countered effectively by vaccines. There are no vaccines for the common cold, the Spanish Influenza of 1918, and many other virus strains. Some diseases must burn themselves out in a population by establishing herd immunity. Bubonic Plague is a bacterial infection, but the same thing was true of it. It ravaged Europe, but eventually the fire of infection burned out in Europe and those of us who are descended from Europeans are the descendants of the herd survivors.

COVID-19 is nothing like the Black Death or the Spanish Influenza in lethality except for the old and infirm. Suck it up, people! Cowboy up! Grow a pair! Fauci is a techno dweeb who would keep the US shut down economically until the survivors of COVID-19 would be living in a post-apocalyptic world of small communities living in poverty, a dystopian nightmare.

Rand Paul is also a doctor, and a survivor of the disease.

The Democrats are having a good time playing with Trump while the country burns to the ground economically.

Biden? Pelosi? Juan Williams? Northam? You want them? If you do, and you want to hunker down until the country dies, well then, Bless You! You will deserve what you get.

SWMBO and I, and the doggies are unlikely to be here to share your pain. pl

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/12/dr-anthony-fauci-sen-rand-paul-spar-over-safety-and-death-rates-among-children-with-coronavirus.html

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Jack , 12 May 2020 at 06:46 PM

Sir,

LA County apparently wants to extend the lockdown by another 3 months. This is just insane!

Old guys like me could hang out more at the ranch but the youth need to be out and about.

There's no perfect risk-free scenario as you point out. Unfortunately we have cultivated a nanny state of big government and big business that are quite rapacious in reality. Has any state actually passed legislation to enforce lockdowns? These are just executive orders at the state and local levels. It would appear that these orders suspends the constitution? I'm surprised no one has yet challenged these orders in state and federal courts.

We sure are an afraid lot. What happened to the derring-do?

james , 12 May 2020 at 06:55 PM
maybe they could do a special ufc - wrestling type show with paul and fauci.. the american public seem very keen on this sort of thing and would eat it up..

can someone explain how herd immunity works?? i've never heard of people being referred to as a herd... i missed that in school..

Keith Harbaugh , 12 May 2020 at 07:04 PM
BTW, notice how Ukraine has vanished from the national conversation.
Who needs to keep yapping about how Trump let down (one faction in) Ukraine when they can blame him for the economic calamity which, in point of fact, is due to the vast overreaction that has been pushed by the media and Dem politicians.
For example, failing to point out that New York has unique demographics, which directly and conclusively led to its high hospitalization and fatality rate.
turcopolier , 12 May 2020 at 07:21 PM
james

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity Idiot

Keith Harbaugh , 12 May 2020 at 08:02 PM
A key point the media doesn't adequately emphasize, IMO, is the sharpness of the dependency on age.
In Virginia, there have been, to date, roughly 900 deaths attributed to the virus.
Of those deaths, over half were to people over 80.
Roughly one quarter were people in their 70s.
About 15% were people on their 60s.
Less than 10% were people under 60.
There were ZERO deaths of people under 20.

To see a bar chart which shows the exact numbers, visit
https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/
Then click on "Demographics", then set "Select Measure" to "Deaths".

Fred , 12 May 2020 at 08:05 PM
"public health experts"
These folks appear to be expert only at guaranteeing thier jobs. The backpedaling, double speak and out right fraud is beyond shameless. I notice we aren't talking about the Georgia death count any longer but St. Travoon of the skittles accolyte. This thing is over but for NYC and the politicians in the democratic death traps being governed by fools. Ordering infected elderly patients back to nursing homes, which experts advised that to Cuomo and Whitmer? Suicide, drug overdoses, those deaths don't count?

"Biden? Pelosi? Juan Williams? Northam? You want them?" No, nor Whitmer nor Newsom. If we get them I won't be around much longer than your doggies and I'm much younger than you and SWMBO.

John Merryman , 12 May 2020 at 08:07 PM
I think a big part of the problem is the total lack of any deeper philosophic debate, as part of a normal social functioning. People want answers not truths, so there are plenty of politicians and priests, but philosophy is neutered and left to the back alleys of academia.
We are linear, goal oriented creatures in a cyclical, reciprocal, feedback generated reality, in which there is this organic interplay between competition and cooperation, as well as public and private functions of society, etc. So when we impose this goal oriented model on those facts of life, we end up with a bunch of absolutist ideologs running the world and using the other side as boogymen to rally their cultists. Rather than appreciating such interplay is fundamental to life.
When we have such a fundamentally primitive understanding of how reality functions, having nuanced discussion of life and death issues is not possible.
Eric Newhill , 12 May 2020 at 08:19 PM
The people won't stand for Fausti's nonsense, nor the Democrats'. They will just open their businesses and local governments - especially county level - will allow it. Already happening in PA. Heck even some states are doing it. As counties and states open up, the populations of those that do not will become increasingly agitated and begin to break "the rules". There will be a ripple effect. The cowards and social media magnates and leftists will call them names and wave fingers at them, but the people won't care. Actually they will continue to open with even more fervor just to give give these "elites" the finger.

As always, the socialist/dictator class ignores human nature and believes people can be programmed. As always, they are wrong. People are no longer buying the models and case rates BS, etc. that the "scientists" put out there. Geekery ain't cutting it any more.

Hopefully, this will all occur peacefully with the socialists/dictators just throwing up their hands. If they double down, then the tree of liberty gets watered. Probably the outcome that needs to happen, terrible as it is. Right now Pelosi is trying to develop a plan to bribe the people into staying locked down and vote democrat. It will fail.

Jack , 12 May 2020 at 06:46 PM
Sir,

LA County apparently wants to extend the lockdown by another 3 months. This is just insane!

Old guys like me could hang out more at the ranch but the youth need to be out and about.

There's no perfect risk-free scenario as you point out. Unfortunately we have cultivated a nanny state of big government and big business that are quite rapacious in reality. Has any state actually passed legislation to enforce lockdowns? These are just executive orders at the state and local levels. It would appear that these orders suspends the constitution? I'm surprised no one has yet challenged these orders in state and federal courts.

We sure are an afraid lot. What happened to the derring-do?

james , 12 May 2020 at 06:55 PM
maybe they could do a special ufc - wrestling type show with paul and fauci.. the american public seem very keen on this sort of thing and would eat it up..

can someone explain how herd immunity works?? i've never heard of people being referred to as a herd... i missed that in school..

Keith Harbaugh , 12 May 2020 at 07:04 PM
BTW, notice how Ukraine has vanished from the national conversation.
Who needs to keep yapping about how Trump let down (one faction in) Ukraine when they can blame him for the economic calamity which, in point of fact, is due to the vast overreaction that has been pushed by the media and Dem politicians.
For example, failing to point out that New York has unique demographics, which directly and conclusively led to its high hospitalization and fatality rate.
turcopolier , 12 May 2020 at 07:21 PM
james

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity Idiot

Keith Harbaugh , 12 May 2020 at 08:02 PM
A key point the media doesn't adequately emphasize, IMO, is the sharpness of the dependency on age.
In Virginia, there have been, to date, roughly 900 deaths attributed to the virus.
Of those deaths, over half were to people over 80.
Roughly one quarter were people in their 70s.
About 15% were people on their 60s.
Less than 10% were people under 60.
There were ZERO deaths of people under 20.

To see a bar chart which shows the exact numbers, visit
https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/
Then click on "Demographics", then set "Select Measure" to "Deaths".

Fred , 12 May 2020 at 08:05 PM
"public health experts"
These folks appear to be expert only at guaranteeing thier jobs. The backpedaling, double speak and out right fraud is beyond shameless. I notice we aren't talking about the Georgia death count any longer but St. Travoon of the skittles accolyte. This thing is over but for NYC and the politicians in the democratic death traps being governed by fools. Ordering infected elderly patients back to nursing homes, which experts advised that to Cuomo and Whitmer? Suicide, drug overdoses, those deaths don't count?

"Biden? Pelosi? Juan Williams? Northam? You want them?" No, nor Whitmer nor Newsom. If we get them I won't be around much longer than your doggies and I'm much younger than you and SWMBO.

John Merryman , 12 May 2020 at 08:07 PM
I think a big part of the problem is the total lack of any deeper philosophic debate, as part of a normal social functioning. People want answers not truths, so there are plenty of politicians and priests, but philosophy is neutered and left to the back alleys of academia.
We are linear, goal oriented creatures in a cyclical, reciprocal, feedback generated reality, in which there is this organic interplay between competition and cooperation, as well as public and private functions of society, etc. So when we impose this goal oriented model on those facts of life, we end up with a bunch of absolutist ideologs running the world and using the other side as boogymen to rally their cultists. Rather than appreciating such interplay is fundamental to life.
When we have such a fundamentally primitive understanding of how reality functions, having nuanced discussion of life and death issues is not possible.
Eric Newhill , 12 May 2020 at 08:19 PM
The people won't stand for Fausti's nonsense, nor the Democrats'. They will just open their businesses and local governments - especially county level - will allow it. Already happening in PA. Heck even some states are doing it. As counties and states open up, the populations of those that do not will become increasingly agitated and begin to break "the rules". There will be a ripple effect. The cowards and social media magnates and leftists will call them names and wave fingers at them, but the people won't care. Actually they will continue to open with even more fervor just to give give these "elites" the finger.

As always, the socialist/dictator class ignores human nature and believes people can be programmed. As always, they are wrong. People are no longer buying the models and case rates BS, etc. that the "scientists" put out there. Geekery ain't cutting it any more.

Hopefully, this will all occur peacefully with the socialists/dictators just throwing up their hands. If they double down, then the tree of liberty gets watered. Probably the outcome that needs to happen, terrible as it is. Right now Pelosi is trying to develop a plan to bribe the people into staying locked down and vote democrat. It will fail.

[May 12, 2020] We need a radically different model to tackle the COVID-19 crisis By James K. Galbraith Defend Democracy Press

May 12, 2020 | www.defenddemocracy.press

We need a radically different model to tackle the COVID-19 crisis | By James K. Galbraith 12/05/2020

The Current Situation in the United States: May 2020
James K. Galbraith

Two weeks ago week the US death toll from Covid-19 exceeded that of US soldiers in Vietnam, 1955-1974. On May 1 the one-day toll reached a new high, greater than that in New York City on September 11, 2001. Meanwhile economic output has collapsed and over thirty million Americans had filed unemployment claims as of April 30, 2020. On the public health front, testing remains inadequate, contact tracing non-existent, treatment options appear stalled and millions remain uninsured. The federal bailouts have worked well in one way only: to spur a modest revival of stocks and to forestall massive defaults on bonds.

The failures of the public health system border on sabotage. Test kits were available from the WHO in January; the US elected not to use them. The first production of tests from the CDC was botched. Testing was deliberately limited as community transmission grew, so that the virus escaped from early containment that might have been possible. Lockdowns and quarantines came late, were poorly organized and weakly enforced. Supplies of PPE were not allocated to hospitals and health care providers according to need; the Defense Production Act was not deployed in timely and effective manner to ramp up home production; no effective federal system to manage international medical supply chains exists to this day. While some firms have no doubt done their best, reports of profiteering and scams are rampant.

The push to reopen the economy is a further mark of failure. As food supply workers were not properly protected, unacceptable levels of sickness and workplace contamination have occurred, notably in meat. Food banks are in crisis, while milk, eggs and other perishables are wasted. State governments facing fiscal catastrophe press businesses to reopen on terms that cannot be profitable, because capacity is constrained for health reasons. The openings are calculated to force workers off of unemployment insurance, which can be revoked if they decline to return to risky jobs. Many smaller businesses are deciding not to reopen; they will face bankruptcy instead and disappear. Although evictions and foreclosures are technically deferred, many landlords have ignored this and in any event rent, mortgages, utility bills and other debts continue to accrue.

Models of the pandemic now openly predict infections rising further as lockdowns are relaxed, to the point of testing the capacity of health care systems even in parts of the country not yet severely affected. Whether this will happen or not is not yet clear; the public may continue, as a general rule, to practice safe contact behavior, and if the transmission rates hold below 1, as they presently are estimated to be in almost all of the American states , the pandemic may continue to decline. But if the models are borne out, death rates will rise by many multiples of their current values. These events are projected to lead to further lock-downs on a rolling basis, until such time as a vaccine or therapy is available. There is no guarantee of either.

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Even if the pandemic is now contained the economy will not revert to "normal." The United States is a premier producer of energy, aerospace, advanced information technologies and financial services. It assembles many million automobiles, appliances and other consumer durable goods every year. The oil sector has suffered a price collapse and borders now on mass bankruptcy; when fracking wells are capped they will sand up and become very costly to reopen, so the US energy-based economic expansion is over. Airplanes are lined up in parking spaces; no new civilian passenger airliners will be needed indefinitely. Households who are either unemployed or working from home (and therefore not commuting) or that face deferred rent and mortgages will not soon be in the market for new cars; in any event the old ones will last longer as they are being driven much less. As office buildings remain empty, new ones will not be built. Similarly for retail stores, already driven to the wall by on-line ordering and deliveries. The banking sector is on the hook for energy loans gone bad, and for household debts, and for corporate loans that will be at risk once the bailout money runs low. The debts built up during the pandemic will be defaulted in many cases, ruining credit for the households affected. All of which foretells a long depression even under the best foreseeable public health conditions. A cycle of infections and lock-downs will make all of this that much worse.

There is an illusion about, that the recent prosperity can be revived by "reopening." But many industries – aircraft, airlines, hotels, automobiles, appliances, commercial construction, energy – will definitely shrink, whatever happens now and no matter how much money they receive. The bailouts were a measure predicated on the idea that these industries were facing just a temporary interruption. But it is difficult to see how bankruptcies and liquidations can be avoided if there is no revival in the demand for product. And large-scale production relies on interlinked supply-chains, so that if a single major producer (for example one of the majors in the automotive sector) fails, there is a risk of cascading liquidations (for example in auto parts), making operations difficult – perhaps impossible – for the survivors. In these industries the supply chains and subcontractors are much larger in the aggregate than the assembly operations of the final production firm.

Higher education, a large sector in America, faces a crisis of high costs, collapsing enrollments and the actual alternative of cheap on-line instruction in many fields. This was already in the works for demographic reasons, and is now being accelerated by the loss of household wealth. Health care, ten times larger, also faces financial difficulties as millions are losing their insurance and – for the moment anyway – as accidents, other infectious diseases and such are down, depriving doctors and hospitals of reimbursements. Service industries from restaurants to retailers cannot function profitably at one-quarter of capacity; bars, nightclubs, and most sporting venues cannot reopen at all.

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Federal decision-making has failed at every level. In the executive branch, it has been at best a complex of incompetence, denial, and political motivation. At worst, decisions were taken and are still being taken in full knowledge of the projected death rates and potential for private profiteering, both in the medical sector and in the larger financial economy. It is known that some private speculators made over three hundred billion dollars shorting the stock market before the February collapse, and that some Members of Congress sold their holdings based on information provided in intelligence briefings. Congressional action has been slow, marred by politics, lobbies, regional rivalries, poor judgment and a misdiagnosis of the economic issues, as Congress reached for legislative models used in past business downturns, especially the crisis of 2007-2009, which had no quarantine or other public health component.

The specific policies implemented were plagued by problems. To calculate payments under the first CARES Act, the IRS had to use filings from tax year 2018, and also ran into printing bottlenecks for paper checks that had to be mailed to those without direct deposit. Unemployment insurance benefits were made relatively generous, and the state unemployment insurance web-sites could not handle the crush, so they crashed, leaving many without the ability to access the program. Instead of simple wage replacement (which would have protected health insurance and union membership) the Small Business Administration issued rules that appeared unusable for many firms, banks gave preference to favored clients, and in the first round also the money soon ran out. In short, the effort to save the economy by pouring money into it through conventional channels was inadequate, ill-considered, inefficient, and in some respects corrupt. The best that may be said is that it was much better than doing nothing at all.

As events progress, the usual pattern of property sales and purchases cannot proceed. So property values will collapse, leaving millions of homeowners without equity; as this happens, mass foreclosures and property seizures are inevitable under the present legal rules. Predatory private investors will buy distressed assets at firesale prices and the American population will revert, largely to renter status. For those with means, private tutors and doctors will remain available; the others will manage as they can. Needless to say, depression, despair, drug abuse and suicide will prevail.

Or maybe they won't . In the wake of the Great Financial Crisis, it was possible – barely possible, but possible – to shift the blame from the bankers to the victims, from those who built a massively fraudulent financial system to those who took out the loans that they could not repay. But there was no viral element, no public health trigger, to that crisis. This one is different. Every development described above is a consequence, direct or indirect, of the coronavirus. Those who were laid off, and who went home, and who broke the transmission of the disease, did their part, just as health-care professionals and grocery clerks did theirs. Their legal case for relief remains weak. But the moral case is strong and the economic case is beyond dispute. Even the incumbent Treasury Secretary, Steven Mnuchin, a foreclosure-predator of the first water after 2008, has stated that the economic crisis "is no fault of American business, it is no fault of American workers, it is the fault of a virus." This is true but it does not mean that things will return to the past if the virus can be made to go away.

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To move forward, first of all, debts incurred before and during the pandemic will have to be written down. The energy sector and transport sectors will have to be rebuilt, based far more on renewables and sources other than oil. A large share of basic industries – especially in the health sector – will have to be repatriated so that basic sufficiency exists in this country. Millions of people will be needed to monitor and support public health; jobs for them must be organized and funded by the government. State and local governments will have to be federally-funded, in substantial part, to provide basic public services. New and sustainable housing must be built, in new community structures. High speed broadband must be provided to all. A new financing model – cooperative, with public support – will be required to re-establish small businesses. Local, decentralized cultural and sporting venues will have to replace mass-based experiences; these too will require cooperative structures and public support. In short, the only way out, remotely acceptable to the population at large, will require a comprehensive restructuring of the economy on a cooperative foundation, with the government stepping up to guaranteed funding, employment, and public investments.

Disaster capitalism is being tried, and the worst case is now the likely case. But there is a scale beyond which disaster capitalism cannot go. At a certain point, the carnage becomes too great to neglect, impossible to avoid and lethal to overlook. At a certain point, ordinary people will stand up and refuse to be bullied any more. That point has not quite arrived; we are still in the mind-set of "getting back to normal," even as the pandemic continues. The contradiction between normality and public health is on people's minds; the impossibility of returning to the previous abnormal-normal has not yet settled in. It will, in due course. At that point, the question of alternatives will have to be faced.

[May 12, 2020] One month later the first pacient was detected in Seatle Fauci was still proclaiming in public that the evil virus was less of a problem than the annual influenza. Someplace there is a video of Fauci saying this, right around Feb 15.

May 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Trailer Trash , May 12 2020 14:58 utc | 113

>Patient #1 was a 35 year old male who presented at a Seattle (WA) clinic on Jan 15, 2020

A month later Fauci was still proclaiming in public that the evil virus was less of a problem than the annual influenza. Someplace there is a video of Fauci saying this, right around Feb 15.

I can not understand how even complete incompetents manage to make exactly the wrong decision at every opportunity. In the UK there was a policy to send elderly patients, both suspected and known to have the virus, to care homes, without even warning the care home people. Supposedly it was to make room for corona patients who were even sicker than the ones going into care homes. This is straight-up criminal negligence.

Here are sordid details from the New York Post :


The governor -- who himself has described nursing homes as a "feeding frenzy'' for the deadly coronavirus -- said that the facilities can't challenge a state regulation forcing them to admit patients with the contagion .

The CEO of a hard-hit Brooklyn nursing home, where 55 patients have died from the coronavirus, told The Post last week that he'd been warning state Health Department officials for weeks he had staffing and equipment issues -- yet received little help.

"There is no way for us to prevent the spread under these conditions,'' the head of the Cobble Hill Health Center, Donny Tuchman, wrote in an e-mail to the department on April 8.

He said he asked to move some patients to the makeshift wards at Manhattan's Javits Center and aboard the city-docked USNS Comfort amid the pandemic, only to be told those two spots were receiving only patients from hospitals.

"I made specific requests to transfer patients, and it didn't happen,'' Tuchman told The Post. "There weren't options."

Deliberate policy decisions have killed and continue to kill people. That is perfectly clear, even while the origins of the virus and the intent of decisions are hiding in the muck. Will relatives of the dead just accept this as "an act of god", or will they come to understand these events as "acts of dear leaders"?

For two months Dear Leaders have claimed that destroying the economy, house arrest, and no care home visitors are for the express purpose of protecting ... care home residents. But most of the dead were care home residents, along with plenty of their care workers.

Yes it sounds melodramatic but I keep seeing black-and-white images of people being herded into shower rooms in order to get showered with Zyklon B. Please tell me why we are not witnessing state-sanctioned murder.

[May 12, 2020] 'I don't think you are the end-all' Rand Paul calls out Fauci over Covid-19 policy based 'one wrong prediction after another'

Notable quotes:
"... Paul, who also has a medical degree, called for "a little bit of humility in our belief that we know what's best for our economy," questioning Fauci's support for a prolonged economic shutdown during a Senate hearing on the government's coronavirus response on Tuesday. ..."
"... With all due respect I don't think you're the end-all, I don't think you're the one person who gets to make a decision. ..."
"... "I hope that people who are predicting doom and gloom and saying oh we can't do this there's going to be a surge will admit they're wrong if there isn't a surge," the senator continued, calling for the Trump administration to listen to experts who disagreed with the "doom and gloom" predictions of Fauci and his ilk. ..."
"... Paul added that continuing the lockdown would widen the class divide, explaining that if children are kept out of school for months on end, then "the poor and underprivileged kids who don't have a parent that's able to teach them at home aren't going to be able to learn for a full year." He also said that the catastrophic narrative painting Covid-19 as a killer necessitating mass shutdowns had gotten started with "wrong prediction after wrong prediction," starting with the British scientist Neil Ferguson's apocalyptic forecasts – even as the British scientist had been meeting secretly with his mistress in violation of the lockdown he'd been championing. ..."
May 12, 2020 | www.rt.com

Republican Senator Rand Paul has challenged National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director Dr Anthony Fauci on the nation's Covid-19 policy, suggesting the US is waiting too long to reopen. Paul, who also has a medical degree, called for "a little bit of humility in our belief that we know what's best for our economy," questioning Fauci's support for a prolonged economic shutdown during a Senate hearing on the government's coronavirus response on Tuesday.

Sen. Paul argues school decisions should be made district by district, tells Dr. Fauci: "I don't think you're the end all."Fauci: "I'm a scientist... I think we better be careful if we are not cavalier in thinking that children are completely immune to the deleterious effects." pic.twitter.com/dIjXwkM5AU

-- NBC News (@NBCNews) May 12, 2020

With all due respect I don't think you're the end-all, I don't think you're the one person who gets to make a decision.

"I hope that people who are predicting doom and gloom and saying oh we can't do this there's going to be a surge will admit they're wrong if there isn't a surge," the senator continued, calling for the Trump administration to listen to experts who disagreed with the "doom and gloom" predictions of Fauci and his ilk.

" In rural states, we never really reached any sort of pandemic levels in Kentucky and other states ," Paul pointed out, even as he acknowledged that " New England " had been hit hard by the virus. " We have less deaths in Kentucky than we have in an average flu season. "

Antibody tests show Ohio had first Covid-19 cases as early as JANUARY – state health director

" We don't know everything about this virus ," Fauci countered, challenging that children in some parts of the country were turning up with " a very strange inflammatory syndrome " similar to Kawasaki syndrome.

" You're right in the numbers that children do much much better .but I am very careful, and hopefully humble, in knowing that I don't know everything about this disease, and that's why I'm very reserved in making broad predictions ," Fauci continued.

Paul added that continuing the lockdown would widen the class divide, explaining that if children are kept out of school for months on end, then "the poor and underprivileged kids who don't have a parent that's able to teach them at home aren't going to be able to learn for a full year." He also said that the catastrophic narrative painting Covid-19 as a killer necessitating mass shutdowns had gotten started with "wrong prediction after wrong prediction," starting with the British scientist Neil Ferguson's apocalyptic forecasts – even as the British scientist had been meeting secretly with his mistress in violation of the lockdown he'd been championing.

Fauci's supporters took to social media to slam his opponent, noting that Paul had gone to the Senate gym while infected with the coronavirus and perhaps infected others. They also cited high numbers of Covid-19 cases in Paul's home county of Warren County, Kentucky.

Watching Republicans cheer on Rand Paul "taking on" Dr. Fauci almost perfectly characterizes the anti-intellectual, anti-reason, anti-fact, and frankly degenerate state of the Republican Party.

-- Devin Duke (@sirDukeDevin) May 12, 2020

Warren County, Kentucky – where Rand Paul lives – has more COVID-19 cases per capita than 51 of the 67 counties in New England states.Senator Paul is wrong and the ignorant message he is peddling is dangerous. There is no special immunity to this virus based on where you live. https://t.co/l9u5RBYR2J

-- Rep. Don Beyer (@RepDonBeyer) May 12, 2020

Meanwhile, the senator's backers took the exact same exchange as proof that Paul had " destroyed " Fauci.

Rand Paul saves the day! Calls out the "experts" and says you are not the "end all" to make all decisions. GAME, SET, MATCH.

-- Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) May 12, 2020

Rand Paul absolutely destroys Dr. Fraudci. "I don't think you're the end all. I don't think you're the one person who gets to make the decision." pic.twitter.com/nvljuGAy5u

-- LivePDDave 🇺🇸 🚨 🥊 (@LivePDDave1) May 12, 2020

Federal 'social distancing' guidelines were lifted at the end of April, but hotspots like New York and California have extended their economic shutdowns as lesser-hit states have begun to relax restrictions.

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[May 12, 2020] You re Not The End All Rand Paul Slams Fauci In Heated Exchange Over Lockdowns

Notable quotes:
"... X22 Report Fauci's Connections To Wuhan Ready To Be Exposed - Episode 2171c ..."
"... I don't remember Fauci ever apologizing his remarks concerning - you don't need to worry, you don't need masks - masks are bad, the virus can't be spread easily, his models predicting millions would die in the US. ..."
May 12, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

"The history of this when we look back will be wrong prediction after wrong prediction after wrong prediction... As much as I respect you, Dr. Fauci, I don't think you're the end all, I don't think you're the one person that gets to make a decision," said Paul - who added that we need to "observe with an open eye what happened in Sweden, where the kids kept going to school."

"The mortality per capita in Sweden is actually less than France, less than Italy, less than Spain, less than Belgium, less than the Netherlands, about the same as Switzerland. But basically I don't think there's anybody arguing that what happened in Sweden is an unacceptable result. I think people are intrigued by it, and we should be."

"I don't think any of us are certain when we do all these modelings - there have been more people wrong with modeling than right. We're opening up a lot of economies around the US, and I hope that people who are predicting doom and gloom and saying 'oh, we can't do this, there's going to be a surge' - will admit when there isn't a surge."

Watch:

Sen. Rand Paul:

"The history of this when we look back will be wrong prediction after wrong prediction after wrong prediction... As much as I respect you, Dr. Fauci, I don't think you're the end all, I don't think you're the one person that gets to make a decision." pic.twitter.com/SP9T638y2B

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) May 12, 2020

Fauci responded, (25 seconds in below), saying "Sen. Paul, I have never made myself out to be the end-all & only voice of this. I'm a scientist, a physician, and a public health official."

He then offered a 'but, the children!' argument - latching onto Paul's comment that we don't know everything about the virus, and that "we really better be very careful, particularly when it comes to children."

"Because the more and more we learn - we're seeing things about what this virus can do that we didn't see from the studies in China. Or in Europe. For example, right now children presenting with COVID-19 who actually have a very strange inflammatory symdrome, very similar to Kawasaki syndrome. I think we better be careful that we are not cavalier in thinking that children are not immune to the deleterious effects.

"I never made myself to be out the end all. I’m a scientist, a physician, and a public health official. I give advice according to the best scientific evidence. "

Dr. Fauci responds to @RandPaul pic.twitter.com/gxOWB9BTQ4

— Washington Examiner (@dcexaminer) May 12, 2020

I have not promoted the #FireFauci movement. I've defended him. But now...

Fauci responded to a factual-based inquiry by @RandPaul w/an egregious allusion to some mystery Kawasaki-like disease & tripled-down on his aversion to a 2020-21 school session.

I'm done.#FIREFAUCI

— Justin Hart (@justin_hart) May 12, 2020

mikesap, 3 minutes ago

Why isn't anyone asking directly about the 'gain of function' studies that NIH was doing on the US prior to outsourcing the experiments to Wuhan and illegally funding it via the NIH....why is there a need to lockdown 300m people for a relative small number of deaths which in turn are focused on the elderly with prior illnesses...what is the relationship betwe3n the CDC and the European CDC... does the European CDC pay European hospitals for every diagnosis and every ventilator use.... its all BS...hopefully people are beginning to smell a rat and through these bums out....

Al Agent, 3 minutes ago

True. Fauci wasn't elected to make policy; in fact, he wasn't elected at all! He was employed to advise on what happens under different scenarios. Trump's economic advisors weren't elected to make policy; in fact, they weren't elected at all! They are employed to advise on what happens under different scenarios.

Congress and The President decide on policy. They were elected to do that.

Templar X, 16 minutes ago

There will never be a vaccine for COVID-19 which is safe, effective, and worthwhile.

The fastest a vaccine has ever been developed in the past was four years after the first appearance of a new infectious disease.

Four years from now people will either have herd immunity or they will be dead.

Within a year or two, the COVID-19 virus will likely mutate itself to death, or it will weaken and become no worse than a regular flu virus.

COVID-19 is, apparently, less harmful to people under 65 years of age and those with no underlying health conditions, which, of course, is also true of the common flu.

theWHTMANN, 32 minutes ago

How come no one asks Fauci straight to his face regarding all the deaths that will happen because of the lockdown (missed surgeries, suicide, famine, et al.). What is this con man's response? He doesn't care? What if non-COVID deaths because of the lockdown are 3x or 4x the COVID deaths? What then? Does anyone ask this fool Fauci whether he will take responsibility for anything?

mrpc, 30 minutes ago

Like Fauci says himself, in the interview, he gives advice. He doesn't make the decisions.

sun tzu, 34 minutes ago (Edited)

Where's the carnage in Georgia, Florida, Texas, and South Carolina from reopening? I see no massive surge in the hospitals or deaths. The only carnage I see is in the nursing homes in New York, New Jersey, and Massachusetts all states run by Democrats

PerilouseTimes, 8 minutes ago

I made an appointment for a procedure this week and had to go in for covid pretesting today. It was my second test in three months. I worked with and personally interacted with, people that tested positive for covid in mid March. I was unusually sick in January and have talked to many others that was strange sick in January as well. After speaking with the health professionals and the people I know in and around this, I am convinced that this is all a load of ****. I had covid in Jan, and so did many of the others I worked with. The nurse I just talked to said to me that her and her family along with many people that she is testing was convinced that they had it between Dec. and Feb. I'm in GA and it is long past time to get this show on the road.

Roger Casement, 37 minutes ago

X22 Report Fauci's Connections To Wuhan Ready To Be Exposed - Episode 2171c

NumbNuts, 39 minutes ago

Fauci is dangerous:

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/05/10/is-there-a-vaccine-for-coronavirus.aspx

Those experiments were going on in the United States until 2014. They were Dr. Anthony Fauci's projects. President Obama ordered that to stop because they had a lot of lab escape problems in 2014 from three different labs

Instead of stopping as he was ordered, Fauci moved those operations to the Wuhan lab in China and continued to do those experiments right up until the time that the coronavirus [pandemic occurred]. In fact, [infectious disease expert] Ian Lipkin was doing those experiments over there when [COVID-19] exploded. And I'll tell you exactly what happened because it's very suspicious."

---ZerooreZ---, 56 minutes ago

I am genuinely impressed with the American spirit, that everything covid related has happened at double the speed in the USA compared to the UK - you were the last to get this thing and seem to be the first to open back up (well done!). I guess because you guys have lived with guns your whole lives, you are braver than the average UK citizen who literally have been the most obedient and most scared bunch I have experienced. People literally throw themselves off the pavements into the road to avoid someone walking the other way, they would rather be

sun tzu, 1 hour ago

Epidemic indeed

ToWo, 1 hour ago

I don't remember Fauci ever apologizing his remarks concerning - you don't need to worry, you don't need masks - masks are bad, the virus can't be spread easily, his models predicting millions would die in the US.

[May 11, 2020] Boomerang returned

May 11, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

Newsweek reveals that as recently as last year, the US funded scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in 'gain of function' research on bat coronaviruses.

The source of that funding? The National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Disease, headed by.....(drumroll please)....Dr Anthony Fauci, lead medical expert for America's Covid-19 task force.

[May 11, 2020] Angry Bear " Fauci No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab

May 11, 2020 | angrybearblog.com
  1. likbez , May 11, 2020 1:53 am

    run75441

    I would be wary of Fauci.

    It looks like it was Fauci who financed Wuhan lab continuation of very dangerous "gain of function" experiments started at UNC Dr. Baric lab.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/27/anthony-fauci-should-explain-37-million-wuhan-labo/

    President Donald Trump's legal counsel, Rudy Giuliani, in a recent chat on "The Cats Roundtable" on New York AM 970 radio, suggested a good U.S. attorney general move about now would be to investigate key members of the past Barack Obama administration on the Wuhan, China, laboratory, to see what they knew and when they knew it.

    And then he mentioned Dr. Anthony Fauci specifically.

    And then he accused the prior Team Obama of sending $3.7 million to the lab in 2014 -- at a time when that same Team Obama had banned the funding of any lab that was involved in virus experimentation.

    And then he named Fauci as the guy who gave the money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    Ouch. Politically speaking, the perception of one of this administration's loudest voices on the coronavirus front -- the one calling for shutdowns and shut-ins and contact tracing-slash-government-tracking of American citizens -- well, it doesn't look good to have him tied financially to Wuhan.

    Giuliani, as RedState noted, said this:

    "Back in 2014, the Obama administration prohibited the U.S. from giving money to any laboratory, including in the U.S., that was fooling around with these viruses. Prohibited. Despite that, Dr. Fauci gave $3.7 million to the Wuhan laboratory.

    And then even after the State Department issued reports about how unsafe that laboratory was, and how suspicious they were in the way they were developing a virus that could be transmitted to humans, we never pulled that money."

    Giuliani said if he were attorney general, he'd open an investigation.

[May 10, 2020] Do Masks and Respirators Prevent Viral Respiratory Illnesses

Something strange here: virions do not travel as single units. They travel "en mass" within water droplets. They also prevent spread of aerosol from sick people. So the professor is barking on a wrong tree.
May 10, 2020 | dissidentvoice.org

Moreover single virion is so small that it will be affected by Brownian movement which make it impossible for it to travel in a given direction at all -- it will he chaotic movement. So this physics professor looks like very weak in physics

Interview with Professor Denis Rancourt

by Kim Petersen / May 8th, 2020

A health professional told me back in March that face masks were ineffective but that respirators (the N95) were. Because of the source, I thought there must be validity to this. However, it seemed counterintuitive. I reasoned that there would be differentials between using any type of mask versus no mask because no mask usage would allow aerosols to penetrate unabated, whereas a mask should capture much of the aerosol and reduce risk of spread to others and presumably should also function to mitigate breathing in viral-laden droplets. Because of the greater density of respirator material, the prophylactic would be reasoned to be greater.

However, what I had not considered was how extremely small the virion was in relation to the porosity of the material in the masks and respirators. I also had not looked at the scientific literature on the subject until now.

Denis Rancourt, an eminent physics professor , former anarchist, and author, examined the scientific evidence for using face masks and respirators as preventative of contracting respiratory influenza-like disease, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by minuscule droplets.

What I have noticed is that Rancourt is wedded to the evidence, and he is unafraid to make known his conclusion even though it goes against the mainstream consensus. His article, " Masks Don't Work: A review of science relevant to COVID-19 social policy ," is Rancourt at his iconoclastic finest. He concludes,

No RCT [randomized control trial] study with verified outcome shows a benefit for HCW [health care workers] or community members in households to wearing a mask or respirator. There is no such study. There are no exceptions.

The virions are super tiny, tinier than the pores in the respirators. Rancourt writes,

if anything gets through (and it always does, irrespective of the mask), then you are going to be infected. Masks cannot possibly work. It is not surprising, therefore, that no bias-free study has ever found a benefit from wearing a mask or respirator in this application.

Rancourt's article is fascinating and anyone curious abut the efficacy of masks should read it.

*****

Kim Petersen : Recently, American vice-president Mike Pence was criticized for walking around the Mayo clinic accompanied by mask-wearing staff although he did not wear a mask. He excused his refusal to don a mask based on the frequent testing he undergoes, so presumably he would not be a danger to others. Given what the science reveals on mask wearing, how do you view the reaction to Pence's refusal to wear a mask?

Denis Rancourt : In my article " Masks Don't Work: A review of science relevant to COVID-19 social policy ", I show that there have been many randomized controlled trials (RCTs) and meta-analyses of RCTs, which were designed to detect any benefit from wearing a mask, in terms of reducing the risk of being infected by a viral respiratory disease.

In the many studies, in which the known bias of self-reporting is eliminated by using laboratory-confirmed infection detection, no statistically meaningful advantage is ever found, in either health-care or community settings, with either surgical masks or N95 respirators. No study, and there have been many, has been able to establish any advantage of wearing a mask or respirator, with viral respiratory diseases.

This means that, even in controlled professional health-care settings, any benefit is too small to be detected by science, and that other factors must be overwhelmingly more important.

Regarding all viral respiratory diseases -- which are both known to be transmitted by small aerosol particles (i.e., "droplets" of less than a few microns in diameter) and known to be highly infectious in terms of the so-called minimum-infective-dose (i.e., the number of virions that will likely be sufficient to cause illness or detectable infection) -- in plain language, this means "masks don't work". (A "virion" is a single virus unit, the RNA and its shell.)

Therefore, any societal debate about the virtue or responsibility of wearing a mask to reduce the risk of infection, whether it involves Pence or anyone else, is occurring in a science vacuum. It is a political and psychological debate, not one that is science-based.

Likewise, no unbiased RCT has ever shown any advantage for a confirmed-infected person to be less likely to transmit a viral-respiratory-disease infection to susceptible (i.e., not immune) persons if the infected person wears a mask.

Studies that show that cough and sneeze droplets are physically intercepted by masks are irrelevant in this regard, because they do not represent the reality of actual person to person transmission, nor do they measure actual transmission.

In my article, which has been read more than 70 K times on Research Gate, I also review what is known about the physics and biology of transmission of this class of diseases. I argue that, on this basis, one should not expect masks to work. Likewise, if masks cannot stop inward transmission (into the lung), then, by the same physics, they cannot stop outward transmission.

However, it is important to distinguish a RCT that evaluates risk of actual person-to-person transmission of confirmed infection, as one class of study, and the necessarily simplistic arguments based on hypothetical scenarios using physics and biology. And the "masks intercept droplets" studies are useless in the relevant context. Masks intended to stop a surgeon's spit from impacting an incision area are a completely different question.

Coming back to Pence, a face mask is a powerful psychological symbol of submission (to both the invisible disease and any State policy directives), such that it is understandable that many political leaders would not want to wear masks in front of media cameras.

KP : You write that there has been no randomized controlled trial that shows a benefit for anyone (doctors, nurses, regular folks, et al.) wearing a mask or respirator. The reason proffered is because the mask/respirator material is too porous for virion particles. The N95 respirator blocks at least 95 percent of very small (0.3 μm) test particles, but the virion particles (from 0.06 μm to 0.14 μm) (See Na Zhu et al., " A Novel Coronavirus from Patients with Pneumonia in China ," 20 February 2020, NEJM, 382:727-733.) can pass through.

I am trying to visualize this on a larger scale. If I kick a soccer ball at a chain-link fence, all soccer balls will be blocked. But if I throw a handful of sand at the chain-link fence, almost all grains of sand will pass through. Is this an apt analogy for the mask and the virion?

DR : The many RCTs show no statistically valid benefit from wearing a mask or N95 respirator, and show no differences in RCT comparisons between surgical masks and N95 respirators, regarding risk of infection from this class of diseases. That is a separate question from any hypothetical mechanistic explanation as to why any benefit from wearing a mask would be so small as to be undetected. In other words, that masks don't work must be discerned from the question of why masks don't work. The former is a scientific outcome of the studies, irrespective of what we believe or infer about the latter.

Nonetheless, regarding a discussion of the hypothetical mechanisms, one can say the following things:

Thus, it is not difficult to conclude that mask and respirators should not work, even leaving out the complex particle-mask-material interactions that can occur, mask aging and wear considerations, and so on.

KP : You cite possible harm from dictates requiring the wearing of masks. Could you elaborate?

DR : My answer is in two parts. First, there is potential medical harm to the individual from the wearing of a mask. Second, there is societal and psychological harm from being forced to wear a mask in public.

In one large RCT in Japanese health centers, health-care workers who wore respirators suffered significantly more headaches than the cohort of workers who did not wear respirators. This was a statistically significant outcome. Furthermore, professional health-care workers self-report significant discomfort from wearing respirators, and therefore often adjust them or remove them, contrary to protocol. If healthcare workers, in circumstances in which there is no scientific basis for wearing respirators, suffer headaches and discomfort, then this can only negatively impact the intended health care.

More broadly, the potential health hazards of population-scale extended personal mask use have not been studied. Potential health hazards include such factors as:

Such factors have not been studied, yet population-scale policies of extended mask-wearing are being implemented.

From a societal perspective, what are the consequences of government coercion ("education" and enforcement) to wear masks in public, given that there is no scientific basis for any benefit from mask wearing, in terms of reducing the risk of being infected by a viral respiratory disease?

How is this not an arbitrary application of power, which directly infringes or denies personal freedom? What are the long-term consequences of habituation to arbitrarily applied violations of personal freedom?

The recent scientific study of Hickey and Davidsen (2019) (" Self-organization and time-stability of social hierarchies ") in my view provides a theoretical foundation that such habituation to arbitrarily applied power is part of a progressive degradation towards an extreme totalitarian state, depending on the degree of authoritarianism (whether contestation is effective) and the degree of violence (magnitude of the penalty for disobeying).

We should rollback arbitrary State powers. I would say: If an individual evaluates or believes that a mask constitutes health or privacy or religious protection in public, then the individual should be free to wear a mask, but how can forcing all individuals to wear masks be justified, beyond government pronouncements? Security cannot be based on arbitrarily forced behaviour of everyone. This is the classic recipe for totalitarian rule.

In fact, the present case of pandemic mask laws or policies is a case where a health pretext and stoked fear are being exploited by governments, in a globalized corporate environment in which there are billions to be made from vaccines and other treatments, and where legal liabilities for the treatments have largely been socialized. Regular vaccination, for diseases that have always been kept in check by the human immune system, are a hard method of creating dependence on the State, involving seasonal violations of bodily integrity, which could become forced.

KP : You point a finger at governments, monopoly media, and institutional propagandists for deciding "to operate in a science vacuum, or select only incomplete science that serves their interests." Which institutional propagandists do you refer to?

DR : The main institutional propagandists here are the arms and legs of the pharma-medical complex, from the WHO and CDC, through the medical schools, to every hospital, research laboratory, clinic, community health center, and doctor's office. The medical establishment is a major network of the high-priests that structure and control modern society. In their book, "health" is a dependence on the health system, not healthy living conditions, contrary to all the science regarding the determinants of public health. I mean, Pharma and medical errors are the third leading cause of death in the Western world, after heart disease and cancer, and that is not a "pandemic"? It is not even on the radar, except in specialized conferences and journals.

As another example of institutional and professional alignment with top-down directives and recommendations, John Ioannidis showed in 2005 (" Why Most Published Research Findings Are False ") that most of the scientific research that finds marginal benefits for expensive and dangerous treatments is incorrect.

In the case of the on-going COVID-19 saga, several top researchers and experts have broken rank, and these professionals have been profiled in a series of three articles in Off-Guardian , for example. Generally, these contrarians who insist on practicing science, have been avoided by the mainstream media, and have had to be featured in the alternative media, and on YouTube. John Ioannidis and Knut Wittkowski are just two of the names that stand out for me.

KP : Given that the conclusion of your review of meta-analyses is accurate, why would so many health care professionals, who presumably have been trained in evidence-based practice, disregard the absence of evidence for the efficacy of masks and respirators?

DR : It is a myth that medicine is an evidence-based practice. This myth is propagated by the medical establishment. It has never been the case in the history of medicine, and it is not the case today. In practice, medicine is whatever the profession can get away with and profit from.

From a political perspective, the public-relations statement about being "science-based" is a propagandist mantra applied in training those initiated into the profession. It is designed to deliver legitimacy in the public's mind and among other professions, and means that the profession will attack, destroy or capture competitors that are not in the profession, such as homeopaths, nutritionists, acupuncturists, chiropractors, psychologists, councillors, life coaches, etc.

There is a large litigation record of this reality. If you litigate against or attempt to discipline an MD or a medical specialist for a practice that is not science based, then you find that the in-court or administrative-tribunal argument will never be about the science itself or whether a scientific basis exists. None of the actual medical researchers will be called as expert witnesses, and they would be seen as irrelevant and thus inadmissible. Instead, a complete defence will be based on whether or not the hired expert witnesses for the defendant will be of the opinion that the impugned practice is within the spectrum of actual practice in the field, irrespective of whether there is a scientific basis. In order to win, you will need to prove that the impugned act or practice is egregiously contrary to what is generally done or officially recommended by a certifying body; again, irrespective of any scientific-basis consideration. "Scientific basis" is given lip service, nothing more.

For example, when a drug or procedure is convincingly and unavoidably proven to be unacceptably harmful after being put into practice, and this harm is reported in the mainstream media, and there is organized public outcry, then the practice is changed but no practitioners are ever found to have been at fault. This means that the practitioners are not responsible to evaluate and establish a scientific basis for their prescriptions and treatments. They are only bound to do what one does in the profession. If mechanical ventilators are the treatment for critical COVID-19 patients, then we kill those patients with those mechanical ventilators until the proverbial shit hits the fan (" New study finds nearly all coronavirus patients put on ventilators died ," The Hill , 23 April 2020).

The history, to this day, of the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders is exhibit-one regarding the extent to which medical practice is distinct from any scientific basis. The said Manual is the pseudo-scientific organizational pretext for a large pharmaceutical project of managing the mind, which relies on heavy-handed "precautionary" prescriptions, made by any army of medical practitioners. For example, see Gary Greenberg (2013) ( The Book of WOE: The DSM and the Unmaking of Psychiatry ).

I could go on for days. Coming back to the masks, medical commentators, like politicians, will say whatever seems advantageous at the time, in terms of propping up their own legitimacy and popularity, and in terms of avoiding public-perception liability. If it is politically risky to recommend masks, then masks are out, and there is no evidence that they work. If it becomes risky to go against masks, then masks are in, and we must all do our part to protect those who are most vulnerable, etc.

KP : Since there is evidence that viruses flourish during dry periods, might the use of a humidifier be a recommended preventative measure during seasons when humidity is low?

DR : There is conclusive evidence that viral respiratory diseases and flu-like diseases predominantly propagate via small aerosol particles, which are stabilized in dry air, and that this is why these diseases are seasonal in mid-latitude regions. The reproduction number, R 0 , can vary four-fold during a season, in accordance with absolute humidity of the atmosphere. This oft-confirmed discovery was initiated with the landmark work of Shaman et al . (2010) .

Closed buildings such as hospitals, residences for the elderly, and day-care centers are proven to have large densities of virion-laden aerosol particles suspended in the air, in the dry season. In addition, air-flow has been shown to play a role regarding transmission, in restaurants and airplanes.

Therefore, it is not unreasonable to examine the use of controlled absolute humidity, and air-flow management in critical facilities housing many persons at risk of severe complications if infected. A high humidity would in-principle draw-out virtually all the aerosol particles, by condensation, particle growth, and gravitational removal. In principle, what was an environment of high-density of aerosol particles, would become an environment of low-density of aerosol particles. Only a true RCT comparative study, with laboratory-confirmed infection determinations, could demonstrate whether such measures can be effective.

Kim Petersen is a former co-editor of the Dissident Voice newsletter. He can be reached at: [email protected] . Twitter: @kimpetersen . Read other articles by Kim .

This article was posted on Friday, May 8th, 2020 at 9:56am and is filed under COVID-19 (coronavirus) , Interview , Science/Technology .

[May 10, 2020] There is an evidence of Dr Fauci's involvement and Gates Foundation vaccine program problems in India and Kenya

May 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

PJB , May 6 2020 20:25 utc | 100

Montreal @67

...The evidence of Dr Fauci's involvement and Gates Foundation vaccine program problems in India and Kenya - both of which are well documented.

I also expressed concern about the patent for bio-monitoring and Bill Gates call for digital passports.

[May 10, 2020] Neil Ferguson was caught admitting that he regards his entire agenda as nothing but a Big Lie

May 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Russ , May 8 2020 19:24 utc | 11

Literally every human concern - every social, psychological, spiritual concern; every political, constitutional, rule-of-law concern; every concern of human and civil rights, civil liberties, human freedom; every concern of children's healthy development; and literally every health concern except for this flu - have been eradicated from the propaganda and evidently from the minds of the police-statists.

Their minds have been scoured clean of literally every thought except for a threadbare fanatical obsession with quantity of life (an obsession they pursue in defiance of all the evidence; their lockdowns don't work even according to their own terms, let alone according to the terms of ecology, biodiversity, sound epidemiology; even their arch-ideologue and high priest Neil Ferguson was caught admitting that he regards his entire agenda as nothing but a Big Lie), and a grossly reductive notion of "opening the economy", which they deploy in order to slander the rapidly increasing number of people who are questioning, criticizing, and rejecting the lockdowns for a vast diversity of reasons I only briefly surveyed above.

The fact that the police-statists are utterly unwilling to meet any of these concerns except for the economic, and are willing to meet that one only in the most reductive, fraudulent, slanderous way which expresses total contempt for the vast numbers of people being economically destroyed beyond any hope of recovery (which is a major purpose and goal of the terror campaign and lockdowns), says it all about the total bankruptcy of their position. As in every other case, police-state authoritarianism has nothing but brute thug force, including in its ideas.

[May 10, 2020] On initial Fauci pushing of Ferguson estimates of COVID-19 mortality. He should have known better as Ferguson track record was already well known

May 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Ken Garoo , May 10 2020 1:21 utc | 44

As an aside, here are the batting averages of Neil 'lockdown for you but not me' Ferguson.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/09/who-controls-the-british-government-response-to-covid-19/

2001 His predictions on the Foot & Mouth Epidemic led to the needless 'voluntary' slaughter of 12 million animals. This in turn led to countless bankruptcies and suicides amongst small farmers. It also helped accelarate the concentration of farming into the hands of Big Farmer.

2002 He predicted 'up to' 50,000 would die from aka variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease aka 'Margaret Thatcher disease'. The total from 1990 to 2017 was actually 178.

2005 He predicted 'up to' 200 million people worldwide would be killed by H5N1 aka 'bird flu'. By 2006, WHO had reported 78 definite fatalities out of 147 eported cases.

2009 He predicted 'up to' 65,000 deaths in the UK from H1N1 aka 'swine flu'. In reality, 457 died from it in the UK.

2020 He predicted 'up to' 500,000 deaths in the UK (and 2.2 million in the US) from Covid-19, used by the UK government to justify the lockdown. UK to date ~31,000 (probably ~85% exhibiting multiple comorbidities and dying 'with' Covid-19 rather than 'from' it). Still it is early days, and ignoring the new death rate has been decreasing since ~ April 15, give it another 4 years and we will be there!

So his score is 0 out of 5. Truly impressive.

The underlying question remains, why did the UK government take his advice when he has been proven grossly wrong time after time?


[May 10, 2020] Was flattening the curve really nessesary or this was just Fauci hallucination?

It looks like Fauci is a political hack. But that not all. He also helped to deepen the current recession.
Notable quotes:
"... Perhaps one way to help see through the professional obfuscation, and identify just exactly how political Dr. Fauci is, would be to: compare and contrast Dr. Fauci under President Obama in September 2009 after 3,000 to 4,000 H1N1 deaths in the USA -vs- Dr. Fauci under President Trump in March 2020 after 200 to 300 COVID-19 deaths. ..."
May 10, 2020 | theconservativetreehouse.com

Perhaps one way to help see through the professional obfuscation, and identify just exactly how political Dr. Fauci is, would be to: compare and contrast Dr. Fauci under President Obama in September 2009 after 3,000 to 4,000 H1N1 deaths in the USA -vs- Dr. Fauci under President Trump in March 2020 after 200 to 300 COVID-19 deaths. WATCH:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hsXEgJqR_vY?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent

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Now, to better absorb the information . According to the CDC final estimate of 2009 U.S. H1N1 cases ( published in 2011 ): from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010 approximately 60.8 million U.S. cases, 274,304 U.S. hospitalizations, and 12,469 U.S. deaths occurred due to H1N1. That's the empirical data.

The concept of "flattening" the virus curve; the presumptive reason for social distancing and shutting down the U.S. economy; is based on a theory to extend the spread of COVID-19 to a lesser incident rate over a longer duration, thereby lessening the burden on the U.S. healthcare system. Hence, 'flatten' the spike in infections.

Put another way: "Flattening" means the same number of people eventually contract the virus, only they do so over a longer period of time, and the healthcare system can treat everyone because the numbers do not rise to level where the system is overloaded. In theory that seems to make sense.

However, no-one is asking: what is the current stress level on the healthcare system right now? Where are we in that capacity? and what is normal capacity level during a high-level flu outbreak? and Where are we when compared against that baseline?

♦ Remember in 2009 there were over 61 million cases of H1N1, more than 274,000 hospitalizations and 12,469 additional deaths specifically attributed to that strain of flu virus in the U.S. [ DATA HERE ]

The premise to extend the virus duration in an effort to lower the infection rate and spread the virus over a longer period of time needs to measured against: (a) where the healthcare system is at any given moment; and (b) under traditional high-flu seasons where are we during those historic events.

♦ STRESS LEVEL – The healthcare 'system' per se, is expending an awful lot of time on mitigation efforts. As Dr. Birx noted: the current negative test rate for coronavirus among those showing symptoms who are tested is 94 to 98 percent. That means of all the people taking coronavirus tests, 94/98 out of 100 are symptomatic (they are sick) but they are not infected with coronavirus. They are normal flu cases.

Our healthcare "system" is expending an incredible amount of resources on a mitigation effort. According to Dr. Birx and the current U.S. test results, 94 to 98 percent of those mitigation efforts are not engaging with coronavirus. They are dealing with regular flu (perhaps a strong flu).

If you extract the mitigation effort from the overall effort, the current stress level on the healthcare system doesn't seem to be overwhelming. What is stressing the system is a coronavirus mitigation effort with a rate of 94 to 98 percent testing negative.

♦ Dr. Fauci's theory is self-fulfilling .

If the viral spread never exceeds the capacity of the healthcare system to deal with it, he can claim success. Look, our flattened curve worked.

However, when contrast against flu outbreaks, no-one knows what the COVID-19 capacity threshold is within the healthcare system. There's no way to disprove Fauci's theory.

Given the nature of the baseline for overall U.S. sanitation and hygiene, which is significantly higher than Italy, S-Korea and China; and given the higher standards of food safety (U.S. is the world leader); again significantly higher than Italy, S-Korea and China; and given the nature of the U.S. healthcare system (more capacity per person); is it really a fair comparison to overlay a COVID-19 outbreak, without also overlaying a traditional flu outbreak?

Any theory that cannot be scientifically tested; and is simultaneously self-fulfilling; is, by its nature, a false theory.

This is not to say that Dr. Anthony Fauci is intentionally misleading anyone; however, it is absolutely true that no-one will be able to quantify if trillions of dollars of economic wealth lost; and trillions more in economic activity lost; and trillions more in deficit spending; and that might all be done just to follow the fantastical whims of a doctor who is directing the mitigation of an ordinary flu-virus/season, and appears to be quite full of his own sense of self-importance.

You decide .

I think I already have.

[May 09, 2020] Is Fauci corrupt? The story of Remdesevir approval suggest that YES.

Does Dr Fauci enjoy indirect financial ties to Gilead? Does he own the stock?
Notable quotes:
"... Basically, this was a negative trial. Of the 255 patients screened, 237 met the eligibility criteria, and 158 were assigned to the remdesivir group, with 79 assigned to placebo control. Unfortunately, remdesivir treatment was not associated with a shorter time to clinical improvement, and mortality was not different between the two groups. ..."
"... It does look very fishy to me. Endpoint or outcome switching, particularly late in a clinical trial is a huge red flag. ..."
"... There are also other reasons to question this trial, including how no confidence intervals were reported, that not even an abstract was published, just a press release with, as Heathers put it, "two results in four lines": ..."
"... I remain very suspicious that the NIH study was announced the same day that a negative study out of China of remdesivir was published. It just seems too convenient. Maybe I'm being overly suspicious. Maybe I'm too suspicious. Maybe I'm falling prey to conspiracy mongering. However, in the Trump era, when the Trump administration has politicized previously (mostly) apolitical government agencies as never before, it's hard not to wonder. ..."
"... He was unimpressed by remdesivir's modest benefit. "It was expected to be a whopping effect," Topol added. "It clearly does not have that." ..."
"... Indeed, given that the pre-test probability of remdesivir having a significant effect was low, meaning that this trial is probably just noise: ..."
"... But Gilead will make billions and billions of dollars ..."
"... Could Anthony Fauci explain why the investigators of the NIAID remdesivir trial did change the primary outcome during the course of the project (16th April)? Removing "death" from primary outcome is a surprising decision. ..."
"... The most common adverse effects in studies of remdesivir for COVID-19 include respiratory failure and blood biomarkers of organ impairment, including low albumin, low potassium, low count of red blood cells, low count of platelets that help with clotting, and yellow discoloration of the skin. Other reported side effects include gastrointestinal distress, elevated transaminase levels in the blood (liver enzymes), and infusion site reactions. ..."
"... So, if it does shorten duration, is it worth potential liver damage, respiratory failure and organ impairment? In other words is the cure potentially as bad as the disease. ..."
"... For yet another drug that was supposed to be a game changer, I am unimpressed by its results. The whole mechanism is wrong. A drug with this mechanism would need to be almost a prophylactic for it to be hugely effective. ..."
"... Fauci didn't seem to have any problem cautioning against unwarranted optimism for CQ/HCQ even while DJT was championing the stuff. What is different about this? . ..."
"... So, what did Fauci say about chloroquine? ""We've got to be careful that we don't make that majestic leap to assume that this is a knockout drug. We still need to do the kinds of studies that definitely prove whether any intervention is truly safe and effective," Fauci, who is also a member of the White House coronavirus task force, said during an interview on "Fox & Friends. . . "We don't operate on how you feel, we operate on what evidence and data is," Fauci said, adding that it was "not a very robust study" or "overwhelmingly strong."" (Concha, 2020 Apr 3) ..."
"... Now, what did he say about Remdesivir: "Speaking to reporters from the White House, Fauci said he was told data from the trial showed a "clear-cut positive effect in diminishing time to recover." Fauci said the median time of recovery for patients taking the drug was 11 days, compared with 15 days in the placebo group. He said the mortality benefit of remdesivir "has not yet reached statistical significance." ..."
"... Disappointingly, the lock down seems to have made a number of people irrational. Just a quick post to expound on my Fauci post for those who see the world as binary – ie: black or white. These people think you either support Fauci 100% or 0% and a single criticism of any Fauci statement means 0% support of Fauci. I do not happen to worship at the altar of Fauci or any scientist and recognize all are subject to errors – including myself. I view the world in a more nuanced manner than those with the black/white delusion. I find I can disagree with some things a person says or stands for and agree with some other things they say or do. ..."
"... I am of the opinion that Fauci made a mistake here. The evidence for Remdesiver is nowhere near good enough for it to become the standard of care. ..."
"... On the other hand, watching the White House performance from afar, I can see the administration is dysfunctional and is run by a narcissistic bully, who will publicly turn on anyone who disagrees with them. ..."
"... I believe that is the main thrust of this Orac article – that the evidence for Remdesiver efficacy is sorely lacking. ..."
May 09, 2020 | respectfulinsolence.com
Remdesivir: Gilead wins with unimpressive results announced by press release On Wednesday, Dr. Anthony Fauci announced positive results for the antiviral drug remdesivir treating COVID-19. They were unimpressive and, suspiciously, announced by press release rather than scientific paper. It's all very fishy, but one thing's for sure. Gilead Sciences will make boatloads of money. I've been writing a lot about the unjustified and premature hype over hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial drug with mild immunosuppressive activity that is also used to treat rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune diseases and how the drug probably doesn't work against COVID-19, despite its being hyped by President Trump and his sycophants, toadies, and lackeys on Fox News, Dr. Mehmet Oz , Dr. Phil , Dr. Didier Raoult , and a bevy of irresponsible fame seeking doctors who have no idea how to do a proper clinical study.

There are, however, other drugs being hyped out there, drugs that might actually have a better chance of turning out to be effective treatments for COVID-19. Chief among these is remdesivir, the experimental antiviral drug being tested by Gilead Sciences.

Remdesivir is an adenosine (a nucleotide) analog that inhibits viral RNA polymerases. It is incorporated into RNA made by the virus, causing the premature termination of the RNA molecule, thus interfering with viral replication. The drug was originally developed to treat Ebola and Marburg but was ultimately found to be ineffective against these viruses . Because it inhibits the replication of a number of RNA viruses, it was only natural that it would be considered as a possible treatment for COVID-19, and Gilead has been relentlessly promoting it as such as the company has been working to carry out clinical trials.

What prompted me to write about remdesivir were headlines like Dr. Anthony Fauci says Gilead's remdesivir will set a new 'standard of care' for coronavirus treatment that started popping up on Wednesday afternoon:

White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said Wednesday that data from a coronavirus drug trial testing Gilead Sciences' antiviral drug remdesivir showed "quite good news" and sets a new standard of care for Covid-19 patients.

Speaking to reporters from the White House, Fauci said he was told data from the trial showed a "clear-cut positive effect in diminishing time to recover."

Fauci said the median time of recovery for patients taking the drug was 11 days, compared with 15 days in the placebo group. He said the mortality benefit of remdesivir "has not yet reached statistical significance."

The results suggested a survival benefit, with a mortality rate of 8% for the group receiving remdesivir versus 11.6% for the placebo group, according to a statement from the National Institutes of Health released later Wednesday.

"This will be the standard of care," Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, added. "When you know a drug works, you have to let people in the placebo group know so they can take it."

My skeptical antennae started twitching immediately, because on the same day a study from China was published in The Lancet that was far less impressive. In fact, it was a negative trial. What also got my skeptical antennae all aflutter twitching away was how the results of the remdesivir trial were announced. Normally, when a study is announced to the press, it's upon publication of the paper, and the press release is issued either the same day or the evening before publication. As of last night, as I wrote this, however, the actual paper reporting the results of the clinical trial had not yet been published. As I perused Twitter on Wednesday, I found even more reasons for skepticism.

So, before I get to the study touted by Dr. Fauci, let's review some history.

Remdesivir: The early days versus COVID-19 (like, you know, three weeks ago)

The first data published on remdesivir was a single-arm uncontrolled trial that somehow got published three weeks ago in The New England Journal of Medicine . This was peak COVID-19 publishing, when an uncontrolled case series of patients with severe COVID-19 treated with remdesivir under compassionate was published in a super high impact journal like NEJM and made headlines as a result. Be that as it may, the case series examined 61 patients with confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection who had an oxygen saturation of 94% or less while they were breathing room air or who were receiving oxygen support. They received a 10-day course of remdesivir, consisting of 200 mg given intravenously on day 1, followed by 100 mg daily for the remaining 9 days of treatment. (Remdesivir is an intravenous drug.) The authors reported clinical improvement in 68% of evaluable patients:

Of the 61 patients who received at least one dose of remdesivir, data from 8 could not be analyzed (including 7 patients with no post-treatment data and 1 with a dosing error). Of the 53 patients whose data were analyzed, 22 were in the United States, 22 in Europe or Canada, and 9 in Japan. At baseline, 30 patients (57%) were receiving mechanical ventilation and 4 (8%) were receiving extracorporeal membrane oxygenation. During a median follow-up of 18 days, 36 patients (68%) had an improvement in oxygen-support class, including 17 of 30 patients (57%) receiving mechanical ventilation who were extubated. A total of 25 patients (47%) were discharged, and 7 patients (13%) died; mortality was 18% (6 of 34) among patients receiving invasive ventilation and 5% (1 of 19) among those not receiving invasive ventilation.

The case series also did not collect viral load data to confirm potential antiviral activity in humans or any association between declines in viral load and clinical improvement. Basically, when you get right down to it, this study was not really much better than Didier Raoult's crappy study of his hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin combination, but that didn't stop the authors from concluding that comparisons with contemporaneous cohorts "suggest that remdesivir may have clinical benefit in patients with severe Covid-19." In reality, like Raoult's trials, this trial said nothing about the efficacy of remdesivir against COVID-19 other than that the drug could be given to COVID-19 patients with a reasonable safety profile.

Less than week later, as related by Derek Lowe , came news that two clinical trials of remdesivir in China, one for severe disease and one for moderate disease had been suspended. (They still are.) Lowe noted that both trials had the notice: "The epidemic of COVID-19 has been controlled well at present, no eligible patients can be recruited." The apparent explanation was "the stringent inclusion criteria for the trials – apparently patients had to have no previous therapy with any other experimental agent to enroll, and that eliminates a lot of people." Around the same time, Adam Feuerstein and Matthew Herper published a story in STAT, Early peek at data on Gilead coronavirus drug suggests patients are responding to treatment :

The University of Chicago Medicine recruited 125 people with Covid-19 into Gilead's two Phase 3 clinical trials. Of those people, 113 had severe disease. All the patients have been treated with daily infusions of remdesivir.

"The best news is that most of our patients have already been discharged, which is great. We've only had two patients perish," said Kathleen Mullane, the University of Chicago infectious disease specialist overseeing the remdesivir studies for the hospital.

Her comments were made this week during a video discussion about the trial results with other University of Chicago faculty members. The discussion was recorded and STAT obtained a copy of the video.

Derek Lowe discussed this story in depth, and I largely agree with him that the leak of the video to STAT was a serious breach of clinical trial ethics and protocol. (I'm not alone in suspecting that it was almost certainly intentional to jack up Gilead's stock price, a result that was achieved.) Lowe also noted:

But now that it's out there, let's talk about what's in the leak. Gilead stock jumped like a spawning salmon in after-market trading on this, and one of the reasons was that that 113 of the 125 patients were classed as having "severe disease". People ran with the idea that these must have been people on ventilators who were walking out of the hospital, but that is not the case. As AndyBiotech pointed out on Twitter, all you had to do was read the trial's exclusion criteria : patients were not even admitted into the trial if they were on mechanical ventilation. Some will have moved on to ventilation during the trial, but we don't know how many (the trial protocol has these in a separate group).

Note also that this trial is open-label; both doctors and patients know who is getting what, and note the really key point: there is no control arm. This is one of the trials mentioned in this post on small-molecule therapies as being the most likely to read out first, but it's always been clear that the tradeoff for that speed is rigor. The observational paper that was published on remdesivir in the NEJM had no controls either, of course, and that made it hard to interpret. Scratch that, it made it impossible to interpret. It will likely be the same with this trial – the comparison is between a five-day course of remdesivir and a ten-day course, and the primary endpoint is the odds ratio for improvement between the two groups.

Again, these data, such as they are, are no more useful than Didier Raoult's data on hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to treat COVID-19, but this brings us to the Chinese trial published in The Lancet on Wednesday.

The Chinese randomized clinical trial

The Chinese trial published two days ago is the first randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial of remdesivir to treat COVID-19, but it was also one of the studies halted. Eligible patients were adults admitted to the hospital with laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 whose symptoms had lasted less than 12 days before enrollment and who had an oxygen saturation on room air of 94% or less or a ratio of arterial oxygen partial pressure to fractional inspired oxygen of 300 mm Hg or less (another measure of hypoxia), and radiologically confirmed pneumonia.

Patients were randomly assigned in a 2:1 ratio to intravenous remdesivir at the same dose as the NIH trial touted by Dr. Fauci or the same volume of placebo infusions for 10 days and were permitted concomitant use of lopinavir–ritonavir, interferons, and corticosteroids. The primary endpoint was time to clinical improvement up to day 28, defined at the time from randomization to the point of a decline of two levels on a six-point ordinal scale of clinical status (from 1=discharged to 6=death) or discharged alive from hospital, whichever came first. An intention-to-treat analysis was carried out.

Basically, this was a negative trial. Of the 255 patients screened, 237 met the eligibility criteria, and 158 were assigned to the remdesivir group, with 79 assigned to placebo control. Unfortunately, remdesivir treatment was not associated with a shorter time to clinical improvement, and mortality was not different between the two groups. Subgroup analysis looking for hypotheses found that there was a trend towards a shorter duration of symptoms (not statistically significant) in patients treated with remdesivir who had had symptoms for less than ten days. Most disappointingly, there was no detectable difference in viral load between the remdesivir groups and the placebo controls. Again, basically this was a negative study with only the barest hint that remdesivir might -- I repeat, might -- work if administered earlier in the course of COVID-19. That's some pretty thin gruel.

Which brings us to the NIH trial of remdesivir touted by Anthony Fauci.

The NIH press release for its remdesivir trial.

The results of the NIH remdesivir trial can, unfortunately, only be gleaned from the press release and news stories so far:

For the first time, a major study suggests that an experimental drug works against the new coronavirus, and U.S. government officials said Wednesday that they would work to make it available to appropriate patients as quickly as possible.

In a study of 1,063 patients sick enough to be hospitalized, Gilead Sciences's remdesivir shortened the time to recovery by 31% -- 11 days on average versus 15 days for those just given usual care, officials said. The drug also might be reducing deaths, although that's not certain from the partial results revealed so far.

"What it has proven is that a drug can block this virus," the National Institutes of Health's Dr. Anthony Fauci said.

"This will be the standard of care," and any other potential treatments will now have to be tested against or in combination with remdesivir, he said.

Here is the press release , posted to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases website:

Hospitalized patients with advanced COVID-19 and lung involvement who received remdesivir recovered faster than similar patients who received placebo, according to a preliminary data analysis from a randomized, controlled trial involving 1063 patients, which began on February 21. The trial (known as the Adaptive COVID-19 Treatment Trial, or ACTT), sponsored by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, is the first clinical trial launched in the United States to evaluate an experimental treatment for COVID-19.

An independent data and safety monitoring board (DSMB) overseeing the trial met on April 27 to review data and shared their interim analysis with the study team. Based upon their review of the data, they noted that remdesivir was better than placebo from the perspective of the primary endpoint, time to recovery, a metric often used in influenza trials. Recovery in this study was defined as being well enough for hospital discharge or returning to normal activity level.

Preliminary results indicate that patients who received remdesivir had a 31% faster time to recovery than those who received placebo (p<0.001). Specifically, the median time to recovery was 11 days for patients treated with remdesivir compared with 15 days for those who received placebo. Results also suggested a survival benefit, with a mortality rate of 8.0% for the group receiving remdesivir versus 11.6% for the placebo group (p=0.059).

More detailed information about the trial results, including more comprehensive data, will be available in a forthcoming report. As part of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's commitment to expediting the development and availability of potential COVID-19 treatments, the agency has been engaged in sustained and ongoing discussions with Gilead Sciences regarding making remdesivir available to patients as quickly as possible, as appropriate. The trial closed to new enrollments on April 19. NIAID will also provide an update on the plans for the ACTT trial moving forward. This trial was an adaptive trial designed to incorporate additional investigative treatments.

As you can see, the difference in mortality was not statistically significantly different, although that could just be because of inadequate numbers. It's also very important to note the part about the adaptive trial design of this trial, which puts Dr. Fauci's comment about how remdesivir will become the "standard of care" going forward into the proper context. In this particular trial , multiple different drugs can be compared to placebo or standard of care. The idea is that, if a signal of efficacy is found with one drug, that drug becomes "standard of care" and the trial is adapted to study how adding other experimental drugs compares to the "standard of care." So what Dr. Fauci meant was that, based on the finding, going forward remdesivir will become the "standard of care" arm for the trial and the experimental arm will become remdesivir plus another experimental therapeutic. However, given that the FDA is on the verge of issuing an emergency use authorization for remdesivir to treat COVID-19, it looks as though remdesivir will become standard-of-care in general soon.

But back to the results. Derek Lowe observed:

it's worth noting that had there been "clear and substantial evidence of a treatment difference" during the trial that the DSMB was to have halted the study at that point. We can infer that nothing rose to that level, then: we have a difference, but not substantial enough to have ended the trial prematurely.

It's also worth noting some things posted on Twitter about the trial. For instance, Waller Gellad noted:

Since NIH remdesivir trial is in the news

was there an explanation about why the primary outcome (now positive) was changed last month to 'time until clinical recovery?' @matthewherper https://t.co/fCTc1EGI1d pic.twitter.com/W1hAACnO1r

-- Walid Gellad, MD MPH (@walidgellad) April 29, 2020

It's very odd that the primary endpoint was changed:

Thread that summarizes my concerns with Remdesivir press release (not science) as well.

Changing the endpoint midtrial this way is like hosting a race for one destination then declaring wherever you end up after running for an hour is the finish line. https://t.co/XMUXYW3njp

-- Mark Hoofnagle (@MarkHoofnagle) April 30, 2020

This long Twitter thread explains:

Here's Fauci talking about it. Give him a listen, sharpen your ears at about 0.30.

"The primary endpoint was the time to recovery, namely the ability to be discharged."

He's right, it was.

On April 16th. https://t.co/U6Cx3XSOJ6

-- 🏴James Heathers 🏴 (@jamesheathers) April 30, 2020

I'll summarize, so that you don't have to scroll through a Twitter thread if you don't want to. As James Heathers and Waller Gellad noted, the original primary outcome of the trial when it was registered on March 20. The original primary endpoint of the trial was an 8-point severity scale (death, on ventilator, hospitalized with oxygen, all the way down to discharged with no limits on activity) but was changed to time to recovery. There's still a similar scale for the secondary endpoints, but no numbers for that were reported. (Any bets on whether the results are negative?) This change was apparently made on or around April 16.

Gellad also notes:

last thing:
Here is the results table for the negative lancet trial of remdesivir. The highlighted results are what the primary outcome for the NIH trial was until 2 weeks ago. https://t.co/niQ65zgLF2

We need to see that outcome, in addition to time until recovery. pic.twitter.com/ptXGhPx13N

-- Walid Gellad, MD MPH (@walidgellad) April 30, 2020

It does look very fishy to me. Endpoint or outcome switching, particularly late in a clinical trial is a huge red flag. Don't get me wrong. There can be legitimate scientific reasons to switch primary endpoints of a trial. as James Heathers puts it:

Sometimes it becomes clear after you start that the registration is incomplete or wrong. Sometimes you have a better idea after you start. Sometimes your thinking changes.

Other times, you're trying to cherry-pick the results.

-- James Heathers 🏴 (@jamesheathers) April 30, 2020

There are also other reasons to question this trial, including how no confidence intervals were reported, that not even an abstract was published, just a press release with, as Heathers put it, "two results in four lines":

(2) the results in the press release. I call this 'two results, four sentences' – press releases describe the results in incredibly brief terms, usually the two most positive outcomes w the briefest explanation possible. He's me bitching about it earlier. https://t.co/FQlaAQaytG

-- James Heathers 🏴 (@jamesheathers) April 30, 2020

Basically, if you have two "good" results and twenty "bad" or uninterpretable results, what do you do? What are you going to tell people? The two "good" results, of course!

Gary Schwitzer has a nice summary of the negative reactions to the trial and how it was announced.

The bottom line

I remain very suspicious that the NIH study was announced the same day that a negative study out of China of remdesivir was published. It just seems too convenient. Maybe I'm being overly suspicious. Maybe I'm too suspicious. Maybe I'm falling prey to conspiracy mongering. However, in the Trump era, when the Trump administration has politicized previously (mostly) apolitical government agencies as never before, it's hard not to wonder.

Adding to my suspicion is the fact that the study was reported in a press release, rather than being published, which makes me wonder if the press release was written to counter the negative study from China that would certainly have tanked Gilead's stock prices. Yes, I know that the press release reported that this decis, apparently the announcement was decided upon after April 27 meeting of the data and safety monitoring board overseeing this trial, but the outcome switching so late in the trial makes me very suspicious. Yes, the explanation, which should have been in the press release, along with an acknowledgment that the primary outcome/endpoint had been changed, but wasn't is not unreasonable:

NIAID explains why endpoint of remdesivir trial was changed: pic.twitter.com/Zpl08nd4PL

-- Meg Tirrell (@megtirrell) April 30, 2020

Then there was this news report in which Fauci claimed that concerns about leaks fueled the announcement:

He expressed concern that leaks of partial information would lead to confusion. Since the White House was not planning a daily virus briefing, Fauci said he was invited to release the news at a news conference with Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards(D). "It was purely driven by ethical concerns," Fauci told Reuters in a telephone interview.

"I would love to wait to present it at a scientific meeting, but it's just not in the cards when you have a situation where the ethical concern about getting the drug to people on placebo dominates the conversation."

An independent data safety and monitoring board, which had looked at the preliminary results of the NIAID trial, determined it had met its primary goal of reducing hospital stays.

On Tuesday evening, that information was conveyed in a conference call to scientists studying the drug globally.

"There are literally dozens and dozens of investigators around the world," Fauci said. "People were starting to leak it." But he did not give details of where the unreported data was being shared.

