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[Nov 23, 2020] If we assume that Venezuela is somehow connected to Dominion,that makes deploying these machines in the US a electoral crime.

Nov 23, 2020 | www.moonofalabama.org

Featherless , Nov 22 2020 18:18 utc | 26

An idea just occurred to me that might explain the "Dominion machines/Venezuela" connection :

If Venezuela is widely (bipartisanly) considered "electoral fraudsters", that taints these machines.

That makes IMPLEMENTING these machines a few years later in the US a WILLFUL electoral crime.


Featherless , Nov 22 2020 19:17 utc | 35

bevin, you're missing my point.

Here's an analogy : imagine the blues and reds both agree that I am a notorious thief, even if it's only a false narrative. Then they hire me as a security guard. That would be willfully, knowingly hiring a criminal, which would be criminal, not because of the facts, but because of the logic.

Stonebird , Nov 22 2020 19:37 utc | 38

A couple of thoughts about the Venzuela gambit. Evidently Tucker Carson wanted Sydney to tell him all about the "Dominion" vote flipping in a public interview. Which would have been tantamount to giving away all the potential Republican case, and given the Democrats prior knowledge of what to expect. A no-go. Mentioning "Venezuela-Cuba" could have the effect of heading off a direct civil war if the US Dems and Repubs have a" common enemy" to blame. (Too late for Russia, China too touchy, not many other major targets). Note that Venezuela has a paper trail created at the same time as the electronic vote...

[Nov 23, 2020] Trump's legal team distances itself from Sidney Powell after she suggests that Georgia's GOP governor conspired to help Biden

Nov 23, 2020 | www.rt.com

Trump's legal team distances itself from Sidney Powell after she suggests that Georgia's GOP governor conspired to help Biden win 23 Nov, 2020 00:58 / Updated 46 minutes ago Get short URL Trump's legal team distances itself from Sidney Powell after she suggests that Georgia's GOP governor conspired to help Biden win FILE PHOTO © REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst 15 Follow RT on RT Donald Trump's top lawyers disavowed Sidney Powell just three days after she joined them at a presser to help outline the president's election-fraud allegations, and hours after she lobbed fraud allegations at Georgia's governor.

"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," senior Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis said on Sunday in a joint statement. "She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity."

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Giuliani and Ellis gave no explanation for the statement. Trump last week named Powell, a former federal prosecutor, among five well-known lawyers who would lead his legal team in challenging the results of this month's presidential election.

Powell was among three featured speakers when the Trump legal team held a press conference on Thursday to give an overview of its election-fraud cases in key states that the president apparently lost to Democrat rival Joe Biden.

ALSO ON RT.COM 'I'm going to RELEASE THE KRAKEN': Michael Flynn's attorney vows to expose Dem collusion behind prominent voting machine firm

Powell focused largely on accusations that Dominion voting machines and Smartmatic election software were fraudulently manipulated to award thousands of fake votes to Biden. Her allegations went deeper, involving allies of the late Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez owning Dominion and having ties to Democrat billionaire donor George Soros.

But by Thursday night, Powell's story was being challenged by a conservative media superstar, Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who said she had brushed off multiple requests to provide evidence of the Dominion-Smartmatic scheme for his show. She also was invited to be interviewed on his show, but "when we kept pressing, she got angry and told us to stop contacting her," Carlson said.

ALSO ON RT.COM Doubling down: Tucker claims other Trump legal team members yet to see evidence on rigged election software from Sidney Powell

Powell responded by saying she told Carlson not to contact her again because he was "very insulting, demanding and rude." She also provided him with an affidavit and referred him to a witness who could help him understand her statistical evidence. Carlson followed up the next night, saying he had heard from Trump sources, including other members of the president's legal team, who said that they hadn't seen Powell's evidence firsthand.

If Powell's allegations in the press conference seemed a little wild, her interview on Saturday night with conservative news outlet Newsmax took the case to another level. She accused Georgia's Republican governor, Brian Kemp, and the state's secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, of receiving financial benefits to help Biden win the state's 16 electoral votes.

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"Georgia's probably going to be the first state I'm gonna blow up," Powell said of her planned fraud cases. "And Mr. Kemp and the secretary of state need to go with it because they're in on the Dominion scam." She added that her Georgia lawsuit, which she hopes to file this week, "will be biblical."

ALSO ON RT.COM 'KrakenOnSteroids': Sydney Powell says she 'understands' Trump's lawyers distancing themselves from her, vows to fight on

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pogohere 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 08:17 PM

Some teams are harder to play on than others. Look at the Flynn case. The US Dep. of Justice surrendered to Powell et. al. and requested that its own case against Flynn be dismissed following the disclosure by Powell's efforts that the DOJ was withholding evidence-- a "Brady rule violation"-- of Flynn's innocence from the defense and the court. Flynn's prestigious Wa DC law firm earlier had Flynn plead guilty. The judge is holding up the dismissal of that case, against all precedent. Powell most likely isn't finished. Neither is The Donald.
GoldMorgsCom 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 08:31 PM
Giuliani and Ellis intimidated and gearing down? Powell least nervous at the presentation. Usually fraud by (voting)computers escapes the possibility of external proof. But a peculiarity in the Michigan-elections enabled it. See on the site vashiva (Shiva) MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems. Its systematic fraud, save screenshots. Steven J. Miller Ph.D. published his testimony, that about 50'000 mail-in ballots of republicans have disapeared in Pensylvenia and 50'000 absentee ballots have been abused by others (in favor of Biden = +50000). It makes up about 150000 to the disadvantage of Trump in PA. Bidens surplus was about 75000. About Michigan and Pensylvenia it has been published that the number of fraud votes was sufficient for a fraud change of the outcome in favor of "the democrats". The signals are that the same happened in the other critical states . See also -- Trump lawyers allege 'MASSIVE' election fraud, point to sworn statements & efforts to threaten and silence them (VIDEO)-- 19 Nov, 2020 20:30 ( rt-search, on top at the right ) In the first ten minutes it is explained how the "democrat" bosses facilitated huge fraud with absentee ballots. In Pensylvenia 682'000 have been accepted without proper checks and with destroying the evidence of fraud. It is a federal offence not to store all election records (scans), even not collecting them, such as besiding mail-in envelopes and not checking them before opening them.
JingsGeordie 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 08:18 PM
Disavows? That's twisting the information (edit - they've now changed it to 'distances') From Gen. Flynn's twitter feed - ".@SidneyPowell1 has been suspended from Twitter for 12 hours. She understands the WH press release & agrees with it. She is staying the course to prove the massive deliberate election fraud that robbed #WeThePeople of our votes for President Trump & other Republican candidates."
Thesheperd666 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:02 PM
Trump fired Sidney Powell ? That is a huge mistake and might coast him the presidency. Trumps team looks weak now ! Sidney look more confident and much more calmer than Rudy Giuliani. I really don't trust Rudy as much as Sidney, wondering if they are afraid of spoiling the Republic party before the 12th amendment goes to the house for votes ? Either side your on this makes Trumps team look bad, and are starting to make up stories. I think Trump did win by a landslide and this years vote was stolen from the US citizens. Demarcates can breath a little more easier now that Sidney is gone, she was the strongest one on the team. Trump needs more Sidney Powell's not less, I don't trust Rudy nor do I think he has what it takes to win. Trump needs better Lawyers, Rudy is just a celebrity lawyer that will keep his image no matter what ! Trump needs tigers not mice !
anastasia265 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:27 PM
It's not true. She was never a part of that team and had her own funding site. Their strategy was to keep the two matters separate
J_P_Franklin 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 08:49 PM
Majority of Republicans are and have conspired against Trump since 2016. America First Trumpism is the opposite of Republican open borders/free trade treason.
GoldMorgsCom 4 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:03 PM
Peculiar is that the German chamber of commerce does not reveal any registration of the Dominions, neither of Smartmatic neither of Scytl neither of Amazone. These have not registrated or their registrations are being hidden on request. So who's prosecution by the German state prosecutors is to be requested?
Gerald Newton 2 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 10:56 PM
Sidney Powell has not released her evidence yet but it is coming. She has an impressive record and probably will crush much of the federal justice system. That is what she does. Read her book, Licensed to Lie. It is about the way federal prosecutors lie to prosecute like they did to Senator Stevens of Alaska.
Swanster6450 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:56 PM
I guess Sidney Powell is finding what happens to people from outside the political loop when they seek to stick their nose in and point out a few inconsistencies. Chucked under a bus is the usual outcome. Julian Assange is also finding out the same thing and, incidentally, so too is Donald Trump. All shafted and all chucked under a bus for pointing out a few inconsistencies.
RTreaderCaribb 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:56 PM
I have one question and one question only: why would Sydney Powell who seems to be very bright and a good lawyer say something of which she would know will be exposed only in less than 14 days to be totally untrue? This makes no sense at all. And so I think we all should pray that this woman does not end up like Jeffrey Epstein. We should take our time. 14 days are nothing in comparison to the endless work she has to put in . And if she cant show any fact for her allegations then we can maybe say something went wrong with her. But right now let this woman work. All this prejudgment in the public court is irritating to me. And if Sidney Powell did the same then yes, she would be irritating to me too. And for Trump: If he can prove voter fraud then he should go to the supreme court. If he cant then at some point he must concede. I guess the latest is December 14th and until then he should just figure out what it is. That is his legal right. And for the American people: if you were so stupid to vote for Biden then please bear the consequences thereof because you will go down the tubes. The man is not well in his head.
allan Kaplan 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:43 PM
Sidney Powell's stamina, her defiance and her antipathy is so real that those who have faced injustice by the hands of the powerful know what it takes to get such bullies sweating. The house of cards of the Democrat commies will come tumbling down once Powell gets to the podium of naming names, dates, places, and their coconspirators et al. I love her tenacity, determination, perseverance and her unflinching boldness that most of the dems are sweating about! Thank you Ms. Powell for a great American tradition and go full speed... the dissenting maverick you are!
GoldMorgsCom 3 hours ago 22 Nov, 2020 09:27 PM
They are so scared that the president Trump will conduct the great cleansing, to start with removing the authority on the dollar from the Federal Reserve to the usa federal state of the people. They are already blocking the president Trump during four years to keep him from that. They know they can now only keep the president Trump from the great cleansing by removing him from office. They will do more than the high treason of the fraud against the federal elections, to remove the president Trump from office. Eventually they will detonate a smuggled-in nuclear bomb and allegate Russia or fire a missile with a nuclear bomb from an unindentified submarine and allegate Russia. You believe the spread of Covid-19 this year was a coincidense? If Russia is being attacked any more (with allegations) it is a good reason for conducting the great cleansing in Russia. Those probably sly covered Khodorovski-types who are pressing forward (exports of) GMM-injections "against Covid-19" are probably backstabbing Russia; catastrophic future compensation claims on Russia and confiscation of all export-incomes. This is a good reason for conducting the great cleansing out of Russia of all Khodorovski-types. We hope that the reorganized government of Russia will cleanse out all Khodorovski-types, no matter the president Trump will continue office and conduct the great cleansing in the usa or not.
Marlin1091 12 minutes ago 23 Nov, 2020 01:06 AM
Google did and is helping biden. That is why I don't use google any more, I use Yandex and for fackrok I use vk

[Nov 22, 2020] Sidney Powell has a tighrope to walk. Her opponent is not the opposing campaign of Dem hacks. Her opponent is CIA. CIA stuffed all those ballots.

Nov 22, 2020 | www.unz.com

Wally , says: Next New Comment November 22, 2020 at 12:04 am GMT • 18.6 hours ago

@Brett Redmayne-Titley dney-powell-staggering-evidence-of-vote-fraud-dominion-machines-engineered-by-china-venezuela-cuba/
Trump Lawyer Sidney Powell Responds to Tucker Carlson: 'He Was Insulting, Demanding and Rude' : https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/11/20/trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-responds-to-tucker-carlson-he-was-insulting-demanding-and-rude/#
includes:

and more Powell interviews:

https://youtu.be/F5vndAmMqAM

anonymous [379] Disclaimer , says: Next New Comment November 22, 2020 at 12:20 am GMT • 18.4 hours ago

BRT 207, agreed that the interview was less than cathartic, but Sidney has a tighrope to walk. Her opponent is not the opposing campaign of Dem hacks. Her opponent is CIA. CIA stuffed all those ballots. Unfortunately for Sidney, in US law and regulation, CIA crime is secret. The perps are secret under the IIPA. The facts are secret under the operational files exemption. The law is secret under COG procedures. Flynn explained the birds and bees to her. Remember DIA is JFK's creation.

Now Sidney has to find a way to puke up evidence of CIA crime in court.

CIA ratfucked Chavez with their electoral malware, albeit ineffectually.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06CARACAS2063_a.html (per that cheeky monkey PCR)

CIA put their Venezuelan proprietary through a couple of sheepdippings and turned it on Trump. Just like they used it on Kerry. Just like they do whenever you vote for the wrong guy. Honnête homme Hopsicker, offered a lifetime of hookers and blow to shut up, has the most synoptic take:

https://www.madcowprod.com/2020/11/15/short-history-election-fraud/

This is transnational organized crime by CIA. Sidney has to call CIA agents under oath. She has to protect them from DO's murderers. She has to explode everything you think about your bullshit fake democracy. I don't know if she can do it but I hope she can.

[Nov 22, 2020] Government-Funded Scientists Laid the Groundwork for Billion-Dollar Vaccines -

Nov 22, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

By Arthur Allen, editor for California Healthline, joined Kaiser Health News in April 2020 after six years at Politico, where he created, edited and wrote for the first health IT-focused news team. Previously, he was a freelance writer for publications such as The New York Times, The Washington Post, Smithsonian, Lingua Franca magazine, The New Republic, Slate and Salon. Earlier in his career, he worked for The Associated Press for 13 years, including stints as a correspondent based in El Salvador, Mexico and Germany. He is the author of the books "V Kaiser Health News. accine: The Controversial Story of Medicine's Greatest Lifesaver" (W.W. Norton, 2007); "Ripe: The Search for the Perfect Tomato" (Counterpoint Press, 2010) and "The Fantastic Laboratory of Dr. Weigl" (W.W. Norton, 2014). Originally published at Kaiser Health News Kaiser Health News .

When he started researching a troublesome childhood infection nearly four decades ago, virologist Dr. Barney Graham , then at Vanderbilt University, had no inkling his federally funded work might be key to deliverance from a global pandemic.

Yet nearly all the vaccines advancing toward possible FDA approval this fall or winter are based on a design developed by Graham and his colleagues, a concept that emerged from a scientific quest to understand a disastrous 1966 vaccine trial.

Basic research conducted by Graham and others at the National Institutes of Health, Defense Department and federally funded academic laboratories has been the essential ingredient in the rapid development of vaccines in response to COVID-19. The government has poured an additional $10.5 billion into vaccine companies since the pandemic began to accelerate the delivery of their products.

The Moderna vaccine, whose remarkable effectiveness in a late-stage trial was announced Monday morning, emerged directly out of a partnership between Moderna and Graham's NIH laboratory.

Coronavirus vaccines are likely to be worth billions to the drug industry if they prove safe and effective. As many as 14 billion vaccines would be required to immunize everyone in the world against COVID-19. If, as many scientists anticipate, vaccine-produced immunity wanes, billions more doses could be sold as booster shots in years to come. And the technology and production laboratories seeded with the help of all this federal largesse could give rise to other profitable vaccines and drugs.

The vaccines made by Pfizer and Moderna, which are likely to be the first to win FDA approval, in particular rely heavily on two fundamental discoveries that emerged from federally funded research: the viral protein designed by Graham and his colleagues, and the concept of RNA modification, first developed by Drew Weissman and Katalin Karikó at the University of Pennsylvania. In fact, Moderna's founders in 2010 named the company after this concept: "Modified" + "RNA" = Moderna, according to co-founder Robert Langer .

"This is the people's vaccine," said corporate critic Peter Maybarduk, director of Public Citizen's Access to Medicines program. "Federal scientists helped invent it and taxpayers are funding its development. It should belong to humanity."

Moderna, through spokesperson Ray Jordan, acknowledged its partnership with NIH throughout the COVID-19 development process and earlier. Pfizer spokesperson Jerica Pitts noted the company had not received development and manufacturing support from the U.S. government, unlike Moderna and other companies.

The idea of creating a vaccine with messenger RNA, or mRNA -- the substance that converts DNA into proteins -- goes back decades. Early efforts to create mRNA vaccines failed, however, because the raw RNA was destroyed before it could generate the desired response. Our innate immune systems evolved to kill RNA strands because that's what many viruses are.

Karikó came up with the idea of modifying the elements of RNA to enable it to slip past the immune system undetected. The modifications she and Weissman developed allowed RNA to become a promising delivery system for both vaccines and drugs. To be sure, their work was enhanced by scientists at Moderna, BioNTech and other laboratories over the past decade.

Another key element in the mRNA vaccine is the lipid nanoparticle -- a tiny, ingeniously designed bit of fat that encloses the RNA in a sort of invisibility cloak, ferrying it safely through the blood and into cells and then dissolving, thereby allowing the RNA to do its work of coding a protein that will serve as the vaccine's main active ingredient. The idea of enclosing drugs or vaccines in lipid nanoparticles arose first in the 1960s and was developed by Langer and others at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and various academic and industry laboratories.

Karikó began investigating RNA in 1978 in her native Hungary and wrote her first NIH grant proposal to use mRNA as a therapeutic in 1989. She and Weissman achieved successes starting in 2004, but the path to recognition was often discouraging.

"I keep writing and doing experiments, things are getting better and better, but I never get any money for the work," she recalled in an interview. "The critics said it will never be a drug. When I did these discoveries, my salary was lower than the technicians working next to me."

Eventually, the University of Pennsylvania sublicensed the patent to Cellscript, a biotech company in Wisconsin, much to the dismay of Weissman and Karikó, who had started their own company to try to commercialize the discovery. Moderna and BioNTech later would each pay $75 million to Cellscript for the RNA modification patent, Karikó said. Though unhappy with her treatment at Penn, she remained there until 2013 -- partly because her daughter, Susan Francia, was making a name for herself on the school's rowing team. Francia would go on to win two Olympic gold medals in the sport. Karikó is now a senior officer at BioNTech.

In addition to RNA modification and the lipid nanoparticle, the third key contribution to the mRNA vaccines -- as well as those made by Novavax, Sanofi and Johnson & Johnson -- - is the bioengineered protein developed by Graham and his collaborators . It has proved in tests so far to elicit an immune response that could prevent the virus from causing infections and disease.

The protein design was based on the observation that so-called fusion proteins -- the pieces of the virus that enable it to invade a cell -- are shape-shifters, presenting different surfaces to the immune system after the virus fuses with and infects cells. Graham and his colleagues learned that antibodies against the post-fusion protein are far less effective at stopping an infection.

The discovery arose in part through Graham's studies of a 54-year-old tragedy -- the failed 1966 trial of an NIH vaccine against respiratory syncytial virus, or RSV. In a clinical trial, not only did that vaccine fail to protect against the common childhood disease, but most of the 21 children who received it were hospitalized with acute allergic reactions, and two died .

About a decade ago, Graham, now deputy director of NIH's Vaccine Research Center, took a new stab at the RSV problem with a postdoctoral fellow, Jason McLellan. After isolating and obtaining three-dimensional models of the RSV's fusion protein, they worked with Chinese scientists to identify an appropriate neutralizing antibody against it.

"We were sitting in Xiamen, China, when Jason got the first image up on his laptop, and I was like, oh my God, it's coming together," Graham recalled. The prefusion antibodies they discovered were 16 times more potent than the post-fusion form contained in the faulty 1960s vaccine.

Two 2013 papers the team published in Science earned them a runner-up prize in the prestigious journal's Breakthrough of the Year award. Their papers, which showed it was possible to plan and create a vaccine at the microscopic structural level, set the NIH's Vaccine Research Center on a path toward creating a generalizable, rapid way to design vaccines against emerging pandemic viruses, Graham said.

In 2016, Graham, McLellan and other scientists, including Andrew Ward at the Scripps Research Institute, advanced their concept further by publishing the prefusion structure of a coronavirus that causes the common cold and a patent was filed for its design by NIH, Scripps and Dartmouth -- where McLellan had set up his own lab. NIH and the University of Texas -- where McLellan now works -- filed an additional patent this year for a similar design change in the virus that causes COVID-19.

Graham's NIH lab, meanwhile, had started working with Moderna in 2017 to design a rapid manufacturing system for vaccines. In January, they were preparing a demonstration project, a clinical trial to test whether Graham's protein design and Moderna's mRNA platform could be used to create a vaccine against Nipah, a deadly virus spread by bats in Asia.

Their plans changed rapidly when they learned on Jan. 7 that the epidemic of respiratory disease in China was being caused by a coronavirus.

"We agreed immediately that the demonstration project would focus on this virus" instead of Nipah, Graham said. Moderna produced a vaccine within six weeks. The first patient was vaccinated in an NIH-led clinical study on March 16; early results from Moderna's 30,000-volunteer late-stage trial showed it was nearly 95% effective at preventing COVID-19.

Although other scientists have advanced proposals for what may be even more potent vaccine antigens , Graham is confident that carefully designed vaccines using nucleic acids like RNA reflect the future of new vaccines. Already, two major drug companies are doing advanced clinical trials for RSV vaccines based on the designs his lab discovered, he said.

In a larger sense, the pandemic could be the event that paves the way for better, perhaps cheaper and more plentiful vaccines.

"It's a silver lining, but I think we are definitely pushing forward the way everyone is thinking about vaccines," said Michael Farzan , chair of the department of immunology and microbiology at Scripps Research's Florida campus. "Certain techniques that have been waiting in the wings, under development but never achieving the kind of funding they needed for major tests, will finally get their chance to shine."

Under a 1980 law, the NIH will obtain no money from the coronavirus vaccine patent. How much money will eventually go to the discoverers or their institutions isn't clear. Any existing licensing agreements haven't been publicized; patent disputes among some of the companies will likely last years. HHS' big contracts with the vaccine companies are not transparent, and Freedom of Information Act requests have been slow-walked and heavily redacted, said Duke University law professor Arti Rai.

Some basic scientists involved in the enterprise seem to accept the potentially lopsided financial rewards.

"Having public-private partnerships is how things get done," Graham said. "During this crisis, everything is focused on how can we do the best we can as fast as we can for the public health. All this other stuff is going to have to be figured out later."

"It's not a good look to become extremely wealthy off a pandemic," McLellan said, noting the big stock sales by some vaccine company executives after they received hundreds of millions of dollars in government assistance. Still, "the companies should be able to make some money."

For Graham, the lesson of the coronavirus vaccine response is that a few billion dollars a year spent on additional basic research could prevent a thousand times as much loss in death, illness and economic destruction.

"Basic research informs what we do, and planning and preparedness can make such a difference in how we get ahead of these epidemics," he said.


Larry , November 18, 2020 at 7:21 am

I appreciate the recent re-look at the nexus of public investment funding private profit in the pharma space. I'm not old enough to recall how things were done prior to the 1980s with regards to promising academic discoveries getting commercialized in the United States. There is also a glaring omission here in that there are mechanisms for the Federal Government to take control of patents and price fix in an emergency, but it's clear that was never going to happen and was never whispered in the lead up to operation Warp Speed. Pfizer keeps pointing out they never took government money, which is a set up for them to set the price at whatever they want while executives line their pockets.

The second point, that is not a focus of the article, is that these technologies are still completely unproven. I am optimistic about the early results, though would feel better if they were published in quality journals and not press releases. We simply don't know anything about long term affects of dosing with this technology. These articles make it sound like we're out of the woods and these vaccines are here to stay, but what if there are high percentages of people that get major side effects? We still have no idea.

Code Name D , November 18, 2020 at 7:53 am

But Joe Biden is now president. So of course the vaccines will work.

John Hacker , November 18, 2020 at 10:51 am

I was just thinking about that this morning. I thought about the little boy who cried wolf. If Don had not tarnished his (??where-with-all??) by not leading. He still be the Prez.

WobblyTelomeres , November 18, 2020 at 7:54 am

So, Larry, what would it take to convince you? A million volunteers? A billion? 2 years? 5 years?

trhys , November 18, 2020 at 8:01 am

So, Wobbly, can I safely assume that you and your family have already volunteered for one of the trials?

WobblyTelomeres , November 18, 2020 at 8:31 am

As I have stated here, yes.

trhys , November 18, 2020 at 8:45 am

I applaud you for standing with power of your convictions. Not many have the integrity to do so. This is meant sincerely.

On the other hand I think Larry has a point. Hopefully his and my concerns will prove to be unfounded. I believe it is too soon to tell. Your question about the quantification of risk is a fair question and is difficult for the layman judge.

WobblyTelomeres , November 18, 2020 at 9:36 am

I share the concerns that have been and are voiced here. Still, there is a class aspect to it all. It seems as if this war is like every other war; the poors are sent in first. There are many, perhaps the majority of volunteers, that need the couple of hundred bucks the pharmas are offering the participants. They are the same people that line up to sell their blood plasma every week. Big business, that. So, I woke up, looked in the mirror, and told the old man there to "Suck it up, Buttercup."

And Lambert and others are right when they say our leaders should be first in line to roll up their sleeves. Just don't forget the many that have already done so.

Susan the other , November 18, 2020 at 11:21 am

It was a revelation to me that RNA vaccines had been in the works since the 60s. That makes me a little more in-favor of them. It is still frightening that this vaccine will be mandated for all medical personnel before the rest of the population. Also interesting that RNA gets greased up to slip past the enzymes(?) that destroy errant RNA I'm still trying to think how that might not be such a good thing. But you are right – it looks like it works. Extremely well in fact. But a timeline to prove it is safe? I'd say one or two generations. If this mRNA slips past the mechanisms to protect the cell from foreign RNA then it could hang around long enough to communicate itself back to the genetic DNA – it's just that they don't quite know how that process works yet. And that's scary as hell. (Lamarck's Signature). I'd say maybe we should not give this vaccine to anyone under the age of 35 until we know more about possible negatives involving inheritance. Instead we should produce good medicines to treat these infections.

John Hacker , November 18, 2020 at 10:58 am

Don't we have laws for price gouging in a crisis? As for untested. Check the thread for data started compiling 1966.

BillC , November 18, 2020 at 10:54 am

Yes, we need volunteers. And they need to be fully informed. I hope you noticed this remark in yesterday's Water Cooler. Of course, we don't know that the commentor's claimed bona fides are factual, but if so, his/her take seems appropriate to me.

WobblyTelomeres , November 18, 2020 at 11:55 am

I did, and I take them at their word as to background. Valid concerns, well expressed.

Larry , November 18, 2020 at 11:58 am

The publications and a full accounting of side effects are important for a new technology like this. Traditional vaccinations are in the billions of doses at this point and quite safe. For this new technology, it's quite hard to say. The publications might bowl me over and convince me, but press releases do not.

Wes , November 18, 2020 at 3:57 pm

The Moderna study (n=45) was published in NEJM. Haven't read beyond the abstract or looked for the Pfizer study yet.

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KLG , November 18, 2020 at 7:48 am

It should be noted that, so far, we have proof of effectiveness in the form of press releases that are intended to goose stock prices.

Long story, but the neoliberalization of basic biomedical science is complete. This was foreseeable upon passage of the Bayh-Dole Act of 1980. I remember how such science was done way back then. Scientists did science. Those without the patience and essentially self-abnegation required for that, went to work at Ciba-Geigy or Burroughs-Welcome or Merck. The system worked, more or less. At the time I was a very junior lab member, and I told my labmates that Bayh-Dole meant only that we would pay for most science (at least) twice, the first time when NIH/NSF/ACS/AHA/March of Dimes funded it and the second time when Big Pharma "bought" it and charged what a false, not free, market in research and health care would bear. They just stared at me, with stars in their eyes.

Polar Donkey , November 18, 2020 at 9:18 am

Dolly Parton invested $1 m illion in the Moderna vaccine. I can't wait till Tennessee takes down all these Nathan Bedford Forrest statues and replaces them with Dolly Parton.

rd , November 18, 2020 at 12:44 pm

Dolly Parton is a great songwriter and performer but is also a shrewd businesswoman who is hyper-focused on helping "her people" in the region where she grew up dirt poor. "Coat of Many Colors" is one of the truly great autobiographical songs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_Many_Colors_(song)

Appreciation for Dolly shows up in many interesting corners in the region. Several years ago, a newly discovered lichen in southern Appalachia was named in her honor. I never heard a comment from her on this, but she probably thought it was great. https://www.nybg.org/blogs/science-talk/2015/05/honoring-a-musical-legend-of-the-southern-appalachians/

Replacing a Nathan Bedford Forest statue with her would be a great move.

Serfs Up! , November 18, 2020 at 10:38 am

1.So if there were to be no vaccine and the virus had it's way with us, killing 1% of us, that's what, -- 3 million souls?

2. Alternatively, if there is a vaccine and everyone is vaccinated and that brings an end to the pandemic, with deaths much curtailed, but 25,000 get Guillian Barre', that's still a win right?
(Though not if you are one of the 25,000.)

3. Lastly, given their penchant for maximizing clicks and eyeballs,
how do you think the media would handle situations 1 or 2?

Trust in Public Health is easier to knock down than to build back up, especially vaccines.

As Greg Brown says, "It's a long way up but it's a short way down."

Ford Prefect , November 18, 2020 at 12:48 pm

South Dakota will be very informative on this front. It appears to be trying to drag-race herd immunity through infection before a vaccine shows up. It will probably be the control group for the statistical study of the relative efficacy on lives saved by a vaccine vs. letting the disease take its natural course. Beer appears to be the placebo vaccine of choice in South Dakota.

BrianM , November 18, 2020 at 1:25 pm

My reading of this is that even if Pfizer didn't take government money as part of the Warp Speed initiative, as a mRNA vaccine it still likely builds on the earlier work. I have no problem with pharma companies making a profit of their later work – they did do the last critical developments – but nothing for the earlier work isn't right.

AGKaiser , November 18, 2020 at 1:25 pm

We pay for it but they profit from it. Why? Why is there for profit pharma and corporate medicine to begin with? Why is there competition instead of cooperation in the production of life saving/extending and other commonly needed goods and services? The provision of pharmaceuticals and medicine are a free market failure. We are not adequately provided with what we all must have at prices we all can afford. They've failed not because of the scientists and medical practitioners who do the real work. They've failed because of the capitalist parasites that own the corporations that employ the professionals who create the products and provide the services on the ground.

Socal Rhino , November 18, 2020 at 2:07 pm

One thought unsupported by any relevant technical expertise: the delivery mechanism sounds well suited for bio weaponry given it bypasses your immune reaction to RNA.

Kris Alman , November 18, 2020 at 3:57 pm

The protein design was based on the observation that so-called fusion proteins -- the pieces of the virus that enable it to invade a cell -- are shape-shifters, presenting different surfaces to the immune system after the virus fuses with and infects cells. Graham and his colleagues learned that antibodies against the post-fusion protein are far less effective at stopping an infection.

Reminds me of this other mysterious shape-shifter: From Wikipedia:
Prions are misfolded proteins with the ability to transmit their misfolded shape onto normal variants of the same protein. They characterize several fatal and transmissible neurodegenerative diseases in humans and many other animals. It is not known what causes the normal protein to misfold, but the abnormal three-dimensional structure is suspected of conferring infectious properties, collapsing nearby protein molecules into the same shape. The word prion derives from "proteinaceous infectious particle".

Long-term follow-up of individuals who have received this vaccine versus their placebo compatriots is essential!

KLG , November 18, 2020 at 5:37 pm

Not likely to be similar. The "shape shifting" of the viral fusion protein means that different epitopes (i.e., different constellations of 3-D structure that elicit immune/antibody responses) of the fusion protein, which is embedded in the viral membrane envelope, are presented pre- and post-fusion. Antibodies against "post-fusion" fusion protein are unlikely to work because fusion with the host cell is the key phase of infection. But, and this is a big consideration, rushing into this is foolish, despite the rise in Big Pharma stock prices.

Fumettibrutti , November 19, 2020 at 3:40 am

COVID vaccine revelation sinks like a stone; disappears

In major media, certain stories gain traction. The trumpets keep blaring for a time before they fade.

Other stories are one-offs. A few of them strike hard. Their implications -- if anyone stops to think about them -- are powerful. Then nothing.

"Wait, aren't you going to follow up on that? Don't you see what that MEANS?"

Apparently not, because dead silence. "In other news, the governor lost his pet parakeet for an hour. His chief of staff found it taking a nap in a desk drawer "

One-offs function like teasers. You definitely want to know more, but you never get more.

Over the years, I've tried to follow up on a few. The reporter or the editor has a set of standard replies: "We didn't get much feedback." "We covered it." "It's now old news." "There wasn't anything else to find out."

Oh, but there WAS.

A few weeks ago, I ran a one-off. The analysis and commentary were mine, but the story was an opinion piece in the New York Times. The Times called it an opinion piece to soften its blow. I suspected it would disappear, and it did.

Its meaning and implication were too strong. It would be a vast embarrassment for the White House, the Warp Speed COVID vaccine program, the vaccine manufacturers, the coronavirus task force, and vaccine researchers.

And embarrassment would be just the beginning of their problem.

So here it is again. The vanished one-off, back in business:

COVID vaccine clinical trials doomed to fail; fatal design flaw; NY Times opinion piece exposes all three major clinical trials.

Peter Doshi, associate editor of the medical journal BMJ, and Eric Topol, Scripps Research professor of molecular medicine, have written a devastating NY Times opinion piece about the ongoing COVID vaccine clinical trials.

They expose the fatal flaw in the large Pfizer, AstraZeneca, and Moderna trials.

September 22, the Times: "These Coronavirus Trials Don't Answer the One Question We Need to Know"

"If you were to approve a coronavirus vaccine, would you approve one that you only knew protected people only from the most mild form of Covid-19, or one that would prevent its serious complications?"

"The answer is obvious. You would want to protect against the worst cases."

"But that's not how the companies testing three of the leading coronavirus vaccine candidates, Moderna, Pfizer and AstraZeneca, whose U.S. trial is on hold, are approaching the problem."

"According to the protocols for their studies, which they released late last week, a vaccine could meet the companies' benchmark for success if it lowered the risk of mild Covid-19, but was never shown to reduce moderate or severe forms of the disease, or the risk of hospitalization, admissions to the intensive care unit or death."

"To say a vaccine works should mean that most people no longer run the risk of getting seriously sick. That's not what these trials will determine."

This means these clinical trials are dead in the water.

The trials are designed to show effectiveness in preventing mild cases of COVID, which nobody should care about, because mild cases naturally run their course and cause no harm. THERE IS NO NEED FOR A VACCINE THAT PREVENTS MILD CASES.

There. That's the NY Times one-off. My piece analyzing it went on much longer, but you get the main thrust:

The leading vaccine clinical trials are useless, irrelevant, misleading, and deceptive.

But now, it gets much worse. Because Pfizer has just announced their vaccine is almost ready. CNBC headline, November 9: "Pfizer, BioNTech say Covid vaccine is more than 90% effective -- 'great day for science and humanity'"

And not a peep about the NY Times one-off. That's gone, as if it never was.

Trump's coronavirus task force knows the truth. Biden's new task force, waiting in the wings, knows the truth. But they don't care. They're criminals. They'd sell a car with a gas tank ready to explode to a customer with cash.

But you care, because you can read and think.

You can raise hell.

Now, in case anyone is interested in knowing WHY the major clinical trials of the COVID vaccine are designed only to prevent mild cases of COVID, I'll explain.

A vaccine maker assumes that, during the course of the clinical trial, a few of the 30,000 volunteers are going to "catch COVID-19."

They assume this because "the virus is everywhere," as far as they're concerned. So it'll drop down from the clouds and infect a few of the volunteers.

The magic number is 150. When that number of volunteers "catch COVID," everything stops. The clinical trial stops.

At this point, the vaccine maker hopes that most of the volunteers who "got infected" are in the placebo group. They didn't receive the real vaccine; they received the saltwater placebo shot.

Then the vaccine maker can proudly say, "See? The volunteers who caught COVID-19? Most of them didn't receive the vaccine. They weren't protected. The volunteers who received the real vaccine didn't catch COVID. The vaccine protected them."

Actually, the number split the vaccine makers are looking for is 50 and 100. If 50 people in the vaccine group catch COVID, and 100 in the placebo group catch COVID, the vaccine is said to be 50% effective. And that's all the vaccine maker needs to win FDA approval for the vaccine.

But wait. Let's look closer at this idea of "catching COVID." What are they really talking about? How do they define that? Claiming a volunteer in the clinical trial caught COVID adds up to what?

Does it add up to a minimal definition of COVID-19 -- a cough, or chills and fever? Or does it mean a serious case -- severe pneumonia?

Now we come to the hidden factor, the secret, the source of the whole con game.

You see, the vaccine maker starts out with 30,000 HEALTHY volunteers. So, if they waited for 150 of them to come down with severe pneumonia, a serious case of COVID, how long do you think that would take? Five years? Ten years?

The vaccine maker can't possibly wait that long.

These 150 COVID cases the vaccine maker is looking for would be mild. Just a cough. Or chills and fever. That scenario would only take a few months to develop. And face it, chills, cough, and fever aren't unique to COVID. Anyone can come down with those symptoms.

THEREFORE, THE WHOLE CLINICAL TRIAL IS DESIGNED, UP FRONT, TO FIND 150 CASES OF MILD AND MEANINGLESS AND SELF-CURING "COVID."

About which, no one cares. No one should care.

But, as we see, Pfizer is trumpeting their clinical trial of the vaccine as a landmark in human history.

And THAT'S the story of the one-off the NY Times didn't think was worth a second glance.

Because they're so stupid? No. They're not that stupid.

They're criminals.

And the government wants you to take the experimental COVID vaccine, whose "effectiveness" was designed to prevent nothing worth losing a night's sleep over.

The only worry are the adverse effects of the vaccine, about which I've written extensively. These effects include, depending on what's in the vial, a permanent alteration of your genetic makeup, or an auto-immune cascade, in which the body attacks itself.

by Jon Rappoport

November 11, 2020

Lambert Strether , November 19, 2020 at 8:45 am

Hoo boy.

[Nov 22, 2020] 'The Real Looting in America Is the Walton Family'- GAO Report Details How Taxpayers Subsidize Cruel Low Wages of Corporate G

Nov 22, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

'The Real Looting in America Is the Walton Family': GAO Report Details How Taxpayers Subsidize Cruel Low Wages of Corporate Giants Posted on November 19, 2020 by Jerri-Lynn Scofield

By Jon Queally, staff writer, Common Dreams. Originally published at Common Dreams

Pinpointing a reality denounced as " morally obscene " by Sen. Bernie Sanders, a new government study shows how some of the nation's largest and most profitable corporations -- including Walmart, McDonald's, Dollar General, and Amazon -- feast upon taxpayer money by paying their employees such low wages that huge numbers of those workers throughout the year are forced to rely on public assistance programs such as Medicaid and food assistance just to keep themselves and their families afloat.

According to a statement from Sanders' office, the study he commissioned the Government Accountability Office to carry out -- titled " Millions of Full-time Workers Rely on Federal Health Care and Food Assistance Programs " -- found that an estimated 5.7 million Medicaid enrollees and 4.7 million SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) recipients who worked full-time for 50 or more weeks in 2018 earned wages so low that they qualified for these federal benefits. In addition, an estimated 12 million wage-earning adults enrolled in Medicaid and 9 million wage-earning adults living in households receiving SNAP benefits worked at some point in 2018.

Upon the study's release Wednesday, Warren Gunnels, staff director and policy adviser for Sen. Sanders, tweeted: "The real looting in America is the Walton family becoming $63 billion richer during a pandemic, while paying wages so low that 14,541 of their workers in 9 states need food stamps -- all subsidized by U.S. taxpayers. Yes. The Walton family is the real welfare queen in America."

According to the Washington Post :, based on the GAO report:

Walmart was one of the top four employers of SNAP and Medicaid beneficiaries in every state. McDonald's was in the top five of employers with employees receiving federal benefits in at least nine states.

In the nine states that responded about SNAP benefits -- Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Nebraska, North Carolina, Tennessee and Washington -- Walmart was found to have employed about 14,500 workers receiving the benefit, followed by McDonald's with 8,780, according to Sanders's team. In six states that reported Medicaid enrollees, Walmart again topped the list, with 10,350 employees, followed by McDonald's with 4,600.

In Georgia, for example, Walmart employed an estimated 3,959 workers on Medicaid -- an estimated 2.1 percent of the total of non-elderly, non-disabled people in the state receiving the benefit. McDonald's was next on the list, employing 1,480 who received Medicaid, or 0.8 percent of the total of non-elderly, non-disabled people on the program. "

"At a time when huge corporations like Walmart and McDonald's are making billions in profits and giving their CEOs tens of millions of dollars a year, they're relying on corporate welfare from the federal government by paying their workers starvation wages," said Sanders in a statement. "That is morally obscene."

With the individual wealth of high-ranking executives and members of billionaire families like the Walton's, who own Walmart, soaring even as front-line, minimum wage employees and their families struggling to stay afloat amid the devastating Covid-19 pandemic, Sanders argues that the stark contrast should be a wakeup call for those who have refused to see how unjust and economically backward it is for the federal government, meaning taxpayers, to subsidize the cruel wages that massive profitable companies force their workers to accept.

"U.S. taxpayers should not be forced to subsidize some of the largest and most profitable corporations in America," said Sanders. "It is time for the owners of Walmart, McDonald's and other large corporations to get off of welfare and pay their workers a living wage."

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No one in this country should live in poverty," Sanders added. "No one should go hungry. No one should be unable to get the medical care they need. It is long past time to increase the federal minimum wage from a starvation wage of $7.25 an hour to $15, and guarantee health care to all Americans as a human right."


fwe'theewell , November 19, 2020 at 11:44 am

These looters at the top don't just rely on welfare for their workers: they also rely on government assistance in other ways, such as favorable tax treatment and other goodies to bring their boondoggles to town, and of course trillions in infusions/ giveaways like we saw this year. Not to mention golden parachutes in corporate bankruptcies, facilitated by the "way things are done."

AGKaiser , November 20, 2020 at 9:50 am

don't forget: Walmart and others also profit by the food stamps spent in their grocery and Medicaid in their pharmacy.

fwe'theewell , November 20, 2020 at 8:51 pm

Dang, yes!

nycTerrierist , November 19, 2020 at 12:40 pm

more galling, if that's possible, Alice Walton postures as a 'philanthropist'

artwashing ill-gotten gains as the benefactress of lavish vanity museum Crystal Bridges:

https://thebaffler.com/salvos/hoard-doeuvres

""There is no document of civilization which is not at the same time a document of barbarism," wrote Walter Benjamin. In precisely this vein, Walton's new Crystal Bridges museum offers American-made art to strategically cover up the ugly reality Walmart has created. Spanning the colonial era to the present, the exhibition space's fulsome celebration of the American spirit eulogizes the nation of shared confidence and abundance, sustainable mortgages, and worker dignity that Walmart has brutally demolished. The notion that Walton's supremely self-satisfied kunsthalle might serve as a balm, let alone a monument, to the market-battered American spirit is analogous to, say, Genghis Khan inviting survivors of his Mongol hordes to admire an installation of his plunder "

fwe'theewell , November 19, 2020 at 12:51 pm

This piece simply couldn't be written without a reference to Mongol hordes, of course.

Harry , November 19, 2020 at 4:59 pm

I suppose. Although no one relied on food stamps in the Great Khan Chingis' army.

Louis Fyne , November 19, 2020 at 1:30 pm

please don't forget Bezos even though he owns the WaPo

Same tactics. But I guess it's social acceptable to poo on the Waltons and Wal-Mart, but let us sweep Whole Foods and Amazon Prime under the rug

TimH , November 19, 2020 at 2:04 pm

Your 2nd para wins the straw man of the day award!

