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Solaris Enterprize Strategy Page
Instead of introduction I recommend to read the relevant part
(Sun
under the Linux siege ) of the chapter 4
of the Open source Pioneers book that
discusses the Solaris relationship with Linux (and thus IBM) that was the
counterpoint of the last five years or so.
Currently the key issue for Sun is the level of interoperability
with Microsoft. The key to this is their
2004 agreement:
SAN FRANCISCO, CA, April 2, 2004 — Microsoft
Corporation (NASDAQ: MSFT) and Sun Microsystems, Inc. (NASDAQ: SUNW) today
announced that they have entered into a broad technology collaboration
arrangement to enable their products to work better together and to settle
all pending litigation between the two companies. The companies have also
entered into agreements on patents and other issues.
Unless Sun brass take serious steps in this direction, their
competitive position is pretty slippery. Of course low power consumption
of T1 and good transactional benchmarks result is an additional plus.
Dr. Nikolai Bezroukov
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Some amount of grammar and spelling errors should be
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as it develops like a living tree...
Please try to use Google, Open directory,
etc. to find a replacement link (see
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[June 9, 2006]
Visiting Sun’s CEO
Jonathan
Schwartz, CEO of Sun Microsystems, just dropped
me off at the lobby of building 10. So, I'm sitting
on the floor near a power outlet and am blogging my
experiences.
What an enjoyable guy! We walked across the
street to a Togos sandwich shop. Little-known
trivia, Togos was started by a couple of San Jose
State University students. I have lots of great
memories of eating in Togos over the years (there
was one across the street from our high school — I
graduated in 1983).
Anyway, at one point we were having such an
engaged conversation I had to remind myself that he
runs a company with 37,000 employees and billions in
revenues. We instantly were talking like long-lost
friends.
There was a serious tone to our lunch, though, we
talked a lot about the business difficulties facing
Sun Microsystems. They are about to layoff thousands
of people.
One thing I look for in leaders, though, is
willingness to take the worst of times in stride
with a clear eye on what comes next. Jonathan
exceeded all my ideas of what a leader should do.
And he has great pride in Sun, too, and says that
the business is starting to turn around.
For one, Sun is going to encourage all the laid
off workers to continue to blog — on Sun's dime.
Now, I can imagine the kind of vitriol and crud
that'll get posted by workers who've just lost their
jobs. That takes real corporate bravery and my hat
is off to him. One good thing about this? It'll make
it possible for new employers to get in touch with
laid off workers. There's a lot of companies that
are hungry for workers right now.
At one point I asked him about the Business Week
cover I saw (Marissa Mayer at Google was staring at
both of us, being crowned by BusinessWeek as queen
of innovators) and said "what innovations is Sun
doing?" Later I asked him if there's something that
Sun and Microsoft could innovate together on?
He told me about some of the innovations that Sun
has been working on in the past few years. He's in
the midst of a large-scale corporate upheaval and
rebuilding.
One of the things he's proudest of is Sun's
engineers found a way to dramatically lower the
power consumption of their servers. How did they do
that? By getting rid of things that Web servers
don't need — and by slowing down the chip which
didn't hurt Web performance, since most of what Web
sites need is high throughput, not high turnaround
time (he told me that I really care if 1,000 people
can all download my blog at the same time, not that
any one of those getting it a microsecond faster).
He told me that they found that customers of the
size of Ebay weren't using much floating point
performance on its datacenters. So they removed that
functionality, and other stuff. That saves power.
Good for the environment, good for his customer's
bottom lines, and good for Sun too.
He's deeply concerned about the amount of power
that Internet sites are using. He says that for many
Internet companies it's already one of their top
three costs. Reduce power and heat on servers and
you can save companies like Google or Ebay or, even,
WordPress, a lot of money.
How could Microsoft and Sun innovate together?
That's a tough one cause our businesses are aimed at
different places at the moment, but we brainstormed
a few places and I'm sure we'll get something going
offline. The fact that we were even talking about
working together demonstrates that it's a new world
and that the only constant in the business world is
change.
He's most passionate about the growth of content
around the world. Talked about how a friend of his
showed him the popularity of Indian Cricket games
world-wide, something that hasn't caught on here in
Silicon Valley, but has up to a billion people
interested around the world. That kind of content
will be delivered over the Internet, which means
more business opportunities for Sun. He sees the
effect that blogs, Wikis, MySpace, podcasting, and
video and videoblogging are having on the growth of
the Internet too and is looking for ways that Sun
could help those networks grow and thrive.
Why invite me over for lunch? Cause he is seeing
the deep effect that blogging is having on his
company (it's helping recruitment at Sun too, even
in the face of layoffs) and wanted to meet me and
get to know me a little better. That's very
flattering, but I too was trying to learn something
about Sun that hadn't been reported already.
One thing I found out? That he's a staunch
proponent of working at home. At Sun they found that
people who work at home are far less likely to leave
Sun than employees that have to come into the
office. He sees that as a competitive advantage and
doesn't understand why some companies force their
employees to come into the office.
He also went into great detail with me about why
Sun is in the position of having to lay people off.
I found that to be fascinating behavior on the
behalf of a CEO meeting with an employee of one of
his fiercest competitors. He's bummed out by having
to lay people off which seems trite to say when you
talk about a CEO that isn't seeing his own job
threatened, but he told me he grew up in a poor
family and wants to put Sun into a position so it
can hire back all those workers.
He won me over. I've met a few CEOs over the
years and a lot of them just want to tell me their
point of view. Jonathan was noticeably different: he
asked ME questions about how I looked at the world.
He was curious, personable, someone I could see
drinking a lot of beer with and still remaining
friends with. And that's my point of view from the
floor of Sun Microsystems' corporate headquarters.
Next time Jonathan, you gotta come up to
Microsoft and I'll buy lunch and let's take the
relationship further.
I was with a big potential customer yesterday - in
the Fortune 100. After a day of briefings from our technical folks, I
joined the meeting to see how we were doing. I asked him and his team
how much of what they'd seen was new to them.
He said, "about 70% was a complete surprise."
Ouch. That's not good.
To test, I asked, "before today, did you know that Solaris was open
source, or ran on Dell, HP and IBM hardware, not just Sun's?" "Nope."
And like I said, this was a Fortune 100 opportunity.
Despite the ample advice I receive, getting through the din,
especially in the world of IT, doesn't happen with a superbowl ad (can
you remember a single one?), or buying every billboard in every town, or
every ad word on-line. We know, we measure their effectiveness.
We know the most valued information travels by word of mouth. Through
blogs, on-line reviews, or other on-line conversations. Or "kneecap to
kneecap," as we sit across the table from customers in our briefing
centers. And frankly, the most valuable information about Sun doesn't
come from Sun, it comes from other customers.
So how do you get the word out if you don't have a $500M ad budget?
To me, it's not so much about getting the word out, as letting the eyes
and ears in. You can tell I'm a big fan of transparency - that's why I
write a blog (with comments on, and yes, I read every one, as do a host
of others at Sun). It's why I
encourage others to drive the conversation in the market, as well.
Transparency's at least a part of the solution. If not an outright
competitive weapon.
A very wise man once said, "Sunlight
is the best disinfectant" - and in my view, exposing our internals
to the outside world also helps us respond to problems more rapidly.
True, we have to expose the
occasional unhappy customer (I hear this one, in particular,
recently became happy), but we expose them to people who can help, too -
from within Sun, or within the
community. We can't solve problems we don't know about. Like the
good justice said, sunlight's a good disinfectant.
Which is why you'll see something very interesting next week start to
appear on Sun's web pages and throughout our
on-line store. You'll start to see product reviews
written by users.
You'll see user defined ratings, right on our products. Just like book
or product reviews at Amazon. We're starting with just a few products,
but it'll ultimately extend all the way up to our highest end enterprise
offerings.
What's the risk? That we're exposing ourselves to criticism? That we
may have on display the fact that one product or another isn't perfect?
(That our competitors may try to rate all our products?)
Nope.
The far bigger risk is that we'd meet another customer surprised by
what we had to offer. Unaware that our systems were 5 times as energy
efficient as our competitors. That Solaris was free, open source, and
available on Dell or HP. Or that Thumper was about to reset the
economics of the storage industry.
And to my mind, sunlight's not just the best disinfectant.
It's the best informant, too.
From a voice you'll trust more than ours - your own.
Scott McNealy's decision to cede his Sun Microsystems CEO
title to his protégée, Jonathan Schwartz, last week after 22
years at the helm has grabbed most of the computer
industry's interest around the storied company. When pressed
on how his tenure would differ from McNealy's, Schwartz
downplayed any shift in strategy. "The network is the
computer," then and now, he said on a conference call with
reporters.
But an overlooked artifact of the CEO switch is
Schwartz's order for a top-to-bottom engineering review of
Sun's technology projects over the next three months, headed
by Greg Papadopoulos, who took on the new title of executive
VP of research and development at Sun last week. When I
talked to Papadopoulos late last week, he said no Sun
engineer will escape his scrutiny. Could there be more
changes in the offing than appeared at first glance?
Sun
made its change at the top after losing $217 million
during its third quarter ended March 26, though revenues
increased 21% to $3.2 billion, largely on sales of storage
and x86 servers. According to Schwartz, Sun's big brands--Sparc,
Solaris, Java, and Sun Fire servers running Advanced Micro
Devices chips--"have yet to really bear fruit and deliver
the value they ultimately can." It's Papadopoulos' job to
unlock that value.
Sun spends about $2 billion annually on research and
development, pouring a greater percentage of revenue into
R&D (16.5% in Q3) than many of its competitors. But the
budget needs some fixing, shifting funds from engineering
projects that emphasize the performance of single computers
running alone to technology that can boost the performance
of a whole network of systems--increasingly the way IT
managers run their business apps. "As we go through and look
at the R&D, we say, 'Is this old school or new school?' "
says Papadopoulos. "You can't do that informally." Designing
systems meant to operate in clusters and elevating the
importance of software delivered as a Web service rather
than shipped in a box are part of the plan. The ability to
do so will define "what it really means to be a computer
company" in the next few years, he says.
There are signs Sun is on the right track. The company
recently delivered its new UltraSparc T1 "Niagara"
processor, which gains performance through packaging
hardware on a single chip that can run 32 simultaneous
application threads, each in its own Java virtual machine.
Those could be search engine requests, Oracle transactions,
or other popular workloads. And Niagara chips run on about
the same amount of electricity as a household light
bulb--cooler than Intel or AMD parts in tests. Sun has been
trying to sell T1-based servers to Google, and though no
deal has been reached yet, "there's no doubt this stuff is
meshed well with the stuff they run," Papadopoulos says. Sun
also just "taped out" Niagara 2, or sent its final design in
for manufacturing. That chip could ship some time next year.
Earlier this week,
Sun said it would deliver a 128-bit file system for Solaris
in June, creating a computing runway for the next 10 years.
Sparc and Solaris are still vibrant brands, and Sun's
Sparc business actually grew during Q3, according to
Papadopoulos. "This stuff has differentiated value in the
market," he says. Still, customers aren't buying in the
numbers they once were--Sun's share of the $51.7 billion
worldwide server market last year slipped again to less than
10%, its fifth straight year of decline, according to market
research company Gartner.
To get Sun's R&D more in line with customers' desires,
Papadopoulos figures he'll review some 500 projects under
way at Sun. "There are 9,000 engineers at the company, and
you get asked the question, 'What are they all doing?' " he
says. Along the way, he'll identify opportunities for cuts.
As for whether projects get axed or management uses a
lighter hand to redistribute funding among projects, "that's
Jonathan's call," says Papadopoulos.
Schwartz's public stance so far has been to execute on
the plans he and McNealy have already put in place. But look
a little closer and it appears Sun is actually tinkering
with its formula to try to cure what ails it.
Perhaps the changing of the guard at Sun Microsystems Inc.
was no shock to some. Now pundits can dish over whether or not
it will be the start of a new era at Sun – and one that might
mean more collaboration with Microsoft.
The company said earlier this week that CEO Scott McNealy was
stepping aside so chief operating officer Jonathan Schwartz
could take the reigns. Not everyone thinks the new CEO will
bring big changes. Gordon Haff, a senior analyst at Illuminata
Inc., Nashua, N.H., said he doubted the change was much more
than Schwartz taking over a role he had already started and fine
tuned even while McNealy was in control.
Major moves, including the adoption of x86 architecture, the
move to AMD's Opteron processor on low-end hardware and the open
sourcing of the Solaris operating system, all bore the mark of
Schwartz, Haff said.
And more importantly Schwartz's background, based in
software, is one that could see some interesting collaboration
in the future -- mainly with Microsoft. Relations between Sun
and Microsoft have improved in the past few years -- the "sword
has been sheathed," Haff said – and have included healthy doses
of interoperability work between the two companies.
The interoperability reflects what the end users have been
demanding, said Tony Iams, a senior analyst with Rye Brook,
N.Y.-based IDEAS International Inc., and now the idea of
pre-installing Windows Server onto Sun boxes is not unthinkable.
"Now that Sun is with x86, to realistically compete in that
market you have to have some level of support for Windows," Iams
said. "If Apple [Computer] can come in and support Windows, then
it makes even more sense for Sun to do so too."
Broad support for Windows would also help Sun stem the flow
of lost customers who have defected from Solaris to Linux thanks
to free migration programs offered by IBM and Hewlett Packard,
said Charles King, founder of Hayward, Calif.-based Pund-IT
Research.
However, King said that Sun has made inroads with x86 in the
interim with an aggressive campaign to present its Galaxy
servers, based on AMD's Opteron processor. And while not as
pronounced as the gains in the hardware business, Sun has also
seen up ticks in popularity with ISVs thanks to its efforts into
open source software.
"Typically systems vendors like Sun don't make a huge amount
of money selling open source software, but they do manage to
make a healthy profit through alliances with the ISVs and by
selling ancillary products to support the open source ISV
applications," King said.
As for Java, the pundits said they believed Sun will continue
to be careful about retaining control and managing Java for the
time being. Schwartz has publicly said he has considered options
regarding Java, but to date the company has been reluctant to
open source the technology.
A personal view of Sun Microsystems •
DISCUSSION
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Microsystems' server
future in his hands.
As executive vice
president of the Network Systems Group, one of two
server groups at the company, he leads Sun's belated but
now vital push to sell servers using x86 processors.
Only a small fraction of Sun's revenue comes from x86
servers, but the overall market has been growing
consistently for years--and Sun craves revenue growth.
Sun's mainstay business, servers using the company's own
UltraSparc processors, has been hit hard by IBM's
charge into the market and the arrival of Linux. Now x86
servers are key to Sun's attempt to outflank its rivals.
Sun has made some gains, ranking sixth in the x86 server
market. The goal is to be No. 4 by the end of this year.
Sun's x86 push began in 2002
with undistinguished Intel-based machines running the
Linux operating system. It picked up some steam in 2004
when Sun released its first
servers based on Advanced Micro Devices' Opteron.
But the systems were designed outside of Sun and lacked
certain features, such as redundant power supplies, that
were demanded by businesses. In October, Sun began
selling its own Opteron servers designs, code named
Galaxy and designed by Sun co-founder
Andy Bechtolsheim.
I'm not a basher. I may
talk like a wild man, but inside the team we take a
different approach.
Fowler, 45, is a somewhat
unlikely pick for a hardware executive. His background
is in software, including two years as
Sun's software chief technology
officer. When Sun's software chief,
Jonathan Schwartz, was elevated to president in
2004, he
named Fowler to the x86 server post.
Fowler discussed a range
of subjects with CNET News.com, including his belief
that Opteron will lead Xeon for years.
Q: How is 2006
going to be different than last year for Sun?
Fowler: I won't be explaining AMD anymore. We spent a
lot of energy in 2005 explaining what it was about. In
the enterprise part of the customer base, they've gotten
that message. The second thing I won't be doing is
answering the question, "You guys are in the x86
business?" Or, "Are you serious?" Customers have gotten
their hands around the idea that this is something we're
really doing.
But only a few
months ago (Sun President) Jonathan Schwartz and others
were saying customers still didn't know about your x86
servers.
Fowler: The Galaxy launch was huge. We measure
penetration into customer accounts and awareness
factors. We're getting there. In SMB (small and medium
businesses), in particular, we're not well known. That's
part of a longer-term thing to work on. But in core
Fortune 200 we're known.
We'll
have bunch of new products in 2006.
The first Galaxy products were the
beginning of the family. There is a
set of common architectural elements
you'll see carry over into more
rack-mount products and blades.
Your designs use
higher speed-grade Opteron
processors (models that run faster
but consume 120 watts compared to 95
watts for standard Opterons). Do you
expect to stay one speed-grade ahead
of the pack?
Fowler: Absolutely. AMD will
continue to produce some kind of
higher speed-grade. We didn't do it
just to get one speed-grade ahead in
one generation. In some
applications, adding speed-grades
makes a lot of difference. If
you have a very expensive software
license, having an additional
speed-grade makes you that much more
effective in software.
On
classic Web services workload,
Niagara will spank any Opteron.
Are you going to launch the
eight-processor system and the blade
system separately?
Fowler: We're still trying to figure
out what are the best ways to launch
the products.
High-end x86 servers
are rare. Do you have to educate
customers that eight-socket big-iron
servers are worth buying?
Fowler: Absolutely. People have to
go a life cycle in purchasing.
Initially, it'll be by people in
technical computing and people who
are classic early adopters building
Web services infrastructure as
opposed to people doing (enterprise
resource planning) and (decision
support systems). People aren't
going to get up in the morning and
say "I'm going to run my Oracle
database on an eight-socket system."
You say you monitor
your customers. What fraction are
using Galaxy?
Fowler: I don't have a handle on
that. The fraction is really small
compared to total number of
enterprise customers, which is in
the thousands.
What's the
Solaris/Linux mix, and what's the
goal for 2006?
Fowler: The attach rate of Solaris
is very difficult to get to the
bottom of. Last year, we moved to
preinstalled Solaris 10 on all my
machines. Every one that goes out
the door, as long as it's not
diskless, includes Solaris 10. What
happens after that is hard to figure
out. Customers can install their own
operating system.
But
we just introduced the Solaris 10
update 1. It includes a registration
automatic-update facility. We're
going to start getting statistically
relevant data on how many people are
running Solaris and what updates
they're dong.
In
the past, we quoted 20 to 25 percent
in terms of Solaris usage. Now
Solaris usage is way up.
And do you have a
goal for 2006?