I smell bullshit here. What probably really happened is that he was under enormous pressure to release the results. It was also unwise to discuss the results with so many scientists until the manuscript reporting the results of the trial had at least been submitted for publication. I agree with the scientists who had "expected it [the trial data] to be presented simultaneously in a detailed news release, a briefing at a medical meeting or in a scientific journal, allowing researchers to review the data." I also agree with Dr. Eric Topol, referring to the Chinese RCT and this one:

"That's the only thing I'll hang my hat on, and that was negative," said Dr. Eric Topol, director and founder of the Scripps Research Translational Institute in La Jolla, California.

He was unimpressed by remdesivir's modest benefit. "It was expected to be a whopping effect," Topol added. "It clearly does not have that."

Indeed, given that the pre-test probability of remdesivir having a significant effect was low, meaning that this trial is probably just noise:

Unfortunately, by the time you are symptomatic with a virus, you are usually already high/peak viral load. So, when you give an antiviral to someone who is already ill, the damage from the virus is largely done. It's there in big numbers and in the cells.

-- Mark Hoofnagle (@MarkHoofnagle) May 1, 2020

Indeed, I'm not only unimpressed with the modest benefit reported, I question whether there really was any benefit at all, particularly in light of the Chinese trial, which found zero difference in viral load in the remdesivir group.

The whole thing looks damned fishy, and we can't judge the study until it's actually published. Meanwhile, whatever the true reasons for releasing the study results this way, mission accomplished. The negative effect of the Chinese study on Gilead's stock price was successfully countered and remdesivir becomes a de facto standard of care for patients hospitalized with COVID-19. Worse, no further trials of remdesivir versus placebo will be possible, because it's been declared that remdesivir "works" against COVID-19 and is the new standard of care! As Mark Hoofnagle put it in a great Twitter thread, that echoes my thoughts:

By the end of the day, reports that FDA is going to emergently approve remdesivir for treatment of COVID.

Gilead gets what they want. No one will want to be in a control arm in further trials and they will argue all future trials must be noninferiority.

-- Mark Hoofnagle (@MarkHoofnagle) May 1, 2020

Absolute genius. You have to salute them. On the day a negative trial of their drug is reported, based on a press release they took over the news cycle, and with some midstream edits to their endpoints their now "positive" trial wins them FDA approval and a halted trial.

-- Mark Hoofnagle (@MarkHoofnagle) May 1, 2020

It's worse than that. If remdesivir is now the "standard of care" for hospitalized COVID-19 patients, it now becomes unethical to randomize them to a placebo group testing ANY new drug for COVID-19. Trials will now have to compare remdesivir alone to remdesivir plus experimental drug. We'll probably never know now for sure if remdesivir is truly effective against COVID-19.

But Gilead will make billions and billions of dollars.

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By Orac Orac is the nom de blog of a humble surgeon/scientist who has an ego just big enough to delude himself that someone, somewhere might actually give a rodent's posterior about his copious verbal meanderings, but just barely small enough to admit to himself that few probably will. That surgeon is otherwise known as David Gorski ...

John Kane says: May 2, 2020 at 8:52 am

In long twitter exchange mainly led by James Heathers, has anyone noticed that there are a series of tweets by Didier Raoult ?

One tweet reads:

Could Anthony Fauci explain why the investigators of the NIAID remdesivir trial did change the primary outcome during the course of the project (16th April)? Removing "death" from primary outcome is a surprising decision.

In a quick search of the web I found the following two:

WHAT ARE SIDE EFFECTS OF REMDESIVIR (RDV)?

In the Ebola trial, researchers noted side effects of remdesivir (RDV) that included:

Typical antiviral drug side effects include:

Nausea
Vomiting

Found at: https://www.rxlist.com/consumer_remdesivir_rdv/drugs-condition.htm

Side effects

The most common adverse effects in studies of remdesivir for COVID-19 include respiratory failure and blood biomarkers of organ impairment, including low albumin, low potassium, low count of red blood cells, low count of platelets that help with clotting, and yellow discoloration of the skin. Other reported side effects include gastrointestinal distress, elevated transaminase levels in the blood (liver enzymes), and infusion site reactions.

Other possible side effects of remdesivir include:

Infusion‐related reactions. Infusion‐related reactions have been seen during a remdesivir infusion or around the time remdesivir was given.[8] Signs and symptoms of infusion‐related reactions may include: low blood pressure, nausea, vomiting, sweating, and shivering.

Increases in levels of liver enzymes, seen in abnormal liver blood tests. Increases in levels of liver enzymes have been seen in people who have received remdesivir, which may be a sign of inflammation or damage to cells in the liver.

Found at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remdesivir

So, if it does shorten duration, is it worth potential liver damage, respiratory failure and organ impairment? In other words is the cure potentially as bad as the disease.

And, as Orac and many commenters have made more than clear, one more example of Trump's government, ignoring science, and jumping to conclusions.

And once more I suggest reading the following:

Jeanne Lenzer and Shannon Brownlee (April 28, 2020). Pandemic Science Out of Control. Issues in Science and Technology. Available at: https://issues.org/pandemic-science-out-of-control/

Joel A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 2, 2020 at 7:05 pm
ADDENDUM

I found the following: "Particular laboratory features have also been associated with worse outcomes (table 2). These include: Elevated liver enzymes"

Found at: https://www.uptodate.com/contents/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-epidemiology-virology-clinical-features-diagnosis-and-prevention?search=coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19- demiology-virology-clinical-features-diagnosis-and-prevention&source=search_result&selectedTitle=1~150&usage_type=default&display_rank=1

So, one of the side-effects has been associated with worse outcomes. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Remdesivir.

Chris Preston says: May 2, 2020 at 6:52 pm
For yet another drug that was supposed to be a game changer, I am unimpressed by its results. The whole mechanism is wrong. A drug with this mechanism would need to be almost a prophylactic for it to be hugely effective.
Tim says: May 3, 2020 at 11:33 am

One thing they discovered is that the proteins involved have zinc atoms incorporated into their structure. This won't surprise any biochemists, as zinc-containing proteins are common. But there's been a steady flow of fringe treatments for the disease -- including some involving chloroquine derivatives -- in which zinc was a key component. We'll have to see whether that changes now that it's clear that zinc is needed to make copies of the virus (assuming that fact registers at all with the people prone to promoting fringe therapies).

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/scientists-get-an-atomic-level-look-at-how-a-drug-blocks-the-coronavirus/

What is that saying about zinc? I've always heard that zinc was a good thing to have a high intracellular level of it to protect against viruses besides also being needed to make NO.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/nih-cuts-coronavirus-funding-amid-trump-comments-and-conspiracy-theories/

Joel A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 4, 2020 at 1:11 pm
@ Reality

So: "Fauci just dropped down a level or two in my estimation of his commitment to rationality."

Let's look at the "Reality": "America needs a federal government that assertively promotes and helps to coordinate that, not one in which experts like Tony Fauci and Deborah Birx tiptoe around a president's tender ego."

I wouldn't want to be in Fauchi's shoes. If he openly criticizes Trump, he is out and staying in allows him to have some effect. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. So, he has to balance his "committment to rationality" to trying to modify/reduce the insanity of Trump. If he resigned or was fired, could he have more of an influence? Maybe, maybe not. I would not want to be in his shoes! ! ! Personally, I would probably resign and try to get our media to listen to me. Just standing next to Trump would turn my stomach.

So, maybe you should live up to your "name" and evaluate "reality" not an idealistic world.

Reality says: May 4, 2020 at 2:22 pm
So you wouldn't say what Fauci said and would quit, eh, Joel?
I wouldn't say what Fauci said about "standard of care" which is basically his endorsement of this.
I believe Orac wouldn't make that statement endorsing Remdesivir as the "standard of care".
I don't know of any self-respecting scientist who would make such a statement no matter what the pressure.
If I was pressured by DJT I would object but maybe agree to not make any statement pro or con about the subject – so as to keep my position and influence but if someone asked me to say something I thought was not true I would not do it and refuse.
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Fauci didn't seem to have any problem cautioning against unwarranted optimism for CQ/HCQ even while DJT was championing the stuff. What is different about this?
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That is the Reality of this Fauci statement.

A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 4, 2020 at 4:31 pm
@ Reality

You write: "Fauci didn't seem to have any problem cautioning against unwarranted optimism for CQ/HCQ even while DJT was championing the stuff. What is different about this?"

Yep; but the only studies promoting CQ/HCQ was a fraudulent one in France and an in vitro study.

What about Remdesivir? First it is a nucleic acid analogue designed to directly disrupt replication of the viral genome. Chloroquine/Hydroxychloroquine were not even remotely designed to target viruses, though they have a moderate dampening effect on immune reactions, so they work for autoimmune diseases (e.g., lupus, rheumatoid arthritis); but, as I wrote in a previous exchange, the immune response in an autoimmune disease compared to a cytokine storm is like comparing 20 mile per hour winds to a category 5 hurricane, 160 mph winds. In addition, chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine have a large number of mild side-effects and some really serious major ones.

So, what did Fauci say about chloroquine? ""We've got to be careful that we don't make that majestic leap to assume that this is a knockout drug. We still need to do the kinds of studies that definitely prove whether any intervention is truly safe and effective," Fauci, who is also a member of the White House coronavirus task force, said during an interview on "Fox & Friends. . . "We don't operate on how you feel, we operate on what evidence and data is," Fauci said, adding that it was "not a very robust study" or "overwhelmingly strong."" (Concha, 2020 Apr 3)

Now, what did he say about Remdesivir: "Speaking to reporters from the White House, Fauci said he was told data from the trial showed a "clear-cut positive effect in diminishing time to recover." Fauci said the median time of recovery for patients taking the drug was 11 days, compared with 15 days in the placebo group. He said the mortality benefit of remdesivir "has not yet reached statistical significance."

The results suggested a survival benefit, with a mortality rate of 8% for the group receiving remdesivir versus 11.6% for the placebo group, according to a statement from the National Institutes of Health released later Wednesday. "This will be the standard of care," Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, added. "When you know a drug works, you have to let people in the placebo group know so they can take it." "What it has proven is a drug can block this virus," he said. (Lovelace, 2020 Apr 29)

"The data shows that remdesivir has a clear-cut, significant, positive effect in diminishing the time to recovery," Fauci said at the White House on Wednesday. The data he referred to is from a large study of more than 1,000 patients from multiple sites around the world. Patients either received the drug, called remdesivir, or a placebo.

Dr. Michael Saag, associate dean for global health at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, said the results seemed promising. Antiviral drugs such as remdesivir tend to work earlier in the course of an illness, so "the thing that I think is important in this study is the patients had advanced disease," said Saag, who is not involved with any remdesivir trials. (NBC News (2020 Apr 29)

Hospitalized patients with advanced COVID-19 and lung involvement who received remdesivir recovered faster than similar patients who received placebo, according to a preliminary data analysis from a randomized, controlled trial involving 1063 patients, which began on February 21. The trial (known as the Adaptive COVID-19 Treatment Trial, or ACTT), sponsored by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, is the first clinical trial launched in the United States to evaluate an experimental treatment for COVID-19.

An independent data and safety monitoring board (DSMB) overseeing the trial met on April 27 to review data and shared their interim analysis with the study team. Based upon their review of the data, they noted that remdesivir was better than placebo from the perspective of the primary endpoint, time to recovery, a metric often used in influenza trials [my emphasis]. Recovery in this study was defined as being well enough for hospital discharge or returning to normal activity level. . .

Results also suggested a survival benefit, with a mortality rate of 8.0% for the group receiving remdesivir versus 11.6% for the placebo group (p=0.059). the group receiving remdesivir versus 11.6% for the placebo group (National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (2020 Apr 29).

So, first I'd bet you don't understand how nucleic acid analogues work?
Second, though I tend not to rely on one study, this one was fairly large and the shortening of time to recovery was clinically significant, "defined as being well enough for hospital discharge or returning to normal activity level." And Dr. Michael Saag: "Antiviral drugs such as remdesivir tend to work earlier in the course of an illness, so "the thing that I think is important in this study is the patients had advanced disease,"

Standard of Care is more a legal definition than a clinical one. Basically it reduces risk of malpractice lawsuits.

While I probably would not have called it "standard of care", instead clearly stating that based on the recent trial, it is currently the best we have to offer or something to that effect.

So, Fauci didn't call it a cure, didn't claim it reduced mortality, though indications it did, and based on over 1,000 patients, found it reduced hospitalization and return to normal life by a clinically significant margin, the standard used for flu studies. Again, I would have been more cautious in my working; but your rank attack on a man who knows more about infectious diseases that you, I, and many others, a man who has dedicated his life to preventing and dealing with them is just plain sickening. Your black and white view of Fauci is how antivaccinationists and other adherers to unscience see the world. And an MPH probably means a couple of lower level epidemiology courses. So, the old saying: A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, coupled with a personality that prefers a dichotomous world is very very problematic.

Only time and further studies will tell if Remdesivir really does shorten recovery time and, perhaps, also lowers mortality. Right now, we have nothing else and I wouldn't jump on something because of this; but the over 1,000 patient study isn't nothing.

Just to be clear, Orac's critique is valid; but, as he says, by this time one becomes perhaps overly skeptical given Trump's insanity. How cautious should Fauci have been? People are becoming desperate. The risks from Remdesivir are extremely low, so currently, either use it or continue as is.

If there were significant risks and the one study had been one a much smaller group, the scales would be different. And, though Orac is right they changed the outcome points, as mentioned, shortening of recovery time is a criterion used for treatment of flu, so, though not, perhaps, the best end-point, it is certainly not the same as some studies using endpoints such as lowered cholesterol without looking at deaths. They did look at deaths and though not significant, in the right direction. By the way, do you even understand significance levels? Though only one study, p=0.059 isn't far from p=0.05.

References:

Reality says: May 5, 2020 at 10:58 am
Disappointingly, the lock down seems to have made a number of people irrational. Just a quick post to expound on my Fauci post for those who see the world as binary – ie: black or white. These people think you either support Fauci 100% or 0% and a single criticism of any Fauci statement means 0% support of Fauci. I do not happen to worship at the altar of Fauci or any scientist and recognize all are subject to errors – including myself. I view the world in a more nuanced manner than those with the black/white delusion. I find I can disagree with some things a person says or stands for and agree with some other things they say or do.

My criticism of Fauci in regard to his remdesivir endorsement does not mean I have 0% support for Fauci it means that with that statement and some others my positive view of him is now ~80% but not 100% and I will have to check up on what he is endorsing to make sure that I agree with it just like I do with any other scientist/person.

BTW – If some were to check my Disqus account history (Reality022) you would find posts strongly defending Fauci against the Loony Libertarians who seem to think he is the debil.
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Now to a second point:

There appears to be a group of Fauci apologists who, to excuse Fauci's statement, say it is due to 'pressure from Trump/the administration'.
I do not subscribe to this excuse and think it is a horrible thing to say for 2 reasons:

1) There is absolutely no evidence that this statement was made under pressure. That idea is totally invented in the minds of the Fauci apologists in their attempt to exonerate Fauci.

2) It is a horrible thing to say about Fauci. I take him at his word. If he said it he meant it. The excuse actually means that Fauci's word is so untrustworthy that he can be pressured into being dishonest about his scientific opinions and only the apologists can tell us when he is lying or actually relating his honest view. The apologists are basically saying Fauci is dishonest.

I have much more respect for the man and believe he is honest but in this case merely wrong.
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That is all I'm going to say about this subject as some people are going off the rails with their binary view of the world. (snicker)

A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 5, 2020 at 11:06 am

@ Reality

And you continue to miss the point that "Standard of Care" is mainly a legal term. Are you that dense? It is you who stated your opinion of Fauci sank, so your binary view of the world. Try reading my other comments, closely, maybe you will learn something; but I doubt it. "Reality", lacks reality testing. Reply

Preston says: May 5, 2020 at 8:18 pm

I tend to agree. I am of the opinion that Fauci made a mistake here. The evidence for Remdesiver is nowhere near good enough for it to become the standard of care. But then I am not the one having to make these decisions under difficult circumstances. I don't pretend to understand why Fauci might have made the comment, so don't see a lot of point in speculating about it.

On the other hand, watching the White House performance from afar, I can see the administration is dysfunctional and is run by a narcissistic bully, who will publicly turn on anyone who disagrees with them. I also see there are people within and around the White House who are happy to tell whatever lies they think Trump wants to hear, either through fear or hope for advancement. I understand why people would add 2 and 2 and come up with 5.

Reality says: May 5, 2020 at 9:28 pm
Chris Preston said, "I am of the opinion that Fauci made a mistake here. The evidence for Remdesiver is nowhere near good enough for it to become the standard of care."

I believe that is the main thrust of this Orac article – that the evidence for Remdesiver efficacy is sorely lacking.

Quoting Orac's article above: "In reality, like Raoult's trials, this trial said nothing about the efficacy of remdesivir against COVID-19 other than that the drug could be given to COVID-19 patients with a reasonable safety profile."
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I agree with your 2nd paragraph and think that Fauci is not one of those administration toadies and is being honest and has merely made a mistake perhaps brought about through grasping-at-straws desperation as described in a current SBM article.

I, as well, do not know why Fauci made the statement but to me it is very disrespectful of the man to use as an excuse that he is dishonest enough to lie like a toady when pressured by Trump.

I think we are essentially in agreement about this matter.
Have fun.

Denice Walter says: May 5, 2020 at 10:05 pm
re dysfunctional administration.. narcissistic bully et al

It seems that the aforementioned will now " wind down" the Covid task force ( The Hill reports) but Drs Fauci and Birx will still be involved in some capacity.

AS though the battle is already won. Hah! CA and the NY area are reporting lower numbers of deaths and hospital admissions BUT whilst
other areas are increasing theirs.

Maybe the Orange One imagines that if we discuss Covid less, people will think it's gone, go back to work, buy stuff and the economy will flourish. Ignore it and it'll go away. Wishful thinking as usual.

Joel A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 5, 2020 at 10:55 pm
@ Chris Preston

Apparently you lack understanding of English. As I explained even grandfathered in medical treatments with no hard scientific evidence are considered the standard of care, that is, if a doctor uses them he/she lessens risk of lawsuits. Standard of care doesn't mean a high level of scientific validity.

I guess I am wasting my time. Think of it this way, if allowed for compassionate use advised by ones doctor, then doctor may not be protected against lawsuits. Unfortunately, as something I read a long time ago, even in Colonial times Americans would rather sue than eat breakfast. Just one more sickness of American exceptionalism, so maybe, just maybe, all Fauci was doing was trying to reduce this risk.

Tim says: May 5, 2020 at 10:56 pm
No shit???

https://www.youtube.com/embed/KzRhcjOG1es?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&autohide=2&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent

At least, he had the googles on; Wouldn't want him to get fibres in his eyes.,

Aarno Syvänen says: May 6, 2020 at 12:34 am
Not to mention that CDC closed the lab. So CDC is not part of great vaccine conspiracy, after all. Huge news, I would say. One could mention, too, that Johnson & Johnson get COVID vaccine contract. So Dorit Reiss' plots are not very effective, ater all. Reply
Natalie White says: May 6, 2020 at 10:30 am
Aarno, you made me curious about how much $$$$ and how many companies. A list of the Convid19, oops, I mean Covid19 cash! https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/04/07/here-are-all-the-companies-working-on-covid-19-vac.aspx
Natalie White says: May 9, 2020 at 10:20 am
@Aarno- Sometimes the CDC gets it right and sometimes, well .. sometimes you can't truss it. https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/04/cdcs-failed-coronavirus-tests-were-tainted-with-coronavirus-feds-confirm/

https://www.youtube.com/embed/am9BqZ6eA5c

Natalie White says: May 9, 2020 at 11:47 am
Aarno writes, "Not to mention that CDC closed the lab." Yes, sometimes they get it right. Then, they fail miserably like this https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/cdc-lab-contamination-delayed-coronavirus-testing-67438

Confidence meter less than zero.

Natalie White says: May 6, 2020 at 9:40 am
Hmm . Problems with the Wuhan Lab and those nasty bats back in 2018. Just another coincidence, I suppose. Weird. So many coincidences. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/ Reply
Joel A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 6, 2020 at 2:18 pm
@ Natalie White

You write: Hmm . Problems with the Wuhan Lab and those nasty bats back in 2018. Just another coincidence, I suppose. Weird. So many coincidences."

From a recent article in the Atlantic:

scientists have also identified about 500 other coronaviruses among China's many bat species. "There will be many more -- I think it's safe to say tens of thousands," says Peter Daszak of the EcoHealth Alliance, who has led that work. Laboratory experiments show that some of these new viruses could potentially infect humans. SARS-CoV-2 likely came from a bat, too.

It seems unlikely that a random bat virus should somehow jump into a susceptible human. But when you consider millions of people, in regular contact with millions of bats, which carry tens of thousands of new viruses, vanishingly improbable events become probable ones. In 2015, Daszak's team found that 3 percent of people from four Chinese villages that are close to bat caves had antibodies that indicated a previous encounter with SARS-like coronaviruses. "Bats fly out every night over their houses.

Some of them shelter from rain in caves, or collect guano for fertilizer," Daszak says. "If you extrapolate up to the rural population, across the region where the bats that carry these viruses live, you're talking 1 [million] to 7 million people a year exposed." Most of these infections likely go nowhere. It takes just one to trigger an epidemic.

Ed Yong (2020 Apr 29). Why the Coronavirus Is So Confusing. Available at: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/pandemic-confusing-uncertainty/610819/

Note. he links to peer-reviewed journal articles. So, as the second paragraph makes clear, antibodies to bat coronaviruses exist in the population, etc. Add this to the sequencing of the genome that shows just how close it is to the 2003 SARS corona virus and to bat coronaviruses and, as usual, your moronic "coincidences" just lacks any validity.

Note also that his article links to many other good ones.

As I've written before, nature is quite capable of creating really nasty microbes.

Natalie White says: May 6, 2020 at 10:17 am

Oh this guy needs a dishonorable mention, Harvard traitor, Charles Leiber. "has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD)." Our tax dollars hard at work for this POS.

Dude is still collecting a paycheck. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related Reply

Aarno Syvänen says: May 6, 2020 at 11:00 am

This is our guy:
Charles M. Lieber
Semiconductor nanowires: A platform for nanoscience and nanotechnology
MRS Bulletin
Volume 36, Issue 12 (Laser micro- and nanofabrication of biomaterials)December 2011 , pp. 1052-1063
DOI: https://doi.org/10.1557/mrs.2011.26
So COVID 19 was not involved. One should indeed not serve two masters, DOD and a Chinese university Reply
Joel A. Harrison, PhD, MPH says: May 6, 2020 at 4:48 pm
@ Natalie White

You write: "Hmm . Problems with the Wuhan Lab and those nasty bats back in 2018. Just another coincidence, I suppose. Weird. So many coincidences."

From a recent article by Ed Yong (2020 Apr 29). "Why the Coronavirus Is So Confusing: A guide to making sense of a problem that is now too big for any one person to fully comprehend." The Atlantic. Available at: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/pandemic-confusing-uncertainty/610819/

Note that he links to a number of excellent articles, including the two that the following is based on:

"scientists have also identified about 500 other coronaviruses among China's many bat species. "There will be many more -- I think it's safe to say tens of thousands," says Peter Daszak of the EcoHealth Alliance, who has led that work. Laboratory experiments show that some of these new viruses could potentially infect humans. SARS-CoV-2 likely came from a bat, too.

It seems unlikely that a random bat virus should somehow jump into a susceptible human. But when you consider millions of people, in regular contact with millions of bats, which carry tens of thousands of new viruses, vanishingly improbable events become probable ones. In 2015, Daszak's team found that 3 percent of people from four Chinese villages that are close to bat caves had antibodies that indicated a previous encounter with SARS-like coronaviruses. "Bats fly out every night over their houses. Some of them shelter from rain in caves, or collect guano for fertilizer," Daszak says. "If you extrapolate up to the rural population, across the region where the bats that carry these viruses live, you're talking 1 [million] to 7 million people a year exposed." Most of these infections likely go nowhere. It takes just one to trigger an epidemic."

So, 3 percent of people had antibodies to bat corona viruses. As the above explains, it is quite probable that the current virus came from someone infected by a bat. Now, since sequencing of the current SARS-Cov-2 has found its genome quite close to the 2003 SARS virus and to several bat coronavirus genomes, goes against your sick need to blame the Chinese. A coincidence is not even close to any type of proof, except in the mind of a moron like you looking to place blame. And there is a great book on "coincidences": David J. Hand (2014). "The Improbability Principle: Why Coincidences, Miracles, and Rare Events Happen Every Day." Basically, what someone might think is a rare coincidence isn't.

And, the major blame for what is happening in the U.S. is a combination of Trump and overall American unappreciation for Public Health and, thus, pandemic preparedness. When it comes to cutting funding, first to go.

I realize that real research, logic, etc. have NO effect on moron's like you; but, hopefully, others monitoring this exchange are open-minded.

And as Aarno pointed out, you attacked someone who had nothing to do with COVID. He worked with the Wuhan Institute of Technology; yep, in Wuhan and that's it. It's a large city dimwit. More importantly, he has been charged, not found guilty. I realize that the old adage innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to anyone you chose to attack. You just don't know when to stop. YOU ARE DESPICABLE! Reply

[May 09, 2020] Censors crack down on 'Plandemic' conspiracy documentary. What's so dangerous about it

Notable quotes:
"... "misinformation." ..."
"... Dr. Judy Mikovits is the central figure of 'Plandemic,' which basically claims that "billionaire patent owners" are stoking the spread of the coronavirus, all in the name of forcing "experimental poisons" on the population in the form of vaccines. ..."
"... Mikovits claims Fauci personally "paid off" ..."
"... "activates your own virus" ..."
"... Mikovits' central argument – that an eventual vaccine for coronavirus will kill "millions of people" ..."
"... "donated the entire amount to charity." ..."
"... However, amid the half-baked theories, Mikovits touches on some truth. The federal government does in fact pay hospitals a set amount of money to treat coronavirus patients, about $13,000. This amount rises to $39,000 if the patient is placed on a ventilator. Mikovits insists that ventilation is the wrong treatment for coronavirus patients, and is only carried out to boost revenues – something the ER doctors would disagree with. ..."
"... It doesn't help that many of the claims are disjointed, and rather than working towards its main goal of demonstrating a sinister plan by Fauci and vaccine evangelist Bill Gates to poison the masses, the documentary instead just lumps together anything critical of the mainstream consensus on the virus to paint Fauci in a bad light. ..."
"... For instance, it's been widely reported that Fauci's organization did give millions of dollars to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to finance its study of coronaviruses, after the federal government banned such research in the US. However, no smoking gun linking Fauci to the current outbreak is provided. ..."
"... "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say." ..."
"... "bypass the gatekeepers of free speech," ..."
"... "overlords of big tech" ..."
May 09, 2020 | www.rt.com

Pulled from YouTube, censored in internet searches, and denounced by every single mainstream media outlet, what kind of information could make everyone so mad about 'Plandemic'? We watched it to find out. A 23-minute teaser clip of the documentary went viral on Wednesday evening, notching up tens of millions of views across multiple platforms. However, a media outcry soon followed, with mainstream media outlets deploying their 'fact-checkers' to debunk its claims, and Facebook and YouTube removing the video, citing their new rules on Covid-19 "misinformation."

Yet censorship is also a sure-fire way to generate interest in the very thing you're trying to censor – and multiple copies and versions of 'Plandemic' began to appear like mushrooms. So who's behind it and what's in there?

A doctor with quite a reputation

Dr. Judy Mikovits is the central figure of 'Plandemic,' which basically claims that "billionaire patent owners" are stoking the spread of the coronavirus, all in the name of forcing "experimental poisons" on the population in the form of vaccines.

The claims are quite bold, but it doesn't help that Mikovits herself is far from an unbiased source on the subject. She's been active in anti-vaccine and fringe circles for years, even while insisting she's not "anti-vax" herself.

Once an active cancer researcher and (mainstream) virologist, Mikovits was disgraced in 2011 for publishing what others in the scientific community called false research into Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. The dramatic events that followed – a search and arrest in her California home – are used in 'Plandemic' to establish her alleged conflict with Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and President Donald Trump's coronavirus adviser.

Also on rt.com 'I never said it was a hoax!' Trump unloads on media in fiery rant, says coronavirus briefings 'not worth the time and effort'

Mikovits claims Fauci personally "paid off" law enforcement officials to arrest her and detain her without trial. She was indeed arrested in November 2011, but for allegedly stealing lab materials from the Nevada laboratory she worked at before her dismissal (which Mikovits claims were "planted" in her house). Criminal charges brought against Mikovits were later dismissed – but this has been tied to the legal troubles of her former employer, Harvey Whittemore.

Evidence-free claims galore

Of course, the central part of the video – something being discussed in every 'Plandemic' piece and review – is made up of an array of Covid-19-related claims that Mikovits makes.

These range from claims that wearing face masks "activates your own virus" (there's no evidence of that) to the assertion that the devastating coronavirus outbreak in Northern Italy can be linked to the uptake in flu vaccination the year before (a claim which appears to be based on a misleading interpretation of one tangentially-related study, not any fresh research).

Mikovits' central argument – that an eventual vaccine for coronavirus will kill "millions of people" – is unprovable, and her assertion that Fauci will personally profit from any vaccine is outright false. Mikovits accuses Fauci of profiteering from royalties on an AIDS treatment he patented in the 1990s, but Fauci only placed his name on the patent because regulations required him to, and "donated the entire amount to charity."

However, amid the half-baked theories, Mikovits touches on some truth. The federal government does in fact pay hospitals a set amount of money to treat coronavirus patients, about $13,000. This amount rises to $39,000 if the patient is placed on a ventilator. Mikovits insists that ventilation is the wrong treatment for coronavirus patients, and is only carried out to boost revenues – something the ER doctors would disagree with.

Also on rt.com Is Covid-19 our new religion, and the face mask its cross?

It doesn't help that many of the claims are disjointed, and rather than working towards its main goal of demonstrating a sinister plan by Fauci and vaccine evangelist Bill Gates to poison the masses, the documentary instead just lumps together anything critical of the mainstream consensus on the virus to paint Fauci in a bad light.

For instance, it's been widely reported that Fauci's organization did give millions of dollars to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to finance its study of coronaviruses, after the federal government banned such research in the US. However, no smoking gun linking Fauci to the current outbreak is provided.

Boost by censorship

Yet, when information like this is declared verboten, that's what people will think. There's a popular quote by 'Game of Thrones' author George RR Martin: "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."

When right-wing polemicist Alex Jones and his conspiracy-laden news site Infowars were essentially banned from the internet in 2018, the Infowars app shot to the top of both Apple and Google's app stores.

The phenomenon is known as the 'Streisand effect,' named for a 2003 lawsuit in which singer Barbara Streisand sued a photographer who shot an aerial snap of her California mansion for invasion of privacy. The lawsuit backfired, and led to hundreds of thousands of people downloading the picture. Before the case, it had only been viewed six times.

Likewise, the documentary's producers will spin the furor over 'Plandemic' to their advantage. Already, their website urges viewers to "bypass the gatekeepers of free speech," and slams the "overlords of big tech" for silencing them.

Forbidden knowledge is tempting, and by wiping 'Plandemic' from the internet, Silicon Valley will only increase its notoriety.

[May 08, 2020] Judy Mikovits appears to be a sincere and honest individual. The connection of Dr Fauci to the Wuhan lab is also well established. He moved viral "gain of function" research to Wuhan after it was closed down in the USA by the Obama Regime.

May 08, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Ike , May 8 2020 20:32 utc | 18

I enjoy the MOA articles and look forward to reading them daily. Judy Mikovits is interviewed here. She appears to me a sincere and honest individual. I think more investigation is needed before dismissing her as an "anti-vaxxer"
https://www.bitchute.com/video/aNjeT1G6iGTh/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=ca08d0ed-03bf-4482-97f3-f540d3f5666d

The connection of Dr Fauci to the Wuhan lab is also well established. He moved viral "gain of function" research to Wuhan after it was closed down in the USA by the Obama Regime.

There is also little doubt that the virus was created in a lab as Chris martenson outlines here. His whole series of podcasts on the epidemic is extremely interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=928&v=uZUJhKUbd0k&feature=emb_title

[May 07, 2020] US Epidemiologist Slams Trump Admin's COVID-19 Response as Possible War Crime

May 07, 2020 | sputniknews.com

A Yale University epidemiologist is calling into question the legality of US President Donald Trump and his administration's response to the COVID-19 novel coronavirus, appearing to suggest that federal government officials could be tried under international law. Hours before Trump took to Twitter to announce the Coronavirus Task Force would "continue on indefinitely," Gregg Gonsalves , an assistant professor of epidemiology of microbial diseases at the Yale School of Public Health, posed a series of questions to fellow netizens on the social media site regarding Washington's handling of COVID-19.

How many people will die this summer, before Election Day? What proportion of the deaths will be among African-Americans, Latinos, other people of color? This is getting awfully close to genocide by default. What else do you call mass death by public policy? #COVID19 #coronavirus

-- Gregg Gonsalves (@gregggonsalves) May 6, 2020

As of this article's publication, the US has tested over 7.5 million individuals for the novel coronavirus, according to Johns Hopkins University . Data provided by the university details that the country has confirmed 1.2 million cases of the novel coronavirus and suffered over 71,400 associated deaths. At least 189,791 recoveries from COVID-19 have been observed in the US.

Gonsalves' emphasis on the COVID-19 deaths of Black Americans, Latinos and other people of color in the US stems from the fact that there has been a disproportionate amount of novel coronavirus deaths in the Black community.

"Social conditions, structural racism, and other factors elevate risk for COVID-19 diagnoses and deaths in black communities," wrote a team of epidemiologists and clinicians in a new study analyzing novel coronavirus cases and death on a county level, as reported by CNN. The scientists found that counties where Black residents made up more than 13% of the population - about the percentage of the total US population that is Black - suffered 52% of COVID-19 diagnoses and 58% of associated deaths in the country.

"Structural factors including health care access, density of households, unemployment, pervasive discrimination and others drive these disparities, not intrinsic characteristics of black communities or individual-level factors," noted the researchers.

It's worth noting that the findings are preliminary, as the study still needs to go through the peer review process.

"So, what does it mean to let thousands die by negligence, omission, failure to act, in a legal sense under international law?" asked Gonsalves in another tweet Wednesday morning .

The conduct of Trump and his administration has been called into question over the past several weeks after reports revealed that the president and federal officials were briefed on the novel coronavirus, and its potential threat to the US, several weeks prior to the declaration of a national emergency on March 13.

Recently, Dr. Rick Bright, the former director of the US Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, said that he alerted Department of Health and Human Services officials in January about the US' unpreparedness for a possible COVID-19 outbreak. Bright said that he was met with "indifference which then developed into hostility" from the administration and, in his opinion, was the reason for his demotion within the agency.

While Trump is pushing for more Americans to return to their workplaces and restart the US economy - which some believe could lead to a second wave of infections - Gonsalves wondered if there could be some kind of intervention or charges brought against the federal government on an international level.

"And I am being serious here: what is happening in the US is purposeful, considered negligence, omission, failure to act by our leaders. Can they be held responsible under international law?" he asked .

[May 07, 2020] https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/18/bill-gates-addresses-coronavirus-fears-and-hopes-in-ama/

May 07, 2020 | techcrunch.com

3 hours ago (Edited) Just sayen

"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent!" - Bill Gates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUJMR3BUm2s

"men and women need a common motivation, namely a common adversary against whom they can organize themselves and act together"

"new enemies have to be identified, new strategies imagined, and new weapons devised"

"in its present form, democracy is no longer well-suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature of many of today's problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time"

"In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fill the bill"

"The real enemy then is humanity itself."

Excerpts from "The First Global Revolution" – I would add, a wonderful marxist propaganda for the NWO. Ms No, 4 hours ago Listen to this medical chick that saved millions from the EU and their swine flu vaccine that caused brain damage. They tried to have her "psychiatrized" which means locked away as crazy and probably tortured for the rest of her miserable life, being banged with blood draw needles, forced meds and put in a straight jacket. Close to Assange treatment.

https://youtu.be/Hlk_Zfz7xhU harleyjohn45, 4 hours ago She may have Fauci by the short hairs. He is deeply embedded in the national health care oligarchy. Not my favorite person, had a lot to do with destroying the US economy along with MSM. DaiRR, 5 hours ago The big pharma crime syndicate, embedded in government health agencies with operatives like Fauci, is a mega-billion dollar enterprise and those dollars buy off thousands of people like Fauci. People smarter than me need to figure out how to stop this once and forever.

Meanwhile, if you don't realize Google and Facebook and all their offshoots are your enemy, you are the enemy too. wdg, 5 hours ago (Edited) Dr. Judy Mikovits is just the tip of the iceberg as more and more doctors and reserach scientists are speaking out and exposing the BIG PHARMA CRIMINAL SYNDICATE that includes the WHO, CDC, NIH and many other so-called health care and research agencies around the world, and Drs. Fauci and Birx not to mention the leadership of most western government who have been bought off by this Criminal Syndicate which has murdered and debilitated millions of people. These are crimes against humanity carried out at the highest levels of governments, corporations and governmental agencies. Watch the powerful video interview of Robert Kennedy Jr. below which provides a window into the evil world we now live in. Big Pharma and the medical profession which sold their souls for money are both finished because the trust is gone. Class action suits will bankrupt the lot.

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Robert Kennedy Jr. Destroys Big Pharma, Fauci & Pro-Vaccine Movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLi6ZrFp6NIH vQ&feature=emb_logo Sl4yer, 5 hours ago (Edited) Few papers of this "crazy" woman....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21178474

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21576403

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22991430

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21940862

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7853532

...and the list goes on, and on and on.

Your Wikipedia and all your stupid marxist propaganda is fake, yep! 5 hours ago Why is the video doctored right at the end to make Fauci say a damning sentence. You can see his head jerk to new positions as they piece together bits of video.

That fake ending just negated all credibility for the video.

-FAKE- 5 hours ago (Edited) No doctoring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNXGAxGJgQI

Take a look at the original video where he told that (the part of interest is at the very beginning starting at 2:50 and is ending at 3:40) and you shall see that the meaning (when the parts where he brags about his past and future were removed) of what he actually have told in that part was not altered in any way - the meaning is exactly the same. Due diligence in these times is actually quite easy in cases like these, hence you should probably do the same prior to posting 4 hours ago (Edited) I have zero tolerance for fake news. It's not up to me. If I spot it, I call it. You just confirmed I was right. It's up to them to not fake video of a person they are disparaging. There is no way for him to comment about that doctored section at the end.

Edit: I thank you for doing that research but it shouldn't be up to you either. This is not the time for fake anything.

[May 07, 2020] YouTube Deletes Viral Video Claiming Dr. Fauci Spewing Absolute Propaganda About COVID-19

Commercialization of research including allowing patenting the research so that you can extract revenue stream from licensing the patent and which became a binge addition in universities creates "academic entrepreneurs" which are very similar to Soviet Mafiosi.
May 07, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

One thing that should be abundantly clear by now is that any thoughts, opinions, or speculation which challenges the official narratives regarding COVID-19 will be promptly silenced by Silicon Valley, under the guise of protecting the public - which apparently can't be trusted to absorb information and form their own opinions.

The most recent example of censored wrongthink is a new documentary, Plandemic, which features former chronic fatigue researcher Judy Milkovits, who claims that Dr. Anthony Fauci - head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) - is spewing 'absolute propaganda' about COVID-19.

In the video, Mikovits claimed Fauci perpetrated propaganda that led to the deaths of millions of people in the past. She also raised questions about how COVID-19 deaths are being counted.

However, one of her biggest beefs against Fauci dates to the battles for credit over the discovery of HIV in the early 1980s.

In the video, Mikovits claimed she isolated HIV from the saliva and blood of patients in France but that Fauci was involved in delaying research so a friend could take credit, which allowed the HIV virus to spread. These claims are not proven. They were also disseminated in April by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Kennedy alleged on the Children’s Health Defense website (where he is chairman) -Heavy

Google's YouTube is currently playing whack-a-mole with a 25 minute promotional vignette for the documentary which has gone viral - deleting new versions seemingly as fast as they pop up. The original version had over 1.6 million views when it was censored.

Facebook, however, hasn't deleted it (yet):

As noted by Heavy's Jessica McBride, Mikovits has a new book out, Plague of Corrpution, which currently has 4.5 / 5 stars on Amazon.

Mikovits, who has a new book out, was featured in the first vignette released to promote the movie. Her controversial career in the scientific community has been punctuated by an arrest, lawsuit, retracted research study, allegations against Fauci and clashes with the founders of the Whittemore Peterson Institute for Neuro-Immune Disease, which is located in Reno, Nevada. -Heavy

Mikovits has claimed that she published a "blockbuster" study which revealed that "the common use of animal and human fetal tissues were unleashing devastating plagues of chronic diseases," and that the "minions of Big Pharma" have been waging war against her to destroy her "good name, career and personal life."

In the Plandemic video, Mikovits makes other claims, including that patents are a conflict of interest, and she criticizes the concept of mass vaccines. “They will kill millions, as they already have with their vaccines,” she said, stressing she was not anti-vaccine. She claims there is a financial incentive in COVID-19 strategies to not use natural remedies in order to push people to use vaccines.

Mikovits co-wrote a book called Plague: One Scientist’s Intrepid Search for the Truth about Human Retroviruses and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS), Autism, and Other Diseases and claims 30% of vaccines are contaminated with retroviruses. The book contains a forward from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The book was No. 2 on the Amazon bestseller list on May 6. -Heavy

Plandemic has received both praise and criticism, however Google thinks it's best if you leave the thinking to them.

Read more about Mikovits here.


xxx 54 minutes ago

If this movie goes away, this site has an original on this page: https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/plandemic-movie-trailer-released-featuring-whistleblower-dr-judy-mikovits-exposing-dr-faucis-alleged-criminal-behavior/

xxx 55 minutes ago

it's still available here - **** youtube

https://www.bitchute.com/video/IB3ijQuLkkUr/?fbclid=IwAR0i9wYC4flCmrQxbpnFQXukSfASe_7kUTlX1r1o5t1B1K-zDnQnISY6rj4

Indigo Child, 1 hour ago (Edited)

Fauci works for Bill Gates, and will push a vaccine & medications that he will profit from. I don't like him. However, the end of this woman's video takes Dr. Fauci's 2017 remarks out of context. Fauci wasn't saying he knew this Plandemic would occur. He was merely saying that every 4-8 years there is a new type of virus or flu strain in the world. (which is fearmongering in a way -- with every new administration he needs to push for more funding by saying there will likely be an outbreak)

SubjectivObject, 2 hours ago

counterpoint from the DeathStar

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QwU4jcRw-qb77BLCLs99af05S1mL2E2vUz2x2M1396U/preview?pru=AAABchUQgQs*_Xs3NcSO7WTyxuJonqhWoQ

artytom, 2 hours ago

https://open.lbry.com/PLANDEMIC-(pt.-1-Judy-Mikovits):8

Montana Cowboy, 3 hours ago

When Youtube or other 2A suppressors bans a video, you will find that video right here:

https://banned.video/

xxx 3 hours ago

Fauci is a scumbag:

"Dr. Fauci, it turns out, has been a key cheerleader for this "death science" research for decades. He has also been credibly accused by Dr. Judy Mikovitz and other virologists of stealing intellectual property and stifling whistleblowers who sought to expose the truth about NIH-funded research and how it threatens humanity."...

https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/05/should-death-science-operatives-like-dr-fauci-face-the-death-sentence-if-found-guilty-of-collaborating-to-build-the-wuhan-coronavirus-bioweapon/

misgivings 4 hours ago

Mokovitz has written a new book called, "Plague of Corruption". The hardcopy is "sold out" EVERYWHERE. I find this fishy. I wonder if the kindle version has been edited to be less damaging to Fauci, et al. It wouldn't be hard for the government to buy up all the copies. Plus, the website for the book does not load.

xxx 3 hours ago

just sayen

https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/18/bill-gates-addresses-coronavirus-fears-and-hopes-in-ama/

xxx 3 hours ago (Edited)

Just sayen

"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent!" - Bill Gates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUJMR3BUm2s

Excerpts from "The First Global Revolution" – I would add, a wonderful marxist propaganda for the NWO.

xxx Ms No, 4 hours ago

Listen to this medical chick that saved millions from the EU and their swine flu vaccine that caused brain damage. They tried to have her "psychiatrized" which means locked away as crazy and probably tortured for the rest of her miserable life, being banged with blood draw needles, forced meds and put in a straight jacket. Close to Assange treatment.

https://youtu.be/Hlk_Zfz7xhU

harleyjohn45, 4 hours ago

She may have Fauci by the short hairs. He is deeply embedded in the national health care oligarchy. Not my favorite person, had a lot to do with destroying the US economy along with MSM.

DaiRR, 5 hours ago

The big pharma crime syndicate, embedded in government health agencies with operatives like Fauci, is a mega-billion dollar enterprise and those dollars buy off thousands of people like Fauci. People smarter than me need to figure out how to stop this once and forever.

Meanwhile, if you don't realize Google and Facebook and all their offshoots are your enemy, you are the enemy too.

wdg, 5 hours ago (Edited)

Dr. Judy Mikovits is just the tip of the iceberg as more and more doctors and reserach scientists are speaking out and exposing the BIG PHARMA CRIMINAL SYNDICATE that includes the WHO, CDC, NIH and many other so-called health care and research agencies around the world, and Drs. Fauci and Birx not to mention the leadership of most western government who have been bought off by this Criminal Syndicate which has murdered and debilitated millions of people. These are crimes against humanity carried out at the highest levels of governments, corporations and governmental agencies.

Watch the powerful video interview of Robert Kennedy Jr. below which provides a window into the evil world we now live in. Big Pharma and the medical profession which sold their souls for money are both finished because the trust is gone. Class action suits will bankrupt the lot.

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Robert Kennedy Jr. Destroys Big Pharma, Fauci & Pro-Vaccine Movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLi6ZrFp6NIH vQ&feature=emb_logo

Sl4yer, 5 hours ago (Edited)

Few papers of this "crazy" woman....

...and the list goes on, and on and on.

Your Wikipedia and all your stupid marxist propaganda is fake, yep!

xxx 5 hours ago

Why is the video doctored right at the end to make Fauci say a damning sentence. You can see his head jerk to new positions as they piece together bits of video.

That fake ending just negated all credibility for the video.

-FAKE-

xxx 5 hours ago (Edited)

No doctoring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNXGAxGJgQI

Take a look at the original video where he told that (the part of interest is at the very beginning starting at 2:50 and is ending at 3:40) and you shall see that the meaning (when the parts where he brags about his past and future were removed) of what he actually have told in that part was not altered in any way - the meaning is exactly the same. Due diligence in these times is actually quite easy in cases like these, hence you should probably do the same prior to posting

xxx 4 hours ago (Edited)

I have zero tolerance for fake news. It's not up to me. If I spot it, I call it. You just confirmed I was right. It's up to them to not fake video of a person they are disparaging. There is no way for him to comment about that doctored section at the end.

Edit: I thank you for doing that research but it shouldn't be up to you either. This is not the time for fake anything.

[May 07, 2020] Fauci, CDC and the Imperial College charlatan Professor Ferguson

May 07, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Igor Bundy , May 6 2020 20:50 utc | 15

This imperial college that consults with the CDC and WHO and others should have also looked at previous forecasts... No one serious should have paid any attention to this Ferguson guy because his modelling was off by factors.. He has now destroyed hundreds of millions of lives, cost countries trillions. Mostly only Africa was saved because they have lived thorough westerners saying they dont know what they are doing and stopped listening. Death rates at a very few areas that were published were higher but were the same everywhere else. In fact over the course of the next few years the effects of this will be widely felt as above average death rates due to the factors. Far above even without anything being done at all.

In 2009, one of Ferguson's models predicted 65,000 people could die from the Swine Flu outbreak in the UK -- the final figure was below 500. potential death toll during the 2005 Bird [avian] Flu outbreak. Ferguson estimated 200 million could die. The real number was in the low hundreds.

[May 07, 2020] Bill Gates and Co "once in a century evidence fiasco"

The clinical epidemiology tradition cautions that primitive model typically mislead us -- for instance, by smuggling in unproven assumptions that have not been empirically established in human populations.
May 07, 2020 | bostonreview.net

The latter camp has won significant media attention in recent weeks. Bill Gates -- whose foundation funds the research behind the most visible outbreak model in the United States, developed by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington -- worries that COVID-19 might be a "once-in-a-century pandemic."

A notable detractor from this view is Stanford's John Ioannidis, a clinical epidemiologist, meta-researcher, and reliable skeptic who has openly wondered whether the coronavirus pandemic might rather be a "once-in-a-century evidence fiasco." He argues that better data are needed to justify the drastic measures undertaken to contain the pandemic in the United States and elsewhere.

[May 06, 2020] Fauci relied on Neil Ferguson, who proved to be incompetent sharlatan

May 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Russ , May 6 2020 6:04 utc | 56

Neil Ferguson is the chief hack with an unbroken record of failure in his epidemiological projections (and therefore always failing upward, as is typical of the system's most useful propagandists), whose prescriptions have been instrumental in pushing the lockdown ideology and program.

Now we learn that he himself doesn't believe in his own lies, as he has felt free to flout the same restrictions he has insisted must become the totalitarian "new normal".

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/may/05/uk-coronavirus-adviser-prof-neil-ferguson-resigns-after-breaking-lockdown-rules

That, along with the already long list of similar examples among the policy elites, proves it: The lockdown elites themselves know it's all a Big Lie.

For Ferguson's prior record:

https://www.voltairenet.org/article209749.html

"Professor Neil Ferguson, high priest of liberal hospital management and inventor of the generalized containment against Covid-19. Professor Ferguson is still the European reference for epidemic modelling.

- Yet it was he who, in 2001, convinced Prime Minister Tony Blair to have 6 million cattle slaughtered to stop the foot-and-mouth epidemic (a decision that cost 10 billion pounds and is now considered an aberration).

- In 2002, he calculated that mad cow disease would kill about 50,000 British people and another 150,000 when transmitted to sheep. There were actually 177.

- In 2005, he predicted that bird flu would kill 65,000 Britons. There were a total of 457."

His Corona terror-mongering will become known as his ultimate failure and lie.

[May 06, 2020] Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab

May 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

RS , May 5 2020 12:03 utc | 150

Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/

[May 05, 2020] Trump Says Dr. Fauci Will Testify To Senate, Slams Dem-Controlled House As A Set-Up

May 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Update (1045ET): In video of Trump's Tuesday morning scrum with reporters, the president can be heard telling a reporter that he is allowing Dr. Fauci to testify before the Senate - and not the House - because the House is "a set up".

REPORTER: Why won't you let Fauci testify before the House?

TRUMP: "Because the House is a set up. The House is a bunch of Trump haters ... they, frankly, want our situation to be unsuccessful, which means death." pic.twitter.com/G3G5OoV5IV

-- Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 5, 2020

[May 05, 2020] Fauci has already been awarded the dunce cap with his 1980s assertion that HIV was going kill us all

May 05, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

Eric Newhill , 04 May 2020 at 01:26 PM

And Fauci has already been awarded the dunce cap with his 1980s assertion that HIV was going kill us all. So I guess for his most recent action he gets the dunce cap with slide rule cluster.

[May 05, 2020] Dr. Fauci backed controlversial Wuhan Lab with millions of U.S. dollars for risky coronavirus research

May 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

omp , May 5 2020 10:47 utc | 144

A conclusion on the origin of a virus is frankly just secondary in a globalized world, is it not?

Dr. Fauci backed controlversial Wuhan Lab with millions of U.S. dollars for risky coronavirus research

"The project was run by EcoHealth Alliance, a non-profit research group, under the direction of President Peter Daszak, an expert on disease ecology. NIH canceled the project just this past Friday, April 24th, Politico reported. Daszak did not immediately respond to Newsweek requests for comment."

[May 05, 2020] Ferguson and his Imperial College modelers have a notorious track record for predicting dire consequences of diseases. Based on the Ferguson model, Dr Anthony Fauci of NIAID confronted President Trump and supposedly pressured him to declare a national health emergency.

May 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Pft , May 4 2020 22:29 utc | 56

These models are nothing more than curve fitting tools that have limited predictive value.

Basically the models are derived from Neil Ferguson and his modelling group at Imperial College, in addition to being backed by WHO, receive millions from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

Ferguson was the source of the "prediction" that 2.2 million Americans would likely die if immediate lockdown of the US economy did not occur. Based on the Ferguson model, Dr Anthony Fauci of NIAID confronted President Trump and supposedly pressured him to declare a national health emergency. Much as in the UK, once the damage to the economy , Ferguson's model later drastically lowered the US fatality estimates to between 100,000 to 200,000 deaths which has since been reduced further.

Ferguson and his Imperial College modelers have a notorious track record for predicting dire consequences of diseases. In 2002 Ferguson predicted that up to 50,000 people in UK would die from variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, "mad cow disease", possibly to 150,000 if the epidemic expanded to include sheep. A total of 178 people were officially registered dead from vCJD. In 2005, Ferguson claimed that up to 200 million (!) people worldwide would be killed by bird-flu or H5N1. By early 2006, the WHO had only linked 78 deaths to the virus. Then in 2009 Ferguson's group at Imperial College advised the government that swine flu or H1N1 would probably kill 65,000 people in the UK. In the end, swine flu claimed the lives of 457 people.

As for China. They need a Fake Cold War. Have to give people an external enemy so people wont figure out who the real enemy is. To the extent China was involved it was as an equal partner.

[May 05, 2020] Here's a good first-hand story of the difference between China and the US in handling nCOV

May 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

c1ue , May 4 2020 22:30 utc | 59

Here's a good first-hand story of the difference between China and the US in handling nCOV:
SCMP story on ex-pat American family
I was on the ground in the US for less than 36 hours, but saw enough to be alarmed. If I hadn't forcefully volunteered that I had just come from living in China, I don't think anyone would have checked me for fever before entering the US.

Once I declared myself, I was escorted to a "CDC line" for a cursory temperature check (with a large group of Mormon missionaries returning from Europe), given a Centres for Disease Control and Prevention flier about Covid-19 symptoms and asked to stay home and minimise my trips outside for 14 days.

...

Finally, after we promised not to leave our flat, our passports were returned to us, and at 4.03am, some 16 hours after landing, we were home. That morning, a young woman in a hazmat suit knocked on our door and took our temperatures at 10am. She returned at 3pm to take our temperatures again.

This routine was repeated for 14 days before we would be permitted to circulate in the general Shanghai population. We chatted occasionally with our temperature takers (they were a rotating cast of 20-something women). Initially, a man would accompany them to film the temperature reading, but by the final few days the women came alone.

A few days after our return, we discovered that authorities had placed a sensor on our door. And more than a week after the start of our quarantine, we received a note informing us we were not to open our door more than five times a day.

There's a lot more on the epic journey to pass through Chinese airport/immigration/nCOV control procedures, but just this last bit makes it clear what the difference is.

Has anyone out there seen or heard of any nCOV quarantined people in the US even being checked on once to see if they are maintaining quarantine? Much less twice a day for 14 days by a live person, plus a sensor on the door?

Note that this is a much easier setup than contact tracing.

[May 05, 2020] Fauci predictions and reality

May 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

JBrant , May 5 2020 1:25 utc | 111

Thanks for this very helpful tracing of US propaganda.

Those projections are very suspect, especially Deaths Per Day, where the model is way off the mark for Past data on deaths per day! Any decent model would at least account for the past data, but that one predicted a fifth of the deaths, and shows the rate dramatically increasing when reported deaths are slowly decreasing.

In the US, some states (Guam, Hawaii, Vermont) have suppressed the virus spread very well, some (Florida, Washington state) have a slow decline in new cases, and just a few (Massachusetts, Virginia others) are still increasing in new cases per day. Fortunately, the rate is increasing in the District of Corruption, but not fast enough to reduce the corruption much.

[May 04, 2020] Fauci vs Atlas and Ioannides. Who will wear the dunce cap

Notable quotes:
"... Mnuchin said today that it is too early to say whether international travel will open back up before the end of the year ..."
May 04, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

"The basis of reassuring the public about re-entry is repeating the facts about the threat and who it targets . By now, studies from Europe and the U.S . all suggest that the overall fatality rate is far lower than early estimates. And we know who to protect, because this disease – by the evidence – is not equally dangerous across the population. In Michigan's Oakland County , 75 percent of deaths were in those over 70 years old; 91 percent were in people over 60, similar to what was noted in New York . And younger, healthier people have virtually zero risk of death and little risk of serious disease; as I have noted before, under one percent of New York City's hospitalizations have been patients under 18 years of age, and less than one percent of deaths at any age are in the absence of underlying conditions.

Here are specific and logical steps to end the lockdown and safely restore normal life:

First , let's finally focus on protection for the most vulnerable -- that means nursing home patients, who are already living under controlled access. This would include strictly regulating all who enter and care for nursing home members by requiring testing and protective masks for all who interact with these highly vulnerable people. Specifically, nursing home workers should be tested for COVID-19 antibodies, and if negative, for virus to exclude infection, to ensure safety of senior residents. No COVID-19-positive patient can resume residence until definitively cleared by testing.

We should continue to inform the public about what they have already successfully learned regarding the at-risk group. That means issuing rational guidelines advising the highest standards of hygiene and appropriate social distancing while interacting with elderly friends and family members at risk, including those with diabetes, obesity and other chronic conditions.

Second , those with mild symptoms of the illness should strictly self-isolate for two weeks. It's not urgent to test them -- simply assume they have the infection. That includes confinement at home, having the highest concern for sanitization and wearing protective masks when others in their homes enter the same room." Dr. Scott Atlas in The Hill

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It should be mentioned that Dr. John Ioannides, a leading epidemiologist at Stanford agrees with Dr. Atlas.

I saw Atlas on a news program a day or so ago. The anchor looked frightened by what Atlas was saying. This is understandable. The COVID panic is now so deeply embedded and pervasive that to question the rationale for the shut-down of the economy is equivalent to heresy in a theocratic state.

IMO the road back economically is going to be slow and difficult. I hope I am wrong. pl

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/495833-how-to-open-society-using-medical-science-and-logic?fbclid=IwAR2nEYTdayVhhU47mmrIZ9FawIw9M6I2yTtOAyKhNvv0wLdSv_R4Xw6vhFI


Diana Croissant , 04 May 2020 at 09:38 AM

I hope you are wrong, too. I am tired of the drama and hysteria.

Still, I do want the investigations into China's culpability for the
result of their "accident" or of their planned upheaval of the rest of the world.

I just want to trust some designated "expert" to tell us when when we can put away the masks and can take up hugging our friends and shaking hands while smiling and meeting new acquaintances. What is a church service without that and all the stories of Christs care and concern for the "untouchables" of the world?

J , 04 May 2020 at 10:40 AM
Colonel,

Beijing is getting very nervous. Take a look at Reuter's report:

Exclusive: Internal Chinese report warns Beijing faces Tiananmen-like global backlash over virus

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-sentiment-ex/exclusive-internal-chinese-report-warns-beijing-faces-tiananmen-like-global-backlash-over-virus-idUSKBN22G19C

Seems the CCP's MSS's think-tank CICR compiled an Intelligence Report of their own warning of possible armed conflict with U.S..

IMO it's hoped that our IC will realize that this virus doesn't jump ship into the human sphere on its own naturally without 'human tweaking in a lab' which then provides a bridge from which the virus could go from bats to the human sphere. And why would the CCP/MSS play such a dangerous game? -- Bio-weapons R&D.

Eric Newhill , 04 May 2020 at 10:59 AM
There can be little doubt that the fascist/socialist/anti-Trump elements in this country have seized upon the presence of the virus to attempt to destroy Trump's chances in November and to bring about greater state control of citizens. This immediately after the lame impeachment plot failed to remove Trump; which was right after the lame Russian collusion plot failed to remove Trump.

I don't think it's paranoid to consider that China released the virus on the US at a time when President Trump is engaging in a major trade war with the Chinese, as a tactic in fighting that war.

The Ionides/Atlas clinical perspective has been known to be correct - based on data - since March, yet the Democrat controlled states continue to double down on state control of their populations and destruction of their economies.

The Left has become a collection of kamikazes. The elites can ride this out. They have money. They are hoping that when the economy is in ashes, all of the starving little people will come into their open arms.

In 1968 another Asian virus, known as the Hong Kong flu, arrived in the US. It began killing Americans noticeably in 1969. As this was occurring, the Woodstock music festival was planned. The festival went off with now famous record crowd numbers during the peak of the virus. No one seemed to care. That virus ultimately killed 100,000 Americans (not Woodstock attendees); more than covid, even if you believe the artificially inflated covid figures. That was at a time when the population of the US was far less. So a far greater % died than covid.

We've been here before folks. It's the reaction that is different this time. The reaction is driven by internal and external political objectives of massive importance for our future as a free society.

Free people need to be able to make these decisions on their own. Give them clear information and let them decide their next move. Keep the government "experts" out of the decision making process. I believe that as the weather improves and the economic hardship increases, Americans will turn on the fascist/socialist elites and take their lives back. The vulnerable and the cowards will self-isolate. I further believe Americans will do what they need to to get the economy going again, buying American made only, patronizing small businesses beyond what they normally would and voting for pro-American candidates (i.e. the Democrats lose big time).

Deap , 04 May 2020 at 11:11 AM
What should we be doing every "flu season"?

What have we done every flu season that has resulted in very similar numbers and population groups affected. How, in fact, is this one materially different.

Barbara Ann , 04 May 2020 at 11:13 AM
Mnuchin said today that it is too early to say whether international travel will open back up before the end of the year . Coincidentally, I also came across a Twitter poll of 15,000 people with the the following question & results:

"Hypothetically, if everything opens up tomorrow when would you fly again?"

- Immediately 25%
- 2-3 months 20%
- 3-6 months 26%
- 1 year or more 29%

Hardly scientific and I've no idea of the demographic or geographic spread of respondents, but it seems pretty clear many people remain fearful.

https://twitter.com/chigrl/status/1257097868919406594

David Solomon , 04 May 2020 at 11:18 AM
Colonel Lang, As to economic recovery I suggest listening to this podcast with Nouriel Roubini.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/audio/2020-05-03/nouriel-roubini-sees-a-bad-recovery-and-a-depression-podcast

TV , 04 May 2020 at 11:20 AM
The Democrat-media hysteria HAS been deeply ingrained.
The mass of people have - not surprisingly - turned out to be lambs (baby sheep).
Each person is responsible for managing their own life - which includes risk.
Unfortunately, the population of lambs has been trained over the years to look for mommy government to manage their risk - mandatory seat belt laws come to mind.
Ben Franklin said it succinctly:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
PJ20 , 04 May 2020 at 11:30 AM
There is widespread criticism of Ioannides two Covid studies, including the use of an unapproved antibody tests which is known to give false positives; statistical flaws, and recruiting volunteers for the sampling via Facebook, as well as the wife of a study co-author to call and recruit parents from her kids school.

Here is an excerpt from an article on the controversy.

""My quick take is that something really odd is going on with Ioannidis," wrote Alexander Rubinsteyn, a geneticist and computational biologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, in an email to Undark. Rubinsteyn suggested that Ioannidis may simply be "so attached to being the iconoclast that defies conventional wisdom that he's unintentionally doing horrible science."

He added: "Pretty much no one with statistical acumen believes these studies.""https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/23/coronavirus-antibody-studies-california-stanford

Patrick Armstrong , 04 May 2020 at 11:48 AM
Here's who Ioannidis is https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/308269/
JJackson , 04 May 2020 at 11:57 AM
In areas where the health system is not under stress this makes perfect sense. I would give the hugging, handshaking and church services a miss and maintain the social distancing at work and when out of the house as far as is practical. It needs to be done with lots of testing, contact tracing and case isolation. Knowledge and common sense on everyone's part will work. Limited local shutdown may be needed if cases start climbing in some areas.
BillWade , 04 May 2020 at 12:22 PM
Our restaurants open today in most of Florida. In spite of needing our hair attended to, we will eat out both lunch and dinner. Sadly, some of our restaurants are closing for good. My wife tells me that local Facebook is about evenly divided about going out now. I don't get it as these folks have been gathering in the supermarkets the whole time.
turcopolier , 04 May 2020 at 12:40 PM
All

Explain to me what anti-body testing does for us as a population other than allow mapping the extent of infection.

Eric Newhill , 04 May 2020 at 12:42 PM
PJ20,
Except the results of the Ionides study have been replicated several times now elsewhere in the country, including NYC.
AK , 04 May 2020 at 12:46 PM
Diana Croissant,

"I just want to trust some designated 'expert' to tell us when when we can put away the masks and can take up hugging our friends and shaking hands while smiling and meeting new acquaintances. What is a church service without that and all the stories of Christs care and concern for the 'untouchables' of the world?"

I think that "expert" you seek is going to have to be the person you see in the mirror every morning. The "designated experts" have no interest in encouraging you to go back to living a life you love. As Eric Newhill stated, it's going to be up to free-thinking adults to make those decisions for themselves. If you expect or hope for "experts" to protect you from yourself, then you have too much faith in "experts" and in government. Take sensible precautions as they relate to your own risk demographic and respect other people making those choices for themselves. Otherwise let's all get on living like Americans.

ST Harris , 04 May 2020 at 12:55 PM
Even in blissful 'pre rona' December the Fed's repo market had been sounding the alarms that a serious bubble recession was coming. Nothing apparently was fixed from the last wall street megadooshbaggery meltdown. See:

https://www.housingwire.com/articles/wells-fargo-joins-chase-in-halting-helocs/

This means that even those who built up real estate equity will have a difficult time short term liquifying that equity, which means that Chase, Wells Fargo, et al have a lot of pessimism about the US real estate market, the thing they have made so much money on last few years, and which they were supposed to have fixed.

well pilgrims ;) not only is the economy enduring sudden searing pandemic pain, it is also feeling the beginning of a big bubble popping recession, which everybody in the financial world was already freaking about well before the rona arrived. Perhaps endless Fed QE can prop up equities markets through November, perhaps, but then it's all bets off into 2021 as numerous wall street debts scams will have to be deleveraged.

Eric Newhill , 04 May 2020 at 01:21 PM
Sir,
In the spirit of fairness, anti-body testing would allow scientists to identify who has the anti-bodies and then track them to see if they become re-infected and, if so, at what level of severity. That would shed light on the "herd immunity" theory (i.e. is there such a thing and, if so, to what extent?).

Otherwise, calls for "universal testing" are just sound bites born of confusion and panic, at best; another means of violating the rights of Americans at worst (e.g. making people wear yellow stars, carrying papers that allow them to enjoy full or truncated societal "privelges").

The Twisted Genius , 04 May 2020 at 01:25 PM
pl,

Widespread antibody testing will show covid-19 is more contagious than a lot of diseases, but not not near as deadly as most people think. People will see they had it, didn't even know it and are now immune to it at least in the near term. Fear will be deflated. We will then have a known large segment of the population known to not capable of further spreading the virus and a ready supply of antibody serum as an effective treatment for those who do get infected. That will also diminish fear.

Covid-19 and our response to it is as much a political issue as it is a public health issue. Trump was going to run on a booming economy. If he wants to get back to that strategy, he has to banish the fear of the virus. That will get everyone back to work so they can eat and pay rent, as well as continue to piss away their money on crap they don't need. Our economy depends on all that. If Trump is smart, he best get to stepping and institute a nationwide antibody testing program.

Eric Newhill , 04 May 2020 at 01:26 PM
And Fauci has already been awarded the dunce cap with his 1980s assertion that HIV was going kill us all. So I guess for his most recent action he gets the dunce cap with slide rule cluster.
Deap , 04 May 2020 at 01:29 PM
A cruise passenger interests website offered another informal poll - are you willing to cruise again: 64% said as much as in the past; 10% said they would cruise even more to help get the industry back on its feet. Therefore, in this obviously interested sample, 75% want the cruise industry to start up again. Yesterday. 25% will choose to wait or not cruise again.

The cruise industry passenger base remains willing and loyal. In fact they are probably better trained in personal hygiene habits than most having had to deal with noro (aka tourista ) in the past and a typical URI complaint commonly called" cruise crud" that was most likely picked up on the air flight to get to the cruise port. The real numbers of disease and mortality overall within this industry do not support the screaming head llnes and lurid reporting.

turcopolier , 04 May 2020 at 01:40 PM
TTG

It remains to be seen if one infection makes an individual immune for some time. IMO we should follow the Atlas/Ioannides formula. I noticed in re-reading "Sharpsburg," that Hunter McGuire appears therein.

Deap , 04 May 2020 at 01:44 PM
What does an anti-body test do? I just had one last week and awaiting the results - was a cruise passenger and international air passenger during the month of January in a later suspected area. (not Asia).

Here is why I did the anti-body test: (Quest Labs - fee service, no RX- 99% accuracy - drawn blood vial test)

1. Helps substantiate dates and areas of transmission that may not yet be in the data pool.

2. Tracks the rates of asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic cases occurring among the "elderly", in order to see if there is an enhanced risk of not in this age group, if there are no underlying co-morbidities.

3. Adds demographic data specific for the travel industry.

4. Allows possible donation of anti-body serum for research and perhaps mitigation of those who are affected.

5. Personal peace of mind -been there and done that. Freedom to move about.

6. Provides baseline for duration of immunity; resilience of immunity or data showing re-infection can be possible.

Primarily it is for data gathering to help stop the hysteria. That was worth the time, money and blood donation for me. We will never know the true extent of this virus, its impacts, its initial modeling accuracy until we start plugging facts into the "expert" hypotheticals.

Taking one for the team is the way I see it. Will I now become a local Typhoid Mary and our house burned down if this data becomes known? Or will people stop walking out into the roadway in faux deference to my advanced age as I pass by, from our deliciously virtue signaling "progressive" population in blue state California.

turcopolier , 04 May 2020 at 01:44 PM
All

Am I right or wrong in thinking that when the injected liquidity plus existing cash exceeds the amount of money that would haven been in the economy at this point then the currency will begin to inflate?

turcopolier , 04 May 2020 at 01:47 PM
Deap

"Provides baseline for duration of immunity; resilience of immunity or data showing re-infection can be possible. Primarily it is for data gathering to help stop the hysteria." Yes

Oilman2 , 04 May 2020 at 01:54 PM
Colonel, you are NOT wrong. The oil business in America is going to take a very long time to recover. There are complete shutterings of businesses, bankruptcies and more - all while we were in the middle of a downturn. Personally, I just folded up my tent because my my active client list went from 21 to zero over this last month (and that includes intl clients).

As the number one buyer of US steel, the oilpatch represents much more than people realize. We have also been the number one buyer of many other items - where sales have disappeared as company quietly and reluctantly face the reality of the current induced glut.

I'm being forced to change livelihoods - interesting for me, as I am short of the age to get my SS check and too old to employ by most corporate masters....

The Twisted Genius , 04 May 2020 at 02:06 PM
pl,

Yes, I noticed Hunter Holmes when I reread Chancellorsville this time. I knew nothing about him until you mentioned him a while back. He also founded what is now the VCU Medical Center and was president of the AMA for a time. There is a statue of him on the State Capitol grounds, but i haven't seen it yet.

[May 04, 2020] Fauci and the damage to the USA economy

May 04, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

It's likely Fauci's incorrect simply because just as central planners routinely failed when it came to planning economic outcomes in the 20th century, so does that same central planning fail now. Fauci once again may be brilliant, but he's no match for a U.S. economy comprised of hundreds of millions of individuals making infinite informed decisions every second of every day.

The same applies to Bill Gates. Some believe that his undeniable genius as a businessman positions him to knowledgeably opine on how we the U.S. and the world can come back from the virus. Gates has observed that businesses would be troubled with or without the lockdowns, unemployment would be higher with or without them, so the plan should be to continue them until we're better situated in terms of a vaccine.

Is Gates right? It's once again difficult to know. For one, his analysis ignores the "unseen"; as in what would individuals and businesses have done had the response of politicians to the virus been something like "You're all adults. Be careful."

If so, it's not unreasonable to suggest that Fauci, Gates and other intelligent individuals would have strongly called for Americans to shelter-in-place, and tens of millions would have done just that. At the same time, Elon Musk and investors like Michael Burry might have responded in more intrepid fashion; calling for individuals and businesses to work around a virus of unknown lethality.

[May 03, 2020] On the luck of masks and other protection equipment

May 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Likklemore , May 3 2020 0:21 utc | 55

There was a Virtual March today for PPE.

[.] "For lack of a 75-cent piece of equipment, we're losing lives and putting more lives at risk," said Lisa Lattanza, MD, chair of the Department of Orthopaedics and Rehabilitation at the Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Connecticut.

I purchased masks this week that [usually cost] 75 cents per mask that were being sold for $5.50, $6 on the market. We had to pay it. It's either that or not have the masks," she said.
Lack of Masks Shows Lack of Value."[.]

March 4, 2020

HHS clarifies US has about 1% of face masks needed for 'full-blown' coronavirus pandemic

And still not done. Where is Jared Kushner?

[May 03, 2020] Western countries simply did not have an appetite to do any qurantine measures until the pain was high enough

May 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Clueless Joe , May 1 2020 18:36 utc | 66

That WHO basically fucked up because of Western pressure more than because of China is obvious. Just look at the most recent idiocy they promoted: masks are useless. China would never claim that - both because they rely massively on them and because they produce and sell a lot of them. On the other hand, Western governments who were asleep at the wheel and never bothered to store or produce facemasks were desperately trying to convince their sheep flock, I mean, people, that they were all good, managed the crisis as best as anyone could, and that there wasn't any shortage of masks because these weren't useful to begin with.
Case closed.
And for the eternal record of universal history: China's dictatorship obviously cared more about its people than self-claimed democratic governments. Let that sink in for a minute.

CharkVaror , May 1 2020 18:44 utc | 67

This whole coronabs is the biggest psyops in the history of mankind, 11/9 looks like a joke compared to it.
hopehely , May 1 2020 18:57 utc | 68
Posted by: Clueless Joe | May 1 2020 18:36 utc | 66
That WHO basically fucked up because of Western pressure more than because of China is obvious.

I don't think WHO fucked up. Western countries simply did not have an appetite to do any measures until the pain was high enough.

[May 03, 2020] WHO as a corrupt bereaucracy

May 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Allen , May 3 2020 2:09 utc | 70

There's a lot of trash science out there re:Covid- it was founded on trash science.

Maybe next post you could go into the trash science of the fraudulent tests themselves.

In the mean time this is essential reading for anyone who wants to understand what is going on- one of the most concise pieces on the subject to date:

The WHO makes gratuitous use of appellations such as "world" and "health" but is actually a semi-private entity lavishly financed by Bill Gates and Big Pharma, which is owned by a handful of highly inbred oligarchic entities that include Vanguard, BlackRock, Capital Group, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Northern Trust and State Street, which in turn own each other in various convoluted ways.

WHO's main function is to scare people into getting vaccinated and accepting expensive drug regimens (barely half of which do any good at all), thus funneling resources toward Big Pharma.

The World Health Organization establishes thresholds to determine whether to declare an influenza epidemic that range between 2.5% and 5%. The novel coronavirus misses the mark by a thousand-fold, yet the WHO has declared it to be the cause of a global pandemic.

If this seems like an extreme overreaction, that is because this is an extreme overreaction.

Some conspiratorially-minded people may surmise that this is a conspiracy, but it isn't. It is yet another blatant attempt to confiscate a chunk of the world's wealth by requiring it to buy something worthless, just like this same set of medical/financial interests did with the relatively worthless Tamiflu antiviral medication during the H1N1 swine flu pandemic of 2009-10 which caused a mere 18,036 deaths worldwide. This is a specific group pursuing its own group interests.

......

https://thewallwillfall.org/2020/05/02/gaslighting-the-coronavirus-dimitry-orlov/

[May 03, 2020] Cuomo incompetence: Last month, the state paid Yaron Oren-Pines $47,656 per ventilator for 1,450 ventilators, three times the normal asking price

May 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

uncle tungsten , May 2 2020 22:28 utc | 43

Thanks b for that polite and quiet reference to:
Last month, the state paid Yaron Oren-Pines $47,656 per ventilator for 1,450 ventilators, three times the normal asking price,.....

...Oren-Pines has no known capability or expertise in making ventilators. According to BuzzFeed, his social media shows expressions of support for Trump since at least 2015.

He has not provided the ventilators, and New York state is attempting to recover the money, BuzzFeed reported. Oren-Pines would not comment to the online news site.

An unnamed official for the New York state government said the recommendation to deal with Oren-Pines came directly from the White House coronavirus task force. A spokeswoman for Vice President Mike Pence, who heads the task force, denied any involvement in making the recommendation.

The carpetbaggers are always in the lead if not the instigators. Perhaps he was on the last flight home.

[May 03, 2020] Shadow of the USSR over the USA: sclerotic incompetent leadership is a sad reality

May 03, 2020 | econintersect.com

"Sclerotic America" [John Furlan, Econintersect ].

"The U.S. has had sclerotic political leadership during this crisis. The U.S. is being offered the "choice" between Trump, 73, and Biden, 77. Its other major political players are Pelosi, 80, and McConnell, 78 .

Trump of course bears most of the blame for the Covid-19 Crisis.

But the Dems and liberal media also share a lot. Trump dithered for many crucial weeks after China's CCP very belatedly shut down Wuhan on January 23, many weeks after the virus emerged What were the Dems and liberal media doing during those crucial weeks? From December 18 to February 5 they culminated three years of wasting the nation's time trying to impeach Trump for Russia- and Ukraine-gate, as the virus picked up steam.

The Dems and liberal media held "debates" and primaries through March 17 in which Covid-19 was barely mentioned except in the context of Sanders' Medicare for All, focusing instead on such issues as Bloomberg's NDA's (Biden's opponents are now using a similar #MeToo attack)." • "The duty of an opposition party is to oppose."