Louis Fyne , November 19, 2020 at 2:19 pm

As Amazon uses a network of subcontractors and contractors for everything for logistics to making toilet paper, all those employees will never show up on "official" stats re. Amazon.

it's called Lying with Statistics.
ymmv.

drumlin woodchuckles , November 19, 2020 at 3:31 pm

No, his second paragraph does not straw man. It merely invites us to widen the scope of our vision.

mileyvirus , November 20, 2020 at 12:56 pm

I agree, I did not interpret that as a straw man. Amazon is just as damnable as Walmart in terms of corporate welfare/employee wages

TimH , November 20, 2020 at 9:34 pm

I called it a straw man because " but let us sweep Whole Foods and Amazon Prime under the rug" suggested that the piece had done that, when they weren't mentioned.

Basil Pesto , November 20, 2020 at 11:20 pm

I believe that is what 'sweeping under the rug' entails.

(I get your point, and am actually
pretty sympathetic to it. couldn't resist the snark tho.)

Objective Ace , November 19, 2020 at 1:54 pm

An equally accurate storyline could be–"Workers in at least 9 states would be forced to live off even more government handouts without Walmart's employment".

Its tough to give companies grief here simply for paying what the market dictates. I'm all for going after the route of the problem–monopsony power–but noting the symptoms without actually raising awareness of the underlying problem is a distraction that keeps the plebs anger directed where it can't have much effect on the bigger picture. Being mad at Walmart instead of the government policy that has destroyed unions and made it easier/cheaper to move jobs overseas isn't serving middle America. Ironically, this distraction serves Walmart quite well. They actually champion hire minimum wages as it stifles competition

Its an interesting thought experiment to imagine absolutely no minimum wages but a UBI and universal healthcare so that no one needed a job just to survive. Then Walmart could pay its employees any low amount and no one would bat an eye (although I suspect wages actually wouldnt fall because walmart would lose its monopsony power)

fwe'theewell , November 19, 2020 at 2:23 pm

Government policy doesn't write itself: lobbyists guide the pen, and donors/ owners like Walmart pull the guides' puppet strings. "Personal responsibility" goes both ways.

To use yesterday's metaphor, I'd say that the PMC is like the human being co-driver in a "self"-driving car programmed by capital.

Objective Ace , November 19, 2020 at 3:40 pm

Definitely. And focusing on those issues (which are the actual issues) is better than focusing on the symptoms

drumlin woodchuckles , November 19, 2020 at 10:17 pm

Though if we can get people to admit they feel the symptoms by describing the symptoms, some of those people might then be ready and willing to hear about the disease which is giving them the symptoms.

fwe'theewell , November 20, 2020 at 8:52 pm

A good point

bulfinch , November 19, 2020 at 3:12 pm

Tempting as it might be to shape the narrative so that the Walmarts of the World appear more like hapless innovators, shrewdly capitalizing on a crooked playing field, it only works if you blinker yourself to the fact that the WotW have at least 8 of the ten fingers on the hands architecting those same playing fields.

Objective Ace , November 19, 2020 at 3:43 pm

Don't get me wrong–I'm not trying to say Walmart is hapless. Maybe I'm too cynical, but I actually think they're so shrewd they want you to focus on these press releases about how they pay so little. If the only thing that stems from that is increasing the minimum wage, they come out big time winners

drumlin woodchuckles , November 19, 2020 at 3:28 pm

Here's what the market dictates. " I can get 10 interns who will pay ME to LET them do your job. Now shut up and get back to work." The way to stop the Market Dictatorship of what wages will be is to impose a Legal Dictatorship on the market of what wages will be.

That's what the Wages and Hours Act was about to begin with. Make it a long-sentence hard-time felony to pay less or to take less. Abolish Free Trade in goods , services or people. That means Sealing the Borders to create zero immigration for as long as necessary to use the labor shortage to torture the employER class into raising wages and conditions upward. And to weld shut the "illegal immigration escape hatch" by which employERS ( including limousine liberals) pay less than the legally imposed minimum wage.

BlakeFelix , November 19, 2020 at 5:56 pm

Ya, I agree. Providing health care and making sure kids have food and education are subsidies that help businesses in a healthy way. And a UBI is a great idea as well! Toss in a Carbon tax, and you have my ideal policy.

Carolinian , November 19, 2020 at 11:12 pm

We've had this debate here for years so the above article is a bit of a recycled chestnut rather than an original thought.

And perhaps the answer for the "outrage" of those Walmart heirs is to reestablishment a meaningful inheritance tax since receiving billions through death is indeed an entitlement and not just for the Walmart heirs but also for plenty of mansion owners dotting the Northeast.

As for the company itself, yes it's a crappy and low paid place to work but they are hardly unique in that and one reason they top those mentioned lists, along with McDonalds, is that they are the number one and number two employers by number of employees in the country. And the reason they are so large is that they give their custormers what they want and can afford which cannot be said of so many competing looters that the author ignores.

There are lots of worse companies than Walmart but in the battle of the coastals versus the deplorables they have always made a fat juicy target for those who probably pay their hired help less than Walmart does its "associates."

Kirk Seidenbecker , November 19, 2020 at 2:34 pm

$15/Hr.? Thought it was more like $22/Hr. if minimum wage had kept pace with the rise in productivity.

https://www.cepr.net/documents/publications/min-wage1-2012-03.pdf

LC , November 19, 2020 at 9:28 pm

Right!?
I keep thinking about how at 15/hour people will lose what small piece of our social safety net that keeps them "making it". No family is purchasing health insurance on that increase. And really the few dollars per hour might not even make up the food benefits for a medium sized family. It's scary to get a raise where you end up worse off then before.
I mean I guess that's just the messed up reality when a whole bunch of household costs have been introduced or increased since policies using means testing (income and asset thresholds) to determine access. Actually I am sure ok not sure but it would make sense that these companies know exactly how much pay will kick these employees off benefits. So the employee community is less likely to make a fuss for small increases in pay which is the norm we have come to accept as workers. I'm all for real talk minimum/ living wages for the communities people actually live in.

Carla , November 20, 2020 at 6:38 am

That's why expanded, improved Medicare for All has to be implemented ALONG WITH the $15 (or $22) minimum wage.

Chauncey Gardiner , November 19, 2020 at 2:42 pm

"Corporate welfare queens" As others have noted, it isn't just Walmart and the Waltons. Trying to think of an appropriate term to describe the outcome of the decision by a majority of the US Supreme Court justices in the Citizens United case that not only enabled but tacitly encouraged One Percent, corporate, Wall Street, executive branch, legislators' and central bank behavior that, although still a cycle, has led to the opposite of a "virtuous cycle". "Morally obscene", corrupt and corruptible, and dishonorable are some descriptions of resultant behavior that come to mind. Too bad "The Swamp" wasn't drained, but has been further expanded and left both legacy political parties tarnished. It is said that a fish rots from the head down. That may be so, but that doesn't mean the rot cannot be allowed to set in. Follow the Money.

drumlin woodchuckles , November 19, 2020 at 3:21 pm

It turns out that when the TrumpAdmin used the phrase " the Swamp", what they strictly specifically and only meant were the impartial scientists at the various departments , bureaus and agencies. And they have done all they could to drain out the impartial scientists and stop the science. Which is all they ever meant by "drain the Swamp".

howseth , November 19, 2020 at 6:10 pm

Citizens United decision was a display of right wing insanity in all it's glory: I suppose insanity was either baked into the Constitution – or in 1780 – was not yet insanity?
Still can't get over that decision – ever since, my thought: term limits for friggen federal judges – and certainly the SCOTUS crew and throw in Congress and the Senate as well.

drumlin woodchuckles , November 19, 2020 at 10:21 pm

We have term limits for state officeholders in Michigan. All that mostly gets us is cynical amateurs who view their limited term as a chance to make contacts and audition for lobbying/law/etc. jobs after leaving office.

And the non-cynical amateurs who want to make things better are term-limited out of office just when they are finally learning where all the hidden levers, ropes, pulleys, secret trap doors are. Meanwhile, the lobbyists are not term limited.

Term limits for national office would make some things worse while making nothing better.

howseth , November 20, 2020 at 12:39 am

Ah, those immortal lobbyists! Term limits for politicians – combined with limits on lobbyists. One can dream. No? I'd like to try it. How can we actually drain the Swamp/
Oh. Crap. We have a Supreme Court. Freedom to Lobby infinitely. Freedom of bribery – I mean freedom of speech.
OK, So nothing can be done. Perhaps state office holders are a different thing then National politicians? (Yeah, maybe not) But Do you want to remove the term limits on our President then? No? I'd keep that limit.
Should we just resign ourselves to be stuck with this stuff till the Sun expands and swallows the USA? The future colony on Mars will have a better way? Not likely.

Carla , November 20, 2020 at 7:18 am

We have term limits. They're called elections. If/when there's something wrong with Democracy, fix Democracy. If/when there's something wrong with the Constitution, fix the Constitution

In most cases, artificial term limits don't do either. I would say there are two exceptions: limiting the presidency to two terms, and limiting the tenure of federal judges. In the latter case, 18-year term limits have been suggested, and that could be the right number, I'm not sure.

Now, with respect to fixing Democracy and the Constitution, for a First Step, please see HJR-48: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States providing that the rights extended by the Constitution are the rights of natural persons only -- oh, by the way, stating that money does not equal speech.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-joint-resolution/48/text

drumlin woodchuckles , November 19, 2020 at 3:18 pm

Every looting is real looting. Little looters in the streets are real looters. Big looters in the suites are real looters.

Since the big looting is currently legal in many cases, laws would have to be changed to stop the big looters looting. Its worth trying to do. It won't happen with Joemala and McConnell conspiring together to stop it from happening.

We need to elect a Red Gingrich minority of officeholders into the House and into the Senate. The "squad" could be the nucleus of that if they decide to center economic justice instead of critical race wokeness.

Burn down the House. And the Senate too.

Carla , November 20, 2020 at 7:19 am

"Joemala" -- Love it!

Watt4Bob , November 19, 2020 at 4:00 pm

If China didn't have the Waltons, they would have found another family glad to help them destroy our small retailers.

Our government gave tax breaks to corporations moving manufacturing to China, and to Walmart, and others peddling what used to be made here.

And now, to add insult to injury, they're telling you to " Learn to code" because the problem is, you don't have any employable skills.

polecat , November 19, 2020 at 6:26 pm

Congrease had/has the legal power to enact legislation with which to reign in what has become the early 21st century gilded age .. but they refuse to .. Nearly ALL of them have their dirty proboscii harpooning the lowly constituents who elected them ..too busy sucking any and all of plebian bodilyeconomic liquidity whilst paying deference to the know-it-all, BigTime-parasitic Oligarchic Brainbugs!

drumlin woodchuckles , November 19, 2020 at 10:23 pm

Abolish Free Trade and we could dry up the tidal wave of cheapest things which floats Walmart's boat to wealth and power.

sharonsj , November 20, 2020 at 12:57 pm

Not gonna happen. Apparently Biden will likely sign the TPP.

drumlin woodchuckles , November 21, 2020 at 2:24 am

If Biden does that, then Trump himself could very well win again if he runs in 2024. If that scenario plays out that way, I hope Trump picks Ivanka to be his VP running mate. That way, Ivanka would be on track to be America's first woman president. I just hope Hillary would live long enough to see that happen.

PeasantParty , November 19, 2020 at 4:38 pm

I used to dread the Friday news drops. The unemployment numbers, employed people in minimum wage jobs, workers at home working away, and major inflation in the grocery stores are hitting people extremely hard coming up to Holiday season. I really can't wait to see the Friday news drops now. Not just the Trump temper tantrum stuff, but the economic quips they make. Then what is totally mind blowing are the comments on social media. Some people that are not hurting much, or at all seem to think that all things are fine as wine in the rest of the country. I know this reply does not specifically comment on your article, but it is a wide view of the current situation.

Shiloh1 , November 19, 2020 at 6:19 pm

Walmart and Bezos are the symptoms of two generations of Congressional criminality.

Exhibit A: "I say to the Walton Family..,"

cynical observer , November 19, 2020 at 10:41 pm

With the computers and big data, the simplest solution is to claw back the benefits paid to the employees from the corporations, call it humanitarian tax.

But, it would be hard to find a lobbyist to write it, even harder to find a sponsor in the congress.

edmondo , November 19, 2020 at 11:30 pm

That would destroy the ability of these people to get jobs and to receive benefits.

I think you might have the cause and effect mixed up. In my state, anyone who gets SNAP benefits has to work at least 20 hours a week. These "bad" employers are the ones with flexible schedules and because the jobs are so crappy, they are readily available. Maybe it's not that WalMartb workers need benefits, it's that the benefits recipient needs WalMart and McDonalds.

sharonsj , November 20, 2020 at 1:00 pm

Every state is different. I just have to show proof of income (which I have, though I don't have a job). But the amount of SNAP you get varies widely. I am 150% of poverty level and the state of Pennsylvania just raised my monthly benefit to $16.50.

Ook , November 19, 2020 at 10:45 pm

Another way to put it: Walmart, McDonald's, Dollar General, and Amazon are really government stores with outsourced management and labor.
Socialism American-style.

drumlin woodchuckles , November 21, 2020 at 2:25 am

Life in the CSSA. ( Corporate Soviet States of America).

sharonsj , November 20, 2020 at 1:05 pm

Whenever I am in Walmart or any supermarket with automatic check out, I avoid automatic check out completely and only go to regular check out, no matter how long the line is. Automatic check out is a precursor to eventually firing all human cashiers. In my "larger" town, where I often end up in Walmart for the cheaper pet food, an Aldi's was built precisely opposite it, across the road. I heard an Aldi's employee saying they get paid better than Walmart. And lots of their prices are the same or better. So I will be spending a lot more time there.

Elaine Williams , November 21, 2020 at 10:37 am

This is not new news. We are too used to Walmart's superlow prices to do anything about it. This will continue long after I'm gone.

[Nov 21, 2020] Sidney Powell Claims That Dominion Is 'Shredding Documents' by Cortney O'Brien

Nov 21, 2020 | townhall.com

O'Connor pushed her about her claims that computer software used in the election, particularly Dominion Voting Systems, has been tainted, and he wondered how she would prove it. For starters, Powell said that her legal team has pictures of votes being manipulated in real-time.

"It is terrifying, and it is a huge national security issue," Powell said. "Why the Department of Justice and FBI have not done something, Dominion is closing its offices and moving. No doubt they're shredding documents. God only knows what else. More than 100 Dominion people have wiped any connection with Dominion off the internet."

She also claims that they have testimony from witnesses opening military ballots and trashing them if they were for Trump, and substitute ballots were put in for Biden.

"I'm essentially staking my personal and professional reputation on these allegations, and I have no hesitation from what I've seen in doing so," she noted. "In fact, I think it would be irresponsible if not criminal of me not to come forward with it."

She also says she would LOVE for Dominion to sue her over her allegations so she can conduct civil discovery. Powell also reacted to Fox News host Tucker Carlson's criticism of her on his program on Thursday night.

You can listen to their full interview below.

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[Nov 19, 2020] Polls are a tool of voter supression

In a free society you need to convince citizens of the government legitimacy.
Nov 19, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Tucker: We heard you. It's hard to trust anything. Here's what we know.

[Nov 19, 2020] Tucker- Big Tech s coordinated suppression amounts to a censorship cartel

Nov 19, 2020 | www.youtube.com

Tucker Carlson exposes American corporations for teaming up to censor political opponents.

Clare Breanna , 8 hours ago

Seems like they want to isolate everyone. Makes us all vulnerable.

jim hall , 8 hours ago

Electing buying is like having a Trojan horse coming into this White House


Kirk Patrick
, 5 hours ago

Republican Senators to Big Tech: "Why are you censoring Americans?" Democrat Senators to Big Tech: "Why don't you censor Americans more?"

[Nov 18, 2020] In Nevada, A Corrupt Cash-For-Votes Scheme Is Hiding In Plain Sight

Nov 18, 2020 | thefederalist.com

The mass mailing of unsolicited ballots is of course a recipe for fraud, even more so in a state where the voter rolls contain tens of thousands of people who haven't voted or updated their records in more than a decade. This is how you get dead people voting, as we reported here at The Federalist and as Tucker Carlson noted last week .

But there's another, less sensational but perhaps more consequential election scandal in Nevada that hasn't yet made headlines, even though it's been hiding in plain sight for weeks now. Under the guise of supposedly nonprofit, nonpartisan get-out-the-vote campaigns, Native American voter advocacy groups in Nevada handed out gift cards, electronics, clothing, and other items to voters in tribal areas, in many cases documenting the exchange of ballots for "prizes" on their own Facebook pages, sometimes even while wearing official Joe Biden campaign gear.

Simply put, this is illegal. Offering voters anything of value in exchange for their vote is a violation of federal election law , and in some cases punishable by up to two years in prison and as much as $10,000 in fines . That includes raffles, free food, free T-shirts, and so on.

... ... ...

There are about 60,000 eligible Native American voters in Nevada who make up about 3 percent of the state's total voting population. That's almost twice the current margin of Biden's current lead over President Trump in Nevada. So the Native American vote really does matter, it could even be decisive. It therefore matters how many Native American votes were influenced by an illegal cash-for-votes scheme, especially if funding for it came from American taxpayers via the NCAI.

It also matters because this didn't just happen in Nevada. Organizers there might have been more obvious about what they were doing, but there's evidence that similar efforts, including gift card and electronics giveaways, were undertaken in Native communities in South Dakota , Arizona , Wisconsin , Washington , Michigan , Idaho , Minnesota , and Texas .

All of this coordinated illegal activity, clearly designed to churn out votes for Biden and Democrats in tribal areas all across the country, is completely out in the open. You don't need special access or some secret source to find out about it. You just have be curious, look around, and report it.

Unfortunately, mainstream media outlets are not curious and refuse to report on any of this stuff. What's described above is an egregious and totally transparent vote-buying scheme in Nevada that was likely undertaken on a similar scale across nearly a dozen other states, but you won't read about it in The New York Times, or hear about it on CNN.

That's not because the story is unimportant, but because, for the media establishment, it's inconvenient. No wonder these groups didn't try to hide what they were doing.

[Nov 18, 2020] For 40 years, we've all been bleating the mantras of neoliberalism which were promoted as The Natural Order of Things, but are in fact just a model, one of many. And which failed in 2008

Notable quotes:
"... And, objectively, how is the neoliberal model doing? For starters, there is so much money around that doesn't know what to do with itself, that the price of money (interest rates) has never been lower. Ever. Basic supply and demand. ..."
Nov 16, 2020 | off-guardian.org

XXX, Nov 16, 2020 8:28 AM Reply to Jacques

We really need to accept that we may not know what we think we know. For 40 years, we've all been bleating the mantras of neoliberalism which were promoted as The Natural Order of Things, but are in fact just a model, one of many.

And, objectively, how is the neoliberal model doing? For starters, there is so much money around that doesn't know what to do with itself, that the price of money (interest rates) has never been lower. Ever. Basic supply and demand.

At the same time, neoliberal governments, citing lack of money, have imposed austerity measures on the working class, cutting services and support to such an extent that serious social problems have arisen.

The reason the governments are short of cash is because they have continually reduced the share of GDP that goes into public coffers.

Blind Freddy can see the resultant inequality is a highly undesirable state of affairs, generating social unrest and unstable markets. Bizarrely, it is also contrary to the most basic of economic truisms: give poor people money and they spend it right away, generating a ripple of economic activity that reverberates through the real economy.

But according to neoliberalism, what we have here is perfectly fine because it accords with the model. And then the High Priests move in and blow smoke over the whole thing with incantations of why this must be so, again according to the model, which they themselves drew up to coordinate the way we do things. And of course, they believe their economic theory is the Natural Order of Things.

The pandemic has blown the lid off a few of those mantras. It'll take fifty years to decarbonise? We advanced decades in a few weeks. There is no magic money tree? Yes, there is and you just used it. Giving poor people money undermines the economy? No, it doesn't – you've just proved it. Government debt is a drain on the economy? Not if it stimulates activity. Tax is an expense that needs to be curtailed? No, it's an investment in the economy for everyone.

There are so many things we think we know and many of them are nonsense. We need to take the opportunity this disruption presents and design a society for humans, not for corporations.

Jacques , Nov 16, 2020 9:13 AM Reply to Andrew Thompson

Sure. Now, all we have to do is to figure out how to put that into practice. The making of society for humans, not for m-effers.

[Nov 17, 2020] November 14, 2020 at 5:03 am

Highly recommended!
Notable quotes:
"... "They've got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side, but no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen." ..."
"... we can see that 2016 candidate Trump was relatively Trumpist but President Trump was less so. Salaries for the bottom 25% of workers did have the highest rate in increase during his term (through 2019). But in 2020, candidate Trump almost completely rejected Trumpism and ran as an ruling class establishment stooge. ..."
"... Trumpism is not a revolutionary ideology in the correct sense of the term. It is an incrementalist approach that seeks to better the material conditions of the working class but within the current capitalist power structure. ..."
"... The ruling class strategy in the US is to decorate with masks of "diversity" the ugly visages of class dominance. Thus Obama's and soon Kamala's pro-ruling class policies cannot be criticized for fear of being abused as a "racist". ..."
"... Trumpism relies on labor markets to improve the material conditions of the working class. A tight labor market necessarily transfers wealth from the rich to the poor in the form of decreased profits for the rich through increased salaries for the poor. ..."
"... Trump the ruler was presented with the greatest gift a border-loving Trumpist politician could ever ask for: Covid-19. But instead of exploiting this crisis like Viktor Orbán did in Hungary, Trump stabbed Trumpism in the back by turning himself into a useless libertarian during the crisis by refusing for example to push a law that requires home manufacturing of all critical supplies and in never closing the borders properly. He acted like a narcissistic clown in the early days of the crisis and deserves to lose just for that reason. ..."
"... So US racism is fully owned and perpetuated by the ruling class: wealthy oligarchs (including Trump), the media, Wall Street, CIA, FBI, the military industrial complex, multi-national corporations, Silicone Valley Tech, Hollywood, etc. Where there is power there is racism, where there is powerlessness there may be bigotry but not racism. The above lineup of ruling class racists, except for Trump, is the Biden coalition. The ruling class goal is to place an "enlightened person" mask over naked and rapacious ruling class greed and oppression. ..."
"... Under Biden, globalization will once again increase the pace and amplitude of the immiseration of the working class, resistance to the dominant economic paradigm will only grow on both the progressive left and the popular right. ..."
"... In a sense the Biden presidency will be a reactionary movement in that they will be trying to restore the pre-Trumpism political order. This will only further cement the soundness of Trumpism as an ideology. ..."
"... The bottom has no political or economic leverage, and isn't navigating to a position of strength. For example, the "bottom" is currently accepting placebo identity-politics as pacifier. The "bottom" is still searching for an "easy button" solution rather than taking a deeper look at oneself and the layout of the chess board at the macro level. ..."
"... Within an environment of worker scarcity, automation is a positive trend and helps lessen inflationary pressures. The problem with the US is that there is not enough automation because of cheap and docile labor. Compare a meat packing plant in Denmark which is highly automated compared to a US plant, which is packed to the brim with cheap imported labor. Much of the Covid crisis in the US and UK is brought about by sweatshop-style working conditions. ..."
"... It's grotesque to learn that Kamila Harris's relatives are connected to Uber/Lyft. Prop. 22 getting approved in California is another sign of propaganda/big money effectiveness ..."
"... Trumpism stands in opposition to globalization; whose goal is worker abundance which necessarily drives wages down and increases oligarchic wealth. US led imperialism, especially in the Middle East is also a necessary feature of globalization. ..."
"... Here too I would make a modification. Neo-liberalism and globalization aren't about worker "abundance" but rather worker "disposability." Again, if the idea is to create an abundance of workers, driving down market share, then why make finding work so complicated? Why be against strong education systems which would create new workers. Why shut down factories here in the US only to open them in Korea? Why lock up so many Americans for petty offensive, removing them from the willing work force. ..."
"... I would argue that the heart of neo-liberalism is a class structure that places "the establishment" as not just important in the grand scheme of things, but completely indispensable to an individual. And part of that self-aggrandizement is the subjection of every one else. "I am worth more than a thousand of you." Thus, why I must get 2-million-dollar bonus (even after bankrupting the company) and a post on the new re-org chart while everyone else gets a pink slip and watch their hard-earned pensions disappear in chapter 11 proceedings. ..."
"... But it does speak to how disposable workers are to upper management. You are hired for X, and when X is done you are automatically laid off. Why would you waste time giving such an employee training of any sort? Let alone benefits or perks. ..."
"... What is inexplicable is when unions attack Trumpist attempts at macro-scarcity through the use of national borders. A united Union/Trumpist front is required against ruling class interests. Struggling for worker scarcity does not mean one "hates" the workers the ruling class is importing in order to create worker abundance. ..."
"... Neoliberalism is Capitalism's attempt to remove the fetters on profits that exist within the power of a nation-state. Worker abundance is just one of many Neoliberal goals. Borders are a huge fetter to capitalism's basic mission of maximizing profit by producing commodifies with the cheapest labor and selling them to the wealthiest consumers. ..."
"... This is a very important aspect of precarity. Reducing work competition for jobs to increase wages is only half the job, stopping financial predators is the other half, imo ..."
"... Without immigration or outsourcing or even automation, the predators will find still other ways to break labor. We are seeing it with identity politics. ..."
"... I would argue that Bernie and Tulsi are "Trumpism adjacent" in the larger sense of Trumpism. ..."
"... If Trumpism as an ideology is going to flourish, Tulsi in particular will play a critical role in this. The simplest way to see this is that when the ruling class smears someone as a "Russian asset" what they are really doing is recognizing them as a Trumpist threat. ..."
"... precarious (adj.) 1640s, a legal word, "held through the favor of another," from Latin precarius "depending on favor, pertaining to entreaty, obtained by asking or praying," from prex (genitive precis) "entreaty, prayer" (from PIE root *prek- "to ask, entreat"). ..."
"... The notion of "dependent on the will of another" led to the extended sense "risky, dangerous, hazardous, uncertain" (1680s), but this was objected to. "No word is more unskillfully used than this with its derivatives. It is used for uncertain in all its senses; but it only means uncertain, as dependent on others " [Johnson]. Related: Precariously; precariousness. ..."
"... Questiones Disputatae ..."
"... contra, sed contra, ..."
"... When investigating the nature of anything, one should make the same kind of analysis as he makes when he reduces a proposition to certain self-evident principles." ..."
"... Vista Hermosa residents like Luna are troubled by a 2019 environmental rollback by the state, AB1197, that exempts homeless housing developments in the City of Los Angeles from the mandates of the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA). Arguably California's broadest environmental law, CEQA requires builders to assess the environmental impacts of new development and find ways to avoid or mitigate them. ..."
"... The political will to rollback CEQA has continued into 2020. In January, Assemblyman Miguel Santiago, who represents District 53 bordering Vista Hermosa, introduced a new piece of legislation, AB1907, to further expand CEQA exemptions to now include all affordable housing. ..."
"... "Trump WON! Trump WON! Trump WON! Trump WON! " ..."
"... primary-winning ..."
"... "a giant suction pump had by 1929 to 1930 drawn into a few hands an increasing proportion of currently produced wealth. This served then as capital accumulations. But by taking purchasing power out of the hands of mass consumers, the savers denied themselves the kind of effective demand for their products which would justify reinvestment of the capital accumulation in new plants. In consequence as in a poker game where the chips were concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, the other fellows could stay in the game only by borrowing. When the credit ran out, the game stopped" ..."
Nov 17, 2020 | www.nakedcapitalism.com

We have to carefully distinguish between two very different concepts, both based on the word "Trump". First there is "Trumpism" which is an ideology. The overarching idea behind Trumpism is to make the GOP a working-class oriented party. The key policy aims of Trumpism are worker scarcity and anti-imperialism. Worker scarcity is achieved through immigration restriction and protectionist trade policies. So together, we have the Trumpist Trinity, anti-immigration, trade restriction, and anti-imperialism. This is the ideology that Trump ran on and rode to victory in 2016. This is the idea. Unions exist to create micro-worker scarcity. Borders can be used to create macro-worker scarcity which is far more powerful. And E-verify can be far more effective than a bombastic wall.

Trumpism stands in opposition to globalization; whose goal is worker abundance which necessarily drives wages down and increases oligarchic wealth. US led imperialism, especially in the Middle East is also a necessary feature of globalization. Invade the World / Invite the World.

The US has always featured two political parties that serve ruling class interests; Huey Long described it thusly,

"They've got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side, but no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen."

Trumpism attempts to force one group of waiters to get their grub from the working class' kitchen. This is obviously an ambitious goal.

Now comes a crucial distinction. In addition to the ideology of "Trumpism" there is "Trump", the man and his brand. At best there is an extremely tenuous relationship between Trumpism and Trump. Now to some extent this is natural as ideas never remain pure for long when poured into the cauldron of reality. With that in mind, we can see that 2016 candidate Trump was relatively Trumpist but President Trump was less so. Salaries for the bottom 25% of workers did have the highest rate in increase during his term (through 2019). But in 2020, candidate Trump almost completely rejected Trumpism and ran as an ruling class establishment stooge.

Now of course Trump is an oligarch and so he is a member of the ruling class. But within oligarchy, the only people who can challenge the existing order are oligarchs. He committed massive class treason in 2016 in order to serve his narcissistic need for recognition and power. In no way should Trump be idealized as altruistically caring about the working class. Trumpism was nothing more than a means to an end. Trump's end is and always will be Trump, not Trumpism per se. But none the less Trump exploited and brought to life Trumpism and his motives for doing so are irrelevant.

Trumpism is not a revolutionary ideology in the correct sense of the term. It is an incrementalist approach that seeks to better the material conditions of the working class but within the current capitalist power structure. It posits a class struggle ideological superstructure which is radical opposition to the globalist ruling classes insistence on an identitarian (politics of race, sex, etc) perspective. The ruling class strategy in the US is to decorate with masks of "diversity" the ugly visages of class dominance. Thus Obama's and soon Kamala's pro-ruling class policies cannot be criticized for fear of being abused as a "racist".

Trumpism's non-revolutionary aspect is similar to social democracy, as was championed by Bernie Sanders in 2016 (in 2020 Bernie unfortunately fell to the dark side of identitarian politics, which are necessarily the enemy of class politics and the most effective class warfare tool in the ruling class' tool box). The key difference is that Trumpism relies on labor markets to improve the material conditions of the working class. A tight labor market necessarily transfers wealth from the rich to the poor in the form of decreased profits for the rich through increased salaries for the poor.

In fact far from there being any contradiction between Trumpism and social democracy there is a mutual dependence between them. The public education, health, and support institutions of social democracy are can only be supported and revitalized by a prosperous working class. The key idea of Trumpism is that the state asserts its borders to create labor scarcity. The great problem of Trumpism is that the state is everywhere a tool of ruling class oppression. Borders are the battle lines of the struggle.

Trump the ruler was presented with the greatest gift a border-loving Trumpist politician could ever ask for: Covid-19. But instead of exploiting this crisis like Viktor Orbán did in Hungary, Trump stabbed Trumpism in the back by turning himself into a useless libertarian during the crisis by refusing for example to push a law that requires home manufacturing of all critical supplies and in never closing the borders properly. He acted like a narcissistic clown in the early days of the crisis and deserves to lose just for that reason.

The ruling class response to Trumpism is identitarian politics: noble ruling class lords screaming that the dirty peasants are racist. What the US ruling class must always do is project their racism onto the peasants, who white or black, both suffer economically from racial oppression. Mao Tse-Tung gave this astute analysis of US racism:

In the final analysis, national struggle is a matter of class struggle. Among the whites in the United States, it is only the reactionary ruling circles who oppress the Negro people . They can in no way represent the workers, farmers, revolutionary intellectuals and other enlightened persons who comprise the overwhelming majority of the white people. At present, it is the handful of imperialists headed by the United States, and their supporters, the reactionaries in different countries, who are oppressing, committing aggression against and menacing the overwhelming majority of the nations and peoples of the world. We are in the majority and they are in the minority.

So US racism is fully owned and perpetuated by the ruling class: wealthy oligarchs (including Trump), the media, Wall Street, CIA, FBI, the military industrial complex, multi-national corporations, Silicone Valley Tech, Hollywood, etc. Where there is power there is racism, where there is powerlessness there may be bigotry but not racism. The above lineup of ruling class racists, except for Trump, is the Biden coalition. The ruling class goal is to place an "enlightened person" mask over naked and rapacious ruling class greed and oppression.

Under Biden, globalization will once again increase the pace and amplitude of the immiseration of the working class, resistance to the dominant economic paradigm will only grow on both the progressive left and the popular right. Previously elections in the US were between center left and center right factions fighting for the right to serve the ruling class. Looking at 2020 from a bird's eye perspective, roughly speaking the Biden coalition is most progressives, the center left, and many elements of the center right (elements close to the Bush family). The Trump coalition is portions of the center right and the popular right. The ruling class was going to be fine whatever the result, but a Biden presidency constrained by a GOP Senate is ideal in some ways to the ruling class.

A key strategic objective of the ruling class is to keep the left and right at each other's throats. Trump helped them achieve this rigid politically binary goal despite occasionally flirting with political fluidity during the 2016 campaign where his similarities to Bernie Sanders were unmistakable. In contrast, anti-ruling class progressives and popularists have to find a way to combine their forces and energy in opposition to the ruling class and not in a pointless stalemate of playing "socialists" vs; "fascists", a battle whose only possible winner is the ruling class.

One of the most interesting outcomes of the 2020 election is the specter of Latinos embracing Trumpism. From an economic point of view this makes total sense. Immigration restriction will benefit first and foremost the material conditions of the Latino working class. Also Trump's macho populist persona works well within Latino culture. Not to mention many Latinos despise blacks and so the whole BLM phenomenon helped push Latinos onto the Trump train.

California is a now a de facto one-party state but that conditions are ripe for the rise of a popularist yet macho, Latino based, Trumpist style political faction to oppose the cosmopolitan urban Democratic hegemony. Back in the 60's, Cesar Chavez was endeavoring to increase the QUALITY of Hispanic life in the US by increasing the salaries of farm workers through a strategy of worker scarcity.

Ruling class institutions, threatened by the potential of having portions of their wealth transferred to poor peasants, created an organization called "La Raza" as an alternative to Chavez. La Raza wanted QUANTITY, they wanted more and more Latinos to build up their base of political power.

And all the better if these Latinos stayed poor: not only do their ruling class paymasters stay happy, this would also keep the Latino masses dependent on their identitarian political leaders. So one of the key outcomes of the 2020 election is that in ever larger numbers, Latinos are rejecting Quantity of Latinos and opting for Latino Quality of life.

And so in order to further Trumpism, Trump, who is acting as a fetter upon it, must go. In a sense the Biden presidency will be a reactionary movement in that they will be trying to restore the pre-Trumpism political order. This will only further cement the soundness of Trumpism as an ideology.

But Trump as a leader is a much more mixed bag. New Trumpists will arise, for example Tucker Carlson or podcaster Joe Rogan. 2024 will be a great year for Trumpism because this time Trump will not be running it; and that may allow many progressives to join the train, especially in light of how much hippy punching they are about to endure from the coming Biden synthesis of Neolibs and Neocons.


Tom Pfotzer , November 14, 2020 at 8:49 am

Nice essay. I especially liked the differentiation between Trump and Trumpism.

I'd be interested to hear what your vision of the platform (main objectives) might be for this new Trumpism party.

I still question whether top-down politics of any stripe is really going to address the underlying economic and biosphere issues we're facing. Why? Because:

  1. the top-down political economy is dedicated to maintaining status quo (with emphasis on status & wealth), and
  2. the bottom-up people who want things to change seem to want someone else to do all the changing
  3. most of our big problems arise from the disconnect between what we must do as a species in order to survive and what we're currently, actually doing as individuals

When a Zen-like party emerges, which encourages its adherents to understand themselves, seek "right" action (accurate situational analysis yielding a well-crafted strategy), and do right action, I'll get interested in politics again. For now, we're just treading water in a strong current that's headed to a bad place.

The Zen plan is no panacea, though. That path involves great risk (e.g. lots of failures) and hard work. Pay's not that good, either.

Kasia , November 14, 2020 at 10:02 am

Thank you for your comment!

Top-down vs. bottom-up are not necessarily contradictory and can in successive waves contribute to social change in an increasingly self-reinforcing manner. Bottom-up change influences top-down change (often through the opposition forces' malignant top-down overreaction) which intensifies bottom-down change: so on and so on.

I would describe the main objectives for Trumpist party as the development of "Green Trumpism". The moral imperatives associated with the climate crisis would be used as a catalyst for Trumpist labor scarcity through the means of a Green Reindustrialization. The process of globalization is one where production is severed from consumption. Production is moved to cheap labor countries with terrible environmental standards. Capitalists produce dirtier commodities while increasing their profits. This process must be reversed. If the first world wants to consume then they must produce.

First world population growth is a critical factor in exasperating the climate crisis. All of this growth can be linked to immigration, usually people from low consuming nations moving to high consumption nations. These migration flows must be reversed.

Globalization requires imperialist power to enforce the safe transport of commodities produced in far flung regions of the world. As globalization declines, so will necessarily US imperialism.

This article "Towards a Green Folkhem" influenced much of my thinking on Trumpism, although it is not framed that way in the article

Tom Pfotzer , November 14, 2020 at 11:56 am

yes, bottom-up and top-down would interact, if only the bottom-up was happening. It's not.

The bottom has no political or economic leverage, and isn't navigating to a position of strength. For example, the "bottom" is currently accepting placebo identity-politics as pacifier. The "bottom" is still searching for an "easy button" solution rather than taking a deeper look at oneself and the layout of the chess board at the macro level.

Using the climate crisis as driver for econ change is the Great Hope, and the top 1% is hip to the game. They have and will continue to block meaningful change. Keep in mind that just stopping the daily damage to the environment will render much (most) of our industrial and household infrastructure obsolete. Nobody's ready to take that on, and that's the implication of actually effective Green policy.

Right now, across the political spectrum, "green" consists of "what's convenient" instead of "what's necessary". This is the individual-ethic bankruptcy I've alluded to elsewhere: it's endemic from top 1% to bottom-est of the bottom.

You made a few statements I don't agree with:

"Capitalists have dirtier / more destructive production than (others)." 1st world production is cleaner than in other places, and that 2nd and 3rd world production often happens in non-capitalistic scenarios. Dirty production happens where dirty production is tolerated.

Another statement you made: "globalization has to stop / be reversed". Dunno about that one. Globalization has resulted in production moving to cheapest-input locations. Like China. Globalization will stop only when cost-of-inputs is leveled, and we're decades away from that, and a whole lot more pain for the Developed world. Slow barge, that one.

Your essay doesn't address the effect of automation on household or societal economics. Automation is not a reversible trend, and it's accelerating. The focus on the "where" of production might not yield the HH economic benefits you're hoping for.

Some fairly different strategies need to be developed at the household level in order to address the problems we face. Would you consider using the household as the pivot-point of your new econ strategy rather than using industry and government?

Kasia , November 14, 2020 at 2:50 pm

Americans can exert more power with their consumption choices than their choices at the ballot box. So certainly the household is a crucial pivot point.

Green tariffs can overnight level cost-of-inputs. Climate change provides a powerful moral incentive to co-locate US consumption and production.

Within an environment of worker scarcity, automation is a positive trend and helps lessen inflationary pressures. The problem with the US is that there is not enough automation because of cheap and docile labor. Compare a meat packing plant in Denmark which is highly automated compared to a US plant, which is packed to the brim with cheap imported labor. Much of the Covid crisis in the US and UK is brought about by sweatshop-style working conditions.

The question on automation is that somehow "the people" have to have a slice of the profits and thus benefit from the process. A Yang-style UBI would need to go hand in hand with increased automation.

I agree with the uselessness of the current Green movement. It is typically just used as a tool to attack perceived opponents. But a Green Trumpism would no doubt both address the climate crisis and help alleviate economic inequalities.

howseth , November 14, 2020 at 4:36 pm

"The ruling class was going to be fine whatever the result, but a Biden presidency constrained by a GOP Senate is ideal in some ways to the ruling class."

Yeah – there will be a lot of Biden disappointment amongst Us the majority – this Precariat. A true Green New Deal would offer lots of employment opportunities here in the USA – and would seem ideal for either party to embrace. Divided government won't achieve it – the ruling class – and both parties – with short sighted heads up their asses won't embrace it anyhow.

Regardless, Trumpism seems a fail except for a vast mob angry/scared/confused voters- and some tax break aficionados. It's not just Biden/Harris won't deliver – but Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Ted Cruz, or whichever clever one runs in 2024 , won't deliver either, and Trumps wall is a fiasco. If still effective propaganda..?

It's grotesque to learn that Kamila Harris's relatives are connected to Uber/Lyft. Prop. 22 getting approved in California is another sign of propaganda/big money effectiveness – and We the People being tricked once again. I got lot's of mail showing photos and quotes of regular working people embracing Prop 22 VOTE YES! save our jobs – it passed easily.

Overall: Still glad to see Trump himself out of the White House – the clever SOB.

Code Name D , November 14, 2020 at 7:33 pm

This is a good essay. But I still have a few issues with it.

The key policy aims of Trumpism are worker scarcity and anti-imperialism. Worker scarcity is achieved through immigration restriction and protectionist trade policies. So together, we have the Trumpist Trinity, anti-immigration, trade restriction, and anti-imperialism. This is the ideology that Trump ran on and rode to victory in 2016. This is the idea. Unions exist to create micro-worker scarcity. Borders can be used to create macro-worker scarcity which is far more powerful. And E-verify can be far more effective than a bombastic wall.

I would modify this to say "worker exclusivity", that only a narrow class of workers can be tapped for specific terms of employment. When discussing the subject with those on the rights, they are far more concerned about immigrants "taking their jobs" then they are of building a scarcity of workers to gain a market share over employers. Let's not forget that "Trumpian" is still fervently anti-union, even though this would be a good way of generating "micro scarcity" as you put it. Being anti-union would be counterproductive to worker scarcity.

Assuredly, "worker scarcity" makes a certain degree of sense. And I can easily see how you came to that conclusion. But I fear you still give "trumpisim" too much credit in that they have specific goals that they are attempting to achieve, and thus conceive of logical steps to that goal.

I would argue that the right doesn't have goals in the same perspective as we on the left may seem them. What we might think of as "goals" are better described as ideological commandments that must be obeyed at all cost, and ignoring all consequence. As you noted yourself. Trump's wall would do little to impede immigration. A better e-verify system would be far more effective. So why ignore e-verify while being completely for the wall? Because the wall is a visible simple of defiance against immigration that conservatives can march back and forth in front of brandishing their 2nd amendment right. You can't do that for a government policy.

Trumpism stands in opposition to globalization; whose goal is worker abundance which necessarily drives wages down and increases oligarchic wealth. US led imperialism, especially in the Middle East is also a necessary feature of globalization.

Here too I would make a modification. Neo-liberalism and globalization aren't about worker "abundance" but rather worker "disposability." Again, if the idea is to create an abundance of workers, driving down market share, then why make finding work so complicated? Why be against strong education systems which would create new workers. Why shut down factories here in the US only to open them in Korea? Why lock up so many Americans for petty offensive, removing them from the willing work force.

I would argue that the heart of neo-liberalism is a class structure that places "the establishment" as not just important in the grand scheme of things, but completely indispensable to an individual. And part of that self-aggrandizement is the subjection of every one else. "I am worth more than a thousand of you." Thus, why I must get 2-million-dollar bonus (even after bankrupting the company) and a post on the new re-org chart while everyone else gets a pink slip and watch their hard-earned pensions disappear in chapter 11 proceedings.