Fowler: No, we don't have specific
goals for Solaris' percentage. We're
looking at the overall picture of
unit volume. If we sold a million
servers and the percentage of
Solaris isn't very high, it would
still be good for Sun.
But not better for
profit margins?
Fowler: There are a number of
reasons Solaris is important to us.
We can bundle service with hardware.
We wrote it, so we can fix it.
Recently we had a situation with
Niagara (Sun's new UltraSparc T1
processor) where a customer
noticed something odd. In less than
24 hours, we found and fixed the
issue. You can't do that if you
didn't write the operating system.
With Solaris running
on eight-socket x86 servers, are you
competing against your company's
Sparc product lines?
Fowler: The product lines overlap
today. The (UltraSparc-based) V120,
V240 and V440 potentially overlap
with the (Opteron-based) V40z. The
decision we made quite some time ago
was that we were going to go and
make a server product line that
would solve whatever problems people
had.
If
you look at the newer UltraSparc
stuff like IV+ and Niagara, the
workloads they're best at are
different from what Opteron is good
at. On classic Web services
workload, Niagara will spank any
Opteron. On general-purpose
workload, Opteron is faster than
Niagara. The sales force figures out
what is the best way to solve
problem then uses whatever
technology works. Having Sparc in
the back end a V20z and V40z in the
front end is a common engagement
now. People are using Niagara with
Galaxy.
Who are you up
against in
customer
accounts?
Fowler: The
companies you
see over and
over are the big
three: Dell, HP
and IBM. In
financial
services, a
selection of
customers
strategically
chose to go with
Opteron and
they're no
longer
purchasing
Intel. In those
accounts, it's
invariably us
and HP. In more
general x86,
it's constantly
the big three. A
year ago, I
wasn't
necessarily even
getting invited
to compete.
There are
customers who
buy Opteron
only?
Fowler: There
are companies
that have chosen
to make future
purchases be
Opteron only for
the entire
infrastructure
of x86, and
they're quite
large. It's not
that surprising.
Years ago, they
decided to be
Intel only. The
way it works is:
you can buy
something else,
but you have to
go through an
exception
process in
purchasing.
Do you think the
changes out of
Intel will be
significant this
year and next
year? They have
"performance per
watt" emblazoned
on their
marketing
materials these
days.
Fowler: They'll
use the
advertising side
to promulgate a
message. On the
technology side,
they're going to
make an
incremental
improvement, but
the challenge is
the front-side
bus architecture
(the data
pathway that
links the
processor to the
computer's
memory system
and other
components) is
something that
doesn't change.
You can tweak
the front-side
bus speed and do
other things,
but what we've
discovered:
Niagara has
on-board memory
controllers. If
you can tackle
memory latency,
almost
everything runs
faster. Memory
latency is not
going to change
(with Intel). I
don't see the
competitive
landscape
changing a lot
between Intel
and AMD.
AMD's transition
to new
65-nanometer
manufacturing
technology is
slower than
Intel's, which
has price
consequences.
Are you
concerned?
Fowler: Intel
has the world's
best
manufacturing.
At the end of
the day, the
architecture and
capability of
the technology
is as important
or more
important than
the nanometers
of the process
you can put it
in.
One advantage
AMD has with the
onboard memory
controllers is
that they can
get away with
smaller (memory)
cache sizes.
They are
achieving their
great
performance with
1MB caches. One
of the side
effects is they
don't actually
need the same
number of
chips-per-wafer
yield to get to
the same price
points because
they're not
trying to put
8MB of cache on
a chip. Intel
needs 65
nanometer parts
because they
have to put
these put on
these huge
caches.
Sun's core
customers are
big companies.
To compete
against HP's x86
strength, you
have to go after
smaller
companies.
Fowler: We have
a pretty good
channel
structure and
partner
structure to
reach the
companies with
1,000 employees
and up, or 500
and up outside
the United
States. As we
continue to grow
we will extend
the reach.
We have healthy
respect for our
competitors. I'm
not a basher. I
may talk like a
wild man, but
inside the team
we take a
different
approach. For
example, in our
product
strategy, we
built products
around not just
market analysis
and size, but
mapped it
against emerging
technologies and
Sun technologies
like Solaris.
Our engineering
strategy is
aligned with
areas we think
are going to
grow. A
traditional IDC
analysis shows
the eight-socket
x86 market is
not very big.
When we looked
at technology
trends and
Solaris and
virtualization,
we concluded
that it's going
to be huge.
You like AMD
chips and say
they're good for
general-purpose
computing. But
your counterpart
at IBM,
Susan Whitney,
sees things
differently,
saying Opteron
is only good for
the narrower
segment of
high-performance
technical
computing. Why?
Fowler: If you
don't have an
Opteron line,
that's an
important
statement. If
you look for
example at SQL
Server
benchmarks (or)
directory
services on
Opteron, the
commercial
benchmarks are
compelling, and
in the
commercial space
people care
endlessly about
performance per
watt. I see a
lot if interest
in enterprise
and outside
high-performance
computing. I
think it's my
word against
hers.
Jonathan reminded us that the Test-Drive version of Solaris
is available today for everyone to download and try out. The
final version of Solaris (commercial release) will be in
January and that would be the time that the source will be
completely opened as well. He would like to see Solaris
scale from small embedded machines (submarines, hospitals)
to big mainframes.
Jonathan does not believe that the OpenSolaris will have
an impact on BSD's or Linux's growth. He doesn't see these
platforms as competitors per se, in terms of growth, but he
believes that all these platforms will equally evolve in the
future in their own ways, because there is no hammer that
fits all nails. Some needs require highly scalable systems,
other more secure, other more latency-friendly etc.
Instead, the two companies that he sees as definite
competitors are
Red Hat and mostly,
Microsoft. But he is
confident that OpenSolaris will help the Solaris platform in
general to keep its robustness and good name in the
Enterprise. In fact, he maintains that Solaris has better
scalability, affordability and security than any Microsoft
OS product currently, plus it runs Java --which is truly
cross platform-- delivering services that .NET would be able
to deliver only on Microsoft products. Points like these
make the Sun platform very valuable.
And speaking of the competition, he mentioned that
Apple's focus is not the Enterprise at large and therefore,
not a competitor: "That's not Steve's focus". Jonathan has
several Macs to his home and his family owns some more too.
We should not forget where Jonathan comes from, either: the
NeXTSTEP community, right before Sun purchased his software
company. Jonathan likes
Mac OS X a lot and he
believes that Apple should continue to innovate in its field
and continue create "beautiful and elegant products".
Jonathan says that the main focus of Solaris in terms of
the architecture it runs on will continue to be primarily
SPARC, accompanied by 32bit and 64bit x86. He invites the
open source community to port Solaris to other architectures
too, but he doesn't see much commercial value in doing so.
For example, he believes that the Itanium is not a durable
architecture, while IBM's Power5 is so proprietary that it
doesn't make it a good candidate for a port/business.
Instead, he welcomes companies to use Solaris on
purpose-built embedded system devices.
We asked about his thoughts on Red Hat
re-implementing
the Java platform from scratch and the implications that
would have for Sun. He believes that there is no danger of
Red Hat going very far within the Enterprise with this new
project because of several reasons, including the fact that
it would be a "tough sell" for established customers of the
Java platform including Samsung, Nokia and Google. In fact,
he fears that IBM is the one that would have the most
trouble from the whole Red Hat-Java deal, because as they
use Red Hat for their POWER projects, using a non-certified
Java version could create potential runtime problems.
The obvious question, then, was why Sun doesn't "Free up"
their version of Java, and the answer is that Java is
already "open," but not under a more liberal license because
Sun doesn't want to open up the potential for a fork. The
same fear is not present in the OpenSolaris situation
because Solaris is more closely defined and controlled by
Sun, while Java can be shaped by external forces easier, and
so Sun doesn't want to take that risk. With over 2 billion
devices worldwide running Java Sun is 100% committed to
ensuring that anything 'stamped' Java is compatible. Folks
really depend on that assurance.
Sun does seem to have a beef with Red Hat; that much was
obvious from our conversation. Jonathan believes that Red
Hat's ways in the business are not fully honest. He believes
that Red Hat locks Enterprise customers in, just like
Microsoft does, by steadily moving away from the LSB, by
patching and forking code (including using a very
non-standard Linux kernel) and so applications get certified
or only work in the Red Hat codebase and no other Linux
distro. Such an example is Oracle, where they do not support
any Linux distro other than Red Hat-based ones. Jonathan
believes that Red Hat, by differentiating the code so much,
has created its own incompatible platform, and is therefore
virtually pushing customers to continue use Red Hat instead
of Debian or Gentoo or other.
We asked Jonathan about his opinion on patents and he
summarized it thus: Patents are useful, but most of them are
"silly" and unfairly approved (in the US). In its official
position, Sun respects Intellectual Property, and as such
they will offer indemnification to all new versions of
Solaris.
Lastly, we asked Jonathan about his opinion on the
future of Unix and he sees a "vibrant and dynamic" future
for all "branches and leaves of the same tree", including
BSD and Linux ("which comes from the same swamp") but most
importantly --surprise, surprise-- Solaris. He looks
forward to a strong community build to help out with the
development of this high-integrity, robust and promising
platform.
The newly
released Solaris 10 includes a radical new technology called
DTrace which lets you look inside the usual black box of a
running production application to see exactly where the
bottlenecks are and what their impact is. As a result, I've been
telling clients with big Solaris operations that they should
dedicate a machine with at least two US3 or later CPUs to
Solaris 10 and use it to train their people on Solaris 10 and
DTrace by having them test all major systems.
It's easy to explain the value of
stuff like that to management. For the IT people, you just talk
about combining hardware and licensing dollar savings with
increased deployment flexibility -- and for senior management
you correlate software quality with reductions in error and
failure risks. Either way, you're really talking about software
which enables operational improvements within Sun's existing
customer base, and that, I'm sure, is why Sun is energetically
marketing these new capabilities.
Look a bit deeper, however, and
there's so much more in Solaris 10 that the release should
eventually become known as SunOS 3.0. (Note: SunOS 1.0 went to
release 4.1.4 with its successor, Solaris, initially known as
SunOS 5.0 and then relabeled as Solaris 2. Despite marketing's
best efforts, therefore, releases up to 2.8 were publicly known
as 2.X ,with 8 and 9 still known internally as 2.8 and 2.9,
respectively.)
Deeper
Innovations
Hot, new intrinsic capabilities
like DTrace, ZFS and the ability to run Linux binaries are the
realizations of deeper technological innovations like
microstate accounting. Solaris 10 brings a lot of those out
of the labs and into production environments where they'll
receive the kind of intensive real world testing that will
ultimately determine how important they are. Consider, for
example, this list of
Solaris 10 top 11-20 new features put together by Adam
Leventhal (one of the key developers behind DTrace):
-
- libumem -- the tool for
debugging dynamic allocation problems; oh, and it scales
as well or better than any other memory allocator.
- pfiles(1) with file
names -- you can get at the file name info through
/proc, too; very cool.
- Improved coreadm(1M) --
core files are now actually useful on other machines,
administrators and users can specify the content of core
files.
- System V IPC -- no more
clumsy system tunables and reboots, it's all dynamic,
and -- guess what? -- faster too.
- kmdb -- if you don't
care, OK, but if you do care, you really, really care:
mdb(1)'s cousin replaces kadb(1M).
- Watchpoints -- now they
work and they scale.
- pstack(1) for java --
see java stack frames in a JVM or core file and through
Dtrace.
- pmap(1) features -- see
thread stacks, and core file content.
- per-thread p-tools --
apply pstack(1) and truss(1) to just the threads you
care about.
- Event Ports -- a generic
API for dealing with heterogeneous event sources.
Things like these are invisible
to IT management and of little importance to the press, but this
is the stuff on which technology revolutions like DTrace and ZFS
are built. Thus, their presence in this release signals the
importance of Solaris 10, not as an end product but as a work in
progress.
Systemwide
Functionality
To me it seems that Sun is
driving toward what I think of as Plan-9 compliance; not at the
code level but in terms of systemwide functionality. Plan 9, you
might recall, is a kind of second generation Unix liberated from
the single machine focus of the original design to make full use
of multiple machines on a network. Originally, Sun's marketing
people said that "the network is the computer"; realistically,
Plan 9 reverses that to make it: "the computer is the network"
-- and that's exactly what's going on with Solaris.
Adam Leventhal's list, above,
reflects the achievements of people working to put in place the
foundations for future software, while the forthcoming Niagara
and later SPARC designs do the same thing at the hardware level
-- putting the equivalent of a traditional 32-way SMP box into a
single processor.
Bring them together in production
systems and what do you get? The ability to organize your
business around a single physical computer redundantly
implemented in processors spread across your network -- meaning
that a lot of business processes now limited by technology costs
and software complexity can be simplified right down to
affordability. That's what Solaris 10 is really about, and the
10-year impact is likely to be like nothing we've seen before.
by Tom Adelstein
November 22, 2004
On December 01, 1999, 32bitsonline.com published an
article in which I chronicled the emergence of Windows
NT from a small five percent share of the server market
to approximately 50 percent. During the period, Novell
fell from around an 80 percent share of the PC nodes to
around ten percent. With Novell flattened, Microsoft
started to go after UNIX until interrupted by Federal
Anti-Trust actions over the Netscape Browser.
The article called "Did Microsoft Try to Kill UNIX?"
no longer exists and neither do the many links that
documented Microsoft's famous ascent in the server
space. Evidence of the article's existence still remains
at this
link. You will notice this remnant:
"Microsoft claims that the United States Justice
Department has interfered with innovation in the
computer industry. One can't help but wonder what
people would call the collective effort of the
developers who created Linux."
In December 1999, Microsoft Windows held a 41 percent
share of the server OS market globally up from 38
percent in 1998. Surprisingly, Linux had showed a 27
percent share of new server shipments that year while
NetWare held 17 and UNIX 14 percent as
reported by market researcher IDC.
But go back to 1995 and you'll discover that Novell
had a 65.6 percent market share while Microsoft had
approximately 6 percent and OS/2 held steady at around
15 percent according to
periodicals from the time. During that period, Sun
Microsystems held a 40 percent share of the RISC
UNIX workstation market. Go back a little further
and Novell NetWare and UNIX owned the entire server
market give or a take a few percent.
What happened to Novell? In almost missing the
Internet, Microsoft scrambled. In fact, Bill Gates saw
what Sun Microsystems had done and jumped through hoops
to get into the game. Novell missed the Internet
entirely until hiring Sun's Internet architect Eric
Schmidt in
1997. It was just a little too late and still took
Novell time to gear up and once it had, Schmidt went to
work at
Google. Many people who worked in the industry ten
years ago remember how the Internet saved Sun
Microsystems and caused her to hold the most prominent
place in the server operating system market.
Along Comes GNU/Linux
During the
Federal prosecution of Microsoft, which began in
October 1997 and ended in November 2001, Linux rose to
prominence. Microsoft needed a competitor. But the young
upstart Linux didn't even have an officially supported
graphical Internet browser at the time. As Microsoft
came to realize the serious intent of the Department of
Justice and Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson, Redmond began
to act a little more convinced of the prowess of Linux.
A few nudges in the press and a few attacks on Linux and
soon others began to look into the seriousness of Linux.
Once, Microsoft escaped the threat of a corporate
breakup, Linux had gone from a user base of two to
approximately twenty million. In addition, Linux became
a favorite of IBM, HP and thousands of value added
resellers.
As Microsoft shook off its anti-trust haze and looked
around, it began to focus its attention on growing its
server business once again. NetWare posed no threat and
IBM had agreed to stop marketing OS/2. But, IBM embraced
Linux and began taking market share from wherever it
could. Microsoft had a formidable adversary in the
server space in IBM.
Through Linux, IBM made refugees of the Santa Cruz
Project, HP's UNIX and to a certain extent Microsoft's
NT. IBM also trained its eyes on long time nemesis Sun
Microsystems and actively undercut Sun's hardware and
software prices. Then something happened that makes
little sense: IBM turned from its attack on Microsoft
and focused entirely on Sun Microsystems. IBM sent its
entire Linux team to Siberia, dropped its plans for a
Linux desktop and became obsessed with Sun. This served
Microsoft well. IBM would continue to compete with
Microsoft but not to the extent that it wanted to
endanger Sun and perhaps turn them into the Data General
of the early twenty first century.
Enter SCO
Through SCO, Microsoft succeeded in transferring the
angst of the open-source community from itself to other
entities primarily the SCO Group and Sun Microsystems.
The SCO phenomenon doesn't make sense when you
attempt to connect the dots. Microsoft could not have
asked for a better situation in which to display its
agility at manipulating perception.
C/NET reported on the Sun transaction in June 2003.
Explaining the situation, C/NET wrote:
SCO's Unix licensing plan got a major boost of
publicity in May when Microsoft announced its
decision to license Unix from SCO, but Sun actually
was the first company to sign on. SCO and Sun
confirmed the licensing deal on Wednesday.
The pact, signed earlier this year, expanded the
rights Sun acquired in 1994 to use Unix in its
Solaris operating system...Sun's expanded license
permits Sun to use some software from Unix System V
Release 4 for software components called drivers,
which let computers use hard drives, network cards
and other devices. Sun needed the software for its
version of Solaris that runs on Intel servers, Sun
spokesman Brett Smith said. A source familiar with
the deal said the new contract was signed in
February, but neither Sun nor SCO would comment.
Microsoft could not have asked for better timing.
Seizing the opportunity to seed SCO in its efforts to
disrupt Linux, they bundled another enemy into the fray:
Sun Microsystems. Then, to shift the attention away from
themselves further, Microsoft cleverly paid Sun money
for the damages owed in court losses by hosting a
"love-in" between the Sun and Microsoft CEO's. Microsoft
then announced a licensing deal where Sun would receive
intellectual property it could use to connect to
Microsoft servers.
Suddenly, Sun became the target of open-source angst.
Microsoft used a clever psychological trick to transfer
the hatred of technologists from themselves to others.
In the eyes of the media and others, Microsoft and Sun
became sudden partners against Linux.
And just to show how good a partner they really have
become, the same Microsoft has made a major effort to
undermine the Linux wins Sun made in China. How? By
trying to scare the Chinese with threats of patent
infringement.
Sun Plays Checkers, Microsoft Plays Chess
I don't wish to disparage Sun, but their press
relations need as much of an overhaul as their product
line. Known internally as fascists, they could have
served as campaign advisers to any flip-flopping
politician one might choose. Here's Sun management
opening themselves to the community with a blogsphere
and yet no one inside the company can talk to the press,
write an article or issue a press release without the
guiding hand of the Sun media relations. What's the
difference between that and saying I don't own a SUV but
my family does? Or, saying I voted for the Bill before I
voted against it?