[May 03, 2020] I was Fauci, who despite a moratorium in the USA outsourced in 2015 the GOF research to China's Wuhan lab and licensed the lab so that it can continue receiving US government funding

May 03, 2020 | asiatimes.com

In the face of a moratorium in the US, Dr Anthony Fauci – the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and currently the leading doctor in the US Coronavirus Task Force – outsourced in 2015 the GOF research to China's Wuhan lab and licensed the lab to continue receiving US government funding.

[May 03, 2020] Dr. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, recently declared the anti-viral drug remdesivir as a "standard of care" based on unpublished trials

May 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Dr. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, recently declared the anti-viral drug remdesivir as a "standard of care" based on unpublished trials. But the judgment was sketchy and has come under question as it seems that the government moved the goalposts to achieve this outcome:

Instead of counting how many people taking the drug were kept alive on ventilators or died, among other measures, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases said it would judge the drug primarily on a different outcome: how long it took surviving patients to recover.

Death and other negative outcomes were moved to secondary measure status: They would still be tracked, but they would no longer be the key measure of remdesivir's performance. The switch -- which specialists said is unusual in major clinical trials but not unheard of -- was publicly disclosed on the government's clinicaltrials.gov website on April 16 but did not receive much attention at the time.
...
"It raises a lot of flags, and it requires a lot of answers," Walid F. Gellad, a professor of health policy and management at the University of Pittsburgh's Department of Medicine, said in an interview, "especially when people start saying it's become the standard of care, and all we saw was a news release in a trial with an outcome that was changed two weeks ago. It really is striking."

A Chinese double blind study of remdesivir, previously published in Lancet , had come to the conclusion that the drug had no statistically noticeable influence on the length of recovery and the outcome.

One wonders how much White House influence was used to push that drug. White House influence may also have been used in this ventilator acquisition that was paid for but never delivered .

[May 03, 2020] David Stockman about Fauci and nursing homes

May 03, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Needless to say, you did not need to be entombed in the infectious disease tunnel at the NIH for 52 years like Dr. Fauci, a pretentious 79-year old windbag who should have himself been put in a retirement home years ago, to realize that nursing homes are dense-packed with the frail, disease-afflicted elderly.

So rather than wipe out $4 trillion of GDP via Lockdown Nation they might have started with say $25 billion of incremental money for Medicare/Medicaid and the state public health agencies to zero-in on protecting, isolating and treating the nursing home residents.

[May 03, 2020] Fauci should be fired for promoting this crap research on remdesivir.

May 03, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

cj , May 2 2020 23:41 utc | 51

Hi B,
I think that we don't know if remdesivir works or not. The trial used patients that were very sick. The virus had done its job and was no longer replicating exponentially. When you look at these lungs they are full of exudate and superinfection and the damage is done. I am surprised that there was any effect and the fact that there was is very encouraging. The time to give a chain terminator like remdesivir is early in the infection as soon as the patient presents and you have a positive test. You must hit the virus as it is exponentiating in the nasopharynx. That is when you have to do the clinical trial then the outcome is admission to ITU or not, then death or survival-- a really big trial.
I agree it is wrong to change the goal posts and it shouldn't have happened --- but the clinical trial was flawed from the beginning any way.
In defense of remdesivir it works rather well in feline infectious peritonitis (FIP) which is caused by a corona virus and is 100% lethal in cats. Remdesivir results in 100% survival with occasional relapse that is still treatable with the drug. In humans, remdesivir will work only if you give it early-- it is a powerful delayed chain terminator. So I do think the drug will protect people that are in the early stages of the disease- so everyone will get it and it will be huge for Gilead.

Duncan Idaho , May 2 2020 23:52 utc | 52

In humans, remdesivir will work only if you give it early-- it is a powerful delayed chain terminator.

Yep, the first 48 hours, if our data is correct. This is still early in the game.

vk , May 2 2020 19:44 utc | 2
I think this remdesivir authorization was a genius move by the Trump administration. So genial even Dr. Fauci must have immediately understood the catch and endorsed it, as it is probable the drug must not have any grave collateral effects on the patients (as is the case with hydroxycloroquine).

First of all, remdesivir helps one of America's biggest pharmaceuticals (Gilead). Therefore, it will also help American capitalist reproduction.

Second, it will trigger a nationwide placebo effect thanks to widespread optimism and petit-bourgeois euphoria, thus lowering the death rates (though not the infection rates), and giving Trump an election boost in crucial areas (by the astroturf protests pattern, important swing states in the Midwest).

Third, by the time the efficacy of remdesivir is debunked, the Trump administration can simply state they acted with good will, with the "evidence" available at the time, and gently apologize. It is the perfect plausible deniability.

Trailer Trash , May 2 2020 19:44 utc | 3
Fauci should be fired for promoting this crap research on remdesivir. Changing the primary endpoint is verboten, plain and simple. The only reason to change the primary endpoint is to cherry-pick data in order to claim "success". Honest journals, if they still exist, will not publish this rubbish, as it contravenes their industry's "Committee on Publication Ethics" guidelines. The control arm of the trial was halted, another giant red flag, so there is nothing to compare their cherry-picked data against.

This trial is now at the quality level of the rubbish research that "proves" homeopathy "works". How can Fauci not be totally embarrassed by this? There must be powerful financial forces behind this. No amount of air freshener can cover up the stink...

NWOdna , May 2 2020 19:57 utc | 4
Trailer Trash,
FAUCI is now prohibited by Trump admin from testifying before Congress on the COVI debacle. This criminal co-conspirator of Billy Goats owns the patents on the same HIV genes that just happened to be found as gain-of-function additions to the genome of the Corona virus. PROVING it is a lab made bioweapon. W/ Fauci's signature all over creation of this WMD. He should get the electric chair for genocide.
John Smith , May 2 2020 20:26 utc | 12
A price-idea for Remdesivir:
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/coronavirus/2020/05/02/Coronavirus-US-grants-emergency-approval-to-expand-use-of-Gilead-s-drug-remdesivir.html
Frank Barnes , May 2 2020 20:28 utc | 13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgnBldI7KPY&t=2047s

Judy Mikovits gives compelling evidence that Fauci is a criminal that has the power to retconn virus research. Her new book "Plague of Corruption" should be a great read, but I've heard parts are hard to underestand.

hopehely , May 2 2020 20:39 utc | 14
Posted by: Frank Barnes | May 2 2020 20:28 utc | 12
Judy Mikovits gives compelling evidence that Fauci is a criminal that has the power to retconn virus research. Her new book "Plague of Corruption" should be a great read, but I've heard parts are hard to underestand.

Thanks Frank for the info, that is very noble of you!

Red Ryder , May 2 2020 21:22 utc | 30
Fauci did the same with AIDS drugs. Jumped on the first one regardless. Unfortunately, in those days, people died and HIV was blamed when it likely was the drug. But, he's got almost the same situation now. If you are deep with the virus, you'll probably die, so the drug used is excused.

Watch the vaccine the US finally chooses. They are talking already about pushing it out in this year, when the whole world knows it needs a year of testing.

[May 02, 2020] If this Newsweek article published April 28, 2020, is credible, then Trump and cohorts should tread carefully

Highly recommended!
So was Fauci an enthusiast of "gain of function" research? If so he is probably a criminal.
Notable quotes:
"... Dr. Fauci Backed Controversial Wuhan Lab With Millions Of U.S. Dollars For Risky Coronavirus Research ..."
"... [just] last year, the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the organization led by Dr. Fauci, funded scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and other institutions for work on gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses. ..."
"... In 2019, with the backing of NIAID, the National Institutes of Health committed $3.7 million over six years for research that included some gain-of-function work. The program followed another $3.7 million, 5-year project for collecting and studying bat coronaviruses, which ended in 2019, bringing the total to $7.4 million. ..."
May 02, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Likklemore , May 1 2020 16:32 utc | 43

IMHO, if this Newsweek article date April 28, 2020, is credible, then Trump and cohorts should tread carefully:
Dr. Fauci Backed Controversial Wuhan Lab With Millions Of U.S. Dollars For Risky Coronavirus Research

[just] last year, the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the organization led by Dr. Fauci, funded scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and other institutions for work on gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses.

In 2019, with the backing of NIAID, the National Institutes of Health committed $3.7 million over six years for research that included some gain-of-function work. The program followed another $3.7 million, 5-year project for collecting and studying bat coronaviruses, which ended in 2019, bringing the total to $7.4 million.

Many scientists have criticized gain of function research, which involves manipulating viruses in the lab to explore their potential for infecting humans, because it creates a risk of starting a pandemic from accidental release.[.]

Dr. Fauci did not respond to Newsweek's requests for comment. NIH responded with a statement that said in part: "Most emerging human viruses come from wildlife, and these represent a significant threat to public health and biosecurity in the US and globally, as demonstrated by the SARS epidemic of 2002-03, and the current COVID-19 pandemic.... scientific research indicates that there is no evidence that suggests the virus was created in a laboratory."[.]

NIH gave a non-denial, avoidance denial. Congressmen were on Foxnews attacking the funding. Where there is a whiff of smoke?

Additional articles on U.S. funding:
NPR
FoxNews
NationalInterest cites Pompeo on Foxnews defending the funding. Also, UK papers repeat U.S. funding.

stevelaudig , May 1 2020 16:37 utc | 45

When ever the US government speaks on such issues. Refer them here... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

[May 02, 2020] Many field hospitals went largely unused, will be shut down

Apr 29, 2020 | www.militarytimes.com

Gleaming new tent hospitals sit empty on two suburban New York college campuses, never having treated a single coronavirus patient. Convention centers that were turned into temporary hospitals in other cities went mostly unused. And a Navy hospital ship that offered help in Manhattan is soon to depart. When virus infections slowed down or fell short of worst-case predictions, the globe was left dotted with dozens of barely used or unused field hospitals. [ Too bad Cuomo didn't send COVID-19 patients from the nursing homes to these ships for treatment... ]

[May 02, 2020] In pandemic blame distribution Fauci and the CDC top should get mayor shares

May 02, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Antonym , May 1 2020 14:03 utc | 15

In pandemic blame distribution Fauci and the CDC top should get mayor shares.

In financial crash blame distribution the New York FED with its top 5 controller / bail-out receiver banks have big parts. It still holds the world's other Central Banks hostage through its reserves and trade in U$ dollars only meme.

In the intelligence area it is not very different: also that branch of the US Deep State failed.

A multipolar world is getting closer..

GeorgeV , May 1 2020 14:04 utc | 16

The jaw-dropping stupidity of the Trump administration regarding the COVID-19 pandemic is truly mind numbing. There is an old dictum that states that there is no such thing as 'military intelligence.' To that I add there is no such thing as 'intelligence' in Washington DC either, or the Trump White House for that matter. If you try to look for it, you will only find hacks, flacks, quacks and certifiable jerks. You would do better to waste your time and money looking for the Loch Ness Monster, Big Foot, or the Tooth Fairy. The prospect that Trump could get anther four years as president is depressing indeed. All that would be left is divine intervention, and I don't think that is any more likely than finding the aforementioned mythical creatures.

[May 01, 2020] Ten questions the U.S. needs to offer clear answers to the world regarding the #COVID19.

People's Daily, China
Notable quotes:
"... Among the reported influenza deaths in the US, how many cases were infected with COVID-19? Did the US government cover up the spread of coronavirus with the flu? When will the US government make public the samples of the US influenza virus and its genetic sequence, or allow experts from the WHO or the United Nations to sample and analyze? ..."
May 01, 2020 | www.facebook.com
Yesterday at 9:30 AM · Ten questions the U.S. needs to offer clear answers to the world regarding the # COVID19 .

1. Regarding the restarted avian influenza virus modification experiment last year, why does the US release no more updates?

The Science reported in February 2019 that US authorities had quietly approved the avian influenza virus modification experiment. The research, aiming to transform the H5N1 virus to be more capable of infecting mammals, was controversial and considered extremely dangerous. Some experts believe that the modification may increase the risk of human-to-human transmission of the virus. The question is why the US government decided to unfreeze the experiment 4 years after it was halted, and why there are no more updates regarding the experiment.

2. The United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) was previously closed. What is the truth behind ?

The Global Biodefence reported in April that the USAMRIID, US Army's primary institution and facility for biological research headquartered in Fort Detrick, Maryland, has resumed full operation. The institution was once ordered to halt the study of biological select agents and toxins (BSATs) last July. In March, there was a petition on the White House website demanding the clarification of the shutdown of USAMRIID. Given that these issues have become a primary public concern, what is the US government's response?

3. The US Department of Health and Human Services ran a scenario last year that was similar to the COVID-19 outbreak. Is this just a coincidence?

In March, the New York Times quoted a draft report obtained from the US government saying that from January to August 2019, the US Department of Health and Human Services ran a scenario called "Crimson Contagion" that simulated the fictional outbreak involving a group of tourists visiting China. They then became infected and flew to various countries, including the US. Last October, a high-level pandemic exercise named Event 201 was hosted by a couple of US organizations. The drill simulated a scenario that a fictional virus called CAPS, which causes more severe symptoms than SARS and transmits via the respiratory route like the common flu, had caused a pandemic. Like COVID-19, there is no vaccine for CAPS.

Given the fact that the simulated virus is so much like COVID-19, is this just a coincidence? Another question is, why did it not take enough preventive measures at the early stages of the coronavirus outbreak since the US has predicted a similar pandemic?

4. US intelligence officials warned of coronavirus crisis as early as last November. Why the warning was ignored?

In April, according to the American Broadcasting Corporation (ABC), it was said that, as early as late November 2019, US intelligence officials had warned the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon, and the White House that an infectious disease was sweeping through Wuhan, China.

Last November, the US National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) issued a report detailing the coronavirus pandemic, which was later identified as "COVID-19". Some analysts believed that the outbreak in Wuhan might have evolved into a catastrophic event. According to the Washington Post, in more than two months from January to February, Trump had received intensive warnings from the US intelligence agencies about the coronavirus. Why did the US government not declare a "National Emergency" until March 13?

5. Among the reported influenza deaths in the US, can the US clarify how many cases are actually infected with COVID-19?

Japanese Asahi Television reported on February 21 that some of the 14,000 people reportedly killed by influenza in the US might have died from coronavirus, which became a hot topic soon after.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released a report at the end of February, showing that there have been at least 32 million flu illnesses in the US that winter.

On March 11, at the House of Representatives, Robert Redfield, the director of the US CDC, admitted that some in the US who were previously thought to have been killed from the flu may have been infected with coronavirus.

Among the reported influenza deaths in the US, how many cases were infected with COVID-19? Did the US government cover up the spread of coronavirus with the flu? When will the US government make public the samples of the US influenza virus and its genetic sequence, or allow experts from the WHO or the United Nations to sample and analyze?

6. When did the novel coronavirus first appear in the US? Did community transmission of the coronavirus start sooner than it was reported?

A report released in late April by local health authorities suggests that a 57-year-old woman from Santa Clara County of California died from COVID-19 on February 6, some 20 days earlier than the date the US announced its first death caused by the virus.

The Los Angeles Times quoted Santa Clara County health officer Sara Cody in a piece saying, "we presume that each of them represents community transmission and that there was some significant level of virus circulating in our community in early February."

County Executive Officer Jeffrey V. Smith said this is evidence that the coronavirus was circulating in California as early as January or even earlier.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom has ordered all counties in the state to review autopsies of suspected coronavirus deaths dating back to December.

When did the novel coronavirus first appear in the US? Did community transmission of the coronavirus start sooner than it was reported?

7. How did the US get the virus strains so soon to start the first human testing of a vaccine against COVID-19?

The Wall Street Journal on March 16 reported that the first human testing of Moderna Inc.'s experimental vaccine against the COVID-19 had already begun. Experts immediately raised questions about the speed of the vaccine development, saying that it would not be possible unless the US had obtained the virus strains from very early on. So how did the US start the first human testing of the vaccine so soon? When and how did they get the virus strains?

8. Why did the US government keep downplaying the pandemic while its officials privately dumped stocks?

According to the Washington Post, US Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr and his wife sold up to 1.7 million in 33 different stocks just one week before the market plunged. Why did these officials at the Committee act so quickly while the government was continually understating the pandemic?

Why is the vital information kept confidential to the public while the government officials were taking advantage to practice insider-trading?

9. Why are US experts not allowed to discuss COVID-19 in public?

The New York Times reported that the White House began tightening controls for all coronavirus messaging from health officials on February 27 after Vice President Mike Pence led the nation's epidemic prevention and control efforts.

Several scientists and government health officials, including the nation's leading infectious disease expert Anthony S. Fauci, have been asked to make statements or make public appearances about the COVID-19 only after consultation with the US vice president's office.

Why does the United States, which claims free speech, not allow experts and scholars to discuss the novel coronavirus in public? Does the US want to hide something or fear of something?

10. What research is being done in the US overseas biological laboratories? Why does the US keep tight-lipped about it?

Natalia Poklonskaya, deputy chairman of the State Duma Committee on Foreign Affairs, has proposed verifying the legitimacy of US biological laboratories around the world, according to Sputnik news agency.

Not long ago, a spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry expressed concern about the establishment of a biological laboratory in countries from the former Soviet Union.

Grigory Trofimchuk, a Russian expert in the field of internal affairs, foreign affairs, and national defense, said the work of these biological laboratories was never disclosed to the outside world, and that they had caused several problems, with widespread outbreaks of dangerous infectious diseases such as measles at the laboratory site.

What research is being done in these biological laboratories? Why does the US keep tight-lipped about the function, use, the safety of these biological laboratories?

[May 01, 2020] Fauci ties to Gates

May 01, 2020 | www.corbettreport.com

Unsurprisingly, the Gates Foundation has injected substantial sums of money into both groups. This year alone, the Gates Foundation has already given $79 million to Imperial College, and in 2017 the Foundation announced a $279 million investment into the IHME to expand its work collecting health data and creating models.

Anthony Fauci, meanwhile, has become the face of the US government's coronavirus response, echoing Bill Gates' assertion that the country will not "get back to normal" until "a good vaccine" can be found to insure the public's safety.

ANTHONY FAUCI : If you want to get to pre-coronavirus . . . You know, that might not ever happen, in the sense of the fact that the threat is there. But I believe with the therapies that will be coming online, and with the fact that I feel confident that over a period of time we will get a good vaccine, that we will never have to get back to where we are right back now.

SOURCE: Dr. Anthony Fauci on return to normalcy from pandemic

Beyond just their frequent collaborations and cooperation in the past, Fauci has direct ties to Gates projects and funding. In 2010, he was appointed to the Leadership Council of the Gates-founded " Decade of Vaccines " project to implement a Global Vaccine Action Plan, a project to which Gates committed $10 billion of funding. And in October of last year, just as the current pandemic was beginning, the Gates Foundation announced a $100 million contribution to the National Institute of Health to help, among other programs, Fauci's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases' research into HIV.

... ... ...

AMY GOODMAN : And the charity of billionaire Microsoft founder Bill Gates and his wife Melinda is under criticism following the disclosure it's substantially increased its holdings in the agribusiness giant Monsanto to over $23 million. Critics say the investment in Monsanto contradicts the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation's stated commitment to helping farmers and sustainable development in Africa.

SOURCE: Gates Foundation Criticized for Increasing Monsanto Investment

LAURENCE LEE : The study from the pressure group Global Justice now paints a picture of the Gates Foundation partly as an expression of corporate America's desire to profit from Africa, and partly a damning critique of its effects.

POLLY JONES : You could have a case where the initial research is done by a Gates-funded institution. And the media reporting on how well that research is conducted is done, the media outlet is a Gates-funded outlet, or maybe a Gates-funded journalist from a media program. And then the program is implemented more widely by a Gates-funded NGO. I mean . . . There are some very insular circles here.

LEE : Among the many criticisms, the idea that private finance can solve the problems of the developing world. Should poor farmers be trapped into debt by having to use chemicals or fertilizers under written by offshoot of the foundation?

SOURCE: Gates Foundation accused of exploiting its leverage in Africa

This is no mere theoretical conflict of interest. Gates is held up as a hero for donating $35.8 billion worth of his Microsoft stock to the foundation, but during the course of his "Decade of Vaccines," Gates' net worth has actually doubled, from $54 billion to $103.1 billion .

The Rockefeller story provides an instructive template for this vision of tycoon-turned-philanthropist. When Rockefeller faced a public backlash, he helped spearhead the creation of a system of private foundations that connected in with his business interests. Leveraging his unprecedented oil monopoly fortune into unprecedented control over wide swathes of public life, Rockefeller was able to kill two birds with one stone: moulding society in his families' own interests even as he became a beloved figure in the public imagination.

Similarly, Bill Gates has leveraged his software empire into a global health, development and education empire, steering the course of investment and research and ensuring healthy markets for vaccines and other immunisation products. And, like Rockefeller, Gates has been transformed from the feared and reviled head of a formidable hydra into a kindly old man generously giving his wealth back to the public.

But not everyone has been taken in by this PR trick. Even The Lancet observed this worrying transformation from software monopolist to health monopolist back in 2009, when the extent of this Gates-led monopoly was becoming apparent to all:

The first guiding principle of the [Bill & Melinda Gates] Foundation is that it is "driven by the interests and passions of the Gates family." An annual letter from Bill Gates summarises those passions, referring to newspaper articles, books, and chance events that have shaped the Foundation's strategy. For such a large and influential investor in global health, is such a whimsical governance principle good enough?

SOURCE: What has the Gates Foundation done for global health?

This brings us back to the question: Who is Bill Gates? What are his driving interests? What motivates his decisions?

These are not academic questions. Gates' decisions have controlled the flows of billions of dollars, formed international partnerships pursuing wide-ranging agendas, ensured the creation of "healthy markets" for big pharma vaccine manufacturers. And now, as we are seeing, his decisions are shaping the entire global response to the coronavirus pandemic.

Next week, we will further explore Gates' vaccination initiatives, the business interests behind them, and the larger agenda that is beginning to take shape as we enter the "new normal" of the Covid-19 crisis.

[May 01, 2020] In pandemic blame distribution Fauci and the CDC top should get mayor shares

May 01, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Antonym , May 1 2020 14:03 utc | 15

In pandemic blame distribution Fauci and the CDC top should get mayor shares.

In financial crash blame distribution the New York FED with its top 5 controller / bail-out receiver banks have big parts. It still holds the world's other Central Banks hostage through its reserves and trade in U$ dollars only meme.

In the intelligence area it is not very different: also that branch of the US Deep State failed.

A multipolar world is getting closer..

[May 01, 2020] Evil intent and premeditation are perfectly compatible with bad planning and gross incompetence.

May 01, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Russ , Apr 29 2020 20:55 utc | 49

Evil intent and premeditation are perfectly compatible with bad planning and gross incompetence.

Look at every US war of aggression: It fails utterly at every affirmative goal, but so far always accomplishes the purely negative goals of mass murder, gross physical destruction and generating failed states. Same for disaster responses like with Katrina: They couldn't save any lives or help poor people rebuild, but they could complete the destruction of social infrastructure which the hurricane hadn't finished off.

That's the US, domestically and around the world. And people really think any kind of intensive response to an epidemic would have any other kind of outcome?

Jackrabbit , Apr 29 2020 21:32 utc | 53

NoOneYouKnow Apr29 20:41
... it wouldn't surprise me if they deployed this virus in China without assuming, or caring about, blowback in the US.

karlof1 has speculated along the same lines weeks ago.

My understanding of karlof1's argument is as follows: China turned the "weapon" (assuming it was a deliberate attack) back on USA by revealing the virus instead of keeping the outbreak quiet. The result has been the destabilizing of US society because USA leadership had never planned to respond to the virus in any way that is appropriate to a new virus.

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[May 01, 2020] Bright transfer was in response to his insistence that the government invest into safe and scientifically vetted solutions for fighting COVID-19, and not in drugs, vaccines and other technologies that lack scientific merit

May 01, 2020 | www.counterpunch.org

The people need science. The teaching is a legacy of pathologist Rudolph Virchow who was at the barricades in Berlin in 1848. A journal entry in that year of revolutions reads, " Medicine is a social science , and politics nothing but medicine on a grand scale." The pioneering Virchow first pronounced upon the biological importance of cells in health and disease. He was the " chief founder of modern scientific medicine." (William H. Welch, Johns Hopkins School of Medicine 1902),

Virchow inspires today's imperative that the entitled classes not abandon science in the face of danger nor twist science to fit proprietary uses. This is the Virchow whose study of a typhus outbreak in Upper Silesia convinced him that class-based oppression – poverty and lack of education – was responsible for the epidemic, the Virchow who helped form the German Radical Party in 1884 and served in the Prussian and German parliaments.

Ask immunologist and virologist Rick Bright about science serving the people. That expert in preventing viral disease, particularly influenza, on April 21 was removed from his position in the Department of Health and Human Services. Bright was in charge of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority and of efforts to develop an anti-COVID 19 vaccine. He had 63 scientific articles to his credit.

Bright told the press that, "I believe this transfer was in response to my insistence that the government invest the billions of dollars allocated by Congress to address the COVID-19 pandemic into safe and scientifically vetted solutions, and not in drugs, vaccines and other technologies that lack scientific merit. I am speaking out because to combat this deadly virus, science -- not politics or cronyism -- has to lead the way."

He added that, "contrary to misguided directives, I limited the broad use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, promoted by the Administration as a panacea, but which clearly lack scientific merit."

Science has been a bit player in the U.S. government's confrontation with the pandemic. President Trump's anti-science attitudes are far from the whole story, although his cut-off of U.S. funding for the World Health Organization was as dangerous as it was symbolic.

That government failed to take steps that would have allowed scientific inquiry during the early stages of the pandemic Early case-finding and tracking of contacts did not take place. Investigators lacked the raw material that might have allowed them to define the contours of an evolving epidemic, its special characteristics.

The fact of delay was clear on April 21 when a California medical examiner announced that COVID 19 had accounted for one death on February 6 and another on February 17. Neither victim had traveled outside the United States. The onset of their infections was presumably in mid-January. All along, authorities had regarded a Washington-state patient who tested positive on February 26 as the first U.S. victim of community-acquired infection. Yet CDC director Robert Redfield, testifying before a congressional committee on March 11, revealed that some patients assumed to have died from influenza did die from COVID 19 infection.

Also, the administration's China-bashing and even conspiracy theories about the origins of the pandemic testify to its dismissal of useful scientist research, particularly the findings of scientists throughout the world who know about the beginnings of the pandemic, in China.

British and German scientists " reconstructed the early 'evolutionary paths' of COVID-19 in humans." A Cambridge University team "mapped some of the original spread of the new coronavirus through its mutations, which creates different viral lineages." Virus genomes were studied " from across the world between 24 December 2019 and 4 March 2020."

The researchers categorized three types of COVID 19. The original Wuhan virus was type A; its mutated versions showed up in the United States and Australia. Type B, predominating in Wuhan, stayed put in East Asia. Type C appeared only in Europe, Singapore, Hong Kong and South Korea. The researchers "traced established infection routes: the mutations and viral lineages joined the dots between known cases." Such information about the virus's biologic behavior might have enabled public health officials to identify at-risk populations within the United States and abroad.

Lead author Peter Forster suggested to a reporter that in Wuhan "the first infection and spread among humans of COVID-19 occurred between mid-September and early December." His disclosure has implications for U.S. military athletes participating in the "World Military Games" in Wuhan in late October. They were among 9308 military athletes on hand from 100 countries. The athletes might have carried the virus with them on their return to the various nations.

Zoologist Peter Daszak, president of the New York – based EcoHealth Alliance, does research in China on inter-species sharing of viruses. He pointed out in 2013 that, "Coronaviruses evolve very rapidly [and] are exquisitely evolved to jump from one species to another." At the time, he was reflecting on the SARS coronavirus epidemic of 10 years earlier.

He offered a suggestion that, if acted upon, might have prevented the COVID 19 pandemic. The cost, Daszak estimated, would have been "about $1.5bn to discover all the viruses in mammals. I think that would be a great investment because once you have done it, you can develop vaccines and get ready with test kits to find the first stage of emergence and stop it."

This story of the U.S. government's abuse of science ends with lessons learned. They are: (1) science must exist for the benefit of all people and not be left to the mercies of the rich and powerful, (2) a government restricting and disrespecting scientists, like Dr. Bright, is dangerous to the people, and (3) a capability to plan is of the essence to a state that would assure the safety and flourishing of all its people. These basic standards, it seems here, will be identifying features for those societies that do emerge relatively intact from the pandemic. The odds favor the socialist ones.

[May 01, 2020] Dr. Ron Paul Interview: Bill Gates Tony Fauci Are Determined To Run The World by Vaccines

May 01, 2020 | www.unz.com

Agent76 , says: Show Comment April 30, 2020 at 1:25 pm GMT

Apr 16, 2020 Dr. Ron Paul Interview: Bill Gates & Tony Fauci Are Determined To Run The World by Vaccines

Dr. Paul and Spiro discuss the current coronavirus crisis and the political, social and economic fallout effecting millions of Americans, as people begin to display resistance to the government lockdown response.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/LKkByA7nC4U?feature=oembed

Sep 11, 2013 9/11 In A Nutshell

James Corbett presents this 5 minute parody of the official conspiracy theory of 9/11

https://www.youtube.com/embed/vrJiKbK0tVM?feature=oembed

2.3 TRillion Dollars Missing from DOD Day before 9/11/ 2001

SEPTEMBER 10, 2001 Defense Business Practices

Secretary Rumsfeld and other officials talked with reporters about the need to refine the Defense Department's business practices. An opening ceremony will kick off Acquisition and Logistics Excellence Week. They answered questions from members of the media

http://www.c-span.org/video/?165947-1/defense-business-practices

[May 01, 2020] The CDC is actually a vaccine company. -- Robert F. Kennedy Jr., by Paul Craig Roberts

May 01, 2020 | www.unz.com

Watch this RT interview with Robert Kennedy to see how corrupt the CDC is. We cannot trust this corrupt organization with our health. The CDC has a large financial interest in pushing untested vaccines on the public.

WHO is even more under the control of Big Pharma. The organization is corrupt beyond the meaning of the word. "The WHO is a sock puppet for the pharmaceutical industry." -- Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

https://youtu.be/5CfLDXpC324

[Apr 30, 2020] Fauci and gain of function research

Apr 30, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

xxx 2 hours ago (Edited)

Now its come out that Fauci personally oversaw 3.7million in grants to the Wuhan lab;

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/paid-for-the-damn-virus-thats-killing-us-giuliani-rips-fauci-over-grants-to-wuhan-laboratory

""Back in 2014, the Obama administration prohibited the U.S. from giving any money to any laboratory, including in the U.S., that was fooling around with these viruses. Prohibited! Despite that, Dr. Fauci gave $3.7 million to the Wuhan laboratory -- and then even after the State Department issued reports about how unsafe that laboratory was, and how suspicious they were in the way they were developing a virus that could be transmitted to humans,"Giuliani claimed

So, the guy who is heading up the Corona response personally oversaw the funding of the lab that created it......COME ON!

xxx 2 hours ago


I am a consistent complainer over the Obama administration's policies but this is one policy where I admire them. THIS is what I mean when I keep complaining about the scientific community. Obama had it right and should have been even more vocal in their opposition to misguided research. If the reports on Fauci funding this are true it should be exposed and LOUDLY vilified. WHEN are we going to hold the scientific community accountable? Do you know how many brilliant and decent scientists are being muted because of the likes of these type scientists that want free reign to do whatever they want?

Here's my point: If a scientist lower in prestige than Dr. Fauci had written a paper defining "playing with viruses as important research" as unnecessary and dangerous, he/she would be putting their very careers at risk due to Fauci's power. They've been doing it to any scientist that disputes climate change models, to the point of even firing editors that allow varying opinions. I'm not saying scientists are bad, just the opposite. Good Scientists are being stifled by a small powerful few within their leagues.

xxx 3 hours ago

Here an expose of Dr Fauci ; **** floats as we say . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq2uuHfmq8k

[Apr 30, 2020] I do think it has been a mistake not to quarantine nursing homes, ltc facilities, hospitals, etc.. Including the docs, nurses, workers. Those are the vectors 50% of covid deaths could have been prevented, esp in NY, like that.

Apr 30, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

BDrizz , Apr 30 2020 2:09 utc | 92

These lockdowns have ended life as we know it, no matter which position you take. I do think it has been a mistake not to quarantine nursing homes, ltc facilities, hospitals, etc.. Including the docs, nurses, workers. Those are the vectors & 50% of covid deaths could have been prevented, esp in NY, like that. At year-end, we can look at all-cause mortalities trends, see how this year stacks up. I hope these measures make sense given the extreme poverty, violence, death they will cause. There will be no permanent vaccine, they've been trying w/Coronav's for a long time. This thing is a fact of life going forward. It will mutate like any other cold or flu. Are we going to shut down & go Orwell every time it pops up? We're f'ed.

[Apr 30, 2020] Ferguson's alamist narrative about two million dead int he USA alone has triumphed, helped by our incontinent and irresponsible media. ...

Apr 30, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

fairleft , Apr 30 2020 0:43 utc | 80

Neil Ferguson hasn't been part of b's coronavirus narrative, but his bad statistics (he has a history) are key to the whole story. Great opinion piece by R.R. Reno :

"On March 16, Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London predicted a coronavirus death toll of more than two million in the United States alone. He arrived at this number by assuming that infection would be nearly universal and the fatality rate would be high -- a terrifying prospect. The next day, Stanford epidemiologist John Ioannidis sifted through the data and predicted less widespread infection and a fatality rate of between 0.05 and 1.0 percent -- not that different from the common flu. The coronavirus is not the common flu. It has different characteristics, afflicting the old more than the young, men more than women. Nevertheless, all data trends since mid-March show that Ferguson was fantastically wrong and Ioannidis was largely right about its mortal threat. [fairleft: Reno goes too far here: data indicates Covid-19 is worse than the flu for the vulnerable, possibly much worse depending on age and the severity of their vulnerability.]

"But Ferguson's narrative has triumphed, helped by our incontinent and irresponsible media. ...

"Our entire ruling class, which united behind catastrophism and the untested methods of mass shutdown, is implicated in the unfolding fiasco.

"Journalists continue to sustain the pandemic narrative. Ioannidis is still ignored, though the evidence I outlined above has been building for weeks. ..."

[[U of Oxford prediction: "Taking account of historical experience, trends in the data, increased number of infections in the population at largest, and potential impact of misclassification of deaths gives a presumed estimate for the COVID-19 IFR somewhere between 0.1% and 0.36%." All studies so far are flawed and not all are within that range, but here are basically ALL of them, which generally point to the Oxford prediction being about right:

NYC shopping center: 0.6%
Santa Clara County: 0.1 - 0.2%
LA County: 0.1 - 0.3%
Oise, France high school: 0.0%
Gangelt, Germany: 0.37%
Bergamo, Italy: 0.57%
Lombardio, Italy: 0.87%
Iceland: 0.05%
UK: 0.9%
China: 0.66%
Boston homeless shelter: 0.0%
US Navy ship: 0.07% ]]

R.R. Reno concludes:

"We've been stampeded into a regime of social control that is unprecedented in our history. Our economy has been shattered.... As unemployment numbers skyrocket and Congress spends trillions, the political stakes rise.

"The experts, professionals, bureaucrats, and public officials who did this to us have tremendous incentives to close ranks and say, 'It is not wise to tell people that the danger was never grave and now has passed.' Sustaining the coronavirus narrative will require many lies. It will be up to us to insist on the truth."

[Apr 30, 2020] This interview with Dr Mikovits tells us what this is all about and why Fauci cannot be trusted. Only goes for 15 mins

Apr 30, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Graham Peppercorn , Apr 30 2020 4:08 utc | 107

I cannot suggest more strongly for anyone seeking the truth about this Corona Virus that you HAVE to listen to an interview with Dr Mikovits who had originally worked on the discovery of the Aids Virus and who was bullied and threatened by Fauci. YOU HAVE TO listen to this Scientist!!!

I am NOT connected to this site in any way but I think this interview HAS to spread throughout the World because this Scientist knows what she is talking about. AND, it is very scary.

https://www.trunews.com/stream/edward-s-interview-of-dr-judy-mikovits-mp4


james , Apr 30 2020 4:43 utc | 108

dr... mikovits.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Mikovits
Peppercron , Apr 30 2020 10:58 utc | 130
...This interview with Dr Mikovits tells us what this is all about and why Fauci cannot be trusted. Only goes for 15 mins. But this is the most damning insight yet to be shared on the CV

https://www.trunews.com/stream/edward-s-interview-of-dr-judy-mikovits-mp4

[Apr 26, 2020] A sad situation at the Hunter Holmes McGuire VA Medical Center

Notable quotes:
"... As of Thursday, 23 employees at the 4,000-employee VA hospital, had tested positive, according to an update the hospital director emailed to employees. Another 45 employees are home awaiting test results. The hospital declined to say how many of the employees who are positive or are awaiting results are nurses, or name which parts of the hospital they work in. ..."
"... Three VA nurses said they were given N95 respirators for several days early in the crisis in March, but after that they were given surgical masks, which provide less protection from the coronavirus. Another nurse reported wearing only a surgical mask the entire time caring for coronavirus patients. The nurses, who work in a unit that treats COVID-19 positive patients or patients awaiting test results who are suspected to be positive, spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to news media and their job security could be at risk if they spoke publicly. ..."
"... The hospital had 73 confirmed coronavirus cases among patients as of Friday, and four inpatient deaths. "Currently every health care system is taking steps to conserve PPE. VA is no different," Hodge wrote in a series of responses by email to questions. Hodge also said that the hospital is issuing surgical masks to all staff who work in non-COVID-19 units. ..."
"... "Those staff are provided one surgical mask weekly to assist in protecting high-risk patients who are asymptomatic," he wrote. ..."
"... Since the number of COVID-19 tests are limited nationwide, there is no COVID-19 testing capability at our CBOC locations. Please call your provider to determine whether you would be a candidate for testing. If so, then you may proceed to the Hunter Holmes McGuire VA Medical Center in Richmond, Virginia where Monday – Friday, 8:30 a.m. – 1:00 p.m., a Drive-Thru Clinic is available for screening and testing (if you need it); you will be triaged according to your symptoms. Also, Monday – Friday, 8:00 a.m. – 4:00 p.m., you may be directed to be seen in the medical center's High Consequence Infections (HCI) Clinic. Last, depending on your symptoms, you may go to the hospital's Emergency Department or to an Urgent Care Center or Emergency Department in your area. ..."
"... Much of the federal stockpile of PPE sent to the states had passed their expire dates, 2010 for some, and was either useless or had to be repaired. I blame the failure on the person, or persons, charged with monitoring the wharehoused stockpiles. The president only knows what he's told. He can't micromanage the nation. He needs Jack Webb directing him to stick with the facts. ..."
"... I read somewhere the V.A. ordered the masks but F.E.M.A expropriated them on the directions of Jared Kushner, who will later decide who receives the masks...something about the National Emergency Stockpile...what a mess. ..."
Apr 26, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com


Colonel Lang sent me an eye opening link last night concerning the Hunter Holmes McGuire VA hospital in Richmond. Here are some excerpts from the Richmond Times-Dispatch article.

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As of Thursday, 23 employees at the 4,000-employee VA hospital, had tested positive, according to an update the hospital director emailed to employees. Another 45 employees are home awaiting test results. The hospital declined to say how many of the employees who are positive or are awaiting results are nurses, or name which parts of the hospital they work in.

Three VA nurses said they were given N95 respirators for several days early in the crisis in March, but after that they were given surgical masks, which provide less protection from the coronavirus. Another nurse reported wearing only a surgical mask the entire time caring for coronavirus patients. The nurses, who work in a unit that treats COVID-19 positive patients or patients awaiting test results who are suspected to be positive, spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to news media and their job security could be at risk if they spoke publicly.

The hospital had 73 confirmed coronavirus cases among patients as of Friday, and four inpatient deaths. "Currently every health care system is taking steps to conserve PPE. VA is no different," Hodge wrote in a series of responses by email to questions. Hodge also said that the hospital is issuing surgical masks to all staff who work in non-COVID-19 units. "Those staff are provided one surgical mask weekly to assist in protecting high-risk patients who are asymptomatic," he wrote. (Richmond Times-Dispatch)

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I'm not surprised by the numbers. Richmond, itself, is a virus hot spot although that is mostly due to several deadly assisted living/nursing home outbreaks. What shocks me is the PPE situation. The fact that nurses have to treat known Covid-19 patients with hospital masks rather than the N95 respirators is only moderately better than third world conditions in my view. Hospital masks offer the wearer no protection against the aerosolized virus. If the patients were wearing those masks, it would be more helpful than the nurses wearing them.

Here's a tip. If you can still smell odors like onions or bacon while wearing the mask, the aerosolized virus can get into your lungs. Hospital masks and other improvised masks protect those around the wearer, not the mask wearer. The concept behind the universal wearing of such masks is mutual protection. For any of you who spent time in the infantry, it's the same concept behind the DePuy fighting positions where you are not defending yourself. You are forming interlocking fields of fire to protect your comrades to the left and right of you. Protecting those around you actually provides the best protection for all of you. We wear masks in grocery stores and other such places to protect the entire community, not just our own sorry asses.

But back to the situation at McGuire. In the early days of the pandemic in America, the hospital instituted a screening program at the hospital entrances consisting of temperature and health interview. We were told to expect delays and to be given a mask for wear in the hospital. Not long after that, we were called to reschedule our appointments to May or beyond. By mid-April, this was the COVID-19 testing situation.

Since the number of COVID-19 tests are limited nationwide, there is no COVID-19 testing capability at our CBOC locations. Please call your provider to determine whether you would be a candidate for testing. If so, then you may proceed to the Hunter Holmes McGuire VA Medical Center in Richmond, Virginia where Monday – Friday, 8:30 a.m. – 1:00 p.m., a Drive-Thru Clinic is available for screening and testing (if you need it); you will be triaged according to your symptoms. Also, Monday – Friday, 8:00 a.m. – 4:00 p.m., you may be directed to be seen in the medical center's High Consequence Infections (HCI) Clinic. Last, depending on your symptoms, you may go to the hospital's Emergency Department or to an Urgent Care Center or Emergency Department in your area.

McGuire seems to have had all its ducks in a row. It's what I expect. This VA medical center is well run. The professionalism, pride and morale among the staff is astoundingly high. It shows among us broke down old vets who show up for care. We are proud of McGuire. That this fine facility is now forced to ration out PPE to its staff is a travesty. The VA dropped the ball. The federal government dropped the ball for several administrations. PPE should have been stockpiled at all levels and those stockpiles should have been replenished by a push logistics system.

That's the long term screw up. In the more immediate term, the federal government should have been acquiring that PPE and forcing industry to massively produce supplies back in January. Trump should have invoked and used the Defense Production Act robustly in January rather than waiting until March and April to weakly wield that executive authority. Every hospital and every first responder should have had all the PPE needed. Every household could have been sent a dozen disposable masks with a note from President Trump telling us to keep these in case we need them. What a galvanizing message that would have sent across the nation. Even if Covid-19 proved to be a non-problem, it would have been a message of Churchillian defiance in the face of a potential threat. A missed opportunity for both the American people and Trump.

TTG

https://www.richmond.com/special-report/coronavirus/at-mcguire-va-hospital-in-richmond-nurses-fear-the-masks-they-wear-dont-protect-them/article_6da49ed3-84c7-52a6-b052-32ca3cd305b9.html?utm_source=RTD&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Breaking%20News


Terence Gore , 25 April 2020 at 01:16 PM

Sorry to read your post and hope everyone fares well. Many nursing homes may be in the same situation.

https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/uchicago-medicine-doctors-see-truly-remarkable-success-using-ventilator-alternatives-to-treat-covid19

"The proning and the high-flow nasal cannulas combined have brought patient oxygen levels from around 40% to 80% and 90%, so it's been fascinating and wonderful to see," Spiegel said."


Possibly positive news.

Pj20 , 25 April 2020 at 02:19 PM
It isn't just the VA, hospitals all over the country are short of PPE. And that is one of the problems with opening up the country too soon. Unprotected staff in suddenly flooded hospitals become ill themselves risking the viability of local health systems.
JoeC100 , 25 April 2020 at 04:57 PM
TTG -

I read a while back that the key supply chain issue with N-95 masks is that their essential core material is a synthetic spun fiber that we are completely reliant on China for sourcing. In addition. the machines that make this fiber are complex, quite expensive and there is no capability to quickly and significantly ramp up their production. Further they are challenging to set up and operate.

And for perspective, of the 200 million masks China currently makes a day, only 600,000 are N95 standard masks, used by medical personnel,

So yet another "essential supply chain" item for a critical health system need that simply can't be ramped up out of this air.

Hopefully some one in the Federal system is looking for all similar needs and working on a plan to facilitate onshore manufacturing.

Full (scary/sobering) details are at: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/16/814929294/covid-19-has-caused-a-shortage-of-face-masks-but-theyre-surprisingly-hard-to-mak

I see this as a long term "lack of US preparedness" problem vs. something that could have been easily addressed if the administration had moved a couple on months earlier..

JohninMK , 25 April 2020 at 05:02 PM
We have the same problems here in the UK. With people, mainly it seems like in the MSM, blaming the Government's leadership for the supply issues.

Ignoring totally the management of our respective national health organizations who knew, at the latest in mid January, that there was probably a nasty contagious problem coming down the tracks, that would, based on already clear Chinese actions, need more PPE than was on their shelves.

Bear in mind that, in the UK at least, hundreds of these NHS bureaucrats earn twice what a Government minister earns and a few twice the PM's salary. In both nations they have failed their people dismally, seemingly like rabbits trapped in the headlights. None will be punished of course for failure, they are just pleased that the Government steps up and takes the blame.

Then we have the academics and think tank personnel. All accepted as impartial and offering honest opinions based on state of the art models. Again the Governments take what they are offered as gospel and acts on it. Only to discover that the models are more of the garbage in garbage out variety, not fit for purpose. Then we find how much funding the impartial academics are receiving from potentially very interested parties, as there are $Bs at stake. In the UK there was a Pandemic 2016 exercise to check things out. Result everything in NHS under control. In the real world under four years later, a shambles. Did you have a similar last autumn?

The real heroes and heroines in this saga are the doctors, nurses and their support and ancillary staff who are actually at the sharp end. Many working in appallingly unsafe conditions. Hats off to them.

Bobo , 25 April 2020 at 07:01 PM
For 200 plus years our hospitals utilized laundries to cleanse their medical protection gear (PPE) until the advent of synthetic PPE. The present generation is taught to utilize the N95 mask and other gear once and then trash it. This was derived as a manner in reducing Sepsis and MRSA in hospitals and an effective one though those diseases are still present.
Our hearts went out to these young medical personnel without the plastic masks and gear as they were working outside of what they were taught and they were much more susceptible to the Covid-19.
Now we all saw every Chinaman walking around Wuhan with a N-95 mask in January and unfortunately those were our masks that were re-routed to the Chinese people. Hopefully we have now learned a very hard lesson that Just in Time Inventory does not work for medical diseases or viruses and that the USA needs to manufacture all PPE and medicine in the USA amongst other things.
Regarding the political implications I can only say that the guy in the hot seat made things happen when the chips were down something his predecessors nor his competitor had/have the ability to do in a timely manner. Coercion worked.
optimax , 25 April 2020 at 11:00 PM
Much of the federal stockpile of PPE sent to the states had passed their expire dates, 2010 for some, and was either useless or had to be repaired. I blame the failure on the person, or persons, charged with monitoring the wharehoused stockpiles. The president only knows what he's told. He can't micromanage the nation. He needs Jack Webb directing him to stick with the facts.

We have two groups of psychopaths vying for political power.

https://time.com/5815652/national-stockpile-medical-supplies-unusable/

elaine, 26 April 2020 at 12:58 AM

I read somewhere the V.A. ordered the masks but F.E.M.A expropriated them on the directions of Jared Kushner, who will later decide who receives the masks...something about the National Emergency Stockpile...what a mess.

[Apr 21, 2020] Biting critique of Fauci and other experts who insisted on full scale "containment measures" without any discrimination between vulnerable groups and vulnerable states

Apr 21, 2020 | www.lewrockwell.com

It is becoming clearer with each passing day that the death toll from the Wuhan virus is not rising exponentially as the "experts" predicted but only modestly in some places while levelling off or even declining almost everywhere else in the country -- as well as the world . The incidence of infection borders on nil in the hot and humid countries, where the number of deaths remains in the double or very low triple digits four months after the virus emerged from the Wuhan province of China.

Common sense alone indicates that the number of deaths will ultimately be nowhere near the 2 million without "mitigation" or a best case 100,000 to 240,000 with "mitigation" as predicted by "Tony and Deborah" at the White House press briefings that have fueled nationwide panic. Tony and Deb have since revised their "models" downward to predict 40,000 to 178,000 deaths. And that prediction has already been lowered again as the IMHE model Tony and Deb have been touting during the briefings now "predicts" 81,766 deaths by August 4. That prediction would require some 18,000 people to die every month between now and then, even though at 10,000 deaths since February 29 -- a number consistent with a heavy flu season -- we appear to have reached the peak and a decline is already evident .

At some point, Tony and Deb will be "predicting" precisely what has already happened, as we saw with the "models" that first predicted Hillary Clinton was certain to win the Presidency. And when the final death toll fails even to approach what they first predicted in order to panic the whole country into a nationwide lockdown never before seen in human history, they will make the unprovable, non-falsifiable, junk science claim that "mitigation worked."

But it is becoming increasingly clear that "mitigation" has done nothing but cause a pointless, catastrophic disruption of social and economic life. This seems to delight the lying media and their Democrat partners, who are striving to keep fear alive, avoid or minimize any good news about the numbers, overstate the burden on local hospitals (without any unedited video or other reliable evidence), argue against curative treatment by hydroxychloroquine or otherwise, get everybody into masks after months of "expert" advice that masks are ineffective, and generally prolong the economic damage and loss of civil liberties for months to come.

As the actual numbers belie the pseudo-scientific prophecies of doom, however, the lockdown of America that began with Democrat governors and mayors now exhibits a curious and hardly coincidental fissure along party lines. As of today, nine states, all headed by Republican governors, refuse to join the lockdown regime and now provide embarrassing counterfactuals demonstrating that officially mandated lockdowns were never necessary and have probably made the situation worse by preventing the development of "herd immunity" to this virus, like all the others, from the normal interaction of large populations.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/lGC5sGdz4kg?wmode=transparent

The following are the nine states that have refused to impose lockdowns. All of them have minimal death tolls from the Wuhan virus, including the populous South Carolina, and five of them have not enacted even local lockdowns:

[Data as of this writing on April 6 at 9 p.m.]

Gov. Asa Hutchinson of Arkansas told the Fake News New York Times what we have been saying on these pages since the stupid lockdowns began: "the typical stay-at-home order was a misleading 'illusion' because it includes so many exemptions allowing people to go out in public, such as for groceries or exercise ordering people to stay at home would simply leave thousands jobless."

The Times demands to know why these nine states have seceded from the United States of Mitigation: "Holdout States Resist Calls for Stay-at-Home Orders: 'What Are You Waiting For?' screams the indignant headline. Editorial desperation leaps from the page, for the Fake News combine as a whole knows that these nine Republican-led holdout states are all counterfactual to the panic narrative, and that what they are waiting for is the rest of the country to discover that they have been had by the cheerleaders of "mitigation," who live in luxury and job security while the masses suffer. First and foremost, Deb and Tony, intimate associates of Bill Gates, whose "models" keep lowering predictions to catch up with the growing embarrassment of the real numbers.

Another embarrassing counterfactual is the Commonwealth of Virginia, now being suffocated by Democrat Governor Ralph ("Infanticide") Northam's absurd executive orders, which have ruined the state's economy while attempting to place its entire population under a fake quarantine that does nothing but create instant unemployment and bankruptcy. The Northam lockdown will remain in effect until June 10 unless Northam calculates he cannot get away with prolonging his virus-themed dictatorship past Trump's new control date of April 30. Yet, as of the week of March 28, the Virginia Department of Health "has received report of 1,352 pneumonia and influenza-associated deaths," including five pediatric deaths, during the 2019-20 flu season, while purported deaths from the Wuhan virus and related pneumonia stand at 54 as of today at 9 p.m., with no pediatric deaths.

Based on the example of Virginia alone, which provides an all-but-irrefutable counterfactual, it is time to call this fiasco what it is: Coronagate. In my view, Coronagate will go down as the single biggest fraud in the fraud-ridden history of American politics -- outside of the fraudulent inducement of America's belated entry into World War I, which sacrificed 116,000 American lives to an epochal disaster that destroyed the last remnants of Christendom, guaranteed World War II, and led to the rise of the Third Reich and the Soviet Union.

Meanwhile, the White House press briefings have devolved into a black comedy with the same script every day: Trump recites a litany of statistics on the number of COVID-19 tests performed, the mass production and distribution of ventilators and N95 respirators, surgical masks, surgical gowns and surgical gloves; praises the captains of industry for pitching in with massive contributions of product; and lauds the branches of the military for their massive logistical operations, including the building of entire hospitals that remain almost empty.

Pence then delivers another sermon on how to "slow the spread in 30 days." Then Deb drones on about her ever-evolving models, followed by a very hoarse Tony, who croaks the same statements he made the day before about "the curve" and "mitigation, mitigation, mitigation" while assiduously avoiding any suggestion that the "pandemic" could be over any time soon or that there could be any proven effective treatment.

Then it's the media jackals' turn. Day after day these morons jabber at Trump with accusations disguised as questions: Why has governor so-and-so or such-and-such hospital not received enough test kits/ventilators/masks/gowns/gloves/breath mints?

... ... ...

At today's briefing, one reporter attempted to elicit from Fauci a declaration that, no matter what Trump might think, America cannot "return to normal" without a vaccine whose development is, conveniently enough for the media-DNC complex, at least a year away. Fauci's meandering response was a dog whistle that, if he has anything to say about it, the country will remain under some level of lockdown until there is a largely ineffective or even harmful vaccine, like the one he advocated for the swine flu of 2009.

The Fake News media are laboring to elevate Fauci, a star in the Leftist galaxy whose center is Bill Gates, to the status of Recovery Czar whose "medical opinion" will determine the fate of the nation

[Apr 20, 2020] NYC vs Singapore: Discipline, competence and sound management do matter

Apr 20, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

hopehely , Apr 19 2020 18:19 utc | 54

Posted by: vk | Apr 19 2020 17:49 utc | 53
NY has 8.4 million inhabitants - in an 302.6 square miles area.

Singapore has 5.6 million inhabitants in 280.2 square miles area.
Discipline, competence and sound management do matter.

[Apr 20, 2020] Trump's cuts to the WHO are self-serving, but he also has a point WHO has become a bloated bureaucracy riddled with politickin

Apr 20, 2020 | www.rt.com

The US is the biggest funder of the World Health Organization and his announcement drew widespread criticism. Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, whose foundation was the second-biggest funder of the WHO in 2018-19, called the decision " as dangerous as it sounds ."

Halting funding for the World Health Organization during a world health crisis is as dangerous as it sounds. Their work is slowing the spread of COVID-19 and if that work is stopped no other organization can replace them. The world needs @WHO now more than ever.

-- Bill Gates (@BillGates) April 15, 2020

Trump also faces a battle with Congress, which is actually responsible for allocating funding. I'm not a fan of Trump, but to some extent he has a point.

There have been plenty of critics of the WHO's handling of the outbreak. The organization's initial response is now seen as far too accepting of the official Chinese government line in the first few weeks. In particular, a single social media message has come back to haunt it. On January 14, the organization said on Twitter: " Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China. "

Defenders of the WHO point to guidance sent to governments on January 10 and 11, outlining the way the virus spreads and asking health officials to be alert to any 'evidence of amplified or sustained human-to-human transmission.' Those WHO supporters also note that Trump himself had tweeted support for Beijing's handling of the situation in the early days of the outbreak. For many observers, Trump's attacks on the WHO are self-serving, designed to deflect criticism away from his initially slow and skeptical response to what he calls the "Chinese virus."

While the WHO was perhaps too slow on the uptake, we should be wary of critics' implication that it should be given the job of policing national governments. For now, the WHO is in an awkward position of having to deal with the politics of different member countries while responding to health emergencies. Moreover, the WHO 'cried wolf' over the 2009 swine flu pandemic. The WHO's director general at the time, Margaret Chan, famously said " All of humanity is under threat " from the outbreak, but it proved to be far less deadly than feared. A bit more caution over the new coronavirus was probably sensible.

[Apr 20, 2020] What If the Lockdown Was All A Big Mistake by Ron Paul

Goldman Sachs predicts that the economy will shrink 34 percent in the second quarter, with unemployment leaping to 15 percent.
Notable quotes:
"... Across the US, millions of businesses have been shut down by "executive order" and the unemployment rate has skyrocketed to levels not seen since the Great Depression. ..."
"... What if the "cure" is worse than the disease? ..."
Apr 20, 2020 | ronpaulinstitute.org

From California to New Jersey, Americans are protesting in the streets. They are demanding an end to house arrest orders given by government officials over a virus outbreak that even according to the latest US government numbers will claim fewer lives than the seasonal flu outbreak of 2017-2018.

Across the US, millions of businesses have been shut down by "executive order" and the unemployment rate has skyrocketed to levels not seen since the Great Depression. Americans, who have seen their real wages decline thanks to Federal Reserve monetary malpractice, are finding themselves thrust into poverty and standing in breadlines. It is like a horror movie, but it's real.

Last week the UN Secretary General warned that a global recession resulting from the worldwide coronavirus lockdown could cause "hundreds of thousands of additional child deaths per year." As of this writing, less than 170,000 have been reported to have died from the coronavirus worldwide.

Many Americans have also died this past month because they were not able to get the medical care they needed. Cancer treatments have been indefinitely postponed. Life-saving surgeries have been put off to make room for coronavirus cases. Meanwhile hospitals are laying off thousands because the expected coronavirus cases have not come and the hospitals are partially empty.

What if the "cure" is worse than the disease?

[Apr 19, 2020] Prophet: in 2017 Anthony S. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said there is "no doubt" Donald J. Trump will be confronted with a surprise infectious disease outbreak during his presidency

This prophecy does not correlate well with his complete inability to predict how coronavirus epidemic unfolded in the USA and blunders around the road along with sleeping for two months after China informed the WHO about new coronavirus.
Fauci is a pretty sinister, not so much comical figure is we remembers his role in Gain of Function experiments proliferation
Apr 19, 2020 | www.unz.com

Linh Dinh , says: Website Show Comment April 13, 2020 at 7:20 pm GMT

@Alfa158 Fauci: 'No doubt' Trump will face surprise infectious disease outbreak

healio.com , January 11, 2017

Anthony S. Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said there is "no doubt" Donald J. Trump will be confronted with a surprise infectious disease outbreak during his presidency.

Fauci has led the NIAID for more than 3 decades, advising the past five United States presidents on global health threats from the early days of the AIDS epidemic in the 1980s through to the current Zika virus outbreak.

During a forum on pandemic preparedness at Georgetown University, Fauci said the Trump administration will not only be challenged by ongoing global health threats such as influenza and HIV, but also a surprise disease outbreak.

"The history of the last 32 years that I have been the director of the NIAID will tell the next administration that there is no doubt they will be faced with the challenges their predecessors were faced with," he said.

While observers have speculated since his election about how Trump will respond to such challenges, Fauci and other health experts said Tuesday that preventing disease pandemics often starts overseas and that a proper response means collaboration between not only the U.S. and other countries, but also the public and private health sectors.

"We will definitely get surprised in the next few years," he said. 'Risks have never been higher'

Trump, the real estate developer-turned-Republican politician, has worried some infectious disease experts with controversial and sometimes unclear views on certain health issues.

Ronald Klain, who coordinated the U.S.'s Ebola response for the Obama administration, said Trump's virtual silence about the Zika outbreak and harsh comments about American volunteers infected during the West African Ebola outbreak is "not the kind of leadership we need in our next president."

Experts speculated about the infectious disease threats Donald Trump will face as president.

"It's hard to think of a more important time to show a willingness to speak out in the public health community and the global health community than it is right now on the eve of Donald Trump becoming our next president," Klain said. "The risks have never been higher, and the question of his perspective on these issues has never been more dubious than it is with Donald Trump."

Fauci and others noted some of the disease outbreaks that recent administrations have faced, including current President Barack Obama, whose administration was tested early on with an H1N1 influenza pandemic in 2009. More recently, the administration was forced to repurpose almost $600 million in federal funds set aside for the Ebola outbreak when Republicans rejected Obama's request for $1.9 billion to fund the nation's Zika response.

Current Deputy Homeland Security Advisor Amy Pope, JD, said it was "typical" of the U.S. government that money meant for the Ebola epidemic was appropriated for Zika because of the proclivity of populations to worry about what is currently threatening them.

"We shouldn't ask the American public to make those choices in the future," she said. "It doesn't keep them safe."

Klain said pandemic preparedness should be approached from a nonpartisan angle. A Democrat, he referenced Republican President George W. Bush founding the U.S. President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), and said Republican Senators Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham collaborated with the Obama administration on the Ebola response.

"The mosquitoes don't know if they're biting Democrats or Republicans," Klain said. "They don't know what party you are."

Other highlights

According to some of the experts who spoke on Tuesday, preparing the U.S. for pandemics requires proper funding and starts by battling disease outbreaks overseas. This is not just the right thing to do, but the best way to keep Americans safe, Klain said.

"There is no safety for us and our populace when infectious diseases rage," he said. "The only way the American people can have safety and security in their lives is to promote safety and security around the world."

Some other highlights from the forum:

Hamid Jafari, MD, acting director of the Division of Global Health Protection at the CDC, said the CDC has been productive during past presidential transitions and expects the same will be true as control of the White House passes from Obama to Trump: "We have room for optimism that there will be continuing support," he said.

Pope said there is no playbook for fighting emerging infectious diseases: "We never know what's going to hit us, so we need to be prepared as possible," she said.

According to Pope, some in the health community are wary about working with the security community because they think it will be detrimental to their work, when the opposite is true: "Marrying these communities actually leads to more resources and more attention," she said.

Bill Steiger, PhD, chief program officer of Pink Ribbon Red Ribbon and former director of the HHS Office of Global Health Affairs, said his first piece of advice for the incoming administration would be to budget time for HHS to focus on things other than domestic health issues, because a larger problem is inevitable: "Some international global health crisis will happen that will divert that attention. It has happened over and over again," he said.

Steiger said the global health agenda, including programs like PEPFAR, is an "easy win" for the new administration: "Expand the funding if available, but at a minimum keep it going," he said.

Fauci said he is in favor of a public health emergency fund that would be used to combat outbreaks like those involving Ebola and Zika: "It's tough to get it but we need it. What we had to go through with Zika was very, very painful when the president asked for $1.9 billion in February and we didn't get [funding] until September."

Near the end, Fauci speculated about the possibility that there will be a resurgence of Zika this summer. The virus has caused many travel-related cases in the U.S. and some locally acquired cases in Florida and Texas. Fauci said other concerns for the Trump administration include the potential for a new influenza pandemic and outbreaks of diseases that are not yet on anyone's radar.

"What about the things we are not even thinking about?" he said. "No matter what, history has told us definitively that [outbreaks] will happen because [facing] infectious diseases is a perpetual challenge. It is not going to go away. The thing we're extraordinarily confident about is that we're going to see this in the next few years." – by Gerard Gallagher

Disclosures: Fauci, Jafari and Pope report no relevant financial disclosures. Infectious Disease News was unable to confirm relevant financial disclosures for Klain and Steiger at the time of publication.

[Apr 19, 2020] This old idiot Fauci

Apr 19, 2020 | twitter.com

MARK SIMONE ‏ 5:50 PM - 18 Apr 2020

Don't blame FOX, Mr. Fake News CNN. On March 9th, Dr. Anthony Fauci recommended taking a cruise, telling Forbes Magazine that if you're healthy, cruise ships are safe: https://www. forbes.com/sites/douggoll an/2020/03/09/fauci-says-cruising-is-ok-if-you-are-healthy/amp/ https:// twitter.com/oliverdarcy/st atus/1251615953978306564

[Apr 19, 2020] Bickering between two major parties: Trump slams 'rude nasty' Dems admitting Covid-19 cooperation bad between parties

Don't shoot the piano player...
Notable quotes:
"... "No matter what you do for the Do Nothing Democrats, no matter how GREAT a job you are doing, they will only respond to their Fake partners in the Lamestream Media in the negative, even in a time of crisis," ..."
"... "rude and nasty" ..."
"... "He gave them everything that they would have wanted to hear in terms of gaining ground on the CoronaVirus, but nothing that anyone could have said, including 'it's over,' could have made them happy," ..."
"... "They were RUDE and NASTY. This is their political playbook, and they will use it right up to the election on November 3rd," ..."
"... "America will not be fooled!!!" ..."
"... "never been so mad about a phone call" ..."
"... "the administration still doesn't have a plan to track daily testing capacity in every lab in the country, publicly release that data, and put forward a plan and timeline for identifying gaps." ..."
Apr 19, 2020 | www.rt.com

Donald Trump slammed Democrats for a "rude and nasty" phone call with the vice president over the Covid-19 pandemic, and theorized nothing will satisfy them as they try to "fool" America in November's election.

"No matter what you do for the Do Nothing Democrats, no matter how GREAT a job you are doing, they will only respond to their Fake partners in the Lamestream Media in the negative, even in a time of crisis," Trump tweeted on Saturday.

He added that his working relationship with Democrats during the Covid-19 pandemic has been "even worse" than before and revealed senators held a "rude and nasty" conference call with Vice President Mike Pence, who heads the White House Coronavirus Task Force, on Friday where little progress was made.

"He gave them everything that they would have wanted to hear in terms of gaining ground on the CoronaVirus, but nothing that anyone could have said, including 'it's over,' could have made them happy," the president vented.

"They were RUDE and NASTY. This is their political playbook, and they will use it right up to the election on November 3rd," he continued, adding that "America will not be fooled!!!"

No matter what you do for the Do Nothing Democrats, no matter how GREAT a job you are doing, they will only respond to their Fake partners in the Lamestream Media in the negative, even in a time of crisis. I thought it would be different, but it's not. In fact, it's even worse...

-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 18, 2020

....them happy, or even a little bit satisfied. They were RUDE and NASTY. This is their political playbook, and they will use it right up to the election on November 3rd. They will not change because they feel that this is the only way they can win. America will not be fooled!!!

-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 18, 2020

Some lawmakers have expressed just as much animosity over the talk as the president. Maine Sen. Angus King (I) said he has "never been so mad about a phone call" in his life.

A point of contention appears to be Trump's desire to begin rolling back stay-at-home orders and reopening the US economy next month, while many Democrats insist more Covid-19 testing must be done first.

Also on rt.com 'We're being held hostage!' Minnesota governor eases coronavirus lockdown after angry outcry from #ReopenMN protesters

Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-New Hampshire) tweeted after the call that she is concerned "the administration still doesn't have a plan to track daily testing capacity in every lab in the country, publicly release that data, and put forward a plan and timeline for identifying gaps."

Various governors, such as New York's Andrew Cuomo, continue to insist more thorough testing and tracing of the virus is needed before they consider reopening their states and easing back lockdown orders, while places like Texas, Minnesota, and Florida have already begun dropping restrictions as more and more citizens take to demonstrating and protesting against the measures.

Also on rt.com 'Fire Fauci, let us work': No social distancing as Alex Jones joins hundreds in rally against Covid-19 lockdown measures in Texas

[Apr 19, 2020] The coronavirus crisis has exposed the relative merits of nations, so the entire world can see, for example, how broken and corrupt the US is, with no leadership to speak of

Level of mismanaging of epidemic in Trump administration is staggering. Initially they ignored it, but then switch to full panic mode facilitated by such questionable experts as Fauci. Panic reaction with "one size fits all" quarantine measures created record unemployment.
BTW NIH fiscal year 2020 budget totals $41.6 billion.
The fact that Fauci did nothing to protect NY metropolitan areas means that he is incompetent to hold this position.
Apr 19, 2020 | www.washingtonpost.com

More than a dozen U.S. researchers, physicians and public health experts, many of them from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, were working full time at the Geneva headquarters of the World Health Organization as the novel coronavirus emerged late last year and transmitted real-time information about its discovery and spread in China to the Trump administration, according to U.S. and international officials.

A number of CDC staffers are regularly detailed to work at WHO in Geneva as part of a rotation that has operated for years. Senior Trump-appointed health officials also consulted regularly at the highest levels with the WHO as the crisis unfolded, the officials said.

The presence of so many U.S. officials undercuts President Trump's charge that the WHO's failure to communicate the extent of the threat, born of a desire to protect China, is largely responsible for the rapid spread of the virus in the United States.

Saggy April 19, 2020 at 1:54 pm GMT

What a great paragaph – summary ..

There is hope. The coronavirus crisis has exposed the relative merits of nations, so the entire world can see, for example, how broken and corrupt the US is, with no leadership to speak of. Dawdling, it failed to prevent needless deaths, then shut down much of the country, bankrupting thousands of businesses and throwing millions out of work. As a fix, it throws mere crumbs at desperate citizens, while bailing out the big banks, again.

[Apr 19, 2020] Fire Fauci, let us work

Notable quotes:
"... "fascist Fauci," ..."
"... "Do you think Anthony Fauci should be fired?" ..."
"... "Fire Fauci." ..."
Apr 19, 2020 | www.rt.com

Texans flocked to the state's Capitol in Austin to protest Covid-19 lockdown measures, refusing to practice social distancing and cheering for Dr. Anthony Fauci to be fired by President Donald Trump. In attendance at Saturday's 'You Can't Close America' Rally were InfoWars founder Alex Jones and host Owen Shroyer, who led the crowd of some 200 people in chants against the mainstream media and officials like Fauci.

Shroyer, who referred to the doctor as "fascist Fauci," asked the crowd: "Do you think Anthony Fauci should be fired?" , before leading them in chants of "Fire Fauci."

[Apr 18, 2020] I did get an impression while reading the article that the CDC had its arms twisted to grant re-accreditation to the facility due to pressure from the White House

Apr 18, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Jen , Apr 18 2020 21:40 utc | 65

Peter AU 1 @ 46, James @ 52:

Parts of that Wired.com story read like a stenographed PR release so I am not sure really what to make of it. The story seems to make light of the safety breaches that were occurring at the Fort Detrick lab. While it is likely that most breaches (apart from the waste disposal issue and the use of chemical rather than thermal treatment of waste) appeared to be minor OHS-type breaches and appropriate staff training was all that was required, I did get an impression while reading the article that the CDC had its arms twisted to grant re-accreditation to the facility due to pressure from the White House to get a vaccine ready in time before November this year.

Bemildred , Apr 18 2020 21:43 utc | 66

Some interesting bits:

Coronavirus testing delayed by contamination at US government lab, report says

Cheap gas is back:

How much is gas? Prices continue to drop due to coronavirus. Here's where gas is selling for under $1.

[Apr 17, 2020] Ranting In A Time Of Plague by Michael Brenner

Notable quotes:
"... FEMA and Homeland Security are but the most glaring example of departments stocked with hacks capable only of crippling the organizations that they are supposed to direct. They even corrupted the Center for Disease Control. ..."
"... The readiness of executives to do anything necessary to protect against exposure of their own failures or illicit actions has become commonplace within our institutions. ..."
"... As to the Crozier scandal, let's be clear: it is not a matter of ethics alone, but also of ability to meet critical obligations. ..."
"... Naval Secretary Thomas Motly – who missed his calling as a political commissar in the old Red Army, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Miley and Chief of Naval Operations Mike Gilday who both are testament to the Peter Principle that determines promotion in today's military. ..."
"... An [neoliberal] "oligarchy" has no interest in the long-term prosperity and strength of the nation - or perhaps, they simply have no faith in it. They are motivated to strip-mine the nation of all wealth while it lasts, because if they don't someone else will. They can live in walled compounds and go to private doctors, and if it all falls apart they can just gather up their loot and sail away on their yachts. ..."
"... After all the agony and hysteria surrounding the election of Trump for 3 years, they will nominate an elderly warmonger with obvious signs of dementia, who can't seem to keep his hands off women in a creepy fashion - as the alternative. It's as if there was a contest on how extreme a "lesser of two evils" can get. Tack on Covid and financial ruin. It's astounding. ..."
"... Come this epidemic and what do we see? What we see is that at least the UK government, the US government and the Canadian government were lying. It is quite clear that they were NOT expecting to be attacked. How do I know they were not expecting to be attacked? They had NO stores of hand sanitizer, NO stores of masks, NO goggles, NO stores of PPE, No factories for making any of them. NO troops of Bio/Chem warfare soldiers ready to spring into action and NO PLANS, as far as I can see. Are we to assume that if they were attacked by, say, the Russians, they were going to rely on the Chinese to supply them? (Sarcasm!) ..."
"... Lol. Trump has under 4 years working for the federal gov. It isn't his system. It is the typical repugs and dingbats system. He is an idiot for leaving his cushy life to join these idiots. It certainly doesn't speak well of his judgement. The people who work there and the people he has hired... Pompeo, Bolton, Esper, etc have worked there for decades. Bolton is an especially rotten character that seems to just keep popping up. ..."
"... i would like to emphasize a key point you make - accountability, and how there is none.. that to me is the number uno issue in the world today and it is very stark with regard to the usa - accountability... of course obama kicked that concept down the road too... no accountability.. it sucks big time.. we need it desperately... ..."
"... Okay... he's not a psychoapath, Don. I'll settle malignant sociopathic narcissist, which means by definition and demonstration that he would not know empathy were it to leap up and smack him in the face. Liar? We can soften that too. He is a serial fantasists living in the worlds he creates and like a spoiled child demands, raging when his wishes are not instantly gratified. ..."
"... When I was young I was always looking up for US, don't know why, maybe I have been fascinated by a culture, lifestyle, innovations.. when I got older and started to read about what actually happens in the world, I realized that US is not what it seemed to be anymore and I think its just getting worse.. ..."
"... Basically, no matter if is there Trump, Obama, Bush, Biden, Hillary or Easter Bunny.. your government to its core is really sick.. ..."
"... Everytime i read about decision US made, how is profit driven at expense of regular people, its a disgrace.. and more and more people in the world can see it.. just Trump himself exposed more the whole thing, chaotic, selfish, rude and arrogant government, not ashamed of anything. ..."
Apr 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED?

Collective tragedy is always a learning experience. So it has been for great wars, natural disasters, economic collapses, political revolutions. The COVID-19 pandemic is such a tragedy. Although the number of casualties may pale compared to the carnage of war, there are ancillary effects that leave us shocked and sobered. Most obviously, there is sudden onset of a severe economic depression with attendant social distress whose toll we will be registering for years to come. Then, there is the exposure of how incompetent our public institutions have become – the callous inhumanity of those who rule in Washington matched only by their clownish ineptitude. It is in the realm of these latter intangibles that we should look first for morals and lessons.

Overriding all else is the spectacle of a President, duly elected by the American people, who is a malicious psychopath with not a single redeeming trait. A physical, intellectual and emotional spectre who would defy our imaginative powers were he not on display before our eyes. He has gathered around him a witch's coven of scoundrels, crooks and crackpots as bereft of mind and ethics as he is. They also are inveterate liars; Trump himself is a congenital liar since clinical narcissism is inborn. Yet, we refer to this motley assemblage as an 'administration' – in our impulse to 'normalize' the abominable. No dry bill of particulars is necessary, nor could it do justice, to the squalid theater we see played out before us on a daily basis. This man, at this moment, is viewed favorably by 46% of the public. That reality eclipses everything else.

There is no organized opposition worthy of the name. This is the second great failure of our democracy. The Democratic Party creaks under the weight of geriatric nominal leaders – plodding along without conviction, without will, without the integrity to free itself from the monied interests and the self-serving careerists who have dragged it into the mire. Yes, they may succeed, come November, in sparing the Republic the coup de grace of four more Trumpian years. This despite their suicidal instinct in choosing Joe Biden to bear the standard – a man barely robust enough to keep the banner from dragging in the dust on his slog along the campaign trail. This bunch can't even get themselves to a microphone for a news clip at a time of historic crisis aggravated by the atrocious sins of the existing government. Surely, a first. Worried about Covid-19 contagion? Order a box of alcohol wipes from China. Instead, Biden makes a call to Trump for what both agree was a 'nice conversation.' What does that get him?

Cuomo has to placate Trump with soothing words – even at the expense of lying about how much aid New York actually received from Washington – since the lives of his people are at stake. For Biden, the opposite is true; avoiding soothing words is crucial since the November election is dependent on undercutting Trump and discrediting him.

Three, the United States is a poorly governed country. Manifest ineptitude in performing collective functions is by no means limited to Washington under Trump. It has become a feature of the institutional landscape. True, the Trumpites have launched a dedicated campaign to realize the anti-government fanatics' wet dream of disabling all public agencies. FEMA and Homeland Security are but the most glaring example of departments stocked with hacks capable only of crippling the organizations that they are supposed to direct. They even corrupted the Center for Disease Control. Its leaders, evidently eager to curry favor with the madman in the Oval Office, gave its stamp of approval to the unproven – and dangerous drug HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE that Trump's been promoting as the Silver Bullet to cure Covid-19. (April 4-6) Luckily, saner heads prevailed, or a conscience was pricked, and these panting spaniels withdrew the recommendation from their website.

... ... ...