Of course, unlike much of the right, neo-liberalism does have a goal-oriented methodology. So, creating "worker abundance" to force down individual worker market share certainly makes sense. But is it true? It doesn't capture the full cynicism of typical neo-liberal thinking. For creating so much worker abundance, plenty of neo-liberal aligned employers still managed to complain about worker "allocations" (the idea that certain employment sectors face chronic worker scarcity.) Indeed, current "plug-n-play" employment patterns have made filling many positions nearly impossible because no one ever has the right qualifications for a specific job without training. I have seen engineering jobs go empty for years because they can't find "prior experience for proprietary development project." (face palm.).

But it does speak to how disposable workers are to upper management. You are hired for X, and when X is done you are automatically laid off. Why would you waste time giving such an employee training of any sort? Let alone benefits or perks.

Kasia , November 15, 2020 at 6:16 am

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I will attempt to respond to your points.

Ruling class elements of the GOP attack unions in order to minimize worker micro-scarcity.

What is inexplicable is when unions attack Trumpist attempts at macro-scarcity through the use of national borders. A united Union/Trumpist front is required against ruling class interests. Struggling for worker scarcity does not mean one "hates" the workers the ruling class is importing in order to create worker abundance.

This is to accept the ruling elite's identitarian frame, which boils down to: class struggle is racist. What this basically boils down to is that the ruling class is benevolent and kind and loves purely altruistically to import little brown workers while evil workers hate them because they are taking their jobs. Oligarchs + cheap labor immigrants = good. Workers militating for their class interests = bad. The key goal for Trumpism is to flip these equations.

Worker abundance necessarily means job scarcity from the worker's point of view. This makes workers desperate and willing to accept lower wages. This has been happening for the last 40 years at least since the end of the Cold War, if not a little sooner. Worker scarcity means job abundance, from the worker's point of view. This means plenty of options because management has to bid up salaries to attract workers.

Neoliberalism is Capitalism's attempt to remove the fetters on profits that exist within the power of a nation-state. Worker abundance is just one of many Neoliberal goals. Borders are a huge fetter to capitalism's basic mission of maximizing profit by producing commodifies with the cheapest labor and selling them to the wealthiest consumers.

Nation-states can also impose regulations (environmental, worker, etc) which also limit capitalist profit. Free trade allows corporations to relocate factories to nations with the lowest salaries, environmental and worker protections. For those jobs that cannot be transferred, Prop 22 is the thin edge of the neoliberal wedge that is constraining the nation-state from protecting workers.

flora , November 14, 2020 at 8:59 pm

I understand restricting immigration and anti-globalism as a means to increase US workers leverage in raising wages in jobs and in better political representation. This addresses the physical world of work.

Left unaddressed, and equally important imo, is the fact that US business and economy is now largely financialized; much of the greatest wealth comes from unregrulated or restrained predatory financial practices, from rentierism, from tolls and fines and fees.

This financialization is every bit as important as the physical conditions you list in the rise in precarity, maybe even more so at this time. How, for instance, would only physical restrictions have changed the financial outcomes of the 2008 mortgage bank frauds and financial crisis, the outcomes of ratings agencies giving bogus ratings to junk bonds, changed the exorbitant rise in medicine prices, etc?

This is a very important aspect of precarity. Reducing work competition for jobs to increase wages is only half the job, stopping financial predators is the other half, imo

O could have stopped the bank predators in 2009-10, but chose not to. In his own words:

https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1327776212492701697

fwe'zy , November 14, 2020 at 10:08 pm

+++
Without immigration or outsourcing or even automation, the predators will find still other ways to break labor. We are seeing it with identity politics.

Beware of the UBI: it simply greases the wheels for more privatization instead of public goods and infrastructure, similar to how vouchers and charters gut a public school system.

Kasia , November 15, 2020 at 7:37 am

Financialization is the necessary result of globalization's destruction of Fordism: which is the interdependent role of worker and consumer. In order to increase profits, Ford doubled his workers' salaries so that could serve him as consumers as well as workers.

Globalization seeks to increase profits even further by disassociating the worker and the consumer. Work is off-shored to low wage countries, whose leaders intentionally damp down local consumption. This paradoxically means the soon to be immiserated western worker is still called upon to play the role of global consumer of last resort.

At the same time, huge waves of profits are washing over Wall Street. And so temporary speculative bubbles are created that serve two purposes. First false wave of prosperity brought on for example by a real estate boom tamps down any worker resistance towards the new economic order. Secondly the seemingly "free money" created by speculation allow western consumption to continue.

So necessarily a Green Reindustrialization will force Wall Street to stop chasing speculative squirrels and to instead concentrate on financing the new clean plant that will help alleviate the climate crisis.

Reverb , November 14, 2020 at 9:44 pm

Rogan likes to do long form interviews across the political spectrum, but he has consistently been a fan of Bernie and Tulsi. Author is Confusing the medium with the message. Not the same.

Kasia , November 15, 2020 at 5:56 am

I would argue that Bernie and Tulsi are "Trumpism adjacent" in the larger sense of Trumpism.

If Trumpism as an ideology is going to flourish, Tulsi in particular will play a critical role in this. The simplest way to see this is that when the ruling class smears someone as a "Russian asset" what they are really doing is recognizing them as a Trumpist threat.

Trumpism in its highest form will mean a reconciliation of the non-identitarian left and right. For example, white identitarians like Richard Spencer have abandoned Trumpism.

Altandmain , November 15, 2020 at 6:03 am

Awesome comment!

I think that one of the most important considerations is that there needs to be a coalition of sorts – between the working class Trumpian base and the Left (primarily Generation Y and X). It shares one thing, they are both victims of the Establishment, neoliberals, and urgently need change.

One image has always been very important to me. Note the distribution of socially conservative, economically left wing voters.

https://www.voterstudygroup.org/assets/i/reports/Graphs-Charts/1101/figure2_drutman_73d3873f90a694512aeeb56e0ab92cfa.png

It comes from here: https://www.voterstudygroup.org/publication/political-divisions-in-2016-and-beyond

The other important issue is this one:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/10/marshall-auerback-democrats-globalization-dilemma.html

The major challenge facing Democrats today is that race, gender, identity politics, and religion appear to trump economics, at least as far as politically engaged primary voters go. The old-line Democrats were an economic liberal party with socially conservative and socially liberal wings (the social liberals, in fact, were in a minority). The new Democrats are a socially liberal party with an economic conservative wing (neoliberals) and a progressive economic wing. They all agree on social issues. They are loath to compromise on open borders (which is what the existing immigration dysfunction de facto gives us), transgender bathrooms, making room for pro-life members, or gay married couples' wedding cakesbecause those are the only issues that hold their economic right and economic left together.

I don't think that the Democratic Party in its current form is viable for the left.

So the price of a new New Deal majority would be to let Democrats welcome abortion critics and opponents of mass immigration, so long as they favored a higher minimum wage, less "synthetic immigration," and a pause on globalization (which facilitates international labor arbitrage). In the words of John Judis:

I think that we would end up with the following compromise.

1. The economically left, culturally right agrees to accept global warming, end the wars, and "socialism" like universal healthcare), and to offer legal immigrants along with minorities a shot at the middle class
2. The economically left, culturally left agrees to compromise on immigration, globalization (think put a strong emphasis on re-industrialization and de-financialization), and social issues (think abortion, guns, defend the police, etc).

Interestingly, the American Conservative has an article lambasting Trump as well.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/for-trumpism-but-skeptical-of-trump/

Maybe that's a good sign.

marym , November 15, 2020 at 7:39 am

"The ruling class goal is to place an "enlightened person" mask over naked and rapacious ruling class greed and oppression."

Maybe the same can be said of placing a "socially conservative" mask. We need to be cautious in positing the possiblility of a multi-ethnic, multi-racial conservative movement that somehow manages to be "nationalist, anti-cosmopolitan, anti-immigration" but still serves the interests of the multi-racial, multi-ethnic, religiously diverse, working class populace that's already here.

Kasa , November 15, 2020 at 9:51 am

Implementing worker scarcity will necessarily further the economic interests of the multi-racial, multi-ethnic, religiously diverse, working class populace that's already here.

Just as implementing worker abundance necessarily furthers the economic interests of the multi-racial, multi-ethnic, religiously diverse, RULING class populace that's already here.

fwe'zy , November 15, 2020 at 11:26 pm

Well put

rob , November 15, 2020 at 10:08 am

Great write up.
While I generally agree with your characterizations, I will also throw out there ..in no particular order..
1) luckily , trump and his "legion of doom" aren't competent enough to draw on the "larger picture" you've outlined here to maximize his effectiveness by using these natural advantages, in their plot of self aggrandizement luckily for us americans/ the trump is his own worst enemy.

2) ejecting trump from trumpism is a path to greater success for the right and fascism/corporatism, which some "smart" people will surely weave into their future plans and models. And the corporatists,be they from the republican side of the aisle, or the democratic side will surely carry forward with this opening in american politics.
because trump does have to go the professionals of deception can mold that wisp of smoke into any shape they want but it won't stay for long and doesn't hold up to any scrutiny . it isn't real..It isn't even a chunk of clay

3] the problem of trumpism, or "conservative republican politics", or "democratic party politics" is that they all necessarliy MUST be a lie in progress. NONE of the political duopoly can go into "truthland" . it is their kryptonite. So all have agreed to never enter and call it a no go zone
And the fact that everything about our political situation is "fact free",at least in the sense that any facts used are only used out of context to keep a truer understanding from happening; hasn't stopped anyone yet and isn't likely too any time soon so too bad for everyone. .we'll call that a draw.
The 30,000 foot description of yours not withstanding, that type of over arching layers of this onion, is something for planners to incorporate in "the con" as it needs to be.. but is above the paygrade of most political actors , who work at rousing the rabble

4) I don't see actual agency of the people . what people want to do has nothing to do with what is going to happen usually, if the elites want something to happen, they provide the opinions and the votes.. "deserve" has nothing to do with it.. and "our reality" is just an illusion.
So over layering a description of bigger forces, over the chaos that has been created to keep this "hegelian dialect" in place , is again for those at a higher pay grade in the process..
Too many chefs ruin the meal but hey ,it's our gruel and we have nothing else to eat , for the moment and maybe less later, if they get their way.

Palaver , November 14, 2020 at 6:24 am

"Post-truth" is dystopian. It's a luxury to live at a distance from unpleasant realities. If a society can sustain a population/segment so far up their own **** then you've "arrived" in a sense.

However, dystopia sounds better than the crises that lay ahead. It's the unavoidable hard landing that worries me.

Maybe truth works like wealth: The first generation discovers the truth. The second generation teaches the truth. And the third generation fakes news.

Altandmain , November 14, 2020 at 6:57 am

The Democratic Party doesn't want to come to terms with the fact that they deserve as much blame as the GOP for the predicament the working class finds itself in.

They chose under Clinton to repeal Glass Steagall, sign free trade agreements, and bring China into the WTO. Under Obama, those policies largely continued. Under Biden, all signs indicate that this will still continue.

I think the brutal reality is that the upper middle class is willfully ignorant of what the precariat faces. Public health authorities, while understandably trying to contain the pandemic, are not the ones who are going to see their lives destroyed. The working class was doomed either way, either by being disproportionately hurt by the coronavirus (they can't work from home) or from long-term unemployment (they've suffered more as a percentage of total jobs lost). In other words, they don't have a stake in keeping the lockdown and may see opening up as a lesser evil.

Likewise, the Liberals who are in secure upper middle class white collar jobs tended to act disdainfully when working class people protested the lockdowns. I'm not saying the protestors were right, but many are people who put their lives into their work, such as small business owners. Evidently, subsidies were needed at the very least.

In this regard, the GOP might have more hope than the Democrats, barring a Berniecrat takeover of the Democrats, which is looking less likely. That said the GOP still has a huge right wing apparatus that would have to be overcome for a "real populist" (ex: someone who actually cared about the well being of the working class) to take over.

One advantage might be that younger people are overwhelmingly left wing economically, so as Generation Y and Z become a bigger share of the electorate, things may change.

Louis , November 14, 2020 at 6:00 pm

Likewise, the Liberals who are in secure upper middle class white collar jobs tended to act disdainfully when working class people protested the lockdowns. I'm not saying the protestors were right, but many are people who put their lives into their work, such as small business owners. Evidently, subsidies were needed at the very least

To this day, they still get outraged for the same reasons. If you so much as point out what you just wrote–not being anti-science but simply the hardship lockdowns cause and how it needs to be properly addressed–at best you'll be called scientifically illiterate. At worst you'll be accused of being an evil rich person who wants to kill grandma to make the stock market go up.

While some of the protests may have been astroturf, not all of them were. If you're a small-business owner facing the prospect of losing everything you've worked for and basically being told "you're on own" of course you will be angry. Likewise, if you're an employee and can't work from home, of course you will be stressed out about losing your job. This is the real "economic anxiety" and it is no laughing matter.

rob , November 15, 2020 at 7:36 am

for the real small business owners, and the individuals who can't work .
they ought to feel pissed
after all . a fraction of the trillions that are earmarked for wall street, could have "paid their bills"..at least for a year . and then the "citizens" would be getting something tangible for the debt being incurred in their name by the duopoly.
All the people realizing "someone" is getting bailed out and it isn't them

is this 2009 or 2020?

Bob Hertz , November 14, 2020 at 7:02 am

I was puzzled by the victory of Prop. 22 in California. This is a state which has huge Democratic majorities, and normally rubber-stamps all union-sponsored legislation.

Uber and Lyft threatened that if Prop. 22 did not pass, they would either stop operations or would lay off 75% of their temp workers.
(not unlike an employer threatening to move to China if their workers form a union.)

They also threatened that ride prices would at least double, and wait times would greatly increase.

The average voter may have put their own self-interest ahead of any class loyalty.

Final note: the gig workers did get a few benefits out of AB 5, things granted by Uber and Lyft to buy some goodwill.

Comments welcome! I do not live in CA so I am just guessing on this. It was an important vote.

lyman alpha blob , November 14, 2020 at 11:01 am

Prop 22 is going to be the most important result of the 2020 election, not Trump v Biden or control of either legislature.

I've been very puzzled by the result too as it passed handily and wasn't really close. I don't live near CA either, but I did read that among other misleading tactics, the Prop 22 proponents gave delivery bags to restaurants that use these gig delivery services so that the delivery drivers would be dropping off meals to people in Yes on 22 bags, which made it seem like prop 22 would be beneficial to gig workers if you didn't look into it much.

So on the one hand there was the intent to deceive. But then I think that if I heard about these dirty tricks 3,000 miles away, surely CA voters must have known about them too.

The depressing thing is that maybe a lot of people did know exactly what Prop 22 was all about and decided they liked the idea of a permanent underclass always only minutes away at the touch of a button to do the things they can't be bothered with for a pittance.

The fact that so many of the gig company execs worked first in the Obama administration and are now heading back to the Biden administration with dreams of scaling up prop 22 is a very ominous portent.

John Wright , November 14, 2020 at 2:53 pm

I voted NO on prop 22, but a mailer I received from the YES side may show why it passed.

It has text with "by 4-to-1, app-based drivers overwhelmingly prefer to work as independent contractors".

The pictures of smiling workers on the mailer are all minorities (Asian, Hispanic, Black).

I'd suggest a small percentage of CA voters actually use Uber/Lyft, so am inclined to believe voters did not vote to preserve their own self-interest.

The "YES" mailer lists 5 advantages for the drivers, "guaranteed hourly earnings for app-based drivers", "per mile compensation toward vehicle expenses", "medical and disability coverage for injuries and illnesses", "new health benefits for drivers who work 15+ hours a week", and "additional safety protections for app-based drivers"

The mailer lists groups supporting it, NAACP, California Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Consumer Choice Center, The Latin Business Association, Black Women Organized for Political Action, California Small Business Association, California Senior Advocates League.

I remember a prior YES on 22 mailer had support from Mothers Against Drunk Driving..

The "YES" group spent about 12x more than the No group (188 million vs 15million)

https://abc7.com/22-california-prop-2020-ca-what-is/7585005/

"Proposition 22 has become the most expensive measure in California history with over $204 million contributed to this single issue"

A side effect of this campaign is to show the value of political consultants/advertising to get something passed.

If Uber/Lyft eventually fail, as many dotcoms did years ago, Prop 22 may be a toxic legacy for them to pass on to other businesses.

To summarize, it is possible many of the voting public believed they were actually helping the pictured workers by voting "YES".

JBird4049 , November 14, 2020 at 8:47 pm

I saw a lot of pro Prop 22 advertising and nothing against it. The ads were all sleek, full of cheerful drivers with big smiles, and easily the best made ads of 2020. I knew that there was something bad about the proposition, but until just a few days before the election I couldn't tell you why. All my mental bandwidth was on the national elections and not on parsing the various state propositions like I normally would. This time it was all on something else.

If a poli-sci/poli-econ geek like me was having some problems with truly understanding this extremely effective, slickly made campaign of manufactured consent, what does that say about the many, often financially and/or socially overwhelmed, California voters who would be much like me? I think that the overlords had the perfect situation for getting the proposition passed.

James P. , November 14, 2020 at 7:14 am

"but the (GOP) party needs to reverse its positions on taxing the wealthiest, punishing and preventing the expansion of organized labor, reversing their position on outsourcing manufacturing, and addressing economic precarity"

And I need to become 6'4″, handsome, young and athletic.

edmondo , November 14, 2020 at 8:43 am

All they need to do is fake it. The Dems won't even bother to do that.

Who knows? AOC might be running against Chuck Schumer as a Republican in 10 years.

Carolinian , November 14, 2020 at 10:16 am

Indeed why would they reverse when the Dems agree with them on all of it. What the above article doesn't get is that the true ruling class response to precarity is simply to make sure voters have no options to address it. We are in a class war, not a battle between political parties. Any promises Biden made to the poor will blow away like smoke once in office. He is on the record saying that billionaires are swell folks.

Lambert linked an interesting article yesterday in Water Cooler that talked about cycles in history and the ingredients of high social unrest. The subject is historian Peter Turchin

He has been warning for a decade that a few key social and political trends portend an "age of discord," civil unrest and carnage worse than most Americans have experienced. In 2010, he predicted that the unrest would get serious around 2020, and that it wouldn't let up until those social and political trends reversed. Havoc at the level of the late 1960s and early '70s is the best-case scenario; all-out civil war is the worst.

The fundamental problems, he says, are a dark triad of social maladies: a bloated elite class, with too few elite jobs to go around; declining living standards among the general population; and a government that can't cover its financial positions.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/can-history-predict-future/616993/

Turchin is saying that social instability is not just the result of high inequality but also of a bloated ruling class that is itself insecure because there aren't enough PMC jobs for all those college graduates and their credentials. Thus in our case the political parties have come to be dominated by these middle class concerns with the poor almost entirely out of the picture and dismissed as racist deplorables who probably deserve their fate. As the article says this sociological theory of history is controversial but at least worth considering.

JBird4049 , November 14, 2020 at 9:01 pm

A good, broad, liberal arts degree, or something like it, can be useful in many kinds of jobs, if the jobs exist . Much of the high skilled, high paying jobs have all been shipped overseas, and the remaining good paying jobs increasingly are office jobs requiring not only a masters degree, but good social connections, and at least saying only goodthoughts to get and keep.

It use to be that there was plenty of diverse work. If you failed at getting tenure or that job at the bank, or the government position you wanted, there was plenty of good work requiring only some education, intelligence, and drive. Having the kind of degree and connections that someone in the modern PMC would merely be very useful, not a requirement for a good life. Bur now we have too many people having the exact education needed to get the few remaining good jobs in the few safe fields, and unlike fifty years, failure means destitution, not disappointment.

Amfortas the hippie , November 15, 2020 at 11:52 am

"We are in a class war, not a battle between political parties."

the number one confusion in american politics.
i'ma paint it on my tailgate.

JBird4049 , November 15, 2020 at 10:07 pm

And yet claiming that this class war exist, which is supposedly immiserating increasing numbers of Americans ever higher up the class chain, is all deplorably racist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobic I am reliable informed. /s

It is unsettling to see writers who I have been reading for years, even decades, start saying that it is racism or bigotry, and only that, which explains the Bad Man. One doesn't have to be a Marxist to make a connection with the increasing poverty and corruption under both parties over the past forty or fifty years with President Trump. Yet, many refuse to.

It does make me wonder what it is that I am blind to.

rob , November 16, 2020 at 8:30 am

I agree,
the class war is a better way of seeing things.
all the symptoms and externalities the class war provides are the things the parties use as fodder issues for their respective bases but all the duopoly can provide is more of the same . "their way" their culture . their rules . their precedents their history..
this is how they seem to win they teach the children to think their" way".
Then what else will happen in the future
people continually adopting patterns that already exist.
They have created a culture . and we all know how people are treated by their neighbors who are "counter-culture"
It becomes a self reinforcing narrative, where the hive keeps the status quo because they want to .
We keep supporting systems that are there to control us rather than recreating systems that help .. like we are "supposed" to or something.

DJG , November 14, 2020 at 11:04 am

James P. Yep. That paragraph has some giant "ifs" in it that caught my eye as I was reading. The likelihood of Republicans sponsoring legislation to repeal "right to work" laws, which tend to be in Republican-dominated states, is almost nil. Further, a party that is opposed to any tax increases, no matter what need has to be addressed, isn't going to change course. Another "if" is relying on someone like the egregious Tom Cotton, as mentioned, for leadership about legislation.

I am sure, though, that you are already on your way to becoming a beefcake model and internet influencer.

zagonostra , November 14, 2020 at 7:56 am

It's going to take some time for this article to sink in. Words like precariat and precarity are fairly new concepts, at least for me and my automatic spell checker. What is the etymology of this word and what are it's conceptual dimensions. I know what precarious means and I can see how using it as an adjective works. But if it's going to be a key term I want to know more about it. Accordiing to a quick search, the etymology is:

precarious (adj.)
1640s, a legal word, "held through the favor of another," from Latin precarius "depending on favor, pertaining to entreaty, obtained by asking or praying," from prex (genitive precis) "entreaty, prayer" (from PIE root *prek- "to ask, entreat").

The notion of "dependent on the will of another" led to the extended sense "risky, dangerous, hazardous, uncertain" (1680s), but this was objected to. "No word is more unskillfully used than this with its derivatives. It is used for uncertain in all its senses; but it only means uncertain, as dependent on others " [Johnson]. Related: Precariously; precariousness.

So what is striking in reading it's etymology is that it is defined as something "dependent, uncertain, risky, dangerous, hazardous." This characterizes many areas of life. With respect to contemporary life in the area of economics, I certainly see it all around me and in the news headlines, in the instability of good long-term paying jobs with benefits. In politics, I certainly see the risks, dangers, and hazards, especially in the highly militarized nature of foreign relations. But looking at the term from the perspective of a "social scientist" does it explain the antecedents that lead to this condition and is it operational in the sense of breaking it down into more rudimentary terms and relationships.

I am reading St. Thomas Aquinas' book "On Truth" and although the style of Questiones Disputatae , with its contra, sed contra, and style is archaic and hard to follow, it provides a good way of centering dialogue. In Question one of Article 1, the formal reply to the stated Article of "What is Truth?" states:

When investigating the nature of anything, one should make the same kind of analysis as he makes when he reduces a proposition to certain self-evident principles."

Since this term "precarity" is new to me, I don't think I have a good handle on how to use it outside of a descriptor. Does it explain anything? And maybe I'm just asking too much of the word. Maybe it's just meant as that, a simple characterization whose underlying causal relationships are to yet be determined and examined.

Anyhow, great article.

thoughtful person , November 15, 2020 at 1:34 pm

I've seen precariate be described as a combination of precarious proletariat.

While one could argue the position of the proletariat is always precarious, I do think the are times in history which are more precarious than others, and what we see now is certainly one (climate change impacts, opioid/alcoholism, covid19 pandemic, ever increasing inequality, globalization of manufacturing, health care for profit in the US, increasing cost of housing and education, no doubt many more)

Terry Flynn , November 14, 2020 at 8:36 am

Nice piece generally and which kinda validates a feeling I've had generally that "uncertainty is increasing" which is often bad for people in so many ways – uncertainty among the "entitled" can be highly damaging to polling (in addition to all the points raised in the article). The elephant in the room is of course interpreting polling results. For example 70% Democrat at a precinct/state/national level is consistent with an infinite number of explanations: at one end we have "strong means" (meaning these are "solid" votes) and at the other we have "very weak means but big variances" (meaning these votes are subject to all sorts of factors like news items, real or manufactured, etc). We can't "know" which universe we're in .Unless we conduct a secondary survey to give a "second line in the x-y plane" to see where it intersects the main one ..then we know whether the 70% is driven by means or variances or some combination.

The likelihood function for all "limited dependent variable models" – discrete choices like voting – has a term that is multiplicative in means and variances. Thus "70%" could mean any of a HUGE number of things. Those of us experienced in interpreting these data can rule out the "dumb" explanations .but we are still left with a number of "possible explanations". If we don't actively talk to voters, do a lot of qualitative research etc, then we can't begin to limit the number of "possible solutions" further. I have had little experience in applying the methods to polling so I rely a lot on sites like NC to give "insights from the ground". It is a pity polling institutions don't. YouGov were on the right track in 2017 but bottled it due to collecting data for their "second line" in a poor way. It's a pity – if they collected data in better way they'd be far and away the best polling organisation. Though the downright lies told by Trumpites that Lambert has highlighted remain a problem – I do have ideas how to address this but they go way beyond the scope of the site and like I've said before, I think pushing MMT etc is a better use of resources (even though it pains me personally not to have my own "hobby horse" championed, hehe).

But I personally think increased variances are a fact of life and reflect the article's point that uncertainty in life is hurting everyone.

Tom Pfotzer , November 14, 2020 at 12:03 pm

Uncertainty and fear are increasing because the kick-the-can strategies are starting to look really wobbly, and the fights for survival and hail-marys (like MMT) are being trotted out.

The velocity of change has increased, and the rate of adaptation appears to have somehow actually slowed down. Just exactly the wrong response at the wrong time.

One commenter above poked fun at the term "precarity" – said it was a $10 gimmick for the word "poor".

A while back Mark Twain said a "cauliflower is a cabbage with a college education".

Precarity is a college-educated middle class "information worker" who is "feeling poor".

The effects of automation and globalization are moving up the class ladder. The ship's sinking and the water's already flooded 3rd class berths (rust belt and flyover), and is about 1/3 of the way into the 2nd class cabins.

Scott1 , November 14, 2020 at 3:54 pm

Hunger.

Louis , November 14, 2020 at 6:11 pm

Agree or disagree with Andrew's Yang's proposal for a universal basic income, I think he is definitely on to something when he talks about the ramifications of automation and machine learning, though he isn't the first person to point it out.

Some people are simply not aware–it's not that they necessarily don't care, they simply just don't know–while others are in denial or don't care.

Regardless of where a given person falls, I do agree that with Yang and others that say dealing with this economic reshaping will be of the key challenges–if not the most important challenge–of our time.

rob , November 15, 2020 at 7:57 am

reshaping our monetary system is one of the biggest hurdles in reshaping our economic present.
Monetary reform efforts like the modern day "chicago plan" as was described in the bill proposed in congress in 2011/2012 112th congress HR 2990
open the door to creating money debt free, and permanently which could pay off the national debt, and fund policies like single payer health care and even "citizen dividends", that are really just ways to inject money into the economy, rather than starting the injection of money into the economy on wall street , like now..
https://www.congress.gov/bill/112-thcongress/house-bill/2990/text

Bob Hertz , November 14, 2020 at 9:19 am

This was a very perceptive observation ..

In sharp contrast, Trump may have appeared indifferent to the gravity of the coronavirus, but his persistent calls to reopen the economy addressed the precarity issue, as they appealed to many workers whose livelihoods were being destroyed by the pandemically induced government restrictions placed on economic activity.

The average worker up through October does not have Covid and may not know anyone of working age who does have Covid ..but they do have a job, and if the job must be done in-person they know they were vulnerable.

"Keeping the economy open" is more urgent to them than defeating Covid through lockdowns.

This is a big reason why Trump even kept this election close.

In America, the authorities who order lockdowns cannot simultaneously order financial relief. This created a tragic class divide on fighting the pandemic.

Carolinian , November 14, 2020 at 10:31 am

These days the members of the media tend to be dominated by the upper middle class who attended elite colleges and probably don't even understand the meaning of precarity. Therefore to them it seems perverse to object to lockdowns and elaborate precautions that the work from home set can more easily deal with. In the old days newspaper reporters rose through the ranks and came from small town newspapers and were more in touch with the general society rather than journalism schools.

Socal Rhino , November 14, 2020 at 10:18 am

I live in California and was surprised to learn here that Harris opposed prop 22. While the Pro campaign carpet bombed the airwaves with ads, I never saw any CA leaders raise a voice in opposition or attempt to explain why this would be bad for working people. Never saw any mention, other than in the state election booklet, that the prop introduced a huge supermajority needed to repeal it, making it effectively impossible to remove once passed. Didn't see any out of state money funding ads despite it being obvious that success in California would lead to adoption in other states.

lyman alpha blob , November 14, 2020 at 11:05 am

Well Harris does all support and oppose M4A depending on who shes talking to and when she's saying it, so there's that. I suspect any disagreements she may express over prop 22's passage are crocodile tears at best.

lyman alpha blob , November 14, 2020 at 11:06 am

Ugh – meant as a reply to social rhino above.

Socal Rhino , November 14, 2020 at 2:06 pm

Her and every other leader who takes positions on many issues but not on this one. Perhaps they saw polling and thought it best instead to add to the strategic underground reserves of dry powder.

Person , November 14, 2020 at 11:15 am

Great piece. One effect of spreading precarity–and I will use the term more loosely to encompass not only economic precarity, but also the increasing sense of pervasive dread and fear experienced by so many across all walks of life–is that living in this state increases one's susceptibility to both totalitarian ideologies and to drives for war against some perceived enemy. To me this explains the shadow of "law and order" hard nationalism coming from the far right, the more extreme variants of identity politics on the left, and the terrified push for censorship and "full lockdown" coming from the neoliberal center. Unfortunately the billionaire class and their pets in the media see all of this as a potential cash cow rather than a serious danger. Given their stranglehold on the national discourse and their control of the most effective means of mass organizing (social media), I'm not sure it is possible to reverse the trend early enough to prevent some kind of major conflict. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try!

Person , November 14, 2020 at 11:24 am

P.S. To avoid any confusion, when I disparagingly refer to "full lockdown" I mean an authoritarian lockdown without accompanying benefits for workers and with "papers please" checkpoints and penalties. The worst kind of lockdown, where people are both unable to support themselves and are actively prevented from doing so. In my opinion people who push for a hard lockdown before benefits/compensation can be arranged are unintentionally advocating for such a position; the compensation will never come.

Louis , November 14, 2020 at 6:17 pm

Heck, I've seen comments (generally not on this site) admiring what China did and lamenting the fact that it can't be done here in the United States.

I sure hope these are troll accounts and not real people in this country, especially not real people on the left. If these are real people, we are in more trouble than I thought.

A government with the power to literally weld people's door shut, which is what China did, can do a lot of other scary things.

witters , November 14, 2020 at 10:17 pm

Yes, like get on top of a virus (and achieve the highest level of economic growth in human history, and produce incredible poetry, and so on). And as I'm not 'in this country,' I believe I'm not 'real people.'

fwe'zy , November 14, 2020 at 10:17 pm

You mean like droning hellfire onto children?

Person , November 14, 2020 at 10:43 pm

I have seen the same thing and have had the same concerns. I do think there is more dishonest disruption/manipulation and trolling going on than we are aware of. It's at the point where I automatically assume that most social media accounts are not taking an honest position. I hope I'm right, because if I'm wrong then humanity is absolutely terrifying.

fwe'zy , November 15, 2020 at 2:01 am

The corporate imperialism status quo isn't terrifying enough for you? Oil and gas seeping out through the land under and around "affordable housing" because CEQA doesn't count on those properties doesn't terrify you? Flint's water crisis doesn't terrify you?

The throngs of human beings thrown out onto the street by Upgrading slumlords and developers doesn't terrify you? Overlords talking with straight faces about excess and surplus humans and ramming Prop 22 through doesn't terrify you?

Person , November 15, 2020 at 10:26 am

There's a big difference between "humanity is OK, but the small slice that rules us is terrible" and "humanity is in deep shit because we're mostly terrible." The first implies a solution, the second what? Hope for a benevolent AI overlord to emerge?

fwe'zy , November 15, 2020 at 10:31 am

Humanity is mostly terrible because people online are glad that China used authority to stop the spread of a deadly virus? Shaking my head!

Person , November 15, 2020 at 6:20 pm

Read my post again. I said that I automatically assume that most accounts posting terrible stuff are bots. There are accounts that say awful things about almost any and every topic imaginable. The number of them is so huge that if these are real people and not bots, then people may indeed be largely terrible. But I assume they are bots.

fwe'zy , November 15, 2020 at 5:29 pm

https://popularresistance.org/affordable-housing-developers-set-their-sights-on-former-toxic-oil-fields/
DeSmog blog
Vista Hermosa residents like Luna are troubled by a 2019 environmental rollback by the state, AB1197, that exempts homeless housing developments in the City of Los Angeles from the mandates of the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA). Arguably California's broadest environmental law, CEQA requires builders to assess the environmental impacts of new development and find ways to avoid or mitigate them.

The political will to rollback CEQA has continued into 2020. In January, Assemblyman Miguel Santiago, who represents District 53 bordering Vista Hermosa, introduced a new piece of legislation, AB1907, to further expand CEQA exemptions to now include all affordable housing.

lobelia , November 14, 2020 at 11:41 am

I'm reminded of the excellent post by Anne Amnesia in May 2016, (yes, when Obama and Biden were still in office, and the White House was just a huge gleam in Kamala's way too sparkly eyes, given the massive poverty, incarceration and inequality in California, as she successfully ran for California Senator and will have not completed even one term) Unnecessariat https://morecrows.wordpress.com/2016/05/10/unnecessariat/

A very brief excerpt (it's long and meaty), emphasis mine:

In 2011, economist Guy Standing coined the term "precariat" to refer to workers whose jobs were insecure, underpaid, and mobile, who had to engage in substantial "work for labor" to remain employed, whose survival could, at any time, be compromised by employers (who, for instance held their visas) and who therefore could do nothing to improve their lot. The term found favor in the Occupy movement, and was colloquially expanded to include not just farmworkers, contract workers, "gig" workers, but also unpaid interns, adjunct faculty, etc. Looking back from 2016, one pertinent characteristic seems obvious: no matter how tenuous, the precariat had jobs. The new dying Americans, the ones killing themselves on purpose or with drugs, don't. Don't, won't, and know it.

Here's the thing: from where I live, the world has drifted away. We aren't precarious, we're unnecessary. The money has gone to the top. The wages have gone to the top. The recovery has gone to the top. And what's worst of all, everybody who matters seems basically pretty okay with that. The new bright sparks, cheerfully referred to as "Young Gods" believe themselves to be the honest winners in a new invent-or-die economy, and are busily planning to escape into space or acquire superpowers, and instead of worrying about this, the talking heads on TV tell you its all a good thing- don't worry, the recession's over and everything's better now, and technology is TOTES AMAZEBALLS!

The Rent-Seeking Is Too Damn High

If there's no economic plan for the Unnecessariat, there's certainly an abundance for plans to extract value from them. No-one has the option to just make their own way and be left alone at it. It used to be that people were uninsured and if they got seriously sick they'd declare bankruptcy and lose the farm, but now they have a (mandatory) $1k/month plan with a $5k deductible: they'll still declare bankruptcy and lose the farm if they get sick, but in the meantime they pay a shit-ton to the shareholders of United Healthcare, or Aetna, or whoever. This, like shifting the chronically jobless from "unemployed" to "disabled" is seen as a major improvement in status, at least on television.

fwe'zy , November 14, 2020 at 10:23 pm

They're busy transhuman-ing so of course they see these people on the street as excess meat.

View from California , November 14, 2020 at 12:24 pm

I was surprised Prop 22 passed because it was not doing well in the polls for most of the pre-election period. It seemed Californians were solidly against it. Then, perhaps 4-6 weeks before the election, I noticed a dramatic change in messaging. Suddenly the ads were touting that if Prop 22 passed, Uber and Lyft drivers would receive health care benefits. I assumed that this was deceptive messaging designed to turn the vote around. Here is what Kaiser Health News says about the benefits: https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201029/App-based-companies-pushing-Prop-22-say-drivers-will-get-health-benefits-Will-they.aspx Looks like it worked. I guess there's no penalty for this sort of deception, or at least, no enforcement of a penalty.

tegnost , November 14, 2020 at 4:05 pm

Tell me lies .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VVY5mqpE4g

Bobby Gladd , November 14, 2020 at 12:40 pm

So, I have CSPAN on at the moment. They're streaming the DC #MillionMAGAMarch #StopTheSteal SuperSpreader rally.

The over-the-top vitriol is rather breathtaking. The angry ignorance is depressing. They're "not gonna allow the Steal." They're gonna "be warriors." "Trump WON! Trump WON! Trump WON! Trump WON! "

The Occam's Chainsaw "logic" is on full display.

Meanwhile, yesterday's new U.S. Covid19 case count was more than 184k, 1.6m for Nov 1-13.

Carolinian , November 14, 2020 at 12:52 pm

Says here 58k which is quite a bit below US daily new cases over last couple of weeks.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Bobby Gladd , November 14, 2020 at 1:02 pm

I get my data from Hopkins.

Bobby Gladd , November 14, 2020 at 1:10 pm

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Carolinian , November 14, 2020 at 1:35 pm

And what was Hopkins' number for the day previous (which may be the case with Worldometer)? One day is only a snapshot.

Bobby Gladd , November 14, 2020 at 2:11 pm

"One day is only a snapshot"

No argument there. I started an Excel sheet, w/ transcribed JHU data commencing Oct 1st (thru yesterday). The exponential upward trendline in the graph has an R-sq of 0.91. (an iterative 7-day moving avg is also illuminating.)

Of course, it'll go up until it no longer does. And, "new cases" incidence rates comprise but one facet of interest.

Stay safe and well.

Person , November 14, 2020 at 3:53 pm

If you're struggling but aren't sick (yet), economic concerns win out. No big surprise there. 70 million people are fighting a return to austerity and a technocratic "Great Reset" that was devised without their input. They see it as literally fighting for their lives and livelihoods. The new admin can ignore this at their own peril. (Too bad Trump didn't actually solve any of their problems, but at least he gave them his attention, more than anyone else has done in decades.)

Louis , November 14, 2020 at 5:15 pm

Many people have to choose between the certainty of being unable to pay their bills, if they stay home, versus the unknown risk of contracting COVID if they work.

Staying home is luxury a lot of people just don't have–even pre-COVID it was very common for people in low-wage jobs that don't provide sick-leave to show up to work sick. It wasn't because these people are evil or wanted to get anyone sick but rather because if you don't work you don't get paid.

Person , November 14, 2020 at 5:27 pm

Precisely. The rent isn't going to pay itself, and people are scared about their future. Covid isn't an obvious terror like Ebola, so people weigh the risks and decide in favor of their economic security. If we were like some of the more advanced countries in the world, they wouldn't have to make this choice, but here we are.

fwe'zy , November 14, 2020 at 10:25 pm

+ to "more advanced countries"

jonhoops , November 14, 2020 at 9:16 pm

"at least he gave them his attention, more than anyone else has done in decades."

Hmmm last time I looked Bernie Sanders was paying attention and proposing solutions since at least 2015. Nice how you just erased him and the millions who voted for him.

Person , November 14, 2020 at 10:39 pm

You're right. Trump is the only primary-winning candidate who paid attention to the working class in recent memory. Bernie was obviously a million times better than Trump because he was sincere, he had a plan, and he would have followed through. But he got screwed.

David , November 14, 2020 at 12:46 pm

I'm becoming a bit weary of reading that politicians like Trump are "exploiting anxieties" about poverty and unemployment, as though such anxieties were unreasonable and the problems didn't really exist. The trouble is that "responding to voters' concerns about their lives" doesn't have quite the same dismissive overtones. The supercilious assumption that people who are afraid of losing their jobs are being "exploited", whereas people being urged to vote on gender lines aren't, seems very strange. Is anyone really surprised that people are more worried about how much money they have than about which gender they are?

Person , November 14, 2020 at 3:48 pm

Understand people's problems, devise reasonable solutions, communicate your plan to the voters, and follow through on your promises. It sounds so easy, doesn't it but good luck trying it with the media and parties working together against you at every turn. Pull up those bootstraps!

Scott1 , November 14, 2020 at 4:25 pm

Thanks. We are going to find out how the velocity of the vote is slower than the velocity of hunger.
"Civilization is about 3 meals thick." John Brockman, ex-con.
We are not together and the people in power don't want to give the people without, food money. Two more and 3 more months of disease as hunger and death knock at more and more doors. Evictions pick up apace.
Cormac McCarthy dystopia. No country for anybody.
The economic theory attributed to Warren Mosler and popularized by Stephanie Kelton is the last idea. If it is a Hail Mary then so be it. If it doesn't work, isn't put to work, mankind itself is doomed.

fwe'zy , November 15, 2020 at 2:08 am

Isn't it shocking that we're even saying these words in a time of hyperabundance?!

Louis , November 14, 2020 at 5:06 pm

Public health care authorities understandably directed their policy responses toward pandemic mitigation, and the Democrats largely embraced their recommendations. But they remained insensitive to the anxieties of tens of millions of Americans, whose jobs were being destroyed for good, whose household debts -- rent, mortgage, and utility arrears, as well as interest on education and car loans -- were rising inexorably, even allowing for the temporary expedient of stimulus checks from the government until this past August

I agree and worse this dynamic is playing itself out again–talk about whether President-elect Biden should institute a lockdown is bringing out the "lockdown now, worry about the consequences later" mentality again.

While I'm not sure Biden personally regards the millions of those who cannot work from home, but aren't considered essential, collateral damage, there are clearly a segment of Democrats who do–I've even seen it on Facebook among people I know. It provides further proof that the Democrats, as Thomas Frank and others have astutely noted, have become predominantly the party of the college-educated upper-middle class.

While I'm not denying the severity of the pandemic, the consequences of business shutdowns and subsequent layoffs are very real and not something to be laughed at or minimized, especially if Democrats want to have a future among those who are less affluent.

Sound of the Suburbs , November 15, 2020 at 4:55 am

The globalists found just the economics they were looking for.
The USP of neoclassical economics – It concentrates wealth.
Let's use it for globalisation.

Mariner Eccles, FED chair 1934 – 48, observed what the capital accumulation of neoclassical economics did to the US economy in the 1920s.
"a giant suction pump had by 1929 to 1930 drawn into a few hands an increasing proportion of currently produced wealth. This served then as capital accumulations. But by taking purchasing power out of the hands of mass consumers, the savers denied themselves the kind of effective demand for their products which would justify reinvestment of the capital accumulation in new plants. In consequence as in a poker game where the chips were concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, the other fellows could stay in the game only by borrowing. When the credit ran out, the game stopped"

This is what it's supposed to be like.
A few people have all the money and everyone else gets by on debt.

Most of today's problems come from the 1920s.

Financial stability had been locked into the regulations of the Keynesian era.
The neoliberals removed them and the financial crises came back.
https://www.brettonwoodsproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/banking-crises.png
"This Time is Different" by Reinhart and Rogoff has a graph showing the same thing (Figure 13.1 – The proportion of countries with banking crises, 1900-2008).

After the 1930s, they wanted to ensure those times would never return and put things in place to ensure they didn't.
The neoliberals have been busy stripping them away.

What did the economists learn in the 1940s?
http://delong.typepad.com/kalecki43.pdf
In the paper from 1943 you can see ..
They knew Government debt and deficits weren't a problem as they had seen the massive Government debt and deficits of WW2.
They knew full employment was feasible as they had seen it in WW2.
After WW2 Governments aimed to create full employment as policymakers knew it could be done and actually maximised wealth creation in the economy.