Sun began work on its Linux Desktop in September
2002. It opened sourced its Cobalt software, provides
the major support for Gnome, purchased StarOffice and
gave the code to the community, supports Mozilla and
pays a ridiculous sum for open-source projects at
Collab.net. Now, people see them as the enemy. Let's
just say that Sun's media relations team has done a
wonderful job of confusing the public, making the
company seem like an enemy of open-source, stressing
proprietary software and embarrassing management. Way to
go.
Is Sun against Linux?
In September, O'Reilly and Associates published a
book written by Sam Hiser and me called
"Exploring
the JDS Linux Desktop". In actually, it could have
taken the name "Exploring the Linux Desktop" or
"Exploring Linux with JDS". We settled on the Sun
distribution of the Linux desktop because it provided
the best migration and management tools for Microsoft
users. Also, Sun provided us with support, which we
couldn't get from other distributions of Linux. Let's
say Sun cooperated with us.
All parties involved in the book needed convincing
that Sun had a long-term and proper commitment to Linux.
We did extensive due diligence and came away feeling we
made the right choice. Writing and publishing the book
required a major commitment on our part and O'Reilly's.
The technical book market requires more precision today
than ever. You cannot just throw a book out there and
expect it to sell. So, we felt comfortable with the Sun
Linux team.
Note: The "A" players in the Linux business
all had a chance to have their own distribution in the
name of the book. Some even had an inside advantage. At
decision time, JDS prevailed. As someone who put eight
months into the project and helped form a community
support web site, Sun's floundering around on the PR
front has disappointed me, personally and
professionally.
Recently, I saw a glimmer of light with regard to Sun
regaining its deserved community standing.
In Jonathan's Blog, he explained the company's
commitment to Linux:
Our desktop efforts, and linux product strategy, are
well ahead of the cynics in the industry - and are
helping us make progress on the globe's ambitions
for a truly cheap PC. We've tried working with a few
of the larger PC OEMs, but they, unlike WalMart,
aren't all that interested in lowering prices in the
PC industry. They're trying to maintain margins, not
make PCs more affordable. Bridge the digital divide?
I doubt that's on Dell's list of strategic
priorities. Hear this: it is certainly on ours. It's
even good for our business.
And before more of the conspiracy theories show up,
let me quash (or start) a few of them.
In addition to JDS/linux, yes, we are committed to
JDS/Solaris. An open source Solaris, with its
security and virtualization infrastructure, is a
perfect match for JDS. And as Red Hat's rhetoric
continues to alienate customers and the open source
community, we're finding a welcome audience for
bringing an open source Solaris 10 to new markets.
Competition is a good thing for the open source
movement. Those who truly believe in open source
welcome competition - those hiding behind marketing
veneer and vendor lock-in hate it.
Should UNIX Go?
Left with the choice between only Microsoft and
Linux, I cannot get comfortable. Microsoft looks like
they may have gross revenues of $36 billion. Novell
projects around $1 billion and Red Hat around $125
million. With Sun in the mix, you have an $11 Billion
player.
I don't see much complaining from the open-source
community about IBM selling a mix of operating systems
including OS400, which you need to run Linux on their
iSeries (AS400) platform. They continue to sell AIX and
no one complains.
HP and SGI, other major Linux OEM's, sell UNIX and
Microsoft and you don't see any flames against them.
Contrary to Jonathan's claims, HP denies they have
discontinued their version of UNIX. Given the chance to
sell HP-UX or IRIX, neither company will say no.
Another argument that favors keeping UNIX involves
the installed base. UNIX has a massive base of users in
health care, government, the military, education,
manufacturing, telecommunications, and financial
services. Linux cannot replace UNIX entirely. As the
director of distributed computing at the Chicago
Mercantile Exchange, Joseph Panfil related in this issue
of
ComputerWorld:
A key issue with the Merc's use of Linux is support.
With Sun, Panfil says, the Merc deals with a mature
and responsive support organization that will
immediately fly out a kernel expert if needed. But
he says he thinks the Merc's Linux vendor, Red Hat
Inc., needs to improve its support. Currently, he
says, Red Hat emphasizes purchasing more products as
a way to fix problems. "When there are issues, they
need to step up better," Panfil says.
Michael Tiemann, Red Hat's vice president of
open-source affairs, says he understands Panfil's
concerns; he acknowledges that his company is still
learning and says it is making changes.
Tiemann says that Red Hat's goal is to sell products
upfront and that the important thing is that when
the Merc had problems, they were solved.
"Ultimately, Red Hat was able to dig into its
technical knowledge and expertise ... and help that
customer get to the place that they wanted," he
says.
Ultimately, Red Hat may become a larger player in the
market. Today, it just doesn't have the bandwidth to
compete with extant companies. If you start looking
around at the existing players they all have signficant
ties to Microsoft with the exception of Sun. And while
Microsoft has helped create the perception that Sun is a
partner, the guys in the bullpen haven't bought it. In
fact, of the major players only Sun is a UNIX company
first and foremost. They don't depend on Microsoft for
their air supply like IBM, HP, Dell and others.
Final Thoughts
Some people may find it difficult to understand that
in baseball, I'm a Yankees fan. Living in Dallas that
may not make much sense. I learned some time ago that
George Steinbrenner doesn't hit, catch or throw. He even
has made many enemies along his career path as the
Yankee's skipper. He does find and pay for the talent. I
don't have to like him to like his players.
Using the analogy of the Yankees, I tend to look at
the team and not the executives. I personally like the
Sun Linux team and the people working on OpenSolaris. I
like it that they're making Grub the bootloader for
Solaris 10 and enabling Linux apps for their main stream
customers. Those items work for me. Spelling Linux with
a small "l" doesn't. In fact, I would consider it a
personal favor if the blogger that does that starting
acknowledging the community that disrupted Microsoft's
technological dominance. Scare 'em all, I say!
[Nov 19, 2004]
Sun will shine again and leave Linux in its shade Not many open source
aficionados will realize the impact, but by making Solaris 10 free and capable
of operating on any kind of hardware, Sun is making a coup in the server market.
Let me start by saying that I’m not a
technical expert. Although this might be a handicap it could very well be a
positive in looking at the issue of Sun versus Linux in the server business
from a decision maker's point of view.
Until today, the discussion around Linux pushed by Red Hat and recently by
Novell after it took over Suse has been around the risks and opportunitites
of the open source model versus the costs and slow adaptation of the
proprietary model.
Opponents of open source software always argued that due to its nature there
is a risk that version control, compatibility, future development and support
is not guaranteed and could leave companies who use it at some point with a
free but outdated system that is difficult to maintain.
Companies like Red Hat and Novell and on occasion other big players have
tried to take away these arguments by committing to the open source model and
vowed to make it work. Despite their efforts and some success, there still is
a lot of skepticism within corporate IT departments and as a result Linux is
not taking the market by storm.
With the decision by Sun to give away their latest version of their software,
Solaris 10 for free all of these concerns have evaporated in one blow in
favor of the now open source and compatible Solaris 10 supported by Sun.
Looking at the advantage of going the Sun route versus the Linux route
it is hard to see why any IT executive would chose to
switch to Linux.
- The Solaris software is of proven quality
and at least equal or better then Linux and the open source model will
assure that it stays up there.
- By making it work with competing hardware
platforms, there is no reason anymore to switch software to facilitate
lower hardware costs.
- Sun with Solaris has already a large
installed base and by becoming free and open source there is no reason for
existing Solaris users to switch to Linux.
- Sun has a proven reputation in terms of
quality of support. This should be at least as good or better then that of
the Linux supporters.
- Because Sun by default is the only
designated party managing the open source software, there will be no risk
of a version bonanza with multiple incompatible versions.
- Again as a non technical person, the
decision for me would be simple, I would go with Solaris unless I was
already using Linux; Why take risks when I can choose a proven, high
quality solution at comparable costs?
As a result Linux will probably not grow much
beyond its current market share of about 10 % leaving Red Hat and especially
Novell with a big problem
Of course I might very well be overlooking something here, if so, please let
me and other readers know by posting your opinion in a reaction (see below).
McNealy, visiting customers and the press in
Toronto on Nov. 5, bristled at the suggestion that Sun was pressured into
making its latest version of the Solaris operating system (OS) available to
open source developers.
“Pressure? It fascinates me how people think the
world operates, that I’m some sort of politician running for office. There
are absolute legal issues,” McNealy said, pointing out that Sun had to rid
the OS of some proprietary code before open sourcing it.
On Nov. 15 Sun plans to
unveil Solaris 10, the first example of the OS to be available on an
open-source basis. It features technology called Dynamic Tracing (DTrace), a
way for administrators to tweak the platform for maximum performance. Solaris
10 also sports “containers” that isolate applications for further performance
improvement, and a new TCP/IP stack that Sun says provides efficient
communication processing.
McNealy said Solaris 10 is merely the latest in a
long line of Sun contributions to the open source crowd.
“We’re the number-one donator of code to the open
source community on the planet,” McNealy said. “To say that we need to
be pressured — we invented open source, gang. That’s a little Al Gore-ish.
The number one donator of open source code is (University of California)
Berkeley. Know where all that came from? (Former Sun chief scientist) Bill
Joy, who invented open source while at Berkeley with the BSD licence. We were
the Red Hat of Berkeley Unix before Linus Torvalds was out of diapers.”
McNealy took IBM Corp. to task for high OS
operating costs. He said Sun could offer Solaris 10 at a price of US$1 per
CPU, per hour — customers would pay just a greenback for 60 minutes of access
to the platform.
“IBM has…300,000 employees and they’re hiring
more,” McNealy said, explaining why he thinks Big Blue can’t match Sun’s
metric. “Where’s their dollar per CPU-hour? They can’t do it, because they’re
at more than a dollar per CPU-hour just in pension costs.”
McNealy said Sun would offer Solaris containers
in an application service provider (ASP) model, whereby the company serves up
the OS packages via a data centre, and enterprises would access the
containers online.
The data centre is an “N1” environment. N1 is
Sun’s server load-balancing and virtualization model that aims to improve
server utilization rates. Industry analysts have said most servers
operate at just 15 per cent of their capacity. Servers in an N1 environment
can at 80 per cent, according to Sun.
Sun’s goal is to become less of a front-line tech
provider and more of a background operator, McNealy said, likening his firm’s
future to the way certain other gear makers do business. “Nobody
chooses Lucent or Nortel or Alcatel as your switch environment. You just sign
up. You don’t know what’s on the back end.”
Sun has faced problems recently. In April the
company recorded a US$760 million loss for Q3 2004. The company laid off
3,500 employees. Sun ousted Neil Knox, the executive vice-president of
low-end servers, Clark Masters, executive vice-president of high-end servers,
and Mark Tolliver, chief strategy and marketing officer.
Things got better in the fourth quarter as Sun
landed US$795 million in the black, but in October the company recorded a
US$174 million loss for Q1 2005.
McNealy put a positive spin on the most recent
numbers, pointing out that Sun has US$7.4 billion in the bank, and Q1 would
have been profitable if not for unusual charges, such as a US$92 million
cheque written to Eastman Kodak Co. to settle a court case.
McNealy said the ASP Solaris model is temporary,
merely a way to “irritate the market” in the hopes of convincing service
providers like Bell Canada and Telus Corp. to create their own N1 data
centres and serve up Solaris containers. So far not one Canadian service
provider has signed on.
- For organizations supporting between 1- 400 users
- Databases up to 500 Gb of Data
- Either $149 per Named User (minimum of 5 Users)
- Or $4995 per CPU (Maximum of two CPUs) for unlimited use
- Fast Installation and Configuration, with Built-in Automated Management
- Suitable for all types of Data, and all Applications
- Basic replication capabilities for Branch Office environments.
- The performance, availability, security and reliability you've come to
expect from Oracle
- Fully upgradeable to Oracle Database 10g Standard and Enterprise Editions
... ... ...
Does Oracle still believe that the
typical open-source user is price-sensitive and therefore can't afford Oracle
products? We have extremely competitive pricing on
our entry-level products, like the Standard Edition One product, that
are at a list price of $149 per user (Minimum 5 users
so this actually $750 - nnb) This price is highly competitive with
open-source databases, which charge a great deal more for their support
services.
Yet haven't companies like MySQL been
cutting into your market share at the low end with open-source databases?
MySQL does not claim the same database market as
Oracle. Their product is used typically in the middle tier for storing data
such as catalogs or Web sites and things like that. In fact, open-source
database products are a good thing for Oracle, because they give a lot of
users their first exposure to relational databases and give them an
opportunity to learn about the technologies.
Why do you think companies like CA
are open-sourcing databases? There are more than
two dozen different database companies out there. Some are open-sourcing very
old technologies in an effort to rejuvenate their business and grow shrinking
market share. I don't see that as very viable.
Now that Red Hat has released Sistina
Global File System under the GNU General Public License, do you need to
continue updating your cluster file system? We
believe that by providing the complete technology infrastructure, including
the cluster file system, it is easier to install and maintain our products.
The cluster file system is an important component of our clustering
technology. In order to make it easier and simpler for our customers to
install their products and maintain them, we want to provide a complete
technology stack.
... ... ...
[Nov 4, 2004]
Stone Rolls
Away From Novell By
Michael Singer Chris Stone, who was instrumental in
Novell's acquisition of SUSE Linux, has left for other pursuits, the company
said Thursday. No successor has been named.
Stone served as Vice Chairman of the Office of the CEO and was one of the
most visible figures in the Provo, Utah-based company's forays into open
source. Stone had been responsible for engineering, product management and
alliances, the company said. One of his last projects was getting Novell (Quote,
Chart) to
join
the IBM-backed Eclipse Project.
"It is with some regret that I have decided to leave Novell and pursue
other professional opportunities," Stone said in a statement. "I am proud of
my work and accomplishments at Novell, but now is the time in my career to do
something else, and I look forward to new challenges. Novell is strategically
well positioned to remain a viable and significant vendor in the enterprise
software space."
Novell chairman and CEO Jack Messman said he will oversee Stone's
responsibilities on an interim basis.
"We thank Chris for his service to Novell over the past two and one half
years," Messman said in a statement. "He made significant contributions to
changes in our strategic direction, and his vision and energy will be missed.
We wish him well."
Stuart Cohen, CEO of OSDL, who worked closely together with Stone after
Novell joined OSDL, also offered his condolences.
"Chris Stone has played a key role in the acceleration of Linux, and we
wish him all the best," Cohen said in a statement. "Stone was instrumental in
Novell's acquisition of SUSE and in joining and taking a leadership role with
OSDL."
The news barely impacted the company's stock, as shares of Novell ended
the day up 1.1 percent, or 8 cents, at $7.18.
Comment from Linuxtoday:
| tone ( Nov 5, 2004,
23:51:51 ) |
I never heard of this guy before, but I will tell
you what: Novell is a great company poised to do big things...however,
I have the sense that they have a real lack of direction -- that is,
they are all dressed up with no where to go.
So, to me, that usually means executives with little or no ideas, or
executives with so many competing ideas that there is no coherence to
the business. For example, the Suse product, should be much further
along in terms of quality and functionality, after a year or so under
Novell's tutalege. I just see them re-releasing the same thing over and
over again -- the consumer is going to not to want to pay $70 every 3
months for that (!!)
The departure of a senior exec from such an environment should be seen
as a great weight lifting from the back of Novell and a reason to buy
more stock.
John Bailo
Texeme Construct
http://texeme.com
|
Something rather strange happened
earlier this month. Sun released -- but did not announce -- a Solaris-based
version of Release 2 of its Java Desktop System (JDS). Given the significance
of JDS R2, for which a Linux-based version has existed since May 2004, why
would Sun avoid drawing attention to this release?
Though it comes with an operating system
(Linux or Solaris), JDS' primary value proposition is as a productivity tool.
JDS is no Microsoft Office, but it does address most productivity needs for
most users and, in what may be an advantage to some but disadvantage to
others, it often does so in an MS-Office-incompatible way. (That
incompatibility may be rectified as a result of a recent cross-licensing
agreement between Microsoft and Sun.)
At a subscription price of $50 per year
(officially, it's $100, but the $50 promo price shows no signs of changing),
any software product that includes an operating system (Novell's SuSE Linux
or Sun's Solaris 9, both for x86), a full-blown productivity suite (StarOffice),
Exchange-compatible mail and calendaring (via Novell's Ximian Evolution
Client), a complete suite of Java development tools, and upgrade protection
via automatic updates (the key benefit of the annual subscription), is a
bargain.
Talkback - ZDNet I admire Sun more and more every day.
In the past, I often thought Sun was shooting
itself in the foot with their "we must get Microsoft" attitude and actions.
Today I see Sun having settled their differences with MS to the always
popular tune, "north of a billion dollars by a fair piece", grasped they
can't be a CPU company effectively in today's market, developed Java with
community involvement while maintaining ownership/control, recognized the
value of Solaris if positioned/priced properly, supported open source where
it makes sense, and made the decision to not be a services company ala IBM.
I've seen lots of posts about the "Sun setting" but I honestly believe
Sun is turning the company around and by offering multiple ways to
buy/lease/rent/subscribe/use software they are introducing alternatives to
the more traditional methods and that's a winner for consumers. Some
would argue their marketing is too fragmented and going in different
directions, to that I would say that sometimes, especially in a stagnant
market, you have no choice but to throw stuff against the wall and see what
sticks.
Oh, and not to make a dig against Linux but if Sun plays Solaris on the X86
right then all bets are off. With Sun's financial power and technical know
how, a serious contender in the proprietary OS market is all but a sure
thing. In all my contacts with people using Solaris, I have never heard any
serious negatives about it and that's saying a lot.
Last, I find it striking that the author suggests a very cheap PC (or
device?) based on the technology outlined, and that Steve Ballmer said much
the same thing just last week. Two very different views of the market, in
fact almost polar opposite views, arriving at the same conclusion.
Now tell me how scary that is...
We write in
response to your letter dated September 28, 2004 regarding what you
allege as “misstatements of fact” concerning HP/UX.
Claim 1: "HP's problems spawn
from the death of... their operating system, HP/UX. Like IBM, they've elected
to ask their customers and ISV's to move to Red Hat Linux or Microsoft
Windows on x86 systems."