At local levels, just look at the condition of infrastructure, of pension funds – of public health. The extremity – and, frankly, the absurdity - of what's happening in the health sector is highlighted by what we see elsewhere in the world. Face masks, including ones that actually provide protection, are readily available throughout East Asia – and elsewhere. A personal anecdote: relatives in Tunisia are mailing me N95 masks which they purchased in their neighborhood pharmacies. Indeed, as of April 8, Tunisia had produced by their own resources, and distributed 30 million masks to a population of 11 million. The equivalent here would be 1 billion masks! (Minus the 1 million sent express to Israel by the Pentagon as a ritual gift of fealty.) In America, we are offered instructions on how to sew a (probably useless) mask out of discarded T-shirts. MAGA!! Hospital directors fire nurses who buy their own equipment out of concern that they will be upstaged and exposed as the callous, profit obsessed bozos they are. Yet, we blind ourselves to the realities of other nations – because to do so is embarrassing, because our so-called leaders are protecting their behinds, and because we compulsively retain our dogmatic faith in American superiority.*

The readiness of executives to do anything necessary to protect against exposure of their own failures or illicit actions has become commonplace within our institutions. The current Corona crisis puts that reality into the headlines – as with the despicable act of the Pentagon in dismissing summarily Captain Brett Crozier whose petition made known that his superiors were prepared to sacrifice his crew's lives to the imperative of hiding their own errors. Is this notion that 'anything goes except accountability' any different from Harvard's studied silence about its embrace of Jeffrey Epstein or its abrupt sacking of a professor who dared reveal that the President was sweeping under the academic rug rampant sexual abuses? We all have personal experience of similar stories.

As to the Crozier scandal, let's be clear: it is not a matter of ethics alone, but also of ability to meet critical obligations. In the event that the country found itself at war against a serious enemy, it is a dangerous liability to have in positions of command people like Secretary of Defense Mark Esper (hack lobbyist for Raytheon and the Aerospace Industries Association ), Naval Secretary Thomas Motly – who missed his calling as a political commissar in the old Red Army, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Miley and Chief of Naval Operations Mike Gilday who both are testament to the Peter Principle that determines promotion in today's military. They would either be washed out in the wake of gross failures, or continue to be albatrosses dragging out pointless missions like the 17 bemedaled but clueless U.S. generals who have proven so useless in Afghanistan. As it is, they seem unable to keep their warships from slamming into inanimate objects in placid waters.

Here are Motly's last remarks before riding off to join corporate boards: "The men and women of the Department of the Navy deserve a continuity of civilian leadership befitting our great Republic, and the decisive naval force that secures our way of life he acknowledged that he "lost situational awareness" during his address to the Roosevelt's crew." "There is no excuse, but perhaps a glimpse of understanding, and hopefully empathy. I am deeply sorry for some of the words and for how they spread across the media landscape like a wildfire." (The New York Times – ever twisting its hat with eyes averted in the presence of intimidating Presidential authority – features a long letter from Motly justifying his actions, 4/7. Only 3, 1 Republican, 2 Democrats, protested Crozier's mistreatment. Among the silent chorus were the 22/23 aspirants to the Democratic nomination who bored us stiff for fifteen months with their unceasing calls for "LEADERSHIP!" 'Profiles In Courage' is not a best-seller at the Capitol. Even Dr. Fauce doesn't have a copy.

Absence of accountability is incompatible with good governance. That is especially true in democracies where accountability is ultimately downwards. In a country like China, where accountability is primarily upward, the circle can be squared by the occasional resort to putting some miscreant up against the wall. We don't have that luxury. Here, it is only the weak, the indigent and the naïve who need fear punishment – of any kind. The powerful and well-connected worry less about a last cigarette than about their first.

In compiling a list of factors that have contributed to the drastic decline in the performance of American institutions, this parochialism figures prominently among them. We put up with levels of dereliction matched in the developed world only by Britain. Think of the debate over Medicare-for-All and like proposals. As alluded to in an earlier commentary, the best national medical insurance systems (as confirmed by the WHO and other independent bodies) are in Western Europe, Canada and Japan – France topping the list. Yet, their expenditure on those systems is only 2/3 of what we pay for our own ramshackle non-system. That fact is ignored. Instead, the political class agonizes over the specious issue of whether we can afford it. Joe Biden has pledged to veto any such plan on grounds that it would cost $35 trillion – or whatever number has floated into his fog-bound mind. This lethal combination of ignorance, dogmatism and fidelity to special interests has come to be a hallmark of how we approach government and the meeting of collective needs.

A full treatment of the several intertwined, mutually reinforcing elements that have led us along the path of decline is well beyond the limits of a brief commentary. A few, though, do deserve to be mentioned for what – one hopes – might be future reference. One is the 'privatization ' craze. It has become the preferred method for transferring public assets to private profiteers. The effects are degraded services, the loss of expertise in public bodies, the exploitation of workers and the abandonment of intelligent planning (ventilators anyone?). With the COVID-19 affair, we've reached the ultimate privatization: the Federal Reserve has hired BlackRock to conduct its operations on the bond market as the central component of its $4 trillion Quantitative Easing strategy (BlackRock itself being the dominant player on that market). The same effects have been produced by the swarm of hedge funds and private equity who are parasites feeding on the prostrate host that is the real economy and its dependents. American society celebrates, and empowers, these critters. Then there are the ' consultants ' – the locust hordes which our culture designates as vital contributors to the good works of government, of business, of universities, of charities, of sports teams, of hospitals, of failing marriages, of the US Army that puts guns in their hands. They, too, add to the toll on public competence and collective services.

Another anecdote: the city of Austin, Texas has hired a consulting firm to advise them on designs for a reconfiguration of the street that runs in front of the University of Texas. Should the sidewalks be 8' wide or 10' wide? Curbed or uncurbed? With bicycle racks or without? These matters evidently are beyond the competence of the city government, and of the University's 3,000 strong expert faculty.

'My Kingdom for a tape measure!' How about a 69-cent face mask?

*Consider this. During WW II, the Kaiser shipyard in Richmond, CA – along with its 17 counterparts - were able to construct 2,710 Liberty ships between 1941 and 1945 (an average of three ships every two days), In other words, it took each yard just twelve days to put a ship in the water. That was the work of Rosie the Riveter and her colleagues. Today, we struggle to produce a few thousand $1 face masks - much less reliable COVID-19 test kits. Of course, back then the country was led by responsible adults – not the bunch of clods and delinquents we're stuck with nowadays.

Posted by b on April 17, 2020 at 14:00 UTC | Permalink


Walter , Apr 17 2020 14:27 utc | 3
Well and artfully crafted rant. I wish all rants were are cogent!

The picture sketched? It seems to be a detailed description of.."collapse".

Wally thinks of the coyote and roadrunner...coyote runs off cliff, but falls only when he realizes that the ground has collapsed under himself.

For the moment...people, like 'b', are looking down...

What's next? QED

"film at 11" they used to say...

Jose Garcia , Apr 17 2020 14:29 utc | 5
If this virus is not a nasty flu, then what is it? A plague? Similar in effect as the Black Death? Had 2 members of my family and a dear friend catch this thing. 2 of them suffered just 3 days of a fluctuating fever and cold symptoms. After that it disappeared. Only one, my aunt, in her early seventies, had to be put on a respirator. But is recovering well. Is it worth it to bring our economy to absolute devastation, where good people lose everything, end up destitute, having to live in the streets, with no where to go? \

And rely on bureaucrats, our government, whether state or federal, Democrat or Republican or Socialist, for their daily bread? What about people with severe mental health, who need to be away from home, need a job to maintain their stability, now with no work or money, will fall off the deep end, even commit suicide because they have no where to turn? Is it worth it ? Everything we've been doing? Why in other periods in history, with similar diseases, nothing was shut down as profoundly as being done these days, and life went on? People did die, not to mock their passing. But it brings me back. If not a nasty flu, is it worth it?

Seward , Apr 17 2020 14:30 utc | 6
Agree with #1. Our leader, as imperfect as he is, as we all are, is the only leader we have. If he fails to lead us through this crisis, we all fail. IMHO aside from occasional politic-ing, answering charges of one kind or another against him, often the opposite from day to day (e.g. one day he's trying to control everything, now he's abandoned control to the overwhelmed governors), is doing an acceptable job, considering the problems he;'s facing.
M , Apr 17 2020 14:33 utc | 7
Hello,

Couldn't agree more with Don in comment 1, the newfound lust for censorship and evangelism for official right think found here is disappointing, this seems no longer to be a place to ask questions and seek truth sincerely.

Thank you and good bye,

M

Trisha , Apr 17 2020 14:40 utc | 8
What is now obvious has for a long time been concealed: the U.S. is not a democracy, there is no such thing as a "free market", capitalism has proved incapable of meeting the most basic needs during a crisis, there are no leaders accountable to anyone other than our ruling oligarchs, the U.S. is anything but a "bastion of freedom", and most other nations have plenty of justifiable reasons to hate the U.S.

The only question remaining is how long will folks in the U.S. hide from these truths and do nothing about them?

gm , Apr 17 2020 14:43 utc | 9
@ Don Wills | Apr 17 2020 14:14 utc | 1

I agree this is ridiculous. Trump may be a lot of things, but the last thing he would EVER want to do/happen in this election year where was cruising along home-free, is to have this horrible pandemic blow up in front of him.

Also, he would NEVER have taken along and risked his entire family on a useless state visit to India where all they did was attend meaningless photo-op events and watch Indian kids dance the Hindi cha-cha.

Not even his chief of staff Mike Mulvaney went alond (unheard-of for CoS to not accompany a potus on official state visits).

This tells me Trump was (kept?) in the dark about true depth of pandemic risk brewing.

TG , Apr 17 2020 14:44 utc | 10
A fine rant. Well said.

An honest economist (back in the day when there actually were still a few) once said that the key to a nation is whether it ruled by an establishment, or an oligarchy.

An "establishment" is old-money connected etc., but has some sense of ownership and duty. An establishment is willing to forgo short-term profits in favor of long-term strength, because they expect that they or their heirs will be around to have a piece of it. "Establishment" leaders would be FDR, Eisenhower, DeGaulle, Bismarck, Lee Kuan Yew...

An [neoliberal] "oligarchy" has no interest in the long-term prosperity and strength of the nation - or perhaps, they simply have no faith in it. They are motivated to strip-mine the nation of all wealth while it lasts, because if they don't someone else will. They can live in walled compounds and go to private doctors, and if it all falls apart they can just gather up their loot and sail away on their yachts.

bevin , Apr 17 2020 14:45 utc | 11
Very good. I particularly liked:" ..We put up with levels of dereliction matched in the developed world only by Britain..."

See below link for example https://www.rt.com/op-ed/486065-uk-care-homes-disregard/

As to Jose Garcia@5 any decent community would do all that it could to save the lives of its members.

krypton , Apr 17 2020 14:48 utc | 12

For Trump, Brenner can thank the silver-tongued Obama and his murderous secretary of state, both of whom are worst kind of liars - the kind that tell people what they want to hear while doing the opposite.
Eighthman , Apr 17 2020 14:59 utc | 14
Thank you for posting this. The US seems to be like coming to your home and finding Bigfoot seated in a living room chair - with no one expressing any surprise or even interest in his presence.

After all the agony and hysteria surrounding the election of Trump for 3 years, they will nominate an elderly warmonger with obvious signs of dementia, who can't seem to keep his hands off women in a creepy fashion - as the alternative. It's as if there was a contest on how extreme a "lesser of two evils" can get. Tack on Covid and financial ruin. It's astounding.

The only positives I can find are evidence that the elite aren't totally in control ( or there would be no Biden or Trump running) AND that the US is too big and dominant to collapse anytime soon - a sort of geo-political inertia. Same goes for the dollar, even if they turn it into high grade toilet paper.

Susan , Apr 17 2020 15:00 utc | 15
This is the first time I have commented on your site but read daily. This is one of the best reads I have seen. It defines the failure of the country so clearly, to bad Don was unable to hear the criticism of his fearless leader and move beyond it. This failure has long roots and the writer nails it. I remember a few years back sitting down with our commissioner and having her explain to us why they were getting nothing done. city and state moneys were lower and the federal government that had always provided grants no longer did. This was under Obummer.

The long strip mining of the US and the rest of the world by the elite should have made itself completely obvious under trump but I am beginning to think that we humans are no more than a plague upon the earth. We seem to be so intent on sticking to our team the Rs or Ds we are no different then sports fans, who's obsessed behavior and willingness to spend thousands to watch sports is mind boggling, when often the same people bitch about teachers pay.

Or during the healthcare debates I went to hear the town hall that my congressmen had. 2000 people showed up most screaming about Obama and free hand outs. The 2000 people where mostly over 65, and in this case military so all these people had theirs but didn't think their own kids or grandkids should have medical care.. what the hell! The Republican Party built the montra of evil government well and the Democratic Party used it the build up the pentagon to the point it takes over 70% of the discretionary budget, to slaughter people in 3rd world countries so we can strip mine them or threaten Russia and China . The virus shows one thing the elites have lots of money to build military stuff that they fleece , so what we have is crap. What the poor soldiers in this country are is fodder for the wealthy.

oglalla , Apr 17 2020 15:06 utc | 17
lol. - Some partisans mount a partisan defense of Trump. I didn't know such incredibly partisan dummies read MoA. You guys are more than welcome to leave.
foolisholdman , Apr 17 2020 15:11 utc | 18
Something occurred to me this afternoon.

Thinking about the Covid-19, it occurred to me that the governments of the UK, the USA, of Canada and probably many other countries that have had biological warfare labs have all said to their people "We have to do this research because the USSR, the Russians The Chinese, The North Koreans or thr Terrorists may use biological/chemical weapons against us and WE MUST BE PREPARED!!. If they were telling the truth they should have been well prepared as they have spent billions on this research. So, now we can see they were lying because, THERE WAS NO PREPARATION WHEN IT WAS NEEDED? Precisely NONE!

Come this epidemic and what do we see? What we see is that at least the UK government, the US government and the Canadian government were lying. It is quite clear that they were NOT expecting to be attacked. How do I know they were not expecting to be attacked? They had NO stores of hand sanitizer, NO stores of masks, NO goggles, NO stores of PPE, No factories for making any of them. NO troops of Bio/Chem warfare soldiers ready to spring into action and NO PLANS, as far as I can see. Are we to assume that if they were attacked by, say, the Russians, they were going to rely on the Chinese to supply them? (Sarcasm!)

The Chinese government which may or may not be developing biological weapons, (I have no way of knowing) obviously, was relatively well prepared. This is hardly surprising; as they think they have been under biological attack, on and off since the Korean war when they were so attacked. They had factories making the kit they needed and it took only days to ramp up production and get other factories to join in. They had medical troops who were trained and ready to take an important part in controlling the outbreak. They had plans that enabled them to build hospitals for mass intensive care in a matter of days and (I would imagine) plans to turn other structures into holding areas for less serious cases. It also looks as though they had either very versatile organizers or well laid plans for feeding and monitoring people under lock down.

Et Tu , Apr 17 2020 15:15 utc | 19
@ Don Wills,

You may understandably reject criticism to Your chosen party of faith, but i believe the essence of his message was not about partisanship, rather an honest appraisal of the current sad state of affairs, which, if you had bothered reading further, was just as scathing about Obama et al. as it was about your beloved Stable Genius.

I'm afraid your choice to not read further was a far stronger statement of partisanship than anything the author laid out. Your loss, and ours too.

Jackrabbit , Apr 17 2020 15:17 utc | 20
TPTB channel all dissatisfaction in USA into partisan politics where it can be managed, and ultimately dismissed or diffused.

This rant plays into that game. Only a genuine Movement for democracy (like Yellow Vests in France) will change anything.

!!

Bemildred , Apr 17 2020 15:22 utc | 21
Posted by: foolisholdman | Apr 17 2020 15:11 utc | 19

Yep, exactly. What they have is the CCP, an army that can be called on command, which thinks it's job is to govern, not just get paid extra. And legitimacy, the Chinese people accept their governing, mostly, because they try to do a good job. It's like all this unity bullshit they feed us here (see above), but it's real.

Goldhoarder , Apr 17 2020 15:24 utc | 22
Lol. Trump has under 4 years working for the federal gov. It isn't his system. It is the typical repugs and dingbats system. He is an idiot for leaving his cushy life to join these idiots. It certainly doesn't speak well of his judgement. The people who work there and the people he has hired... Pompeo, Bolton, Esper, etc have worked there for decades. Bolton is an especially rotten character that seems to just keep popping up.

If Trump did win another term I wouldnt be surprised to see him back. Remember when that nutjob from Israel that delights in murdering defenseless people came over and gave a speech to Congress? He received an enthusiastic standing ovation. What more needs to be investigated or discussed? It needs to fail and the people will have to suffer in order for more responsible leadership to emerge. The US has waged war on the people of Iraq for 30 fucking years.

Everytime the system is about to collapse from its own corruption they just create more money and threaten other countries with destruction if they attempt to divorce themselves from the IMF "global" economy. The idea that the empire exists to help the average citizen is insane and rather childish thinking. The empire exists to maintain power, control, and a dominant position. By the way... during all this crazyness has anybody bothered to follow what is going on with US/China trade? There was a much publicized 1st stage agreement over the easy issues but CNN warned it might collapse putting the global economy at severe risk. Has the US lost billions of dollars worth of economic inputs the last couple months? What is the USA going to look like if that continues? Without China propping up the US economy the US will have to rely on its own resources. As you mention the US cant produce N95 masks let alone coronavirus test kits. Testing might allow the powers that be to not feel frightened about coming into contact with the drooling masses. They might let us out of our cages so we can start foraging for food.

bevin , Apr 17 2020 15:31 utc | 24
Entirely predictable, (knee jerk motion, robotic) Jackrabbit@22.

Your real objection to this, extremely reasonable, statement:

" ...They even corrupted the Center for Disease Control. Its leaders, evidently eager to curry favor with the madman in the Oval Office, gave its stamp of approval to the unproven – and dangerous drug HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE that Trump's been promoting as the Silver Bullet to cure Covid-19. (April 4-6) Luckily, saner heads prevailed, or a conscience was pricked, and these panting spaniels withdrew the recommendation from their website..."

It is an indication of your general irresponsibility, also exemplified in your casual use of the internet to give, potentially dangerous, medical advice, that you pretend to be dissenting from Brenner because he critiques government. You imply that by doing so he is urging people to support one or other political party. In fact his is a comprehensive critique of the entire political system, whose purpose, for 230+ years has been to prevent the people from governing themselves.

It is a pity to see those tireless and sincere campaigners the Yellow Vests of France drafted into an argument for apathy and defeatism.

james , Apr 17 2020 15:39 utc | 26
thanks michael... i can apply some of these ideas directly to other countries.. i don't care for the usa centric world point view, but i am sure many readers will get into it.. i would like to emphasize a key point you make - accountability, and how there is none.. that to me is the number uno issue in the world today and it is very stark with regard to the usa - accountability... of course obama kicked that concept down the road too... no accountability.. it sucks big time.. we need it desperately...
John , Apr 17 2020 15:42 utc | 27
Okay... he's not a psychoapath, Don. I'll settle malignant sociopathic narcissist, which means by definition and demonstration that he would not know empathy were it to leap up and smack him in the face. Liar? We can soften that too. He is a serial fantasists living in the worlds he creates and like a spoiled child demands, raging when his wishes are not instantly gratified.

His dictatorial moments would be familiar to anyone who ever worked at his jumped up mom 'n pop real estate shop. His blustering, bullying, blaming, bragging, bloviating, and berating are on display each day now at the late afternoon campaign commercial live-from-the-White-House. He's all yours Don.

Martin , Apr 17 2020 15:54 utc | 30
Hey everyone.. not sure how to start

When I was young I was always looking up for US, don't know why, maybe I have been fascinated by a culture, lifestyle, innovations.. when I got older and started to read about what actually happens in the world, I realized that US is not what it seemed to be anymore and I think its just getting worse..

Im not speaking about regular people, of course not, they have worries, goes thru hardships in life, same as me here in Europe.. Basically, no matter if is there Trump, Obama, Bush, Biden, Hillary or Easter Bunny.. your government to its core is really sick..

Everytime i read about decision US made, how is profit driven at expense of regular people, its a disgrace.. and more and more people in the world can see it.. just Trump himself exposed more the whole thing, chaotic, selfish, rude and arrogant government, not ashamed of anything.

I wish you all.. you good and smart people of the US, to win this struggle, get back on track and have a better future, god bless you in your fight.

[Apr 17, 2020] The WHO provided validated working test kits on 16th of January. The USA botched the delopyment due to CDC incompetence and NIH syndrom

Highly recommended!
The USA government was paralyzed by Ukrainegate and impeachment in January.
Notable quotes:
"... Another factor was that any real measures against the virus were a huge blow to the neoliberal globalization and the USA as the central force that pushed neoliberal globalization was vary to implement them. ..."
"... Pentagon treatment of the USS Theodor Roosevelt epidemic was worse than incompetent because clearly, this was just the tip of the iceberg. Instead of looking into the core problem, they decided to find a scapegoat. Why they did not react as soon as problems on Diamond Princess surfaced are unclear to me. They failed even to provide masks. That's simply incredible. I think a bunch of perfumed princes of Pentagon needs to be fired. I wonder what is the situation on submarines. ..."
Apr 17, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com
Ulenspiegel | 17 April 2020 at 07:18 AM
The WHO provided validated working test kits on 16th of January.

Even if I am not happy with the Chinese policy overall, the main problem in most advanced western countries was and still is that the response of the governments are often poor:

  1. Not implementing a coherent communication strategy. It does not make sense when one minister tells that the virus situation is an real issue and another minister tell you at the same time that everything is not so bad.
  2. Downplaying the infection numbers for domestical political reasons. Complete lack of understanding of an exponential function or more precise the combination of an virus operating on an exponential function, while the own resources are more or less a constant.
  3. Too late start of testing, be it a result of faulty administrative structures, rooky mistakes during test kit development or combination of both.

Fighting a virus is like warfare on the operational level, you start with incomplete information, but have to make important decisions, time is a very important resource, lost time is almost impossible to regain.

likbez , 17 April 2020 at 12:22 PM

@Ulenspiegel | 17 April 2020 at 07:18 AM

Fighting a virus is like warfare on the operational level, you start with incomplete information, but have to make important decisions, time is a very important resource, lost time is almost impossible to regain.
Very true. But we should not forget the role of Pelosi in this mess: Trump administration was partially paralyzed in January by impeachment proceedings. She acted like the fifth column in this respect.

Another factor was that any real measures against the virus were a huge blow to the neoliberal globalization and the USA as the central force that pushed neoliberal globalization was vary to implement them.

IMHO, Trump demonstrated some level of courage by closing flights from China on Jan 31. I guess pressure to postpone this measure further was tremendous. But they missed the time, and it was too late.

3) Too late start of testing, be it a result of faulty administrative structures, rooky mistakes during test kit development, or a combination of both.
That's true, and the CDC needs to be investigated for this blunder. But also implementing social distancing measures and the obligatory wearing of masks in large cities was completely botched.

Retired persons can be quarantined without a major blow to the economy. And that should have been done first. The nursing homes are starkly vulnerable to the coronavirus. It was clear from the beginning. That means that the medical personnel in them need to be provided with full protection gear and isolated with patients. That was not done. On the contrary, they became hotspots that spread the disease.

Treatment of medical personnel, who along with patients in nursing homes are the most vulnerable category, was abysmal. No free hotel stay (for those without children), no special transportation and free meals were provided for them. Even basic protection equipment was absent in home hospitals until late March.

The USA did not have strategic storage of masks and, which is more important, equipment to make them and materials from which they are made. That was a big blunder for which previous administrations also share responsibility.

Pentagon treatment of the USS Theodor Roosevelt epidemic was worse than incompetent because clearly, this was just the tip of the iceberg. Instead of looking into the core problem, they decided to find a scapegoat. Why they did not react as soon as problems on Diamond Princess surfaced are unclear to me. They failed even to provide masks. That's simply incredible. I think a bunch of perfumed princes of Pentagon needs to be fired. I wonder what is the situation on submarines.

[Apr 17, 2020] Trump had better be seen to be fighting the lockdown-shysters, not acquiescing to them, if he wants to get re-elected. If he spends the summer continuing to genuflect before Dr. Falsie, Trump is toast come November.

Apr 17, 2020 | www.unz.com

Digital Samizdat , says: Show Comment April 13, 2020 at 9:16 pm GMT

Great piece from CJ, as usual. Just one quibble:

People will forget all that populism nonsense, and just be grateful for whatever McJobs they can get to be able to pay the interest on their debts, because, hey global capitalism isn't so bad compared to living under house arrest!

Hard to imagine that happening in Americastan, where the economy has been completely destroyed by the lockdown. We'll be lucky 'merely' to have Great Depression levels of unemployment when this madness finally ends.

For all the MAGApedes out there: Trump had better be seen to be fighting the lockdown-shysters, not acquiescing to them, if he wants to get re-elected. If he spends the summer continuing to genuflect before Dr. Falsie, Trump is toast come November.

[Apr 15, 2020] 'We scared the hell out of the American people' over 'flu,' says Fox News guest -- RT USA News

Notable quotes:
"... "For this, we scared the hell out of the American people, we lost 17 million jobs, we put a major dent in the economy, we closed down the schools... shut down the churches," ..."
"... "You know, this was not, and is not a pandemic. But we do have panic and pandemonium as a result of the hype of this." ..."
"... "aggressively stupid" ..."
"... "Bill Bennett may be a self-proclaimed ethics expert, but he obviously knows very little about logic and cause-and-effect," ..."
"... "It is deeply irresponsible to air this view on national television," ..."
"... "the hell out of the American people." ..."
"... " crucial" ..."
"... "no need to change anything you're doing on a day-to-day basis." ..."
"... "could have saved lives" ..."
"... "the virus decides" ..."
Apr 15, 2020 | www.rt.com

Former education secretary Bill Bennett has been savaged online for suggesting that the coronavirus is "not a pandemic," calling for the lifting of lockdown measures, as the debate rages over reopening the shuttered US economy. More than half a million Americans have caught the coronavirus, with just over 22,000 deaths. While the numbers are dire, the University of Washington's forecasters revised their total predicted Covid-19 deaths down to 60,000 last week, a number comparable to deaths from influenza in 2017-2018, and significantly lower than the six-figure death toll floated by President Donald Trump's top medical adviser, Dr Anthony Fauci, last month.

"For this, we scared the hell out of the American people, we lost 17 million jobs, we put a major dent in the economy, we closed down the schools... shut down the churches," Bennett said on Monday's edition of Fox and Friends. "You know, this was not, and is not a pandemic. But we do have panic and pandemonium as a result of the hype of this."

Fox News contributor Bill Bennett compares coronavirus to the flu, claiming that "this was not and is not a pandemic." pic.twitter.com/Q4oBcXKISV

-- Bobby Lewis (@revrrlewis) April 13, 2020

The World Health Organization declared the coronavirus a pandemic on March 11 and it has been reported in almost every country around the world. Bennett was flayed online for his "aggressively stupid" statement.

"Bill Bennett may be a self-proclaimed ethics expert, but he obviously knows very little about logic and cause-and-effect," wrote author Ward Carroll.

Aggressively stupid Bill Bennett may be a self-professed ethics expert, but he obviously knows little about logic or cause-and-effect.Hey, Billy Boy, do you think there's any relationship between actions taken and the number of #COVID19 fatalities?And get a haircut, old man.

-- Ward Carroll (@wardcarroll) April 13, 2020

"It is deeply irresponsible to air this view on national television," tweeted CNN's Chris Cillizza, while neoconservative pundit Bill Kristol suggested the low death toll was a direct result of the government scaring "the hell out of the American people."

Needless to say, if we have "only" 60,000 deaths, it's BECAUSE "we scared the hell out of the American people," and they radically changed behavior. Or rather: "We" didn't scare anyone. People were alarmed by the facts and adjusted -- despite dangerous happy talk from our president. https://t.co/yTeivjA82F

-- Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) April 13, 2020

My doctor told me he presumes I had #COVID19 and then related #coronavirus pneumonia. I can assure Bill Bennett that even though I exercised and ate well, covid kicked my ass. It was terrifying. I couldn't breathe and thought I was dying.It was nothing like the flu, fool. https://t.co/9BjQvC2yyU

-- Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) April 13, 2020

Bill Bennett doesn't understand that the only reason my "only" 60,000 people will die is because we're all stuck at home.I've said before. If the GOP thinks this is a hoax then go throw a huge party and invite yours entire family and Trump, and see how it goes. https://t.co/6TR3I0MyXC

-- John Aravosis 🇺🇸 (@aravosis) April 13, 2020

Modeling the spread of infectious diseases is an imprecise science. While the University of Washington's researchers attribute their revised predictions to " crucial" social distancing measures and recommend they remain in place until the end of May, many initial predictions about the virus were wrong. When it first entered the US in January, media outlets urged Americans not to panic, warning them that the flu was a more imminent threat. These same outlets now tell a different story .

Likewise, Fauci himself said in February that there was "no need to change anything you're doing on a day-to-day basis." On Sunday, he told CNN's Jake Tapper that the government "could have saved lives" if social distancing started earlier.

With commentators on the right demanding a relaxation of lockdown rules, and Trump's advisers telling the president – to quote Fauci – that "the virus decides" when things return to normal, no clear path forward is obvious.

[Apr 15, 2020] Anthony Fauci role in proliferation of gain of function research

Apr 15, 2020 | nlm.nih.gov

A distinct aspect of the shift in debate from framing in terms of "dual-use research" to "gain-of-function research" has been focus on biosafety concerns -- e.g., that a devastating pandemic could potentially result from a laboratory accident involving an especially dangerous pathogen created via GOFR. In light of Ron Fouchier's claim that the ferret-transmissible strain of H5N1 he produced is "probably one of the most dangerous viruses you can make" (Enserink 2011 ) and (previous) NSABB chair Paul Keim's claim that "I can't think of another pathogenic organism as scary as this one [created by Fouchier's team] I don't think anthrax is scary at all compared to this" (Enserink 2011 ), for example, some critics argued that the study in question should have been, and/or that future similar research should be, conducted in laboratories with the highest bio-containment level -- i.e., biosafety level 4 (BSL-4), as opposed to BSL-3 ("enhanced") in which this research was done (Swazo 2013 ). Fouchier has, in response, pointed out that his research received necessary institutional biosafety review/approval; and others have argued that his research (given employment of safety measures beyond ordinary BSL-3, including vaccination of lab workers against H5N1) in effect involved safety equivalent to BSL-4 (Roos 2012 ). Anthony Fauci (Director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases) has concluded that "the scientists who triggered this debate [including Fouchier] have conducted their research properly and under the safest and most secure conditions" (Fauci 2012 , p. 1).

[Apr 14, 2020] Fauci is an amazing man who can literally see into the future

Apr 14, 2020 | www.unz.com

Colin Wright , says: Website Show Comment April 12, 2020 at 6:05 am GMT

Anything's possible, but if I had to put money on one and only one hypothesis, I'd go with an accidental leak from a lab in Wuhan.
Gilad Atzmon , says: Show Comment April 12, 2020 at 1:19 pm GMT
@Colin Wright Accidental yes, China? I am not sure at all
Nuncle , says: Show Comment April 12, 2020 at 10:03 am GMT
@Colin Wright If that's the case, then Fauci is an amazing man who can literally see into the future:

https://www.healio.com/infectious-disease/emerging-diseases/news/online/%7B85a3f9c0-ed0a-4be8-9ca2-8854b2be7d13%7D/fauci-no-doubt-trump-will-face-surprise-infectious-disease-outbreak

[Apr 13, 2020] Fauci talked about continuing lockdowns until there were *no* new cases being reported

Papers, please! Covid-19 'immunity cards' may be required of Americans, Fauci says, 10 Apr, 2020 , RT.com
Apr 13, 2020 | caucus99percent.com
@travelerxxx

Fauci talked about continuing lockdowns until there were *no* new cases being reported.

I can confidently predict that will happen about a day after we win the War on Drugs and the War on Terror.

[Apr 13, 2020] Eisenhower: we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite

Apr 13, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Pft , Apr 13 2020 2:42 utc | 103

A few Easter musings.

No church on Easter for the faithful. The illuminati must feel like they are in heaven. Their goal of achieving a godless society is in reach. Well, not exactly godless since they think the elites among them have a mission to become like God, as man was made in Gods image for the purpose of knowing himself through man. We shall all worship God, which are our elites, and the priests of this Man-God religion are technocratic scientists. Some call it scientism or gnosticism or transhumanism

The idea is to transhumanistly "upgrade" humanity, create an Internet of Us, and to geocybernically control the processes of the earth system (this is known as the Fourth Industrial Revolution 4IR)

Capitalism. How strange so many here recognize the evils of Bad capitalism, more properly defined as Monopoly Capitalism, or Neoliberalism to distinguish it from good Capitalism -which is competitive capitalism well regulated in the interests of society as a whole, with a dash of socialism and monopoly (state or private) capitalism in certain industries as needed.

When we talk of Bad Capitalism of the sort Marx no doubt had in mind, we must look back and recall something Marx never envisioned, perhaps because it was a reaction to the globalist socialist theories he espoused. That was Mussolini's and then later Hitlers National Socialism, or economic Fascism. This was more accurately defined as a public private partnership (P3) that is so often referred to by the Gates funded WOrld Economic Forum and those talking about UN Sustainable Development Projects, and has become a religion of sorts in the West and also in China (more about that in a separate comment when I have time) and is really the essence of todays neoliberalism (not the propaganda you read about neoliberalism from its supporters)

Back in the 30's Mussolini's economic fascism was greatly admired by the Capitalists of that day, even FDR who has been mislabelled as socialist and anti-capitalist despite coming from the financial elite (much like Trump who is mislabelled as nationalist snd antiestablishment despite being a globalist and financial elite in private life).

Indeed just before and after Hitler took over in Germany with his partnership with German companies - the Capitalists in the US and UK/France rushed in via cartel agreements with German companies to invest and transfer technology. FDR did little to stop this.

FDR if we recall was the father of NRA which was his first priority after confiscating the peoples gold and devaluing the dollar. Fortunately his fascist NRA economy was struck down by the Supreme Court only to later reemerge during WWII. This is when P3 really crystallized in the US although it would take decades to morph into todays beast, and required another Pearl Harbor to gain acceptance for the purpose of keeping us safe from Islamic Terrorism and now the virus terrorists

One might argue that the difference between Mussolini's and Hitlers P3 and today is the government was the dominant power then, and today its at best an equal partner or more likely dominated by the corporate side (in China the private ownership is largely in the hands of the party elite as individuals and not the state which serves to subsidize their enterprises while socializing losses and privatizing profits-like the West) . Those in government, after public retirement go on to lucrative employment on the private side as their reward. Regulatory agencies are all captured by the private side of this public private partnership

This is apparent in many industries. Many of you see it with Military, intelligence and homeland security, Big Tech/Data, finance, insurance and real estate (FIRE), etc.

However, when it comes to Medical -Pharma Industry and other "science" based industries like the Climate Industry you are blinded by scientism promoted by the MSM spinmeisters supporting the Green-Virus Globalist Agenda. Yet both of these industries are driven by Public Private Partnerships to achieve Global Capitalist and Global Government Control objectives.

As Eisenhower said in his 1961 exit speech where he warned of the dangers of the MIC he also said "we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite."

So looking specifically at the actors involved in the latest Pandemic, and one sees many of them are the same players behind the Climate Terror Industry, one sees a tremendous amount of collaboration between Big Pharma, UN agencies, national health agencies, military, academia and tax free philanthropic foundations (Gates, Rockefeller, etc).

Government funds basic science via military and health/science agencies to search for new viruses or enhancing known viruses with gain of function research, that Big Pharma then exploits to develop vaccines with government and philanthropic funds in the event such viruses are released. All kinds of money gets spent in preparing for a pandemic, stockpiling supplies , medicines, vaccines in advance of a pandemic, studying ways to control people once a pandemic arrives, and studying more ways to control people to prevent another pandemic (digital id, health certificates, mandatory vaccines) . When a pandemic does arrive, all those exercises and simulations (Crimson Orange, Event 201, Dark Winter, etc) pay off, trillions of dollars are unleashed out of thin air thanks to the Fed Reserve and handed out to the private partners.

Disaster Capitalism at its finest, public private partnership working toward total control of people and earning plenty of money while doing so. Companies having nothing to do with the Pandemic but affected (Airlines, hotels) , some of which are already in trouble (Boeing) are bailed out. Small business owners get crushed.


[Apr 13, 2020] Yes Trump truly fumbled the ball on the response but he isn't the only one solely responsible for how many people have gotten sick and have died.

Apr 13, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

Trump failed to respond. But in January and February, it was clear coronavirus would hit NY. Cuomo and de Blasio could have instituted full lockdowns by early March when first cases appeared. Meanwhile, Washington State and California moved more quickly and saved many lives.

-- Ross Barkan (@RossBarkan) April 11, 2020

pic.twitter.com/X7pVPmrBTL

-- ragonepr (@ragonepr) April 11, 2020

Countless other state governors didn't close things down as quickly as Newsom in California and other governors. Florida let spring break go one and once finished no state put kids in quarantine. The blame for this response falls on many shoulders. And the lack of response is hiding the biggest transfer of wealth in history. Not here of course. As usual the blue blog has been on top of most issues and way ahead of others.

I'm very concerned about how this country will look once it's open again. I think it's going to be unrecognizable because of how many businesses will have permanently closed down and how many people will stay unemployed. Lots of businesses are going to be bought out at Fire sale prices by those who got all the money. Like usual. Workers desperate for a job might have to take less than minimum wage cuz of the demand for jobs. But whoboy congress better be thinking about that or they will be in for a big surprise. OWS will look like just a warmup for what might be coming.

Hospitals have been closed down for decades or been asset stripped after they were bought out by hedge funds. Obama and Biden didn't replenish the supplies for epidemics after they dealt with the H1N1 flu. Blame goes to both parties and especially their embrace of neoliberalism.

He's thinking of reopening the country. Hardily and bigly.

"I don't know that I've had a bigger decision. But I'm going to surround myself with the greatest minds. Not only the greatest minds, but the greatest minds in numerous different businesses, including the business of politics and reason," Trump told reporters.

Trump's labor leader doesn't want people to get used to being on government assistance and is trying to restrict who can get unemployment benefits and for how long. Now it takes brass balls for little Anthony Scalia to say that to desperate people after the corrupt and especially the banks have gotten trillions! This guy should be embarrassed to show his face in public ever again. But he isn't.

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Roy Blakeley on Sat, 04/11/2020 - 10:57pm

The CDC blew the test kits as well

@snoopydawg They decided to go with their own unnecessarily complex kit instead of going with the Qiagen kit or some variant (RT-PCR is a pretty routine procedure in labs). They initially stuck with the influenza model of having the samples sent to Atlanta for analysis. This is fine if you are just monitoring the flu, but useless for trying to stop a pandemic. Tens of thousands of people in the US have died and will die unnecessarily.

but he isn't the only one solely responsible for how many people have gotten sick and have died.

Trump failed to respond. But in January and February, it was clear coronavirus would hit NY. Cuomo and de Blasio could have instituted full lockdowns by early March when first cases appeared. Meanwhile, Washington State and California moved more quickly and saved many lives.

-- Ross Barkan (@RossBarkan) April 11, 2020

pic.twitter.com/X7pVPmrBTL

-- ragonepr (@ragonepr) April 11, 2020

Countless other state governors didn't close things down as quickly as Newsom in California and other governors. Florida let spring break go one and once finished no state put kids in quarantine. The blame for this response falls on many shoulders. And the lack of response is hiding the biggest transfer of wealth in history. Not here of course. As usual the blue blog has been on top of most issues and way ahead of others.

I'm very concerned about how this country will look once it's open again. I think it's going to be unrecognizable because of how many businesses will have permanently closed down and how many people will stay unemployed. Lots of businesses are going to be bought out at Fire sale prices by those who got all the money. Like usual. Workers desperate for a job might have to take less than minimum wage cuz of the demand for jobs. But whoboy congress better be thinking about that or they will be in for a big surprise. OWS will look like just a warmup for what might be coming.

Hospitals have been closed down for decades or been asset stripped after they were bought out by hedge funds. Obama and Biden didn't replenish the supplies for epidemics after they dealt with the H1N1 flu. Blame goes to both parties and especially their embrace of neoliberalism.

He's thinking of reopening the country. Hardily and bigly.

"I don't know that I've had a bigger decision. But I'm going to surround myself with the greatest minds. Not only the greatest minds, but the greatest minds in numerous different businesses, including the business of politics and reason," Trump told reporters.

Trump's labor leader doesn't want people to get used to being on government assistance and is trying to restrict who can get unemployment benefits and for how long. Now it takes brass balls for little Anthony Scalia to say that to desperate people after the corrupt and especially the banks have gotten trillions! This guy should be embarrassed to show his face in public ever again. But he isn't.

[Apr 13, 2020] He Could Have Seen What Was Coming Behind Trump's Failure on the Virus by Eric Lipton , David E. Sanger at all

This is a case study of bureaucratic incompetence, when conflicting institutions and agenda paralyze any efforts. Trump incompetence is only the tip of the iceberg. the whole Deep State proved to be too rigid to properly react to the epidemic, because each measure looked too drastic until it was late to implement it. and then it was implemented anyway. One effect of any large bureaucracy is that rare oasises of reliable and timely information that exist are to be suppressed. and this is not Trump fault. This is iron logic of any large bureaucracy.
What is interesting is that the epidemic is localized in few hot spots with the largest being New York metropolitan areas. So governments could took measures immediately even without federal government prompting them. And that would be much better that nationwide shutdown. And FBI and CIA have the local governments in pocket anyway (this is a national security state, not something else after all). So where was the CIA boss when we needed her ? Or she is just capable of running Russiagate gaslighting operation type of operations? CIA honchos used to have audacity to launch the efforts to depose Trump. Can we believe that they can't bypass Trump when they need to?
Notable quotes:
"... The National Security Council office responsible for tracking pandemics received intelligence reports in early January predicting the spread of the virus to the United States, and within weeks was raising options like keeping Americans home from work and shutting down cities the size of Chicago. Mr. Trump would avoid such steps until March. ..."
"... Despite Mr. Trump's denial weeks later, he was told at the time about a Jan. 29 memo produced by his trade adviser, Peter Navarro, laying out in striking detail the potential risks of a coronavirus pandemic: as many as half a million deaths and trillions of dollars in economic losses. ..."
"... By the last week of February, it was clear to the administration's public health team that schools and businesses in hot spots would have to close. But in the turbulence of the Trump White House, it took three more weeks to persuade the president that failure to act quickly to control the spread of the virus would have dire consequences. ..."
"... It was becoming apparent that the administration had botched the rollout of testing to track the virus at home, and a smaller-scale surveillance program intended to piggyback on a federal flu tracking system had also been stillborn. ..."
"... A 20-year-old Chinese woman had infected five relatives with the virus even though she never displayed any symptoms herself. The implication was grave -- apparently healthy people could be unknowingly spreading the virus -- and supported the need to move quickly to mitigation. ..."
"... These final days of February, perhaps more than any other moment during his tenure in the White House, illustrated Mr. Trump's inability or unwillingness to absorb warnings coming at him. He instead reverted to his traditional political playbook in the midst of a public health calamity, squandering vital time as the coronavirus spread silently across the country. ..."
"... Over nearly three weeks from Feb. 26 to March 16, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States grew from 15 to 4,226. ..."
"... The earliest warnings about coronavirus got caught in the crosscurrents of the administration's internal disputes over China. It was the China hawks who pushed earliest for a travel ban. But their animosity toward China also undercut hopes for a more cooperative approach by the world's two leading powers to a global crisis. ..."
Apr 11, 2020 | www.nytimes.com

By Eric Lipton , David E. Sanger , Maggie Haberman , Michael D. Shear , Mark Mazzetti and Julian E. Barnes

An examination reveals the president was warned about the potential for a pandemic but that internal divisions, lack of planning and his faith in his own instincts led to a halting response.

"Nobody knew there would be a pandemic or epidemic of this proportion," President Trump said last month. He has repeatedly said that no one could have seen the effects of the coronavirus coming. Credit... Erin Schaff/The

WASHINGTON -- "Any way you cut it, this is going to be bad," a senior medical adviser at the Department of Veterans Affairs, Dr. Carter Mecher, wrote on the night of Jan. 28, in an email to a group of public health experts scattered around the government and universities. "The projected size of the outbreak already seems hard to believe."

A week after the first coronavirus case had been identified in the United States, and six long weeks before President Trump finally took aggressive action to confront the danger the nation was facing -- a pandemic that is now forecast to take tens of thousands of American lives -- Dr. Mecher was urging the upper ranks of the nation's public health bureaucracy to wake up and prepare for the possibility of far more drastic action.

"You guys made fun of me screaming to close the schools," he wrote to the group, which called itself "Red Dawn," an inside joke based on the 1984 movie about a band of Americans trying to save the country after a foreign invasion. "Now I'm screaming, close the colleges and universities."

His was hardly a lone voice. Throughout January, as Mr. Trump repeatedly played down the seriousness of the virus and focused on other issues, an array of figures inside his government -- from top White House advisers to experts deep in the cabinet departments and intelligence agencies -- identified the threat, sounded alarms and made clear the need for aggressive action.

The president, though, was slow to absorb the scale of the risk and to act accordingly, focusing instead on controlling the message, protecting gains in the economy and batting away warnings from senior officials. It was a problem, he said, that had come out of nowhere and could not have been foreseen.

Even after Mr. Trump took his first concrete action at the end of January -- limiting travel from China -- public health often had to compete with economic and political considerations in internal debates, slowing the path toward belated decisions to seek more money from Congress, obtain necessary supplies, address shortfalls in testing and ultimately move to keep much of the nation at home.

Unfolding as it did in the wake of his impeachment by the House and in the midst of his Senate trial, Mr. Trump's response was colored by his suspicion of and disdain for what he viewed as the "Deep State" -- the very people in his government whose expertise and long experience might have guided him more quickly toward steps that would slow the virus, and likely save lives.

Decision-making was also complicated by a long-running dispute inside the administration over how to deal with China. The virus at first took a back seat to a desire not to upset Beijing during trade talks, but later the impulse to score points against Beijing left the world's two leading powers further divided as they confronted one of the first truly global threats of the 21st century.

The shortcomings of Mr. Trump's performance have played out with remarkable transparency as part of his daily effort to dominate television screens and the national conversation.

But dozens of interviews with current and former officials and a review of emails and other records revealed many previously unreported details and a fuller picture of the roots and extent of his halting response as the deadly virus spread:

When Mr. Trump finally agreed in mid-March to recommend social distancing across the country, effectively bringing much of the economy to a halt, he seemed shellshocked and deflated to some of his closest associates. One described him as "subdued" and "baffled" by how the crisis had played out. An economy that he had wagered his re-election on was suddenly in shambles.

He only regained his swagger, the associate said, from conducting his daily White House briefings, at which he often seeks to rewrite the history of the past several months. He declared at one point that he "felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic," and insisted at another that he had to be a "cheerleader for the country," as if that explained why he failed to prepare the public for what was coming.

Mr. Trump's allies and some administration officials say the criticism has been unfair. The Chinese government misled other governments, they say. And they insist that the president was either not getting proper information, or the people around him weren't conveying the urgency of the threat. In some cases, they argue, the specific officials he was hearing from had been discredited in his eyes, but once the right information got to him through other channels, he made the right calls.

"While the media and Democrats refused to seriously acknowledge this virus in January and February, President Trump took bold action to protect Americans and unleash the full power of the federal government to curb the spread of the virus, expand testing capacities and expedite vaccine development even when we had no true idea the level of transmission or asymptomatic spread," said Judd Deere, a White House spokesman.

There were key turning points along the way, opportunities for Mr. Trump to get ahead of the virus rather than just chase it. There were internal debates that presented him with stark choices, and moments when he could have chosen to ask deeper questions and learn more. How he handled them may shape his re-election campaign. They will certainly shape his legacy.

The Containment Illusion

By the last week of February, it was clear to the administration's public health team that schools and businesses in hot spots would have to close. But in the turbulence of the Trump White House, it took three more weeks to persuade the president that failure to act quickly to control the spread of the virus would have dire consequences.

When Dr. Robert Kadlec, the top disaster response official at the Health and Human Services Department, convened the White House coronavirus task force on Feb. 21, his agenda was urgent. There were deep cracks in the administration's strategy for keeping the virus out of the United States. They were going to have to lock down the country to prevent it from spreading. The question was: When?

There had already been an alarming spike in new cases around the world and the virus was spreading across the Middle East. It was becoming apparent that the administration had botched the rollout of testing to track the virus at home, and a smaller-scale surveillance program intended to piggyback on a federal flu tracking system had also been stillborn.

In Washington, the president was not worried, predicting that by April, "when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away." His White House had yet to ask Congress for additional funding to prepare for the potential cost of wide-scale infection across the country, and health care providers were growing increasingly nervous about the availability of masks, ventilators and other equipment.

What Mr. Trump decided to do next could dramatically shape the course of the pandemic -- and how many people would get sick and die.

With that in mind, the task force had gathered for a tabletop exercise -- a real-time version of a full-scale war gaming of a flu pandemic the administration had run the previous year. That earlier exercise , also conducted by Mr. Kadlec and called "Crimson Contagion," predicted 110 million infections , 7.7 million hospitalizations and 586,000 deaths following a hypothetical outbreak that started in China.

Facing the likelihood of a real pandemic, the group needed to decide when to abandon "containment" -- the effort to keep the virus outside the U.S. and to isolate anyone who gets infected -- and embrace "mitigation" to thwart the spread of the virus inside the country until a vaccine becomes available.

Among the questions on the agenda, which was reviewed by The New York Times, was when the department's secretary, Mr. Azar, should recommend that Mr. Trump take textbook mitigation measures "such as school dismissals and cancellations of mass gatherings," which had been identified as the next appropriate step in a Bush-era pandemic plan .

The exercise was sobering. The group -- including Dr. Anthony S. Fauci of the National Institutes of Health; Dr. Robert R. Redfield of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and Mr. Azar, who at that stage was leading the White House Task Force -- concluded they would soon need to move toward aggressive social distancing, even at the risk of severe disruption to the nation's economy and the daily lives of millions of Americans.

If Dr. Kadlec had any doubts, they were erased two days later, when he stumbled upon an email from a researcher at the Georgia Institute of Technology, who was among the group of academics, government physicians and infectious diseases doctors who had spent weeks tracking the outbreak in the Red Dawn email chain.

A 20-year-old Chinese woman had infected five relatives with the virus even though she never displayed any symptoms herself. The implication was grave -- apparently healthy people could be unknowingly spreading the virus -- and supported the need to move quickly to mitigation.

"Is this true?!" Dr. Kadlec wrote back to the researcher. "If so we have a huge whole on our screening and quarantine effort," including a typo where he meant hole. Her response was blunt: "People are carrying the virus everywhere."

The following day, Dr. Kadlec and the others decided to present Mr. Trump with a plan titled "Four Steps to Mitigation," telling the president that they needed to begin preparing Americans for a step rarely taken in United States history.

But over the next several days, a presidential blowup and internal turf fights would sidetrack such a move. The focus would shift to messaging and confident predictions of success rather than publicly calling for a shift to mitigation.

These final days of February, perhaps more than any other moment during his tenure in the White House, illustrated Mr. Trump's inability or unwillingness to absorb warnings coming at him. He instead reverted to his traditional political playbook in the midst of a public health calamity, squandering vital time as the coronavirus spread silently across the country.

Dr. Kadlec's group wanted to meet with the president right away, but Mr. Trump was on a trip to India, so they agreed to make the case to him in person as soon as he returned two days later. If they could convince him of the need to shift strategy, they could immediately begin a national education campaign aimed at preparing the public for the new reality.

A memo dated Feb. 14, prepared in coordination with the National Security Council and titled "U.S. Government Response to the 2019 Novel Coronavirus," documented what more drastic measures would look like, including: "significantly limiting public gatherings and cancellation of almost all sporting events, performances, and public and private meetings that cannot be convened by phone. Consider school closures. Widespread 'stay at home' directives from public and private organizations with nearly 100% telework for some."

The memo did not advocate an immediate national shutdown, but said the targeted use of "quarantine and isolation measures" could be used to slow the spread in places where "sustained human-to-human transmission" is evident.

Within 24 hours, before they got a chance to make their presentation to the president, the plan went awry.

Mr. Trump was walking up the steps of Air Force One to head home from India on Feb. 25 when Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, publicly issued the blunt warning they had all agreed was necessary. But Dr. Messonnier had jumped the gun. They had not told the president yet, much less gotten his consent.

On the 18-hour plane ride home, Mr. Trump fumed as he watched the stock market crash after Dr. Messonnier's comments. Furious, he called Mr. Azar when he landed at around 6 a.m. on Feb. 26, raging that Dr. Messonnier had scared people unnecessarily. Already on thin ice with the president over a variety of issues and having overseen the failure to quickly produce an effective and widely available test, Mr. Azar would soon find his authority reduced.

The meeting that evening with Mr. Trump to advocate social distancing was canceled, replaced by a news conference in which the president announced that the White House response would be put under the command of Vice President Mike Pence.

The push to convince Mr. Trump of the need for more assertive action stalled. With Mr. Pence and his staff in charge, the focus was clear: no more alarmist messages. Statements and media appearances by health officials like Dr. Fauci and Dr. Redfield would be coordinated through Mr. Pence's office. It would be more than three weeks before Mr. Trump would announce serious social distancing efforts, a lost period during which the spread of the virus accelerated rapidly.

Over nearly three weeks from Feb. 26 to March 16, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States grew from 15 to 4,226. Since then, nearly half a million Americans have tested positive for the virus and authorities say hundreds of thousands more are likely infected. The China Factor

The earliest warnings about coronavirus got caught in the crosscurrents of the administration's internal disputes over China. It was the China hawks who pushed earliest for a travel ban. But their animosity toward China also undercut hopes for a more cooperative approach by the world's two leading powers to a global crisis.

It was early January, and the call with a Hong Kong epidemiologist left Matthew Pottinger rattled.

Mr. Pottinger, the deputy national security adviser and a hawk on China, took a blunt warning away from the call with the doctor, a longtime friend: A ferocious, new outbreak that on the surface appeared similar to the SARS epidemic of 2003 had emerged in China. It had spread far more quickly than the government was admitting to, and it wouldn't be long before it reached other parts of the world.

Mr. Pottinger had worked as a Wall Street Journal correspondent in Hong Kong during the SARS epidemic, and was still scarred by his experience documenting the death spread by that highly contagious virus.

Now, seventeen years later, his friend had a blunt message: You need to be ready. The virus, he warned, which originated in the city of Wuhan, was being transmitted by people who were showing no symptoms -- an insight that American health officials had not yet accepted. Mr. Pottinger declined through a spokesman to comment.

It was one of the earliest warnings to the White House, and it echoed the intelligence reports making their way to the National Security Council. While most of the early assessments from the C.I.A. had little more information than was available publicly, some of the more specialized corners of the intelligence world were producing sophisticated and chilling warnings.

In a report to the director of national intelligence, the State Department's epidemiologist wrote in early January that the virus was likely to spread across the globe, and warned that the coronavirus could develop into a pandemic. Working independently, a small outpost of the Defense Intelligence Agency, the National Center for Medical Intelligence, came to the same conclusion. Within weeks after getting initial information about the virus early in the year, biodefense experts inside the National Security Council, looking at what was happening in Wuhan, started urging officials to think about what would be needed to quarantine a city the size of Chicago.

By mid-January there was growing evidence of the virus spreading outside China. Mr. Pottinger began convening daily meetings about the coronavirus. He alerted his boss, Robert C. O'Brien, the national security adviser.

The early alarms sounded by Mr. Pottinger and other China hawks were freighted with ideology -- including a push to publicly blame China that critics in the administration say was a distraction as the coronavirus spread to Western Europe and eventually the United States.

And they ran into opposition from Mr. Trump's economic advisers, who worried a tough approach toward China could scuttle a trade deal that was a pillar of Mr. Trump's re-election campaign.

With his skeptical -- some might even say conspiratorial -- view of China's ruling Communist Party, Mr. Pottinger initially suspected that President Xi Jinping's government was keeping a dark secret: that the virus may have originated in one of the laboratories in Wuhan studying deadly pathogens. In his view, it might have even been a deadly accident unleashed on an unsuspecting Chinese population.

During meetings and telephone calls, Mr. Pottinger asked intelligence agencies -- including officers at the C.I.A. working on Asia and on weapons of mass destruction -- to search for evidence that might bolster his theory.

They didn't have any evidence. Intelligence agencies did not detect any alarm inside the Chinese government that analysts presumed would accompany the accidental leak of a deadly virus from a government laboratory. But Mr. Pottinger continued to believe the coronavirus problem was far worse than the Chinese were acknowledging. Inside the West Wing, the director of the Domestic Policy Council, Joe Grogan, also tried to sound alarms that the threat from China was growing.

Mr. Pottinger, backed by Mr. O'Brien, became one of the driving forces of a campaign in the final weeks of January to convince Mr. Trump to impose limits on travel from China -- the first substantive step taken to impede the spread of the virus and one that the president has repeatedly cited as evidence that he was on top of the problem.

In addition to the opposition from the economic team, Mr. Pottinger and his allies among the China hawks had to overcome initial skepticism from the administration's public health experts.

Travel restrictions were usually counterproductive to managing biological outbreaks because they prevented doctors and other much-needed medical help from easily getting to the affected areas, the health officials said. And such bans often cause infected people to flee, spreading the disease further.

But on the morning of Jan. 30, Mr. Azar got a call from Dr. Fauci, Dr. Redfield and others saying they had changed their minds. The World Health Organization had declared a global public health emergency and American officials had discovered the first confirmed case of person-to-person transmission inside the United States.

The economic team, led by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, continued to argue that there were big risks in taking a provocative step toward China and moving to curb global travel. After a debate, Mr. Trump came down on the side of the hawks and the public health team. The limits on travel from China were publicly announced on Jan. 31 .

Still, Mr. Trump and other senior officials were wary of further upsetting Beijing. Besides the concerns about the impact on the trade deal, they knew that an escalating confrontation was risky because the United States relies heavily on China for pharmaceuticals and the kinds of protective equipment most needed to combat the coronavirus.

But the hawks kept pushing in February to take a critical stance toward China amid the growing crisis. Mr. Pottinger and others -- including aides to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo -- pressed for government statements to use the term "Wuhan Virus."

Mr. Pompeo tried to hammer the anti-China message at every turn, eventually even urging leaders of the Group of 7 industrialized countries to use "Wuhan virus" in a joint statement.

Others, including aides to Mr. Pence, resisted taking a hard public line, believing that angering Beijing might lead the Chinese government to withhold medical supplies, pharmaceuticals and any scientific research that might ultimately lead to a vaccine.

Mr. Trump took a conciliatory approach through the middle of March, praising the job Mr. Xi was doing.

That changed abruptly, when aides informed Mr. Trump that a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman had publicly spun a new conspiracy about the origins of Covid-19: that it was brought to China by U.S. Army personnel who visited the country last October.

Mr. Trump was furious, and he took to his favorite platform to broadcast a new message. On March 16, he wrote on Twitter that "the United States will be powerfully supporting those industries, like Airlines and others, that are particularly affected by the Chinese Virus."

Mr. Trump's decision to escalate the war of words undercut any remaining possibility of broad cooperation between the governments to address a global threat. It remains to be seen whether that mutual suspicion will spill over into efforts to develop treatments or vaccines, both areas where the two nations are now competing.

One immediate result was a free-for-all across the United States, with state and local governments and hospitals bidding on the open market for scarce but essential Chinese-made products. When the state of Massachusetts managed to procure 1.2 million masks, it fell to the owner of the New England Patriots, Robert K. Kraft, a Trump ally, to cut through extensive red tape on both sides of the Pacific to send his own plane to pick them up.

The Consequences of Chaos

The chaotic culture of the Trump White House contributed to the crisis. A lack of planning and a failure to execute, combined with the president's focus on the news cycle and his preference for following his gut rather than the data cost time, and perhaps lives.

Inside the West Wing, Mr. Navarro, Mr. Trump's trade adviser, was widely seen as quick-tempered, self-important and prone to butting in. He is among the most outspoken of China hawks and in late January was clashing with the administration's health experts over limiting travel from China.

So it elicited eye rolls when, after initially being prevented from joining the coronavirus task force, he circulated a memo on Jan. 29 urging Mr. Trump to impose the travel limits, arguing that failing to confront the outbreak aggressively could be catastrophic, leading to hundreds of thousands of deaths and trillions of dollars in economic losses.

The uninvited message could not have conflicted more with the president's approach at the time of playing down the severity of the threat. And when aides raised it with Mr. Trump, he responded that he was unhappy that Mr. Navarro had put his warning in writing.

From the time the virus was first identified as a concern, the administration's response was plagued by the rivalries and factionalism that routinely swirl around Mr. Trump and, along with the president's impulsiveness, undercut decision making and policy development.

Faced with the relentless march of a deadly pathogen, the disagreements and a lack of long-term planning had significant consequences. They slowed the president's response and resulted in problems with execution and planning, including delays in seeking money from Capitol Hill and a failure to begin broad surveillance testing.

The efforts to shape Mr. Trump's view of the virus began early in January, when his focus was elsewhere: the fallout from his decision to kill Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani , Iran's security mastermind; his push for an initial trade deal with China ; and his Senate impeachment trial, which was about to begin .

Even after Mr. Azar first briefed him about the potential seriousness of the virus during a phone call on Jan. 18 while the president was at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, Mr. Trump projected confidence that it would be a passing problem.

"We have it totally under control," he told an interviewer a few days later while attending the World Economic Forum in Switzerland. "It's going to be just fine."

Back in Washington, voices outside of the White House peppered Mr. Trump with competing assessments about what he should do and how quickly he should act.

The efforts to sort out policy behind closed doors were contentious and sometimes only loosely organized.

That was the case when the National Security Council convened a meeting on short notice on the afternoon of Jan. 27. The Situation Room was standing room only, packed with top White House advisers, low-level staffers, Mr. Trump's social media guru, and several cabinet secretaries. There was no checklist about the preparations for a possible pandemic, which would require intensive testing, rapid acquisition of protective gear, and perhaps serious limitations on Americans' movements.

Instead, after a 20-minute description by Mr. Azar of his department's capabilities, the meeting was jolted when Stephen E. Biegun, the newly installed deputy secretary of state, announced plans to issue a " level four " travel warning, strongly discouraging Americans from traveling to China. The room erupted into bickering.

A few days later, on the evening of Jan. 30, Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff at the time, and Mr. Azar called Air Force One as the president was making the final decision to go ahead with the restrictions on China travel. Mr. Azar was blunt, warning that the virus could develop into a pandemic and arguing that China should be criticized for failing to be transparent.

Mr. Trump rejected the idea of criticizing China, saying the country had enough to deal with. And if the president's decision on the travel restrictions suggested that he fully grasped the seriousness of the situation, his response to Mr. Azar indicated otherwise.

Stop panicking, Mr. Trump told him.

That sentiment was present throughout February, as the president's top aides reached for a consistent message but took few concrete steps to prepare for the possibility of a major public health crisis.

During a briefing on Capitol Hill on Feb. 5, senators urged administration officials to take the threat more seriously. Several asked if the administration needed additional money to help local and state health departments prepare.

Derek Kan, a senior official from the Office of Management and Budget, replied that the administration had all the money it needed, at least at that point, to stop the virus, two senators who attended the briefing said.

"Just left the Administration briefing on Coronavirus," Senator Christopher S. Murphy, Democrat of Connecticut, wrote in a tweet shortly after. "Bottom line: they aren't taking this seriously enough."

The administration also struggled to carry out plans it did agree on. In mid-February, with the effort to roll out widespread testing stalled, Mr. Azar announced a plan to repurpose a flu-surveillance system in five major cities to help track the virus among the general population. The effort all but collapsed even before it got started as Mr. Azar struggled to win approval for $100 million in funding and the C.D.C. failed to make reliable tests available .

The number of infections in the United States started to surge through February and early March, but the Trump administration did not move to place large-scale orders for masks and other protective equipment, or critical hospital equipment, such as ventilators. The Pentagon sat on standby , awaiting any orders to help provide temporary hospitals or other assistance.

As February gave way to March, the president continued to be surrounded by divided factions even as it became clearer that avoiding more aggressive steps was not tenable.

Mr. Trump had agreed to give an Oval Office address on the evening of March 11 announcing restrictions on travel from Europe, where the virus was ravaging Italy. But responding to the views of his business friends and others, he continued to resist calls for social distancing, school closures and other steps that would imperil the economy.

But the virus was already multiplying across the country -- and hospitals were at risk of buckling under the looming wave of severely ill people, lacking masks and other protective equipment, ventilators and sufficient intensive care beds. The question loomed over the president and his aides after weeks of stalling and inaction: What were they going to do?

The approach that Mr. Azar and others had planned to bring to him weeks earlier moved to the top of the agenda. Even then, and even by Trump White House standards, the debate over whether to shut down much of the country to slow the spread was especially fierce.

Always attuned to anything that could trigger a stock market decline or an economic slowdown that could hamper his re-election effort, Mr. Trump also reached out to prominent investors like Stephen A. Schwarzman, the chief executive of Blackstone Group, a private equity firm.

"Everybody questioned it for a while, not everybody, but a good portion questioned it," Mr. Trump said earlier this month . "They said, let's keep it open. Let's ride it."

In a tense Oval Office meeting, when Mr. Mnuchin again stressed that the economy would be ravaged, Mr. O'Brien, the national security adviser, who had been worried about the virus for weeks, sounded exasperated as he told Mr. Mnuchin that the economy would be destroyed regardless if officials did nothing.

Soon after the Oval Office address, Dr. Scott Gottlieb, the former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration and a trusted sounding board inside the White House, visited Mr. Trump, partly at the urging of Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law. Dr. Gottlieb's role was to impress upon the president how serious the crisis could become. Mr. Pence, by then in charge of the task force, also played a key role at that point in getting through to the president about the seriousness of the moment in a way that Mr. Azar had not.

But in the end, aides said, it was Dr. Deborah L. Birx, the veteran AIDS researcher who had joined the task force, who helped to persuade Mr. Trump. Soft-spoken and fond of the kind of charts and graphs Mr. Trump prefers, Dr. Birx did not have the rough edges that could irritate the president. He often told people he thought she was elegant.

On Monday, March 16, Mr. Trump announced new social distancing guidelines , saying they would be in place for two weeks. The subsequent economic disruptions were so severe that the president repeatedly suggested that he wanted to lift even those temporary restrictions. He frequently asked aides why his administration was still being blamed in news coverage for the widespread failures involving testing, insisting the responsibility had shifted to the states.

During the last week in March, Kellyanne Conway, a senior White House adviser involved in task force meetings, gave voice to concerns other aides had. She warned Mr. Trump that his wished-for date of Easter to reopen the country likely couldn't be accomplished. Among other things, she told him, he would end up being blamed by critics for every subsequent death caused by the virus.

Within days, he watched images on television of a calamitous situation at Elmhurst Hospital Center, miles from his childhood home in Queens, N.Y., where 13 people had died from the coronavirus in 24 hours.

He left the restrictions in place.

[Apr 13, 2020] "Nobody knew there would be a pandemic or epidemic of this proportion,"

Apr 13, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

CB on Sat, 04/11/2020 - 4:46pm Timeline on how Donald Trump completely failed America.

This expose by the New York Times is the best reporting I have seen on Trump's complete inability and subsequent failure to lead during this time of acute crisis.

He Could Have Seen What Was Coming: Behind Trump's Failure on the Virus

An examination reveals the president was warned about the potential for a pandemic but that internal divisions, lack of planning and his faith in his own instincts led to a halting response.

April 11, 2020
Updated 4:33 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON -- "Any way you cut it, this is going to be bad," a senior medical adviser at the Department of Veterans Affairs, Dr. Carter Mecher, wrote on the night of Jan. 28, in an email to a group of public health experts scattered around the government and universities. "The projected size of the outbreak already seems hard to believe."

A week after the first coronavirus case had been identified in the United States, and six long weeks before President Trump finally took aggressive action to confront the danger the nation was facing -- a pandemic that is now forecast to take tens of thousands of American lives -- Dr. Mecher was urging the upper ranks of the nation's public health bureaucracy to wake up and prepare for the possibility of far more drastic action.
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The Containment Illusion

By the last week of February, it was clear to the administration's public health team that schools and businesses in hot spots would have to close. But in the turbulence of the Trump White House, it took three more weeks to persuade the president that failure to act quickly to control the spread of the virus would have dire consequences.
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The China Factor

The earliest warnings about coronavirus got caught in the crosscurrents of the administration's internal disputes over China. It was the China hawks who pushed earliest for a travel ban. But their animosity toward China also undercut hopes for a more cooperative approach by the world's two leading powers to a global crisis.
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The Consequences of Chaos

The chaotic culture of the Trump White House contributed to the crisis. A lack of planning and a failure to execute, combined with the president's focus on the news cycle and his preference for following his gut rather than the data cost time, and perhaps lives.

[Apr 11, 2020] Coronavirus spread in UK is a 'crime' as NHS had 4 years to prepare for pandemic – John Pilger

Apr 11, 2020 | www.rt.com

Award-winning journalist John Pilger has revealed that the NHS staged an exercise in London in 2016 which proved it was unable to cope with a pandemic like Covid-19, but its findings were suppressed. Speaking to RT's Going Underground , Pilger said that back in 2016, the UK government ran a drill in London that showed the health service was incapable of dealing with an outbreak.

He described the failure as a "crime" and told host Afshin Rattansi that the findings from the exercise, titled Cygnus, had been concealed by the government.

"The result of the drill was that the health service was overwhelmed, there weren't enough beds, there weren't enough ventilators, there weren't enough clinicians in the right places. The whole system, which had been battered by cuts and privatization for years, failed," he said.

The journalist explained that the NHS had been "devastated" by the Tory-led government's decision to bring in the Health and Social Care Act in 2012.

Pilger's scathing comments come a day after the UK recorded its most deaths in a single day since the crisis began. The 854 fatalities took the total to 6,159.

Projections by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation in Seattle, US, warned that the UK could become the European country worst-hit by Covid-19, possibly accounting for 40 percent of the continent's deaths.

The documentary film maker, whose most recent works include 'The Dirty War on the NHS,' also blasted successive British governments since the 1980s for slashing NHS funding and pursuing a policy of privatization by "stealth."

[Apr 10, 2020] We are awash in examples of U.S. government incompetence - look up incompetence on Wikipedia has Pompous' photo (OK but it should).

Apr 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

jared , Apr 8 2020 16:58 utc | 52

@45 Posted by: JohninMK | Apr 8 2020 16:05 utc | 45

If I comprehend, the issue was that they knew there was a problem in November rather than December.
Not sure the point really, we are awash in examples of U.S. government incompetence - look up incompetence on Wikipedia has Pompous' photo (OK but it should).

Realistically:
- the government is slow to respond
- the government is bad at planning
- the government is around 1 million people all pulling in different directions
- it is only when problem is obvious and damaging that the government gets somewhat focused
- the virus is invisible
- the extent of damage was uncertain

I think at this point it has their attention.

[Apr 10, 2020] US Department of Defense give 1 million masks to IDF for coronavirus use

From comments: "Of course, Israel is the Pentagons biggest ally in keeping the military budget up. "
Apr 10, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Brendan , Apr 8 2020 8:49 utc | 5
April 7: Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word

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April 8: US Department of Defense give 1 million masks to IDF for coronavirus use


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Posted by b on April 8, 2020 at 7:43 UTC | Permalink

The Jpost article that b links to says that a million masks from China (donated by the US Department of Defense) arrived in Tel Aviv on Tuesday night. But Israel should have already had two million masks if this report from last weekend is correct:
The shipment will include two million masks, landing in Israel on Monday morning,
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-april-4-2020/

So that appears to be three million masks from China, plus those seized from American hospitals. Or are they fiddling the figures and pretending that those seized masks were legally purchased in China?


Brendan , Apr 8 2020 9:53 utc | 8

It appears that Mossad and others have recently acquired about two surgical masks per Israeli:

"5 April 2020,
(...)Last week, the Health Ministry said that security services and government ministries had managed to obtain 27 ventilators and a hoard of other medical equipment from abroad.

Hebrew media reported that the Mossad intelligence service, which has been tasked with securing medical equipment from abroad from unspecified countries amid worldwide shortages, helped obtain 25,000 N95 respiratory masks , 20,000 virus test kits, 10 million surgical masks , and 700 overalls for ambulance workers who usually carry out the initial testing for the virus.

It was the third such shipment by the Mossad over the past few weeks, aimed at addressing shortages in Israel."
https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-11-planes-israel-airlifts-huge-quantities-of-medical-equipment-from-china/

Mao , Apr 8 2020 9:58 utc | 9
Pompeo: "America remains the world's leading light of humanitarian goodness."

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1247559857206628354

Emily , Apr 8 2020 10:12 utc | 11
One million masks for the IDF.
Eat your heart out US Theodore Roosevelt and Guam.
US sailors right at the bottom of the Pentagon's priorities, thats for sure.
American military?.
Have one duty - die as required for Israel.
Including death by coronavirus by looks of things.....
More fool them.
Richard Steven Hack , Apr 8 2020 10:13 utc | 12
Bloody hell. The Pentagon procures a million masks from China, then gives them to Israel - when US doctors are running low in almost every city - not to mention that the military itself has soaring coronavirus cases it can't handle.

You gotta know some rich Jewish corporate billionaire was behind that crap and Kushner was just the conduit to get Trump to agree to it - probably in exchange for a big donation to Trump's campaign.

If there was ever a country that deserved to be on the end of a US bombing campaign - it's Israel - a racist, fanatical. colonialist, fascist, illegal terrorist state. Zionists - the biggest scumbags on the planet. But instead the US bombs everyone else Israel doesn't like.

But cheer up. Israel is a doomed nation. There is no way they can continue their path forever, historically speaking. I suspect they won't exist within another fifty years. They'll either be annihilated by their own nuclear weapons, or transformed into a bi-national state that is no longer primarily Jewish. And I don't particularly care which.

Mao , Apr 8 2020 12:41 utc | 17
The U.S. government's efforts to clean up Cold War-era waste from nuclear research and bomb making at federal sites around the country has lumbered along for decades, often at a pace that watchdogs and other critics say threatens public health and the environment.

Now, fallout from the global coronavirus pandemic is resulting in more challenges as the nation's only underground repository for nuclear waste finished ramping down operations Wednesday to keep workers safe.

Over more than 20 years, tons of waste have been stashed deep in the salt caverns that make up the southern New Mexico site. Until recently, several shipments a week of special boxes and barrels packed with lab coats, rubber gloves, tools and debris contaminated with plutonium and other radioactive elements were being trucked to the remote facility from South Carolina, Idaho and other spots.

That's all but grinding to a halt.

Shipments to the desert outpost will be limited for the foreseeable future while work at the country's national laboratories and defense sites shift to only those operations considered "mission critical."

Officials at the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant warned state regulators in a letter Tuesday that more time would be needed for inspections and audits and that work would be curtailed or shifts would be staggered to ensure workers keep their distance from one another.

https://apnews.com/36eec1b19f113b62fa94f2f0388e240d

Ghost Ship , Apr 8 2020 12:41 utc | 18
... ... ...

BTW, the Al Quds Post (aka Jerusalem Post to Zionists) has changed the headline on that article to "Israel brings 1 million masks from China for IDF soldiers" Looks like the "New York Purchasing and Logistics Division" is part of the Israeli Ministry Of War All The Time. So the original was a nice story but fake news. Since there was no correction attached to the new version, it could be that Washington/Tel Aviv reckoned that this was a step to far even for Trump and the new version is the fake news.

Willy2 , Apr 8 2020 12:45 utc | 20
- This news simply confirms again that the US, under Trump, has become more corrupt. But this is a development that already started years, decades ago before Trump became president.
William Gruff , Apr 8 2020 13:00 utc | 22
Willy2 @20

I think the possibility should be considered that Trump just made preexisting corruption more visible rather than adding significantly to it. There are elaborate protocols and circuitous speech that professional politicians learn to use to obfuscate the corruption and make their own participation in that corruption seem not only acceptable but necessary or even in the public interest. Trump is either ignorant of these protocols or he just doesn't care.

vk , Apr 8 2020 13:26 utc | 24
This is not surprising at all. Israel's economy is completely dependent on American constant aid:

All is not what it seems: Israeli economy's relative success based on massive direct aid from the US and donations from the Jewish diaspora

Even with all this help (of which most go to the military sector), the Isreali economy can barely keep itself afloat:

[...] inequality of income and wealth is huge in Israel, the second worst in the 36 nation OECD group. The relative poverty rate for Haredim and Arabs (25% of the population) is near 50%, and even for other Israelis, it is higher than the OECD average. The gap in median wage levels from skilled to unskilled; from Haredim/Arabs to others is huge - and yet the former will constitute 50% of the population by 2060.

And this mask fiasco is the lesser problem for the American working class right now. A significant portion of its people is going hungry . That magic USD 1,200 check is not coming soon:

"the checks are not in the mail."

And the problem isn't just in the USA. The periphery of Western Civilization is also going to suffer:

Germany and France: the sharpest contractions in national output for 75 years.

Germany's economy will shrink almost 10 per cent in the three months to June, according to the country's top economic research institutes, the sharpest decline since quarterly national accounts began in 1970 and double the size of the biggest drop in the 2008 financial crisis.

The shutdown of vast swaths of economic activity to contain the spread of the pandemic is knocking 1.5 percentage points off French growth for every two weeks that it continues, the Banque de France warned on Wednesday.

After more than three weeks in lockdown, French economic output is expected to have fallen by the sharpest rate since the second world war, the central bank said, forecasting that gross domestic product contracted 6 per cent in the first three months of the year.


jared , Apr 8 2020 13:41 utc | 26
However, to the matter of Israel and the virus:
I thought they were having strangely little impact from virus.

Anyway, this is all very revealing.

You know how people always question:
Why did that woman remain in that abusive relationship?