Balancing the budget was just something they used to do before WW2, but it wasn't actually necessary.
Government debt and deficits weren't a problem.
They could now solve all those problems they had seen in the 1930s, which caused politics to swing to the extremes and populist leaders to rise.
They could eliminate unemployment and create a full employment economy.
They could put welfare states in place to ensure the economic hardship of the 1930s would never be seen again.
They didn't have to use austerity; they could fight recessions with fiscal stimulus.

The neoliberals started to remove the things that had created stable Western societies after WW2.

fwe'zy , November 15, 2020 at 1:29 pm

I learn a ton from your posts, thank you.

Amateur Socialist , November 15, 2020 at 8:07 am

"If I thought voters were racists who want basic economic security and the other party was offering them racism but not economic security, I would simply try offering economic security but not racism rather than offering them neither." -Ed Burmilla https://twitter.com/edburmila/status/1324420903409692673

Sound of the Suburbs , November 16, 2020 at 3:49 am

We stepped onto an old path that still leads to the same place.
1920s/2000s – neoclassical economics, high inequality, high banker pay, low regulation, low taxes for the wealthy, robber barons (CEOs), reckless bankers, globalisation phase
1929/2008 – Wall Street crash
1930s/2010s – Global recession, currency wars, trade wars, austerity, rising nationalism and extremism
1940s – World war.
We forgot we had been down that path before.

Right wing populist leaders are only to be expected at this stage.

Why is Western liberalism always such a disaster?
They did try and learn from past mistakes to create a new liberalism (neoliberalism), but the Mont Pelerin Society went round in a circle and got back to pretty much where they started.

It equates making money with creating wealth and people try and make money in the easiest way possible, which doesn't actually create any wealth.
In 1984, for the first time in American history, "unearned" income exceeded "earned" income.
The American have lost sight of what real wealth creation is, and are just focussed on making money.
You might as well do that in the easiest way possible.
It looks like a parasitic rentier capitalism because that is what it is.

Bankers make the most money when they are driving your economy into a financial crisis.
What they are doing is really an illusion; they are just pulling future spending power into today.
The 1920s roared at the expense of an impoverished 1930s.
Japan roared on the money creation of real estate lending in the 1980s, they spent the next 30 years repaying the debt they had built up in the 1980s and the economy flat-lined.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YTyJzmiHGk

Bankers use bank credit to pump up asset prices, which doesn't actually create any wealth.
The money creation of bank credit flows into the economy making it boom, but you are heading towards a financial crisis and claims on future prosperity are building up in the financial system.
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/quarterly-bulletin/2014/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy.pdf
Early success comes at the expense of an impoverished future.

Sound of the Suburbs , November 16, 2020 at 5:23 am

Let's get the basics sorted.
When no one knows what real wealth creation is, you are in trouble.

We want economic success
Step one – Identify where wealth creation occurs in the economy.
Houston, we have a problem.

Economists do identify where real wealth creation in the economy occurs, but this is a most inconvenient truth as it reveals many at the top don't actually create any wealth.
This is the problem.
Much of their money comes from wealth extraction rather than wealth creation, and they need to get everyone thoroughly confused so we don't realise what they are really up to.

The Classical Economists had a quick look around and noticed the aristocracy were maintained in luxury and leisure by the hard work of everyone else.
They haven't done anything economically productive for centuries, they couldn't miss it.
The Classical economist, Adam Smith:
"The labour and time of the poor is in civilised countries sacrificed to the maintaining of the rich in ease and luxury. The Landlord is maintained in idleness and luxury by the labour of his tenants. The moneyed man is supported by his extractions from the industrious merchant and the needy who are obliged to support him in ease by a return for the use of his money."
There was no benefits system in those days, and if those at the bottom didn't work they died.
They had to earn money to live.

Ricardo was an expert on the small state, unregulated capitalism he observed in the world around him. He was part of the new capitalist class, and the old landowning class were a huge problem with their rents that had to be paid both directly and through wages.
"The interest of the landlords is always opposed to the interest of every other class in the community" Ricardo 1815 / Classical Economist.
They soon identified the constructive "earned" income and the parasitic "unearned" income.
This disappeared in neoclassical economics.

GDP was invented after they used neoclassical economics last time.
In the 1920s, the economy roared, the stock market soared and nearly everyone had been making lots of money.
In the 1930s, they were wondering what the hell had just happened as everything had appeared to be going so well in the 1920s and then it all just fell apart.
They needed a better measure to see what was really going on in the economy and came up with GDP.
In the 1930s, they pondered over where all that wealth had gone to in 1929 and realised inflating asset prices doesn't create real wealth, they came up with the GDP measure to track real wealth creation in the economy.
The transfer of existing assets, like stocks and real estate, doesn't create real wealth and therefore does not add to GDP. The real wealth creation in the economy is measured by GDP.
Real wealth creation involves real work producing new goods and services in the economy.

So all that transferring existing financial assets around doesn't create wealth?
No it doesn't, and now you are ready to start thinking about what is really going on there.

Economists do identify where real wealth creation in the economy occurs, but this is a most inconvenient truth as it reveals many at the top don't actually create any wealth.
Hide what real wealth creation is, and pretend it's making money, and this problem goes away.

techpioneer , November 16, 2020 at 7:25 pm

Irony:

The party of the New Deal can't muster a repeat performance.

Delusional:

Hoping that the party of "big business" will transform itself into the party of the working class.

[Nov 16, 2020] Four More Years Of by Andrew Joyce

Highly recommended!
There are two different things here. Trump betrayal of his voters is one thing, but election fraud is another and is unacceptable no matter what is your opinion about Trump. We should not mix those two topics.
Notable quotes:
"... Anarchy and Christianity ..."
"... Le meutre d'un enfant ..."
"... homo economicus ..."
"... Washington Post ..."
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All our political forms are exhausted and practically nonexistent. Our parliamentary system and electoral system and our political parties are just as futile as dictatorships are intolerable. Nothing is left. And this nothing is increasingly aggressive, totalitarian and omnipresent.
Jacques Ellul, Anarchy and Christianity (1991)

Look at them! Look at them, will you? Behold our politicians' horrible languid maws!; the courtier-like faces of department managers. They are indeed salesmen, for the very power of nations is measure in relation to their own mercantile activity.
Jean Cau, Le meutre d'un enfant (1965)

"What's going to happen now?" I was asked earlier today. "Nothing and everything," I replied. Immigration, largely unchallenged and unscathed (excepting the incidental impact of COVID-19 on population movement) from four years of Trumpism, will now continue to accelerate unabated . Zionism will continue to enjoy the expansion of American institutional and military support, this time with the blood interest of Jared Kushner replaced with the Jewish spouses of all three of Biden's children. And the momentary Obama-era delusion of a post-racial America will continue to dissolve in the reality of the increasing awareness and importance of race throughout the West, not solely as a result of mass migration but also of the increasing ubiquity of the ideologies of racial grievance and revenge. There will, of course, be a dramatic change for the worse in tone and spirit, and some smaller legislative victories like the banning of federal anti-racism training will likely soon be reversed. The defeat of Donald Trump is also hugely demoralizing to many decent American people, and emboldening to their bitterest enemies. This is to be sorely regretted. But it is in the shared qualities of Trump and Biden, rather than the election and sham ballots, that the real nature of our political systems and their future can be perceived. And it is in these shared qualities that our true problems lie.

Parliamentary electoral democracy is merely a representation of the general system in which it operates. Slavoj Zizek comments:

At the empirical level, of course, multi-party liberal democracy "represents" -- mirrors, registers, measures -- the quantitative dispersal of different opinions of the people, what they think about the proposed programs of the parties and about their candidates, etc. However, prior to this empirical level and in a much more radical sense, the very form of multi-party liberal democracy "represents" -- instantiates -- a certain vision of society, politics, and the role of the individuals in it: politics is organized in parties that compete through elections to exert control over the state legislative and executive apparatus, etc. One should always be aware that this frame is never neutral, insofar as it privileges certain values and practices.

The truth of the system, in terms of its non-negotiable aspects, is thus revealed in the "values and practices" privileged and ring-fenced under both Trump and Biden. What are these non-negotiables? Zionism, GloboHomo ideological capitalism and its "woke" leftist correlates, and the neoliberal promotion of GDP as the benchmark of human success and happiness.

Zionism

Jews have little to fear from a Biden presidency, which is presumably why Haaretz is claiming that the "American Jewish vote clinched Biden's victory and Trump's ouster. American Jews decided the outcome of the U.S. elections." Donald Trump might have been hailed as the "most pro-Israel President in U.S. history," but Jews are notoriously unreliable in their partnerships with non-Jewish elites. Fate, it must be said, has not been kind to those gentile elites that have exhausted their usefulness to Jews. And Trump is surely exhausted, having spent a busy four years fighting for Jews in Israel and in the United States. He reversed long-standing US policies on several critical security, diplomatic and political issues to Israel's favour, including the Iran nuclear accord, the treatment of Israel at the UN, and the status of Jerusalem and the Golan Heights. In December 2019, he announced his Executive Order on Combatting Anti-Semitism , promising to fight "the rise of anti-Semitism and anti-Semitic incidents in the United States and around the world." One wonders what else he could possibly have done for these people -- apart from a war with Iran -- a question that appears to have been answered by Jews with a resounding "Nothing." One can only imagine Trump's facial expression on seeing Benjamin Netanyahu's emphatic congratulations to Joe Biden, punctuated with the loving refrain: "I have a personal, long and warm connection with Joe Biden for nearly 40 years, and I know him to be a great friend of the State of Israel."

Biden and Harris, replete with their immediate familial ties to Jews, are viewed in Zionist circles as being at least as reliable as Trump, although not as exuberant and bullish. Biden has been known as a staunch supporter of Israel throughout his 36 years in the Senate, often cites his 1973 encounter with then-Prime Minister Golda Meir as "one of the most consequential meetings" of his life, and has on more than one occasion regaled audiences with a tale about his father telling him that "You don't need to be a Jew to be a Zionist." While some modifications are likely in the American approach to Iran, few reversals are expected on Trump's four years of pro-Israel activism. Biden, for example, has weakly criticized moving the embassy to Jerusalem but said he would not pull it back to Tel Aviv. Michael Herzog at Haaretz describes both Biden and Harris as "traditional Democrats, with a fundamental commitment to Israel whose roots are in part emotional in nature (in contrast to Obama)."

The change in relationship between America and Israel will be, in meaningful terms, restricted to the personal. Netanyahu, for all his fawning, is likely to undergo a personal demotion of sorts, with David Halbfinger of the New York Times pointing out that we can expect a Biden presidency to diminish Netanyahu's "stature on the global stage and undercut his argument to restive Israeli voters that he remains their indispensable leader." Palestinian leaders, probably the best-positioned to offer a perspective on the potential for an improvement in their condition under the new presidency, have been sombre to say the least. Hanan Ashrawi, a senior PLO official, responded to the question if she expected United States policy to continue tilting heavily in Israel's favor: "I don't think we're so naïve as to see Biden as our savior." Contrast this with the cheerfulness and confidence of Israel settlers who have grown accustomed to the perennial nature of American support for Zionism. David Elhayani, head of the Yesha Council, an umbrella for Jewish settlements in the West Bank, said the party of the U.S. president ultimately doesn't matter so long as the baseline commitment to support Israel persists: "Under Obama, we built more [settlement] houses than we have under Trump I think Biden is a friend of Israel."

The fact that the grassroots of the Democratic Party are drifting away from Zionism is no more consequential than the fact the grassroots of the Republican Party wanted major action on immigration reform. The former, like the latter, have been equally ignored by the real power brokers and influencers. Regardless of the radical appearance of Democrat-affiliated movements like Black Lives Matter, the fact remains that all of the leftist aggression and rhetoric of the summer of 2020 has resulted in the putative election of an establishment Zionist and political pragmatist who is sure to execute a more or less formulaic neoliberal scheme for government. In one sense, the bland, forgetful, and familiar Biden, who lacks any hint of genuine or novel ideology and was elected purely as a symbol of "not Trump," is the fitting response to Trump, who was equally devoid of ideological sincerity or complexity beyond the symbolism of "not Establishment." And so, while the media proclaims, as Heraclitus, that "all is in flux," from a different perspective we could argue, like Parmenides, the opposite -- "there is no motion at all."

GloboHomo

If I retain one abiding, surreal, memory of the Trump presidency in the years ahead it will be the Don dancing to the Village People in the wake of his numerous drives to legalize homosexuality in various African backwaters. That the Red State Christians comprising so much of his base could maintain their self-adopted blind spot on this issue is a remarkable testament to the power of personality, because no world leader in history has done more in recent history than Donald Trump to export what E. Michael Jones has so aptly termed "the Gay Disco" -- the double-barrelled shotgun of unbridled finance capitalism and the superficial freedom of sexual "liberty." As the pastors and preachers of South Carolina and Texas urged their huddled congregations to pray for the President, Trump was busy dispatching new missionaries, like U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell, to the corners of the earth in search of converts to the Church of GloboHomo.

In February 2019, the U.S. embassy indulged in some nostalgia for Weimar when it flew LGBT activists from across Europe to Berlin for a strategy dinner to plan to push for decriminalization in places that still outlaw homosexuality -- mostly concentrated in the Middle East, Africa and the Caribbean. For my part, I can think of many social problems in these parts of the world, but it really takes a special kind of mind to arrive at the opinion that one of the most pressing is that they need to become more gay. Grenell, however, horrified that Iran has the audacity to execute its own convicted homosexual pederasts, was not to be deterred, and was instrumental in the blackmail of lesser nations, promising they would be denied access to terrorism intelligence if they don't legalise homosexuality. All of which has left the far corners of the American cultural-military empire questioning whether they could better live with suicide bombers or sodomy.

Against such manoeuvres, Biden's apparent claim to be one half of the "most pro-equality ticket in history" seems a little overstated. That being said, there's no question that Biden is going to step up the domestic nature of GloboHomo significantly as soon as he assumes office. Biden has pledged to sign the Equality Act, thus far opposed by the Trump administration, within his first 100 days in office, a piece of legislation that will amend "the Civil Rights Act to prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity in employment, housing, public accommodations, public education, federal funding, credit, and the jury system." Biden has pledged to appoint significant numbers of homosexuals and transsexuals to positions of influence, and has promised to allow transsexuals to join the military. Experienced in advancing global LGBT+ dogma as part of the Obama-Biden administration, Biden will also once again take up the global mantle, expressing his "hopes to reverse Trump's efforts and expand queer rights internationally by making equality a centrepiece of US diplomacy," and condemning Poland's "LGBT-free zones." Stunning and brave indeed.

There is a certain sense in the cases of both Trump and Biden that, for all the flamboyance of their efforts in this area, there is a performative aspect to this politics. I don't get the impression that either has been especially personally committed to these ideas or actions, but that, as pragmatic-symbolic politicians, they have been made aware that this is the direction the broader System is moving in and they should comply and support it. The longevity and gradual acceleration of these trends, beginning in earnest with the presidency of Bill Clinton, would suggest a systemic movement underlying, and entirely untethered to, specific political parties or figures. Throughout the West, and much as with Zionism, GloboHomo, or hedonistic credit-based capitalism and its sexual correlates more generally, is to be accepted and promoted as an essential part of the role of neoliberal government. In the context of declining basic freedoms at home, for example the obvious decline in free speech and the creeping criminalisation of meaningful dissent against the status quo, the international promotion of homosexuality and transsexual identities offers a cost-free and PR-friendly method for increasingly authoritarian neoliberal regimes to posture as crusaders for freedom. The trucker in Ohio is, logical flaws notwithstanding, and whether he wants it or not, thus assured of his place in the Land of the Free via his government's emancipation of the gays and transvestites of Uganda. Engaged politically only at the most superficial level, the masses play along with this ruse, often in blunt denial, possessing only fragmentary realisations of the fact their countries are changing around them while the petty "rewards" of Americanism are meagre and peculiar, if not insulting.

GDP!

Along with frequent reassurances that he was "giving serious consideration" to doing something, Trump's presidency was marked by regular updates on the performance of American GDP. Unfortunately the GDP, like the Jewish vote, appears to have stabbed him in the back, with around 70% of American GDP represented in counties that (putatively!) voted Democrat. Trump's tragicomic belief in GDP performance as a form of politics in its own right is perhaps the quintessential example of the mentality of homo economicus and the tendency of neoliberals to view countries as mere zones, or economic areas, where everything is based on rationalism and materialism, and national success is purely a calculation of economic self-interest. Writing pessimistically of Trump's expected nomination in 2015 , I issued a stark warning about the influence of Jared Kushner, but also added:

For all his bluster, Trump is a creation and product of the bourgeois revolution and its materialistic liberal ideologies. We are teased and tantalized by the fantasy that Trump is a potential "man of the people." But I cannot escape the impression that he is a utilitarian and primarily economic character, who seeks a social contract based on personal convenience and material interest. In his business and political history I see only the "distilled Jewish spirit."

I don't think I've seen anything over the last four years that has made me question or revise that assessment. Trump's dedicated tweeting on GDP in fact had the opposite effect.

The disturbing reality, of course, is that GDP is only one side of a national economy. Another crucial aspect is government borrowing, and current projections suggest that the United States is " condemned to eternal debt ." According to The Budget Office of the United States Congress (CBO), "the US economy would enter the first half of this century with a public debt equivalent to 195 percent of its GDP. In the next 30 years the debt of the most powerful economy on the planet would more than double." The first significant jump occurred in the wake of the subprime crisis, in which Jewish mortgage lenders were especially prominent. The subprime crisis forced public debt to 37 percent of GDP, which then rose steadily to 79 percent between 2008 and the outbreak of COVID-19. It now stands at 98 percent, and is accelerating. Although the United States has reached comparable levels of debt in the past, there has almost always been an accompanying war, or wars, which acted as a financial pressure valve -- a fact that does not bode well for isolationists but may be encouraging news for Zionist hawks.

Joe Biden has claimed recently that "a Biden-Harris Administration will not be measured just by the stock market or GDP growth, but by the extent to which growth is raising the pay, dignity, and economic security of our working families" -- while at the same time welcoming millions of new immigrants and legalizing the ~20M+ illegals into the workforce .The American economy is in fact extremely unlikely to change direction, with Biden reassuring his billionaire donors gathered at the Carlyle Hotel in Manhattan in June 2019 that "no one's standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change." I believe him. Biden was part of an administration that looked on as 10 million working Americans lost their homes. Matt Stoller at the Washington Post has described Obama-era Democrat economic policies as "in effect, a wholesale attack on the American home (the main store of middle-class wealth) in favor of concentrated financial power." Biden was part of a team that outright rejected prosecuting major bankers for fraud and money laundering, and that represented one of the most monopoly-friendly administrations in history:

2015 saw a record wave of mergers and acquisitions, and 2016 was another busy year. In nearly every sector of the economy, from pharmaceuticals to telecom to Internet platforms to airlines, power was concentrated. And this administration, like George W. Bush's before it, did not prosecute a single significant monopoly under Section 2 of the Sherman Act. Instead [under Obama] the Federal Trade Commission has gone after such villains as music teachers and ice skating instructors for ostensible anti-competitive behavior. This is very much a parallel of the financial crisis, as elites operate without legal constraints while the rest of us toil under an excess of bureaucracy.

Biden is the product of funding from forty-four billionaires , including six hedge fund speculators, seven real estate barons, and five in the tech sector. Of the top 22 donors, at least 18 are Jews (Jim Simons, Len Blavatnik, Stewart Resnick, Eli Broad, Neil Bluhm, David Bonderman, Herb Simon, Daniel Och, Liz Lefkovsky, Steve Mandel, Bruce Karsh, Howard Marks, S. Daniel Abraham, Marc Lasry, Jonathan Tisch, Daniel Lubetsky, Laurie Tisch, and Robert Toll). The Jewish consortium behind Biden is almost identical in its financial composition to that behind Trump which, as I've explained previously , was notable for its embodiment of "usury and vulture capitalism, bloated consumerism, and the sordid commercial exploitation of vice." Biden's transition team , meanwhile, is comprised of "executives from Lyft, Airbnb, Amazon, Capital One, Booz Allen, Uber, Visa, and JPMorgan." In short, expectations that Biden is going to break up Big Tech, or any monopoly for that matter, are the fantasies of the deluded, the ignorant, and the duped.

Conclusion

While the drama and recrimination surrounding the election are unquestionably fascinating, I hope you'll forgive for being less agitated than most. My reasons for lethargy are simple: I knew that regardless of outcome we'd get four more years -- four more years of Zionism, GloboHomo, and the standardized, rationalized machinery of economic escalation that now provides the apologetic engine for mass migration. Behind the abortion debates, Supreme Court picks, culture wars, and media theater, these are the non-negotiables of the System. You don't hear about them, and you can't talk about them, because you can't vote on them. And this is the biggest electoral fraud of all.


Jack McArthur , says: November 14, 2020 at 7:37 pm GMT • 1.9 days ago

I feel particular sorrow for ordinary decent Americans, in what today should be the land of plenty for all, who are having to witness this horrible implosion of their country and values. Other than divine intervention there is no hope. The media, money markets and political classes are either directly run by the same children of a devil or by loathsome gentiles who have taken the Judas coin or who are cowards in fear of their miserable life's.

What is life if it means cowering down in the face of evil? An ancient voice trying to tell this strange world that you are controlled by an evil power and that your eternal fate is determined by how you respond to it i.e. join the freak show or stand up like a true man or woman and tell them no.

The writer of this essay is a man of culture, with wide interests. There are not many left. Compare him to the moronic voices of today with their narrow perverted interests and weep for what faces you.

Craig Nelsen , says: November 14, 2020 at 9:30 pm GMT • 1.8 days ago

I feel particular sorrow for ordinary decent Americans, in what today should be the land of plenty for all, who are having to witness this horrible implosion of their country and values. Other than divine intervention there is no hope. The media, money markets and political classes are either directly run by the same children of a devil or by loathsome gentiles who have taken the Judas coin or who are cowards in fear of their miserable life's.

Particular particular sorrow for the young. As for divine intervention, we used to have a saying about God helping those who help themselves. Surely there must be some action we can take.

https://jailsoros.com/

Realist , says: November 15, 2020 at 3:30 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

While the drama and recrimination surrounding the election are unquestionably fascinating, I hope you'll forgive for being less agitated than most. My reasons for lethargy are simple: I knew that regardless of outcome we'd get four more years -- four more years of Zionism, GloboHomo, and the standardized, rationalized machinery of economic escalation that now provides the apologetic engine for mass migration. Behind the abortion debates, Supreme Court picks, culture wars, and media theater, these are the non-negotiables of the System. You don't hear about them, and you can't talk about them, because you can't vote on them. And this is the biggest electoral fraud of all.

Exactly correct. As early as mid April 2017 I could see that Trump had no intention of keeping his promises to middle Americans I wrote a comment to this blog saying as much.

Trump is a minion of the Deep State.

The Deep State doesn't care about the unimportant internecine squabbles of the two parties as long as their important issues are advanced (wealth and power). As a matter of fact it strengthens the false perception that there is a choice when voting.

Trump and the Deep State do not care what the American people want. They know that most American people are inane fools and will believe anything. Most Americans would rather watch America's Got Talent, Dancing With The Stars or The Masked Singer than be informed about important issues.

AReply , says: November 16, 2020 at 6:05 am GMT • 11.1 hours ago

The only discernible values espoused in this rambling crypfic article is dog-whistling to bigots of yore.

There is no study of history, no analysis, no insight and no meaning beyond blathers about jews and homos.

The tone is hatred and despair with the judgement that others are to blame and there is nothing to work towards.

The Zizek quote offered a word-salad refrain that everybody comes to power under some bias, to themselves, if nothing else. But Zizek's actual point has be de-contextualized. Here is what Zizek was saying:

Biden is Just Trump With a Human Face
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/op-ed/504705-slavoj-zizek-biden-trump/amp/

//Let's remember that [Hannah] Arendt said this in her polemic against Mao, who himself believed that "power grows out of the barrel of a gun" – Arendt qualifies this like an "entirely non-Marxist" conviction and claims that, for Marx, violent outbursts are like "the labor pangs that precede, but of course do not cause, the event of organic birth." Basically, I agree with her, but I would add that there never will be a fully peaceful "democratic" transfer of power without the "birth pangs" of violence: there will always be moments of tension when the rules of democratic dialogue and changes are suspended.

Today, however, the agent of this tension is the Right, which is why, paradoxically, the task of the Left is now, as the US politician Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has pointed out, to save our "bourgeois" democracy when the liberal center is too weak and indecisive to do it. Is this in contradiction with the fact that the Left today should move beyond parliamentary democracy?

No: as Trump demonstrates, the contradiction is in this democratic form itself, so that the only way to save what is worth saving in liberal democracy is to move beyond it – and vice versa, when rightist violence is on the rise, the only way to move beyond liberal democracy is to be more faithful to it than the liberal democrats themselves. This is what the successful democratic return to power of the Morales's party in Bolivia, one of the few bright spots in our devastated landscape, clearly signals.//

In other words we must be conservatives who are willing to progress!

And hey, crypto-fascists: Zizek is not on board with you just because RT runs him on their version of Fox News.

A New Kind of Communism

https://www.youtube.com/embed/QARALafdWUI?feature=oembed

The world is never going back to the old-timey dayz of white settlement of an eden America. So move forward or croak of old age or both.

As to the idea that "decent Americans" are in any way demoralized by Trump's loss:
BULLSHIT!

If you are demoralized by Trump's loss, you have been ejected from decency. But Luckily for you, it so happens USA is a happy-enough home for all stripes of perverts.

Meimou , says: November 16, 2020 at 6:10 am GMT • 11.0 hours ago
@Verymuchalive the Occidental Observer writers in prison, you have zero reason to think Trump won't crack down on free speech in 2020.

Another 4 years of Trumpstien means a very large % of the right will continue to sleep, something Biden could not get us to do. Biden could never get the right to support vaccines or martial law.

No Trump apologist besides Alex Jonestien gives an excuse why Trump is backing a unsafe, hastily made vaccine for a disease with a 99% survival rate. No Trump cultist will provide a credible one. (Wally will not be the first)

Consider.

GreatSocialist , says: November 16, 2020 at 6:22 am GMT • 10.8 hours ago
@Realist rs.

And what happened? She was raped and kicked in the butt by him. He always does that to everybody. He did it to his dad, he did it to his brothers and sister, he did it to his family ..and now he has raped America.

Trump's only ability is to find out what others fear or desire, then overpromise on everything and deliver nothing or even the opposite after u have given him your support or money. That's how he operates in business, and that's how he has conducted his fake presidency.

I am surprised that so many seemingly intelligent people have been taken in by this well-known conman.

Clay Alexander , says: November 16, 2020 at 6:44 am GMT • 10.4 hours ago

Great article. What I find strange is a businessman from New York second only to Israel in population of Jews could be so easily duped by them. Loyal only to themselves. In the words of Harry Truman "Jesus couldn't do anything with them, what am I suppose to do with them?".

geokat62 , says: November 16, 2020 at 8:26 am GMT • 8.7 hours ago

I think it needs to be emphasised that the "homo" in globohomo stands for "homogeneity" and not "homosexuality":

Globohomo

(adj) A word used to describe a globalized and homogenized culture pushed for by large companies, politicians, and Neocon/Leftist pawns. This culture includes metropolitan ideals such as diversity, homosexuality, sexual degeneracy, colorblindness in regard to race, egalitarianism, money worship, and the erasure of different individual cultures, among other things.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Globohomo

Miro23 , says: November 16, 2020 at 10:28 am GMT • 6.7 hours ago

My reasons for lethargy are simple: I knew that regardless of outcome we'd get four more years -- four more years of Zionism, GloboHomo, and the standardized, rationalized machinery of economic escalation that now provides the apologetic engine for mass migration. Behind the abortion debates, Supreme Court picks, culture wars, and media theater, these are the non-negotiables of the System. You don't hear about them, and you can't talk about them, because you can't vote on them.

This may be great for The US' Jewish plutocracy, but the United States is still in economic competition with countries that don't give 2 cents for ZioGlob world (for example China – which has just signed the RCEP – Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership, covering 15 Asian countries, after 8 years of negotiation and covering 2.2 billion people).

So the rest of the world looks on with interest, same as it did in 1923, when the German Weimar Republic collapsed in an orgy of sleaze, corruption, debt and worthless money.

sethg , says: November 16, 2020 at 10:38 am GMT • 6.5 hours ago

990. Jews are the scapegoats for all the deficiencies of low-IQ whites just as whites are the scapegoats for all the deficiencies of low-IQ non-whites. Let me explain how that works.

Why do we observe Jews at the forefront of many cutting-edge industries? (for example the media/arts and financial industries are indeed rife with them). The low-IQ answer is, of course, a simplistic conspiracy theory: Jews form an evil cabal that created all these industries from scratch to "destroy culture" (or at least what low-IQ people think is culture, i.e. some previous, obsolete state of culture, i.e. older, lower culture, i.e. non-culture). And, to be sure, there is a lot of decadence in these industries. But, in an advanced civilization, there is a lot of decadence everywhere anyway! It's an essential prerequisite even! So it makes perfect sense that the most capable people in such a civilization will also be the most decadent! The stereotype of the degenerate cocaine-sniffing whoremonging or homosexual Hollywood or Wall Street operative belongs here. Well, buddy, if YOU were subjected to the stresses and temptations of the Hollywood or Wall Street lifestyles, maybe you'd be a "degenerate" too! But you lack the IQ for that, so of course you'll reduce the whole enterprise to a simplistic resentful fairy tale that seems laughable even to children: a bunch of old bearded Jews gathered round a large table planning the destruction of civilization! Well I say enough with this childish nonsense! The Jews are simply some of the smartest and most industrious people around, ergo it makes sense that they'll be encountered at or near all the peaks of the dominant culture, being overrepresented everywhere in it, including therefore in its failings and excesses! This is what it means to be the best! It doesn't mean that you are faultless little angels who can do no wrong, you brainless corn-fed nitwits! There's a moving passage somewhere in Nietzsche where he relates that Europe owes the Jews for the highest sage (Spinoza), and the highest saint (Jesus), and he'd never even heard of Freud or Einstein! In view of all the immeasurable gifts the Jewish spirit has lavished on humanity, anti-semitism in the coming world order will be a capital offense, if I have anything to say on the matter. The slightest word against the Jews, and you're a marked man: I would have not only you, but your entire extended family wiped out, just to be sure. You think you know what the Devil is, but he's just the lackey taking my orders. Entire cities razed to the ground (including the entire Middle East), simply because one person there said something bad about "the Jews", that's how I would have the future! Enough with this stupid meme! To hell with all of you brainless subhumans! You've wasted enough of our nervous energy on this stupid shit! And the same goes to low-IQ non-whites who blame all their troubles on whites! And it's all true: Jews and whites upped the stakes for everybody by bringing into the world a whole torrent of new possibilities which your IQ is too low to handle! So whatcha gonna do about it? Are you all bark, or are you prepared to bite? Come on, let's see what you can do! Any of you fucking pricks bark, and we'll execute every motherfucking last one of you!

From http://orgyofthewill.net

Zarathustra , says: November 16, 2020 at 10:44 am GMT • 6.4 hours ago

Blah, blah, blah. Cat circling the hot plate. Trump was galacticly stupid. He should have told the Jews that I will give you Jerusalem and Golan heights in my second term. He would have a second term.
The only point is here is this:
Jews see Iran as a mortal threat. Jews want Iran to be destroyed. For Biden the first point on the agenda is destruction of Iran. Biden did promise Jews that he will destroy Iran.
That is why Biden did win.
Trump hesitated with his promise to destroy Iran that is why he lost.
So here is the conclusion question:
Was Biden serious when he promised to Jews destroy Iran, or he was only making fools from them Jews.
That is the only outstanding question

The Spirit of Enoch Powell , says: November 16, 2020 at 4:11 pm GMT • 58 minutes ago
@Trinity

From my understanding, the term "Globohomo" was originally meant as a shorthand for "globalised homogenisation", wherein all national cultures would be eliminated in favour of a universal culture, promotion of homosexuality is just one of the components of GloboHomo, with things like rampant consumerism, substance use and liberalism being some of the other things.

If you go to the newly built sections of Europeans cities, you will notice how they are all the same (homogenous) with the same American fast food outlets and the same architectural style.

[Nov 16, 2020] GDP figures hide rents, and unearned income as if they are GDP gains.

Nov 16, 2020 | www.unz.com

Mefobills , says: November 16, 2020 at 4:16 pm GMT • 53 minutes ago

The Jewish consortium behind Biden is almost identical in its financial composition to that behind Trump which, as I've explained previously, was notable for its embodiment of "usury and vulture capitalism, bloated consumerism, and the sordid commercial exploitation of vice."

GDP figures hide rents, and unearned income as if they are GDP gains.

Let's take the housing bubble years up to 2008 as an example. Thought experiment: Everybody in the West sells their home to their neighbor.

New bank credit was created due to loan formation to buy and sell homes. There was activity as new finance paper was created in the form of new debt instruments to transfer your home to your neighbor. All the new interest collected by banks is seen as profit.

GDP goes up by the profits and new finance activity.

The physical housing stock does not change at all.

Hudson and PCR explains how GDP is a false metric for measuring economic activity. People cannot understand things if they don't have words for it, or if they don't have a way of measuring.

Clown world is formed purposefully.. rents, unearned income, usury are a feature of the system, not a bug. It is not you going crazy, you have become Allice in wonderland, where reality is unreal.

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/12/16/neoliberal-economics-destroyed-the-economy-and-the-middle-class/

According to official US government economic data, the US economy has been growing for 10.5 years since June of 2009. The reason that the US government can produce this false conclusion is that costs that are subtrahends from GDP are not included in the measure. Instead, many costs are counted not as subtractions from growth but as additions to growth . For example, the penalty interest on a person's credit card balance that results when a person falls behind his payments is counted as an increase in "financial services" and as an increase in Gross Domestic Product. The economic world is stood on its head.

[Nov 15, 2020] For weeks vs four years: Rep. Jordan -- Democrats Spent Four Years on Russia Hoax and Don't Want to Spend Four Weeks on 2020 Election

Nov 15, 2020 | www.breitbart.com

Saturday during an appearance on FNC's "Justice," Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) questioned why Democrats oppose any investigations into the integrity of the presidential election, despite their past efforts on the 2016 presidential election.

The Ohio Republican congressman reminded Fox News viewers that Democrats dedicated for years to the "Russia hoax" but do not want to allow four weeks for an investigation into this year's presidential election.

[Nov 14, 2020] Lost American

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For the past three or four days I have been wondering why the NY Post made this very sudden turn to supporting Joe Biden. For months we have had brilliant articles by Miranda Devine , Michael Goodwin, and others all in support of Trump and the America we have known for many years. Replies: @Realist REPLY AGREE/DISAGREE/ETC. THIS COMMENTER THIS THREAD HIDE THREAD


Lost American , says: November 10, 2020 at 2:10 pm GMT • 4.1 days ago

For the past three or four days I have been wondering why the NY Post made this very sudden turn to supporting Joe Biden. For years we have had brilliant articles by Miranda Devine , Michael Goodwin, and others all in support of Trump and the America we have known for many years, and all of a sudden the NY Post changed its views, but these columnists have not changed. They are too knowledgable and are gifted with common sense. I look forward to reading their columns or will the Post cancel culture them?

Raoul , says: November 10, 2020 at 2:50 pm GMT • 4.1 days ago

Any discussion of how to "work with" the Marxists is well, it just shouldn't be discussed. You can't work with Marxists. Besides, Trump won the election. This will be proven over the next few weeks.

Realist , says: November 10, 2020 at 3:35 pm GMT • 4.0 days ago
@follyofwar >

Fox is merely a tool for the Deep State they don't need viewers their wealth will come from the Deep State control of the economy.

Given Fox's about face and support of Biden, how much longer will it be before Tucker Carlson gets his walking papers?

That presupposes that Carlson is not a Deep State minion.

Oh well, Tucker doesn't need Fox either. He has millions of loyal listeners who will follow him whatever he decides to do.

It will not be of television. If the Deep State wants to cancel Carlson it will on any platform.

Realist , says: November 10, 2020 at 3:38 pm GMT • 4.0 days ago
@Cutler

OAN and Newsmax are exploding in popularity and yes Tucker ought to leave Faux News He will have more reach when he does.

The Deep State can end them as well. The only possible solution is to end the Deep State that will require a revolution.

[Nov 14, 2020] Should Tucker leave Faux News ?

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Cutler , says: November 10, 2020 at 11:28 am GMT • 4.2 days ago

@follyofwar

OAN and Newsmax are exploding in popularity and yes Tucker ought to leave Faux News He will have more reach when he does.

[Nov 13, 2020] The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans by Jef Costello

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The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans JEF COSTELLO NOVEMBER 9, 2020 3,000 WORDS 377 COMMENTS REPLY Tweet Reddit Share Share Email Print More

At this point, it seems unlikely that Trump is going to prevail in his legal challenges. It's possible that he will, but what do you think is more likely? If he doesn't prevail, however, Biden's "win" can actually be a tremendous win for us.

Why? Well, first let's address the question of who "we" are. I hate to sound like Joe Biden, who seems not to know who he is or where he is or what he's talking about from moment to moment (get ready for four years of hilarity, folks). But it's useful to remind ourselves of who we are from time to time. We are White Nationalists.

A White Nationalist is someone who believes that white peoples have a right to their own homelands. So that, as a White Nationalist, I am a German nationalist, an English nationalist, a Scottish nationalist, a French nationalist, etc . Or, at least, I support all those nationalisms. To be a white nationalist in America is really to recognize that the core "American people" are the white people whose ancestors built the country and who continue to pay for it. Thus, American White Nationalism = American nationalism. To be an American nationalist is also to recognize that more recent, non-white arrivals don't belong here at all; and that while our blacks have been here a long time and some of them do sing, dance, and dribble well, they are mostly parasites who contribute almost nothing to the society except grief.

Since it now looks impossible to go back to the good old days when we had blacks in complete subjection, and since both blacks and browns out-breed us, American nationalists essentially face two possible courses of action. The first is to remove non-whites from the country, which seems impossible at this point, or to remove ourselves. This latter course would mean that we all go back to Europe, which the Europeans won't allow, or that we effectively secede from the USA and carve out our own white space (or spaces) within North America. It is this latter option that now seems like it may be our only option, and something we must work toward.

So, how does Trump's loss help advance us in that goal? To state the obvious, white Americans will never work toward a white American homeland unless they are aware of themselves as White Americans; unless they see themselves as a group with distinct interests, and the moral right to assert those interests. "Awakening" white people has always been our goal as White Nationalists -- awakening whites in America, and in Europe. This awakening is far more important than any political figure, or any short-term political goals. This awakening is and ought to be our top priority.

When I first got involved in this movement, almost exactly twenty years ago, there were two questions that were constantly raised in my local "hate group": (1) When are white people going to wake up? And (2) will it take some kind of societal collapse to get them to wake up? Most of us thought that it would take such a collapse, but that this wouldn't happen in our lifetimes. Well, my friends, now it has happened. The collapse has occurred, and Trump's loss has brought it about.

The country was already fractured along political lines. Now it is completely broken. Conservatives, the overwhelming majority of whom are white, have long known that the media are biased to the Left and that the political establishment does not have their interests at heart. But they still believed in "the system." They believed that it still might be possible to work within the system and get somebody elected who would actually be their guy . Somebody who could bring the jobs home, stop the tide of non-white immigration, clean up the streets ( i.e. , do something about black crime), combat the politically correct madness, and get us out of the forever wars. The election of Donald Trump seemed to confirm this optimism.

But all the voices on the far-Right who labeled Trump "a distraction" have now been proved correct. Trump actually wound up doing little for white people -- despite being continually vilified by the Left as a white supremacist! Still, millions of whites not only continued to support him, they carried on a love affair with the man. Trump was adored by his base like no other American political figure in memory. Not even Reagan got this much love. The more vicious and unhinged the attacks on Trump became, the more his base supported him. They knew that his reelection would be no cakewalk, but they believed it was still possible.

They knew that the media and the Democrats would play dirty -- very dirty. But they trusted the electoral process. Or, at least, they hoped for the best. For months there was talk about voter fraud, primarily focused on the issue of mail-in ballots. But conservative whites still had faith that the system would work for them, as it did in 2016.

Now their faith has been completely and irreparably shattered. And this is hugely significant for us.

The first step toward real secession is psychological secession: seeing that though I still live in it, this is no longer my country, and there is no longer any hope of making the system work for me and those like me. This is exactly what the 2020 election has accomplished. About 57% of white people voted for Trump in this election. And those many millions of whites are now choking down a gigantic red pill. As we all know, the red pill is the path to liberation.

Quoth Tyler Durden: "Losing all hope was freedom."

It seems that there is credible evidence that there was voter fraud in the election, benefitting Biden. As I write this, Trump's legal team is preparing to fight it -- but, as I have already said, I think that they will lose. Ultimately, it does not matter whether or not there was fraud, or whether the fraud was enough to swing the election to Biden (two separate issues). What matters is that white Trump voters believe that there was.

Trump voters are now, ironically, in sort of the same position as Democrats in the wake of 2016. No matter how much we would like to, none of us will ever forget the "Russian interference!" and "Russia collusion!" hysteria that went on for the better part of two and a half years, until the Mueller report more or less put the thing out of its misery (though not entirely). The difference, however, is that that was all bullshit. And a significant number of Democrats knew it. Trump voters actually have very good reasons to think that this election was stolen.

Regardless of what we eventually learn about whether sharpies can cause ballots to be misread, or whether a "glitch" flipped Trump votes to Biden votes, there is still ample reason for the 70 million Trump voters to think that this thing was rigged. In the months preceding the election, America saw a massive overreach of state and local government power in the form of COVID lockdowns, the net effect of which was to ruin far more lives than it saved. Is it paranoia to think that the intention here was to crash the economy and render Trump unelectable?Consider: Virtually the entire media was not only against Trump, but made it their personal mission to take him down by any means necessary. No lie, no distortion was too ridiculous or too scurrilous. Leftists in government, journalism, academia, and the entertainment industry openly declared that anything and everything was permissible in order to take down the "existential threat" posed by Orange Man. This was the fertile ground onto which were sowed the seeds of speculation about election fraud.

The lockdowns coincided with months of coordinated rioting billed as "protests" against non-existent "racial injustice." The rioters somehow weren't subject to the rules of the lockdowns, because apparently COVID takes a holiday when it is politically expedient. This double standard was so obscene and so blatant, it enraged Republican voters (as well as a few honest rank and file Democrats of my acquaintance).

The Left calculated, correctly, that Trump would do little or nothing to stop the rioting, out of fear of looking too dictatorial in an election year. Trump's own calculation was that allowing the riots to happen would give the Left plenty of rope with which to hang itself. Trump was wrong; his inaction made him seem weak. The basic hope of the Left was that months of economic and social chaos would fatally wound Trump, and that voters would be too stupid to see that it was actually the Left that was to blame for it. In the main, it looks like they were right about this.

But diehard Trump supporters correctly saw that the lockdowns and riots were an election year strategy hatched by the Left. If they were not wholly designed by the Left to damage Trump, they were at least manipulated for that purpose. The cherry on the cake came in the weeks leading up to the election, in the form of big tech's censorship of news damaging to Biden, including blocking the New York Post 's stories about Biden's involvement in his son's shady business deals. This classically Orwellian move finally reached an extreme few would ever have even thought possible, when at last social media began censoring the President himself.

Given all of this, it would be unreasonable not to think that this election was stolen. Trump's supporters believe this -- every last one of them. And they will never stop believing it. Mark my words: this is never, ever going away. Trump voters will go to their graves believing that the election was stolen, and feeling as passionately about it as they do right now, less than a week after polls closed. They will go to their graves hating Leftists (as they rightfully should), and believing that the system is broken beyond repair.