Jonathan Schwartz, Sun's
President and COO, has confirmed that he does in fact believe that HP's
problems spawn from the death of its operating system. The editorial comments
found in his personal blog provide an accurate and good faith account of his
opinion of HP/UX.
As you know, Section 43(a) of
the Lanham Act requires that the allegedly false statement be one of fact,
not opinion, and representations of opinion are not actionable under a theory
of trade libel. Nevertheless, and in the alternative, assuming HP's problems
are in fact verifiable statements, Mr. Schwartz's claims have a surplus of
substantiation.
Sun's claim that HP/UX is dead
is based on the following:
A. HP/UX is currently the
operating system for HP's family of HP 9000 servers, which are built on
PA-RISC processors.
B. HP has announced that it
will EOL the HP 9000 series and move away from the PA-RISC architecture. HP
recommends migration to HP Integrity servers, which are built on Itanium
processors. HP has stated publicly that HP/UX will only be available on
Itanium and that it will not port HP/UX to x86.
With regard to HP-UX, one of
the biggest indictment against its survival is the fact that it is dependent
on Itanium and customers moving to that platform. Three facts further support
this claim. First, market pick-up has been very slow for Itanium with HP
selling in excess of 90% of the product in this market, and no other vendor
selling any significant volume. Second, much of the Itanium market to date,
approximately 80%, has been in the 1-4 way space and the new Intel Xeon 64
and AMD Opteron are showing much stronger acceptance in this space verses
Itanium. Third, migration to Itanium, whether it be from Tru64/Alpha or
HP-UX/PA-RISC, requires a disruptive migration, and according to a survey
done at the most recent HP World show (August 2004) 50% of the respondents
said they would never undertake such a migration.
Further support for our claim
of Itanium's failing performance in the market is the fact that quarter over
quarter sales this year are declining, as well as HP's own public withdrawal
from the chip for its workstations.
C. Given the cost and complexity of porting applications built for PA-RISC
platforms, Sun believes that many independent software vendors (ISVs)
currently offering applications for the HP 9000 (PA-RISC) architecture will
choose not to port those applications to the new Itanium architecture.
D. For similar reasons,
detailed more fully below, HP/UX on Itanium is not a meaningful choice for a
second group of current HP customers -- customers of HP's Alpha servers which
are built on HP's Alpha processors, and which run the Tru64 UNIX operating
system.
The evidence in Sun's files
clearly supports the fact in Claim 1 that HP has asked and continues to ask
its customers to use Red Hat Linux or Microsoft Windows on x86 systems and is
actively marketing these platforms. See HP's own web sites
http://h10018.www1.hp.com/wwsolutions/linux/index.html and
http://h10018.www1.hp.com/wwsolutions/linux/customers.html. HP recently
claimed to be the marketshare leader in this area, see IDC Worldwide
Quarterly Server Tracker Q2 2004, August 26, 2004 Release, based on its sales
of Red Hat Linux or Microsoft Windows on x86 systems.
Claim 2: "HP/UX won't even run
on HP's own industry standard servers."
Anne Livermore, Executive Vice
President and head of HP's Technology Solutions Group, has stated that HP
will not port HP/UX onto its industry standard x86 servers. See article “Q&A:
HP's Livermore Sees No Need for HP/UX on x86,” August 17, 2004, http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/hardware/story/0,10801,95312,00.html.
The data verifies that HP/UX does not run on industry standard servers.
Industry standard servers, which is a de facto standard, are defined by and
across the computer industry as x86 based servers. Based on HP's data, the HP
Industry Standard Server Product Family is the ProLiant server family, not
the Integrity family, see
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/platforms/transition.html.
HP's own web site lists the Industry Standard Server Operating Systems as
Microsoft, Novell and Linux. HP/UX is not listed here, see
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/index.html, nor it is
included or even referenced in HP's Industry Standard Server Product Family.
Accordingly, the evidence clearly supports the fact that HP Integrity servers
(which run HP/UX) are not industry standard servers. See also, HP's earnings
slides for Q3FY04, where HP breaks out their x86 business separately and
calls it “Industry Standard Servers.” By contrast, in the transcript of its
Q3 FY2004 earnings call, HP clearly states that UNIX (which HP uses to
reference HP/UX and Tru64 UNIX offerings) resides in its Business Critical
Systems division.
Claim 3: "Is HP running from
you and its HP/UX and Tru64 Commitment?"
This question is not provably
false and is not actionable under Section 43(a) or any theory of trade libel.
Your letter interprets this question as an implication by Sun that HP is not
committed to HP/UX and Tru64 UNIX customers. Even if this question were a
provable statement, Sun's evidence confirms a clear lack of commitment by HP
to both its HP/UX and Tru64 UNIX customers. HP's public statements and road
map for HP/UX plainly show that HP plans to stop developing HP 9000 beyond
the PA8900 server (due in 2005). See HP Server Strategy presentation by Ken
Surplice, HP Product Manager, EMEA, May 2003. This abdication by HP and its
decision not to continue with this line of products is an abandonment of
those customers who want and who use those products. We understand your
statement that HP is committed to its HP/UX customers provided they move to
Itanium. Based on this evidence, however, HP offers no path for those HP/UX
customers who do not move to Itanium. Moreover, Sun believes that Itanium is
not a meaningful choice for all of the reasons we state in this letter.
As discussed in item B, above,
Sun's support for its claims against HP/UX's survival is the fact that it is
dependent on Itanium and customers moving to that platform. Again, as further
support: (1) market pick-up has been very slow for Itanium, (2) much of the
Itanium market to date has been in the 1-4 way space and the new Intel Xeon
64 and AMD Opteron are showing much stronger acceptance in this space verses
Itanium, (3) migration to Itanium, whether it be from Tru64/Alpha or
HP-UX/PA-RISC, requires a disruptive migration, and according to a survey
done at the most recent HP World show (August 2004) 50% of the respondents
said they would never undertake such a migration. Moreover, Itanium has
exhibited a failing performance in the market with quarter over quarter sales
this year declining, and HP has publicly withdrawal from the chip for its
workstations.
Things look equally bleak for
Tru64 UNIX customers. HP announced its plans to EOL the Alpha processor and
server family (and consequently the Tru64) approximately two years ago.
Customers using the Tru64 operating system are on the last version of the
Alpha server, the EV7z. Like HP/UX customers, Tru64 UNIX customers have to
migrate to the HP/UX Itanium platform if they want an enterprise class UNIX
platform from HP. Moreover, these Tru64/Alpha customers will have no viable
option for migrating from HP to another HP system until at least 2006.
According to HP's current roadmap, Version 3 of the HP/UX11i operating
system, the first version with some key enterprise -level features, will not
be available until 2006 at the earliest.
It is our belief that HP's
actions constitute an abandonment of both of these customer bases.
Claim 4: "Less than two years
after abandoning its inherited Tru64 UNIX customers, HP seems on the same
path once again to abandon another one of its very loyal customer bases. This
time it is its HP/UX UNIX customer base, which is now beginning to see signs
that HP may not be committed to the HP/UX UNIX business for the long haul."
(See http://www.sun.com/executives/realitycheck/reality-091004.html)
Again, the above are subjective
statements and reflect Sun's opinion of why Sun detects a lack of commitment
to both Tru64 UNIX and HP/UX customers. Alternatively, Sun has evidence to
show that HP is offering no viable choices to either its HP/UX or Tru64
customers. Accordingly, it is reasonable to believe or even to conclude that
once a product has been EOLed, like Alpha has been, the ISVs will withdraw
their support.
Claim 5: "More importantly, for
both the Tru64 and HP/UX customers, HP/UX 11i v3 was going to be the same
version for both the HP 9000 family and the HP integrity family. . . . and it
was promised for late 2004. ... The slippage of HP/UX 11i v 3 by up to 18
months is major concerns for existing HP customers. . . . ."
You letter claims that Sun is
referring to an out of date HP/UX roadmap. Our statements were based on the
then current data, which is still current today, that show Version 3 will not
be available until 2005 and may slip back to 2006. Your letter also states
that “in fact, many of the features previously scheduled to be included in
HP/UX 11iv3 were included in HP/UX11i v2." However, there is no contrary
evidence in your letter or from our research that contradicts our claim that
the key Tru64 UNIX features like clustering and advanced file system will be
included in Version 3. As such, we believe that HP/UX 11i v2 is little or no
help to many Tru64 UNIX customers, who would appear to still have to migrate
to Itanium or wait for Version 3 in 2006.
All of the above statements of
fact are truthful and correct and have adequate substantiation. Our
substantiation is based on well established evidence. According to HP's HP/UX
roadmap, HP/UX11i v3 is planned to be the same version for both the HP 9000
family and the HP Integrity family running on Tru64 and HP/UX systems. HP
claims that it can thereby present customers with the features and
functionality of both HP/UX and Tru64. However, the data shows that HP has
not delivered some of the key features and functionality with HP/UX 11iv2.
Although there is the same
version for both PA-RISC and Itanium, it still does not include the
functionality from Tru64. Therefore, while we do not dispute that HP has
delivered a common HP/UX release for both PA-RISC and Itanium, many Tru64
customers are still left out in the cold without the functionality they need
to make sound architectural decisions. Accordingly, only HP/UX customers can
purport to benefit from HP/UX 11iv2, not Tru64 customers, and then we believe
only mildly.
Claim 6: "HP is abandoning
HP/UX."
Once again, in certain of the
places this is a statement of opinion by Jonathan Schwartz. His opinion is
based on his good faith assessment of the current climate of HP.
Alternatively, however, Sun will also stand behind this as a statement of
fact that is true and accurate based on the above substantiation. As detailed
by the above facts, we have seen signs that HP is abandoning HP/UX.
Jonathan Schwartz's opinions
and even his vigorous debate on this subject as well as Sun's product
comparisons and dialog on these commercial matters are inherent in Sun's
competition with HP and are part of the free market system in which our
companies operate. For our statements of fact, Sun has valid, objective and
verifiable evidence. Accordingly, and based on the above, Sun affirmatively
stands by its claims regarding HP/UX and will not agree to cease making such
truthful and/or subjective claims.
From readers comments:
This arguing over Unix between Sun and HP is like arguing about the
placement of deck chairs on the Titanic. Unix is losing its appeal. The nasty
comments about who is better in an ever decreasing market sounds like the
false bravado of Apple advocates for the corporate workplace - simply wrong.
[APR 12, 2004]
Customers in Charge - Computerworld
(COMPUTERWORLD) - No question
about it, this one belongs to you. IT customers were the driving force, the
ultimate bottom line, the wake-up-to-reality call behind the historic
Sun-Microsoft accord announced the morning of April 2 [QuickLink
45970]. Scott McNealy and
Steve Ballmer spoke softly but carried a big peace treaty with your names on
it -- wrapping up years of angry rhetoric and a fierce, often
counterproductive rivalry that bedeviled enterprise IT operations with
interoperability headaches and unnecessary expense.
"We're in a new era of customer-driven
competition," Ballmer said.
McNealy agreed, "The customer is in charge."
No kidding. But were you impressed by this
dramatically staged ending to the industry's most legendary feud? Well, not
exactly.
"I want to see something concrete and real,"
said Daniel Morreale, CIO at the North Bronx Healthcare Network in New York,
voicing what was no doubt the skeptical reaction of many of his peers across
the nation.
Tony Scott, chief technology officer at
General Motors, was quoted in The Wall Street Journal about his
pointed advice to both CEOs to get their acts together. He's had to educate
the pair on "the real pain that customers go through when you have multiple
incompatible standards and technologies."
That message seems to have finally struck its
target. McNealy and Ballmer, usually glib and cheerfully combative with the
press, were subdued and serious at the announcement of their truce. Once the
initial element of surprise wears off, they'll have a lot to prove. As
technology buyers have gained more power over suppliers, they've lost
patience with petty product warfare.
"It's good that there is going to be an era of
cooperation, but what does it really mean to people?" asked Satish Ajmani,
CIO of the Santa Clara County government in Sun's home state of California.
"What are they going to deliver that's different from what we have today, and
will it result in an overall cost reduction for us?"
Answering those questions had better be the
primary focus of both vendors as they move into detente. Microsoft will pay
its longtime rival $1.6 billion to settle Sun's antitrust suit and resolve
several patent claims. Far more meaningful to users, however, is the
potential of the 10-year commitment to collaborate on technology and to
license each other's intellectual property.
Customers will be waiting -- and not all that
patiently -- to see the concrete follow-through on those lofty assurances of
improvements in server integration, easier interoperability between products
such as Java and .Net, and seamless support of each other's protocols.
Beyond the customer issues, some significant
external factors also took a turn behind the wheel of this deal.
Both companies are worried about the rise of
Linux and the ever-present threat of IBM's enterprise dominance. Sun has
suffered through years of financial setbacks and faces yet another quarterly
loss and an upcoming layoff of 3,300 employees. Microsoft has spent tens of
millions of dollars in courtroom battles over antitrust issues, and its
stinging defeat last month by the European Commission moved its legal
troubles as a monopolist onto the world stage.
What both vendors now face is a journey just
as arduous as the year of secret talks that brought them this far. They must
now mutate 15 years of competitive DNA, convince thousands of startled
employees to embrace the enemy and finally readjust to a new reality. The one
where customers are in charge.
Maryfran Johnson
is editor in chief of Computerworld. You can
contact her at
maryfran_johnson@computerworld.com.
Sun readies hardened solaris
In an effort to batten down its operating
system, sun microsystems inc. this week will unveil a sweeping set of
security enhancements to solaris, as well as new managed security services.
The moves, which include a rewriting of parts
of the Solaris kernel as well as a major partnership with VeriSign Inc., are
in large part a response to well-established security initiatives from rivals
Microsoft Corp. and IBM.
The advancements are also the latest indicator
of how seriously software developers and manufacturers take the issue of
security, according to experts.
"It's easier to use security as a selling
point in an OS than in an individual security product," said Pete Lindstrom,
an analyst at Spire Security LLC, in Malvern, Pa. "This is a shot against the
growing discontent with security as well as against [Microsoft's] NGSCB
[Next-Generation Secure Computing Base]."
To incorporate some of the new security
features in Solaris 10, which is due in the fourth quarter, Sun engineers
rewrote portions of the Solaris kernel. The move, said company officials in
Santa Clara, Calif., will likely prevent competitors from being able to
replicate those features.
Most of the enhancements due in the operating
system are designed to prevent users from escalating privileges or to halt
malicious behavior before it leads to a compromise or data loss.
Among the biggest improvements is the addition
of Solaris N1 Grid Containers, a technology that lets administrators create
virtual instances of Solaris within running versions of the operating system.
The instances share common features and capabilities, but each acts as its
own copy, complete with an independent naming service.
Even if an administrator has a root account on
one instance, known as a zone, he or she won't be able to affect other zones,
which limits the damage attackers can do if they obtain root access, Sun
officials said. Customers will have the option of installing a stripped-down
Solaris 10 with no network services or interfaces available. Users can then
turn on whatever they choose.
Sun has also added a technology known as
process rights management to Solaris 10. Lifted from Sun's military-grade,
hardened Trusted Solaris operating system, this concept implements the
principle of least privilege, which is common on many sensitive systems.
By assigning each user account and process the
lowest level of privileges needed to complete a given task, the technology is
able to restrict what actions even highly privileged users can take. For
example, a Web server can be bound directly to port 80, preventing it from
being used for other purposes by an attacker.
On the services side, Sun is partnering with
VeriSign, of Mountain View, Calif., to offer vulnerability assessment, threat
monitoring and 24-hour network security management, according to Sun
officials. The offerings will be based on VeriSign's Intelligence and Control
Services.
The changes to Solaris are significant, given
Sun's wide lead in the enterprise Unix market. In the third quarter of last
year, the company shipped nearly 77,000 copies of Solaris. Hewlett-Packard
Co. shipped about 31,000 copies of its version of Unix, while IBM sold 27,000
copies of Unix, according to numbers compiled by market researcher IDC, of
Framingham, Mass.
Red
Hat Buys Netscape Server Software from AOL (LinuxWorld). The two products
Red Hat's picking up include Netscape Directory Server, a LDAP server for
storing user profiles, policies, and application settings; and Netscape
Certificate Management System, a digital certificate-based authentication
system.
Red Hat announced yesterday, at its analyst day in New York, the
acquisition of Netscape server software, from America Online.
AOL has owned the software since 1998, when it bought the Netscape property.
The move is a means for Red Hat to broaden its horizons beyond its core Linux
operating system. The company will release Netscape Enterprise Suite as
open source code. While specific licensing terms are not yet known,
Red Hat's intent is to use the GNU General Public License (GPL)..
Netscape had tried, but failed, to use open source tactics to fend off
competition from Microsoft's Internet Explorer, when it released the source
code of its namesake browser. Netscape kept its server software, which Red
Hat purchased for a reported $20.5 million, as a proprietary asset.
Red Hat's CEO Matthew Szulik said he feels there is sufficient support
within the open source community to breath life into the browser. To some
analysts, the decision to purchase the server is confounding. Joe Keller,
vice president of application and development at Sun, said, "They're
buying antique software. They used to find the best open source and bring
that forward. Now they're buying the oldest of commercial software and making
it open source."
Szulik disagrees, pointing out that when Netscape released the source code
in 1998, development of the server software continued. Part of AOL's
acquisition included a team of about 50 programmers. Szulik further
noted that the directory software is included in Hewlett-Packard's Server
Suite for UNIX. Red Hat's acquisition includes both Netscape Directory and
Certificate Server.
Ultimately the price of Red Hat Enterprise Linux will rise because of the
purchase. Red Hat will be incorporating its newly acquired software into its
current line-up of products. Szulik said the new acquisition will enable the
company to, "achieve deeper penetration into the enterprise and government
market."
Sun currently employs Netscape technology that it acquired as a provision
of AOL's Netscape purchase dating back to 1998. Parts of Netscape's
intellectual property have found their way into several of Sun's open source
development platforms, including Sun Open Network Environment and Java
Enterprise System.
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Boston.com - Business - At peace with Microsoft, Sun chief whips off the gloves
over Red Hat
By Hiawatha Bray, Globe
Staff |
October 2, 2004
Sun Microsystems Inc.'s combative
chief executive, Scott McNealy, fresh from resolving his long-running quarrel
with archrival
Microsoft Corp., has found a new target for his wrath: Linux software
maker
Red Hat Inc.
''We love Linux," said McNealy at yesterday's
meeting of the Massachusetts Telecommunications Council in Newton. ''We just
don't love Red Hat."