Nathan Mulcahy , Apr 8 2020 14:18 utc | 29
"US Department of Defense give 1 million masks to IDF for coronavirus use"

MIGA

Phryne's frock , Apr 8 2020 14:23 utc | 31
Get everyone you know to read "Against Our Better Judgment" by Alison Weir. Absolutely the best short, supereasy read to open eyes of those who are unaware that they are unaware, I promise. If you can afford to, buy copies to give away.
red1chief , Apr 8 2020 14:34 utc | 32
Very brief, "b", but one of your best posts. This is an unmitigated outrage. The arrogance of the ruling class knows no bounds, and they are acting with impunity. Seems the ruling class doesn't even care anymore how widely known it is that the US has little sovereignty.
Circe , Apr 8 2020 14:41 utc | 35
Is Trump charging for the masks or are they an added bonus to the 4 billion Israel already gets annually?

In 2018 Trump cut all aid to UNRWA destined for Palestine.

Screw Trump. Palestinians have started producing their own masks; up to 50,000 per day as well as protective gowns.

[Apr 09, 2020] Dr. Fauci Says US COVID-19 US Deaths Could Be As Low As 60K After Warning Millions Could Die

This guy is really a fearmonger who after sleeting for two months greatly contributed with his idiotic interviews to the botched reaction of the US government to this crisis. He should go
Notable quotes:
"... And now, after the Trump Administration scrambled to ramp up testing capacity and the states worked with the Feds, private entities, and others (including in some cases foreign nations) to distribute ventilators as Gov. Andrew Cuomo painted a horrifying portrait of sickened New Yorkers suffocating to death in hospital hallways because there were no ventilators available. ..."
"... Well, yesterday, NYC Mayor de Blasio said that, after a few days of near capacity numbers, hospitalizations have dropped by such a steep degree that the city believes it has enough ventilators on hand, and won't need any more. ..."
Apr 09, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

And now, after the Trump Administration scrambled to ramp up testing capacity and the states worked with the Feds, private entities, and others (including in some cases foreign nations) to distribute ventilators as Gov. Andrew Cuomo painted a horrifying portrait of sickened New Yorkers suffocating to death in hospital hallways because there were no ventilators available.

Well, yesterday, NYC Mayor de Blasio said that, after a few days of near capacity numbers, hospitalizations have dropped by such a steep degree that the city believes it has enough ventilators on hand, and won't need any more.

Now on Thursday, Dr. Fauci is taking to cable news to spread the message of optimism that has lifted US stocks over the past few days: Instead of the 240k figure used by President Trump as recently as two weeks ago, Dr. Fauci told NBC News that if the public continued to stick to the "mitigation efforts", that the death toll might be as low as 60k.

[Apr 08, 2020] WHO can we trust Just when coronavirus gave the World Health Organization its moment to shine, it bottled it -- RT Op-ed

Apr 08, 2020 | www.rt.com

The WHO had been made aware of Covid-19 by December last year. In January, it posted a tweet saying: "Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in Wuhan, China."

Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan , #China 🇨🇳. pic.twitter.com/Fnl5P877VG

-- World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO) January 14, 2020

Then in February, Ghebreyesus declared that there was no need for travel bans, saying the spread of the virus outside China was "minimal and slow." Fast forward to March 11, and Dr Tedros was telling the world that coronavirus was officially a pandemic and that he was "deeply concerned by alarming levels of inaction" as it spread. Days later, he tweeted that the "pandemic is accelerating."

Then, at a press conference, he said that "all countries should be able to test all suspected cases" because "they cannot fight this pandemic blindfolded." Perhaps if countries had been warned about the need for widespread testing sooner; they would have been better placed to implement such measures?

The #COVID19 pandemic is accelerating. It took 67 days from the 1st reported case to reach the first 100K cases, 11 days for the second 100K cases & just 4 days for the third 100K cases.These numbers matter, these are people, whose lives & families have been turned upside down. https://t.co/VydhLBNq36

-- Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus (@DrTedros) March 23, 2020

Obviously, hindsight is 20/20 and it is very easy to criticize a person or an organization for not predicting something after it has happened. But the WHO should have been better prepared for this, not least because it already had experience of the spread of SARS, MERS, H5N1 and swine flu in recent years to draw on. Admittedly, none spread as virulently as Covid-19, but it was obvious from those outbreaks that measures such as testing and restricting travel would help slow the spread.

Perhaps it was concerned about again being accused of overreacting, as it had been by some in response to the 2009 swine flu outbreak. Possibly, it too readily believed the low figures being reported by China during the early part of this year. Maybe it assumed countries were more prepared to deal with pandemics than they turned out to be. Whatever the reasons may or may not be, the fact remains that when the world turned to the WHO, it failed. No amount of publicity stunts, like today's appearance by Lady Gaga, will change that.

WHO will have a special guest at today's #COVID19 press conference: @ladygaga will be joining us to announce the One World: #TogetherAtHome virtual global special on 18 April 2020. 📺 at 15.30 GMT

-- World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO) April 6, 2020

Exactly where in the organization's structure the blame lies is impossible for an outsider to say, but surely the buck must stop eventually with Dr Tedros. His messaging early on in this crisis hugely downplayed the risks and has without question led to a situation that at least had a chance of being avoided. When the dust has settled, and the virus is finally brought under control, a serious question will have to be asked: who can trust the WHO?

[Apr 06, 2020] Coronavirus A Theory of Incompetence

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... The US for decades has as a matter of policy tried to reduce the number of hospital beds, which among other things has led to the shuttering of hospitals, particularly in rural areas. Hero of the day, New York's Governor Andrew Cuomo pursued this agenda with vigor, as did his predecessor George Pataki. ..."
"... In a functional system, much of the preparation and messaging would have been undertaken by the CDC. In this case, it chose not to simply adopt the World Health Organization's COVID-19 test kits -- stockpiling them in the millions in the months we had between the first arrival of the coronavirus in China and its widespread appearance here -- but to try to develop its own test. Why? It isn't clear. But they bungled that project, too, failing to produce a reliable test and delaying the start of any comprehensive testing program by a few critical weeks. ..."
"... Thomas Hobbes argued that life apart from society would be "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short." Outside poor countries and communities, advances in science and industrialization have largely proven him right. ..."
"... Come quietly to The Gap ..."
"... "notions about parenting changed very drastically in the 80's" ..."
"... "the too-common belief that it is possible to run an operation, any operation, by numbers, appears to be a root cause." ..."
"... A sound banker, alas! is not one who foresees danger and avoids it, but one who, when he is ruined, is ruined in a conventional and orthodox way along with his fellows, so that no one can really blame him. ..."
"... it didn't matter ..."
"... our identities as academics are unavoidably embedded in a form of neoliberal hyperglobalisation. We rely on unrestricted flows of (wealthy) bodies across borders. ..."
"... Variable coronavirus outcomes by nation could suggest a combination of elite incompetence, poor individual judgment, a lack of appreciation of risk in all its Rumsfeldian forms, corruption, a desire by oligarchs for autocratic control and being insulated and divorced from actual operations; or underlying cultural and economic factors. ..."
"... My own view is that we can trace the root cause of policy failure back to the dominant values of leadership and the values of the society/culture which spawned them regarding the relative importance of money in determining policy choices regarding public health and safety. ..."
Apr 06, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com
Leaders in the public and private sector in advanced economies, typically highly credentialed, have with very few exceptions shown abject incompetence in dealing with coronavirus as a pathogen and as a wrecker of economies. The US and UK have made particularly sorry showings, but they are not alone.

It's become fashionable to blame the failure to have enough medical stockpiles and hospital beds and engage in aggressive enough testing and containment measures on capitalism. But as I will describe shortly, even though I am no fan of Anglosphere capitalism, I believe this focus misses the deeper roots of these failures.

After all the country lauded for its response, South Korea, is capitalist. Similarly, reader vlade points out that the Czech Republic has had only 2 coronavirus deaths per million versus 263 for Italy . Among other things, the Czech Republic closed its borders in mid-March and made masks mandatory . Newscasters and public officials wear them to underscore that no one is exempt.

Even though there are plenty of examples of capitalism gone toxic, such as hospitals and Big Pharma sticking doggedly to their price gouging ways or rampant production disruptions due to overly tightly-tuned supply chains, that isn't an adequate explanation. Government dereliction of duty also abound. In 2006, California's Governor Arnold Schwarznegger reacted to the avian flu by creating MASH on steroids. From the LA Times :

They were ready to roll whenever disaster struck California: three 200-bed mobile hospitals that could be deployed to the scene of a crisis on flatbed trucks and provide advanced medical care to the injured and sick within 72 hours.

Each hospital would be the size of a football field, with a surgery ward, intensive care unit and X-ray equipment. Medical response teams would also have access to a massive stockpile of emergency supplies: 50 million N95 respirators, 2,400 portable ventilators and kits to set up 21,000 additional patient beds wherever they were needed

"In light of the pandemic flu risk, it is absolutely a critical investment," he [Governor Schwarznegger] told a news conference. "I'm not willing to gamble with the people's safety."

They were dismantled in 2011 by Governor Jerry Brown as part of post-crisis belt tightening.

The US for decades has as a matter of policy tried to reduce the number of hospital beds, which among other things has led to the shuttering of hospitals, particularly in rural areas. Hero of the day, New York's Governor Andrew Cuomo pursued this agenda with vigor, as did his predecessor George Pataki.

And even though Trump has made bad decision after bad decision, from eliminating the CDC's pandemic unit to denying the severity of the crisis and refusing to use government powers to turbo-charge state and local medical responses, people better qualified than he is have also performed disastrously. America's failure to test early and enough can be laid squarely at the feet of the CDC. As New York Magazine pointed out on March 12:

In a functional system, much of the preparation and messaging would have been undertaken by the CDC. In this case, it chose not to simply adopt the World Health Organization's COVID-19 test kits -- stockpiling them in the millions in the months we had between the first arrival of the coronavirus in China and its widespread appearance here -- but to try to develop its own test. Why? It isn't clear. But they bungled that project, too, failing to produce a reliable test and delaying the start of any comprehensive testing program by a few critical weeks.

The testing shortage is catastrophic: It means that no one knows how bad the outbreak already is, and that we couldn't take effectively aggressive measures even we wanted to. There are so few tests available, or so little capacity to run them, that they are being rationed for only the most obvious candidates, which practically defeats the purpose. It is not those who are very sick or who have traveled to existing hot spots abroad who are most critical to identify, but those less obvious, gray-area cases -- people who may be carrying the disease around without much reason to expect they're infecting others Even those who are getting tested have to wait at least several days for results; in Senegal, where the per capita income is less than $3,000, they are getting results in four hours. Yesterday, apparently, the CDC conducted zero tests

[O]ur distressingly inept response, kept bringing to mind an essay by Umair Haque, first published in 2018 and prompted primarily by the opioid crisis, about the U.S. as the world's first rich failed state

And the Trump Administration has such difficulty shooting straight that it can't even manage its priority of preserving the balance sheets of the well off. Its small business bailouts, which are as much about saving those enterprises as preserving their employment, are off to a shaky start . How many small and medium sized ventures can and will maintain payrolls out of available cash when they aren't sure when and if Federal rescue money will hit their bank accounts?

How did the US, and quite a few other advanced economies, get into such a sorry state that we are lack the operational capacity to engage in effective emergency responses? Look at what the US was able to do in the stone ages of the Great Depression. As Marshall Auerback wrote of the New Deal programs :

The government hired about 60 per cent of the unemployed in public works and conservation projects that planted a billion trees, saved the whooping crane, modernized rural America, and built such diverse projects as the Cathedral of Learning in Pittsburgh, the Montana state capitol, much of the Chicago lakefront, New York's Lincoln Tunnel and Triborough Bridge complex, the Tennessee Valley Authority and the aircraft carriers Enterprise and Yorktown. It also built or renovated 2,500 hospitals, 45,000 schools, 13,000 parks and playgrounds, 7,800 bridges, 700,000 miles of roads, and a thousand airfields. And it employed 50,000 teachers, rebuilt the country's entire rural school system, and hired 3,000 writers, musicians, sculptors and painters, including Willem de Kooning and Jackson Pollock.

What are the deeper causes of our contemporary generalized inability to respond to large-scale threats? My top picks are a lack of respect for risk and the rise of symbol manipulation as the dominant means of managing in the private sector and government.

Risk? What Risk?

Thomas Hobbes argued that life apart from society would be "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short." Outside poor countries and communities, advances in science and industrialization have largely proven him right.

It was not long ago, in historical terms, that even aristocrats would lose children to accidents and disease. Only four of Winston Churchill's six offspring lived to be adults. Comparatively few women now die in childbirth.

But it isn't just that better hygiene, antibiotics, and vaccines have helped reduce the scourges of youth. They have also reduced the consequences of bad fortune. Fewer soldiers are killed in wars. More are patched up, so fewer come back in coffins and more with prosthetics or PTSD. And those prosthetics, which enable the injured to regain some of their former function, also perversely shield ordinary citizens from the spectacle of lost limbs. 1

Similarly, when someone is hit by a car or has a heart attack, as traumatic as the spectacle might be to onlookers, typically an ambulance arrives quickly and the victim is whisked away. Onlookers can tell themselves he's in good hands and hope for the best.

With the decline in manufacturing, fewer people see or hear of industrial accidents, like the time a salesman in a paper mill in which my father worked stuck his hand in a digester and had his arm ripped off. And many of the victims of hazardous work environments suffer from ongoing exposures, such as to toxic chemicals or repetitive stress injuries, so the danger isn't evident until it is too late.

Most also are oddly disconnected from the risks they routinely take, like riding in a car (I for one am pretty tense and vigilant when I drive on freeways, despite like to speed as much as most Americans). Perhaps it is due in part to the illusion of being in control while driving.

Similarly, until the coronavirus crisis, even with America's frayed social safety nets, most people, particularly the comfortably middle class and affluent, took comfort in appearances of normalcy and abundance. Stores are stocked with food. Unlike the oil crisis of the 1970, there's no worry about getting petrol at the pump. Malls may be emptying out and urban retail vacancies might be increasing, but that's supposedly due to the march of Amazon, and not anything amiss with the economy. After all, unemployment is at record lows, right?

Those who do go to college in America get a plush experience. No thin mattresses or only adequately kept-up dorms, as in my day. The notion that kids, even of a certain class, have to rough it a bit, earn their way up and become established in their careers and financially, seems to have eroded. Quite a few go from pampered internships to fast-track jobs. In the remote era of my youth, even in the prestigious firms, new hires were subjected to at least a couple of years of grunt work.

So the class of people with steady jobs (which these days are well-placed members of the professional managerial class, certain trades and those who chose low-risk employment with strong civil service protections) have also become somewhat to very removed from the risks endured when most people were subsistence farmers or small town merchants who served them.

Consider this disconnect, based on an Axios-Ipsos survey :

The coronavirus is spreading a dangerous strain of inequality. Better-off Americans are still getting paid and are free to work from home, while the poor are either forced to risk going out to work or lose their jobs.

Generally speaking, the people who are positioned to be least affected by coronavirus are the most rattled. That is due to the gap between expectations and the new reality. Poor people have Bad Shit Happen on a regular basis. Wealthy people expect to be able to insulate themselves from most of it and then have it appear in predictable forms, like cheating spouses and costly divorces, bad investments (still supposedly manageable if you are diversified!), renegade children, and common ailments, like heart attacks and cancer, where the rich better the odds by advantaged access to care.

The super rich are now bunkered, belatedly realizing they can't set up ICUs at home, and hiring guards to protect themselves from marauding hordes, yet uncertain that their mercenaries won't turn on them.

The bigger point is that we've had a Minksy-like process operating on a society-wide basis: as daily risks have declined, most people have blinded themselves to what risk amounts to and where it might surface in particularly nasty forms. And the more affluent and educated classes, who disproportionately constitute our decision-makers, have generally been the most removed.

The proximity to risk goes a long way to explaining who has responded better. As many have pointed out, the countries that had meaningful experience with SARS 2 had a much better idea of what they were up against with the coronavirus and took aggressive measures faster.

But how do you explain South Korea, which had only three cases of SARS and no deaths? It doesn't appear to have had enough experience with SARS to have learned from it.

A related factor may be that developing economies have fresh memories of what life was like before they became affluent. I can't speak for South Korea, but when I worked with the Japanese, people still remembered the "starving times" right after World War II. Japan was still a poor country in the 1960s. 3 South Korea rose as an economic power after Japan. The Asian Tigers were also knocked back on their heels with the 1997 emerging markets crisis. And of course Seoul is in easy nuke range of North Korea. It's the only country I ever visited, including Israel, where I went through a metal detector to enter and saw lots of soldiers carrying machine guns in the airport. So they likely have a keen appreciation of how bad bad can be.

The Rise and Rise of the Symbol Economy

Let me start with an observation by Peter Drucker that I read back in the 1980s, but will then redefine his take on "symbol economy," because I believe the phenomenon has become much more pervasive than he envisioned.

A good recap comes in Fragile Finance: Debt, Speculation and Crisis in the Age of Global Credit by A. Nesvetailova:

The most significant transformation for Drucker was the changed relationship between the symbolic economy of capital movements, exchange rates, and credit flows, and the real economy of the flow of goods and services:

in the world economy of today, the 'real economy' of goods and services and the 'symbol economy' of money, credit, and capital are no longer bound tightly to each other; they are indeed, moving further and further apart (1986: 783)

The rise of the financial sphere as the flywheel of the world economy, Drucker noted, is both the most visible and the least understood change of modern capitalism.

What Drucker may not have sufficiently appreciated was money and capital flows are speculative and became more so over time. In their study of 800 years of financial crises, Carmen Reinhart and Ken Rogoff found that high levels of international capital flows were strongly correlated with more frequent and more severe financial crises. Claudio Borio and Petit Disyatat of the Banks of International Settlements found that on the eve of the 2008 crisis, international capital flows were 61 times as large as trade flows, meaning they were only trivially settling real economy transactions.

Now those factoids alone may seem to offer significant support to Drucker's thesis. But I believe he conceived of it too narrowly. I believe that modeling techniques, above all, spreadsheet-based models, have removed decision-makers from the reality of their decisions. If they can make it work on paper, they believe it will work that way.

When I went to business school and started on Wall Street, financiers and business analysts did their analysis by hand, copying information from documents and performing computations with calculators. It was painful to generate financial forecasts, since one error meant that everything to the right was incorrect and had to be redone.

The effect was that when managers investigated major capital investments and acquisitions, they thought hard about the scenarios they wanted to consider since they could look at only a few. And if a model turned out an unfavorable-looking result, that would be hard to rationalize away, since a lot of energy had been devoted to setting it up.

By contrast, when PCs and Visicalc hit the scene, it suddenly became easy to run lots of forecasts. No one had any big investment in any outcome. And spending so much time playing with financial models would lead most participants to a decision to see the model as real, when it was a menu, not a meal.

When reader speak with well-deserved contempt of MBA managers, the too-common belief that it is possible to run an operation, any operation, by numbers, appears to be a root cause. For over five years, we've been running articles from the Health Renewal Blog decrying the rise of "generic managers" in hospital systems (who are typically also spectacularly overpaid) who proceed to grossly mismanage their operations yet still rake in the big bucks.

The UK version of this pathology is more extreme, because it marries managerial overconfidence with a predisposition among British elites to look at people who work hard as "must not be sharp." But the broad outlines apply here. From Clive, on a Brexit post, when Brexit was the poster child of UK elite incompetence :

What's struck me most about the UK government's approach to the practical day-to-day aspects of Brexit is that it is exemplifying a typically British form of managerialism which bedevilles both public sector and private sector organisations. It manifests itself in all manner of guises but the main characteristic is that some "leader" issues impractical, unworkable, unachievable or contradictory instructions (or a "strategy") to the lower ranks. These lower ranks have been encouraged to adopt the demeanour of yes-men (or yes-women). So you're not allowed to question the merits of the ask. Everyone keeps quiet and takes the paycheck while waiting for the roof to fall in on them. It's not like you're on the breadline, so getting another year or so in isn't a bad survival attitude. If you make a fuss now, you'll likely be replaced by someone who, in the leadership's eyes is a lot more can-do (but is in fact just either more naive or a better huckster).

Best illustrated perhaps by an example -- I was asked a day or two ago to resolve an issue I'd reported using "imaginative" solutions. Now, I've got a a vivid imagination, but even that would not be able to comply with two mutually contradictory aims at the same time ("don't incur any costs for doing some work" and "do the work" -- where because we've outsourced the supply of the services in question, we now get real, unhideable invoices which must be paid).

To the big cheeses, the problem is with the underlings not being sufficiently clever or inventive. The real problem is the dynamic they've created and their inability to perceive the changes (in the same way as swinging a wrecking ball is a "change") they've wrought on an organisation.

May, Davies, Fox, the whole lousy lot of 'em are like the pilot in the Airplane movie -- they're pulling on the levers of power only to find they're not actually connected to anything. Wait until they pull a little harder and the whole bloody thing comes off in their hands.

Americans typically do this sort of thing with a better look: the expectations are usually less obviously implausible, particularly if they might be presented to the wider world. One of the cancers of our society is the belief that any problem can be solved with better PR, another manifestation of symbol economy thinking.

I could elaborate further on how these attitudes have become common, such as the ability of companies to hide bad operating results and them come clean every so often as if it were an extraordinary event, short job tenures promoting "IBG/YBG" opportunism, and the use of lawyers as liability shields (for the execs, not the company, natch).

But it's not hard to see how it was easy to rationalize away the risks of decisions like globalization. Why say no to what amounted to a transfer from direct factory labor to managers and execs? Offshoring and outsourcing were was sophisticated companies did. Wall Street liked them. Them gave senior employees an excuse to fly abroad on the company dime. So what if the economic case was marginal? So what if the downside could be really bad? What Keynes said about banker herd mentality applies:

A sound banker, alas! is not one who foresees danger and avoids it, but one who, when he is ruined, is ruined in a conventional and orthodox way along with his fellows, so that no one can really blame him.

It's not hard to see how a widespread societal disconnect of decision-makers from risk, particularly health-related risks, compounded with management by numbers as opposed to kicking the tires, would combine to produce lax attitude toward operations in general.

I believe a third likely factor is poor governance practices, and those have gotten generally worse as organizations have grown in scale and scope. But there is more country-specific nuance here, and I can discuss only a few well, so adding this to my theory will have to hold for another day. But it isn't hard to think of some in America. For instance, 40 years ago, there were more midsized companies, with headquarters in secondary cities like Dayton, Ohio. Executives living in and caring about their reputation in their communities served as a check on behavior.

Before you depict me as exaggerating about the change in posture toward risks, I recall reading policy articles in the 1960s where officials wrung their hands about US dependence on strategic materials found only in unstable parts of Africa. That US would never have had China make its soldiers' uniforms, boots, and serve as the source for 80+ of the active ingredients in its drugs. And America was most decidedly capitalist in the 1960s. So we need to look at how things have changed to explain changes in postures towards risk and notions of what competence amounts to.

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1 One of my early memories was seeing a one-legged man using a crutch, with the trouser of his missing leg pinned up. I pointed to him and said something to my parents and was firmly told never to do anything like that again.

2 The US did not learn much from its 33 cases . But the lack of fatalities may have contributed.

3 Japan has had a pretty lame coronavirus response, but that is the result of Japan's strong and idiosyncratic culture. While Japanese are capable of taking action individually when they are isolated, in group settings, no one wants to act or even worse take responsibility unless their is an accepted or established protocol.


PlutoniumKun , April 6, 2020 at 7:15 am

Ian Walsh has a good take on it – he ascribes it to a new aristocracy, which has all the vices of the old aristocracy.

Let's chalk this up to aristocratic elites. Aristocrats, unlike nobles, are decadent, but don't stop with that word; understand what it means.

Elites who are not aligned with the actual productive activities of society and are engaged primarily in activities which are contrary to production, are decadent. This was true in Ancien Regime France (and deliberately fostered by Louis XIV as a way of emasculating the nobility). It is true today of most Western elites; they concentrate on financial numbers, and not on actual production. Even those who are somewhat competent tend not to be truly productive: see the Waltons, who made their money as distributers–merchants.

The techies have mostly outsourced production; they don't make things, they design them. That didn't work out for England in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and it hasn't worked well for the US, though thanks to Covid-19 and US fears surrounding China, the US may re-shore their production capacity before it is too late.

I think there is also a lot to be said for historical (and current) memories of crisis. Both South Korea and Taiwan are countries on a near permanent war footage – both have genuine reasons to fear an external attack (this is particularly visible in South Korea – bomb shelters and warnings everywhere). They are simply at a higher level of alert than most countries and take civil defence very seriously. Much the same applies to Vietnam.

I've noticed here that so far as I can see, the response in Ireland has been significantly better than the UK, despite the NHS being a far better system than the rickety, unequal, and notoriously bureaucratic Irish system. I've noticed that a lot of the official response has revived old protocols for TB and Polio – both diseases that ravaged Ireland into living memory – most old doctors of my acquaintance here will tell you horror stories and I grew up knowing people crippled from polio. While in the UK its fair to say I think that such horrors have slipped out of bureaucratic memory. People talk about the War, but in reality they have no real memory of the horrors of seeing neighbours die. So I think there is a lot to be said for simple institutional memory and practice allowing some countries to respond that big quicker. And with this virus even just 2-3 weeks extra preparation could have made all the difference to a country or region.

NotTimothyGeithner , April 6, 2020 at 9:58 am

And they don't have to live where they are from anymore. When Tony Blair wants positive attention, he jets off to the US or Israel. Claire McCaskill lost a statewide race when the same electorate passed a minimum wage increase and legalized at least medical Marijuana. She now opines on Comcast PR about elections.

PlutoniumKun , April 6, 2020 at 10:26 am

That does make a difference. After the Celtic Tiger crash in Ireland, the PM (Bertie Ahern) who was largely responsible ended up banned from his regular pub where he was well known to have a pint every evening after his day job. The owner explained that if he didn't bar him, he'd lose the rest of his customers.

Mind you, like all the others he still makes a living on the public speaking circuit and his chiklit writer daughter got a mysteriously large book deal from a Murdoch owned publisher..

Cat Burglar , April 6, 2020 at 11:10 am

The Irish case is interesting, because the performance of the state in recent times has been anything but competent. The bank bailout and the cervical cancer cases allowed by the botched testing program are examples. I remember a Morgan Kelly lecture where he said, "We don't do competence in Ireland. You start holding people responsible and you might get some of the 'wrong' people."

The Irish leadership stratum so far looks as if it has done a better job than even the US. Your point about the living memory TB and Polio -- in the 50s, my aunt and uncle, visiting from the US, were advised by the priest not to go to mass because of the danger of picking up TB -- rings true. I wonder if the recent fails by the state, that seem to have left the public abidingly angry (the bailout) and aghast (authorities letting women die of cervical cancer ) have shown elites that they have no political room to fail this time, and that they must show tangible success.

DJG , April 6, 2020 at 11:20 am

Plutonium Kun: Thanks for re-posting the Ian Welsh essay, which was posted at Naked Capitalism a couple days ago–and which has been on my mind since I read it then. I recall that when I was living on the North Shore, the belt of rich suburbs north of Chicago, on a whimsy for a few years, the prevailing stance in dealing with others was a kind of genial incompetence. Shortly after, I returned to Chicago for some grit and consequences.

I woke up this morning thinking of this example of the decadence (a term Welsh describes): The serious person Hillary Clinton opining on something or other. Where is serious person, and vision of competence, Hillary Clinton these days? Why isn't she advocating for the little people? Or at least for her slobbering fan club? Or hoping for another soft-ball interview that doesn't ask what it was like to be Bill's bag-man all those years as they raked in the moolah?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-single-payer-health-care-will-never-ever-happen/

Unfortunately, in Italy, the Hillary Clinton of Italian politics, Matteo Renzi, hasn't taken heavy hints to go away.

Synoia , April 6, 2020 at 12:43 pm

It is hard to distinguish between incompetence and fraud.

I personally believe much that looks incompetent conceals fraud.

HotFlash , April 6, 2020 at 2:09 pm

It's not that hard. Follow the money.

divadab , April 6, 2020 at 7:18 am

The incompetence is a symptom of a morally-degenerate managerial class Infected with bad ideas and having no sense of responsibility to anyone other than themselves. They plan out quarter by quarter, loot their companies instead of investing in them, and lie habitually. This is CORRUPTION. Consider that the ex-CEO of GE, with all his hundreds of millions garnered by cheating GE employees and offshoring their jobs, looting company funds to enrich himself and his co-conspirators, was also a tax cheat, buying art for his NY city palace but claiming it was for his abode in NH and evading NY sales tax. Committing fraud to evade his fair share. A better model for what ails US America cannot be found than this scum.

And note that Boeing moved its headquarters to Chicago "to be more like GE". Well they've destroyed the company to be more like the looters and liars and cheats. Nice work if you can get it.

Yves Smith Post author , April 6, 2020 at 7:40 am

This post is not just about the private sector. State and local governments are primarily responsible for public health.

Your theory does not explain Jerry Brown killing the Schwarznegger emergency response apparatus.

Nor is it adequate to respond to the general idea that "never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence". Even though it is obvious that America has a lot of corruption, you omit the notion that a lot of stupid will also explain much of what we are seeing now.

eyebear , April 6, 2020 at 8:09 am

Thank for your article – due to that we humans tend to compare us to each other, we are prone to error. Why shouldn't we do, what the others do?
And that's were the incompetence gets it's grip on. Here in Germany we just avoided the closure of smaller hospitals, because they are not efficient enough – now we are the lucky ones with the higher number of beds and ICU's and ecma and so on.

That's not only luck, but the preachers of the neoliberal agenda have a hardship nowadays – and 'we, the people' have a minimum of two years to redesign our societies.

c_heale , April 6, 2020 at 8:23 am

Maybe the Dead Kennedys had it right about Jerry Brown in California Über Alles

Cat Burglar , April 6, 2020 at 10:22 am

They did have it right!

But remember, too, that Brown showed in his first term, in the 70s, that he was a textbook case of being one of Stoller's progressive post-Watergate Democrats that set aside New Deal programs and regulation. I remember his deregulation of intrastate trucking from that time, which the highly unionized truckers opposed. Come quietly to The Gap

rd , April 6, 2020 at 8:54 am

I think one of the problems is that financialization and securitization of everything has effectively separated the managerial class in both private and public sector from knowledge and experience of actual logistics and execution.Transferring securities with the push of a button is not the same as getting an industrial plant or phone center built, trained, and running efficiently. Companies and organizations with a history of doing this well can completely undo that capability in only a couple of years (e.g. CDC, FEMA, numerous companies taken over by PE). While my examples below are US-based, I think a lot of the same thought processes have been going on in much of the OECD (e.g. Brexit debacle).

Once everything is measured in dollars with a maximum of a 1 to 5 years window, then it becomes really easy to just focus on the little ball needed to become really "efficient" without thinking about the bigger societal picture. I think the generations that grew up in WW I, 19189-19 Flu, Prohibition, Great Depression, WW II had a much bigger picture of life and society. In some respects, things like Vietnam, were an over-reaction (like immune system going haywire) but on the whole, there was a big focus for 50 years on the potential for really big, bad things to happen. Once the Berlin Wall fell, much of that dissipated and so the shocks that come are generally responded to with a combination of bewilderment, lack of general interest unless it personally impacts you, or the immune system going wild (Iraq invasion, torture).

As a result, you get bulls*#t like this from people like Fed Governor Bullard: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/feds-bullard-says-there-is-good-news-for-those-worried-about-the-economys-future-that-universal-covid-19-testing-will-help-restore-economic-health-2020-04-05?mod=home-page

He wants universal daily testing of all Americans to prove daily they can be out and about. This is in a country that can't figure out how to have half the country vote without standing in lines for hours or hasn't been able to figure out how to even get sick people tested and waiting a week or more more for the test results to come back. Granted, the 15 minute tests mean that it might be possible to set up a lemonade stand at the entrance to every subdivision or subway station for people to get their daily test. The logistical undertaking to do this would be mammoth, although there are at least lots of unemployed people who could get several months of training to learn how to do such a test.

Once everything is measured in dollars with a maximum of a 1 to 5 years window, then it becomes really easy to just focus on the little ball needed to become really "efficient" without thinking about the bigger societal picture. I think the generations that grew up in WW I, 19189-19 Flu, Prohibition, Great Depression, WW II had a much bigger picture of life and society. In some respects, things like Vietnam, were an over-reaction (like immune system going haywire) but on the whole, there was a big focus for 50 years on the potential for really big, bad things to happen. Once the Berlin Wall fell, much of that dissipated and so the shocks that come are generally responded to with a combination of bewilderment, lack of general interest unless it personally impacts you, or the immune system going wild (Iraq invasion, torture).

I am a design engineer and I have found it is really difficult to get people to engage in real discussions of potential risks and solutions. Generally the only thing that anybody wants to know is "What will it cost to be prepared?" Almost nobody wants to talk about low probability, high impact events because that generally would not show up in the 1-5 years time limit people care about.

Susan the other , April 6, 2020 at 11:43 am

low probability – high impact events and human nature. We just went thru a surprising 5.6 earthquake – I'm pretty sure we were ground zero because it not only shook the house like a hurricane for 4 seconds, there was also the sound of a very loud explosion. Sometimes earthquakes make booms like that. If it had lasted another 2 or 3 seconds the roof would have come down; the gas lines would have pulled apart; the plumbing would have been disabled and etc. But we just went, Well that was interesting. Lucky there was no damage. Probably not worth taking out earthquake insurance – it's so expensive.

Anon , April 6, 2020 at 1:27 pm

State and local government ARE responsible for public health. The local people running those agencies do not control their budgets. With insufficient funds their experience and qualifications are wasted by scrambling for stop-gap methods. The political leaders (Governors, mostly.) are most to blame. So the next time folks are choosing at the ballot box remember that public health needs vigoroous funding.

As for the incompetence of "managers" and the credentialed, it occurs everywhere in organizations in America, and beyond. A paycheck is essential while "speaking up" is dangerous. See: Captain Crozier. Most folks are neither secure enough financially or academically to voice a contrasting observation.

Yves, this was an excellent post. Decidedly pointed. There are few who dare to take this challenge. That is why NC is so important. Stay safe!

Felix_47 , April 6, 2020 at 11:00 am

Are you sure you don't mean Dennis Koslowsky (spelled something like that) who was a CPA from New Jersey and ran Tyco? At least he did some jail time. The smart ones figure out how to cheat legally by hiring the well connected white shoe Ivy League lawyers. That is not to say that GE was not mismanaged but it really was done in by the finance crisis because Jack Welch bet the company on it which worked really well for a long time until it did not which covered up the fact that manufacturing in the US is essentially impossible secondary to the legal system and the health care system, or lack thereof.

Clive , April 6, 2020 at 11:02 am

If only it was as simple as saying that services operated by the state were fine, it's private capital where the problem lies.

It's not. This is a societal and cultural problem.

There are employer "pushes" towards the deskilling and degrading of levels of operational competence. One is employers ( both public sector and private sector) do not want to pay for training and to retain a body of experienced employees because both of these cost money up-front with a payoff (in the form of competent, knowledgeable staff) that comes only slowly, later. And a churn of staff is seen as the sign, wrongly, but this is what the MBAs sell as snake oil, of a dynamic, healthy organisation which is bringing in (through a process which never seems to be adequately explained) new talent. Plus, of course, most obviously, younger and newer employees are cheaper so your average headcount cost is lower which is usually a management metric -- often one which is incentive-ised through reward.

There are also employee "pulls" -- and again, these are not just observed in the private sector. You see them in medicine, academia and even, most bizarrely, the arts. An example of these employee-instigated causes of a reduction in capability is that it becomes in-cultural-ated that if you spend too long in the same place, you're only doing so out of necessity because you're so useless, no-one else will employ you. So even if don't really want to move onto a different organisation or a different field of work outside your skillset, you feel you have to, in order to avoid looking "stale", "resistant to change", "stuck in your comfort zone" or any other of the myriad of thought-crimes which you don't want, in today's job market, to be seen to having evidence of committing. And also, as collective union bargaining has gone the way of the dinosaur, more often than not, if you want a raise you have to threaten to quit to get one. But again, more often than not, your current employer will call your bluff and let you leave. So you have to have another job lined up to to go to, if you're not to fall into a trap of flouncing off in a huff but having no other work to walk straight into. While your current employer might not, if they were honest, want to lose you, the dynamics of the workplace being what they are, neither side can then climb down from the ultimatums they've just served.

Yes, there are some notable poster-children of how private enterprise has committed suicide through the wanton bloodletting of its skilled employees (Boeing being a recent case-in-point). But even if you cast your gaze in the direction of public employers, this same phenomena can be found in universities, colleges and K-12 schools (where faculties are no longer bolstered by a strong bench of tenured staff, contract and non-tenured hire-and-fire disposable staff are now the norm, I won't even go there on the effect of charter schools) healthcare (even in the UK's entirely public sector NHS, there is huge reliance on contract and agency staff which the COVID-19 crisis has highlighted and the government is trying, belatedly and without any clear indication it can do so in the short term to redress this and avoid being price-gouged). Or federal and state regulators which now simply do not understand the businesses they are supposed to be regulating and have to buy-in external "expertise" (and merely exacerbate the revolving door problem).

In summary, I wish it were so simple to merely say "private sector bad, government good". But the rot has set in from top to bottom across all aspects of how we manage our shared organisational maturity (or, should I say, now, fix our shared organisational immaturity) and whether or not it started in the private sector, it has well and truly spread to infect the public sector, too. This was the unmistakable point of the post, so it bears re-reading it again with a particular emphasis on understanding why this is the case.

Susan the other , April 6, 2020 at 12:00 pm

devolution by automation. the dystopia we didn't see coming. can't help believing that automation itself – even though it has often been, or seemed to be, beneficial – hasn't undermined and/or destroyed what should be a collective human intelligence and contagious creativity that is the real thing that makes us thrive. But it takes a long steady progression and we're all too impatient.

David in Santa Cruz , April 6, 2020 at 12:35 pm

Terrific comment, Clive.

In my experience working as a lawyer in government service for 34 years, I saw this obsession with "new blood" and "innovation" flooding the system with lawyers -- and judges -- who were breezily ignorant of the law, yet supremely confident in their own cleverness.

University faculties dominated by TA's and adjuncts; charter schools taught by 6-week-wonder TFA's; warships piloted by teenagers; Presidents with no experience in government The list goes on and on.

I blame the instant and consequence-free ego gratification of television-watching for this phenomenon.

Laura in SoCal , April 6, 2020 at 1:20 pm

100% on the employer pushes. I've seen this plenty in my 25 years of working in engineering and manufacturing businesses. And no matter how many "systems" and "quality functions" they put in place, experience matters. In has happened several times that even with great and detailed documentation, when a particular machinist retires, a product line starts having quality issues. Several times we've had layoffs for some reason or another and they have to bring particular individuals back because there was some function they did that no one else is qualified or able to do. Also, because we run lean, cross training is difficult no one has the extra time.

Rob Urie , April 6, 2020 at 7:38 am

Prior to the advent of neoliberalism and through it child mortality rates have been much higher in the U.S. than other OECD countries.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/08/health/child-mortality-rates-by-country-study-intl/index.html

It is very heavily concentrated among the poor.

The refusal to provide public goods is capitalist class relations 101.

Yves Smith Post author , April 6, 2020 at 7:48 am

It is disappointing to see these early comments ignore the framing of the post and go for simplistic takes.

I said at the top that this post was about advanced economies that had poor coronavirus responses, not just the US. That includes Belgium, France, and the Netherlands, all of which have much higher fatalities per capita than the US. None of those countries have high rates of infant mortality.

Try again.

False Solace , April 6, 2020 at 1:49 pm

That's a bit optimistic.You could argue Belgium and the Netherlands have already plateaued in terms of new cases and deaths. For France the numbers are not as clear thanks to a one-day spike in reported nursing home cases. But the US has shown clear exponential growth in both new cases and deaths thru today. I don't think the data is in.

For the last week the US has reported 20-30k new cases a day which means the deaths won't hit for another 1-2 weeks. The number of tests is comparable to the other countries you listed, so it isn't a matter of overdiagnosis. The East Coast is the only region in the US doing meaningful testing.

It's not farfetched to think the US will experience a uniquely bad result in terms of health care and economic outcomes because of its uniquely bad health care system and elite indifference. Never attribute to malice or indifference that which can be adequately explained by indifference. Malice is too difficult to prove, and when it comes to enriching themselves, elites are demonstrably competent. What they are, is indifferent. They simply don't care about long term outcomes or their population. For them, everything is consequence free. Coronavirus is just another example in the litany.

bmeisen , April 6, 2020 at 11:36 am

2 models dominate the informed universal health care coverage debate: 1) a purely public (state) model, as in the UK and Italy, in which financing for health care costs is located in the federal budget where it is allocated from a stream of tax revenues and financing sources; and 2) a highly regulated non-profit (non-state) model, as in most of Scandinavia and central Europe, in which financing is located in a pool of premiums and when needed, e.g. for the very young, poor, elderly who cannot afford to pay premiums, state subsidies.

A variation on 2) is a hybrid of non-profits and private, profit-oriented insurers, as in Germany and the Netherlands, in which the mix is critical and is subject to regulation. Something like 90% non-profit, 10% private is IMHO OK though in Germany it might be more like 70/30.

The EU has been blamed for the devastation caused by Covid-19 in Italy. The argument goes something like, the austerity imposed by the Germans forced Italy to reduce health care capacities. The Frankfurter Allgemeine argues today that ECB imposed austerity is not to blame. Rather the purely state model of financing for health care coverage is at fault. The fact is that in the Italian model many stakeholders want a share of the stream of tax revenues and financing sources from which funds for the provision of health care are also drawn. The FAZ notes that Italian state retirement benefits have risen substantially in recent years while funding for health care has been level.

Christopher Herbert , April 6, 2020 at 7:48 am

The rise of the FIRE sectors as a percentage of GDP has been obvious. We are over-financialized. All this has done is over lay a very expensive layer of debt and interest payments on the real economy. This is the bubble the pandemic pricked.

Yves Smith Post author , April 6, 2020 at 7:59 am

Again, this post is not about the US. It is about trying to develop theories as to why some countries responded reasonably well to the coronavirus crisis and others not.

Italy's banking sector, even with its dud loans not written down, is 1.5 trillion euros v. a GDP of about 1.9 trillion euros, or 79% of GDP. Unlike the US, Italy does not have a ginormous securities market nor a big asset management business, so its banking industry is pretty much the only game in town except for government bond issuance. By contrast, in the US, banks are a way smaller proportion of financial activity (they represent <15% of non-farm private loans) but even banking assets alone are a higher % of GDP, 94%.

Your explanation does not fit key facts. Italy, one of the very worst hit countries, is not heavily financialized. It is also dominated by medium and small businesses

NotTimothyGeithner , April 6, 2020 at 9:45 am

Besides the new aristocracy aspects and a general lack of accountability, I do wonder about rates of foreign elites being "educated" in the US. When my parents go to Boston, all they do is complain about how nice it is, but they remember when the nice areas were where regular people lived. Like US tourists think all Europeans take high speed trains to work, how much of Euro attitudes by seeing the rise of enclaves in the US?

I'll use UVA and Charlottesville Virginia, but if you never go beyond Preston Ave (gentrification may have shifted it) away from Grounds, why would a student see poor people or any lower class employees beyond UVA employees who aren't making a living wage? Charlottesville has the highest rate of wealth inequality in the state.

John , April 6, 2020 at 7:51 am

Thank you. You analyze it. For years I have called it "playing video games". Years ago I knew a guy who said it did not matter of what but he had to be a manager.It was some sort of prestige thing for him. Took him out of the common herd in his way of looking at things.
Yesterday, I read Paul Johnson's short biography of Winston Churchill. Churchill did not like desk work according to Johnson and every new task he undertook, he went out and learned the ins and outs of it. He was a relentless inspector and questioner. He taught himself how to lay bricks. He learned by doing and led from knowledge. He made mistakes. He took responsibility. Certainly he was not a typical person, but neither did he sit in an office assuming he knew it all because the model said he did.

vlade , April 6, 2020 at 7:58 am

That is why Boris Johnson is no Churchill. Churchill was in a lots of was a dilletante, but he was an informed dilletante. He had hunger to learn, maybe too much of it to be good at anything.

Johnson's hunger is just to be in the news, to make a history. I do wonder whether he still believes it worth it now, or in a short future as he's being sedated for intubation (which would not surprise me).

vlade , April 6, 2020 at 7:56 am

I do not really have much to add to what you write Yves. The "we lost sense of danger" is something I have thought of for a long time. IMO, every system that loses feedback will crash, sooner or later. We have worked really hard to remove not just the feedback, but any traces of the feedback.

Everyone who asks for *real* feedback is looked at as a weirdo. We need to know shit happens, we need to have bad shit happen to us now and then (speaking as one who had some really bad shit happen).

One place you can learn about society is how it treats its kids. Most of the kids today are way more cosied that even I ever was, and it's getting worse. We want to remove any and all dangers, and we go to anyone who promises us that, even if we really know it's not possible.

But we have to be very careful there. I believe that claims "we need suffering" are bulshit, because most of the time they want to say that suffering is good for us. It's not. It _may_ be necessary to remind us that bad stuff can happen, the same way as pain does. But it doesn't mean we'd use it to excuse suffering.

Steve H. , April 6, 2020 at 8:10 am

: Grand strategy, according to Boyd, is a quest to isolate your enemy's (a nation-state or a global terrorist network) thinking processes from connections to the external/reference environment. This process of isolation is essentially the imposition of insanity on a group. To wit: any organism that operates without reference to external stimuli (the real world), falls into a destructive cycle of false internal dialogues. These corrupt internal dialogues eventually cause dissolution and defeat.

[John Robb, globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2004/05/journal_boyd_on.html]

Steve H. , April 6, 2020 at 8:22 am

Taleb Nassim on Skin in the Game:

For the central attribute is symmetry: the balancing of incentives and disincentives, people should also penalized if something for which they are responsible goes wrong and hurts others: he or she who wants a share of the benefits needs to also share some of the risks.

. . .

And in the absence of the filtering of skin in the game, the mechanisms of evolution fail: if someone else dies in your stead, the built up of asymmetric risks and misfitness will cause the system to eventually blow-up.

[medium.com/incerto/what-do-i-mean-by-skin-in-the-game-my-own-version-cc858dc73260]

vlade , April 6, 2020 at 8:38 am

Taleb's skin in the game ignores the disincentives the skin-in-the-game creates, which are often fat-tailed.

Feedback is not the same as skin-in-the-game.

Steve H. , April 6, 2020 at 9:30 am

I read your use of feedback as >reference to external stimuli (the real world).

With Taleb, I'm reading disincentives as penalties, and that lack of penalty/punishment warps the selection process of evolution. With respect to the post, that has created a lack of respect for risk by those who make decisions.

It can be taken a step farther, that the selection process has created perverse incentives. For example, the bailouts from 2008 made the FIRE sector qliphotically antifragile. In that scenario, risk becomes rewarding.

I want to be careful here about using the word feedback, its ambiguities could be confusing. Given that, I'm interested in knowing what you mean about ignoring the disincentives skin-in-the-game creates. Could you please expand on that?

vlade , April 6, 2020 at 10:07 am

Feedback as reference to external stimuli is ok.

My problem with Taleb's skin in the game is that, as he well knows, it's hard to distinguish luck (good or bad) and skill. How can we punish for luck though?

Think of a judge, who gets, through his skill, 99 out of 100 cases right. But the 100th – which, by pure luck, could be really large case – he gets wrong.

Or, even simpler. Technically, if you do one decision a day, and have 99% success rate, every three months you get somethign wrong (1-0.99^60 = 0.54) more likely than not. Should you be punished for this? If we yes, then people will start takin decisions where alternate history is hard to prove, i.e. you create a selection bias towards "do nothing". You can then be punished for "doing nothing" but most of the time "do nothing" is a safe choice. (it's a specific case of "go with the crowd")

Also, in decision making, context is extremely important (which is why courts go to super lenghts to establish it in judical cases). Taleb should know it, and he should also know that unless context is taken into account _in_full_ then the skin-in-the-game will not be seen as fair. But the problem is, the context can never be fully established, and rarely w/o the participation of the major decision maker. Who will have no incentive to participate. Which will hamper learning from it.

Skin in the game makes sense when you can clearly separate luck and skill, and clearly establish context. Even one of those is rare occasion, both is extremely so.

That said, you can often establish post fact when someone blew up (this is what the various enuiries do). And then you'd treat accordingly. But that's not skin-in-the-game, because again, the enquiry can establish that you acted in good faith, as most people would act at the time – and so assign no blame. So you may "fail honourably".

Skin in the game does not let you fail honourably – because it's not skin in the game anymore (because it can let you game the system again, via doing just enough to pass any future enquiry as "more could have been done, but there's no clear knowing dereliction of duty).

TLDR; skin-in-the-game is an attempt at simplictic solution to a complex problem. Taleb should know better.

Steve H. , April 6, 2020 at 10:58 am

Thanks, vlade. I shall ponder this.

funemployed , April 6, 2020 at 9:13 am

"Most of the kids today are way more cosied"

I'd like to expand on this a bit, as I think it's deeply related Yves' point on risk and perceptions of risk. Far as I can tell, notions about parenting changed very drastically in the 80's when

1) mainstream media companies discovered that endlessly replaying (and sometimes plain inventing) lurid tales of horrible things happening to children was good for ratings and required no real journalistic effort or talent.

And 2) I'm not exactly sure how to describe what I'm trying to say, but somehow both responsibility for rare and terrible tragedies along with childrens' and young adults' agency got transferred to their parents. As if everything that happened to a child or that a child did resulted directly from the adequacy of parenting received.

So rather than cozied (which I think of has having all one's needs met and being protected from awfulness – a good thing), I think many children are micromanaged, isolated from authentic social interactions, and perhaps worst of all, taught that profound questions of morality and existence are best ignored (lest they cause distress). This, along with cultivating an intense desire for approval from authority, seems to have become the default mode of preparing children for membership in the privileged classes.

Somehow though, at the same time, we were also taught that our life situation is also wholly the result of our qualities as people. Wondering about a person's station in life? We were taught not to ask "what happened" but "what kind of person are they?" Are they smart or dumb, cultured or trashy, attractive or loathsome? Unnattractive and trashy but rich, they must be really really smart.

I think this combination of dramatically limiting children's opportunities for growth in competence, confidence, friendships, independence, morality, worldview, and all the other things that go into discovering who you are and where you fit in the world, combined with relentless meritocratic mythologizing have raised a couple generations now that are both terrified of risks yet somehow often heedless of the consequences of their decisions. We're terrified to speak up in a meeting, but if the result of that meeting harms a lot of people, well, not our fault, just how the world is.

All that said, there aren't many power brokers I can think of under the age of 65, so maybe all this generational analysis is beside the point. Have the powers that be always been so old?

vlade , April 6, 2020 at 9:25 am

The powerbrokers are (often) elected by the people. Who may be looking for a father figure, rather than anything else. Someone who would take the responsbilities for them, because they are too hard to bear (you'd argue that some poor don't vote because they don't feel the need to offload their responsibilities on others, but it could be a bit overconvoluted – I think most humans want to dump responsiblity elsewhere).

How to truly accept responsibility for ourselves is IMO one of the most important things we'd teach out kids, and that we're failing to do so (myself included). It's hard, and paradoxicaly, our society made it harder.

funemployed , April 6, 2020 at 9:43 am

I think all I described has been hard on parents too. IMO, parents are only the primary teachers of children in the early years before peers and society take over. To the extent neoliberalism has a pedagogical philosophy, it's that we can't control things we do have power over, and can control things we don't have power over. Love and accept your kids, treat them with respect, listen, help them when you can, and make sure to laugh together from time to time, and you'll be a parent I'd envy the children of.

mpalomar , April 6, 2020 at 11:09 am

"notions about parenting changed very drastically in the 80's"
– Brings to mind a long ago article regarding children raised in hunter-gatherer units, was it Papua New Guinea? who were from toddler stage spared much of the parental policing now considered appropriate. Allowed to play with the machete and roam free around the open camp fire they emerged with far less anxiety and perhaps a more practical and functional risk assessment process than modern kids.
Playgrounds today are foam buffered and accident proofed as much as possible, football and hockey helmets and padding are designed to absorb the shock of contact. Automobiles are seat belted, air bagged, AI driver assisted with back up cameras. Airlines and aircraft manufacturers rely on ever advancing auto pilot systems, a trade off that dispenses with higher salaried experienced pilots for lower paid, less flight tested, dial tenders.
"the too-common belief that it is possible to run an operation, any operation, by numbers, appears to be a root cause." -YS
I believe quantum physics has largely, by numbers alone, drifted off into string theory and multiple universes, all fascinating but of a highly extenuated and dubious relation to anything real.
We have lost touch with consequences through the intermediary remediation of technology and virtual modeling, great tools but they have unintended consequences on human behavior.

Hayek's Heelbiter , April 6, 2020 at 7:57 am

What's struck me most about the UK government's approach to the practical day-to-day aspects of Brexit is that it is exemplifying a typically British form of managerialism which bedevilles both public sector and private sector organisations.

The genetic map of England (outside the major cities) is essentially unchanged since the Anglo-Saxon invasion.

https://www.theverge.com/2015/3/18/8252797/uk-genetic-map-reveals-invasions-regional-identity

As a decades-long American ex-pat living in London, it's taken me a long-time to realize, that despite its modern trappings, England remains a feudal society. The way ordinary individuals feel a lack of agency and still look up to the aristocracy and Oxbridge graduates for guidance rather than trusting their own skeptical instincts and standing up for those such beliefs is astonishing.

The fact that "forelock tugging" (an act of deference to a passing lord) remains a phrase in common usage says it all.

Ps. "bedevils"

Larry , April 6, 2020 at 8:02 am

I've felt that the only thing that enforced competence was the elites credible fear of communism after world War II. They had to do some things for the public lest their wealth be seized by the public. And propaganda was used right up to the fall of the USSR. I was fairly shocked that we then looked to China for all our outsourcing needs. The myth was that capitalism would make China an open democracy. Whoops! We enabled them to become a great power without any credible plan to make them any kind of ally beyond some mutual threat of dual self destruction if a trade war erupts. China is credibly working to become independent of the US with heavy state planning while we bail out and reward failed financiers and abandon all public planning to rent extractors. What I wonder is if people will start to look to another way that will credibly threaten the standard elite disaster capitalism approach that has been the norm for decades now.

notabanktoadie , April 6, 2020 at 8:04 am

A sound banker, alas! is not one who foresees danger and avoids it, but one who, when he is ruined, is ruined in a conventional and orthodox way along with his fellows, so that no one can really blame him. Keynes via Yves

The problem is that the payment system, besides grubby coins and paper Central Bank notes (e.g. Federal Reserve Notes), must work through private depository institutions or not at all.

How then can we have a sound economy when it is held hostage by "sound" bankers?

And are not the banks a form of rentier – who rent the Nation its money supply?

Then where are the proposals of the MMT School to euthanize those rentiers?

oaf , April 6, 2020 at 9:55 am

Please reconsider! Euthanasia is supposed to be kind!; not appropriate in such a case!

Bugs Bunny , April 6, 2020 at 8:23 am

Right out of college, I got a job at a commodities trading firm on a recommendation from my "Political Economics" prof. This was just when the PC started getting incorporated into technical analysis. I learned one of the programs pretty quickly and made a few fortuitous currency trades for some weird clients. One of my thoughts was, "what if you could just make this program run and trade automatically?" I think a lot of people had the same thought. Where has this laziness taken us? (I left after 6 months go to law school but that's another story).

I see this thought trap how to be more lazy as sort of an alienation that happens when you don't have to think about what you're doing anymore but how to get around it, and that gets passed on to others who see that you don't really have to "work" but that it's more about being clever enough to come up with a solution that pushes the whole process of being responsible, reflective and hard working on to something – or more likely someone – else.

I sometimes think we live in a world like Jerry Lewis in the Disorderly Orderly where he's the only sane one in the asylum, constantly tripped up by insanity from doing the job of an orderly.

eyebear , April 6, 2020 at 8:36 am

As of incompetence the Brits bought some corona-tests which were just crap. Seven-And-A-Half million tests just for the bin.

That's were the incompetence has it's home nowadays: 10 Downing St. If everything goes according to plan, the Brits will be redeemed from the incompetence reigning there in these days.

orlbucfan , April 6, 2020 at 8:53 am

Which is worse, out-of-control greed or rampant stupidity? What's wrecked America is a combination of the two. Thanks for the read.

Stephen The Tech Critic , April 6, 2020 at 8:56 am

On "The Rise and Rise of the Symbol Economy":

I think you hit some critical points about "spreadsheet models" and their disconnection with reality. Unfortunately, it's not just the business and finance world that's struggling here. I've seen serious failures along these lines in science and engineering as well. Unfortunately even experts in those fields (who should know better), routinely interpret model results very uncritically.

Like with business and finance, I believe the availability of computers for calculation and plotting has made scientists and engineers a lot more prone to misinterpreting their results or the results of others. I believe visualization of data via plotting software may actually facilitate uncritical interpretation of that data. ("Seeing is believing". ) Before computers, technicians had to construct plots by hand, which often involved close study of the raw data to determine the best design for conveying that data.

Then there's also the problem of romantization of computation. Particularly recently, a great many people (technical or otherwise) erroneously assume that a more complicated model or a model that relies on a broader range of data input will produce more accurate results. In reality, models involve *abstraction* of real things into data, which often requires making assumptions and/or discarding information. Proper interpretation of the model results requires taking the process of abstraction into account, but this is rarely done properly and is often impractical when complicated models or heterogeneous data sets are involved.

Yet another problem is that scientist and engineer livelihoods often depend more on abstract deliverables like "peer reviewed" papers (academia), reports, presentations, demonstrations, etc. The target audience is typically either a non-specialist manager or a specialist who doesn't have enough time to give proper critical attention to the work anyway. Hence, there is great incentive to produce "results" for their own sake and typically fewer negative consequences to the person (in terms of career / money) for "getting it wrong" than for "failing to deliver".

For me these things are fundamental to the reason that I'm not in a satisfying technical career. I could have made a whole career out of doing sciency bullshit. I had a very successful and well-connected Ph.D. advisor and could have been one of a lucky few to score a "tenure-track" position without doing post-doc work. Unfortunately every time I raised concerns about the integrity of the methods, he would blow me off with "we can talk philosophy another time". All he wanted to talk about was how to present the "results" for maximum "impact". Success in that and many other "scientific" fields depends on marketing over integrity, and someone such as myself who values integrity will struggle to match productive output (in terms of prestige and career development) with those who just want to "win".

I should clarify that I don't believe all scientific fields (or sub-fields, really) are incompetent as I describe above. I know many aren't. And it's a bit of a mystery to me why some are very tight and others are full of nonsense. I don't have a good answer.

PlutoniumKun , April 6, 2020 at 10:22 am

When the dust settles I do think the scientific establishment will have a lot of hard questions to answer. The response from official science bodies and advisors has often been terrible (not just with the face mask debacle). Among other issues, I think a fake form of 'scientism' has taken hold whereby models based on dubious assumptions are treated as a form of reality.

Nicholas Nassim Taleb has a paper out on the topic of models. His maths is way beyond my poor skills, but the general point he is making is that there are fundamental problems with models that extrapolate from past events poorly – in particular the often inbuilt assumption that the worst case scenario is the worst previous event. There is an entertaining explainer from a maths teacher in this article .

Ignacio , April 6, 2020 at 1:11 pm

This is not an easy issue. If one is to review the scientific literature, there was no lack of risk warnings from specialized scientific sources on the possibilities of new SARS-like outbreaks. I also believe there were scientists that from the very beginning worried about this. Once we saw how the outburst in Hubei evolved and watched coming data, surely many could go and check that we were confronting a new guy with a very different epidemiological and clinical behaviour compared with SARS. I am not at the forefront in science but i recall commenting this a couple of months ago here, so I can guess some many others did exactly the same. I don't think we were short on scientists able to do a good job on risk assessment. Particularly scientists working in public institutions. What's the problem then? I believe part of it is that we collectively turn a deaf ear to them. I noticed from the very beginning a focus on the clinical aspects of the disease but almost full blindness regarding the analysis of the epidemics. I think it possible that authorities in Western countries took HC experts for advice to their tables but these experts had no idea on epidemiology so they could barely give counseling on the dynamics of the outbreak and couldn't predict the speed of the spread. If someone tried to notice this would have been received with disbelief as all here were in negationist mood. Still many are. Also, I believe tha many thought this was a Chinese thing and felt comfort on the fact that Chinese authorities seemed to control it. Control, hah!

makesi , April 6, 2020 at 10:46 am

There is a parallel in union organizing. Old school organizers do their workplace charts, listing every employee, their relationships to one another, and tracking their support for the union, by hand. Doing so helps makes the organizer retain this "map" in their head. Younger organizers (myself included) tend to substitute databases and spreadsheets for the old hand-drawn version. Not saying these are entirely ineffective–I can speak from experience that they are not. Rather that the pervasiveness of the technological change is across many boundaries. Woe to the revolutionaries who use a google sheet!

David , April 6, 2020 at 9:10 am

A lot of useful things have already been said, not least by Yves, and I won't repeat them. But if you think about it there are a whole series of different issues here, and it's important not to mix them up. For example: how the virus got started, why it spread so quickly, whether it should have been anticipated, whether it was prepared for, what was assumed about it, what was done, how quickly it was done, whether the consequences (especially economic) were foreseen etc. etc. If you're going to argue incompetence (which I think there has been) you also have to have some idea of what would have constituted a competent reaction. Simply comparing countries doesn't really help, because there are too many variables, especially political and administrative ones: the US and China would not and could not have reacted in the same way, for example. So Italy, for example, has always had a weak state (to the point where many Italians have seen the EU as their salvation) and this is probably a more important factor than many more technical ones.
If there's a common thread that links all of these elements, it's dissociation from reality, which is also the cause of the incompetence on display. Globalization, for example, responsible for the speed of the spread and much of the economic dislocation, could only have been forced on the world by people who did not know about, or were indifferent to, the likely consequences. Some of this dissociation comes just from wealth and power of course (how to travel the world and see nothing) but some of it comes from ideology. For globalists, and neoliberals generally, the idea that the market will adjust to meet any short-term requirements (like masks) is not a simplification in a textbook but a statement of belief. So, even if globalists were aware that masks, testing kits and ventilators were no longer made domestically, they would have replied that it didn't matter because the market would provide.
A corollary of the above is that, if the market will always provide, then there's no real reason to plan or provision anything, provided you can buy it fast enough when you have to. Thus, all organizations should concentrate on being as small and "flexible" as possible, doing only those things that are essential, and thus in turn the stifling obsession with process and organizational change to the exclusion of actually, you know, doing things, which is the characteristic of our MBA-ised culture.
And finally, popular and political culture is no longer about anything. Children's books and TV are purged of anything that might seem threatening, and even adults demand a life free from even the possibility that something might happen that upsets them. We no longer have the vocabulary and cultural references to handle collective grief and trauma. Our elites, for the first time in history, have no personal experience of genuine crisis or deprivation, and, since the 90s politics and PR have become effectively indistinguishable. Politics has degenerated into a classically Liberal struggle for power between groups, and political society is divided into smaller and smaller warring tribes, defined by skin color or genital arrangement, competing for the spoils.
There's a lot more that could be said but I won't presume any more on the patience of others. Essentially, though we have been living in Dreamland, and, for all that our elites may think they've been cleverly manipulating us, they have been faster asleep than anyone. Our elite and popular cultures, in other words, have long been full of shit. And that mess you see is what happens when it hits the fan.

PlutoniumKun , April 6, 2020 at 10:12 am

Thats a hell of a meaty post, lots to chew on there and I'd agree with all of it. This virus really has identified the weak spot of so many institutional systems. Its a genuine game changer in so many ways. It will be fascinating (and not a little terrifying) to be able to observe this in real time.

Mike Gualario , April 6, 2020 at 10:49 am

Great post!

DJG , April 6, 2020 at 11:29 am

David:

Thanks for this:

And finally, popular and political culture is no longer about anything. Children's books and TV are purged of anything that might seem threatening, and even adults demand a life free from even the possibility that something might happen that upsets them. We no longer have the vocabulary and cultural references to handle collective grief and trauma. Our elites, for the first time in history, have no personal experience of genuine crisis or deprivation, and, since the 90s politics and PR have become effectively indistinguishable.

I belong to some playwrights groups (one is a kind of old-fashioned list-serv). Many of the writers are waiting for this to blow over, so that they can go back to submitting the same old, same old. Then they may get a production in which the playwright's background is made much of. The work of art matters much less than the world of P.R. that now surrounds the typical rising U.S. writer, playwright, or painter.

What so many of these people don't get is that the New Rococo is over. As you say, "Our elite and popular cultures, have long been full of shit." It has been fifty or more years of Rococo paintings of doilies and flourishes and word-salad on stage.

Ignacio , April 6, 2020 at 12:50 pm

I have these days been writing on a theory that is flying around like an evasive butterfly on the conditions that may have been at the root of this and other recent outbreaks. I am replying to your comment because this is the first question in your well organized set of questions. I think this post touches many points that merit an in depth view and I like yours as well as many other comments here that add more insights. It seems to me very few are dedicating a single neurone to these arguments or at least I can only find them at NC.

As for the origin of Covid-19 I have read a solid narrative that says the origin could be the vulnerabilities of industrial farming practices in China. The world's largest producer of pork meat suffered in 2019 a devastating African swine fever outbreak that decimated hogs and very much reduced the most important source for meat production in China. Whether this resulted in a significant increase in wild animal farming and traffic is not clear because China doesn't provide data on this. Anyway it could be the case that such hidden practices, that I think were encouraged by Chinese leadership, could have increased by a lot during 2019 becoming an important business by itself and a relevant source for food in Chinese markets. This could have increased by much the possibility of a zoonotic outbreak like this.

Susan the other , April 6, 2020 at 1:03 pm

thanks david ("our elite and popular cultures have long been full of shit"). I'm thinking we are far too aggressive as a species to stop to examine our equally aggressive fantasies. What we do best when we are not daydreaming is fight, usually without thinking it through. (So what happened to that instinct when it comes to fighting a virus? We couldn't switch back from the daydream in time?) We are either in some bloody confrontation or we are indulging ourselves in escape. We are totally bipolar. Economically as well. I recommend mandatory therapy, starting with members of Congress. And it wouldn't hurt to use our instincts as capitalists right now to do a government sponsored program to produce testing equipment that is reliable and can be distributed to every household. (Why is Capitalism so AWOL? It doesn't look like the fault of capitalism, it looks more like the absence of capitalism.) Likewise for first treatment – if it's hydroxychloroquine every household should have a current supply. We really shouldn't rely on our schmoozer-in-chief to jet off to India at the very last moment and cut a deal for drugs – which promptly get confiscated by the Indian Government. I mean duh.

rd , April 6, 2020 at 9:13 am

FYI – re your comment on PCs and Visicalc

I deal with a lot of computer modeling, but am also old enough to know how it used to be done with design charts etc. before computeres were available. The design charts were developed using human computers like shown in "Hidden Figures". So I spend time with the junior engineers and scientists teaching them about how the entire infrastructure that they use daily was designed before computers were even available.

The first thing I look at when somebody gives me calculations is how many significant digits they are reporting the answer to. If there are more than 1 or 2 after the decimal place, I go through the entire thing with a fine tooth comb, because that means they don't understand significant digits and the inherent limitations of modeling and are just regurgitating whatever the computer spits out at them. There are often significant errors.

If somebody gives me something to look at that has a detailed computer analysis reported to one or two decimal places and checked with a simple design chart to ensure order of magnitude correctness, it is much easier to check and is invariably more than likely to be usable.

lou strong , April 6, 2020 at 9:18 am

Italy has an historical weakness with the national state structures, and if we look at national stereotypes we are supposed to be naturally messy and disordered.This is reflected in our own expression "fare le cose all'italiana" ( to do things the italian way ) , which is used when somebody acts in a range of ways going from messy , to corrupt ,to shallow ,to disorganised, to tricky.
As for our political and practical management of the Covid crisis, I see now rolling on the usual controversies among the factions of decision-makers, such as the ping-pong of blame between the Lombardy governor and the central government. The issue below ,in my view, is that NHS was regionalized , hence making it difficult a real joint effort and a joint national policy, and any decision on the ground was the result of a political wrestling between them .If there is some link with the article issue is that I tend to think that all the fundamental policies that have been implemented and publicized in the last decades in Italy were based on the idea and ideology of the external constraint . If you go on saying that whatever you are actually doing as a ruling class is because of some external constraint, you are saying that in the end you are not really responsible of you do in front of your citizens.This has little to do with the economical structure, or if it has something to do I don't see it at first sight.
I stopped a long time ago to try to understand whether or not the death count criteria were worldwide standardised, so I apologize if I'm saying nonsense with the following : when in my country death toll was approx ten times less than now, I remember that Italian HPA came out with the official digits that , with 1266 deaths of people with Covid, 2 deaths were with Covid alone.

Alex morfesis , April 6, 2020 at 9:22 am

A simple and probably useless idea is the effect the jet airplane and it's compression of time has had an effect on top dog thinking, creating an illusion of being able to simply avoid risk by running from it. We might also have hit a fulcrum point with financioneers running out of countries to easily exploit and razzle dazzle although traditional legacy media may have hit a ditch in the road the googoylemonstyr is simply still just a glorified electronic yellow pages and bookfaze is the excuse used to explain bad and failed systemization in media operations There are many outlets for information gathering and most people outside the oecd have been imf-ed in recent enough history to not be so easily mesmerized by promises of some mythical sparkle pony happy ending

Finally perhaps also the eloquent ignorance of your correct observation of the notion one can simply PR problems past the newshole and blurb past the facts. There are more lobbyists and PR flax then have ever existed in most parts of the world.

Lastly, and perhaps it is just new to moi, but it would appear, despite the facts most countries outside the big three have multi party parliamentary systems, most have adjusted to a simple two party system with the hand offs then followed with a loud and proud but "loyal approved" opposition

Same old stale bread

My two cents in this 3 penny opera

funemployed , April 6, 2020 at 9:34 am

"In the remote era of my youth, even in the prestigious firms, new hires were subjected to at least a couple of years of grunt work."

I think this is hugely important. I'm a big fan of Lave and Wenger's theory of legitimate peripheral participation: basically that becoming an expert at something requires apprenticing to a community of practice possessing large amounts expertise, and doing increasingly consequential tasks until one gains expertise.

I think one major – perhaps the major – casualty of the symbolic economy was that there isn't any simple way to quantify the years (and in some cases decades) of apprenticeship it takes to become highly competent at a highly complex, highly consequential set of responsibilities. Expertise is obviously highly valuable, but let some other suckers or universities do the training, or substitute a credential, amiright ;)

I'm curious to hear from those of a certain age who are experts at something or other. My guess is that you can all name a handful of people without whom you never would have attained your current level of expertise, and that you cannot name a comparable number of young people that you have similar opportunities to mentor.

Tom Stone , April 6, 2020 at 9:46 am

To get ahead as part of the PMC you need two attributes, ethical flexibility and a taste for eating shit.
Being a psychopath is also helpful.

PlutoniumKun , April 6, 2020 at 9:47 am

In many ways I think this virus has been adept at exposing the weaknesses in nearly every countries system. In China, the policy of governing by way of top down directives, interpreted in varying ways by local governments ensured that the initial response was to suppress news of the outbreak rather than deal with it aggressively. In South Korea the problem was stubborn religious extremists. In japan, a sclerotic and over-rigid bureaucracy. In the US, all three.

DJG , April 6, 2020 at 11:34 am

Plutonium Kun: Agreed.

Siggy , April 6, 2020 at 9:52 am

There are six fundamental questions to which there are two fundamental answers; or there are 479,001,600 permutations that might describe a given circumstance. Taken one at a time, each permutation is partially correct, 1/479,001,600. Your thoughts here avoid the error of examining the errors made in dealing with the pandemic by examining one error at a time and focus on the factor set that drove the errors. There is no simple single factor to be altered. There is a factor set that consists of several risks ignored. There is no benefit, at this moment, in fault finding. Here and now, we need massive testing, we need at least one reliable treatment regime, and most importantly we need a vaccine. Once we have those things we can then examine who decided what and hopefully we can examine what we need to do to preserve protect and defend the grand American experiment in political economy. Our Constitution calls for a Federal Republic that employs democratic means to achieve a representative government of, by and for, the people. As my high school civic teacher taught, you have to read all the words and a multifaceted thing cannot be described by citing only one of the facets. Consider the recent event, Hillary won the vote and lost the election. Your thoughts here address much of what we should be contemplating as individuals and as a society. One might differ with you with respect to one or more of the components; but, taken all together, you point to a cancer that needs to be eradicated. Thank you.

Senator-Elect , April 6, 2020 at 10:08 am

Ultimately, it's a case of power corrupts. Thinking through all of the above, it was all enabled by people in power thinking they could get away with something, trying it and then knowing they can do whatever they want. The power they held let them put greed first, and the lack of real potential deprivation or threats led them to make money (as opposed to self-sufficiency or equality or sustainability) the new god. After all, since when has money not delivered? This is the first time in a long time that money can't buy safety. As Stoller has said on Twitter, the Fed can't print a vaccine.
The corrective is accountability, or as vlade said, feedback. Elites can't just sit in their offices, mansions and private jets all day and fail upward, or sideways at worst. We had a little crisis not 12 years ago, but there was no accountability. So here we are.

Zamfir , April 6, 2020 at 10:11 am

A remark about SARS and South Korea:

Their preparedness did not come from SARS, but from MERS in 2015. That one ended up killing 30 people, not much these days but enough for a large scare. It included hundreds of school closures and the like – it looked much larger at the time. There was also a huge scandal, when it turned out that medical institutions had been hiding infections, and this added to the scare.

The current Korean epidemic response system was set up after that – it's just a few years old. It is not deeply rooted in their history or culture or something

PlutoniumKun , April 6, 2020 at 10:16 am

Yes, I'd agree with this – in fact, this is precisely what the Koreans authorities themselves are saying. There is a lot of nonsense being talked about 'confucian values' and so on – the reality is that South Korea was on much higher alert because of its recent history (similarly with Taiwan, Singapore and Vietnam). This isn't to dismiss the excellent quality of the response which reflects very well on their government institutions and people, but a lot of outsiders are reading far too much into it.

HighDesert , April 6, 2020 at 10:27 am

Perhaps another Minksy-like pro-cyclical flaw in our current system is underestimating the marginal cost of incompetence. We can socialize the cost of the occasional minor disaster made worse by incompetence. Ditto for socializing the occasional cost of a parasitical rentier class. As with all short term thinking, it works until it doesn't.

As you point out, things like offshoring further undermine our ability to assess costs (ex. to the local workers, environment). Out of sight, out of mind.

I want to say that a portion of the electorate bear some responsibility here. In addition to the moneyed influencers, enough of the electorate agreed to put these officials in office. In the calculus of what the voters thought they stood to lose or gain, they believed they came out ahead.

Carolinian , April 6, 2020 at 10:46 am

Great post. My dad used to say "nothing beats experience" and when I was a younger know it all–lover of books and libraries–I scoffed. But now I know he was absolutely right. "No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy." The people making the decisions are divorced from the results and the real world that most citizens live in–from experience. And so we've gone from a country with a genius for the practical–"heroic materialism" Kenneth Clark called it–to one where the elites are going through the motions until it all falls in. It may be falling now.

Susan the other , April 6, 2020 at 1:18 pm

I think this comment is absolutely spot on.

Steve H. , April 6, 2020 at 10:55 am

I'd like to throw a perspective that could be seen as CT onto the barbie, grill away.

This is a use of Howard Becker's Machine Trick: Design the machine that will produce that result your analysis indicates occurs routinely in the situation you have studied.

This assumes that results are (at least in part) due to the machines functioning exactly as intended. National differences of responses are a result of different de-facto policies.

I. The Big Picture.
Rule #2: Go die!
There is a actuarial perspective that letting people die has a net benefit.

Image: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10222313535613412&set=a.1528083088162&type=3&theater

The Greeks and Malthus were aware of overpopulation problems. 1972's Limits to Growth showed that famine was not the trigger for population crash, pollution was. They modelled a crash date of 2055. The climate crisis is quickening.

The elite case for lowering life expectancy has been established:

: Tobacco Giant's Analysis Says Premature Deaths Cut Costs in Pensions and Health Care : Critics Assail Philip Morris Report on Smoking
[nytimes.com/2001/07/18/news/tobacco-giants-analysis-says-premature-deaths-cut-costs-in-pensions-and.html]

Note that COVID-19 targets the same demographic that the Philip Morris report does. Targeting high-energy_usage high-capital_liability individuals give good ROI both in climate and financial terms. This brings in

II. The Middle Shark

Actions speak louder than words. Those with access to elite information behaved differently within the US. Feb 28 the President used the word Hoax, four days later the Fed put the crisis on the same level as 9/11 and the Lehmann fall.

Rule #1: Because markets.

Suppressing the response, both in public perception and in ER's, gave time for the decisionmakers behind the politicians to array their responses. The selfless perspective is this is a geostrategic eruption that must be tended. The venal symptom is elites had time to dump their stocks.

III. The Immediate Threat

A nanoscopic enemy, less than half the size an N95 shield targets. Asymptomatic invisibility, the false negative/positive problems of tests (if you can get them), the horrors of the ventilated. A real threat.

I had previously said that, with the obfuscation and miscategorization systematically skewing downward the perceived incidence of an already blurred enemy, we would have to look at all-cause deaths to really understand the proximate and ultimate mortality. I did not see falling death rates coming. In a complex world there are paradoxical effects. So any evil geniuses are gonna get really frustrated when their plans go awry.

We can already see the opportunistic authoritarians hard at work. I'll close with a couple paragraphs of Boyd, but first a reminder. This comment is a perspective on why some countries had a less-lethal response to this virus than others. In a complex world, simple explanations are incomplete. Boyd:

Remember what I said, without a crisis, they don't have an operation. They've got to have that crisis. Remember what I said last night? Without anomalies, no mismatch. No mismatch, no
crisis. Without a crisis, no change.