"But," so your objection will go, "the fact that these white Trump voters will become disillusioned with the system does not mean that they will become self-aware white advocates."

My contention, however, is that what begins as disillusionment with the system will, in many cases (a great many cases, I believe) lead to increasing racial consciousness, or open the door to it. Take it from me -- from my own personal experience: once you have accepted that one big thing is a total sham, you begin to wonder whether everything else is. And if you keep going this way, you eventually begin wondering whether wrong is right; whether everything we've ever been told is false and bad might be true and good.

And the fact is that white Trump voters are already far more racially aware than the naysayers in the comments section will give them credit for. Trumpism is an implicitly white phenomenon if ever there was one. And it is implicit only in the sense that its supporters are too tactful and too fearful to name it for what it is -- not in the sense that they are unaware of what it is. We all thought that the media and the Leftists had lost their minds when they damned Trump and his supporters as racists and white supremacists. But they weren't crazy. They grasped, much more clearly than Republicans, what the vector of the Trump movement was -- where it might be headed. They correctly saw that a movement that offered a home to millions of white Americans upset by non-white immigration (euphemistically called "illegal immigration") might eventually give birth to self-aware white advocacy. When they called the Trumpites "racists" it was like seeing the oak tree in the acorn.

As perceptive as the Left was on that particular score, they have, as we all know, been remarkably deaf, dumb, and blind in other ways. Biden's share of the popular vote (if legitimate) is by no means a landslide. There is no "mandate" for looney Leftism, and no "repudiation" of Trump (indeed, Trump did expand his base -- though in one crucial area, as I will shortly discuss, it shrank). But that won't stop Leftists like AOC, and many others, from imagining that they have a mandate for all their craziness.

Therefore, expect the anti-white rhetoric to pick up steam. And, needless to say, this will help the process along in a big way: white Trump voters will think for five minutes and realize that they are at the mercy of a system that is demonstrably rigged against them and wills their destruction. If they haven't realized it already. That image of the McCloskeys with their guns facing down the brown hoard is unlikely to fade anytime soon. And what happened to the McCloskeys has now happened to all white Americans: despised, cornered, and now disarmed. (The literal disarmament is right around the corner, if the runoff elections in Georgia deliver the Senate to the Democrats.)

We are nevertheless still at a point where whiteness remains implicit. Whites dare not speak out in their own defense -- not explicitly as whites, anyway. Populist journalists like Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, and Pat Buchanan, who are privately on our side, still speak in coded language, avoiding open advocacy for whites. However, the coded language (as the Left also correctly sees) is becoming easier to decode by the day. As many on our side have said, we will make no real and substantial progress until we are willing to openly stand up for ourselves -- in person, in broad daylight, and without sock puppets and noms de plume like "Jef Costello." Is that day imminent? I believe that it is.

What would it take? First, it would take white self-awareness -- and I have argued that this is already there, emerging from its cocoon. Second, it would take anger . It would take whites being pushed to a point where they are so angry they speak and behave imprudently , damning the consequences. If one does it, he will simply be squashed; fired, censored, canceled, deplatformed. If many do it, that's a different story. They can't fire us all. And if that anger is great enough, they will fear us. They should. As Don Jr. recently tweeted , "70 million pissed off Republicans and not one city burned to the ground." But this may not last. The election might just be the proverbial straw. The camel may be about to metamorphose into the lion.

Already there are signs of uncharacteristic self-assertion on the part of angry Trump voters. There have been large protests by Republicans in "swing states," including Michigan and Pennsylvania. There has been violence. Continuing the lockdowns will exacerbate this. Everybody, not just whites, has reached the breaking point with this COVID bullshit. Of course, now that Biden is elected, it would not be surprising if COVID suddenly became a non-issue.

Here are some more predictions:

Trump has now moved over to Gab , a free-speech platform that has embraced thought criminals of all kinds (so far). Trump's supporters will follow him to Gab -- millions of them. They will read the other stuff and become more red-pilled. You can almost predict this one with mathematical certainty.

Gun sales will increase as Trump voters scramble to arm themselves before Biden tries to disarm them. Gun sales have increased enormously since the BLM riots began, so much so that the stores cannot keep up with demand. Ammo sales have been so brisk it's now hard to find bullets for those guns. (Yes, I do believe we are headed for violent civil war .)

Conspiracy theories are going to be mainstreamed. This process was already underway, due partly to the influence of "QAnon." I tried reading the QAnon book , with the intention of writing something about it for this website. I stopped because the thing was so stupid I couldn't get through it. If this stuff can be influential among Trump voters, anything can. Alex Jones is all over Gab. The Trumpites who follow their leader over to that platform will get a big dose of him -- and about 60% of what he says is actually true. He was talking about Epstein's pedo island years ago.

One thing leads to another -- once, as I have said, a big lie is exposed, one begins to question everything else. Who really runs the world? Who controls US policy in the Middle East? What's Bohemian Grove all about? Exactly how long does it take to cremate a single body? Inquiring minds want to know. Let a thousand conspiracy theories bloom! Every one of them helps us, because every one of them undermines the system and the elites who run it.

White males are the only group Trump did not make gains with in 2020. Given his portrayal in the media, the irony here is rich, as Jim Goad has noted. Had Trump gotten more votes from white males, it looks like he would have outvoted even the dead and the fake voters. As Gregory Hood has pointed out, "the reason President Trump is in this position is because he didn't do enough for white working-class voters ." He continues: "White working-class voters are now the most important voting group in America. They will have decided two presidential elections in a row. They will decide more."

The Republican establishment cannot be unaware of this. They've seen the same numbers Hood has. If they did not realize it before, they realize it now. There will be absolutely no going back to the Republican party of John McCain and Mitt Romney. Those names are hard to pronounce now without gagging. That they were the Republican nominees in, respectively, 2008 and 2012 now seems downright surreal. That is how much Trump has changed the party. To save that party, Republicans will have to offer something to white voters. They will have to keep running the Trump train, without Trump. (Though Trump is not going away; he will remain a huge part of public life.)

Everyone thinks 2020 has been a terrible year. It is just the opposite. White nationalism has taken a giant step forward.

Thanks, Joe!


Priss Factor , says: Website November 10, 2020 at 5:39 am GMT • 3.6 days ago

White Liberationist is better.

For the time being, as long as Jews play the gane of Whites vs Diversity, whites should play a game of Jews vs Gentiles.

Go Palestinians.

And tell blacks that Jews exploit them for profits.

Tell Mexicans that Jews hog all the wealth.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 10, 2020 at 7:46 am GMT • 3.5 days ago

To be an American nationalist is also to recognize that more recent, non-white arrivals don't belong here at all; and that while our blacks have been here a long time and some of them do sing, dance, and dribble well, they are mostly parasites who contribute almost nothing to the society except grief.

The author makes a lot of cogent and well-reasoned points, but his delivery lacks nuance and has a coarseness which suggests prejudice to the point of racism.

Not that I am accusing the author of being a racist at all – but in the field of persuasion, a biased narrative produces polarisation, either confirming or disputing one's preconceived beliefs.

I suggest adjusting the author's arguments to recognise the actual fundamental issue in play, which is not skin colour or race or language, but CULTURE. Yes, no doubt, the historical currents and ill-conceived government policies have herded different parcels of humanity into differing contexts on the basis of their racial backgrounds, but while the identifying characteristics (and idiotic government-enabled victim industries) may be numerically associated with skin colour, the actual behavioural differentiations are determined by the collective CULTURE adopted by each individual within their respective communities.

Allow me a simplistic example here. By government policy, an Australian is recognised as Koori (and entitled to all the government benefits, handouts, preferential treatment and other assistance that Koori status attracts) if he/she can demonstrate that they have at least 1/16 Koori blood. What a boon to the Australian "Aboriginal Industry", a government-spawned victim industry par-excellence, whose client-base and professional employment potential is thereby magically multiplied 10-fold compared a Koori threshold limited to just full and half-bloods (do the math).

As would be expected, a great many people are all too eager to pile onto this "victim" gravy train. Never mind that the bulk of them are white.

And the really warped thing about all of this, is that all those whiteys whose great great grandmother or grandfather may have been a Koori, baited by the siren-song of government entitlements and victim rights, all too often fall into the trap of government dependency and economic despondency that afflicts so many of the victim industry's clientelle.

It's not language or race or skin colour, its CULTURE. Egged along by idiotic government officials and vested interests.

Here in Australia, my view is that you're either Australian, or you're not. All other considerations are secondary. That applies equally to foreign and domestic policy, and equally to the native-born and immigrants. Until we come to understand and accept that proposition, the NATION will be hobbled.

So too with the USA. Mind you, it appears to me that the USA's CULTURAL issues are rather more entrenched and vulnerable to vested interests than in Australia (so far). If they can't be resolved, then we may be looking at eventual disintegration into several nations, irrespective of race.

Boomthorkell , says: November 10, 2020 at 8:14 am GMT • 3.5 days ago

Urrah!

Really, it's these exciting and dark times when real change happens. The Kali Yuga beckons us all onwards! I look forward to that future thing which American Nationalism will give birth to. I just hope it involves dragons, somehow, somewhere. Maybe on a flag.

Questioner , says: November 10, 2020 at 9:08 am GMT • 3.5 days ago

Your premise of a "white homeland" in North America is problematic at best, since the territory was already occupied by First Nations of indigenous peoples who clearly were the first to make such a claim on these lands, which stood until the continent was stolen from them by white people. A just reckoning of homelands begins with recognizing their prior rights here first, and then assessing where in the world it is best to park our itinerant white asses. But as you say, we've already forfeited our place in our actual white homelands in Europe and elsewhere in the Old World. So maybe we can negotiate paying rent, on these lands we occupy, to the poor survivors of the genocide we enacted to claim "our" home.

animalogic , says: November 10, 2020 at 9:31 am GMT • 3.4 days ago

"Most of us thought that it would take such a collapse, but that this wouldn't happen in our lifetimes. Well, my friends, now it has happened.'
Reminds me of Mr Twain & his comment that reports of his death have been greatly exaggerated .
The author's race nationalism is sad, to say the least. As if "white" comes with a label. (And never mind all the Legal/Property issues that would arise -- imagine sorting out an Olympic sized pool of cooked spaghetti .)
"that we effectively secede from the USA and carve out our own white space (or spaces) within North America. It is this latter option that now seems like it may be our only option, and something we must work toward."
But having sorted out the labels "White", citizens can play " India 1947 -- the Partion" : you know, that wonderful time when millions of Hindus moved south & millions of Muslims moved north. Death toll somewhere between a couple of hundred thousand to a couple of million. I wonder who will get the bulk of the Oligarchs ? Where will those tribal Oligarchs feel more comfortable ?
Mexicans & Asians -- wonder whether they'll be welcome ? Turn away the Asians especially, will go a long way to guaranteeing failure.
The saddest thing of all ? Assume all the race issues are settled -- & you still have 101 other political issues to deal with .Unless, of course, the author simply wants to transfer the status quo to his new racial Eden .Wow, what a triumph that would be.

Based Lad , says: November 10, 2020 at 10:11 am GMT • 3.4 days ago

Succinct analysis of the giddy optimistic feeling I've been having

Cutler , says: November 10, 2020 at 11:15 am GMT • 3.4 days ago

Of course Europeans and people outside of Europe of European descent are waking and beginning to take our own side This is the inevitable reaction to our ( mostly ) hostile elite, Politics as usual/ MSM etc are all in decline and no amount of censorship is changing these trends. Matthew Goodwin and Roger Eatwell in National Populism The revolt against liberal democracy are amongst many who see this happening. The trend is towards Nationalism away from the Multiculti cult and its champions on tv etc. The silent majority in all White nations are less silent with every passing year.

Good read.

RoatanBill , says: November 10, 2020 at 12:18 pm GMT • 3.3 days ago

Great article.

I've long considered myself a political exile. I left the US because I couldn't stand it any more. The insanity of the laws, the always increasing police state was something I saw but others apparently didn't.

If states start to secede and Texas is one of them, I'll move back. The Fed Gov is the main problem and needs to totally disappear. When the USA goes the way of the USSR, then you'll know there's a chance for freedom.

Etruscan Film Star , says: November 10, 2020 at 12:42 pm GMT • 3.3 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave accident? Rain falling here but not there?

The history of race relations in the past 60 years or so has been based on your assumption, that everyone is the same but environments create cultures that make them seem different. It's a claim that's impossible to disprove, because you can define any traits as cultural, and is therefore meaningless. Nevertheless, in practical real-life terms all you have to do is look at how various groups behave in many different locations and even different times, to see that something is at work besides culture.

And failing to acknowledge biodiversity leads to the absurd victimization industry that has brought us to the brink of race war.

Based Lad , says: November 10, 2020 at 5:15 pm GMT • 3.1 days ago
@Questioner

"warriors of the Powhatan "came unarmed into our houses with deer, turkeys, fish, fruits, and other provisions to sell us". The Powhatan then grabbed any tools or weapons available and killed all the English settlers they found, including men, women, and children of all ages. Chief Opechancanough led the Powhatan Confederacy in a coordinated series of surprise attacks; they killed a total of 347 people, a quarter of the population of the Virginia colony."

Oh no those poor natives. Maybe they should have avoided a fight they couldn't win. There's a reason we call them savages.

Questioner , says: November 10, 2020 at 5:46 pm GMT • 3.1 days ago
@Based Lad

Yours is a strange logic, on the subject of homelands. But I believe there's a term for it: "Blame the victim."

CCZ , says: November 10, 2020 at 6:37 pm GMT • 3.1 days ago

"The difference, however, is that that was all bullshit."

But, as the programmer Alberto Brandolini is reputed to have said: "The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." This is the unbearable asymmetry of bullshit .

https://www.theifod.com/brandolinis-law-the-bullshit-asymmetry-principle/

Justvisiting , says: November 10, 2020 at 7:49 pm GMT • 3.0 days ago
@CCZ

asymmetry of bullshit

Good post.

There are so many massive lies out there that are still believed by many of the stupid masses brainwashed by mass media, the universities, and a variety of other large institutions.

You can't fix stupid.

So–my crystal ball is very foggy at this point.

(If you think about cultures in the history of the human race, all were based on a bunch of lies. As Terence McKenna liked to say–nowhere is it written that we apes are entitled to learn the truth about anything.)

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 10, 2020 at 8:47 pm GMT • 3.0 days ago
@Etruscan Film Star in parallel with the whole racial profiling paradigm is the same idea applied to religion, wherein George Dubya whipped up his "civilisational struggle" against the Muslim world to facilitate American games of Empire. To the extent that any problem actually exists, religion is a red herring. Here in Australia, Muslim people are amongst the most genuine and charitable people that one can meet. In my experience, the only tiny minority of Muslim people who have caused friction are invariably of Arab origin, and more specifically from Saudi Arabia – an inherently tribal & chauvinistic culture (and a key American ally in the Middle East – just sayin').

Race & religion are distractions. Compatible cultures can assimilate in a harmonious society, while incompatible cultures cannot.

Rosie , says: November 10, 2020 at 9:54 pm GMT • 2.9 days ago
@Priss Factor

For the time being, as long as Jews play the gane of Whites vs Diversity, whites should play a game of Jews vs Gentiles.

If Jews can lead a multicultural coalition against Whites, then Whites can lead a multicultural coalition against Jews. This is their worst nightmare, and almost everything they do is best understood as an attempt to prevent this.

Tulip , says: November 10, 2020 at 11:47 pm GMT • 2.8 days ago

This latter course would mean that we all go back to Europe, which the Europeans won't allow, or that we effectively secede from the USA and carve out our own white space (or spaces) within North America. It is this latter option that now seems like it may be our only option, and something we must work toward.

Jez, they say I am a dreamer, and all I want is a free pony and some government cheese.

Random Anonymous , says: November 11, 2020 at 3:21 am GMT • 2.7 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

I suspect that Australians are several decades behind Americans in discovering that your perspective, which basically is what we called civic nationalism, is largely false and has now largely failed. I don't have time to even sketch this, but you can look for critiques of civic nationalism and for concepts like regression to the mean. I hope you can learn from our experience.

Malla , says: November 11, 2020 at 4:19 am GMT • 2.7 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave and snotty racist Europeans and Japanese kept the revolutionary masses down. The opposite is the truth, it were the Europeans who were revolutionary folks (French revolution/Enlightenment anyone) trying to spread modernism over racist, parochial, reactionary, tribal darkie populations and the whole thing ended in tears and trumped up charges against Whitey dreamt up by Jews, marxists and third World Nationalists/ elites. Same with Japanese Empire which too was driven by the Pan Asian ideology. The Chinese too will be rejected by the darkie masses in the future, they too will face trumped up charges for "exploitation" and "oppression" in the future, it has already started right now.
TG , says: November 11, 2020 at 4:45 am GMT • 2.6 days ago

One comment:

"and since both blacks and browns out-breed us,"

I do not deny that there are differences between the races. However, breeding is not one of them.

Ever since the end of slavery, American blacks have had moderate numbers of children, essentially the same whites. Yes, really. Why do you think, after all these centuries, pre-1965 American blacks are still hardly more than 10% of the population?

Actually the fraction of blacks in the United States is lower than it used to be – the Grover-Cleveland cheap-labor immigration surge, that drove wages so low and profits so high, was all from (at the time) white third-world Europe, and increased the white fraction of the population. Because white europeans at the time bred more than black Americans!

So yes, during the 19th century and up through Mao, the Chinese bred like rabbits and lived lives of total misery. After Mao, the Chinese fertility rate was allowed to moderate, and now China is doing very well. Is there anything genetic in the Chinese people for either high or or low fertility rates? No. This at least, is entirely cultural.

Are there genetic differences between the races? Yes. Is excessive breeding one of them? No.

Malla , says: November 11, 2020 at 4:55 am GMT • 2.6 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave in Western societies on average than MENA and South Asians, even the African blacks, who have much more deeper cultures than New World blacks, they all integrate fast into Western cultures but they tend to ebonyify everything. But they bring with them some negative traits like tendency towards violence, crime, chip on the shoulder mentality, melanin power mentality, seeing racism everywhere etc So culturally they integrate faster but the skin colour difference creates resentments and temperament differences still exist. On the positive side blacks are not clannish as the darker Eurasian semi Caucasoids and have an individualistic tendency which does gel well with individualistic Northern Euros.
sb , says: November 11, 2020 at 10:00 am GMT • 2.4 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

I get the feeling that you think that "Koori "' is a synonym for "aboriginal "

It isn't . ( go and look it up yourself )

Ralph Seymour , says: November 11, 2020 at 4:53 pm GMT • 2.1 days ago
@RoatanBill

Agreed. That's the only way I'm coming back as well.

I was just in the US for a month and it appears things are deteriorating quickly.

Cauchemar du Singe , says: November 11, 2020 at 6:28 pm GMT • 2.1 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

Your wilful avoidance of race specific genetics in determination of behavior and capability is glaring.

Cauchemar du Singe , says: November 11, 2020 at 6:52 pm GMT • 2.1 days ago
@Ralph Seymour

I was away from Polaris Parkway, just North of Westerville and Worthington, Ohio, for a couple of months and things have deteriorated quickly.
This also happened to Epstein Best Bud, Les Wexner's pet project Easton Town Center, close to New Albany Wexner's British Village Fantasyland.
The common factor in deterioration is wait for it

Blacks and Browns, managed by jews.

Philadelphia Block Busting, 60 years later, same demographic players.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 11, 2020 at 7:39 pm GMT • 2.0 days ago
@sb understand that the Australian aboriginals were not a uniform race across the Australian continent. The Tasmanian Aboriginals were quite different to their continental counterparts, but even the mainlanders were not racially homogenous. The racial makeup of the native peoples of Papua & New Guinea are completely different again.

A broad analogy can be drawn with the various black races occupying the African continent – their skin colour doesn't uniquely define their respective races. For an extreme example, compare the Congo Pygmies of central Africa with the Rwandan Tutsis.

I do take your point, however – rather than qualify the Kooris as Australian for a potentially global audience, perhaps it is simpler to just refer generically to native Australians..

Ultrafart the Brave , says: November 11, 2020 at 7:53 pm GMT • 2.0 days ago
@Random Anonymous rect.

I hope you can learn from our experience.

One might think so, but apparently not. Instead, in so many ways the Australian culture seems to be marching in suicidal lockstep with the USA, like the mythical lemmings toward the proverbial cliff.

An appalling example of this is the insidious slide of the Australian medical system over the last few decades from a universally free model to a for-profit one infested with middle men and insurance rackets, presumably on a trajectory towards a full-blown American-style Big-Pharma business model with the poor folk thrown under the bus.

The rich get richer, & the poor get the picture.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 11, 2020 at 8:24 pm GMT • 2.0 days ago
@Malla rt of thinking aligns somewhat with reports of homecoming head-chopping ISIS psychos being sent to reeducation camps in Xinjiang, China. The local indigenous population apparently is doing just fine, but returning extremists trained for genocidal wars in the Middle East no longer fit in.

Here's a true story which helps to illustrate that the principle of cultural harmony transcends race, and even species. I was raised on a farm, and on this farm were herds of sheep and also some turkeys. One particular sheep somehow got it into her head that she was a turkey. She would follow the turkey flock around all day, and at night, she would roost in a tree with the turkeys. The turkeys didn't seem to mind, and the sheep seemed quite happy. Compatible cultures.

True story.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:10 am GMT • 1.6 days ago

The stolen election is like Jewish control of the media. EVERYBODY, even Biden voters know this SELECTION/ELECTION WAS STOLEN, but like Jewish control of the media, we are demanded to pretend it doesn't exist or never happened.

No Trump fan here, but I voted for the Orange Man because of the alternative. I still have hope that Team Trump can turn this around. All the Jew/Israel butt kissing aside and the broken promises and holding meetings with (c)rappers, Trump did expose the "normies" to the FAKE MEDIA. Hell, that is more than any other modern day POTUS has done for Whites. Can someone tell me when was the last time Whites had a true representative in the White House that actually looked out for White Americans and was concerned about White civil rights? I am pushing 60 and we haven't had one in my lifetime for sure.

Truth , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:39 am GMT • 1.6 days ago

The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans

Well now, that's kind of the whole point.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/iNkrF43SZEU?feature=oembed

Ilya G Poimandres , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:48 am GMT • 1.6 days ago

So that, as a White Nationalist, I am a German nationalist, an English nationalist, a Scottish nationalist, a French nationalist, etc.

I think if we take it as far as Hitler, we are also Chinese nationalists, and Japanese nationalists etc – those nations can develop in their spheres – and so much the better for them. But they may not force themselves on us (or others).

This whole article is based on the Susan Sarandon premise in 2016 when Bernie lost – that a Trump win would inspire the base to elect a progressive, caring left wing politician. This didn't turn out – the system got rigged for about as establishment a criminal as could have been chosen.

Article 10 is not easy to execute. The right may have honour and guns, but the left is TDSed, and rabies is one strong steroid to help with a fight!

In addition there is no real leader – one who could strategise a secession effectively. Trump certainly couldn't. He'd be great as the PR guy, but not as the leader. Until one is born, America is stuck within the belly of the US beast.

Majority of One , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:10 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

There is a Tribe, which in the main, can be described as Culture Vultures.

Wally , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:24 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@Cutler

Author Costello said:
"Had Trump gotten more votes from white males, it looks like he would have outvoted even the dead and the fake voters."

Nope.

Costello misses the point that the curious count stoppage was a pause to enable the left to manufacture the votes that they then anticipated needing in lieu of the largely pro-Trump turnout numbrs. And, any unanticipated pro-Trump surge could have easily been overcome by having a reserve at the ready.
IOW:
Regardless of who had voted for Trump, they simply would have been overcome by the left creating more fake votes for Biden.

Majority of One , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:25 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@Malla ir level of verisimilitude.

I would add materialist values and urbanization to the blend. All my ancestry emanated from Scandinavia. After checking out several major cities during the years of my young manhood, I returned to a rural, homesteading life.

Working with my hands and body is important to my well-being. Seasonally, living on the northwestern fringe of the Northwoods, winters are long and arduous -- a good time for artistic and intellectual pursuits. The soul has its needs, as Thomas Moore pointed out in his book "Growth of the Soul". My needs center on living close to the mother of us all. Northeast Asians and Northwest Europeans share much in this perspective.

Zarathustra , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:32 am GMT • 1.6 days ago

Not too many answers to why and to what purpose but still a brilliant article.
Generals love the war, soldiers not so much.
There is lingering question in my mind! The question is: Who loves more war, Israel , or seventeen intelligence agencies with General staff.
But for the time being I am very much against any radical solution.
I am with Trump's "Stand down and stand by".
I think Biden also does deserve a chance to come up with solutions.
But if Biden starts a new war than everything will be justified and Final solution will become inevitable.

Majority of One , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:37 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@TG k up a feast. The younger children enjoy their own fun and games. The older ones help their samesex parents. During the evening after supper, the bottles get passed around and sometimes there is music and perhaps dancing.

The bulk of the Amish -- and the Mennonites -- emerged from an Anabaptist culture in Switzerland and parts of Germany and during the late 17th Century many of them relocated to Lanacaster County Pennsylvania, from which they have now colonized westwards wherever there is the possibility of true country living. Not many of them migrate past the 90th Meridian, where poor soil and semi-arid conditions are poorly conducive to agriculture and cozy country living.

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:41 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@Questioner

The Siberians weren't first, they aren't nations, and they never made any claims to this country.

No one genocided any Siberians.

Every word in your post is a pack of lies, including the "and" and "The"

Gleimhart Mantooso , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:45 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@Questioner

Okay, Schlomo.

The Real World , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:52 am GMT • 1.6 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave s have manipulated much in America in the last 50 years and that is the bigger reason for what are marketed as 'cultural clashes'. Most of them are bogus and engineered.

Race & religion are distractions. Compatible cultures can assimilate in a harmonious society, while incompatible cultures cannot.

Agree, again, I'd use the term: shared or accepted values.

(Fwiw, I'm willing to go the step further and view the author as a likely racist and supremacist. Most people like that have lived sheltered lives and had little exposure to a variety of peoples. Many of their assertions are simply empty and unaware of ahem the real world.)

Syd Walker , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 6:55 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

If Brexit ranks NINE on the Collective Self-Harm for No Good Reason scale, proposing a civil war in the 21st century to create a "whites only" state in North America is so nutty it breaks the dial.

Thomasina , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:59 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

"At this point, it seems unlikely that Trump is going to prevail in his legal challenges."

If the courts follow the letter of the law, Trump WILL prevail.

freedom-cat , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:03 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

No thanks. I'd rather go back to Europe.

But We'll give you MT, ND, SD, WY, IA, NB, KS, and Maybe OK. That way you can all go back to growing crops and digging oil (ND) for your subsistence. Every place else is getting too mixed for you.

Maybe if you're nice the Hawaiians will let you vacation on their islands occasionally to get a break from long cold winters.

Blue Collar Mike , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:13 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

Though a lame and uninsightful article on the whole, the strategy of and desire for secession is the healthiest conclusion that the author could have been reached. I would just hope that when whites within the ethnostate inevitably conflict with the ethnogovernment that he would also want for them to secede.

Johnny Caine , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:22 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

I can always tell a jerkoff who never served in the military.

Stonehands , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:28 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

What a simple morality play for the banking elites (who own both parties through "lobbying, i.e. bribery" sanctioned by the highest courts) to divide and conquer the taxcattle.

You are arguing over who you pay Tribute to. This is a golden opportunity for mass civil disobedience to overwhelm and bury the decrepit, imperial corporatist oligarchy.

Macumazahn , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:40 am GMT • 1.5 days ago
@Questioner

The stone-age aboriginals who previously inhabited what is now America failed to defend their lands from invasion. Sadly, we've learned nothing from their mistakes.

Stonewall Jackson , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:46 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

Ronnie Unz needs to weigh in here Give the little cretin credit for posting this of course.

Ronnie you are about to get your brown invasion that you so crave good and hard. Of all the things that the globalist elites want in electing this moron demented POS called Biden is an open border

Here it comes Ronnie Won't you and your bro Cholo loving Reed be soooo very happy

Amnesty is going to be served up as one of the first acts of Shithead Biden's administration

Rejoice Ronnie . More poverty crossing the border to cut your grass.. And a bigger mass of people for the welfare state

Of course you think that maids and dry wall hangers are natural conservatives I beg to differ Where i live in Virginia they are natural clients of our welfare offices. We are ground zero for the Welfare Dreamers who come from Central America.

I don't have to gaze into my navel and dream up some statistics about this you insipid moron I can walk down the street to the Socialist Service office and see it for my own eyes.

Yes Ronnie White Nationalist failed thanks to shitheads like you . Now asshole enjoy paying California taxes to support open door poverty

Virginia is we are now on par to have California style taxes to support the brown wave.

Your Buddy Reed had a good plan for escaping that I believe he used to be a Virginian he moved to where the cholos are leaving!

As to this article right!! Cucked whites are doing shit. They'll be called racists and shrivel up like a daisy in a wind storm.

Frankie P , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:51 am GMT • 1.5 days ago
@Priss Factor he Jewish agenda. Why don't we have a Herve Ryssen here in the US? Why don't we have an Alain Soral, publishing prolifically and SELLING books to the deplorable French yellow vests? Why don't we have a comedian like Dieudonne, poking fun at the organized community and its endless wailing about its victimhood? We need more strong voices, willing to point out the fact that there is NO SUCH THING as "Judeo-Christian values"; the very idea grew out of a poison, Scofield Reference Bible influenced swamp, a hideous swamp monster feeding on bleating Christian Zionist sheep, baa baa baaing as their wealth and futures are extracted by the oligarch Jews.

Speak out folks!

Just another serf , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:56 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

It seems, based on much video, as well as the geographic centers of this fraud, that negroes played a disproportionate role in the illegal election activities. Now that does seem counter intuitive, as negroes are overwhelming honest, law abiding citizens.

I can only imagine that it was some small group of Jews that bribed our colored brethren to engage in this thoroughly out of character misbehavior that may well lead to violent, bloody national upheaval.

If only we had employed a larger share of our negro population in the various lucrative advertisement opportunities, thereby sparing them from a life of soul crushing poverty. We might have saved the nation, had we been kinder to our minority Black population.

utu , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:59 am GMT • 1.5 days ago

"A White Nationalist is someone who believes that white peoples have a right to their own homelands." – White Americans forfeited this right the moment they began bringing African slaves here. Advocacy for white nationalism in America is advocacy for secession or genocide. If you have no stomach for advocating genocide of non-whites in America you must advocate for carving out white homeland for white nationalists. This homeland no long will represent America or be America, so you no longer will be American white nationalist but white 'bantustan' nationalist. If you lucky the rest of America will let you have casinos in your bantustan.

noname27 , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 9:42 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

YOU are a part of the problem and your infantile, asinine handle proves it.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:42 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Questioner

The karma of the U.S was always screwed from the day the vile white Euro invaders fucked with the natives and if there should be statues they should be of the likes of Geronimo and not white imperial scum.

May the spirits of all the slaughtered native North American Indians be smiling from ear to ear at the potentially very dangerous division in the middle country of North America.

noname27 , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 9:47 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

A very good article that raises a lot of valid points. White Supremacy is the ONLY way, that's what (((they))) call us, so ride with it – wear their labels with pride. Onwards and upwards!

"The goal of abolishing the white race is, on its face, so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed WHITE SUPREMACISTS .Make no mistake about it: we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as the white race is destroyed."

– Noel Ignatiev, Jewish Harvard professor and co-founder of 'Race Traitor' magazine.

silviosilver , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:51 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

It's not language or race or skin colour, its CULTURE. Egged along by idiotic government officials and vested interests.

Get lost idiot. Race is real and it matters. Fifty years of denying this obvious reality has only gotten us where we are today. Enough.

noname27 , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 9:52 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@utu

What makes you think White Americans brought blacks to America? America didn't even exist when black slavery commenced and the bulk of black slaves went to the Spanish colonies, not the American colonies.

silviosilver , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:54 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Questioner

A just reckoning of homelands begins with recognizing their prior rights here first,

A just reckoning also requires a statute of limitations on questions priority and a recognition of who actually built the country.

Besides, the 'native' tribes were already killing and displacing each other. They were mutually hostile, not united. Why should the addition of one more tribe to that warring mix – albeit a tribe whiter and more successful than the rest – make any difference? Ironically, it takes a 'racist' to claim that it does.

silviosilver , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:57 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Rosie

Agree, although Jews have a few advantages that make them much better at it, namely a couple thousand years experience operating as tiny minorities in others lands and a shameless hyperethnocentric instinct evidently lacking in white gentiles.

LondonBob , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:01 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

I looked at gab but it didn't seem very user friendly, problem is also everybody needs to cease using twitter and shift to gab at the same time, critical mass.

theMann , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:08 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@RoatanBill

Move back to Texas?

And where, amongst these face diapered morons and Covid fearing degenerates, will you find freedom?

America's problems are far greater than issues of Race, Politics, or Culture. At the core, the issue is complete Spiritual Collapse, manifested in craven cowardice, cringingly lickspittle obedience, mindless group think, and resolute belief in imaginary events.

This isn't going to end well for anyone. The spiritual death of America is as permanent as it is absolute.

The Alarmist , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:09 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

This latter course would mean that we all go back to Europe, which the Europeans won't allow .

You haven't been paying attention, sonny. The Europeans are busy trying to catch up with America's comparitive advantage by importing masses of similar types.

Tucker , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:10 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

Has anybody else besides myself noticed how fast Jared Taylor and his #1 prize writer, Gregory Hood – have cucked and caved in and conceded that the DemonRats won the 2020 Presidential election?

And, how each of these guys have now gone into full concession mode and are trying to persuade and influence their followers to join them in their cuckery and effeminate willingness to become submissive?

Also, I was listening to a recent Red Ice podcast where they had a slew of allegedly pro-white community spokesmen and women on to discuss the fraudulent and clearly obvious attempts by the Demonic leftists to steal the election and they were pushing a meme that I found more than a little bit disturbing.

It went something like this: Racially healthy Whites need to respond to this travesty by 'opting out' of the 'system'. This means that Whites need to stop participating; i.e., stop voting completely.

Alex Linder once said, when discussing the suicidal mindset of Whites who were infected with Christianity – and who we all have repeatedly heard on various talk radio call-in shows come on the
radio – after another leftist anti-white agenda victory and say: "Well, I will just continue to pray and leave things up to God" – Linder dubbed that kind of attitude by Whites as nothing more than pathetic excuse for them to continue to 'do nothing' to help themselves or their people. I agree.

This meme that 'Whites need to stop voting' is exactly the same kind of attitude. I am willing to concede the point that voting is senseless as long as the system continues to allow fraudulent and illegal chicanery to thrive and go unpunished. But, anyone who actively promotes the idea that Whites should just completely opt out is pushing advice that is exactly what our mortal enemies want most. It is a complete surrender to being ruled over by non-whites and jews who hate our guts and who do not want to encounter any opposition to their agenda to genocide our race of people.

Dr. Charles Fhandrich , [AKA "Anonymous"] says: November 12, 2020 at 10:16 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

Yes, the election WAS stolen, the democrats having admitted it themselves after four years of trying to get rid of president Trump, as they said, "BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE"!! So rational people are now to believe that they have suddenly become honest players in the 2020 election? As the saying goes, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT THOUGHT /..Dr. Charles Fhandrich.

mark green , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:36 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Stonewall Jackson sympathizing with some of your sentiments, Stonewall, but your mean-spirited discourse (directed towards our host, no less) is a textbook example of why Comments Sections (and some commentators) get edited–and even banned. Why take this route? It seems self-defeating.

Your disrespectful attitude undermines your appeal. It also diminishes this site.

Why not aim higher? Why not civility?

Ron Unz might be wrong here and there. But he is not a "moron". Making such claims makes you look like one.

Ron Unz has given the world a forum where countless and controversial and conflicting points of view are given oxygen and light. This is invaluable and rare.

Anonymous [661] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:47 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

This is probably the most profound and auspicious moment in modern American history. I would like to see Trump and the Republican party seize this moment by creating a parallel government. Imagine 71 million Americans standing solid and publicly announcing a resounding "Fuck you!" to the Jewish commies and all their colored cohorts.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:55 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@silviosilver

'Why should the addition of one more tribe to that warring mix make a difference?'

Because it was their homeland, unlike the Euro invaders of central North America and just try asking an elderly Palestinian how that feels.

And the different tribes may have been at war occasionally but this can hardly be compared to the mass slaughter of the Native North American Indians and their Bison(to try and starve them).

Ugetit , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:15 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans

Wow. Awesome.Yawn.

Who cares about pills when what this country really needs is a yoooge enema?

PS: There is no known cure for brain dead.

lavoisier , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 11:31 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave Most importantly, the lies attributing black dysfunction to white racism must stop immediately, and the government has to stop shoving diversity down our throats continuously.

Allow freedom of association, enforce the laws, stop making excuses for black dysfunction, and limit if not eliminate further immigration into the West from the Third World.

Perhaps then there can be some hope for us living together with a modicum of peace and prosperity.

But I agree with you that nothing is accomplished by referring to an entire group of people in completely disparaging terms.

That being said, black dysfunction has been and continues to be a serious problem that will not be resolved by blaming it on white racism.

anarchyst , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:35 am GMT • 1.4 days ago
@Frankie P , who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel's wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.
In a perverse sort of way, israel's favorite "war song" is "Onward Christian Soldiers"
There I've said it
glib , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:38 am GMT • 1.4 days ago

Will the redpilled understand that America has done this to many other countries, with many more dead, or will their new consciousness be limited to this particular event? Because the redpilled ones were always enthusiastic about new military adventures.

Ugetit , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:47 am GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Based Lad

If the warriors came unarmed, but wound up killing people instead, I'd wonder what took place in the interval. Something tells me we're only hearing one side and only a small part of the story.

As for avoiding a fight they couldn't win, what advantage would they have obtained if they just bent over and took it in the cheeks without a fight?

Maybe the reason "we" call them savages is called projection.

BTW, here's an example of what failing to fight will get ya,

[MORE]
Rogue , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:01 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Questioner

Subjugated people don't get to make the rules. The rules are made for them by the subjugaters.

This is not only true of the America's, or of White colonialism generally, but is true of the whole history of the world.

Just one example out of many:

North Africa is Arabic. But it wasn't until the Arabs conquered it. Why not lecture them and tell them to push off? Good luck with that.

trickster , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:21 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@theMann

Excellent comment

PolarBear , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:22 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Frankie P

Sam Hyde is our golden boy.

White Guy In Japan , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:23 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Questioner

NOT STOLEN!

CONQUERED!

Ugetit , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:25 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

Here's a heart warmer for Wally.

'My Friends Joe Biden and Kamala Harris': Netanyahu Speaks of His 'Warm Relationship' with US Democrats

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/my-friends-joe-biden-and-kamala-harris-netanyahu-speaks-of-his-warm-relationship-with-us-democrats/

Ozymandias , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:34 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Thomasina

If the courts follow the letter of the law, Trump WILL prevail

Since when have the courts been confined by the law? They believe themselves to be the law.

Jack McArthur , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:35 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

"But it's useful to remind ourselves of who we are from time to time. We are White Nationalist"

Nope.

Rogue , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:38 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave the sheep, in the Kruger park game reserve in South Africa.

An elephant that had some tests performed on it was going to be culled. However, in the end, they decided to release it back into the wild (within the reserve).

This elephant took it into it's head that it was an African buffalo!

It hung out with the buffalo herd, and started to emulate the buffaloes behavior. Initially, of course, the buffaloes were a tad leery of their new, very large friend – but eventually got used to him.

And the elephant provided plenty of muscle when it came to lions stalking the herd.

Ha ha.

Genuine story, not making this up.

sparky , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:42 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@christine

It seems like you got the Pocahontas version of history.
All I can say is that if some guys on horses abducted my daughter and then slowly tortured and scalpted her to death, you can be sure I wouldn't hesitate to genocide each and every one of those savages down to the last one. But let's not have facts interrupt your narcissistic moral masturbating. Just don't come here, coz in the end we'll end up laughing at you.

trickster , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:42 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Majority of One watermelon, they pass around the gin and juice and sit around smoking the chronic and endo. Guns and ammunition are then passed around and they all discuss that nights or the next days activities.

The bulk of the Negroes emerged from the African bush, sold by their own and competing tribes and have colonized all 52 states wherever there is the possibility of free living and handouts. Not many of them migrate to rural areas where country living and hard work would be considered racist and discriminatory.

We have to thank our black Bros and Sistas. Without their motto "there can be no construction without destruction" the USA would never be what it is today.

SittingBull , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:48 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

Ahhh This white man has put in a convincing case for himself and people like him and he has my total support. He and his people can have Wyoming and half of South Dakota, only half. Want some cows and mules? Take them. Take some white women also if they agree to go. And you must take Trump with you, he's white like you. Good luck.

DICARLO , says: November 12, 2020 at 12:55 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

Oh, thankyou, thankyou, but it isn't Whites who need to be lectured about being "racist". Whites aren't the problem. Whites aren't the haters.

DICARLO , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:00 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Questioner

White liberals cry crocodile tears when the jewsmedia reminds them how White settlers stole land formerly inhabited by American Indians. But, the fact is, every people alive in the world today stole the land they now live on from a weaker people. It's the history of mankind. Further, every Indian tribe in America at the time of Columbus had stolen their land from another tribe, and they continued warring and land stealing until the White man put a stop to it.

hillaire , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:00 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Questioner

This obsession with restitution and atonement, is replacing religion. Only a race too long comfortable would consider giving away to the defeated all they have accomplished and hard fought for.

Churchills jewish henchman, fake aristocrat and architect of the Dresden and associated slaughters frederick linderman mused that the defining event of the 20th century would be 'the abdication of the white man'.

The seeds of annihilation were sown in the late 19th century, now comes the reaping, aided ably by the mendacity, sloth and cowardice of our own peoples and leaders.

Rogue , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:03 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@mark green

Agreed.

(Can't use "agree" button).

Robjil , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:05 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

President Kushner or President Emhoff that is the question. Same old – Jewish "White" Supremacy. The "white" supremacy game of our "free" Zion press forgets to say which "whites" are supreme. Our "free" Zion press is right that there is a "white" group that is supreme but do not go into details which one. Unz site is one of the few sites that notices this "white" group that is supreme in the US and in the entire west.

https://www.wkrn.com/news/your-local-election-hq/harris-husband-to-quit-law-firm-for-white-house/

Vice President-elect Kamala Harris' husband, Doug Emhoff, will leave his job as a partner with a high-profile law firm to focus on his role in the new Biden administration.

A campaign spokeswoman said Tuesday that Emhoff will sever ties with DLA Piper by Inauguration Day. Emhoff took a leave of absence from the firm in August, when Harris was named Joe Biden's running mate. Biden and Harris will be inaugurated Jan. 20.