Sun Microsystems was one of the dominant
computer companies of the late-1990s Internet boom. But it has lost nearly
$4.5 billion over the past three years, hammered by an industrywide slump and
growing competition from Linux.
Most Sun computers run Solaris, the company's
own version of the high-powered Unix operating system. But many Solaris users
have been moving to Linux to save money. Linux is an ''open source" operating
system that was created by a worldwide network of volunteers and can be
modified by those who use it. Linux, like other open-source products, can be
obtained free of charge.
But McNealy says switching to Red Hat Linux is
a false economy. Even though Linux itself is free, Red Hat charges high
prices for customer service and support. ''You can run Solaris for 20 to 30
percent of the cost of 'free,' " McNealy said.
McNealy stressed that Linux wasn't the enemy.
He noted that Sun is one of the leading contributors of free software to
open-source projects, that Sun sells computers equipped with Linux, and that
the company plans to release the next version of Solaris as an open-source
product. ''Open source is not a threat," he said, just Red Hat. ''They're a
competitor," McNealy said, ''and we're going to blow them out of the water if
we can."
Earlier Sun crusades haven't worked out so
well. During the 1990s, McNealy vowed that Sun's Java computing technology
would eventually render Microsoft Windows obsolete. Later, Microsoft licensed
Java, but made modifications to the code that Sun considered illegal. That
began a lengthy series of contract and antitrust lawsuits.
This year, Sun mended fences with Microsoft,
which paid Sun nearly $2 billion to settle their disputes. Now the two
companies have formed a technology alliance aimed at ensuring their products
work well together. During his talk, McNealy flashed an image of himself and
Microsoft chief Steve Ballmer laughing together like old friends. ''There's a
scene you probably never thought you'd see," McNealy quipped.
Still, McNealy, once famous for his
anti-Microsoft insults, couldn't resist taking a few more jabs at the
Redmond, Wash., giant. At one point, he referred to Microsoft's popular
e-mail program Outlook as ''Lookout," because of its vulnerability to
computer viruses.
Hiawatha Bray can
be reached at bray@globe.com.
Linux Today -
Boston Globe At Peace with Microsoft, Sun Chief Whips Off the Gloves over Red
Hat
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Hmmm Let me see...
Who was involved with Linux from the earlier days... RH
Who GPLS all of their code....RH
Who would NOT be involved with OSS if they did not have to be Hmmm SUN
No brainer if it comes to supporting RH or SUN
Sun will lose
.
Those are valid points. So are these ones:
Who has the longest history of open standards?... Sun.
Who has contributed the most code to open source?... Sun.
Who has done the most to stop MS?... Sun.
.
Remember that Sun has contributed more code to open source than any other
entity except possibly UC Berkley.
.
I don't love either Sun or RH. Both are big companies who care about money
first. RH has a history of breaking compatibility with the rest of the
Linux community. I resent that. Sun is inconsistent and it lacks a clear
vision.
.
The comment about RH being expensive is accurate. Over here we use
Solaris, and we are planning a migration to Linux. We looked at RH, and it
turned out we wouldn't be any better off with them. Even if you account
for the cheaper Intel hardware. So we'll look at some other distribution,
or perhaps develop in-house.
.
In any event, I don't like the idea of choosing the lesser of two evils.
If I were to purchase Linux desktops from someone, it would not be JDS or
RH. I think I'd pick Mandrake.
.
Cheers,
Daniel Carrera.
OpenOffice.org volunteer. |
Slashdot Solaris vs Linux Continues raffe writes
"Solaris Kernel Developer Eric Schrock is bloging more about the
Solaris vs. Linux issue and linux kernel moneky Greg is answering
on
his blog. Eric's first part is
is also still up and
Greg's
answer " Another reader also
submitted reviews of the Linux desktop vs.
Solaris 9.
User reviews are welcome; please note that ITMJ is
part of OSTG like Slashdot.
Why (Score:4, Insightful)
by Second_Derivative
(257815) on Monday September 27, @12:43PM (#10363667)
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Because the Sun guy actually makes coherent and valid points whereas
this guy says a load of what is essentially meaningless cheer-leading? I
think you'll find a lot of businesses like to have a reasonable degree of
reliability in their servers. Telling people to get stuffed when ReiserFS
decides to randomly shit the bed and completely annihilate your business
data won't impress many people (it's done this several times for me on
MAINLINE KERNELS, there is absolutely NO excuse for that. Don't tell me to
send in dumps and patches, mainline means "this does not NEED debugging
and is safe to use", period). I'm not talking running a major financial
institution or a nuclear power plant here, I'm talking about being
reasonably sure th a br>
That's just filesystems. Once upon a time Linux was really great because
it was amazingly robust, small, fast and elegant. Today we have frequent
kernel panics and X server flakiness, gigantic frameworks for desktop
environments and gigabyte sized base installs. I suppose I can forgive
flaky and sometimes limited support for exotic hardware because PCs are
really complicated beasts these days, and a lot of hardware manufacturers
are incredibly pig headed about these things but it would really be nice
to have my two year old laptop actually wake up from ACPI sleep. No it's
not a DSDT error. No I do not want to use Software Suspend because it is a
hack. Nevermind the fact that it takes 5 minutes (as in around 300
seconds) to suspend on a 1GB swap with 256MB of RAM and several minutes to
wake up again.
Linux sucks, get over it. Yes I use it, that's because everything else
sucks more. |
Solaris is superior to Linux in many ways (Score:5,
Informative)
by Serveert (102805) on Monday
September 27, @12:23PM (#10363424)
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I have used Linux for years but I've also used Solaris. Solaris is
simply more reliable and more fault tolerant hardware-wise. It's a fact
and as Solaris is opened up and more people become aware of it, it will be
obvious. Linux is a great OS and works wonders but it's not up to Solaris
standards in many ways. Likewise, Solaris isn't as widely used as linux
and doesn't support nearly as many peripherals and isn't as good on the
desktop.
That said, Sun's cash cow or former cash cow was its hardware not
software. Solaris was a nice OS that was icing on the cake. Now that their
cash cow is gone, their emphasis will be on Solaris but there's less
revenue here. I hope they go bankrupt and GPL solaris personally.
:)
The rebuttal wasn't a rebuttal either. It didn't mention kgdb which allows
you to debug kernels using source code.. it can also work with UML
kernels. Also the rebuttal didn't address the points raised:
Reliability - Reliability is more than just "we're more stable than
Windows." We need to be reliable in the face of hardware failure and
service failure. If I get an uncorrectable error on a user process page,
predictive self healing can re-start the service without rebooting the
machine and without risking memory corruption. Fault Management
Architecture can offline CPUs in reponse to hardware errors and retire
pages based on the frequency of correctable errors. ZFS provides complete
end-to-end checksums, capable of detecting phantom writes and firmware
bugs, and automatically repair bad data without affecting the application.
The service management facility can ensure that transient application
failures do not result in a loss of availability.
Serviceability - When things go wrong (and trust me, they will go wrong),
we need to be able to solve the problem in as little time as possible with
the lowest cost to the customer and Sun. If the kernel crashes, we get a
concise file that customers can send to support without having to
reproduce the problem on an instrumented kernel or instruct support how to
recreate my production environment. With the fault management
architecture, an administrator can walk up to any Solaris machine, type a
single command, and see a history of all faulty components in the system,
when and how they were repaired, and the severity of the problems. All
hardware failures are linked to an online knowledge base with recommended
repair procedures and best practices. With ZFS, disks exhibiting
questionable data integrity can automatically be removed from storage
pools without interruption of normal service to prevent outright failure.
Dynamic reconfiguration allows entire CPU boards can be removed from the
system without rebooting.
Observability - DTrace allows real-world administrators (not kernel
developers) to see exactly what is happening on their system, tracing
arbitrary data from user applications and the kernel, aggregating it and
coordinating with disjoint events. With kmdb, developers can examine the
static state of the kernel, step through kernel functions, and modify
kernel memory. Commands like trapstat provide hardware trap statistics,
and CPU event counters can be used to gather hardware-assisted profiling
data via libcpc.
Resource management - With Solaris resource management, users can control
memory and CPU shares, IPC tunables, and a variety of other constraints on
a per-process basis. Processes can be grouped into tasks to allow easy
management of a class of applications. Zones allow a system to be
partitioned and administrated from a central location, dividing the same
physical resources amongst OS-like instances. With process rights
management, users can be given individual privileges to manage privileged
resources without having to have full root access.
And of course windows is but a Play Thing.
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Re:Solaris is superior to Linux in many ways (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 27, @01:02PM (#10363860)
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Solaris isn't as widely used as linux and doesn't support nearly as
many peripherals and isn't as good on the desktop.
That's right. The place of Linux is the DESKTOP. Stupid Readhat PHBs
capitilized on Sun's stupidity when they dropped the x86 server market.
Now it seems, Redhat can see no other life for themselves but the Sun
customers switching to Linux. Sun ain't going to give them up though.
Silly Redhat should persue the desktop and small server space. They can't
compete with Solaris on the real servers. Readhat is the problem, not Sun.
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Solaris is where it is today because of Linux. (Score:0)
by cphenry (204895) on Monday
September 27, @12:31PM (#10363505)
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I found it interesting that almost all of the Solaris features that
Eric used to back his arguement are new. It looks like Solaris 10 will
probably kick ass, in part due to many of the features that Eric
mentioned, such as dtrace, zones and zfs. That said, would those features
even exist if Linux hadn't appeared on the scene? I think Sun was resting
on its laurels in the mid to late 90s. They were in a position of pretty
much dominating the data center UNIX market, and it wasn't until Linux
scared the daylights out of them that this started to change.
I'm looking forward to working with Solaris 10, but I have no doubt that
half the reason it's as good as it will be is because of linux. |
This article was published in Computer Sweden - Ski resort company abandons
Linux
Ski resort company abandons Linux
Sälen-based Skistar first Nordic
company to deploy
Oracle 9i RAC
Snow safety. Skistar's new system won't
guarantee snow but higher availability. | </
Sleeps soundly. Anders Beronius gets a good night's sleep. He rests
assured that his booking system is crunching away.
Cluster machine. Skistar's entire booking system is based on two Sun
Fire V480R with twin processors. |
By: Anders Nordner
Translation by: Anders Lotsson
IN PRACTICE
Oracle's committed support
organization for its Linux customers wasn't good enough for Skistar. The
company went for Linux in mid-2001, but now it's switching to Solaris. At the
same time, Skistar's Oracle 8 database is replaced with Oracle 9i Real
Application Cluster. When Skistar, then still called Sälenstjärnan,
deployed a new system in May 2001, it was based on Oracle 8 and Linux. The
company chose Linux because it offered better performance and higher
stability than NT (see Computer Sweden, May 25th, 2001). Cost was another
factor. "If there are two solutions that work perfectly, we'll get the one
that's free," Anders Beronius, IT director of Skistar's ski resorts in Sälen
said then. Now the company has replaced Linux with Sun Solaris. And the
Oracle 8 failover configuration is replaced with the cluster version of
Oracle 9i RAC. This makes the company a Nordic pioneer of that type of
cluster installations.
Couldn't handle emergencies
"We switched from Linux because it was
difficult to solve emergencies using Linux," says Anders Beronius.
Running Oracle on top of Linux turned out to be almost untried. There is
limited competence in that type of system. Also, the company needed to
increase scalability and improve performance even more.
The booking systems that the system is running are at the core of
Skistar's business. That is where hotels, lift tickets, cottages and
everything related to the business are booked.
Always available
"Availability is the top priority. The system must never fail," says Anders
Beronius.
Availability is expected to be achieved by means of the cluster
installation. The system runs on a pair of Sun Fire V480R machines located in
Sälen.
"Competence in Sun products is significantly easier to get hold of than
Linux competence. Linux may be cheaper, but you can hold Sun responsible for
any Solaris problems", says Anders Beronius.
The cluster installation provides reliability, he says.
"Now, we don't have a so-called single point of failure any more", says
Anders Beronius, IT director of Skistar.
Sun Microsystems seeks to avoid oblivion by pursuing a simple but powerful
strategy.
Its plan? Attack Red Hat, use control over the operating system and the
platform to disrupt competitors' pricing and business models, out-engineer
everybody in the x86 space and use an alliance with Microsoft to fight a common
enemy: IBM.
Last week in California, I visited two Sun bigwigs:
Jonathan Schwartz, president and chief operating officer, and
Scott McNealy, chairman and CEO. When Schwartz asked me, "What do you think
of Sun?" I gave him an honest answer. "Sun risks becoming the data general of
the decade. The company could easily slide toward becoming a 'zombie'--a lot of
cash but no life, staggering and lurching with a fading heartbeat at each step,"
I said.
Schwartz's comeback was, "You're wrong, and here's why." He then laid out the
surprisingly simple and cohesive strategy that Sun will follow in pursuit of a
recovery. Here it is, in a stripped-down form.
Linux is like every other operating system; it's about the foibles, greed,
mistakes and engineering prowess (or lack thereof) of one vendor--in this
case, Red Hat.
If Sun goes down, it's going to go down taking very big swings.
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Sun's novel idea ZDNet Australia Insight Software
The company's desperate attempt to regain
its footing has reached new heights. Jonathan Schwartz, Sun's chief
operating officer, has gone public with his latest idea -- to
buy Novell for its Linux business.
The justification? If Sun acquires Novell,
IBM's Linux strategy would be in disarray.
Last year, Novell outbid Sun to purchase
SuSE Linux for US$210 million, with IBM making a $50 million investment in
Novell.
Schwartz believes that IBM will
increasingly push SuSE as the preferred Linux platform at the expense of
its partner, Red Hat.
In a
blog posting,
he said IBM "is in a real pickle". To him, Red Hat's dominance
"leaves IBM almost entirely dependent upon SuSE/Novell" and "whoever owns
Novell controls the OS on which IBM's future depends."
Sun could have bought SuSE last November
but was outmanoeuvred by Novell, which has a current market capitalisation
of $2.6 billion. Is Sun now compensating for its folly?
"If you're an IBM customer, you've
probably received (or should prepare to receive) the pitch from IBM
incenting you to move off Red Hat to SuSE -- it's clear they're worried
that Red Hat's lock on customers is divorcing IBM from their customer
relationships," Schwartz said.
His entire thought process is pretty
myopic.
IBM is simply doing what every big business
does -- executing what I define as a "promiscuous plot". Get into bed with
as many partners as you can, keep them happy and reap the rewards. Doesn't
Schwartz see it?
Big Blue long realised that in order to win
the mindshare of the open source community, it has to play with everyone
and play nice. Well, maybe not everyone but you know what I mean.
Sun is trying very hard to diversify and
shed its "pure Unix shop" image. Buying a Linux company might improve
matters but instead of Novell, perhaps a more viable option would be
Mandrakesoft.
Mandrakesoft, which survived bankruptcy,
shares one thing in common with Sun -- it hopes to see Linux-based
computers in the mainstream. In France, a month-long project is underway
with retail giant Carrefour to sell computers equipped with the
Mandrakelinux operating system. In the US, Wal-Mart sells computers
running on Linux, including Sun's version.
And so the struggle to re-invent itself
continues. Sun's share price hovers around the $3.80 mark, thousands of
employees have been laid off over the last few years, and its market share
is dwindling.
To Microsoft, Linux has become more of a
threat than Unix. And this is bad news to Sun -- when you become
irrelevant to your competitor, you're virtually doomed.
Sun has an excellent research, development
and engineering history, and the gift of Java has had an immeasurable
impact on the computing industry. But as it attempts to confront its
demons, Schwartz's impetuous announcement will surely ruffle some feathers
within the company.
Well, empty vessels do make the loudest
noise. Maybe it's time for Sun to take a step back and develop a proper
vision and strategy instead of shooting from the hip.
Who'll Buy Novell First,
Sun or IBM (LinuxWorld)
"With our balance sheet," Schwartz said in an interview on Sunday, "we're
considering all our options."
"What would owning the operating system on which IBM is dependent be
worth?" he continued, going on to add a comment that has already unleashed
considerable resentment and disbelief here among the Linux faithful in San
Francisco: "History would suggest we look to Microsoft for comparisons,"
Schwartz remarked.
What the open source community is asking is whether Sun is perhaps just
playing footsie with such an acquisition idea in order to steal the thunder
from Novell's highly successful SUSE Linux distro. Certainly Sun's own
Linux-based
Java Desktop System, reviewed
recently at
LinuxWorld.com, will get a huge publicity
boost.
But what is the true story? Is Sun genuinely considering such an
acquisition?
The answer to that, undeniably, is yes. As befits a major public
company with a long history in the technology industry - cash and marketable
securities of $7.61 billion, according to the latest figures - Sun is in good
financial health, balance sheet wise. It has deep pockets right now. As such
it has every right to be looking at acquisitions, and Novell's market cap of
$2.64 billion based on July 30 figures puts it within range.
But the likely real story is that Sun is horrified at the thought that
someone else might buy Novell. Especially if that someone else
turned out to be IBM.
"IBM is in a real pickle," Schwartz wrote yesterday in his increasingly
widely read
blog. "Red Hat's dominance leaves IBM almost
entirely dependent upon SUSE/Novell. Whoever owns Novell controls the OS on
which IBM's future depends. Now that's an interesting thought, isn't it?"
The Schwartz blog continued:
"But if IBM preemptively acquires Novell/SUSE, the world changes: Linux
enters the product portfolio of a patent litigator not known for being a
social-movement company.
But where else will IBM go? With its current market cap, Red Hat seems
unacquirable - but absent action, IBM's core customers will be eroded by
Red Hat's leverage. And Sun's ability to leverage our
open Solaris platform
(on industry standard AMD, Intel or SPARC), or
Java Enterprise System,
even on
IBM's hardware,
gives us a significant - and sustainable - competitive advantage. With the
demise of AIX,
IBM is once again vulnerable."
"I'd keep a close eye on the Novell/SUSE conversation," Schwartz
concludes. "If IBM acquires them, the community outrage and customer
disaffection is going to be epic... but where else does IBM go?"
Meantime here at LinuxWorld, Sun will today announce availability of its
Sun Studio 9 IDE, with C/C++ tools for building applications on Sparc, Xeon,
and Opteron, and for Java Desktop System (JDS) 2003, SUSE LINUX Enterprise
Server 8, and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3, and will demonstrate its "SunRay"
server software running natively on Linux.
It remains to be seen what visitors to LinuxWorld will make of the fact
that the Novell and the Sun exhibit booths are just a stone's throw from one
another in the Moscone Center here in San Francisco.