Remember I said that crisis is important to them because then they can insert, work the propaganda, tear apart, generate these many non-cooperative centers of gravity.

flora , April 6, 2020 at 11:14 am

What was it Buttegig was saying on the campaign trail? "Chaos is a ladder"? Whose ladder, to what goal?

NoPlaceToHide , April 6, 2020 at 11:04 am

Yves, you say leaders are showing their incompetence managing two jobs, their medical response to Coronavirus and their management of countries' economies. I suggest that perspective can be gained by stepping back further and looking at a bigger job than those two tasks. How well are humans managing the planet's response to the threat of potential human extinction caused by extreme planetary warming (too quickly returning to PET-M).

Where I'm headed: collectivism vs. individualism.
It appears to me that an adequate planetary response (If it isn't already too late. That's a separate discussion.) to the threat of potential human extinction would require a giant collectivist response. Almost all countries would need to be collectively acting together. E.g., efforts would fail if a major economy like China or the U.S. continued its polluting ways.

However, it appears most of our leaders are not collectivists. They appear, instead, to be individualists who have fought their way to the top by competing against other highly competitive individualists. Is it in the nature of individualist leaders to seek and join collectivist activities? Are our leaders actively seeking to join an adequate (rather than symbolic) collectivist planetary effort to reverse climate change?

Instead, it appears our leaders aim to be among the "winners" who will win by being among the survivors in their bunkers in the Hamptons or New Zealand.

I'm wondering about how much the culture of collectivist action, collectivist values, in various countries' medical systems has played in managing their response to Coronavirus. How much has (predatory) individualism contributed to the incompetent management of economies?

We humans have it in our nature to seek narratives, stories, that "explain" what we are witnessing. Stories simplify explanations. Stories give comfort to our minds. We crave that comfort. The two heroes in your two stories are 1.) losing sight of risk and 2.) using symbols to separate leaders/actors from reality. IMHO those are excellent heroes.

Is it reasonable to expect successive generations of individualist humans/leaders to maintain a focus on risk after previous generations appear to have insulated them from previously known risks? I suggest that a collectivist culture would be much more vigilant about identifying risk and preparing for it. For example, the collectivist U.S. military has done considerable work recognizing and preparing for the risks of climate change.

Is it reasonable to expect individualist (predatory) leaders to competently manage the economy of a country when they're so busy preying on their respective parts of the economy? Individualists have found a giant tool, symbols substituted for reality, to exploit/prey on the economies they live in. Is it reasonable to expect those individualists to give up their competitive predatory tools to embrace collectivist ways to manage economies for the benefit of all people in their respective economies?

flora , April 6, 2020 at 11:12 am

Thanks for this great post, Yves. Managers, CEOS, and politicians losing any sense of risk or real dangers sounds right. Promoting people incompetent or unfit for task isn't a problem if there is no risk or danger. They've become the managerial/political equivalent of the anti-vaxers: they believe no danger can touch them because no danger ever has (so far).

BoulderMike , April 6, 2020 at 11:27 am

As a young person starting out in the work world, I was as said above, given the opportunity to do "grunt" work. Put another way, like the old world apprentice system, I was given the opportunity to understand the mechanics of work before moving on to such things as planning and strategizing.
Early in my education I had troubles with math. Someone told me to think of numbers as things, or put another way, every number stood for something in the "real world". Once I understood this, every math problem could be visualized as a real world thing/concept. After learning this I learned to love math, and to apply it well. Word problems referred to real things. Logic and problem solving, thru math, was real. Moving forward to the work world, and with the move from mainframe computers (which I worked with), to PC's, I became proficient in very complex spreadsheets, creating them, maintining them, and undertaking complex analysis with them. But, and someone above hit on this well, unlike today where the numbers are the thing, or end product, I always envisoned them and understood them, each and every one of them, as just being a representation of a real thing in the real world. This I think sets my work generation apart from how things are done today. The loss of connection between numbers and real things is I think what Yves is referring to as how people have become distanced from risk and by default, it almost becomes "not risk".
Lastly, when I was younger I always had a need to understand the real world aspects of anything I did. I had a job in analytics/logistics at an Oil & Gas company, one aspect was gasoline blending. It wasn't good enough to get reports from the field for me, I had to go out to the field and see, touch and discuss the actual work. I loved going to manufacturing plants (refineries), and to the oil rigs. I had to understand everything because how else can you do the "administrative/planning" side of things if you don't have an intimate relationship with the actual thing?
Anyway, great post. It isn't the USA, it isn't capitalism, it is a deeper change in society that knows no boundary or ideology.

Susan the other , April 6, 2020 at 1:27 pm

kinda like there should only be one number, lets call it 3, and the size of it tells us everything about the world we live in – so a big 3 is extremely important and requires mobilization in some way, whereas a little 3 can be dealt with on a smaller scale ;-)

HotFlash , April 6, 2020 at 2:00 pm

An old (both ways) friend took up CNC work at a local maker space a while back. After a year or so he is good enough at it to be able to take orders for custom parts, but is now getting to the 'real world' of numbers. He is, to his indignation, awe, and utter delight, grappling with calculating the rate of taper he needs for some part, "Cotan, sine, tan -- it's trigonometry !"

Dang Me , April 6, 2020 at 12:04 pm

There is simply no risk in the game for elites. Trump was slow to act because his risk was that the stock market would be hurt by his action. He was free to wait because the stock market would get a bailout in the end. The lives of the public were less important and still are. The opinion polls of the voting class are all that matter.

The elites have very successfully bought off the voting class by making them small and insignificant players in the game via the 401(k). They readily take the risk off of elites because they are taking it off of themselves. They identify with elites and see them as their protectors.

Ignacio , April 6, 2020 at 12:24 pm

I think that the dereliction of duty by state actors is a something to be examined in depth. Unfortunately, I am not today in the mood for doing the thinking effort this post merits. I would have wanted to think on one of the symptoms of failure (widespread denialism) and contrast it with the many good observations made in the post. The quarantine and some personal stress has lately been a shock for me. Unfortunately some of my worst worries have come true. I was writing something that could be interesting on the conditions that favoured this outbreak but now I am not sure I can finish it.

Please take care. I am pretty sure I will still need this site to check for some common sense, good, sensible and critical thinking plus relief from the too abundant disingenuous widespread disinformation. So I insist, you gals and guys take a lot of care for yourselves.

Susan the other , April 6, 2020 at 1:32 pm

you too Ignacio; I agree with your "dereliction of duty" – what else could we possibly call it?

Steve H. , April 6, 2020 at 1:38 pm

Thank you, Ignacio. Know that your writing has been a great help to my understanding.

Anarcissie , April 6, 2020 at 1:39 pm

Widespread denialism is not hard to figure. Contemporary ruling classes and attached elites have no regard for honesty and truth, so they lie to the people as default practice. The people for whom they have so much contempt are smart enough to figure out that they are being lied to. Given that the authorities cannot be trusted, one might as well believe anything one wants.

Rtah100 , April 6, 2020 at 1:40 pm

Take care yourself, Ignacio. Check back in with us tomorrow, please. ¡Vaya con dios!

nn , April 6, 2020 at 12:38 pm

Why the Czech Republic isn't bottom of the barrel, I certainly wouldn't hold us up as exemplary case either. There are problems with protective equipment as everywhere else, the testing regime is grossly lagging, contract tracing is nonexistent and just today the leading epidemiologist and sort of top state science guy for this whole thing floated the idea we should let 70 % population who are low-risk contract the virus without explaining how he thinks this could be done without everyone else catching it too.

LAS , April 6, 2020 at 12:52 pm

I would not depict you as exaggerating about the change in posture toward risks. This was a very good essay. The change in posture about risks was enabled because typically big political donars (smallish minority) get bailed out of their troubles while those with lessor political influence (the working poor and middle class) get crushed.

BTW, seduction is the one thing Pres. Trump is really good at. Every news conference of his I happen to catch (not my objective), it is marvelous, fascinating to watch how he operates to seduce. It is what he does, even more fundamental than lying.

The lack of investment in public health has been so long standing that it is not the least surprising to me that the USA has done poorly in pandemic preparation. I knew we had deeply compromised capacity to respond. I am rather surprised by all the valient fighting for lives now going on by many health care workers and a few politicians. To me, I feel there is a mustard seed of humanism and hope in this world because we've purposely crashed our economies to try and slow transmission, save lives and health care from imploding totally. It is not a uniform sentiment, but it exists. It surprises me and am glad for it. Still, the disadvantaged are going to fare worse, suffer worse on account of the risks that others neglected.

Musicismath , April 6, 2020 at 1:04 pm

we've had a Minsky-like process operating on a society-wide basis: as daily risks have declined, most people have blinded themselves to what risk amounts to and where it might surface in particularly nasty forms. And the more affluent and educated classes, who disproportionately constitute our decision-makers, have generally been the most removed.

I see something very similar happening in academia. We align our identities with our institutions and think in very a short-term, metric-based fashion, seeing "success" (for instance) in terms of student recruitment (tuition fees paid in). Moreover, we're encouraged above all to be global in outlook: we look forward to our perennially "busy" international conference seasons and we emphasise the global and the transnational over the merely local or national (denigrated as narrow, provincial, and ideologically suspect). We like to see ourselves as mobile subjects, bodies in constant motion, our minds Romantically untethered from the confines of any one nation state.

So our identities as academics are unavoidably embedded in a form of neoliberal hyperglobalisation. We rely on unrestricted flows of (wealthy) bodies across borders. Our institutions (or many of them) have become dependent on international students and their superior fee-paying ability compared with merely "domestic students." We might agree in principle with ideas of a GND, say, or take an ecocritical approach to a novel or a play, but we're certainly not going to cut back on the number of international conferences we attend. Indeed, many of us go further. We see this form of globalisation, and the benefits that accrue to us and our institutions from it, as a form of moral necessity : something it isn't possible even to argue against in good faith. Hence our loud assent to principles like open borders and always-on mass migration. We have to keep those lucrative international students flooding in, after all. (Not that we'd ever put it in terms as crassly material as that; after all, we don't work in university administration .)

Our commitment to the global as a form of moral mission has left us completely unprepared for what's currently unfolding. We are utterly unused to considering the material constraints of the economy our livelihoods depend on; that globalisation might come back to bite us; that the very aircraft that carry us across the world to conference destinations and field work sites would one day turn off the spigot of endlessly mobile bodies our careers and identities depend on. Hence the reason why a lot of my colleagues are so lost right now. They're so used to living on a purely symbolic (or moral-symbolic) level that the materiality of this virus and its consequences seems like a crude insult. Many stubbornly hold on to their old commitments, unwilling to admit that the world might have changed. In this respect, I think of this post over at Crooked Timber, where John Quiggin (an economist I have a great deal of respect for) simply cannot bring himself to confront the possibility that the open borders dream might be dead.

Where we go from here, I have no idea. But the fact that international and Erasmus students might be gone for the foreseeable future, and the major implications this will have for the financial viability or our universities, seems to be slowly sinking in. But the fact that the "export education" model was a disastrous wrong turn will take much longer to be accepted, I think, because of the widespread commitment I've been talking about here to the principle of the global as a form of moral necessity.

Chauncey Gardiner , April 6, 2020 at 1:30 pm

Intriguing question and hypothesis regarding the reasons behind the variability in coronavirus infection and mortality rates among nations.

Variable coronavirus outcomes by nation could suggest a combination of elite incompetence, poor individual judgment, a lack of appreciation of risk in all its Rumsfeldian forms, corruption, a desire by oligarchs for autocratic control and being insulated and divorced from actual operations; or underlying cultural and economic factors.

It could also suggest that other factors either singularly or in combination played a role, including intentionality based on misjudgment of the agnostic nature of the virus regardless of demographics, economics and social class; or simply denial of an emerging public health threat by political leadership that reflected their own psychological characteristics and cognitive biases that led to a two month delay in implementing containment and control policy measures.

While they played a role, don't know that blaming the variability among nations entirely on a narrow set of insular public and private sector leaders who relied on computer spreadsheets to assess ROI, NPV of alternatives, payback periods, cost vs. benefit analysis, JIT inventory management of PPE; and the guidance of financial markets is an all-encompassing answer. Why exactly did they rely on those spreadsheets?

My own view is that we can trace the root cause of policy failure back to the dominant values of leadership and the values of the society/culture which spawned them regarding the relative importance of money in determining policy choices regarding public health and safety.

Unfortunately I expect the social and economic effects of this pandemic and the policy choices that increased its severity are going to be with us for some time.

[Apr 06, 2020] U.S. was not adequately prepared for pandemic, says J.P. Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon

Apr 06, 2020 | www.marketwatch.com

The U.S. was not adequately prepared for the current coronavirus pandemic and needs to address the lack of planning to better prepare for future crises, J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. Chief Executive Jamie Dimon said Monday.

In his annual letter to shareholders, Dimon said he hoped America will "roll up its sleeves" and start to attack its problems, including a costly health-care system, unequal access to education, a litigation and regulatory system that burdens small business, failed immigration policies, and ineffective infrastructure, among shortcomings. The share of wages for the bottom 30% of Americans has been falling, he said, a problem that needs to be acknowledged if it is to be fixed

"There should have been a pandemic playbook," he wrote. Likewise, he added, every problem he noted "should have detailed and nonpartisan solutions."

" 'While conditions may sometimes be unusual and difficult, we are functioning smoothly. In fact, over the last month in certain parts of our company, we've had the highest volume and transaction totals we have ever seen.'

[Apr 06, 2020] Reports about failures of the US government in handing the coronavirus epidemics are now a genre

Notable quotes:
"... Washington Post ..."
"... Washington Post ..."
"... I've seen this posted everywhere; article after article in the mainstream media telling us to stop worrying about the coronavirus. ..."
"... Washington's reputation for expertise has been one of the greatest sources of its power. The coronavirus pandemic may end it for good. ..."
"... Orinoco Tribune ..."
"... Yale News ..."
"... How to set up an ICU - LBR ..."
Apr 06, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Prof K , Apr 5 2020 21:06 utc | 60

Failure of government reports are now a genre:

The long delay in the U.S. reaction has led to a urgent need for personal protection equipment. The result is a new 'wild west' where stealing and cheating to get PPE is the new norm:

The neoliberal transformation of the state is also on display with regards to the distribution of medical supplies. The USG is distributing much needed supplies to private commercial entities, which then play off various states, municipalities and hospitals against each other in bidding wars. This is what "public-private partnerships" and "new public management" have led to: a thorough abdication of institutional responsibility and capacity-building by the state, which itself has been devoured internally by market principles.

Without an analysis of capitalism as the central issue in the American crisis we can't understand how things are playing out.

Stephen Walt gets many things right but he has no sense of the political economy of the American crisis.

Why? Because his realist theory is bereft of any sociology and political economy.

Prof K , Apr 5 2020 21:58 utc | 68

@james

The thing with the billionaires is that they have demanded and benefitted from the hollowing out of the state in the neoliberal period, and then they exploit moments of state crisis to reassert their "importance" (and our dependence on them).

It's a vicious circle, and it's quasi feudal.

[Apr 06, 2020] Captain Crozier Was Right, And His Sailors Knew It

Apr 06, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

So he sounded the alarm, sending a letter to 19 senior military officials. The gist of that letter was a recommendation to disembark and isolate the Roosevelt's crew, treating those infected and subjecting the entire ship to a thorough cleaning to eliminate the virus. "We are not at war," Crozier wrote. "Sailors do not need to die. If we do not act now, we are failing to properly take care of our most trusted asset -- our Sailors." While the ship's operational readiness would momentarily suffer, Crozier was intent on ensuring that none of the men and women under his command would "perish as a result of this pandemic unnecessarily."

Today, of course, many Americans are dying unnecessarily through the negligence of leaders at all levels. In the weeks to come, negligence will claim the lives of many more. Crozier stands out as one leader who was quick to assess the danger at hand and to recommend prompt and decisive action.

For this he was fired. Needless to say, his letter leaked. Navy officials were thereby embarrassed. While eventually taking the actions not unlike those that Crozier had recommended, they gave him the axe. According to acting Navy secretary Thomas B. Modly, himself a Naval Academy graduate, Crozier lost his job because the Coronavirus outbreak "overwhelmed his ability to act professionally."

That's one opinion. Mine differs. Faced with a perplexing leadership challenge, Crozier made a very tough call: This was one instance, he concluded, where Men should come before Mission, while he unhesitatingly placed his own career interests last. His superiors, up to and including Acting Secretary Modly, ought to have applauded his actions. That they did not calls into question their own good judgment.

... ... ...

Of course, my own opinion matters not at all. On the other hand, my guess is that for Crozier the opinion of his sailors matters quite a lot. As he left his ship for the last time, in a moving display of support for their former skipper, they gathered spontaneously to give him a rousing sendoff. Crozier left with their cheers ringing in their ears. The men and women assigned to the USS Theodore Roosevelt know professionalism when they see it.


kouroi 15 hours ago

Another point of discussion here is The Mission. Me thinks the mission of TR was to show force, intimidate and cower the Chinese. A very worthwhile job in the time of pandemic. While the good captain said that the US is not at war, maybe the higher ups know better and the US is indeed at war with a handful of countries in that area... and in that case The Mission must take precedence, eh?!
KevinS 14 hours ago
BUT if he had killed civilians, taken pictures with their dead bodies, had every member of his unit testify against him and been found guilty of war crimes, Trump would have his back!
daveclay 14 hours ago
He didn't even inform his immediate superior, who lived feet away. He communicated outside his chain-of-command classified information (yes, mission-readiness is classified.) He absolutely should have been fired, and also brought up on charges. I expect this guy got his foot in the door to command via his fealty to Obama, instead of his actual suitability for command.
FL Transplant an hour ago
Crozier graduated from the Naval Academy in 1992. In his 28 years of military service he's been a rotary wing pilot (SH-60s), a fixed wing pilot (F-18s), been the exec (second in command) of a Nimitz-class carrier USS Ronald Reagan), and the the captain of a major ship (USS Blue Ridge) (Command of a CVN requires both aviation and ship command; his career path is typical of those groomed for command of a CVN). He's a graduate of the Naval War College.

I'll go out on a limb here, but considering his background I'm comfortable thinking that CAPT Crozier understands the chain of command, OPSEC, formal vs informal means of communication, who to address a message or email to, what items should be and shouldn't be in an unclassified email, realized the Carrier Battle Group's commander was embarked along with him and he could walk down the hall to discuss concerns with him, and all the other items people are raising.

The question should be why did someone with his background and experience consider it necessary in a peacetime deployment to act as he did to protect his crew, taking actions he had to have known would result in his being relieved of command and sacrificing his career. If those above him considered the sickness and death of a number of his crew, along with reducing the ship and its embarked air wing to an ineffective token, to be an unavoidable but necessary price to pay for the boat to continue on its deployment without alteration they need to come forward and say so. I have yet to read any rationale from the navy's civilian leadership (or military, for that matter; the CNO's office has been silent) where they have done anything other than note how bad he made them look.

John S. 40 minutes ago
I believe that Colonel Bacevich is right on point with one small error. That is that Captain Crozier's action wasn't necessarily placing mission behind the men. The Navy will keep it secret, of course, but a carrier underway with a large fraction of its crew sick, to some degree, is just as non-mission capable as one sitting in port.

[Apr 06, 2020] Notwithstanding the current occupant of the White House, Crozier was correct

Captain Crozier was in an untenable catch-22 situation. Would the USS Roosevelt have suffered a similar casualty if it's skipper stayed within his chain of command in attempting to address the burgeoning virus aboard that very well may have impacted it's crews ability to operate safely? Capt Crozier's naval career was damned if he did and damned if he didn't (ie catch-22). Capt Crozier made the right decision in putting the health/lives of sailors aboard the Roosevelt ahead of 7th Fleets need to check boxes.
Notable quotes:
"... I am circling around to the view that Crozier's actions were correct, honorable, and laudable, and that they also created a situation that made it impossible for the Navy, notwithstanding the current occupant of the White House, to keep him in his position. ..."
"... The difference between a competent administration and the one we have is that Crozier would not have felt compelled to go outside the chain of command, the SecNav would not be "acting," and the Acting SecNav would not have been so terrified of his own President that he would have acted precipitously against the captain. ..."
"... There is a disheartening present trend on who is promoted (and what comprises their value set) within organizations in America at present. ..."
Apr 06, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Portland Sooner4 hours ago

Robert Farley at LGM has an interesting post on Crozier,
I am circling around to the view that Crozier's actions were correct, honorable, and laudable, and that they also created a situation that made it impossible for the Navy, notwithstanding the current occupant of the White House, to keep him in his position.

The difference between a competent administration and the one we have is that Crozier would not have felt compelled to go outside the chain of command, the SecNav would not be "acting," and the Acting SecNav would not have been so terrified of his own President that he would have acted precipitously against the captain.

But decisions with strategic consequences should lie firmly with the very senior leadership of the armed forces, and the civilians that the leadership serves.

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/04/crozier-considerations

Tom Sadlowski Portland Sooneran hour ago
Thank you for that link. I agree with that assessment, and I would extend that circumstance to other departments within our government, and into other sectors like business, education, and non-profits. There is a disheartening present trend on who is promoted (and what comprises their value set) within organizations in America at present.

[Apr 06, 2020] Trump Weighs Legal Action Against China Over PPE Hoarding As International 'Mask Wars' Heat Up

Apr 06, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Trump Weighs Legal Action Against China Over PPE Hoarding As International 'Mask Wars' Heat Up by Tyler Durden Mon, 04/06/2020 - 12:55 The Trump administration is considering legal action against China after leading US manufacturers of medical safety gear say Beijing has prohibited them from exporting goods in what the New York Post says was a bid to "corner the world market" in personal protective equipment (PPE).

"In criminal law, compare this to the levels that we have for murder," said Trump re-election campaign senior legal adviser, Jenna Ellis, who says that legal options include filing a complaint with the European Court of Human Rights or working 'through the United Nations."

"People are dying. When you have intentional, cold-blooded, premeditated action like you have with China, this would be considered first-degree murder, " she added.

Executives from 3M and Honeywell told US officials that the Chinese government in January began blocking exports of N95 respirators, booties, gloves and other supplies produced by their factories in China , according to a senior White House official.

China paid the manufacturers their standard wholesale rates, but prohibited the vital items from being sold to anyone else , the official said.

Around the same time that China cracked down on PPE exports , official data posted online shows that it imported 2.46 billion pieces of "epidemic prevention and control materials" between Jan. 24 and Feb. 29, the White House official said. - New York Post

In total, nearly $1.2 billion in gear - which included over 2 billion masks and 25 million "protective clothing" items which came from EU countries, along with Australia, Brazil and Cambodia according to the White House official.

"Data from China's own customs agency points to an attempt to corner the world market in PPE like gloves, goggles, and masks through massive increased purchases -- even as China, the world's largest PPE manufacturer, was restricting exports," they added.

'Mask wars'

The shortage of vital protective equipment has pitted neighboring countries - and even US states - against each other, resulting in accusations of theft and modern piracy, according to the CBC . The United States, in particular, has been accused of stymying efforts by allies to procure said equipment - by allegedly attempting to scuttle European deals for purchases from China, as well as attempting to halt exports of US-made N95 masks to Canada and Latin America last week.

That said, a Berlin senator who accused the US of "piracy" by diverting a shipment of protective masks slated for delivery in the German capital has reversed his position - saying that no US firms were involved in the case of the still-missing masks.

Now the WashPost has corrected the story. cc: @jeffmason1 https://t.co/5dnkAMJnie

-- Richard Grenell (@RichardGrenell) April 4, 2020

The CBC suggests that 'the apparent desperation of some of the wealthiest countries on earth' comes as a surprise which has 'justifiably raised eyebrows in less fortunate parts of the world' which are now preparing for coronavirus to hit, yet with a fraction of the resources.

Striking selfishness

"It's normal for countries to take care of their own citizens first," said University of Ottawa professor of international affairs and former Trudeau adviser, Roland Paris - who added that the selfishness and lack of coordination among leading countries "is striking."

"We're unfortunately seeing a mad scramble to grab whatever's available, to hell with the other guy," added Paris, who's apparently unfamiliar with game theory.

Even more stark, the mask wars have seen American and other buyers scuttling European and Brazilian deals, some even snatching shipments already promised to other jurisdictions by outbidding them -- even "on the tarmac" as planes prepared to take off. Some shipments reportedly just disappear. - CBC

Not just masks...

While global PPE supplies have run critically short, nearly half the supply of hydroxychloroquine - the Trump-touted treatment for COVID-19, comes from India - which has banned exports of all form of the 'game-changing' drug .

Consequently - while China is without a doubt the biggest antagonist to the US, India is beginning to grate on Trump's nerves despite his nominally cordial relationship with Modi. According to data compiled by Bloomberg Intelligence, 47% of the U.S. supply of the drug last year came from India makers. Only a handful of suppliers in the top 10 are non-Indian, such as Actavis, now a subsidiary of Israeli generics giant Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. Still, it's likely that some of their production facilities are nevertheless located in India.

India's export ban on the drug is aimed at ensuring it has enough supply for domestic use after the American president's endorsement sparked global stockpiling of the medication. Now, Trump's decision to tout the drug will cause major shortages in the US.

Imagine if the United States hadn't exported the manufacture of just about everything?

[Apr 06, 2020] Peter Navarro Explodes At Fauci In Heated Showdown Over Hydroxychloroquine

Notable quotes:
"... Washington Times ..."
"... Washington Times ..."
Apr 05, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com
White House economic adviser got into a massive argument with the coronavirus task force's Anthony Fauci over the doctor's ongoing resistance to the use of hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, despite reports of the drug's widespread efficacy.

Via Axios :

According to the report, towards the end of the meeting Hahn began a discussion of the commonly used malaria drug hydroxychloroquine - which was recently rated the ' most effective therapy ' for coronavirus according to a global survey of more than 6,000 doctors .

After Hahn gave an update on various trials and real-world use of the drug, Navarro got up and dropped a stack of folders on the table to pass around .

According to Axios 's source, " the first words out of his [Navarro's] mouth are that the studies that he's seen, I believe they're mostly overseas, show 'clear therapeutic efficacy,' " adding "Those are the exact words out of his mouth.

Fauci - who's not got his own Twitter hashtag, #FireFauci - began pushing back against Navarro, repeating his oft-repeated contention that 'there's only anecdotal evidence' that the drug works against COVID-19.

Navarro exploded - after Fauci's mention of anecdotal evidence "just set Peter off." The economic adviser shot back "That's the science, not anecdote," while pointing to the stack of folders on the desk, which included the results of studies from around the world showing its efficacy.

Here's what unfolded next, via Axios :

Navarro started raising his voice, and at one point accused Fauci of objecting to Trump's travel restrictions, saying, "You were the one who early on objected to the travel restrictions with China," saying that travel restrictions don't work. (Navarro was one of the earliest to push the China travel ban.)

According to a source familiar with the coronavirus task force, "There has never been a confrontation in the task force meetings like the one yesterday," adding "People speak up and there's robust debate, but there's never been a confrontation. Yesterday was the first confrontation."

Meanwhile, 37% of 6,227 doctors across 30 countries felt the drug was the "most effective therapy" out of 15 options in treating coronavirus, according to a poll reported by the Washington Times .

The drug has been prescribed in 72% of cases in Spain, 49% in Italy, 41% in Brazil, 39% in Mexico, 28% in France, and 23% in the USA . Overall, 19% of physicians have prescribed the drug for high-risk patients, and 8% for low-risk patients.

More from the Sermo poll (via the Washington Times )

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Sermo CEO Peter Kirk called the polling results a "treasure trove of global insights for policy makers."

"Physicians should have more of a voice in how we deal with this pandemic and be able to quickly share information with one another and the world," he said. "With censorship of the media and the medical community in some countries, along with biased and poorly designed studies, solutions to the pandemic are being delayed."

The survey also found that 63% of U.S. physicians believe restrictions should be lifted in six weeks or more, and that the epidemic's peak is at least 3-4 weeks away.

The survey also found that 83% of global physicians anticipate a second global outbreak, including 90% of U.S. doctors but only 50% of physicians in China.

On average, U.S. coronavirus testing takes 4-5 days, while 10% of cases take longer than seven days. In China, 73% of doctors reported getting rest results back in 24 hours.

In cases of ventilator shortages, all countries but China said the top criteria should be patients with the best chance of recovery (47%), followed by patients with the highest risk of death (21%), and then first responders (15%) .

[Apr 05, 2020] In the land of 'distinguished epidemiologists' it is useful to distinguish who is already bought and who is not yet

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... will know exactly which professor, non-profit boss, esteemed expert, talks sense outta a brain that absorbs information & devises answers, and which ones are little more than industry shills who got lucky once early in their career, who are the notorious plagiarists, who are better at politicking than doctoring etc. ..."
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A User , Apr 2 2020 23:51 utc | 143

Out in the land of 'distinguished epidemiologists' the types who are charged with doing the hands on work of developing counters to this virus, will know exactly which professor, non-profit boss, esteemed expert, talks sense outta a brain that absorbs information & devises answers, and which ones are little more than industry shills who got lucky once early in their career, who are the notorious plagiarists, who are better at politicking than doctoring etc.

[Apr 05, 2020] More like intel agency ass covering or gross incompetancy of Trump administration?

Apr 05, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

bevin , Apr 2 2020 16:32 utc | 8

Philip Giraldi knows who to blame:
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/04/02/another-expensive-war-another-intelligence-failure/

"...the intelligence agencies were warning about information derived from medical sources in China that suggested viruses were developing that might become a pandemic, but the politicians, most particularly those in the White House, chose to take no action. He writes that " the Trump administration has cumulatively failed, both in taking seriously the specific, repeated intelligence community warnings about a coronavirus outbreak and in vigorously pursuing the nationwide response initiatives commensurate with the predicted threat. The federal government alone has the resources and authorities to lead the relevant public and private stakeholders to confront the foreseeable harms posed by the virus. Unfortunately, Trump officials made a series of judgments (minimizing the hazards of COVID-19) and decisions (refusing to act with the urgency required) that have needlessly made Americans far less safe."


"The article cites evidence that the intelligence community was collecting disturbing information on possibly developing pathogens in China and was, as early as January, preparing analytical reports that detailed just what was happening while also providing insights into how devastating the global proliferation of a highly contagious and potential lethal virus might be. One might say that the intel guys called it right, but were ignored by the White House, which, per Zenko, acted with "unprecedented indifference, even willful negligence...."

c1ue , Apr 2 2020 18:32 utc | 36

@bevin #8
In January? Really? Seems like the highly paid and budgeted intelligence agencies should be able to do a better job of predicting the nCOV threat before China instituted a shutdown on January 23 due to its view that nCOV was a problem.

Frankly, seems more like intel agency ass covering than anything else.

[Apr 05, 2020] The KN95 mask is a Chinese alternative to the scarce N95 mask, but the FDA refuses to allow it into the country

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JC , Apr 2 2020 20:17 utc | 65

The KN95 mask is a Chinese alternative to the scarce N95 mask, but the FDA refuses to allow it into the country.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kenbensinger/coronavirus-kn95-masks-us-wont-import-china

Anyone know why KN95 banned?


A.L. , Apr 2 2020 20:49 utc | 78

Additional comments regarding Chinese KN95 and why it's banned in 'murica

Getting type approval means paying for certification so a lot of domestic chinese brands won't bother going for EN or NIOSH as those markets are stitched up by big names like 3M.

Some lesser brands or importers OEM them from China but will pay for certification for US NIOSH for example, they would have their branding on it and probably contractual limitation on market exclusivity, even though they're probably pumped off the same production line.

and because they're made by suppliers serving the domestic market in China, they're about 30% - 40% cheaper than N95

so it begs the question, in times like these why wouldn't you allow a temporary standards equivalency recognition?

The only motivation I can see beyond red tape is the KN95 masks generally will have Chinese printing on them (brand, model, certification etc) and how would the US narrative go when everyone is wearing Chinese masks on the streets?

A.L. , Apr 2 2020 20:30 utc | 73
@JC 65

becoz 'MURICA

mask standards comparison

they're pretty much the same.

William Gruff , Apr 2 2020 21:07 utc | 82
You can still order KN95 masks from AliExpress .

[Apr 04, 2020] WATCH Trump's coronavirus task force gives update at White House

That was one of the worst decisions Trump administration made. Now they change their stance. Better later then never...
Notable quotes:
"... Part of the reason was to preserve medical-grade masks for health care workers who desperately need them at a time when they are in continuously short supply. ..."
Apr 04, 2020 | www.youtube.com

The C.D.C. has recommended that all Americans wear cloth masks if they go out in public. This is a shift in federal guidance reflecting new concerns that the coronavirus is being spread by infected people who have no symptoms .

Until now, the C.D.C., like the W.H.O., has advised that ordinary people don't need to wear masks unless they are sick and coughing.

Part of the reason was to preserve medical-grade masks for health care workers who desperately need them at a time when they are in continuously short supply.

Masks don't replace hand washing and social distancing.

[Apr 04, 2020] Unmasking the Truth on Masks to Protect Against Coronavirus Fire the Surgeon General

Apr 04, 2020 | wallstreetonparade.com

Unmasking the Truth on Masks to Protect Against Coronavirus: Fire the Surgeon General Boston Red Cross Volunteers Make Gauze Masks During Spanish Flu of 1918.

By Pam Martens and Russ Martens: April 3, 2020 ~

On March 23 we wrote this: " For want of a mask the largest economy in the world has been gutted, with Goldman Sachs now projecting that U.S. GDP could contract by as much as 24 percent in the second quarter." Now, in the past two weeks, 10 million Americans have filed claims for unemployment. Let that sink in, 10 million of our fellow citizens have lost their jobs in just a two-week period.

In the same article linked above, we showed a photo dated March 4 from the Associated Press of people packed together on a subway in New York City with almost no one wearing a mask. And then we explained why:

"On February 29, the Surgeon General Tweeted that the public should stop buying masks – despite scientific agreement that the virus is spread by sneezing, coughing and talking. The Surgeon General's advice may have made sense for people living on a 10 acre farm in New Hampshire but it was dangerous advice for people who can't afford taxis and are forced to ride a packed subway to work each day in Manhattan."

Because there were simply not enough masks to go around, the Surgeon General effectively lied to the American people.

Now, New York City is the global epicenter of the coronavirus with more deaths than anywhere else in the country. As of this morning, the New York Times is reporting a total of 51,810 cases and 1,562 deaths in New York City – which is 25 percent of the deaths in the entire United States, despite New York City representing just 2.6 percent of the U.S. population.

This past Monday, March 30, MSNBC news host, Chris Hayes, told his viewers this:

"At the beginning of this crisis, the World Health Organization and the CDC came out and basically said that if you're healthy, you just don't need to wear a mask around public to protect yourself or others from Coronavirus.

"Now, over the weekend, there was a rumbling the CDC was about to change its guidance to suggest Americans should wear protective masks, and while the CDC is now denying that reporting, and saying it is not updating its guidance, it is very hard to ignore the fact that the countries where masks are most prevalent, particularly in East Asia, are the ones doing the best job of battling the virus . [Italics added.]

"A prominent Chinese doctor was recently asked by Science magazine what mistakes are other countries making, quote, 'the big mistake in the U.S. and Europe in my opinion is that people aren't wearing masks.' "

Yesterday, April 2, the Washington Post published an OpEd by Joseph G. Allen, director of the Healthy Buildings Program at Harvard University's T.H. Chan School of Public Health. The title of the OpEd was this: " You Need to Wear a Mask. Here's How ." Allen wrote this:

"The debate is over. You should be wearing a mask when you go out

"First, masks of any type help prevent the user from infecting others by acting as a physical barrier that will block large droplets from coughs and sneezes. These droplets can travel up to 20 feet with a powerful sneeze, so six feet of social distancing is not always enough. And wearing masks is not just a good thing for those who are actively sick: Any one of us might be harboring this virus asymptomatically and could transmit it to others, cascading into a thousand new infections."

Allen also correctly pointed out that "Wearing a mask does not replace other important public health control measures such as hand-washing, social distancing, covering your cough and cleaning surfaces."

Allen critically noted that while N95 masks must be reserved for front-line health care workers, people can and should be making their own masks. Unfortunately, Allen suggested using a 100 percent cotton t-shirt, which this tutorial on the proper way to make a mask recommends against . A T-shirt is knit, thus making it subject to stretching. The tutorial recommends using a double layer of high-thread-count 100 percent cotton from sheets or pillow cases made out of Percale or a list of other fabrics.

According to the CDC, the 1918 flu pandemic, known as the "Spanish Flu," resulted in the death of 50 million people globally and an estimated 675,000 people in the United States. The photograph above likely explains one of the numerous reasons that the Spanish Flu was not contained in the U.S. Red Cross volunteers were using highly porous gauze to make masks.

Yesterday, New York City Mayor Bill DeBlasio said this: "We're advising New Yorkers to wear a face covering when you go outside and will be near other people. Let's be clear, this is a face covering. It could be a scarf, it could be a bandana, something you create yourself."

NBC News is reporting this morning that "The White House is expected to urge Americans who live in areas of high coronavirus transmission to wear cloth face coverings to prevent the spread of the virus, a senior administration official told NBC News on Thursday night." Clearly, the whole country should be wearing properly-made, home-made masks so that their town doesn't become the next heavily impacted area.

It didn't need to take this long and the loss of this many lives and the U.S. economy to figure out the obvious. The Surgeon General's negligent Tweet on February 29 should have told Americans to stop buying N95 masks needed desperately by health care professionals and advised them on how to properly make their own masks. The Surgeon General should be held accountable and lose his own job along with the other 10 million Americans who didn't give out dangerously bad advice.

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[Apr 04, 2020] The mask fiasco

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vk , Apr 3 2020 22:53 utc | 90

With the mask fiasco comes the relief fund fiasco:

Long-term customers shocked as Bank of America restricts coronavirus bailout loans to businesses who've borrowed before

The USA is struggling to alocate its resources.

[Mar 30, 2020] Apparently a low cost ventilator was constructed years ago by direction of the Federal government. The company was bought out by another company that produced higher costs ventilators and the project died.

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dltravers , Mar 29 2020 20:02 utc | 45

The U.S. Tried to Build a New Fleet of Ventilators. The Mission Failed.

Apparently a low cost ventilator was constructed years ago by direction of the Federal government. The company was bought out by another company that produced higher costs ventilators and the project died.

[Mar 30, 2020] Dr. Francis Collins director of the US National Institute of Health is no longer AVOL

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Trailer Trash , Mar 29 2020 20:25 utc | 51

Looks to me like Dr Francis Collins, director of the US National Institute of Health

He is no longer AWOL? You have seen or read a recent interview? For at least a month or two, it has been Fauci, Fauci, Fauci, and not a hint of his boss Collins. Perhaps Collins has been too busy handing out guitar picks.


NIH Record
At the outset of his... presentation..., NIH director Dr. Francis Collins described new guitar pick-shaped lapel pins ... popping up around NIH and even on Capitol Hill that tout "Hope at NIH." These arose not only out of Collins' reputation as a musician, but also as "insignia that we believe in what we are doing," said Collins. "You want to pick NIH and you want to pick hope," he said, inviting the group to wear the symbols with pride.

Who needs research or effective planning when we've got "Hope at NIH"?

In 2017 he was been busy promoting Mind/Music/Magic pseudo-science. Maybe he got lost backstage.


"Music and the Mind," on the intersection of music and science. There will be performances, presentations, and discussions by Dr. Collins, Ms. Fleming, the National Symphony Orchestra, neuroscientists, music therapists, and others. Some events are free, open to the public, and will be streamed online

Too bad he is too busy to run his $35 billion agency. Good thing he has Fauci to do it for him.

[Mar 28, 2020] Critique of Dr. Fauci. How should America respond to the Coronavirus crisis? With therapeutic drugs? Or with a vaccine?

Mar 28, 2020 | www.unz.com

Agent76 , says: Show Comment March 27, 2020 at 8:31 pm GMT

Mar 27, 2020 Dr. Fauci and COVID-19 Priorities: Therapeutics Now or Vaccines Later?

There is a raging debate in our government. How should America respond to the Coronavirus crisis? With therapeutic drugs? Or with a vaccine?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/xCnOqwvPivE

[Mar 28, 2020] The shortage of chloroquin might also be a matter of the medical bureaucracy at play.

Mar 28, 2020 | www.unz.com

Turk 152 , says: Show Comment March 27, 2020 at 3:04 pm GMT

The shortage could also be a matter of the medical bureaucracy at play. A primary driver in physicians actions is whether or not they will be sued. If they prescribe malaria medication for covid-19, a use that has not gone through clinical trials and FDA approval, could they be sued if someone dies? They may expect it to work, which is why they are hoarding for themselves and their family. But, if someone dies while being treated by ventilator, they have no exposure because it is currently within medical guidelines.

In contrast, Chinese doctors can and are solving the problem through trial and error. One doctor tries a medication on a patient and if the patient recovers he can communicate to other doctors to try the medication. They dont have a system in which an attorney looking for cash shows up if an already dying patient dies anyway.

This is a big problem for the US that is going to lead to many unnecessary deaths.

[Mar 27, 2020] USG is squabbling with the private sector to purchase ventilators more cheaply

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vk , Mar 27 2020 14:24 utc | 199

USG is squabbling with the private sector to purchase ventilators more cheaply:

After Considering $1 Billion Price Tag for Ventilators, White House Has Second Thoughts

[Mar 27, 2020] Not Just China U.S. Reliance on Foreign Medical Supplies is Staggering by Alan Tonelson

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... Put together, they reveal how big a share of the American markets for drugs, medical devices, and protective gear is controlled by goods made overseas. The big takeaway is that the nation could be in big enough trouble if supply disruptions were to occur in normal times (say, due to natural disasters in manufacturing centers abroad). During a high-mortality pandemic like the CCP Virus, these levels of foreign dependency are high enough to guarantee significant numbers of needless deaths. ..."
"... And in fact, the import penetration trends for these products exemplify the nation's health care security weaknesses. In 2002 -- a good baseline, since that's the first year China was a member of the World Trade Organization -- imports overall accounted for 16.7 percent of all surgical appliances and supplies used in the United States (measured by value, not numbers of masks or pairs of gloves). During the first full year of the Great Recession, 2008, this share totaled 28.08 percent. ..."
"... Keeping this qualification in mind, overall, 32.41 percent of surgical appliances and supplies were imported from other countries by 2011, according to these figures. In 2016, that number reached 41.81 percent of a $33.71 billion U.S. market. It may well be higher these days, as between then and last year, U.S. overseas purchases jumped by more than 29 percent. (Interestingly, in light of domestic shortages, U.S. exports in appliances and supplies actually rose by more than 13 percent during this period!) ..."
"... Ventilators, sadly, have been in the news, too; they and related products like oxygen tents and bronchoscopes and inhalators and suction equipment are found in a big goods category called surgical and medical instruments. In 2002, imports from all corners of the world represented 22.04 percent of American consumption. By 2016, this figure stood at 35.91 percent of a $37.5 billion national market, and over the next three years, imports grew nearly 31 percent. (Exports expanded at a relatively slow 11.84 percent.) ..."
"... exclusive U.S. reliance on China for the chemical ingredients of numerous medicines has now become a major federal government concern. ..."
"... The main foreign suppliers to the American pharmaceuticals market as of last year look encouragingly diversified and encouragingly friendly. For example, Ireland was number one, with 22.15 percent of such shipments, followed by Switzerland with 14.05 percent. But third and fourth, with 8.87 percent and 8.39 percent of imports, were Germany and India, respectively, both of which have limited or embargoed their medical exports this year. And number five, at 7.38 percent, was Italy -- whose current CCP Virus devastation could easily bring about export restrictions. ..."
"... Last year, America's leading foreign supplier of surgical and medical instruments (the ventilators category) was Mexico, which sold U.S. customers 28.58 percent of the $17.62 billion of total imports. But export-curber Germany was number three, at 9.43 percent, and China was sixth, at 6.93 percent. ..."
"... Purely domestic policy steps, like mandating more stockpiling or new recycling and re-use strategies, undoubtedly can add to national medical products supplies. But even these general import penetration figures, along with the shortage reports that keep pouring in, make clear that enduring national health care security can't be restored without a major ramping up of domestic output. And since export-heavy economies like China's and Germany's will undoubtedly work overtime to keep their American health care customers -- including with all manner of predatory economic practices -- it's similarly clear that big, lasting U.S. departures from standard free trade policies will be unavoidable. ..."
Mar 27, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Not Just China: U.S. Reliance on Foreign Medical Supplies is Staggering

The government's own numbers tell a frightening tale of how this happened, and when.

Virus pandemic having exposed scary domestic shortages of critical medical goods ranging from safety masks to ventilators, along with potential shortages of pharmaceuticals, political leaders across the spectrum are finally regretting having allowed so much output of these products to migrate offshore.

China's role in global supply chains has understandably sparked much of the alarm, since its government has all but threatened to withhold supplies of medicines whenever it wishes. But all told, at least 38 countries (including the 27-member European Union) have curbed exports of anti-pandemic products at some point since the CCP Virus began dominating headlines.

So potential foreign chokeholds in the nation's health care-related supply chains appear global in scope. The federal government's best data make clear just how widespread the problem has become, and how steadily it's been growing.

The figures come from the government's statistics on industry-by-industry manufacturing output and on exports and imports. (The output data can be accessed through databases created by the Census Bureau for its Annual Survey of Manufactures that are located at this link . The trade numbers can be retrieved at an interactive database maintained by the U.S. International Trade Commission that's located at this link .)

Put together, they reveal how big a share of the American markets for drugs, medical devices, and protective gear is controlled by goods made overseas. The big takeaway is that the nation could be in big enough trouble if supply disruptions were to occur in normal times (say, due to natural disasters in manufacturing centers abroad). During a high-mortality pandemic like the CCP Virus, these levels of foreign dependency are high enough to guarantee significant numbers of needless deaths.

These statistics aren't problem-free. Principally, because the manufacturing output figures are so granular, and therefore take so long to compile, import penetration rates for these (and other manufactures) can be calculated only through 2016. Yet the more timely import numbers can provide a reasonable indication of whether vulnerabilities are worsening or shrinking. At the same time, the government's main trade data aren't nearly as detailed as the production numbers. As a result, it's not possible to know the percentage of, say, safety masks used in the United States that are produced abroad. But it's easy to come up with this number for the category in which masks (and other protective gear) are grouped -- surgical appliances and supplies.

And in fact, the import penetration trends for these products exemplify the nation's health care security weaknesses. In 2002 -- a good baseline, since that's the first year China was a member of the World Trade Organization -- imports overall accounted for 16.7 percent of all surgical appliances and supplies used in the United States (measured by value, not numbers of masks or pairs of gloves). During the first full year of the Great Recession, 2008, this share totaled 28.08 percent.

Notably, these imports from China were a tiny 1.5 percent in 2002, and had actually dropped to 0.49 percent by 2008. By 2016, they accounted for a seemingly modest 6.54 percent of American consumption. But here's where another weakness in the data emerges: they say nothing about the origin of the materials, parts, and components of the final goods.

Keeping this qualification in mind, overall, 32.41 percent of surgical appliances and supplies were imported from other countries by 2011, according to these figures. In 2016, that number reached 41.81 percent of a $33.71 billion U.S. market. It may well be higher these days, as between then and last year, U.S. overseas purchases jumped by more than 29 percent. (Interestingly, in light of domestic shortages, U.S. exports in appliances and supplies actually rose by more than 13 percent during this period!)

Ventilators, sadly, have been in the news, too; they and related products like oxygen tents and bronchoscopes and inhalators and suction equipment are found in a big goods category called surgical and medical instruments. In 2002, imports from all corners of the world represented 22.04 percent of American consumption. By 2016, this figure stood at 35.91 percent of a $37.5 billion national market, and over the next three years, imports grew nearly 31 percent. (Exports expanded at a relatively slow 11.84 percent.)

Again, the China figures are small beans -- the import penetration rate for 2016 was a mere 2.35 percent. But these products often contain lots of electronics parts, and half the world's printed circuit boards, for example, are made in the People's Republic. In other words, lots of existing global surge capacity throughout the sector is ultimately controlled by Beijing.

Thanks to the work of researchers like the Hastings Center's Rosemary Gibson and independent journalist Katherine Eban, heavy and sometimes exclusive U.S. reliance on China for the chemical ingredients of numerous medicines has now become a major federal government concern. Indeed, the Food and Drug Administration is keeping an especially close eye on the availability of no fewer than 20 pharmaceutical products that use Chinese raw materials. (Unfortunately, the FDA won't say what they are, which calls for some Freedom of Information Act requests, pronto.)

But the import penetration figures make clear that supply disruptions could also originate elsewhere. Between 2002 and 2016, drugs produced overseas more than doubled their share of America's consumption (which stood at nearly $200 billion three years ago), from 17.23 percent to 38.51 percent. As of 2019, moreover, U.S. drugs imports were 20.34 percent higher than in 2016.

The main foreign suppliers to the American pharmaceuticals market as of last year look encouragingly diversified and encouragingly friendly. For example, Ireland was number one, with 22.15 percent of such shipments, followed by Switzerland with 14.05 percent. But third and fourth, with 8.87 percent and 8.39 percent of imports, were Germany and India, respectively, both of which have limited or embargoed their medical exports this year. And number five, at 7.38 percent, was Italy -- whose current CCP Virus devastation could easily bring about export restrictions.

Nor is this pattern restricted to pharmaceuticals. Last year, America's leading foreign supplier of surgical and medical instruments (the ventilators category) was Mexico, which sold U.S. customers 28.58 percent of the $17.62 billion of total imports. But export-curber Germany was number three, at 9.43 percent, and China was sixth, at 6.93 percent.

For surgical appliances and supplies (the masks and protective gear category), Ireland topped the 2019 foreign supplier list, selling the United States 24.09 percent of its $18.21 billion of total imports. But China was second, at 15.29 percent, and in third place, at 9.68 percent, stood Malaysia, which banned mask exports on March 20.

Purely domestic policy steps, like mandating more stockpiling or new recycling and re-use strategies, undoubtedly can add to national medical products supplies. But even these general import penetration figures, along with the shortage reports that keep pouring in, make clear that enduring national health care security can't be restored without a major ramping up of domestic output. And since export-heavy economies like China's and Germany's will undoubtedly work overtime to keep their American health care customers -- including with all manner of predatory economic practices -- it's similarly clear that big, lasting U.S. departures from standard free trade policies will be unavoidable.

Alan Tonelson is the founder of RealityChek, a public policy blog focusing on economics and national security, and the author of The Race to the Bottom .

[Mar 24, 2020] When shown to be incompetent, US leadership lies.

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kiwiklown , Mar 24 2020 3:51 utc | 160

Posted by: occupatio | Mar 23 2020 18:33 utc | 12
"No, China didn't cover up the Covid-19 outbreak: An analysis"

Thanks. I've saved the article for when it is memory-holed.

Crisis reveals character... the nature of people.

When shown to be incompetent, US leadership lies.

Russia says the US leadership is not "agreement-capable".

Less politely, I say they are dishonourable, shameless, ghouls who have lost their souls.

What does it profit a leader when the world's TV cameras shine on you, but you have lost your soul?


SharonM , Mar 24 2020 1:41 utc | 129

@97 Richard Steven Hack

"The number of idiots everywhere on the Internet proclaiming the following:
1) The virus won't prove to be any more dangerous than ordinary flu..."

Yeah sure, we should have just shut up and believed...

Russia interfered in the election
Russia invaded Crimea
Russia invaded Georgia
Iran is making nuclear bombs
The Skripals were poisoned by Russian agents
Assad is using chemical weapons
Saddam has weapons of mass destruction

"etc, etc., ad nauseum.
I could go on and on. The number of people who just *have to have an opinion* is staggering. And they'll argue that they're right until the cows come home."

@99 Michael Weddington

"The virus deniers here remind me of the global warming deniers."

Why not holocaust deniers? In fact, since you didn't say holocaust deniers you must be an antisemite holocaust denier nazi, right? It's not like you two are at CNN's website, you're in the alternative media, where we actually questions things instead of just having blind faith.

ted01 , Mar 24 2020 3:41 utc | 159
SharonM @129

Nailed it Sharon.

Suddenly the corporate mainstream media have become the epitome of truth, honesty and integrity.

kiwiklown , Mar 24 2020 4:21 utc | 164
jackrabbit @33 -- "Coronavirus Drives the U.S. and China Deeper Into Global Power Struggle"

I would rephrase that to "US uses coronavirus to deepen global power struggle against China"

NYT -- "These officials warn that a fast-growing China, under Mr. Xi's increasingly authoritarian rule, seeks military, economic and technological domination over the United States and its allies."

What weasel-speak! Repeating a big enough lie often enough, and you get distracted citizens to fall in line behind you for when you launch a sneak attack on China. This is nothing but a case of projection by parties who are themselves seeking to dominate the world, the better to eat other people's lunches.

[Mar 24, 2020] The Coronavirus's Spread is the Federal Bureaucracy's Failure by Matt Purple

Mar 24, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com
| The truth is always less glamorous than the perception. And the truth about 9/11 is that it was first and foremost a failure of bureaucracy.

As early as spring 2000, the CIA had learned that two of the future hijackers had traveled to Malaysia for an al-Qaeda summit. Both men had U.S. visas yet the information was never acted on. In California, the pair roomed with an undercover FBI agent. In Oklahoma, one of them was pulled over for speeding . Mere days before the attacks, they were hunkered down in Laurel, Maryland, not far from the National Security Agency's headquarters.

They were never stopped, nor were several of the other soon-to-be hijackers who were cited for traffic violations and raised eyebrows at flight schools, more Rocky and Mugsy than SPECTRE. After 9/11, a congressional investigation found that the attacks could have been prevented were it not for FBI and CIA ineptitude. According to that and subsequent reports, the agencies had failed to share information with each other, gotten bogged down in turf wars, and lacked outside-the-box thinking.

They did this because this is how bureaucracies work. The state isn't some enchanted repository of our national priorities; it's a sprawling network of individuals, who, like the rest of us, tend to place their own interests before the common good, show reluctance in the face of innovation, cling to rote procedure even under extraordinary circumstances, abuse their power. And just as the predictable failures of the security bureaucracy allowed 9/11 to happen, so too are the predictable failures of the medical bureaucracy enabling the coronavirus to spread.

Start with the feds' delayed reaction to the virus's outbreak in Washington State. There, the first case of COVID-19 in America was confirmed all the way back in January, and an infectious disease expert in Seattle, Dr. Helen Chu, had an idea. According to the New York Times , her lab had been using nasal swabs to research the flu; were they to repurpose the tests, they could check for the coronavirus. The team quickly sought the approval of the CDC, which kicked them over to the FDA. The FDA then denied their request, citing both privacy concerns over the swab results and the fact that the labs were not certified for clinical purposes. After weeks of the agency refusing to budge, the team decided to do that most American of things: ignore the government. They tested for coronavirus and found a positive. The bureaucrats promptly told the team to stop; they later relented but only in part.

Those FDA rules may be in place for good reason -- patient privacy must be protected, labs must be classified correctly -- but such rationales should quickly fall to the floor when an epidemic is raging. Because they didn't, Chu's team was forced to waste valuable time. And even those laboratories approved for clinical work were having a tough go of it. They still had to apply with the feds for emergency approval to develop their own tests, and were being stymied. "This virus is faster than the FDA," grumbled one researcher to the Times . So are turtles with polio. It's worth pointing out that all this transpired well after the government had declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.

The root of the problem seems to be that the bureaucracy underestimated just how widely the coronavirus would spread. Initial tests were limited to those who had just returned from China. Warnings from local officials that the virus was proliferating were ignored. The CDC, meanwhile, developed its own test, but the kits were quickly determined to be faulty and retracted. Precious weeks slipped by. Had measures been implemented, had people started social distancing earlier and the infected been identified and quarantined faster, the coronavirus could have been better contained. Instead the FDA tried to control the process, only to find that it couldn't. Private labs were brought in too late and struggled to meet demand, forcing them to ration tests. It wasn't until last week that the FDA started permitting companies to market tests without federal blessing, though they still must get the agency's approval within two weeks.

The process remains hamstrung by that most bureaucratic of problems: lack of coordination. Only whereas prior to 9/11 it was agencies failing to coordinate with each other, now it's the government failing to coordinate the supply chain. The labs, the medical providers, the supply manufacturers -- all need to be in harmony in order to develop tests and distribute badly needed equipment. Instead hospitals warn of ventilator shortages . Masks are running dangerously low, with Vice President Mike Pence announcing only last weekend that the government had at last placed an order for hundreds of millions more. A run on supplies following the FDA's belated easing of restrictions on private labs caused shortages, according to the Wall Street Journal . Tom Rogan at the Washington Examiner reports that pallets of medical equipment are sitting unused in warehouses because the FDA hasn't loosened its inspection protocols .

Contrast all this with South Korea, which streamlined its medical bureaucracy following the MERS outbreak in 2015. There, officials sounded the alarm in January and one week later a private lab had developed a test. Today, about 10,000 South Koreans are tested daily , many of them at drive-through diagnosis centers, compared to just a small fraction of that number in the United States.

Yes, the fish rots from the head down. Donald Trump's complacent reaction to the virus set a terrible example. His pronouncement that the outbreak was "like a miracle, it will disappear" now sounds insane. Yet the president can also only reach so far down into the bureaucracy; some of those gears need to align on their own. And they clearly failed to do so. This also can't be blamed on a lack of funding, given that Trump's supposed cuts to the medical bureaucracy never actually happened . Amid a massive federal budget and trillion-dollar deficits, we're paying more than enough to expect the government to do better than this.

I know we've convinced ourselves that the country would run better if only the damned libertarians would get out of the way, but it may be that the real problems are less trite than that. And one of them is clearly that the government has mummified itself in its own red tape. This happened despite the bright minds running its departments, human genome pioneer Francis Collins at the NIH and the oncologist Stephen Hahn at the FDA. So now the bureaucracy is taking a more deregulatory approach, lifting roadblocks to private labs, easing restrictions on trucking, lifting barriers to telehealth. They're about two months too late. Those early weeks were critical and the feds spent them methodically tripping over their own banana peels.

After 9/11, the nation consoled itself by establishing a new government agency with a fancy name, the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone who's ever talked to a DHS employee knows the confusion and bureaucratic jostling that reigned there for years. Instead of doing the same, once the coronavirus has passed, Congress should take a cue from another post-September 11 authority: the 9/11 Commission. Establish a body to investigate the government's blunders. Mimic South Korea and clear away the clutter. Because this time the costs of bureaucracy aren't just abstract notions of productivity and GDP; they're human lives. about the author Matt Purple is the managing editor of The American Conservative . email leave a comment

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[Mar 24, 2020] Half Of All Americans Have Been Ordered To 'Stay At Home' As More Countries Impose Mass Quarantines To Fight COVID-19

Notable quotes:
"... This is specifically about coronavirus testing. In fact, CDC very much screwed up -- its test had a contaminated assay, the negative control, which made it unusable. ..."
Mar 24, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

By CNN's count, at least 13 states and 13 municipalities in the US have ordered 144,522,931 people to stay home as a result of the pandemic, according to data compiled by CNN using US Census population estimates.

Update (1324ET): President Trump on Tuesday once again tried to deny that his administration dropped the ball on the coronavirus response, while saying he would like to see the country re-open by Easter.

Of course, the CDC's botched handling of the tests has been well-documented, and the fact that nobody in the administration acting to overule the CDC and start stockpiling tests from elsewhere might be remembered as one of the administration's biggest screwups in handling the crisis.

Trump: "We did not screw up."

This is specifically about coronavirus testing. In fact, CDC very much screwed up -- its test had a contaminated assay, the negative control, which made it unusable.

World Health Organization offered us test it had been using in China.

We refused.

-- Alexander Nazaryan (@alexnazaryan) March 24, 2020

[Mar 23, 2020] How the US is using "Chinese Virus" as a distraction from their own incompetence Asia Review

Mar 23, 2020 | asia-review.com

On the morning of March 11, US author Kurt Eichenwald tweeted

As I said, @ GOPLeader – and other GOPrs – were told in a political consultants memo to start using name "Chinese Virus" as part of some stupid political strategy.

Everyone: Go to McCarthy's twitter feed and ask "How can we trust GOP when you dont even know the disease's name?

-- Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) March 11, 2020

And just as expected, over the next few days government officials and politicians, including the respected President of the United States, started using the term "Chinese Virus".

This usage is against the new naming convention released by the WHO in 2015.

Dr Keiji Fukuda, Assistant Director-General for Health Security at WHO said in 2015 regarding the new naming convention, "We've seen certain disease names provoke a backlash against members of particular religious or ethnic communities, create unjustified barriers to travel, commerce and trade, and trigger needless slaughtering of food animals. This can have serious consequences for peoples' lives and livelihoods."

Unfortunately, the political strategy has succeeded. Instead of talking about how absolutely incompetent the US response has been, the talking point has been shifted to Americans fighting over whether its right to call it Chinese Virus, with one side saying it stigmatises innocent Asians and instigates hate crime, and the other claiming its a liberal PC agenda.

This, coupled with the spread of fake news regarding how China "covered it up for weeks", (which I wrote about here ) has successfully diverted anger away from the US government and shifted the blame to China.

For good measure, a short recap of the US's incompetence:

Censorship and misinformation (which Americans claim China is doing)

Trump calling it a hoax https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/29/joe-biden-trump-coronavirus-hoax-claim

News station host calling it a hoax https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1240640020714848257

The Trump administration barred a top US disease expert from speaking freely to the public
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-anthony-fauci-trump-admin-stops-discussion-2020-2

Lawmaker Condemns 'Unacceptable' CDC Decision to Stop Disclosing Number of Coronavirus Tests
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cdc-decision-to-stop-disclosing-coronavirus-test-total-condemned-by-lawmaker

Official: White House didn't want to tell seniors not to fly
https://apnews.com/921ad7f1f08d7634bf681ba785faf269

Trump tried to stall intelligence report by DNI, cut funding for pandemic preparedness, CDC
https://time.com/5799765/intelligence-report-pandemic-dangers/

Seattle lab uncovered Washington's coronavirus outbreak only after defying federal regulators
https://theweek.com/speedreads/901405/seattle-lab-uncovered-washingtons-coronavirus-outbreak-only-after-defying-federal-regulators

Coronavirus: Sheriff Chitwood reveals 20 potential Volusia cases
https://www.news-journalonline.com/news/20200314/coronavirus-sheriff-chitwood-reveals-20-potential-volusia-cases

CDC wanted to recommend all over 60 to remain inside their homes, but was instructed not to by government officials https://twitter.com/LACaldwellDC/status/1238870221672386563

Downplaying the virus all the way from the start until March 16 https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1240043597434687489?s=20

Incompetence in testing

Manufacturing defects leading to days of delays https://www.wsj.com/articles/manufacturing-defect-in-some-early-cdc-test-kits-being-probed-11583119414

Testing 400 people in 40 days while the world has tests hundreds of thousands https://fortune.com/2020/03/03/coronavirus-us-test/

A Pennsylvania state laboratory is now able to handle about six tests per day
https://www.wtae.com/article/pennsylvania-begins-coronavirus-testing-at-state-owned-lab/31212554

As of March 3rd, New York City has only tested 17 people for coronavirus
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/coronavirus.page

CDC Tested Just 77 People For Coronavirus This Week (article dated 13 Mar) https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coronavirus-cdc-tested-77-people-this-week_n_5e6b06c1c5b6dda30fc6424d?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

Sick People Across the U.S. Say They Are Being Denied the Coronavirus Test https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/us/coronavirus-testing-challenges.html

The entire state of Indiana has 100 tests https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/local/coronavirus-testing-picks-up-pace-in-south-bend-region-and/article_52bdcb0e-63e9-11ea-a23f-736dca0c8273.html

Sheer incompetence

Oklahoma governor urges residents to join him at crowded food hall https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/despite-coronavirus-spread-governor-visits-packed-food-hall-urges-oklahomans-to-join-him/

Florida governor refuses to shut down beaches amid spread of coronavirus https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-governor-refuses-shut-down-beaches-amid-spread-coronavirus-n1162226

[Mar 23, 2020] While the response might be overblown and MSM overly hysteric, neither virus or economic and social crisis it caused are fake

Mar 23, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Jackrabbit , Mar 22 2020 16:06 utc | 15

Paul Damascene @11

I suggest you read comments made on the virus-related threads.

The virus isn't fake, but the CRISIS! is.

Just a few reasons:

- USA classified all discussion related to preparation for the virus;

- suppression of testing;

- failure to prepare despite urgent warnings;

- blaming China for US/West lack of preparation (they have sufficient info);

- failure to acknowledge and implement treatment;

- rush of aid to Wall Street and corporations while slow-walking money to ordinary people (will we ever see that money?).

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bevin , Mar 22 2020 18:16 utc | 41

"The virus isn't fake, but the CRISIS! is.

"Just a few reasons:

"- USA classified all discussion related to preparation for the virus;

"- suppression of testing;

"- failure to prepare despite urgent warnings;

"- blaming China for US/West lack of preparation (they have sufficient info);

"- failure to acknowledge and implement treatment;

"- rush of aid to Wall Street and corporations while slow-walking money to ordinary people (will we ever see that money?).!!"
Jackrabbit@15

It is not clear what you are trying to communicate. But I assume that you are arguing that "the Crisis is fake."
The 'reasons' that you give are not reasons at all- far from proving that the crisis is fake they are simply features of the crisis itself.

Far from being fake the crisis is as plain as day. While there may be debate over whether or not the disease is exaggerated, even falsified and nothing more than another seasonal virus, the crisis, internationally and locally is obviously real.

And the proof of this is that millions of people are not working or working from home, the streets are empty in the cities, the healthcare systems are dangerously overstrained, there is an obvious need to devise food distribution networks and to substitute alternatives for reliance on the marketplace to make decisions and the invisible hand to govern. And thousands are dying-which is very real.

All these things are real. Much more real than your irresponsible claim (@33) that 'inexpensive Chloroquine' will treat the problem. You don't know that, just as I don't know that it won't-though the weight of opinion is against what you advise which might well, in the unlikely event that anyone takes you seriously, prove to be fatal.

Jackrabbit , Mar 22 2020 18:19 utc | 43
bevin @41: Far from being fake the crisis is as plain as day.

It's a manufactured crisis. The virus is real. The threat from the virus is real. But the crisis was unnecessary.

See my comment @42 for more.

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[Mar 23, 2020] Were Governor Andrew Cuomo's actions warranted by the level of threat?

Mar 23, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Circe , Mar 22 2020 15:40 utc | 6

Why is it that I feel like all leaders at Municipal, State, Provincial, Regional, and Federal levels in whatever country should watch Governor Andrew Cuomo's daily briefings? Why do I feel it's required viewing for the length of the pandemic? Why is it I feel like all leaders should cover the pandemic as thoroughly and efficiently as he's covering it? And I'm not even a big fan of the Cuomos! Only the truth matters to me, not personalities. If he's doing it right; I don't care who it is!

Watch and you'll understand why.


SharonM , Mar 22 2020 15:46 utc | 8

@6

"Why is it that I feel..."

Because you're a bootlicker?

Jackrabbit , Mar 22 2020 17:08 utc | 33
Circe @27

You probably missed that ALL NYS residents (over 19 million people) have been ordered to stay home. An unnecessary measure when the virus can be treated effectively.

And if you're sick, you're told to stay home until/unless it worsens, which allows the virus to progress to the point where treatment with inexpensive Chloroquine is less effective.

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[Mar 23, 2020] Countries differ in thisr approaches to containing coronavirus epidemics

Mar 23, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

c1ue , Mar 22 2020 19:34 utc | 58

@JackRabbit #38

...

The economic consequences of lockdowns in the US - I've noted before - are going to be extreme in the US because of its high cost of living and highly complex, interdependent economic value chains.

Secondly, China has both high savings rates (albeit skewed by income inequality) as well as much lower cost of living. Some interesting details TAMU study - including that Chinese households had more assets in total than US households... in 2010!

[Mar 22, 2020] Lockdowns Not Enough to Defeat Coronavirus WHO's Ryan

Mar 22, 2020 | www.usnews.com

Countries can't simply lock down their societies to defeat coronavirus, the World Health Organization's top emergency expert said on Sunday, adding that public health measures are needed to avoid a resurgence of the virus later on.

"What we really need to focus on is finding those who are sick, those who have the virus, and isolate them, find their contacts and isolate them," Mike Ryan said in an interview on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show.

"The danger right now with the lockdowns ... if we don't put in place the strong public health measures now, when those movement restrictions and lockdowns are lifted, the danger is the disease will jump back up."

Much of Europe and the United States have followed China and other Asian countries and introduced drastic restrictions to fight the new coronavirus, with most workers told to work from home and schools, bars, pubs and restaurants being closed.

[Mar 22, 2020] Measures in Spain and France

Mar 22, 2020 | medium.com

In one extreme, we have Spain and France. This is the timeline of measures for Spain:

On Thursday, 3/12, the President dismissed suggestions that the Spanish authorities had been underestimating the health threat.
On Friday, they declared the State of Emergency.
On Saturday, measures were taken:

On Monday, land borders were shut.

Some people see this as a great list of measures. Others put their hands up in the air and cry of despair. This difference is what this article will try to reconcile.

France's timeline of measures is similar, except they took more time to apply them, and they are more aggressive now. For example, rent, taxes and utilities are suspended for small businesses.

[Mar 22, 2020] Those disbursements to wage earners are vital for the social cohesion to remain in place. I thought Tulsi Gabbard championing that minimum basic income strategy was essential as well.

Notable quotes:
"... I empathies totally with USians that are trapped in the vulgar exploitative nightmare of the usury in that country ..."
Mar 22, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

uncle tungsten , Mar 22 2020 10:02 utc | 126

chu teh #103

Those disbursements to wage earners are vital for the social cohesion to remain in place. I thought Tulsi Gabbard championing that minimum basic income strategy was essential as well.

I empathies totally with USians that are trapped in the vulgar exploitative nightmare of the usury in that country . Debt Jubilee for all under $100,000 income would be a start. But that might create a vulgar backlash as well.

The naked ferocity of capitalism in the USA is truly a fearsome thing.

[Mar 22, 2020] There didn't need to be a crisis or a panic. But a CRISIS! is something that is politically useful: to direct hate against China; to provide extraordinary support to favored interests like Banks and Wall Street and Boeing.

Notable quotes:
"... By mid-February, it was clear that certain drugs and anti-virals were effective. It was important to have widespread tests so that these drugs could be administered early, especially to vulnerable populations. Yet weeks later, the West (especially USA) was still unprepared to test. ..."
Mar 22, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Jackrabbit , Mar 22 2020 6:40 utc | 102

@101

I raised the same issues a couple of days ago:

The real danger was always in the possibility that the healthcare system is overwhelmed. Then you get large numbers of unnecessary deaths.

So a country needs to flatten the curve. The best way to do that is to close the schools as soon as community spread is detected. In the West, this should've been done in early February - it wasn't.

By mid-February, it was clear that certain drugs and anti-virals were effective. It was important to have widespread tests so that these drugs could be administered early, especially to vulnerable populations. Yet weeks later, the West (especially USA) was still unprepared to test.

There didn't need to be a crisis or a panic. But a CRISIS! is something that is politically useful: to direct hate against China; to provide extraordinary support to favored interests like Banks and Wall Street and Boeing.

The Empire Games Covid-19

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In addition, it seems that USA/Trump was hoping that remdesivir, developed by Gilead Sciences, would be the (expensive) drug of choice to treat Covid-19.

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[Mar 22, 2020] Best Coronavirus Trump Statements Timeline Synopsis Ever Put Together

1 minute 22 second video with Trump statements in chonological order @ https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/1240985096838053889
There is a saying the you fight the war with the army you have, not with the army you want.
Notable quotes:
"... Ok. Let me start by stating that I am not a "staunch" Trump supporter. However, I just really despise the constant visceral negative, hatred towards our Country's President. ..."
"... As I am sure you are aware, it is a tremendously difficult job, especially in today's crisis. I would think it would be better serve of your time and efforts to be constructive and optimistic, and hopeful. Rather than pinpointed every single steps and missteps he makes. He is certainly no perfect - but his goal is the same as all of ours: to defeat this virus in the best manner possible with the resources available. ..."
"... For the entire Trump Presidency it was all about the stock market. So, here we are. ..."
Mar 22, 2020 | moneymaven.io

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I hope this is played everyday everywhere until Nov 8. Unless ⁦ @ realDonaldTrump ⁩ resigns as he should immediately.

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Mish

20 hours ago Here is a 1 minute 22 second video timeline of Trump's amazing handling of the coronavirus.

Please play this.

It will take less than two minutes of your time.

One missing key quote is a statement Trump made bragging about having natural talent coupled with a proclamation that he could have been a scientist instead of president.

More Questions:

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

njbr 20 hrs

The dumb-asses in DC still don't get it. "Top" leaders crowding around a single microphone in a stage no larger than a public restroom. Working toward a 1 time $1200 check that probably wont be issued/delivered for another couple weeks. What about the weeks after that--are they going to spend the next couple weeks going around about the next check?? Has the production of ventilators actually been accelerated-who could tell from what has been said? Why are nurses and doctors in my area asking the public for donations of PPE at the very beginning of the serious phase? What happens when the doctors and nurses start tipping over? Two partially ready hospital ships may help in one spot each on the coast, but what about everywhere else? Has anyone even checked on the production capacity for the maybe helpful malaria medicine--has anyone been directed to begin proactive super-production of this product? On and on.

DeeDee3 20 hrs

hard to prove deliberate neglect when you eliminate all of the evidence. No testing means "no virus" and sadly supported the hoax theory.

Another doc died in the city today. ER's are unprotected. what conclusion can we draw from all of this?

Zardoz 20 hrs

Thousands will die because of his incompetence... and his followers will blame the Chinese

egilkinc 20 hrs

There should be a tracker of the number of cases [among medical personnle] in the US along with this

Sechel 20 hrs

Oh my g-d. This is excellent! I think Trump has learned some bad lessons from Goebbels. Repeat the lie and repeat it often and people will take your version of events. This really serves to correct the record! Good work!

PecuniaNonOlet 20 hrs

And yet there will be an avalanche of Trump supporters defending the idiot. It is truly beyond me.

michiganmoon 20 hrs

Actually, Trump should resign and give the GOP a chance this November.

Had Trump not downplayed this and had tests ready, he could have played on a loop Biden on January 31st saying travel restrictions from Wuhan were racist and xenophobic.

thesaint0013 20 hrs

Ok. Let me start by stating that I am not a "staunch" Trump supporter. However, I just really despise the constant visceral negative, hatred towards our Country's President.

As I am sure you are aware, it is a tremendously difficult job, especially in today's crisis. I would think it would be better serve of your time and efforts to be constructive and optimistic, and hopeful. Rather than pinpointed every single steps and missteps he makes. He is certainly no perfect - but his goal is the same as all of ours: to defeat this virus in the best manner possible with the resources available.

To criticize previous tweets, interviews, and depict his flaws and errors does not help the common goal. The nature of some of the questions posed to him during the press conferences should be a bit more respectful and again, it doesn't serve any positive outcome to try and "catch" him in a lie, and how he may have said something that was not factual or false.

Again, he's not perfect and neither are anyone of us. However he is our President and we should support his and all of our common goal to defeat this virus.

Russell J 20 hrs

Not making excuses for Trump at all but he/we have people who are specialists and are responsible for being ready at all times for something like this and are responsible for being on the look out for this. Somebody should have came forward, even as a whistleblower. I've been aware for about 2 months now.

Thank you WWW.PEAKPROSPERITY.COM, MISH and WWW.ZEROHEDGE.COM

This was an epic failure of Trump, his administration and America in general.

ghoffa 20 hrs

Hi,
@MishTalk @Mish
I wanted to sincerely thank you MISH from my whole extended family. I have been reading you since 2007 when Ron Paul removed the scales from my eyes on the Fed and govt., Jekyll Island book, the "financial markets" (all modern day money changers). Every picture I see of Fed chairpersons, their eyes look dead black sharks eyes (to quote a famous book which I subscribe, the eyes are the windows to the soul).

In addition our mob style duolopoly govt and for the most part complicit MSM (all with significant influencing billionaire ownership to control the news - easily searched). I've learned so much from this blog and the many commentors in this space ( a personal fav is @Stuki ) . Nothing short of brilliant and reminds me of my fav news source Zerohedge and it's articles and commentors.

A special thanks for pointing us to Chris Martenson (peakprosperity.com) as my wife and I have watched every day his free daily videos since JAN @24th and our extended family is as prepared as we can be. God help us all with what's coming.

For those who haven't watched it, Dr. Martenson has a great 3 min video on exponential growth on YTube. Search his name and exponential. It will help you prepare for what our govt knows is coming in enourmous exponential growth in fatalities. Even knowing, it will be an emotional thing to prepare for. Prepping home supplies is one thing, prepping emotionally is also important per Dr. Martenson. HCWs be damned.

As this impacts people personally, I expect insider leaks to come from many fronts. We're working with neighbors to get prepared as we're all on our own now as the money changers (evil) bail out the money changers (evil) amidst a system that is so debt leveraged it can't likely be bailed out. "everything's a nail and the Fed has a hammer".

Lastly this brings a famous quote to mind as the people rise up against corrupt govt, corp bailouts after stock buy backs, etc. Let alone the monsters upon monsters creating lab viruses (regardless of the source of this virus), and unregulated GMOs changing the fabric of life.....

"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing". Margaret Mead
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QE2Infinity 20 hrs

Come on! First off, anyone can be made to look bad by taking snippets out of context and stringing them together. That said, Trump does tend towards braggadocio. If that is off putting to you, he can be annoying. I much prefer a transparent fool to the more sly variety that plays the part well while sticking a knife in your back.