Emhoff is working with the transition team to determine the issues he will take on as the vice presidential spouse. He is the first man to hold that role, as Harris is the nation's first female vice president.

augusto , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:09 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

thanks mr Costelo for showing your thought crystal clear.
I a south american, am not entirely a contradictor to your views. And even share a few of them.
If you re a white US nationalist I am a Brazilian, no matter-what-color, nationalist.
A nationalist must necessarily abide by the Westphalia Peace and be a faithful son of the 1815 Wien Conference.
The first corolarium of a nationalist like you is , of course, abhorr and abolish globalism. This concedes a few exceptions (such as worlwide communications) since they are already in place and cannot be sensibly reverted.
NOTE 1:I do want to wipe out globalism. (though not for every small nation nation of the world, which would turn not applicable and counterproductive) away from my country for the next decades at least.
The second corolarium is that any self conscious country should cling and fiercely defend a strong list of protectionist laws. And entirely renegotiate the rusty, hegemonic leaning WTO rules. Not to quit it but to found a new WTO. This protection is what the US did all the the 19th century long, from top to bottom.
The third one that springs out as a consequence is that the STATE presence and adhesion to state owned companies in key sectors is vital to any nationalism.
Now the big criterium to enlight and tell things apart is: the less develoloped a country is the more
of state ownership and reliance it will requires.
So until my home country does reach a 40.000 dollar/year PER CAPITA income, with an acceptable
income distribution, I will be a feroucious nationalist just like Costello.
It is taken for granted that small places like Singagore, Uruguay, Andorra, Bosnia or seychelles can AT WILL make an option to globalize, to intenationalize, to sell themselves out to neighbor or to the best bidder.
No half words, no subtle or figurative language. And nobody must keep a secret as to what to do when a big , rich, established country the destroy this legitimate thir party Nationalism, annex or dominate the so described national entity.
Revolution, no less.

bjondo , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:18 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

Not President-elect Biden/Deep ShitState
time to concede the election.

Take your lies and leave.
America and Americans don't need you.

Johnny Smoggins , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:19 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Questioner

North American aboriginals would last about two weeks without the White man babysitting them.

Embarrassingly, aboriginals are the one group of people on earth even dumber and lazier than Africans.

geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:23 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Random Anonymous ti" future, they needed to introduce the intermediate step of civic nationalism, whereby anyone could be an American as long as they were willing to assimilate into the dominant culture. Hence, Israel Zangwill's The Melting-Pot .

Thus, civic-nationalism represented the proverbial camel poking its nose through the tent before entering it completely. Once Westerners became acclimated to having non-Westerners living among themselves, the assimilationist approach slowly began to be transformed into the multicultural framework, one in which the overarching objective of dismantling "white supremacy" was slowly unfurled. This is where we find ourselves today.

Miha , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:26 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Tucker

Like sensible people, I think they understand that America is never going to be another Orania.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orania,_Northern_Cape
It's possible to get a deeper appreciation of the roots of America's social crisis America by reading Thomas Sowell who has uniquely, I think, shown that patronizing guilt-ridden whites (those that were) over the decades bear a particular responsibility.

Pedro , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:41 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

Well, if you can't see racism in this guy words I'm convincente that you're already a totally blind racist.

There is NO white land in this continent, son. If you are that German, english, Nordic white nationalist then you can surely Go back there to European origins and claim your ancestors' lands. But one thing you can never claim is the right over stolen territory, neither to define how long one have to occupy robbed land until be able to recognize others as a "native white"
or INVADERS.

EVERY SANE HUMAN KNOWS WHAT IS BEHIND THIS FACADE OF ARGUMENT.

NO WAY ANY REAL NATIVE CAN CLAIM TO BE WHITE, LET ALONE CALL AFRICAN DESCENDENTS ("OUR BLACKS" ) PARASITES AND THIA SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE SICK PREMISES THIS COLONIALIST SUPREMACIST IS DEFECATING FROM HIS MOUTH.

geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:48 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@Stonewall Jackson eelings about "diversity":

Friday rush hour. Euston station [in London]. Who's here? Who isn't. A kaleidoscope of skin colours. The world in one terminus. Barbara Roche can see it over the rim of her cup of Americano coffee. "I love the diversity of London," she tells me. "I just feel comfortable."

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/03/11/roche-motel-revisited-the-comfort-of-an-atomized-society/

Ron, too, likes to feel "comfortable." But, unlike Barbara, he's less willing to publicly admit it.

Robert Dolan , says: November 12, 2020 at 1:49 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago
@christine

Moron ..the "native americans" are NOT natives in any way .their DNA is ASIAN ..

they came over from Siberia.

They have no claim on the land.

Go. to. hell. you hate filled anti-white bigot pos.

Realist , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:04 pm GMT • 1.3 days ago

The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans

Seventy million Americans are already Red-Pilled that's why they voted for Trump.

The question is what is going to be done about the coup?

Poco , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:06 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@utu

White Americans brought them here? All White Americans? Was a black or two parceled out to each White American? Blacks were brought here before America was a nation. And not by White Americans.

A huge number of White Americans came to America after White Americans abolished slavery. Most black slaves weren't even brought to White America but spanish america. White Americans must pay as a group right?

Poco , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:10 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@christine

No. They're in hell. Definitely not smiling.

Zarathustra , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:10 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

" Back to the future"
War criminals are rising their heads like mushrooms after rainy night.

Turk 152 , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:13 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@noname27

Fart should know that this is Merica and all his fancy thoughts and high falutin language arent welcome round here.

AndrewR , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:15 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Congrats on being the lowest IQ writer to ever be published on this site. Glad to see Ron Unz is doing his part to increase representation of the imbecile community.

Felix Krull , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:24 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

his delivery lacks nuance and has a coarseness which suggests prejudice to the point of racism.

What's wrong with racism?

Felix Krull , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:30 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Questioner

First Nations

"Nation" is a white concept. De-colonialize your brain, bigot! To the redskins, land belonged to those who could take it, and Europeans honored that tradition in grand style.

AKINDLE , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:39 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@The Real World

Do you really believe the BS you just spewed? "So, things began to slide when welfare became generous and English wasn't required, etc. All of that has been to the detriment of the black population and the cause of many problems in that population." Just another excuse for blacks. Blacks are parasitic criminals, they are going to complain welfare or not. Cut off welfare to blacks then, they never deserved it anyway. The most undeserved race in the world.

ConqueringFools , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:39 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

This obsession with Tucker Carlson is as ridiculous as the obsession with Jordan Peterson. Neither give two shits about anything white nationalist. Tucker was born into this life with a jewish silver spoon in his mouth. The guy is worth $20+ million. The fact he hasnt left Foxnews immediately after the networks recent debacle with election reporting shows where his loyalty lies, like most jews (even though he's adopted) its with $$$$

Ugetit , says: November 12, 2020 at 2:48 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@DICARLO

Further, every Indian tribe in America at the time of Columbus had stolen their land from another tribe, and they continued warring and land stealing until the White man put a stop to it.

Of course they put a stop to it. Because they wanted a monopoly on all that. Same reason the White Euro Christians put a stop to Germany's "lebensraum" ideas. The examples are nearly endless.

We hyoominz are wunnerful, no? And religions and politicians are here to solve it all. Uh -huh!

BannedHipster , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 2:52 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

80%+ of Republicans think the election was "stolen."

Everyone can now see how overtly and comically partisan the media is. Everyone agrees with Trump that the media is "fake news."

If anything, popularizing the term "fake news" made Trump worth it.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Questioner

How do you feel about the THEFT OF PALESTINE, SHLOMO.

How do you feel about the racist state known as Israel, Shlomo Goldbergtein?

geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:00 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Just came across this interesting video of Enoch Powell debating Jonathan Miller on issues around UK immigration. They both appeared on the Dick Cavett Show, which aired back in 1971

https://www.youtube.com/embed/MEPtyb9OHP8?feature=oembed

I looked into Jonathan Miller's background and was shocked – shocked I tell you – to discover this little tidbit

Early Life

Miller grew up in St John's Wood, London, in a well-connected Jewish family.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Miller

Not sure if the honourable Enoch Powell had known this trivia about Jonathan, but if he had he should've put the following query to him:

"You seem to be an ardent proponent of promoting mass immigration into Britain. Are you just as ardent a proponent of promoting mass immigration into Eretz Israel?"

If Jonathan had been injected with a truth serum, he would have likely responded:

"Don't be silly. Why would HaShem's chosen people wish to mix with the goyim of the world? Sheesh, what a schmuck!"

anastasia , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:03 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

While it is true that people of the same culture, race and religion live in more harmony in their marriages, and probably in their society, there is no way to achieve that objective in today's world of mass communication and mass transportation. Impossible. To even think about something like that is a recipe for nothing better than frustration and despair. The Church recommended that people of the different cultures and races and religions should not marry because of the risk that it would interfere with the harmony in their marriage as they face life's other trials. It's solution when the Christians came to the Americas was for them to convert the nations and it's objective was to promote better like-mindedness and better harmony that could sustain them as they lived together in the Americas.

This is what the globalists believe they can achieve without Christianity. Well, they can't, because without Christianity, there is only self-interest, the opposite of Christianity, and that is what they are affirmatively teaching at the moment, for self-interest is what they need to promote disunity, for that provides the means for better control of society.

In my opinion, you had better find another way. Maybe you would be better off correcting the vast majority of hispanics for believing they are something other than Caucasian.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:08 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@christine p>

Indians slaughtered each other on the regular, they enslaved each other on the regular, they were not a peaceful people and quite savage. Indian tribes would often join up with the White man to fight other Indian tribes.

Hey, are you a member of the same tribe that Lizzy Warren is from or are you a member of the (((tribe.))) Come on, now, you really don't give two shits about Native Americans, you just hate Whitey, don't you? Anyone can search my rather lengthy comment history and they will find they I have a few posts claiming the American Indian is the ONLY nonwhite people who Whitey owes a damn thing to, not a popular opinion, but it is mine and I will own it.

Robert Dolan , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:10 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Pedro

You are a hate filled anti-white bigot moron.

The "native americans" have asian DNA .

DUMBASS.

I have an excellent idea! Go to the south and find some white man, preferably someone who hunts, and tell him he has to move because he's on "stolen land."

Best of luck, asshole.

PrussianBlues , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:11 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Tucker aged what got us here in the first place? So certainly, completely disengaging is what will further accelerate our demise. You have to wonder, maybe these organizations are part of the gay op to further disenfranchise whites even faster?

This display of white weakness needs to end. If you believe in your right to exist and for the sake of your children, never let them gain any more power, ever. If that means voting for someone that also supports Israel, then so what? If you as a WN, ever think there have been more 'pure and honest' politicians in the past, or are waiting for your perfect WN savior to support in the future, then you are just stupid, sorry.

GMC , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:11 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@christine drafting place – but not exclusive. I spent over 3 decades with Athabaskan and eskimos – Inuit, Yupik, and a few Aleuts – since the Aleuts were the last genocided tribe – during WW II when they moved all of them to the mainland – in order own all their land – after the War. In the end, this is all planned by the Owners – Illuminati- Deep State – Zionists etc. It doesn't matter if they genocide the Nates – the whites, blacks, Browns – until all the tribes unite and take out the Cancer – the Plan will continue. PS the Russians , when they owned Alaska – never genocided the Native population – no matter what the media or stupid SE Nates – say. I homesteaded in Alaska .
Robert Dolan , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:13 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/FE08wodNiEnA/

anon [189] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:16 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Thanks for the tip on Gab. I will now start checking it regularly for Trump's "gabs". Eff Twitter.

anon2024 , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:18 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Thanks to CNN, I've discovered a new cable channel, Newsmax TV. They have their live TV feed on their website 24×7:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newsmax-tv-trump-voters-are-flocking-to-a-channel-that-claims-biden-is-not-president-elect/ar-BB1aVJK5?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnbfcL

According to Wikipedia, Newsmax is co-owned by Christopher Ruddy and Richard Mellon Scaife(heir to the Mellon fortune in Pittsburg). Ruddy is the son of a police officer in NYC and a confidant of Trump. Per Wiki he graduated from Hebrew University of Jerusalem for undergrad, but his first name suggests he's not Jewish. Is he? He describes himself as a "libertarian conservative" and Reaganite.

Agent76 , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:20 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Nov 6, 2020 Biden war machine anxious to get back into Syria and cause chaos in Caucasus

https://www.youtube.com/embed/b_SzhntgMx4?feature=oembed

October 28, 2020 Report: Biden Would Kill Upwards Of 159K Jobs In Mich.

According to a recent study, Michigan supports around 159,000 jobs in the oil and gas industry, all of which would be eliminated under Biden's plan to achieve zero emissions by 2035.

https://www.oann.com/report-biden-would-kill-upwards-of-159k/

Oct 26, 2020 Biden discusses his debate comments on the oil industry during presser

https://www.youtube.com/embed/qMvn8be_P_M?feature=oembed

ThreeCranes , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:22 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@christine aph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9110838/Stone-age-Europeans-were-the-first-to-set-foot-on-North-America.html"> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9110838/Stone-age-Europeans-were-the-first-to-set-foot-on-North-America.html

http://www.sanctepater.com/2012/02/stone-age-europeans-were-first-to-set.html

Also, the tribes were not at war occasionally; they warred continuously. It was part of their life style, how a boy became a man.

See My Sixty Years on the Plains by W. T. Hamilton for eye witness testimony.

Rogue , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:24 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@glib

I'd say you're completely wrong about that.

The "redpilled" fully understand that America's foreign wars are a load of BS that profit the military industrial complex and certain lobbying groups – but not the USA itself.

God's Fool , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:24 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

To you, a Jew is an American nationalist because he is not a recent arrival, unlike, say, Ilhan Omar. I got your number you're not a nationalist but a paid up harlot masquerading, sadly, as a White nationalist.

Montefrío , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:33 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Malla class="comment-text">

"Like what North America, Australia, Argentina predominantly was before mass non -White migration"

Argentina? No mass non-White migration here, to speak of. This country since the white arrival has always been a mestizo society.The same is true of much of Central and more so South America. During this century in Argentina,there has been a substantial migration of Bolovins, Peruvians and Paraguyans thanks to the Kirchners (our Clintons) " Patria Grande " program that allowed them in, but it represents nothing on the scale of what has been done elsewhere to the north. Here the issue is less a color issue than a class issue.

Craig Nelsen , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:34 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@freedom-cat

But We'll give you MT, ND, SD, WY, IA, NB, KS, and Maybe OK.

You'll need to get Canada's permission before you give away New Brunswick.

I imagine the "honesty belt" would quickly become a desirable place to live compared to everywhere else, and the good solid folks in Honestan would again allow their resident shlomos to open the floodgates.

Gidoutahere , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:34 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Now, now – musn't step on any toes.

Rooster10 , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:36 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

In order to be taken seriously you need some kind of united front. Take a look at even small minority groups such as the LGBTQ community, who maybe accounts for 3% of the US population, but has grown into a unified political force.

There also needs to be a consequence if your group is wronged. We have daily mainstream television shows that do nothing but make fun of White people and their traditions. The Muslims behead anyone who dares draw a stick figure of Muhammad, let alone entire programming dedicated to the denigration of their culture.

In order to defeat a bully, you need to punch them in the mouth. Right now many people are hopefully waking up to the fact that there is indeed a bully, then identifying exactly who that is, and finally taking some sort of action against the bully.

DaveE , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:40 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Priss Factor anded by their "G_d" to Rule the World, tikkun olam , " (b)light unto the nations " and 20 other descriptors for the megalomaniac tyrant known as the Jew, who lusts to control blacks, whites and everyone else in slavery to itself.

I do agree with the author that we White Nationalists need to lose our fear of defending our racial identity, but da' blacks ain't da' problem. The Jewish race / ideology that lusts to destroy us ALL – IS the problem.

Talking about black / white racial tensions as if they were the source of our problems is like worrying about dandruff on a cancer patient. So PLEASE, let's get to the point, shall we?

Wielgus , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:42 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Ugetit

And not so long ago Trump and Netanyahu were such buddies

ContrarianKen , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:43 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Increased white nationalism leads to increased anti-white-nationalism. Genociding indigenes makes white supremacists look evil. Trumpism leads to BLMism and Antifa. White wars of aggression lead to brown refugees going to Europe. God will turn Europe and North America black, red and yellow if He wants to, and He can do it by taking advantage of white people's pride and letting them do stupid "white supremacist" things that make them look bad.

jsm , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:47 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Questioner

So, we can all assume you've been giving 80 percent of your income and your house to a former resident of Pine Ridge County, South Dakota?

No?!!!!

The Spirit of Enoch Powell , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:47 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@geokat62

The pilpul by Miller is truly astonishing, comparing old British people to immigrants!

People like Miller serve the purpose of trying to rationalise the decisions of the other members of his Tribe, usually by gaslighting people into thinking they are crazy and nothing out of the normal is happening. Hence you see these crazy metaphors and analogies drawn by the likes of Miller in that clip.

God's Fool , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:50 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

"As many on our side have said, we will make no real and substantial progress until we are willing to openly stand up for ourselves -- in person, in broad daylight, and without sock puppets and noms de plume like "Jef Costello." Is that day imminent? I believe that it is."

In that case, let's have your real name practice what you preach!

P. S. My real name George Washington.

Malla , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:53 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Majority of One

Northwest Europeans share much in this perspective.

I would say, all Northern Europeans (both Eastern and Western) thus including the North Eastern Europeans like the Russians too share this.

Montefrío , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:56 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@noname27

"the bulk of black slaves went to the Spanish colonies, not the American colonies"

Could you please cite supporting evidence for this assertion? I think (but am unsure) it is incorrect. One thingof which I am certain, however,is that the Spaniards abolished slavery far earlier than the white Americans. Another is that Spaniards are also "white".

KenR , says: November 12, 2020 at 3:58 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

White males are the only group Trump did not make gains with in 2020.

Is that true? How does anybody know that? Exit polls?

After all these wildly inaccurate polls for four years, are we suddenly to believe polls now?

Furthermore, consider this: The one group you can steal votes from if you're the Democrats are the white males. This is where you would do it. You can't steal any from the column of black voters -- since they vote 90% for you already there simply aren't enough to steal. You steal them from the white males, it's a beautiful double-whammy. One, you get your stolen victory; two, you demoralize the strongest group arrayed against you.

God's Fool , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:03 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

"In my experience, the only tiny minority of Muslim people who have caused friction are invariably of Arab origin, and more specifically from Saudi Arabia – an inherently tribal & chauvinistic culture (and a key American ally in the Middle East – just sayin')."

Unfortunately, Arabs, in particular Saudis, are a horrible disease that needs to be removed by all means, including thermo nuclear radiation therapy!

jsm , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:06 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Robert Dolan

What I don't get, from the likes of sweethearts like Pedro

how does the fact that the Sioux were riding their horses across Colorado before we got here, make it mean that Mexican half-Aztec / half Spaniards have a right to come and steal it from *us* ?

If we stole it from the Sioux as he says, the presence of his lardbutt here means he is accepting stolen goods, which means his sin is as big as -- or bigger than -- ours.

tomo , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:07 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Priss Factor

I keep telling blacks about jews and slavery in JUSA – they pretend they don't believe what I am saying even though I provide evidence (from this website).
I guess they are more opportunistic than I thought and less brave, hoping their jewish masters will somehow help them get more money from white people, so they don't want to bite the hand they expect will feed them

Mike Tre , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:14 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Tucker

Perhaps the point is there are no peaceful solutions left for whites, and only violent alternatives remain.

Zarathustra , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:16 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

To whom the land belongs?
At one time in world history all land did belong to dinosaurs.
So how to do justice about ownership of the land?
Human beings should kill each other until no human being left, and than the land will belong to its rightful owners again, the animals.
Native Americans were the ones who had this right idea.
They were killing each other and eating each other.
..
Did somebody ask Dahmer if human flesh taste better than chicken?

Superman to the Rescue , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:21 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

Someone for the love of God please start an American Nationalist conference and invite all people who have the tiniest shred of dignity left in this chemical plagued population.

The goal of the conference: to discuss starting a political party that will be a valid third party option. Agendas to be fleshed out: donor registration, billboard campaigns, multi-state speeches targeting smaller towns that have been boarded up, setting up a volunteer network of security operatives to forcibly secure election integrity, etc.

This stuff isn't rocket science and I don't understand why so many people who have money and claim to be for WHITE NATIONALISM have not pushed their people in this direction. BUT IF YOU DONT HAVE MONEY and are interested in this let me share with you a secret to start it. Get 10 under-writers who will lend $5,000 for a total of $50k. $50,000 should be enough to get the ball rolling. I would be willing to help $. If you sell enough tickets you can pay the lenders back. Secure a venue and promote tickets to the conference across multiple platforms.

Just an idea for saving our people in this midnight hour.

europeasant , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:24 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

"I suggest adjusting the author's arguments to recognise the actual fundamental issue in play, which is not skin colour or race or language, but CULTURE"

I call BS. You are one of those people who believe that NURTURE is everything and NATURE accounts for nothing. A very foolish mindset. A deluded mindset. Do some research and come back after you have learned something from the real world and not from your Marxist professors.

Truth , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:25 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@DaveE

It's not Jews (technically JewISH). It is the multitudes of all races around the world, who have ignored the word of God, and chosen the JewISH (and Catholic, at the top) agenda, as the preferred way of life.

Crush Limbraw , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 4:26 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago

This frank article confirms pretty much what I posted in DaLimbraw Library over a year ago – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2019/08/white-supremacy-is-it-time-to-face.html?m=0 – a summary of articles on Western Civilization with links provided. Requires some serious reading!
History shows that WC was built on Christianity, Graeco-Roman law traditions and primarily in Europe – meaning the White race. That's just fact!
White supremacy – if it ever returns – might just save our Western Civilization!

Truth , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:27 pm GMT • 1.2 days ago
@jsm

Hey, how ya been, Sheila?

Ralph Seymour , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:33 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@theMann

Now that is a darn good point. I was in Texas just last year and was shocked by what I found.

In Austin, young people presumably from California have ruined the place. Won't be going there again.

Things done changed.

Ralph Seymour , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:35 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Justvisiting

Very good.

Ralph Seymour , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:37 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Cauchemar du Singe

Quite right. Managed by Jews.

Robert Dolan , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:39 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@jsm

I had an excellent exchange with a retarded mexican a while back, as the stupid pos was blabbing that whitey "stole this land from the indigenous people," (HIS people -- -mexican cretins.)

I said, "Oh really? Hmmm ..what tribe are you from?"

Empty stare.

"Are you Apache? Comanche? Sioux? The El Chapo tribe?"

The dumb motherfucker walked away in a huff.

tomo , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:40 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave nd is to what they were mislead to believe I see it here with my African friends, Swiss, other Europeans etc everyone I know has experienced this
So this kind of betrayal and feeling of being tricked also contributes to whether they assimilate (and what there really is to assimilate into when the new host country has no culture whatsoever to offer to anyone, including the natives – apart from shopping and watching TV).
Plus add to this the feeling that say the 800 000 refugees imported last year understand that Canadistan actually played a role in destroying their countries and their desire to assimilate or to respect the new country diminishes even further.
Orville H. Larson , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:48 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@mark green

"Ron Unz has given the world a forum where countless and controversial and conflicting points of view are given oxygen and light. This is invaluable and rare."

I associate myself your comment.

Malla , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:49 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Majority of One
How an Amish Gentleman (he is really one) handles a racism issue, how he handles a triggered lefty, chip on the shoulder, black "British" spoilt snobby urban London girl Sienna on some bullshit "racist" incident. How wise the Amish are compared the "English" (non Amish White American folk) around them!!!
One would be surprised (or not so surprised if you do not fall for typical Jew media/ history stereotypes) that the most snobby arrogant person among the six British youth who went and lived among the Amish in the USA in this British TV series was the black girl Sienna whose parents are from Africa.
Check out the comment section, everybody hates Sienna.
Genrick Yagoda , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:57 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Pedro

White people, and only white people created and built the country of the USA. No one else.

We are home. You primitives had every opportunity to create a country, but you were too stupid, too primitive, and too savage to do so.

Too bad, so sad.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 4:58 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

So there are approximately 330 million people in America, and the latest vote count shows that 150 million or thereabouts voted in this election? NO WAY IN HELL. To be honest I don't think Trump received over 70 million LEGITIMATE VOTES much less Biden. I think they have Biden at 75 or 77 million right now, can't remember which. LMAO. NO WAY IN HELL JOE BIDEN HAS RECEIVED 75-77 LEGITIMATE VOTES.

Think about it people. Think of the people too young to vote, the people incarcerated, the people who don't ever vote, the people so old that they just don't give a damn like the ones in nursing homes, etc. Just the other day, I was talking to the Orkin man who sprayed my house, and he stated he didn't even vote. Well, given I was flying a Trump flag maybe the guy was being diplomatic or lying but who knows? I think another LIE in this STOLEN election is the total vote count. I guess the people who stole the vote for Biden and manufactured that Biden accumulated close to 80 million votes had to even up Trump's votes to make this fairy tale seem somewhat believable.

John Johnson , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:05 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

First of all I don't identify as White nationalist. When I lived in a liberal city I couldn't stand being around White people. I would much rather live in Mexico than around liberal Whites. Urban Whites especially can be really annoying regardless of politics. They want to be morally right and feel intellectually superior without having to do any work or give any explanation as to why. They want to feel cosmopolitan and view any dissention as a thorn in the side to their unexplained superiority.

Will White people be red pilled by this election? Nope.

We have the internet and most White people can't seem to be bothered with spending a couple nights reading about how both Con Inc and liberals lie about race. Intellectual laziness abounds.

Most of those Trump voting Republicans really believe that we can turn every Black family into the Huxtables with the right level of minimal government/low taxes/etc. They really believe this. It's shocking.

There is no silver lining with this election. It's a disaster.

Too many White people choose to live in a false reality where race doesn't exist. Our best hope is that White egalitarian leftists breed out themselves off by having few or no children. Then we'll probably have to align with Hispanics to end the welfare system. Don't get mad at me for pointing that out. Go take it up with the moron conservatives still pushing Alisa Rosenbaum fantasy over facts.

Dum Spiro Spero , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:06 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

Two things can happen: that Trump wins (which would be something of justice), and that the whites go looking for their places in the United States.
In fact, this is what has already happened in California for years: whites are leaving that state.

Hans Scott , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:13 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

God forbid! But IF Beijing Biden slithers his way into the WH the 1619 Project will be the theme of the US Govt. Which, of course, means that we don't belong here..Well, if we don't belong here then we can only go back to Europe. Who cares if the anti-white EU countries don't want us? They've spent the last several years taking in destructive, horny, hostile opportunistic welfare shopping scum if there's room for them there's room for us. Unless they want us to stay here and be genocided like the S. Africans.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:17 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@sparky

If the white evil scum invaders had come in peace without their guns the natives wouldn't have wanted revenge.

Its somewhat ironic that guns and more guns are the scary part of modern central North America but i guess what goes around comes around.

geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:18 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

Concluding paragraphs to Chuck Baldwin's latest column, Almost No One Else Will Say It, So I Must :

That's why Benjamin Netanyahu already congratulated Joe Biden on an election victory -- even before the election was firmly decided. He is keenly aware of the exponential rise in Zionist power and influence that accompanies the Harris family rise to the White House.

Amazingly, many evangelicals continue to stupidly believe that Netanyahu (and Zionism itself) is a friend of the United States and a friend of Christianity. What dupes!

In a real sense, the rise of the Marxist attack against America, personified in Kamala Harris, can be, at least partially, attributed to the misguided support for Zionism among our evangelical churches.

As I said, almost no one else will say it, so I must.

https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/4078/Almost-No-One-Else-Will-Say-It-So-I-Must.aspx

Anonymous Jew , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:18 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

To bolster your argument against the Left, instead of identifying first as a "White Nationalist" you should say, simply, that you are an Ethnic Nationalist. That makes your argument harder to refute and highlights the logical inconsistency of the Left's argument, which, at its core, is really just anti-White.

As I point out to people, I'm a Tibetan Nationalist and an Anglo-American Nationalist; a Black Nationalist but also a White Nationalist. All ethnic groups are entitled to their sovereignty, lands and control of their borders. Humans are tribal and need common cultural ties to maintain social capital and build a functioning society. This should be common sense, but somehow it's instead become taboo.

Bill , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:19 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Trinity

Trump did expose the "normies" to the FAKE MEDIA.

In other words, Trump made the same arguments Republicans have been making for 50 years. Coincidentally, he also pursued the same policies Republicans have been pursuing for 50 years.

jsm , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:21 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Robert Dolan

Love this. Can I steal it?

Beautiful Evidence , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:22 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

Longer viewer:
Folks are acting like elections have not been stolen in the past. Get real.
Folks are acting like our government has not been completely corporate-owned since Reagan. Get real.
Folks are acting like the Talmudic syndicate has played no role whatsoever in this scam. Get real.

geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:25 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Superman to the Rescue

Someone for the love of God please start an American Nationalist conference The goal of the conference: to discuss starting a political party that will be a valid third party option.

National Justice Party Statement on the 2020 Presidential Election

https://nationaljusticeparty.com/2020/11/06/national-justice-party-statement-on-the-2020-presidential-election/

John Johnson , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:25 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Genrick Yagoda haven't created an America somewhere else.

Everyone hates White people and yet everyone wants to move to White countries.

Leftists tell us this is because Whites are bad and have colluded against everyone. That is the reason behind their success.

So build America in Africa without them? Why is this not the plan? Would it not prove that egalitarians were correct all along? Funny how the plan of the leftist to move the third world to White countries. There seems to be zero dissention along this line. All leftists agree by their actions that assimilating White countries for their ideals is more viable than building a new America without Whites.

Rurik , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:25 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

BREAKING: Trump Drops Bombshell Tweet, Alleges 2.7 Million Trump Votes Were Deleted

https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-trump-drops-bombshell-tweet-alleges-2-7-million-trump-votes-were-deleted/

I just posted this to Unz's new Breaking News site

https://www.unz.com/news/

if this is true, and verifiable, it could be consequential

Something tells me Trump must have some pretty good evidence for him to post something so momentous at this particular point in time.

Thomasina , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:28 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Ilya G Poimandres develop the vaccine).

Trump is taking on Big Ag. He's taking on the military as best he can; he hasn't started any new wars.

Trump is taking on the U.S. multinational corporations who took the jobs overseas (tariffs).

Trump is taking on the fraud in the election system. DNC's top election guru just resigned (yeah, I bet he did!) Trump is exposing the algorithms in the Dominion Voting System.

Trump got 72 million votes. He owns the Republican Party now! They have been fighting him up until this point, but they are now realizing that they are nothing without Trump.

If Trump were to start a third party, look out! How's that for leading?

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:32 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@christine

The very first white man who tied to live with the Stone Age Siberian Savages was Etienne Brule. He was part of Cartier's exploration team in the early 1600's.

When Cartier returned and inquired about Etienne he was informed that the Siberian savages murdered, scalped and ATE him.

May the spirits of Siberian Savages be suffering the endless tortures they would visit on their victims.

John Johnson , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:32 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@christine tives wouldn't have wanted revenge.

What makes you think the Chinese or Japanese would have left the Americas alone?

This is some egalitarian fantasy of the Americas remaining scarcely populated with warring tribes. As if the rest of the world would have left it as a nature preserve.

It was never a country and in fact the tribes would align with warring European countries against other tribes. That of course probably wasn't mentioned in your White guilt history class. Numerous tribes used Europeans and their tools as a means of enacting revenge against their traditional enemies. Read about the Blackfoot for a politically incorrect reality check.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:35 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Trinity

I like to think that the Indians were just exacting pure revenge against the gun toting euro invaders and your wrong i am of irish white heritage and don't make me laugh about torture and despicable human acts as i have seen those pictures of massive piles of bison that were gunned down by invading euro scum that were attempting to starve the natives.

Anonymous [502] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:41 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

It doesn't matter who the president is, you know that Hillary Clinton didn't lose and Trump didn't win, but here's the president, Obama didn't want to do exactly what you're doing now, and he didn't want to launch an investigation. You are directly pushing America into a civil war, by a "fraud of choice" that has no evidence. Indeed, you are pushing everyone into the catastrophe of the Civil War. You know very well that everything Trump claimed was a lie, and half the world was accused of lies, nowhere is evidence and the UN laughs at him, but you claim that now Trump claims the truth once in his life, again without a dictatorship.

Dum Spiro Spero , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:44 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

If Trump loses, the consequences would be dire.
We are interested in Trump winning.
On the other hand, the strength of the whites was their Christian and authentic religion. Not their race. In the Middle Ages it was the Church that defended Europe from the Muslim invasion.
Nowadays an infiltrator is seated in Pedro's See, Bergoglio does not think like a Catholic.
Only with that faith can our culture and our lives be saved.

Wally , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:46 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Questioner

Genocide not. The fake "indigenous people" / little dummies are everywhere and have a complete free ride with plenty of taxpayers cash ("rent") to stay loaded on, to avoid any personal responsibility.
And clearly, American Indians were "xenophobic" / "racist" in resisting European migrants.
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Anonymous [353] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:47 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

It seems rather odd and highly suspicious that so called NATIONALISTS CONSERVATIVES (whites) propose cowardice in the face of aggression they all claim to be so outraged so contrived BUT all of them propose INACTION now this is the main reason YOU/WE are LOSING America we bowed our heads, weeping sorrowful and thats all The DEMS implemented 4yrs of on the ground campaign of terror they were called BLMANTIFA a permanent campaign of terror And NOW the CONSERVATIVE NATIONALISTS suggests stupidity separation, repatriation, secession ALL DUMB STUPID RANTS UTOPIAS .WE MUST STAND OUR GROUND NOW NOW History, legality, morality, is on OUR SIDE and people know it .THE MAIN THRUS SHOULD BE MUST BE MASSIVE RED STATES REVOLT 1776mII REDUX .By the time dictator Biden finish his first year HE would had used his excutive powers, and in coalition with BLUE/RINOS enacted a NEW CONSTITUTION, REDO THE ELECTORAL FRAMEWORKS so that NO RED Nationalist will ever be elected again,,,never,,,so called ANTI TRUMP LEGISLATIONS which really means ANTIWHITE laws an AMERICAN JIM CROW LAWS IN REVERSE dont you see the perils to come its not about utopias, there is no tomorrow..unless WE FIGHT NOW mass revolts peacefully???? 1776 II MILITIAS..

The Wild Geese Howard , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:52 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Malla

the Japanese too cannot live and do well in live in multiracial Ottoman-Byzantine like societies.

Isn't there a large Japanese diaspora doing well in Brazil and Peru?

The Chinese too will be rejected by the darkie masses in the future,

I have a hard time seeing the Chinese falling for that shuck and jive unless they become a completely Christian society, all the way to the top of the pyramid.

Robot9000 , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:54 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Priss Factor

This post was better than OP. I am suspicious the author ripped on blacks but had nothing to say about Jews.

Twodees Partain , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:56 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

right now, less than a week after polls closed And, as the Biden camp continues to vote

I don't know whether or not red-pilling Trump's fans will help, but it should already be obvious to those with eyes open that too many people believe whatever they see and hear on TV. It's entirely possible that most of the Trump supporters won't be red-pilled at all.

Even Americans who don't particularly like or trust Trump may be disgusted enough with the blatant media push to declare Biden the winner, that they decide not to allow it any more. That may be enough to get some of them to decide that waiting for government to "do something" is a waste of time.

If the rioters decide to riot in celebration of Biden's win, or in outrage over his win being revealed as fraud and rejected, some number of Americans could just decide to shut the rioters down themselves. It wouldn't be that hard for armed Americans who know how to fight, and there are hundreds of thousands of combat vets with recent experience who just might go ahead and do it.

One thing's for sure, they won't be giving any warning on social media before they hit back.

Mr. Anon , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:56 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Zarathustra

I think Biden also does deserve a chance to come up with solutions.

He already has: To imprison you in your home, Melbourne-style, for 4-6 weeks.

The Wild Geese Howard , says: November 12, 2020 at 5:59 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Thomasina

If the courts follow the letter of the law, Trump WILL prevail.

Unfortunately, courts are run by judges, who are all flawed people in their own right.

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:01 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@christine and despicable human acts as i have seen those pictures of massive piles of bison

They tortured the bison! The horror!

I guess you have never heard about Buffalo Jumps, then?

You may claim to be white, but it's clear you have had your empty head filled by Anti-White delusional lies. The Siberians were so savage that during the French Indian wars the French troops finally refused to fight alongside their Indian allies, because they were savage to the point that the French viewed them as being similar to the THE XENOMORPHS from the movie Aliens.

Imagine being such a primitive savage that your own allies abandon you in a time of war. glib , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:08 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

@Rogue

excellent. In The last 20 years they have changed deeply. Because only 17 years ago they were all gung ho about destroying Iraq. Perhaps a bit of depleted uranium shot into Peoria will cement their views.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:10 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Bill lifetime. The only politicians who really gave a damn about Whites in my lifetime were Dixiecrats, and probably most of them were good ole boy crooks who just talked a good game but CAVED eventually. Hell, Strom Thurmond fathered a mixed race daughter IF I am not mistaken.

Tell me what did all the Presidents from JFK to Obama do to make this nation better? And before you give the standard JFK horseshit, JFK was all for the multiracial plan for America, and he sure supported integration of schools down South. Okay, let me hear what President in the last century REALLY LOOKED OUT FOR WHITE INTERESTS OVER JEWISH OR NONWHITE INTERESTS. I got time and I am all ears.

silviosilver , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:18 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@christine

The point is whites did nothing that any one of those tribes wouldn't have done to all the others if they had had the power to do it. (If anything, whites treated them much better than they treated each other.) We might look at that from the vantage point of 21st century morality and call it awful – just as we might with the Mongol or Islamo-Arab conquests – but it would remain 'ancient history,' not something to constantly dredge up in order to instill racial guilt and gain political advantage.

The Real World , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:18 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@AKINDLE

Akindle = another sheltered, uninformed, inexperienced racist and skin color supremacist.

Color me not shocked.

Pls make the world a better place and crawl back into your hole. Sunlight is too difficult for you.Thanks

omegabooks , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:22 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago

We'll see about the "red pilled" part, but even liberals out here, even ones who voted Biden, are NOT convinced Biden-Harris won legitimately. And who knows? Maybe the criminal psycho elites realized perhaps awakening a couple 'o hundred million gun owners was a but premature and will "allow" Trump to retake the White House I mean, Biden's doing what Biden was gonna do .make the whole damned thing look illegit. And NOBODY out here has anything but distrust when it comes to Harris one liberal from Commie-fornia who lived there knows Harris is evil.

Really it all come down to these–will we let them take our guns, will we let them force vaccines on us, and will we let them burn this nation to the ground while forcing all rural folks into stack 'n packs, Agenda 2030 style?

silviosilver , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:27 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@utu o if there was ever a serious prospect it might happen, they would probably want to separate as well. And why not? Ultimately, we're all better off living around people more like ourselves than less like ourselves. (Duh)

And why would anyone be required to call himself a 'bantustan nationalist'? When Mexicans arrive in America they don't suddenly cease to call themselves Mexican, so why should Americans stop calling themselves American simply because of an altered political geography? For an intelligent man, it's astonishing how quickly you transform into a blithering idiot the moment you begin discussing issues that emotionally disturb you.

Richard B , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:29 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Priss Factor

White Liberationist is better.

Good suggestion. Perhaps some can think of others. Either way, it's good because it's more cultural than political, at least it sounds that way, and because it puts the focus exactly where it belongs, on our basic freedoms.

One thing's for certain. Putting ideology and politics before race and culture, ie; Right = White (and visa versa) will be like shooting yourself in the foot before running a marathon in difficult terrain. In other words, it'd be a piece of unforgivable stupidity. And irreversible as well. Since, if this is flubbed, a second chance will not come again.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:30 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Robert Dolan

All human DNA is southern African you numpty.

I guess for some white yanks the truth about the birth of their country is a little too close to the bone for their liking and a bit too raw and painful but the truth is the truth and shame on all the euro invaders of all of the Americas in the past.

omegabooks , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:30 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@Ralph Seymour

Try coming out to rural remote far west Texas .Austin isn't all of Texas. And I said rural, not El Paso!
And, oh yeah, Midland-Odessa, Lubbock, Amarillo that is, all of Texas except El Paso westward of the San Antonio-Austin lib-tard areas (including artsy-fartsy Marfa they may like Biden but the don't like Harris if you know what I mean).

Richard B , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:46 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@silviosilver e superior too?

JSI is basically a criminal organization that wants power. Everything they say and do flows from this. They are The People Of The Lie . The point is, you might be able to obtain control of a culture or civilization through lies. But you can't run it that way.

And now we're back to the point you raise in your comment and what it directs our attention to. It directs our attention to what we're witnessing, to what anyone can see as soon as they stop talking about how powerful they are and how screwed everyone else is. Enough! No. What we're witnessing is nothing less than The Pyrrhic Victory Of Jewish Supremacy Inc .

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:51 pm GMT • 1.1 days ago
@christine I think your heart is in the right place, I and I respect that, but instead of trying to right things that are ancient history how about focusing on what IS HAPPENING TO YOUR PEOPLE RIGHT NOW. Whites are being slaughtered in South Africa. Little children being held hostage while they watch their mother raped right in front of their eyes, entire families of Whites being butchered by racist Black thugs. I am all for you pointing out how Whites were guilty of mistreating the Native American, but I would also ask you to point that passion to something that is going on RIGHT NOW, something that didn't happen long ago and can't be changed. YOUR OWN PEOPLE are suffering, does that not bother you?
randall r , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:54 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

What a bad joke the dissident right wignat faction turned out to be.

Richard Spencer and the bugger accounts aligned with his views are doing nothing but spamming straight-up system propaganda, a lot of which has migrated onto these pages.

anon [287] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:54 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

This article in the The American Conservative shows how much the conservatives still do not get it:
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-realignment-is-real/

The author Jonathan Van Maren seems to think the American electorate has realigned itself with social conservatism + economic populism on the GOP side, and progressivism, elitism and Big tech on DNC side. Based on this, he calls for the GOP to use social conservatism specifically anti-abortion, anti-assisted suicide, pro medicare, pro social security to appeal to a coalition of working class America including blacks and Latinos.

The main reason people like me voted for Trump is because of immigration and non-interventionism which he promised on his campaign trail in 2016. We want to see America end the endless wars and the endless immigration . I could care less about abortion, assisted suicide, medicare or social security.

Once again, the social conservatives missed the boat and are now calling for more coalition with Latinos, which probably means support for more immigration as George W. did, because Latinos make good conservatives, right? When will these idiots wake up?! Have they been reading Ron Unz's misleading articles on Hispanic crime? Ann Coulter was so right. The Republican party is the stupid party, and it's because it's run by tone deaf "conservatives" that run webzines like TAC and National Review.

Thomasina , says: November 12, 2020 at 6:57 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Rurik

Yes, Trump tweeted out: "We will win!"

Just read at The Duran: "Obama lackey John Pilger resigns from DOJ election crimes job."

Maybe Mr. Pilger knows something too? Maybe he resigned before being fired? Maybe those Dominion Voting machines have been compromised using algorithms?

This is heating up. I actually believe Trump will win.

Ralph Seymour , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:04 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@omegabooks

North West Texas is still good? Thank you for that. Because the rest of it is depressing.

follyofwar , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:11 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Tucker y the Jews? Has it worked for European man, or, with its strictures to turn the other cheek, has it made him a second class citizen? That was my thoughts when I saw so many disgusting, pathetic whites bowing down and kissing the boots of BLM Supremacists this summer.

In any case, unless one is so hopelessly wedded to Christianity that his mind is closed, an article written by Thomas Dalton, "Christianity: The Great Jewish Hoax," has taken the Christian myth head on (National Vanguard, 9 Aug 2020). Indeed, as Israel-first Evangelicals have taken control of Christianity in the US, we should ask if devotion to a Middle Eastern Jew named Jesus is helping or hurting our cause.

Robjil , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:13 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Richard B r with the foreigners; and this spirit of wear, principle of any cowardice, is so natural in their hearts, that it is the continual object of the figures that they employ in the species of eloquence which is proper for them. Their glory is to put at fire and blood the small villages they can seize. They cut the throat of the old men and the children; they hold only the girls nubiles; they assassinate their Masters when they are slaves; they can never forgive when they are victorious: they are enemy of the human mankind. No courtesy, no science, no art improved in any time, in this atrocious nation. -- Voltaire, Essai sur les mœurs (1756) Tome 2, page 83
Whitewolf , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:15 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Ultrafart the Brave pon its introduction. Since then the government has provided tax incentives to people paying for private insurance. Basically you pay a reduced medicare levy if you have private insurance. The Australian medical system has it's faults like long waiting times for elective surgery etc but it's still pretty good.