BW Online July 26, 2004 Sun A CEO's Last Stand
Sun: A CEO's Last Stand
{ } deck-->scott mcnealy knows he made many
mistakes. is it too late to recover?{ } /deck-->
{ } STORY-->Talk with
ever-voluble Sun Microsystems Inc. (SUNW
) CEO Scott McNealy, and you may hear one of his favorite quips:
"Conventional wisdom doesn't contain a whole lot of wisdom." He believes
it because of his own experience. Consider 1995: All of Sun's competitors
-- Hewlett-Packard (HPQ
), IBM (IBM ), and
Digital Equipment Corp. -- were busy developing new servers to run the
next version of Microsoft Corp.'s Windows software. Wall Street pundits
begged McNealy to show some common sense and do the same. But he refused,
instead cranking up his investment in Sun's own software, called Solaris.
What happened next made McNealy look brilliant. Rivals couldn't match the
speed, reliability, and security of Sun's servers. As the tech boom took
off, Sun's boxes became the must-have gear for thousands of Internet
startups and financial firms. Sales soared; profits exploded.
Six years later, as the boom of the late 1990s came to a crashing end,
Wall Street had more advice for McNealy: Batten down the hatches for the
storm ahead; slash research; lay off staffers; and get serious about
low-cost products. Once again, McNealy held his ground. But this time, he
was dreadfully wrong. Sun's sales have tumbled 48% in the past three
years, it has lost a third of its market share -- and it continues to head
south even as its rivals ride the economic recovery. Its stock, which
reached $64 in 2000, trades at about $4. No other major player has been
weakened as much during the tech downturn. "Right now it looks pretty
grim," says Geoffrey A. Moore, author of several tech-industry books,
including Crossing the Chasm.
It's a classic management tragedy, and to a striking degree the
responsibility lies with the 49-year-old McNealy. His greatest strengths
-- the uncompromising determination, sharp-tongued irreverence, and
unblushing idealism -- turned out to be critical flaws. Through interviews
with 38 current and former Sun executives, including nine departees on the
record, BusinessWeek has learned that as Sun's situation
deteriorated, McNealy was bucking not just the counsel of outsiders but
also that of his own lieutenants. After the tech industry went into its
long slide in late 2000, virtually his entire management team, including
Chief Scientist Bill Joy and President Edward J. Zander, pleaded with
McNealy to scale back his vision and adjust to meaner times.
Time and again, McNealy refused. An economics major during his days at
Harvard University, he was convinced that the economy would snap back
quickly from its slump, insiders say. Plus, he believed that the Net was
so critical to companies that they couldn't hold off buying gear for long.
"The Internet is still wildly underhyped, underutilized, and
underimplemented," he said in early 2001. "I think we're looking at the
largest equipment business in the history of anything. The growth
opportunities are stunning." Preparing for the next upturn, he felt, was
much more important than whittling expenses for a brief lull.
"I'M NOT GOING AWAY"
As the tech wreck went from bad to worse, McNealy's contrarian instincts
kicked in. After all, he had been right to ignore the consensus within
Sun's ranks before. In the 1980s, he overruled execs who were skittish
about dropping Motorola Inc.'s microprocessors for chips developed by Sun
-- a move that paid off in a big way. This time, as his team urged him to
cut back, he felt the stakes were even higher. He was determined to fight
off what he thought were short-term thinkers, particularly on Wall Street,
so that Sun could be preserved as an innovative force. Although he had
thought about quitting during the boom, McNealy recommitted himself to Sun
in late 2001, convinced that his credibility, experience, and sheer nerve
were what the company needed during its darkest days. "I'm here, and I'm
not going away. This is a really tough situation, and we're going to get
through this," he told staffers at the time, according to former Executive
Vice-President Larry Hambly.
It would be nice to think that McNealy was doing the right thing. After
all, here was a chief executive who was taking the heat to protect his
employees, fund R&D, and plan for the long term. Alas, it was not to be.
He badly underestimated the severity of the downturn and dismissed
customers' desire for low-end servers. As time wore on, the losses piled
up, and McNealy's high-minded resolve began to look to others like
simple-minded obstinacy. One by one, his team lost faith and departed. All
told, almost a dozen of McNealy's most trusted lieutenants have left over
the past three years, including Zander, Joy, and John Shoemaker, chief of
the server business. Like many others, Masood Jabbar, Sun's longtime sales
chief who retired in 2002, says he admires McNealy's courage. But the
standoff became counterproductive. "The fight just didn't seem worth it
anymore," says Jabbar. "It was an untenable situation."
Now some investors believe it's time for McNealy to follow his former
execs out the door, or at least give up the CEO post and retain only a
chairman's role. Says analyst Andrew Neff of Bear, Stearns & Co. (BSC
): "It's pretty standard that if the ship keeps going toward the iceberg,
you change the captain."
But this captain likely will remain at the helm for the foreseeable
future. Two Sun directors who agreed to interviews for this article, M.
Kenneth Oshman and Naomi O. Seligman, say the board is squarely behind
McNealy. "There's no plan for Scott to step down. I think we've got a
great leader," says Oshman, CEO of networking player Echelon Corp. (ELON
).
As for McNealy, he says he still has what it takes to bring Sun back.
"Maybe it's time to get rid of me," he says. "But this company has a lot
invested in training and developing me. I have 20 years' experience. I'm
49 years old. I'm in good shape. Healthy. Lot of energy. Lot of wisdom.
Relationships around the world." He seems remarkably unperturbed by the
withering criticism of the past few years. Although he admits to some
mistakes, he's just as acerbic and cocky as ever. He's not prone to
self-doubt, or even much self-reflection. "I don't do feelings," he has
said. "I'll leave that to Barry Manilow."
Instead, McNealy is focused on turning Sun around with what he calls
"disruptive innovation," the same approach that has saved it so many times
before. While most rivals make plain-vanilla computers and slug it out on
price, Sun's plan is to change the rules of the game. At the high end of
the server market, Sun is developing "throughput computing" chips that can
handle dozens of tasks at the same time. At the low end, Sun servers built
around Advanced Micro Devices Inc.'s (AMD
) inexpensive chips will handle not only processing tasks but also the
basic networking that rivals' boxes can't. And its pricing approach is
something no server company has dared try before: It's planning to give
away low-end servers to customers that agree to buy its software for
several years. "We have a maverick strategy," says McNealy. "I think
there's a huge opportunity right now."
He insists that concerns about Sun's future are vastly overblown. He
points out that unit sales of the company's servers have risen more than
20% in each of the past three quarters. Despite huge write-offs, Sun has
$7.5 billion in cash and investments, including nearly $2 billion from a
landmark settlement with Microsoft in April. And he pledges that he's
getting serious about whacking away at Sun's bloated costs, having laid
off 28% of his workforce in three rounds.
While McNealy's plan may look good on paper, it will be difficult to pull
off. The new strategy calls for Sun to move in two directions at once:
build bare-bones servers while also inventing cutting-edge technologies.
Those are diametrically opposed pursuits, like trying to be Wal-Mart (WMT
) and Gucci (GUC ) at the
same time. McNealy contends that Sun is more focused than major rivals.
Dell Inc. (DELL ), for
instance, sells printers and digital music players, while IBM gets half
its revenues from services. "We're not doing digital cameras. We're not
doing printers," says McNealy. "We're fundamentally focused, much more so
than any company I see out there."
NO WAY OUT?
But Sun's competitors are focused in other, potent, ways. Dell
concentrates on efficiency and low costs, spending a mere 2% of sales on
R&D. That'll cause trouble in basic hardware for Sun, which invests 17% in
R&D. At the same time, Sun will struggle to out-innovate larger, and
deeper-pocketed, rivals such as IBM. And Sun's track record of
diversification is lousy. The reality is that every major initiative to
move beyond high-end servers over the past decade has failed. "Scott's a
smart guy, but I don't see a way out for Sun," says Kevin B. Rollins,
chief executive of Dell. "Will they disappear? No. But most of the
customers we talk to are looking for reasons to use less of their
products."
THE JAVA FIX
The bottom line is that McNealy's moves probably come too late to
resurrect the icon-turned-also-ran. When the company reports earnings for
the fourth fiscal quarter on July 20, analysts expect slight improvements,
including stronger low-end sales and narrower losses, excluding special
charges. But revenues are forecast to be about 5% below the year-earlier
quarter. And for the fiscal year ended June 30, analysts expect revenues
to have slipped 4%, to $11 billion, and net losses to have hit $1.2
billion, excluding any gain from the Microsoft settlement. Most industry
experts expect larger and stronger competitors, including ibm, Dell, and
Hewlett-Packard, to continue making off with blue-chip customers,
relegating Sun -- and McNealy -- to side stage. "Scott is kind of like
Moses," says Paul Saffo, director of the Institute for the Future, a Menlo
Park (Calif.) think tank. "[He] led the world to the land of milk and
honey, but he got left behind."
McNealy's willingness to buck popular opinion dates back to his days
growing up outside Detroit. His father was vice-chairman of American
Motors Corp., and Scott was an accomplished kid -- honors student,
standout clarinetist, captain of the tennis team. One summer, he worked in
an auto-parts factory. When the United Auto Workers at the plant went on
strike, McNealy didn't think twice about crossing the picket lines --
despite bomb threats and jeers from angry union members. "It seemed
incredibly stupid," he said. "I couldn't see how highly paid uaw workers
were helping their cause" by losing the company money.
He didn't rush to Wall Street or a tech giant after getting his MBA from
Stanford, either. Instead, after "majoring in beer and golf," as he
describes it, he helped found Sun in 1982, taking on the workaday
manufacturing duties, while Joy and others cooked up the sizzling
technology. After being named CEO in 1984, McNealy quickly showed a bent
for making brash bets to stave off disaster. Boosting investments in Sun's
Solaris software in 1995 was the boldest. Then, as the Net boom began,
McNealy helped turn Java into Sun's own tsunami. Because Java makes
it possible to write Net programs that run on any kind of hardware,
developers jumped on the bandwagon, seeding the market for Sun's gear.
The result was a frenzy of sales. By 2000, Sun was turning in scorching
growth of 50% a quarter -- faster than Microsoft (MSFT
), Intel (INTC ), or
Dell. It racked up gaudy profits, nearly $2 billion in 2000. For that
short-lived era when quality was an imperative and price was no concern,
Sun ruled.
But Sun's success laid the seeds for the trouble that would follow. The
company poured billions into R&D for a mind-numbing galaxy of projects --
from UltraSPARC chips for closet-size servers to software for smart credit
cards. Sun hired 7,000 new staffers in the year ending July, 2001, and
opened a 600,000-square-foot headquarters in a refurbished 19th century
mental-health facility.
Even inside Sun, though, McNealy was repeatedly warned about the company's
"soft underbelly." Three insiders recall a planning session in 1997, when
several engineers made a presentation about the increasing power of
low-cost chips from Intel. Gene Banman, an exec who had just returned from
running Sun's business in Japan, argued that Sun could get a chip from
Intel for 30% less than it cost Sun to make an equally powerful SPARC
chip. Chet Silvestri, who ran chip design, shot back that his staff would
never let that happen. After a 20-minute debate, McNealy put an end to the
meeting. "I don't see the problem here," he said, according to one
insider. Then he laid down his orders: For the time being, no Sun
computers would have Intel inside. Today, Intel's processors are twice as
fast as SPARC chips, and McNealy admits that his biggest regret is "not
putting Solaris on [Intel's chips] six or seven years ago."
Instead, McNealy continued to insist that Sun rely on its own innovation.
A classic example was the September, 2000, purchase of Cobalt Networks
Inc. By this time many Sun customers were asking Sun for cheaper servers
based on Intel chips and Linux, the increasingly popular open-source
software. Zander persuaded Sun's board to O.K. the $2 billion acquisition
of Cobalt, which had figured out how to make hefty 51% margins selling
specialized "Lintel" servers costing just $1,500. With the help of Sun's
8,000 salespeople, Zander felt he could turbocharge Cobalt's sales and
learn how to compete with commodity products.
It never happened. From the beginning, Cobalt was attacked by the heads of
Sun's old-line server businesses, who didn't want Sun to invest in the
very technology that was threatening their livelihoods. Stephen W. DeWitt,
Cobalt's boyish chief executive, became known derisively as the "$2
billion blond." When it came time to set budgets, Cobalt's was cut
repeatedly, crippling product development. "The work didn't get done,"
says former sales chief Jabbar. "The company religion didn't allow it."
McNealy says the acquisition was a mistake. "There were some other people
who thought it was a good idea, and I trusted them," he says.
Cost-cutting bordered on blasphemy, too. In late 2000, some of McNealy's
top lieutenants began to suggest cutbacks, given that the stock market had
been tumbling since March, and cash-starved dot-coms were imploding. Even
Joy, a devotee of R&D, says he told McNealy to make a bold move. "I
thought we should have cut more sooner," says Joy. "But I could never get
the discussion to go anywhere." Around New Year's Eve, Zander grew
concerned as well. In one meeting with his staff, he said that Cisco
Systems Inc. (CSCO ) CEO
John T. Chambers had told him Cisco was seeing a large drop in revenues.
"Shouldn't we be equally concerned?" he asked the group. "That's when the
serious discussions began," says Hambly, the former executive
vice-president.
They got a lot more serious on Mar. 8, 2001, when Cisco rocked Silicon
Valley by laying off 18% of its workforce. Quickly, Zander's staffers set
down the broad outlines of a plan. The consensus was that Sun should cut
as many as 20% of its employees, more than 10,000. Many also wanted to
jettison the underperforming storage unit and give up on McNealy's hope of
creating a viable alternative to Microsoft's Office. "When times are hard,
you've got to shoot activities that aren't making money," says Shoemaker,
the former server chief.
A DAMAGING EXODUS
McNealy would have none of it. Time and again, Zander would end staff
meetings by saying: "Well, what do you guys want to do?" says a source who
was in the room. As the execs went around the table expressing their
views, it was clear everyone believed in some sort of austerity plan --
except McNealy.
McNealy was convinced that the Internet had fundamentally changed the
nature of the economy. He thought the highs and lows of the business cycle
would be far more extreme and short-lived than in the past, with sharp
spikes up and down. "We don't have rolling waves," he said during a
conference call with analysts in 2001. "We seem to have real edges." If he
was wrong, he promised during one session with his execs, he would "take
the heat" from Wall Street and Sun's board. Today, McNealy declines to
discuss those gatherings in detail but says: "There's a lot of revisionist
history out there."
The executive-suite standoff didn't just cost Sun precious time -- it
contributed to a damaging exodus. That had started the previous September,
say sources, when McNealy and Zander met for their yearly talk about their
personal plans. McNealy had been letting Zander run the show, leading the
second-in-command to believe he might soon get the top job. But McNealy
said he planned to remain CEO for a few more years -- prompting Zander to
decide to move on, ultimately to the CEO post at Motorola Inc. (MOT
). By mid-2002, half of Sun's top-level executives had departed.
As Sun's fortunes waned, customers and insiders, including outspoken
software chief Jonathan I. Schwartz, urged McNealy to change course. A key
step: McNealy needed to drop his long-running, and distracting, feud with
Microsoft. Finally, last June, McNealy says the customer requests won him
over. He swallowed his pride and called Microsoft CEO Steven A. Ballmer.
BILL GATES'S BATHROOM BREAK
Bringing tech's longest-running feud to a close was not without its funny
moments. Microsoft Chairman William H. Gates III visited Sun's
headquarters the week of July 4, when the office was closed. The famous
exec escaped notice, until he and Sun's chief strategist, Mark Tolliver,
went for a bathroom break and ran into a Sun staffer who had come to the
office, dog in tow. "He looked Gates straight in the eye, and he had the
most stunned look on his face," recalls Tolliver. Still, the meeting
stayed secret as negotiations continued over the next few months. Then,
early on the morning of Apr. 2, McNealy and Ballmer announced the
blockbuster deal. Sun would get $1.95 billion in exchange for calling off
two landmark lawsuits. And thanks to a 10-year technology pact, Sun's
servers will be certified to run Windows.
The détente was a public-relations coup, at least temporarily. Sun's
shares jumped 19% during the two days that followed. But internally,
reaction to the day's news was mixed, say insiders. Not only had Sun
racked up a net loss of $750 million for the spring quarter, but McNealy
had named Schwartz to be Sun's new day-to-day chief. Many say that while
he is known for his razor-sharp mind, the ponytailed 38-year-old lacks
experience and alienates employees and customers with his arrogant style.
When McNealy told other executives about Schwartz' promotion the night
before the announcement, the silence on the phone was deafening, according
to former execs.
Today, McNealy is as combative and optimistic as ever. During a series of
interviews, he sketched out bold plans to jump back to the fore of the
server market. Servers based on Sun's throughput computing chips are
expected to hit the market in 2006. Meantime, Sun's experiment with
freebie low-end servers started in June. The idea is that the low-end
servers will open the door for Sun to sell more lucrative software. The
company is selling a package of its e-business software called Java
Enterprise System to corporations for $100 per employee per year -- a
simpler and cheaper alternative to buying from suppliers such as BEA
Systems Inc. (BEAS ) or
IBM.
Still, McNealy faces a hard slog to win back credibility among customers.
For years corporate buyers bought from Sun in part because it seemed to
know where tech was heading. Now, many believe Sun spent several crucial
years with its head in the sand. "They've always had lots of great things
on paper. But when it comes to execution, they're lacking," says Gary
Feierstein, vice-president for information technology at Premier Inc., a
San Diego company that manages 1,500 hospitals. "They always seem to be
behind where they need to be."
Therein lies the true tragedy in Sun's decline. Throughout the company's
history, McNealy's risk-taking spirit resulted in innovative alternatives
to the offerings of giants such as Microsoft and IBM. Unless he pulls off
a longshot turnaround, it may ultimately be a blow to Silicon Valley and
even America's technological prowess.
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DAVID KIRKPATRICK
Why Open Source Doesn't Always Mean Free
Sun Microsystems President Jonathan Schwartz sounds
off on why open source figures into his company’s new strategy.
FORTUNE
Wednesday, June 23, 2004
By David Kirkpatrick
The software wars continue, more dramatically than ever. Sun Microsystems is
in the thick of it, but up to now, not to its advantage. It hasn’t been able to
turn off the tap of red ink. But Sun President Jonathan Schwartz remains a
consummate optimist, as he showed in a detailed e-mail in response to my June 9
column, “Surprised
by the Microsoft-SAP Talks?”