But let's be honest here. The president can do very little. The bureaucracy of the government is a jobs program for the less ambitious and politically inclined. It's staffed with incompetent bureaucrats that show up, surf the web and may get around to an hour or two of honest work. Public unions guarantee they can't be fired.

Obama converted the CDC into a PC jobs program for lefties, just like he converted NASA into a Muslim outreach program.

May one ask: why is a self proclaimed libertarian screaming for more government action? Wouldn't it be great if one of the outcomes of this crisis is that local communities became more self reliant and more self sufficient!

Sechel 20 hrs

that's from a website called therecount.com looks interesting.

Greggg 20 hrs

For the entire Trump Presidency it was all about the stock market. So, here we are.

numike 20 hrs

while we all point fingers lets look at a useful guide regarding the mess we are ALL in now https://www.seriouseats.com/2020/03/food-safety-and-coronavirus-a-comprehensive-guide.html

Food Safety and Coronavirus: A Comprehensive Guide Questions about COVID-19 and food safety, answered. www.seriouseats.com

Tengen 20 hrs

The graphic at the end of the video already looks out of date and shows how rapid the spread has been. For March 2020 it shows 5,002 cases in the US (and counting) but right now I'm seeing 24,137 cases.

So much for "in a couple of days the 15 is going to be down close to zero".

njbr 20 hrs

What can the President do?

Force and organize the production of necessary goods.

Mish Editor 19 hrs

May one ask: why is a self proclaimed libertarian screaming for more government action? Wouldn't it be great if one of the outcomes of this crisis is that local communities became more self reliant and more self sufficient!

Mish Editor 19 hrs

Trump did not Drain the Swamp. He IS the swamp

Mish Editor 19 hrs

Anyone who still supports this President's actions is a TDS-inflicted fool.

Jim Bob 19 hrs

I've followed Mish for ~ 12 years online and on the radio for brilliant economic analysis. Lately his work has been undermined by irrational political opinion. Mish has turned into Krugman. I won't be back.

abend237-04 19 hrs

The Donald is obviously afflicted with the same narcissistic megalomania prerequisite for a successful run at any elective office above County Coroner, anywhere in this country.

That said, he can apparently read a graph, and he's right: The two drug combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin are working to treat this damn thing, BUT:

It is, indeed, not a Covid-19 preventative.

If you get it, and you dink around at home too long waiting for improvement, arriving at ICU needing ventilation leaves you with roughly the odds of Russian roulette of surviving, especially if you're older.

Lacking testing, the only remaining means available to knock the transmission rate down quickly is social distancing/lockdown. But, enough of that prevention can leave us wishing we were dead anyway.

Unfortunately, all the college kids jamming the bars and beaches is setting the stage for continued exponential growth by hordes of asymptomatic spreaders.

The march of folly continues.

I like what I'm seeing of Cuomo. He'd be a good guy to have in the room in a serious fight; This qualifies.

DBG8489 19 hrs

As someone who hates all politicians, there is zero love lost between Trump and myself. I had hopes when he was elected that he would make a difference but it was clear based on how he looked after his private meeting with Obama on inauguration day that he was in over his head.

Having said that, I will say this:

From at least the "major" state level up, it would appear that not one single elected official or the top advisors and bureaucrats who work for them have shown anything but complete and utter failure in their handling of this emergency.

You have senators selling off piles of stock while either saying nothing or telling the rest of us that it was bullshit. And trust me - they were not the only ones. If anyone cares to investigate, they will likely find this problem rampant. Elected officials should not even be allowed to trade stocks when they control the entire economy - not even through alleged "blind trusts" - it's bullshit. But that's a conversation for another time.

You have congressional reps and senators blaming each other and/or the other party and passing laws and bailouts without even reading the bills they are passing.

You have the Treasury and the Fed printing money and throwing it at every hole that opens up without the slightest regard for what the unintended consequences of those actions may entail.

You have governments of the "major" states (CA, NY, NJ...etc) who know they can't simply print money being exposed using any extra money they had (along with taxes based on tourism that have now disappeared) to fund God knows what now demanding that everyone else pony up to pay for their failure to plan...

The lack of leadership in the major states and at the Federal level is abysmal ACROSS THE BOARD.

And that includes members of BOTH parties and nearly every single bureaucratic agency involved.

You can single Trump out if you want, but he's not alone. He's just an easy target because 49% of the population hated him before this started.

njbr 18 hrs

....Top health officials first learned of the virus's spread in China on January 3, US Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said Friday. Throughout January and February, intelligence officials' warnings became more and more urgent, according to the Post -- and by early February, much of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the CIA's intelligence reports were dedicated to warnings about Covid-19.

All the while, Trump downplayed the virus publicly, telling the public the coronavirus "is very well under control in our country," and suggesting warm weather would neutralize the threat the virus poses....

...The administration did begin taking some limited action about a month after Azar says the administration first began receiving warnings, blocking non-citizens who had been to China in the last two weeks from entering the country on February 3 -- a move public experts have argued at best bought the US time to ramp up its testing capabilities, which it did not use, and at worst had no beneficial effects at all.

Trump finally assembled a task force to address the virus, putting Vice President Mike Pence in charge of the effort on February 26, and declared a national emergency on March 13. And, just this week -- nearly three months after first receiving warnings from his intelligence officials -- the president's public tone about the crisis shifted: "I've always known this is a real -- this is a pandemic," he said Tuesday as he admitted, "[the virus is] not under control for any place in the world."....

Realist 18 hrs

I have been watching political leaders in my own country get on television daily. They have all done a great job of informing the public about the dangers of this virus. They have all relied on the experts to relay information to the public about what the government is doing, and what individuals should be doing. This is true at the national, regional, and local levels.

In addition businesses have been sending out emails, radio announcements and tv messages explaining what they are doing in regard to this pandemic.

In fact, I am amazed at what a good job everyone is doing.

I am also watching what is happening in the US. Every US state governor and city mayor I have seen on tv has done a wonderful job of presenting the facts to the public and provided instructions as to what they are doing and what the public should be doing.

Then there is the gong show that is Trump. I could not imagine that anyone could be as bad as he is; months of lies, denials, suppression of the truth, and a complete and utter lack of preparation for something he was warned about many times. Denying one day that the virus was a pandemic; only to claim the very next day that he had known it was a pandemic for months; and then the very next day say that no one could have seen this coming; and finally saying that his response to the virus rates a 10 out of 10.

Worst President ever. Sadly, many, many Americans are going to suffer and die because America had this moron in charge.

Mish keeps referring to worldometer to get stats from. Their numbers seem to match up with numbers I see in my own country and in the US.

Disturbingly, today, the mortality rate for closed cases ticked up 1% to 12%. 12978 deaths and 94674 recovered. That is not the direction I expected it to go.

daveyp 17 hrs

You get what you vote for. To have such a malignant narcissist of such profoundly limited intellectual honesty and capacity "leading" your nation through this is truly tragic for your country. Even the hideously vile ultimate Washington insider Hilary would have done a better job.

truthseeker 17 hrs

Mish I agree with much of the criticism of Trump, yet had he done everything you and others suggest, there is this implied assumption that everything would have worked out perfectly. You know I am impressed the way the country seems to be uniting to such a great degree, that I think there is at least some hope for our country's future though there are huge challenges that lay ahead absolutely!

abend237-04 17 hrs

I will now proceed, once again, to bitch about the root cause of our current pandemic, which is causing many to experience cosmic scale frustration with The Donald, which I share:

Civilization has now been hit squarely in the head with three killer coronavirus outbreaks in 18 years, yet still has no unified global new viral antigen detection system. We could have if our world "leaders" would make it happen.

Local supercomputers, however massive, will never crack this nut, but the billions of powerful, web-accessible smartphones could if linked and used by a parallelized, intelligent scheduler to raise the alarm when a new antibody/pathogen is discovered in human blood anywhere.

Such a system could have lifted the burden from a lonely doctor struggling to raise the alarm in Wuhan, before Covid-19 killed him, and placed it squarely in front of disease control experts, worldwide. It can be done; We must do it.

Sars cov-3/4/5/6/7/8/9/n could kill us all if we don't.

[Mar 22, 2020] Liberal NPCs Hate Russia, Conservative NPCs Hate China

Mar 22, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Jackrabbit , Mar 21 2020 23:10 utc | 54

Caitlin Johnstone also sees the response being manipulated to focus hate on China: Liberal NPCs Hate Russia, Conservative NPCs Hate China

But she sees this China-bashing as mostly a political reaction:

In reality these people are rallying behind the campaign to blame China for the health crisis they're now facing because they understand that otherwise the blame will land squarely on the shoulders of their president, who's running for re-election this year.
instead of a deliberate Deep-State strategy (which is my view).

We can argue who created the virus (I'm still looking for any rebuttal to the Chinese claim that USA must be the source because it has all five strains of the virus), but the Empire's gaming of the virus outbreak seems very clear to me.

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[Mar 22, 2020] Coronavirus - On Western Government Failures And Possible Therapies

Mar 22, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Jen , Mar 21 2020 19:51 utc | 3

Thus the Washington Post headlines:

U.S. intelligence reports from January and February warned about a likely pandemic

U.S. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous, classified warnings in January and February about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while President Trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread of the pathogen, according to U.S. officials familiar with spy agency reporting.

The intelligence reports didn't predict when the virus might land on U.S. shores or recommend particular steps that public health officials should take, issues outside the purview of the intelligence agencies. But they did track the spread of the virus in China, and later in other countries, and warned that Chinese officials appeared to be minimizing the severity of the outbreak.

If the spy services were really concerned about the issue why did they not warn the public? Instead of leaking new idiotic fairytales they could have leaked a warning about the pandemic. Instead we were given this:

If the intelligence services had taken the pandemic seriously they could have warned the public via their countless stenographers in the media. Instead they kept the media filled with false anti-Russian stories and told Trump that the Chinese are lying which they were in fact not.

Trump of course would have not have believed the intelligence reports anyway. Why would he? The FBI and CIA have for three years tried to get him impeached. They created Russiagate based on a fake dossier. They lied to get FISA warrants to spy on his campaign. When Russiagate finally fell apart the CIA sent a fake 'whistleblower' to launch Ukrainegate. In Trump's place there is no reason to believe a word of whatever any of the 'intelligence officials' say.

The intelligence services failed to issue effective warnings. But they were not the only ones. All institution in 'western' countries and their leaders have lacked in their preparation for a larger outbreak.

China warned us early on. The WHO was informed in late December. On January 3 the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was informed by his Chinese colleagues. After China recognized that the new SARS-CoV-2 virus indeed jumped from person to person it took radical measures to get a grip on the epidemic and those measures have worked well. China has only 3,255 death in a nation of 1.4 billion people. Today all checkpoints were removed from Wuhan city and life there is slowly turning back to normal.

Since when did the CIA, the NSA, the DIA and the rest of the much vaunted 17 alphabet-named intel agencies in the US ever provide much in the way of "intelligence"?

The CIA famously failed to foresee the revolution that felled Iranian shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi and the role Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini played in it, in 1979. The CIA also failed to foresee the downfall of Communist govts in eastern Europe and the Soviet Union in 1989 and 1991. Instead the CIA spends US taxpayer millions on brainwashing and torture programs like MK ULTRA and their like in universities and institutions in the US and Canada (McGill University) from the 1950s onwards.

The current activities of the CIA and FBI in promoting anti-Russia / anti-China propaganda and propaganda aimed at destabilising these and other nations that don't bow to the US are equivalent to a global witch-hunt hysteria. The CIA's patron saint should be 17th-century English self-proclaimed Witchfinder General Matthee Hopkins. Senator Eugene McCarthy probably wouldn't come close to this fanatic.


SharonM , Mar 21 2020 20:18 utc | 15

I thought it was well known that U.S. intelligence services don't exist to warn the public about possible dangers from abroad. They exist to create dangers abroad and at home.

"The U.S. intelligence services fear to come under questioning for not raising enough warning about the novel coronavirus pandemic."

Fear being questioned? U.S. intelligence agencies don't fear being questioned--I thought this was well-known too. It's going to be harder and harder to write articles from the perspective of being in favor of the U.S. regime using martial law on us without completely forgetting what the U.S. regime stands for in the first place.

The Corbett Report released a video today about martial law. In it, he shows us a German document from 2013, entitled:
"Information from the German government – Report on risk analysis in civil protection 2012"

"In it, frightening similarities with what is currently happening can be seen – in particular by explicitly mentioning the "SARS coronavirus (CoV)". The scenario presented, in which the spread, course, duration, mortality etc. are described, goes as far as to make a drastic restriction of fundamental rights necessary.
The scenario states in this respect:"

"The competent authorities, first of all the public health authorities and primarily the public health officers, must take measures to prevent communicable diseases. The IfSG [Infektionsschutzgesetz] allows, among other things, restrictions of basic rights, such as the right to inviolability of the home. Within the framework of necessary protective measures, the fundamental right of personal freedom and the freedom of assembly can also be restricted. In addition to these measures to be ordered directly by the public health officer, the Federal Ministry of Health can order by statutory order that threatened sections of the population have to take part in protective vaccinations or other measures of specific prophylaxis, whereby the right to physical integrity can be restricted".
https://www.globalresearch.ca/coronavirus-new-world-order-something-rotten-state-denmark/5706464

Knowing that b is German, I thought this could be of interest to him;)

Here is the link to Corbett's video from today:
"Medical Martial Law 2020"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2ZRT-gWZ8M

Jackrabbit , Mar 21 2020 22:32 utc | 50

"The U.S. intelligence services fear to come under questioning for not raising enough warning about the novel coronavirus pandemic.

IMO, this is a misreading.

I think a better interpretation is that US media is providing cover for Deep State officials (including high-level intelligence officials) that gamed the virus response. In that regard, this is the key phrase:

The intelligence reports didn't predict when the virus might land on U.S. shores or recommend particular steps that public health officials should take ...

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The intelligence services failed to issue effective warnings."

But we know that they were providing very effective warnings: Senator Richard Burr, who is Chair of Intel Cmte, WAS getting appropriately dire warnings and acting upon those warnings: trading stock and telling his closest friends and supporters about the looming pandemic and the terrible effects it would have.

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"But they were not the only ones. All institution in 'western' countries and their leaders have lacked in their preparation for a larger outbreak."

Well, we shouldn't over look the fact that the top US health officials are all currently or formerly military officers:

I expect that top health officials in other Western countries are also be connected to the military. These officials "failed us" in the same way that our media "fails us": they serve the interests of the EMPIRE-FIRST Deep State.

More here: The Empire Games Covid-19

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[Mar 21, 2020] Korea and Germany virus tests numbers vs the USA

Mar 21, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

I would say that Germany's testing is far superior @Marie
to the US. They test a far larger number of people and don't have the restriction of having to show symptoms before one can get tested. This gives them a larger base of infected so it shows a lower ratio for deaths/confirmed. Earlier detection will also greatly improve outcomes. The slope of their new infections is also starting to flatten - unlike the US where it is getting steeper with each passing day.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-cases-covid-19?country=USA+DEU+IRN

These factors are actually a really, really bad warning sign for the evolution of the virus outbreak within the US. The US, as a fist world country should not have outcomes like a second world country.

#7.1
COVID-19 infections, but an incredibly low number of deaths and patients in serious condition. The numbers may be valid but if so, there's an element of luck in Germany's favor.

up 5 users have voted.

Marie on Sat, 03/21/2020 - 5:21pm

Haven't seen any data on testing in Germany

@CB
The only country I've seen that has been releasing daily figures on testing is South Korea and they've been doing it since their first case on 20 Jan 2020. Update 21 Jan 2021 . First confirmed case in Germany was on 28 Jan.

As of 21 Mar:
Germany: confirmed cases 21,854. (population 83 million)
South Korea: confirmed cases 8,799. (population 51 million) Total tests administered 327,599.

So, SK has better contained the internal spread than Germany and has released more complete information on the imported cases.

At this time, I'm not going to speculate as to why SK's deaths are so much higher than Germany's. But do note that if Germany's health care for a virus with no cure is so far superior to SK's, why are there also so few recoveries in Germany - 180 compared to SK's 2,612.

#7.1.2
to the US. They test a far larger number of people and don't have the restriction of having to show symptoms before one can get tested. This gives them a larger base of infected so it shows a lower ratio for deaths/confirmed. Earlier detection will also greatly improve outcomes. The slope of their new infections is also starting to flatten - unlike the US where it is getting steeper with each passing day.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-cases-covid-19?country=USA+DEU+IRN

These factors are actually a really, really bad warning sign for the evolution of the virus outbreak within the US. The US, as a fist world country should not have outcomes like a second world country.

Marie on Sat, 03/21/2020 - 5:30pm
btw:

@CB
Confirmed cases - Germany:
19 Mar - 17,372
20 Mar - 19,848
21 Mar - 21,854

Confirmed cases - South Korea
19 Mar - 8,565
20 Mar - 8,652
21 Mar - 8,799

[Mar 21, 2020] FEMA has been put in charge of COVID-19

Mar 21, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

CB on Sat, 03/21/2020 - 1:34pm

FEMA has been put in charge of COVID-19

@Lily O Lady
NHS will report to them.

"US has 55 million masks" "we should sanitize and reuse them"

China makes N35 masks at the rate of tens of millions per day. They are shipping millions to other countries around the world. Sinopec even constructed a brand new factory with 12 production lines from scratch in 10 days to manufacture the PP material over a month ago.

Trump bragging about how prescient he was in handling this pandemic.

Lying about China not telling world what was happening for two to three months despite WHO reports from early January.
He keeps repeating how he acted very early.

Scapegoating China again. What a fucking lying fuckwit.

Still don't know how many or when test kits will come out.

Blaming all problems on previous administration - inherited the deficiencies.

One reporter catches him out on when he knew about China from his public statement on Jan 24.

Watch the following video. Trump knew about the virus at least by Jan 3 (the day it's genome was published)

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Lily O Lady on Sat, 03/21/2020 - 1:55pm
The problem now with test kits is that we are running

@CB

out of the reagents to run the tests. So samples can be collected, but may not be processed. There will be more cover-ups when this becomes generally known. Attention! Forward fail!

CB on Sat, 03/21/2020 - 2:14pm
Most of the reagents come from China

@Lily O Lady @Lily O Lady
as do most of the precursors for the various drugs that are made in the US.

Here's a video of how China ramped up mask production within days of learning about the COVID-19 infection.
Someone should have the Trumpeter watch this video. He might discover why masks can't be cleaned and reused.

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[Mar 21, 2020] Tucker Senator Burr sold shares after virus briefing

Highly recommended!
Mar 21, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Bowhead31 , 5 hours ago

The problem is these people no longer see themselves as public servants.

Maria Summers , 6 hours ago

The Georgia Senator is just as guilty as the rest of them, regarding "Insider Trading".

shane passey , 3 hours ago

She's a crook just like the rest of the politicians. They say they be there for the people. But they're really there to make themselves rich

[Mar 21, 2020] Don't forget our congress critter Senator Kelly Loeffler

Mar 21, 2020 | caucus99percent.com

@supenau

who make profits as well. I cannot remember exactly when insider trading for them became legal but it should be no surprise to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention that they're ALL doing it. That is one reason, at least in my semi-educated opinion, they did not go after Trump for emoluments during Shampeachment, because THEY ALL DO IT.

That goes all the way to the White House, no doubt.

Marie on Sat, 03/21/2020 - 10:28am

Looks as if the crisis profiteers were on top of it:

Think about this:

Weeks before you had any inkling you were going to lose your job, was selling off millions of stocks -- and *buying* stock in a teleworking company.

-- Robert Reich (@RBReich) March 20, 2020

[Mar 21, 2020] Coronavirus cases surge at nursing homes with at least 73 facilities in 22 states affected

Mar 21, 2020 | www.washingtonpost.com

...Across the United States, the number of reported cases of coronavirus at nursing homes, assisted living centers and other elder care centers spiked in recent days, with at least 73 facilities in 22 states now reporting infections, according to a review by The Washington Post of reports from states, local media reports and nursing home announcements.

As of Friday evening, at least 55 coronavirus deaths occurred among people living in elder care facilities, though the number is probably higher because official counts often omit a description of the person's last place of residence . That figure represented more than a quarter of U.S. deaths then attributed to the pandemic, even though fewer than 1 percent of Americans live in such facilities.

[Mar 20, 2020] PA Governor has ordered the shutdown of all non-life-sustaining businesses, and he intends to enforce it with the State Police and other agencies starting Saturday.

Mar 20, 2020 | www.unz.com

Milton , says: Show Comment March 20, 2020 at 3:10 am GMT

Well, here in PA, the Governor has ordered the shutdown of all non-life-sustaining businesses, and he intends to enforce it with the State Police and other agencies starting Saturday. He said the enforcement will last "indefiintely." This is like something out of a bad horror movie: https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/03/all-non-life-sustaining-businesses-in-pa-must-close-gov-wolf.html

[Mar 19, 2020] A tidbit showing how serious Italy is about their lockdown

Mar 19, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

c1ue , Mar 19 2020 16:32 utc | 55

And in other news: a tidbit showing how serious Italy is about their lockdown:
Guardian with news on Italy
Police stopped and checked 700,000 citizens between 11 and 17 March, 43,000 of whom were found to have violated the decree, which also ordered the closing of shops, bars, restaurants, gyms and swimming pools.

One of the most serious cases happened in Sciacca, Sicily, when a man who had tested positive for Covid-19 was discovered by police while out shopping, despite the strict order to self-isolate at home. Prosecutors opened an investigation and accused the man of "aiding the epidemic". If convicted, he could face up to 12 years in prison.

On 10 March a 30-year-old man was stopped by the police in Turin at 2.30am while soliciting a sex worker.

Police near Venice pressed charges against a priest because he was officiating at a funeral. Another priest was reported for the same reason in Torre Annunziata in Campania, together with relatives of the deceased. Funeral services are banned under the decree.

The prosecutor's office in Aosta, in north-west Italy, opened an investigation against a man for "aggravated attempt to spread the epidemic" because he had not informed his doctors of suspected coronavirus symptoms before undergoing plastic surgery on his nose. The man subsequently tested positive for Covid-19.


To put this in perspective: Italy has a population of 60M - so police stopped more than 1 in 100 people in the whole country!
This is not even at China level lockdown.
What will the US do?

[Mar 19, 2020] Coronavirus Testing Source Data - Our World in Data

Mar 19, 2020 | ourworldindata.org
United States – CDC samples tested 21,105 11 Mar 2020 Report, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 16 Mar 2020, 16:00 ET Figures refer to specimens tested. Data is updated at noon Mondays through Fridays. The current report, published on 16 March 2020, includes only consolidated estimates up until 11 March 2020.
United States – COVID-Tracking project 41,552 16 Mar 2020 COVID Tracking Project 16 Mar 2020 16:00 The source reports the following breakdown: 4,019 positive; 35,840 negative; 1,691 pending

[Mar 17, 2020] Maryland governor announced unprecedented measures

Mar 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

In addition to the usual closures and orders to increase hospital capacity, he's also prohibiting utility providers from turning off power, water, heat etc. for nonpayment.

Today I announced additional actions to prevent the spread of COVID-19 in Maryland. They may sound extreme, and they will be terribly disruptive, but they are also absolutely necessary to save the lives of hundreds of thousands of people. Details here: https://t.co/XwwTJot69H

-- Governor Larry Hogan (@GovLarryHogan) March 16, 2020

I have ordered the closure of all bars and restaurants in the state, as well as fitness centers, spas, and theaters, effective at 5:00 p.m. today. The order allows for restaurants to continue carry-out, drive-thru, and delivery services.

-- Governor Larry Hogan (@GovLarryHogan) March 16, 2020

We are marshaling every tool in the arsenal of public health to combat this crisis. I have issued an omnibus public health order that includes increasing hospital capacity, activating the Maryland Responds Medical Reserve Corps, & lifting restrictions on healthcare practitioners.

-- Governor Larry Hogan (@GovLarryHogan) March 16, 2020

It is impossible to know how long this threat will continue. What I do know is that we cannot afford to wait to take action.

For updates on our administration's actions, visit https://t.co/Z1UGRIJCGm .

For health resources, visit https://t.co/Shy9A0czWz .

-- Governor Larry Hogan (@GovLarryHogan) March 16, 2020

I am prohibiting utility providers from shutting off any residential customer's service or charging any residential late fees, and prohibiting Maryland courts from ordering the eviction of any tenant who can show that their failure to pay rent was the result of COVID-19.

-- Governor Larry Hogan (@GovLarryHogan) March 16, 2020

We are marshaling every tool in the arsenal of public health to combat this crisis. I have issued an omnibus public health order that includes increasing hospital capacity, activating the Maryland Responds Medical Reserve Corps, & lifting restrictions on healthcare practitioners.

-- Governor Larry Hogan (@GovLarryHogan) March 16, 2020
Apparently, the reason Trump's comment about the ventilators and respirators earlier - asking states to try and find their own through their own supply chains, as Trump said during the press conference - touched such a nerve among the governors is because there's some kind of nationwide "problem" with supplies, according to Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, who discussed the issue with the Washington Post.

"There is a problem with supplies and ventilators," Hogan said. "There's not enough supplies. The states don't have enough. The federal government doesn't have enough. They're not getting distributed fast enough. And that's a problem for all of us.

[Mar 17, 2020] Roche has started shipping tests to labs across the US.

Mar 17, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Roche, the Swiss drug company that is one of several companies working with the administration to increase the supply of tests, has started shipping tests to labs across the US.

[Mar 17, 2020] I have strange sensations in my lungs, and even felt out of breath periodically. I just realizated that somewhere in January, a friend fell ill with a double pneumonia. She recovered, but she now has pulmonary fibrosis as a result of that episode.

Mar 17, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Lurk , Mar 17 2020 0:56 utc | 104

BTW, I have not seen any comments here like this speculative admission that I am about to make:

I suspect that I have in fact contracted the dreaded corona virus. It has been making the rounds in my area. For the past week and a half I have been unusually fatigued and in the last week I have felt strange sensations in my lungs, and even felt out of breath occasionally. No fever, sore throat or coughs. Definitely something unusual in my lungs.

I am 50 years old, no medical issues and generally in good health. I would have applied for a test, but around here they stopped testing anybody but the bad cases that get admitted to the hospital.

Girlfriend has been coughing for two weeks and even had a bit of a fever at the onset.

If this is not simply an ordinary case of flu or cold, I wonder what the exposure route would have been.

GF works with disabled people and did a shift with a group of children who were snotty and coughing right before she got her symptoms.

A little over two weeks ago I attended a weekend sports event in Belgium with many people from Brussels and Paris also in attendance, cities that were early hits in Europe.

A few days later, I picked up my parents in the airport in Amsterdam after their flight back from Atlanta. The had been touring the US and had been on a cruise ship from San Diego to Fort Lauderdale, via Panama and the Caribean.

What really struck me this afternoon, was the realization that a little while ago, somewhere in January, a good friend of ours suddenly fell ill with a double pneumonia. She recovered with antibiotics, but afterwards it turned out that she now has pulmonary fibrosis as a result of that epsiode. This transpired while the corona virus was a thing far away over the horizon. Now I wonder about it.

Anyway, no panic. Taking my vitamins and minerals and brewing soups with lots of ginger and garlic.

Kind of worried about my stepdad who is coughing a lot. He says it's just a cold. Hmmm...

[Mar 16, 2020] Did Trump administration seek exclusive vaccine deal with German biontech company?

Mar 16, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

ak74 , Mar 16 2020 20:40 utc | 35

@ Ort | Mar 16 2020 19:45 utc | 24

Dude, I don't give a rat's ass about Donald Trump or any other American political leader.

Democrat and Republican. They are all scum. All of them.

But the German Interior Minister Horst Seehofer, foreign minister Heiko Maas, and the German Health Ministry are treating this American takeover threat as real:

"At a news conference on Sunday, interior minister Horst Seehofer was asked to confirm the attempts to court the German company. 'I can only say that I have heard several times today from government officials today that this is the case, and we will be discussing it in the crisis committee tomorrow,' he said."

Coronavirus: anger in Germany at report Trump seeking exclusive vaccine deal
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/not-for-sale-anger-in-germany-at-report-trump-seeking-exclusive-coronavirus-vaccine-deal

Germany tries to stop US from luring away firm seeking coronavirus vaccine
https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-germany-usa-idUSL8N2B8075

[Mar 16, 2020] Senator Schumer wants at least $750 billion to combat coronavirus, help economy

Mar 16, 2020 | www.reuters.com

U.S. Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer will propose legislation totaling at least $750 billion to combat the coronavirus outbreak and help the economy, his office said in a statement on Monday. He will present the package as early as Tuesday, the statement said.

The plan would be in addition to an $8.3 billion aid plan that Congress has already passed, as well as a multi-billion-dollar package the House approved last week, the statement said.

Schumer's plan would include money to address hospital capacity issues, expand unemployment insurance, increase Medicaid funding, and provide immediate payment forbearance on federal loans, the statement said. Democrats are a minority in the U.S. Senate.

[Mar 16, 2020] Had China locked down Wuhan just one day earlier, there might be much fewer cases to treat. This is the reality of exponential spread.

Mar 16, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Wve , Mar 15 2020 19:34 utc | 9

JAMA published a retrospective analysis of the Chinese experience
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762130
It demonstrated that there is a 12 day lag between "confirmed" cases today and true infections today.
Further review of this study:
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

Shows that had China locked down Wuhan just one day earlier, there could have been 40% fewer cases to treat or 32,000 cases. This is the reality of exponential spread.

It also arrives at a correlation of 800 current true infections for each death. So Italy likely has over 1M true infections, as opposed to the 24,000 "confirmed "cases reported today.

Godspeed, all.

[Mar 16, 2020] After a panned national address on COVID-19, the president's on the ropes by Curt Mills

Notable quotes:
"... His administration, it was argued, or facets of it, including the president himself, had willfully ignored the worst, tail-end risks of the international proliferation of the Coronavirus disease, COVID-19 or Wuhan flu, as stated in more off-color corners, including the Republican leadership. ..."
"... America is a week away from following the example of Italy, now on national lockdown, it's argued. The subtext: a lapse into genuine Third Worldism can not be ruled out, a coming catharsis for years of national breakdown, as well as the outlaw nature of the Trump presidency. ..."
"... Added into the dissatisfaction, in some quarters, is the discordance, ongoing even five years into Trump's national, political career, between Trump on the stump and the more polished parlances of the presidency. ..."
"... For every American concerned that the United States' response is lethargic and embarrassing, and more so than it might have been a generation ago, there's a rival perspective skeptical of an elite class that brought the country the Y2K pandemonium and the Iraq war. ..."
"... Under Trump the CDC has cut its budget for pandemic preparedness by 80% (in 2018) and Bolton oversaw the termination of the heads of pandemic response. I think we can safely assume that these measures weakened the response to the threat (that and Trump's baffling nonchalance when he could have been preparing cannot logically have failed to cost lives as potential carriers went about their day-to-day lives. ..."
"... Finally, he's unable to twist, outrun or scapegoat his way out of reality. Reaping what he is (and sows)... should've tried something a little more diplomatic with China than a punitive trade war... ..."
"... Unfortunately the COVID-19 crisis is showing that Trump really has no real leadership abilities but is only a reactionary. ..."
"... He's not "facing his fiercest trial". He's running away from it. The first thing he did was pass the buck to Pence, who handed it off to a bunch of incompetent political appointees at CDC, who botched it because they were corrupt mediocrities, totally out of their depth, and trying to do whatever they thought would keep Trump happy and maybe enrich some of their own cronies. ..."
"... There will be endless pallets of cash, billions, even trillions. It will be floating all over the place, totally untraceable, like in Afghanistan or Iraq. By the time this virus is finished with us, not only will Wall Street and the New York banks be bailed out again, but screw-ups like Seema Verma and other hacks hired by Trump and Pence will be multimillionaires. You just watch. ..."
"... Aside from the facts that no President has ever been as filthy mouthed, crude and insulting, bum Trump iis actually one of the FI's- a term I think I made up, but whatever- Trump is one of the 'Functioning Insane.' I'm telling you all: this guy, along with Vice President Pence, Jared Kushner and Pompeo and Esper at 'defense,' should be removed because they are mentally socio-pathic. They don't value human life. They're gonna lead this nation to misery that would be truly tragic. Appoint a commission from the Congresses and remove these weirdos now! ..."
Mar 16, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

he United States government, America's economic infrastructure and the country's character are being stress-tested. So is the American president.

Let's not be bashful: President Donald Trump addressed the nation Wednesday, a rare salvo from the Resolute Desk, against a backdrop of belligerent criticism. His administration, it was argued, or facets of it, including the president himself, had willfully ignored the worst, tail-end risks of the international proliferation of the Coronavirus disease, COVID-19 or Wuhan flu, as stated in more off-color corners, including the Republican leadership.

America is a week away from following the example of Italy, now on national lockdown, it's argued. The subtext: a lapse into genuine Third Worldism can not be ruled out, a coming catharsis for years of national breakdown, as well as the outlaw nature of the Trump presidency.

If the president's goal was to put these anxious criticisms at abeyance, he failed Wednesday night, perhaps through no fault of his own as fewer Americans actually watch these addresses anymore, relying instead on a clique of viral tastemakers. But his address was marred by factual slip-ups. Not all travel from Europe, namely by U.S. citizens, is suspended, for instance, and the government is, apparently, only, at current, willing to pick up the tab for Corona co-pays, not the entirety of the treatments. Trump also failed to bat down paranoid speculation that he, himself, is sick.

Added into the dissatisfaction, in some quarters, is the discordance, ongoing even five years into Trump's national, political career, between Trump on the stump and the more polished parlances of the presidency.

Formal addresses aren't really his bag. Trump looks like he's in a straight jacket. Which is quite the manacle for a politician for whom body language -- gesticulation -- is so central.

He did better Thursday morning.

Even as the market weathered its worst morning since Black Monday, the ruinous '87 crash, Trump swapped the last night's diminishing digs for a more flattering, extemporaneous environment. Astride Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar, goofily, amidst the crisis, still on hand for St. Patrick's Day, Trump said, referring to the Europe ban: "It's also possible we could end it early." Trump noted: "It was an important thing to do." He appeared irked, but, perhaps, at ease.

And in an intentionally divisive remark, love it or hate it, Trump said: "Well, I think, the Democrats won't be having rallies." He continued: "But nobody showed up to their rallies anyways."

For now, America waits. The Corona crisis cuts, deep, both ways.

For every American concerned that the United States' response is lethargic and embarrassing, and more so than it might have been a generation ago, there's a rival perspective skeptical of an elite class that brought the country the Y2K pandemonium and the Iraq war.

Most every observer concedes the tail-end risks, but such trenchant skepticism, some might say nihilism, seems to define the spirit of this outsiders' administration.

Hard questions will be asked when the dust clears, hopefully, by summer.

Why were American supply chains so, completely vulnerable to the turmoil emanating from a mafia state such as China? Why was John Bolton, as national security advisor, allowed to take such a narrow view of national security that he shuttered a special bureau dedicated to pandemics?

Or perhaps why, hopefully not, did America panic?


the long view KevinS a day ago
I think he'll go down as one of the worst and most hated presidents in history. Some of those who will hate him most will be people who voted for him, people like me, people he betrayed by working for Wall Street and foreign interests instead of putting America First.
Dave G. 4 days ago
Two weeks ago I heard someone float the idea that there are those hoping this is a pandemic that wipes out millions just so we can finally nail Trump. I wouldn't doubt there are a few radical crazies who would wish such a thing. Now, as I'm hearing more and more come out and say this is proof Trump is wrong about everything, that this is sure to spiral us into recession and that will end the Trump presidency for sure, I'm starting to think it's not just a few crazies. When politics becomes the all defining everything, I suppose that's what you get.
Awake and Uttering a Song Dave G. 3 days ago
"When politics becomes the all defining everything, I suppose that's what you get."

This applies to people on both the left and right.

In my opinion, the long war against Christianity (not only on the left, but some powerful forces on the right) and the decrease in believers has led to a lot of people replacing the transcendent with politics. And, some in-betweeners who have blended Christianity with politics into a blasphemous, toxic cocktail.

marisheba Dave G. 3 days ago
So if Hillary Clinton had been elected president, governed as badly as you feared, and then made a colossal mistake that hurt millions of Americans, you wouldn't be relieved on some level that at least the one silver lining was that she was going to get kicked out of office? Being glad for the potential end of something that you see as truly disasterous and bad for the entire country is just natural, regardless of the reasons.
Dave G. marisheba 3 days ago
It never dawned on me to. First, I would make sure the harm was a direct result, and not just partisan punditry. Second, if she really did make such a mistake that led to the suffering of millions, of course I would want her to pay. But please, think on this. Last night we had to calm our ten year old down who was crying in bed. Why? Because this time, he said, we might all die. This time?, I asked. Yes, because at his age, most of his aware life he has heard 'Trump and Korea Nukes! We're going to die, everyone to a major target! Trump, and Russia, he's destroying our nation's democracy! Trump and WWIII, he started WWIII! We're going to Die! And on and on and on. Right now, teen suicide is at its all time highest, and for the first time ever, suicide is one of the leading cause of death for children my youngest's age. For the last going on four years, he and his age group have been exposed to one catastrophic crisis that will surely kill us all after another. And last night, it finally got to him.

I remember in school when Reagan was elected. Conventional wisdom was that he would either destroy our economy, or his war mongering ways would provoke the USSR into a full nuke war and the end of humanity. They even made a hyped TV movie about it.

That had quite an impact on my generation. And that was then. I can't imagine what the thrice daily alarm bells of hysterics and panic that have been used against Trump by his opposition (on both sides of the aisle) have done to the young ones of our nation. But last night, I got a pretty good idea. If this does finally work to defeat Trump, I hope the collateral damage is worth it.

cka2nd Dave G. 2 days ago
The pre-Gorbachev Soviet leadership certainly bought into the hysteria about Reagan. They apparently thought he was crazy and would launch a first strike nuclear war.
Dave G. cka2nd 2 days ago
We all did. That's what got me interested in politics. By the time 1984 and 85 rolled around, it was obvious that Reagan wasn't 1) going to destroy America's economy and, more importantly 2) wasn't going to nuke the world. How could so many intelligent people be so wrong I wondered. That's when I began learning the art of political speech. My opponent never disagrees with me on the best way to reduce crime. My opponent wants criminals to escape and kill my family. Things haven't changed much in 30 years.
fuow Dave G. 17 hours ago
My husband and I raised a child who was too well aware of world events. I understand your concern as a parent. There's not much you can do to prevent your child from reading and hearing what is being said out there - on all sides.

We focused on a stable home life, focusing on school and work around the farm. His greatest fear - this was before we could legally marry - was that something would happen and our family would be torn apart. Lots of time spent reviewing contracts and protections with our lawyer helped on the rational level, but emotionally - it hurt him, badly. Probably one reason he is, today, a lawyer who works as a public defender.

However - to address your Hillary concerns: We have seen how other advanced countries deal with health care. We have dispositive evidence that you conservatives did disband exactly those teams and those offices of the government which were set up to provide rapid responses to exactly this sort of health crises. We know you conservatives fought health insurance and sick leave and every other means of breaking that awful exponential curve from the day Trump took office. So, yes, we have direct cause and effect. Goodness, you knew about this in December (the briefings given to the White House are now public record, you can't pretend anymore they weren't) and you wasted all of December and all of January and all of February.
How much more direct need it get?

fuow Dave G. 17 hours ago • edited
You spent the eight years of the Obama presidency making the most outrageous claims about FEMA death camps and a return to open racism I had thought we'd not see in the USA again.

Of course commentators are going to speculate on the damage this failure to protect the American people will do to the Trump re-election, and the sycophants in the Republican Party. That does not mean anyone wants to see people die.

I, a yellow-dog, would gladly trade another four years of Trump for the lives of those already lost to this virus and those yet to come. And I am as far to the Left as any Democrat and have as much anger at the fundagelical Christians as any gay man of my age for what they did to us during the Aids Holocaust. You're not going to find any large group of people on the left wishing death and destruction on our fellow citizens just to get rid of Trump.

Now, asking our fellows on the Left to please set aside purity testing for once and to get out and vote. That's where you'll find our energies focused.

Dave G. fuow 15 hours ago
Who? Me? I never bought into those. And I condemned those who railed against Obama because of racism. I also railed against those who exploited or encouraged racism and used racism for political expediency. As for the virus, we'll have to see. Again and again, take precautions, err on the side of too much caution. But as each and every medical expert says, stop the panic. And that includes exploiting this, like racism of old, for political gain.
marqueemoons Dave G. 3 days ago
I don't think anyone genuinely hopes that. Surely not?!
Dave G. marqueemoons 3 days ago
I'm sure some do. Why not? We have no problem saying some want war in the Middle East just for oil. Or that some want this or that policy that could hurt or kill minorities because racism. I'm often taken by the ease with which we will ascribe the most horrible desires and motives, and then turn on a dime and act shocked when the same principle is applied to a different group of people. I don't believe the majority do. Though you can't help but wonder when you hear people smack down any good or positive news and want to emphasize only the worst case scenarios. Especially when, for the last three years, this is only the latest case where, largely due to Trump, we're on the brink, we're going to die, and that's that.
marqueemoons Dave G. 2 days ago
Before that, Obama was creating death panels and the government was creating concentration camps and stockpiling bullets... this time, though, it's a bit different. There have been major blunders by Trump but he's managed to push past them. The virus won't be browbeaten and its cold science to look at the numbers seen elsewhere in the world and draw the conclusion that this will be most severe, and that Trump's wilful unpreparedness will contribute to it.

Under Trump the CDC has cut its budget for pandemic preparedness by 80% (in 2018) and Bolton oversaw the termination of the heads of pandemic response. I think we can safely assume that these measures weakened the response to the threat (that and Trump's baffling nonchalance when he could have been preparing cannot logically have failed to cost lives as potential carriers went about their day-to-day lives.

Dave G. marqueemoons 2 days ago
And I didn't care for such hysterics then, either. The only difference is that when such over the top hysterics were aimed at Obama, much of the mass media swung in to defend Obama and attack and marginalize those trying to whip people into frenzies. For the last three years, however, it's been those same media outlets leading the panic and latest doomsday sky is falling shout fests. If people are being to slow to take this seriously, it might just be a little of the old Boy Who Cried Wolf.
stephen pickard Dave G. 2 days ago
OK, I read all that you have said. I lived through the end of WW11, the Korean war, the red scare( drinking water being poisoned by flouride) hot cold war( getting under desks) the polio epidemic( touch one's chin to your chest test) the measles, the Cuban crisis, the Vietnam war, the 68 riots, the killing of students at Kent State, the drug epidemic of the 60's, all of the financial melt downs for the last 70 years, the gas shortages, aids, all of the middle east wars, all of the stock market crashes, 9-11, the sex revolution, the civil rights assassinations, segregation, terrorism both foreign and domestic, and too many other threats to remember. Frankly there have been a few years patched together when life was generally without one crisis or another. Mostly when I was younger but only because I didn't understand much about the fact that life is just so messy. My family would be considered lower middle class alway pinching pennies. I thought we were just like everyone else though. I do recall being very afraid about epidemics, nuclear war, commies under every rock and so on. Through all of these things we persisted not because we were unusually strong but rather because that's just what you do. We had good leaders, not so good leaders, government was good in most ways not so much in other ways. The American dream was met by most of my generation , thus there are fewer mountains to climb. Now world wide data tells us that those measures of progress have improved in ways unimaginable in my youth of the 40's. Without a question Trump is the worst human being ever to be elected to the Presidency. Sure there were other deeply compromised leaders, but their private lives were not on display. This time it is different. The unprecedented lies, the unprecedented malfeasance permitted to languish, the unprecedented unqualified Presidential appointments and the like surely makes it seem that we are , this time going down the tubes. I do not share that view. We will get by, your children should not be scarred for life, you and they will soldier on, a vaccine will be formulated, the economy will regroup with sound businesses surving, God fearing people will go to church, schools will continue to muddle along with some new educational theory implemented. So buck up, remain vigilant, raise your children to be strong, take it one day at a time. I could go on about the life of my 102 year old father who was born in 1918 during the Spanish flu outbreak that took his life mother's life. Oh yes , WW11, the great depression of 1929, the dust bowl, and everything since. He still sees the news. But he is now worried about one thing. Global climate change brought on by the world's use of fossil fuel. I share the old man's concern. I have recounted all these things to help put today's problems in perspective. But If we do not address climate issues, then nothing else much matters to my great grandchildren, and your grandchildren. As my dad told me yesterday, " good luck and God speed ".
marqueemoons Dave G. 2 days ago
Good for you; I think the response to Obama's 'death panels' etc was probably defensive because it was clearly entirely based on fever-dreams. Whereas Trump is actually saying these things. And while there have been some doomsday predictions, this one is the real thing and the administration response has been not just unproductive (when it could have been manufacturing ventilators) but counter-productive (rejecting WHO testing kits, making clear that more tests meant more cases and more cases weren't welcome, telling the nation Trump had a hunch things wouldn't be bad) and before that, cutting pandemic response budgets by 80% and getting rid of the team responsible for pandemic response. The latter two are typically Republican (removing redundancy from government is fairly central to the platform) but a wrong belief being shared doesn't make it any less wrong.
fuow Dave G. 17 hours ago
You have FOX News. You have all the fundagelical churches. Trump just award the Medal of Freedom to a man who is telling people the COVID 19 virus is just another cold bug.
fuow Dave G. 18 hours ago
I'm just not seeing us liberals and progressives say that the want people to die to be rid of Trump. I do agree that we on the Left are deeply concerned about the things Trump has done (and failed to do.) Global climate change is seen by us as an existential threat.
Dave G. fuow 15 hours ago
Of course not. But think of how we assume with ease that any and all criticism of Obama was likely racism. Think of the speed with which we'll say any involvement in the Middle East is only because of oil and greed. That's what's called having the institutions that make the social narrative on your side. I have no doubt there were those who only cared about oil or didn't like Obama because of racism. But it's absurd to think such foul motives exist only one on political side. No doubt there are those hoping for a full blown catastrophe, no matter the cost, in order to beat Obama, just as they hoped for (if not encouraged) a collapse and ruin in our response to 9/11 in order to make Bush look bad. Heck, they began yelling Recession for almost three years before it hit in 2008. I doubt all of it was motivated by pure concern. I have no problem believing that any group has its worst elements. But right now, my concern is those who are pushing this past the panic that everyone is warning against, and it's not just liberal opponents of Trump.
fuow Dave G. 18 hours ago
I follow quite a few liberal and progressive sites (and TAC, because it's good to be reminded that there are still some, if only few, sane conservatives left). The only places I'm seeing such calls are re-posted comments from the far-right, hoping to incite anger and revenge against us thar libruls.

Nobody on the Left wants a tanked economy, much less people dying just to end the worst Republican presidency of the twenty-first century.

On a practical level, the only people now left clinging to Trump are the sort who not only deny global climate change, but believe supply-side economics will solve everything and COVID 19 causes nothing but a mild cold.

Everyone else is seriously thinking about what to do in November this year. When you've lost even Dreher, you've lost it. Gay bashing and domination over women will just have to take a back seat to rebuilding what will be left of our country.

OrthoAnabaptist 3 days ago
Finally, he's unable to twist, outrun or scapegoat his way out of reality. Reaping what he is (and sows)... should've tried something a little more diplomatic with China than a punitive trade war...
PR Doucette 3 days ago
Unfortunately the COVID-19 crisis is showing that Trump really has no real leadership abilities but is only a reactionary. If he was a real leader instead of pretending that banning Europeans was going to protect the US, which is highly doubtful, he had urged all schools and universities to close immediately for the next 2-4 weeks as it is increasingly recognized that healthy children and young adults can be infected with COVID-19 but not show any symptoms and are therefore a major cause of the spread of COVID-19, in part because of their personal hygiene practices being less fastidious than adults. Real leaders make hard choices that are not always popular. Trump seems so lacking in leadership abilities that he doesn't even seem to recognize the hard choices he has to make if he really wants to protect Americans.
Luke 3 days ago
Y2K pandemonium? Whatever. Coders worked hard to iron out the date glitches before they caused problems. Planes falling out of the sky was never a real possibility.

As for this...

Why were American supply chains so, completely vulnerable to the turmoil emanating from a mafia state such as China? Why was John Bolton, as national security advisor, allowed to take such a narrow view of national security that he shuttered a special bureau dedicated to pandemics?

That's what happens when you mix corporate greed and Republican-controlled governments. Both Bush and Trump hired Bolton.

bumbershoot 3 days ago
The man is not fit to lead.
Feral Finster 3 days ago • edited
Even if COVID-19 proves to be a "hoax" or just a damp squib, we have now seen with our own eyes how Trump will react to a real crisis, not just in Puerto Rico but right here.

Suffice it to say, that this evidence does not give us any reason for confidence in our intrepid leader.

Mid Maryland 3 days ago
He's not "facing his fiercest trial". He's running away from it. The first thing he did was pass the buck to Pence, who handed it off to a bunch of incompetent political appointees at CDC, who botched it because they were corrupt mediocrities, totally out of their depth, and trying to do whatever they thought would keep Trump happy and maybe enrich some of their own cronies.
Riverton Mid Maryland 2 days ago
"corrupt mediocrities, totally out of their depth, and trying to do whatever they thought would keep Trump happy and maybe enrich some of their own cronies."

Don't say that like it's past tense, "Mid Maryland". It's about to happen. There will be endless pallets of cash, billions, even trillions. It will be floating all over the place, totally untraceable, like in Afghanistan or Iraq. By the time this virus is finished with us, not only will Wall Street and the New York banks be bailed out again, but screw-ups like Seema Verma and other hacks hired by Trump and Pence will be multimillionaires. You just watch.

Fayez Abedaziz 3 days ago
Aside from the facts that no President has ever been as filthy mouthed, crude and insulting, bum Trump iis actually one of the FI's- a term I think I made up, but whatever- Trump is one of the 'Functioning Insane.' I'm telling you all: this guy, along with Vice President Pence, Jared Kushner and Pompeo and Esper at 'defense,' should be removed because they are mentally socio-pathic. They don't value human life. They're gonna lead this nation to misery that would be truly tragic. Appoint a commission from the Congresses and remove these weirdos now!

Then new people will be be at the next election for President.

And, I'll say: ever since I came to America when I was seven years old, I'm truly watching a horror show between big mouth Trump's solving nothing anywhere, just actually...making everything worse.

By the way, it doesn't bother anyone that Trump's daughter and Kushner, her husband are deciding wars and so on for America? For America's troops and their families? That Pence is a strange weirdo 'end of times' extremist religious nut?

I'm thinking now that every other American is an FI.

F in Leadership 2 days ago
Trump already flunked "his fiercest trial". He wasted two months denying the reality and gravity of the threat, and now it's spreading all over the country.
southern still 2 days ago
The "trial" is over. Trump is finished. Hopefully the cowardly Republican senators up for election this year will be kicked out along with the man they voted to acquit. I say this as someone who voted for Trump with misgivings but also a lot of hope, goodwill, and prayers. Now I just pray that we will be spared any more consequences of electing him.

[Mar 16, 2020] Trump s Coronavirus Control Failure by Daniel Larison

Notable quotes:
"... False and contradictory statements, wrong judgments, bad decisions, a tour-de-force of managerial incompetence ... Trump's virus response has helped to spread the disease. ..."
"... It was never "under control". It isn't under control because of Trump's stupidity and incompetence, and the stupidity and incompetence of the people he hires. ..."
"... Trump has blown many opportunities, but this time he may end up blowing up his chances for reelection, and a lot else, besides. ..."
"... As much as I loathe HRC, I think her administration would have handled this virus situation much better. Believe me, I hate to say it, but I think it's true. ..."
"... In grudging fairness to the casino swindler, this is what comes of a half-century right-wing campaign to gut public services of all kinds, and to paint scientists (as well as intellectuals generally) as an enemy. ..."
"... Now we find that American public health machinery -- perhaps **the** most fundamental function of governance -- can't even competently put together 19th-Century level quarantine measures. This is where 40 years of Reaganism was always going to end up. Same with Trump, who, far from being some kind of Russian puppet, has always been the perfect representative of what the Republican Party truly is . ..."
"... Budget cuts to the CDC budget only became an issue with the advent of the coronavirus. In November, the status of this virus may well determine the outcome of the elections. ..."
Mar 15, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com
The president continues to mislead the public about the government's response to coronavirus:

Trump in January (first US case): "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China."

Trump in February (36 confirmed cases): "We have it very much under control in this country."

Trump today (3,000+ cases): "It's something we have tremendous control of."

-- Daniel Dale (@ddale8) March 15, 2020

The president has repeatedly paired false promises of "control" with inadequate or wrongheaded measures that have contributed to the worsening of the situation. Last week's announcement of a 30-day ban on travel from some parts of Europe not only caused a panic among Americans because the president failed to describe the policy correctly, but it also set up a dangerous situation where returning Americans would face a huge bottleneck at major airports where customs officials were completely unprepared for the influx of travelers. The lack of resources and manpower combined with the lack of safety preparations meant that thousands upon thousands of people, some of them infected with the virus, were crushed together for many hours. If the goal had been to enable the spread of the virus to as many people as possible, one could hardly have designed it better.

Cheryl Benard recounts her experience at Dulles International Airport as she returned from Europe:

I had thought I was lucky to get one of the last seats home. And I was confident, because Dulles had been identified by the administration as one of the handful of U.S. airports equipped to test arriving passengers and admit or quarantine them accordingly, that I would find a rigorous protocol in place upon arrival. Obviously, the administration would not take such a momentous step without solid preparation.

I could not have been more wrong. Upon landing, I spent three hours in a jammed immigration hall trying to decide which analogy fit better: the ignorant Middle Ages during the plague years or the most chaotic airport in the least developed country [bold mine-DL].

The pictures you may have seen only begin to capture the chaos. There was no attempt to enable social distancing; we were packed closely together. Two giant queues of people -- one for U.S. citizens and green-card holders and one for foreign nationals -- wound their way through the cavernous hall. I counted and came up with approximately 450 people in each section, for a total of just under a thousand. Many were coughing, sneezing and looking unwell.

When I inched closer to the front, I could see that a scant six immigration desks were in service. Two additional desks to the left had less traffic. These are ordinarily for people in wheelchairs; now, the wheelchairs were mixed in with the rest. When I asked a security guard about the other lines, he told me they were for people with a confirmed corona diagnosis. There was no separation for this group -- no plastic sheets, not even a bit of distance. When your line snaked to the left, you were inches away from the infected [bold mine-DL].

The mess at Dulles was replicated at O'Hare, DFW, JFK, and elsewhere. There were no preparations made because this administration never prepares for anything and doesn't think more than one move ahead. Jeremy Konyndyk was understandably appalled by the latest in a series of debacles:

This is disastrous. Sign of hastily made, poorly planned, terribly executed policy. https://t.co/IoQ0auLrms

-- Jeremy FLATTEN THE CURVE Konyndyk (@JeremyKonyndyk) March 15, 2020

Other airports too. Good God. You could hardly invent a better scenario for superspreading events.

Any cases of COVID in these crowds will have a far higher chance of spreading to others in these lines than if they were just allowed in unchecked. https://t.co/VONae40vHU

-- Jeremy FLATTEN THE CURVE Konyndyk (@JeremyKonyndyk) March 15, 2020

Meanwhile, one of the things that the government might be doing to get the situation more under control is one of the things that they keep failing to do:

The US population is estimated at 333 million.

As of Friday afternoon, the @TheAtlantic could verify only 16,471 people have been tested.

South Korea, by this point in its #COVID -19 outbreak, had tested 100,000+ people. https://t.co/v3RgdA7nTb @ASlavitt #coronavirus

-- David Beard (@dabeard) March 15, 2020

When asked about the testing failure last week, the president infamously said , "I don't take responsibility at all." When pressed on the 2018 decision to eliminate the global health security team from the National Security Council that Trump approved on Bolton's recommendation, the president professed ignorance about it and said that "someone else" had done it. As always, Trump's own actions are someone else's fault, and he accepts no responsibility for anything while seeking to take all the credit for other people's work. The president will keep lying to the public that everything is under control while doing as little as possible to bring the outbreak under control.

In the midst of this ongoing failure, the Surgeon General berated the media for covering the administration's major failures:

The surgeon general just said from WH briefing podium, "no more finger-pointing or criticism" and called for "less stories looking at what happened in the past.

-- Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) March 14, 2020

Criticism and calling attention to mistakes made by the government are the things that are supposed to make our political system better able to adapt and learn from failure. Understanding how and why government officials made critical errors is essential to limiting the damage from those errors and, if possible, rectifying them. Telling journalists that they should write fewer stories about how things got to this point is to tell them that they should give up any pretense of being reporters and just resign themselves to stenography. If not for the finger-pointing and criticism directed against the administration's slow and inadequate response, it is likely that things would already be even worse than they are. Were it not for the very public embarrassment that extensive media overage of the government's mistakes has caused the president and his allies, the administration would have felt no pressure to change. As it is, the administration is still not moving quickly enough, but if they weren't being pushed by intense public scrutiny they would be even more behind than they are.


Broad Street 7 hours ago

False and contradictory statements, wrong judgments, bad decisions, a tour-de-force of managerial incompetence ... Trump's virus response has helped to spread the disease.

It was never "under control". It isn't under control because of Trump's stupidity and incompetence, and the stupidity and incompetence of the people he hires.

Feral Finster 6 hours ago
It is truly rich that Trump had a golden opportunity to look decisive and presidential, to lead a frightened public to safety, and in an election year, no less. A golden opportunity, and Trump blew it.
blimbax Feral Finster 4 hours ago
Trump has blown many opportunities, but this time he may end up blowing up his chances for reelection, and a lot else, besides.

As much as I loathe HRC, I think her administration would have handled this virus situation much better. Believe me, I hate to say it, but I think it's true.

fuow blimbax an hour ago
I must agree. Hillary would not have done much of what I, a liberal Democrat, wanted to see done. Her administration, however, would have been filled with intelligent, competent people and the plans already in place (thank you, President Obama!) would have been put into practice in December, when our monitors in China reported what was happening without the spin.
sglover 6 hours ago
In grudging fairness to the casino swindler, this is what comes of a half-century right-wing campaign to gut public services of all kinds, and to paint scientists (as well as intellectuals generally) as an enemy.

America has had a hand in.many genuine triumphs of public health over the last century. Yellow fever. Hookworm eradication. Polio. Lots more. Things you'd think Americans might be proud of. But right-wingers and chest-thumping "patriot" types never seem to give a damn about those *cultural* achievements. Not "moral" or "patriotic" enough. Doesn't get the blood pumping, apparently.

Now we find that American public health machinery -- perhaps **the** most fundamental function of governance -- can't even competently put together 19th-Century level quarantine measures. This is where 40 years of Reaganism was always going to end up. Same with Trump, who, far from being some kind of Russian puppet, has always been the perfect representative of what the Republican Party truly is .

(More precisely, the right-wing coalition it represents. The Republican Party per se seems to be a kind of administrative husk.)

Disqus10021 sglover 5 hours ago
In grudging fairness to the casino swindler, we should remember that a lot of the readers of this web site voted for Trump in 2016 because he promised to nominate conservative candidates to Federal courts and because he was opposed to abortion. These same voters helped give Republicans a majority in both the House and Senate for the following two years. Budget cuts to the CDC budget only became an issue with the advent of the coronavirus. In November, the status of this virus may well determine the outcome of the elections.
sglover Disqus10021 3 hours ago • edited
a lot of the readers of this web site voted for Trump in 2016 because he promised to nominate conservative candidates to Federal courts and because he was opposed to abortion.

Yes. And those Federalist Society-spawned judges will be a valuable asset to corporate boards all around the world, for years to come! Congrats to those readers, on their big score! But I hope they're not dumb enough to believe that they are getting a cut of the asset stripping....

Budget cuts to the CDC budget only became an issue with the advent of the coronavirus.

Right. Similarly, the cuts to the fire department budget only became an issue during, you know, fires , when it turned out that the hoses were full of leaks. An awkward discovery at an awkward time, no?

fuow Disqus10021 an hour ago • edited
There is great danger in making a pact with the Devil - and that is precisely what conservative Christians did by putting Trump in office.

The danger lies not in Satan breaching the terms of the agreement. Just the opposite. The conservative Christians got what they wanted - judges who will do their damnedest to turn this country into a conservative Christian theocracy. Satan delivered to the letter.

Unfortunately for the conservative Christians, the mechanism of delivery turned out to be Trump. The price for those judges is the debasement of the Christian faith for generations to come.

Well played, Satan. Well fooled, conservative Christians.

Pacta sunt servanda...and the bill has just come do. Oh, and I wouldn't count on those judges for too long, either. You have managed the unthinkable - uniting the Democratic Party.

cka2nd sglover 5 hours ago
Agreed, but let's not forget how deeply the Democratic Party bought into the neo-liberal, Reaganite consensus, including privatization and contracting out hollowing out public agencies and ceding competence and self-policing to the private sector
sglover cka2nd 3 hours ago
True, but really theirs are mostly sins of omission and timidity. They're lousy defenders and advocates for public interests, but they generally don't go wrecking working, useful institutions on ignorant whims.
kouroi 6 hours ago
Classy Trump and the US, trying to buy a German company working on Coronavirus vaccine, but to make it available only for the US. The German government was not amused:

https://www.politico.eu/art...

Is the US the Evil Empire?

sglover kouroi 6 hours ago
I love how these gangsters are making my country loathed throughout the world. Gratuitously. I've yet to hear the Trump cult explain how it can possibly be to **our** advantage, in any situation, to be liked less and disliked more. It's a stunted eight-year old's concept of "respect". The millisecond high of showing them pesky furriners tends to have lingering, unpleasant, expensive aftereffects.
cka2nd kouroi 5 hours ago
Jesus wept.

"'The American regime has committed an extremely unfriendly act,' said Social Democrat MP Karl Lauterbach, who said that German health workers on the front lines — as well as people around the world — needed to have access to something developed in Germany, and that no country should be able to purchase exclusive access to the vaccine."

Until 2001, Lauterbach was a member of Germany's Christian Democratic Union. When's the last time you saw a mainstream European politician refer to the American government as a "regime?"

"'Capitalism has limits,' he said."

Sounds like Bernie Sanders, no?

[Mar 16, 2020] Dr. Fauci Says He's Open To National Shutdown, Warns Domestic Travel Ban Not Out Of The Question

Notable quotes:
"... "I think Americans should be prepared that they are going to have to hunker down significantly more than we as a country are doing," Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on NBC's "Meet the Press." ..."
"... people in areas with "obvious community spread" need to be extremely cautious. All people everywhere still need to be practicing social distancing, including young people who think they're not a high risk for severe infection. ..."
"... "I'm not saying the rest of the country is okay...but if you are in an area where there is clear community spread you want' to be very, very, very cautious." ..."
"... Pressed about the response on "Face the Nation", Dr. Fauci said the "peak" of the outbreak in the US will hopefully be lower than the numbers seen in Italy. "I want to be overreacting," Dr. Fauci said. He added that the US is practicing travel bans and containment and mitigation in the country, and while "it is correct that case numbers will go up" he hopes that the US will never get to that "really bad peak". ..."
"... "If you're elderly...you shouldn't put yourself in a place where you're around crowded people." ..."
"... It may come to the situation that we "strongly recommend...myself personally I wouldn't go to a restaurant because I have an important job to do" Dr. Fauci said. But he didn't say whether all Americans should avoid going out, or if he would support blanket closures. ..."
"... we have a strategic national stockpile of ventilators and things like that. ..."
"... As far as how long it will take for the US to "rev up" testing, he said his understanding of where we are with the "companies who are getting involved" is that we will have "enough" tests in a few days, and that the number will only continue to go up. ..."
Mar 16, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Dr. Anthony Fauci has just performed a legendary feet for politicos and public servants in Washington: On Sunday, he appeared on all five of the major national "Sunday Shows" of the main news networks: ABC's "This Week", CNN's "State of the Union", CBS's "Face the Nation", NBC's "Meet the Press" and Fox News's "Fox News Sunday", cementing his role as the face of the federal response to the coronavirus outbreak that has emptied out super markets and stoked panic across the US, where nearly 60 have already died.

Overall, his tone was optimistic, but cautious. During his appearance on CNN, Fauci acknowledged that "it's possible" that "millions could die" from the virus if the US didn't act quickly to combat the outbreak. During his interview on "Meet the Press," Dr. Fauci said he would "open" to a 14-day shutdown of schools and businesses in the US. He also said that Americans should be prepared to "hunker down" for a while.

"I think Americans should be prepared that they are going to have to hunker down significantly more than we as a country are doing," Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

He told Chuck Todd that all Americans need to be cautious, but people in areas with "obvious community spread" need to be extremely cautious. All people everywhere still need to be practicing social distancing, including young people who think they're not a high risk for severe infection.

"I'm not saying the rest of the country is okay...but if you are in an area where there is clear community spread you want' to be very, very, very cautious."

Though he said we shouldn't close every school in the country right now, he said local officials need to remain "ahead of the curve", and even said he would be in favor of some kind of national shut down, if not for 14 days, but for as "long as we could."

"I would prefer as much as we possibly we could. I think we should be very aggressive and make a point of overreacting."

On "Fox News Sunday", Dr. Fauci was asked whether he would support a domestic travel ban. He replied that though it hasn't been seriously considered, he would be open to a domestic travel ban like what Italy did, and that such a national lockdown wouldn't be "out of the question."

"That has not been seriously considered - doing travel bans in the country - though we are keeping a lot of things in mind," Dr. Fauci said, before ending the interview.

While certain members of Congress were encouraging Americans to go out and live their lives, Dr. Fauci said Americans should avoid bars and restaurants.

"I would like to see a dramatic diminution of the personal interaction that we see in restaurants and in bars."

He added that any elective surgeries should be cancelled: "Anybody who doesn't need to be in the hospitals...keep them out of the hospitals" he said on "Meet the Press".

Pressed about the response on "Face the Nation", Dr. Fauci said the "peak" of the outbreak in the US will hopefully be lower than the numbers seen in Italy. "I want to be overreacting," Dr. Fauci said. He added that the US is practicing travel bans and containment and mitigation in the country, and while "it is correct that case numbers will go up" he hopes that the US will never get to that "really bad peak".

While the mortality rate in China looked to be about 3%, a number that is "quite high", Dr. Fauci noted, he hoped the rate in the US would be around 1%, which is still 10x greater than the flu's 0.1%.

"Overwhelmingly more people recover from this than have serious trouble," Dr. Fauci said.

Should Americans get on a plane right now? Fauci was asked on "Face the Nation".

Dr. Fauci said vulnerable Americans should avoid all travel and avoid public places whenever possible.

"If you're elderly...you shouldn't put yourself in a place where you're around crowded people."

It may come to the situation that we "strongly recommend...myself personally I wouldn't go to a restaurant because I have an important job to do" Dr. Fauci said. But he didn't say whether all Americans should avoid going out, or if he would support blanket closures.

Asked what's the plan if hospitals get overwhelmed, Dr. Fauci assured his interviewer that the government's efforts should prevent this from happening, though he couldn't rule out the possibility that this would happen...and plan for it.

"We're doing everything we can to make sure that worst case scenario will happen. It's possible they could be...but if in fact there's a scenario that's very severe, it's conceivable that would happen, which is why we have a strategic national stockpile of ventilators and things like that.

"We would not be being realistic if we weren't to say that possibility didn't exist...but there is planning to prevent that."

As far as how long it will take for the US to "rev up" testing, he said his understanding of where we are with the "companies who are getting involved" is that we will have "enough" tests in a few days, and that the number will only continue to go up.

Watch the interviews below:

[Mar 15, 2020] The projections for NYC are sobering, to say the least

If you think about it, NYC enornment with its high density of population, subway and recirculating airconditioners is not that different from the environment of the cruise ship like Daemon princess. So around 10% of population can be affected. That's over one million. assuming 15% of severe cases that 150K patients.
Mar 15, 2020 | twitter.com

(1/11) The #NYC Region is in trouble. Our #COVID19 case load is growing so quickly that we risk running out of hospital beds in UNDER TWO WEEKS. To avoid a crisis at our hospitals, we need to act now. 1,200 hospital beds are not enough. @BilldeBlasio @NYCSpeakerCoJo @NYGovCuomo pic.twitter.com/QLpWr6bIWQ

-- Michael Donnelly (@donnellymjd) March 12, 2020

[Mar 14, 2020] Seven things China has done right to battle coronavirus

Mar 14, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

psychohistorian , Mar 14 2020 5:52 utc | 210

Below is a link to Xinhuanet and following it are the story section headings

Seven things China has done right to battle coronavirus

1. FULL RESPONSE
2. MASS MOBILIZATION
3. POLITICAL DETERMINATION
4. TIMELY POLICY ADJUSTMENT
5. EASING ECONOMIC PAIN WHILE FIGHTING DISEASE
6. TRANSPARENCY, COORDINATED ACTION
7. POWER OF SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY

China is a civilization state making the West look highly immature.

Norwegian , Mar 14 2020 5:56 utc | 211

@c1ue 164
So yes, connect the dots. Why is Italy worse than the US - when the US trades far more?

Because the US sees it as a war about economic supremacy? The US has no problem trading with China. The problem starts when China trades with other countries. The US is waging a war against european countries by forcing them to sanction on Russia (while itself trading with Russia), sabotaging Nord Stream 2, and now we have this mishap in Italy which happens to trade with China. Connect the dots indeed.

[Mar 14, 2020] Here is a table showing the "doubling time" of the spread of the virus for various countries.

Mar 14, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

atomician , Mar 14 2020 8:55 utc | 230

Here is a table showing the "doubling time" of the spread of the virus for various countries.
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus
Italy's doubling time is 4 days, which brought its health care system near to collapse. Note that the US doubling time is 3 days! And this may be an underestimate because testing has been hindered, and many case are undetected. The doubling time for China is an impressive 32 days.

[Mar 14, 2020] Trump rightly announced a national emergency, marking a sharp shift in his approach to the greatest crisis of his presidency. by Jacob Heilbrunn

Mar 13, 2020 | nationalinterest.org

It was a somber Donald Trump who spoke at the White House today to declare a "national emergency" and that "we're doing a great job." Gone was his language about exaggerated fears and a "hoax" surrounding the coronavirus. His own daughter, Ivanka, stayed home rather than visit the White House because of her exposure to an Australian official who has the coronavirus.

Not only was the shift in tone marked, but Trump also referred constantly to the numerous public health experts and corporate CEOs flanking him as he faced the biggest crisis of his presidency. Dr. Anthony Fauci indicated that the coronavirus may remain virulent for another eight to nine weeks: "I can't give you a number. It depends how successful we are." Trump himself sought to convey confidence by emphasizing that his administration had moved quickly to impede the spread of the coronavirus, including quickly ordering travel bans. How effective will his emergency declaration prove?

The most important thing that the administration can do is work to remove the uncertainty surrounding the extent of the spread of the virus. Until there is more clarity, economic activity will be hobbled as investors and businesses retreat from incurring any additional risk. In this regard, Trump's decision to announce an emergency was a case of better late than never. Failure is not an option. Left unchecked, the worst-case estimates are that the coronavirus could kill up to 1.5 million people and turn America into Italy writ large. Writing in the Washington Post today, the Italian journalist Monica Maggioni underscores just how grim that prospect would be: "I find myself confined in a place where time is suspended. All the shops are closed, except for groceries and pharmacies. All the bars and restaurants are shuttered. Every tiny sign of life has disappeared. The streets are totally empty; it is forbidden even to take a walk unless you carry a document that explains to authorities why you have left your house. The lockdown that began here in Lombardy now extends to the entire country."

Some of the most important pledges Trump made were that he would offer up to $50 billion in federal funding to states to battle the coronavirus. He indicated that hospitals can now "do as they want. They could do as they have to." He added, "I'm urging every state to set up emergency operations centers effective immediately." He indicated, in response to a question after his opening statement, that he himself would undergo a coronavirus test, something that he had previously resisted. Trump also said that up to five million tests would be available by the end of the month-a lofty goal. The danger for Trump is that, as is his wont, he is overpromising. Still, the move to establish drive-thru testing at places like Walgreens and Walmart parking lots makes good sense. Trump's weakest moment by far came when he responded to a question about the lack of testing that until now has badly hampered efforts to stop the virus-"No, I don't take responsibility at all."

To help prop up the economy, he indicated that government purchases for the strategic reserve would be increased. Wall Street responded positively to Trump's remarks as the stock market rose, ending up almost two thousand points on Friday. But Trump also pooh-poohed a multi-billion dollar bill backed by House Democrats to address the coronavirus crisis, remarking that they "are not doing what's right for the country." Among other things, it does not include the payroll tax relief that Trump is supporting. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is vowing to vote on the bill.

For now, the measures that Trump announced today will mark a significant shift in his administration's approach to the pandemic. Former Food and Drug Administration head Scott Gottlieb tweeted, "Actions by White House today to sharply increase testing capacity and access, declare a national emergency, implement new steps to protect vulnerable Americans, support assistance for those hardest hit by mitigation steps, all very important. Will meaningfully improve readiness."

[Mar 14, 2020] Here's a useful infographic showing the Italian experience of COVID-19

Mar 14, 2020 | www.unz.com

LondonBob , says: Show Comment March 13, 2020 at 11:02 am GMT

Here's a useful infographic showing the Italian experience of COVID-19. Really drives home the need for us to support more vulnerable groups, including elderly and those with chronic diseases. pic.twitter.com/nlk1lPW0Xk

-- Stephen Donnelly (@DonnellyStephen) March 13, 2020

Reposting this graph I added to Steve's blog. Interesting to see when Italy starts to peak, are they already?

Kim , says: Show Comment March 13, 2020 at 11:10 am GMT
@reiner Tor Seems people who smoke have made themselves more vulnerable to the bug. They have done this despite 50 years of vigorous anti-smoking measures and propaganda.

They knew the risks. They rolled the dice. Now they should be sent to the end of the line and treated last.

[Mar 14, 2020] Difficulties of imposition strict quarantine without banning air treval

Mar 14, 2020 | www.unz.com

LondonBob , says: Show Comment March 13, 2020 at 9:14 am GMT

My Chinese colleague from work's parents have been holed up in an apartment in Zhengzhou for 45 days with only minimal freedom to go out for supplies by appointment, then a virtual battery of heat and temperature tests to get back in the building.

The city (10 million) hasn't had a new case for 2 weeks and they were on the verge of relaxing the strict isolation rules.

Then some Chinese fella who'd been travelling in Europe returned to Zhengzhou, travelled home on public transport doing his shopping on the way, and it turns out he's infected.

I don't know the precise translation from mandarin but it was something like "the whole city want to string him up"

[Mar 14, 2020] Italians are frightened and mostly they are following the goverment instructions

Mar 14, 2020 | thesaker.is

Cris on March 12, 2020 , · at 1:05 pm EST/EDT

News from an Italian guy in Switzerland: situation in Italy is heavy, people are frightened but mostly they are following the instructions to stay at home and limit the visits. And people are also frightened because we do not know exactly how this virus works, how much time this blockade will last, and what we will do after. Our society is no more accustomed to turmoils and lack of reliable information.

On the other side of the Alps, still there are less cases but I want to stress that Italy and rest of Europe are following very different instructions. In Italy, they tested almost everybody at the beginning, and now only people with symptoms but also everybody requesting a test for himself. In Europe, in general they are testing only old people with symptoms, while refusing to test young people. So it is easy that the real number of cases are underestimated. Looking at the numbers, I guess that this underestimation in United States is much larger.

Italian government didn't want to be blamed, and probably they want to approve some controversial laws during this blockade when nobody will go to protest. They didn't care about economic damages. Other governments in Europe are more worried for the economy, probably they did a bet to resolve the epidemics while avoiding to discover the real numbers.

Concerning the number of deaths, in Italy is much higher for at least three reasons: lack of beds in the hospitals, heavily reduced due to the austerity with respect to the rest of Europe, an aging population, and the fact that they are ascribing to the virus also deaths occurred probably for previous illnesses in the presence of the virus as concause. In most of other countries, they are not checking after death.

We will hold on, meanwhile let us stay tuned also on big markets collapse and, obviously, on Syria

Thanks for your work!
Best

[Mar 14, 2020] US military intelligence came to the conclusion over a month ago that coronavirus cases would reach "pandemic proportions" domestically by the end of March.

Mar 14, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Alpi , Mar 13 2020 23:09 utc | 145

Rather ominous article from W. Webb in Mintpress:

https://www.mintpressnews.com/us-intelligence-unsettling-role-classified-9-11-like-coronavirus-response/265687/

This quote is particularly trouble some:

" While the plans of the federal government remain classified, recent reports have revealed that the military and intelligence communities -- now working with the NSC to develop the government's coronavirus response -- have anticipated a massive explosion in cases for weeks. U.S. military intelligence came to the conclusion over a month ago that coronavirus cases would reach "pandemic proportions" domestically by the end of March. That military intelligence agency, known as the National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI), coordinates closely with the National Security Agency (NSA) to conduct "medical SIGINT [signals intelligence]."

[Mar 14, 2020] The Chinese media has been touting the narrative of quick recover, fast-track resumption of the economy since the epidemic started.

Mar 14, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

vk , Mar 14 2020 1:39 utc | 175

@ Posted by: JasonT | Mar 13 2020 23:53 utc | 155

That may end up being the case for the USA and other western democracies, but definitely not for China:

Commentary: Do not let economic globalization fall victim of pandemic

China to fast-track work resumption across industrial chain

And those are just from today. The Chinese media has been touting this narrative (quick recover, fast-track resumption of the economy, keep the targets for the year) since the epidemic started.