On the immigration front though Australia is in worse shape than the US. We have a much smaller population and it doesn't take as much third world immigration to turn it into a third world country. Especially since many use New Zealand as a back door into Australia. Australia is already unrecognisable from even just 20 years ago. In another 20 it's likely to resemble Brazil.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 7:17 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Syd Walker

proposing a civil war in the 21st century to create a "whites only" state in North America is so nutty it breaks the dial.

Your observation is clearly correct.

I'd like to add two speculations to this –

1. The civil war is no longer a proposition, it's been underway for some time.

2. Racial friction is being managed as one of several pretexts to rally enthusiasm for that war.

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:19 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@christine

Yet another empty-headed anti-White idiot comment.

Man originated in Europe, not Africa. White people have NEVER been Africans.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find/

Mr. Anon , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:20 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

Trump has now moved over to Gab, a free-speech platform that has embraced thought criminals of all kinds (so far). Trump's supporters will follow him to Gab -- millions of them. They will read the other stuff and become more red-pilled. You can almost predict this one with mathematical certainty.

Lots of conservatives are now departing Facebook and Twitter for other social media platforms that are less restrictive. This will further separate the left and right in this country, as they'll have even that much less in common. It will separate families, with liberals staying on Facebook, and their conservative family members leaving, decreasing communication between them, especially now with all the Corona bulls ** t being used to suppress the association of people in meat-space.

Bill , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:27 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Tucker

But, anyone who actively promotes the idea that Whites should just completely opt out is pushing advice that is exactly what our mortal enemies want most.

They are oddly quiet about it. Unlike everything else they want.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 7:28 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@noname27

YOU are a part of the problem and your infantile, asinine handle proves it.

Hey, it was either that, or Scrotie McBoogerballs.

I believe I made the principled choice.

Anonymous [330] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:30 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

A worthwhile article.

White people are going to need to get good at living in diaspora, since that's where we are at now. We need to adopt tribal methods similar to the way other tribes operate. For example, spending a little more to buy from our own people. Finding a way to brand white ownership. Finding a way to associate said white ownership with white activism.

It is no good giving money to a local, vice signalling white traitor. It would be better to get cheap products from a multinational, at least you get value for money. However, we need to find ways of rewarding our own financially. We need to ensure that money goes out for things of value – land, buildings, shares of companies, etc. Money comes in from the fruit of our labor and intellect.

It isn't going to be easy because Jews have attempted to criminalize many of the things we would like to do (specifically us, while giving other races/ethnicities a pass), but we can find ways around that.

It will be easier to live in diaspora than via separatism.

Muaddib , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:37 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

The author is an idiot. To begin with, not all 70 million or so people who voted for Trump were White. He received, what, 30% of the Hispanic vote. Also, approximately 20% of black males voted for Trump.
Your guy just lost flatout. He was unpopular.
70 million means what? I call that pathetic compared to what Biden got.
Btw, you guys were able to be racist the last four years. Sit your butt down the next 4 years because you White nationalists suck ass.
Urban Whites don't like you, period.
Whites invented everything? Even if that was the case, it came from URBAN WHITES. You mother fuckers, whose ancestors are probably farmboys, only take credit.
What have rural whites achieved? Nothing besides taking credit.
Besides all this, due to immigration, most of the entrepreneurs and inventors are liberal immigrants.
Bottomline is that liverals invented everything. Rural hillbillies did shit!

P.S. Bow down to Biden.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:39 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@randall r n that over the top cartoon character seriously to being with. He reminded me of some of those (((actors))) who frequented those '90's talk shows like Donahue or Doprah Pigfrey portraying "White Supremacists" or foaming at the mouth skinhead so called "neo-Nazis." haha. I think they found out that half of those characters were Jews who worked for the ADL or at least some them were. All portrayed the same old stereotype of an evil White racist who shocked the audience by saying "niggers" or just portraying anyone who is pro-White civil rights as a maniacal neanderthal. My gaydar always went off every time I watched a video of Spencer speaking that MANUFACTURED horseshit anyhow.
Reg Cæsar , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:43 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@Priss Factor

Go Palestinians.

Only the Christians. The rest can "go" back to Arabia.

Mohammedans are our enemy. Their prophet said so. Racially, Arabs are just poor, stupid Jews– unless they live above oil, then they're rich, stupid Jews. The problem with your analysis is that it isn't anti-Semitic enough .

And tell blacks that Jews exploit them for profits.

Tell Mexicans that Jews hog all the wealth.

They already know. They don't care. Just someone different to kiss up to.

Peter Frost , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 7:48 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@tomo istic culture that is foreign to them and which makes them feel alone and inferior. So they respond accordingly. The same is true for young Canadians in general.

I agree that immigrants are no longer assimilating, but not because Canada lacks a strong sense of national identity. The main reasons are demographic and technological. Immigrants now arrive in such large numbers that they end up interacting only with each other. They can also watch TV programming in their own language, via the Internet or cable TV, and communicate with people back home via Skype or social media.

Assimilation takes effort, even in ideal conditions, so more and more immigrants are taking the easy way out. They learn enough English or French for work, and that's usually enough.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 7:48 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@lavoisier he government has to stop shoving diversity down our throats continuously.

I think this is one area where most objective people can agree.

Idiotic attempts by governments at social engineering and correcting past injustices by penalising the present population continue to be rolling disasters worldwide.

I would think the German people might eventually rebel against their perpetual financial tribute to the Holocaust doctrine, if not for the current crop of self-inflicted immigration problems engulfing Europe.

I also suspect that the "white supremacist" propaganda isn't a benevolent attempt to correct society's problems. Rather, it looks more like part of a coordinated destructive strategy to dismantle the existing society. Wielgus , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:49 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

@geokat62

Miller's maternal grandfather had sought to emigrate to the USA from Lithuania and got off the ship at its destination, which he thought was New York. It was in fact Cork in Ireland. His daughter, Miller's father, became a well-known novelist in Ireland.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 7:53 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@silviosilver dn't commit a long long time ago?.

For me its more about recognition of past evils and their karmic effect on a nation and the color of skin doesn't come into it at all really but i do have a real soft spot for the native North American Indian cause because i have had shamanic past life recollections of being one and so i will always side with the Indians over the disgusting European invaders of North America and i will never ever forget those photos i have seen of absolutely humungous piles of shot Bison that were killed in an attempted genocide of the Indians and if the Indians scalped many out of revenge then i hope that the pain was excruciatingly intense.

Muaddib , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:02 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago

Here is something to consider: Liberals in general are happy people. Conservatives, on the other hand, have a victim mentality.
You could see that conservatives had this victim mentality even under Trump.
Also, from my own experience, the conservative types have fucked up lives. Due to their own issues, they lash out.
Could it not be that the reason you have a bad life is due to your own problems? Instead of blaming immigrants or blacks and hispanics, consider looking at your own life.

Reg Cæsar , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:04 pm GMT • 1.0 days ago
@DaveE terialism is genocide. Autogenocide.

If Adam and Eve are too Jewish for you, there is always Ask and Embla . Or Deucalion and Pyrrha . Or Dr Yakub .

Authenticjazzman , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:08 pm GMT • 23.9 hours ago
@Muaddib your idiotic mouth.

"It came from urban whites". At the time of the greate innovative wave in the US there was no such thing as "Urban" citizenry, as almost all major towns were located directly within farming territory, and a cosmopolitan mentality was nowhere to be found, guys like Edison, Ford,Tesla, held absolutely no connection to any sort of "Liberal" worldview.

Name a few of "Liberal" "Inventions" Come on give a list thereof.

You are a bloody ignoramous and full of shit up to your ears. You have no clue as to what you are blathering about.

AJM "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz artist.

DT 2020

AnonFromTN , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:22 pm GMT • 23.7 hours ago
@Muaddib

Bow down to Biden.

Logic is certainly not your strong suit. Why would people of any color capable of anything worth mentioning bow down to a corrupt senile stuffed shirt?

wakeupscreaming , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:22 pm GMT • 23.7 hours ago

"At this point, it seems unlikely that Trump is going to prevail in his legal challenges. "

Oh, do you know something we don't?
I've been reading tons of alternative media, and it's looking good for President Trump.

GeneralRipper , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:22 pm GMT • 23.7 hours ago
@Questioner nk it would probably be best for you and all those who agree with you to kill their family and extended family, and then blow their own brains out. Firstly, to atone for "white guilt" and "white privilege" and secondly as a constructive means of reducing the white population in these "stolen" Injun lands. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Of course, if you worthless cunts can't summon the nerve to do that, then you should at the very least, REMOVE YOUR OWN WHITE ITINERANT ASS from this "stolen land".

Africa, China or Mexico beckons. Bon Voyage!

It's known as "leadership by example".

We won't be holding our breath.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:27 pm GMT • 23.6 hours ago
@Muaddib The average Biden voter = anti-White and yes there are anti-White white people, I call them WINOs short for White In Name Only or better yet, white traitor trash

I think liberals have went the way of the Dodo Bird. And no, racist Jews, who PRETEND to love everyone Black, Brown, etc., anyone except Whites are only pretending to love POC to USE THEM against Whitey. Case in point, in Israel they export African Jews all the time proving that Judaism isn't a religion but a race. Nope, I doubt Sammy Davis Jr. would have ever truly been welcomed to move to Israel. And there is no such thing as a nonwhite liberal, nonwhites are tribal as hell and only out for themselves.

Muaddib , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:28 pm GMT • 23.6 hours ago
@Authenticjazzman ated? How about, uh, everything, including the internet you are using? Yes, and immigants and minorities contributed.
If you don't like liberals, maybe you should start by turning off your computer.
But let me guess, you want to breathe the liberal air.
You brag about your Mensa score. And what did you achive with that? Hatred for liberals? So what good was your Mensa? It was probably a fraud.
Look around you. The world has changed. You are basically an Amish in a sea of modernity.
This is what you get when you don't meet people of all types.
Just old, disgruntled and blaming others because your life wasn't ideal.
Authenticjazzman , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:30 pm GMT • 23.6 hours ago
@Muaddib

"Liberals are in general happy people"

Yeah this is why they fill the waiting rooms of shrinks to be pumped full of psycho-drugs, and resort to "screaming at the sky" when their political party loses an election.

Liberals are the most disturbed, troubled grouping of individuals to be found world-wide. They are the nut-cases who stick themselves full of needles and pins , and dye their hair blue so as to present their deranged worldview for all to see.

Again you are a hopeless moron and have no clue as to what you are blathering about.

AJM

gay troll , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:31 pm GMT • 23.6 hours ago
@Zarathustra

Indeed, all land belongs to the birds. Humans may only claim sovereignty to the indoors.

GeneralRipper , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:34 pm GMT • 23.5 hours ago
@Muaddib

Here is something to consider: Liberals in general are happy people. Conservatives, on the other hand, have a victim mentality.

Yes, we've seen myriad examples of those happy, well adjusted, tolerant "Liberal" people over the last four years. When they're not freaking out or breaking down, they're "lashing out" in the form of assaulting, burning, destroying, looting, and murdering etc

Certainly an inspiring example for us all.

What color is the sky in your world, numbnuts?

Art , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:35 pm GMT • 23.5 hours ago

Hmm -- not one "Jew" word!

Is the author of this article a coward – he attacks the weak blacks – and ignores the overpowering Jews.

Blacks are not America's problem – Jews are.

Do blacks own and or control social media, print media, broadcast media, Congress, the president, schools, Wall Street, and the Fed – or is it Jews. Be honest.

It is the Jews who siphon our wealth and divide us.

Jews control the cities that are devastated by black crime. Get the Jews out of control, and things will improve. Guaranteed!

Societies need both a political left and a political right – the Jew control of the left is killing America. (Actually, they control both.)

Jeff Costello needs to put on his big boy pants and attack the true evil in America.

PolarBear , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:42 pm GMT • 23.4 hours ago
@Pedro

Plenty in the US are pure Europeans. Many Nordic and German families are recent immigrants. Old Colonials often have slight Native admixture. Bantu Africans, Aztecs, ect. need to return all stolen territory aswell then.

Ugetit , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:44 pm GMT • 23.3 hours ago
@Wielgus

And not so long ago Trump and Netanyahu were such buddies

That, my friend, was exactly why I posted that. Thank you for emphasizing the point.

In case Wally doesn't get it, new boss is much the same as the old boss, and Netanyahu was never a friend to either, not that it should come as a surprise to anyone. Netanyahu won't give Trump a second thought after the "ingrovelation."

Sad stuff.

Muaddib , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:45 pm GMT • 23.3 hours ago
@Trinity

Huh?
Jews this and that. This is the problem with White Nationalists. You believe in conspiracy theories.
Newsflash: Soros does not control anything. He is old, and about to die. He has money. He is pretty much a moderate.

Qanon is stupidity. If any Mensa guy here believes in the stupidity known as Qanon, consider a retest.

jsigur , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:53 pm GMT • 23.2 hours ago

Comments like this, "while our blacks have been here a long time and some of them do sing, dance, and dribble well, they are mostly parasites who contribute almost nothing to the society except grief.", are all too common in white nationalist circles and gives the illusion of truth to the Jewish propaganda about us.
One has to wonder if that is the intention. It basically says white nationalists hate everyone but themselves which is exactly what Jews are saying about us in the propaganda system
This is not a closed site! Anyone can come in here and read these tacky remarks.
I think some of you need to follow the Jewish example which is hate the goy while you pretend to help them
In case you didn't know, non-whites are about 50% of the population now and considering all the fire power is in support of them against us. perhaps we can find another way to advocate our predicament

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:54 pm GMT • 23.2 hours ago
@Muaddib

I don't know their political views or what passes for a liberal but one thing is certain WHITES have contributed more than all the other races combined. Henry Ford, Wright Brothers, Tesla, Thomas Edison, etc., I don't think those guys were Jews or negroes.

My guess is YOU ARE NOT A LIBERAL, you are either an anti-White racist Jew, and or some other form of anti-White degenerate who HIJACKED the term, "liberal." In your case the correct tag would be, LIEberal.

christine , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:55 pm GMT • 23.2 hours ago
@Trinity

I think the Irish band Clannad wrote songs about and in solidarity with the North American Indians, so you could be right.

This genocide and the photographic images from it that i have seen will never be forgotten by me and the color of the faces of the Europeans with guns doesn't come into it and if i mentioned 'white euro scum' it was to differentiate between northern Europeans and those a bit darker/olive skinned southern Europeans that invaded lands further south than todays U.S.A.

Peace.

GeneralRipper , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:56 pm GMT • 23.1 hours ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

It's not language or race or skin colour, its CULTURE.

Hate to break the news to you, bossman, but "language, race and skin color" as well as religion have very much to do with CULTURE.

The author makes a lot of cogent and well-reasoned points, but his delivery lacks nuance and has a coarseness which suggests prejudice to the point of racism.

I'm afraid any jackass who accepts or gives credence to the enemy's descriptors of those who naturally honor and favor their own race to others, does not really deserve to be taken seriously.

jsigur , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:56 pm GMT • 23.1 hours ago
@GeneralRipper

My way or the highway? Great talking points!
You do know almost all Indians were wiped out as the result of Jewish colonialism, right?

Commentator Mike , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:58 pm GMT • 23.1 hours ago
@The Real World

Fwiw, I'm willing to go the step further and view the author as a likely racist and supremacist. Most people like that have lived sheltered lives and had little exposure to a variety of peoples. Many of their assertions are simply empty and unaware of ahem the real world.

You shouldn't make personal statements about people you don't know. You could read more of this author's work to discover his ideological evolution and that his views result from life experience and not the lack of it.

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 12, 2020 at 8:59 pm GMT • 23.1 hours ago
@christine

The Indians didn't scalp out of revenge, they scalped because they were primitive savages.

On or about the year 1,300 AD long before the Siberians saw a single white man, one tribe of Siberians murdered, scalped, and ate every single one of the 498 women and children of the losing tribe whose men the victorious Siberians had slaughtered.

And we know this because we found the bones of the women and children at Crow Creek in 1978.

Tell me, when you were a Shaman in your past life how much Man Corn did you eat?

tomo , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:05 pm GMT • 23.0 hours ago
@Peter Frost ly of all ages as well as tourist to hear their opinion – and I have never met anyone who does not agree or has similar stories. People are very lonely here and there is too much virtue signaling without any virtue. I spent a few months on a placement in one of the biggest hospitals in Toronto – and what I have seen there confirms my experience. Every day there was one or two teenagers (white) trying to kill themselves. That's only what I have seen while on ER. I spoke to mental 'health' patients too.
There is far too much passive aggressive backstabbing here in Canada – definitely more than I have seen anywhere (I've lived in London, LA, SF, DC, Serbia , Germany etc)
geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:10 pm GMT • 22.9 hours ago
@Wielgus

His daughter, Miller's father, became a well-known novelist in Ireland.

You lost me. How are these individuals related, again?

Muaddib , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:13 pm GMT • 22.9 hours ago
@Trinity ve equal rights. Immigrants have equal rights. DACA folks who came here due to no fault of their own need to be given a chance to stay here, etc.
2. Social programs can be good for society. Think not just social security, but also healthcare for all.

When you treat everybody with respect, by nature you are a happy person.
I will tell you something. If somehow all immigrants and minorities were kicked out, you would still be unhappy. The reason is that you are by nature unhappy.

So think about where your life is. Whose fault is that? Put your ego aside. It was YOUR decisions.
So why blame anybody else?

anonymous [110] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:15 pm GMT • 22.8 hours ago

Trump did not do much to curb legal immigration especially H1B and international students until the very end, a couple of months before the election. Now Biden is about to undo everything and let the MexChindian third world horde wash over us. The dumb millennials who complained about being unemployed or underemployed with massive student loan debt will have an even harder time finding a job now. I've often wondered why these idiots still insist on voting for Biden.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/11/12/biden-presidency-offers-promise-reset-international-education-challenges-remain

Another regulatory change, now in the proposed rule stage, would eliminate the H-1B visa lottery in favor of prioritizing applicants earning higher wages.

"It basically will again ice out anyone who's entry-level," said Sharvari Dalal-Dheini, director of government relations for the American Immigration Lawyers Association. Many international students use the H-1B visa as a pathway for staying to work in the U.S. after they graduate.

The least Trump could do on his way out is to finalize this crucial rule as a parting gift to his base which largely stuck by him. It took him long enough to finally get to this. He should've cancelled H1b and OPT on Day 1. If he had done that he might have won the election.

Trinity , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:26 pm GMT • 22.6 hours ago
@christine frican children and women, as well as adult males being slaughtered in South Africa by marauding racist genocidal Blacks?

Hmm, IF you are TRULY concerned about injustice in a demonic world, why aren't you concerned about Whites?

Do you feel for the Whites who endured the Holodomor? Did you know that Genrikh Yagoda and Lazar Kaganovich, two chief architects of the systemic starvation of MILLIONS of Ukrainian and Russian Whites were Jewish?

The FACT THAT YOU DID NOT ADDRESS WHAT IS HAPPENING IN SOUTH AFRICA, just shows me that you are MORE ANTI-WHITE than someone who really cares about humanity, truth or justice. Hell, you probably are not even (((Irish.)))

R2b , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:34 pm GMT • 22.5 hours ago

That you americans vote for that mafioso, is beyond comprehension.
You are so extremely stupid, and I am sorry to say, you bring it on all of us!
Why do you even vote for Bidén!?
Vote for Trump and after half term, create a more representative party.
The freest country in the world, and you just let it happen.
Anyway, I dont believe the official result.
You americans have not been that stupid.
Take the banner of Christ!
And reject zionism.
And reclaim youre country!
The world is waiting.

Stonehands , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:37 pm GMT • 22.5 hours ago
@Ugetit

You said more truth -right there in 25 words- than Ron Unz can say in 10,000

Kudos, my friend.

Emslander , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:42 pm GMT • 22.4 hours ago

Complete drivel. As a German-American of almost two centuries of heritage, I don't identify with your labels, priorities or prejudices.

If you're concerned about certain colors of people having more children than you, the solution is simply to be generous with the Creator with your families. Have more children.

Negrolphin Pool , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:44 pm GMT • 22.3 hours ago
@animalogic

Americans who identify as white are over 95 percent genetically European.

And when the problem is existential, giving 101 reasons why a solution won't work as evidence that we shouldn't even try is plain demoralization.

Robjil , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:55 pm GMT • 22.2 hours ago
@Muaddib

When Kings ruled Europe, people could call them out.

The problem with our new rulers, we can't call them out.

It is anti-S -- – to do so.

Rulers should not be protected like this. It stops all talk or possible corrections of the actions of our Rulers.

That is the situation that we are in the west.

It is reality. All ethnic groups are effected by our Rulers. It is not a white, black, blue, green, purple or any color one can apply to a people.

Daniel Rich , says: November 12, 2020 at 9:56 pm GMT • 22.1 hours ago
@The Real World

They were free to continue traditions from native lands but, they had to learn our language, obey our laws

Then who were the ones who decided what the language of the native land would be and what laws to adhere to ?

They?
Us?
Them?
We?

Robert Dolan , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:00 pm GMT • 22.1 hours ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/GwbTRmt8jDo/

aleksander , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:10 pm GMT • 21.9 hours ago
@RoatanBill at all times.

We're dealing with serious control freaks here people. I wish people would just realize that the COMMUNISTS stole the election and are about to go full Bolshevik on us.

YT is already petrified by blacks at work. One slip up, and it's off to the HR gulag archipelago, then full termination. Anyone who is not a "true believer" in the Revolution, will be scheduled for termination.

Amazing how history repeats itself. YT has been so programmed to think of everyone as "nice," that they can't even come close to imagining that Satanic Marxist pedophiles just stole a national election.

As if anyone could make peace with such Hellspawn.

GeneralRipper , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:11 pm GMT • 21.9 hours ago
@jsigur https://i1.wp.com/historyreviewed.best/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/excellent-white-supremacy-joseph-sobran.jpeg?resize=720%2C582

That's the facts, Jack. Who gives a Fiddler's fuck if it offends your delicate sensibilities?

White Christian European people, and White Americans in particular, will apologize when every other race, nation and religion are duly scrutinized and exposed for their "crimes" and "atrocities".

Which will most likely happen in the reign of Queen Dick lol

We are not now, nor will we EVER be, ashamed of our history or our people, despite the best efforts of the Jew Globalist Left.

Quite the contrary.

anon [110] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:12 pm GMT • 21.9 hours ago

I would not count on the GOP, even with a 52 vote majority, to stop any attempt at immigration reform by the Dems. There are enough RINOs in there including both of the R from Utah(Mike Lee, Mitt Romney), Marco Rubio, Lindsay Graham, Lisa Murkowsky, Joni Ernst, to name but a few, who could easily go with the Dems on reform.

Mike Lee (R-UT), one of Trump's faves, has been trying to push through the Indian green card bill S. 386 for at least the last two years. The bill was originally to give employment based greencards, some 140k per year, to Indian nationals only for the next ten years. After being blocked 3 times by 3 different senators – Perdue(R-GA), Dick Durban(D-IL), Rick Scott(R-FL), the bill has morphed into a monster.

With each blockage, the bill keeps getting changed to include more and more beneficiaries. In its final iteration, it will now 1) up the per country limit for family based greencard from 7% to 15%, 2) completely eliminate the per country cap of 7% for employment based visa, 3) remove an offset that reduced visas available for Chinese nationals, 4) Reserve a percentage(didn't say what %) of EB2 and EB3 visas (both for high skills) to nationals from outside the top two countries (which I am guessing are India and China), with max of no more than 85% from any single country.

Most importantly, the latest iteration of this bill will treat any Indian who has applied for a green card as already having one, with all the benefits of a greencard while they wait, incl. being able to travel, change jobs.

More Americans need to wake up to this type of treasonous bills being pushed by GOP senators:

https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2020/08/07/mike-lees-s386-bill-creates-green-card-lite-for-more-migrants/

Sen. Rick Scott of FL referred the bill to the Senate Judiciary Committee, and he has been attacked as KKK by Indian tech workers lobby.
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/08/31/rick-scott-torpedoes-mike-lees-s-386-h-1b-outsourcing-bill/

PolarBear , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:12 pm GMT • 21.9 hours ago
@jsigur

There is many Jews here but I see nothing untrue about stating the fact that Blacks contribute very little. You've stated nothing Blacks contributed and merely whined about Whites doing what every non-White race does more than Whites. No race has been more of a "schwartze-lover" than Whites. Whites should be more honest about race and stop believing Blacks are magical. Whites should not tolerate any bad behavior from Blacks or any non-White race for that matter.

Nancy O'Brien Simpson , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:13 pm GMT • 21.9 hours ago

This is a joke, right? Millions of non-whites are simply going to get up and leave their homes, jobs, schools, neighborhoods so that Whites can have a little patch of paradise? Has our dear article author been hitting the crack pipe again?
I got news for you. The world is not flat. Leeches do not suck disease out of humans. The earth is brown, no longer yellow, red, black, and white. It gets browner every day.
As for a shared culture and a homeland, the whites were the only race dumb enough not to preserve theirs. Japan is almost 100% Asian. China is Asian. Africa is black. India is Indian. The USA is a mixture of everything. Europe is a mixture of everything. The whites were the only race with the inability to preserve a homeland. Hence they are too shortsighted to deserve one.

jsm , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:16 pm GMT • 21.8 hours ago
@Truth

What?
Troof?
What are you still hanging around here for? Did you not read Questioner? You're squatting on stolen land and you need to vamoose.

Tom , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:23 pm GMT • 21.7 hours ago
@Priss Factor

Whites need to get increasingly audacious using insulting humor of the Charlie Hebdo, or SNL kind. It's free speech, right? I feel empowerment growing among Whites during the Voter Fraud Saga and I think there will be a lot less self-censorship from now on. The hate speech laws need to be brought to court so that a charge of "racism" has to be substantiated, or otherwise ruled as a federal hate crime. Who started the whole Racism Industry? Could it have been Jewish intellectuals in their pursuit of the cultural and economic genocide of Gentiles?

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 10:33 pm GMT • 21.5 hours ago
@Felix Krull or more items according to specified parameters.

In common usage, though, "discriminate" is taken to mean the unfair treatment of one party compared to another. Again, typically regarded as an uncivilised activity. And again, this may be pertinent within a given context, but is not automatically true.

So, strictly speaking, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with "racism".

However, IMO the author uses language which suggests disdain for black Americans (for example). If that is an expression of "racism", then it would be in the colloquially "bad" context.

Regardless, IMO the emphasis on the racial dimension limits the article's perspective. Is "Trumpism" just a white movement, or is it an American movement, or is it something more (or less)?

onebornfree , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 10:35 pm GMT • 21.5 hours ago

"The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans"
Here's a real "red pill" for murkans [and the rest of the world], stated 3 different ways:

"Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure" Robert LeFevere

"Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class." Albert J. Nock

"Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be "reformed"or "improved",simply because of their innate criminal nature." onebornfree

"Regards" onebornfree

Thomasina , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:41 pm GMT • 21.4 hours ago
@anon He's the one the people voted for, not them, and they are just waking up to this now.

It's the same type of diversion the Democrats just tried to pull off with Antifa and BLM. They got everybody looking at "White Supremacy", racial and identity issues so that you wouldn't be looking at the money the elites are skimming off the top. I'm sure they could have cared less about the POC.

The elites are fighting Trump hard; they don't want him changing anything. They knew it would be mainly "Whites" voting for Trump, so they invented this White Supremacy bullshite.

Yes, the people who voted for Trump ARE interested in immigration, and so is Trump.

AnonFromTN , says: November 12, 2020 at 10:47 pm GMT • 21.3 hours ago
@Authenticjazzman

stick themselves full of needles and pins , and dye their hair blue so as to present their deranged worldview for all to see

Yep, that describes it. I understand that a lot of people cannot help being stupid, but I never understood why people want to aggressively advertise their stupidity. Perverted exhibitionism, maybe?

lloyd , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 10:53 pm GMT • 21.2 hours ago

Costello seems a strange choice of nom de plume for a white nationalist. I at least identify the name as Shepardi Jew. The J word never comes up in the article with its problematic issue of where Jews fit in a white nationalist homeland. Has anyone noticed the only high profile non retired public figure left with a wasp name and is not black is Homer Simpson? I am of course exaggerating but the signs are there. With the demise of the white wasps has come the fall of foundation America. The non wasps don't really share its cultural sentiments. Its sobriety is lacking except among the best black people who share its names. I am thinking of Ben Carson. Homer Simpson is a cartoon of a simple slobbish white American. There is no public movement to remove him of course. So it isn't really surprising America is going the catastrophic way of her sourthern neighbours.

Q Anon is clearly JFK jr. His crash and recovery was prophesised in the Nostradamus Quatrain for July of 1999. He carries on the legacy of the Kennedys since grandfather Joe as does his cousin Robert Kennedy.

geokat62 , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:10 pm GMT • 20.9 hours ago

Brother Nathanael's latest instalment is a doozy, FAKE NEWS, FAKE ELECTION :


https://www.bitchute.com/embed/LRQK9TfcNJM2/

Hardest-hitting passage:

Cackling Commie Kamal, who humped her way to the top, married Big Tech lawyer Jew, Douglas Emhoff, a few years back.

The Jew would be "First Man" and you can kiss your First Amendment goodbye.

Big Tech -- (with Emhoff's impending high position and legal conniving) -- will be free to ban all 'hate speech,' which is 'speech' Jews 'hate' to hear.

And the entire Jew-owned media and their leftist political machine operatives will decide all elections from henceforth now and forever.

You are about to enter the Twilight Zone -- a Jew-ruled, Jew-ruined, Jew-controlled America.

Full transcript

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Truth , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:13 pm GMT • 20.9 hours ago
@jsm

I won a lottery given by the renters, and was given free transatlantic transport.

Dum Spiro Spero , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:15 pm GMT • 20.8 hours ago

Fake Pope to fake president:
https://novusordowatch.org/2020/11/pope-francis-congratulates-joe-biden/

Priss Factor , says: Website November 12, 2020 at 11:18 pm GMT • 20.8 hours ago
@DaveE an mean the need for white unity & power. Or it can mean white power as the basis for world domination. Nationalism need not be imperialist but often took an imperialist turn in the past when a nation became very powerful.
In contrast, 'liberation' emphasizes the need for whites to seek emancipation from the current power that dominates the West and the World which is Jewish Power. (Even 'white national liberation' sounds better than mere 'white nationalism'.) White Politics that only focuses on whites and white power is less likely to be appealing than White Politics that seeks freedom from the actual tyranny that rules the world: Jewish Supremacist Power or JSP.
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anon [773] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:19 pm GMT • 20.8 hours ago

I think more likely, whites will sink into despair and return to a state of apathy for politics. I don't see any Republican being able to generate the kind of enthusiasm Trump did. Tucker Carlson does not have the financial backing or the personality cult. Josh Hawley and Tom Cotton are two Zionist social conservatives who will revert back to the GOP's standard abortion, abortion, abortion and say nothing about immigration or non-interventionism to rouse enough interest from Trump's base.

The only way for white nationalism to stay alive is if Trump stays politically active through outlets like Newsmax TV and Gab.com , and return for another run for office in 2024. However he needs to be very careful. Once he leaves office he will no longer have the kind of security protection given him as POTUS. There had been many assassination attempts while he's in office (at least 6 I've heard of), he could put himself in great danger if he continues to stay in the limelight to position himself for 2024.

As far as a separate whites only nation within the US, look at states that are probably the whitest – Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, all are heavily (D). A fat lot of good that does. TX will be (D) by 2024, too many Hispanics and CA transplants, like AZ and NV. Whites are too splintered, thanks in large part to single white women, who voted 62% in favor of Biden, compared to married white women who went for Trump 55%. White women are marrying and having children at an ever lower rate due to lack of eligible men. White women graduated from college at 60% to 40% compared to white men. As most women only want to marry up, college educated women rarely want to date much less marry non-college educated men. Due to height issues, most white women would only date white men or occasionally, black men. Asian and Hispanic men are too short and unromantic. Meanwhile more and more white men are marrying Asian and Hispanic women. White women are running out of men to date, marry and start a family. More unmarried white women means more white votes will be going for Biden.

frankie p , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:32 pm GMT • 20.5 hours ago
@anon

The American Conservative is no longer really conservative on many issues. Ron is not running things there any more, and they have been compromised.

Robjil , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:33 pm GMT • 20.5 hours ago
@aleksander icagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-viz-joe-biden-election-celebration-photos-20201107-nskvgzvp3necvfv6nnd42hzpm4-photogallery.html

Supporters of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden celebrate after he was elected the 46th president of the United States on Nov. 7, 2020.

https://www.thoughtco.com/russian-revolution-timeline-1779473

October 25 (November 7 NS): The October Revolution begins when the Bolsheviks take over Petrograd (also called the November Revolution if following the Gregorian calendar).

anonymous [773] Disclaimer , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:34 pm GMT • 20.5 hours ago
@Thomasina two months before this election that he proposed some rule changes to H1b, and still none of those rules have been finalized and probably never will. He made these tech plantation owners many times richer through the stock market, while they treated him with contempt and helped bring him down. What an idiot!

If Trump had cancelled H1b, OPT, L1 and all other work visas and forced our employers to hire and train US workers on Day 1 as he promised, he might have won by a landslide by now. The only group that went down in votes for him in 2020 is white men, because too many feel betrayed by him in immigration. All he cares about is taking care of Jews and blacks, both Jews in Israel and on Wall Street. He trusted wormtongue too much, and that's his downfall.

Afterthought , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:35 pm GMT • 20.5 hours ago

Let's just separate.

frankie p , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:37 pm GMT • 20.5 hours ago
@Thomasina

Richard Pilger is (was) the top DOJ Official investigating voter fraud who resigned after Barr authorized federal prosecutors to pursue "substantial allegations" of voter irregularities before the election outcome is certified. He is a swamp rat, a cretin, one of many who should have been drained from the swamp long ago.

John Pilger, on the other hand, is a hero, a filmmaker and journalist with a long, excellent record of shining light on malfeasance and bad behavior of politicians of every stripe.

GeneralRipper , says: November 12, 2020 at 11:46 pm GMT • 20.3 hours ago
@Nancy O'Brien Simpson

Nancy, you are definitely the type of Irish I would have no trouble killing, along with Joe Biden and John Brennan.

Numerous instances of Irish killing Irish, especially in the US.

You need to learn the lesson again.

Richard B , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:25 am GMT • 19.7 hours ago
@Robjil

The culture of the Chosen people does not understand the concept of compassion. This is why the world has been in a very sad place for the last hundred or so years since 12.23.1913.

Exactly!

And thanks for the link and quote.

anonymous [284] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:25 am GMT • 19.7 hours ago
@Priss Factor the white race and goyim in general. Just ask the Palestinians about the nature of Jewish Power.

Spot on here. Don't expect Biden to let up though. The Jew owned media (both msm and "conservative" media e.g. Zerohedge, Breitbart, National Review, Fox News) will keep up the pressure. I see a future, perhaps in two decades, where East Asian immigration to the US will come to a screeching halt, and most likely even go into reverse as more East Asians return to their homelands because Jews, negroes, homos, trannies, stupid white women, Latino drug gangs, Muslim terrorists, Sub Saharan African welfare leeches, Indian H1b slaves with their clannishness, collusion with Jews and caste-ism make the US an increasingly unlivable hellhole. Oldtradesman , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:28 am GMT • 19.6 hours ago

@Truth

I won a lottery given by the renters, and was given free transatlantic transport.

Your line's post-African existence and ability to publicly complain like little girls owes much to the transatlantic slave trade. Thank the niggas who sold your ancestors into slavery, nigga.

annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:52 am GMT • 19.2 hours ago
@noname27

https://www.youtube.com/embed/5_cNZH6ohgw?feature=oembed

http://therealistreport.com/how-the-holocaust-was-faked

DonutsMan , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:54 am GMT • 19.2 hours ago

There's plenty of majority-white states you can move to if Pale Skin is so important to you. Go to West Virginia, for instance.

Majority-white states with conservative governments tend to be dull, economically depressed and stagnant. The same will characterize the imaginary white secessionist state you fetishize.

It's amazing to me that someone could speak with such satisfaction about other people being subjugated simply because of their color. But then again, animals like you have no morals nor any decency.

That's why the vast majority of whites in this country will say "no thanks" to your ugly message.

GeneralRipper , says: November 13, 2020 at 12:59 am GMT • 19.1 hours ago
@Afterthought

That's not allowed.

See 1861.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:01 am GMT • 19.1 hours ago

A lot to unpack by the author, who is simply stating things we already have heard previously.

"A White Nationalist is someone who believes that white peoples have a right to their own homelands."

You do have your own homelands. It's just that in a number of cases, you invaded other homelands for gimmedats and free stuff.

"So that, as a White Nationalist, I am a German nationalist, an English nationalist, a Scottish nationalist, a French nationalist, etc. Or, at least, I support all those nationalisms."

And what about Eastern and Southern Europeans? Why no example of you being a Polish nationalist or a Slavic nationalist? Remember, these groups were deemed to be other than heritage Americans–dirty, filthy papists who should have never entered our shores with their alien mannerisms.

"To be a white nationalist in America is really to recognize that the core "American people" are the white people whose ancestors built the country and who continue to pay for it. Thus, American White Nationalism = American nationalism."

The reality is that American nationalism is defined by each person and group how they view it.

"Since it now looks impossible to go back to the good old days when we had blacks in complete subjection"

Slavery and Jim Crow laws were decidedly anti-American nationalism, and were patently unjust and immoral.

"white Americans will never work toward a white American homeland unless they are aware of themselves as White Americans"

We are aware of ourselves as white Americans, just not in the manner you prefer. Do we not have agency? Must we submit to your definition of what is and what is not a white nationalist?

"that we effectively secede from the USA and carve out our own white space (or spaces) within North America. It is this latter option that now seems like it may be our only option, and something we must work toward."

It will take a fight. Will you be front and center, or far away from the hostilities?

"The country was already fractured along political lines. Now it is completely broken Now their faith has been completely and irreparably shattered. And this is hugely significant for us And those many millions of whites are now choking down a gigantic red pill. As we all know, the red pill is the path to liberation."

What you are doing here is ASSUMING. The "us" is not "we". It's only those people who you know for absolute certain are on your side.

"It seems that there is credible evidence that there was voter fraud in the election"

More like accusations that need to meet the burden of proof.

"Take it from me -- from my own personal experience: once you have accepted that one big thing is a total sham, you begin to wonder whether everything else is."

So why would we want to be duped like you?

"It would take whites being pushed to a point where they are so angry they speak and behave imprudently, damning the consequences."

LOL. I've heard this argument for the past 40 years! It's always a "well, we are upset now, but just want until we really get mad, then we will put heads on pikes". Either put up or shut up.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:01 am GMT • 19.1 hours ago
@Oldtradesman

Why didn't your ancestors pick their own damn cotton?

SC Rebel , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:08 am GMT • 18.9 hours ago
@noname27

(((They))) brought them here

Even Farrakhan gets that.

Peter Frost , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 1:10 am GMT • 18.9 hours ago
@tomo e powerless?

The situation is somewhat better for young whites whose parents were immigrants. Their family structure is more stable, and they have a possible escape route. I know several who have "returned" to Europe, even though they were born here. But it's stupid and ignorant to tell old-stock Canadians they have that option. My ancestors left England in the 19th century, and the ancestors of French Canadians left France in the 17th and 18th centuries. We're indigenous.

I agree that "people are very lonely here" but that's relatively recent. The breakdown of the family began in the 1960s and became "normal" in the 1990s. Again, it has nothing to do with climate or geography -- other than the fact we're next door to the United States and its culture.

Factorize , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:16 am GMT • 18.8 hours ago
@tomo

tomo, I have been thinking a great deal about income inequality lately (especially the relative income hypothesis (i.e., all of our social problems are caused by differences in income)). I would love to hear your comments on this question given your wide ranging experiences around the globe. Would life really be better for us all if we Scandanavianized?

Jim Bob Lassiter , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:17 am GMT • 18.8 hours ago
@Montefrío

Brazil (Portugal) was the largest consignee of African slaves in both absolute numbers and on per capita white colonizer basis. The Anglo North American mainland was far less of a slave based economy. Brazil was also the last nation in the Americas to outlaw slavery -- and it was done without 600,000 white men slaughtering each other and burning the defeated side's country to the ground.

GeneralRipper , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:18 am GMT • 18.8 hours ago
@Corvinus

Because it was cheaper to have nigger's do it, so your type could purchase it.

You are a disgrace, Corvie,

But I'm sure you already understand that.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:18 am GMT • 18.8 hours ago
@anon

"I think more likely, whites will sink into despair and return to a state of apathy for politics."

If you are someone who "doesn't want to get your hopes up" or "is afraid to be disappointed" or "is concerned that it might be a trap" or "seriously hope you're wrong", or sees doom in every direction, then this is not the place for you. I'm not saying that you're a bad person or that anyone here wishes you ill. I'm simply stating a simple fact: this is not the place for you. No one here is interested in your fears, your worries, your psychological vagaries, or your concerns.

All the best, Vox Day

Ugetit , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:23 am GMT • 18.7 hours ago
@Stonehands

Thanks! It's nice to be appreciated!

Oldtradesman , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:24 am GMT • 18.7 hours ago
@Corvinus

My ancestors didn't own slaves, but it wouldn't matter if they did. The statement remains, Troof's post-African line owes its very existence and ability to complain like little bitches to the transatlantic slave trade. Falsify it or fuck off, traitor.

Ugetit , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:27 am GMT • 18.6 hours ago
@aleksander

I wish people would just realize that the COMMUNISTS stole the election and are about to go full Bolshevik on us.

True, but I wish people would just realize that the COMMUNISTS stole the election from the Zionists and are about to go full Bolshevik on us.

Robert Dolan , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:39 am GMT • 18.4 hours ago
@DonutsMan

The majority white states have the highest quality of life ..low crime .church-going Christians ..lower housing costs .family friendly environment.

Contraviews , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:43 am GMT • 18.4 hours ago

The Dems were quite determined to remove Trump from office by hook and by crook. First by the fabricated Russiagate fake story When they did not succeed by impeachment. Now today by a fraudulent election. They, the MIC appear to have succeeded. We are back in the Bush/Obama era.

Montefrío , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:00 am GMT • 18.1 hours ago
@Jim Bob Lassiter

Thanks for the info.

Your point about the slaughter in the USA is well taken. Nevertheless, I believe it was unnecessary and that the war there wasn't truly about slavery. Hell, I lived in an African nation for three and a half years and saw some slavery first hand; that was 40 years ago, mind, and the slaves were by and large as happy as clams. WASPy culture is peculiar if you ask me, which of course you didn't, but even so Who are the "slaves" now in the USA? Hmmm?

Oldtradesman , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:06 am GMT • 18.0 hours ago
@GeneralRipper

You are a disgrace, Corvie,

But I'm sure you already understand that.

Corvie's "moral authority" is equivalent to the Negro chieftain who sold Troof's Negro ancestor into slavery in exchange for pretty rocks and trinkets, and less than the "white-debils" who bought him.

Corvie and Troof can fuck off.

Trinity , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:07 am GMT • 18.0 hours ago
@Corvinus those people worried about kissing Black ass are either COWARDS like all those white traitor trash rich kids or Jews who really use Blacks as pawns. More than likely that rich leftist self hating white trash is the person who owned slaves or some Jew who blames it all on Whitey. Either way, Whites have been enslaved themselves by Arabs and are in some ways slaves today in their own land.