The column dealt with how software is becoming the indisputable center of the
IT industry, and thus a more dynamic arena of competition, acquisition, and
contention. I explained that Schwartz (along with Microsoft Chief Software
Architect Bill Gates) had recently said we were approaching a time when hardware
essentially would be free. Then I wrote the following paragraph:
“Last week Sun made the particularly confusing announcement that it would
soon open the source code to its crown jewel, the Solaris Unix operating system.
Nobody I know can figure out how Sun will make money in a world where hardware
is free and the operating system is given away, but that's what Schwartz said.”
Since open-source software can be used freely by anyone, at least in its raw
form, I didn’t understand how open-sourcing Solaris, which by all accounts is
Sun’s most critical asset, would help the company. Up until now, its revenues
have mostly come from shipping its own hardware running Solaris. It’s an
expensive way to box software—inside the only kind of computer it will run on.
But as we’ll see in a moment, that’s no longer the only thing Sun is doing.
Schwartz, like a few other readers, chides me for misunderstanding the
economics of open source. Yes, the code may be freely available, but in reality
customers need to have someone to call if something goes wrong, someone who will
vouch for the reliability of the particular version of open-source code they
use. This is most true when a company uses an open-source product, like the
increasingly popular Linux operating system, in the core systems on which they
operate their business. As a result, customers are willing to pay someone quite
a bit of money as a service fee or a subscription when they use open source,
which can amount to the same amount or more than they’d pay if they were
“buying” the software.
Schwartz says it’s critical to understand Sun’s revised attitude toward
computers based on x86-based microprocessors from Intel and AMD. Just about
every company is attracted to them because they are very inexpensive. Speaking
of Linux running on x86 three years ago, Schwartz writes, “It was hard not to
love—Solaris didn't run on x86 systems…and Linux was 'free,' as in, ‘you could
use it on any system free of charge.’ It was a tough environment for Sun to
compete in.”
He continues: “Since then, a few changes have made the world a tad different:
Solaris runs on x86. This was the first, and biggest change—we're now qualified
to run on over 200 hardware systems, including those delivered by Dell, HP, and
IBM.”
Moreover, he explains, Sun itself sells inexpensive systems based on x86
hardware from AMD, and has big plans to make them even more powerful.
Then Schwartz launches into the most vituperative part of his letter—where he
takes on Linux leader Red Hat. He correctly points out that Red Hat dominates
the Linux market. “Just look at the numbers,” he writes. “There's only one
viable Linux company out there, especially in the enterprise server arena.” The
companies that sell applications that sit on top of servers, he says, generally
now design their Linux versions around Red Hat’s versions and release schedules.
That makes it hard, he claims, for customers to move to any other version of
Linux.
He goes on: “Red Hat has annoyed customers with their [approach to]
accountability and licensing. While ‘open source is a community asset’ was a
great catch slogan, at the end of the day the banks and trading firms with whom
I meet don't want a community asset—they want a trading system to stay up.
Having Red Hat say, ‘We'll ask someone in the community to fix that,’ is really
angering them… Moreover, given that Red Hat now enforces MANDATORY licensing of
all systems, at upwards of $2,000 a box, they've given us a price umbrella.
Think about that for a moment—‘open source = free software’ is now no longer
true. So for us to think about open-sourcing Solaris is now no longer a
sacrifice to our business model. Red Hat proves we can…even raise prices given
how they're pricing—and build our business. Open source isn't free—it may be
freely available, but when it comes to paying for support, and getting bug fixes
and patches, that's something we know how to do, and how to be paid for.”
Finally, Schwartz insists that Sun has “gotten religion” on open source. He
notes that the company is seeing “volume deployments” of its open-source desktop
software, including the Microsoft Office alternative StarOffice and the desktop
suite Java Desktop System.
His conclusion: “Remember, Bill Joy is the author of the quote: ‘innovation
happens elsewhere.’ We're taking that to heart—and given what we see going on in
the landscape, we know there's opportunity in that shift.”
What Schwartz’s remarks underscore, and what I admittedly hadn’t fully
digested until now, is that open source means something quite different once it
becomes a critical part of the enterprise infrastructure. Companies will pay a
lot to ensure that their backbone systems are properly cared for, regardless of
the development model under which the software was created.
Nothing shows this more than the success of Red Hat. Its revenues for the
fiscal year ended in February rose 39% to $126 million. And while it lost money
the previous year, it made $14 million this time. And growth is accelerating. In
the most recent quarter, ended in May, revenues grew 53%. More important, CEO
Matthew Szulik has made a deft transition to a subscription and support model.
Red Hat’s enterprise subscription revenues are more than doubling annually.
Since the renewal rates of these subscriptions exceed 85%, this is a great
annuity. No wonder Sun wants a piece. In the past year Red Hat’s stock has
roughly tripled, and its market cap stands at $3.7 billion. Not bad for a
company whose product is supposedly free. (Sun’s market cap stands at $14
billion, and its stock is about 20% lower than a year ago.) Perhaps Red Hat will
want to respond to Schwartz in a future column.
The software industry is changing fast. Which company will be transformed
next?
For true geeks, here’s the full text of Schwartz’s note:
“Here's some background on the Solaris discussion:
If you looked at Linux/Intel [note[EMDASH]he means the Linux open source
operating system running on Intel hardware] three years ago, it was hard not to
love—Solaris didn't run on x86 systems (AMD or Intel—which was where the biggest
source of savings arose on small scale systems); and Linux was 'free,' as in you
could use it on any system free of charge. It was a tough environment for Sun to
compete in.
Since then, a few changes have made the world a tad different:
1. Solaris runs on x86. This was the first, and biggest change—we're now
qualified to run on over 200 hardware systems, including those delivered by
Dell, HP, and IBM. Moreover, Sun now ships those very x86 systems (and a
complete lineup, bolstered by the acquisition of Andy Bechtolsheim's company,
Kealia, and John Fowler's Network Systems Group——more on them at some point in
the future).
2. "Linux" has now become Red Hat on servers. Just look at the
numbers—there's only one viable Linux company out there, especially in the
enterprise server arena. It's Red Hat. ISV's almost exclusively qualify to their
distribution of Linux (basically, their assemblage of code and release
dates)—which makes it impossible for customers to move (The ISV's have to agree
to move, and most don't want to support any of the more than 50 "distros" you
can find on www.distrowatch.com).
3. Red Hat has annoyed customers with their [approach to] accountability and
licensing. While ‘open source is a community asset’ was a great catch slogan, at
the end of the day, the banks and trading firms with whom I meet don't want a
community asset—they want a trading system to stay up. Having Red Hat say ‘we'll
ask someone in the community to fix that’ is really angering them—when what they
thought they paid for was Red Hat's support, not email pass thru.
Moreover, given that Red Hat now enforces MANDATORY licensing of all systems,
at upwards of $2,000/box, they've given us a price umbrella. Think about that
for a moment—‘open source = free software’ is now no longer true. So for us to
think about open sourcing Solaris is now no longer a sacrifice to our business
model—Red Hat proves we can price for it, even raise prices given how they're
pricing——and build our business. Open source isn't free—it may be freely
available, but when it comes to paying for support, and getting bug fixes and
patches, that's something we know how to do, and how to be paid for.
4. We've gotten religion. With the volume deployments we're beginning to see
of Open/StarOffice [two open source alternatives to Microsoft Office], of our
Java Desktop System [a desktop suite], and as one of the single largest
contributors to the open source/GPL community (true, just count the lines of
code)—we're figuring it's about time we brought our operating system to a
community model.
Remember, Bill Joy is the author of the quote: ‘innovation happens
elsewhere.’ We're taking that to heart—and given what we see going on in the
landscape, we know there's opportunity in that shift.”
Questions? Comments? E-mail them to me at
dkirkpatrick@fortunemail.com.
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excessive number of discributions
There is a big difference between both (open
source and open standards).
Sun's president and chief operating officer, Jonathan Schwartz
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the other hand, is a sign of flattery. We imitate rivals or competitors.
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Sun recently announced it would open-source
its Solaris operating system. While declining to get specific about
timetables and the type of open-source license the company plans to use,
John Loiacono, executive vice president of Sun's software group, promised
that Sun will "be very aggressive and progressive in our approach." For
now, all we can do is speculate.
There is a widely held assumption that
Sun's motivation is to emulate the Linux phenomenon with Solaris. If we
apply the computer-science principles of emulation to this announcement,
the license (once it is available) will provide considerable hints as to
where Sun is going.
Emulator design is the process of examining
aspects of a system in its native environment and determining which native
aspects are essential, which are undesirable and which "emulator aspects"
should be introduced to further the goals of the emulator designer. A
well-designed emulator removes the undesirable aspects and introduces
emulator aspects not present in the native system, while replicating the
essential aspects as closely as possible.
A tornado simulator is a good example of an
emulator. A well-designed tornado simulator will accurately replicate and
measure airflows -- either in the lab or in a computer model -- that are
found in the tornado's native environment, remove undesirable aspects like
flying houses or cars, and add emulator aspects such as cameras in the eye
of the tornado.
Emulation Design Focus
A good example of computer emulation is my
Palm (Nasdaq: PALM)
OS emulator, which allows me to run Palm OS programs on my PC. The
essential aspects include interaction with a Palm OS database and
presentation of a user interface that replicates the Palm display and
buttons. Undesirable aspects include a requirement that I own each version
of the Palm device I want to emulate. Other emulator aspects include the
ability to monitor variables and step through programs more slowly than
real-time.
Another good example of an emulator is the
SimCity line of computer games, wherein the essential aspects of a town
(layout, citizenry and economy) are replicated while leaving off
undesirable aspects (such as the money, the timescale and the land needed)
and introducing emulated aspects, which includes the ability to put a
whole town in suspended animation while you go to your day job in real
life.
Looking at the differences between the
native system and the emulation features, you can discern the emulator
designer's focus. In SimCity, you cannot insert a tornado or provide eight
types of cream cheese on the bagel shop's menu because that was not
something the SimCity designers focused on. But you can generate a daily
newspaper, emulate a mayoral election and so on.
What does this have to do with Solaris?
Let's assume that Sun wants to emulate the
success of the Linux movement. The terms of the license agreement the
company uses to open source Solaris will indicate what aspects of the
Linux phenomenon the company considers essential, what it sees as
undesirable and what emulator aspects it decided to add.
The Linux phenomenon is more than just the
code. It includes a community, a perception, a market, press coverage,
developer attitudes and corporate attitudes. In essence, it is a brand.
There is more to it than just the wrapper.
Essential Aspects
So what essential aspects of Linux does Sun
want to emulate? First would be widespread use of the code and
considerable mindshare. If Solaris could get half the installed base of
Linux to switch, Sun would succeed beyond everyone's expectations.
To get there, Sun needs open-source terms
that keep everyone talking about Solaris, which would encourage
programmers to tinker with it, create jobs and, most importantly, get
discs to people who would put them in their drives and install the
operating system.
At a minimum, the license would allow
others to tinker freely without Sun's prior permission or oversight.
Of course, Sun could replicate the Linux
phenomenon by just running the native environment and distributing Linux
itself, but then it would not really be emulation. It could not remove the
undesirable aspects and add the emulator aspects.
Undesirable Aspects
We already know that one of the aspects of
Linux that Sun considers undesirable is that it is splintered into several
code forks. We can expect Sun to craft licensing terms that it hopes will
reduce the incidences of code forking.
Another is that Linux is licensed under a
"modified
GPL license." Because the text of the GPL is arguably ambiguous,
the interpretation of the terms by different licensors creates legally
different licenses from the same words. Under the modified GPL license, it
is not clear exactly when a derivative work is created. While this is not
part of the code, it is part of the Linux phenomenon. Sun would likely not
want to replicate this aspect, given the heat that some have -- wisely or
unwisely -- put on the GPL.
If Sun's goal is widespread development for
corporate use, Sun might include licensing terms where downstream
constraints against constraints are not required.
The revenue model also is undesirable.
The original developers do not receive direct remuneration from Linux,
while others, such as RedHat, make significant money. The
developers get speaking engagements, prestigious jobs and the adoration of
fans. But without salaries, these benefits are not aspects of Linux that
Sun would care to emulate.
Emulator Aspects
Sun will undoubtedly add emulator aspects
that provide more control. Expect to see license terms that provide
control over third-party claims, such as third-party, patent-infringement
claims over some elements of Solaris. With the appropriate license terms,
Sun can terminate downstream licenses to specific elements of the code
base to prevent ongoing infringements, or allegations of infringement, of
third-party patents.
Another emulator aspect Sun might want is
an improved provenance, and one that originates with Sun. For instance,
Sun might want license terms that limit an ability to claim that a
distribution is Sun-authorized or that originated with Sun when other code
was added. Sun might also want to include a requirement that added code be
vetted by Sun to make it into an "official" distribution, something that
cannot be entirely accomplished with Linux.
Divining the Emulator's
Intent
So far, we can only guess what Sun is up
to. Once Sun specifies exactly what its open-source license will look
like, we can examine it carefully and extract the company's intent -- what
it believes is essential and undesirable, and what it hopes to add.
To be clear, the license terms only provide
limited insight. Some terms of the Solaris open-source license will derive
not from any emulation paradigm but from the need to reduce risk. Sun also
might want a patent-retribution clause to pull the rug out from under
anyone who might sue them for patent infringement. There is no guarantee
that what Sun has in mind will actually come to pass.
While we can only speculate about Sun's
motivations, it is fair to point out that emulation is a sign of respect.
We emulate mentors, teachers or role models. Imitation, on the other hand,
is a sign of flattery. We imitate rivals or competitors. Perhaps, in the
long run, this distinction will provide all the insight we need into Sun's
decision.
President & C00
Sun Microsystems
Prior to this position, Mr. Schwartz served as executive vice
president of Sun's software group where he was responsible for the
company's software technologies and business. While in this position, he
revolutionized Sun's software strategy with the introduction of the Java
System, an innovative collection of highly integrated software for the
development, deployment and operation of Java technologies. Mr. Schwartz
also re-established Sun on the desktop with launch of the Java Desktop
System which has quickly become the industry's number one desktop
alternative and is responsible for the launch and proliferation of the
popular java.com web properties. These business strategies accelerated
Sun's market leadership for the Solaris Operating environment and the Java
software language and development platform.
In his previous role as chief strategy Officer
for Sun, Mr. Schwartz directed the company's long-range planning and
corporate development activities including mergers and acquisitions and
Sun's venture capital portfolio. He also oversaw strategic initiatives for
the industry, including the Liberty Alliance, an industry alliance to
promote standards around network identity. Previously, Mr. Schwartz headed
Sun's investment group and ran Sun's development tools and Java product
marketing organizations.
Before joining Sun in 1996, Mr. Schwartz
was chief executive officer of Lighthouse Design, Ltd., which Sun
acquired. He began his career as a consultant with McKinsey & Co., Inc.,
serving financial services companies. |
Sun warms to open source for Solaris CNET News.com
SCO trumps
Sun's open source Solaris bid The Register Leaks effects depend upon the
abilities of the leadership of the company to chose the right direction and for
a company with weak leadership they might be the source of considerable
confusion and lost revenue. For example I personally am afraid that after so
many incoherent moves in Linux space Sun again demonstrates the problems within
the company more that any "probing" and thus does not serve their intended
purpose. The main question here is "How the ability of Sun to compete with IBM
in commercial space will be affected by Jonathan Schwartz desire to win some
China government contracts ?" Here Novell's experience might serve as an
additional anxiety factor. Rumors like this might even further alienate
enterprise customers who saw in Solaris 10 the sign that the period of Sun's
flirting with Linux and OSS licensing instead of efforts to improve the Solaris
itself was over. IBM had found its strategy in VM space with the latest AIX able
to run Linux like satellite OS similar to VM/CMS capabilities. Sun now has zones
as an alternative(and attractive) light-weight VM design. Opening OS might
endanger this intellectual property.
SHANGHAI, China--Sun Microsystems
continues its tilt toward the open-source world.
The company's president and chief operating
officer, Jonathan Schwartz, said here Wednesday that Sun plans
to give its proprietary Solaris server operating system an
open-source flavor, but he declined to give a timetable for
the shift.
I don't want to say when that will happen," Schwartz said
in a press conference in conjunction with the company's
SunNetwork conference. "But make no mistake: We will
open-source Solaris."
The declaration is another indication of the
company's grudging acknowledgment of the rising popularity of
open-source software such as Linux, which presents an
opportunity for Sun to undercut rival software maker
Microsoft but also poses a competitive threat to Sun itself.
On the opportunity side, Sun this week
released a
second edition of its Java Desktop System, its version of
Linux for desktop computers, which reproduces some features of
Microsoft Windows.
It was only four months ago, however, that
Schwartz himself suggested that Solaris would
remain within proprietary bounds. "We've been somewhat
unfashionable of late by saying we're not going to throw away
our operating system and run everything on Linux," he said at
an analyst conference in February.
Solaris is not widely used, except on Sun's
UltraSparc chip, but the company has been predicting
recently that Solaris and its accompanying development tools
will be increasingly of interest to developers writing
software for x86 servers--that is, those running more
mainstream processors from Intel and Advanced Micro Devices.
In Shanghai, Schwartz invoked the precedent
set by Sun's popular
Java programming language.
"Look, you only need to look at what we've
done with Java to understand how Sun views the value of
incorporating community feedback," he said. "Java could
not exist if only Sun is supporting it. It exists because
there are hundreds and thousands of partners. We need to now
take the model with Java and bring it to Solaris."
Schwartz declined to say what form the
licensing model for an open-source Solaris would take. He did,
however, point to the way Sun has adjusted its
pricing model for Solaris to a subscription one that is
"significantly less expensive" than that of Microsoft and
Linux software maker
Red Hat.
Sun will be turning up its engagement
level with partners in bringing open-source Solaris to its
users, Schwartz said. The company will "continue to grow the
community in both the open-source and closed-source world," he
said.
A problem that Schwartz wants to avoid is
having Solaris splintered into different distributions like
Linux, which he said creates application incompatibilities.
Going the way of Linux-type licensing, he suggested, creates
open source but not open standards.
"There is a big difference between both
(open source and open standards). There is one Linux company
in the world today that's confusing the two concepts, and that
is Red Hat. And it is very dangerous," Schwartz said.
"They are saying that because they are open
source, they are open standards. But they are losing track of
something that we've always been focused on, which is that
open standards enable substitution, choice and competition.
Customers want to use our application server, or they may want
to use WebSphere, or BEA or a J2EE (Java 2 Enterprise
Edition)-compliant JBoss," he added.