[Mar 14, 2020] Man Walks Out Of 'Quarantine Motel' Goes Shopping, Hops On Public Bus

Mar 14, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Man Walks Out Of 'Quarantine Motel' & Goes Shopping, Hops On Public Bus by Tyler Durden Sat, 03/14/2020 - 16:25 The pattern in many major cities hard-hit by coronavirus has been to utilize hotels as quarantine centers as local health facilities become overwhelmed. And yet in some instances especially in the West, there's ambiguity surrounding quarantine of confirmed or suspected cases as legally 'mandatory' or merely 'urged' and strongly suggested.

Though nearly unprecedented in recent American history, 'motel quarantine' is fast becoming a thing in places like Washington State and California, the latter witnessing Gov. Gavin Newsom issuing an executive order Thursday allowing some city authorities to take over hotels and motels for medical use , including in places like Sacramento and the San Francisco area. Such methods are being used especially for returning cruise ship passengers with potential exposure.

But in an explosive and unusual story which is likely to become a more common occurrence as 'motel quarantine' grows and as the line between civil liberties vs. health authorities' mandate remains blurred, Bloomberg details that a man walked straight out of coronavirus quarantine near the hardest hit area near Seattle and onto a public bus .

Security guard walks in front of the former EconoLodge in Kent. Image source: Seattle Times

"In an incident sure to stir debate around the Seattle-area's motel for isolating people who might have the coronavirus, one of its first tenants walked out, despite a security guard's attempts to stop him," the Bloomberg report begins.

"The man arrived Thursday while awaiting test results, according to a statement from King County, which recently bought the site in a suburb south of Seattle to ease the burden on local hospitals."

The following morning the man was seen crossing the street to browse a local convenience store where he allegedly shoplifted.

Security camera screengrab provided from local police of quarantined man exiting the hotel premises, via The Seattle Times.

He then boarded a public bus, which was immediately after taken out of service when authorities learned of the situation.

According to The Seattle Times , the man's test later came back negative, but not before causing a local panic :

By Friday evening, the person's test results had come back negative, but not before raising questions about how the county planned to address staffing and security at quarantine facilities as more people become sick.

The person had been experiencing homelessness and was placed at the motel Thursday night.

The incident underscored what will be a staggering challenge ahead of public officials as the virus continues to spread: how to quarantine "hundreds or thousands" of people who become sick in coming months and aren't able to stay in their own homes, or don't have homes in which to stay .

The Econo Lodge-turned-coronavirus-quarantine site on Central Avenue North in Kent, near Seattle:

Via Kent Reporter

The bizarre episode took place at an 85-room Econo Lodge in Kent, located within the sprawling Seattle–Tacoma metropolitan area.

This morning:
Plan to use Kent motel as "quarantine site" for #coronavirus patients stirs concern. @KellyKOMO4 with the details... https://t.co/z6jQ3myJCR #komonews #COVID19 pic.twitter.com/TzL2FB9DWC

-- Ryan Yamamoto KOMO (@YamsTV) March 5, 2020

"The fears that we have stated and the concerns we had from the beginning when we knew this facility was going to be put in Kent at that motel have all come true," said Kent Mayor Dana Ralph. "The things we predicted would happen have happened."

The motel had recently been purchased by the county and repurposed as a quarantine site - a deeply controversial moved which has drawn the ire of local residents, who fear more such "breaches" involving quarantined and possibly infected individuals.

[Mar 13, 2020] Bureaucracy, equipment shortages, an unwillingness to share, and failed leadership doomed the American response to COVID-19

Mar 13, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Tom_LX , Mar 13 2020 20:10 utc | 104

Here come the excuses,

Health

The 4 Key Reasons the U.S. Is So Behind on Coronavirus Testing

Bureaucracy, equipment shortages, an unwillingness to share, and failed leadership doomed the American response to COVID-19.

Excuses via ATLANTIC

[Mar 13, 2020] Life in Rome by Robert Waldmann

Mar 13, 2020 | angrybearblog.com
Hot Topics I am in a city with a curfew (enforced ?) where only pharmacies, supermarkets and those stores where someone from China sells all sorts of household stuff are open. Rome hasn't reached the dread levels of Wuhan and Milan, but the Italian government is trying to get ahead of the curve.

It is strange and alarming that there is little traffic (it is also impressive that Romans don't obey the traffic code even when there is little traffic). People are really trying to stay home all the time (I was semi home bound before it was cool).

I have learned about the activities which people consider absolutely necessary. A large fraction of people walking around are walking dogs. Many people are wearing masks (absolutely sold out everywhere) and gloves. I discover there are some things I have to touch. These include an ATM (alarmingly often) and cash.

One striking thing is that people wait outside of the supermarkets and pharmacies. This is a rule that does not have to be enforced -- people are scared. Good thing it's not cold in Rome during March (or February or actually ever at all in the globally warmed year of our lord 2019/2020). This makes me notice the high rates of infection in Iceland and Norway. I guess up there (where I have been in July with a rain coat) the choice is risk of Covid 19 or of frostbite.

The extreme measures (not just ordered but orders which are actually obeyed, by Romans) are impressive because as of the day before yesterday there were only 200 cases in Lazio (region which includes Rome). The fact that one of the cases was governor Zingaretti (also head of the Italian Democratic Party) might have amde a difference.

The news spreads even faster than the virus. Down here the health care system is under strain but not overwhelmed (yet) but people read about (and see on TV) reports on how in Lombardy Triage has reaquired it's original meaning. During World War I, It was red = critical, yellow = serious monitor but not critical, black = doomed. In normal times black now means deceased.

In Lois Armstrong Airport New Orleans during Katrina there were living people with black tags (for will nor survive a flight and so will die here). I was appalled. Now in parts of Northern Italy there aren't enough respirators for patients who would die without one. This is part of why the Italian case fatality rate is high. It is also important that Italians have had low fertility for decades and are old on average.

I guess I haven't written anything that people don't know already. I will update when the wave of contagion overwhelms us. I fear that I will be giving readers a hint of future action in their home town.

[Mar 13, 2020] Did some running around the local Medical Industrial Complex this morning. What a difference a week makes. The attitude about the coronavirus is completely different from last week.

Mar 13, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

ambrit , March 12, 2020 at 2:24 pm

Reply about conditions in Hattiesburg for Judy2Shoes.
Did some running around the local Medical Industrial Complex this morning. What a difference a week makes. The attitude about the coronavirus is completely different from last week.

Now there are people walking around the clinic and hospital wearing masks, and some 'rubber' gloves. Signs up everywhere about precautions for the coronavirus. When I went to pay off a small bill associated with Phyl's leg case, there was a big sign in the glass door for the Financial Department saying that, essentially, if you show the basic symptoms, do not come into that office but go to the ER entrance for evaluation.

No signs of panic here yet. This region is still "low information" concerning the spread and severity of the pathogen, but at least it is now a major concern locally.

All the best for your uncle.

judy2shoes , March 12, 2020 at 3:22 pm

Thank you so much, Ambrit. That makes me feel better. I have a lot of relatives in MS, but their level of concern has been shaped by the MSM. It's so much better to hear from someone like you, who is actually paying attention.

In my neck of the woods (eastern Washington), I've been trying for weeks to get people to make prudent purchases of staples to store away – just in case.

One elderly neighbor kept saying people were overreacting, but I kept at her, pointing out having a few extra supplies on hand might be a good idea and wouldn't be hoarding.

When I told her that Trump wasn't telling the public the truth, she said that people don't understand that it's his job to keep the public calm. I could have walked her through the dangerous results of his lying (and everything else he's doing), but I let it go. At least she started to collect supplies a couple of weeks ago, and now she's in somewhat of an overreacting mode. I don't care. Whatever keeps her safe.

Best to you and Phyl, Ambrit.

ambrit , March 12, 2020 at 4:46 pm

Less than stellar news addendum.
Do call that 'Assisted Living' place and agitate for your uncle now. This afternoon, local news announces that Hattiesburg has first probable case in Mississippi. A man who visited Florida recently is "self isolated at home" after a first positive test result. Secondary test being done now. Test happening at State lab.
See: https://www.wdam.com/2020/03/12/forrest-county-man-is-first-presumptive-coronavirus-case-miss/
At least the locals are mentally prepared now
Be strong.

MLTPB , March 12, 2020 at 5:37 pm

Didn't Arizona declare war on California in 1934?

Will we see states blocking other states? Can they do that?

ambrit , March 12, 2020 at 7:59 pm

That Lake Havasu travesty is all "Water Over The Dam" now. The real 1930s War was between the Coastals and the Okies. See "The Grapes of Wrath" for a literary rundown on that one. (No Pink P -- y Hats in that fight. People were killed.)
Insofar as the States have their own Health Authorities, they could ban certain types of "contagious" people from entering their environs. I have seen cases of local Organs of State Security requiring exile from a particular State in return for non-prosecution of certain non-violent offenses.
The balance of power between the States and the Federal Government is an always evolving 'situation.'

[Mar 13, 2020] In 2018, Trump fired the entire US pandemic response team.

Notable quotes:
"... The New New Deal ..."
Mar 13, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

deplorado , March 12, 2020 at 2:17 pm

From Twitter:

Judd Legum @JuddLegum

WORTH REPEATING: In 2018, Trump fired the entire US pandemic response team.
These were the experts with decades of experience dealing with precisely the kind of situation we are in today.

Trump did not replace them.

He eliminated the positions.

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1238108656950001666?s=20

allan , March 12, 2020 at 3:10 pm

Another fun fact from Twitter:

Michael Grunwald @MikeGrunwald
I had forgotten my own reporting that @SenatorCollins
stripped $870M for pandemic preparations out of the 2009 stimulus.

[page image from Grunwald's book, The New New Deal ]

11:30 AM · Mar 12, 2020· Twitter for iPhone

There was some discussion here the other day about who's responsible for the sorry state of the CDC
and pandemic preparation in particular. Now, the Dems controlled all the WH, Senate and House in 2009,
so obviously they share some of the blame, but if Collins hadn't demanded this,
it probably wouldn't have happened.

I'm very disappointed with Susan Collins.

Louis Fyne , March 12, 2020 at 3:26 pm

Typical modern, bipartisan American short-termism.

In my opinion, things would not have been not better under a Hillary admin. -- -but at least we'd have a no-fly zone in Syria. USA!

ambrit , March 12, 2020 at 5:42 pm

Now we have a no fly zone in Continental Europe!

[Mar 13, 2020] Czech Prime Minister Andrej Babis called Merkel's remark "unhelpful" and said it could cause panic

Mar 13, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

Dr. Brian Monahan, attending physician of Congress, told a closed-door meeting of Senate staffers this week that 70 million to 150 million Americans -- a third of the nation -- could contract the coronavirus. Dr. Anthony Fauci testified that the mortality rate for COVID-19 will likely run near 1 percent.

Translation: between 750,000 and 1.1 million Americans may die of this disease before it runs its course. The latter figure is equal to all the U.S. dead in World War II and on both sides in the Civil War.

Chancellor Angela Merkel warns that 70 percent of Germany's population -- 58 million people -- could contract the coronavirus. If she is right, and Fauci's mortality rate holds for her country, that could mean more than half a million dead Germans.

Czech Prime Minister Andrej Babis called Merkel's remark "unhelpful" and said it could cause panic. But Harvard epidemiologist Marc Lipsitch seemed to support Merkel, saying between 40 percent and 70 percent of the world's population could become infected.

Again, if Fauci's 1 percent mortality rate and Lipsitch's estimate prove on target, between 3 billion and 5 billion people on earth will be infected, and 30 million to 50 million will die, a death toll greater than that of the Spanish Flu of 1918.

There is, however, some contradictory news.

China, with 81,000 cases, has noted a deceleration in new cases and South Korea appears to be gradually containing the spread of the virus.

Yet Italy, with its large elderly population, may be a harbinger of what is to come in the West. As of Thursday, Italy had reported 12,000 cases and 827 deaths, a mortality rate of nearly 7 percent. This suggests that the unreported and undetected infections in Italy are far more numerous.

In the U.S., the death toll at this writing is 40, a tiny fraction of the annual toll of the tens of thousands who die of the flu.

But the problem is this: COVID-19 has not nearly run its course in the United States, while the reaction in society and the economy approaches what we might expect from a boiling national disaster.

The stock market has plunged further and faster than it did in the Great Crash of 1929. Trillions of dollars in wealth have vanished. If Senator Bernie Sanders does not like "millionaires and billionaires," he should be pleased. There are fewer of them today than there were when he won the New Hampshire primary.

What does the future hold?


[Mar 13, 2020] Data about NYC epidemics are actually very encoraging

Mar 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

OscarWildeLoveChild , says: Show Comment March 13, 2020 at 12:21 pm GMT

@Carlton Meyer I've been following a few doctors on Youtube, for about a month now (dispassionate, evidence-based docs), and their opinions vary on how serious this is.

What I don't is, if this is as contagious as they say (and it does seem to be) and as life-threatening as they say, then given that there are several cases in NYC, why are we not already seeing thousands of deaths there- a city where millions are crammed together daily, many without good hygiene, many who have been for several weeks now, using public transportation. I don't get it. It would seem the effects of any virus that were as bad as they're saying, would already be reaching peak zombie level conditions in places like NYC, Chicago, Boston, SF and DC.

Scratching my head.

[Mar 13, 2020] Lifespan is not equal healthspan

Mar 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

Svevlad says: Show Comment March 13, 2020 at 12:19 pm GMT 200 Words But would a drop in life expectancy be a bad thing?

Like the man on viriculture.com used to say, healthy life =/= long life. We work towards extending one's lifespan, yet we don't extend their "health span". We just extend the period when one is already falling apart. The older you are, the more meds you need, the more healthcare you need etc etc.

So the longer the lifespan the bigger the load on healthcare and pension funds.

The main problem is, that our economic and cultural systems are at this point, 90% biologically incompatible with us. A good chunk of our lives we study (especially so when you study something like medicine, i believe at this point it's for genuine masochists). By the time you get to a nice position in your career you're probably going to be older than 35. For good birth rates etc that's unnaceptable.

So, the solution is to extend the "health-span". Preferably, you need to slow aging down at least by 10, maybe even 15 years, while keeping the overall lifespan the same. The current way is simply unsustainable

[Mar 13, 2020] Like all the other viruses that have floated around over the years be this one is being hyped up

Mar 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

Calculator , says: Show Comment March 13, 2020 at 11:55 am GMT

@Kratoklastes ...Like all the other viruses that have floated around over the years be this one is being hyped up.

The hype works precisely because of your remark #3 but it will die a natural death after everyone makes their money and the public gets bored.

I mean if just 1B people get a shot costing $50 that is a whole lot of Yuan. Store owners also appear to be sneaking that extra markup on soaps and disinfectants and toilet paper. Y2K also comes to mind and I am sure that Aids /HIV continues to kill more people annually than this virus ever will. In the meantime I caution all nose pickers to leave those buggers alone and not report any unusually large specimens. It will only skew the statistics and increase the panic.

[Mar 13, 2020] MSM dirty dange around human mortality

Mar 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

utu , says: Show Comment March 13, 2020 at 6:30 am GMT

@Anonymous (n)
60,000 people die every month in Italy. Many of them old. Now we have 1,000 reported dead due to the Covid-19. Most of them old. Many of them would have died anyway from some cold or flu that would further aggravate their poor state of health. This year Covid-19 got there first.

[Mar 13, 2020] Steve Bannon is just using inflammatory language throughout, to diss the CCP

Mar 13, 2020 | thesaker.is

Analyst on March 12, 2020 , · at 11:23 pm EST/EDT

Dear Saker: I am a little confused here.

You request that opinions should be limited to fact based
but in the next sentence you state "The truth is that NONE OF US really knows for a fact what this virus can do, we are all guessing."

well .whether fact based or speculative here are two alternate views>

"My own view on the Coronavirus situation, is that I trust the Chinese Government to be doing all it can possibly do, to contain the epidemic.

There are a lot of people there, living in close proximity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlF0LcQO9Tg

In that context, Steve Bannon is just using inflammatory language throughout, to diss the CCP

I can well understand why the CCP will not allow any US personel anywhere near the patients, nor allow them to have access to any of the medical data.

If Bannon is implying that the CCP has something to hide, then the CCP also has its own suspicions as to how this virus suddenly appeared

A lot of stuff has in the past come out of Livermore Labs and in the UK from Porton Down, which "should not" be released I know of southern coastal cities in the UK being sprayed with viruses from the air in the 1950s – a deliberate programme supported by the UK government

The CCP will also be fully aware of British activities within Syria and then there is the Skripal incident, a home-grown Boris the Buffoon manufactured crisis

If one looks at UK and US official government behaviour towards Hong Kong, then one can easily surmise that there are attempts to find other means to destabilise China

Just saying "

Another view >

"There was an interesting item on Facebook a few days back, claiming to be written by a Chinese military official, a staunch supporter of the communist party and the government, but a man 'with a conscience.'

He claimed the virus was manufactured with a view to causing reduction of higher brain functions (i.e. lowering the IQ) and inducing docility into those who are protesting in Hong Kong.

It was first tested, according to his narrative, more discreetly on rounded-up Uighurs in the prison camps, well away from anywhere likely to be observed, and everyone who was exposed, died. There was a massive clean-up and cover-up operation

Realising it needed more work if it was to be deployed in HK, they did some further modifications and had intended to do a new test in Hubei, but this was pre-empted by a shoot-out near the meat market that has been mooted as the source of the outbreak. Someone, I'm not sure now who he reckoned it was, attempted to 'kidnap the bio weapon in order to grab the technology it represented, but the consignment was hit by a bullet and the virus escaped. Those in charge ensured there were no survivors as witnesses in that area.

He further claimed that the mortality rate is actually 100% but that it has been put about that it is only 2% – this underplaying being with the complicity of the USA, Russia and the UK and presumably the EU, in order to forestall mass panic. He claimed only those wearing hazmat suits stand any chance, and that the pandemic will claim the lives of all but top officials who have recourse to protective measures. He said that the actual symptoms in the final stages are up to five days of agonising pain with internal organs haemorrhaging in a similar way to Ebola.

Of course, the article was anonymously written, as he said his life and that of his family would be forfeit if he were to be identified. Which makes it a narrative that is easy to fake but impossible to completely refute. "

[Mar 13, 2020] I do not think the corona virus outbreak was deliberate. The first thing that people crafty enough to unleash this sort of thing would think of is blowback

Mar 13, 2020 | thesaker.is

Patricia Ormsby on March 12, 2020 , · at 8:04 pm EST/EDT

Like the Saker, I do not think the corona virus outbreak was deliberate. The first thing that people crafty enough to unleash this sort of thing would think of is blowback.

Perhaps the depopulationists–but this is a really ineffective way of going about it.

I do think, however, that it arose in a "laboratory" of tens of millions of human subjects all undergoing an enormous experiment. Please humor me a moment.

If there were a deliberate element in all of this, it would be the hype and rush be the first to implement an untested technology about which dire warnings were already being sounded.

... ... ...

AndyT on March 12, 2020 , · at 10:19 pm EST/EDT
Virologists and epidemiologists have yet to discount that the coronavirus was a bio attack. This does NOT mean that it was an attack, merely that the possibility of a bio attack cannot be discounted. While there remains a lot of circumstantial and anecdotal "evidence" that this was an economic attack perpetrated by America against China, this does NOT prove conclusively that such an attack took place, nor does it prove that such an attack did not take place. There is an abstract submitted to ChinaXIV (a research website) that, although not yet peer reviewed, suggests that the virus dd NOT originate at the Wuhan Seafood Market and that it was introduced:

http://www.chinaxiv.org/abs/202002.00033

Any reference as to who introduced the coronavirus to the market is pure speculation at this juncture, although the circumstantial and anecdotal evidence could be construed as overwhelming against the US considering the timing, geographic location and proximity to the Wuhan Seafood Market of the US soldiers present for the International Military Games.

I am not a virologist or epidemiologist (I am an engineer), however it is not completely out of the realms of possibility for a virus to make the transition from animal to human host; and the conditions in which animals are kept in Wuhan and surrounding areas is certainly not of the same standard as the West – both from the perspective of hygiene and humanitarian considerations. Another abstract that does looks into the origins of the virus states:

"The genomic features described here may in part explain the infectiousness and transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 in humans. Although genomic evidence does not support the idea that SARS-CoV-2 is a laboratory construct, it is currently impossible to prove or disprove the other theories of its origin described here, and it is unclear whether future data will help resolve this issue. Identifying the immediate non-human animal source and obtaining virus sequences from it would be the most definitive way of revealing virus origins."

http://virological.org/t/the-proximal-origin-of-sars-cov-2/398

Much mention has been made of the corona-virus in question (COVID-19) binding to the ACE-2 receptors found in the lungs and heart – most particularly in those of Asian heritage. It would not be outside the realms of science for this to be a logical target for the virus, given its geographic location, but the hypothesis of it being engineered to target a specific racial genotype is also not outside the realms of possibility.

"Our findings indicated that no direct evidence was identified genetically supporting the existence of coronavirus S-protein binding-resistant ACE2 mutants in different populations (Fig. 1a). The data of variant distribution and AFs may contribute to the further investigations of ACE2, including its roles in acute lung injury and lung function12. The East Asian populations have much higher AFs in the eQTL variants associated with higher ACE2 expression in tissues (Fig. 1c), which may suggest different susceptibility or response to 2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2 from different populations under the similar conditions."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-0147-1

I agree with Andrei's analysis that a bio-weapon is both unwieldy and difficult to control when used in a purely military application, but when used as an economic weapon, the possibility is mentioned in the odious The Project for a New American Century's (PNAC) report titled "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century."

"advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool."

This does not prove that the tragedy unfolding out of Wuhan was a bio-weapon, but certainly demonstrates the possibility of intent. At this juncture, neither side of the argument can provide any proof, so the the hypothesis remains pure speculation. The Chinese government is not directly accusing the US of a bio attack, but it is extremely worrying that both the Russian and Chinese governments remain highly suspicious.

[Mar 13, 2020] "CORONAVIRUSES HAVE ALWAYS INFECTED HUMANS, PANIC IS UNWARRANTED"

the MSM news cycle is clearly a tool for disinformation and misdirection – propaganda is what has been engineered
Mar 13, 2020 | thesaker.is

Jorge L Borges on March 12, 2020 , · at 2:45 pm EST/EDT

"CORONAVIRUSES HAVE ALWAYS INFECTED HUMANS, PANIC IS UNWARRANTED"
Posted by agencycyta | Mar 9, 2020 | Science , Featured , Health | 0 |

"Coronaviruses have always infected humans, panic is unwarranted"
According to an Argentine virologist in France, Pablo Goldschmidt, there is no evidence to indicate that the fatality or morbidity of COVID-19 is superior to that caused by influenza viruses or the common cold.

(CyTA-Leloir Foundation Agency) -. For the virologist and infectious disease specialist Pablo Goldschmidt, the panic surrounding the strain of coronavirus identified in China (COVID-19) is as unwarranted as the one created in 2003 with severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). ) or in 2009 with the influenza A (H1N1) virus.

"The ill-founded opinions expressed by international experts, replicated by the media and social networks repeat the unnecessary panic that we have previously experienced. The coronavirus identified in China in 2019 causes neither more nor less than a strong cold or flu, with no difference until today with the cold or flu as we know it, "says Professor Goldschmidt, also a biochemist, pharmacist and psychologist graduated from the UBA, volunteer for the World Health Organization (WHO), former praticien hospitalier of the public hospitals in Paris and author of the book "People and microbes, invisible beings with whom we live and make us sick" (2019).

The Argentine specialist lives more than four decades in Europe. At the Faculty of Medicine of the hospital center de la Pitié-Salpetrière in Paris, he obtained diplomas in pharmacokinetics, clinical pharmacology, neuro-psychopharmacology and pharmacology of antimicrobials. At the Université Pierre et Marie Curie Paris VI he received a doctorate in molecular pharmacology. The theoretical and practical training of the Paris Curie and Pasteur Institutes also concluded with degrees in fundamental virology and molecular biology. As a volunteer at the WHO, he integrates humanitarian missions in Guinea Conakry, Bissau, Pakistan, Ukraine, Cameroon, Mali and the Chad border with Nigeria. And it aspires to obtain from the Argentine State a mandate to exercise the right to speak before the international organization.

In dialogue with the CyTA-Leloir Agency, Goldschmidt expresses its tension in the face of the global terror generated by the quality of information that is disseminated about the new coronavirus and considers it necessary that the data that is propagated be placed in the geographical and social context. "You can't create hysteria on the entire planet," he says.

-Which viruses are considered responsible for respiratory diseases?

Viral respiratory conditions are numerous and are caused by several viral families and species, among which the respiratory syncytial virus (especially in infants), influenza (influenza), human metapneumoviruses, adenoviruses, rhinoviruses, and several coronaviruses, already described years ago. It is striking that earlier this year global health alerts have been triggered as a result of infections by a coronavirus detected in China, COVID-19, knowing that each year there are 3 million newborns who die in the world of pneumonia and 50,000 adults in the United States for the same cause, without alarms being issued.

– The fact that it is transmitted by saliva or by cough increased the fear of the population?

Many microorganisms are transmitted by this route in humans. The cold, transmitted by saliva and cough, is caused by more than 150 rhinoviruses. Ten million people were infected by saliva and cough with the tuberculosis agent in 2018, of which 1 million were children and 205 thousand died. The same happened with bacterial meningitis, transmitted by saliva, which affected more than a million people in a year. Measles is also transmitted by saliva, hence the urgency to protect the population with vaccines.

-You. Do you consider the international alerts launched due to the coronavirus to be exaggerated?

Our planet is the victim of a new sociological phenomenon, scientific-media harassment, triggered by experts only on the basis of laboratory molecular diagnostic analysis results. Communiqués issued from China and Geneva were replicated, without being confronted from a critical point of view and, above all, without stressing that coronaviruses have always infected humans and always caused diarrhea and what people call a banal cold or common cold. Absurd forecasts were extrapolated, as in 2009 with the H1N1 influenza virus.

And the risk of complications?

A cold can present as a benign, self-limiting disease; but it is known that all respiratory diseases, however banal they may be considered, can severely affect the frailized people, people with cardiocirculatory problems over 65 years, people with metabolic disorders, immunosuppressed, transplanted and, above all , to poorly fed people without shelter, and to those who do not have access to competent health teams that provide them with effective medicines. This situation, clearly revealed for so many other diseases, is repeated in all infections and COVID-19 is no exception.

Why does each individual become infected and react differently to viral infections?

The first step for a virus to infect a person depends on the virus's ability to recognize "locks" or proteins on the surface of cells in certain organs, not all. Once it attaches to its lock, it can penetrate the cell and put all the cellular machinery of the infected subject at its service to replicate itself. It has been determined that there are individuals with many "locks", others with few and others with easier "locks" to open, which is determined by the genes. On the other hand, there is a defensive apparatus of proteins encoded in DNA that is known by the name of "reactoma". In short, all humans are unique living beings against microbial aggression and against the malignant transformations of our tissues. Therefore, in certain individuals,

Is the coronavirus detected in China a new agent?

Those who launched the international alerts did not take into account data that shows whether this virus or other similar viruses circulated in previous years. Or if people who were already exposed to other coronavirus variants have partial or total protection against the 2019 strain.

-Why do you not accept the extrapolation from one country to the other of the forecasts issued by international agencies?

First, it is appropriate to compare the mortality and morbidity data with the number of positive cases (those confirmed by the laboratory in relation to the number of severe cases or the number of deceased persons). The first thing that emerges from the data, beyond the biological criteria referring to the individual capacity to get sick and defend against viral aggression, are doubts regarding the figures, if it is not considered that the affected people did or did not have access to competent and equipped health, and if they received timely treatments with adequate and bioequivalent drugs.

– Would these factors contribute to explain the differences in mortality and morbidity between countries?

If there is no biological justification for individual predisposition, the difference could be due to the quality of the medical institutions, the reasons that caused the time to pass before the affected people go to health centers, or the quality of the training of medical centers and the availability of resources to treat acute respiratory diseases. We must impose moderation and use concrete data. There is no evidence to show that the 2019 coronavirus is more lethal than respiratory adenoviruses, influenza viruses, coronaviruses from previous years, or rhinoviruses responsible for the common cold.

[Mar 12, 2020] In Rochester, NY the national guard will help cleaning efforts and deliver food in the designated "containment area" in a one-mile (1.6 km) radius around the area where the contagion appears to have originated, until the lockdown is lifted on March 25

This is odd, the John Hopkin's Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases dashboard no longer shows cases at the U.S. city level, only state level summaries. Are they no longer capable of collecting data at the city level?
Mar 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org
Likklemore , Mar 11 2020 0:34 utc | 56
Adding to his woes, Erdo will now turn his focus to COVID-19 as Turkey reported its first case.

Cases listed by countries at interactive LINK

In US, national guards to enforce the coronavirus quarantine in New Rochelle, NY

"The troops will help clean and deliver food in the designated "containment area" in a one-mile (1.6 km) radius around the area where the contagion appears to have originated, until the lockdown is lifted on March 25."

[Mar 12, 2020] Joe Rogan interview today with Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology

Mar 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

james , Mar 11 2020 3:16 utc | 71

joe rogan interview today with Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology from today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

[Mar 12, 2020] Korean government decided to designate call centers, clubs, gyms and other establishments frequented by large numbers of people as high-risk areas and mobilize more resources to quarantine them

Mar 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

vk , Mar 11 2020 11:35 utc | 93

More circumstancial evidence South Korea is failing to contain the virus:

Gov't scrambles to contain spread of virus at 'crowded' places

As part of such efforts, the government decided to designate call centers, clubs, gyms and other establishments frequented by large numbers of people as high-risk areas and mobilize more resources to quarantine them.

The move comes after an alarming new mass infection of the novel coronavirus was reported at the call center in Guro, at a time when reports of new cases in Daegu, the southeastern city at the center of the nation's COVID-19 outbreak, have been decreasing in recent days.

My bet is that, since the South Korean government can't do preventive quarantine of private business (because of the obvious fact it is a capitalist society), they are chasing the virus where it bursts, quarantining the place where it is already given is a cluster. That will make the South Korean map look like Swiss cheese - at best.

[Mar 12, 2020] I know of a Miami emergency room tech who just finished a 72 hour shift, was given a 12 hour break who says they are overwhelmed and getting burned out.

Mar 12, 2020 | turcopolier.typepad.com

BillWade , 11 March 2020 at 01:09 PM

Might not it be prudent to take all personnel currently in basic training from all branches and give them basic medic training and oxygen ventilator training and have them ready to deploy where ever needed. The Lombard region of Italy is already considering lowering the triage age from 70 to 60.

I know of a Miami emergency room tech who just finished a 72 hour shift, was given a 12 hour break who says they are overwhelmed and getting burned out.

[Mar 12, 2020] New Jersey Confirms Community Spread Of Covid-19; Italy Closes All Stores Except Groceries Pharmacies

Mar 12, 2020 | www.zerohedge.com

Summary:

* * *

Update (1650ET): Italy has confirmed that it will order all stores in the country that sell items other than medicine and food to close. Factories can continue working, but all restaurants and bars must close as well. The prime minister stressed that there is "no need for a run on supermarkets."

Watch Conte's address live:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/cV4eDHkGA54

* * *

Update (1635ET): NJ Governor and former Goldmanite Phil Murphy just announced 8 more cases in the state, bringing its total to 23. The state has also confirmed its first case of "community spread".

UPDATE: We now have 8 more presumptive positive cases of #COVID19 in New Jersey.
• 3 female cases, 5 male cases
• 4 cases from Bergen County, 2 cases from Middlesex County, and 2 cases from Monmouth County
• Range in age from 17- to 66-years-old

-- Governor Phil Murphy (@GovMurphy) March 11, 2020

Current #COVID19 statewide stats:
• Presumptive Positive Tests: 23
• Negative Tests: 57
• Tests in Process: 20
• Persons Under Investigation: 37
• Deaths: 1

For regular updates: https://t.co/UyohzX5yGk

-- Governor Phil Murphy (@GovMurphy) March 11, 2020

We've received $14 million in federal grants from @CDCgov to assist in our ongoing efforts to contain the spread of #COVID19 . We're working around the clock with our local, state, and federal partners to protect the health of New Jerseyans.

-- Governor Phil Murphy (@GovMurphy) March 11, 2020

Watch the rest of the press conference below courtesy of 10 Philly:

[Mar 12, 2020] I'm not trying to minimise the impact, but my feeling is that it has more to do with the falling rate of profit than the number of sick people.

Mar 12, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Barovsky , Mar 11 2020 17:57 utc | 32

b, time for a cooler head. Okay, as the Russian virologist said, a new virus is a 'meeting of strangers', so we have to get to 'know' each other first and this takes time. So, just as we got to 'know' the various flu varieties and built immunities to them, so too the virus gets to 'know' us and undergoes its mutations. After all, if it kills all its hosts, it kills itself.

The thing about 'bat' flu is that it seems to kill the old and the sick but leaves the majority with well, flu and I'm one of those old folk (I'm almost 75 and with a bunch of metal tubes in my heart but with a strong immune system, so wish me luck).

I think you're overreacting somewhat.

Is it because it's only the so-called developed nations that have a high preponderance of older people that we're seeing this panic, or is because capitalism was on the verge of meltdown anyway?

My feeling is that the barbarians have no compunction in sacrificing the old and sick. Social Darwinism Rules OK! And don't forget, the wealthy are mostly old too!!

I'm not trying to minimise the impact, but my feeling is that it has more to do with the falling rate of profit than the number of sick people.

Bruce Aylward, Deputy DG of WHO, who is interviewed in this article makes eminent sense but his views have been universally ignored in the West (he spent time in China in February), I more than suspect because of the West's racist anti-Chinese attitudes, else why ignore virtually all of his recommendations?

[Mar 12, 2020] Korean measures: the USA should follow the trail, not to try reinvent the bicycle

Mar 12, 2020 | www.unz.com

eugyppius , says: Show Comment March 12, 2020 at 1:07 pm GMT

... Massive testing in south Korea, 20k people a day, yields a lot of people in the denominator who would count as healthy everywhere else. We don't get to have a "South Korean" death rate unless we have south korean testing. With Euro testing we have to live with a different Euro death rate. Another question would how many "European" or "American" cases (i.e., cases in that are symptomatic enough to get officially recorded in Europe or America) does south korea have? Then we could productively compare death rates.

Also, south korea is doing a lot compared to the west outside Italy:

In south korea right now, mobile testing centers are dispatched to places with new positive results and widespread testing occurs, followed by isolation of positive cases.

They have closed schools. Universities throughout the country postponed the start of the semester when only 31 official cases existed. Major buildings have thermal imaging at their entrances. As many people as possible in public are wearing masks.

To all of that comes the fact that the South Korea outbreak was idiosyncratic, over half of all cases emerging from Patient 31 associated with the Shincheonji church in a single city, Daegu, which made containment easier.

Let's keep an eye on Germany since they're essentially doing nothing

Aside from testing, and it is unclear how widespread this is though we are told it is very awesome and comprehensive and the absolute best. 2,120 cases right now in the earliest stages of the pandemic.

[Mar 11, 2020] Neoliberal USA in some respect looks like Nigeria with nukes

Truth be told this is a pretty complex test that requires extraction of RNA
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allan , March 11, 2020 at 7:50 am

U.S. coronavirus testing threatened by shortage of critical lab materials [Politico]

A looming shortage in lab materials is threatening to delay coronavirus test results and cause officials to undercount the number of Americans with the virus.

CDC Director Robert Redfield told POLITICO on Tuesday that he is not confident that U.S. labs have an adequate stock of the supplies used to extract genetic material from any virus in a patient's sample -- a critical step in coronavirus testing.

"The availability of those reagents is obviously being looked at," he said, referring to the chemicals used for preparing samples. "I'm confident of the actual test that we have, but as people begin to operationalize the test, they realize there's other things they need to do the test."

The growing scarcity of these "RNA extraction" kits is the latest trouble for U.S. labs, which have struggled to implement widespread coronavirus testing in the seven weeks since the country diagnosed its first case.

Nigeria with nukes.

[Mar 11, 2020] Italy take drastic measures to slow down the spread of the virus

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Mina , Mar 11 2020 21:44 utc | 105

From the cnn live

"Italy will close all restaurants, bars and shops across the country in an effort to curb the spread of coronavirus, Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte announced on Wednesday.

Only pharmacies and supermarkets will be allowed to remain open, Conte added.

Restaurants will be allowed to be operational for food deliveries, but companies will be required to implement remote working for all jobs, except those that require physical presence, Conte added."

This sounds that they are getting advice from the Chinese and stopped waiting for the EU 'recommendations'. Next step is that the Italian gov need to offer some help to these restaurants so that the people working there and those doing the deliveries get correctly paid and that they and what they carry is clean.

[Mar 11, 2020] Joe Rogan interview today with Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... One notable prediction: Osterholm lauds the Chinese for successfully working to control the outbreak -- but warns another wave of infection will follow upon workplaces and schools and shops reopening as the society begins returning to normal. ..."
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Emily Dickinson , Mar 11 2020 20:52 utc | 74

james , Mar 11 2020 3:16 utc | 71

joe rogan interview today with Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology from today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

Joe Rogan had an interesting interview with epidemiologist Michael Osterholm yesterday. Lots of information about COVID-19.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

One notable prediction: Osterholm lauds the Chinese for successfully working to control the outbreak -- but warns another wave of infection will follow upon workplaces and schools and shops reopening as the society begins returning to normal.

[Mar 11, 2020] In Rochester, NY the national guard will help cleaning efforts and deliver food in the designated "containment area" in a one-mile (1.6 km) radius around the area where the contagion appears to have originated, until the lockdown is lifted on March 25

This is odd, the John Hopkin's Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases dashboard no longer shows cases at the U.S. city level, only state level summaries. Are they no longer capable of collecting data at the city level?
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Likklemore , Mar 11 2020 0:34 utc | 56
Adding to his woes, Erdo will now turn his focus to COVID-19 as Turkey reported its first case.

Cases listed by countries at interactive LINK

In US, national guards to enforce the coronavirus quarantine in New Rochelle, NY

"The troops will help clean and deliver food in the designated "containment area" in a one-mile (1.6 km) radius around the area where the contagion appears to have originated, until the lockdown is lifted on March 25."

[Mar 11, 2020] Friday prayers as a factor in Italian virus outbreak. The same can happen in the USA

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JB , Mar 10 2020 20:39 utc | 21

I find it puzzling that the new virus has spread all over Iran very quickly, whereas in other countries it is more localised, including in China. It is also curious that it has infected by far more of its lawmakers and government officials than elsewhere. Is there a reasonable, rational explanation?

karlof1 , Mar 10 2020 21:00 utc | 29

JB @21--

Friday prayers that are attended by the vast majority of the populous combined with lack of aggressiveness at containment are my guesses.

... ... ...

[Mar 11, 2020] WHO has officially declared COVID 19 a pandemic.

Notable quotes:
"... As I said on Monday, just looking at the number of COVID19 cases and the number of countries affected does not tell the full story. Of the 118,000 COVID19 cases reported globally in 114 countries, more than 90 percent of cases are in just four countries, and two of those have significantly declining epidemics. 81 countries have not reported any COVID19 cases, and 57 countries have reported 10 cases or less. ..."
"... "We’re in this together, to do the right things with calm and protect the citizens of the world. It’s doable" ..."
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JJackson , 11 March 2020 at 02:52 PM

Today's WHO press briefing was excellent (link below). The questions being asked by journalists have improved significantly over the last few weeks which has given the WHO team an opportunity to explain important points.

Today they looked at the situation in Iran, Korea, Italy and the sub Saharan Africa region. They also have officially declared a Pandemic.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/watch-live-who-holds-press-conference-on-the-coronavirus-outbreak.html?&qsearchterm=Watch:%20World%20Health%20Organization

Full Tedros Transcript:

In the past two weeks, the number of cases of #COVID19 outside 🇨🇳 has increased 13-fold & the number of affected countries has tripled.

There are now more than 118,000 cases in 114 countries, & 4,291 people have lost their lives.

Thousands more are fighting for their lives in hospitals.

In the days and weeks ahead, we expect to see the number of #COVID19 cases, the number of deaths, and the number of affected countries climb even higher

WHO has been assessing this outbreak around the clock and we are deeply concerned both by the alarming levels of spread and severity, and by the alarming levels of inaction

We have therefore made the assessment that #COVID19 can be characterized as a pandemic

Pandemic is not a word to use lightly or carelessly. It is a word that, if misused, can cause unreasonable fear, or unjustified acceptance that the fight is over, leading to unnecessary suffering and death

Describing the situation as a pandemic does not change WHO’s assessment of the threat posed by this coronavirus. It doesn’t change what WHO is doing, and it doesn’t change what countries should do"

We have never before seen a pandemic sparked by a coronavirus. And we have never before seen a pandemic that can be controlled at the same time.

WHO has been in full response mode since we were notified of the first cases.

We have called every day for countries to take urgent and aggressive action.

We have rung the alarm bell loud and clear

As I said on Monday, just looking at the number of COVID19 cases and the number of countries affected does not tell the full story. Of the 118,000 COVID19 cases reported globally in 114 countries, more than 90 percent of cases are in just four countries, and two of those have significantly declining epidemics. 81 countries have not reported any COVID19 cases, and 57 countries have reported 10 cases or less.

We cannot say this loudly enough, or clearly enough, or often enough: all countries can still change the course of this pandemic"

If countries detect, test, treat, isolate, trace, and mobilize their people in the response, those with a handful of COVID19 cases can prevent those cases becoming clusters, and those clusters becoming community transmission

Even those countries with community transmission or large clusters can turn the tide on this coronavirus.

Several countries have demonstrated that this virus can be suppressed and controlled.

The challenge for many countries who are now dealing with large COVID19 clusters or community transmission is not whether they can do the same – it’s whether they will.

Some countries are struggling with a lack of capacity. Some countries are struggling with a lack of resources. Some countries are struggling with a lack of resolve.

We are grateful for the measures being taken in Iran, Italy and South Korea to slow the virus and control their COVID19 epidemics.

We know that these measures are taking a heavy toll on societies and economies, just as they did in China.

All countries must strike a fine balance between protecting health, minimizing economic & social disruption & respecting human rights

WHO’s mandate is public health. But we’re working with many partners across all sectors to mitigate the social and economic consequences of this COVID19 pandemic

This is not just a public health crisis, it is a crisis that will touch every sector – so every sector and every individual must be involved in the fight

I have said from the beginning that countries must take a whole-of-government, whole-of-society approach, built around a comprehensive strategy to prevent infections, save lives and minimize impact

Let me summarize it in 4 key areas.

  1. Prepare and be ready.
  2. Detect, protect and treat.
  3. Reduce transmission.
  4. Innovate and learn"

I remind all countries that we are calling on you to (1):

  • activate & scale up your emergency response mechanisms
  • communicate with your people about the risks & how they can protect themselves
  • find, isolate, test & treat every #COVID19 case & trace every contact"

I remind all countries that we are calling on you to (2):

  • ready your hospitals
  • protect and train your #healthworkers
  • let’s all look out for each other"

There’s been so much attention on one word.

Let me give you some other words that matter much more, & that are much more actionable:

Prevention. Preparedness. Public health. Political leadership.

And most of all, People"

"We’re in this together, to do the right things with calm and protect the citizens of the world. It’s doable"

And just like that - $425 million dollars worth of pandemic bonds all got trggered.

[Mar 11, 2020] USA is tracking Italy infection growth curve pretty well so far

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steve , 11 March 2020 at 02:58 PM

There have been a number of graphs out today looking at the rate of Covid infections. It is exponential so far and appears to be tracking Italy's experience pretty well. If we continue at this same rate we would reach the level at which other countries closed schools and had mass transportation shutdowns in one or two weeks. Shutting down schools in particular will be a tough decision. Kids seem to mostly be spared, but they may be disease vectors. OTOH if they are shutdown a lot of health care workers will need to stay home. Near as I can tell I would lose 10% or so of my staff and more on an intermittent basis.

http://earlywarn.blogspot.com/2020/03/covid-19-update.html

[Mar 11, 2020] Korean government decided to designate call centers, clubs, gyms and other establishments frequented by large numbers of people as high-risk areas and mobilize more resources to quarantine them

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vk , Mar 11 2020 11:35 utc | 93

More circumstancial evidence South Korea is failing to contain the virus:

Gov't scrambles to contain spread of virus at 'crowded' places

As part of such efforts, the government decided to designate call centers, clubs, gyms and other establishments frequented by large numbers of people as high-risk areas and mobilize more resources to quarantine them.

The move comes after an alarming new mass infection of the novel coronavirus was reported at the call center in Guro, at a time when reports of new cases in Daegu, the southeastern city at the center of the nation's COVID-19 outbreak, have been decreasing in recent days.

My bet is that, since the South Korean government can't do preventive quarantine of private business (because of the obvious fact it is a capitalist society), they are chasing the virus where it bursts, quarantining the place where it is already given is a cluster. That will make the South Korean map look like Swiss cheese - at best.

[Mar 11, 2020] Coronavirus Epidemic Update 34 US Cases Surge, Chloroquine Zinc Treatment Combo, Italy Lockdown

Mar 10, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update 34 with pulmonologist & critical care specialist Roger Seheult, MD of https://www.MedCram.com

[Mar 10, 2020] How US counts the sick when CDC test kits are unreliable amd by-and-large unavailble?

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Tom_LX , Mar 9 2020 19:35 utc | 23

Posted by: charliechan | Mar 9 2020 19:30 utc | 20

Charli Chan ask right question.

charlie cha wonders how US counts the sick when CDC test kits are unreliable.

and unavailable in quantities necessary !!!!

[Mar 10, 2020] The USA is particularly poorly set up to cope with COVID-19 epidemics, thanks to our fragmented public health system and overpriced, privatized and less than comprehensive health care. That bad situation is made worse by the CDC being short on resources and hamstrung further by the Trump Administration's PR imperatives

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New Wafer Army , March 9, 2020 at 5:29 am

The glue appears at the start of the article:

"the US is particularly poorly set up to cope, thanks to our fragmented public health system and overpriced, privatized and less than comprehensive health care. That bad situation is made worse by the CDC being short on resources and hamstrung further by the Trump Administration's PR imperatives."

Basically, it is expected that Europe manages the crisis less badly.

Eustache de Saint Pierre , March 9, 2020 at 12:18 pm

It has been interesting watching Dr. John Campbell's growing realisation & some shock that everything is not well with the US healthcare system & he has received some abuse but also support from Americans for his growing criticism.

His listing as requested of his 2 degrees & Phd, never mind his long front line experience & his books I think shut some up for perhaps thinking that he was only a nurse, but perhaps he shouda gone to NakedCapitalism.

[Mar 10, 2020] It is the overwhelming of ICUs and the whole health care system that makes the new virus much more deadly

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b , 09 March 2020 at 06:18 PM

...It is the overwhelming of ICUs and the whole health care system that makes the new virus much more deadly than it would be without overwhelmed ICUs.

That is because it is a NEW virus and we do not have a basic immunity against it in our societies like we do have against common flu viruses.

For your age Pat, the death rate may be 5% with functional ICUs available. With overwhelmed ICUs the death rate for your age will be above 50%.

Consider that Lombardy, which is now overwhelmed, has now a death rate over all cases of 6% while South Korea, which effectively limited the spread through early testing and is not overwhelmed, limited the death rate to below 1%.

Stephanie , 09 March 2020 at 06:38 PM
...Read this article.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/03/is-the-coronavirus-really-more-dangerous-than-the-flu.html#more

Whatever you may think of the blogger, he is absolutely 100% correct here. Executive summary: if you extend the time period over which the epidemic occurs by testing and quarantining, you reduce the risk that your health care system will collapse, like it has in Italy. South Korea is the case where testing has prevented their health care system collapsing. Their health care system has not collapsed. Italy's has.

And now we will wait and see what happens in the U.S. Trump is betting his re-election on your being right.

[Mar 09, 2020] A Tale of Two Cities How Hong Kong Has Controlled its Coronavirus Outbreak, While New York City Scrambles

Notable quotes:
"... people who appear healthy can be asymptomatic so are therefore spreading the disease, which I believe that masks would help prevent. ..."
"... The problem is that there are no masks for everybody so these should be available for those who need them the most . This is a F*c*n*gly problematic issue and that is why there must be a campaign against massive mask usage. ..."
"... A healthy mucosal epithelium contains non-specific barriers to virus and other pathogens including our normal microbiota, enzymes and various types of fibers acting as a physico-chemical barrier for virus entry. In winter, these barriers are less efficient. ..."
"... The tide has now gone out, and has revealed that the US is swimming naked. ..."
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By Jerri-Lynn Scofield, who has worked as a securities lawyer and a derivatives trader. She is currently writing a book about textile artisans.

I was chatting on Facebook the other day about the topic de jour – protecting friends, family, and myself from coronavirus – with Dr. Sarah Borwein, an old friend and travel buddy from my Oxford days. Sarah's a Canadian- trained doctor who has practiced family medicine for more than 15 years in Hong Kong. She co-founded the Central Health Group.

I recently attended Sarah's wedding in that city in early January – and got out just in time to avoid some of the more draconian travel restrictions that have since been imposed as a result of the outbreak of the #COVID-19 coronavirus.. At least for now. And just before Hong Kong imposed drastic restrictions that have allowed it to weather the coronavirus crisis while recording only three deaths, so far.

She has an extensive professional history of dealing with infectious diseases in Asia. Prior to commencing her practice in Hong Kong, she successfully ran the Infection Control program for the only expatriate hospital in Beijing during the SARS period, also serving as liaison with the World Health Organization. For a fuller account of her career and her thoughts on the current crisis, see this interview in AD MediLink, Exclusive Interview on COVID-19 with SARS Veteran Dr. Sarah Borwein .

I thought readers might be interested in some of the things Hong Kong is doing to combat the virus.

Partial Lockdown

The city has been in partial lockdown from the middle of January, with schools and universities, shut, employees encouraged to work from home, sports facilities and museums closed down, and people told to avoid crowds according to the Financial Times, Hong Kong's coronavirus response leads to sharp drop in flu cases . Hong Kong residents have accepted these restrictions, since:

Hongkongers are particularly compliant with public health measures because the 2002-2003 Sars outbreak, which claimed almost 300 lives in the territory, is still fresh in many people's minds.

The partial lockdown is neither easy nor cost-free, but it largely seems to have controlled incidence of the disease, without paralysing Hong Kong. The city is close to mainland China and has extensive economic and other ties. But so far, it has recorded only three deaths, according to the South China Morning Post, Coronavirus: Hong Kong records third death as five more cases confirmed, bringing total to 114 . And this for a city with population of roughly 7.5 million people.

Testing

There has been extensive texting for the coronavirus in Hong Kong – which is free. This allows public health austhories to track the spread of the disease, and see that victims get treated properly and promptly.

This record stands in contrast to the US, which has not yet managed to distribute tests widely – let alone, as far as I can see, determine who will pay for testing.

The disease seems to have taken hold in In U.S., with cases exceeding 500 and deaths so far recorded of 22, with 19 in Washington state, according to the New York Times, Cases of Coronavirus Cross 500, and Deaths Rise to 22 .

New York declared a state of emergency on Saturday. Governor Andrew Cuomo has complained about the lack of testing kits (see Coronavirus in N.Y.: Cuomo Attacks C.D.C. Over Delays in Testing ).

The inability to test means that it's not possible to track the progress of the disease properly, is as to determine from where a patient may have caught it. Nationwide in the US, a fraction of people who are symptomatic or who may have been exposed to the virus have been tested. Even India, which has so far managed to limit exposure of its population to foreign sources of infection, has tested many more people – and is doing comprehensive screening at its airports.

Which makes a lot of sense, as foreigners – tourists – are principal source of the infection, Others are Indians returning from foreign climes, carrying with them the disease. So far, India has reported 39 cases, a large cluster of which is an Italian tour group that visited Rajasthan. Five other recent cases are non-resident Indians (NRIs), who returned to India from Venice. We can only help as the temperature slowly rises as we approach the Indian summer, that increase in temperature slows spread of the virus (see Coronavirus cases rise to 39 as 5 found infected in Kerala ). Whether this will prove to be the case is as yet unknown, but as Sarah discussed in her MediLink interview:

It is true that some viruses that are spread by respiratory droplets, as COVID-19 is believed to, spread more easily when the air is cold and dry. In warm, humid conditions, they fall to the ground more easily and that makes transmission harder.

But there is still a lot we don't know about exactly how COVID-19 is spread and the effects climate may have on it. We do see it spreading in Singapore, which is warm and humid, so who knows?

I should mention that there have been dark musing about the NRIs returning to the state of Kerala from Venice – as they concealed their travel history and exposure. Kerala Health Minister K.K. Shailaja has said these victims will be treated, but that this type of behavior -- the deception – should be considered to be a crime.

Hong Kong has made it a criminal offence to lie to a health care provider about one's travel or exposure history, according to Sarah; I wonder whether the US will attempt to do the same?

There have been numerous complaints about the lack screening at US airports, including JFK, for people coming from Italy, which has locked down 16 million people in Lombardy and the north (see ' Absolutely Chilling': Reports From Frontlines of Coronavirus Outbreak Reveal Roadblocks to Testing, Lack of Safety Protocols .)

How to Protect Yourself From Infection

Most of us have heard the advice for avoiding infection. I'm going to repeat this advice. Those who know it all already, feel free to skip ahead. Those who've not seen such advice, pay attention.

Wash your hands, with soap, properly and frequently. I posted this video last week, but some readers may not have seen it:

WHO handwashing technique. Notice the attention to between the fingers, back of fingers, and nails:

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/IisgnbMfKvI

Hand sanitiser can be used as a stopgap until you can wash your hands, but the World Health Organization says that only those that are 60% alcohol killl the virus. And hand washing is an absolute must for hands that are visibly dirty.

Maintain social distance. Avoid crowds.

Cough or sneeze into a tissue, and dispose of it promptly and properly (I'm tossing mine into my toilet, and flushing them away.).

Pay attention to your overall health. Eat well. Including plenty of fruits and vegetables. Stay properly hydrated.

Get a 'flu shot if you haven't already. Although this won't protect you from coronavirus, 'flu can be a nasty disease in its own right, and catching it can land you in hospital or quarantine. Not to mention getting sick with the 'flu overburdens health systems when resources are needed elsewhere.

The procedures Hong Kong has put in place to control coronavirus have also led to a drastic decline in 'flu cases,. In fact, its winter influenza season has ended more than a month earlier than usual. 'Flu cases also dropped during the ARS crisis, according to the FT:

Data provided by the government's Centre for Health Protection show the incidence of infection with influenza had fallen to less than 1 per cent by the end of February, marking an end to the winter flu season, which normally extends to the end of March or into April.

"A similar pattern happened in 2003 during Sars. All respiratory infection diseases were down between March to September compared to 2002," said David Hui, a respiratory disease expert from the Chinese University of Hong Kong.

"Influenza spread is one of the markers [of the coronavirus containment] as the same principles of avoiding droplets and social contacts apply."

Ho Pak-leung, a leading microbiologist at the University of Hong Kong, said data showed the flu season had shortened from an average of 98.7 days to 34 days this year.

Use of Masks?

Masks are not very useful, and many places are out of stock anyway, but Sarah says these can prevent you from passing along any infection you might have to others. She says the advice to avoid masks outright is wrong. There is a place for them, they're just not a panacea, and in any case, if used improperly, they may actually increase your risk.

From her Medilink interview:

The shortage of masks has many people feeling quite anxious and unprotected. But masks are NOT very effective at preventing transmission of viral infections, particularly when worn by healthy people. They are by no means the most important measure you can take to protect your health. In fact, if you wear a mask incorrectly, touch or adjust it frequently, re-use it, or fail to wash your hands before putting it on and after taking it off, you may actually increase your risk.

Who should wear a mask:

– People who are sick, to prevent them spreading their viral droplets when they cough or sneeze.

– People caring for sick people at close quarters.

– In a health-care setting.

– People whose occupation requires them to have close contact with clients.

As it has become socially unacceptable in Hong Kong to NOT wear a mask, there may be situations in which you might choose to wear a mask simply to make other people feel comfortable. But in general, healthy people do not need to wear masks, except when they need to be in crowded places, or with possibly sick people.

Infection Control Protocol?

This to me was the most striking thing I learned from our conversation. I don't think anything like this infection control protocol is yet in place – certainly not throughout the US, nor even in high-risk areas. And it it should be.

From a text from Sarah:

We have triage at the door. People with high-risk travel history can't be seen, have to go directly to government hospital if symptomatic; or if just for routine care, wait 14 days after return (all of which must be healthy). Low risk people with symptoms we isolate immediately; they never enter the main clinic. And we wear PPE [i.e., personal protective equipment] to see them.

In Hong Kong, people are being told to get tested if you think you have been exposed, and/or are symptomatic. Anyone with a fever or respiratory symptoms is tested as a matter of course, upon recommendation of a doctor.

To be fair, I should mention that Hong Kong did not initially test so extensively. Sarah texted me:

Testing has been ramped up gradually. Initially they just added testing of all pneumonia patients, regarless of epidemiological link. The testing of all mildly symptomatic patients with no epidemiologic link is relatively new. A few weeks ago they started offering it in the public hospital A&E's and public outpatient clinics. Then last week they extended that to private sentinel clinics (of which we are one) and this week have extended it to all private clinics

But in the US, even if your doctor wants to test you, no testing kit may be available to conduct the test. This is simply insane, so many weeks, after the disease has taken root in so many places, and after the World Health Organization made accurate tests available months ago.

Hong Kong has also made it easier for patients to test themselves, without involving a health care provider. From a message from Sarah:

They also pioneered a test that patients could do themselves – ie they self-collect a "deep throat saliva" sample at home. That reduces risk of exposure to healthcare workers, as taking nasopharyngeal swabs is "aerosol generating"

So there is considerable scope for United States to learn from Hong Kong's experience and ramp up its testing – without appreciably increasing risk to its health care providers.

One thing talking to Sarah has driven home to me is how poor the comparative US infrastructure for dealing with such a disease is – although she didn't say so in so many words. These are my words, but I don't think she would dispute the conclusion.

Contrast that to Hong Kong. From her MediLink interview:

The situation is much less serious in Hong Kong than in mainland China, especially Wuhan and Hubei. We are quite exposed here, because of our close ties with the mainland, but we have a very strong public health system, good resources, and deep experience in managing epidemics. After SARS, Hong Kong set up the Centre for Health Protection (CHP) , which is our version of the CDC in the United States . When COVID-19 emerged, there was already an epidemic management plan in place that just had to be activated. The four best prepared places in Asia are probably Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand and South Korea.

Her MediLink interview is upbeat in some ways. Perhaps a better description would be measured. She points out that COVID-19 is less lethal than SARS. But because of that fact, it's much easier to spread:

COVID-19 and SARS do share some common features: they belong to the same family of viruses, they both seem to have jumped from animals to humans, they both originated in China and both can cause severe pneumonia.

But there are some important differences. SARS was more lethal than COVID-19, but less easily transmitted. It went straight for the lungs, and caused severe pneumonia which became transmissible only when patients were quite severely ill and usually by then in hospital. About 10% died .

COVID-19, on the other hand, seems to be more likely to replicate in the upper respiratory tract and it seems like individuals might produce a lot of virus when they are only mildly symptomatic. It's not known how many people with COVID-19 develop pneumonia, but of the ones who do, about 20% get severely ill and fewer than 2% die. Overall death rates are still not known for sure, but are probably less than 1%.

So COVID-19 is a lot less lethal than SARS, but harder to control because it spreads more easily and by people with milder symptoms. That's why, despite being considerably less likely to kill you than SARS was, COVID-19 has still in total killed more people in 6 weeks than SARS did in eight months.

We should recognise considerable advances in infection control have been made since that time. Alas, many countries seem not to have absorbed these lessons – including the United States. Or if they did, that knowledge has failed to translate into effective responses. From MediLink:

Another important difference is that medical science has advanced considerably in the 17 years since SARS. In 2003, it took months to identify the virus and develop a test. For COVID-19 that happened within a couple of weeks. That has made identifying patients a great deal easier. In addition, there are newer treatments and some vaccine prospects already in the works.

Epidemic control is something that has confounded the US political system. The relevant public health officials may know what needs to be done, they're not doing it. That may simply be, at least in part, because resources are simply not available. It's also due to the way we divide authority for such problems, with responsibility largelylodged at the state and local level. And the reflexive reliance on neoliberal, market-based solutions is also at fault. There are some things government is uniquely positioned to provide, but many are no longer capable of recognising that simple fact.

Over to Sarah's MediLink interview again:

The most important thing we learned from SARS was that infectious diseases do not respect borders or government edicts, and cannot be hidden. It requires international cooperation, transparency and sharing of information to control an epidemic.

We also learned the importance of providing good, balanced, reliable information to the public. In any epidemic, there is the outbreak of disease and then there is the epidemic of panic. And nowadays, there is also what the WHO has termed the Infodemic , the explosion of information about the epidemic. Some of it is good information, but some of it is rumour, myth, speculation and conspiracy theory, and those things feed the anxiety. It can be hard to sort out which information to believe, so it is important to choose trustworthy sources. Panic and misinformation make controlling the outbreak more difficult.

On a day when markets are melting down, and people are succumbing to panic,I can only say, keep calm. And to remind everyone: wash your hands!


Eustache de Saint Pierre , March 9, 2020 at 12:07 pm

The only query I would have with that is in reference to masks, is that people who appear healthy can be asymptomatic so are therefore spreading the disease, which I believe that masks would help prevent.

Ignacio , March 9, 2020 at 1:02 pm

The problem is that there are no masks for everybody so these should be available for those who need them the most . This is a F*c*n*gly problematic issue and that is why there must be a campaign against massive mask usage.

It has to be repeated 100 1000 1000000s times but we f*c**gl* avoid to understand this necessity.

Ignacio , March 9, 2020 at 12:56 pm

Today has been a day of overreaction indeed. I would point as an addition to Sarah remarks on disease spreading that regarding weather, temperature and humidity as important or even more important than virus air transmission or fomites-led transmission is our susceptibility to infection.

A healthy mucosal epithelium contains non-specific barriers to virus and other pathogens including our normal microbiota, enzymes and various types of fibers acting as a physico-chemical barrier for virus entry. In winter, these barriers are less efficient.

The same virus load will not have the same effect in winter or in summer in the nasopharyngeal tract. In this sense HK and NY are not comparable. Regarding the lessons of SARS epidemics, if one of them is to keep calm that is a goos lesson. If another lessons is to identify the sites that need stronger protection, that is another good lesson. A third good lesson would be awareness on precautions to be taken personally. Anyway given differences between SARS1 and 2 in virulence and epidemiology there are not many more lessons to learn. Again comparing Singapore or HK with NY in terms of potential fatalities is not spot on for weather reasons.

The main failure in Italy first, or in Spain now, has IMO been on lack of awareness. No overreaction is needed but good reaction would have made things better if the objective is to reduce fatalities and avoid HC services being overwhelmed. Focus on safety in hospitals is a must. Focusing on safety in residences for the elder is a second must (this has been noticed too late for many).

This evening I will have a discussion with my son that wants to go to a concert next saturday in a closed ambient. I think that the government will come to my rescue and forbid this class of events.

carl , March 9, 2020 at 1:09 pm

The tide has now gone out, and has revealed that the US is swimming naked.

[Mar 09, 2020] The Coronavirus Debacle by Daniel Larison

Right the major fiasco was with CDC testing kits. I do not see any other. Exaggerating the threat would only make hoarding panic that engult the USA worse. Of source Trump desire to protect stock market at any human or other cost was cruel and silly, but Trump is cruel and silly in many other areas as well.
Quarantine for retired persons might really help in areas with high number of infections.
Notable quotes:
"... For the last several weeks, we have seen the president and top administration officials presenting the public with misleading and outright false information in an effort to conceal the magnitude of the problem and the extent of their initial failures. The president has been unwilling to tell the public the truth about the situation because he evidently cares more about the short-term political implications than he does about protecting the public: ..."
Mar 07, 2020 | www.theamericanconservative.com

The AP reports on more of the Trump White House's bungling of the coronavirus response:

The White House overruled health officials who wanted to recommend that elderly and physically fragile Americans be advised not to fly on commercial airlines because of the new coronavirus, a federal official told The Associated Press.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention submitted the plan this week as a way of trying to control the virus, but White House officials ordered the air travel recommendation be removed, said the official who had direct knowledge of the plan. Trump administration officials have since suggested certain people should consider not traveling, but they have stopped short of the stronger guidance sought by the CDC.

There is no good reason for the White House to prevent this recommendation from being made public. This is another example of how the president and his top officials are trying to keep up the pretense that the outbreak is much less dangerous than it actually is, and in doing so they are helping to make the outbreak worse than it has to be.

For the last several weeks, we have seen the president and top administration officials presenting the public with misleading and outright false information in an effort to conceal the magnitude of the problem and the extent of their initial failures. The president has been unwilling to tell the public the truth about the situation because he evidently cares more about the short-term political implications than he does about protecting the public:

Even as the government's scientists and leading health experts raised the alarm early and pushed for aggressive action, they faced resistance and doubt at the White House -- especially from the president -- about spooking financial markets and inciting panic.

"It's going to all work out," Mr. Trump said as recently as Thursday night. "Everybody has to be calm. It's going to work out."

Justin Fox comments on the president's terrible messaging:

The biggest problem, though, is simply the way that the president talks about the disease. His instinct at every turn is to downplay its danger and significance.

Minimizing the danger and significance of the outbreak ensured that the government's response was less urgent and focused than it could have been. It encouraged people to take it less seriously and thus made it more likely that the virus would spread. Then when the severity of the problem became undeniable, the earlier discredited happy talk makes it easier for people to disbelieve what the government tells them in the future.

The administration had time to prepare a more effective response, but as I said last week the administration frittered away the time they had. They were still preoccupied with keeping the virus out rather than trying to manage its spread once it arrived here, as it was inevitably going to do:

"We have contained this. I won't say airtight but pretty close to airtight," White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow said in a television interview on Feb. 25, echoing Trump's tweeted declaration that the virus was "very much under control" in the United States.

But it wasn't, and the administration's rosy messaging was fundamentally at odds with a growing cacophony of alarm bells inside and outside the U.S. government. Since January, epidemiologists, former U.S. public health officials and experts have been warning, publicly and privately, that the administration's insistence that containment was -- and should remain -- the primary way to confront an emerging infectious disease was a grave mistake.

The initial response and the stubborn refusal to adapt to new developments have meant that the U.S. is in a much worse position in handling this outbreak than many other countries. Max Nisen comments on the lack of testing in the U.S.:

Don't cheer just yet. The lower case count doesn't mean Americans are doing a better job of containing the virus; rather, it reflects the fact that the U.S. is badly behind in its ability to test people. The Centers for Disease Control stopped disclosing how many people it has tested as of Monday, but an analysis by The Atlantic could only confirm 1,895 tests. Switzerland, a country with fewer residents than New Jersey, has tested nearly twice as many people. The U.K., which has far fewer cases, has tested over 20,000. This gap is particularly worrisome given evidence of community spread in a number of different states and a high death count, both of which suggest the number of cases will jump as more tests are conducted.

Capacity is finally ramping up, but only after weeks of delays prompted by unforced errors and botched early test kits from the CDC. The continuing inability to test broadly is leading to missed cases, more infections, and an outbreak that will be bigger than it needed to be.

The administration not only bungled their initial response, but they have also been extremely resistant to admitting error. Trump's appointees are reluctant to contradict the president when he spouts nonsense about the outbreak, and that in turn makes it more difficult for them to communicate clearly and consistently with the public. All of this serves to undermine public trust in the government's response, and it prevents health officials from being able to do their jobs without political interference. The federal government's response has been hampered by a president who wants to make people think that the problem isn't that bad and is already being dealt with successfully:

At the White House, Trump and many of his aides were initially skeptical of just how serious the coronavirus threat was, while the president often seemed uninterested as long as the virus was abroad. At first, when he began to engage, he downplayed the threat -- "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA," he tweeted in late February -- and became a font of misinformation and confusion, further muddling his administration's response.

On Friday, visiting the CDC in Atlanta, the president spewed more falsehoods when he claimed, incorrectly: "Anybody that needs a test, gets a test. They're there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful."

When the president lies about such a serious matter, he is causing unnecessary confusion and he is sending exactly the wrong message that remedying earlier failures is not an urgent priority. Because Trump's primary concern is making himself look good in the short term, he is willing to risk a worse outbreak. During his visit to the CDC, the president went on in an even more bizarre vein to praise the tests by comparing them to his "perfect call" with the Ukrainian president last summer that led to his impeachment:

In an attempt to express confidence in the CDC's coronavirus test (the agency's second attempt after the first one it developed failed), Trump offered an unorthodox comparison from the last enormous crisis to swamp his presidency. The tests are just like his impeachment-causing attempt to pressure a foreign government to help him get reelected. "The tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good," Trump told reporters after falsely stating, again, that anyone who needed a test right now could get one.

This morning the president was back at it this morning with more self-serving misinformation:

We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus. We moved VERY early to close borders to certain areas, which was a Godsend. V.P. is doing a great job. The Fake News Media is doing everything possible to make us look bad. Sad!

-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 8, 2020

The president needs people to think that everything he does is perfect, so he is incapable of acknowledging his failures and prefers to vilify accurate reporting about those failures. He cannot help but mismanage the government response because he cannot put the national interest ahead of his own selfishness. An untold number of Americans will be paying a steep price for the president's unfitness for office in the weeks and months to come.

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Englewood12 hours ago

"An untold number of Americans will be paying a steep price for the president's unfitness for office in the weeks and months to come."

We've been paying it for a while. It's just more obvious now. I wish I never voted for him.

SFBay1949 Englewood6 hours ago • edited
I wish you had thought a bit into the future before you voted him. Did you really think things wouldn't turn out EXACTLY the way they have? Honestly, it's to rime tell the truth here.
Englewood SFBay19495 hours ago
It's the Democrats who should have thought a bit into the future. It was the identity and known character and policies of Trump's opponent that tipped my vote to Trump. And no, obviously I didn't think things would turn out "exactly" this way. I thought if I put up with his repulsive manner I'd get maybe a third of his main campaign promises and that the GOP establishment would get the hiding it deserves. Boy, was I wrong.
SFBay1949 Englewood3 hours ago
I take you believe Hillary Clinton was worse than Trump. Fair enough, but do you still think our country would be in the state it is now? In what way could she possibly be worse than what we have now with Trump?
Brandon Falusi SFBay19494 hours ago
It's better for Trumpism to have burst like a zit onto the mirror, no matter how disgusting, because it was all there anyway under Bush and Cheney, it was there alongside "Barack the magic... birth certificate!" You can fairly easily wash off the stain of Bush and Rumsfeld, you can sort of start to forget their sublime horror, the exact same level of lies and utter mismanagement, but you can't wash off a man like Trump, ever. His portrait will be in the White House so future Americans can see what we're capable of, and hopefully be more vigilant about the subtle and polished lies and civilized outrages. We needed this barbaric display to get some clarity.
King George12 hours ago
"The president has been about the situation because he evidently cares more about the
short-term political implications than he does about protecting the public"

It's no different from the first two years of his presidency. He already betrayed those of us who voted for the America First promises on immigration and ending the wars. He spent most of his doing favors for Wall Street, Israel, and Saudi Arabia instead. Now he's going to betray the many vulnerable elders who voted for him, risking their illness and even death by his selfish evasions and lies. He's a con artist. A fake.

[Mar 09, 2020] How Coronavirus Spread From Patient Zero in Seattle

Mar 09, 2020 | www.bloomberg.com

Testing around the U.S. was hampered when local officials reported flaws in the kits the CDC sent. Replacements didn't come until weeks later, which left most hospitals and clinics short of tests. Shifting guidelines for who should get the few tests available also confused hospitals, Diaz said.

At the time, there had still been just the single case reported in Seattle. Trevor Bedford, a Harvard-trained researcher and viral genome expert at the city's Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, wondered why. He had spent weeks analyzing genomes of patients from around the world, tracing minor mutations to deduce how Covid-19 emerged and spread.

The early work found that infections were doubling roughly every six days, and that for every three to four rounds of transmission -- or once every 20 to 30 days -- one minor mutation was occurring, Bedford said in a Feb. 13 interview. "We are watching very carefully for more local transmission," he said at the time.

They soon found it: a teenager with mild symptoms who attended a high school about 15 miles from where the first case was identified -- someone who wouldn't have been tested because he or she didn't meet the criteria. But the results showed up in the Seattle Flu Study, a project on which Bedford is a lead scientist.

The new case, announced Feb. 28, was genetically identical to the original except for three minor mutations in the virus. And it contained a key genetic variant that was present only in two of 59 viral samples from China. This type of circumstantial evidence stops just short of proving a chain of transmission. It's possible the Washington cluster didn't derive from the known Patient Zero, but another case that came into Washington the same time and went undetected. Still, Bedford calculated a 97 percent probability the new case was a direct descendant -- one that hadn't been spotted because of the narrow testing at that time, Bedford wrote in a March 2 post.

"This lack of testing was a critical error and allowed an outbreak in Snohomish County and surroundings to grow to a sizable problem before it was even detected," he wrote.

... ... ...

All told, 31 Kirkland firefighters -- almost a third of the department -- in addition to 10 from other communities as well as some relatives have been quarantined, adding to the stress on emergency teams.

Bedford, the genome expert, is working with University of Washington researchers to understand the extent of the spread. Last week, the university started using its own virus test, a modified version of one created by the World Health Organization. When a positive result is found in a sample, the researchers perform a second round of tests to sequence the viral genome.

Pavitra Roychoudhury, a university researcher in charge of sequencing, said technicians have been working late into the night to complete as many samples and sequences as possible. She puts her toddler to bed and then logs back into her computer.

On a call with reporters on Monday, Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, called Bedford's theory "an interesting hypothesis" but said other possibilities have not been ruled out. "There are alternate explanations of the same findings," she said. There may have been a "secondary seeding" in the community, she said, as more recent cases in Washington match viral sequences posted in China.

So far, Bedford has reported, sequencing still suggests the transmission is related to the original patient -- and the number of active infections could reach 1,100 by March 10 and 2,000 by March 15.

What's more, the state's early cases may have seeded infections now exploding on the cruise ship Grand Princess off California's coast, he tweeted this week. Researchers from the University of California at San Francisco have said the viral strain from a patient infected on the ship is similar to the cluster circulating in Washington state. -- With assistance by Emma Court and Michelle Fay Cortez

[Mar 09, 2020] How many new coronarvirus cases have been confirmed in the U.S.?

Mar 09, 2020 | www.thecut.com

As of March 6, there were at least 228 confirmed cases of the new coronavirus -- the WHO has officially named the disease that this virus causes COVID-19 -- across the U.S, the majority of which have been in Washington state. Most of the initial cases were people recently traveled to China or were released from quarantine aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship , which experienced an outbreak last month. Increasingly, though, new cases have cropped up in people who have no known association with outbreak epicenters, suggesting that the virus is spreading undetected through person-to-person contact and has been for weeks.

COVID-19 cases have been confirmed in 14 states, including Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, Illinois, Wisconsin, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New York , New Hampshire, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, New Jersey, Maryland, and Indiana . In Washington State, where most coronavirus fatalities in the U.S. so far has occurred, it's possible that as many as 1,500 people may have been infected . There's also an outbreak at a long-term care facility, the Life Care Center, in Kirkland, Washington, where 50 residents and employees reportedly have COVID-19 symptoms.

On Thursday, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in New York reached 22, and 2,773 others in the state are under quarantines, the New York Times reports. The same day, Maryland and New Jersey also reported new confirmed cases; in total, the former state now has three cases while the latter has two . Most recently, Indiana reported its first confirmed case.

[Mar 08, 2020] Glaring bureaucratic incompetence

Notable quotes:
"... During the 2019-2020 influenza season, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimate that 15 million people came down with flu, of whom 140,000 required hospitalisation. 8,200 deaths were recorded. Over a 4-month period, that averages to 2,050 deaths per month. This is in a country with 1/4 of the population of China's. ..."
"... If the White House failed to recognise a major health crisis already simmering on its own doorstep, what hope can be held for when the coronavirus epidemic starts sweeping through the inland US, taking out the elderly, the poor and the homeless? ..."
Mar 08, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Jen , Mar 6 2020 20:01 utc | 13

Likklemore @ 6:

The White House should not have needed to look very far to China to prepare for a coronavirus epidemic within the US.

During the 2019-2020 influenza season, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimate that 15 million people came down with flu, of whom 140,000 required hospitalisation. 8,200 deaths were recorded. Over a 4-month period, that averages to 2,050 deaths per month. This is in a country with 1/4 of the population of China's.

If the White House failed to recognise a major health crisis already simmering on its own doorstep, what hope can be held for when the coronavirus epidemic starts sweeping through the inland US, taking out the elderly, the poor and the homeless?

[Mar 08, 2020] Washington State could see explosion in coronavirus cases, study says

Mar 08, 2020 | www.statnews.com

The genetic sequences of patients in the Seattle-King County region suggest the virus has been circulating there since about mid-January, when the first U.S. patient -- a man who returned from Wuhan -- was diagnosed, Bedford wrote in the analysis, published online 6 .

The spread of the virus has gone undetected in part because many infected people experience only mild infections that could be confused for a cold or the flu, and in part because of stumbles in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's effort to develop test kits for state and local public health laboratories, which has meant very little testing has been done in the country until the past few days.

... ... ...

"January 1 in Wuhan was March 1 in Seattle," Bedford told STAT. "Now would be the time to start these interventions rather than waiting three weeks."

... ... ...

The stringent actions China took drove down new infections in Hubei province -- where Wuhan is located -- to low levels, though transmission continues there. Other cities in the country that started to see cases were able, with the same measures, to avoid the explosive transmission Wuhan had experienced. Flattening the epidemic curve, as that phenomenon is called, helps health care systems continue to function. An eruption of cases overtaxes hospitals, leading to deaths that otherwise could have been avoided.

"China saw not much of an epidemic outside of Hubei because they acted early," Bedford said.

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