You worried about Blacks, sucka, why does Israel push out Black Jews? Jive talkin', sucka, keep it a hunnert up in here, turkey. Why did Leo Frank try to blame a Black man for his crime? lololol. Cue the Bee Gees "Jive Talkin" for all the (((trolls))) up in here. Yo, playa, we gotz dis.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:09 am GMT • 17.9 hours ago
@GeneralRipper

"Because it was cheaper to have nigger's do it, so your type could purchase it."

I know, it is the inherent nature of Southrons to be lazy. It's in born.

"You are a disgrace, Corvie,"

I'm not the one who has made empty threats of violence on a opinion webzine against a woman (snicker snack). You said, "Nancy, you are definitely the type of Irish I would have no trouble killing, along with Joe Biden and John Brennan". You've sunk to a new low.

Ron Unz , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:14 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago
@Montefrío he bulk of black slaves went to the Spanish colonies, not the American colonies"

Could you please cite supporting evidence for this assertion?

All the academic accounts I've read indicate that only about 5% of the African slaves shipped across the Atlantic were sent to the mainland English colonies that became the United States, while the rest went to areas of Latin America and the Caribbean. However, these latter included Portuguese, English, French, and Dutch colonies, as well as Spanish ones. The reason their need for slaves was so enormous was that the death rate in the plantations producing sugar and other lucrative crops was extremely high. Rogue , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:15 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago

@christine

You are a most silly woman (assuming you're a woman).

Maybe the folks who say women shouldn't be allowed to vote have a point

John Johnson , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:15 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago
@christine iv>

All human DNA is southern African you numpty.

Did lactase persistence originate in southern Africa?

Egalitarian response:
Oh but that's the exception along with any other non-cognitive changes we might accept if you prove they exist. But we won't talk about them and will keep telling children that everyone is African.

Imagine if other fields of study had to follow this insanity.

American wolves don't exist unless you are talking about DNA changes in American wolves that separate them from European wolves. But other than those changes that would denote a different subspecies they don't exist.

Hang All Text Drivers , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:17 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago

"""But all the voices on the far-Right who labeled Trump "a distraction" have now been proved correct. Trump actually wound up doing little for white people -- despite being continually vilified by the Left as a white supremacist""""

At least the author got that right. Trump was elected to remove the illegal aliens (almost all of them non-white) and he did practically nothing in 4 years. It would have been easy to make them self-deport by taking away their jobs and freebies but he didn't do it.

Thomasina , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:18 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago
@frankie p

Thanks. Yes, I do know who John Pilger is. I guess I just typed in the wrong name. Good catch!

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:19 am GMT • 17.8 hours ago
@Oldtradesman

"Troof's post-African line owes its very existence and ability to complain like little bitches to the transatlantic slave trade."

Do you realize that there was a difference between African slavery and American chattel slavery?

https://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtid=2&psid=445

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Commentator Mike , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:22 am GMT • 17.7 hours ago
@Corvinus

So the landowner immigrants could pretend they were European aristocrats in parody version.

Montefrío , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:24 am GMT • 17.7 hours ago
@Ron Unz

Thank you, sir, particularly for the multi-national breakdown, so to speak.

When all is said and done, it was an ugly business, but long ago was long ago, and imho it has little to do with the world today. I'm Irish, and "we" weren't well treated long ago either, but we don't whine or whinge much. I wish that were true of others whose ancestors suffered hard times.

Me? At 74, life is wonderful! May it be so for all here!

Rogue , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:30 am GMT • 17.6 hours ago
@The Wild Geese Howard

Yep, judges are promoted lawyers.

And who ever said that lot were an honorable profession?

Ha ha.

But one or two are OK. I think of the Black dude on the US Supreme Court. Best Justice America has.

Of course, he's not your typical judge – or Black person.

Rogue , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:33 am GMT • 17.5 hours ago
@glib

They weren't red-pilled.

They were anything but.

Get your facts and terminology straight.

redmudhooch , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:36 am GMT • 17.5 hours ago

The Stolen Election Will Red-Pill 70 Million Americans is what the Establishment/Trump hope actually means The Stolen Election Will Keep 70 Million Americans on the Republicrat Plantation

Imagine thinking rich white conmen like Trump give a shit about you as a "white nationalist" or that Trump or GOP are against non-white immigration. Hahahahahahhahaha

Delusional. Trump wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. He and everyone around him have already made it clear you racist cracka ass niggaz aren't welcome in his circle or the GOP. Oprah Winfrey, Lil Pump, Lil Wayne and Kanye have more clout with Trump than you clowns. You should ask yourself why that is.

You, average white guy are no better than a dindu or a beaner in the eyes of rich capitalists. In fact you're less to them because you demand a living standard and wages that the beaner doesn't.

Let me know when Trump invites some homeless white veterans or any poor cracka for that matter to fill his hotels, you know since he cares so much for the white race. Yall should really take a look around if you believe these rich white guys are your allies. "White nationalism" is a hoax.

The rich white capitalist will stab you in the back every time, history has proven this over and over again, you're nothing but wage slaves, tax donkeys and cannon fodder to them, cracka.

Every election is stolen by the rich capitalists that own all the candidates and all the media. The CIA and Wall St run the country, not puppet politicians

This is not your country. It is up for sale to the highest bidder, welcome to capitalism. There are despots in Saudi Arabia that "own" more of this country than you losers. Poor low IQ right wingers, keep believing those fairy tales your owners like telling you. Hahahahaha

annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:44 am GMT • 17.3 hours ago
@Anonymous ards possessors of illicit drugs, but no -- Hunter is special!). Biden loves, loves the bomb, and he supported all 'humanitarian" interventions (mass-slaughters) on behalf of the war profiteers and zionists. Or perhaps you are fond of the murderous Clinton, and the Schiff-Schumer-Nadler triumvirate of traitors working diligently to destroy the US Consitution? Do you really believe in the patriotism of McCabe, Strzhok, Comey, Brennan, and Dm. Alperovitch? Too much FakeBook can be detrimental to one's cognitive function.

The woke crowd of 'progressives' is too much into the cheap revolutionary rhetoric skillfully inserted into their brains by Bernays' pupils working for MSM.

GazaPlanet , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:50 am GMT • 17.2 hours ago
@Authenticjazzman

The whole premise of the multi-cult Left is that divers racial minority groups, sanctimonious yankees and perverts join together under the aegis of Jewry to socially marginalize the rest of society. You cannot listen to these people for more than a minute without hearing them vent hatred against the NORMAL people. There's a reason the Jews are so dead-set against the way the white world was not too long ago. It's normal, it's sane, and they DON'T FIT IN. Their depraved appetites and megalomania don't fit in with Western, Christian Civilization.

Priss Factor , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 2:52 am GMT • 17.2 hours ago

Get yourself a Palestinian flag and shout "Palestine is our greatest ally."

Time for Goyexit and Whitexit from vile Jewish Supremacism. Enough is enough.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Palestinian-Flag-3×5-ft-Palestine-Free-State-Independent-National-Homeland/150672063565?hash=item2314c13c4d:g:LtAAAMXQk-FRFRHt

Trinity , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:54 am GMT • 17.2 hours ago
@Corvinus s))) and many of them looked and acted like Corvinus.

Slavery is ANCIENT HISTORY and your kind was very well involved in it, same as a lot of pompous Yankees who claim they fought to end slavery, blah, blah. The fact of the matter is that only a tiny percentage of Whites ever owned slaves in the South. Poor Whites weren't treated much better than Blacks for that matter, maybe YOUR ANCESTORS OWNED SLAVES, Corvie, just like good ole SJW Anderson Cooper.

Fact is Blacks are not exactly saints when it comes to the African Slave Trade themselves.

How about we stick to this century, (((Corvie.))) I don't see or hear Whites whining about being enslaved by Arabs.

annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:59 am GMT • 17.1 hours ago
@omegabooks

The MSM, FakeBook, Twitter, and Google must be demolished, considering their willful treasonous activities during the American color revolution (Russiagate).
By their vicious attacks on the First Amendment, the MSM, FakeBook, Twitter, and Google have rivaled the Lobby. Or perhaps they are, in reality, an extension of the Lobby.

Robert Dolan , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:00 am GMT • 17.1 hours ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/JmRjZ337KGEK/

GeneralRipper , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:00 am GMT • 17.1 hours ago
@Corvinus

I've told you numerous times, I will meet you IRL. Corvie.

If you think my threats are empty, then take me up on it.

What have you got to lose?

Majority of One , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:05 am GMT • 17.0 hours ago
@Malla

Thanks Malla, checked out.

GeneralRipper , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:11 am GMT • 16.9 hours ago
@Corvinus

It took your self righteous Yankee retards four long bloody years and eight successive commanders to defeat the "Lazy Southrons". Despite having a GDP five times as large and nearly twenty times the amount of military age males lol

All the while devastating the homes, towns and cities of the people in the South.

This next time around, you will get a taste of war and hate, Mr Corvinus.

Of course, I doubt a pussy ass bitch like you will stand and fight.

epochehusserl , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:16 am GMT • 16.8 hours ago
@Muaddib synonymous with abolishing social standards. We see the poisonous fruits of giving everybody respect rather than on conduct: an inability to use force in the face of rioting and looting instead focusing on people who call others harsh names, rewarding family breakdown, government debt, women screaming in the streets through bullhorns demanding that other people pay for their fornication, an unwillingness to condemn homosexuals for deliberately spreading AIDS for fear of being homophobic.

I will tell you something. If somehow all immigrants and minorities were kicked out, you would still be unhappy.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- –
Its a good place to start

Robert Dolan , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:16 am GMT • 16.8 hours ago

https://www.bitchute.com/video/hxrVAGuE7Oo1/

anonymous [284] Disclaimer , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:20 am GMT • 16.7 hours ago
@Factorize is worth.

Diversity makes everything worse.

Robert Putnam said in his book Bowling Alone that the more diverse a society, the less trust there is between people. He also found that in diverse communities, even whites distrust other whites, which makes them even more alienated, because the immigrants at least form their own ethnic communities. This is what is happening now in all Western countries. Whites are increasingly alienated in their own countries and societies due to over immigration, leading to depravity, depression and suicide. It's why birthrate is so low in Western European countries. It's also why immigration must stop, not just to bring back homogeneity and kinship, but to reduce the population so each life means more.

frontier , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:22 am GMT • 16.7 hours ago
@Muaddib for all.

Again, you're asking gimme dat while oblivious to the fundamentals. Social programs aren't payed for by the government the government doesn't make profits, it spends other peoples money which it collects at gun point . In order to satisfy you thirst for privileges the government has to literally rob someone else at gun point. Don't people have the right not to be robbed? Again, only criminals think the "right" to rob is more important than the right not to be. Moreover, the "good social programs" now stand at $185 Trillion of debt and other liabilities. Do you know what that number means? Nothing "good" about it. annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:23 am GMT • 16.7 hours ago

@Muaddib MSM? The dimwit wokes who avoid like a plague any discussion on Obama/Clinton's 'humanitarian interventions' in faraway countries, which resulted in a multitude of dead civilians, many of them children.

Biden is ready to intensify the illegal war against Syria (why his progeny has not joined the 'moderate terrorists' White Helmets is a mystery, don't you think so?). The old corrupted opportunist would begin a hot war with Russia without understanding what he is doing.

Sure, the MIC has been terribly unhappy with Trump -- not much of 'humanitarian interventions' during the last four years.

Oldtradesman , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:31 am GMT • 16.6 hours ago
@Corvinus

Do you realize that there was a difference between African slavery and American chattel slavery?

Do you realize you are lower than the Negro chieftain who sold Troof's ancestor to white debils in exchange for pretty rocks and trinkets?

It doesn't matter what the Negro chieftain knew or didn't. You certainly know more than he did, traitor.

Art , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:39 am GMT • 16.4 hours ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

I suggest adjusting the author's arguments to recognise the actual fundamental issue in play, which is not skin colour or race or language, but CULTURE.

Culture is everything! Culture determines how you treat your neighbor.

Hmm -- the average black in Mississippi has more Euro white Christian culture in him, then the average white in NY City. Hence NYC's dysfunction.

Anti-Christian Jews are responsible for black disfunction in NYC – period!

annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:45 am GMT • 16.3 hours ago
@Muaddib -- are you a whiny liberal of lgbtq variety, demanding a special bathroom and denouncing white privilege a la hypocritical Meghan Markle (and her ridiculous duke 'just harry'), or you used to be a 'conservative' but it was too boring for you? You know, family responsibilities, decent education, work ethics

California is the most liberal state in the US. But for some reason, Californias have been fleeing California like crazy. And you know what, the happy Liberal Californians have been fleeing to conservative states, without being invited. Last year, "the negative migration was the 9th year in a row for California."

Something is not right with your reasoning.

TKK , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:51 am GMT • 16.2 hours ago
@Stonewall Jackson

Ron Unz allows a base, boring, bitter troglodyte like you to post your rude and insulting garbage on HIS site where he accepts no advertising and runs out of his own pocket so all viewpoints can be discussed with a light hand and open mind.

You aren't fit to pump his gas.

anaccount , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:57 am GMT • 16.1 hours ago

I agree with the article but this election isn't actually over outside of the CNN newsroom.

If the powers that be want to weaken the right they will give Trump his (obvious) win but only after deluding democrats into thinking that they won the election. I think we are watching that play out right now.

annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:01 am GMT • 16.1 hours ago
@Muaddib Some of the 'immigrants' were from the Soviet Union where they received a fantastic education for nothing. The development of the Internet was conducted under the watchful eye of intelligence services; the involved have profited handsomely on the enterprise. Long before the 'immigrants' and their handlers made the killing, there were brilliant people like Ada Lovelace, Turing, and others who have prepared the ground for modern information technology.

Today, the woke profiteers ('liberals') at FakeBook and Google religiously follow the diktat of the CIA/FBI that serve war profiteers and financial Squid. These 'liberals' have been betraying the interests of human society at large.

James Scott , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:03 am GMT • 16.0 hours ago
@christine what is now North America wanted to stay in the stone age. They live in houses and drive cars. If whites had never came to what is now North America the people living here would still be stone age. It took Europeans over 6000 years to go from the iron age to the industrial age where we were when we founded the USA. There is no way the natives who were stone age would have been living modern lives.

Colonization was white people going around the world pulling stone age people into the modern world. Whites are non whites benefactors and only morons cannot see this.

You are not a good thinker. You should be posting on a cooking or sewing site. Politics is beyond your ken.

TKK , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:06 am GMT • 16.0 hours ago
@christine your enemy in a hide bag over a roaring fire and letting them roast to death.

The ant trap: coating your enemy in a sticky resin from trees and restraining them over ant mounds

The head bury: burying your enemy at low tide and allowing the tide to roll in and drown them.

The horse pull: tying each arm and leg to four separate horses and letting them go four separate ways.

But our Anglo Western criminal justice system of the 8th Amendment, bonds, free lawyers , probation, counselors and medical care in prison is much more savage.

Karma? The crystal ball it's fuzzy but an image is coming in wait .I see a dung beetle in your future.

Oldtradesman , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:15 am GMT • 15.8 hours ago
@Corvinus

I'm not the one who has made empty threats of violence on a opinion webzine against a woman (snicker snack). You said, "Nancy, you are definitely the type of Irish I would have no trouble killing, along with Joe Biden and John Brennan".

Why do you respond to "empty," traitor?

Either the threat was empty or it wasn't.

It certainly wasn't a personal threat.

Looks like a threat against a "type of Irish."

What I see is a cucked, traitorous e-activist misrepresenting a threat to pose as a chivalrous defender of e-womanhood.

TG , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:20 am GMT • 15.7 hours ago

This might not be directly relevant, but let me tell you a story.

The Island of Hispaniola was the site of the only known successful slave revolt in history. So far, so good. The victors where blacks and whites ('hispanics'). Well, that did not work out well. The whites ('hispanics') revolted and carved out their own nation, it's called the Dominican Republic. The blacks were left in their own nation, it's called Haiti. The Dominican Republic has problems, in particular a very high murder rate, but compared to most of the rest of the world, is not doing so bad. Haiti is an unspeakable cesspool of poverty and filth.

Of course, the Dominican Republic has a viciously effective border control policy preventing Haitian blacks from moving in. Why doesn't our corporate press complain about this anti-migrant xenophobia? Maybe rich Americans like the beaches in the Dominican Republic as they are.

Is that something that could – or should – happen in the Untied States? Probably not, circumstances are different. But still

al gore rhythms , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:23 am GMT • 15.7 hours ago
@The Wild Geese Howard

"Isn't there a large Japanese diaspora doing well in Brazil and Peru?"

Perhaps they are a self-selected sample of Japanese who are untypical enough of their culture that they wanted to forge a new path elsewhere.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:23 am GMT • 15.7 hours ago
@Oldtradesman

"Do you realize you are lower than the Negro chieftain who sold Troof's ancestor to white debils in exchange for pretty rocks and trinkets?"

Actually, African tribes received guns, rum, clothing, spices, and other assorted goods.

"You certainly know more than he did, traitor."

You mean I know more that you, friend.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:27 am GMT • 15.6 hours ago
@GeneralRipper

"I've told you numerous times, I will meet you IRL. Corvie."

And I told you to take care of the immediate threats in your own neck of the woods. Make sure to record it on social media.

"It took your self righteous Yankee retards four long bloody years and eight successive commanders to defeat the "Lazy Southrons"."

LOL, we got our act together with Grant and Sherman.

"All the while devastating the homes, towns and cities of the people in the South."

It was a just war.

"This next time around, you will get a taste of war and hate, Mr Corvinus."

More empty threats on your behalf.

Corvinus , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:31 am GMT • 15.6 hours ago
@Oldtradesman

"Why do you respond to "empty," traitor? Either the threat was empty or it wasn't. It certainly wasn't a personal threat."

Of course it was empty and personal! But that's what Internet armchair warriors do.

"What I see is a cucked, traitorous e-activist misrepresenting a threat to pose as a chivalrous defender of e-womanhood."

All you do is posture. I take comfort you lack the guile and guts to pull a St. Breivik.

Majority of One , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:37 am GMT • 15.5 hours ago
@christine

Christine: I too have experienced at least one native prior lifetime and my home is almost exactly halfway between two reservations. Friends. Currently I'm reading a book you would likely enjoy–perhaps thoroughly: "Listen to the Wind: Speak from the Heart" by Roger Thunderhands Gilbert, who is Metis and has been very close to both the Apache and Lakota cultures. Publisher is Divine Arts Media.

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Clay Alexander , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:40 am GMT • 15.4 hours ago

Always love the comments here, a great range from bright to not so bright to downright dim. But no matter who you are I'm sure you'll all agree we went from being Bozos on the bus to being Dr. Zeke's lab rats.

Rogue , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:44 am GMT • 15.3 hours ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

I approve of both names!

Truth , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:50 am GMT • 15.2 hours ago
@Oldtradesman

Yeah, maybe, but then if it wasn't for the slave trade, you'd be wearing nylon underwear right now

ooooh!

Truth , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:52 am GMT • 15.2 hours ago
@Corvinus

I remember that one, Flipper. Not one of your shining moments; although they are probably rare.

Art , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:53 am GMT • 15.2 hours ago
@Stonewall Jackson

TROLL!

Truth , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:54 am GMT • 15.2 hours ago
@Robert Dolan

So move to one.

Robert Dolan , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:11 am GMT • 14.9 hours ago
@James Scott t (which liberals are not) all of the stone age people currently living in Christendom . ride in cars, use computers and cellphones, travel in jets .have access to the white man's brilliant technology ..it's like we allowed them to jump into our time machine so they could fast forward into the future we created.

You could also add that we have the patent on high trust culture based on Christian values of industriousness, honesty, fairness, and decency ..though much of this is being wrecked by Jewish multiculturalism.

If not for the subversion of organized Jewry, whites would still have the respect of the stone age non-whites instead of their hatred and contempt.

Felix Krull , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:36 am GMT • 14.5 hours ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

However, IMO the author uses language which suggests disdain for black Americans (for example). If that is an expression of "racism", then it would be in the colloquially "bad" context.

Black Americans kill, rape and steal in huge disproportion to their numbers. Why should I not disdain that?

The Real World , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:54 am GMT • 14.2 hours ago
@Commentator Mike

You shouldn't make personal statements about people you don't know.

He put himself and his views out there, as any author does, and this is a Comment Board. I made my comments and observations. Are you new to venues like this? That's how they work

John Johnson , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:36 am GMT • 13.5 hours ago
@Muaddib onestly about their failures? They don't support it. In fact they despise free speech.

Social programs can be good for society. Think not just social security, but also healthcare for all.

Social programs can be good for society. But liberalism is not about finding good programs. It is about trying to denigrate and demoralize White people in an attempt at creating equality. Most liberals are White but they see themselves as the "good Whites" and all other Whites must be taken down. Liberals are nihilistic egalitarians. They will do anything for equality. They would sacrifice our children just for some fleeting feeling of equality that doesn't exist.

John Johnson , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:50 am GMT • 13.2 hours ago
@Muaddib ily life but in your mind all progress is held back by those other Whites . I saw that all the time. Urban Whites get "celebrate diversity" bumper stickers and then hang out with Whites 99% of the time.

More inventions came from WW2 than any other period and Whites on both sides during that time would think that today's urban egalitarian Whites are total morons.

P.S. your women aren't sexually attracted to you if that wasn't obvious by how they boss you guys around.

I lived around urban Whites for years. What a soulless and pathetic existence the typical urban White male lives. The homeless Blacks seem happier than you guys.

Wielgus , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:57 am GMT • 13.1 hours ago
@geokat62

The father of Jonathan Miller's mother wanted to emigrate to the USA but got off in Ireland instead, when it was under British rule. Miller gave an account of this during an interview. I can't recall whether his grandfather got off in Cork by mistake or whether the person who arranged his ticket cheated him and others by putting them on a boat to Ireland rather than New York. For Miller this was an amusing anecdote he told on TV.
At any rate the mother of Jonathan Miller was one of the relatively few Jews living in Ireland, although Miller himself was born in England.

christine , says: November 13, 2020 at 9:01 am GMT • 11.1 hours ago

'White people built the U.S.A it's ours'

This tell me exactly the nasty white supremacist that you must be and i pity you for your ignorance and severe lack of understanding about life.

Take the red pill next time.

Alden , says: November 13, 2020 at 9:08 am GMT • 10.9 hours ago
@christine

You've never been around any American Indians or their national autonomous homelands aka rezess have you? As a group, they're probably the most contented of all definable American race and ethnic groups. At least they're not endlessly bitching whining and kvetching like the rest of us.

You should spend a year driving around their rezess and talking to them. Try to fit in as a tourist or something. Don't be rude and just inform them you're some kind of social scientist studying their exotic oppressed abused soon to be genocided tribe. Don't insult them. Be polite. They are regular people just like the rest of us.

Alden , says: November 13, 2020 at 9:17 am GMT • 10.8 hours ago
@utu

We weren't Americans and America wasn't America when the Africans were brought over. We were English citizens subjects living in separate English colonies known as Massachusetts Connecticut Virginia Maryland etc.

Check Wikipedia ignoramus.

Alden , says: November 13, 2020 at 9:23 am GMT • 10.7 hours ago
@Stonewall Jackson

Taxes??? California just voted down proposition 19 which would have raised property taxes. No raises in property taxes.

christine , says: November 13, 2020 at 9:26 am GMT • 10.6 hours ago
@TKK

If only the vile white northern Euro invading scum had come with pipes of peace instead of guns and i find it poetic justice how guns and more guns and yet more guns are the scariest part of modern central North America.

May the spirits of those that suffered genocide and holocaust at the hands of gun wielding invading Northern Europeans be smiling from ear to ear at todays United Gun States of America.

Ugetit , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:14 am GMT • 9.8 hours ago
@Authenticjazzman

They are the nut-cases who stick themselves full of needles and pins , and dye their hair blue so as to present their deranged worldview for all to see.

You forgot the utterly worthless dye disfigurement known as tattoos. All this probably has roots related to the mutilation known as circumcision as well.

Indignant of Maidstone , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:21 am GMT • 9.7 hours ago
@tomo

@tomo
Talk to them about Louis Farrakhan. He has the Nation of Islam ( https://www.noi.org/ ] eating out of his hand. The videos are out there.

Louis names the Jew without disaster resulting. Tell them about The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews, a splendid book, available from Amazon – at a price or direct from the
https://www.noi.org/final-call-news/

Ugetit , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:36 am GMT • 9.5 hours ago
@Peter Frost e US along with the breakdown of the family, loss of the work ethic, a rampant sneering at honesty, and almost total lack of basic civility. One of my sisters attributes a lot of that to the effects of casting infants into daycare where it's "dog eat dog" from the beginning and which I believe is reinforced by years of exposure to the sinecure and benny seeking bureaucrats in the baby sitting and brainwashing institutions known as schools.

We have ourselves to blame for our choices both as individuals and as a society and we can whine all we want about blacks and others, but in the end we're paying for our worship and pursuit of "cool," or self absorption, or whatever.

animalogic , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:50 am GMT • 9.2 hours ago
@Negrolphin Pool

No, I agree -- a purely "racial" response should not be tried. It will lead to failure (which is not to say that things like race, culture, values, beliefs etc are not important)

noname27 , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 10:50 am GMT • 9.2 hours ago
@Montefrío

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zqv7hyc/revision/2

I suggest you also do a search on the infamous Jew, Aaron Lopez, and work out why he chose a Spanish name to hide behind rather than an Anglo-Saxon name.

Supply and Demand , says: November 13, 2020 at 10:53 am GMT • 9.2 hours ago
@Authenticjazzman

The large majority of TrumpBoomers are screaming at the sky right now with this fraud cope, because it is inconceivable that a wave of brown, angry youth and affluent whites like myself have eclipsed them as a voting bloc. The white working class has been melting down worse than the 2016 SJW trannies for a week now.

christine , says: November 13, 2020 at 11:50 am GMT • 8.2 hours ago

Yes of course i would be polite and come in peace and i would make sure not to point a rifle or pistol at them and start shooting them and then start raping their women and children and i wouldn't slaughter any livestock that they may have to try and starve them because what decent white Northern European would do that in central North America anyway?.

If i came in peace and harmony like this they would naturally be far more likely to respond in kind and share with me what they may know about nature/god, just like what their wonderful ancestors learnt about from their use of plant medicines/entheogens/sacraments like the Peyote cactus for example that was used by the Apache Comanche and Kiowa tribes but if i was pure evil and slaughtered them then of course i wouldn't get to learn from their wisdom and i would deserve to remain in complete darkness (spiritually speaking) just like most everyone alive is in the U.S today.

Like i said upthread.

Don't fuck with the natives!.

.

geokat62 , says: November 13, 2020 at 11:53 am GMT • 8.2 hours ago
@Wielgus

I got tripped up by this

His daughter, Miller's father, became a well-known novelist in Ireland.

Who is the subject in this sentence? Was it someone's daughter or Miller's father who became a well-known novelist in Ireland? The structure of your sentence makes it unclear.

Ultrafart the Brave , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 12:48 pm GMT • 7.3 hours ago
@Felix Krull who have given their support to Trump.

As I said originally, that doesn't automatically make the author a "racist" in the "bad" sense, but the suggestion is implicitly there for anyone who wants to make it.

Maybe the author is being emphatically practical in his analysis. FWIW in the past Australian experience, cohesive immigrant populations have taken at least a couple of generations to fully naturalise in Australian society. And there does seem to be a lot of cultural clashing going on in the USA. So maybe a coarse exclusionary approach to reclaiming power for the American people is the shortest path to a solution (albeit with potential for collateral damage).

Or maybe one has to read between the lines to get the full sense of what the author is trying to say.

Robjil , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:16 pm GMT • 6.8 hours ago
@christine igners; and this spirit of wear, principle of any cowardice, is so natural in their hearts, that it is the continual object of the figures that they employ in the species of eloquence which is proper for them. Their glory is to put at fire and blood the small villages they can seize. They cut the throat of the old men and the children; they hold only the girls nubiles; they assassinate their Masters when they are slaves; they can never forgive when they are victorious: they are enemy of the human mankind. No courtesy, no science, no art improved in any time, in this atrocious nation. -- Voltaire, Essai sur les mœurs (1756) Tome 2, page 83
Plato's Dream , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:36 pm GMT • 6.5 hours ago

Was it EVER possible to pronounce Mitt Romney's and John McCain's names without gagging? News to me

Also I disagree with the main premise that can be expressed in the ironic Russian saying: "They are fucking us, and yet we are just getting stronger". Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Success begets success, failure begets failure. With the machinery of state in the DemocRATs' hands, will they really allow their enemies to take back the levers of power? Last time was a fluke because Hurricane Donald had caught them by surprise.

noname27 , says: Website November 13, 2020 at 1:40 pm GMT • 6.4 hours ago
@Ultrafart the Brave

Like you, your principles are part of the problem.

Wielgus , says: November 13, 2020 at 1:57 pm GMT • 6.1 hours ago
@geokat62

Miller's mother , sorry, was a well-known novelist in Ireland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Miller_(author)

glib , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:18 pm GMT • 5.8 hours ago
@Rogue ck of critique of their own past, lack of any sort of conciliatory moves towards past victims, dooms them.

And this when the entire world rejects globohomo (and usury) with disgust. They have all sorts of potential allies a home and abroad, and do not use them. Having lived in the Detroit area for decades, for example, I can tell you that local Muslims are ready-made allies. They are hardly the only ones. Count any working Latino and all people of Asian descent in this group, as well as all people of Eastern European descent. They even have allies among working blacks for christ sake. You are in the fight of your lives, and you don't even think about allies.

Jim Bob Lassiter , says: November 13, 2020 at 2:41 pm GMT • 5.4 hours ago
@Montefrío

I would say productive non-executive suite Whites are the new slaves in the Waspy-Jewy Anglo world. But Brazil isn't that far behind either with all of its Sherwin-Williams color sample shade cards being used in its own affirmative action programs.

geokat62 , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:07 pm GMT • 5.0 hours ago annamaria , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:32 pm GMT • 4.5 hours ago
@christine nominy of the Wars for Israel?

Unlike the profitable fables of holobiz, the Jewish rabid hatred towards Palestinians and the destruction of Palestinian lives is true. Thievery, sadism, torture of teenagers in Israeli prisons, desecration of Palestinian cemeteries, the intentional handicapping of Palestinian children Are you ready to talk about the Jeiwsh State's crimes against humanity, committed in the context of international law? (The US and Israel 'are joined at the hip' according to US Congresspeople). If not, then your 'righteous' diatribes are cheap.

And don't forget to check the amazing results of the Obama/Clinton's color revlution in Ukraine.

Trinity , says: November 13, 2020 at 3:39 pm GMT • 4.4 hours ago
@Truth irst son of a bitch who was foolish enough to bring over the African for cheap labor ( yes, the African did receive a wage in food, shelter and medical care), these fools using Mexicans for dirt cheap labor are ruining this nation because of greed and the love of money. That poor beaner busting his ass for 12 bucks an hour? Don't worry about him folks, he's living large because he's more than likely being paid cash or he's gaming the system and receiving all kinds of freebies along with a regular paycheck. I drive by a chicken processing plant daily that employs nothing but our friends from south of the border and I see some damn fine trucks and other nice looking vehicles.
Genrick Yagoda , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:17 pm GMT • 3.8 hours ago
@Supply and Demand

The white working class has been melting down worse than the 2016 SJW trannies for a week now.

Is that right? So why were there no massive chimpouts and looting? Why was it not necessary to board up the stores, as it would have been had not the ZOG stolen the election?

Thomasina , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:29 pm GMT • 3.6 hours ago
@anonymous

Stupidly, I think Trump tried to win over the corporate elite, Big Tech, Big Ag, etc.. Maybe bad advice from his son-in-law? Didn't listen to his intuition? Who knows.

If he is reelected, he will not make the same mistake twice. I think they know this too.

Genrick Yagoda , says: November 13, 2020 at 4:30 pm GMT • 3.6 hours ago
@christine ringing a force of about five or six to one against his enemy; kills helpless women and little children, and massacres th e men in their beds; and then brags about it as long as he lives, and his son and his grandson and great-grandson after him glorify it among the "heroic deeds of their ancestors."

https://twain.lib.virginia.edu/projects/rissetto/redman.html

If you came in peace, do you think the Stone Age Siberians would have also shared their vast knowledge about the Wheel? Or metal smelting? Or writing and math?

Or even the toothbrush? Trinity , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:09 pm GMT • 2.9 hours ago

People like (((Christine))) always bring up atrocities committed against Indians and they make some valid points, HOWEVER, as we saw, (((Christine))) had nothing to say about Whites being butchered by racist Black homicidal maniacs in South Africa nor did she address the Holodomor. This leads me to believe that (((Christine))) the self proclaimed "Irish" lass is more than likely just a (((troll.)))

And of course, people like (((Christine))) don't talk about so-called Jews stealing the Palestinians land and brutalizing Palestinians, instead they focus on ANCIENT HISTORY. And these people will never talk about Black guys executing little white boys or Black guys snatching a little white boy from his white mother and throwing the kid off a balcony. Or how about when a black woman kidnapped a white boy in Texas and burned him to death with a blowtorch. Oh, yeah, lets focus on ancient history, which unless you lived back then no one really knows what the damn truth was, we know we certainly can't rely on (((historians))) or mainstream (((history books.))) Unless things change, 100 years from now, people will be reading about how 3 Black women sent America to the moon.

Obvious LIES that will be told or have been told

6 million Jews were gassed in concentration camps during WWII

Germany started WWII

the official 9-11 narrative

Osama Bin Laden was killed * that dude probably was dead years before he was claimed to have been killed, the guy was in poor health.

James Earl Ray did not kill MLK * the dude said so on his death bed, why would you still keep holding on to the same story if you were going to die anyhow?

And when it comes to Presidential elections.

JFK didn't beat Nixon
Dubya didn't beat Gore
And Joe Biden sure as hell didn't beat Trump, hell I would admit that if I hated Trump's guts. Don't like Gore, voted for that sorry sack of shit, Dubya, but no way in hell, Gore lost.

Some more code words we can start using ((( ))) for are (((SJW))) or (((military industrial complex.)))

Felix Krull , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:36 pm GMT • 2.5 hours ago
@Ultrafart the Brave people too, patriotic or otherwise. White nationalism is a political stance, of course it will exclude people who are not white nationalists, duh!

Indeed, one bad thing leads to another. Once the dynamics are set in train, it will take generations to unravel (if ever).

What "bad thing" lead to blacks people committing heinous amounts of murder, robbery and rape? Slavery? Colonialism? Affirmative Action? Must be something whites did, right?

As I said originally, that doesn't automatically make the author a "racist" in the "bad" sense.

You have not explained what's bad about racism. And what are those quotation marks for?

Truth , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:41 pm GMT • 2.4 hours ago
@Alden

You've never been around any American Indians or their national autonomous homelands aka rezess have you? As a group, they're probably the most contented of all definable American race and ethnic groups. At least they're not endlessly bitching whining and kvetching like the rest of us.

Aldey, having lived in the most Indian state in America for the last 17 years, I can assure you that that is patently ridiculous.

Ugetit , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:41 pm GMT • 2.4 hours ago
@Genrick Yagoda

Some things never change. As Mark Twain wrote in his Essay about The Noble Red Man;

He is ignoble–base and treacherous, and hateful in every way. Not even imminent death can startle him into a spasm of virtue .

With that Twain appears slightly ahead of his time. He could have just as accurately been describing other "Reds," such as the Bolsheviks and their supporters most of whom could have taught the Indians a thing or two about terror and torture especially the mass varieties.

Truth , says: November 13, 2020 at 5:43 pm GMT • 2.4 hours ago
@Trinity

I drive by a chicken processing plant daily that employs nothing but our friends from south of the border and I see some damn fine trucks and other nice looking vehicles.

They're probably hiring, Old Sport.

Supply and Demand , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:12 pm GMT • 1.9 hours ago
@Genrick Yagoda

Whites are storming ballot counting centers instead of looting their own businesses. Whites routinely chimp out, they just pick different targets. Look at the devastation around Hockey arenas when teams win the Stanley Cup.

As far as the election being stolen, well, you sound like a crazed conspiracy nutter.

Trinity , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:27 pm GMT • 1.6 hours ago
@Truth

They are ALWAYS hiring, breh. Maybe you can tell some of da homies. But I doubt da homies could cut the mustard. I worked with tons of Mexicans and El Salvadorans and I can tell you from experience they really look down on lazy negroes. My gawd, some of the things I heard these Brown folks say about Black folks had me blushing crimson. I went from Donald Trump orange to the color of my favorite soda, cherry red. Cue: You Can't Always Get What You Want by Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stoooooooooones.

Robjil , says: November 13, 2020 at 6:43 pm GMT • 1.4 hours ago

US Presidents are figure heads. Jared Kushner or Douglas Emhoff are the real deal in our Zogacracy.

https://www.jta.org/2020/11/07/politics/iran-israel-anti-semitism-and-more-what-to-watch-in-joe-bidens-presidency

The Second Guy: Kamala Harris' husband, Douglas Emhoff, is Jewish; he will not only be the "second gentleman" (caveat: No one has settled on a term for the job), he will be the first Jewish second spouse. Emhoff has been vocal about his Jewish identity, and it will be interesting to see how that plays out in a role that has been used to advance education initiatives.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/doug-emhoff-job-kamala-harris-white-house-biden-administratio-b1720674.html

Kamala Harris's husband has quit his law firm job for a White House role despite claiming he wouldn't go into politics.

Doug Emhoff will leave DLA Piper, where is a partner, by inauguration day on 20 January, according to the Associated Press.

Mr Emhoff took a leave of absence from the firm in August when vice president-elect Harris ran on Joe Biden's ticket.

The future second man is reportedly working with Mr Biden's transition team to establish a role for him in the administration.

Majority of One , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:11 pm GMT • 54 minutes ago
@Alden lcohol.

Yet, there do remain groupings of well-rooted people who are able to cope with a clinically insane "white" culture which surrounds them physically and throughout most electronic mediums. Their struggle is huge, yet they persist in reconnecting with traditional tribal values, with powwows, drumming fests and even -- gradually -- re-learning their indigenous languages.

There are still waaaay too many European-descended people in my area who retain an ignorant , discriminatory and even prejudicial attitude towards these, our neighbors and in some cases, potential teachers. But those who reach out do tend to reach those who also reach out. So hope remains.

Majority of One , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:14 pm GMT • 51 minutes ago
@Genrick Yagoda

HATER -- perhaps not without some viable personal reason/s, but nevertheless one incapable of discriminating between individuals and devolved into rank prejudice.

Authenticjazzman , says: November 13, 2020 at 7:25 pm GMT • 40 minutes ago
@aleksander

Brilliant!!! Absolutely brilliant.

I spent time on the other side of the wall early seventies, and I will never forget the dead eyes of the oppressed citizenry and the morgue-like atmosphere of the grey cities, and these lunatic Democrats are now pushing to create such a scenario in the US

AJM

DT 2020

[Nov 13, 2020] On Tucker Carlson's show about six weeks ago, Tucker had on guest Darren Beattie to describe the specific type of color revolution that the Democrat Party appeared to be planning to proceed ahead with to usurp this election:

Nov 13, 2020 | www.unz.com

Pure Coincidence , says: November 9, 2020 at 5:52 pm GMT • 3.6 days ago

@Brett Redmayne-Titley

Excellent article and explanation of procedure, Mr. Redmayne-Titley. On Tucker Carlson's show about six weeks ago, Tucker had on guest Darren Beattie to describe the specific type of color revolution that the Democrat Party appeared to be planning to proceed ahead with to usurp this election:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/cUxilJznKyY?feature=oembed

Tucker's show tonight will be as clear as could be as to which Tucker he is going to be selling to his huge audience: independent journalist or Fox News/DS apparatchik. I will be watching and hope that he will continue to be the voice of much of the people, though his letting up on the Hunter Biden story was troubling to say the least.

ThisIsAnon153Replying , says: November 9, 2020 at 5:42 pm GMT • 3.6 days ago
@TRM

Even with Pennsylvania and Georgia, the 2 most likely to flip imo, trump would still lose, unless he miraculously flips Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, or Michigan.

The fix was in no doubt and trump won all those states fairly, but its a tall order and I'm skeptical that trump can pull it off.

TRM , says: November 9, 2020 at 11:11 pm GMT • 3.3 days ago
@ThisIsAnon153Replying

Biden is at 290. Penn is 20. Any loss of any state after Penn and Biden loses. I don't see Biden holding all 4.

Orca , says: November 9, 2020 at 6:00 pm GMT • 3.6 days ago

The Media is a serious enemy of The United States. This is treason by no other definition, it goes beyond free speech.

Curmudgeon , says: November 9, 2020 at 6:09 pm GMT • 3.6 days ago
@shylockcracy

Thanks to the Trumpet, the CIA/FBI/NSA, etc., have now been able to clearly identidy the sections of the populace that feel their pure whiteness is being victimised,

Were you in a coma for a number of years? For 20 years, starting with William Binney through Edward Snowdon and Dave Montgomery, there have been warnings that the alphabet agencies have been illegally spying the US citizens. Montgomery pointed out they spied on Trump before he became a candidate.
The Trumpian corporate party's biggest sin was trying to get in on the Republocrat – Demican Uni-party corporate party action.
Never gonna happen.

Cyrano , says: November 9, 2020 at 8:46 pm GMT • 3.4 days ago
@Tyler Durden

I believe that US are truthful when they talk about "free" elections. Theoretically, the only way you can get something "free" in life is – if you steal it, or if somebody gives you something as a gift. This "election" has fulfilled both of these 2 criteria. First the deep state stole the election from Trump and then they presented it as a gift to Biden. So it's all good. It was a free election for Biden, Trump got robbed – but hey, you can't please everybody.

anon [383] Disclaimer , says: November 9, 2020 at 11:41 pm GMT • 3.3 days ago

Karma's a biatch. All those color revolutions in Ukraine, Venezuela, Iran, Hong Kong, propped up in one way or another by Mike Pompeo when he was head of CIA continuing into Secretary of State, is now coming back to haunt Trump. Good job appointing that fat fuck.

If Trump loses, it would be his own doing in some ways. He has failed to roll back legal immigration esp. H1B/OPT until a month before the election, and spent most of his time catering to the Zionist filth with all the nauseating sycophantic overt pandering to Israel and the Wall Street Jews. Wormtongue's pandering to the blacks by letting all the drug dealers out of jail is backfiring big time too. 92% of blacks still voted for Biden so fuck you Kushner.

If Trump somehow survives this and actually comes back to win, I hope he learned from his mistake in the first term. Instead of spending all 4 years pandering to Jews and blacks who didn't vote for him, spend his time taking care of those who did vote for him, his white voting base, and we want an end to H1B, OPT, EB5, L1, illegal immigration. No more green cards for the next 40 years! Begin mass deportation. Most importantly, fire Pompeo and Javanka!

Skeptikal , says: November 10, 2020 at 12:15 am GMT • 3.3 days ago

Many thanks, Mr. Redmayne, for this overview-cum-dissection of the recount scenarios.

That all of these counting-stopping orders took place in swing states defies credulity.
Surely poll workers were being paid to continue counting throughout the night. Not to go home and catch 40 winks. Lord knows we have plenty of night-time workers in this 24/7 country.

It is ironic that in the context of the USA's overseas military disasters, the common advice when the home team is obviously getting pounded has been "Just declare yourself the winner" and get the hell out.

Seems like the Dems are using this playbook and hoping they can create a n