On the subject of a probable licensing model
for the open-source Solaris, John Loiacono, executive vice
president of Sun's software group, said: "We have to consider
what licensing model we use and what levels of free usage we
want. Then we also need to consider if we want to (segment the
licensing model to address) commercial, private and academic
use."
"We are finalizing these things right now.
You'll see that we'll be very aggressive and progressive in
our approach."
Addressing the question of how Sun plans to
make money with an open-source Solaris, Loiacono simply said
Sun doesn't have to rely on only the operating system. "We
have hardware, storage, services and support. What we are
doing is taking that whole thing and selling that whole
thing," he said.
In a keynote address earlier Wednesday,
Schwartz showed off a future Sun desktop operating system
called "Looking
Glass," as he had at another event last September. Among
the notable features were 3D pivoting windows, an extended
desktop and translucent application windows.
Schwartz said the company has shifted its
focus. Instead of adding more features to the operating
system, Sun is focusing on making Looking Glass robust enough
for launch soon, but he declined to give specifics about
Looking Glass' availability.
Ong Boon Kiat of
CNETAsia reported from Shanghai. CNET News.com's Stephen
Shankland contributed to this report.
What Sun Really Wants to Sell in the x86 Market
But after talking with Jack O'Brien, Sun's group manager for x86 operating
system marketing—aka Solaris x86 and Linux—I think Sun has decided to really
support Solaris 86. In short, Solaris x86 will no longer be the red-haired
stepchild of the Solaris family.
When I last spoke with Dan Kusnetzky, IDC's guru of all things operating
system, we agreed that Solaris on Intel had always been a few features short
of Solaris on SPARC.
Your customers would get a taste for Solaris, but then they'd find out
that to really get the most out of it, they'd need to upgrade from Intel to
SPARC systems. That worked for a while, but these days customers—used to the
bottom-line prices of x86 systems and Linux—aren't willing to pony up the
cash for SPARC.
Now, Sun, according to O'Brien, is making sure that Solaris 10 will be
"feature- and bug-compliant" on both the x86 and SPARC platforms. Now, I'm a
show-me kind of guy, and this isn't the first time I've heard similar things
about Solaris x86. But this time, Sun appears to be walking the walk and not
just talking the talk.
One of Solaris' best features has been its clustering support.
Hewlett-Packard Co.'s TruCluster and IBM Corp.'s AIX are fine and dandy, but
I've always really liked the unified view and control that Solaris gave me
over clustering.
It also so happens that this is one of the areas where I think Solaris has
a clear edge over Linux. And this crown jewel of Solaris has never been
available on Solaris x86—until now.
On May 11, Sun made Sun
Cluster 3.1 4/04 available on Solaris x86. OK, so maybe I'm wrong, and
Sun is trying to make Solaris x86 a serious operating system for its
customers and resellers.
Of course, companies don't make their buying decisions based on operating
systems alone. According to Kusnetzky, they usually base their decisions on
either the applications or the infrastructure software (DBMSs and the like)
that they use.
And it seems that Solaris on Intel is making headway here with its ISVs.
For example, Oracle Corp., I'm told, will be bringing Oracle 10G for Solaris
x86 in its next quarter.
Of course, the first place resellers should look for Solaris x86 customers
is in existing Solaris shops. For these users, moving from SPARC to Advanced
Micro Devices Inc.'s Opteron servers will be a no-brainer. Their existing IT
staffs should have no problem running Solaris on either platform.
Where does Linux fit into Sun's plans? According to O'Brien, all other
things being equal at a customer's site, Sun will be pushing Solaris x86.
Enterprise Unix Roundup Solaris x86 Resurgent, Sun's Side of the Story
The rest of the conversation was more or less about Solaris for x86, which
we've derided on the good word of sys admins in the field who don't much like
it as a pale shadow of Solaris on SPARC.
Loiacano's on an offensive to undo much of the criticism Solaris x86 has
endured, pointing to its growing base of supported hardware types (Pentium 4,
Xeon, dual-processor, grid, and blade servers); ongoing efforts to optimize
the platform (the Atlas programs, which he says have improved Solaris
performance upward of 60 percent in some benchmarks, but generally a
respectable 10 percent to 20 percent overall); and an increase in simple
personnel resources directed to the operating system, with 150 to 175
employees being pushed into the breach.
We admired Loiacano's candor about Solaris x86's deficiencies. (The
software catalog remains a concern despite recent additions, sitting at
around 1,000 applications vs. SPARC Solaris' 10,000 to 12,000 title list.)
However, he soon got to a point familiar to Sun watchers -- dressing the
limitations up as a qualified recognition of Linux's value proposition over
Solaris in parts of the commodity server market:
"I'm not going to compete in a white box environment ... I'm not going to
go head to head with Dell on a $2,200 server, and that's all I'm going to
sell you. My value add is that I sell a system. It's the hardware; it's the
operating system; it's the middleware stack; it's support services on a
worldwide basis."
Start with the positive. That's what Dale Carnegie always said, and
Loiacano managed that. So while explaining the success of Linux in the past
few years, even his negatives came off as more of a matter of perspective:
"[IT people] want to get on x86 because it's fast and cheap [...] When
people say there's a Linux phenomenon, from an IT perspective I would argue
that it's more of an x86 phenomenon. That said, the development community is
very much interested in the open source aspect, the ability to control their
destiny, controlling their code, etc. IT is not enamored by that, but some of
the developers are."
Loiacano went on to argue that much of Sun's apparent dithering on Linux
has been the product of a fickle market, as well. The company's ill-fated
in-house Linux distribution (Sun Linux), for instance, fell victim to
customers too sensitive to Red Hat's brand:
"Even though it was primarily Red Hat 7.2 [and] open source, people said
'yeah, but you know what? It doesn't say Red Hat on it, so I'm not gonna do
it.'"
Exit Sun Linux, and enter resulting OEM deals with Linux distributors Red
Hat and Suse, which represent the operating systems on which the Java
Enterprise (JES) and Desktop systems will run.
According to Loiacano, although Linux support for the JES will lag behind
Solaris x86 by a (convenient) 90 days, the operating system remains supported
at Sun -- something even Schwartz wasn't denying when he crossed his own
Linux PR Rubicon several weeks ago. The price of the software stack in which
Linux will reside, though, comes out lower for Solaris customers, reinforcing
a lesson Loiacano was clearly out to stress during our interview: "There is
no longer a free Linux," because no one among the sort of IT operations that
constitute Sun's bread and butter can work up much enthusiasm for downloading
a few CD ROM images and calling it an infrastructure.
Our takeaway? Primarily that, Mr. Schwartz's comments notwithstanding (not
to mention the lurid tales of Mr. McNealy's "decapitated penguin head"), Sun
is largely rational in how it is addressing the Linux question. It knows
where its market lies: Not in one-off Web server installs for corporate
intranets, or trusty but under-taxed SMB servers for workgroups, where Linux
can't help but dominate if a Unix is to be used at all. Sun has better things
in mind for Solaris x86 and its Intel-based offerings in general, and we
expect a bitter fight there.
The real change is in the rhetoric.
As we mentioned earlier, much of HP's recent "Linux Lifeline" was as much
an emotional appeal as it was a great deal. In the years we've covered Linux,
we've come face to face numerous times with a sort of emotional resonance you
don't get from "Windows enthusiasts" or the "Solaris community." Perhaps
that's the David and Goliath story coming to the top, with the traditional
"everyone loves an underdog" narrative finding itself recast in terms of
operating systems. Perhaps it's because Linux has created a lot of converts
due to its ubiquity and growing ease of use, representing the cherished first
love of many a dedicated Unix nerd. Whatever its cause, and no matter how
much some observers poo-poo the Mao-like fervor of some Linux enthusiasts at
full froth, that emotional resonance is there, and waiting to be either mined
for profit or stumbled through like a mine field.
HP figured it out, IBM has certainly figured it out, and some time in the
past few weeks, Sun decided to see if there's a middle road, neither picking
a fight nor walking away from one, where its own operating systems is
concerned.
As long as we're all clear.
In Other News
- Were you tossing and turning last night because you thought your
corporate accountant had forgotten to mail SCO its Linux license money?
That's a pity, because the company pushed the deadline for doubling the
prices on its licenses back to October 31.
Some
investment bankers are still fond of SCO, though, taking the time to
rate its stock a "buy," while cautioning that SCO shares will be worthless
if its case with IBM falls through.
-
Sun unveiled the UltraSPARC IV, setting its release for early 2004.
Sun expects the processor will double the throughput of its high-end to
midrange systems.
JupiterMedia's
Enterprise Linux Forum is set to take place in Washington, D.C. next
week, on Wednesday and Thursday (the 22nd and 23rd).
Security Roundup
Sometimes we run into problems picking noteworthy exploits and bugs to
cover because it's impossible to cover all the errata every vendor posts, and
because we aim for security issues that concern a healthy number of common
Unix variants. This week, one that would be hard to top in terms of ubiquity
reappeared two years after being identified: Four of the most common Unix
shells are affected, and we're still scrolling down the list of affected
vendors.
The shells in question are sh, tcsh, bash, and ksh. The vulnerability is a
behavior in those shells that allows for fairly arbitrary access of files in
/tmp by any user using the shells' << redirection operator. Since /tmp
is a sort of DMZ in the average Unix system, there's the potential for
malicious users to replace temporary but important files with contents of
their own choosing, making it possible to give themselves higher privileges
or to corrupt files.
Security Focus has a
complete list of affected vendors and an in-depth discussion of the bug.
As we noted last week, laziness and sloth can be more potent enemies than
the most determined cracker. Here's a case of an old exploit (it's been known
about for a few years already) still being patched and replaced by vendors.
Tips of the Trade
Last month, we provided a series of tips on regular expressions (regexps).
Since then, several of our tips have featured programs that use regexps. This
week, we'd like to revisit regexps to point out a truly handy application
that first explains in plain English how to say something in regular
expressions: ^txt2regex$.
It's written using bash, so there's no need to compile or build anything,
and it supports many, many regexp idioms, including, according to the Web
site, "awk, ed, emacs, grep, perl, php, procmail, python, sed, and vim."
The nice thing about this sort of tool is that it offers fast answers for
users first stumbling through the process of learning their way around
regexps, while also providing an education in one of the trickier aspects of
Unix life. Good stuff.
Linux Today - Computerworld Sun Exec Open-Source is Irrelevant
With all the desktop distros such as Lindows,
Lycoris and Xandros building their proprietary extensions into otherwise open
software, I have to take issue with that. How can I use the argument that I
won't use Windows because of it's proprietary nature, and then be expected to
fork out a bunch of dollars for Lindows which is trying to do the same thing?
The fact that it is a Linux distro will not fool me into buying it, because
of it's proprietary nature. I don't want to get so engrained in using a
particular distro, only to have it close it's doors in six months time and be
left without an easy replacement. Or worse yet, they try to leverage their
proprietary offering to try to get you to buy other products or upgrade.
Forget it, I'm sticking with the distros that take a totally open approach.
Once bitten...
Sun exec Open-source is irrelevant - Computerworld Open standards matter far
more, he argues
Opinion by Jonathan Schwartz, executive vice president, Sun Microsystems
SEPTEMBER 12, 2003
(COMPUTERWORLD) - Last
weekend, I went to go look up a patent filing at the U.S. Patent and
Trademark Office (PTO). It was a really engaging experience—it's a
fascinating site, with
filings dating back to 1790. Just for yuks, I decided to explore what it
takes to file a patent. I was in for a rude surprise: The site, and the PTO,
demand that all online patent applications be submitted using Microsoft Word.
Now, why is that a problem?
Well, it's a problem because my company
doesn't use Microsoft products. Nor can most people afford them. And if you
don't have a copy of Word, does that mean you have to pay Microsoft for the
privilege of submitting a patent application? To protect your own
intellectual property? And the government has mandated that? Something must
be wrong here.
One school of thought says, "Open-source will
stop this nonsense."
I don't buy it.
To me, open-source is irrelevant to the
discussion. And as the industry's single largest contributor to the
open-source movement, I don't say that lightly.
The issue for patent submitters isn't
the licensing convention used to build the word-processing application. At
least for my customers, purchasing decisions are never made on the basis of
the licensing convention used to build the product—customers care far more
about product quality, price/performance when compared to the competition,
and (especially of late) their security attributes. None of those issues have
anything to do with open-source any more than whether Sun employs left-handed
engineers to build the products, or marketing folks who work weekends (we do,
both).
What's at stake isn't whether the source code
to Microsoft Word is available. Even if it were, you'd still need a copy of
Microsoft Word to submit a patent. And you'd have to pay for the brand, or be
smart enough to build the source tree.
The issue isn't open-source, folks—it's
open standards.
If the file format used to submit a patent
were publicly available, it'd be up to me to determine how I elected to
submit my application—so long as I followed the standard. And if I stopped
liking the word processor I was using, I could move to another that supported
the standard. My choice. And if the standard were royalty-free, such as those
formats available through OASIS,
then any organization that wanted to interact with the PTO, or with the
patent submitters, could do so without fear of dependency upon proprietary
technology.
Now a variety of technology companies are
delivering proprietary technology into the world, and they're creating
dependencies while hiding under a shroud called "open-source." Don't be
fooled, they're shirking the very open standards that guarantee
interoperability. Why? Because they don't like interoperability—they like
dependency.
As the supplier of the only cross-platform
office productivity suite on the market, StarOffice, I don't say the
following lightly: Ignore the fact that StarOffice is open-source. It's an
irrelevance.
Focus on the open standards we follow.
They matter far, far more.
[May 28, 2004]Linux
Today - Linux Vs. Windows CeBIT Panelists Weigh The OS
by
Jacqueline Emigh
Do Linux security exploits really belong in
the same league as Windows security holes? Are OpenOffice and its derivatives
actually as good as Microsoft Office? These are just a couple of the
questions debated this week by a panel of experts at the CeBIT America show
in New York City.
Comparing Linux and Windows security amounts
to a "chicken and egg" issue, according to Kathy Ivens, an author and
consultant.
Given that Linux is a more secure environment,
it's tough to know whether this is because Linux is "inherently more secure,"
or because Windows is still the more prevalent environment, Ivens said,
during a panel moderated by Paul Gillin, VP of Editorial at TechTarget.
Also during the session, Nicholas Petreley, an
analyst and consultant at Evans Data, contended that regardless of the
numbers of exploits per platform, Windows exploits are often much more
severe. Citing materials produced by Microsoft itself, Petreley said that
many of the growing population of worms targeting Windows let outside hackers
"completely take over" a server.
In contrast, Linux exploits are generally more
limited in scope, and more likely to lend themselves to insider attacks,
Petreley suggested. One Linux exploit, for instance, permits information in
Firebird servers to be overwritten.
Generally speaking, though, Windows is still
easier to administer, according to several of the panelists. "That's where
Linux is behind, especially in directory services," Petreley observed.
Jon "Maddog" Hall, president and
executive director of Linux International, pointed to third-party tools,
available from vendors such as IBM and Computer Associates (CA), for managing
Linux along with MVS and Unix, for example.
"In enterprise environments, that's what
(you're) looking for," said Hall. Yet, he admitted, companies need to pay for
such tools.
"(Administrative) controls are a lot
better (in Windows)," Ivens asserted, citing printer set-up as one example.
Meanwhile, other panelists pointed to freely
available Linux tools such as Samba.
What about Linux on the desktop? OpenOffice
and its derivatives lack some of the features of Microsoft Office, according
to Mark Minasi, a writer and consultant
Petreley, though, argued that EI (Evermore
Integrated) Office, an office suite from Evermore Software, contains a
similar feature set to Microsoft Office. Unlike Microsoft Office, however, EI
Office doesn't allow anti-aliasing of fonts, he acknowledged, attributing
this distinction to a decision by authors of the Java-based program to reduce
overhead. EI Office runs on both Linux and Windows.
OpenOffice types of suites also tend to come
with fewer fonts, indicated Hall. One rather obvious reason is that some font
creators charge for the fonts, according to Hall.
On an overall basis, Linux applications still
lack the "fit and finish" of Windows apps, Minasi charged. To gain more
traction on the desktop, Linux needs a better GUI, he insisted.
Ivens, however, argued that GUIs aren't
necessarily the way to go for all applications. In fact, some database and
accounting apps have actually taken performance hits from the advent of the
Windows GUI.
"There's no reason to have a GUI to punch in
numbers," Ivens said. She harkened back to the days when the MAS 90
accounting system was at its zenith. Back then, MAS 90 was sold in Unix and
DOS flavors. "My clients loved it," according to Ivens.
Ivens would also like to see fewer features in
today's office suites. Microsoft Office, she quipped, seems to be evolving
under an illusion in Redmond that "everyone in the world is collaborating on
a single document."
Yet most users take advantage of only a small
fraction of Office features, and migration to Microsoft Office 2003 has been
particularly slow, Ivens observed.
In terms of third-party desktop applications,
Linux is now starting to catch up with Windows, panelists generally
concurred. Quicken, for instance, is now available for Linux, said Hall.
Desktop gaming, however, is one area where
Linux still lags, according to Petreley. Yet with increasing improvements to
game consoles such as Game Cube, more consumers are migrating from
Windows-based PC games to consoles.
On the other hand, Windows doesn't necessarily
hold much of an edge when it comes to ease of installation, according to the
CeBIT panelists. Many users don't know how tricky Windows can be to install,
since Windows still comes pre-installed on most PCs, members of the CeBIT
audience were told.
Hall said that he'll be more than happy if
Linux ultimately captures 30 percent of the desktop space.
"Competition is good," he declared. Hall
reasoned that, as a result, no operating system -- not even Linux -- should
totally dominate any market.
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sun secure global desktop (tarantella)
(Score:1)by Iaughter (723964) on Saturday April 15, @11:12PM (#15136509)
(http://www.math.purdue.edu/)
About a year ago Sun bought [infoworld.com] Tarantella [tarantella.com] which provides remote desktop software. I've set up a testing install of Tarantella with MS Windows Server 2003, Solaris 10 and Red Hat. You need at least one server for each offered OS and Global Desktop handles the connecting and much of the glue (of course, MS makes it more difficult than necessary, but
...).
This product of Sun's is definitely an enterprise-level competitor (and really hits the sweet spot when used with their thin-client products).
ProPalms TSE
(http://www.slimside.com)
It functions using a client that extends Microsoft's RDP protocol, allowing for seamless publishing of apps from multiple load balanced app servers. The backend servers compromise various roles and support load balancing and a gateway server in addition to the app server functionality.